00:03:23.800we're talking about the tragedy of 115, the bodies of 115 dead children, 215 dead children
00:03:36.100discovered in Kamloops, British Columbia. We're going to talk about that. And we're going to talk
00:03:40.860about some of the broader issues around First Nations. And is it really possible for any kind
00:03:46.960of change in Canada? We're going to dive into that. I know Corey's got some particularly
00:03:50.900really interesting thoughts around it. We're going to be discussing an exclusive story from
00:03:57.600the Western Standard. Dave Naylor broke. UCP Constituency Association and Cypress Medicine
00:04:03.560Hat is demanding that Jason Kenney immediately return Drew Barnes, the Rebel MLA, back to the
00:04:10.880UCP caucus. I'll give anyone 10 to 1 odds. That's not going to happen. And K-Days versus the Calgary
00:04:20.240Stampede. Calgary Stampede is on, at least in some form. K-Day's is not, and K-Day's issuing
00:04:24.860some kind of snooty comments that I think could be interpreted as a shot across the bow,
00:04:31.220the Calgary Stampede. We're going to talk about what's going on there with the return of similar
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00:14:34.000got crime issues. All of these things are happening on the reserves that are still under the same
00:14:39.280Indian Act that facilitated those residential schools back then. Now's the time while people0.99
00:14:43.980are talking about it because I've had some people get on my case. They're upset. You know, this isn't
00:14:47.180the time to talk about it. No, this is exactly the time to talk about it. It's time to examine
00:14:51.320is having this racially segregated series of enclaves around the nation a good idea. And to0.96
00:14:57.860be blunt, it's apartheid. In any other country, you call it apartheid, yet somehow here we defend it0.99
00:15:02.620as if it's politically incorrect to question having racial segregation, which is what it is.
00:15:08.840And no, I say it's time to peel off that bandaid. We can't, I mean, we've got to investigate what
00:15:13.720happened. And we've got to hold people responsible if we can. We can't put that toothpaste back in
00:15:17.980the tube, but we can fix things going forward. And we have to, because if we just kick this
00:15:21.600under the rug again, as I said in my column, a generation from now, people are going to be
00:15:25.020looking back at us saying, why didn't you guys do something about that then?
00:15:27.700you know i think you're you're dead right but i actually don't believe it's possible
00:15:33.620this is one area of policy that i don't believe any significant positive change is possible
00:15:40.640whatsoever um you've got the i don't know what they call themselves anymore but essentially the
00:15:47.080the department of indian affairs whatever name it goes under now indigenous affairs maybe um
00:15:52.080It is a massive, entrenched bureaucracy that, James, James, I'm getting a call. It's frozen. Hit no call. Jesus. No, no, no, no. The red button on the screen.
00:16:08.620so i am sorry i don't know if any of you saw that i hope not i hope it was just frozen
00:16:16.180uh you know attempts have been made to change this stuff you've got a massive bureaucracy that
00:16:24.220doesn't want to change you've got i mean and let's understand here there's a difference between
00:16:30.460the chiefs and councils of first nations and first nations uh a lot of these chiefs and
00:16:37.040councils. Many of them are great and they have the best interests of the people at heart,
00:16:39.920but many of them, at least a significant number of them, they're little better than feudal
00:16:47.520chieftains that run it as a private fiefdom. They hand out contracts to themselves and family
00:16:55.360and they have no interest in reform. They have no interest in reform and losing the powers they've
00:17:00.320got. And I believe that any attempt to fix this is doomed to failure. The only kind of reforms
00:17:08.240we're going to see are probably more of a liberal style, which is, you know, maybe throw more money
00:17:14.680at the problem, but it's not fixing it. And I just won't accept that though. I understand this is one
00:17:19.200of the biggest difficult things. And yeah, it's not just the unreserved ones. There's thousands
00:17:22.560of lawyers and bureaucrats and I'll call them what they are. They're parasites and they are
00:17:27.460in federal buildings and they make a very healthy living out of this giant bloated bureaucracy that
00:17:32.680runs this sick system. But I mean, we still have to try. I know what you're saying. You're going
00:17:38.620to get so much resistance trying to change this system. But we have to keep pointing out, I mean,
00:17:42.440do we remember Davis Inlet? This was a community that was so messed up that they actually picked1.00
00:17:48.040up the entire town and moved it down the coast and rebuilt it. And 15 years later, it was just
00:17:53.400as bad as what they moved it away from. But it took till people saw children huffing gasoline
00:17:57.780from paper bags is what woke Canadians up and made them act. Unfortunately, we only seem to act
00:18:02.720when it's a tragedy. We just threw money at it. We moved it. We didn't fix any of the underlying
00:18:06.920problems. You're exactly right. We didn't fix it to even react, I guess, to taste a tragedy. And
00:18:11.240I know it seems terrible. We have to try. Yeah, we had Davis Inland. We've had Attawapiskat.
00:18:17.160We have this, even though this is obviously much before it's just come to our consciousness. Now,
00:18:21.040this happens about roughly every 10 years and we all care about it and we talk about it and we all
00:18:27.100pledge we're going to do something about it and then a couple months later it's gone until the
00:18:31.960next big thing happens and i call me a cynic but there is no issue on which i am more cynical about
00:18:38.780the possibility of change i just don't see it where we can uh you know reform the system doesn't
00:18:48.200just need reform it needs to be completely dismantled and i cannot see a circumstance
00:18:53.160under which uh i can see one okay western independence when you're rewriting an entire
00:18:59.800new deal that's a time when you can write some new deals just to interrupt that's getting very
00:19:04.360fictional and down the road perhaps but uh or speculative it is it is the only possible
00:19:08.920circumstance in order to take something that large but even then you'd still have some of the
00:19:12.520problems where you know at least a good portion of first nations leadership doesn't want to give
00:19:18.360up their power and what largely that power translates to their livelihoods i just don't
00:19:24.200see it happening because because you can't impose it on these people these people have rights they
00:19:28.120have treaties and this has to be it has to be mutually agreeable and if their leadership is not
00:19:33.320willing uh to because you know the the indian act is a racist document it's it segregates people
00:19:41.320but it's a conspiracy of white liberals and some of these barons that use this industry for their
00:19:52.880own purposes. And most of the garbage packed into the Indian Act isn't in any treaties. I actually
00:19:57.300posted all the treaties themselves on my website. The treaties are actually fairly simple documents.
00:20:02.400Most of the bigger obligations are actually the land divisions and boundaries or sickly and
00:20:07.000ironically, commitments for education, which actually led to the residential schools, but the
00:20:11.900Indian Act itself, actually, for the most part, a lot of the measures within it, we aren't committed
00:20:16.900to by treaty and so on, though a lot of people defending it imply as much, but that's not the
00:20:21.720case. As you said, it's a huge, monumentous task that may or may not ever get done, but I'm still
00:20:27.540going to keep speaking up and hope that eventually something happens. I think it's worth banging
00:20:30.960away it but i i'm just i have zero hope that this is ever going to be fixed before in in my lifetime
00:20:38.120okay well let's go on to something that's got probably a better chance of a result of a happy
00:20:45.860resolution but still not a good not very not a very good one still uh the cypress medicine hat
00:20:51.820ucp constituency association uh it has issued a letter demanding uh written to jason kenney
00:20:58.920demanding that their MLA, Drew Barnes, be immediately returned to the caucus.
00:21:04.360Dave, you broke the story. Tell us about it.
00:21:08.040Well, you remember the afternoon of the long knives, Derek, on May 13th when Drew Barnes and
00:21:14.600Todd Lowen were expelled from the UCP caucus in a secret ballot. It didn't go down too well with
00:21:20.680the UCP constituency association in Cyprus Medicine Hat.
00:21:27.000So they have sent a letter to Premier Kenney noting that Barnes was democratically elected
00:21:35.440and noting that he's well thought of in the writing and they demand that he immediately