Western Standard - Liberals extend amnesty period for firearms ban

00:00:00.000 experience for me today I am not in the

00:00:28.120 studio uh i don't know if do you want me to get up and can we pan real quick if i get up and just

00:00:35.400 show you let me uh i'll leave the camera and i'll come over here maybe we should have started the

00:00:41.480 show this way yeah all right we're good all right so i'm coming here to sail go ahead yeah yeah no

00:00:52.760 well i wasn't i wasn't coming to interview you i just wanted to start the show this way and show

00:00:57.240 that i'm not in studio today right now i am with the western standard and we are media partners

00:01:02.780 here at the uh i still call it the petroleum show what's it called it's the global energy show the

00:01:08.380 global energy show yeah i i i have an oil patch background maybe i'll come back to that in a

00:01:13.020 second but um like we are a partner yeah we are media partners they invite us every year uh we

00:01:22.700 are considered to be one of the most pro-energy publications. Being a Western Canadian-based

00:01:27.620 company, obviously, that puts us in a lot of oil and gas supporters, good graces. So

00:01:34.700 we always have had that bent. So they're always happy to have us here. They've let us set

00:01:38.580 up a booth, and we've been hosting our shows here all week. Awesome. All week. Now it's

00:01:43.260 the end of the show, and then when you walk around, you can tell people are getting a

00:01:47.020 little tired. If I remember, though, there used to be a tradition. After the show, there's

00:01:52.220 usually a few road pops and a few hospitality yeah no we won't be doing a hospitality suite but if

00:01:58.340 you want to come down we are selling merchandise I'm glad we're doing this we got our Ralph Klein 0.96

00:02:02.980 shirts in here uh let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark if you want and we also we don't have 0.97

00:02:08.100 any coffee mugs in stock but the coffee mugs been doing which one's been the best seller the best 0.94

00:02:11.820 seller just because we have Steven Guibo's uh mug shot um I would grab it and bring it over here

00:02:18.460 but we've got the Stephen Guibo collection t-shirts.

00:02:21.620 He's not very happy about these because he's frustrated about being lampooned so much,

00:02:26.520 but we've put his mug shot on a t-shirt, and we've put it on coffee mugs as well.

00:02:31.340 You know what I say to politicians that are upset about being lampooned? 1.00

00:02:34.940 Don't be an idiot. 1.00

00:02:36.220 Like, if you don't want to be lampooned, do your job. 1.00

00:02:39.700 If you do your job, we'll respect you. 0.99

00:02:41.500 If you're a clown... 0.99

00:02:43.460 You'll quit, right? 0.98

00:02:44.320 and uh so yeah these are limited time collection because uh he is quitting uh but uh yeah we're

00:02:50.540 looking forward to the day that uh so these are yeah these are on sale down here so if you're in

00:02:54.480 calgary and you want to swing by uh we're here till four and you can grab your shirt awesome

00:02:58.980 all right well i'm gonna go back and sit down and then i'll give my normal uh all right so uh now i

00:03:09.920 don't have a teleprompter but that's okay so the show is not i'm gonna it's the same format folks

00:03:15.280 nothing changes uh just because we're coming live from the uh energy show um it is still a call-in

00:03:22.400 show the numbers on the bottom of the screen i i assume right john everything's good so uh i got

00:03:29.220 my headphone nothing's changed but i've also i'll offer this if you are at the show right now and

00:03:36.020 you want to come around you can come around and sit down next to me and we can have a little

00:03:39.680 quick chat. Sounds good? So actually, let me give you a quick background on my involvement with the

00:03:50.080 oil patch, right? So you guys know I'm an engineer and online I'm known as Marty Up North. People

00:03:55.080 often say, why are you known as Marty Up North? I started my career in the oil patch in a place

00:04:02.180 called Fox Creek, Alberta. And let me tell you just a quick story, right? So I graduated from

00:04:07.960 engineering back in 1989 and at that time Canada was just coming out of a recession so was Alberta

00:04:15.980 and jobs were hard to come by now luckily I had worked in the oil patch so I had you know a pretty

00:04:22.500 good resume but still jobs were hard to come by and I was interviewing with a company called Amoco

00:04:28.620 Amoco doesn't exist anymore but Amoco was a pretty big company at the time and what they did is they

00:04:35.940 I sent my resume like anybody else, and then they were shortlisting about 40 of us.

00:04:42.160 I mean, that's a lot of resumes.

00:04:43.920 And they invited us all to come to the Crossfield Gas Plant, which is just north of Calgary here.

00:04:50.960 And at the Crossfield Gas Plant, Amoco had guys from a lot of their various different offices,

00:04:56.380 and they were interviewing us, and they were looking for about 10 students, 10 new grads to go work in the oil patch.

00:05:02.420 and i remember sitting around uh talking to one of the interviewers and i asked him a pretty blunt

00:05:09.260 question i said is there a town where nobody wants to go work and the guy said yeah nobody wants to

00:05:16.840 go work in fox creek so i said okay well then you know being a smart ass i'm like so if nobody wants

00:05:22.420 to go work in fox creek if i accept to go work in fox creek do i get a job and the guy immediately 0.55

00:05:26.800 the guy's name was bruce berg if you're still around bruce uh shout out to you bud and he's

00:05:32.000 like yeah if you're willing to go to Fox Creek we'll give you a job so I said you know I'll go

00:05:35.660 to Fox Creek I had no idea what I was getting into I'm an eastern kid at that point um I'd

00:05:42.860 worked in Slave Lake I had worked in Calgary but I had not been to Fox Creek I accepted the job

00:05:48.020 I owned a little Dodge Omni through my big speakers a few things that drove up to Fox Creek and I'm

00:05:54.320 like you know everybody's first reaction is like oh my what have you done but um turned out to be

00:06:00.200 a great choice for a career and uh for lifestyle for and for whatever reason i mean it started out

00:06:07.920 my career on the right path because i started working up north close to the action and ended

00:06:13.360 up living in fox creek for about eight years and and and the sort of the last thing i want to say

00:06:19.540 about that time and it ties to this right that was 35 years ago that i was in fox creek and i

00:06:26.620 remember when I'm settling down there and I'm starting to work and there were these old timers

00:06:31.700 that basically said Marty don't get too comfortable here this industry is dead I was like what okay

00:06:39.700 I chose to go into the oil patch and is dying right they couldn't have been more wrong I mean

00:06:45.780 the industry is it's been 30 for me it's been 1990 or 1889 it's it's going on 37 years I've

00:06:53.500 been working in this industry in one way or another, and the industry is still going strong, and the show today here, this week, walking around, people are excited, right?

00:07:03.320 I mean, the show used to be big, then COVID hit, the show got smaller, and now the show is regaining size and importance, but the other thing that's happening is, I think there is a real awakening out east, especially among liberals, they've really realized the war in Iran brought this to the forefront.

00:07:23.500 this industry is not going away folks like oil and gas

00:07:27.580 I mean the show I'll say this they've rebranded

00:07:31.180 it used to be called the global petroleum show I noticed on the board up there it's now called the global

00:07:35.320 energy show I guess that's an attempt to include more than just petroleum

00:07:39.400 it includes wind and solar and things like that and there's a little bit of evidence of that

00:07:43.420 here there are there are people in those industries here

00:07:47.140 but fundamentally this is a petroleum

00:07:50.800 a hydrocarbon show and hydrocarbons are not going away anytime soon like just not anytime soon

00:07:57.840 okay so um we got a call on the line i'm getting a signal uh same as usual let me know your name

00:08:04.320 where you're calling from what you want to talk about and uh we'll go from there go ahead

00:08:13.200 hello

00:08:17.280 maybe they're talking john and i can't hear them

00:08:20.800 Okay, well, I'll keep, we'll let John work on that.

00:08:28.060 We might have a small technical glitch here because we're not in studio.

00:08:35.820 Curtis, I see you standing over there.

00:08:37.840 Are you brave enough to come chat?

00:08:40.720 Sure.

00:08:42.220 Oh, yes.

00:08:43.260 Oh, hang on one second.

00:08:44.240 I can hear you better now.

00:08:45.000 Okay, we got somebody on the line.

00:08:46.360 Go ahead.

00:08:46.820 What's your name?

00:08:47.360 Where are you calling from?

00:08:48.000 my name is slavica vukmanovic and i'm calling from bc oh what's on your mind how are you today

00:08:56.680 i'm good okay so my message is that alberta is doing the absolute correct thing and i don't

00:09:09.460 know why all the other provinces in canada aren't doing exactly the same thing wanting

00:09:15.520 independence from our government and wanting to write a new constitution because our present

00:09:22.800 constitution is making slaves of all canadians you're okay yeah you're preaching to the converted

00:09:30.640 i i'm with you there so fantastic so my message is you know that your people in alberta should

00:09:41.280 actually not only be encouraging their own people but all people in canada because our constitution

00:09:48.720 affects all people in canada yeah no i agree i mean yeah no that's ambitious i mean let's uh you know

00:10:06.960 And so, and I don't know why people in Alberta are not voting for independence.

00:10:18.680 What is so difficult to understand, okay, about what the problem is?

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00:12:06.960 Just dealing with some technical difficulties, apologies.

00:12:30.200 Here, John can get you your own microphone and then we'll be, we'll have a little chat

00:12:35.440 back and forth perfect so i won't be able to hear the callers if to call in but uh yeah so yeah happy

00:12:47.760 to be here uh what are the hot topics this week well the actually the number one topic that i

00:12:52.560 wanted to talk about today is well i got two i want to talk about carney's comments about

00:12:58.720 or not carney's comments trump's comments about not being interested in renewing kuzma i thought

00:13:03.760 that's a good one yeah and uh we'll start with that one and let maybe callers call in on that

00:13:09.760 one i also want to talk about the gun ban amnesty period being extended i think those two are pretty

00:13:15.920 important and if we have time i know we have time i want to talk about uh what's going on in tabor

00:13:20.320 with cory's uh signs yes yes you know that's all fantastic stuff on kuzma i think this is a very

00:13:26.800 interesting period for the federal government um you're dealing with uh potentially disastrous

00:13:32.240 trade talks there's uh and you're dealing with the president that is a master in in the art of

00:13:38.240 these negotiations it'll be interesting to see how just given the state of confederation where

00:13:43.960 you have a prime minister trying his best to keep a country together that is fraying at the seams

00:13:49.960 all the while do you think he's trying i mean some days i think he's trying he's talking the

00:13:55.480 talk at least publicly. Do I think that he's legitimate in his approach? Absolutely not.

00:14:03.000 I think that there... But did you see the clip of Trump? I mean, it sort of made the rounds

00:14:07.540 yesterday. Like, Trump basically said in a press conference from the Oval Office that he's not

00:14:11.840 interested in renewing Kuzma. That Carney's not or Trump isn't? Trump's not interested. Well,

00:14:17.460 especially in his current form. And he's got legitimate concerns, right? I mean,

00:14:21.000 And one of the biggest issues that has affected Canadians is dairy, for example, and our supply management system.

00:14:28.480 We have under-contributed to a lot of military.

00:14:34.480 Yeah, and he brings up those points, right?

00:14:36.300 Yeah.

00:14:37.980 In the clip yesterday, he's kind of nice.

00:14:40.000 I mean, what I think he wants to say is, you know, Canada's not pulling its weight,

00:14:43.880 And he might even want to go a little bit further in saying, you know, your prime minister is being a bit of a problem.

00:14:52.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:54.820 But then I also listen to him in what you just said earlier.

00:14:58.060 He's also a master at negotiation.

00:15:00.840 So that's a good start, right?

00:15:02.800 You kind of say, I'm not interested.

00:15:04.320 And then you throw the ball in the other guy's court.

00:15:06.940 Well, he's got a lot of issues with like a lot of protectionist policies.

00:15:11.320 And I think that's one of the, we talk about cultural differences between Eastern Canada and Western Canada.

00:15:17.600 Western Canada out here, we haven't been able to rely on the East as much as we need the U.S., right?

00:15:22.780 That's just a geographical thing.

00:15:24.440 There's a border on the 49th parallel just south, in the Couture, just on that south end there.

00:15:30.980 So a lot of people in Alberta, like our history, we've had to rely on the United States more.

00:15:35.880 Whereas out East, they're, you know, it's a different type of a concept.

00:15:40.660 they feel like they need to protect Ontario jobs.

00:15:43.580 And so I think it puts Canada in trade negotiations at a bit of a crossroads

00:15:48.900 where, yes, we have Western interests that we need the United States,

00:15:53.260 we want to sell to the United States, but then we also have Ontario interests.

00:15:57.740 Like every time I see a Protect Ontario ad, I want to throw something at my TV.

00:16:01.300 Because in my opinion, yes, we do need Ontario jobs,

00:16:04.980 but we need to have a better trade relationship with the United States.

00:16:08.920 We are an export-based economy.

00:16:10.620 They are our largest trading partner.

00:16:12.960 And a lot of these policies that over years of liberal and, in some cases, progressive conservative governments have watered down that trade relationship.

00:16:21.260 It brings up issues about our internal trade structure as well, right?

00:16:24.600 Yeah, well, yeah, there's a lot to unpack there.

00:16:27.960 But if Trump doesn't renegotiate, and by the way, renegotiate would be, it's still good for 10 years, right?

00:16:33.080 I mean, there's a window here coming up where we could fine-tune it and extend it, I guess,

00:16:39.960 by another 10 years.

00:16:40.900 But if nothing happens in July, then status quo goes on for another 10 years.

00:16:46.020 It could get worse, though.

00:16:47.100 I mean, Trump has the power to, he could say, I want out.

00:16:53.000 He could sort of file a, what's the word, make a, he could literally pull out of the deal.

00:17:02.220 He could pull out of the deal with six months' notice, but I just want to go back to a couple of things that you sort of mentioned.

00:17:08.440 Alberta, yeah, Alberta has a different history with the U.S. and a different relationship, right?

00:17:13.160 I mean, our number one trade with them is what we're seeing here.

00:17:16.040 We trade oil, a lot of it, and gas, and that's not covered by Kuzma.

00:17:20.880 No, well, I think it is, but I think in terms of the tariffs and Trump's approach to the negotiations,

00:17:26.420 and this goes back to a lot of, like, in the Free Alberta strategy, which Rob Anderson wrote,

00:17:32.220 One of the main objectives of an Alberta government

00:17:36.620 that is focused on Alberta interests

00:17:38.300 is you create your own trade relationships.

00:17:41.180 And so we saw in January of last year 0.97

00:17:44.300 Danielle Smith going down to Mar-a-Lago 0.88

00:17:46.880 and was absolutely ripped and called a trader

00:17:49.260 just for putting Alberta's interests on the map. 1.00

00:17:51.500 Just for doing her business.

00:17:52.620 Yeah, and so you want to talk about an evolution of circumstances 0.54

00:17:55.720 and we now have the independence referendum coming up.

00:17:59.100 It's very much like if that's the attitude of the rest of the country

00:18:02.100 that we aren't even allowed to find ways to exempt our products

00:18:07.100 from potentially nasty trade negotiations

00:18:10.500 where on our side it's being led by a prime minister

00:18:14.380 that is focused on protecting Ontario jobs.

00:18:16.660 It's going to create more division down the road. 0.96

00:18:19.120 So this Kuzma thing is definitely something to keep an eye on over the next few months. 1.00

00:18:22.200 So I'll just finish it with this.

00:18:24.160 So right now oil gets at best a 10% tariff, right?

00:18:28.520 And it doesn't seem to really affect our production.

00:18:32.460 We're still selling, selling, setting records.

00:18:34.780 But on the other hand, Kuzma does protect a lot of Ontario and Quebec industries.

00:18:41.180 Trump would like to put tariffs on more of Ontario and Quebec products, but Kuzma prevents them.

00:18:46.680 So if Kuzma is not renewed, that could be really disastrous.

00:18:51.820 Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:53.020 Like, it could have absolutely devastating economic impacts.

00:18:55.680 we've already seen job numbers across the country uh alberta is leading the country i mean all of

00:19:01.520 these fear campaigns from guys like jason kenney uh and others that are saying that if we move down

00:19:08.240 this road that the alberta economy is going to crash like this discussion it has been going on

00:19:13.440 for months and we are still leading the country by a large margin in job growth so i think like

00:19:18.640 just can we do just a weird uh yeah no no no weird left turn on jobs or you're right so alberta's

00:19:25.280 creating the most jobs danielle's been saying and i agree i've seen the data but did you see uh there

00:19:30.080 was a comment yesterday from um i guess it's elections alberta says that the referendum will

00:19:35.200 require about 60 000 temporary workers right okay sure enough it's it's like an election

00:19:40.800 and ndp nenshi was complaining about that like since when does an ndp leader complain about more

00:19:46.560 jobs well actually i think that's a regular thing they do job creation is not something that

00:19:52.720 The provincial or federal, they're federal counterparts in the federal NDP.

00:19:57.740 I don't even want to go on this federal counterpart.

00:20:00.120 Abby's had some doozies this week. 0.79

00:20:01.620 I know. 0.99

00:20:02.280 Abby's always an interesting character.

00:20:04.320 So, yeah, no, I think the elections in Alberta thing,

00:20:07.660 I'm not as dialed in to the internal mechanisms.

00:20:10.960 I think that, you know, a $90 million price tag on that,

00:20:15.100 I don't know how they're planning on spending.

00:20:17.120 I'd like to see a costed analysis of exactly how that breakdown occurs.

00:20:21.080 I mean, I can prorate some of the previous elections,

00:20:24.180 and there's no way that $100 million is in the range.

00:20:29.060 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:30.440 Yeah, the NDP just liked to...

00:20:32.220 Actually, it's been noticeable that Nenshi is distancing himself from Abby Lewis.

00:20:38.980 I have noticed that it's kind of hard to completely distance yourself

00:20:41.740 when the link is constitutional.

00:20:44.140 Like, when you buy an Alberta NDP membership, you also get a federal membership.

00:20:48.060 Like, this is just, like, no matter how hard Nenshi tries to dismiss himself, unless that has changed,

00:20:53.560 and I actually think that the NDP needs to totally rebrand.

00:20:57.040 I think they have, actually, I think they've got some issues internally with provincial liberals, right?

00:21:02.660 Like, you might see more people that support Carney than support Nenshi.

00:21:06.240 I'd argue that Nenshi's already sort of doing that rebranding, right?

00:21:09.360 He's getting more purple, less orange, more purple.

00:21:13.880 Yeah, I mean, every time there's an infrastructure crisis in Calgary,

00:21:17.560 it knocks them down a little bit, but yeah.

00:21:20.020 You'll never live down the water.

00:21:21.060 Never live down the water pipes, no.

00:21:22.980 Yeah, no kidding.

00:21:24.420 All right, well, let's move on then.

00:21:26.160 So actually, breaking news.

00:21:29.080 There's breaking news.

00:21:29.900 I wanted to talk about Corey's billboard and Tabor.

00:21:35.240 Kudos to Corey, right?

00:21:36.600 I mean, one thing I like about the independence movement is that it's grassroots

00:21:40.040 And it's sort of leadership and effort is moving around, right?

00:21:44.200 So Jeff Rath and Mitch put in a lot of effort.

00:21:49.040 And to me, it looks like they're sort of maybe Mitch Moore is kind of taking a break.

00:21:53.460 I don't blame him, right?

00:21:54.880 But then there's no void.

00:21:57.220 Corey's stepping up.

00:21:58.220 I love the way Corey's stepping up.

00:21:59.820 I think that's just the nature of the movement, right?

00:22:02.040 Like it's not, and it never has been leader driven.

00:22:04.840 It's all, it's, you have a base of people that they're looking for answers.

00:22:09.040 They're looking for answers. They're looking for leadership. And if you have an incident, I think one of the issues that Rath and Sylvester are experiencing right now is that you have a referendum question. You have to focus on campaigning for that question.

00:22:24.040 And yes, there's frustration towards the decision by Smith to move in this direction.

00:22:28.660 But if you're not properly channeling the emotions of your supporters and you're focusing away from where they want to focus, which is probably on winning this referendum.

00:22:39.580 I mean, if this referendum isn't won, it's a devastating blow.

00:22:43.380 So that gives guys like Corey who are focused on what they need to be focused on, which is winning this referendum.

00:22:51.140 And I think that the basis of support is just following whoever is leading the people in that direction.

00:22:57.260 In that direction, yeah.

00:22:57.940 And it's not like everybody's got their individual egos,

00:23:01.220 but the people that are showing up and they're gathering petitions, signatures,

00:23:06.480 and they're showing up at events and they're asking questions, those are just regular people.

00:23:11.340 They show up at a lot.

00:23:12.820 When I had Project Confederation, they'd show up at my events.

00:23:16.100 They're great people.

00:23:17.120 Yeah, and I just wanted, like I was going to do, it's a shout out to Corey.

00:23:21.500 So I think he's stepping up while others are regrouping kind of thing, which is good.

00:23:26.040 So the leadership is, it's a grassroots movement and people step up at various times.

00:23:31.400 So I think Corey lately has done a great job of stepping up.

00:23:33.720 But the breaking news was, we all know that Corey right now is in a battle with the town of Tabor.

00:23:40.720 Yes.

00:23:41.240 Because he put up one sign, now he's got two more.

00:23:43.060 So he's up to three, which is great.

00:23:44.540 but just just breaking right now jason levine got one in edmonton oh so where where in edmonton got

00:23:52.160 one right close to the legislature good big digital one like that's breaking breaking breaking so

00:23:58.820 that's cool so people are uh are um stepping up yeah and actually i like the kind of like it's not

00:24:07.400 a single organization that's leading it it's a lot of individual voices that you know they're all

00:24:12.940 moving to the same direction i think it's it's a little bit even even our boss right even derek

00:24:17.460 stepped up a little yeah exactly challenge out to uh thomas lukasic yeah i actually wrote a column

00:24:23.440 about that um i i would like and i i don't i don't want to be too critical of mr lukasic but

00:24:29.880 i think the issue that he has is that he actually doesn't have solutions like he recognizes the

00:24:35.440 grievances and then he just stops you know what i mean and i think that's part of the problem that

00:24:39.540 federalists have right now is the fact that they like what are the arguments

00:24:44.040 for saying he's not the only one I mean I you know honestly I even threw out

00:24:48.420 that comment a similar comment to Daniel Smith I mean Daniel Smith was in at or

00:24:53.460 or our Pierre Poiliev who came here last week I'm saying that's great you've come

00:24:57.540 here preaching unity and apparently you know the problem like we have some of

00:25:02.100 the solutions here's some of the solutions are you ready to cancel the

00:25:05.280 equalization are you ready to redistribute the seats are you ready to

00:25:08.640 allow us to select our own judges and then it's quiet yeah i think that's the issue that they're

00:25:14.720 running into is these are real like we're not talking about policy decisions yes the policy

00:25:19.400 decisions drive a lot of the anger but the anger comes from somewhere and it comes from the

00:25:23.520 structural deficiencies in confederation we have 38 7 seats out of the 343 in the house of commons

00:25:29.460 we contribute on average 15 of all federal taxes collected come from albertans albertan companies

00:25:35.980 and albertan individuals and yet the federal government only sends us back our share of the

00:25:39.760 population so we get about 10.5 percent of all federal funding so you got to think about this

00:25:45.460 every 15 dollars you spend you send auto on taxes you only get back 10.5 percent in funding for

00:25:52.120 social programs like health care and even when you get it back it comes back with conditions

00:25:56.720 yeah and all the while they're bringing policies and they're designed to shut down our major

00:26:01.900 and energy industry drive the the things that drive the economic growth so i mean yes carney

00:26:08.400 has moved a lot but i don't think the mou properly captures it i think they're effectively what the

00:26:14.920 mou is is is carney's giving us five percent of what we want and if that and we're acting as if

00:26:22.840 this is going to save the whole thing again i don't think that's the case i think it's driving

00:26:26.640 a lot of the anger yeah and i think uh it'll be interesting to see how this plays out but

00:26:31.760 the tabor situation is very interesting yeah yeah it is absolutely listen i appreciate you jumping

00:26:36.960 in yep are you willing to i'm pointing to a friend over there yes she did okay we're gonna

00:26:42.560 you know oh yeah i know very well yeah you can take my mic and come on the air just right here

00:26:49.360 yep that's fine thanks Josh you can't hear yourself but does she sound good

00:26:57.700 she's okay can I put you on the spot and explain our relationship our unique

00:27:03.400 relationship okay let's let's do it let's go there that'll help me fill Josh's

00:27:07.900 big shoes here now I'll have like a legit yeah so we're both members of the

00:27:13.960 Liberal Party and during during the leadership debate the Kearney came to

00:27:21.400 Calgary to hold down or to closer so during the leadership debate Kearney

00:27:29.080 came to Calgary twice now the security to get in a Kearney event even for lead

00:27:33.760 members of the party was tough right and I tried getting in a couple of times

00:27:39.140 they wouldn't let me in as soon as they'd see me they cancelled me and so

00:27:42.640 all I kept doing is trying to find somebody in the security who didn't know

00:27:46.420 me and eventually ran across Deidre and she she had registered two people her

00:27:53.020 husband yeah who couldn't make it so I got passed off as her husband and we

00:27:57.760 eventually got in that was funny that was a good day yeah yeah it was it was

00:28:03.040 fun it was good to get in there hear what happened definitely the highest

00:28:08.960 security political event i think i've ever been to i've never been i imagine a true i imagine a

00:28:14.640 carny one now would be really really uh really tight security and and contrasting that did you

00:28:20.760 have the opportunity to go to polyev events during that period i didn't no i actually would have

00:28:26.360 liked to i heard some pretty good things that they were large but they were fairly well run they

00:28:31.880 weren't quite efficient because we must have stood in line for close to an hour barely any security

00:28:36.280 for Poilier, right? You just showed up, they opened the door, everybody went in. They did

00:28:40.360 the usual, check your bag, make sure you're, but they weren't stopping

00:28:44.280 people, right? I know I felt I was being stopped on

00:28:48.400 purpose. I remember Wyatt Claypool and a few other people were being stopped at the time.

00:28:52.200 We watched the police block him, like physically block him from

00:28:56.260 moving forward to get anywhere near the event, which seemed

00:29:00.200 a little bit excessive. So are you an exhibitor here today? What brought you to

00:29:04.200 the show this week? No, I'm not an exhibitor. I am just an attendee. I was just at the careers in

00:29:11.120 energy national jobs report. They just released their report for energy related jobs out to 2035.

00:29:19.280 So I wanted to hear what the forecast was. What's the outlook? And it's really positive.

00:29:25.460 So what would you say to a young person who's considering a career in the oil patch or the

00:29:30.460 energy sector do you call it the oil patch still or do you call it the energy

00:29:33.280 sector well I'm gonna call it the energy sector because that's what the report

00:29:37.460 was about they don't limit simply to oil and gas right so it's you know it

00:29:41.560 really is everything from hydrogen to biofuels to renewable so much but you

00:29:49.840 know it's all of that and I think we are moving to a more diverse energy mix and

00:29:55.700 And so I call it the energy sector.

00:29:58.840 But the reality is the majority of the jobs, current and future,

00:30:03.860 are still going to be in traditional energy, meaning oil and gas.

00:30:08.320 Yeah, and I mean, to me, that's, you know, you talk about the reality.

00:30:13.500 The reality is the reality.

00:30:15.120 The reality is we live in a country, we live in a world with how many billions of people who want energy?

00:30:21.860 And who has that energy?

00:30:23.020 Yeah, it's reliable and it's transportable as well. I mean, oil, obviously in its sort

00:30:30.940 of oily form is transportable. Stick it on a tanker, you can move it. Now that we have LNG.

00:30:37.000 As long as it's not trying to go through the Strait of Hormuz this week, but that's a different issue.

00:30:41.000 Yeah, that's not a function of the properties of oil. And now with liquefied natural gas,

00:30:48.020 we're able to move natural gas around the globe as well so those certain

00:30:53.120 properties are incredibly important you cannot move wind and solar no and a

00:30:59.480 tanker across the you can store it temporarily in a battery but even when

00:31:03.380 you store it that's it's a big effort so so generally wait did you come here

00:31:09.420 every day or just today I came here on the opening day for avatar innovations

00:31:15.960 and BBA. That's who you're doing work for right now these days? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They hosted an

00:31:21.700 event showcasing some of the young innovators who have some solutions to future energy, current and

00:31:29.660 future energy challenges. So we're really trying to showcase the value of innovation within the

00:31:37.160 energy sector and you know again i'll say energy in this case because one of the um one of the

00:31:45.720 innovators uh problem solvers she has a little company that recycles the great big um tires used

00:31:54.120 in mining equipment so that could be for oil cans it could be for um you know what what we think of

00:32:01.080 is more traditional mining like you know cobalt silver gold etc so so so so the message here is

00:32:08.260 positive you're you're spreading a positive message for for others we both i think are on

00:32:13.640 the same page our our industry is important our alberta's contribution to the world is important

00:32:18.980 have you had a chance to talk to people say in eastern canada are they shifting their thought

00:32:24.940 i mean i'm i'm looking over my shoulder here we're we're at the western standard we've been

00:32:28.380 making fun of of Stephen Gilboa who was like you know really into this net zero

00:32:33.360 and green future do you sense a shift did he leave on purpose because he was

00:32:39.240 sensing a shift or well I think why he left is probably multifaceted and I'm

00:32:46.140 not gonna pretend to be able to get into his mind yeah but I do think that there

00:32:50.400 is a shift towards what I'm calling energy realism okay so there's a there

00:32:56.280 There is a hard reality that when you are struggling to pay your bills, luxury considerations

00:33:06.260 or luxury beliefs like net zero go out the window.

00:33:10.540 And so having access to affordable, reliable energy becomes really important.

00:33:15.040 What did you call it?

00:33:16.040 Energy...

00:33:17.040 Realism.

00:33:18.040 Okay.

00:33:19.040 I like that because I use the same...

00:33:20.040 I'm losing my earpiece.

00:33:21.040 Actually, I don't think it matters.

00:33:22.040 I use the same sort of concept.

00:33:24.580 To me, ideology versus reality, at the end of the day, reality trumps a lot of things, right?

00:33:30.140 It does.

00:33:30.440 We can all be, yeah, sure, we'd all like to be saving the planet and whatever, doing solar.

00:33:41.280 But at the end of the day, you've got to drive your kids to soccer and your car that gets you there on gas is your reality.

00:33:51.600 Yeah, and I don't think that anybody in the oil and gas industry, or certainly no one I know,

00:33:55.980 is just like, you know, burn it all down, chop it all down, like, just destroy it.

00:34:00.460 I think most of us, I'm sure you agree with me, we're very conservation conscious.

00:34:06.700 We're environmental.

00:34:07.540 Like, we go out hiking.

00:34:08.840 We live in the environment that we work in. 0.97

00:34:12.140 I get called a hypocrite by my own community. 0.61

00:34:14.860 I'm in sort of two communities.

00:34:16.420 I'm in the oil and gas community, but I'm also in, like you mentioned,

00:34:20.780 i am in the hiking outdoor community and sometimes people will find that out that i work in the old

00:34:27.420 fashion they'll say you're a hypocrite i'm like no no no no no quite the contrary i acknowledge

00:34:32.140 that as a person i have an impact on the environment but i also want to minimize it 0.89

00:34:37.100 and enjoy the environment but at the same time i need to heat my house yeah absolutely and i think

00:34:44.460 if we want to go back to the careers and energy job report because i really actually think this

00:34:49.100 This is very important.

00:34:50.100 We have to encourage more young people to get into the industry.

00:34:53.920 It's getting older.

00:34:55.640 There are a number of expected retirees in the very near future.

00:35:02.040 They estimated about 54,000 people will retire out of the industry.

00:35:07.140 And so we need young people to come in.

00:35:09.260 And if oil and gas is demonized, those kids don't want to come work in the industry.

00:35:15.940 And so we have to make sure that we're presenting a fact-based, energy-realistic impression of the industry.

00:35:23.880 And there are good-paying jobs.

00:35:26.180 Those jobs pay basically, what is it, two and a half times.

00:35:30.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:30.700 So the data is out there, and we need...

00:35:34.640 I experienced that personally.

00:35:36.360 I have three sons that went into the oil patch.

00:35:38.960 That's excellent.

00:35:39.460 And they all told me the same story, that when they went in there early on,

00:35:43.260 there were people that told them they were making a mistake.

00:35:45.400 mm-hmm absolutely and then they graduated they work for CNRL they work

00:35:48.880 for other actually one doesn't work for CNRL one works for an adjacent industry

00:35:53.740 works for for the rail industry which is booming by the way because of well yeah

00:35:59.160 it it runs on oil and gas and so yeah are you brave enough to tackle some of my

00:36:08.020 other topics here or you want to talk about the the announcement yesterday

00:36:13.720 that they want to ban children under the age of 16 from accessing the internet?

00:36:21.580 I don't need to put you on the spot. Yeah, I have a lot of opinions on political

00:36:27.760 current affairs, but I try to stay focused on energy. I think if we can keep

00:36:32.600 that apolitical, non-partisan, you know, I think that's great. Let's go with Kuzma, give me your

00:36:38.860 stance on that? Did you see the Donald Trump sort of quick speech from the Oval Office where he was

00:36:45.180 saying he's not interested in renewing it? Well, he's been back and forth. Honestly,

00:36:50.460 I've sort of stopped paying minute by minute attention to it because I feel like it flip

00:36:57.260 flops quite regularly. I would like to see both sides work a little more collaboratively,

00:37:04.740 diplomatically there's a bit of egos at this point right like they're both yeah

00:37:12.300 it's gonna be I think in the best interest of both parties to come to some sort of mutual agreement and I mean you've worked in negotiations you know that you have to give and take oh well it's give and take or also the concept of win-win right I mean you know what's in it for me what's in it for you and we can find a common ground

00:37:34.740 But I, you know, I laugh at the people that are simply opposed to us doing business with the Americans at this point.

00:37:44.360 I think that's completely unrealistic, right?

00:37:48.020 Geographically, it just makes sense.

00:37:49.760 And it makes sense because they are a very large economy.

00:37:53.060 They are a very successful economy.

00:37:55.920 Yeah.

00:37:56.200 So part of our success is because of them.

00:38:00.100 It's mutual.

00:38:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:01.440 I mean, that's one comment that Trump makes all the time.

00:38:03.900 He made it again in the White House the other day.

00:38:07.360 He's upset about the trade imbalance and how it favors us.

00:38:10.880 But I think, I would say to Donald, it's pretty much going to favor us all the time.

00:38:15.660 I mean, you're 10 times larger than us.

00:38:17.300 So the odds of us buying less from you is just, you know.

00:38:24.340 Well, and I think if we just talk about oil and gas, I mean, I think they benefit from that as well.

00:38:30.180 Buying it cheaply, sometimes selling it back to us for more money.

00:38:33.620 I mean, so I think there's emotional rhetoric on both sides, and I would like to see it tamped down for the good of, you know, just the general good of both of our populations for the long run.

00:38:49.500 Now, maybe it doesn't get renegotiated, but my understanding is if it doesn't get renegotiated this year, there's still some sort of tenure window.

00:38:57.040 it's a weird it's a weird uh yeah the deal was signed in 2020 expires in 2036 so it's a 16-year

00:39:04.160 deal if we don't what what's happening on july 1st is an opportunity to renegotiate and extend it

00:39:12.000 if we don't renegotiate then it just it stays as is but the the wild card could be any party

00:39:20.560 Any of the three parties could opt out of it by giving a written notice kind of thing,

00:39:27.820 give a six-month notice, right?

00:39:30.300 And we don't know who gets into the White House next term, right?

00:39:34.240 I mean, it could be better, it could be worse.

00:39:36.740 We just don't know.

00:39:38.540 But again, I think there's a bit of realism that has to come into play here.

00:39:44.560 We have to accept that this is our largest trading partner,

00:39:47.620 and it's going to be for the 1st of the year.

00:39:49.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:49.740 Well thanks for joining me I got a couple of people here I think I mean my next topic is

00:40:00.600 guns unless you want to talk about guns you know nothing about guns all right folks yeah Mac are

00:40:06.720 you coming on for a few minutes awesome RID thank Deirdre thanks for it yeah you'll take care

00:40:19.740 I got a look at my watch. I don't have my prompter. We're good. We've got lots of time.

00:40:26.380 Maybe we'll do a 90-minute show today.

00:40:30.720 Mac, how's it going, man?

00:40:32.220 So Mac, I know, is a long-time listener. He's called in before.

00:40:36.780 John will just double-check, make sure you're in the shot, and everything's good.

00:40:40.300 We're all good, John.

00:40:41.680 So what brings you here, bud? Are you exhibiting?

00:40:44.220 No, no, no. I'm just here to network, meet people. It's for business.

00:40:48.520 But I had to come down and see you, Marty, because I tried calling in.

00:40:51.920 Didn't want to leave you hanging.

00:40:55.440 Give us a, without getting into huge detail, give us a background.

00:40:58.580 You're an Albertan.

00:40:59.400 You were familiar with the oil patch?

00:41:01.220 Born and raised in Alberta.

00:41:03.480 Grew up in St. Albert.

00:41:05.360 A lot of my friends went up to going through, mostly going through, Fox Vegas.

00:41:10.140 I know you were talking about that earlier, but that's what we called it.

00:41:12.960 Yeah.

00:41:13.220 We didn't call it Fox Vegas.

00:41:13.900 My wife thought I was joking, right? 0.52

00:41:16.500 My wife should have known better.

00:41:17.840 i met my wife in edson right which is just like an hour south of and and the first time i mentioned

00:41:23.240 fox vegas she's like nobody calls it that i'm like honey everybody calls it that me and all

00:41:28.440 my friends called it that yeah yeah because it's one strip it's it's a it's one of those towns

00:41:35.000 where if you spend enough time in the oil patch you will eventually do a bit of either you'll

00:41:40.780 live there or you will work there or or whatever or you'll have to drive through or you'll have to

00:41:45.340 drive through it right yeah yeah um yeah awesome awesome so uh all right well let's pretend we're

00:41:52.020 calling in i these are the topics i had right now oh man are you brave enough do you want well i'll

00:41:58.300 give you a choice you want to talk c9 or do you want to talk about the gun ban amnesty are you a

00:42:02.240 gun owner or not really your thing yeah i love guns okay i love guns i think it's i think that

00:42:08.240 bad things happen we talked about this actually bad things happen when governments take away guns

00:42:13.160 from legal gun owners and they don't do anything about the guns on the street that are actually

00:42:18.380 cards in harm. So are you familiar with what happened yesterday? Maybe you are, but I'll

00:42:23.840 repeat it for the folks listening. So starting in about 2022, there's been three different

00:42:31.760 orders in council banning various firearms. So basically AR-15, semi-automatics with large

00:42:42.480 capacity lots of guns have been banned and and as far as we know and I'm one of those guys I have

00:42:48.800 I have a banned firearm you know I uh full disclosure I don't care if there's they already

00:42:54.520 know about it right so the government knows I have this AR-15 but when they passed this order

00:42:58.600 in council they didn't tell us what to do with the guns they just said hold on to it keep it in

00:43:03.640 your locker can't use it anywhere okay so we've been complying with it and they also promised us

00:43:08.660 that at some point they would either buy them from us or compensate us for it but um but they

00:43:16.020 keep extending and and technically once the gun ban came into order if i still own this gun

00:43:23.940 i'm in violation of a law and in this case it's a federal law right so basically i'm a i'm a i'm

00:43:29.380 owning a not a a gun that's been banned but now so that's where the government passed the amnesty

00:43:36.420 they're like we're not going to prosecute you until we figure out what to do and they keep

00:43:41.420 extending the amnesty and extending it and yesterday the liberals extended it again and

00:43:47.200 this time they're extending it to this is weird but they're extended it to 90 days after the

00:43:53.720 supreme court hears a case on this so somebody's taken the federal government to court claiming

00:44:01.480 that the ban is illegal and i agree with it but the court won't be able to rule on that until

00:44:06.760 probably later next year so at this point the gut the liberals have like extended the ban i think

00:44:12.900 they should just cancel it kick the can down the road kind of like the referendum on independence

00:44:16.900 but in any case yeah it's it's maddening and it's maddening as a citizen to watch the incompetence

00:44:24.920 it just really is like we have smart people here in canada why don't they run for office

00:44:30.600 probably because they're not criminals probably because they have ethics probably because they

00:44:34.740 have morals probably because they have honor yeah but what do we get the people that lack all of

00:44:39.980 those things and that's who was i mean come on jolie give her an iq test please we had jolie

00:44:47.520 well we have this guy i know we can't see him right now he's turned around maybe somebody can

00:44:51.820 bring uh steven gilbo and put him behind us but yeah no it's i mean it's bad and that's there's

00:44:57.360 no there's no easy I mean I've been asked that question many times why don't you run for government

00:45:01.840 and my general sort of quirky answer is because I have a brain and because I have morals right

00:45:09.940 I find I find the business of politics distasteful these days but and there's been people who said

00:45:19.740 you know we should say hey steven how you doing buddy hey steve looking horrible up there apparently

00:45:26.860 apparently he doesn't like being uh mocked oh too bad yeah well you made your bed buddy well yeah

00:45:33.500 how do you how do you if you don't want to be mocked what would you say to a politician well

00:45:37.100 i would say don't be mockable don't be mockable do your job yeah be be smart be smart don't make

00:45:42.380 don't make lampoonish comments or else you're gonna get those exact words actually he doesn't

00:45:47.020 like being lampoon so too bad he deserves it he deserves more of it thought yourself of running

00:45:52.460 for politics small town easy to get in actually my i have family that had been in government

00:45:59.260 worked for i i have a stepmom who worked for five different premiers of alberta oh wow yeah so she

00:46:05.660 was right up there she found a family there do you think uh what would she uh five different

00:46:11.340 premiers were they a long long time ago like we also have t-shirts for ralph klein would ralph

00:46:15.900 have been one of those you know the last one that she worked for was well it wasn't a premier but it

00:46:21.340 was stockwell day on his national campaign oh okay yeah for prime minister no i made the

00:46:26.700 you're making me think of something uh we in alberta we've been tough on premiers for the last

00:46:32.140 two decades like very few premiers have ended a full term right i mean we basically uh uh ed

00:46:40.220 stelmac uh we had klein then we had ed stelmac stelmac barely did a term and then we're like

00:46:45.820 no you're done then he was replaced by allison redford we're like well that's an even bigger

00:46:49.820 mistake you're done i liked king ralph i did we all did i liked king ralph because he was a no

00:46:55.740 kind of guy yeah um i'm just well that's why he's that's why he's so well captured in that t-shirt

00:47:01.980 that t-shirt is uh what what is his famous quote uh essential alberton right there is ralph klein

00:47:07.740 yeah let them let those bombs i get i get in trouble i get in trouble for saying the same

00:47:13.180 thing ralph has said many times and we've all thought about this right we've all thought of 0.53

00:47:17.900 shutting down the valves and closing and letting those eastern bums freeze in the dark that's right

00:47:23.100 and i don't want to do it to hurt anyone right because it's not the population no it's the

00:47:28.460 government and i'll give you guys two weeks right you got two weeks go cut some firewood

00:47:33.100 go install your solar panels and then fair warning we're turning off the gas good luck staying warm

00:47:38.860 yeah just your solar energy and you'll be net zero so it's a bonus you win yeah you should be

00:47:43.740 you should be thanking us if we do that absolutely just like when we separate i mean you've got to be

00:47:48.220 celebrating the net zero look it's not alberta's fault anymore i didn't see a lot of net zero

00:47:53.660 around here did you tour a little bit i looked around they got carbon capture and they got

00:47:59.180 methane emissions and how to restrict it and how to anyways but i think it's all ridiculous it's so 0.99

00:48:05.340 stupid i mean every single country that has gone net zero lunacy has gone broke they're just 0.98

00:48:11.900 getting poor so for me the future of canada looks like poverty misery and corruption and the future 1.00

00:48:19.020 of alberta looks like happiness prosperity and abundance like that's what it looks like to me

00:48:25.100 very basic so i i i met you uh we've we've talked online but i met you at a uh petition signing

00:48:32.460 event which one was that that was that was the one on uh the blue mile by westbrook yeah yeah

00:48:36.700 so so blue miles are still going on there's uh sort of small uh variations on that are you

00:48:41.740 up to speed on the um on the um controversy in taber oh yeah i've donated as soon as he said

00:48:49.180 he was putting up a third billboard i sent him money okay and same with james levine as soon

00:48:53.260 as he said he was going to put billboards around the edmonton legislature i sent him money and you

00:48:57.980 know what that's how i'm going to support this movement and and also talk to anybody i can

00:49:02.940 about this is the vote of our lifetimes yeah and the first one that actually really would count

00:49:08.780 in our life because all of our federal votes didn't matter never did and never will i actually

00:49:15.660 got around to putting up an alberta flag on my property finally and uh at first i was like where

00:49:22.300 do i put it you know do i put it on the side do i put it closer to the back and then i'm like nope

00:49:27.180 nope nope nope if this event i don't think it'll offend anybody in my neighborhood but at the end

00:49:32.380 of the day i'm like if somebody is offended by the fact that i'm flying an alberta flag

00:49:35.740 then maybe it'll force a discussion so i ended um so i put it right on the front right on the

00:49:42.060 front corner by the mailbox absolutely i mean we got to be bold have courage in order to win this

00:49:49.900 thing i believe we need to be bold we have to have courage we have to have hard honest conversations

00:49:55.820 we don't have to be trying to cancel people like left us yeah listen i don't want it for me i want

00:50:02.540 it for you too yeah yeah did you see uh last week i was uh i went to bamf last week you've been to

00:50:08.380 bamf right when you drive to bamf you go by uh like this arc there's that little island by the

00:50:13.420 cement plant i went by there and uh there was no flag on it anymore so i just issued a challenge

00:50:19.580 and Andrew got up there pretty darn quick.

00:50:25.800 Somebody got up there and put out an Alberta flag,

00:50:27.760 but then I was disappointed to hear yesterday

00:50:29.480 that somebody went and put a Canadian flag,

00:50:33.160 but they took down the Alberta flag,

00:50:35.340 and there's no need to do that.

00:50:36.660 If somebody wanted to go put a second flag,

00:50:38.800 you could put the two up there.

00:50:40.000 You don't need to remove ours,

00:50:42.880 but we're going to see how this goes all summer long.

00:50:45.340 have a feeling i'm going to organize some more uh missions out there yeah i'm concerned with

00:50:51.340 getting tribal and with people remembering what canada once was which is nowhere near

00:50:58.540 what it is today i mean today we have we're looking at well not freedom and when it comes

00:51:06.380 to flags it's a little bit sad right i mean uh remember how proud we were during like the coots

00:51:11.660 protests and things like that we all had our canadian flags all of a sudden and i wish i could

00:51:16.180 still be proud of it like we were but um hey let's get off this topic i mean like you know where uh

00:51:22.660 what am i doing for time here i i got a few minutes but uh let's tackle one more because i've

00:51:27.380 got time to tackle it actually a lot of people wouldn't have talked about this one but did you

00:51:32.660 see trudeau on the news yesterday on the red carpet my red mile i did not see him on the red

00:51:37.800 okay then don't worry about it because uh some people are saying he's living his best life

00:51:42.200 well i'll tell you what he did i don't know um he he was on that he was at a festival somewhere

00:51:47.640 uh with his new girlfriend katie perry and then and then you know he's walking there

00:51:53.240 and and you can see him what a he's running his hand up and down her butt in public and people

00:52:00.440 are like well let him live the best years of his life i'm like you know what no i'm not going i'm 0.90

00:52:07.160 you know what the guy pretended to be claimed to be a feminist claimed all these things and now

00:52:12.120 he's doing that and plus he's still supposed to represent us even though he's retired and

00:52:18.600 i'm paying for his pension so maybe maybe smarten up and behave yeah well i would love to see no i

00:52:25.560 would love to see him in jail myself yeah i mean for what he did during covet i mean if we had

00:52:32.280 the top tier of our intelligence and rcmp leadership removed due to incompetence and

00:52:40.840 kowtowing to politicians i would like to see somebody up at the top there with a backbone and

00:52:46.600 go hey man what you did was illegal you're going to jail and we got to save an example of you

00:52:52.120 so that no other prime minister does this in the future if i'm sorry yeah yeah no i agree i mean

00:52:57.560 I mean, we haven't had a politician go to jail in this country in forever.

00:53:01.900 It's got to happen.

00:53:03.380 And if it was going to be one, I don't think it's Trudeau.

00:53:06.060 I mean, he probably deserves it more than anybody else.

00:53:09.000 But the guy is the Teflon Don, right?

00:53:10.500 Nothing sticks to him.

00:53:11.540 How many scandals did he get away with, Marty?

00:53:14.080 How did he do it?

00:53:15.060 All of them.

00:53:15.480 All of them.

00:53:16.180 But how?

00:53:16.960 I mean, I thought we lived in a country of law and order.

00:53:20.740 I mean, for me, the one that he got away with that always surprised me was,

00:53:25.180 remember that interview where um uh one of our veterans stood up and and and had the courage

00:53:31.260 to talk to trudeau and said you know i'm having to fight my government like the guy was a veteran

00:53:36.060 who i think had lost a leg right and then trudeau said you're asking for more than we oh the

00:53:41.900 veterans veterans i remember that and and i thought oh my god you just you just sewered yourself right

00:53:47.660 there right you just literally and nope it didn't even stick and then when that didn't stick to him

00:53:52.380 I was like, okay, well, nothing will stick to this guy.

00:53:54.980 And they're sending money all over the world?

00:53:57.300 I mean, for what?

00:53:59.220 Well, sending it all over the world and locally.

00:54:01.780 I mean, the Parliamentary Budget Officer released a report yesterday.

00:54:07.640 Actually, let's wrap it up with this.

00:54:11.200 Carney announced that he was all proud.

00:54:14.560 It's the FIFA World Cup, right, the Soccer World Cup.

00:54:16.980 There's going to be 13 games played in Canada.

00:54:18.800 I think it's like six in Vancouver and seven in Toronto.

00:54:22.380 The PBO said it's a billion bucks.

00:54:25.140 Ottawa's spending a billion bucks.

00:54:27.460 So on a per-game basis, we're spending $82 million.

00:54:31.860 I saw that number.

00:54:33.120 And you and I can't afford the tickets.

00:54:34.880 500 bucks a piece, I saw.

00:54:36.380 We can't afford the tickets.

00:54:37.520 Well, I'm going, number one, I'm only interested in hockey, baseball, and football.

00:54:42.240 So soccer's not my thing.

00:54:44.860 But even then, would you support, even though you love hockey,

00:54:49.160 would you let ottawa dump a billion dollars a year into hockey well no there's no return on that

00:54:55.640 yeah not for the country not for people there's no return if and if people are at the food banks

00:55:01.640 and lining up around the block and you're having to send out money on enhanced gst checks so people 0.95

00:55:07.880 can afford to eat they're rebranded right they're not even called gst checks anymore that's the

00:55:13.240 by the way i i it's at four o'clock it's already happening i wish i could go

00:55:18.520 and find out what the announcement is because at four o'clock today eastern time uh carney was

00:55:24.280 announcing a new um new measures to make food affordable for canadians i'm looking forward to

00:55:30.840 hear what that measure is i have a feeling it's going to be uh government malls government a crown

00:55:35.800 corporation called uh canada foods or something run in the same model as canada post we all know

00:55:41.640 how efficient that uh model was right uh uh listen uh mac thanks for joining man it's awesome

00:55:49.800 the clock is running out here how many minutes have i got uh five minutes okay yeah yeah cheers

00:55:57.480 didn't get a lot of calls but i think this format worked okay or did we get calls john and we just

00:56:02.200 didn't uh didn't take them uh nothing he was do you have a call now no you'll take the next call

00:56:11.160 if there's another call all right so let me just go real quick so uh talked about okay well let's

00:56:16.920 talk about the last one that was on my list of things to talk about um which was yesterday's

00:56:23.720 announcement a new bill in the house of commons we knew this one was coming right i think it's c

00:56:28.680 34 33 or 34 but uh mark miller the minister of uh i don't know if it's social services or

00:56:36.040 or whatever, announced that the Liberals are trying to,

00:56:40.300 okay, I'll finish that one real quick.

00:56:43.020 I got one last call on the line.

00:56:44.520 Go ahead, caller.

00:56:45.160 Where are you calling from, please?

00:56:50.240 I got one last call on the line.

00:56:51.980 Go ahead, caller.

00:56:53.040 I can't hear anything, John.

00:57:01.780 Try it again, caller.

00:57:02.820 hello go ahead yeah i can hear you hello yeah go ahead what's on your mind okay okay

00:57:15.780 okay fantastic so they put me back on okay okay so my question can you hear me yes

00:57:25.780 okay so my question is is the western standard are they financed by the government

00:57:32.820 No, no, no, no. I mean, Western Standard is a private, small news organization funded by, I mean, I have to be careful here.

00:57:49.800 Like almost any organization in this country, there are tax credit, there are things available to multiple businesses that any business can take advantage of.

00:58:01.260 But fundamentally, the Western Standard is subscriber-driven.

00:58:05.340 In fact, you can see it on the screen right there.

00:58:07.600 If people want to subscribe, it's $10 a month.

00:58:11.260 We're running a promo right now, $100 a month.

00:58:13.720 And if you do it right now, we'll send you, is it a T-shirt or a coffee mug?

00:58:19.800 coffee mug thanks for calling no all right thank you okay so um all right well i'm running out of

00:58:29.520 time i want maybe i'll bring this one up next week it'll be bigger news next week so the liberals

00:58:34.040 right now are are they're hell-bent on censorship right they're hell-bent on censorship and uh c9

00:58:41.340 all these other bills but the the newest one yesterday is c34 and they're going to try to ban

00:58:47.320 children under the age of 16 from having access to social media and they're of course are saying

00:58:53.380 it it's all for their security uh i think there's enough laws right now if a parent doesn't want

00:58:59.120 their kid on social media the parents have all the tools necessary to do it if you just ask um

00:59:05.060 anyways i i think this is a a a hidden attempt again at censorship and it's also a hidden attempt

00:59:13.920 at more digital uh ids right so if you're if you're forcing kids to if you're forcing people

00:59:23.840 under the age of c or over the age of 16 to identify so that they can access social media

00:59:29.620 you're basically forcing people adults to identify themselves so i don't like this law

00:59:34.360 and i also i wanted to add this one weird thing um the liberals in their own constitution you can

00:59:41.540 be a member of the Liberal Party if you're 14 years old. So 14 year old is good enough to be a

00:59:48.600 member of the Liberal Party, good enough to vote in their candidate nominations, good enough to

00:59:53.760 vote for the leader. If you're 14 years old and a member of the Liberal Party, you could have voted

00:59:58.220 for Carney in his leadership race. But now the Liberals want to say, no, you're not mature enough

01:00:03.500 to have access to social media. I think this is a, I don't think it'll go anywhere, but it does kind

01:00:09.040 of exposed that these these liberals are are for whatever reason they're hell

01:00:13.480 bent on censorship these days and I think we all know why all right cool so

01:00:18.580 I appreciate appreciate the invite from from the global energy show shout out to

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01:00:38.000 be back i imagine next week back in studio the week after that i won't be in studio i will miss

01:00:43.760 one week i'm going on that hike as many of you know but uh anyways thanks for joining me join

01:00:49.600 me again next week same time 1 p.m uh here at the western standard marty saying cheers have a great

01:00:54.840 weekend everyone

01:01:08.000 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - June 11, 2026

Liberals extend amnesty period for firearms ban

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