Western Standard - Jagmeet & Justin breakup

00:00:00.080 Good day! Today is September 4th, 2024. I am Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:09.140 I'm joined, as always, by Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Henniford.

00:00:13.360 Good afternoon again.

00:00:14.500 Good afternoon. And Western Standard senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.

00:00:18.400 Always a pleasure.

00:00:20.020 I always say, oh, we got a good show for you. But today, I really, really mean it.

00:00:25.640 We had zero trouble coming up with the topics today.

00:00:28.700 In fact, the biggest top story, the main story we're going to lead off at the top, came and just broke as we were cooking, coming up with our agenda for today, Nigel.

00:00:38.960 And we'll be starting to show off with Jake Mead and Justin Breakup.

00:00:44.360 That's right. The formal coalition agreement between Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party and Jake Mead Singh's NDP is over.

00:00:51.960 Huge news. Are we headed to an early election? God, I hope so. We'll discuss.

00:00:58.700 And B.C. United. Remember, the B.C. Liberals became B.C. United?

00:01:03.220 Well, B.C. is now united, but under the Conservative Party.

00:01:07.980 They ran up the white flag, folded like a cheap tent, but ultimately probably did the right thing for British Columbia and the Conservative movement, and very unprecedented, just stood down, stood down, and threw their support behind the B.C. Conservatives.

00:01:26.740 Absolute earthquake in B.C. political news that's going to have national ramifications.

00:01:31.840 Speaking of national ramifications, Justin Trudeau has appointed two very un-Albertans to represent Alberta in the Senate.

00:01:44.600 Christopher Wells, an activist whose time is mostly spent pushing puberty blockers on children and ensuring that men can go into the same washroom as women and play in the same sports league as them.

00:01:56.580 He will be representing Alberta in the Senate alongside Daryl Findhandler, who is most notable for donating lots of money to the Liberal Party.

00:02:07.040 They will take their spots in the Chamber of Silvers' second thought over the two women, the two Conservative women, who were elected to that position not that long ago.

00:02:18.600 And if we have time, we're going to get into a very important thing going on.

00:02:22.240 Justin Trudeau's big 100% tariff to protect electronic vehicle manufacturing that is already subsidized by the federal government in Ontario,

00:02:32.020 and a 25% tariff against Chinese steel inevitably has drawn a huge backlash from the Chinese, as one would expect.

00:02:43.100 But they're not going after EVs.

00:02:45.660 They're going after Western canola farmers.

00:02:49.360 Almost all the canola in Canada is produced here in the West, and that is where the consequences of this policy designed to protect Eastern EV manufacturing has fallen.

00:02:59.040 But I don't know why Justin doesn't call him some favors to his friends.

00:03:04.760 I mean, they're happy to help keep him in power.

00:03:07.180 They're happy to help send guys to help him win re-election.

00:03:09.580 I don't know why they just, you know, just don't sort this out, my gentlemen.

00:03:13.640 Okay.

00:03:14.780 So let's get into our big top story.

00:03:18.060 Nigel, you and I were sitting in the boardroom this morning talking, what are we going to talk about on the pipeline today?

00:03:24.660 And we had most of the show figured out, and then all of a sudden our news editor, Dave Naylor, piped in and says,

00:03:31.520 uh, Jagme just pulled the plug on Trudeau.

00:03:34.300 Now, that's not necessarily true.

00:03:36.860 He's pulled the plug on the, what they technically call the confidence in supply agreement,

00:03:42.520 effectively building a coalition government for all intents and purposes,

00:03:45.520 um, that gave the liberals essentially long hold on power in exchange for certain policy goodies,

00:03:51.800 most of which come with a very high price tag.

00:03:55.780 Um, before we get into where this is going to go, let's not talk about election, you know,

00:04:01.660 the next election yet, if they're going to get to an early election.

00:04:03.900 But maybe just your, your first thoughts on why, uh, why Jagmeet Singh felt the need to pull the plug,

00:04:11.340 at least on the formal coalition agreement between, uh, his NDP and the liberals.

00:04:15.620 Well, Derek, he knows there is an election coming no later than October next year.

00:04:22.000 What he has done since, uh, March of 2022, when the confidence and supply arrangement that you speak of came into effect,

00:04:32.360 is keep afloat a government that nobody likes.

00:04:37.340 Even he doesn't like it.

00:04:38.960 And he is, well, he's sold that cheap.

00:04:41.680 He should, he probably doesn't like it.

00:04:44.000 I mean, here's a guy who's, uh, sold his political soul.

00:04:48.140 And what has he got for it?

00:04:49.220 A dental program that serves the needs of half a million, very low-income, uh, Canadians.

00:04:55.240 And he doesn't even get the credit for it.

00:04:57.080 The liberals, uh, the liberals are saying, I think you made a point in your own column today

00:05:02.320 that he's sitting on the slide saying, say, hey, uh, that was actually me.

00:05:05.960 Well, he doesn't get the credit for that or anything else that has happened that he has made possible.

00:05:12.040 Now, at some point, he's got to face his own voters.

00:05:14.880 And he's got to say, I, I, I split, you know, finally, I did the right thing.

00:05:21.700 When there was no other option, I did the right thing.

00:05:25.220 And, uh, and I'm not really like Mr. Trudeau at all, even though I kept him from, to let, to leave it any later

00:05:32.540 would make it impossible even to say that little bit of an excuse.

00:05:36.880 So it had to come, it came.

00:05:40.100 Uh, Corey, I mean, they, they, they had their, in their supply and confidence slash coalition agreement.

00:05:46.480 There was a bunch of goodies.

00:05:47.980 Um, I mean, you know, the NDP, they can promise the world.

00:05:52.220 They never really have to worry about anything, about delivering anything because they know

00:05:54.840 they're not going to win federally.

00:05:55.880 But, uh, I mean, they were promised a lot in this and they got a lot.

00:06:00.320 Uh, they got unrestricted mass migration.

00:06:02.900 We have had insane levels of unrestricted, unverified mass migration coming into Canada.

00:06:09.040 That's something the NDP wanted. 0.85

00:06:10.420 It's something they got.

00:06:11.580 They got new social welfare programs.

00:06:13.640 Maybe not as big and far along the implementation as they like, but they got them.

00:06:17.780 Uh, and, uh, they got new, uh, new higher taxes, uh, carbon taxes, capital gains taxes.

00:06:23.840 These are all things they wanted.

00:06:25.040 And then more debt, uh, to pay for it all.

00:06:29.360 They got a lot.

00:06:30.420 There's a lot of policy from, from the left's perspective.

00:06:32.900 There's a lot of policy achievements to plant their flag on here.

00:06:37.780 Why would Singh pull the plug right now?

00:06:41.160 Well, part of his problem too, though, was the labor.

00:06:44.000 The labor wing of the party is not happy with the liberals or with Singh.

00:06:47.160 I mean, we can't forget that the liberals just imposed binding arbitration on that rail

00:06:51.240 strike with the Teamsters and the Teamsters are not happy at all with that.

00:06:55.540 Well, Singh has to wear some of that because he's propping up this government.

00:06:59.420 He can keep wagging his finger at Justin Trudeau and saying it's intolerable, but well, you've

00:07:03.120 got the power, Jagmeet.

00:07:04.440 You can stop this anytime you please.

00:07:07.240 He can only keep drawing lines in the sand and jumping back over them so many times.

00:07:13.440 Uh, so, I mean, that's part of where the problem is coming in.

00:07:15.460 Another part is, you know, the NDP support mass migration, but trade unions aren't so

00:07:20.100 thrilled with it.

00:07:21.280 Uh, they aren't so happy with these jobs coming in and, and that's the only wing left for

00:07:25.860 the NDP.

00:07:26.160 Well, it dilutes, it dilutes the, uh, the negotiating power for lower age, lower wage

00:07:30.520 people when there's always someone cheaper to do the job for you.

00:07:33.460 Oh yeah.

00:07:33.840 And Justin Trudeau has owned the left.

00:07:36.100 I mean, he, he's taken it.

00:07:37.720 He has shifted left.

00:07:38.820 He hasn't had to have his arm twisted that hard to bring in a dental plan and daycare

00:07:42.400 and lunch programs for schools and all the other stuff he's constantly announcing.

00:07:46.540 So where does the NDP retreat to?

00:07:48.820 What can they do anymore?

00:07:49.960 Well, they supposedly ostensibly are the labor party and labor just got stepped all over.

00:07:55.580 So he's got a, and I still think he's just posturing, but he's got to do some more posturing

00:08:00.480 right now because the, the, the union leaders, I'm sure are calling him up saying like, what

00:08:04.500 good are you, Mr. Singh?

00:08:05.820 Oh, he's got a, he's got a caucus retreat coming up in about two weeks.

00:08:10.280 Is it?

00:08:10.840 And, uh, and a by-election in Winnipeg.

00:08:14.580 And Montreal.

00:08:15.780 And in Montreal.

00:08:16.420 Well, I don't think the Montreal one is, is what's on his mind, but there's a real tight

00:08:20.880 fight in Elmwood Strathcona in Winnipeg.

00:08:24.400 No, no, Montreal's tight too, but it's a three way between the, the liberals, NDP and the

00:08:28.120 bloc.

00:08:28.680 Here, you know, he actually owns the one in Winnipeg at the moment.

00:08:31.980 If he loses that, uh, that's going to look bad on him.

00:08:35.500 And this is a step in, I guess, in rallying the troops.

00:08:39.920 So, uh, how much, so, okay. 0.99

00:08:42.940 Here, Poliev, um, he's been a bit, you can see this, uh, fuck a better term, the shitted 0.98

00:08:48.360 grin on his face as he, uh, you know, taunts J.B. Singh, calling him sellout Singh, saying, 0.98

00:08:55.940 uh, the reason you're not, the reason you're still working for Trudeau, the reason you're

00:08:59.980 not willing to vote non-confidence and trigger an election to get rid of this guy is because

00:09:04.180 you sold out.

00:09:04.940 You're waiting on your pension.

00:09:06.540 You're waiting for your pension to vest.

00:09:07.740 And that is, liberals were very smart.

00:09:10.220 They moved the election back one week for all their guys to invest in their pension.

00:09:15.600 And Jake Mead Singh, very smart, because if they wait till that fixed election date, they

00:09:21.440 all get their big pension.

00:09:22.960 I mean, can you imagine you've served six years in parliament and you're short one week

00:09:27.820 from that sweet pension?

00:09:29.540 I mean, it doesn't matter your politics.

00:09:33.000 You've got to be pissed.

00:09:34.120 And it doesn't matter your politics.

00:09:35.540 There are about 80 members of parliament to whom this applies from all parties.

00:09:41.020 Yes.

00:09:41.900 Now, the conservatives aren't worried about it because every single conservative is extremely

00:09:46.300 likely to win their seats back.

00:09:48.560 The bloc, not all of them, but most of them.

00:09:51.260 But the liberals and the NDP, a bunch of them are going to lose and their pensions are on

00:09:56.860 the line.

00:09:57.140 So it applies across parties, but it really only matters if you're going to lose your seat.

00:10:00.880 If you're going to win your seat, you're fine.

00:10:01.860 So Paul Yevon has been kind of twisted in the knife, caught him sellouts, saying this is

00:10:07.600 about his pension and whatnot.

00:10:10.060 Start with you, Corey.

00:10:11.660 Is that fair?

00:10:13.460 And do you think that it really got under his skin?

00:10:17.600 Do you think that was, was that a major reason?

00:10:21.080 First thing, breaking off the, their formal agreement with the liberals now, or was it

00:10:28.920 everything else we've already been discussing?

00:10:30.560 Well, I think it was everything else, but that adds to it.

00:10:33.120 I mean, and I don't know if it's necessarily fair, but it's effective and it's, it's, it's

00:10:38.180 getting under his skin.

00:10:39.360 There's no doubt about it.

00:10:40.100 Because to be honest, and a lot of people have that discussion, I don't think Sings that 1.00

00:10:43.600 himself, anyways, is that motivated by the pension.

00:10:45.840 It's a rich one.

00:10:46.900 He's going to win a seat.

00:10:47.740 His own seat, he's going to win a game.

00:10:48.940 Yeah, and he's already rich.

00:10:50.500 He's the Rolex leader of the socialists.

00:10:52.740 He wears two Rolexes.

00:10:53.620 Yeah, he, his wife sits on the, what, $20,000 breastfeeding chairs or whatever other stuff

00:10:58.720 they've done.

00:10:59.520 The pension, I mean, I'm certain he doesn't want to turn away money, but he's not hard

00:11:03.840 pressed no matter how you look at it.

00:11:05.380 So I'm sure that has to be actually all the more galling when that's not part of your

00:11:09.400 motivation for this, but you got to sit there and keep taking that needle in.

00:11:12.380 And what's he going to say to his own voters?

00:11:14.680 I don't need it.

00:11:15.440 I'm already rich.

00:11:16.460 Are you really going to say that as the NDP socialist reader?

00:11:18.940 So it's an effective way to get under his skin.

00:11:21.720 I mean, how good of politicking in general it is for Paliyev, I don't know.

00:11:25.920 But that's been kind of his style.

00:11:27.000 It always has been.

00:11:27.820 Even when he wasn't leading the party, he was the badgering, pestering opposition member

00:11:32.780 who would really get on them in committees and things.

00:11:34.720 So he's just turned his sights at Singh and Singh's vulnerable.

00:11:37.700 Okay, so let's turn now towards what's going to come from this.

00:11:44.680 My best bet, as I wrote my column this morning, is that on the very first day that parliament

00:11:49.900 comes back this fall, Paliyev is going to stand up, take one look at Trudeau, and he's

00:11:56.960 going to take another look, look down the aisle a bit at Singh, and he's going to table a motion

00:12:01.420 of non-confidence, and he's going to look Singh in the eye the whole time he does it and

00:12:06.240 say, let's, you say you're done your agreement with Trudeau?

00:12:10.940 Let's see how serious you are.

00:12:12.760 Stand up and be counted.

00:12:13.940 Let's have a vote of non-confidence.

00:12:15.380 Nigel, where do you think that would go?

00:12:20.900 Because I think it's good money, first day of parliament, we're getting a non-confidence

00:12:24.040 motion tabled by Paliyev.

00:12:26.440 Does Singh pick up the bait?

00:12:29.180 No, not in the slightest chance will he pick up the bait.

00:12:33.820 He cannot afford to.

00:12:36.280 There is no money in the NDP.

00:12:38.640 They have only just finished paying off the $22 million that they borrowed to fight the

00:12:46.060 2021 election.

00:12:48.340 The contributions to the party have been contaminated by the confidence and supply agreement.

00:12:55.420 NDP supporters don't like it.

00:12:58.100 They have taken in something like $6.9 million in the first two quarters of this year, which

00:13:06.780 is nothing.

00:13:07.440 The conservatives have taken in $20.5 million and the liberals about half of that.

00:13:19.780 The same pattern repeats in 2023.

00:13:24.680 The people, the supporters are not stepping up to the plate to pay for it.

00:13:30.220 So he has no money to fight.

00:13:32.140 And even if he borrows again, he starts it from a situation where in the polls, they are

00:13:38.920 way, way down.

00:13:40.420 So they are not popular.

00:13:42.220 And there are all sorts of good reasons for it, which we've just gone over.

00:13:45.480 So I think that he will actually stretch this out as long as he possibly can, and possibly

00:13:52.400 all the way until October of next year, all the while saying, well, we're with you on

00:13:58.660 this.

00:13:59.100 We're with you on that.

00:14:00.200 If Mr. Trudeau really wants an election, he'll have to put out something that Mr. Singh

00:14:04.820 can support.

00:14:05.520 Well, and we know Joseph Trudeau most certainly does not want an election right now.

00:14:10.740 He would get utterly nuked by Polyev. 0.77

00:14:14.200 And I think there's a few other reasons why if I was Jaymeet Singh, I would not trigger

00:14:20.640 an election.

00:14:21.420 Yeah, it's embarrassing.

00:14:22.780 Yeah, you have to walk around with your tail between your legs.

00:14:26.580 But what's the old saying?

00:14:28.020 That discretion is a better part of valor.

00:14:29.720 And right now, I think that really applies to Jaymeet Singh.

00:14:32.480 If I was advising Jaymeet Singh, I'd say, sir, you would be crazy to do it.

00:14:36.920 They're probably going to lose some seats.

00:14:39.280 The NDP is roughly equal to where they were in the polls in the last election, maybe ever so

00:14:43.220 slightly down, but they're about where they were.

00:14:45.340 But the conservatives are so much higher, having sucked up half the liberal vote nearly

00:14:50.200 that a little less, I'd say 40% liberal vote, that they're not just going to take seats from

00:14:55.880 the liberals, they're going to take seats from the NDP as well.

00:14:57.840 So the NDP is going to lose seats.

00:15:00.000 And very importantly, they're going to lose all their influence.

00:15:02.680 So even without their supply and confidence coalition agreement, they're still the unofficial

00:15:08.460 junior partner to the liberals in parliament.

00:15:10.940 They have influence.

00:15:12.180 Justin Trudeau does not want an election, so he's got to keep the NDP happy.

00:15:15.980 Well, if there's an election, with a high degree of probability, there's going to be

00:15:20.560 a massive majority conservative government.

00:15:23.600 And the NDP will have zero influence in that.

00:15:27.080 All they'll be able to do is sit in the cheap seats of parliament and scream, please stop.

00:15:31.880 For the love of God, please stop.

00:15:33.560 And they're going to watch in the first few months of a poly of government as he essentially

00:15:38.180 legislates away everything they achieved with Justin Trudeau.

00:15:41.980 From their perspective, if he can get get it past the Senate, which is true.

00:15:47.440 Oh, we'll come to that.

00:15:48.980 Yeah.

00:15:49.360 Yeah.

00:15:50.360 Well, there's ways you essentially you load everything into the into the budget.

00:15:53.900 You essentially only do budgets because the Senate can't kill budgets. 0.99

00:15:56.700 You just put everything into a budget, big omnibus bill.

00:15:59.940 Senate can't kill budgets. 1.00

00:16:01.160 That's that's the one rule.

00:16:02.320 That's probably the one real way around the Senate is put or at least put money bills into

00:16:06.580 every piece of legislation you do.

00:16:08.820 So the Senate can't kill it.

00:16:11.340 That's that's an interesting thought for writing there.

00:16:14.840 Remind me to bring that to me after.

00:16:16.340 Let's let's let's do some writing on that.

00:16:17.780 So, Corey, is there any good reason for Trudeau for saying to pull the plug?

00:16:28.900 We've we've talked about all the negatives.

00:16:30.740 Well, why from his perspective, he probably shouldn't.

00:16:32.980 Well, he probably won't.

00:16:34.900 What's is there anything in the plus column?

00:16:37.240 There's none.

00:16:38.220 There really is none.

00:16:39.600 He's been writing with Trudeau so long and Trudeau's support has collapsed and he's collapsed

00:16:44.660 along with it.

00:16:45.280 They haven't been able to capitalize from the liberal, you know, unpopularity.

00:16:50.200 If he'd have been at some degree of separation from the liberals, perhaps even if Trudeau is

00:16:53.820 losing popularity, some of that would drift to the NDP.

00:16:56.940 But it hasn't.

00:16:58.460 And, you know, the formula for pulling the pin on a parliament means whether we like it

00:17:02.420 or not, not for the good of the country.

00:17:03.820 It's with the good of your party.

00:17:05.380 And there's just absolutely nothing on the plus side of the column or seeing to look at

00:17:11.280 and say this would be a good idea.

00:17:13.740 I mean, there's no chance, at least as things look right now, that, you know, that they

00:17:17.400 would gain seats unless there was some sort of phenomenal campaign they held.

00:17:21.360 As much as he is going to be galling to sit for this next year and constantly just talk

00:17:25.640 big and then act weak, it's still better than going to the polls at this point and just,

00:17:31.820 as you said, losing seats.

00:17:32.960 There's no reason for him to go.

00:17:34.480 So he's going to talk a lot, but I'll be pretty darn shocked if he ever actually.

00:17:38.560 Now, there is this thing to mention that we sit here and we work it out and we parse

00:17:43.700 it out and we think, well, if this, then that doesn't make any sense, won't happen.

00:17:48.400 But sometimes accidents do happen.

00:17:50.740 We've been wrong before.

00:17:51.740 We can't get into his mind necessarily.

00:17:54.080 It is actually very, very close.

00:17:55.880 If you look at the seat distribution, liberals have got 154, the conservatives have got 119.

00:18:02.480 You know, the Bloc Quebecois would be enough to do it.

00:18:06.360 You just need one liberal member of parliament taken to hospitals with the symptoms of a heart

00:18:13.940 attack and another one stuck in traffic.

00:18:17.160 And then you are down to the situation where when the bells goes, they lose by one vote.

00:18:22.000 These things don't happen very often, but they have happened.

00:18:26.080 So all of our speculation here, which I think is right, I don't think there will be an election

00:18:30.840 for all the reasons that Corey has advanced and that you have talked about, it could still

00:18:36.900 happen by accident.

00:18:38.640 Okay.

00:18:39.960 Well, speaking of by accident, let's try to make some sense of what the hell has been going

00:18:46.060 on in British Columbia.

00:18:47.500 For the longest time, BC politics has been utterly uninteresting to me, and I think to

00:18:53.520 most people outside of BC, maybe even most people in BC, you had the left party, and then

00:18:59.900 you had the BC liberals, which on some days were a center-right party, on some days a center-left

00:19:05.400 party.

00:19:06.780 You didn't have any real big disagreement between the major parties since at least Gordon

00:19:13.080 Campbell.

00:19:13.420 Well, Gordon Campbell's first two terms were, I think, definitively on the center-right,

00:19:17.860 kind of in the Mike Harris, almost Ralph Klein mold that you saw coming through the, I guess

00:19:24.500 he was picking up at the very end of it, but coming out of the late 90s, early 2000s, and

00:19:29.860 you know, Christy Clark had her moments, but no one would call her a conservative standard-bearer

00:19:34.620 by any measure.

00:19:37.040 You've had, you had John Rostad, Russ, did I say it right?

00:19:41.920 Rostad?

00:19:42.480 Rostad.

00:19:43.140 I keep on saying Brunstad, but it's Rostad.

00:19:46.120 It's the German.

00:19:47.080 Yes.

00:19:49.240 John Rostad kicked out by Kevin Falcon for disagreeing with orthodoxy around global warming,

00:19:55.980 and boy, oh boy, did that turn out to be one bad decision.

00:20:03.180 I mean, if you could point to one, you know, where did the butterfly flap its wings that

00:20:09.580 created the hurricane?

00:20:10.800 It was Kevin Falcon kicking John Rostad out of the B.C. Liberals slash B.C. United Caucus.

00:20:18.340 And there's many reasons, I mean, confusing brand changes.

00:20:22.880 It all goes from disaster to disaster, and it culminated last week with the formal,

00:20:30.660 effectively, nearly unconditional abdication of the B.C. United Liberals to the conservatives.

00:20:37.220 So we now have a B.C. United Party, just not very much in the fashion that Kevin Falcon

00:20:42.960 and the B.C. United expected.

00:20:45.600 So essentially, they're not formally abolishing the party, at least not quite yet.

00:20:50.600 It's just standing down.

00:20:52.200 They're suspending the campaign.

00:20:53.460 They're not going to run candidates.

00:20:56.320 I mean, I suppose if the conservatives were to lose the election, B.C. United could revive

00:21:01.880 itself after the next election, at least on paper, but it would have a hard time at that

00:21:05.220 point with no MLA's.

00:21:07.220 I'll start with you, Nigel.

00:21:12.100 You've written on this.

00:21:15.060 Does this mean it's completely in the bag for the conservatives, or does this just give the

00:21:21.600 conservatives maybe the edge over the NDP?

00:21:24.260 The latter.

00:21:25.200 For all the reasons that I was saying about the other situation, accidents happen.

00:21:30.380 You never know what's going to happen in an election campaign.

00:21:33.460 Somebody could, an uncomfortable truth could be produced about somebody that just changes

00:21:40.500 voter perceptions.

00:21:42.180 The so-called bozo eruption.

00:21:44.500 You have an inexperienced slate of candidates there in the conservatives.

00:21:50.340 Some are experienced.

00:21:51.840 They're already MLAs.

00:21:52.400 But there's a lot of people who haven't really learned how to campaign.

00:21:57.120 So I would never say it's in the bag.

00:21:59.740 But it definitely, they definitely have the edge on the NDP at this moment, because the

00:22:08.100 NDP has done so many things that have made people so angry.

00:22:13.060 Let me name just a couple.

00:22:16.040 This whole safe supply thing.

00:22:18.080 We don't have that issue here in Alberta.

00:22:21.360 But in BC, people are absolutely furious.

00:22:24.460 But a drug addict ends up in hospital, and the nurse is obliged to provide him with his pipe

00:22:30.560 and whatever goes with it.

00:22:33.000 That's a huge one.

00:22:34.160 Another one is the sort of abandonment of provincial authority, essentially, to native interests.

00:22:43.140 Giving away the land.

00:22:45.220 I mean, you can have that discussion as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing.

00:22:49.180 What is clear is that people don't like it.

00:22:52.640 They have, the NDP, has put BC in the kind of debt that it has never seen before.

00:22:59.000 Again, people understand that.

00:23:02.820 They feel the ramifications of it in the tax bill.

00:23:06.360 So there is a tremendous amount of disgust, disappointment, and despair over the NDP.

00:23:14.600 David Eby, the man who became premier after John Horgan, is not John Horgan.

00:23:22.140 Horgan, you know, he was NDP, probably didn't agree with him on a lot of things.

00:23:26.640 But he was actually not a bad sort of guy.

00:23:28.260 If he were to fortuitously arrive, see him walking past the window, then come in and sit down at this table.

00:23:33.920 You would enjoy John Horgan.

00:23:35.980 But you would not enjoy David Eby in the same way.

00:23:41.320 So the NDP have got a lot against them.

00:23:44.360 Rustad doesn't have much baggage.

00:23:46.880 When you're a new party, you have that luxury.

00:23:49.440 And there is something appealing about somebody who gets kicked out of the party because he doesn't follow, you know, the bromide of the day, in this case about global warming.

00:24:00.740 And sort of comes back and does a reverse takeover.

00:24:04.080 It was, hey, that's kind of cute.

00:24:06.320 I like that.

00:24:06.880 Everyone kind of fantasizes about getting kicked, fired by your boss, then you come back, you become the boss of Fire Emblem.

00:24:13.240 Well, it's the Seven Stone Weekly who put muscles up with the Charles Atlas program.

00:24:17.280 You know, I don't know whether that's a relevant cultural reference these days.

00:24:21.040 But at any rate, he's the comeback kid, and a lot of people will find that appealing.

00:24:26.160 So the short answer, yeah, they're in with a good chance.

00:24:32.600 I'm having, part of me thinks like, haha, you're sticking it to Kevin Falcon.

00:24:39.620 He had it coming.

00:24:40.660 He kicked this guy out for no good reason, and now he is given his abject total political surrender.

00:24:48.460 But there's also a part of me that thinks Kevin Falcon did the noble thing here for the first, because, you know, I'm generally like, I like political diversity, where there's actual differences between the parties.

00:25:02.420 But the BC, BC United slash BC Liberals exists or existed for one reason and one reason only.

00:25:10.740 And that is the traditional role of the British Columbia's stop the Socialist Party.

00:25:16.620 And, you know, we've talked, I think we talked about this last, we've talked about this many times before.

00:25:21.740 It's taken the form of the Conservatives a long time ago, and then it took the form of Social Credit, and then it took the form of the Liberals.

00:25:27.700 And now it's taking the form of the Conservatives again.

00:25:30.480 The Conservatives are just a much more robust version of it than, say, the Liberals were.

00:25:34.080 This is more in line with maybe the earlier Liberals or versions of Social Credit, Van Der Zand, guys like that.

00:25:40.060 So, the BC United Liberal Party existed only for the sole purpose of keeping the NDP out.

00:25:48.680 Its continued existence was working to achieve the exact opposite of its stated purpose of existence.

00:25:55.780 So, how do you think history is going to look at Kevin Falcon here?

00:26:03.160 And let's just say, for argument's sake, the Conservatives do win.

00:26:06.620 Because I'd say, at this point, I'd favor them to win.

00:26:09.840 Not just to play him dunk, but I'm making a bet.

00:26:11.820 I'm going to say it's probably Conservatives.

00:26:12.960 Is it going to view him as this hapless disaster of a leader who tried to kill their leader and was, you know, had to surrender in humiliation on the way out?

00:26:25.040 Or the man who, yeah, maybe screwed up, but did the right thing to help defeat the Socialists?

00:26:31.780 How do you think history of BC is going to remember Kevin Falcon?

00:26:34.460 I think, for the most part, people won't remember him at all.

00:26:36.420 Well, it's not saying he hasn't been in that terribly long.

00:26:44.400 And it was a lackluster leadership.

00:26:47.360 He did step in it.

00:26:48.780 I mean, people currently are saying thank you for taking one for the team because this was putting a real risk of putting the NDP back in.

00:26:56.640 But realistically, they still kind of in the back of their minds are saying, but you put us here in the first bloody place to begin with.

00:27:02.680 So, I noticed he stepped right out, too.

00:27:05.560 He said, you know, I'm not running, I'm not doing, I'm gone, I'm done.

00:27:09.400 I can imagine there's been some backroom discussions.

00:27:11.920 I remember when the Wild Roles and the Alberta Alliance came together and I was on the board back then.

00:27:15.560 It took till our donors basically were smacking our heads together saying, look, you're not getting any money, you're not getting any support unless you get it together.

00:27:22.600 We're not telling you how to do it, we're just saying do it or you're broke.

00:27:25.580 And I'm certain the discussions got to that point in BC.

00:27:28.940 It wasn't a point of principle, I think, so much with Falcon to step aside.

00:27:34.060 It was a realization that it still would look better doing this now than going into an election, getting obliterated, but being known as the spoiler who put the NDP back in for four more years.

00:27:43.760 So, he's, yeah, not to be too cruel, but I think he's going to be viewed as a political blip, you know, a footnote for political wonks like us, but people in general, he just kind of came and went.

00:27:55.360 I think in large measure, you're right.

00:27:59.040 I mean, he had no choice, but I think to surrender, but to make, to actually do it.

00:28:06.360 I've never seen anything like, some people have tried to compare it to Daniel Smith's floor crossing from the Wild Roles of the P season in December 2015, sorry, 2014.

00:28:15.660 It doesn't hold up there.

00:28:18.660 There's, there's, there was no game for him here.

00:28:20.880 He lost his leadership.

00:28:22.900 He lost, he's not even running as an MLA.

00:28:26.020 He can't.

00:28:26.620 I mean, what's he going to do, sit as a backbencher in Redstead's caucus after he got kicked, after he kicked Redstead out, he came back and ate him alive?

00:28:34.160 I think he did do the right thing, and I think he, he did do it in large measure for the right reasons, but I think he also did it at the end of the road.

00:28:44.300 There was nowhere left to go.

00:28:46.620 They were looking at zero seats, and he helped, at the very least, save some of his colleagues' seats.

00:28:52.780 So part of this, it's not that, the reason I said earlier it was a nearly unconditional surrender is because there does seem to have been some conditions.

00:29:02.000 The B.C. Conservatives have reopened their nominations, and that is to allow some of these B.C. United Liberals to come over and sit.

00:29:10.980 Well, you still want to keep your incumbents if you can get them.

00:29:12.580 Yeah.

00:29:12.940 Now, they're not taking all of them because some of them are real liberals, real, real liberals that probably don't belong in the B.C. Conservative Party.

00:29:20.600 But, you know, some of them, some of them probably do belong in there, and they want to bring them along.

00:29:24.860 And that's tough for people who won nominations to be the B.C. Conservative candidate, and all of a sudden, the leader's saying, hey, in the name of the greater good, I'm sorry, you got to go.

00:29:36.860 We're making room for the B.C. United Liberal candidate that you were opposed to just 24 hours ago.

00:29:42.680 So that's tough.

00:29:44.200 So, you know, the B.C. Conservatives are swallowing some here.

00:29:47.740 In order for Kevin Falcon to wear, to be able to say with a straight face, they said they're going to improve their vetting process because, you know,

00:29:54.920 they were going after some B.C. Conservative candidates that maybe said some embarrassing things.

00:30:00.480 And, you know, Corey and I, we came from wild rows in tough times.

00:30:05.580 It's hard to do a thorough vetting of all your candidates.

00:30:08.320 So when you're small and you don't have huge resources to put a private investigator to go through the toilet paper of every candidate, I mean, it's, you can end up with some.

00:30:19.680 As Nigel said, there's still some room for some eruptions.

00:30:23.160 You can imagine there's probably already knowledge on the part of the B.C. NDP, but they're keeping their powder dry.

00:30:28.600 You don't blow these guys up now.

00:30:30.400 You wait until two weeks before elections.

00:30:31.920 You wait until the advanced polls are about to open.

00:30:33.480 Actually, they already pitched out the opening shot.

00:30:36.220 They said, Mr. Rastad, you should fire everyone who supported the convoy.

00:30:40.300 Yeah.

00:30:40.700 Yeah.

00:30:40.980 And that's a beginning, but there's going to be some gems.

00:30:45.080 There's going to be somebody who tweeted something truly, you know.

00:30:47.800 But the Conservatives did put some water in their wine here.

00:30:50.620 I mean, a hell of a lot less than the B.C. United Liberals.

00:30:54.320 They, I mean, they drank the poison, but the Conservatives put some water in their wine.

00:31:00.100 And it seems to be a good deal for them.

00:31:02.900 I mean, they've got them out of the way.

00:31:07.040 All right.

00:31:08.600 Well, let's, speaking of elections, let's talk about some of the only politicians in the civilized world who were not elected in what are nominally a democracy.

00:31:19.840 Canadian senators.

00:31:21.680 So just the other week, Justin Trudeau appointed the very nonpartisan, totally not anti-conservative liberal Charles Adler to the Senate to represent Manitoba.

00:31:34.760 Well, Manitoba does not hold Senate elections, so whatever.

00:31:39.600 You get to appoint whoever you want.

00:31:42.280 You know, but it just sticks, I think, under all of our claws a bit that Justin Trudeau has the gall to call these people independent, that they're not anything but his servants.

00:31:50.660 But, boy, he really went out of his way in Alberta.

00:31:57.360 He appointed people who could not get elected dog catcher in Alberta.

00:32:03.040 First was Daryl Finhandler.

00:32:06.300 If you haven't heard of him, that's okay.

00:32:08.280 Nobody else has as well, except for whoever's keeping the roll call list of liberal donors in Alberta.

00:32:16.400 This guy is notable only for making some substantial financial contributions to the Liberal Party.

00:32:24.460 Now, to be fair, that is the single oldest criteria for getting appointed to the Senate in Canadian history.

00:32:31.880 It started with Sir John A. MacDonald.

00:32:34.400 Give the conservatives a little cash for Sir John A.

00:32:37.500 Good chance, you've really improved your chances of a Senate seat.

00:32:41.740 So, you know, that's not a new thing.

00:32:43.100 So, that's a long and proud Canadian tradition of corruption.

00:32:48.900 And it goes right back to our beginning.

00:32:51.380 But, again, obviously not very independent, not very nonpartisan.

00:32:55.540 But the real one, I think the one that we all like talking about, is Christopher Wells.

00:33:02.540 Now, Christopher Wells has got some BS job at a BS university.

00:33:08.640 I'm not sure if it's fair to call them all BS.

00:33:10.260 But it's certainly his department, it's a BS department at the university, and he's got a BS role there.

00:33:15.540 He's the head of gender studies and various, have you got his formal job title there?

00:33:24.800 I mean, it...

00:33:26.260 So, Dr. Wells is the associate professor in the Department of Child and Youth Care at McEwen University.

00:33:36.840 He holds McEwen's first Canada research chair for the public understanding of sexual and gender minority youth.

00:33:45.700 He is an adjunct professor in the Department of Psychiatry.

00:33:50.300 He founded the McEwen Center for Sexual and Gender Diversity.

00:33:54.900 There is more, but I think that gives the flavor.

00:33:58.560 We get the point.

00:33:59.300 There is considerably more, actually.

00:34:00.760 So, this guy, I mean, unfortunately, like many people in this area, went well beyond the perfectly reasonable demands of the gay rights movement for equality.

00:34:13.980 He's left that long behind him.

00:34:16.540 He has long since moved on to kind of the, well beyond the bake my cake or go to jail or I'll see you phase.

00:34:24.000 He is in the, your children should be allowed to transition genders and sexes, and the parents shouldn't know.

00:34:34.300 That purebity blockers should be available to young children, and the parents shouldn't know or have anything to do with it.

00:34:41.700 That men should be allowed to play on women's sports teams, and that men should be allowed in the same change rooms as biological females. 0.99

00:34:50.360 That appears to be, those are the highlights of his career.

00:34:55.980 That is what he's known for.

00:34:57.460 The legacy mainstream media paid for by Justin Trudeau, quote him ad nauseum, anytime anything comes up, quoting him with extreme reverence.

00:35:08.980 When Daniel Smith announced that Alberta is going to restrict the use of puberty blockers for young children, and that men will not be allowed to play on women's sports teams.

00:35:18.960 He came out, and I forget, I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but I think, I'm not going on a limb to say, he said, this is going to kill people.

00:35:27.600 You're going to kill, you're trying to kill LGTBQ plus ABCXY youth. 1.00

00:35:35.780 This man is an extremist, and Justin Trudeau found him perfectly suitable to be appointed to the Senate. 0.52

00:35:40.900 He is also the author of a book, How to Form a Gay-Straight Alliance, which has been endorsed and issued by the Alberta Teachers Association, which seems to very much reflect his views in these matters.

00:35:58.400 Well, I don't even really care much about Gay-Straight Alliance's, they're a kid's club. 0.99

00:36:05.380 My only problem there was the obsessive need for secrecy, to hide everything from parents, which, you know, once upon a time, I was sympathetic to the argument that, okay, well, some kids might not be welcome at home if they come out as gay or something.

00:36:19.860 But then the obsession with secrecy around this stuff just started to get a little too fishy for me now, and I just don't trust activists like this.

00:36:31.740 Nigel, you called this a very deliberate insult to Albertan's disappointment.

00:36:36.660 Well, I did, and the reason that I did so was that Premier Smith has taken what I think is a widely supported position with regard to gender transition.

00:36:48.040 She has said that children 17 years old and under will not be able to do this.

00:36:56.480 They won't take the puberty blockers.

00:36:58.580 They won't get the surgery.

00:37:00.980 And that recognizes that when they are adults, if that's what they want to do, they can do it.

00:37:10.900 But as she said when she made the original announcement, that period of life is one when people often are quite confused and mixed up, and the job is to get them through it later, if they are determined, then they can do it.

00:37:26.960 So this, of course, is anathema to people who think in the manner of Dr. Wells.

00:37:34.440 They feel and have been actively pursuing, and that's a little bit part where these gay-straight alliances led to,

00:37:43.260 the idea that there was a secret life that a child could have and that the parents didn't have a right to know

00:37:50.400 and that the state could become in place of the parents and permit and allow these surgeries and these puberty blockers to be issued.

00:38:02.220 So she's drawn that line in the sand.

00:38:05.820 That is a direct throwing, you know, mixing the metaphors a little.

00:38:09.280 Then she threw the gauntlet across it.

00:38:11.000 So she has challenged this whole way of thinking in Alberta's academic establishment.

00:38:17.680 Well, Mr. Trudeau obviously is not a fan of our premier, and has said, I'll show you.

00:38:24.120 Here, have him for a senator.

00:38:26.280 It would be like taking a very activist, Roman Catholic nun, strongly pro-life, and making her a senator in Quebec.

00:38:38.440 How do you think, you know, how do you think that the Quebec people who are, you know,

00:38:46.240 and I'm not saying they're all pro-choice, but they certainly, generally speaking, religion is on the downswing in Quebec.

00:38:52.880 Why this?

00:38:53.920 That person does not represent who I am, what I think, and it doesn't represent my interests.

00:38:59.420 And I think when Dr. Wells comes up against the Alberta interests, which are principally energy, energy security,

00:39:06.400 and the canola fight we're about to have, he doesn't have a clue.

00:39:11.440 That's not his file.

00:39:13.060 So he's not a representative.

00:39:15.100 That's why I call him out on it.

00:39:17.260 Corey, your show earlier today, I didn't catch it yet, I'll watch it a rerun,

00:39:21.080 but you interviewed senator-in-waiting Erica Barutz, who was democratically elected by the people of Elbert,

00:39:28.340 I think to be number two on the list of senators-in-waiting.

00:39:31.280 I'm sure she found the choice of this very extreme activist man, man to be curious,

00:39:42.940 to be appointed over her, who was elected.

00:39:46.760 I thought it was 2015.

00:39:50.780 What's that?

00:39:51.560 Because it's 2015, you know?

00:39:53.100 I got women get, you know, got to be half. 1.00

00:39:55.520 What happened to appointing women? 1.00

00:39:57.520 Perhaps the two that are elected, rather than these extreme men who are wildly offside with even the middle of public opinion in Alberta.

00:40:08.500 He certainly wasn't looking for gender parity.

00:40:10.320 She also pointed out, though, that the prior appointment to the Senate, there was a woman that Trudeau did,

00:40:15.600 he made a point of doing it during our Senate election.

00:40:19.380 In the middle of the campaign, he picked out liberal Karen Sorensen, 0.85

00:40:23.900 slapped a coat of independent paint on her, and said,

00:40:27.780 this is your new senator in Alberta.

00:40:29.700 You guys are all wasting your time on this election.

00:40:32.360 This is just another opportunity for him to do like his father did,

00:40:35.340 and give the finger to the West, and that's what this is.

00:40:37.280 He's using the Senate to basically say, up yours, I don't care what you think,

00:40:40.800 and I can just show you how I don't care what you think,

00:40:43.440 by picking senators who are truly the opposite of what the majority of your province wants to see representing you.

00:40:50.300 So, I mean, Eric, Maruti didn't seem surprised at all by this.

00:40:54.020 I mean, they go into it knowing their chances of being appointed by a liberal government are pretty much slim to none.

00:41:01.780 The other thing that was noteworthy, though, is that those seats had been vacant for years.

00:41:05.800 This isn't something that he needed to do.

00:41:08.280 Well, that adds another element to it.

00:41:10.880 Maybe he is worried about the security of his government when he's starting to fill these seats,

00:41:14.560 when he's taken years leaving them vacant.

00:41:16.200 Well, one of the biggest mistakes of Stephen Harper was leaving so many vacancies at the end of his prime ministership to be filled by Justin Trudeau.

00:41:23.920 The Senate is just such a sick and abused institution from many governments, not just the liberals, actually,

00:41:29.960 that it's just a rotten system. 0.98

00:41:32.300 Disappointment system is terrible. 0.98

00:41:34.020 Sick and abused, yes, but it still has powers.

00:41:37.920 I want to draw attention to a column that came in from one of our columnists.

00:41:42.740 We published it earlier this morning, in which, this is John Hilton O'Brien,

00:41:47.480 and he makes the point that the Senate is not without power.

00:41:50.360 We think it is just a rubber stamp, but in actual fact, it does two things.

00:41:54.760 One is that it gives its members credibility, and now Dr. Wells can put on his business card,

00:42:01.700 senator of Canada, people will listen to him in a way that they would not have listened to him

00:42:07.520 when he was just the adjunct professor of who knows what at McEwen, where?

00:42:11.640 Oh, Alberta.

00:42:12.860 You know, like, he didn't have much clout.

00:42:17.880 But with this, if he wants to challenge the findings, shall we say,

00:42:22.540 and this is the point that our columnist is making,

00:42:24.800 the Cass report in Great Britain poured a lot of cold water

00:42:28.520 on this whole matter of gender transition in teenagers,

00:42:32.940 well, he's now in a position to say, oh, no, no, they got it completely wrong,

00:42:36.720 and he has the credibility of the Canadian Senate behind him to do so,

00:42:41.740 which will be enough for some people to say, oh, well, the Canadian senator says.

00:42:47.060 The other thing he could do, I mean, it's not out of the question

00:42:50.140 that he could have a private member's bill that would impinge on this matter.

00:42:55.440 Don't forget, we think that these certain things are provincial jurisdictions,

00:42:59.800 but, you know, the federal government moved in on health,

00:43:03.980 and what was once a provincial jurisdiction got mixed up in federal politics.

00:43:08.360 They're even trying to make school lunches now.

00:43:10.120 They recognize no boundaries.

00:43:11.920 Exactly.

00:43:12.940 So somebody with that, driven by those priorities,

00:43:16.320 seated in the Senate is in a position to make all kinds of messy trouble

00:43:21.240 that we're not going to enjoy.

00:43:24.500 So read John Hilton O'Brien.

00:43:27.140 Read it.

00:43:28.380 Right on.

00:43:29.680 I wish we had time to get to our last piece,

00:43:34.060 which is, you know,

00:43:37.040 Trudeau has been shoveling tens and tens of billions of dollars

00:43:40.000 of taxpayers' money at subsidizing useless electric vehicle plants in Ontario,

00:43:47.100 and apparently not for the environment.

00:43:50.180 Just make work projects, really, as we've seen,

00:43:52.540 because then he slapped 100% tariff on electronic vehicles coming from China.

00:43:57.720 You know, not a lot of big government of China fans around the Western Standard

00:44:03.640 offices here,

00:44:04.360 but we do trade with them,

00:44:07.800 and we would expect very much,

00:44:11.080 everyone expected they were going to retaliate,

00:44:13.220 and so now they're now investigating what they call

00:44:16.660 the illegal dumping of Canadian canola into China.

00:44:21.080 Essentially, it's a prelude for them to respond with the tariffs against our canola,

00:44:24.820 which, I mean, of course,

00:44:27.560 to protect an Eastern industry,

00:44:29.380 which is already subsidized by Western tax dollars,

00:44:32.320 the West is going to pay the price.

00:44:33.640 Western Canadian canola farmers are going to pay the retaliatory trade price

00:44:38.080 for protecting these BS vehicles made in Ontario

00:44:41.620 that nobody wants to drive,

00:44:43.380 paid for by taxpayers.

00:44:44.600 Welcome to Canada, history repeats.

00:44:45.960 I mean, farmers used to have to pay

00:44:47.440 to get implements shipped from the East

00:44:49.620 because the tariffs stopped buying them from the United States.

00:44:52.420 Then they'd pay their taxes into the East.

00:44:54.100 Then they'd pay the shipping for those implements out here

00:44:57.000 and pay the shipping to send the crop to the East

00:44:59.040 so they could sell it and make the profit.

00:45:01.560 It's like the old national policy.

00:45:03.280 It doesn't change.

00:45:04.060 It doesn't change.

00:45:05.340 Unfortunately, we don't have time to jump into it,

00:45:07.720 but I just want to put it on the record

00:45:09.780 that our poor Western canola farmers

00:45:12.460 are going to get it hard, I think.

00:45:15.720 And it's all going to be...

00:45:17.220 Thankfully, if you're a Western Canadian canola farmer right now,

00:45:20.520 just know that your sacrifice is worth it

00:45:22.940 so that some liberal voter in Ontario

00:45:25.400 can work at their subsidized electronic vehicle plant

00:45:28.520 to make cars that nobody wants to drive.

00:45:32.200 So that's it for there.

00:45:34.580 Gentlemen, thank you for joining.

00:45:36.520 And thank all of you for joining us today.

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00:46:14.300 If the name Ted Byfield brings back fond memories,

00:46:16.880 well, we got a party coming up for you guys.

00:46:19.160 On September 25th, Toasting Ted is what it's called.

00:46:21.920 It's going to honor a great conservative

00:46:23.560 who published Alberta Report News Magazine.

00:46:26.340 It's going to be bagpipes, singing, live auction stakes,

00:46:29.260 speeches by Premier Smith, Preston Manning, Stephen Harper,

00:46:31.760 quite a lineup.

00:46:32.780 The Western Standard is the final incarnation

00:46:35.220 or the latest incarnation of Alberta Report

00:46:37.520 that Ted Byfield founded.

00:46:39.560 And I mean, he was a great Albertan.

00:46:41.500 He really made his mark on this province

00:46:43.140 and this evening of celebration for him

00:46:44.920 is really going to be outstanding.

00:46:45.840 You get there, toastingted.ca.

00:46:48.180 That's the website.

00:46:49.300 You can get your tickets.

00:46:50.220 This one's going to sell out.

00:46:51.320 I mean, again, if you want to see Smith, Manning, Harper,

00:46:53.700 all in one spot, one night, be sure to get there.

00:46:57.140 You can become a Western Standard member

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Western Standard - September 09, 2024

Jagmeet & Justin breakup

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