Western Standard - April 15, 2024


Jagmeet Singh Avoids Clarity on NDP's Position on Carbon Tax


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3 minutes

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Word count

730

Sentence count

61

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3

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In this episode, Singh and Singh respond to a question from Singh's own party on the need for a consumer carbon tax to fight climate change. They also discuss their carbon pricing plan and what they would like to see the government do to make carbon pricing more fair.

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00:00:00.000 Do you support a consumer carbon levy?
00:00:02.800 We absolutely need to fight the climate crisis, no question about it.
00:00:06.700 But what we're concerned about is that Pierre Polyev has absolutely no plan.
00:00:10.880 He thinks it's okay to dump toxic waste into rivers.
00:00:14.600 He wants big polluters to do whatever they want. 0.99
00:00:16.700 He wants no rules for big polluters. 0.99
00:00:18.480 That is a serious problem. I've heard that from Canadians. 1.00
00:00:20.800 I've also heard a serious concern that this Liberal government
00:00:24.100 seems to have no money for working-class people to buy a heat pump.
00:00:28.220 No money for them, but as billions of dollars in subsidies for oil and gas companies,
00:00:33.340 the Liberal plan is unfair.
00:00:34.920 That is my concern, and I continue to raise the concern that people are telling me
00:00:38.820 that they're concerned about.
00:00:39.940 Why is the Liberal plan unfair, and why the Conservatives are so irresponsible
00:00:44.960 to not even have a plan to tackle pollution?
00:00:47.500 Yes or no, do you support a consumer carbon levy? Yes or no?
00:00:51.380 Our position has not changed at all.
00:00:54.100 Our position has not changed.
00:00:55.360 What is your position?
00:00:56.040 Our position, I mean, you've seen our votes.
00:00:57.880 We're right now. What is your position?
00:01:00.500 We absolutely support a price on pollution.
00:01:02.700 We've always supported it.
00:01:03.660 For consumers.
00:01:04.580 We've always supported a price on pollution.
00:01:05.620 I'm just looking to clarify, sir.
00:01:07.120 Do you support a consumer carbon price?
00:01:09.160 I've said that. I've said it again and again, and you've seen our votes on this.
00:01:11.860 We absolutely support a price on pollution.
00:01:14.260 We have not changed our position on that.
00:01:16.000 We have not changed our position on that.
00:01:17.660 But you won't actually confirm what it is.
00:01:19.660 We have not changed our position.
00:01:20.860 I mean, you could look at our voting record.
00:01:22.060 We've been very clear we support a price on pollution.
00:01:25.340 But our concern, our concern, we have absolutely been very clear our position has not changed.
00:01:32.700 And so you can look at our voting record and our position is very clear.
00:01:35.840 But my concern is this, and I want to be very clear on this concern.
00:01:39.300 I want to spend the time that I have talking about my concern.
00:01:41.880 The Liberals say to working class people, we don't have money for you to buy heat pumps.
00:01:48.820 We don't have money to support you.
00:01:50.320 But we've got billions of dollars for oil and gas companies.
00:01:53.580 Workers tell me that is unfair, and that's what we pointed out.
00:01:56.700 So we said that very clearly.
00:01:58.940 And we've said again and again, we need to make sure we fight the climate crisis with everything we have.
00:02:04.780 But the Liberals are eroding that trust by not supporting working class people.
00:02:10.280 They are eroding that trust, but not saying clearly that whose side are we on?
00:02:15.500 The Liberals right now are making it seem like they're on the side of big polluters,
00:02:19.160 and they're not on the side of working class people.
00:02:21.960 How can this government justify billions of dollars in subsidies for oil and gas companies
00:02:27.880 and say no to working class people?
00:02:29.900 That is wrong, and I want to focus on that.
00:02:32.080 Our position on fighting the climate crisis has not changed.
00:02:34.780 We believe absolutely on a price on pollution.
00:02:37.220 But we also believe the plan has to be fair.
00:02:38.960 And right now the Liberals are not making a fair plan.
00:02:41.400 They're saying big polluters get bigger and bigger profits.
00:02:44.540 Working class people get nothing. 1.00
00:02:45.900 That is wrong.
00:02:49.120 How would you make the carbon pricing scheme more fair?
00:02:52.220 Well, in terms of what I want to see happen in terms of a plan in general,
00:02:55.960 these are the three values that we...
00:02:58.180 What would you do to make it more fair?
00:03:00.420 If you want to ask my plan, these are my concerns.
00:03:02.220 One is I'm concerned specifically with the fact that the government has billions of dollars for oil and gas companies
00:03:08.300 and says no to working class people.
00:03:09.940 That's important.
00:03:10.840 But specifically...
00:03:12.560 I'm going to answer the question very specifically.
00:03:14.480 I've been asked the question.
00:03:15.220 This is my final answer.
00:03:16.640 On the final piece on what our plan is,
00:03:20.040 we want to see a plan that makes the big polluters pay their fair share, 0.95
00:03:23.360 that's fair to workers, and that reduces our emissions.
00:03:26.080 Thank you very much.
00:03:26.560 Mr. Singh, you're not being clear.
00:03:29.820 A consumer carbon levy on gasoline.