Western Standard - LIVE SHOW - Triggered： City of Calgary representative outrageously slanders police officers.

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00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's March 31st, 2022, and welcome to Triggered.

00:00:38.860 I'm Corey Morgan. This is the Western Standard's daily live discussion, guest interview,

00:00:44.680 new sort of show, and of course with a lot of ranting and opinion out of me,

00:00:48.840 though we cover some news items as well.

00:00:50.880 This show comes live every day at 11.30 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday to Friday.

00:00:56.140 I don't do holidays, though, and we come on for specials now and then.

00:01:00.000 being live uh as i keep pointing out on every show for folks who are new i love seeing the

00:01:04.960 comments you know this is the opportunity that comes with not looking at a canned show you can

00:01:09.260 discuss things with each other you can send comments towards me send them towards the guests

00:01:13.220 we won't necessarily read them all out or anything but i do see them all and uh it does uh keep things

00:01:20.140 more lively you know and sometimes people bring up subjects and things that i never considered or

00:01:24.080 thought of i get some really great stuff out of the audience so thank you guys for the comments

00:01:27.360 and keep them coming. And of course, though, keep them civil. You know, we can be a little angry,

00:01:32.520 a little grumpy. I'm that way all the time, but we don't have to be fighting with each other. And

00:01:36.640 you know, on the internet and comment scrolls, that's unfortunately all too common. You know,

00:01:40.740 I've seen a lot of discussions derailed by things. So I've got a couple of great guests as always

00:01:45.660 today, so you don't have to listen to me for the entire hour and a half. I've got Senator-elect

00:01:50.120 Erica Baroudis. She was one of the ones selected in our Senate elections. She's now a senator-in- 0.54

00:01:56.160 waiting. Being in Canada, that waiting could be a terribly long time or it could be short. We'll

00:02:00.980 see. But when a prime minister finally gets in that decides to appoint them, she may become one

00:02:05.260 of our Alberta senators. Then we're going to have Michelle Sterling. She's been on a number of times 0.99

00:02:08.860 from the Friends of Science to get a reaction to the latest emissions targets set out by the

00:02:14.840 Liberal government and Trudeau and his henchman, Gil Bull, because, I mean, they've come up with

00:02:19.860 some just outright crazy goals that they think they're going to meet by 2030. So Michelle will 1.00

00:02:24.920 add a little bit of realism. I know, you know, there's obviously a campaign going on about this

00:02:29.840 for the APP, Alberta Prosperity Project. And thank you guys for pushing your cause. And I

00:02:34.860 appreciate it. But quit spamming my comment scroll, guys. I've got Dr. Modry on tomorrow.

00:02:40.240 We're going to talk about the Alberta Prosperity Project and we will discuss it at length.

00:02:44.480 Okay. So let's talk about what's got me going aside from promotion of side groups. And I know

00:02:48.960 that's what you got to do when you're trying to get a group room anyway. And that's the treatment

00:02:53.920 of our police, particularly in Calgary. So over 865 police officers have died in the line of duty

00:03:00.280 in Canada. Countless others have been injured or suffered from PTSD due to pressures from their

00:03:05.400 career. Policing is a brutally difficult career, both physically and emotionally. I mean, police

00:03:10.180 officers put their health and mental well-being on the line every day for their job. They work

00:03:15.580 long hours and some terrible shifts and often experience family breakdowns due to their career

00:03:20.460 choice. It's far from one of the best paying jobs out there either. I mean, with the time and

00:03:25.280 training required in order to become a police officer, a person could train for any number of

00:03:29.080 careers that pay better and come with a lot less personal risk and stress. So I mean, police works

00:03:33.640 a calling, and it isn't for everybody. I certainly wouldn't do it. Now, the thin blue line patch,

00:03:39.520 it's been worn by police officers for years, and Canadian ones, and it's as a recognition

00:03:44.080 for the role of their fellow officers. It represents that fragile line between anarchy

00:03:48.860 and law and order. So that's why it's a thin blue line. It's a symbol and it's over the Canadian

00:03:52.660 flag as can be seen. It also serves as a recognition, honoring the sacrifices made by

00:03:57.540 fellow officers, including those who lost their lives in the line of duty. Now the thin blue line

00:04:03.060 is a symbol of solidarity and pride. It's benign and it gives officers a passive means to express

00:04:08.220 their support for each other. Now due to lobbying from extreme anti-police elements, officers are

00:04:13.500 being told that they must strip this symbol of memorial and solidarity. A myth is being perpetuated

00:04:18.820 that this patch represents white supremacy. We should dismiss these ridiculous accusations 0.99

00:04:23.560 immediately and out of hand as soon as we hear them. Instead, we're indulging these extremists. 0.98

00:04:28.180 For the last few years, police forces from the RCMP to many municipal forces have been issuing

00:04:33.100 orders banning officers from displaying this patch. These radicals aren't just the usual suspects who

00:04:38.640 head those constant protests against policing and police forces. Some of these fringe thinkers

00:04:42.920 reside within influential government roles.

00:04:45.920 City of Calgary communications relations advisor Adam Messiah is one of those zealots.

00:04:50.920 I was shocked when I heard his statement on a radio news broadcast this morning when he did an interview for Global News.

00:04:56.920 So I'm going to play it so you can hear it for yourself.

00:04:59.920 A lot of officers want because of medical lives matter. 1.00

00:05:02.920 A lot of white officers want because they support the idea of a white supremac police state

00:05:08.920 and a Eurocentric idea of how Calgary is supposed to be.

00:05:12.920 So, I mean, it's a short clip, and that might have sounded a little rough, but bottom line is, with no evidence to support it, Messiah said that a lot of police officers wear the patch because they support a white supremac police state.

00:05:24.540 And he said that they want to create a Eurocentric world.

00:05:28.740 This sort of statement is inflammatory, divisive, and utterly inappropriate from a civic employee.

00:05:34.860 How many non-white officers wear that patch?

00:05:37.160 I mean, many do.

00:05:37.980 And how must they feel to be belittled and accused of supporting white supremacism?

00:05:41.980 supremacism from an influential city bureaucrat. Activists, including Calgary's current mayor,

00:05:47.080 have been pushing to defund police forces for years while blaming officers whenever anything

00:05:51.480 may go wrong. When the defund movement was indulged with increased funding for community

00:05:56.960 initiatives to prevent crime, they were still outraged because the police themselves weren't

00:06:01.180 actually defunded. Now, they always claimed that they wanted more community resources

00:06:04.940 and that that's all that they wanted, but no, that lie was exposed once they got what they asked for.

00:06:09.700 There wasn't enough for them. Their movement is vindictive, angry, and anti-police, and we have to

00:06:14.820 stop indulging them. Their goals are not realistic, and they're putting all of us at risk. American

00:06:19.700 cities that defunded their police forces experienced crime waves. Anybody but a crazed

00:06:24.020 activist or a progressive mayor could see, and they could have seen that coming easily, yet we

00:06:29.200 still see influential people calling to defund the police. In what world does defunding something

00:06:34.700 improve it? Will defunding education make teachers better? Defunding health care improve

00:06:39.240 surgical outcomes? The reasoning of the defund movement is outright bizarre, yet we continue

00:06:44.240 to take it seriously. This constant campaign of insulting and belittling police is coming

00:06:49.480 with a price. A Calgary Police Commission 2021 employee engagement report showed that

00:06:54.800 just 19% of the respondents said morale within the force is good. Only 19% thought morale

00:07:02.240 was good, the lowest levels in a decade. And is that really surprising? I mean, how's

00:07:07.300 got a feel to prepare for a shift of putting your safety at risk at late night hours, dealing with

00:07:11.980 people who are going to be spitting on you, berating you, and sometimes assaulting you,

00:07:16.320 only to hear from your employers that you should be ashamed of your job, that you're a potential 0.97

00:07:19.660 white supremacist, and you should be defunded. Is it any wonder that officers do act out on 0.88

00:07:24.460 occasion? In any other realm of employment, when employees are acting out and behaving poorly,

00:07:29.240 the employer will try and find out why the workers are experiencing poor morale.

00:07:33.560 In policing, civic leaders are responding by doubling down on the abuse of the officers.

00:07:38.040 Indulging the extreme anti-police activists is actually contributing to the problem of police misconduct.

00:07:44.640 Happy, relaxed officers are far less likely to break rules than the ones who have been beaten down, insulted, and defunded.

00:07:51.000 It's hard to believe this has to be said.

00:07:52.740 The RCMP, they've been unable to fill their recruiting goals, and people are hardly lining up to join the other forces.

00:07:57.800 Do activists really think quality of policing is going to improve as veteran officers are driven out while a smaller pool of activists come in to fill the void?

00:08:06.200 I mean, police officers are human. Of course they make mistakes.

00:08:08.520 And with their job, their mistakes can come with the most tragic of endings.

00:08:11.940 We can't give them a pass when there's been misconduct, and nobody's saying we should.

00:08:17.240 We entrust and task police officers with protecting us from harm.

00:08:20.900 And we need to treat them with respect for taking on that role.

00:08:24.000 The first step in respecting our police officers is to stand up and tell radical activists like Adam Messiah to get stuffed.

00:08:31.560 We can't allow this constant anti-police campaign to be indulged and appeased.

00:08:36.300 It harms officers, and by extension, it's going to harm all of us.

00:08:40.340 If the thin blue line patch is tossed to the wayside, rest assured, whatever new symbol is created will be smeared and decried as well.

00:08:46.780 The anti-police movement doesn't want police showing any signs of pride or solidarity.

00:08:50.920 They only want the police to display shame and contrition for actions they, most of them, aren't even responsible for.

00:08:57.840 Nobody should be treated like that for their career choice.

00:09:00.760 And that's what's got me triggered today.

00:09:04.120 Okay, now that's out of my system.

00:09:06.380 Let's bring Dave in, Dave Naylor, our news editor from the Western Standard, and see what else is making news today.

00:09:12.020 Hey, Dave, how's it going?

00:09:13.120 It's going well, Corey.

00:09:14.280 You know, you couldn't pay me enough money to be a cop these days.

00:09:17.660 No, I mean, it's a tough job.

00:09:19.560 you'd think at the least you could get some respect out of it anyways, you know?

00:09:22.920 Exactly.

00:09:24.960 So once again, another busy morning for us here in the newsroom.

00:09:28.840 The website is leading off with a news angle,

00:09:32.780 a new feature from our military affairs correspondent, Dave Makachuk.

00:09:37.720 And he's looking at the future of the Snowbirds,

00:09:40.800 the Canadian Forces demonstration team.

00:09:43.600 With the purchase this week of 88 brand new F-35s,

00:09:47.560 35s. Talk will next turn to replacing the aging snowbirds. So there's a Dave's look at that on

00:09:54.560 there right now. Tomorrow is going to be a ridiculous day for all Canadians. If you live 1.00

00:10:01.240 in Alberta, you're going to be paying lots more for gas. Albertans are getting a little bit of a

00:10:05.860 break, but the new carbon tax goes on in the morning and the annual increase in taxes on booze,

00:10:14.080 beer, wine, spirits. That'll cause your favorite tipple to increase in price tomorrow.

00:10:21.620 MPs will be able to afford it because MPs and Prime Minister Trudeau get a raise. So isn't that

00:10:28.420 nice of them? You've got a column up, Corey, from Ottawa, Mr. Creighton, talking about the Canadian

00:10:36.700 flag being owned by all of us not just politicians we've got a story up on out also out of ottawa

00:10:45.740 if you remember when all the hundreds of flights were cancelled because of covid when the pandemic

00:10:51.100 first started well that led to a flood of complaints to federal regulators in fact a

00:10:56.380 total of 26 000 canadians filed formal complaints trying to get their cash back and there's still

00:11:03.820 11 000 complaints that they haven't even got to yet uh we've got a reaction from the defense

00:11:09.900 minister anita anand to the guilty plea and sentence yesterday to the former chief of staff

00:11:16.700 general vance for obstruction she says every single day she is working to prevent this conduct

00:11:23.660 by top military officers every single day uh our mike thomas has a couple of uh pieces up there this

00:11:32.140 morning uh the royal le page report on recreational properties is out not surprisingly uh they're

00:11:40.140 skyrocketing in price like everything else so if you want to buy your weekend getaway on a lake

00:11:46.300 somewhere or near the mountains you're going to have to pay through the nose and mike's also got

00:11:51.580 a feature up there on the people's convoy this is the american version of the freedom convoy they

00:11:57.820 They descended on Washington, D.C. earlier this month.

00:12:03.000 Well, they're now packing up and they're heading to California,

00:12:06.480 a cross-country trip to California to demonstrate against the looming COVID-19 mandates

00:12:12.680 coming down in California.

00:12:16.140 Other stuff we've got today includes a story on the CBC telling their employees

00:12:22.940 to make sure that they use Google to identify the ethnicity of all their guests

00:12:28.980 so they can try and prove that they're being very diverse, very diverse.

00:12:34.660 So that's what the CBC is doing with your tax dollars.

00:12:40.820 Coming up this afternoon, Corey, our Matthew Horwood in Ottawa

00:12:44.520 is going to the big Pierre Polyev rally against carbon taxes.

00:12:49.800 And we're going to have a big scoop.

00:12:51.660 I can only tease viewers on it at the moment, but if you come back to the site around 5 o'clock this afternoon, Mountain Standard Time, we're going to have some big, big breaking news.

00:13:03.600 So there you go. Keep you on pins and needles there, Corey.

00:13:06.060 Great. Much appreciated. And just that reminder, so you're going to be recording something on that as well.

00:13:11.000 It's going to be a digital production, so just for everybody who wants to catch that as soon as it comes out,

00:13:16.400 if you're every one of these ways that you're following watching this show right now, make sure

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00:13:24.420 it is a pretty big scoop. It's going to be interesting. Yep. It's a big story. All right.

00:13:28.700 Well, thanks, Dave. I'll let you get back on churning out that news and getting ready for that

00:13:33.380 interview. Thanks, Corey. Great. Thanks. So that's our news editor, Dave Naylor. And again,

00:13:38.840 as I keep pointing out, boy, it used to be such a small segment even, you know, a while back,

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00:13:47.960 last six months even with reporters in Ottawa, Saskatchewan, BC, Manitoba, all over the place.

00:13:54.080 These stories in the morning, there's just a load of them. And if you want to see them

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00:14:03.140 subscriber-based. I mean, as Dave pointed out how horrific the CBC is in their wretched coverage,

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00:14:37.620 any longer is by supporting independent outlets like us. And then I was talking about the thing

00:14:43.760 that got me going with that police rant this morning. I was, as I say, I tortured myself

00:14:47.460 listening to talk radio on the drive here. And I listened to one of the hosts going on about that

00:14:52.360 with the patch and the thin blue line saying, yeah, yeah, we should just be nice. We should

00:14:56.520 just get rid of it and come up with a new one. That's a good idea. It'll make everybody happy.

00:15:00.240 Like, really? Really? Nothing. Nothing they make and change it out to will make the activists happy.

00:15:09.540 You got to stop appeasing them. But that's the message they want to put out because they like getting their mayor who comes on to their show every Friday and blathers at them and things such as that.

00:15:19.820 You see, we are beholden in those ways. We'll report things, frankly, and directly to you guys.

00:15:25.140 And again, getting to those patches, the police, I mean, they aren't perfect.

00:15:28.980 And hey, I'm certain there's some racist police officers out there.

00:15:32.540 Absolutely there are. 0.69

00:15:34.000 There's some criminal ones.

00:15:35.220 There's some violent ones.

00:15:36.160 But they're in the minority.

00:15:37.480 And addressing them by belittling the entire force is not going to help.

00:15:43.220 It's not.

00:15:43.900 So, I mean, if we've got a real problem, let's take a real approach on fixing it, a realistic one. 0.94

00:15:49.520 and this defunding crap and this constant saying they should be ashamed of themselves 0.90

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00:17:04.220 All right. So what do we see some of these comments here? Well, yeah, there's Kim Holmes, 1.00

00:17:11.340 I guess, you know, racism in the police officers isn't always just with white officers. How come

00:17:14.920 that's not talked about? There's some truth to that. I mean, there's ingrained prejudices that

00:17:20.800 can come on a lot of levels. I mean, the police have a lot of hard stuff to deal with. I can

00:17:25.900 understand, for example, how some judgments could come roughly with a lot of our downtown troubled

00:17:30.260 population, the addicted people, the homeless people. A great number of them are First Nations 1.00

00:17:34.960 members. And it doesn't matter which officer, if they've had too many negative interactions with

00:17:38.900 them, they could start negatively judging First Nations people when they encounter them immediately

00:17:44.260 because of that. And that's true racism. That's prejudice. Even if it built unintentionally,

00:17:48.940 even if they don't realize they're doing it, these are serious problems. And this could happen to any

00:17:53.320 officer of any race. If they're not, I mean, there's ways we should be working to improve

00:17:58.160 training and watching for these things so we do have a fair police force and reduce these sorts

00:18:04.160 of incidents of racism all over the place as much as possible. But when we keep slamming

00:18:09.000 the whole force, when we keep dejecting them, when we keep telling them they should be ashamed

00:18:12.620 of themselves, that's not going to help at all. You know, I'm going to, I'll wait because

00:18:21.000 it's too soon to the next guest, but when I'm done with Erica Barudis, I'm going to

00:18:23.980 tell a story about an incident I got to see in the States in Pennsylvania when I had hired

00:18:29.780 a young black fellow to work for us out there on a contract I was doing an oil exploration

00:18:36.520 and we had an experience with the police that was and with some locals that was a gross incident of

00:18:42.120 racism and it was very horrible to behold and it's something I've never had to personally

00:18:46.480 experience but it really did drive home how people yeah who are you know white and like myself never 0.99

00:18:52.580 do have to deal with that sort of crap reminds us it really does happen out there and it really is

00:18:56.760 troubling, and we really got to work on those things. And it was an eye-opener for me. So I'll 0.93

00:19:02.720 expand a little on how that all came about, because it really does happen out there, guys. It's not

00:19:06.060 just woke news and things like that that point out these incidents. The problem is their solutions

00:19:10.920 just aren't good ones, and going after our forces in general is not the way to deal with it.

00:19:18.200 David Thompson, you know, saying make police responsible for their actions. I think to a large

00:19:22.200 degree. A lot of them are. I mean, there's commissions, there's inquiries. There have

00:19:26.960 been problems with the police in the past, you know, internal investigations, things like that.

00:19:32.940 They can be biased, they can be prejudiced, and sometimes let officers off the hook for

00:19:36.280 misconduct. I mean, we just have to keep working on it. It's an ongoing process. You improve the

00:19:41.100 controls. You work on, again, making the training better, making the processes better. But I just

00:19:47.240 can't think of anything more stupid than defunding them. We can't get rid of them. We can't. They're 1.00

00:19:53.520 in need. In a civilized society, we need it. We need it, I mean, minimalized. As I've said before,

00:19:58.420 I'm a classical liberal. I'm a libertarian sort. I want as much individual freedom as possible for

00:20:04.440 everybody out there. And that means the least amount of police interaction. But still, we do

00:20:09.200 need police. You need police to prevent others from stealing things from you. You need them to

00:20:14.360 prevent people from assaulting you. All of these basic things. Unfortunately, there's a lot of rough

00:20:19.220 people in humanity. Not all of us are equipped to defend ourselves against those people. That's why

00:20:24.980 we pitch in as a civilized society to have a group of people designated to enforcing these laws, and

00:20:30.380 it's a tough, bloody job, and we need to support them. But we aren't. We're going the wrong way.

00:20:38.000 Now let's see what else we got here going on in the news. That censorship panel, I think Dave

00:20:43.480 mentioned that. So this is the Heritage Minister, Pablo Rodriguez, appointed a panel of experts,

00:20:51.100 experts, apparently, mostly professors. Now we've got to think of what comes out of our areas of

00:20:56.700 higher education, if you even want to call it that. You know, it's almost tongue-in-cheek to

00:21:00.540 say that. But these professors are going to be the ones who give advice on how to regulate the

00:21:06.340 internet in Canada. You see, the government hasn't stopped with their plans to control our speech,

00:21:10.900 to control our discourse, to stop shows like this.

00:21:14.000 They want to stop it.

00:21:14.960 They do not like this, guys.

00:21:16.580 They want the CBC.

00:21:17.880 They want controlled media.

00:21:19.380 And they make no secrets about it.

00:21:21.220 Well, Cabinet's proposed hiring a federal censor

00:21:23.980 to block legal online content that they deem harmful.

00:21:28.680 This is dangerous, dangerous territory, guys.

00:21:32.280 Very dangerous.

00:21:33.260 And yet they're just openly doing it.

00:21:35.220 Rodriguez told reporters, we're open to all ideas.

00:21:37.400 The only thing we want is to do the right thing

00:21:39.420 and make it right.

00:21:40.900 you know, so they want to make it happen. How important is the, I'm just reading some of the

00:21:45.800 news copy of this, how important is this question that the bill doesn't infringe on charter rights?

00:21:49.860 And Rodriguez did say it's fundamental. Well, then if you believe that, get the hell out of it.

00:21:53.920 It's not your job to regulate what we say. That's the way the charter works.

00:21:58.380 Free speech means hearing some things you don't like hearing. Free speech means hearing some BS

00:22:03.600 at times. Free speech means, you know, hearing some misinformation. You got to sift and cut

00:22:08.820 through it. With freedom comes responsibility. So many people seem to forget that. So yes,

00:22:14.980 there's a price. Every freedom has a price and free speech has that one. We've got laws already

00:22:21.400 on the books about illegal speech, such as counseling people to assault people, such as

00:22:27.600 trying to incite another crime or a danger. Again, you know, the old, oh, what about yelling fire in

00:22:36.540 a theater. Woof. Yeah, that is inciting harm to people. Come on. We've got judges for this. We 0.87

00:22:41.640 can determine the difference between what should be a free speech and what isn't. And then those

00:22:45.980 limitations are already there. The laws are already there. We don't need more. The problem

00:22:51.260 that the federal government has right now is that they don't like what they're hearing.

00:22:58.080 A lot of the speech is things that they want to control and push to the wayside. It's much like

00:23:03.520 any authoritarian regime, one of the first things they have to do is try and control information.

00:23:09.180 And that information comes through speech, and right now the internet predominantly. So this is

00:23:14.840 a real problem, and this is going before committee. Unfortunately, I don't see any more respect coming

00:23:19.120 from NDP leader Jagmeet Singh for unrestrained free speech than we see coming from Prime Minister

00:23:26.940 Trudeau or his henchmen in cabinet. So what's this more, you know, text from Rodriguez when

00:23:34.400 he's questioned on this. He'll tell you something else because he said he respects charter rights,

00:23:37.440 but he's not. He's not. This bill is an offense to free speech, so he doesn't respect charter

00:23:42.560 rights. He said, there's a lot of people who don't want to share what they think anymore.

00:23:46.020 They're afraid of going online to speak freely because of the negative and violent reaction

00:23:49.800 they might get. I think in some ways this bill will actually help freedom of speech. Oh, what

00:23:53.900 load of crap. Come on, guys. Don't feed me that. Look, yeah, we do see some negative and nasty 1.00

00:23:59.880 online comments out of a lot of people. There's no coward worse than some of the people on Twitter

00:24:04.120 with an anonymous account throwing their stuff out at people. And it's on the left. It's on the 0.65

00:24:08.500 right. It doesn't really matter. There's people who will throw out threats. There's people who

00:24:11.960 try to intimidate online. But you know what? There are laws against that already. I think one of the

00:24:17.520 you guys see what he's talking about. Some people are afraid to go online because of the negative

00:24:21.340 and violent reaction. Okay, violence illegal. So we've already got a law for that. If they're

00:24:25.080 pushing violence, if people are threatening people, we've got laws already to deal with that.

00:24:29.800 Plus, most of the social media majors, if a person starts threatening somebody on a social

00:24:34.340 media platform, that account is going to be banned and quickly. The other word, don't forget, is

00:24:38.820 negative. People aren't going online because of the negative reaction they might get. Well,

00:24:44.900 so what? If you're coming on to debate things, you're going to get negative response. God,

00:24:50.040 you guys should see what my email inbox looks like sometimes. You learn to live with it. Block

00:24:54.680 and delete. Move on. As I said before, you know, with a dog, when they leave something in the lawn,

00:24:59.140 you scrape those feet and kick some grass over it and move on. It's not the place of the government

00:25:04.060 to control the entire platform of speech because somebody might get some negative response. But

00:25:09.920 again, they don't care about negative response anyways. They're making their excuses for a bill

00:25:14.240 that is going to work to crush online discourse, and it's dangerous. It's extremely dangerous.

00:25:21.260 Most of the viewers here, of course, already appreciate alternative media. That's clear.

00:25:24.680 That's why you're here right now. And we've got other outlets, you know, Rebel and True North

00:25:29.620 and Postmillennial, all these outlets, Epoch Times. They can't exist, though, without having

00:25:36.280 these freedoms protected. They are very much new alternative media outlets. We're reliant on the

00:25:42.720 internet and those things. And if the government starts crushing us on these things, what do we

00:25:47.240 got left? CBC, government messaging, you know, Globe and Mail, the Red Star, these outlets that

00:25:54.760 take tax dollars to basically regurgitate whatever the government line is for themselves. That's

00:26:01.260 what you get stuck with, guys. And this is where we are working right now. And unfortunately, yes,

00:26:05.320 with the, uh, uh, full support of some, I've just got to send a quick message. So, uh,

00:26:11.900 uh, I think we've got a little bit of a technical issue with our guest.

00:26:20.600 All right. She should be here shortly. That's why I've been kind of rambling. Nothing more

00:26:25.280 fun on a live broadcast than a late guest, but she will get here, I think. So, uh, what

00:26:30.560 do we got? Somebody else saying a walkie talkies. Yeah. You know, we're going to get to that

00:26:33.460 point of back to ham radios and communicating through that. Ah, there she is. Okay, great.

00:26:39.400 So I'm going to stop babbling at you guys, filling these minutes in and bring in our guest,

00:26:45.460 Erica Barudis, and discuss what we were going to get at today. So let's bring her in. Hey, 0.98

00:26:52.180 how's it going? Good. Sorry, I forgot to hit the button that said enter the room. So I was just

00:26:56.680 hanging out for a bit. That's why I should always just come down and do it in person.

00:27:00.440 Well, yeah, we've got that bigger studio now.

00:27:03.140 We wouldn't be all squashed together like the last time you were down in here.

00:27:06.400 No, I appreciate it.

00:27:07.580 Glad we got you, Ian.

00:27:08.480 Anyways, you know, you always start to worry.

00:27:09.840 These live things, it makes it hard to reach out and see what's up.

00:27:13.840 So, yeah, when you come in, it'll put you into a lobby and you're safe to come in later.

00:27:18.740 So the next time you're on, we'll know that for sure.

00:27:21.200 Sounds good.

00:27:21.840 I'm the worst millennial ever.

00:27:23.140 I can't figure out technology.

00:27:24.220 So just proved it to everyone today.

00:27:26.980 Yeah, I'm getting worse as I go myself.

00:27:29.060 but I'm a Gen Xer so I think you know tech wise you always hit a certain point and then you just

00:27:34.000 stop learning further and then that's when you get start asking the kids to show you how to program

00:27:37.940 things and stuff. Exactly. All right so I wanted to bring you in because I've been interviewing

00:27:45.060 actually a series of the Conservative Party of Canada leadership candidates and I try to throw

00:27:50.580 them all a consistent question I think there's five of them I've interviewed now so far and

00:27:54.080 another one tomorrow. And I ask if they would commit to appointing our elected senators,

00:28:00.660 of which you are one of those. And all except Mr. Charest actually so far have positively

00:28:06.420 responded. And Mr. Charest wasn't fully negative. He just wouldn't commit, which is a difficult one

00:28:12.640 to see. So it's an important race, though. And that's another element within it. If we want our

00:28:17.320 elected members to ever actually be appointed, we'll need a conservative leader who supports that.

00:28:21.320 Oh, definitely. We do need that. And I think that, you know, it's very important in this race to see that they would commit to the autonomy and respect Alberta. I think that that's going to be a big, big item in this conservative leadership is seeing how they're going to actually listen to the West address Western alienation. And I think that the Senate election is a demonstration of that. It's a system that we have here unique to Alberta and something that we've just recently gone through.

00:28:49.620 So for me, it's very important, and I think for Albertans, it'll be very important for them to honour that system and process that we have here.

00:28:57.260 Yeah, well, and that's part of our problem, and that's what I, you know, being a Western outlet, I've hit them with a lot of questions, and they've dodged quite a bit on a lot of them.

00:29:05.400 It's understandable in the, at least the purely political sense, if you want to win a federal race, particularly with weighted ridings, you have to make sure that you really appeal to Central Canada, particularly Quebec and Ontario.

00:29:16.600 I mean, to a degree, I don't take it personally. It's math. But still, they don't want to touch equalization. They don't want to touch supply management. They don't want to even go into these issues if they can avoid them. That's where hopefully a senator could at least address these because you're not quite worrying so much about those things.

00:29:35.060 Definitely. There's roles for everyone to play. And I would hope that some of the conservative candidates and as much as there's heavy numbers for them to win an election out east would still respect Alberta. They're representing coast to coast. So clearly our prime minister doesn't do that. But I would love to see a conservative candidate that would stand up for the West. But you're right. The Senate can also bring forward their own pieces of private members legislation that could address that.

00:30:04.340 And as a senator, or in this case, Senate-elect, your role and responsibilities is to advocate for the area in which you present.

00:30:11.600 And that is obviously a top of mind issue in Alberta and something that I would definitely champion, should I have the opportunity to out in Ottawa.

00:30:19.720 Well, let's say from way back when, in the late 80s and 90s, you know, the big rallying call for the Reform Party was Triple E, Senate, which stand for equally elected and effective.

00:30:29.020 uh now to get that would take constitutional reform and i've found no candidate yet willing

00:30:33.940 to to go open that uh can of worms yet but i do think at least if you can get one of the ease

00:30:39.340 you got a better chance of getting another one of them would be effective if they're elected

00:30:43.100 it means they had to pass some bar aside from you know just appealing to a particular prime

00:30:47.480 minister at a certain time but then getting effective once they're in but would you perhaps

00:30:52.240 be rally you know lobbying a bit to try and reform the senate itself once you got in there

00:30:56.220 Definitely. I mean, I think that that's where change can really happen. To your point, the triple E is the long marathon game. But I think the biggest sprint opportunity or short term win in reforming the Senate would be that elected role. You know, there's criticism that while Alberta is doing this, you know, you're the only one. Well, it's got to start somewhere. I think last time we were on, I was on the show, you talked about how in the states there, that's how it originally started as well with some of the states taking ownership

00:31:26.200 over who they were sending to represent them, and that's kind of how they evolved to where they are

00:31:32.420 today. And I do think there's an accountability, you know, I, very long runway of being there,

00:31:37.700 and I don't believe that that should be the case in the Senate as well. I shouldn't be there till

00:31:42.040 I'm 75. So I think there's lots of opportunity to really show the value out of the Senate and

00:31:46.760 truly put it in a position to be sober second thought. And I believe that that first step is by

00:31:51.800 appointing elected senates and then reforming it from within.

00:31:55.940 So going beyond that, I mean, it's kind of been almost exclusively an Alberta initiative to elect

00:32:00.860 our senators. Have you seen any indication of movement within other provinces? Like the more

00:32:04.660 provinces get on board and start doing this, the more pressure it'll put on a prime minister,

00:32:08.480 whether it's conservative or liberal or even Deputy Prime Minister Jagmeet Singh, to push and

00:32:14.360 get those, you know, elected ones rather than their personal appointees. Like it can add to

00:32:19.240 public pressure. But is there indications anybody else wants to move on this sort of thing?

00:32:23.880 Well, I wouldn't say that this new NDP liberal coalition is going to be knocking down

00:32:28.500 my door anytime soon. But I think when it comes to the potential for other provinces,

00:32:33.480 that would be a great place for the West to really unite behind one another. I think that

00:32:39.100 even during these elections, I'm a good Saskia girl. So know that Saskatchewan was watching

00:32:43.660 the elections. Obviously, I can't speak to what policies Premier Mo would bring in or wouldn't.

00:32:49.240 but I think Manitoba and Saskatchewan would be great partners as well as BC and actually if you

00:32:54.660 can get those groups on side you could actually have that reform within the Senate. So I think

00:33:01.960 it's a good strategy to look at but no I haven't heard specifics of someone ready to adopt the

00:33:07.800 Senate Act in another jurisdiction. Yeah well I'm just kind of pitching that in a sense as you said

00:33:13.180 you're a Saskatchewan girl and Premier Mo is actually a good you know receptive sort of

00:33:18.060 Premier, I mean, maybe some of the elected senators, your senators in waiting technically,

00:33:22.280 well, you don't have to wait passively. Maybe you can start pushing to get more people to join

00:33:26.580 that waiting list in other provinces and help lobby in them. Because I think Saskatchewan

00:33:30.940 residents, Manitoba, even some of the maritime citizens would be pretty happy to be able to

00:33:35.140 make a mark on a ballot in that choice. I definitely don't agree. And we all know

00:33:39.620 I'm not very quiet. So you'll likely see that coming down the pipe from me. And I know that

00:33:44.200 the other Senate elects are also keen to, to approach both the federal and other jurisdictions

00:33:49.480 to, to show that it's a beautiful thing of democracy to, to elect your Senate near the

00:33:54.900 upper house.

00:33:56.320 So what, what priorities, I may as well hit on, on where you're at there as an elected

00:34:00.820 Senator, if you got in, what would your top priorities upon entering that red chamber be?

00:34:06.700 Yeah.

00:34:06.900 So the first one is definitely equalization.

00:34:08.760 You know, I've lived in the West my entire life and understand. I lived in Saskatchewan when it was a have not province, then moved to Alberta in early 2000. So I've seen where, you know, you had great, great economic success and where it's been tougher times. And so I think it's a big thing to reassess that the formula just doesn't work anymore.

00:34:31.440 and I think that that's something that obviously the Prime Minister doesn't want to address and I

00:34:38.620 think Alberta could go even farther than we have on standing up to the federal government on what

00:34:44.520 our fair deal looks like. So definitely championing that as I traveled around the province over the

00:34:49.740 summer and during the election period, that is what I heard. It is we work really hard, we're happy to

00:34:54.800 be a part of the team but this doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense for how we feel as part of

00:35:00.060 the team and it doesn't make sense when we're having tough times that nobody steps up for us

00:35:04.160 and honestly like if anyone's been a part of a team you realize that you know you've got to all

00:35:08.820 come together and rally behind each other when you need it and I think that Alberta has has lived

00:35:13.620 that long enough where they feel left out but always giving out of pocket so that's definitely

00:35:19.640 something and then I'm very passionate about mental health for our veterans so I'd actually

00:35:23.840 want to bring in a private member's bill that would also address kind of the gap when they're

00:35:29.140 leaving their service to get the right mental health and not get lost in the system because

00:35:33.280 those first few months or even year out of service is definitely something I think we need. We owe

00:35:38.860 the people that stood up for us and put boots on the ground to protect our freedoms. So that's

00:35:45.700 another one. A little bit, yeah. Oh, I was just saying that's a good one to hear. I mean, there's

00:35:49.360 a tragic amount of veterans find themselves on the street or addicted because they come back from

00:35:53.400 very stressful duties and suffer from PTSD. And if it's not addressed soon, it could really develop

00:35:58.700 into something terrible so it's good to hear some some initiative on that yeah definitely i think

00:36:02.780 it'd be a lot of work but uh something that i think there's you know you'd get support across

00:36:08.460 the aisle uh and and in the house as well on something like that i'd like to think it'd be

00:36:12.860 hard to see anybody opposing that though i mean our politicians never fail to uh underwhelm sometimes

00:36:17.660 but uh so with your term actually in the in the case of this because it's kind of changed election

00:36:21.980 by election is there uh an expiration date though on your election uh you know hopefully you get

00:36:26.940 appointed before that hits but when does that end? Yeah I definitely think I have a little bit

00:36:31.740 of a runway but at the to your point under the election act it can be called during a municipal

00:36:37.580 provincial or a standalone election so I guess I'm also at the will of the provincial government on

00:36:43.740 when they think that this term should go into re-election obviously I don't think that any of

00:36:49.500 us should be just gifted it again we've got to work hard and earn the the votes of Albertans just like

00:36:55.260 we did last fall um and as it sits right now you know uh like i said i've got some runways so i

00:37:00.860 i would as of today want to put my name forward i i still think that there's lots of change to

00:37:04.940 make in the senate and i'll continue uh talking loud and proud about that until uh i might have

00:37:10.140 to put my name back on a ballot great and just to finish up so you were elected as a conservative

00:37:14.460 party a canada senator um are you uh involved in uh the the leadership race at all or have

00:37:20.300 you taken any stances are you just kind of watching at this point i am just watching at

00:37:24.220 this point uh not kind of getting behind anyone i want to see the full scope um what i would hope

00:37:29.500 as conservatives that and obviously there's so much going on in conservative politics uh provincially

00:37:35.180 and federally right now but what i'm looking for is actually a candidate that can beat and unseat

00:37:40.540 justin trudeau um you know i wouldn't be necessarily looking to all of my ideological

00:37:46.540 beliefs lining up completely i don't think we need to be liberals to win uh or liberal light

00:37:51.260 I think we can be strong conservatives with values that align with traditionally our party and that's

00:37:56.780 what I'm going to be looking for is who who's going to do what they say they're going to do

00:38:00.140 in their election and then the other thing is who can actually go toe to toe we have to show

00:38:04.380 Canadians that you know as they keep going more left we need to be that right alternative for 1.00

00:38:10.060 Canadians and I want to see that from those leaders. Great well it is going to be a long

00:38:14.700 horse race going all the way into September so we'll see how those campaigns develop and

00:38:18.860 as i said i'm interviewing more and more of the candidates and seeing where they're landed they've

00:38:22.780 all been pretty cagey but it's kind of be expected this early in the campaign as they fill out their

00:38:27.020 platforms i suspect they'll get a little more uh specific and and some issues and things like that

00:38:33.180 uh so there'll never be a dull moment oh no we don't allow that to happen especially with

00:38:37.980 conservatives i mean if we're going after the liberals we're ripping each other up to the

00:38:41.260 entertainment of everybody else so if nothing else show hopefully it gets more productive

00:38:47.500 so uh thanks for for checking in with us today though i appreciate that and just seeing what

00:38:51.020 you've been up to or what you're looking to do as a senator in waiting is there anything else you'd

00:38:54.620 like to add before uh we let you go i just want to apologize for being late i'm usually like five

00:38:59.580 minutes early so i do apologize for that i'm sure that all the your your listeners we're very happy

00:39:05.340 to to hear more from you and less from me but uh no thank you for having me and i i'm more than

00:39:10.140 happy to come back and talk about some of the issues as the leadership race um kind of gears

00:39:15.100 up and what we can expect for Alberta. Excellent. Much appreciated. And I'll let you get back to

00:39:21.660 waiting, I guess. And we'll talk again soon. Thanks for coming on. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.

00:39:29.640 Yes, that's our Senator-elect, Erica Barutis. And, you know, again, it's a process. It's just

00:39:34.820 looking at pragmatism. You know, you want to get things, even small victories. I mean, getting some

00:39:39.060 of our elected senators in won't fix the whole Senate, but it's a good start and it moves in

00:39:44.020 the right direction and it puts pressure on and the more that do so the better i'm going to speak

00:39:49.100 quickly to one of our sponsors then i will relate that story from pennsylvania i was going to talk

00:39:52.600 about because i want to add some balance to some things here on on real issues but either way the

00:39:56.200 canada the canadian shooting association these guys are one of our sponsors they've been a

00:40:00.960 fantastic one and they're there for you as an advocacy group to support your right and ability

00:40:07.440 to use collect firearms i mean the name sort of says it all it's an association like anything

00:40:13.120 else. I mean, I'm going to take up beekeeping this year and I'm going to join some sort of

00:40:16.980 beekeeping association so I can share the resources with other people doing it and you can better do

00:40:21.200 it and more safely do it. So with the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, they have all those

00:40:26.520 resources, videos on safe firearm use, links to upcoming trade shows for firearms, things like

00:40:32.680 that. And most importantly, and as I mentioned every time, they have a number of legal challenges

00:40:37.680 out on behalf of firearm owners to make sure you preserve your right and ability to use safely

00:40:43.880 firearms, whether hunting, target shooting, collecting, whatever you want. It's your business.

00:40:48.720 These guys are lobbying for it. And as we know, with our rights, if we don't stand up for them,

00:40:52.380 they will get taken away. The government is always eager to take your rights away. And one of them

00:40:57.280 is property. And they keep recategorizing these firearms and stealing them from you. They're going

00:41:02.380 to keep doing it as long as we let them get away with it. So join. If you're a firearms owner,

00:41:06.660 you really should join the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, take out a membership with

00:41:11.860 them. That's how they can keep moving to stand up for you and your rights and abilities out there.

00:41:16.420 So they've been a great sponsor, and by all means, get on board. So yes, I ripped into the

00:41:23.780 defund the police movement, and I will continue to. And I'm very upset with them. And I think

00:41:28.260 there's some extreme activists, but I do want to add some balance that there are some real issues

00:41:31.460 out there and ones that I haven't had to experience, but I gained some a little bit of

00:41:34.980 of insight and understanding into. And it's a bit different in the States than here. I think we're

00:41:39.500 much better up here with racial issues than the States. I think that's an easy statement to make, 0.91

00:41:43.860 but we've always got more to work on. So I'll give this story. Jane's heard it a number of times as

00:41:48.720 she heard me have off to live rant it while I was working down there. I was running a seismic crew

00:41:53.920 or at least a survey crew for it down in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. It's kind of

00:41:57.680 central Pennsylvania. It's where the little league world championship is held every year, actually.

00:42:02.300 um and it was hard getting labor back then this was about 10 years ago i needed people just for

00:42:08.380 straight out labor just to get on the lines uh where the the bush cutters were to cut for the 0.99

00:42:12.040 seismic lines and throw the bush off to the side they call them stick pickers down the states 0.73

00:42:15.420 simple job decent pay for what it is down there i mean when you're in an area where you can buy a

00:42:19.500 house for 75 000 paying somebody you know 150 a day to walk on the line throw sticks off it

00:42:24.480 is pretty good money but it was hard to get decent workers these guys i get from upstate

00:42:30.040 New York. I'll spare you all the stories on that, but they drive me crazy. Either way, in the area

00:42:34.460 I was in, we were renting because the boom was going on down there. I was actually renting a

00:42:37.300 boarding house in a residential area to use for our field office and for me to stay in.

00:42:41.660 And I had this young man who kept coming by. His name was Sharif and kept saying, you know,

00:42:45.700 you got a job. You got a job for me. I thought, great. You know, I'm going to get into the labor

00:42:48.340 pool. Something different. There's a large black population there in Williamsport and a lot of

00:42:53.380 unemployment. Let's get these guys out working. It's great for me. They're employed. Everybody

00:42:57.320 wins. This is perfect. Well, first, my own crew, unfortunately, not a lot of them reacted. I mean,

00:43:02.100 a lot of them were fine, but a good number of them reacted negatively. And I laid down the loss. Hey,

00:43:07.160 guys, don't you dare make a problem with this. As Sharif says, he's got a lot more friends and I

00:43:12.660 will certainly replace all of you. These are local people I'm hiring. I'm looking forward to it.

00:43:16.700 So we got Sharif out in the field. Now, unfortunately, unfortunately, we discovered

00:43:20.960 after a while. Sharif as a laborer sucked. He didn't like it after about 10 days or so. He quit 1.00

00:43:28.520 on me mid shift, phones me up, says, I've had it with this. I don't like it anymore. Come pick me

00:43:33.820 up. And of course I was not happy. This is mid shift. Dude, I don't have time for this. Keep

00:43:39.820 finishing out the day at least and come in with the crew and we'll, we'll work on things after

00:43:44.540 that. He said, no, I'm done. Well, fine, but I'm not picking you up until five o'clock when the

00:43:49.100 crews are done. So that was it. Okay, about two o'clock in the afternoon, I get a phone call from

00:43:54.820 the local sheriff. So what? Well, we've picked up a gentleman on the side of the road who says he

00:44:00.180 works for you guys, and I just need to confirm that. I said, yeah, this Sharif, he works for us,

00:44:07.980 or he did, and, you know, what's he done wrong? Well, nothing, but he was sitting on the side of

00:44:13.420 road and then the person phoned in and and was concerned so well he quit and i was just we

00:44:19.260 weren't picking him up till five o'clock uh that's all he says well can you come get him

00:44:23.500 i said we're gonna get him till five so well i can't leave him out here fine so i drove out and

00:44:28.860 got him and brought him in and you know we dealt with his paperwork and so on now what the issue

00:44:32.700 was was sharif quit he walked out of the trees and he sat on the side of a rural road a local

00:44:37.580 resident got upset because they saw a black man sitting on the side of the road and they called

00:44:40.620 the police and the police indulged him and picked him up would they have done that if it was a white 0.91

00:44:46.220 guy on the side of the road no they wouldn't there's no way they would have done that nobody

00:44:49.660 even would have phoned it in what an officer have said after confirming with the employer at least

00:44:56.300 you know oh okay that's what it's about i can call this this citizen and tell them to calm down and

00:45:01.740 then just let this fellow out until we come uh and pick him up no they wouldn't have done that with 0.70

00:45:07.580 with a white guy, but they did with the black. I said, no, we're not even letting him out. He 0.99

00:45:10.180 hasn't committed a crime. He said the crime of being in a rural white area and freaking people 0.88

00:45:15.680 out. This is something I've never had to experience. So it lets me know and understand at least a

00:45:21.380 little bit of some of the frustration, the fear, the mistrust that goes on between some minorities

00:45:26.200 and police services and with citizens in general. That was a really ugly little incident. Hey,

00:45:32.960 I worked in Pennsylvania a lot. There's a lot of fantastic people out there of all races and

00:45:37.540 all over, but there's definitely a lot more division going on down in the States, particularly

00:45:41.080 when I worked in the South as well, of course, you know, in West Virginia and Louisiana and down

00:45:45.480 there, there was huge issues. But these are things that I got to admit, and I don't like when people

00:45:49.320 keep throwing it at you with white privilege, but there are some things of privilege I never had to

00:45:52.420 experience those things. So there really are some roots to why some people mistrust the police.

00:45:57.900 There really are some bad actions on the part of police, you know, not looking through situations

00:46:03.000 and making assumptions and doing some things and servicing prejudices, more so in the states than

00:46:08.320 here, but still here as well, clearly to some degree. So we can't dismiss, we shouldn't dismiss

00:46:14.040 the concerns people are making with policing. It's real. What we do, though, have to stop is the

00:46:19.760 crazed activists saying we have to defund the police, that we should take away their pride with

00:46:24.040 the thin blue line and constantly belittle them, or as that Calgary official said, accuse them of 0.55

00:46:30.040 white supremacy. That's ridiculous, and that only makes the divisions worse and further. There's 0.98

00:46:35.540 room for nuanced discussion here. There's room to accept and admit that our police services

00:46:40.000 have room for improvement and that we can fix these things, and there are some real problems

00:46:44.280 to address. But to try and tear it down and defund it and attack our police forces is not going to

00:46:49.680 fix this problem at all. It's going to make it worse. And unfortunately, our civic leaders are

00:46:55.660 indulging that crap. And that's a real problem. And that's why I get worked up with it. But I do 1.00

00:47:00.540 like to present both sides. There's stuff I haven't experienced, stuff I don't necessarily

00:47:04.020 understand. I do think there's room to have some discussions and see how we can do it better.

00:47:08.660 But I can't see in any sort of way how defunding these guys is going to make them better in any

00:47:14.780 sort of way. So let's think a little harder. That's something I like to say city council all

00:47:20.180 the time. Think harder, guys. I think I tweeted that earlier today because they're working now

00:47:25.160 on banning vaping in public parks. This is one of their discussions, banning vaping in public parks.

00:47:30.680 I've been tweeting pictures I show of the discarded syringes I see on my way into work every day.

00:47:36.180 We've got a downtown that is unsafe. We've got out-of-control addicts. We've got people dying

00:47:41.320 of overdoses, and they're concerned about somebody vaping in the middle of an open park. Guys,

00:47:46.520 there's people shooting up in the alleys. Get your priorities straight. And as I said to them,

00:47:51.940 think harder. Like, just get it together, you nutcases. You know, you're over in Vancouver 0.98

00:47:59.760 right now, Mayor Gondek, because they're discussing ways that a net zero program will somehow bring

00:48:04.880 more businesses to the city. Well, as Nico showed with that tweet that I put out with all those

00:48:08.980 syringes in that stairway I walked through, no business is going to relocate and bring their

00:48:14.260 staff into that environment. I don't think they care if some guy's vaping on a park bench,

00:48:18.540 But if they walk to scout a potential office or business front or something to open and they see a bunch of syringes laying around and they see the ambulances rounding up overdoses, as I saw yesterday on my way in, and I tweeted those out as well, they're not going to come here.

00:48:34.320 But our city priorities just seem to be out to lunch, and I don't get it with these guys, but that's where they're at.

00:48:41.820 So that's why I keep reminding them, think harder, guys. It's not doing well.

00:48:48.540 I see our next guest in the lobby.

00:48:50.120 I think I'm getting really ranted up here and worked up.

00:48:52.000 Maybe I should bring Michelle in to calm things down a little bit here.

00:48:55.380 So I got Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.

00:48:57.260 She's been on a number of times.

00:48:58.540 She's also most definitely a friend of the Western Standard Shows.

00:49:01.760 And we have some ludicrous emissions targets have been set.

00:49:05.200 And I'm certain Michelle will have a few things to say about it.

00:49:07.740 So let's bring her in and examine our latest policies. 0.99

00:49:10.980 Hey, Michelle, good to see you.

00:49:12.400 Good to see you.

00:49:13.080 Thanks, Corey.

00:49:14.240 My turn to rant.

00:49:15.720 Is that what you're saying?

00:49:16.440 I'm handing off the ranting torch.

00:49:19.560 You're typically more polite and nuanced about it than I am, I think.

00:49:23.220 But there's certainly some material to rant about.

00:49:26.220 And you were the first person I thought of when I saw that coming up, you know, because you guys really like to, with Friends of Science, you know, break down the realities of policies, emissions control, climate change, and those sorts of things.

00:49:37.420 And that announcement from Trudeau and Gilboa on trying to bring our levels, what, 40 to 45% below 2005 levels by the end of the decade.

00:49:46.440 are just ludicrous and i got to get somebody to respond to this yeah i know that's uh totally

00:49:51.880 ludicrous and uh especially when you think the the thing that's not being mentioned is that the

00:49:58.280 federal government wants to bring in 400 000 immigrants so you can't reduce your greenhouse 1.00

00:50:04.680 gas emissions if you're bringing in that many people because every person has a carbon footprint

00:50:10.920 and most of the people who immigrate to canada come from warmer countries they come from china

00:50:16.680 india and the philippines those are the principal sources of immigrants to canada so this isn't a

00:50:24.120 comment about immigrants per se it's about greenhouse gas emissions and how to either

00:50:30.920 reach these targets so these are conflicting and contrary goals it's impossible to meet these

00:50:37.640 targets and not to mention you know none of this kind of reduction can be done overnight you need

00:50:44.680 magical new technology you need a lot of unicorns and we don't have either of those and things that

00:50:51.480 are being proposed as the sort of magical solution like hydrogen well you know it doesn't exist at

00:50:59.080 scale and if you look at the work of samuel for fari who's a chemical engineer he was a director

00:51:06.200 General, a senior official with the EU on energy policy for 36 years. He's written a book about it.

00:51:13.540 He worked on hydrogen for years. It's not the magic bullet because hydrogen has to be produced.

00:51:20.500 And so it's actually an energy loss every step of the way. And it's quite dangerous for public

00:51:27.060 consumption because it's a very tricky gas to handle. So, you know, they're proposing solutions

00:51:33.340 that don't really exist and they're offering it sounds like lots of money but you know 9 billion

00:51:40.000 here and 15 billion there and 1.5 billion here this is nothing to accomplish the things that

00:51:46.360 they want to achieve it would be hundreds of billions of dollars. Well yeah and that cost

00:51:52.080 that they throw out and I mean I see Claudette pointing and saying that yeah they just throw

00:51:55.420 those out to appease the greenies you know they have never met a goal yet but but they can certainly 0.98

00:51:59.700 harm us a lot trying to get to those goals. I mean, we know they're not going to reach that

00:52:03.780 level. It's just, it's impossible, but they can really, even if it's aspirational, harm us a lot,

00:52:09.860 you know, 9 billion, 15 billion. And what they don't measure is the amount of economic activity

00:52:14.240 they would quell and crush and cost of living increases it would put to people in general

00:52:18.620 when they bring in these kinds of policies. Right. And I think the EV policy is an ideal

00:52:24.120 example and uh kent sayer who's a professional engineer did an analysis a couple of years ago

00:52:29.800 i think 2019 and he found that we would have to build eight site c dam equivalents eight to ten

00:52:36.840 site c dam equivalents to meet the electricity requirements just for the ev policy not for

00:52:43.640 decarbonizing all of canada and uh that we need ten thousand more megawatts just for the ev policy

00:52:51.480 so if you think about that i mean site c dam began uh development back in 1988 so you know it's still

00:53:01.400 not done it's fraught with problems it's way over budget billions over budget so to think that we

00:53:08.200 could build eight or ten of those equivalent resources within the next eight ten years

00:53:15.160 is absurd. Not to mention, where would we get that money from? If you look at the policies

00:53:21.420 that have been implemented so far, about the time that Kinder Morgan dropped construction on TMX,

00:53:29.680 that was about the time that Houston Energy Bankers out of, PPHB, Houston Energy Bankers,

00:53:38.200 they they posted in their newsletter musings that Canada's policies were hostile to investment

00:53:46.840 and they said that all of these projects like oil and gas forestry mining all these things that

00:53:53.420 require 20 30 year horizons for development you know nobody would touch Canada because like that's

00:54:00.760 just too scary to have policies that are hostile to investment that are based on whim and not on a

00:54:07.200 clear kind of framework as the NEB used to provide. So, you know, you can tell that with this money

00:54:14.920 the feds are throwing around, you'll only attract green crony capitalists. And my biggest fear on

00:54:21.260 the electrical generation side is that we'll get so far into the EV policy and this transition

00:54:29.960 and find out that we're stuck. We don't have enough money to build more resources and that

00:54:36.800 we can't go back and that we've messed up the grid enough that ultimately people will be using

00:54:43.240 this at home instead of, you know, we'll be going back to the days of candlelight. And I'm not

00:54:51.400 kidding. You know, power prices would go astronomically high. So, you know, it's not a

00:54:58.100 plan. What they've just provided is a bunch of ideology and modeling. There's no actual plan in

00:55:05.780 any of it as to how these things will happen well and that's not as unrealistic you know it's not

00:55:11.220 even just a prop you use that that came up during the energy crisis as it was hitting in europe i

00:55:15.220 believe it was the german chancellor or somebody was implying that that's what they're going to

00:55:19.460 have to do to deal with the crisis this winter is get out there and light candles to cook their food

00:55:24.900 yes and you can make a little you can get these kind of you know clay pots and you can make your

00:55:30.100 own little room heater it does work there's a whole bunch of videos on youtube it does work

00:55:36.340 like to heat a room you have to be very careful so you don't light your place on fire but

00:55:41.060 you know that's what people are being reduced to and of course as ezra levant told us back in 2017

00:55:48.740 he said yeah that's what they want the ndp and the greens they want people to be in energy poverty

00:55:56.660 they don't want them to have access to power whether it be fuel or whether it be electricity

00:56:03.140 yeah the energy is i mean it's everything to us affordable accessible energy is so critical to

00:56:09.940 modern survival and and just it's one of those frustrates me when it gets demonized i actually

00:56:14.580 had michael binion on yesterday from the modern miracle network i i want to explain that a little

00:56:18.500 some people get confused with the name of it you know saying it sounds almost like it's evangelical

00:56:21.380 or something well no but what his intent was in naming that was pointing out that hydrocarbons

00:56:27.140 and petrochemicals were a miracle they're a modern miracle all of these things we are enjoying today

00:56:31.380 these long lifespans these comfortable living this being warm in winter this plentiful food

00:56:37.860 all of it is due to hydrocarbons and and it's so ridiculous as a society that we're trying to spur

00:56:45.540 spurn this miracle and not to mention you know when you look in the global context

00:56:52.020 nobody else is doing the kind of cuts we're trying to do. And if you look at Europe,

00:56:58.580 Europe is dying for more energy, right? I mean, if Putin decides to turn off the taps tomorrow,

00:57:04.100 I think they have about four days, and then they're really in trouble, then everybody will

00:57:08.740 be hauling out their candles. But you know, industry relies on natural gas as well, and oil,

00:57:14.340 right? So then you don't have any jobs. So it's this huge domino effect. And for what?

00:57:20.820 you know we're not even the world's largest emitters and not only that the most recent

00:57:26.420 research shows that carbon dioxide is not the driver of climate change so why are we doing any

00:57:32.500 of this there are environmental things that we can take care of that we have been taking care of

00:57:37.780 like air pollution but you know reducing carbon dioxide is not a gainful purposeful thing to do

00:57:47.140 it's destructive in every way to society. Yeah well and that's some of the stuff that

00:57:53.700 Mr. Binion brought up and he was reading into some of those policies he tried to find some glivers

00:57:57.860 of optimism to be seen within it because it looked like there was a couple of spots at

00:58:02.180 least in that document where they did note that they're recognizing that we're going to have to

00:58:08.900 continue to produce hydrocarbons for at least some years to come so who knows how expensive

00:58:14.100 that would become with their plans i'm kind of wondering this is kind of out of left field but i

00:58:18.180 spoke to a guest as well talk about the bay de nord project off of newfoundland for for oil which

00:58:22.900 sounds very promising and exciting but it's been delayed and delayed as is the canadian way and

00:58:27.380 we're now 15 days away from the next deadline do you think the government's faced enough uh reality

00:58:32.580 though to at least approve this no probably not i mean it sounds absurd but i really don't think

00:58:40.900 that they want to approve any oil and gas projects anymore and that's certainly what the

00:58:47.700 engos are pushing for and you know people don't realize how powerful the environmental groups are

00:58:54.340 in canada how much money they have how much influence they have how well networked they are

00:58:59.780 how many billions of dollars came from foreign funds with foreign directions perhaps even from

00:59:06.420 russia you know it's it's possible that we like europe have suffered from russian disinformation

00:59:13.780 via the engo community because when you look at the russian um kyoto view from back in 2004

00:59:22.260 they were never into the climate change hysteria they put together a very scientific presentation

00:59:27.540 we actually have it on our blog um so you can go and look and see what they think they think

00:59:32.420 that the climate change movement is a threat to human civilization which is effectively what you

00:59:38.260 just said so and they've thought that since 2004 but you know they were maybe very happy to sit

00:59:45.460 back and watch the west shoot itself in the foot while all these engos advocated for impossible 0.99

00:59:50.900 solutions so of course all of our competitor nations in the world um you know celebrate every

00:59:57.780 time an NGO victory happens in Canada. Every time they shut down a pipeline, every time they shut

01:00:03.940 down a project, all of our competitors are going, yes, we'll take that to the bank. So, you know,

01:00:11.740 that's how stupid we are in this country and how energy illiterate, you know, even Jagmeet Singh 1.00

01:00:18.880 has been going on and on about fossil fuel subsidies to big oil and why they're making 1.00

01:00:23.280 more money. If the oil companies are making more money because global prices are up, it's because

01:00:28.920 there's not more Canadian product on the market because the NDP and QB and all these ENGOs have 1.00

01:00:37.000 blocked access to market. If there was more of our supply in the market, prices could be lower.

01:00:42.360 But since there's a shortage of supply, too bad. Well, so who made those oil companies richer,

01:00:51.000 jagmeet it was you you and your engo cronies we'll be waiting a long time before we expect 0.88

01:00:58.280 economic reality to come from the ndp though uh cheryl one of our commenters did point out that

01:01:03.960 rachel notley was actually critical of those goals it's funny but that's because i think

01:01:07.640 uh rachel notley recognizes political reality even if she's not really all that up on economics i i 0.86

01:01:13.560 still always follow that uh wayne hayek's quote saying if socialists really understood economics

01:01:19.960 they wouldn't be socialists so right she doesn't get it but she does know that if she latches on

01:01:24.760 to that there's no way she's going to become the premier again but i i she's all in on shutting

01:01:30.760 down the oil field as much as any of those ndp leaders are yeah of course she was at the zombie

01:01:35.720 duck rally that was sponsored by the sierra club which has been funded by foreign billionaires to

01:01:42.200 shut down the oil sands so yeah it's uh you know that was back in 2010 20 yeah 2010 2015. 0.97

01:01:52.040 anyway it's on youtube yeah well i mean there's nothing like a good economic kick in the butt

01:01:57.880 though to drive some reality and i mean germany was as you know people were celebrating them

01:02:02.360 for a long time these guys are almost net zero they've shut down this they've shut down that

01:02:06.360 but of course what people weren't realizing is they're just piping in more and more from

01:02:09.800 foreign sources to make up for what they've been shutting down i mean sure they're building

01:02:13.480 windmills and putting up solar panels but as with every country that's just a tiny supplement at

01:02:18.200 best uh that reality that now though i mean it sounds like they're they're realizing the error

01:02:23.880 of their ways well the paradox of renewables is that they always go with fossil fuels unless you

01:02:30.600 have big hydro but most countries don't so you know you have to have fossil fuel back up to put

01:02:37.400 wind and solar on the grid so you can i think germany at one point had added like 90 gigawatts

01:02:43.560 of wind and solar and it made no difference in winter when the sun didn't shine and the wind

01:02:48.600 didn't blow so you know that's trillions of euros floating around doing nothing when you could have

01:02:55.240 just built a few gas plants now it's true you know and sadly what's happened in in europe is a

01:03:01.800 geopolitical battle in many ways you know between the US and Russia over the European market because

01:03:10.600 the EU has almost no fossil fuels because they choose not to exploit their own shale gas so they

01:03:18.440 import about 600 billion dollars US worth of oil gas and coal every year and most of it most of the

01:03:26.680 oil and gas is coming by land pipelines from russia now if you want to make peace just make

01:03:33.480 that deal and don't fiddle with it and you know maybe this sounds uh like i'm a putin apologist

01:03:39.960 i'm not i think it's terrible that he invaded ukraine although i think he warned people for

01:03:45.080 about eight years about it but the way to make peace and supply europe with energy is to make

01:03:51.000 a peace deal and make energy part of that deal because it's a common sense solution but if if

01:03:57.880 the us is going to try and drive russia into extinction which it seems like they're trying to 0.98

01:04:02.680 do and sacrifice the ukraine and let europe be the ones at risk europe are the ones who will be 1.00

01:04:10.200 absorbing uh immigrants from war they'll be absorbing uh a potentially battle you know

01:04:18.360 although there may be some very angry Ukrainians who bring that battle into Europe if they have to 0.98

01:04:26.120 escape the Ukraine and they can't complete their battles there. So Europe is being sacrificed and 0.88

01:04:33.000 the US is saying, oh, this is great. Now we're going to send you some LNG from us. Now we've

01:04:38.600 opened a new market for us for natural gas. So it's a very complex geopolitical situation. We

01:04:45.640 should try and calm it down in my opinion and make peace make a deal and you know chaos is next and

01:04:54.120 it won't be pretty and it won't be easy to fix no we've got a terrible situation unfolding over

01:04:59.800 there with bad ends to it and i mean a lot of it as you said it's complicated with a lot of factors

01:05:05.400 all over the place one of which though we can avoid some of these dependencies and countries

01:05:10.040 being stronger energy independence as you said in europe they were shutting in their own resources 0.52

01:05:14.360 well now that left them with less uh ability to negotiate on things when when the crap hit the

01:05:19.560 fan as it did i mean we've got the same in quebec they've got some great natural gas resources down

01:05:24.440 there and they said they're going to refuse to develop them and it's absurd i'm just kind of

01:05:29.160 hoping that again i i know i maybe i just maintain a crazed optimism but we're seeing all of this

01:05:34.920 happening right now what better time to face reality and say the bay du nord is going to go

01:05:39.800 because we need that domestic production on our east side of the country and quebec it's time to

01:05:45.560 get in there and start developing that or we're going to cut your equalization you're not getting

01:05:49.160 any more energy money from other provinces when you refuse to develop your own i don't expect that

01:05:53.320 logic out of trudeau but maybe citizens will start speaking up i mean if all these newfoundlanders 1.00

01:05:57.320 get put out of work by shutting down the beta nord there's going to be some repercussions

01:06:02.200 well you know the this can't go on for very much longer and we can't keep making these promises we

01:06:08.600 We did a video and we also have a post about the monumental financial

01:06:13.340 problems that are facing Canadians.

01:06:15.720 Robert Lyman summarized some tables from a federal government report.

01:06:23.160 You know, we are so far in debt and have such a huge, massive deficit.

01:06:28.780 This can't go on.

01:06:30.760 No.

01:06:31.060 And as you referenced a number of times and yeah, we're coming up on a close here.

01:06:34.880 It's always goes fast when I'm talking with you.

01:06:36.380 There's so much to cover.

01:06:38.040 The Friends of Science site and your blogs have a massive amount of resources.

01:06:41.960 Can you list where people can find that and get more background and all of that?

01:06:45.060 Because, of course, you don't just talk.

01:06:46.480 I mean, you guys research, you are Friends of Science.

01:06:48.300 You have a lot of background to back your points, which is important.

01:06:52.040 Well, if you go to friendsofscience.org, you can find all of our material there.

01:06:56.500 We have a new website, and we'd be very happy to have you take out a membership

01:07:00.860 or be a donor, help support our work.

01:07:03.540 We're a very small non-profit operating on about $150,000 a year from our member subscribers.

01:07:10.980 And we have a blog post, which all of our blogs are a collection of information from around the world.

01:07:17.440 We have a number of pieces from Samuel Fafari, who I mentioned earlier.

01:07:21.860 So that gives you a very good European view on the energy crisis and the challenges with the Russian-Ukraine conflict.

01:07:29.840 And we've got lots of good reports.

01:07:32.060 we put one out recently called deception versus reality which robert lyman looked at the claims

01:07:37.740 of subsidies to fossil fuels and found that there are none and all these engos are just spinning a

01:07:44.860 pinocchio tale so i hope you'll have a look at that we're also on youtube of course facebook

01:07:50.620 twitter linkedin and we'd love you to join in the conversation and share our stuff great well thank

01:07:58.220 you and thank you for coming on and yes folks get on there and have a look there's a lot of resources

01:08:02.860 and it's kind of up to all of us on social media to be advocates for our resources and things like

01:08:07.260 that and friends of science can point you the right way so that hey when people call you out

01:08:11.820 and say can you source that well that's where you can point show that link because Michelle and the 1.00

01:08:16.380 others with that organization make sure that everything's very solid so thanks again for

01:08:20.380 coming on to talk to me today and I'm certain we'll have the chance to do so again in the future

01:08:24.460 okay stock up on candles and toilet paper everyone yeah of course the toilet paper all right nice

01:08:30.400 michelle okay so yeah again just to re uh repeat that's michelle sterling of the friends of science

01:08:37.420 and uh yeah they they do they they speak a lot of great common sense they give a lot of resources

01:08:41.580 one that michelle mentioned at the end and uh that comes into what jagmeet singh mentioned too and it

01:08:46.580 drives me bananas when we always hear that is that myth about our subsidies going towards our fossil

01:08:52.400 field production in our petrochemical sector. It's BS. It's baloney. I ran about that the other

01:08:57.960 day. And the more you can be able to counter that myth as it comes out from people, because they

01:09:02.020 use it incorrectly, opponents to, well, I call them Luddites, you know, they're opponents to

01:09:05.800 modern energy. Use that excuse to shut things down. Oh, if we just stopped subsidizing, it 0.98

01:09:10.060 wouldn't be economical. BS. And it's not subsidized. So get out there on the Friends of Science and

01:09:14.640 you can see some of the bottom line on where those facts really are when it comes to that myth

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01:11:06.680 through a little more news here while we're going through some things uh so yeah getting on to the

01:11:12.080 uh emissions and all that good stuff we've got the feds they're mulling an suv tax proposal we've

01:11:17.380 heard about these kinds of things before they want to punish you for having a large family and wanting

01:11:21.940 to uh take them to soccer games or for uh you know needing that larger vehicle to get through the

01:11:26.980 snowy icy weather to get groceries and things like that if you must drive in their ideological world

01:11:33.380 You should be driving, I guess, an electric car, as Joe Biden said.

01:11:36.100 Just buy a electric car, right?

01:11:38.500 Come on.

01:11:38.940 Well, they want to add a tax on your SUVs, make it more expensive for the vehicles they

01:11:45.020 don't approve of, don't feel that are, you know, being a good citizen, getting back closer

01:11:50.940 almost to that social credit system.

01:11:52.340 How dare you want to drive something bigger than a little Prius or an electric car?

01:11:57.540 We're going to punish you, and we're going to put a tax on that.

01:11:59.960 this shows the sickness of government. They've got to force you into everything. If the green

01:12:08.660 vehicles are that good, you don't need to be punished in having the other vehicles to be

01:12:12.420 drawn to it. You will go there on your own. There's reasons people don't want electric

01:12:17.320 vehicles. There's a lot of reasons. They're grossly expensive. Electricity isn't free,

01:12:21.860 despite what some people want to put out there. You have to upgrade your house. The batteries

01:12:25.660 degrade and cost a fortune. They're hard to service. Their range sucks. They don't work

01:12:31.380 with a crap in cold weather. Aside from that, they're fantastic. Look, maybe they're going to 0.98

01:12:35.800 get there. Maybe the day's going to come where you can get a $10,000 electric vehicle that's

01:12:40.920 large enough to accommodate your family, that you can actually drive on a highway to visit family

01:12:46.060 in another province without stopping every few hours in cold weather to wait an hour to charge it.

01:12:50.620 it won't shoot your electric bill into the roof. But of course, there might also be unicorns that

01:12:55.800 will fly you there too at some point. Who knows? It may come, but it's not here yet.

01:12:59.920 So they're busy driving us away from what we've already got when they haven't developed the

01:13:04.500 alternative we're supposed to go towards. It's just another tax grab. It's just going to make

01:13:08.920 life more expensive for us and it's going to hurt us. And of course, they want to give a rebate to

01:13:14.420 electric car buyers. Look, if the electric cars are bloody good, we'll buy them. Go out in the

01:13:19.180 streets. They've been pushing that horse crap on us for a decade now. Oh, we're going to be 1.00

01:13:23.440 replacing them any day now. We're going to be replacing them. Ten years ago, they were saying

01:13:26.600 we'd be like 30% electric by now. Go out there. They don't even make up a couple percent of the

01:13:30.880 vehicles on the road in Canada. They're growing, but they got a long way to go. It's not even close.

01:13:38.400 So quit punishing people for using vehicles that they have to right now because the alternative

01:13:43.320 isn't there yet, but they're going to throw a tax on your SUV guys. So, you know, on top of the other

01:13:49.760 taxes, I mean, we're in this energy crisis. We're all broke. We're having hard times. And what do

01:13:53.600 we got coming April 1st? Tax increases. The carbon tax is rising based on a liberal lie. Let's not

01:13:58.940 forget the old climate, Barbie, Catherine, McKenna saying we're never going to raise it again. She

01:14:02.840 lied. They raised it again and they're going to keep raising it. And they also lied. Gilbo lied,

01:14:09.080 said it's revenue neutral, said the rebates, some people will actually make more money on this.

01:14:13.320 listen to the stuff these guys will sell to you. You'll make more money out of the carbon tax

01:14:17.480 because of this great rebate program. When it was actually put to scrutiny and committee,

01:14:20.460 they said, no, that's not true at all. You'll lose money. A very select few people will actually get

01:14:25.080 more back in rebates than they put in, but the majority of us will lose money on it. You don't

01:14:30.080 tax something. There's no such thing as a revenue neutral tax. If that's the case, don't take it.

01:14:34.880 That's the easiest way to do it. Leave the money in my pocket. Don't pull it out and then say,

01:14:38.560 okay, you apply and I'll give you some of it or all of it back. Just leave it alone in the first

01:14:41.900 place. We'll be fine. I'll deal with it. I'll buy what I need to. This carbon tax is hurting us.

01:14:48.020 As I was saying to Michelle, energy is everything. Energy impacts your cost on everything. I look at

01:14:54.640 some of these imbeciles. I had a debate with, I won't call him out. He was a former Olympian 1.00

01:14:58.780 though in Vancouver. It was an interesting one. And he was a very good Olympian, not a real bright

01:15:03.240 soul when it comes to energy. And he was talking about, you know, this doesn't impact me. I don't

01:15:08.320 of a car, really. Now, if the whole world went electric, what do you think's going to happen to

01:15:12.840 the bill to turn on the lights in your house? When you increase demand for that power by, I don't

01:15:18.440 know what it would take, tenfold, twentyfold, what do you think's going to happen to your bill? 0.99

01:15:22.840 It's not free, you clowns. You make things more expensive for everybody. What do you think happens 0.97

01:15:29.020 when you put the price of gas up with all the trucks that have to move your product? The trains,

01:15:34.880 They aren't solar-powered.

01:15:36.660 The ships that bring your Amazon goodies,

01:15:39.480 the cute things you want to show down at the hipster bar

01:15:41.840 when you go downtown there to have your organic, locally brewed beer.

01:15:46.120 That, by the way, the initial malt was probably fired with natural gas.

01:15:51.440 Sorry, guys.

01:15:53.160 This is this bizarro world.

01:15:55.240 It's like, I want, I want, I want,

01:15:56.660 but they don't want to deal with the reality that you don't have it yet.

01:15:58.960 We don't have an alternative.

01:16:00.720 And we're getting the policy following, but we've got to look.

01:16:02.960 I mean, Prime Minister Clown Shoes, this isn't a guy with a lot of reality in his world.

01:16:06.760 He's been raised in a cloistered place.

01:16:09.040 He's never had to deal with making bills.

01:16:11.580 He gets an SUV to drive him around.

01:16:14.020 He gets a private jet to drive him around.

01:16:16.300 Why would he know why a family might need something large or a minivan or an SUV in order to function and operate?

01:16:23.540 He doesn't understand how that works.

01:16:25.020 Why don't they just get the chauffeur to drive them? 0.97

01:16:26.920 I mean, that's pretty much the world he's in.

01:16:28.620 Ontario and Quebec love them, so we're stuck with them for a while yet

01:16:32.380 at the rate we're going.

01:16:35.140 All right, let's get on to provincial stuff here.

01:16:37.780 Bill 52.

01:16:39.680 This is something people are getting excited about.

01:16:41.480 It's the recall legislation.

01:16:43.220 Well, I would be excited about it.

01:16:45.120 I'm glad they finally proclaimed it.

01:16:46.460 It only took them three years.

01:16:49.000 The problem with it, and it's a big problem,

01:16:52.360 this will enable people to revoke a representative seat.

01:16:55.060 So this includes MLAs, municipal officials, and school board officials.

01:16:58.620 Cool. I like that. Problem is they've set the bar ridiculously high and they did it on purpose.

01:17:06.480 So to petition, and I don't know the timeline offhand, you only get a certain amount of months.

01:17:11.940 You have to get 40% of the eligible electors to sign an official petition in order to invoke a

01:17:17.260 recall. Now think about the logistics of that. We've got some constituencies where 40% of the

01:17:22.360 electors didn't even come out. You've got to get them. And then we're not talking about,

01:17:27.020 You can't do an online petition. You can't do any of that sort of stuff. You have to get a physical

01:17:32.660 signature on a piece of paper with their address, with their phone number, and their full name.

01:17:39.000 Every one of them, 40% of the eligible ones. And when you go through these kinds of petitions,

01:17:44.080 they'll strike off any that they can't prove their address with. They can't prove that this

01:17:47.400 person signed it. If they phoned to confirm it, they can't. So you got to get more like 45% if

01:17:51.400 you really want to make it happen. And in a short period of time, anybody who's really petitioned

01:17:56.700 before understands that this is impossible. Anybody who's run for office before, you know,

01:18:01.820 like I ran for the Libertarian Party federally, you know, to make some points. It was fun going

01:18:05.820 to those forums and that. But I had to get 100 signatures from people just to get my nomination

01:18:11.340 papers to be a federal candidate. I got about 120. And once they scrutinized everything, I was down

01:18:16.720 to 101 when I brought that into the returning officer to get in. And it took me days to get

01:18:20.980 those because not everybody feels comfortable giving a signature to somebody who shows up at

01:18:25.160 their door and giving their address and giving their phone number. It's understandable. And even

01:18:30.600 if they supported my ability to run, they just didn't want to have that on paper. Well, not

01:18:33.480 everybody's going to want to support the recall. Yet you've got to get 40% of the eligible voters

01:18:39.840 to do that. Most places with a functional recall, what they base it on is 40% or 30% or whatever it

01:18:45.940 might be of those who actually came out to vote in the last election. That shows the active number

01:18:50.800 of voters there, not the large number who didn't bother to come out in the first place.

01:18:55.900 So this recall legislation, don't hold your breath. We'll get to see it happening pretty

01:19:00.940 quickly because I think the people very upset with Sean Chu are looking to get that going and

01:19:06.260 they want to recall Chu. So they're very motivated and they're working hard. Let's see. Let's see if

01:19:11.600 they get 40% managed to recall Sean Chu. I'll lay my bet on it right now. They're not going to

01:19:16.840 invoke the recall because they won't get nearly enough for the signatures. Not that everybody

01:19:20.500 is necessarily thrilled in Ward 4 with Sean Chu. It's just logistically, it is an impossible bar

01:19:26.180 that he has set. He's given you fake legislation. It's garbage. It's not worth the paper. It's

01:19:30.400 now finally been at least brought in on, but it's no good. So either way, I wish I could celebrate

01:19:39.420 it, but I can't. And plus the fact that he took three and some years to bring it in. I guess he

01:19:43.300 just didn't even want the embarrassment of people going out and petitioning to try and recall,

01:19:46.920 because, you know, people will try and recall Kennedy. They'll try and recall cabinet ministers.

01:19:49.900 You do have to set the bar reasonably. I understand that. You can't make it too easy. You don't want people starting the day after election to work on recalling whoever they didn't like who won, and you can't constantly hold these. But if you set 40%, for example, of those who came out to vote, that's a pretty high bar. You've got to be pretty serious about it, and people have to be pretty seriously ticked off to sign on enough to turn that over.

01:20:14.740 It's nice to have that means in those extreme situations when somebody's really crossed a line.

01:20:19.700 But this legislation is no good.

01:20:23.240 The fear mongering is continuing.

01:20:24.960 I was watching the CTV in hushed tones.

01:20:27.400 Of course, they're getting their biologists and everything.

01:20:29.720 And saying, you know, the wastewater numbers, the COVID cases are going up.

01:20:35.200 We've got the sixth wave coming, people. 0.99

01:20:37.940 We've got it coming.

01:20:38.900 This is from CTV with Ontario, too.

01:20:41.260 They're saying it's already there.

01:20:42.360 There's no doubt it's a sixth wave, he's saying.

01:20:44.740 It's being driven by this new sub-variant, and it's our fault. 0.99

01:20:49.420 This is a biologist, an expert, the CTV found, of course,

01:20:52.580 because you can always find one.

01:20:54.460 He says, we've opened the doors to this,

01:20:56.160 and we've eliminated all our defenses.

01:20:57.520 What he's saying is we've got to lock down again.

01:20:59.800 Got to lock down again.

01:21:01.240 No, it's done. 1.00

01:21:02.820 Kiss my ass. 1.00

01:21:03.640 We're done with lockdowns. 1.00

01:21:04.860 Quit going to these idiot experts. 1.00

01:21:06.320 Quit going to not least pet NDP Dr. Joe Vipond. 1.00

01:21:10.000 Quit going to these guys.

01:21:11.560 It's not happening.

01:21:13.020 Look at what the protests were last time, guys.

01:21:15.280 You think there's something?

01:21:16.380 You try and bring restrictions back now.

01:21:18.580 We've got to learn to live with this,

01:21:20.540 as I was talking about yesterday in my rant.

01:21:22.760 We've got to reform our healthcare then

01:21:24.160 to deal with the waves of this.

01:21:26.160 We've got to accommodate this when it comes up and down.

01:21:28.420 Lockdowns are not in the cards.

01:21:30.080 It's done.

01:21:30.760 But nobody seems to have told the mainstream media that.

01:21:32.920 I swear they love this pandemic.

01:21:34.800 Whenever there's any possible negative opportunity

01:21:37.180 to report on it, they do it.

01:21:39.380 Drives me nuts.

01:21:40.500 When things were going,

01:21:41.120 we're getting the daily reports on how many people were in ICU. If the ICU numbers went down,

01:21:46.700 they'd talk about the positivity rate of the testing. If the positivity rate of the testing

01:21:49.960 went down, they'd talk about the deaths over the course of the last 30 days. They would pick

01:21:53.320 whatever stat they could find to make it look bad. They'd never want to report on saying, hey,

01:21:58.280 things are looking all right. And if they couldn't find anything else to say things are doing badly,

01:22:06.640 Nelly, I mean, if they had to report that everything is looking on the up and up, they would search out and find some negative Nelly to go on and try to spread that fear. And usually it was people like Vi Pond and others. They're zero risk cultists. And it's, it's not reasonable, but they're pushing. They want us locked down again, and they're working towards it. So watch for it, guys. Watch for it. The pressure's coming. And it's being headed by the legacy media. When is this ever going to end? When we make it end?

01:22:36.260 What else we got?

01:22:37.260 I guess brace yourself.

01:22:38.540 Interest rates are supposed to be headed up faster and higher than we ever thought.

01:22:42.060 I guess some economists now think the Bank of Canada rate could go twice as high as it was pre-pandemic.

01:22:48.440 Now, this is getting back to straight monetary things.

01:22:51.560 As I was talking to Michelle, socialists don't understand economics,

01:22:54.680 but a lot of people don't look at monetary policy and things as well.

01:22:57.580 Fine.

01:22:58.780 But you got to understand inflation.

01:23:00.740 When the government borrows and borrows and borrows and uses the Bank of Canada

01:23:04.140 to basically introduce more and more money into the system. It devalues the currency, causes

01:23:08.180 inflation. It's the government's fault. It's the reality. When we keep talking about these programs,

01:23:12.800 I get sick of that with people. We just got to spend more here, here, here, here. It comes at

01:23:15.780 a price and it's catching up. Your cost of living is going up and it's because of this, this

01:23:20.440 inflation. The only way the government has to cool that down is to raise interest rates. And that's

01:23:26.840 what they're going to do. They've already raised them a little and they're going to raise them more.

01:23:29.720 And because of this long period of time when we had low interest rates,

01:23:33.280 people, there's a lot of people very heavily in debt, and it's unfortunate, but if they start

01:23:38.640 seeing another point rise in interest and things like that, that's what's going to drive some people

01:23:42.100 out of their homes and into bankruptcy. I mean, maybe they shouldn't have got themselves that

01:23:45.820 vulnerable in the first place, but again, we don't need more economic disruption. We need to cut the

01:23:50.120 bloody spending and get realistic. But either way, my advice to everybody, lay off on the borrowing,

01:23:55.680 guys. The rates are going up, and they're going up faster than expected. I don't think they're

01:23:59.220 actually going up faster than expected uh even though that's what that story says i think it's

01:24:05.620 just that they didn't want to have to admit that and they just can't deny it anymore

01:24:10.020 all right well let's remind everybody again guys keep uh following us on here and um

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01:24:49.820 we can do better and cover more of this stuff i got a good show coming tomorrow i got dr dennis

01:24:53.780 Modry of the Alberta Prosperity Project. I know you guys keep talking about that in the comments.

01:24:59.840 Well, Dr. Modry's coming in tomorrow, or he's going to be on video tomorrow. Anyways, we're

01:25:04.360 going to interview him live and talk about what they're up to and what that's about and what

01:25:07.320 they're doing. And I'll have the Conservative Party of Canada leadership candidate Roman Babber

01:25:12.260 on to speak with me as well. Some might remember him. He was a member of provincial parliament,

01:25:17.480 like an MLA for us in Alberta, in Ontario. He got kicked out of his party well early in the

01:25:22.140 pandemic because he opposed forward on his restrictions and vaccine mandates and things

01:25:26.780 like that. He got kicked out of there for that. Now he's running for the federal leadership of

01:25:32.480 the Conservative Party of Canada. So that'll be an interesting interview as well. I think that'll be

01:25:35.420 the fifth or sixth one of these candidates I've had out of the 10 or 11 they've got. It's going

01:25:40.680 to be a good one. We'll round out the week well. So thank you all for tuning in with us today,

01:25:44.660 guys, and I will see you all tomorrow at 1130 a.m. sharp.

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