Western Standard - July 31, 2025


Jessica Yaniv has great genes


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Western Standard Opinion Editor Nigel Hannaford and Senior Columnist Cory Morgan join me on The Pipeline to talk about the latest in Canadian politics, including a woman who was sentenced to eight years in prison for her part in the murder of a Jewish woman, and a man who was given seven years in jail for his part in a plan to rape a teenage girl.

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00:00:00.000 Good day, today is July 30th, 2025.
00:00:28.820 I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.
00:00:33.720 I'm joined by my usual good crew here, Western Standard opinion editor Nigel Hannaford's
00:00:42.300 second last time on the show as an official, as opinion editor, looking forward to a well-deserved
00:00:49.360 second retirement.
00:00:51.140 But yeah, I guess this is your second last time.
00:00:53.960 We will have you back, obviously, but in your capacity as opinion editor, puttering around
00:00:58.320 the office doing your thing yeah buttering is what i do my pick up this rearranging yeah yeah i'll be
00:01:04.980 back okay uh and western standard senior alberta columnist cory morgan always a pleasure to be a
00:01:10.740 fixture here for a while yet see like you're not an employee anymore but you're here all the time
00:01:16.220 still puttering around yeah puttering less puttering i'm learning how to putter from the
00:01:19.700 bastard yeah uh erica berute's is not with us she'll uh probably be back next week but we've 0.51
00:01:27.420 got a great sub in for her today we've got elise mills a conservative strategist from uh beautiful 1.00
00:01:36.020 vancouver although she's i won't disclose your location in case that's a secret but uh somewhere
00:01:40.600 else uh on uh beautiful vancouver island with uh much seafood thank you so much for having me
00:01:48.780 derek uh this is this is going to be a lot of fun today i was really looking forward to it this
00:01:53.780 morning i'm looking forward to it because we've got we've got so many great puns for our uh our
00:01:59.600 our headlines today uh except for the one i'll go through first i'll get to it later uh whose
00:02:04.180 referendum is it anyway yeah that that's our weakest that's our that's a weakest of them um
00:02:09.320 but uh dueling petitions to have referendums won by former deputy premier to allison redford
00:02:17.780 Thomas Lukaschuk
00:02:20.080 who
00:02:21.320 is trying to start a petition
00:02:24.340 to keep Alberta in Canada.
00:02:26.640 I guess it's just a weird way of phrasing it.
00:02:29.940 And then
00:02:30.840 a referendum
00:02:32.380 for Alberta to declare independence
00:02:34.580 and Alberta's elections
00:02:36.280 authority, very strangely deciding
00:02:38.340 they have the authority to send it to the courts
00:02:40.440 to decide if we should be allowed to even have a referendum.
00:02:43.280 Quebec held it twice. I don't know why
00:02:44.340 we wouldn't be allowed to and we're actually proposing
00:02:46.500 to have a very clear question, unlike Quebec has ever had.
00:02:49.020 So, that's an odd one.
00:02:50.880 Tamara lynched the 1.00
00:02:52.420 crown after having found her
00:02:54.360 guilty of the heinous crime
00:02:55.900 of mischief.
00:02:58.880 Something pretty much anyone
00:03:00.220 under the age of 18 has committed at least
00:03:02.260 a dozen times.
00:03:04.600 Are seeking
00:03:05.560 seven years for her, and
00:03:08.040 Barber, I think they're going for eight.
00:03:11.800 That's
00:03:12.280 curious, considering
00:03:13.740 a guy who tried to
00:03:16.180 blow up uh synagogues and kill as many jews as possible got one day one day um we've got house 0.98
00:03:25.400 arrest too so that's pretty uh two months of it get house arrest yeah um and then rapists uh who
00:03:31.880 are let off with essentially nothing so that it won't get in the way of their immigration
00:03:35.700 application uh so yeah very good stuff derek that would also be pedophiles yeah that would also be
00:03:42.760 foreign national pedophile. 0.97
00:03:45.180 It wasn't just that. Yeah, he was a pedo.
00:03:46.900 Yeah. So he got
00:03:49.040 a sentence roughly analogous
00:03:51.100 to Jeffrey Epstein. It's the first time
00:03:52.660 behind bars.
00:03:56.040 And he's a foreign national.
00:03:59.080 And he's, well, yeah, that was the whole idea.
00:04:00.840 We had to make sure that didn't get in the way of his
00:04:02.780 immigration status because clearly
00:04:04.340 the process is not total, complete bullshit. 0.60
00:04:08.020 Foiked off.
00:04:09.460 Foiked a Christian 1.00
00:04:11.100 conservative american music act everyone's already heard about that uh how the federal government and
00:04:17.600 municipal governments across canada have got out of their way to ban him from performing uh city
00:04:24.400 of montreal finding a church for letting him play christian music inside of a church on church
00:04:29.380 property uh yeah that's not that's not fishy at all um we're gonna talk about that and also some
00:04:35.640 of the more the context around it how city of montreal doesn't do anything about mass muslim
00:04:40.380 prayers in the streets blocking traffic without permits um how genuinely hateful musical acts
00:04:48.320 are scheduled to come to canada of ones who recently played in the uk um in ireland who
00:04:53.960 don't seem to have any trouble getting government permits to play as i actually don't think they
00:04:59.080 should even if they are pretty hateful uh you know let people decide that non-governments
00:05:04.520 But we're going to start off with the advertising campaign that's got everyone talking, very racist.
00:05:14.260 Jessica Yanif has great genes.
00:05:17.280 Jessica Yanif, many of you will recall, I'm glad we have a Vancouverite on the panel today.
00:05:22.660 Jessica Yanef is the very beautiful woman who took some, I think, Vietnamese ladies to human rights commissions or tribunals for the right to force them to wax her balls. 1.00
00:05:39.880 She did ultimately lose.
00:05:42.400 She. 0.93
00:05:44.080 But she's in the news again.
00:05:45.660 She took some beauty pageant in Ontario to a Human Rights Commission because they denied him the right to participate in this woman's beauty pageant. 0.99
00:05:58.180 The beauty pageant said, this pageant is for, I guess they probably have broadly two categories.
00:06:05.680 One, you must be a woman. 1.00
00:06:07.500 And two, you must be arguably beautiful.
00:06:11.040 you know beauty might be in the eyes of the beholder but sometimes you can draw a pretty
00:06:18.040 freaking clear line i think it's pretty obvious uh but you know canadian courts i don't have a
00:06:24.800 respect for them they get a they do a lot of dumb shit but uh you know uh maybe it's small
00:06:32.520 sign of the times that we're returning to uh a little bit of normalcy that
00:06:37.420 sanity is perhaps returning to things that, because I would imagine, actually it's not even
00:06:42.160 a court, it's Human Rights Commission. These are the worst of the worst. I'm actually a bit surprised
00:06:47.400 the Human Rights Commission ruled that this ugly, particularly ugly man, is not entitled, in fact,
00:06:55.380 to participate in a woman's beauty pageant. And there's no appeal except on process, which I'm
00:07:00.780 sure they follow scrupulously. Yeah, you know, every now and then you get surprised, and generally
00:07:05.840 speaking i've not been a big fan of human rights questions but this one they got it right so uh 1.00
00:07:11.360 good for them but it's this whole uh war on beauty i mean maybe you mean to get to this later but the
00:07:17.600 reaction from the left on that that whole advertising campaign from american eagle
00:07:24.880 we're going to transition we're going to transition to that okay well i'll save my thoughts for that
00:07:28.320 If I can speak to Jessica's illustrious career as an agitator, potster, I think the process that that person has is, or the objective is always to weaken our society, weaken our values, weaken what is truthful and trade it out for what is not fact.
00:07:56.580 If I am correct, I believe that Jessica has had not one, not two, not three, but four Human Rights Commission complaints or what went forward to the Human Rights complaints.
00:08:10.240 And if I'm not mistaken, our colleague Ezra Levent wrote a great book called Shakedown.
00:08:16.320 It's about a decade or so old, and it talks about the Human Rights Commission and specifically the gamesmanship that went on with certain groups in Vancouver.
00:08:25.180 and how that commission has had its own illustrious career
00:08:30.140 of destroying people's lives.
00:08:32.480 It's unfortunate because, as we've just said off the top, Derek,
00:08:36.180 there are all these horrible issues coming forward
00:08:38.760 regarding women and girls' safety,
00:08:41.260 paying for child rape, pedophilia.
00:08:44.740 They're not getting the sentences.
00:08:46.340 There's a turnstile, especially in Vancouver.
00:08:49.300 Women are being attacked on a pretty regular basis in Vancouver.
00:08:53.280 I can't speak to other parts of the country, but I can tell you I've never felt less safe.
00:08:58.880 And knowing that no matter what the police commissions are saying, no matter what those leaderships are demanding of the federal government,
00:09:08.300 including my own attorney general in British Columbia, has demanded that the tomfoolery around, you know,
00:09:15.700 pedophilia and women's rights and sort of the reduction of women's rights must be addressed
00:09:22.200 immediately by the Justice Minister as soon as possible. But getting back to Jessica,
00:09:29.040 this is not a person that has anything else going on other than looking to make money off of these,
00:09:37.780 I would say, quite insidious and also ludicrous claims that she's trying or they are trying
00:09:45.640 to make um and i would say it's a great offense to us women that have that to to feminism to women 1.00
00:09:53.240 that are dealing with serious problems that i've just outlined um and we need to be talking about
00:09:58.920 the respect of women in this country um but jessica has quite a career and i would suggest that our 0.59
00:10:05.240 you know our viewers today take a pick up ezra levent's book shakedown it's one of the best
00:10:10.040 books i've read around the human rights commission and the egregious uh behaviors that happened there
00:10:16.100 but also i think it's important people get really tuned in to what people like jessica are doing
00:10:20.760 uh to this country and the waste of time in our justice system so actually uh that book shaked
00:10:26.480 down by ezra that that was from ezra's time as publisher of the western standard uh in his day
00:10:32.420 when the standard was a print magazine and coming from uh the decision of ezra and the standard at
00:10:39.800 the time to run the famous or infamous danish muhammad cartoons which were the biggest story
00:10:46.340 in the world at that time when uh radical islamists were lynching people burning down
00:10:52.960 buildings rioting doing all sorts of stuff and uh attempt to enforce their sense of blasphemy
00:10:59.200 on the west saying you're not allowed to have cartoons of the prophet muhammad uh everyone
00:11:03.420 was talking about it writing about it reporting on it but no one in canada had actually published
00:11:08.420 well, what are the cartoons that these people are so angry about?
00:11:10.600 Are they really that offensive?
00:11:11.860 And he published them, and they're...
00:11:14.880 If I was a Muslim, I'm like...
00:11:17.340 You know, Derek, it's quite...
00:11:17.920 Maybe I would find them mildly offensive.
00:11:20.720 And that's what it was about.
00:11:21.740 And so it was a radical Muslims who went after the Western Standard at that time. 0.91
00:11:25.420 But then the shakedown was about the whole broader grievance and complaint industry
00:11:29.480 of these just totally ludicrous attempts by people
00:11:35.660 to use the Human Rights Commissions and tribunals
00:11:38.580 to shake down businesses, churches, et cetera,
00:11:42.020 for personal profit and no risk to themselves.
00:11:46.200 And shake them out of their charter rights and freedoms
00:11:49.020 and religious freedoms.
00:11:50.360 And if you look back at that time,
00:11:52.040 I think the three of us or the four of us would agree
00:11:54.020 that the foreshadowing of the Western standards fight there,
00:11:57.380 if you look to where we are today,
00:11:59.040 to what was happening then,
00:12:00.080 we should have taken it much more seriously.
00:12:03.660 Yeah.
00:12:03.740 Yeah. And the Human Rights Commissions essentially are applying the charter. The charter should only apply to government institutions. It should not apply to private institutions, businesses, not-for-profits, etc. Unless you're essentially a quasi-government institution, no, government rules should not apply to you. The charter applies to restrained government, not individuals.
00:12:23.080 and the Human Rights Commission is essentially applying
00:12:25.560 the charter and government
00:12:27.000 regulations to private institutions
00:12:29.700 and that's just where it goes on. They just shouldn't
00:12:31.520 exist to begin with.
00:12:33.680 We're going to stay with this topic
00:12:35.460 because we're, you know, I'm very
00:12:37.580 proud of the pun on this headline
00:12:39.560 today.
00:12:41.800 Sidney Sweeney,
00:12:43.700 well-known
00:12:45.520 national socialist,
00:12:48.360 doing something very controversial
00:12:51.580 posing in jeans as a beautiful woman
00:12:56.100 and being unashamed of being
00:12:59.480 a beautiful blonde woman. 1.00
00:13:02.380 The slogan of the campaign is
00:13:04.360 Sydney has great jeans.
00:13:07.960 It's a pun, obviously.
00:13:10.620 No one denies that.
00:13:13.040 But the left has just had a total
00:13:15.560 mental breakdown on this one.
00:13:18.760 They're a parody of themselves at this point.
00:13:21.580 they don't even have a minor point um is anyone really denying that uh Sidney Sweeney doesn't have
00:13:29.300 great genes Corey it's it's a bizarre part of their ideology where they really the crabs in
00:13:34.500 the bucket who have to tear down from the top under every circumstance and they took a little
00:13:38.980 thing and went too far I mean I think for example the Dove campaign where it was marketing to
00:13:42.940 regular women and saying you know that you can be having curves and body flaws but you're you're a 1.00
00:13:47.780 regular person. That's, that's who we want to serve. But the reality and what sells to
00:13:52.580 is people want to see the ones who won the genetic lottery. They do want to see the most beautiful
00:13:58.520 in models. They want to, when I watch the NFL, I want to see the freakishly athletic
00:14:03.120 men perform who I would never even be able to come close to because we just want to see the
00:14:09.120 top of the top, but it's not enough now to cater to normal people. They're trying to say it's,
00:14:15.580 it's unreasonable to celebrate the people who are exceptional whether it's in looks or or whatever
00:14:21.660 way it's a race to the bottom actually there's much more to be read into this with that rage
00:14:25.100 they're showing for her daring to say i got lucky i had good genes i'm more beautiful than your
00:14:30.600 average person that's just the way it goes and i'm selling clothing and uh their rage really
00:14:35.940 illustrates how insecure and messed up they are i like i i i i'm cautious to not say you know 0.57
00:14:43.800 every asshole with a tiktok account is representative of that side or this side it's
00:14:50.360 unfair when one side does that to another but there's a pretty broad trend in the online
00:14:55.640 outrage about this it's almost universally women who do not have great genes who are upset about 0.98
00:15:03.000 this people who did not like very much did not win the genetic lottery and i don't mean to be
00:15:08.440 mean and ad hominem but that's what this is but they have very nice personalities yes they seem
00:15:14.440 like such such wonderful people who can who could stand to be in the room of someone who just maybe
00:15:19.400 god you know a little luckier than them but uh you can talk about this at two levels you know
00:15:25.720 uh derek one is genes if you want to keep a fun thing going we can keep a fun thing going but
00:15:32.680 you know there is uh this this is wokeness raising his ugly head and notice it is the ugly head 0.81
00:15:40.600 wokeness is just the revenge of the second best upon the best that's where this comes from but
00:15:49.080 there's this further level to this and that is the whole war on beauty which the i don't want to get
00:15:54.680 serious about this but i'll so keep it short but look the left hates beauty beauty and truth go 1.00
00:16:01.560 together so whether you're looking at your architecture your your art music your art or
00:16:08.520 even creative writing they'll they keep bringing down the average and calling that good instead of
00:16:16.440 what is exceptional so there's a you know great good for sydney sweeney she probably made a lot
00:16:22.600 of money i hope people buy the jeans because it'll be a rebuke to the all the nut bars who 1.00
00:16:28.520 are complaining about it, but it's actually
00:16:30.520 symptomatic of something a little deeper in our society.
00:16:33.200 I think it is. I mean,
00:16:34.640 American Eagle stock is up something like
00:16:36.660 15 or 20%, like
00:16:38.060 from a frigate ad game. They get a lot of earned media
00:16:40.600 out of that. I mean, she is the anti 0.94
00:16:42.520 Dylan...
00:16:45.120 Dylan Mulvaney.
00:16:46.660 Mulvaney, dude.
00:16:47.820 Who crashed the stock and market
00:16:50.480 share of a legendary
00:16:52.600 Americana company.
00:16:54.740 She's taking this up 50 or 20%.
00:16:56.520 and it can't I don't think it's just because it's a good ad campaign which it is it's because I
00:17:04.620 I think the market as I'm looking at it the market I think is pricing in now that uh American 0.99
00:17:11.460 Eagles onto something that America like like my favorite of those ads is the one where she's got 0.99
00:17:17.060 like uh like a GT Mustang Cobra like just like my altar it happens to also be my ultimate all-time
00:17:24.900 dream car. Like, I'm a billionaire. That's
00:17:26.700 the first thing I'm buying.
00:17:29.620 But, you know, it's just
00:17:30.640 Americana. Hot, blonde
00:17:32.940 chick, wiping grease 1.00
00:17:35.040 off onto the butt of her jeans,
00:17:37.120 gets in a Mustang. You're gonna need a
00:17:38.860 break for a minute there.
00:17:40.940 You know, but it's
00:17:42.720 Americana. I don't think Americans, 1.00
00:17:45.060 I don't think people in general
00:17:46.820 ever stop liking this stuff. We were
00:17:48.900 just told for a decade or so that
00:17:50.860 this is no longer appropriate.
00:17:52.780 This is no longer in
00:17:54.140 uh you're shallow if you like muscle cars and hot women and an american eagle just grabbed it right 1.00
00:18:02.220 back so i i think it's emblematic of the changing times wook is dead it sort of tells you something
00:18:07.660 that she got into a mustang and not a prius yes exactly yeah i mean oddly enough i guess if you
00:18:14.640 were trying to make this a nasty dog whistle you would have had to make it a volkswagen
00:18:19.280 I was gonna say a Tesla
00:18:21.700 yeah I love the people
00:18:24.040 wearing Adidas
00:18:24.700 I can't support Tesla because it's
00:18:27.360 you know it's founders
00:18:28.800 wearing Adidas
00:18:30.160 Volkswagen
00:18:30.740 okay
00:18:34.060 alright so
00:18:36.540 we'll keep it going on here
00:18:39.240 I guess kind of comes to
00:18:41.020 with kind of the woke topic
00:18:43.700 I pronounce it foiked
00:18:46.580 how do you pronounce
00:18:47.620 is it pronounced in English
00:18:49.100 You say foict?
00:18:52.680 F***.
00:18:53.720 We don't say that.
00:18:56.540 I say foict.
00:18:57.380 Anyway, however you pronounce it, Christian, conservative.
00:19:01.740 The CBC called it a mega band.
00:19:05.400 He probably does support Trump, I'm guessing.
00:19:08.220 I don't know if they consider themselves a mega band, though.
00:19:12.080 Coming to Canada, almost no one knew who these guys were.
00:19:16.800 I didn't know who they were.
00:19:17.880 I think I pulled vaguely around the office, I think one person in our newsroom at the Western Standard knew who these guys were.
00:19:24.880 They were not well known. Now they're well known right across the country from anyone watching the news as they've been just banned everywhere they're going,
00:19:33.040 except for the Alberta legislature grounds, which kind of makes me a bit proud.
00:19:36.960 Elise, why don't you just kind of I guess people people probably know about it, but maybe just kind of dig a bit into, you know,
00:19:43.380 what is it governments between the federal government municipalities have been
00:19:46.880 doing, uh, to try and keep, you know, these, uh,
00:19:50.360 these evil people with good genes out of Canada?
00:19:57.200 Um, well,
00:19:58.180 I'm sure you're very educated audience already knows the premise to the story,
00:20:03.120 the context behind it. Uh,
00:20:05.220 but for those who may have been on vacation somewhere, the,
00:20:09.660 The main issue here is that a Christian rocker who, as you said, Derek, really didn't have much of a following in Canada or pretty much anywhere else, he was sort of a secondary act, has suddenly burst onto stage as a very prominent, loud, pro-charter of rights American.
00:20:33.600 And he's making hand over fist money doing so.
00:20:36.940 And it's all thanks to all our levels of government, from municipalities to provincial legislatures to federal members of parliament, trying to manipulate the reasons as to why he should not be allowed in Canada, number one.
00:20:54.420 And number two, why he should not be allowed in their communities and provinces or within private settings like churches, which, by the way, are covered under religious freedoms, under the Religious Freedoms Act in Canada.
00:21:07.640 And I find it ironic that there is so little information or understanding, even by senators and non-elected senators in this country, around what freedom of expression really involves.
00:21:23.120 And to see our leadership, Derek, go out there and talk about how we don't have free speech, we don't have freedom around religious rights, I was absolutely dumbfounded.
00:21:35.320 Within freedom of expression is freedom of speech.
00:21:38.820 And there's a shield there, but it's not a muzzle.
00:21:42.200 And I was shocked to see certain ministers and certain members of parliament, even my own premier, David Eby, making very false comments about what Mr. Sean Krauss was doing, what he was singing about and why he had so many issues with him.
00:21:58.860 David Eby even remarked that this guy was singing hate songs, that he was, that lyrics were hateful towards the LGBTQI community, to trans people, to certain religions, that's simply not true.
00:22:16.700 I've done my fact checking on this.
00:22:18.300 There is no hate language.
00:22:21.620 Oh, yes, I know.
00:22:23.400 I just.
00:22:24.620 Very, very hateful of you.
00:22:25.880 I can't, I don't have enough time to go through all of it.
00:22:28.520 But I'll accept the complaint on Twitter.
00:22:32.220 Yeah, I know.
00:22:33.880 I know.
00:22:34.700 I am public enemy number one.
00:22:36.280 I'm a blonde white woman. 0.69
00:22:37.440 So here we go.
00:22:38.980 But I found it absolutely, I just want to bring in something else.
00:22:42.540 I think what this also highlighted, and I think these three gentlemen will agree with
00:22:45.620 me, is that what we saw reveal itself on social media were people that were purveyors of
00:22:52.520 disinformation and misinformation.
00:22:54.160 And I believe that there are groups out there that are financially benefiting from weakening our society, spreading misinformation, disinformation about what our charter and our constitution and our rights actually are.
00:23:09.300 And I will just say this, I particularly like Mr. John the Singer, but it doesn't mean that I don't think he should be here.
00:23:20.080 I also want to say to the politicians that were spreading false information that he had a criminal record.
00:23:24.900 Well, that's absolutely not true.
00:23:26.580 And senators and ministers and premiers should all understand the difference between a misdemeanor and a criminal charge.
00:23:33.580 I think he shot some test on his property or something.
00:23:36.960 I just couldn't stop.
00:23:40.980 No, he illegally fed to bring in wild turkeys.
00:23:44.880 He set bait traps.
00:23:47.420 And he had done it repeatedly.
00:23:50.080 and he shot some turkeys on his land gaming came in and said uh i am going to we are going to make
00:24:01.280 yeah and and because i believe consumed them if i'm not mistaken um and he did pay a significant
00:24:08.560 fine and i i will tell you that uh i'm a huge proponent of protection of wildlife um but that
00:24:14.680 doesn't mean i don't think he should be singing or standing on our soil or being able to be in a
00:24:18.820 church. And the other thing, Derek and guys, that absolutely disgusted me was that his concert in
00:24:23.840 Montreal was firebombed. And the police stood there, the Montreal police stood there and watched
00:24:29.480 these perpetrators, these violent criminals, endanger not only Sean's life, the singer's life,
00:24:35.620 but the young people that were in the concert. And I just do not understand how this country
00:24:42.280 has gotten to this point. There is an obvious violation of our laws, whereas there's obvious
00:24:46.840 violent crime and then their their main focus is trying to get this guy off stage and this went
00:24:52.100 back and forth for several hours before the concert immediately within sort of the early
00:24:57.820 part of the concert and then the fire bombing happened and they were still debating or whether
00:25:02.680 they could actually rip him off the stage i i don't know what country i'm sitting in anymore
00:25:07.780 because that to me is just i stomach churning to be honest if i was a parent of somebody that was
00:25:14.260 at that concert i would be looking at civil litigation at this point so i as i said i i
00:25:20.420 hadn't heard of this guy uh christian rock for the most part doesn't float my boat i don't think
00:25:25.360 there's been a good christian rock group since creed yeah you can make fun of me for liking
00:25:29.660 creed i creed was a bad hair was good stuff but like for the most part yeah it's a little too on
00:25:35.500 the nose it's not my thing but um it doesn't matter right it like uh so the excuses used like
00:25:44.120 they just denied they just denied them permits everywhere to begin with because they were they
00:25:47.660 were going to do just regular outdoor concerts that kind of thing it started with parks canada
00:25:52.040 somewhere out east uh coming from a cbc story the cbc story was playing into all the tropes you know
00:25:57.680 they're racist they're mega they're american you know like you know all these things and so the
00:26:02.640 federal government revoked it under the premise, and they were a little smarter in the city of
00:26:07.060 Montreal. They weren't on the premise that, oh, we can't guarantee safety. And well, you know,
00:26:10.700 it's your job to guarantee the safety of Canadians. And if, I mean, you know, there's a music act,
00:26:16.800 they're responsible for security within reasonable limits. But if it's not reasonable, you're facing
00:26:21.620 potential political violence from Antifa or something. That's the job of government then
00:26:26.740 to step in and provide additional security. You don't just cancel it. But we know that it wasn't
00:26:31.080 actually a security issue it was it was just an excuse for it most of the municipalities
00:26:35.660 that denied permits they they did under a similar guise city of montreal and quebec city they didn't
00:26:43.840 even pretend they just said this is not compatible with quebec values and these are you know right
00:26:49.660 wing christian people they shouldn't be allowed here um you know then you had uh creepy senator 0.89
00:26:56.260 Chris Wells. As soon as I said creepy
00:26:58.920 senator, you already know who I'm talking about.
00:27:02.980 He was saying, hate group shouldn't be
00:27:04.920 allowed in. From the guy who posted images
00:27:06.840 about
00:27:07.660 all Christians are Nazis, that kind of stuff
00:27:10.800 from this guy. A guy who's actually spread
00:27:12.540 legitimate hate.
00:27:16.000 The mask is off.
00:27:17.060 Same with David Eby. They shouldn't be allowed
00:27:18.820 here because we disagree with them.
00:27:20.860 I disagree with their politics. I disagree with their message.
00:27:23.380 Their faith. They shouldn't 0.98
00:27:24.960 be allowed here.
00:27:26.260 The left has dropped even the pretense, Corey, that, you know, of the language, say, that Parks Canada was easy.
00:27:33.260 They're just saying, we disagree with them.
00:27:35.040 They shouldn't be allowed here.
00:27:36.580 Yeah, and it's an indication of how ass-backwards our country is.
00:27:39.460 I mean, that should never even have come into question.
00:27:41.360 If we, you know, the charter keeps coming up lately, and there's really, it's deviated in its interpretation,
00:27:48.360 grossly away from what it was supposed to be, and being used now as a hammer to shut people down,
00:27:55.340 rather than to protect people's rights. The insecurity of the left, again, I used that term
00:28:00.580 earlier and it applies here. You're fearful of differing messages, not hate messages,
00:28:06.660 differing messages. And rather than debate them, rather than apply discourse or rather than just
00:28:11.540 leave it the hell alone, they insist on trying to shut it down. And it's a sickness and it's
00:28:16.860 problematic and people should be paying attention. You don't have to like this guy, but you better
00:28:21.320 understand how significant this swarm of government officials and ground activists,
00:28:26.840 everybody in between trying to shut him down, how dangerous this is if we allow this to be
00:28:30.760 unchecked like this. Yeah, I absolutely agree with you, Corey. I mean, I think there's a certain
00:28:35.960 amount of monkey see, monkey do going on here as well, because they do it in, well, can we be the
00:28:41.080 next one to cancel this guy and get our headlines in? I'm sure that happens. But you know, this
00:28:47.960 business of values you were saying that uh they were shut down initially in new brunswick because
00:28:54.280 of the security issue and that's certainly true but it was an excuse but they they also said
00:29:01.800 that this performance should not take place on parks canada property because it was inconsistent
00:29:08.520 with parks canada values so back to the internet we go and we look to see what parks canada
00:29:15.320 values are as they perceive them and it's about uh creating safe places and fostering diversity
00:29:24.280 that is biodiversity i could see but the hell does a park have to do with diversity well you know
00:29:30.440 you you've got to go onto the internet and see if you can make any sense of it because i
00:29:34.360 it just sounded like the the the classic way this liberal government works is that it has a set of
00:29:42.680 ideas about how people should act and think and do and through various means of legislation
00:29:51.320 selective granting to agencies they are trying to bring that about this this fellow walk into it
00:29:57.400 it's done nothing but good by the way i mean his whole file in the united states is suddenly
00:30:02.120 elevated because uh you know up there in a heathen county martyred absolutely and making money while
00:30:08.440 you do it it's as martyrdom goes it's the kind you want but uh it is unfortunately as cory says
00:30:14.600 it sets a terrible picture of canada well speaking of martyrs let's talk about the most serious of
00:30:19.720 them all the one who has been so wronged rachel gilmore uh rachel gilmore like it's been so hard
00:30:29.320 done by it's so oh uh she's uh again uh someone who's claimed to be censored herself and but i
00:30:37.960 don't actually think has been but uh just if she's nothing if not consistent consistently stupid 0.98
00:30:45.920 and consistently wrong and it's her god-given right believe you god or not it's her god-given
00:30:53.020 right to be both of those things every day of the week she takes full advantage of it but it's my 0.68
00:30:57.240 god-given duty to point it out and make fun
00:30:59.240 of it when I can't.
00:31:01.380 She, you know what, I'll just put
00:31:03.240 it to you, Elise. You had
00:31:05.160 a great little mix-up. Maybe
00:31:07.100 John will pull up
00:31:08.840 some of the screenshots of
00:31:10.740 what happened here. But she lost
00:31:12.980 her shit on Corey
00:31:14.820 and on you.
00:31:17.260 And then I'm gonna, I have an
00:31:18.940 invitation to make. Don't preempt me on that.
00:31:21.420 You know what I'm talking about.
00:31:23.460 But, Elise, why don't
00:31:25.100 you just kind of give a quick synopsis and we'll
00:31:27.000 throw a graphic up on the screen here okay well i were i into the conversation is being an avid
00:31:34.200 to do one of her i would say cheeky little versions of pun entry but she's no longer
00:31:39.880 a pundit in fact she's only being censored because she's not good enough to be out there 0.79
00:31:49.160 with the other pundits and commentators and i wouldn't even call it it's not censoring it's
00:31:54.680 just we're not interested no thank you um but everything has to turn into some sort of hate
00:32:00.600 issue or anti-feminist or you know with rachel gilmar there it can't just be that she's terrible 1.00
00:32:06.360 at what she does and she also doesn't i don't believe that she is very truthful and factful
00:32:10.760 and this is a great example of that largely ignored because um she's she's not worth my time
00:32:18.280 but when she starts spewing, I think, very dangerous misinformation, disinformation,
00:32:25.560 I'm going to lean on disinformation, and she manipulates what is very clear, which was very
00:32:31.000 clear in the Charter, to suit her own purposes. And we can only surmise what those goals and
00:32:37.560 objectives and purposes are. But I stepped forward because she had written a tweet. I believe it was
00:32:43.640 some sort of screen capture from um this show that she does in her living room called bubble pop 0.95
00:32:50.920 um and it was talking about uh what freedom of expression is that we don't have freedom
00:32:56.840 of speech that he has no the singer had no right to be there i mean it went on on on and it was
00:33:03.880 garbage um it was it was rooted in absolute falsehood so i stepped in and she proceeded 1.00
00:33:10.520 not to address my tweets because she was too cowardly to actually debate me in that
00:33:16.360 that conversation but then she sort of subtweeted me and i think corn was some of this
00:33:21.560 and so i just responded and said listen let gloves off let's have a debate i'm asking you
00:33:26.600 to debate me on the charter of rights i'm asking you to debate me on this particular issue and for
00:33:32.120 for you to stand by the, well, I would say the untruthful, if you believe that, then you
00:33:46.180 have a serious problem. And maybe in my language, and I wish I could say the same thing about
00:33:50.920 Ms. Gilmore. You can tell exactly where Ms. Gilmore's coming from in this conversation,
00:33:56.000 guys because the vernacular the style the tone of her response to me really said everything about
00:34:05.160 her lack of education on this matter and like i said to you derek it's really dangerous we need
00:34:10.100 to correct uh the damage that rachel gilmore is doing and others like her yeah uh so you know uh
00:34:18.340 soon after this i you know i got a chuckle actually we all we had a gut a gut bursting
00:34:23.420 laughter in the newsroom yesterday when we
00:34:25.540 saw this stuff
00:34:27.620 between you and her and
00:34:29.180 Corey going on.
00:34:31.320 I gave you a call.
00:34:33.200 What I tweeted is first
00:34:34.800 you tried to do a debate and I said,
00:34:37.200 the Western Standard would be happy to host.
00:34:40.000 To which she was just
00:34:41.320 no.
00:34:43.400 Okay, fine. Whatever.
00:34:46.820 But
00:34:47.340 I called you up.
00:34:49.300 I said, I think we should actually
00:34:50.740 do this.
00:34:51.880 so um this is an invitation right now it's gonna be uh in her mailbox uh john uh production here
00:34:59.060 make sure remind me to do it as soon as uh we're done recording here uh 2 p.m uh you tell me if
00:35:04.300 this time works 2 p.m mountain standard time thursday that'll be july 31st uh we're gonna
00:35:12.180 debate rachel gilmore uh we're having a debate between rachel gilmore and elise mills uh i don't
00:35:19.900 expect her she's already said no so i don't expect her to uh take us up on it but we're gonna send
00:35:25.780 her a zoom link uh or uh stream yard is what we use on the back end here we're gonna send her a 0.76
00:35:30.320 link and she can come in at any time she can come in just tell us to f off and and leave she can 0.99
00:35:35.840 stay for five seconds if she likes but uh we're gonna we're gonna host that debate and if not uh
00:35:41.560 we'll just uh we'll just talk about the episode we're gonna do that tomorrow we're gonna do it
00:35:45.540 live at 2 p.m mountain standard time maybe you should throw in a pair of american eagle jeans
00:35:52.580 maybe that'll the winner gets american eagle jeans i will be there with my copy okay uh now
00:36:03.140 i obviously i i have a favorite in the debate i am not neutral but i i i've moderated debates
00:36:10.820 before where i do have a favorite and i think i'm i'm able to be pretty neutral i know she has no
00:36:16.820 reason to trust me we don't know each other we're we're not buddies uh but i if if some reason she
00:36:24.000 shows up uh i i'm pretty confident in my ability to be fair i mostly just want to see the two of
00:36:30.300 you go at it and attempt to bring each other next to the screen i think that'd be good to be
00:36:34.880 And I have to say this, Derek, I did.
00:36:40.300 Well, she's got a very limited vocabulary, and so it's going to be my job to keep it up here because she has she does not have the ability to to challenge me to meaningful debate.
00:36:57.540 And I will say, if she's so worried about coming to our clubhouse, I would remind her that I did a decade on CBC across all the CBC affiliates, but most importantly, a decade with Rosie Barton as the, as at that time, one of the only real conservatives that were not a bobblehead of a conservative, but one that had an opinion and was forceful.
00:37:21.700 And I was treated to misogyny, threats of my, you know, my family, my life.
00:37:27.020 But I felt it was important to hold the line and hold that chair.
00:37:32.480 And I've spent well over a decade comfortable, but as a conservative, I do not give up my space.
00:37:40.000 I do not give up my seat.
00:37:41.720 And I would advise Ms. Gilmore to grow up and to watch her step.
00:37:46.600 And if she is so emboldened to make such outrageously incorrect claims like that, I would say if she really believes in them, I'm rolling out the pink carpet for you because, well, she seems to like the color pink in her bubble pot commentary.
00:38:02.580 But I agree with you, and I think it's going to be great.
00:38:05.940 Well, because she seems to think it's biologically possible, I think maybe she should grow a pair.
00:38:10.720 All right.
00:38:11.860 We're not going to have time to get to the referendum section.
00:38:13.960 We're going to be pretty tight today.
00:38:16.340 I hit that in my show earlier today anyways.
00:38:18.540 Oh, good, good.
00:38:20.500 But I want to talk about Freedom Convoy here.
00:38:25.200 Tamara Leach and Barber.
00:38:27.020 What's Barber's first name again?
00:38:28.080 Chris.
00:38:28.500 Chris Barber.
00:38:29.660 Chris Barber.
00:38:31.480 The Crown is trying to lynch them.
00:38:34.080 They want the death sentence.
00:38:35.120 Pretty much the death sentence.
00:38:36.280 Well, they want seven years for Tamara Leach, 1.00
00:38:39.300 and they want eight years for Chris Barber.
00:38:41.920 I mean, they were found guilty in their part of April.
00:38:44.960 April the 3rd, I think it was.
00:38:46.760 The sentencing hearing was last week.
00:38:51.620 And I think it's part of the Crown's strategy to make the process the punishment
00:38:56.780 that having had the sentencing hearing in July,
00:39:00.900 the actual sentencing will not be in July,
00:39:03.900 it will not be in August, it will not be in September.
00:39:06.300 It will, in fact, be October the 3rd,
00:39:09.740 just to spoil everybody's summer and make things that little bit worse.
00:39:14.540 Now, you know, I honestly doubt that they will get seven years because I truly believe that even Canadians who didn't care much for the convoy and the people driving the trucks and those in particular who were inconvenienced by the trucks being parked in a couple of blocks in the middle of Ottawa, that's really worth that many people.
00:39:42.160 Even those people, however, would think that seven years for mischief, which is basically kicking over dustbins in back alleys, is excessive.
00:39:53.240 And the court would not wish to bestow martyrdom on Tamara Leach and Chris Barber in that style.
00:40:01.600 They have got enough time behind bars already.
00:40:05.580 I think she's done in like 50 odd days already, before being convicted of anything.
00:40:10.460 So I actually don't see it happening, but the symbolism of this is that the state has decided to come back and try to intimidate all Canadians through the way they treat these two people who, when all is said and done, basically were free speech advocates.
00:40:31.800 Yeah, I think Nadja's right, Corey, that they're not going to get seven and eight years.
00:40:36.580 I mean, it's kind of like a bidding war, you know, the defense bids low, the prosecution bids high, and maybe the judge goes somewhere in the middle.
00:40:45.740 But it's mischief, as Nigel said.
00:40:49.800 It's about the pettiest crime we've got in the criminal code of Canada.
00:40:57.940 I mean, mischief can be serious.
00:40:59.640 guy who knocked over my motorcycle
00:41:03.280 created thousands of dollars of damage that I
00:41:05.320 caught and handed to the cops
00:41:07.320 well, he never
00:41:09.320 showed up for court and nothing happened, period
00:41:10.920 but that was more serious, that actually
00:41:13.380 created damage, it was vandalism
00:41:15.380 this is a crime
00:41:17.520 that essentially, like vandalism
00:41:19.260 gets put into this category
00:41:20.960 in many cases, it's a very minor charge
00:41:22.960 I don't know, I did not follow every day of the court
00:41:27.040 so I don't know if technically they're guilty or not
00:41:29.360 courts ruled they are fine but uh you know tamara and barber have already done respectively like 50
00:41:36.640 odd days in jails already which is more than anyone gets even if you get a fairly harsh
00:41:42.900 like no one gets no one gets jail for almost anything rapists pedos don't get jail now as
00:41:50.200 long as you've got immigration status uh but it's it's i mean if i was gonna roll the dice on this
00:41:56.960 and guess what I think they're going to go with.
00:42:00.460 He'll give them a split the difference,
00:42:02.340 three-year sentence, and then suspend it
00:42:03.980 and leave it at, don't do it again.
00:42:06.720 This is showing that on the books,
00:42:08.060 we put a big sentence for this crime,
00:42:10.840 if we want to call it as much as that.
00:42:13.120 Typically, they also say, you know,
00:42:14.680 a time served prior to court is usually triple time,
00:42:17.600 so you could add those months to it.
00:42:19.940 I don't, the judges seem to be reasonable
00:42:22.300 from what I've seen in the coverage of this.
00:42:24.000 Takes the job seriously.
00:42:25.240 is the public serve by putting them behind bars further are they protecting us from any risk by
00:42:30.780 putting behind bars further and I think most people even the government wants this one though
00:42:35.640 they want to make an example of them but they also want this issue to go into the books of history I
00:42:40.100 mean if he if he gives them a long sentence you can be assured there's going to be appeals
00:42:43.680 there's going to be more protests there's going to be issues it won't be putting it to bed it'll
00:42:48.920 actually be just dragging it on further not just for them but for everybody else so
00:42:52.560 it's a vindictive state that wants to really make an example and say, don't you dare speak up or
00:42:58.560 you're going to get it. But at the same time, I don't think they're, I could be wrong, but I don't
00:43:02.000 think they're going to give them a long decision. Suggesting that a judge might take political
00:43:05.600 considerations into account when making his decision? Well, I'm saying actually when it
00:43:10.840 comes to preventing that sort of incident from happening again, which is the goal,
00:43:15.720 is he going to do so? Okay. I can't even go back to Elise on this one because we're out of time.
00:43:22.560 We've got to go to our parting shots, but because I couldn't put you in there, Elise, you get, this is your first parting, your first time on the show.
00:43:31.640 So you get first crack at your parting shot.
00:43:37.140 Thank you so much.
00:43:38.160 Okay, so for me, I think one of the most under-read, unnoticed stories of the week was the fact that Canadian Border Services has lost almost 599 illegal immigrants in our system, and out of that, 401 have been convicted on serious criminal offenses, including sexual assault.
00:44:03.040 This was a story that was actually published by the Globe and Mail yesterday, but it's stemming from a report that CBSA actually released themselves.
00:44:13.180 And in a larger context, there's about 1,650 people here that have either served time or they have failed to meet the standard for staying that will be deported.
00:44:30.940 But unfortunately, 600 of those people, CBS, they cannot find.
00:44:37.100 And the concern is the level of criminality of 400 and something of them.
00:44:42.040 And the other, you know, 200, give or take, they themselves have certain levels of crime,
00:44:50.240 although not such serious offenses like the violent crime the 401 individuals have.
00:44:57.280 Okay, sorry, Elise, your signal's a little weak coming to us
00:45:04.000 from your remote, undisclosed location
00:45:07.060 Okay, quick, Nigel
00:45:09.860 Oh, just sadly taking note of the fact that
00:45:13.120 Secure Starmer in Great Britain has opted to go for
00:45:17.520 recognize a Palestinian state
00:45:19.780 He says to protect the viability of a two-state solution
00:45:22.920 They don't want, Hamas does not want a two-state solution
00:45:27.660 Everyone's a one-state solution, and they're it.
00:45:31.400 I'll go quickly.
00:45:32.380 Yeah, we were talking about constitutional charter rights.
00:45:34.400 We don't have free speech.
00:45:35.780 We don't have free expression.
00:45:36.540 But apparently, according to a judge in Ontario today,
00:45:38.860 bike lanes are constitutionally protected.
00:45:42.500 Yeah, yeah, you had to explain that one to me a bit off.
00:45:45.140 That seems pretty loopy, even for an Ontario court.
00:45:48.300 This one comes from Global News.
00:45:51.640 Extremist influencers, quote, weaponizing femininity, 1.00
00:45:55.060 warns Canadian intelligence report.
00:45:57.260 Women's workout routines that devolve into anti-government rhetoric, makeup tutorials with anti-feminist commentary, personal finance videos that blame immigrants for stealing jobs.
00:46:08.480 According to a Canadian government intelligence report, the extremist movements are weaponizing femininity on social media to track more women into their ranks.
00:46:17.080 um well i know we've all uh probably all four of us here have been on a list for some time
00:46:23.700 but uh ladies uh given makeup tutorials uh people with good genes uh you're now on the list too
00:46:31.700 welcome to the club all right uh that's it for today gentlemen thank you lady thank you for
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