00:08:38.060Yeah, where to begin today? Why don't we start with truckers? You remember that CBC story last week, Corey, where they tried to blame Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin for organizing the trucker protest?
00:08:54.280Well, CBC has admitted today they may have got it wrong.
00:09:16.440But as we all know, that is not the truth.
00:09:19.060The mainstream media has got it wrong again.
00:09:20.980In fact, Ottawa police crime statistics show that since the protests started, street crime has actually dropped.
00:09:28.860So it sounds like the protesters are doing a good job of policing themselves.
00:09:36.700Truckers, as you know, you'll be having James Finkbeiner on the show at some point.
00:09:43.020They don't seem to know whether they're coming or going at the border.
00:09:46.740yesterday they decided that they were going to leave and move the blockade to edmonton and then
00:09:52.580they changed their minds about two hours after they initially said they were going so
00:09:58.420they're still trying to figure out what they're doing down there and our legislature reporter
00:10:03.300in amber in edmonton amber she'll be down at the grounds on the ledge tomorrow for
00:10:08.420all the excitement that will no doubt happen. Other stories we've got, Corey, if you drove
00:10:17.040home last night, you probably had a bit of a shock when you saw the price for a liter
00:10:21.820of gasoline. It's now averaging $1.40 in Alberta and even higher in Calgary. So the Canadian
00:10:30.380Taxpayers Federation has issued a plea this morning for the governments to, hey, maybe
00:10:35.600take a cut of their taxes and drop certain taxes. They actually tax the tax. So there's
00:10:44.760a plea for the government to stop doing that. You remember the Bowdoin classroom from yesterday,
00:10:54.860Corey. This was a group of about a dozen kids that decided they were no longer going to wear masks.
00:11:01.360So they were put away and locked down into the school's boot room and not allowed to leave for the day and basically had their reading, writing and arithmetic sitting in the boardroom, in the boot room, I'm sorry.
00:11:17.520That caused some consternation with parents who dashed to the school to see what was going on.
00:14:54.120by the way, follows me on Twitter, so I have messaged
00:14:56.100him. He hasn't gotten back to me. We've heard a lot of rumors.
00:14:58.820There were rumors of the helicopter, which sound like, unfortunately, guys, I know you'll want it to be true, but it doesn't sound like it was true.
00:15:04.580And now there's rumors that he's going to be doing a concert at the side of the blockades.
00:20:03.720who has, as he said, been down at the border for a week now.
00:20:07.600It's quite a dedicated guy, and it's been something else.
00:20:10.820There was so much more we could have covered in that short time,
00:20:13.000but I've just got a packed show of guests,
00:20:14.760and he will be back to talk some more on this.
00:20:17.640Before I go to Renaud Broussard from Quebec,
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00:21:24.040CSSA-CILA.org. Okay. I've held them up a little bit there. We've got Renaud from Quebec with the
00:21:31.400Canadian Taxpayers Federation because we've had a pretty big development in Quebec. So we'll bring
00:21:36.880Renaud in here and, or am I slaughtering the pronunciation of his name? He's going to let me
00:21:41.340know in a moment. Oh, I think you may be muted there, Renaud. You're right. Yeah, sorry. And
00:21:48.820no, no worries. You got a name right. How are you? Okay. Very good. Thanks. No, thanks for coming
00:21:53.100back to the show. The last time we had you on here, and as I said, you're the Quebec Director
00:21:57.380of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, we were talking about the proposal of a tax being imposed
00:22:02.960upon people who have chosen not to be vaccinated. And now I've got you back, at least kind of for
00:22:08.020some good news. It sounds like the Premier of Quebec has relented and they're not going to
00:22:12.260impose that tax after all. Absolutely. And I got to say, it's not very often in my job that I get
00:22:17.040to report on some good news. Not a lot of good news for taxpayers these days, but this is one
00:22:21.300good one. Premier Legault had some sober second thoughts and admitted that his proposal for the
00:22:28.660vaccine tax was wrong, that it was going to be too divisive. It was not going to have as much
00:22:33.380of an effect as he anticipated and decided to scrap it on Wednesday. Great. Well, that's moving
00:22:41.060along. I mean, what sort of pressures do you think came about to make him change his mind on this?
00:22:46.220Was there legal experts or they just, you know, we know how politicians work. They probably did a
00:22:50.060of polling and discovered perhaps that oh boy this is we're going to take a lot of flack for this
00:22:54.380like why do you think they decided to change their mind i think there's a variety of reasons of course
00:22:59.100there were some experts against it their opposition did some work against it uh even the department
00:23:03.820of finance when they looked at it saw that it wouldn't be that effective but i really think the
00:23:07.980people that are uh those that are tank for this are the people uh it was people sending in messages0.59
00:23:13.740with people telling their politicians that this was a step too far and this was both the unvaccinated
00:23:19.900but also the vaccinated. There was a very, very low support compared to what the Premier
00:23:24.780taught for that measure. And the people understood rightfully so that this was the thin end of the
00:23:29.660wedge. If we bring in some health taxes, if we allow the revenue agencies to access our
00:23:37.180private medical data, they're going to start dreaming up of new ways to use our private
00:23:41.260medical data to tax us. So people understood that, people fought back, and the Premier backed them.
00:23:47.260Yeah, well, it definitely flew in the face, I think, of the concept of universal coverage for
00:23:51.220people in healthcare as well. From the taxation front, I believe you talked a bit about some of
00:23:55.300the numbers at the time too. I mean, even if they brought in this tax and they brought in and taxed
00:23:59.240the number of people, roughly what they were talking about for the unvaccinated, it really
00:24:02.380would barely make a dent in the healthcare expenses of the province anyways. Oh, absolutely.0.99
00:24:06.760And the number I was using back then was a thousand bucks. We did get a little bit more
00:24:11.480specific numbers they were thinking of modulating it based on revenue so between 100 and 800 bucks
00:24:17.240and basically what they did is their models they looked at it only about half of the unvaccinated
00:24:22.760would actually have had the tax uh and they looked at what would have been the impact on getting more
00:24:28.420people vaccinated and they just thought you know this is going to be a whole lot of hassle and it's
00:24:33.420not worth the cost there's not going to be that many extra people getting vaccinated because of
00:24:37.560tax and so once again thankfully they backed down on that bad proposal. Yeah well and as you said
00:24:43.500you know let's give a thumbs up to the people who spoke up and pushed back when government throws
00:24:47.440things out there when they pitch things it doesn't mean it's graven in stone yet we can we can stand
00:24:52.800up and you know what if enough of us are standing up they will actually back off we're seeing kind
00:24:56.700of a lot of that across Canada they dig their heels in on points of pride sometimes but when
00:25:01.720the writing's on the wall they'll find an excuse and they will get out so that's a good development.
00:25:05.360Another area you wanted to talk about in Quebec though, and it's something for a lot of our Western listeners, you know, people forget, there are oil and gas reserves in Quebec, there are resources out there. And Quebec has chosen though not to develop or produce from these. What have you guys been looking at on the front there? Is there room to get them to remove those bans or things such as that?
00:25:26.260Actually, now what they're trying to do is to make it a complete and permanent ban on any oil and gas development. So they just introduced a bill. It was introduced yesterday, I believe, to ban any oil and gas exploration or development in the entire province of Quebec.
00:25:43.120And let me be very clear. This is not an environmental policy. This is an ideological policy. This will not reduce the amount of barrels of oil that Quebec needs. This will not move everybody from heating with natural gas to heating with electricity. This is very much an ideological battle against the production of oil and gas in Quebec, which, quite frankly, doesn't really make sense.
00:26:06.000We know that there's a lot of natural gas resources in Quebec. There's a very, very rich basin
00:26:12.000in the St. Lawrence Valley that we could explore, that we could, you know, get some revenue out of
00:26:18.720and get some good paying jobs in the province. And unfortunately, the government's choosing to
00:26:22.800turn its back on that. Yeah. And I mean, for both, it's just odious from an environmental and a
00:26:28.960revenue generating point of view. I mean, when you have a resource that can be responsibly developed
00:26:33.760and you're refusing to it's it's it's just ridiculous and i mean liquid natural gas this
00:26:38.640is one of the areas to not talking about the oil sands in alberta or anything that can be spilled
00:26:42.960even or anything like that this is something that's getting big all around the world we are
00:26:46.480seeing producing companies setting up liquid natural gas terminals and exporting gas to great
00:26:52.480effect and they're sending it to a lot of countries that are burning coal otherwise they're burning
00:26:56.480wood even or animal dung in some places why should we deprive them of a cleaner source of energy such
00:27:02.560as liquid natural gas when they are stuck on on more primitive forms it's actually doing the
00:27:08.880opposite of making the environment any better it's setting them back well absolutely and when you
00:27:13.920look at it even the renewables a lot of countries that are using solar or winds well solar and wind
00:27:21.040are intermittent sources of power and we still need to have power so a lot of those countries
00:27:25.200are reopening either coal or natural gas or other kind of plants so using resources like natural gas
00:27:31.360is a whole lot greener. But I think another point is when you look at it, there's a lot of support
00:27:37.920in Quebec for resource development. The latest poll we saw was from back in October, it was 66%
00:27:45.600of Quebecers in favor of developing local natural gas resources in the province. That's about,
00:27:51.840there was about 20% undecided. So really the fraction of people that is against developing
00:27:56.960these resources very small. Unfortunately, that's not what it looks like when you look at the
00:28:01.920National Assembly in Quebec. Out of 125 M&As, I think there's 124 that say they're against it.
00:28:07.400So you see there's a clear disconnect between what do people want and what do politicians
00:28:11.180think people want. Yeah, well, and as Mark Bass, one of our commentators, you know,
00:28:15.800pointing out hydropower for the wind. Well, yeah, and they got a massive hydro energy resources in
00:28:21.320Quebec, but it doesn't mean you can't produce other things. Even if you're not domestically
00:28:24.900consuming it, you can export. I mean, it's how you actually bring revenue and money and jobs
00:28:30.480into your region and into your province. I mean, nobody's saying stop developing hydropower or
00:28:35.260nuclear in some areas or anything else. We can supplement and bring in more. It's just such
00:28:40.420absurd and expensive virtue signaling by trying to ban the production of these resources when you
00:28:45.460have them literally under your very feet and you're consuming them. Absolutely. And there's
00:28:50.660there's also the fact that having this kind of domestic production allows us to have the kind
00:28:55.140of environmental regulations that we believe needs to be around the development of these resources.
00:29:00.820Now, especially on natural gas, well, both on petroleum and natural gas, we rely on imports.
00:29:05.860Petroleum, thankfully now it's a mix of Canadian and US. We're done with importing from Saudi1.00
00:29:11.700Arabia, so that's a good thing. But when it comes to natural gas, we're still importing from a lot
00:29:16.980of other places there's still a very very big need for natural gas in quebec i actually you
00:29:22.980know right before the pandemic when there was the rail blockades quebec was actually at risk of
00:29:27.460running out of propane and that was a major major issue for agricultural sector for health sector
00:29:34.420so to to have this kind of domestic production that could rely us with clean with clean burning
00:29:40.420natural gas but at the same time give us those jobs and that tax revenue would have made sense
00:29:46.980But to say that we're going to ban it outright, we're not even going to try to put the right regulations around it or whatever else.
00:29:53.880Once again, it just screams ideology rather than actual environmental policy.
00:29:58.500Yeah, well, we've got so many areas of insecurity in a lot of ways right now, whether it's economic or social, unfortunately, in a lot of ways, but also energy insecurity.
00:30:07.140And, you know, it's not brought up often enough.
00:30:09.540I mean, the more local resources you have for generation, the safer you are in an adverse weather event or something like that.
00:30:15.960if there is another ice storm or if there are supply change challenges the chances are a lot
00:30:21.560better that you'll be able to get power and services though to people on the ground because
00:30:25.520we're a winter country we can die if we don't heat our houses and again it's absurd to have
00:30:31.900that resort sitting next to us and not developing it even for domestic needs if not for export
00:30:36.380it is and there's also a cost to it because what we've had before was a moratorium on oil
00:30:43.440gas development for the last 10 years like it started in 2011 no one could do anything but uh
00:30:50.160the um the rights were still sold the rights were still uh still belonged to certain companies uh
00:30:57.120what the government is doing now is going to expropriate those companies of those rights
00:31:01.040uh is going to try and compensate them with a hundred million dollars worth of taxpayers money
00:31:05.760so not only are we missing out on revenue we're also going to pay a decent amount of money and
00:31:11.600And that is not that's that's also not including the amount of money that some of the crown corporations like EVSISMA Quebec here have invested in some of the junior oil and gas companies in Quebec.
00:31:24.740Yeah, you're actually paying money to keep it in the ground.
00:36:06.700there's still common sense people in Quebec.
00:36:08.940we get upset with them, we get on their case and things like that. But there are actually a lot
00:36:14.640of Conservatives in Quebec, the Quebec Conservative Party, actually, if you look it up, I interviewed
00:36:18.920his leader, the leader of it, boy, and I'm forgetting his name. But they're actually second,
00:36:24.440I think, to the NDP in Quebec right now, provincially, and rising, they're doing quite
00:36:28.520well out there. Check them out, you know, we can reason with enough Quebecers, maybe we can stop
00:36:33.440being at each other's throats a bit regionally, and do better for ourselves. I mean, there's a lot
00:36:37.480of common ground between Albertans and Quebec. I think we've just gone about things a lot
00:36:41.580differently. But one thing we certainly have in common is we don't like the federal government.
00:36:45.440The Quebecers have no more love for Ottawa than Albertans do. And the more we can talk between
00:36:50.240each other and get Ottawa out of our hair and allow provincial jurisdiction to come in,
00:36:54.920I think we would get out of each other's regional hair quite a bit more. So I'm going to stop for a
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00:38:23.560check it out. It's well worth it. So we've got a little time before we get to my next guest,
00:38:27.860and that's all right. There's lots to talk about. James, as I said, is down on the border. I know I
00:38:33.600saw, I think it was Cheryl brought up a comment about the word of it. And James, we talked off
00:38:38.580air about it. We'll confirm a little more of that later about the possibility of a bunch of horses
00:38:43.420being brought down there. And that might be where Paul Brandt appears. I mean, it is the area where
00:38:49.260a lot of people do own a lot of horses. So that's very much a possibility if we're going to see it
00:38:54.020anywhere. I don't know. I see James kind of in the background, though. If he feels like popping
00:38:57.960in to talk a little more, I got the time. He can give me a wave. If not, okay, he's nodding. We're
00:39:02.380abusing poor James down there. We're just working the hell out of him. But come on, it's well worth
00:39:06.360it. We need that live voice. So come on in, James. How are you doing? I'm here working on a couple of
00:39:12.020projects anyways, Corey. So I'm strapped in the office for a couple of hours before I get out
00:39:16.800there and start talking to the protesters again and continuing on my work with that story.
00:39:22.740but uh as for the horses uh there actually is a facebook group from um a company they they do have
00:39:30.520professional wranglers that are supposed to be coming down with it now i haven't reached out to
00:39:34.860that group yet um that was something that was on my list to do this afternoon to find out the details
00:39:39.780and actually see what's going on but uh yeah there's just a ton of social media rumors there
00:39:45.780are so many social media groups uh telegram groups uh just uh twitter so and it really is hard to
00:39:54.420figure out what's fact and what's fiction right now um so there could be horses there may not be
00:40:00.840horses um it appears it's likely there will be horses and possibly wagons as well so um i i i
00:40:10.460don't know yet but that is something that we're working on to find out for today
00:40:13.800yeah well it gives all that yellowstone imagery i mean you're right on the montana border we've
00:40:19.100got these cowboys we've got these horses uh and we've got uh ranchers and upset people i mean we
00:40:25.460just want to make sure it always remains peaceful i mean from what i can envision the horse owners
00:40:28.480i know they would take it out for a nice big symbolic ride it'll make for some interesting
00:40:32.900optics uh but how many or what happens well i guess time will tell now that the weather's
00:40:37.800relenting a little on you i think it's pretty possible yeah uh there's a there's a nice chinook
00:40:42.980rolling through. It's nice and warm again. And yeah, we're hearing that some of the protesters
00:40:49.620from the Milk River protest site are going to be riding into the Coutts site on horseback and
00:40:55.900delivering supplies in with them. Now, there has been a call out for some supplies, but for the
00:41:05.000most part, they're good on food. What I'm hearing now is that they're actually concerned with a
00:41:09.480shinook coming through that they may have an excessive food and they may not be able to keep0.98
00:41:13.820it cool anymore um so so that's something that's kind of developing right now um i believe i like
00:41:21.380i i've even heard a rumor that uh adamson's barbecue is going to be doing a barbecue tomorrow
00:41:27.900uh i haven't confirmed that either um so i mean we've got horses we've got barbecue we've got
00:41:33.800Paul Brandt. One of the things that I've seen, though, was that Albertans can't seem to do
00:41:39.860anything without a beer in their hand. And I have to be honest, Corey, there is no drinking here.
00:41:47.320This has been a completely dry event. I have not seen a single person have a sip of alcohol. I have
00:41:54.440not seen any drugs or anything here. These are mostly very religious, blue-collar working men,
00:42:01.820And it's been more about the protest than having a party.
00:42:08.940Well, you know, then that's a good thing to note from the ground, because, yeah, you have a whole lot of people camped, gathered and hanging about.
00:42:14.500And as we know, I've got my share of experience with it.
00:42:17.640We don't get any smarter for the more we drink.
00:42:20.340Often, actually, some of our dumbest notions suddenly become brilliant in our minds and we do foolish things.
00:42:25.860And with a large amount of people gathered in something that still has potential tension and potential danger.
00:42:31.800I mean, if things go off the rails, some people really could get hurt if we're not careful.
00:42:34.740So it's good to hear, you know, it's a jubilant gathering, but it's not an alcohol-fueled party or anything at all like that.
00:42:42.520No, I mean, the first weekend had the feel of a music festival, but I didn't see anybody drinking that first weekend.
00:42:54.440I was going to go on about barbecuing horses later, so that's okay.
00:42:58.740It's, you know, it's been, it's been reasonable.
00:43:01.820And like, even with the RCMP talking to, to the group last night, you know, they said
00:43:07.260the situation is, is so unique because cowboys, farmers and truckers and police get along.
00:43:15.200One of the RCMP was telling a story about a time he broke down in the middle of nowhere
00:43:19.820and, and a trucker stopped and helped him.
00:43:22.600And he said, now we're in this situation where, you know, we're frenemies.
00:43:27.360And I think that's actually been a good thing because it's de-escalated a lot of tense situations.
00:43:34.700And I don't think anybody feels that there is a imminent threat of some sort of SWAT invasion anymore.
00:43:42.000It's more, you guys ask and we'll make some concessions and you guys make some concessions and let's get through this together.
00:43:52.420Let's stay focused on getting the mandates repealed.
00:43:56.020But, you know, there have been some concerns coming out of the Melk River site.
00:44:01.320Some of the landowners are concerned that the lane that's open down there isn't quite wide enough, that there's not enough room to get through.
00:44:08.340I know some of the landowners in the area are having a meeting right now.
00:44:11.900I'm hoping with one of my sources is going to be following up with me right after that.
00:44:15.620But, you know, the Coots group, the original group of protesters have been very good at communicating to the Milk River group, you know, this is what we're negotiating up here.
00:44:28.020Please abide by it. Don't don't do anything down there that can jeopardize what we've done up here.
00:44:34.920And that's been good. And I think that message needs to go out. I think anybody that is coming into this area should be aware that this is a serious protest. This is a serious thing. There's chances for anything to get out of control if anything goes wrong. So please don't drink and drive. Don't bring drugs into the site. Keep things calm. Keep things peaceful.
00:44:58.800Last night, we were told that they were having a hockey game in the middle of the highway.
00:45:02.620Now, obviously, they're supposed to be keeping the highway open.
00:45:05.440As of 7 o'clock this morning, I've seen plenty of commercial vehicles going back and forth across the border.
00:45:12.500I've even seen some personal vehicles coming across the border.
00:45:15.180I've seen a motorhome come north into Canada.
00:45:19.760And the guys at Coots really want to make sure that the guys down at Melk River are doing exactly what they're doing up here
00:45:27.080and working with the police uh i seen earlier some posts on facebook they were thanking the rcmp they
00:45:33.880were thanking the sheriffs and uh thanking the there's conservation officers here and the lethbridge
00:45:40.360municipal police force they said you know you guys have been great you you've worked with us you're
00:45:44.760not working they're not working against them they're not working for them they're they're
00:45:50.680keeping things safe and they're containing the situation and and they really want that message
00:45:56.120to go out to the people coming into the area. Great. And as I've said before, it's kind of,
00:46:00.500it's protesting done right. I mean, there's always potential for it to go wrong, but there's a lot
00:46:04.180of effort to keep this positive. I was going to ask you about that because I keep asking through
00:46:07.580the updates through the week. So there is some traffic getting through the border. Like that's
00:46:11.380the big pinch point. I think that's what will raise the tensions quickly and dramatically.
00:46:14.880Those, if they stop it up altogether and don't let anybody through, then it forces the hand of
00:46:19.540the police and the government. So there's still some traffic getting through then.
00:46:22.960yeah uh this morning i've seen uh um three cattle liners loaded up headed south um there there was
00:46:32.020um there was a couple of trucks coming north as well actually some oversized loads so if the
00:46:37.640the oversized loads i believe the one that i i was talking to at the scale this morning
00:46:41.280they were just checking to make sure that they could actually fit um down the highway and and
00:46:47.820they left the scale so i i'm taking that as they found a route either around the the protest site
00:46:54.220at melk river or the police checkpoint at melk river and uh and there was there was two oversized
00:46:59.620loads that came north into canada this morning so you know uh there there has been still some
00:47:04.540rumors that the highway shut down and and i'm just gonna say if if oversized loads are headed north
00:47:10.900into canada there there's got to be enough room for for traffic and emergency vehicles to get
00:47:15.760through and that's good to know and again we're seeing a lot of smearing of protesters and and a
00:47:21.400lot of misinformation some perhaps real you know at times but we need to constantly clarify that
00:47:27.060like everybody's being communal nobody down there wants to stop emergency vehicles from getting into
00:47:31.540coots or or starving people from coots or keeping them from getting to work and back i think it's
00:47:36.340been pretty cooperative with the locals to make sure that doesn't happen yeah for sure um i i've
00:47:42.060even seen posts on on some of the convoy groups saying don't you dare bring any hate symbols here
00:47:47.920we are not those kind of people this is not what that's about this is about the mandates and we're
00:47:53.480going to stay focused on the mandates we're not sending mixed messages it's one clear message
00:47:58.560and uh and yeah and and they've been they've been good with meeting and communicating with the the
00:48:04.440locals but they do have to be aware that their welcome is wearing out um you know they're they're
00:48:11.060um that some of the landowners are getting concerned about damage to their land and the
00:48:15.500potential of an influx of people over the weekend and the situation getting out of control so they've
00:48:21.360said to people you know make make sure you stay in control manage yourself manage your own personal
00:48:27.700responsibility in this situation come be peaceful speak your mind protest but don't damage anything
00:48:34.960Don't don't ruin the farmers fields. Don't wreck the roads. Don't don't harass the locals. Don't go into their businesses and and fight with them about masking and vaccine passports. I've heard that, you know, some of them do see that as simple civil disobedience.
00:48:52.620But they do have to remember that these businesses have been put at massive risk, massive fines from AHS.
00:49:00.020We've seen AHS go after businesses before that have participated in civil disobedience.
00:55:11.780And if they go into Ukraine, you know, just if we talk about Ukraine for a second, if they do go into Ukraine, from everything I'm seeing, from professionals and from people in the Pentagon, from analysts, this is going to be, at least in the short term, a win-win for Russia and China.0.94
00:55:35.180This will be a win-win because they, I mean, sending a few thousand troops to Poland, which is what they're doing now.0.79
00:55:44.200They're sending a few thousand troops to Poland and Romania.
00:55:47.760And this is on top of the 8,500 troops that are on alert.
00:55:54.000They're sending a few thousand troops in.
00:55:56.840So does that project fear to you or anybody?
00:58:00.520And if they do, I think in the short term,0.66
00:58:02.880and then you have allies, so-called allies, okay, Israel and Germany.
00:58:08.760Germany says, well, we can't send, I'm sorry,
00:58:11.540But we cannot allow any, you know, Baltic countries to send weapons we've sold Baltic countries to sell to Ukraine because of ethical issues, ethical issues.
00:58:22.700Well, for God's sake, Germany has one of the biggest arms industries in the world, and they're selling arms to anybody, anybody, regardless of ethics.
00:58:33.260But suddenly, suddenly, oh, we have ethnic issues with Ukraine.
00:59:03.820I mean, throughout human history, it's countless the millions of people that have died over political leadership on points of pride.
00:59:12.620I mean, whether from medieval wars to contemporary ones, it never just seems to change.
00:59:17.000They invest their political capital into it, and they're willing to sacrifice soldiers on the ground rather than back off.
00:59:24.500I mean, it's an ugly situation building up over there, and it's hard to see where the vent is.
00:59:30.760how are we going to find a way to avoid a larger conflict? Because I mean, expansionist states
00:59:36.920never stop with the first one they take. Neville Chamberlain figured that out pretty darn fast
00:59:42.100back in the end of the 30s. And the rest of the world is going to realize if Russia gets away0.59
00:59:48.420with taking Ukraine, they're not going to stop there. No. And you know, as well as I do,
00:59:54.600that they'll throw sanctions on there, but the Russians will find a way around it.
00:59:58.780They will find a way around it. Germany is not going to shut down that pipeline, that pipeline that they need. They need that. And again, and they consider that none of America's business, which maybe it's not. I don't know.
01:00:14.180But, I mean, you're not just going to, you know, you've got a few Baltic countries, good on them, good on them for supporting Ukraine, sending in weapons.
01:00:23.120And I just heard today that Poland is also sending in artillery and shells.
01:00:35.600You know, so at least they're getting support from a few countries who are showing some courage and saying, yeah, we don't want to be a Russian satellite country again.
01:00:47.500We don't want to go back to the Cold War.0.80
01:00:49.680But it seems like we are heading back to that.
01:00:55.580And I mean, I don't know about you, but I remember, I remember as a kid growing up in a small town, southern Ontario, we had a big, big horn on a post next to our house.
01:01:10.940We had a house behind a garage and it's just, you know, area in Ontario, blue collar, blue collar area of Ontario.
01:01:19.020And every once in a while that horn would go off.
01:05:47.600We don't seem to be on the same wavelength as Putin.
01:05:50.600We don't seem to be. He has his concerns with NATO. He has his concerns. And maybe we can alleviate some of those concerns. But basically, we're at a very, very dangerous time in the world. 2022, February. This is a very dangerous time for the entire world. Because if they go in, it's going to change the whole world.
01:06:14.340Well, yeah, and this gets back to, again, you know, those who forget history.
01:06:16.860I think that most of the generation now has just forgotten how serious the Cold War was,
01:06:21.240living under a threat, really thinking this could happen.
01:15:17.780Well, I'll tell you some things. I know there's some people who like Art Palowski. Fine. He does his things. He stands up for some freedoms. He's got the right to be a preacher. He's been wronged in some things. But he's also a very intractable, hot-tempered man. And he doesn't mind getting his butt thrown in jail. But I'm not sure if going down there and trying to work other people up to encourage them to get their butts thrown into jail is a good plan at this point.
01:15:42.600but he's free to go down and he's done his thing. I don't think it helped, but that's up to the
01:15:48.860individuals down there. But when you've got art involved in things, your chances of seeing a
01:15:53.800reasonable outcome decline very quickly and very dramatically. We've been talking about that for
01:16:01.720days. The government is on their heels right now. I think, this is just theory, maybe I'm dead
01:16:08.420wrong. Even if Trudeau doesn't want to back down, the federal government knows they're under serious
01:16:12.740pressure right now. They're trying to figure out how they can extricate themselves, what sort of
01:16:17.220concessions can be done to bring this to an end. And that has been due, though, to the protesters
01:16:23.140being civil, being good, being effective. You know, they've tried smearing them wrongly, and it's
01:16:28.440failing, and public support for the government has been dropping over that. This is a story Dave
01:16:32.900talked about earlier. It was in Blackhawks Reporter. I think we'll probably get to cover it in the
01:16:35.780standard if we haven't already but uh it's from this is a direct quote so the freedom convoy
01:16:41.280blockade at parliament yesterday completed sixth day so this is a little bit a little bit back
01:16:45.100amid mp claims that lawless truckers were attacking passerbys on the streets of ottawa
01:16:49.640now preliminary data show the police reported street climb actually fell yeah so there we go
01:16:54.860western standard reported on it so yeah i should have more faith in dave i knew he'd have that up
01:16:59.640there but i just wanted to be sure as i'm talking about the crime has fallen since the protests
01:17:05.680began in Ottawa. There's a video I wanted to play. I can't do it. Some of you might have seen it out
01:17:10.620there. I wish I'd written down a name of where you can find it. It's a TikTok video. It's probably
01:17:15.160gone to a few other areas. The problem was there was music playing in it that's licensed music and
01:17:20.040we'd be in trouble if we ran it during our live feed because then suddenly we'd be getting a
01:17:25.020strike against us. But it has the speech Trudeau was giving where he's smearing the people who are
01:17:31.500demonstrating as terrorists, as extremists, as racists, and all the rest of the garbage.
01:17:38.320And meanwhile, it's showing all these clips of people dancing, of people being friendly,
01:17:41.940of people being jubilant, of people being positive. And it's just well worth a watch.
01:17:49.000Try to search it out. I couldn't throw it on here. Because again, as we get this instigation going on,
01:17:54.320you know, there's an imbecile out there, and I'm going to call him that, a complete imbecile.
01:17:57.300His name is David Kleiman Haga. He's a union leader and he writes for the Taiyi, which is a virtual borderline communist publication. I'll say that outright. Very, very hard left wing. And he wrote a piece recently where he outright was saying that it's time for the military to move in, surround the truckers and start forcefully removing them.
01:18:17.480Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That would really end well, Dave. That's a real good idea. Brilliant. That's how you bring this situation down. You know, we've got a peaceful protest. We've got over 10,000 people more showed up in Ottawa, an incredible low amount. I think perhaps what part of what David said about is that we're showing how it's done right. If it was 10,000 lefties, they'd probably still be trying to put out the fires from the windows smashed out and the firebombs going into the Starbucks and other businesses around there.
01:18:47.480And they're upset with this, so maybe they're hoping that they can incite a riot at these things, because that's what would happen if the military tried to move in, when you don't need to, and attack these peaceful people protesting out there.
01:19:01.260And that's how heated things are getting. And some people are pouring gasoline on the fire from both sides, from Art Pawlowski pouring it on his side, and from Dave Kleiman-Haga pouring it on the other.
01:19:11.940So let's keep cutting through it. And yes, Cheryl's saying the federal government doesn't even want to negotiate. Yeah, I know. They've dug their heels in, Cheryl. But they will feel pressure eventually. I don't think Jason Kenney wanted to negotiate on this whatsoever either. But he's feeling cornered. And that's why his messaging is getting mixed. It's hard for these politicians. That's what I was talking with David Makachuk about.
01:19:33.560Unfortunately, they make decisions often based on political pride rather than pragmatism
01:19:38.720and won't back off in a circumstance when they probably should.
01:19:43.200And then it escalates and it can get worse.
01:19:45.740And that's a problem that happens with international diplomacy.
01:19:48.480And that's what we're happening is with these protests all over the place.
01:19:52.120So I'm just looking at the messaging coming from James.
01:19:55.380He's really running around to trying to find out what's happening.