It’s time to wind Canada Post down
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Summary
Canada Post strikes again, and it s another day in the postal strike saga. The strike has dragged on for nearly a month now, and there s no sign of an end in sight. Canada Post is on track to go broke, and unless something dramatic changes are made, it s going to go under.
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good day welcome to the cory morgan show coming live from our festive location in downtown
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carrie as christmas approaches good to see you guys joining in already uh let's make use of that
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comment scroll i see there's the second best beekeeper in alberta in there jordan's checking
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in lots of you in there we got lots to cover lots of questions i'm gonna have jay hill coming in he
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was the former government whip for quite a while we want to talk all things federal all things
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parliamentary jay's the man to ask so send those questions that way and uh we'll see if we can get
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some answers i know it's hard to get clear answers out of anything in parliament but jay's a straight
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speaker so that'll be something to look forward to and uh yeah converse with each other send questions
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by way just try to be somewhat civil with each other uh we can fight on twitter that's what it's all
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about it's always lots of good fight going on there all right well i'm gonna get on with some
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news things have got me going and yeah we're let's talk canada post i've been having a lot of fun with
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them online everybody's having a good time good to see you there mary so let's talk about where
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things are sitting with the postal strike i mean what if you went on strike and nobody cared you
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know it's kind of like an ex who walks out the door and then you know okay you shrug and a month
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later she phones you because she's all pissed that you didn't call hey you walked out it's your problem
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found out that you didn't really want her that much in the first place well postal workers are
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learning that hard lesson right now that their service yeah it isn't as essential to people as
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they thought it was nearly a month on the picket lines and all they've managed to accomplish is to
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lose public support and speed up canada's transition to a paperless society they can't
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hold canadians hostage during the christmas season any longer like they used to their strikes don't
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cripple the nation all they do is annoy them demand for letter mail it's not going to come back and
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the only people who appear not to know this are the postal workers in the union canada post was given
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a monopoly on letter delivery but even with that they can't fund themselves through it letter mail
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has dropped by over a half in volume since 2016 and it's still dropping canada post has lost three
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billion dollars since 2018 and the losses are mounting faster they might be on track to lose
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one billion in 2024 alone this hemorrhaging can't continue and unless something dramatic changes
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canada post is going to go broke now as a crown corporation it's supposed to be self-funding they
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love constantly saying hey we're not taking tax dollars well yeah actually if they go broke we get to pay for
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it so uh taxpayers are liable for the debts incurred and canada's already in a rather dire economic
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situation with massive government debt low productivity and a rising cost of living adding
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billions more to the debt load if canada post goes under won't be doing us any favors not only should
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canada post refuse to give in to the union demands for raises it's got to commit to scaling its size
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and scope dramatically down to face contemporary reality the route to solvency for canada post might
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be harsh for its employees but it's actually pretty simple with 68 000 employees labor is by far the
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biggest expense with canada post and that's where the cuts have got to come we've got to stop all
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direct to doorstep letter delivery it's ridiculously expensive and labor intensive over two-thirds of
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canadians have already had their mail coming to some form of community mailbox or another already
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the only reason the transition didn't fully go to community boxes was because justin trudeau cut a
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deal with the postal union back in 2016 well that deal's got to end and the community boxes have got to go
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everywhere one worker can cover the ground of dozens of carriers by just traveling from box to box to
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deliver mail rather than walking house to house and delivery no longer needs to be daily if a person
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has a pressing immediate need to have a document delivered to their door they can pay express post
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or a private courier to deal with it postal workers deliver a little more than flyers daily
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these days anyways there isn't enough demand to justify going out five days a week once a week will
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suffice twice tops and a post should also just get out of the parcel delivery business i mean they had a
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near monopoly on it a few years ago and they blew it the private market has filled the parcel void
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with superior service and now is a majority market share canada post might as well just divest from
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it at most all canada post should be doing is providing some subsidized service to remote regions
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but that's about it by ending home delivery ending parcel services and cutting to one day a week
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canada post should be able to shed tens of thousands of positions i mean they'll still have a
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legislative monopoly on letter service and even if it manages to lose money in that size at least the
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losses will be smaller than the current ones yes lots of jobs are going to be lost that's unfortunate
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but that's life you know there's not many milkmen delivering any longer either is canada post supposed
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to be providing mail service anyways or is it a social welfare program it's not it's the only points
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whether you know to provide jobs well then maybe we should just start a crown corporation to hire
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thousands people to dig holes and fill them back in again it'll serve the same purpose as using
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canada post as an employment program but it won't contribute to as much traffic on the streets
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some postal workers would find employment in the private courier sector as that industry expands
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others are just going to have to retire or find new trades and hey they get a hell of a pension guys
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the strike has taught canadians that losing canada post as we know it is an inconvenience at worst
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we don't need a huge national postal service and with the strike driving of millions of people into
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converting to electronic finances and communications canada post must shrink let's cut it with a plan to
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trans worker transition workers as painlessly as possible but let's get on with it there's no longer work
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for film processors record store employees or barrel stave makers either the world changes and
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the workforce must adapt to deal with the postal workers had a good gig but the runs over guys
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either way that's where i wanted to go with things because yeah i guess the postal workers actually came
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back and uh increased their offer or asked for money they're saying otherwise but it was a just that
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they spread it out over a different period of years they really think they got some leverage here
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and start a union around here we see how long uh derek would put up with that but uh let's see let's
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check with uh shop steward and uh news editor dave naylor uh and see what else is going on in the
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news of the core i think of the christmas cards how is my mom going to get her christmas card
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you have to curry her to her well i can't afford that an e-card i i know it's not the same yeah and
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i already see derek coming out of his office to put an end to the union uh the baseball bat yeah with
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a baseball bat there's civil war sword that he's got in there anyways core let's talk uh let's talk crime
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that's leading off the the news this morning stats can report out today showing since uh
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uh our friend trudeau took office was a nine years ago uh murder rate has jumped 27 percent
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and of course the uh conservatives have jumped on this and uh and are making hay of it uh there was a
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uh murder just recently in in toronto a young woman got murdered by her her boyfriend who was out
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on bail you know convicted violent offender and he's out on bail and and kills her so it's uh it's
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just uh the streets aren't very safe out there now cory uh in coquitlam a related type story they've
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arrested a pervert for nine sexual assaults nine and he was in custody probably for about 45 minutes
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before being released but he's on condition so i'm sure everybody's uh safe there our newest
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staff member james schnell the guy i didn't realize till i met him yesterday six foot seven
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oh jeez he's a monster that's the guy you need in the front lines of the union yeah no kidding
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uh he's taking a fun look at uh cyber trucks and how they're having a bit of trouble adjusting to this
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uh canadian winter they don't start and they can't get out of snow snow drifts and and stuff like
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that and when you're when you're paying more than 100 grand for a truck you kind of want them
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uh to do those things yeah i think he called it only at the article the ugliest vehicle ever made
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i have to agree with yeah yeah uh but they certainly catch your eye though all right they may be ugly
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but you have to look at them uh trudeau speaking of trudeau he was at a event last night proclaiming
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he's still a proud feminist and sort of uh crapping all over the americans for not electing
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kamala harris uh said it was a second time they've had a chance to uh elect a female president
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and didn't do so and it's a backward step so i'm sure that's going to go down well and with his
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negotiations with uh uh with president uh elect uh trump and you remember the uh speaking of good
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justice you remember the video i think it was back in january of the the guy in court and he went flying
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after the judge when the tactic dove over the uh you know the judge's death serum was beating her
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26 years he got uh for that so uh i think he's probably regretting his impulse decision probably
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you know and i agree with that i mean you can't have people threatening judges that's not going to
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help the system i just uh it's funny the justices learn how to find long sentences when it's them who
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are being assaulted but not so much when it's the commoner on the street if they could just kind
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of apply that elsewhere it would be kind of nice wouldn't it be refreshing it would be all right
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well that's on the go as always yeah i gotta go call a courier now to get a christmas card out to
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my mom well it's a sad sad thing we got to find our alternatives and uh well i'm not arguing with
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you about the whole canada post yeah that's that's the truth of it those are the people that kind of
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getting harmed the most you know the seniors don't want to change tradition there's no an e-card sucks
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let's face it somebody sent an email with a little popping elf and confetti it's not the same as sending
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a card i mean that's the inconvenience of talking about it it really is hampering people with a
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strike it's just not crippling us it's pissing us off all right sorry mom you're getting an e-card
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oh well there we go all right well i'll let you get on with composing your uh annual e-card for your
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mother and uh i'll get on with the show talk to you soon all right thanks dave that is our news
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editor dave naylor and and yes lots on the go busy office new people on and uh it sounds like a giant
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with mr snell coming in there so uh i'll tread carefully if i'm going to critique his columns
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that why not uh let's see uh gifford's honey farm saying uh you know i live in a rural area only get
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mail three days a week since they opened decades ago and it's a funny thing with my area i i i live
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rural as well and we have one of those communal post boxes it's it's down the road it's not that far
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is not that hard and reality uh well you know jane is is very good for keeping up on electronic things
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and everything so most of our stuff's been converted we check it once a week maybe and usually it's just
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full of junk mail and the odd thing we just don't need it that much and then a funny thing though in
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our area while supposedly mail comes five days a week we've never once in the 10 years out there
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gotten a letter on a friday nothing it's amazing just astounding coincidence i guess but for some
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reason nothing ever hits the mailbox on friday odd isn't it would seem almost as if there's some
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room to improve things but uh yeah that's a wild nature farm also a commenter saying you know
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canada posted is trying to go more automated and get rid of lots of employees well that is some of
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the stuff that's happening some of the stuff they're striking against but guys we can't fight
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progress i mean the same thing you know the milkman were probably quite put out when the combustion
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engine came along and you weren't going up and down the roads with a horse and wagon any longer but
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things change how long should we hold back how much more should we spend as i said if we really
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if that's the point let's get a big field give them all a bunch of shovels dig the hole fill the
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hole dig the hole fill the hole and we won't have to deal with the traffic jams of postal workers
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taking taxis to their routes every morning it's not supposed to be a job program it's supposed to be
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a postal service all right we will see i don't think they're doing very well in this strike so far
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people are losing more and more interest in them as every day goes by we'll see how this settles in the end
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all right i've been looking forward to this it's been a long time since mr hill's been here
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to talk to us in person we're overdue and uh boy we've got a heck of a year to review so
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former government whip a long time member of parliament came out of so many years they're
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still mostly sane and uh thanks cory it's great to be back on the program yeah no it's good to see
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you and uh boy what a what a time we're in well what a fiasco yes yeah i've never you know as you
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said uh i was there for 17 years from 93 to 2010 finished up my service as the government house
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leader uh cabinet position full full cabinet position so i had the uh privilege and opportunity
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to sit at the big table and of course 17 years both in opposition and government to experience
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the house of commons on a day-to-day basis and i have to admit cory i have never seen such a mess
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as we have currently in ottawa and it's it's an absolute joke uh it's no wonder the the uh re-elected
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uh incoming president of the united states uh you know is teasing our prime minister uh about being
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uh the governor of the 51st state uh because you know we have zero respect at the international level
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and not a lot more at the domestic level and that's reflected in the polls these days well and
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outside of the polls you know so for a lot of people watching politics and that's it i mean in
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your job as government house leader you were immersed in though the the procedures and and things such
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as that i mean we've been in the midst of a filibuster for quite some time and outside of you
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know political weenies like us like just kind of what does that mean and what's the purpose of it
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like things are being hindered and hindered and bunged up in there i mean things aren't getting done
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yeah uh which might be a good thing well perhaps yeah a lot of the things they do aren't all that
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great anyways well certainly not supported in western canada and alberta in particular
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you know so perhaps that as i say it's a very good thing now for those people that aren't familiar
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a filibuster is basically where one party uses the tools that they have in parliament to carry a debate
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and if necessary all by themselves they just put speakers after speaker up and speak to emotion
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and uh in the question of privilege which we're debating now in the house of commons and have
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been i'll add uh since september 26th so two and a half months the house of commons has been completely
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stalled of any business other than debating the conservative question of privilege and uh you know i was
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involved in filibusters i i you know participated in a few myself um the government house leader uh if
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uh he has the ability or she has the ability to take the time slot of the leader of the opposition
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uh as i had on one occasion uh you can speak for as long as you can keep uh keep talking and um but
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this is unique because a question of privilege takes precedent virtually over everything else and that's why
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uh the opposition as long as they stay united on this issue i might add because singh doesn't stay
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united with the opposition on much uh then they can debate it till the cows come home until basically
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parliament uh is uh is adjourned uh roughly a year from now for an election uh and the conservators of at
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least have indicated they intend to continue this filibuster until then uh if if necessary
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or until the government and specifically the prime minister capitulate and hand over these
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unredacted documents that the house has ordered i've never seen this where a government has just
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refused for two and a half months to hand over documents to the opposition and by extension to
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the public yeah and that's what i wanted to get to i mean they aren't just having a temper tantrum or
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holding up the house of commons for the sake of holding it up there is a at least an ask a demand
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because we do have something bizarre going on we've they've been ordered to say these documents
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on these issues uh i think it's the green energy contracts yeah or or as the opposition refers to
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it the green uh slush fund yes yeah i think i have the right name down here somewhere the sustainable
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development technology canada fund there we go so but the government obviously obviously something
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stinks to high heaven that's why they don't want to release it absolutely but i think that there would be
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some criminal charges from what i've read about this uh it certainly lends itself because that's part of
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the demand from the house and when i say the house you remember that ironically we are in a minority
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government situation if the opposition bands together they can demand anything yeah and as long
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as they have the votes because the liberals don't have enough votes to outvote them like they would in a
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majority situation so what what we have here is that not only they are are they demanding these
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unredacted that means you know not having entire sheets uh blacked out but unredacted uh documents
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but that they'd be turned over to the rcmp to see if there's a possibility that criminal charges should
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be late well it says something though that our system is somewhat broken then in holding a government
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to account when the only recourse when when it's been ordered i mean we've done everything else possible
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hey you're supposed to do this and then they just say no we won't do it a filibuster is the only tool
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they've got exactly not good no no it's you know a waste of resources as they say uh roughly two and a half months
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uh they're back on this today after taking a break for a couple of days to do uh bills that allowed
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for the appropriation of funds because that's why i said earlier there's a conflict there about which
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takes precedence and they they agreed that uh the supply bills that supplies the government with the
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funds to carry through to the end of the the fiscal year which is march 31st uh are at least equal in
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precedent so the speaker ruled that that they had to take a break they had to get the remaining supply
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days which are opposition days that's why we had yet another uh vote on non-confidence by the
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conservatives the other day ironically or not uh it was defeated again because sing uh you know and i
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gotta say that jagmeet singh to me just sitting back and watching the shenanigans uh on uh during the house
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the commons he has got to be the greatest hypocrite in the in the history of canada that last you
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probably have referred to this i haven't watched your program but uh for the last while uh but um that
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last um motion for the opposition motion for non-confidence in the government was actually
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crafted from the very words of jagmeet singh yeah yeah and he still voted against his own words
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yeah it was a beautiful political maneuver i mean it was forcing him because he's always talked big but
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backed off exactly here's your chance all your very own words put it into action and of course he backed
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off yeah but again it's just i think a lot of canadians are just starting to tune it out though and
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it's not a good outcome you know i mean they're getting cynical i mean becoming upset becoming
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frustrated it's natural as normal but cynical is not healthy for a democracy and they watch these
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games going on and you know left right center doesn't matter you start to think who is leading
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us yeah well no one unfortunately certainly when it comes to prime minister trudeau um absolutely uh
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cory uh i'm just appalled at what's happening uh we have disagreements all the time in the house
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of commas that's partly the purpose right is to have the different adversarial you're across from
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each other but you hope that at the end i mean if it's the will of the house that the government
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will accede to that that's traditionally what happens but you know this is not the first time
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this has happened it happened under um under um the early days of this government back in 2015 2016.
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it happened under the uh snc lavallon you know where the government ended up losing uh their
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attorney general uh joe jody recent uh yeah i mean who was forced to quit because her ethics didn't
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allow her to do what the prime minister wanted her to do and protect that corporation and and then we had
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uh the we fiasco you know where they were going to give i think it was over a billion dollars to that
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corporation and something stunk there to high heaven and we ended up that the prime minister
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called an election over that you know and then more recently we had the fiasco in winnipeg with the uh
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the health uh lab you know and those two chinese um scientists and we never did get the information
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again the house was calling for unredacted documents showing what transpired there and we never got it so
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this is a prime minister and a government that is constantly consumed by covering up their own
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scandals and well and even the stuff that's going to come out i mean they're kicking every can down
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the road the one thing they've been able to get through all this time is money bills and spending
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spending spending and it shows so the the quarterly fiscal update which is terribly late already they've
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waited until the very bitter end yeah they're going to drop it on monday at the end of the session
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and hope everybody forgets at christmas but it's got to be bad yeah well the media is already on to
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the fact that it looks like rather than a 40 billion dollar deficit it looks like 50 50 greater perhaps as
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much as 60 billion dollars this fiscal year and uh and and you gotta throw into the mix on that too that
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uh finance minister freeland has never hit a target yet in her whole time as finance minister and when
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she's asked even a remotely tough question about the finances of the nation she can't answer it
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she's completely inept and incompetent uh so you throw that in the mix as well as a prime minister
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that's a laughing stock around the world and uh and indeed i believe across canada now saw a recent
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survey that suggested 80 percent of canadians want an election we can't get it though enemy so now
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system won't allow it so we're hamstrung right now we're hung up we're in a mess they're still
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pulling off stunts like orders and council to ban guns and do other stunts right there's ways they can
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do things without actually running it through the house but we're coming up on a unprecedented
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year a crisis i mean we have president-elect trump coming in who whatever people think like or dislike
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the guy he's also one of the most impulsive uh uh you know takes things personally uh unpredictable
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you know presidents in in known history and the battle is coming with canada a trade war i mean we
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need this is when we need our house to have their crap together more than ever going into this year
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and it's terrifying looking who we've got theoretically representing us going into that
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uh exactly and as i referred to already in in the program um you know you see it i mean yes uh we
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can all we all have opinions i think every canadian has an opinion about donald trump uh but setting that
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aside he is the incoming president he has learned things from his first tenure and he's going to be
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taking action because of that um and you know when you have a president threatening whether it's comes
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to fruition or not threatening a 25 tariff across the board on every product that we ship to our
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greatest trading partner it's absolutely frightening especially for small businesses that access the
00:23:43.000
american market oh yeah and uh you know that you we could see just uh overabundance unfortunately of
00:23:51.320
bankruptcies not that we're not experiencing enough as it is no it would be devastated i mean we're
00:23:56.920
speaking of somebody like you know a president-elect trump i mean he is a man a lot of talk about he
00:24:02.200
responds at least to frank or somebody he can respect and that's the key word those are the things
00:24:08.440
we're seeing right now he has no respect for trudeau he holds him in contempt and that's not going to
00:24:13.560
change this is going to go poorly plus trudeau's not i you know there's my bias coming he's not a
00:24:18.840
strong man he's not going to be able to stand this down no he's a fancy socks and tie and you know
00:24:25.560
uh hairstyles and whatever but i mean when it comes to competence uh sadly lacking and it just amazes
00:24:33.880
me that there are still people i was reading an article uh column in the toronto star this morning
00:24:40.120
my goodness and not surprisingly uh heather malik was saying he's he's one of the great uh the great
00:24:48.280
five that she produced for a short list of important canadians for this year i mean how they there's
00:24:55.080
people like her that will still support justin trudeau after everything he's done to destroy our nation
00:25:01.960
yeah i think she might have sustained a head injury at some point in her life so malik's a
00:25:06.440
special sort of case but it does say a lot there but there's always that core i mean everything
00:25:09.640
hits a bottom yeah the liberals are sitting at about 20 percent there's those there's those people
00:25:13.800
say i will vote liberal till i die that's that 20 it wouldn't matter who or what or however it was
00:25:18.920
done that's going to sit there but i can't see how it's going to climb another thing i'm worried
00:25:23.320
about like i've written a column on it that'll come out a little bit it's a bit speculative but we
00:25:26.760
know how the political game plays and the regional play premier smith's been fantastic in developing
00:25:31.320
relationships with governors she's going to the inauguration alberta has an office in washington
00:25:35.800
we've been doing the job canada should have been doing yep and that might shield oil and gas if
00:25:41.800
tariffs start coming because you know trump's no fool he knows if you throw that tariff on alberta oil
00:25:45.560
and gas the price of the pump of the states is going to rise up and people are going to be upset with
00:25:48.680
him on the states too so if he can find it out maybe he'll carve out oil and gas yeah exactly i would
00:25:54.040
think there would be an exemption coming if it gets that far but then the temptation on trudeau's part
00:25:59.160
would be well i'm not going to let that happen he might do like his father did and throw an
00:26:03.080
outgoing tariff on canadian oil and gas leaving here yeah then we're going to see a unity issue i
00:26:09.000
mean hey i'll sell more books than i ever have in here but but still for the sake of the country in
00:26:13.320
alberta that's not going to be a good developer no and as you said earlier corey especially not at
00:26:18.280
this particular time at this particular time when it comes to negotiating with the americans in
00:26:23.080
particular but the chinese and any other entity around the world we need to be unified uh on the
00:26:29.080
international front we're not going to be unified obviously in the house of commons and on domestic
00:26:33.480
issues like you know the carbon tax for example because pierre has clearly staked his future on
00:26:38.840
that issue and and others you know but on an international front and i have personal experience in
00:26:44.760
this i mean uh when i was in opposition uh i often traveled uh to foreign conferences with
00:26:51.000
the minister that i was critic of you still see that today and you know trying to present a
00:26:57.080
somewhat unified position by all political parts and we're not the only democracy that does that i mean
00:27:02.840
the uk australia they all do that uh when they're negotiating or whether when they're interacting with
00:27:09.480
other foreign countries uh so this as you said is a really crucial time there are so many huge issues
00:27:17.640
uh not the least of war in the middle east war in the ukraine uh where as much as possible we
00:27:23.560
need our parliamentarians to set aside partisan differences and really operate and pierre is called
00:27:30.280
for this by the way pierre poliev he is called on the prime minister as recently as last week to form
00:27:36.680
a unified front on these issues he was specifically speaking to opposition to the uh the the prospect of
00:27:43.880
tariffs uh but it could be on a multiple of issues at the international level well then another
00:27:49.320
challenge we have is our foreign affairs minister uh you know trudeau has appointed his intellectual
00:27:54.760
peers to high cabinet positions and it's showing and melanie especially i would argue the the big two
00:28:01.000
our finance minister and our foreign affairs yes and and and again it gets distressing i mean melanie
00:28:07.240
jolly is not commanding respect around the world she's embarrassing herself and us through extension
00:28:12.120
with her clear lack of knowledge whenever she's a in a press conference or at a conference of any sort
00:28:18.040
i just i guess i'll leave you off with a big question though i mean you know as we come into
00:28:21.960
i mean election doesn't look like it's likely until a year from now that you know maybe in spring at best
00:28:28.200
what can we hope for in january let's leave off with a bright note what could parliament maybe do i mean
00:28:33.160
i know it's not looking good but well you know because the conservatives have quite rightly and
00:28:39.000
i don't say that naughty and not as a conservative myself or a conservative yourself uh but because
00:28:46.440
they have really staked their ground on this question of privilege on these documents right
00:28:52.360
and i think justifiably so anybody that looks at that issue is going to say well what is going on here
00:28:58.120
uh if they're resisting the prime minister trudeau and his ministers including ministers that
00:29:05.080
allegedly funneled money according to the auditor general uh funneled money to their own companies
00:29:11.880
through this slush fund if they're resisting to that extent there must be something as you said
00:29:18.040
earlier something really dirty there so the only way i can see this resolved in january february whatever
00:29:24.040
going forward is that there has to be some negotiation on that issue between the parties yeah now whether it
00:29:33.080
will happen that for example if they would provide certain information and still withhold some
00:29:38.520
redacted in the past they've said you know it's the issue of national security that's why the
00:29:44.280
documents are redacted i can't see that applying to a green slush fund but however it is uh i mean it's
00:29:52.040
sort of like the uh postal strike i mean there has at some point you would think there has to be some
00:29:56.760
negotiation and that where they can arrive at a an agreement otherwise as i see it the house is
00:30:03.800
going to be held up like this as i said earlier right through until the election i mean jagmeet singh
00:30:09.400
we used to think okay well after he gets his mp pension uh near the end of february perhaps then on
00:30:16.520
the budget in march or april perhaps the government will fall we'll have a spring election instead of
00:30:21.560
happen to wait until october but uh as of what he said the other day uh when the conservatives uh
00:30:27.960
produced that uh non-confidence motion based on his own words and he did a complete ate himself alive
00:30:34.600
basically yeah uh and he did a complete flip-flop he said no no i intend to honor the agreement that i
00:30:41.560
made such you know uh a um a show of tearing up yeah in october i intend to honor that and it goes until
00:30:50.360
the house rises in june so that kind of takes if that's true and we never know with him what is
00:30:56.360
true but if that's true uh then we're stuck until summer at least boy and it's just not a well it's
00:31:03.240
never a good year to have a hung parliament like that but this is a really bad one we're going to
00:31:07.080
yeah i'm really quite worried to be honest and i don't know you know how you solve it uh i mean
00:31:13.080
many people have said well what is the problem i mean in a democracy especially when you have poll after
00:31:19.320
poll uh never mind whether they're going to vote conservative liberal ndp bloc whatever but poll after
00:31:26.120
poll showing the majority of canadians want to exercise their right as citizens and vote yeah and
00:31:34.680
and the government ignores it well it's an ugly circumstance either way we'll leave on a bright
00:31:41.320
note the weather's been good christmas is coming up new year's coming up i hope you and leah have a
00:31:46.600
fantastic one i really appreciate you coming in to talk to us about this and i hope we can get you
00:31:51.640
back in the new year maybe we'll see if we've had some progress did i say well that would be nice it'd
00:31:55.960
be nice to uh certainly have a more cheery conversation but uh if i could just before i go
00:32:03.160
i attended an event uh with leah my wife a couple nights ago and it was the uh allies for a strong
00:32:11.560
canada it's a new new organization i don't know how many of your viewers are as concerned as i've
00:32:16.840
been over the last year since the the tragedy of uh october 7th uh with what happened in israel
00:32:24.600
with the rise of anti-semitism across our country never mind around the world i mean it's not unique
00:32:29.880
to canada but it's appalling that it is here and that our government is doing nothing and so there's
00:32:36.040
this new organization and i would encourage everybody watching to go to allies for a strong
00:32:41.880
canada it's easy to find google it uh it costs nothing to join uh to show your support for our
00:32:49.240
fellow jewish citizens and communities across canada during this time when they're frightened to send
00:32:55.080
their kids to school they're they're frightened for their own safety uh some of them unfortunately
00:33:01.000
tragically are thinking about moving it's become so unsafe in canada
00:33:06.040
and um i hope you go there and join it it costs nothing but it would mean so much to our fellow
00:33:11.880
citizens great well thanks for that plug it's good to get together i mean yeah if a parliament
00:33:16.680
can't do it citizens groups have to at least get the messaging out there and we're gonna start
00:33:20.600
taking care of things ourselves exactly all right well thanks again jay good thank you i'm sure
00:33:24.840
we'll see you again soon absolutely all right so yes it's always good when jay comes in to break
00:33:29.240
that down and uh yeah i know it was so negative because there's just so much to cover but at least
00:33:33.000
you know if we see the system we see things like that we've got to discuss them
00:33:36.040
eventually we'll find the solutions we'll figure it out it's just a matter of how bad we gotta let
00:33:40.040
things get before we get there that's the hard part and that that's the the difficult one to come
00:33:46.040
and with this year coming it is uh it's distressing yeah the government's it's hung up there's people
00:33:52.920
talking whether or not it would be prorogued uh i'm really worried like i said history just seems to
00:34:00.520
have a heck of a habit of repeating itself you know so here we are again another trudeau you know
00:34:06.760
uh we don't you know it's uh south of the border things are quite different with trump there's never
00:34:10.920
been another quite like him but i do see a potential scenario where trudeau would try to use western
00:34:18.600
canadian oil and gas and agricultural products as a hammer to fight back in a trade war like trudeau has
00:34:23.720
said he would retaliate in a trade war well how can you because that's the problem with the trade war
00:34:28.600
though it does hurt both ways i would like to think that president trump really doesn't want
00:34:34.680
to impose those tariffs i mean it hurts consumers on both sides when you do that sort of thing it
00:34:39.320
puts the cost of goods up uh trump has always been a protectionist democrats always have been in the
00:34:44.520
states too and uh to be blunt it's stupid policy protectionism is always stupid policy if you want
00:34:51.160
to talk to any economists worth their salt when they talk about things protectionism sells well at
00:34:56.760
election time but when it comes to actual benefits for your citizens and companies and economy it
00:35:01.160
tends not to actually pay off but the bottom line is it's there it's something we've got to deal with
00:35:05.960
and it's something again you know as jay was saying talk about politicians staking ground it's certainly
00:35:10.360
where trump has staked a lot of ground on that protectionism so there's going to be some things
00:35:14.040
coming up anyways even if they aren't the 25 percent tariffs he's talking about but one of the ones
00:35:19.400
as i said that would hurt the most if if a 25 tariff was slapped on alberto oil and gas here
00:35:23.560
for exports for the amount of oil and gas canada exports even with the trans mountain now flowing
00:35:30.200
which is about bloody time you know trudeau didn't kill it he just messed it up 97 of our exports go to
00:35:36.520
the states they still go to the states they go to american refineries and uh they're dependent on it
00:35:41.960
whether it's over in chicago or down in texas and and throughout and west coast refineries as well
00:35:46.600
in seattle area so the cost would be felt immediately if you threw that tariff on canadian
00:35:52.920
oil and gas i just don't think trump is eager to do that but like you know the political game so
00:35:58.840
if albertans sitting well say let's say these tariffs come in but they come in on quebec and
00:36:02.760
ontario's auto sector you know and then they crunch on there and on bc's forestry maybe because
00:36:07.560
you know they've got uh forest products and softwood lumber they can they can fill the void with but if
00:36:11.960
daniel smith's been effective and they exempt oil and gas man that's going to put a a big target
00:36:20.920
right on the west for trudeau because he's desperate and he wants i i honestly think he's
00:36:25.240
kind of wants a trade war at this point he what else is going to possibly turn the polls around he has to
00:36:30.040
try and build a villain and build himself as a hero and it's not going to work but he's willing to try
00:36:37.000
and he's willing to sacrifice our economy particularly the western canadian economy to do it
00:36:42.600
and the envy the division in the country i mean though if central canada was hurting if if their
00:36:46.760
battery plants weren't exporting anymore and and things such as that because of tariffs but alberta's
00:36:51.720
actually booming because our oil and gas is still flowing freely across into the states and our
00:36:56.120
agricultural products uh yeah the the envy in this country is going to be bad because look at how
00:37:02.040
trudeau is is is stoking the fires you know you know you've got a problem with president trump so
00:37:08.760
what does trudeau say the other day this is a literal quote from trudeau just a few weeks ago
00:37:12.040
the united states voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president everywhere woman
00:37:16.840
rights and woman's process progress is under attack overtly and subtly basically trudeau just
00:37:23.560
called americans misogynistic bigots who refuse to elect women good move justin smart really working
00:37:30.760
well you know how many women have led the federal liberal party of canada historically zero not a
00:37:38.120
one in fact justin trudeau's got quite a strong reputation for kicking strong women out of his
00:37:42.760
cabinet out of his caucus pressuring them there was that one uh black member of parliament who
00:37:48.120
said she was scared almost for her life when justin had a temper tantrum on her behind closed doors
00:37:52.200
the hypocrisy of that man is something else but again he's taking his side in an election that's
00:37:57.160
already passed he's throwing an endorsement to the losing candidate while infuriating the winning
00:38:03.640
candidate to what end to what purpose you twit you know so again trump takes things personally i i wish
00:38:13.240
i've talked about it uh you know i get in battles with my my commenters at times i'm not a big fan of
00:38:17.640
trump i would rather the republicans brought in a a deeper thinking wars type of a leader but he's who's
00:38:25.400
there he's the who the americans chose and that's who they have and we have to work with him and one
00:38:31.000
of the things to deal with him is he takes it bloody personally so justin doing that crap and now trump
00:38:35.800
yes lobbying out more comments and calling trudeau the the governor it's not helping us it's not
00:38:41.880
helping at all yeah looking in alberta smart leadership things that are happening this has been
00:38:45.720
fun to watch especially as a you know regionalist like myself uh premier smith announced that a potential
00:38:51.560
new data center for alberta or artificial intelligence that's going to be some
00:38:55.400
set up in greenview alberta rural area kind of getting between grand cash and grand prairie for
00:38:59.960
people in alberta it's kind of in the foothills mountains area it's going to be 70 billion dollars
00:39:07.640
70 billion dollars if it goes through but it sounds like oh you know uh o'leary is moving with it the
00:39:13.720
the alberta government's certainly on board and the reason that they're picking that spot so there's a
00:39:17.880
few reasons one of which is massive amounts of natural gas reserves there i was pointing out there's
00:39:22.280
a lot of stranded reserves it's too hard to get pipelines in but the gas is there so they can
00:39:25.880
generate because these are power intensive projects alberta's diversifying alberta's moving ahead
00:39:30.760
alberta's doing high-tech things it's moving forward despite canada not because of it and uh
00:39:36.840
but that helps also bring about envy when the rest of the country is hurting unfortunately rather than
00:39:40.840
fixing themselves sometimes they tend to uh support uh governments they'll try and make a grab for us
00:39:48.680
as i said with history repeating you look back to when uh pierre went and took a shot at our our
00:39:54.280
resources before uh pierre trudeau back in the 80s the national energy program total disaster you know
00:40:00.360
just castrated alberta's economy much of that was just built on political envy because alberta was doing
00:40:05.960
fine and you know the funny thing is prior to that you know if you look at alberta oil history
00:40:11.080
because a part of their concern was that there was too much american ownership in the alberta oil field
00:40:15.240
but you see alberta hit oil back in the 40s was kind of the big ones there was oil before but the
00:40:19.800
real big ones with turner valley leduc those hit in the early 40s really started to boom but it was
00:40:24.920
still heavier oil expensive oil things in that and uh alberta at that time felt ottawa can you help us do
00:40:31.720
you want to buy alberta oil can you invest in it can you can you go along with this and they said no keep
00:40:35.480
your oil it's too expensive we can get our stuff from out east we can get it from tankers we don't
00:40:39.320
need your oil keep your alberta oil okay albertan leaders went stateside and american companies came
00:40:46.200
up and developed it and produced it and turned it into a good industry and then in the 70s when
00:40:50.600
the price shocks hit with yes another middle eastern war again history repeating suddenly alberta's booming
00:40:57.320
then they call us the blue-eyed sheiks now we're the bad guys now we're greedy now we're nasty
00:41:01.400
now the oil that was alberta's oil is suddenly canada's oil and pierre made a run for it and
00:41:07.960
what a disaster that was well justin's dumber than pierre so we we really really gotta watch out
00:41:17.080
when these trade wars come because we can be the tool that they want to use to try and fight back
00:41:21.400
with the united states and what have they got to lose we've got saskatchewan has zero liberal seats alberta
00:41:28.040
has two liberal seats one is george the porch pirate chahal who's never going to be re-elected
00:41:32.040
he was caught stealing mail from somebody's mailbox yeah these liberal members of parliament
00:41:35.480
are real pleasure and of course we got coca hontas up there in edmonton uh you know who is going down
00:41:42.200
in disgrace it's a wonder he hasn't been uh you know forced out of office just as it is so no there's
00:41:48.120
not going to be any liberal seats in alberta saskatchewan so seat wise what does trudeau care
00:41:53.080
if he beats the heck out of alberta and infuriates alberta he's got nothing to lose here
00:41:57.080
and that makes it dangerous it really does and then speaking of other weird policies uh you know
00:42:02.680
syria things have been interesting developing over there i guess i don't know if you could call it
00:42:06.040
interesting they've traded one bunch of fanatical dangerous tyrannical rapist murderer lunatics you
00:42:12.440
know assad was one of those and now assad is gone and they've got a different bunch of them in
00:42:19.080
so what it is much like afghanistan how many different uh you know regimes have gone in and it does show
00:42:26.120
the futility of messing around in foreign affairs i mean the taliban was kind of i know
00:42:30.760
people talk about it as you know dismisses conspiracies no there's truth to it i mean
00:42:35.720
osama bin laden was built up by american funding to fight the war against the afghan government and
00:42:44.360
fight against the russian incursion back then but then they created this monster that turned into the
00:42:48.360
taliban that took afghanistan and then they had to fight back that monster and they knocked the taliban
00:42:52.600
out for a while but the second the west left afghanistan the scumbags all moved back in took
00:42:58.120
over the taliban's basically in power again syria same thing assad uh you know terrible dictator
00:43:05.160
awful slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people it's funny it's a genocide when jews defend themselves
00:43:10.200
and kill 20 000 hamas scumbags but when assad kills 500 000 people in syria
00:43:17.160
suddenly the left is silent i don't know why muslim and muslim war isn't worth covering i guess
00:43:24.440
but the bottom line is we got to talk about some stuff guys those middle eastern countries are
00:43:29.160
theocratic cesspools run by islamic regimes they're going to be human rights nightmares no matter what
00:43:34.360
you do there's a common denominator among them guys it's radical islam that's the problem it doesn't
00:43:39.800
matter whether it's isis or hamas or hezbollah they they split they fight with each other they come up
00:43:45.480
with all these different names the bottom line is they're all islamist extremists that's what the
00:43:50.280
enemy is for and i'm just talking the enemy of humanity i talk about the enemy of decency the
00:43:56.760
enemy of human rights of economic development women's rights lgbtq rights it's islam and that's
00:44:03.080
what we got to be watching what do we got going on though well every other country that took in all
00:44:06.840
those syrian refugees and found out that they took in well not good europe did not enjoy it they had mass
00:44:12.600
rapes going on in germany uh all sorts of problems when they brought in those syrian refugees when
00:44:17.640
assad started his crap over 10 years ago europe as soon as assad was out said okay that's it the
00:44:22.440
refugee program is over we're getting them the heck out of here thanks for visiting guys go away
00:44:26.680
we took care of our part not canada though we're still bringing them in why why hey if assad's gone
00:44:34.600
the ones who are here should be going home to rebuild their country that was the point wasn't
00:44:37.720
it weren't we supposed to just house them until they could go home well now you can go home
00:44:40.440
instead we're still taking them in i don't know we got a lot of big problems guys we got a broken
00:44:45.960
parliament we got a lot of other stuff hate to leave on such a negative note i hope for the rest
00:44:49.240
of things positively you're all getting ready for christmas you're having a good time trying to keep
00:44:53.160
the spirits up i mean the world won't end even if it feels like it and especially the way i talk about
00:44:57.880
it but we got to talk about the negative things if we're going to fix them and there's lots to feed on
00:45:03.000
out here either way that's what i've got for today guys tune in next week i'm going to have
00:45:07.000
tony bernardo talk about yes the firearms grab and lots of other things so uh thank you for joining
00:45:12.920
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00:45:16.760
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