00:04:52.260whatever else you produce when you're done your TV duties.
00:04:54.380Yes, I do have a couple of things that I'm working on, including one, just looking at just double checking here, just looking into where things are at with the Fed's promise to shield employers from employees fighting back against the mandate. So we're going to get some details as to where that's at right now.
00:06:48.200especially when you find out how beneficial it can be for certain ailments and illnesses anxiety
00:06:55.480depression sleep issues things like that so uh morgan thanks for joining us today thank you so
00:07:01.320much for having me i really appreciate it yeah so let's start out with a little bit of background
00:07:08.200on marijuana in general cannabis in general yeah well i mean where to begin we're talking about a
00:07:14.680plant that has been used for medicinal purposes for millennia through all sorts of different
00:07:21.080cultures. We find evidence constantly through archaeology of it being used for medical purposes,
00:07:26.920for spiritual purposes as well. This is something that's been around for a very, very long time,
00:07:32.360and it's only around 1937 or so that the United States and other Western nations began imposing
00:07:39.880stricter prohibitions against it and you can get into the reasons why they did that there are many
00:07:47.160different ones certainly a lot of support from the pharmaceutical industry and the pulp and paper
00:07:53.160industry to keep cannabis and hemp and things within that family down that's they were very
00:08:01.080supportive of that but to give you an idea of how constant it been back it was back in colonial
00:08:06.360America, the Spanish mentions, many of them made it a requirement for farmers to grow hemp. We're
00:08:12.840talking here in the early 1600s, places like Virginia, Massachusetts, it was the way it was.
00:08:19.160And then it's only in the last century that we saw it get pushed down. So hemp is the plant.
00:08:25.720Yeah. There's the cannabis plant and hemp and marijuana are sort of within that family.
00:08:31.560right okay yeah so hemp is the it so okay yeah break break down the plant if you can oh lord
00:08:39.240yeah the plant can i say the part of what makes cannabis so amazing is the fact that it is so
00:08:45.720complex the amount of that of study that we have to do to even begin to understand it is extensive
00:08:54.520and we've lost a lot of time in the last hundred years that we could have spent studying it
00:08:59.800unfortunately uh hemp uh the biggest thing with that is that it lacks the thc aspect of
00:09:09.240cannabis that people relate to the high right so the thc is the is the chemical that creates the
00:09:16.600the feeling of a body high right exactly and it itself is broken down to several things uh you
00:09:22.520might have heard of things like delta 9 delta 8 thca thcb there's different kinds of it within
00:09:29.320the plant and in addition to that it has many things called terpenes flavonoids there's so
00:09:35.080many degrees of complexities to it now hemp lacks a lot of those extra complexities
00:09:42.200and it's those things that make medicinal marijuana so effective something called the
00:09:47.080entourage effect when you have for example just cbd a lot of people have heard about cbd the fact
00:09:53.560that it is without the body high and the mental high but it's found medicinally that when cbd is
00:10:01.000used in conjunction with bits of thc and other flavonoids we find far greater impact and effect
00:10:08.760from it medicinally okay towards what people need to do these it it's all working together to create
00:10:16.760this effect and that's something that we're just constantly trying to study and try to understand
00:10:21.400better right so with the with the difference between the CBD and the THC my understanding is
00:10:28.720that you can get products from the dispensaries that have say higher CBD lower THC or vice versa
00:10:38.080higher THC so so again the the CBD tends to contain more of the medicinal properties that I would say
00:10:46.960is something that is a common misconception that cbd is like this miracle element within cannabis
00:10:54.000and the rest of it is just sort of extras not true at all every aspect of it is medicinal in
00:11:00.480different ways okay thc for example binds with the receptors and it's a huge impact around things
00:11:06.240like pain mood uh it's been a huge help with things like multiple sclerosis parkins nausea glaucoma
00:11:14.640all of that comes down to the thc element now cbd is the element it helps a lot with anxiety
00:11:20.400chronic pain and particularly neuropathic pain that's the kind of pain that we see a lot more
00:11:26.080effect on the cbd whereas muscle-based pain and pains like that seem to respond better to the thc
00:11:34.320so it's it is complex and because there's such a variety of conditions and situations
00:11:40.720and different things within the plant that you would be able to use for different things.
00:11:45.020We're trying to figure it out to make it easier for people, particularly patients,
00:11:50.180to better dose and choose the cannabis of both the method of ingestion as well as the specific strains
00:11:57.840that they need that will be most effective for them because it does change from strain to strain.
00:12:03.120Mm hmm. So so for a person to be sort of educated, what's best for them for for, you know, whether you're dealing with an anxiety issue, whether you're dealing with insomnia, sleep issue, whether you're dealing with pain or something neurological, where do you go to get, you know, a good advice?
00:12:25.080I mean you you had mentioned you can't necessarily go to the dispensaries and ask them for their
00:12:32.040opinion or what what you should be taking what's the best yes um now obviously for purposes of
00:12:39.080regulations things like that here in Canada when you go to a recreational dispensary there are
00:12:43.800certain rules that they have to follow they are not licensed clinicians they're not doctors so
00:12:48.680they are not in a position to have you go in and go hey I can't sleep what is it that I can take
00:12:53.800that would be good they might at most be like well people tend to take an indica to fall asleep
00:13:00.280so something along those lines regulations are very strict regarding what they can and cannot
00:13:05.080say okay which is why i always suggest your best bet is to go to a cannabis clinician
00:13:10.360there are many different kinds around that you can get recommended to you can even especially
00:13:16.520with covid they've made them accessible via online meetings and things like that okay they'll be able
00:13:22.440to give you an idea of what to get but i will say that particularly for medical cannabis as it stands
00:13:29.480right now in the way the system is it's very much a personal journey it really is it's a lot of
00:13:36.360working with people talking to people who have experienced taking the plant talking to people
00:13:42.920who either on social media or doing a lot of your own research a lot of your own trying different
00:13:49.320things a lot of experimenting and as a result it can be a little bit more a little bit more
00:13:55.320a bit more of a process okay in order to find the medicinal cannabis that really hits it home for
00:14:01.240you but it also is what makes cannabis such a personal medication it is truly something that
00:14:08.920you end up tailoring to you and you end up discovering and going through that journey on
00:14:13.720your own it's something that everyone's journey is unique a little bit different yeah and everyone
00:14:19.240you know does respond to any kind of medicinal in their own personal way
00:14:24.320right and and speaking of that I mean cannabis has been used medicinally for a
00:14:29.140very long time you know it was it was sort of very regulated and I mean it's
00:14:34.800been prescribed for cancer people who are undergoing cancer issues you know
00:14:40.960chemo to to deal with the pain the the illness the sickness that comes from it
00:14:48.700So the medicinal use of cannabis is not new, it's just that now we have access to it as a general population without needing to have it prescribed, right?
00:15:01.980Because a lot of issues may not necessarily be, you know, life-altering, but people are struggling.
00:15:10.640I know for me personally, I struggle with insomnia often.
00:15:15.500So, so getting some, some help with sleeping and, and, you know, I, I don't really want to have to
00:15:22.160rely on sleeping pills. So, so things like that, but there's so many different ways to take it as
00:15:29.160well. Like there's, there's, there's edibles. I mean, again, just talking to the general public
00:15:34.600who hasn't really experienced much when it comes to cannabis use. I think a lot of people picture
00:15:42.280just somebody smoking and, you know, kind of looking like a peace dude. Yeah. Right. I mean,
00:15:48.720I think a lot of people, and that's the stigma that's, that's, uh, still surrounding it is that
00:15:53.720it's, it's a bunch of potheads sitting around smoking up. Right. So, so, um, yeah, like let's
00:15:59.240talk a little bit about getting around that stigma and, um, ways that people can, can access it,
00:16:06.440use it consume it absolutely uh well to start with in terms of how people consume it this is
00:16:13.800something that i'm really glad you brought up because i find a lot of people especially when
00:16:17.240they're first trying cannabis their instinct is to go to the edible okay because i think
00:16:23.000more and more people don't want to inhale smoke they want to avoid that aspect of it particularly
00:16:28.440when you have health problems the idea of smoking might be something that's intimidating to you
00:16:33.720also if you're younger and you're looking to start for the first time especially or it's just more
00:16:39.160appealing to eat a chocolate or a gummy and have an effect from that but i will say that the effect
00:16:45.320you get from edible is very different from the effect that you are going to get when you smoke
00:16:51.880it takes longer for it to kick in it lasts way longer it's harder to dose it's far easier to end
00:16:58.920up taking more thc then is probably advisable and this is the thing is that you're not going to
00:17:06.920overdose on cannabis you're you're not at all but especially when it comes to edibles you can have
00:17:13.240something called greening out where you have too much thc in your body and your mind just sort of
00:17:19.080it has a bit of a panic and the best thing way to get through that is to sleep and that's why with
00:17:24.600edibles you want to and with all cannabis start low go slow that is your best bet especially when
00:17:32.840you're starting out start low go slow it might feel strange to just take a little puff or even
00:17:38.920eat half of a gummy and you might be sitting there going that's supposed to do something
00:17:43.800especially when you're starting out and learning it that is the best way to do it other options
00:17:50.600from edibles and smoking i know there are a few others i know that um there are some some sprays
00:17:57.880oh yeah we have uh tinctures uh which are oils and those are put in a lot of different ways
00:18:02.920a very common way is under the tongue another common way is like you said a spray or another
00:18:08.600more popular way that is gaining traction is i don't know if you've seen those thin mint strips
00:18:13.880for freshening your breath it's basically that but it's cannabis okay and you put on your tongue
00:18:19.240in itself uh the oil is a way that they're definitely looking at more and more medicinally
00:18:25.640because oil seems like something that's easier to uh prescribe to someone than saying you know
00:18:34.440dry flour right you know take three hoots and see me in the morning right yeah it's a little
00:18:40.280bit harder to describe how you should take it whereas with oil you can say certain percentages
00:18:45.800and then tell them certain milliliters and it keeps it a little more controlled so that is a
00:18:51.240way that definitely cannabis clinicians seem to lean towards and like i said they have different
00:18:58.600amounts of time things like oil things like edibles can take anywhere from 30 minutes to
00:19:03.080two hours to kick in whereas with the smoke it's minutes and the other thing is the length of time
00:19:10.760an oil and edible you're looking at six to eight hours and afterwards not a hangover but you still
00:19:18.040have a bit of lingering feeling whereas with smoking you're looking at a few hours at most
00:19:23.400before you come back down which allows a lot of people to have sort of greater control
00:19:27.880of especially when you have pain issues you're able to greater control that yeah and and you're
00:19:33.560able to yeah make it more specific to particular time things like that okay now coming from
00:19:41.720somebody who doesn't smoke so I would I would likely be not interested in in the smoke side
00:19:51.080of things now what about do I do I understand correctly that it can be used with vaping like
00:19:57.560vape absolutely yeah so yeah no vape is popular and if there's even been some times where perhaps
00:20:03.620you've heard some warnings about uh vape problems with cannabis so far all of the research and
00:20:12.100everything that's been done into that has shown that those were vape cartridges that were bought
00:20:16.380from the illicit market so far there have not been issues with the legal market and vaping and dry
00:20:23.560product and things like that that and that is very important to point out it's a big reason
00:20:28.760why moving cannabis over to a legal market is so important there are no regulations in the illicit
00:20:35.720market and you might trust a dealer you might trust someone who gets you that but there is
00:20:42.040that oversight is what allows for greater consistency and that is so key especially with
00:20:49.080medical cannabis you don't want a situation like for example with pharmaceuticals when i get a
00:20:55.000bottle of pills i know the next bottle of pills i get we'll have the same strength we'll have the
00:20:59.160same results we'll all that with cannabis from one bud to the next it's a little more
00:21:07.640unsure which is why consistency is such a milestone within the production world for
00:21:15.480cannabis it's and it's why high ground which is the cannabis production company that i'm working
00:21:20.600with is focusing on growing product uh via aeroponics which is a far more controlled medium
00:21:28.360over say outdoor growing or soil and pot growing okay so why don't we like talk just a little bit
00:21:34.520about the difference between the the sort of underground um gray market the gray market
00:21:41.720and uh and then the the legal dispensers um is there a big price difference like fill me in a
00:21:50.120little bit on the difference between the two certainly from the beginning price was the bigger
00:21:55.080uh issue as was supply when the first when the uh and by that i mean the legal markets supply
00:22:02.040and everything that was a problem at first but we're finding as the years go by as the kinks
00:22:07.720are ironed out and we get used to it we're seeing that go down more and more now while prices
00:22:13.160remain slightly higher for sort of the highest quality and the lowest quality cannabis
00:22:19.640it remains slightly higher in the legal market than in the illicit we've now seen a move from
00:22:24.280the mid market which is by far the largest one to be less expensive domestically and in the legal
00:22:31.400market than it is in the gray and illicit market that is a huge move because mid mid-level is where
00:22:39.360the vast bulk of people are that's what does that mean mid-level uh like mid-level in terms of
00:22:45.200quality you have uh different companies great again this is something that the cannabis industry
00:22:51.580is trying to sort out which is how are we going to grade it how are we going to measure quality
00:22:56.660things like that right now they're using a system that was sort of used in the past in the illicit
00:23:03.140market which is a double a triple a quadruple a okay the more a's the better the better quality
00:23:09.300it is the better uh usually the larger the bud um it has more what's called trichomes those are the
00:23:16.420things that you want uh in order to get the effects that you're looking for uh you don't want
00:23:22.180a product that's overly dried out there's so many different factors to cannabis that would get
00:23:27.940considered and with the higher quality quadruple a and the lowest quality 1a they're about
00:23:35.940comparable maybe slightly more for the uh legal market but the main difference there uh to me
00:23:45.380is that the legal market also has consistency yeah and it also has a reliability there
00:23:52.420that's not to say that there haven't been issues with the legal market and some bad actors
00:23:58.020unfortunately find me an industry that you're not going to deal with that um but what's been amazing
00:24:03.940about the cannabis industry is how dedicated so many people are to the actual product to what it
00:24:13.540it can do all of its potential they love it and they admire and respect it and those are the
00:24:20.800people in the industry who we're seeing doing better and better and rise up and that's what
00:24:25.680we want we're and it's what the customers want to there are a lot of reasons people take cannabis
00:24:34.960and the THC and the CBD and you know all of it there are a lot of different things that it treats
00:24:41.580um a lot of different reasons let's um let's talk about some of that let's go into the
00:24:46.300absolutely for sure there are some conditions more than others that are leading the pack
00:24:52.860in terms of cannabis's ability to treat them and as i pointed out earlier when we were talking
00:25:01.500it's been used for medicine for millennia and usually for the same stuff trouble sleeping
00:25:06.620stomach problems nausea things like ms parkinson's chronic pain neuropathic pain cannabis has been
00:25:16.860prescribed and used by people for centuries and centuries and now the studies that they're
00:25:24.540actually doing now that they legally can because it's important to remember that cannabis was next
00:25:30.860to heroin as the only two drugs that were classified together in terms of danger by the
00:25:37.620CDC in the United States. The idea for anyone, I think, who's tried cannabis that those two would
00:25:45.360be compared to each other, let alone be grouped together, is absolutely ridiculous. You see the
00:25:51.380benefits of, and we're seeing now that it's not just, you know, in people's minds. There is
00:25:58.400legitimately improvements. Very recently, for example, with cancer, it's more than just how
00:26:05.800it helps with nausea and with the pain of cancer. They're finding that CBD in particular seems to
00:26:12.960actually affect the cancer cells. Recently in Petri dish, focusing on breast cancer cells,
00:26:20.820it directly shrunk them and affected them in a positive way where it was able to that is huge
00:26:29.300and it's something that um to to be a little personal here uh both of my parents had cancer
00:26:36.840and both of them used cannabis uh this is before it was legal here and so i guess i'm outing them
00:26:44.500but um i will say that i saw them get pumped full of every kind of pharmaceutical you can imagine
00:26:51.940and the only thing that made them able to eat that made them able to sleep was marijuana of
00:26:57.860evolved a plant that grows in there's places like bhutan china where it's a weed it grows so
00:27:03.380commonly on the side of the road right you're constantly feeding it to cows and trying to get
00:27:08.180rid of it this is a plant that's just out there and available and the fact that it's been there
00:27:13.700and available for so long for so many different conditions is it's frustrating we're doing better
00:27:21.700now but everything is pointing towards it being a big help a big thing especially is epilepsy
00:27:31.060and particularly with cbd it's cbd has now been recognized by who and by other international
00:27:38.180entities as a non it doesn't mess with your head not like thc so it's not an intoxicating thing
00:27:45.780cbd is the one that really seems to hit hard with epilepsy and it's the one you might have
00:27:52.380seen stories about say on cnn uh dr gupta has been doing an ongoing series called weed which
00:27:58.780i do recommend checking out and he visited with a lovely very young girl named charlotte
00:28:04.320who had a very specific strain of cannabis made for her it's called charlotte's web and it was
00:28:11.280very high in cbd your pick your typical cbd content in cannabis is usually like one percent
00:28:17.840okay it's low to get high and most people aren't as interested in it because it doesn't give you
00:28:23.500the high right so why would you want to be on it this is why this is why you want to be on it and
00:28:29.300very tragically, she actually passed very early in the COVID epidemic from COVID, she caught it.
00:28:35.040And she was just a child. But her legacy is the fact that she the videos of just these children
00:28:43.460getting a couple of drops of CBD oil, they're shaking uncontrollably in so much pain. And it
00:28:49.780just melts away. It's a miracle to watch. It's amazing to watch their videos, I cannot recommend
00:28:56.120them enough just because to see it it feels surreal that this is just here and how it can be
00:29:02.760illegal when it's obviously showing these great moves forward for these conditions
00:29:10.200and the other thing i think it's truly going to be helping more and more with is seniors and women
00:29:16.680okay the fact that thc and cbd working together in particular are huge helps to things like
00:29:22.360endometriosis, which is a big problem for a lot of women. It is being found not just through
00:29:29.320studies and clinically, but also of course, through many, many people's personal experiences,
00:29:34.120just how incredibly effective it is at helping things like endometriosis, like chronic pain,
00:29:40.520which women are, in terms of patients, it's something like three and four for chronic pain
00:29:45.880sufferers are women it's far more common for women and it is a huge helper in those fields it's and
00:29:53.560it's a medication that i think a lot of people like you said have sort of the yo dude that's the
00:30:00.360sort of thing that they imagine yeah we all went to high school we all had the stoners in the class
00:30:06.200and that's what we have in our heads right i will say for myself i didn't smart uh smart start
00:30:11.400smoking cannabis until i was in my mid-20s i didn't even try it before then i wasn't interested
00:30:16.520and didn't start using it regularly for my own medical purposes until my mid-30s and
00:30:23.320i have been on every pharmaceutical under the sun in good old oxy
00:30:28.680off all of them off all of them and the fact that i am that i am functional is just a miracle and
00:30:35.720it's something that for women more and more i think we're going to see them coming to this
00:30:40.440because it's a plant that it's a medication that allows you to continue to function and i know
00:30:46.600this sounds sort of hippie-ish but it helps you find yourself it manages to both silence your mind
00:30:54.360and engage your mind at the same time and that's why i think a lot of people also have such a
00:30:59.640personal relationship with marijuana once they start using it regularly and and find out what
00:31:04.680works exactly for them so do you mind sharing what how it helped you like what for sure um i suffer
00:31:11.160from uh several pain conditions i have chronic pain uh caused by nerve issues from a trauma and
00:31:17.400i also have scoliosis which is a fun condition where your spine twists and turns and makes it
00:31:25.640difficult to function it's painful and uh even just a few years ago i was so bad that i was
00:31:33.400essentially bedridden. I couldn't move. I had friends who were concerned that I was going to
00:31:40.920be going all the way downhill. And on top of that, with that constant physical pain,
00:31:45.480as anyone who has chronic pain can tell you, comes the emotional and mental issues that go
00:31:51.400so hand in hand with it. And so you end up, it just snowballs and snowballs. And the doctors
00:31:57.320were piling medication at me, doing everything they can. I turned to medical cannabis because it
00:32:02.200was just sort of it was legalizing it was becoming new it was becoming promoted and the first few
00:32:09.000times i tried it for that i will admit that it more just put me to sleep than anything else which
00:32:15.160i think is a very common thing with cannabis again it's the start low go slow if you take too much
00:32:20.200more most likely you're just gonna sleep right pass out exactly which is why it's good for sleep
00:32:25.240well yeah i was gonna say which might be uh very attractive to quite a few people watching
00:32:29.320it's why some people do it there's a lot of people who have sleep issues absolutely cannabis for
00:32:34.440sleep and uh here's a little trick by the way because some people talk about indica versus
00:32:38.680sativa which one is the relaxing one where yeah let's which one let's talk about that let's yeah
00:32:43.320yeah so what are the two things you just named there indica and sativa they're sort of the two
00:32:49.560families of marijuana the types of plant that you can get they look slightly different the biggest
00:32:55.560thing is that sativa tends to be more energizing and indica tends to be more soothing now as time
00:33:01.560goes by and people do what people do which is genetically mixed things that's becoming it's
00:33:08.120becoming less and less of a thing it's becoming more and more hybrid okay pretty much all the way
00:33:12.360across the board the way i i have a little trick to remember it is indica puts you in bed because
00:33:18.520it knocks you out and then sativa is just the other one that's sort of how i recall it okay
00:33:24.520So you will basically have a different experience, whichever one you're taking.
00:33:51.100These are the things that give cannabis its taste, its smell, and it's also, the more we study, seem to be the elements of it that when it works, they work in conjunction with the THC and CBD elements, are what specifically help certain things.
00:34:09.320For example, I'll give you an example of one. I'm just trying to think of a popular one,
00:34:19.220myercene. Okay. Probably a more popular one. It's very sweet. Myercene is a terpene you find,
00:34:25.260and terpenes are found in all plants, by the way, not just cannabis. Okay. You'll find myercene in
00:34:29.480mangoes, for example. But it very specifically seems to help with inflammation. And then you
00:34:36.580have something like carefully, that's spicy, peppery, you'll find that in things like cloves
00:34:41.980and oregano. When that's a heavy terpene, things like colitis, diabetes, anxiety, liver function,
00:34:49.600for some reason seems to be greater affected, more greatly affected by that specific terpene.
00:34:56.100Okay. So the end when I sit like terpenes, I'd love to list them for you. But so far,
00:35:01.940we've identified over 150 of them okay so there's a lot there's a lot I don't
00:35:07.760think anyone needs to go through that but now now you were saying that when
00:35:11.760you go to the the dispensaries they will have an idea of these different things
00:35:20.200but they can't they can't recommend recommend medically but will somebody be
00:35:26.100there to discuss with you like absolutely they'll talk to you their
00:35:30.400best thing that they can do with you is share with you the experiences of the other customers.
00:35:36.400And this is if you go to a dispensary that's specifically recreational. A medical dispensary
00:35:42.260is in a different situation. They can give you more specific. And I always, always recommend
00:35:47.580before you start any kind of medical therapy or treatment program, always talk to your doctor
00:35:52.760first. Get an idea because especially if you're going to be mixing this with other medications,
00:35:58.060you want to know what you're getting into, and you want to make sure you're not going to have
00:36:01.300any sort of negative side effects that are going to impact your experience and impact the cannabis's
00:36:07.840ability to do what it has to do for you. But I'd be curious to ask you, though,
00:36:13.740the average family doctor, what is their opinion going to be? Again, I think that, you know,
00:36:20.200like, it's kind of this, yeah, right? Like, I'm thinking about my family doctor. I've never
00:36:25.740discussed this with him before, but I'm wondering, are people going to have doctors that are going
00:36:31.800to say, no, no, no, stay away from that. That's, that's not good for you. Like, because I know,
00:36:37.020you know, there are a lot of doctors who are still very, very much part of the pharmaceutical
00:36:43.840as the remedy, the pharmaceutical companies. It's what they know. It's what they've been
00:36:50.920trained on right so so i mean are you what what we're getting better we're getting there um a big
00:36:59.240thing with cannabis as it becomes legalized is ongoing education and that's going to come from
00:37:05.640people in the industry from activists from people who use it it's going to take all that because we
00:37:10.840are dealing with a century of propaganda and misinformation that we are trying to tear down
00:37:16.840and rip off and get to the seeds of the actual truth. Now, a lot of doctors, particularly if
00:37:22.600you have, if your medical professional works with a more holistic thing, and by that, I don't mean
00:37:28.600like, you know, holy stuff. I mean, as in the whole body, mental health, different people.
00:37:35.740Like acupuncture. Exactly. They're more holistic. They see the benefits of that. I've been very
00:37:42.220lucky that, for example, my doctor, when I told him I was looking at medical cannabis, his reaction
00:37:47.540was great. Go for it. Do your thing. Keep me updated. Other people, they're going to have
00:37:52.860people, they might have a doctor who does not feel the same way. And there are still doctors
00:37:57.140out there who feel very strongly about it. And we are getting there and we're getting better and
00:38:01.640better. The other thing is a lot of doctors, they don't feel comfortable recommending something
00:38:05.980unless the science proves it like there is scientific hard evidence right now with cannabis
00:38:12.700they haven't been studying it long enough to have what they would decree a comprehensive enough
00:38:19.940study and solid answer to feel comfortable that that's why a cannabis clinician is different that
00:38:27.540is someone who is a doctor but they specialize in cannabis they understand what it is they know what
00:38:33.340it is. And strangely, we talked before about the illicit market. A lot of the people in the
00:38:40.060industry are coming from that world, of course, because they were activists. They supported it.
00:38:45.720These are the people who knew what this plant was capable of before the rest of us got on the
00:38:51.520trolley, right? So they have a lot of knowledge and information. I usually recommend as well,
00:38:58.660there are some online sources, for example, Leafly, L-E-A-F-L-Y, and they do a fantastic job
00:39:06.780in terms of educating, providing really readable and understandable resources for people to get
00:39:14.800to better know the plant and understand it a little more before they say, go off and start
00:39:21.460using it. So Leafly is a website that people can go to. And yeah, like I would, I would suggest
00:39:28.400even just for me if I if I were going to be trying something I would let my doctor know
00:39:34.480just so that they know what you are sort of diving into whether they agree with it or not
00:39:40.500or recommend it or not but also do the research right there I think that um do your research I
00:39:47.220know I was always I was just uh reading an article today about um you know a new uh formulation that
00:39:55.100has been put together. And people from the shark tank have invested in with this doctor who's come
00:40:01.760up with a new formulation that's supposed to be incredible for for chronic pain and whatnot. So
00:40:07.020yeah, I would say there's there's probably a lot of resources that people can dive into to get some
00:40:13.760some more information because I, you know, the more I hear about it, and and I know a lot of
00:40:20.320people who are, who have suffered chronic pain. I know a lot of people who deal with insomnia
00:40:26.520and, and neurological issues more and more. It just seems to be affecting so many people nowadays.
00:40:34.520And I have spoken with people who have really benefited from, from, you know, going off of
00:40:42.860the pharmaceuticals that they were taking to try to just bandaid the issue, right? Just try to,
00:40:48.260try to numb the pain rather than than dealing with it a little bit more holistically and and
00:40:54.640have had great success so so I find it quite an interest for me to dig into it and I know there's
00:41:02.340a lot of other people that are you know but but I'm gonna be like I'll tell you my experience I
00:41:07.200I felt really strange because I went into a dispensary I think this was a couple of months
00:41:12.880ago uh again just more so looking for something to help me sleep right um you know just for those
00:41:20.880times where you just can't shut it down and and you need help with sleeping and it was interesting
00:41:26.640when i went in because i kind of felt like uh well at first strangely i felt like i was doing
00:41:33.280something wrong i felt like i sort of had to explain oh i'm only here because i have sleep
00:41:37.120you know, sleep issues, right? And I think nothing wrong with using cannabis just for fun, by the
00:41:42.660way. Right, right. Well, and it is, it is, is legal, but I mean, for somebody who's, who's never
00:41:47.880really dove into it, uh, in, in any way, uh, you know, and then, so I was asking the dispenser,
00:41:57.040um, quite a few questions about, you know, what he suggested and, and I felt like I had to keep
00:42:01.760saying, I'm, I don't, I don't want to get high. I'm not here to get high. You know, I felt like
00:42:06.380you know and this is a reflection of me really but um but it was interesting and he was very
00:42:12.800informative um very helpful very friendly I didn't feel like yeah you know by the end by the time I
00:42:20.620left I felt like I had been well advised um I felt like you know I didn't feel the need to need to
00:42:28.100explain my intentions or my the reasons I was there and yeah I so you know I
00:42:36.980guess I just want to say that for people who are also hearing of these great
00:42:42.260benefits but but really feeling like there's still that big divider between
00:42:47.600them and actually you know stepping into this world to get more information well
00:42:54.860think about it since since we were children we've been hearing pot is bad pot is that you smoke pot
00:43:00.860you're gonna become a terrorist and a heroin addict and yeah is it like and and it's a gateway drug
00:43:06.940it's a gateway drug and so like my whole life yeah i'm a good girl i wanted to i didn't do
00:43:13.740marijuana because it's illegal it's against the law like you can't do that it's bad it's evil
00:43:18.860and to get over that it's been grilled into our brains and it's very hard to push it back but
00:43:28.220it's only once you're using it and it's one of those things more and more the more and more i
00:43:32.620talk to people about it the more and more you realize how many people are doing it and plus
00:43:38.140have been using it for a very long time on the down low quietly to help these things sort of
00:43:45.820almost like ashamed. And that is so sad for me that I've often said that you don't need to be
00:43:53.300dying to lose your life. And chronic conditions, particularly chronic pain conditions, anything
00:44:01.740that's neurodegenerative, those things rob you of your life while you're living. And that is
00:44:10.240an incredibly difficult thing to exist with in a lot of different ways. And the fact that cannabis,
00:44:18.260not just through so far all the studies that we've seen, but anecdotally, overwhelmingly
00:44:24.520shows results is a huge thing. And that's why I think that it should be promoted,
00:44:31.820not just for individual humans to get their lives back, but the amount of people who are on
00:44:36.360workers compensation who are off work who are older and suffering because of having these chronic
00:44:43.560conditions is absolutely massive and if cannabis can bring that number down that is a huge saving
00:44:50.040to the government it's a huge saving to insurance and that is a winner for everyone right now in
00:44:55.720canada despite the fact that cannabis is legal it's still not covered by insurance companies
00:45:01.720and so it's coming out of people's pockets it's not the most expensive medication you could get
00:45:08.200but it's also not the cheapest and accessibility for cannabis goes beyond just legalization it goes
00:45:15.840to your ability to actually get it it goes to your ability to afford it and it being an actually
00:45:21.960accessible medication for you and so whenever you regulate cannabis unfortunately what they've done
00:45:28.320here, which is just go, okay, it's legal. And they, they didn't put a lot of the things that
00:45:34.580the education and the stuff they needed in line in order to sort of helpfully roll it out. And
00:45:39.780we're sort of slowly starting to make progress there. Canada's really being watched by the world
00:45:44.820to go, what happens? What doesn't? What can we do moving forward? Certainly Europe, particularly
00:45:51.000Germany and countries like that are looking at legalization and watching Canada very closely
00:45:56.300to see what we're doing right and wrong. Right. And I think a lot of people felt that way too
00:46:01.400when this was being debated, you know, whether we should legalize it or not. A lot of people
00:46:06.580thought, well, our country's just going to run downhill. As soon as people have access to this
00:46:12.520legally, we're just going to go downhill as a society. And, you know, again, that comes from
00:46:19.860the narrative and the stigma that's been around it for a long time. But, you know, we're even
00:46:23.900talking about like like talking about debilitating issues you know we talk chronic pain we talk
00:46:30.480physical but let's talk like mental i mean i mean we've just we've just come through two years of a
00:46:35.740pandemic the the amount of um mental stress and anxiety that people have been dealing with over
00:46:43.260this pandemic absolutely has i mean it's it's grown the mental health uh issue mental health
00:46:50.760struggles exponentially. So, you know, and, and from the research I've done, cannabis helps with
00:47:00.920anxiety against sleep issues, right? Of course, we've talked about that, but, but, but the
00:47:05.800potential for it to be helping with depression, anxiety, mood disorders, issues there. I mean,
00:47:12.340we're talking, we're talking about, you know, again, just getting people back to a normal
00:47:17.160where they can be functioning they can be contributing in society i mean that to me sounds
00:47:24.520beneficial absolutely and there's also huge movements particularly in veterans affairs
00:47:31.480to legalize cannabis for ptsd the fact that it is not legal in the united states when you say
00:47:38.440legalize it for ptsd are you talking about um actually in that case i was talking about america
00:47:42.760because in america it is still federally illegal right um but also in in canada they're talking
00:47:49.720about how can we provide this like they don't have to pay for it it's given to them because of how
00:47:56.600effective it has shown to be with ptsd and anxiety by far the most common mental health struggle that
00:48:05.480people uh deal with there are so many different elements of the cannabis plant that seem to help
00:48:11.160with anxiety that it's absolutely that there's they're struggling to figure out which ones are
00:48:16.600the best because all of them seem to be working in tandem to have this fantastic effect on uh
00:48:24.200relaxing anxiety and i i won't act like if you don't smoke the wrong strain you can't get
00:48:29.320a little more actually anxious yeah again it comes down to proper strains and knowing what
00:48:34.840you're taking in when to take it but mental health in general we're seeing it get more and more
00:48:42.440attention good as time goes by it's something that we're going to be working with and this is
00:48:47.800why cannabis is such an extraordinary thing because this is something that's not only showing
00:48:53.400that it makes significant improvement to your physical health but to your mental health your
00:48:58.920emotional health and strangely your spiritual health i have yet to meet the person from the
00:49:05.400heart like i've known people who are the biggest you know ah spiritual nonsense stuff like that
00:49:12.840even they have that experience it's almost like you can't not have
00:49:19.560a profound experience the more you consume cannabis and the more that you adapt to it and
00:49:25.240And it's something that it's very hard to describe
00:57:04.320And once we have studies done, then we'll be able to more specifically say this does this.
00:57:11.220This does help ADHD as it stands right now.
00:57:14.620Without those studies, all we can say are that studies suggest it, that anecdotally people have good results because we don't have final peer-reviewed studies yet.
00:57:33.960like studies take time unfortunately and they can change regarding what you're looking at and
00:57:40.440what you think works what you think doesn't but so far the studies that are coming out it's all
00:57:46.600good it's all positive and it's all supporting very much the anecdotal things we've been hearing
00:57:52.520for years from people who have been partaking right okay uh and for someone who's a little green
00:57:58.360Mm-hmm. No pun intended. Oh my, the cannabis puns, let me tell you. I was trying to be very punny. Always. Every, I don't think people can do a cannabis headline without involving a pun. I don't think you can. No, that's true. That's true. So yes, for someone who doesn't know a ton about how it's been legalized, can you grow it? Can you personally grow an amount for yourself? You can. In Canada. In Canada. And this is, I can't stress this enough.0.70
00:58:26.440everywhere you go be check the rules check the rules and for the love of god do not take cannabis
00:58:32.720with you to another country yeah don't travel you can't do that canada we are a lone island in the
00:58:39.500world of legalization there are certain states in the u.s where it's legal again the u.s is not
00:58:44.800federally legal you cannot take cannabis across borders you cannot stress this enough be very
00:58:50.160careful with how you transport it um uh but but are there limits to how much you can grow
00:58:56.060Yeah, there are. There are usually limits on numbers of plants, and it'll change from place to place. You can find that information fairly easily. That's one of the biggest things that for people who do use medical cannabis, the ability to grow your own is huge.
00:59:16.340being able to have fresh plant right off the right off the stem trichome full like just and it it
00:59:26.580hasn't been sitting on a shelf for months it's ready to go that fresh plant that it's so much
00:59:31.540power over your own health and so a lot of people engage in it and like it's taking that very
00:59:38.900personal relationship you kind of end up with with cannabis to the next level right where you're
00:59:43.780actually growing it and funding it and i will say though cannabis is a picky picky plant she's tough
00:59:51.780she ever tried to grow it oh i would not i kill cacti i am not going to i i'm not a plant murderer
01:00:00.060i love it too much to kill it yeah well i love plants i don't know if i would dive into trying
01:00:04.640to grow a marijuana plant maybe just as an experiment to see if i could yeah and it is
01:00:09.540definitely doable uh it it there's different ways of growing it and again a lot of experimentation
01:00:16.440but cannabis has been around for so long the information is out there people who know how
01:00:23.740to do this stuff the communities they form very much online uh twitter has a great uh cannabis
01:00:29.960community linkedin particularly for cannabis industry fantastic place to go to find the
01:00:37.360latest on scientific studies, on industry changes, on regulations. There are great sources like MG Biz
01:00:45.260Daily. They are an excellent journalistic source for all news cannabis internationally, and they
01:00:53.320have some fantastic people around the world doing great work there as well. The information is there
01:00:59.000and the best thing I think about people who love cannabis, they love it so much they love to talk
01:01:04.880about it if you go up to someone who loves pod and say hey tell me more about it you're going to
01:01:10.440get what you got which is me basically babbling endlessly about it because it's just you love it
01:01:16.520so much and you want more people to understand it better to be better educated about it to have a
01:01:23.400fuller understanding of what it actually is you want to support people and you want to give them
01:01:29.480that information and a lot of people in the community feel the same way I think yeah and
01:01:33.440and to get past the stigma oh so much so much and there's definitely a lot of people in the
01:01:39.600community who live that stereotype this donor stereotype you know and i love them they're
01:01:45.920they're the sweetest people they're so freaking nice like i you'd always hear about how toxic
01:01:51.520twitter is not cannabis twitter cannabis twitter is as chill as you can be so these people to reach
01:01:59.280out to them if you're curious go anywhere finding them reach out go hey i'm interested in getting
01:02:04.560involved you'll be off to the races they want to talk to you they want to kill that stigma they
01:02:10.720want you to see it for what it really is and the more people use it the less and less that will be
01:02:16.000the stigma like i don't think i really come across as uh no peace love type but i use cannabis quite
01:02:23.520chronically for both medical reasons but also for recreational i like i don't have a glass of wine
01:02:30.000i have a joint and it's well it's interesting that you say that because i feel like
01:02:36.960saying that it you know even just hearing it there's still stigma right like i have a joint
01:02:42.320sounds it's different but i'm gonna go home on a friday and have half a bottle of wine most people
01:02:48.880would be like hallelujah yeah and people will tell you uh like they drink they get in fights
01:02:54.880they get in arguments they make bad decisions the worst thing i do when i smoke pot is eat too many
01:02:59.840cookies this like you're the anger the negative effects that alcohol has on your body on your
01:03:07.520mind on everything like it's not even comparable the like the idea to me that cannabis is illegal
01:03:16.160while alcohol is not just legal encouraged fetishized enjoyed like i like alcohol too
01:03:23.360but they're so night and day and in terms of the damage they would cause it's naughty cannabis is
01:03:30.320just miles ahead in terms of that and yet no one thinks twice about being like yeah i go home and
01:03:36.320have a six pack right that's a lot of beer but i say i have a joint and people sort of oh really
01:03:43.120weird it's like yeah and then i watch a movie like it's nothing that exciting or crazy or
01:03:52.920out it's just it's enough to help me get where i need to be mentally emotionally and physically
01:03:58.840and it's allowed me to get my life back and i cannot stress enough to you what that means
01:04:05.880okay and so i'll i'll be talking this planet probably till till the day i head out for sure
01:04:11.840Right. Well, thank you. Thanks for sharing. It's, again, just interesting to see the other side of the coin and to be a little bit more educated. Ask questions. Leafly, Morgan suggested that, is a good website to check out with all sorts of information.
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01:05:44.800thanks so much for updating us today so much for having me i've had so much fun and thanks for