KRAYDEN Phony polls, left wing media continue to dismiss Poilievre
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In this episode of the Western Standard's new political podcast, the team discusses the latest polls on the federal Conservative Party of Canada leadership race, the growing number of polls showing support for Jean Charest, and whether or not the Liberals are backing the wrong horse.
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Lots to talk about as usual out on the federal front.
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I guess your most recent one, I mean, we'll kind of start with that,
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and that's the polling and such with regards to the Federal Conservative Party of Canada race.
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Yeah, I noticed this this morning, and I think the Western Standard picked up on this as well
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I really found this poll to be, this Leger poll, to be completely haywire
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because it's basically no more accurate than some online poll where you ask a question
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and you take the first 100 responses, and that's your poll.
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So it's completely inaccurate, and there wasn't even a positive or negative in terms of accuracy
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First of all, 44% of Conservative voters apparently favor Pierpaglia.
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So I said, hey, if you add that up, that means where's the other 39%?
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And it certainly wasn't going equally to the other three contenders.
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So I don't know the number crunching some problems.
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But what really got me is the suggestion that Canadians writ large,
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Canadians as viewed, defined by the Liberal Party of Canada, don't like Pierpaglia and they like Jean Charest.
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And why are Conservatives backing the wrong horse?
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But at the same time, expect more of this in the next couple of months
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because Pierre is going to win this Conservative leadership race.
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I mean, if you have any money on it, good for you.
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If you're just interested in political science, I don't think there's any way he can lose
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He's certainly got the biggest crowds when he's out on the hustings.
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the endorsement by former Prime Minister Stephen Harper was the icing on the cake
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But he's not liked by the mainstream media, by the state media.
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He's considered to be too dangerous, whatever the heck that means.
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And can mean anything they want it to mean, of course.
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But I really do think we're going to see a lot of smearing going on against Pierpaglia
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If Justin's still around for this next election.
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And if, as a lot of people have been theorizing, we might have a fall election,
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I think Pierre is going to have the momentum from winning the leadership race
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and he's going to walk into this election fully prepared and warmed up and ready to go.
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And I think he's got this election beaten if it happens soon.
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Well, and, you know, those discussions, they come up basically anytime there's a candidate coming up
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We're seeing that here in Alberta as well, where it appears anyways that Daniel Smith
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has got a pretty good lead going on in the leadership race.
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So they start saying, well, sure, the conservative policies are good.
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And yes, they make sense in their comments, but they'll never win with the public.
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So we can't go with that candidate because we can't sell conservative policies to the public.
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And, you know, I think it might scare some people away.
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But typically, despite what people say, if they could be believed, we never would have had a Ralph Klein.
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You know, I mean, you can sell conservative policies to an electorate.
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I get furious with ideas, but the idea that Polly Ebb is somehow wrong to talk about freedom.
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I saw this the other day on Natasha Carradine's LinkedIn site, and she was doing an interview
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with a Calgary radio station, which will remain nameless with a host that I know very well
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But she said the subject of the conversation was going to be how talking about freedom
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This is what Polly Ebb's campaign has been all about.
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And as far as I'm concerned, this is what conservatism is all about.
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And if we don't talk about positive conservatism, as Ronald Reagan did, better than anybody else,
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I think, in the late 20th century, we're not going to win this because we're going
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We're going to be the same thing we were in the last election, which was not sure where
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we were politically, maybe somewhere to the right of Justin Trudeau, but not really in
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So I get very frustrated when I hear conservatives say, we need Jean Charest because he's a nice
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guy and Canadians all like him, except he's got the same policies as the current government,
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He's no different from Aaron O'Toole, who we had in there recently.
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And we do not need another liberal leading the Conservative Party.
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And Pierre Polly Ebb is certainly going to provide that choice.
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Is he the only candidate that's providing that choice?
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No, I like most of the candidates in this race, but I think he's the only one that can
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It's going to be a very nasty race in the next election because they're going to throw everything
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at Pierre that they can possibly come up with in terms of him being too extreme, too
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right wing, too dangerous, too populist, blah, blah, blah.
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But I think Pierre is astute enough, articulate enough, and good on his feet enough to come
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And I don't think another candidate out there is going to be tough enough to go against the
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liberal machine, whether it's Justin Trudeau or whether it's, God forbid, the finance minister,
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I don't care who they put up, but the liberal party is a vicious political machine when it's
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And I think it's going to be a very tough election.
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And I think we need someone with his stamina and his guts to fight this election, to duke
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it out with the liberals and the NDP in this next election.
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I mean, when we try to out-liberal the liberals, people will just vote liberal.
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I mean, if I were a liberal voter, I've got, well, this is a conservative pretending to be
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And here's a liberal who's unapologetically liberal.
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And meanwhile, the conservative voters see a conservative saying he's liberal.
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And yeah, we'll see it again if we try to stick another pretend liberal up there.
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You know, you reminded me of something here, Corey.
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I really have to do a column about this, because what the Brexit results showed a couple of
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years back in Britain was that there were about 20 percent of the electorate was sitting out
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elections because they just weren't motivated to vote.
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They didn't think there was enough of a difference, enough of a choice.
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And they came out for Brexit to overwhelmingly say, no, we don't want to be part of the European
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And that was the secret of that campaign's success.
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It wasn't saying, we're going to attract the liberal voters on our side.
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It was, we're going to get those people who haven't been voting.
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And that's what Pierre has really been going after.
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But his populist message, his message, which is very like what the Republican Party is trying
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to get out in the States, is that it's not a party that's open to every idea out there,
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but it's open to everybody out there who wants to be part of this political movement.
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And it's a conservative populist movement that is attracting blue-collar workers, working-class
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people, new immigrants, people who have traditionally not voted conservative are going to be voting
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conservative in this next election because, quite frankly, the liberals are bankrupt of
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And they're getting excited about this idea of freedom.
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And my goodness, working-class people are tired of paying taxes the same way middle-class
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So I think we've got a great opportunity here to sell positive conservatism.
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Yeah, I believe so, too, if it can be done right.
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And getting on that speculative road, I mean, there's two big speculations, whether or not
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The other thing you wrote about wondering, you know, well, Trudeau is out languishing in Costa
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Not that he's cheap for all of us when he's home either.
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But you think he might be just, you know, making his mind up?
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Is it time to give it one more kick at the can to try and get a majority or that he might
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throw his hands up and say, oh, maybe it's time to walk off into the sunset?
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Because people like Trudeau, who are very narcissistic, it's all about legacy for them.
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And right now, he really doesn't have much of a legacy except legalizing marijuana and
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being one of the worst prime ministers in the history of this country.
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So I think he's wondering what he can do to stay in power.
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I don't think he's really contemplating resignation.
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But I think he is plotting his return, as it will.
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Right now, I think he is in very, very dangerous ground.
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But Justin Trudeau, don't ever think he sells himself short because he really thinks he
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Well, he lives in a special bubble world of his own, I'm sure.
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I mean, as you said, you can't underestimate that liberal machine, though.
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Even if the guy at the head of it isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, they've got
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some very powerful strategists and connections that there will be a well-funded campaign.
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So, I mean, the conservatives are definitely going to have to go straight into at least
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election preparation mode the moment they're finished with their leadership race.
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And this is going to be a very tough election, as I said.
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And I think the conservatives have to be prepared for that.
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And as I said, I think Paliyev, he's a tough political character.
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But he's been there long enough to understand politics is a tough sport.
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Well, I appreciate you coming in to talk to us today, David.
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And always those prolific Ottawa-based columns coming out from out there.
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Have you got stuff coming down the pipe you can give us a heads up on?
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Or are you still seeing what you're going to write on next?
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I'd like to revisit this fertilizer mess, which I had a great time last week talking to former Agriculture Minister Jerry Ritz, which is just going up the turnstile there.
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Jerry is really motivated to get out about this message that Trudeau is deliberately tampering with our food supply by essentially banning fertilizer because it contains nitrogen, which he thinks is causing greenhouse gases.
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And this is even rather Canadians go without food and starve rather than emit a few more greenhouse gases.
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And it's really quite negligible in terms of is this having any effect on climate change at all?
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Probably not, because even if we stopped emitting any greenhouse gases in Canada, and if Justin Trudeau stopped flying in his Challenger jet and creating this huge carbon footprint, even if he stopped it, China and India would still be producing much more of these things than we are.
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So really, I don't think we want to fall on our sword over this.
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And as Jerry points out, there's no more responsible environmental stewards out there than farmers.
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Farmers are some of the best, but they're being punished by Justin Trudeau because he doesn't think they're important.
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He doesn't think people who work the land, he doesn't think people who produce the food that he eats, breakfast, lunch and dinner, he thinks it comes from the grocery store and nothing before that.
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And I think that this is an issue, I think it's the most important issue facing Canada right now.
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And this might destroy Justin Trudeau's political career, because I think there's enough sane people in the Liberal Caucus who are saying, this is insanity.
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We cannot go down this route because this sounds like a Maoist great leap forward, which ended in catastrophic results.
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Well, Canada's agriculture minister just this morning was up saying, no, no, no, no, you guys are misinterpreting.
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No, it's not only, it's not voluntary, won't be voluntary, but the tariff on fertilizer is not voluntary right now.
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We're the only G7 country that's taxing fertilizer out of the market for farmers.
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They literally will not be able to afford to buy fertilizer.
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So don't trust or believe with the Liberal government on this because they are driven by a radical climate change agenda.
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And that's really all they care about is satisfying their masters in the World Bank, the World Economic Forum, and the people who are pushing for radical green energy plans.
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Yeah, I mean, well, you know, the elitists who are pushing this don't care if the price of caviar goes up a little for them, but it's going to hurt everybody else in a terrible way if they get these sorts of things pushed through.
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But, all right, well, thank you very much again for coming on and keeping on with these.
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As you said, this is an issue that could grow big.
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I mean, it took down a government in Sri Lanka.
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I mean, I think they've overplayed their hand on this thing, and that might be the catalyst for change in Canada finally.
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And I look forward to seeing more columns in the coming days.
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A pleasure meeting with you again, Corey, and all the best.