Western Standard - Jan 5, 2020

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00:02:30.000 Hello, I'm Derek Fildebrandt. You're watching The Pipeline on January 5th, 2021. I'm joined

00:02:43.620 today by Cory Morgan, podcast editor and columnist with the Western Standard. Good day, Cory.

00:02:48.280 Good afternoon. I don't know if it's eight minutes into afternoon, I guess. Yeah.

00:02:55.680 Dave Naylor, news editor of the Western Standard. Good day, Dave.

00:02:59.280 G'day, Derek. Still morning for me out here in soggy Vancouver.

00:03:03.780 Indeed. Well, today we're picking up where we left off yesterday.

00:03:08.140 The great snowbird scandal of 2021, as we are dubbing it now, continues to rage.

00:03:17.340 There was a ministerial resignation yesterday.

00:03:20.180 Kenny fired his chief of staff and gave a small slap on the wrist to some of his

00:03:26.840 vacationing Tories despite the government's own lockdown. We're gonna

00:03:33.140 talk about the political follow-up of it. Have the heads that have been served up

00:03:37.340 and wrist slaps, are they enough to appease the anger of Albertans right

00:03:41.660 now? And what is gonna be the long-term fallout of this? We're gonna discuss it.

00:03:45.860 we're gonna discuss though I think very importantly did Jason can really not

00:03:51.860 know about this as he claims we've got a bit to say about it and we've got some

00:03:58.640 documents we're gonna share with you today and as well a Black Lives Matter

00:04:03.080 activist and candidate for City Council in Edmonton cheering the death of a

00:04:10.220 murdered Calgary police officer we'll we'll talk about that an exclusive story

00:04:14.960 from Dave Naylor at the Western Standard. So let's hop into it again with the great snowbird

00:04:21.400 scandal of 2021. We're jumping back in where we left off yesterday. Dave, Kenny accepting the

00:04:34.840 resignation of Tracy Allard from Cabinet, firing his chief of staff, Jamie Huckabay, and then giving

00:04:41.560 pretty minor slaps on the wrist to the other six UCP MLAs and then I think no

00:04:47.500 sanction at all towards the press secretaries Dave we've been put you've

00:04:51.960 been closely following the fallout of this is it looking like this is going to

00:04:56.560 be enough to satisfy the bloodlust of angry Albertans right now or do you

00:05:02.620 think there's more to come well I don't think it's anywhere near close enough to

00:05:07.180 satisfied the bloodlust. Derek, all the political columnists and all the major mainstream media say

00:05:13.800 it isn't. Not that they should be listened to, but, and certainly the phone calls and the emails

00:05:20.360 and text messages that I'm getting from Wild Rose supporters, they're just, they're just,

00:05:25.900 they're just still living. And, you know, now we're getting to the point in the story where

00:05:30.520 people are coming forward and saying, hey, did you know this person was there? And hey,

00:05:36.020 did you know that press secretary was was out of the province over here so these are all the leads

00:05:41.540 that we're we're following up as quickly as we can but uh still uh nowhere near the end of the story

00:05:47.780 and uh i think as you hinted at there derek the uh the question now becomes what did the premier

00:05:54.340 know and when did he know it indeed uh corey do you think uh i i mean perhaps this uh would have

00:06:02.980 gone down better if Kenny had made these actions when he held his now widely lamented press

00:06:11.180 conference January 1st. He acted instead yesterday, January 4th, when this scandal seems to have

00:06:18.700 gotten out of control. Do you think this is going to be enough or do you think it'll be pretty much

00:06:22.860 died down by this time next week? I honestly don't know. I mean, I don't know how much more

00:06:28.380 he can do. Well, we know things that people are calling for. I mean, some are calling for Kenny

00:06:31.700 to resign well it's not going to happen and the ndp is going to call for canada resign every week

00:06:35.700 over everything it doesn't really matter anyway um can he really kick six members totally out of

00:06:42.580 caucus i know he's kicked members out of caucus before and uh for what things that perhaps could

00:06:47.300 be considered lesser uh offenses than this but losing half a dozen and it's playing catch up

00:06:54.820 right like he's in a terrible position he's put himself into it uh friday he put out that conference

00:07:00.500 and did nothing but it also does tell me i i guess it's mixed either maybe it's a bit of both

00:07:05.300 he didn't realize just how bad this is which again shows some of the disconnect they have

00:07:10.500 with the mindset of grassroots and populist type of supporters and also he didn't he didn't know

00:07:17.700 how many guys were still out of the country and perhaps you shouldn't hold a conference until

00:07:20.940 you've had a head count on every one of them because that's part of what killed him too

00:07:24.500 he thought i could do this on a new year's day get it out put it to bed people will forget about it

00:07:28.800 but unfortunately over the next two days more of them got exposed which just poured gasoline on

00:07:34.140 the fire and then he was forced to do something by Monday what he'll be able to do though to put

00:07:39.640 it out is broken trust I don't think any more punishment is going to change it the only thing

00:07:44.740 you can hope for is one of two things one is something big and coming and pushing it down

00:07:48.700 the news cycle for him which is out of his control and the other thing is just time you've broken

00:07:54.080 trust and it's going to take time to regain it if you can. Yeah, and I think you're right. I'm not

00:08:05.020 sure that more heads will solve it at this point. And while people might say that they should all

00:08:10.240 be tossed, you can offer up the heads of maybe one out of caucus, maybe two, but it is tough

00:08:20.740 to fire uh seven or more uh members of your caucus uh and he didn't really know apparently

00:08:30.100 how many there were although i've not i think for the backbenchers they didn't know but uh

00:08:34.100 i have a pretty good feeling they knew how many members of cabinet were out of the country

00:08:38.020 uh and i'm not sure that the public does yet i have a feeling it was not just tracy allard even

00:08:42.900 though she's the one who's paid the price so far um but i think where this where this story is going

00:08:48.340 now is not just um what those guys did and kenny's reaction to it i think it's um jason kenny's

00:08:56.580 statements about what he knew and when he knew it um dave uh this is uh something you've had

00:09:04.820 some breaking stories on uh you know uh you've been working i think 14 hour days in our media

00:09:10.580 sweatshop here uh why don't you tell us where we're at with the with the memo and some of the

00:09:17.540 revelations we've had uh about when he knew and when he knew it yeah derek what happens when a

00:09:24.260 cabinet minister goes on holiday is they fill in a basically a vacation request form which they give

00:09:30.420 to their chief of staff uh the cabinet minister's chief of staff then gives it to the premier's

00:09:37.380 office and it's not just a case of okay minister a's going on holiday they have to figure out

00:09:43.060 who's going to cover for minister a so they have to give minister a's responsibility to to minister

00:09:49.220 x so it's not just a case of uh of rubber stamping now we've talked to a senior senior tory party

00:09:57.460 insider a former tory cabinet minister and a confidant of the premier jason kenney and he

00:10:04.900 says it's quote inconceivable unquote that the premier did not know that one of his cabinet

00:10:12.020 ministers uh you know had been gone for a month um and he points out the fact that you know kenny

00:10:19.380 is such a hands-on guy a hands-on command and control as he put it very much like stephen harper

00:10:26.020 used to be with his prime minister's office he just points out the fact that there's no way kenny

00:10:32.020 didn't know when we published this exclusive story last night on the western standard uh derek we got

00:10:37.860 an email from the premier's office within five minutes of it going up when's the last time we

00:10:42.820 did that holy cow we can't even get a question in at one of their press conferences but uh

00:10:47.940 you know on the bright side it shows they're reading us uh and quite closely and that uh that

00:10:53.300 press conference was just a reaffirmation saying look you know that that memo came into uh the

00:10:59.300 premier's office but there's no way it got to uh kenny's hands the premier did not see it well

00:11:05.060 well let's kind of go into that for a second here we've got uh so we've got this memo uh we're gonna

00:11:14.020 we're gonna pull it up here in a second um but we've got this memo from tracy owler the

00:11:20.100 now former minister to jason kenney and uh you can all see it here uh reads please be advised

00:11:26.900 that i will be on personal time december 29th 2020 until january uh 10th 2021 inclusive rick

00:11:33.300 McIver will take over yada yada yada uh that's from Tracy Allard you can see in the upper left

00:11:39.940 to the Honorable Jason Kenney Premier and copying Jamie Huckabee Chief of Staff um as well as Rick

00:11:47.540 McIver and the Chief of Staff to Allard uh now uh as uh you've said Dave uh once we put that up

00:11:57.540 the um uh a spokesman for jason kenney says oh he didn't read it

00:12:02.500 uh now let's just put this in context tracy allard was the chairwoman of the

00:12:09.300 government's coveted 19 emergency response committee

00:12:12.180 these which is the nexus of the entire government right now this is the most

00:12:16.260 important cabinet committee around and jason kenny is a well-known

00:12:20.660 workaholic even his critics admit that he's a hard worker

00:12:24.100 and he is a control freak he has his hands on everything he knows what every minister is doing

00:12:29.380 and we are supposed to believe that the premier of alberta during a lockdown did not read a memo

00:12:36.260 from the chair uh the chair of the coca 19 emergency response committee informing him

00:12:41.860 that she would be away we are supposed to believe uh that uh he didn't read this

00:12:49.220 I mean, we weren't in the room. So I suppose it is theoretically possible.

00:12:59.820 Corey, give us the over-under on what are the chances are that Jason Kitty did not really read

00:13:05.520 this? I think it's extremely unlikely that he didn't read it. I mean, to give a little bit of

00:13:12.780 benefit of the doubt, he may have read it though and thought, okay, she's going to visit her sister

00:13:18.360 in Saskatchewan or Edmonton or something and took the presumption that she'd be smart enough not to

00:13:25.460 leave the country at a time like this. I mean, there is a little bit of that wondering, but again,

00:13:29.580 he's on top. You have to wear it. So you can't apparently assume that your caucus is all smart

00:13:36.420 enough not to step into this mire because they did. And they shouldn't have had to have been

00:13:41.900 instructed not to but but the mess is all now on his lap he may have read it it's i'm sure he

00:13:48.700 probably did read it i i'll just try to be a little kind of think maybe he just assumed though

00:13:52.680 that it meant she was taking a break and not that she'd be leaving the country

00:13:55.400 uh yeah weight of the vaccine rollout and she is the minister in charge of it now uh what he said

00:14:05.980 is when he held his uh you know uh widely panned uh press conference of january 1st

00:14:13.100 uh he said i well we've got the actual wording here um well we've got it elsewhere uh but he

00:14:19.500 said i became aware of this on the 29th of december this memo is dated the 13th of december

00:14:26.860 uh that's a fair bit of time and he also said during that press conference we have had virtual

00:14:32.940 cabinet meetings so she's been and he meant to say oh she's been working it's

00:14:36.600 not like she wasn't actually doing anything while she was on vacation she's

00:14:40.180 been working we had virtual cabinet meetings so you had these long virtual

00:14:45.840 cabinet meetings and it never came up that she was about two hemispheres over

00:14:51.260 that is increasingly difficult to believe and again it's not just the

00:14:56.920 actions of the scandal here it's the cover-up of it it's what art is he

00:15:01.740 telling the truth of it to trying to extract himself from any blame um maybe you you've got

00:15:07.980 to wonder what allard was using as a green screen right maybe she's got a snowbound grand prairie on

00:15:14.380 it as opposed to her her lying on the beach but i i think you know kenny's blundered this from the

00:15:20.060 beginning i think cory hinted about that that friday performance was a fiasco and he's now

00:15:26.220 what in today four or five of radio silence so he's getting some bad advice i'm not sure who's

00:15:32.380 left to give him advice as he's you know he fired his chief of staff but he's getting some bad advice

00:15:37.820 and now you know it's the worst thing you can do because then you got the media screwing around for

00:15:43.260 stories well let's talk about the chief of staff more um i mean i suppose it's theoretically

00:15:50.460 possible not to know where a minister is even if you're on conference calls with her and she is

00:15:55.340 now the essentially the most important minister in the government right now

00:15:58.700 chairing the COVID-19 emergency response committee. Let's grant them that but

00:16:03.980 let's talk about the chief of staff. Now when I was in politics I had a chief of

00:16:08.060 staff and I can tell you I know if they're taking a piss. I know where they

00:16:12.160 are at all times. There is no one more important in your organization and I was

00:16:16.900 leading a pretty small political party. I was not the premier of Alberta so my

00:16:21.180 chief of staff as important as that person was there's a hell of a lot less

00:16:24.960 important than the chief of staff to the premier of a province, a major province.

00:16:28.840 You know where your chief of staff is at all times. Now Jason Kenney said I guess

00:16:37.200 is trying to have us believe that he did not know where his chief of staff was

00:16:41.820 for weeks on end while they were overseas during one of the biggest

00:16:48.600 crises a government can face. Well, Dave, you spoke to someone last night who has something

00:17:00.480 to say about that. They spoke on condition of anonymity. Why don't you run us through

00:17:04.940 what the likelihood is that Jason Kenney was telling the truth about not knowing where

00:17:09.580 his chief of staff was? Well, it's like you say, the chief of staff is your right arm.

00:17:16.640 right on with the cabinet minister. He's the one that gets him to all the appointments. He's the

00:17:20.520 one that tells him where he's going. He's the one that tells him who he's speaking to. You know,

00:17:25.160 he's the one that buttons up his tie and makes sure he's looking okay before he goes to, you

00:17:31.300 know, before he goes in front of the press. So, you know, to claim that he didn't know his chief

00:17:37.180 of staff was in the United Kingdom, as our force says, is inconceivable. Well, let's get into

00:17:45.840 that a bit more here um so you spoke to a senior uh he was a former senior minister uh conservative

00:17:53.200 minister and he is a close confidant of jason kenney we can tell you people this is not thomas

00:17:58.080 lukasik uh but this uh former minister and close confidant of jason kenny spoke on condition of

00:18:06.640 anonymity um he says uh when you go away every minister fills out a form the form goes to the

00:18:13.840 the Minister's Chief of Staff, then the Premier. It is, quote, inconceivable that Kenny wouldn't

00:18:20.100 know Allard was traveling. Well, when people close to you start speaking to the media,

00:18:28.400 that's probably a good reason to be worried. Corey, is this a sign that the wheels might

00:18:35.600 be falling off a bit here? Well, I imagine there's a lot of turmoil going on inside right now. I

00:18:42.020 mean everybody's scrambling they want to save their own butts uh they're they're pointing fingers

00:18:47.340 uh you know but again i i think what it all comes down to i mean kenny is a a smart guy you know

00:18:55.180 nobody could deny that it shows that that disconnect i mean with the chief of staff i

00:19:00.620 don't recall kenny ever directly said he didn't know about where uh huckabay was i think he's

00:19:06.060 been kind of silent on that one because it's just too much to believe that is as you said his right

00:19:10.740 man is uh has been gone you know out off the continent and he wouldn't know about it what it

00:19:16.100 does say though is they really didn't realize uh just how profoundly bad these actions were they

00:19:23.440 didn't realize how it was going to resonate with albertans uh that's a sign of the the elitism

00:19:29.060 that you get stuck with you know as they say dome disease or ottawa syndrome for the federal ones

00:19:33.860 and things like that but they they they don't even understand how they've offended everybody yet now

00:19:39.000 that it's really blowing up in their face, they're getting a really good understanding of it.

00:19:43.260 But I think the reason they didn't try to cover that earlier is because they didn't even realize

00:19:47.880 they were doing something wrong. And that's kind of a whole different level of disturbing.

00:19:51.700 Now, what's making it worse, Derek, at this moment is the federal liberals, right? Everybody's

00:19:56.840 bogeyman in the West. And their MPs who have admitted that they traveled are voluntarily

00:20:03.580 stepping down. Even before it was made public, they're coming forward and saying,

00:20:07.560 I visited this sick grandmother I visited this person and I'm stepping down from my role as

00:20:13.440 parliamentary secretary to this that and the other we're doing it voluntarily far worse less terrible

00:20:21.900 circumstances resignations were unnecessary I mean one went to a memorial service or funeral

00:20:29.760 in Washington State another one went to see a dying relative in Delaware I am not terribly

00:20:36.420 outraged about that uh and the thing is they admitted it voluntarily and they took their their

00:20:42.900 job cuts voluntarily the prime minister came out this morning first time he's been seen in ages

00:20:48.260 outside rito cottage and he scolded scolded uh politicians you shouldn't be traveling at this

00:20:53.460 time of year uh you know so when the liberals look smarter than the ucp does it's a big public

00:20:59.140 relations image uh this uh this confidence of uh premier kenny's last night described it as

00:21:05.540 like the dying days of uh allison redford's uh premiership so uh you know i'm not sure if kenny's

00:21:11.780 gone into the bunker uh uh yet beneath the dome but uh it's it's a pretty bleak for him at the

00:21:18.740 moment and unlike cory i really don't know what he does to try and get out of it indeed okay well uh

00:21:26.340 let's move on uh dave you're just a bloody machine um breaking news stories um the latest

00:21:34.580 is a black lives matter activist and defund the police guy and candidate for edmonton city council

00:21:40.980 uh why don't you tell us uh what's what's going on with this oh derek reporters aren't supposed

00:21:47.460 to get personally involved in their stories but i i just found this disgusting it made me uh

00:21:52.900 made me sick to my stomach um this is a gentleman called abdul hakim dolla he's a edmonton uh

00:22:02.740 community activist he calls himself a community activist and he's uh he's a politician up there

00:22:08.660 he tried to run for the ndp in the last federal election but uh didn't make it through the

00:22:15.060 nomination uh process he's now uh said he's running in ward seven in the election and he

00:22:22.340 celebrated the death today of calgary police sergeant andrew harnett who was killed in that

00:22:27.540 horrible horrible hit and run and he was responding to a tweet about Prime

00:22:33.460 Minister Trudeau not you know publicly acknowledging the fact that Harden had

00:22:39.420 fallen in the line of duty which the the Prime Minister has done on you know

00:22:43.740 every time a soldier or usually another police officer does fall in the line of

00:22:48.600 duty and Dalal came out and answered that tweet by saying quote cuz he was a

00:22:56.820 a corrupted police officer, unquote.

00:23:00.100 And then he followed it up with five smiley emojos.

00:23:05.360 Just, you know, no matter what side of the argument you're on,

00:23:09.500 there's no excuse for that.

00:23:12.500 This is a gentleman who has repeatedly said

00:23:15.820 he will defund the Edmonton Police Service

00:23:18.640 if he gets elected and has been quoted several times

00:23:21.780 on Black Lives Matter social media articles

00:23:26.260 in edmonton and uh i debated whether myself i mean you know this guy's certainly on the fringe

00:23:32.020 derek i debated with myself whether or not to write the story but within a couple minutes of

00:23:37.700 writing it i heard from two police officers and one edmonton politician who basically said you

00:23:42.980 know thanks for exposing this guy we need to know what kind of people are running for office so

00:23:49.540 even the black lives matter people will not be happy about this uh focusing a spotlight on them

00:23:56.820 Corey, how do you think the whole BLM defund the police crowd will have to respond to this?

00:24:03.420 I don't know. To be honest, if you look at their history, this is typical of them. This is not, 0.84

00:24:08.740 like I'm tired of people treating the group of extremists with kid gloves. There are a lot of

00:24:14.120 quotes, extremism, hatred, promotion of violence that have come from Black Lives Matter for years.

00:24:21.380 And it does hit the news a little bit. It's just in this case, it's much closer to home. And I

00:24:25.820 just so vile as to dance on the grave of an officer who's recently died in the line of duty

00:24:33.100 i i don't think they'll condemn them they might just distance themselves a little from this guy

00:24:37.820 but this isn't new out of these people and and uh i should watch the these people statement uh

00:24:43.500 the the extreme activist element uh and uh uh it's just sickening i'm very happy dave called

00:24:53.020 them out and i i think i want to write on this further because black lives matter i mean people

00:24:58.220 are concerned there's real issues there's certainly some police cultural issues to work on

00:25:03.180 uh when people marched on mass when things were first happening a lot of moderate people around

00:25:07.740 the streets with concerns but when the mainstream and the moderate people move aside that extreme

00:25:13.580 element of blm leadership remains and and it's just over and over again and again these guys

00:25:19.420 have to be called out and in my view disbanded or at least sidelined as an extremist band of nut

00:25:24.860 cases and if somebody wants to put together a rational police reform type of group or or

00:25:31.260 addressing systemic racism assuming it is there it's time for a new one because blm is is just

00:25:36.700 garbage yeah i want to point out derek that at this very second thousands of calgarians are lining

00:25:43.100 the route along memorial drive and into forest lawn for a funeral not a funeral procession but

00:25:48.300 but the procession of Sergeant Harnett's body

00:25:51.260 from the medical examiner's office

00:25:52.840 to the funeral home in Forest Lawn.

00:25:56.240 This has hit a chord of sadness in Calgary.

00:25:59.340 It's the first police officer to die

00:26:00.820 in the line of duty for 20 years.

00:26:03.960 And this, if he was trying to make a point,

00:26:07.400 it certainly backfired in his face, I think.

00:26:10.460 Yeah, I think that's fair to say.

00:26:13.920 You know, it really is sad.

00:26:15.920 the BLM defund the police movement I guess those two movements have kind of

00:26:22.340 merged into one more or less it's unfortunate because it takes away from

00:26:28.080 the need for real real police reform you know we've seen video of absolute

00:26:34.060 goons of police officers in Gatineau violently forcing their way into a home

00:26:39.500 without a warrant as far as we know in Gatineau Quebec and violently dragging

00:26:45.320 man out because he was one of six people having supper on new year's eve uh absolute goonery

00:26:52.520 uh now these cops are acting under the orders of the politicians and the politicians are

00:26:56.760 ultimately responsible but uh there is you know we do have a problem with uh with police uh you

00:27:03.320 know we saw the two um keystone cops in calgary uh failed miserably to take a man down for playing 0.68

00:27:10.840 hockey uh threatened to fucking tase him uh the absolute gong show of that we do have a problem

00:27:18.840 with some adrenaline junkie cops going around uh demanding people respect their authority and uh

00:27:25.880 there is a need for reform uh and police to know that uh it's their job to keep the peace not to

00:27:31.960 uh enforce uh government proclamations uh so there's a need for this uh but it gets really

00:27:39.720 hard to advocate reasonable police reform when uh when we've got these people coming out screaming

00:27:45.800 defund the police and the most extreme elements of them uh not all of them i think it's fair to

00:27:51.000 say but the more extreme elements of them cheering the murder of police officers so

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00:30:24.980 some uh important information on how albertans are really feeling right now uh but with that

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00:30:35.060 to dave and corey for your contributions today thank you very much hey this was fun derek if

00:30:40.340 the news continues we should do it again tomorrow and we just might okay thank you all very much

00:30:48.420 uh stay stay safe and have a good vacation

Western Standard - January 06, 2021

Jan 5, 2020

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