Western Standard - October 04, 2023


Jordan Peterson ends up in tears speaking to Piers Morgan


Episode Stats

Length

3 minutes

Words per Minute

143.37213

Word Count

464

Sentence Count

60


Summary

In this episode, I chat to Jordan Peterson about his life and career. We talk about the importance of gratitude and how to deal with the pressures of being a celebrity. I think you'll find some gems in this one.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What is the best and worst thing about being Jordan Peterson?
00:00:06.320 The worst?
00:00:14.820 I'm a bit much.
00:00:18.680 And the best?
00:00:20.080 You might say.
00:00:22.280 What's the best thing?
00:00:23.840 I'm sort of running in all directions very rapidly.
00:00:26.900 And so that can be a bit much.
00:00:31.220 It's hard on people around me.
00:00:32.780 I'm a bit much, man.
00:00:34.840 And what's the best thing about you?
00:00:40.060 The best thing about being me?
00:00:42.060 Yeah.
00:00:43.300 It's overwhelming, really.
00:00:44.840 Well, the deep appreciation that people have for what I've been doing.
00:00:49.520 It's stunning.
00:00:50.840 It's soul-destroying.
00:00:53.180 But it's amazing.
00:00:54.680 Is it not soul-enhancing?
00:00:56.000 I mean, I feel it when I do interviews with you, the reaction I get from people, just how much you mean to them.
00:01:02.340 I mean, I can imagine it's so...
00:01:03.980 Yeah, well, that's a bit much, you know.
00:01:06.020 I mean, look, when I go, wherever I go, it's so strange, eh, because wherever I go, it's like I have friends there,
00:01:11.900 because I walk down the street and people wave at me and, you know, they call up my name.
00:01:15.620 And it's a bit much.
00:01:19.300 It's amazing.
00:01:19.860 It's really something.
00:01:20.840 But it's hard to...
00:01:22.600 It is.
00:01:23.960 It's hard to...
00:01:24.600 It's hard to wrap my head around it.
00:01:27.120 It's very hard to wrap my head around it.
00:01:28.880 And especially because it happened to me, you know, when I was...
00:01:32.460 Well, I didn't...
00:01:33.340 When I was older than 50, it's been quite an adjustment.
00:01:36.360 I wouldn't say it's one I've made.
00:01:38.500 And it's an immense responsibility.
00:01:41.480 And I'm not complaining about that at all.
00:01:43.920 I'd be a fool to complain.
00:01:45.420 An ungrateful fool.
00:01:47.280 But it's...
00:01:49.560 You know, it's a strange thing to have far more than you could ever imagine.
00:02:00.580 What do you mean?
00:02:03.500 Well, that's my life.
00:02:04.600 I have far more than I could ever imagine.
00:02:08.960 I didn't think it was possible.
00:02:13.020 I mean, you've become somebody who, in the later stage of a life...
00:02:17.180 Now, you did it again.
00:02:18.100 You got me again.
00:02:19.000 God damn it.
00:02:19.940 Yeah, it's very interesting.
00:02:21.460 I mean, you are an emotional person.
00:02:23.480 I know that.
00:02:25.120 But I think it's also interesting to me what makes you emotional.
00:02:28.520 And in a way, it's similar to why you were emotional last time I talked to you.
00:02:32.180 It's that you are very acutely aware of the influence you now have over so many millions of people.
00:02:38.640 And I think you feel that responsibility profoundly.
00:02:41.940 And I think that's what triggers in you an emotion.
00:02:46.960 Yeah, it's gratitude.
00:02:48.440 Yeah.
00:02:48.880 You know, you imagine someone gave you everything you could possibly imagine.
00:02:57.020 And more.
00:02:58.140 Well, that's the situation I'm in.
00:03:01.780 And do you find it overwhelming sometimes?
00:03:05.520 Always.
00:03:08.660 Always.
00:03:09.100 Always.
00:03:10.940 Yeah.
00:03:11.380 I think that's partly what made me ill.
00:03:14.160 I think that's partly what made me ill.