Western Standard - LIVE - Triggered： Canada is under martial law.

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00:00:30.000 good morning it's a chilly february 22nd 2022 welcome to triggered i'm cory morgan

00:00:40.200 what a lineup of tuesday the second month 22nd day 2022 i had a fellow approach me at the calgary

00:00:47.280 protests uh me and eva there and he was talking something about a spiritual sense this is

00:00:51.800 apparently really good luck and such i'm not a real spiritual person but these days we need all

00:00:56.060 the luck we can get so maybe today somehow is going to turn out to be a good day with all those

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00:01:41.180 couple of really good guests today. Andrew Allison, he's a philosophy PhD student in the UFC and he

00:01:46.500 writes columns for the Western Standard and he wrote a column talking about how the Emergencies

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00:03:56.600 takes away what you've worked so hard to take to make, I should say. So let's get on what's got

00:04:02.120 me triggered about today. Canada. I'm 51. Just turned 51 on the weekend. Never thought I would

00:04:08.980 see this. We're formally under a form of martial law. This has only happened three times before

00:04:14.160 in the history of this nation. Once in World War I, once in World War II, and a third time in 1970

00:04:20.180 during the October crisis when the FLQ terrorists were setting bombs, kidnapping, and killing people.

00:04:26.540 Today, we are living under martial law because a trucker's protest took up space in Ottawa

00:04:31.080 and erected bouncy castles while honking horns. Now, some people have been getting upset with

00:04:36.260 the use of the term martial law right now, but I assure you it's completely applicable and it's

00:04:40.360 not an exaggeration of our current state. Here's the definition. Martial law is the temporary

00:04:45.520 imposition of direct military control of normal civil functions or a suspension of civil law by

00:04:52.000 a government, especially in response to a temporary emergency where civil forces are overwhelmed

00:04:56.680 or in an occupied territory. Now, yes, we don't have military control going on right now,

00:05:02.140 thankfully, not yet. But we do have a suspension of civil law, and that is a form of martial law.

00:05:08.300 So don't let them try to tell you that that's not where we're at.

00:05:12.100 The rights of citizens have been suspended,

00:05:14.120 and a majority within the Parliament has now enshrined that suspension

00:05:16.900 in formally adopting Trudeau's invocation of the Emergencies Act.

00:05:20.820 Labour can now be literally forced.

00:05:22.600 For example, a tow truck driver could face fines or imprisonment

00:05:25.140 if they refused to work when ordered to by a police officer.

00:05:28.020 This could be extended in other ways.

00:05:29.680 Who knows where it ends?

00:05:31.500 Will a restaurant be forced to serve police forces?

00:05:34.060 Hotels forced to accommodate government agents?

00:05:36.860 Think of being forced to work at gunpoint.

00:05:38.580 That's literally what the government now has the ability to do.

00:05:42.200 You apparently will be compensated, but the government will be determined by how much.

00:05:45.980 Paid slavery is slavery nonetheless.

00:05:48.380 Compelled labor is slavery by definition.

00:05:51.000 My guest, Andrew Allison, is going to be expanding on that a little later today.

00:05:54.000 The government's now empowered to steal your property.

00:05:56.780 They can seize your bank accounts without warrant.

00:05:59.000 They can impound your vehicles and even your pets.

00:06:01.620 This is all without the normal due process of courts, warrants, and judicial oversight.

00:06:08.480 It's impossible to overstate just how serious and dangerous this is.

00:06:12.120 And for what?

00:06:13.120 The protests in Ottawa are gone.

00:06:14.900 The border blockades have been dismantled and the organizers have been in jail.

00:06:18.720 Things were shut down using local authorities and without the need for the imposition of the Emergencies Act.

00:06:23.460 It won't be hard for local police to keep further barricades or occupations from being set up at this point.

00:06:29.340 So why the need for the Emergencies Act now?

00:06:32.600 Well, in one word, vengeance.

00:06:35.020 The Canadian political and media establishment are furious.

00:06:37.860 Citizens have bypassed the media narrative, ignored the government, and organized protests despite them.

00:06:43.500 Trudeau was exposed as the weak leader he is,

00:06:45.800 while the establishment media was exposed as the shameless trumpet for Trudeau's government that they are.

00:06:50.860 The Laurentian elite has been embarrassed, and they want to punish those who did it.

00:06:54.680 They're now on a witch hunt.

00:06:56.580 The CBC's gleefully been sharing the names of people who donated to protests

00:07:00.080 while the government is ordering banks to seize assets of those they deem to be complicit.

00:07:04.860 They want to chase down and bankrupt every person who dared to stand up to them.

00:07:09.140 And the Emergencies Act allows them to do so now without the controls of civil law.

00:07:13.020 They want to make examples of the citizens who pushed back against the state

00:07:16.120 and put fear into other citizens with the intent of maintaining control.

00:07:20.820 Ottawa's acting police chief, Steve Bell, made no bones about it when he said,

00:07:24.020 if you're involved in this protest, we will actively look to identify you and follow up with

00:07:28.720 financial sanctions and criminal charges. This unlawful occupation is over. We will continue

00:07:34.600 with our mission until it's complete. Well, what makes it complete? When does it end? How far are

00:07:40.360 you going to keep running? Our columnist, Linda Sabodian, by the way, wrote on that at length.

00:07:44.760 Go to westernstandardonline.com and check it out. Now, protest organizer Tamara Leach remains in

00:07:50.460 jail without bail for daring to defy the state. Murderers in Canada are often given the courtesy

00:07:55.820 of bail while their trials await, but apparently this lady presents such a threat to society 1.00

00:07:59.820 that she must remain isolated and behind bars. Her assets have been seized, her ability to 1.00

00:08:04.700 communicate stolen, and her freedom taken. What harm could she possibly present if free? She even

00:08:09.960 indicated in court she would no longer keep actively organizing. She just wants to go home

00:08:13.480 at this point. It's not as if she was intransigent. You know, in bail hearings, they'll usually say,

00:08:17.720 as long as you commit to not re-offending, we will let you out until we get up to trial. But no,

00:08:22.100 they're keeping her locked up, out of spite, to punish. And it's beyond the pale. She is a

00:08:29.080 political prisoner. That is what she is. And we are under martial law. No Canadian citizen should 0.99

00:08:34.480 be treated this way. With the Emergencies Act in place, though, there's nothing to prevent this.

00:08:38.660 Trudeau was characteristically callow, as he didn't even show his face in Parliament to vote

00:08:42.600 on the Act, the Emergencies Act that he brought in, his version of the War Measures Act.

00:08:47.140 They've now given themselves a week off in order to hide from public scrutiny as martial law continues.

00:08:52.520 NDP leader Jagmeet Singh chose power over principle as he forced every NDP member to join Trudeau in his power grab.

00:08:58.960 Tommy Douglas must be just doing backflips in his grave.

00:09:01.560 Tommy Douglas even voted against martial law back in 1970 when the FLQ was setting bombs and kidnapping and killing people.

00:09:09.800 I don't think the classic labor NDP would support this power grab today if they're around.

00:09:15.840 But for Jagmeet Singh, it was more important to stay close to Trudeau than to stand on principle.

00:09:20.740 And it's sad.

00:09:22.260 Protests have been happening across the planet as people push back against pandemic mandates.

00:09:26.740 Only Canada, though, has felt compelled to implement martial law.

00:09:29.840 Provinces, they're dropping mandates as nations around the world are.

00:09:34.540 Only the federal government of Canada appears to be unmoving and refusing to consider lifting the controls they've imposed.

00:09:39.880 This is clearly not about health.

00:09:41.740 It's all about control.

00:09:43.340 And Trudeau now has it.

00:09:44.260 He's truly empowered himself as a tyrant, and being the petty little man he is, he will use that power to crack down on citizens further.

00:09:50.940 There's no telling where this is going to end.

00:09:52.820 How many lives will the government crush in their zeal to end political dissent?

00:09:56.480 Whenever this phase in Canada's history comes to a close, one thing we'll be sure.

00:10:00.860 Canada is broken, and it may well be beyond repair.

00:10:05.400 That's what got me triggered today.

00:10:07.260 It's probably going to have me triggered for quite some time.

00:10:09.100 Now let's check in with Melanie Rizdin, our senior reporter in the newsroom, and see what's being

00:10:14.580 going on. We've had a lot to catch up on after such a busy, long weekend.

00:10:19.900 Good, good, busy. Yes, we've got some stories that we're working on. As you were just mentioning,

00:10:27.280 the Freedom Convoy organizer, Tamara Leach, denied bail. Judge said her detention is necessary

00:10:34.540 for the protection and safety of the public uh we have a link to the story uh eva uh one of our

00:10:42.360 other reporters here had uh had posted a story uh just last week with uh leach taking uh taking

00:10:49.940 to facebook and uh sort of imploring people to stay stay safe stay uh respectful of the authorities

00:10:59.020 to, you know, proceed with love kind of a thing.

00:11:02.960 So it seems interesting with that presence 1.00

00:11:07.460 to have her deemed that her detention is necessary

00:11:12.200 for the protection and safety of the public.

00:11:15.940 And as you mentioned with the vote

00:11:18.460 that happened in Parliament last night,

00:11:20.500 we do have a breakdown on how MPs voted.

00:11:24.040 So if you want to see how your MP voted

00:11:27.480 for the towards the invoking of the emergency act. You can check that out on our website. We've

00:11:34.380 got a breakdown there. We also have a story out on the RCMP are looking into a leaked chat. It

00:11:42.080 was sort of a look like a telegram chat group between RCMP officers in Ottawa. And, and some

00:11:49.380 of the comments through the tweet were, were, I think, quite disturbing for many people, some

00:11:54.680 referring to the the trampling of of a woman as awesome uh and uh another tweet or another message

00:12:03.480 in the in the chain said save some for us uh and another message even said um time for the

00:12:11.160 protesters to hear our jack boots on the ground so uh sounds like rcmp are looking into the comments

00:12:19.080 made by that group um so hoping we'll hear a bit uh a bit of uh more toward that i'm sure when we're

00:12:28.520 talking about uh peaceful protesters being uh you know apprehended by police it would be i think

00:12:37.240 due diligence would would say that police will also need to be uh showing you know a peaceful

00:12:43.640 approach to it as much as possible so some of these statements i think have been very disturbing

00:12:48.840 for a lot of Canadians to see coming from our our authorities. We're also working on a story

00:12:56.920 where a Toronto Liberal MP is tying a link to the term honk honk and Heil Hitler. So we're we'll have

00:13:08.680 that up on the on the site here fairly quickly and working on quite a few other stories throughout

00:13:16.040 the day today one thing i wanted to point out too is the alberta government is back in court this

00:13:20.920 week and it looks like we could see dr dina hinshaw take the stand at some point this week

00:13:28.680 we may see that happen looks like everything has sort of been delayed so if she does take

00:13:34.840 the stand it's likely going to be potentially thursday but we will also see an adjournment

00:13:40.680 until April so it sounds like the hope is they will be able to cross-examine her before the

00:13:46.920 adjournment but I guess we'll have to wait and see how things play out for the next couple of days

00:13:51.800 and on our website we do have information on how you can request a link to watch those court

00:13:58.200 proceedings. Great and before I left the newsroom I know there were some comments it sounds like

00:14:03.400 I'm sure we'll be reporting on it once we get the facts the Rideau Centre has been evacuated in

00:14:07.240 Ottawa right now something has gone on I mean we don't know much details on on what's happened

00:14:12.040 down there but that's right up in Parliament area it's a shopping area for people and yeah it sounds

00:14:17.320 you know it's always serious when you hear about an evacuation and possibly a person with a firearm

00:14:21.720 well there's a rumor that it was a shoplifter I'm not sure if we have confirmation on that but

00:14:27.560 looks like it was a shoplifter I don't have confirmation on whether the shoplifter was

00:14:33.320 carrying a weapon. But certainly once we have all of the solid details on that, we'll have that out

00:14:40.280 on the website as well. Great. Yes, things break fast. And well, we just like to get through those

00:14:45.940 facts. As you pointed out, I mean, it's just when things break on the internet, you get all those

00:14:48.720 crazy rumors and stuff is flying around. And that's why we've got to take our time when these

00:14:52.160 sort of things happen to make sure we get the facts in before we report them. So I'll let you

00:14:56.260 get back into digging into those facts, Melanie, and I appreciate the update. And we'll talk to

00:14:59.700 you later. Absolutely. Thanks, Corey. Great. Thanks. So yeah, with the westernstandardonline.com,

00:15:07.060 I see Nico's brought up the link. That's where you can see the news as we report it and expand

00:15:11.000 upon it as the facts come in because, I mean, everything breaks so quickly right now. We've

00:15:16.800 got a lot of irresponsible media out there. We know that. That's for sure. We've been watching

00:15:20.520 those battles going on on the internet. Say, for example, the very liberal New York Times

00:15:25.760 dared to report that people were being arrested at gunpoint in Ottawa. And the liberal media went

00:15:32.640 bananas about it. Gerald Butts went bananas about it. Oh, you're lying. You're spreading fake news.

00:15:38.180 Well, you know what? A whole bunch of pictures showed up, showed pictures of police with guns

00:15:42.780 drawn on people, arresting and breaking up the convoy. So what do you got here? You've got a

00:15:50.100 liberal establishment media that is accusing others of lying if another media outlet reports

00:15:56.320 something that doesn't fit with their narrative. That's what you have. And that's really dangerous.

00:16:01.320 And it shows a lot. You know, the New York Times is very, very liberal. They are left-leaning.

00:16:05.820 But the thing is, they're not under the thumb of the federal government. That's the difference. So

00:16:09.420 even as a left-leaning paper, they're American, and they can't be told what to do. Like a lot 0.96

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00:18:10.800 So we're going to pop in with our guest here, and that's Andrew Allison, and he wrote a

00:18:17.240 column for us last week.

00:18:18.820 And yeah, Nico's pulled up a picture here just as Andrew gets set up.

00:18:22.840 This was from the Calgary protests that I attended last weekend with Eva and Derek Fildebrand,

00:18:28.580 And I wrote a column on our experience, actually, checked it out at Western Canada online.

00:18:35.220 But also the other thing was the mainstream media didn't even act as if a rally had happened in Calgary.

00:18:43.360 We had thousands and thousands of people on the streets marching, peaceful, expressing themselves in the mainstream media.

00:18:50.260 All they reported on the CTV National was 100 people gathered in Edmonton, which turns out it was actually 1,200.

00:18:54.280 buttered. We've live streamed their whole walk. Check it out on our YouTube channel if you want

00:18:58.500 to see how many thousands of people walk through Calgary. And yeah, we will continue to report

00:19:04.160 things when the mainstream media refuses to. So let's get to our guest here. Andrew Allison,

00:19:09.220 good to join you. Join me in studio. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Corey. It's great to be

00:19:13.080 here. Yeah. So you wrote a column recently. I'll frame it up. And I said earlier in the introduction

00:19:17.440 and in my rant, I was talking about it with, and you're a PhD philosophy student. That's right.

00:19:21.840 So you're looking to get into a career of thinking and examining and coming to conclusions.

00:19:27.660 And it's important.

00:19:29.120 And it's good to look at the longer impacts, bigger things, rather than, say, just a narrow policy wonk.

00:19:34.000 And reading into the Emergencies Act and the ability to force labor, it technically can be called slavery.

00:19:42.580 Right. Yeah, absolutely.

00:19:43.640 I definitely see that as involuntary servitude.

00:19:45.600 I think the Emergencies Act in general has lots of problems when it comes to protecting the property rights of Canadians.

00:19:54.180 With regards to the tow truck example, there's a couple of problems.

00:19:58.720 The first is that they have a property right in their tow trucks, their equipment, and they should have the right to use it as they see fit.

00:20:04.260 You can't force someone to use your property in such and such way, or obviously that's a violation of property rights.

00:20:09.420 But perhaps more importantly is that they have a property right in their bodies.

00:20:13.200 And, you know, if you can say you now must go do this or you will go to jail, then, you know, this is sort of involuntary servitude.

00:20:21.840 They're threatening you to lock you in a cage unless you do what they ask.

00:20:25.540 And I certainly see that as involuntary servitude.

00:20:28.000 Absolutely. I mean, by full definition, and you said it clearly in your column.

00:20:31.760 I mean, you weren't trying to make a direct comparison of the slavery back in the 1850s in the United States or anything like that.

00:20:37.420 But still, technically, it's forced labor.

00:20:40.420 you have no choice by force of law and physical force, if it comes to it, to do what they compel

00:20:46.100 you to do. And that's a scary, scary precedent. Now that's been enshrined in last night's law

00:20:51.540 for as long as 30 days or more. Absolutely. Absolutely. And it's scary stuff. And that's

00:20:56.540 why I think Canadians should be worried about this Emergencies Act and how long it can continue to

00:21:00.960 operate. So what are other aspects of the Emergencies Act? I mean, we talked about tow

00:21:06.300 truck drivers. I mean, there's their seizure of property with bank accounts. We've got a lot of

00:21:09.760 things going on. I feel it's going to be disruptive to the nation in general and in trust. Like,

00:21:15.100 we've got some larger, broader implications of this whole imposition of this act, right?

00:21:19.460 Right. I mean, absolutely. Like you said, you know, the bank accounts could possibly be frozen.

00:21:23.960 Also, the act makes so that the federal government can control the way certain commodities might move,

00:21:30.380 right? Like water and gasoline to the truckers, things like that. And, you know, like I said,

00:21:34.500 this is a massive violation of property rights, something that we think is quite important here

00:21:38.040 in Canada, you're sort of a free Western country. But they can say, you know, you can't do such and

00:21:43.960 such with your property as you would see fit. Instead, you have to do what we decide to do,

00:21:47.700 right, which is to not help the truckers or something like that. And I absolutely see that

00:21:52.240 as a big problem. And if the federal government can enact that, you know, on what seems to be

00:21:59.920 somewhat flimsy grounds, obviously, I'm not a lawyer. You know, you worry, you worry, how much

00:22:04.920 can I protect my money in the bank, right? How much can I protect my gasoline, my water that I

00:22:09.000 want to use the way I want to? So I'm sort of worried. Well, some of the language was disturbing.

00:22:13.560 I can't remember which federal minister it was. It was the emergencies minister. So many of them

00:22:17.700 keep talking. One we don't hear a lot from definitively of is actually the prime minister

00:22:20.760 because when he's left alone to talk on his own, he often gets in trouble. But this minister spoke

00:22:25.840 along the lines and called it like a Trumpist movement and we're going to track down. Like

00:22:29.960 that's love or hate Trump or whatever it might be. You're saying you're going to crack down on

00:22:33.940 people due to political philosophy. That's a big line. We're not talking about trying to crack

00:22:38.320 down on people who have blocked infrastructure or put people at risk. Now you're talking about

00:22:41.240 people who wrong think. Right. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's, yeah, there should definitely

00:22:46.040 be concern for that, right? If they think that you're aiding what they call like an unpeaceful

00:22:50.820 protest or something like that, right? It seems that we, you know, we want to think that we have

00:22:54.600 the sort of right to assemble and that sort of thing, right? Freedom of conscience, freedom of

00:22:57.600 belief. But right, if they can certainly attack certain people just for their position, then

00:23:02.820 then maybe that sort of thing is threatened, and yeah, nothing's going to worry about.

00:23:06.120 Well, yeah, and this is very broad.

00:23:07.400 I mean, where they're talking about how we can seize assets from people

00:23:10.380 who appear to be supporting the protest, well, they don't say exactly how.

00:23:14.880 I mean, they're seizing assets of people who made a donation.

00:23:17.820 Okay, they got that information, which they wrongly got that information,

00:23:21.540 so that's a whole separate affair as well.

00:23:24.080 But where does that stop?

00:23:25.580 I mean, I'm on Twitter.

00:23:26.320 I'm pretty tempted to be supportive of the protest.

00:23:29.640 I'm not an organizer or anything by any means,

00:23:31.740 and I want them to stay peaceful, but would that be enough at some point?

00:23:34.600 Would they say, you know what, Morgan, you've crossed the line

00:23:36.800 and we're taking your bank account?

00:23:38.780 I really don't know, and I think it'll be interesting to see after the fact,

00:23:43.540 because people really will have to try to get back their property.

00:23:47.840 And so I'm really curious to see in the future how that sort of legal,

00:23:53.020 that works out through the legal system,

00:23:55.040 because I will be curious what constitutes aiding an illegal protest

00:23:58.120 with this emergency act, so I'm not sure.

00:24:00.340 Yeah, well, I don't think we'll have any legal recourse until this act is gone. I mean, that's the bottom line of the act. I think they can do this without the need for warrants, without judicial oversight, any of those things. So people with their property seized might have it seized for 30 days, 60 days. I mean, we don't know until the act is gone. I'm certain. I mean, there's lawyers are lining up out the door to get on this because this is just beyond the pale. But some people's lives could be terribly upset and ruined by this as the government drags their feet on holding this act on.

00:24:29.240 Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I look forward to see what's happening. And as you said, it could take forever. And I don't exactly trust the federal government to be the most efficient in taking care of these sorts of issues.

00:24:40.440 No, I mean, they've had about 10 years to try and get their own payroll system sorted out, 20, I think. And they still, I mean, you know, so we can't just blame the liberals that conservatives never manage it either. Government doesn't do anything fast, efficiently, or typically good for the citizens. I mean, part of my bigger worry in this, too, is though how Canadians accept it. Like, I almost worry this act comes and goes, and they don't do a heck of a lot more. But it adds to the sense of complacency. Oh, this wasn't so bad. This wasn't so significant. This wasn't so dangerous. People can't let themselves get lulled into that.

00:25:07.540 I mean, if the government gets away with it once, they will do it again.

00:25:10.960 Right. Absolutely. And that's why I'm really interested to seeing sort of where the court of public opinion lands in terms of whether or not it was legitimate to enact the act.

00:25:21.480 Which I think, you know, like you said, should be a concern for Canadians in general if you're worried about their ability to seize property, to, you know, stop you from protesting a peaceful assembly.

00:25:32.300 But another issue is going to be for the provinces, right?

00:25:35.720 If the RCMP can now take care of that which was previously given to the provinces or municipalities,

00:25:40.760 you know, it sort of seems like this might be a problem for our federalism

00:25:44.160 if the threshold to enact the act is considered quite low, you know?

00:25:49.360 So I'm definitely worried about something like that.

00:25:51.100 Yeah, well, this has put a real pressure on Canadian unity in a lot of ways.

00:25:55.180 I was talking to a fellow, George Clark, actually called me earlier today,

00:25:58.620 but he pointed out something really stuck in my mind.

00:26:00.260 it was interesting though uh we had so much regionalism and a lot of people initially going

00:26:04.300 to ottawa were actually as they were thrown you know derogatory terms or thrown up and saying

00:26:08.640 they're all you know for western independence or anything no but there's probably a lot of among

00:26:11.560 them but it turned into it morphed into actually a very patriotic sort of thing i mean kind of town

00:26:18.740 after town city after city it turned into a flag waving thing at first there were even some of the

00:26:22.020 upside down flags which people were saying is a sign of distress and you're seeing fewer and fewer

00:26:26.360 those you're seeing a bunch of canadian flags we're actually seeing the nation more unified

00:26:30.920 than we've seen a long time but now with this all cracking down on it again we're seeing unity

00:26:35.640 getting shattered all over again you know just i'm just talking to the broader sense about

00:26:40.680 side effects of this whole affair and how it's kind of heading up and down on unity i mean the

00:26:44.360 bloc quebecois of course is very strongly opposed to the use of martial law and the imposition of

00:26:49.160 the emergencies act uh and of course westerners are always upset with federal incursion as you

00:26:54.360 You said now the RCMP might be stepping in on provincial turf.

00:26:58.120 This sort of move could shatter national unity.

00:27:02.180 I mean, absolutely.

00:27:02.980 I mean, you know, the wounds of 50 years ago, it's still not healed, right?

00:27:06.840 You know, I see you say the bloc, of course, is opposed to it.

00:27:09.960 And I understand why, right?

00:27:11.660 This seems like an intrusion of like a centralized federalism, you know, where maybe the province

00:27:17.720 has preferred a more decentralized system.

00:27:19.620 And I'm certainly worried about something like that.

00:27:22.380 uh one at least positive note that i see uh from the public uh response to this is uh i see a lot

00:27:28.940 of people saying oh it's not the same as the war measures act you know when they were uh running

00:27:33.260 around arresting people but at least maybe there's a public conscience now that sees there was

00:27:37.020 something wrong with that 50 years ago yeah right so i'm at least sort of seeing if people rushing

00:27:41.660 to defend to say oh this isn't as bad as the war measures act that at least though it's taken half

00:27:46.140 a century maybe uh some people have seen the uh how horrible that war measures act really was well

00:27:51.180 it was a form of martial law i mean the emergencies act is just the rebranded war measures act and i

00:27:56.140 know there were some some changes made to the act itself as well it's not a complete carbon copy

00:28:01.020 with a new name but the principle is the same it's a means to suspend common civil rights in

00:28:06.780 the event of an emergency i mean it can be somewhat acceptable in a sense i mean if the

00:28:11.660 aliens are invading if the zombies are coming up out of the ground if if if there really was

00:28:16.860 a province that had a violent insurrection of armed people you know taking over a town or a city

00:28:22.700 this is nothing even close to that not even vaguely close to that and the president's

00:28:26.540 been said that you can impose this thing on a relatively minor ground yeah and i like i said

00:28:30.780 i think that's incredibly scary for individual canadians i think it's incredibly scary for the

00:28:34.540 provinces um if you know those powers that they think are provincial or more local um can be

00:28:39.820 stripped away so easily so i really do uh not look forward to um but i am very interested in seeing

00:28:46.220 how public opinion will say, you know, was this legitimate to enact the act at this point?

00:28:50.780 Yeah, so I'm curious. Yeah, and we're seeing also, well, we're going to see provincial opinions. I

00:28:55.420 mean, seven out of 10 premiers opposed the imposition of this act. That didn't make enough

00:28:59.340 news. I mean, I grouse a lot about the news as it is, but that should be very significant. That

00:29:03.580 should be saying, wow, like that's the threshold to change the constitution. And yet still,

00:29:10.460 without a thought, the federal government said, no, I don't care what seven out of 10 premiers

00:29:14.060 say, we're bringing this in. And Jason Kenney, to his credit, has launched a court challenge now

00:29:19.140 against this. But these court challenges again, I mean, right now, the person who can't make their 0.99

00:29:23.680 mortgage payment is in trouble. Right now, Tamara Leach is locked in jail. Right now, you know, 0.93

00:29:29.140 property is being seized, even dogs. I mean, that was one of the things they put out is we could

00:29:32.680 take your dog and if it's not claimed, yeah, because it's just property. And if they're not

00:29:37.380 claimed after eight days, they said, well, we'll do whatever we do with dogs when they're claimed

00:29:41.100 for too long. This is not minor, especially if it doesn't impact the individual Canadian. I guess

00:29:45.760 that's what I want to see. Just because you're comfortable at home and it doesn't seem like a

00:29:48.940 big deal to you. Do enough Canadians look at the broader sense, though, of how important this is?

00:29:53.840 I mean, that apathy of a spoiled public, I think we kind of get. It didn't impact me,

00:29:58.640 so it's not such a bad thing. I'm not going to get upset about it. I worry about that attitude

00:30:02.400 entrenching with people. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm curious what will happen five, 10 years,

00:30:06.820 50 years down the road, right? Will people look at this as like a horrific thing as maybe we're

00:30:12.300 starting to do now with Trudeau senior? I really am curious. And I think we're going through really

00:30:17.820 a historic moment in Canadian history. And I really hope that, you know, public opinion can

00:30:22.300 sway to see that this is, this is not the sort of thing that we want to do in sort of a free

00:30:26.420 country, I think. No, I mean, there's other implications. I mean, it's almost a little

00:30:31.440 unfair on Justin Trudeau. Okay, he's got to follow in the footsteps of his father, you're in the

00:30:35.280 shadow of a man who was a large part of Canadian history, not a real popular man out here in the

00:30:39.400 West, but I mean, there's no denying that he was a piece of Canadian history and a significant one.

00:30:45.560 And he's well known for his just watch me moment when he dealt with the FLQ. And I think perhaps

00:30:50.300 the prime minister, the current one, Justin feels, well, I've got to have my just watch me moment too.

00:30:56.380 And I don't care if it's as pressing as the FLQ October crisis. I'm going to invoke this act

00:31:01.660 because I want to go down in history like dad,

00:31:03.360 and I don't think history is going to view them that way.

00:31:06.120 No, no, I think you're right.

00:31:07.420 I think that's certainly a possibility,

00:31:09.040 and I am very optimistic about the future,

00:31:12.060 and I feel that just as we don't look positively now on the War Measures Act,

00:31:15.380 or at least many don't,

00:31:16.960 I think that the same can be said about the Emergencies Act in 2020.

00:31:21.340 Yeah, history might not look kindly,

00:31:22.880 but I'm hoping maybe that we can learn to get some positives out of this then

00:31:25.260 and then bring in some more checks and balances.

00:31:27.860 That's right.

00:31:28.220 That's part of the problem. 0.68

00:31:29.180 You know, we've got a Senate that's appointed,

00:31:30.820 So they're not going to be that check on this that we would hope or that it was even modeled to be.

00:31:35.860 It's not really a chamber of sober second thought.

00:31:38.180 They're appointed by the prime minister.

00:31:39.880 Some people even talk about the governor general intervening, but, you know, that's just a figurehead.

00:31:43.600 I mean, it's just theoretical power.

00:31:45.860 And our courts are appointed.

00:31:47.200 Like, we have, unfortunately, not a really good means of stopping something if a prime minister gets out of control.

00:31:53.880 Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:54.900 And, you know, you're right.

00:31:56.960 Canadians are going to have to look at the federalism that they've been given, right?

00:32:00.420 And we're going to have to start wondering if there's a place at all for the federal government to usurp those powers from the provinces or from the individual, right, the right over your property, right over your person, if there's a place at all for that in Canada.

00:32:12.040 And like you said, you know, hopefully, hopefully people will start to see that there's maybe not a place for that at all.

00:32:19.500 I hope so.

00:32:20.040 I mean, we need reasoned discussion in a time when there's not been a lot of it going on.

00:32:23.600 I mean, I believe in the need for an Emergencies Act.

00:32:25.840 Right.

00:32:26.640 Again, I mean, there could be all sorts of crazy disasters.

00:32:28.940 I mean, we're back in the Cold War days. Russia is expanding into Ukraine. You know, things can happen. 0.83

00:32:35.380 A government needs an ability to pivot quickly, respond to something.

00:32:39.660 I mean, that's how it sort of was modeled with this. You could start it off for seven days, but then you needed parliamentary oversight.

00:32:46.100 I think we need some more oversight.

00:32:47.860 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I wish I had some perfect institutional answer for you, right?

00:32:52.800 Oh, we'll just put this check here and this balance here.

00:32:54.960 Yeah, I'll corner the lawyers with that when I get them in as guests. You're the philosopher here. You know, I'm just trying to think of a general Canadian psyche and thoughts because, I mean, public figures tend to follow public opinion. They try to mold public opinion. It's an ongoing game. But as you said, history may not look back wisely or well on this, but how far into history are we going to have to go before Canadians say, wow, that was a piss poor idea.

00:33:17.580 Yeah, that's absolutely the scary thing, right? And certainly it seems public opinion now so far, you know, with Trudeau generally. And, you know, I'm sort of curious to see who those maybe like NDP supporters might feel about this, right? With Singh and the NDP coming out supporting the act, you know, the left, they have a few people that really might correctly view this as sort of tyrannical, right?

00:33:41.900 And I wonder if it might be, you know, the voices on the left and the right might come together on this, but it's those, you know, that large majority that maybe doesn't see it that way.

00:33:52.980 Well, I'm really hoping to see some break ranks.

00:33:54.560 The Canadian Civil Liberties Association, they are not a conservative organization by any measure, and they have come out strongly against this, very strongly.

00:34:00.960 I mean, they understand most of the more contemporary examples we've seen in North America of the government cracking down on free assembly and protest have been cracking down against left-wing protests.

00:34:11.200 So, I mean, they understand this could be turned against them and probably will in the future if we allow it to happen now.

00:34:17.680 Oh, of course. Absolutely. I think that there's definitely a fear of that.

00:34:22.480 And hopefully that some maybe those who remember time further back when certainly they were cracking down on leftist protests and leftist assembly a lot more than maybe conservative assembly or something like that, that they'll see that this is a problem.

00:34:36.780 But I'm not sure, maybe younger folks, people maybe my age, they think, you know, this is what's best, right?

00:34:43.700 You know, you've got to stop those right-wingers.

00:34:46.320 Yeah, well, you get a little taste of tear gas and your perspective changes really quickly.

00:34:50.000 It's not a pleasant experience.

00:34:53.500 Boy, just crazy times.

00:34:55.060 Anyways, as you said, I mean, I appreciate that you want to look forward to things with optimism, though.

00:34:58.320 I mean, hopefully we can polish this turd and bring something decent out of what is a very strange turning point in Canadian history, I guess, is the best way to put it.

00:35:08.900 So we look forward to more columns from you.

00:35:11.220 And where else can people find information on what you're up to and what you're doing?

00:35:14.880 I'm on Twitter at Andrew D underscore Allison.

00:35:18.460 And if you're an academic, cite me because that would be a real help to my career.

00:35:22.660 Oh, yes. You need those things for that PhD.

00:35:25.040 That's right. That's right.

00:35:26.020 Well, I really appreciate you coming in today.

00:35:28.040 And, you know, lending a perspective on, again, these crazy times.

00:35:31.220 We just need as many people to sit and think for a minute, I think, before acting.

00:35:36.020 That's right.

00:35:36.800 Well, thank you so much for having me on.

00:35:38.220 It's been great.

00:35:39.220 Thank you so much.

00:35:39.880 Great.

00:35:40.140 Okay.

00:35:40.320 We'll talk again soon.

00:35:41.460 Take care.

00:35:43.680 Okay.

00:35:44.140 So that was Andrew Allison.

00:35:48.460 He has written a column recently for the Western Standard.

00:35:51.440 And as you can see, he's definitely putting thought into this as we need more people to do.

00:35:55.700 And I really appreciated that perspective out of them.

00:35:58.580 You know, it's just so critical that we start examining this rather than too far down on

00:36:03.960 the historical road and do it sooner rather than later.

00:36:07.980 So, yes, I see lots of comments.

00:36:09.980 I know I haven't gotten to too many.

00:36:11.300 And again, another good guest I'm going to have coming up in a little while is going

00:36:14.140 to be Michael Johns.

00:36:15.000 He's going to be on in about 12 minutes.

00:36:17.040 And he, you know, again, was a co-founder of the Tea Party.

00:36:20.400 Whether you agreed or disagreed, talk about a man who was a part of a large movement that

00:36:24.180 really shook things up in a much larger country than ours. That took planning, that took

00:36:28.700 organization. This convoy was different. This was organic. This was more ground level. I think

00:36:36.740 that's part of what scared the state and the establishment so much about it. You can't see

00:36:40.720 it coming. Nobody saw it coming. That's part of what's so infuriating with Tamara Leach.

00:36:45.320 You look at statements from her, as Melanie was talking about on the news, there's videos out 1.00

00:36:50.000 there. She was constantly calling for peaceful protest. She's never been a known agitator.

00:36:55.680 She's got no, to my knowledge, criminal records or anything like that behind her. 0.66

00:36:59.740 And she's locked up. They say she's a danger to society. She just wanted to start a fund up 1.00

00:37:06.740 initially that she felt was going to raise $10,000 or $100,000 to help the truckers convoy. And it

00:37:11.380 snowballed into a massive movement, of course, where we got millions and millions of dollars

00:37:17.920 donated and then seized and then held and then all of this craziness because again the state

00:37:23.220 doesn't want to allow us to organize outside of what they feel is appropriate you're going to

00:37:27.860 remember those those fundraising sites were shut down before the emergencies act was imposed so it

00:37:33.080 does a couple of things for one i don't think they should have been able to pressure and shut

00:37:35.900 them down but the government didn't need that hammer they didn't need that ability to cut things

00:37:41.900 off they didn't need the emergencies act to do it but they still pursued it and got it you know

00:37:47.380 some of the other absurdity going on out there. Honk honk. You know, if you go on social media,

00:37:52.340 if you go on Twitter, you see a lot of people throwing that out there. God. And this actually,

00:37:56.660 now we got liberal members of parliament. You got to remember, we have a prime minister who

00:38:00.080 called a Jew a Nazi and hasn't apologized for it. He did. He literally did. Covered that the other

00:38:05.480 week. That's how insane that man is and how stupid he is and how insensitive he is. So it's no 1.00

00:38:11.780 surprise when his own lackeys will go on and spread the other crap. So honk honk, people have 0.99

00:38:18.060 jokingly, you know, whenever Trudeau would tweet something or something, I did it. I'd tweet back

00:38:22.040 at him, just honk honk. It's just my way of dismissing you, and I'm not thinking highly of

00:38:25.180 you. And of course, it's referencing the honking of the horns in the trucker's convoy. Well,

00:38:30.740 some 4chan thing or something hidden way down in the bowels of the internet. You know, if you dig

00:38:35.280 in the bowels of the internet, you're going to find some nasty stuff. You always do. So you can

00:38:38.860 find anything anywhere. So somebody found a 4chan reference or something. Let's say honk honk is

00:38:43.740 actually code for hail Hitler. Come on. Fine. You know, you can see imbeciles throwing that out on 0.70

00:38:49.880 Twitter and all over the place out there. But to have a liberal member of parliament say that now, 1.00

00:38:54.720 really, this is our leadership. This is the person, one of the people who voted to determine

00:39:00.100 whether or not to invoke the emergencies act upon Canadians to bring in martial law. And he calls

00:39:05.120 honk, honk, a Hail Hitler thing. This is the level of discourse we've got going on in our government

00:39:11.740 right now. And it's disturbing. These are the people now who control our lives and control our

00:39:16.820 lives beyond what civil law protected us with. That's really frightening. These are shallow,

00:39:24.440 tyrannical people. And you know, what was it? Let's talk about stupid Twitter accounts. How

00:39:28.860 about Ed the Sock? For those old enough to remember, he was some sort of joking commentator

00:39:34.240 on music videos, and he tried to get the Twitter army going because they're upset because people

00:39:38.040 are calling Trudeau a tyrant. Look it up. Just like with martial law, guys, if you look at the

00:39:43.380 definitions of what it is, it is a tyrant. It is a tyrancy right now, a tyranny. It fits the

00:39:50.180 definitions. It's not an exaggerated word. The government has seized power over the people

00:39:54.020 beyond democratic controls. That's the Emergency Act. So let's quit letting the establishment

00:39:59.240 media and politicians try to sugarcoat this thing. It is serious. It's very serious. I kind of worry,

00:40:06.840 you know, when I was talking to Andrew about that, if it just kind of comes and goes quietly,

00:40:10.740 that a lot of Canadians think, oh, that wasn't so bad. Of course, they're not the ones who got

00:40:13.260 locked up and had their property seized and their lives ruined. But this can't be let go as a minor

00:40:20.800 thing. There's the text that Nico just pulled up, the text from the Emergency Act. Imposed,

00:40:26.020 if it's something seriously endangers, the lives, health, or safety of Canadians in such proportions

00:40:30.240 exceed the capacity of authority in the province. That never happened. It has not happened. But they

00:40:35.840 got away with it anyway. So that means they can get away with it with a minor reason again in the

00:40:41.100 future. And if they do, they will. Governments love power. They love control. That's what they're

00:40:46.640 about. A person goes into politics to gain the ability to control other people. And now they

00:40:53.200 have martial law in Canada. You know, some of the best coverage, like I said, with the New York

00:40:57.800 Times is a left-wing publication. But some of our other best coverage has been from Fox News,

00:41:01.860 because Canada's coverage has been crap. It's Pravda. And yeah, I traveled to the Soviet Union 0.98

00:41:07.660 back in 87. I got to see the control of information over there. There was a columnist

00:41:14.000 who brought that up on Twitter and pointed it out, said, you know, I've never seen something

00:41:19.840 like the CBC with how bad it's gotten where basically they just parrot what the government

00:41:23.800 tells them to say. Bad enough we pay those guys one and a half billion a year, but they are a

00:41:31.160 state broadcaster. They get so upset. Oh, there was one, what's her name? Dunn. She's a CBC

00:41:37.480 journalist. He gets so mad when I kept calling her the state broadcaster and then the state

00:41:40.940 broadcaster. That's not, we're a national broadcaster. No, you are a state broadcaster.

00:41:45.020 You do as the government tells you, and it's showing in your writing and the garbage you're 1.00

00:41:49.960 feeding to Canadians. We've got to pay $1.5 billion a year to get misinformation and propaganda from 0.98

00:41:55.760 you clowns. We are in trouble. We're in trouble. Before I get to my next guest, as soon as he gets 0.99

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00:43:27.240 it was a gong show. Derek and I were running around like hammerheads, trying to find the

00:43:30.340 right spot to get up there and film this thing and live stream it as it went by. I'm so glad

00:43:34.320 we did though. I'll give it to Derek for getting on my case and getting us set up in the right spot.

00:43:38.340 If you go to our YouTube channel, you'll see it up there. I don't know if you want to watch the

00:43:42.100 whole 20 minutes, but to see that stream of thousands of people walking towards the truck

00:43:48.260 chanting freedom, occasionally chanting Western Standard, we appreciated that support.

00:43:53.920 But it was so positive. Like, you see, that's what we've got to cut through with the media

00:43:58.960 narrative. You know, they'll always find the lone lunatic. When you get a few thousand people 0.73

00:44:02.460 together, you're going to get somebody extreme in the bunch. And if you search them out, you can

00:44:06.160 try and paint the rest as being extreme. That was not happening. Everything was so positive,

00:44:10.400 so upbeat, and so determined. And there was no damage. You know, a lot of past protests,

00:44:16.100 when you have thousands of people walking by all those businesses like they did on 8th Avenue and

00:44:19.240 all the way around, you'll get smashed windows, you get graffiti, you get thefts. It happens.

00:44:22.980 Not with this. Not at all. It was all upbeat, enthusiastic. Eva took some fantastic pictures.

00:44:31.200 If you look at the news on westernstandardonline.com, she wrote some great stories on it.

00:44:34.660 and again, it was completely ignored by the mainstream media. They only want to pretend

00:44:39.380 that there are violent, extreme protests happening across the country. They want to

00:44:45.360 feed the narrative for the federal government to keep this emergency act going. We're in grave

00:44:49.860 trouble. The other thing they've talked about is countering misinformation. Now think about C-11.

00:44:55.460 That's the bill that the government wants to impose to control broadcasts. They want to control

00:45:00.100 shows like this one which is now brings me up to a good time to remind you get on to rumble if

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00:45:59.420 that's fine, but that's where I vent. And I also share news items and things like that at Corey

00:46:02.780 B. Morgan. And if you want to interact with me, I get more time to see the comments on there than

00:46:06.620 on here when they're flying by, which is great. But yeah, we've got punishment going on. You know,

00:46:11.780 somebody's Jade saying, feeling bad for the truckers being punished. It's just sickening.

00:46:14.900 It is. Like I said, the protests are gone, but they're still chasing them. They're after them.

00:46:19.660 They're hounding them. They're threatening them. And they're threatening anybody who supports them.

00:46:23.360 This is unprecedented. Have we ever seen this before? Did we see anybody going out? Two years

00:46:30.640 they've been protesting on the coastal gas link pipeline right now, threatening, getting violent.

00:46:36.700 I mean, recently 20 of them, eco-terrorists attacked a work camp up there. Is the government

00:46:42.580 threatening to chase them down? Is the government saying, we're going to find you, we're going to

00:46:45.980 seize your money, we're going to seize the money of anybody who funded you guys,

00:46:49.040 We're going to take your property. No, no, the cowardly government won't touch them.

00:46:53.280 Caledonia, they've had an illegal occupation going on there for something like 10 years.

00:46:57.740 Government's not going there. They're not talking about seizing property there.

00:47:02.120 Why? For one, it'd be more trouble it's worth to them because there's a hornet's nest out there

00:47:06.320 in Caledonia. That'd be another roll cut. But for another thing, it doesn't feed the government's

00:47:10.980 narrative. It doesn't feed what they want to see. And that's control of anything. You know,

00:47:15.360 So this turns right and left. Unfortunately, to a degree, some of it comes to that. Most of the people in these marches and these protests tend to be conservative minded thinkers. Why is that? It's not this fake movement of white supremacy by any means. I'm getting sick of that, you know, and all of that trash trying to dismiss citizens getting up and standing up for themselves.

00:47:36.720 The difference is conservative-minded people want to be left alone. 0.91

00:47:41.600 They just want to make their own decisions and their own choices.

00:47:45.720 People who have that left-leaning mindset, they're comfortable with government control.

00:47:51.060 They're all right with it.

00:47:51.860 In fact, they want it.

00:47:53.000 Please, government, take care of me.

00:47:54.780 Please tell me how to live.

00:47:55.960 Tell me what to do.

00:47:57.320 I will comply.

00:47:58.780 And that's why they are happy with seeing these protests shut down.

00:48:01.920 I mean, it should be all about personal choice and medical safety.

00:48:05.620 but instead it really has turned to do a left-right thing and that's the basis of it though that's the

00:48:09.580 mindset that conservative-minded people and libertarian-minded people are saying just just

00:48:14.080 get out of my hair let me choose people like me and I know I'll watch the comments there's somebody

00:48:17.760 gets mad every time I say but yes I chose to get vaccinated and I don't regret it but I want to

00:48:22.320 make sure everybody has a choice they have to have a choice that's the integral part that's

00:48:27.220 what's got me worked up and people should be allowed to say no they shouldn't be demonized

00:48:31.540 shamed, chased out of their workplace. They shouldn't be banned from travel. They shouldn't

00:48:35.800 have their children banned from going to sporting events. They shouldn't be banned from even going

00:48:39.920 to restaurants. But that's what's been happening. That choice has been taken out of their hands.

00:48:44.740 Now, conservative-minded people have a problem with that. Socialists? Eh, well, if the government

00:48:50.540 tells me, I'm all right with it. Okay, I think you guys have heard enough of me ranting for a little

00:48:55.580 while. I'm going to bring somebody in with some more nuanced thought and commentary on this whole

00:48:59.460 thing we've got our guest michael johns in the lobby let's pull him into the stream and get

00:49:04.200 another perspective hi uh there michael how's it going down there well it's a struggle but let me

00:49:10.960 just say it's a it's a great honor to be back with you and nice to talk to you again it's been a while

00:49:15.140 yeah i appreciate it i believe it was last summer we had you on for a little while and that's when

00:49:18.660 our show was really just in its its formative uh place we we shut it down for a while and we've

00:49:22.920 rebooted and uh our quality and audience are much better than they used to be so i appreciate you're

00:49:28.340 coming back to talk to us today. Yeah, you know, I've had an opportunity to speak with your,

00:49:33.200 I don't want to call them colleagues at the CBC. And I have to say of all of the global media

00:49:39.380 outlets, I don't think I've ever seen more closed mindedness of any media outlet in the world. And

00:49:46.940 so when I look at Canada, it's so essential that conservative voices be heard and that you have

00:49:55.640 mediums through which to present them and you know look this uh there is no there's never

00:50:03.320 been a political consensus in canada behind trudeau or the liberal party uh and it's it's

00:50:09.400 eroding rapidly um don't just you know my guidance really to all the people of canada is don't just

00:50:17.320 allow that to happen realize that you have to be proactive in your leadership and offer solutions

00:50:22.680 and that's why uh i'm impressed but not surprised to see the great leadership that's been coming out

00:50:28.680 uh with this trucker convoy up there and uh which is you know against all the odds because it's

00:50:34.520 being misrep misrepresented and uh the crackdown on it is is utterly absurd and uh anti-democratic

00:50:41.880 in my view yeah well that's where i appreciate your voice because you've got of course a deep

00:50:46.200 experience in in challenging the establishment and in organizing with the means you have at

00:50:51.400 at your disposal to see how you can make change with with what's there democratically and that's

00:50:56.740 what you did with the tea party like when the protests whenever this gets settled in canada

00:51:00.560 and us being now under martial law who knows what's gonna happen in the weeks to come but

00:51:05.280 eventually it will be settled where where do canadians go right as you said there is no

00:51:10.520 consensus i mean even in the election trudeau only got 30 some percent of the vote yeah i mean

00:51:14.600 That's incredible. I mean, you know, under 40% at the high point of his popularity. And, you know, the frustration that I hear from really, you know, the people of Canada is the fact that the great concerns of day-to-day Canadians are just, it's not even like they're being addressed poorly.

00:51:38.280 they're not even being addressed period and a large part of that just seems to be trudeau's

00:51:44.920 unwillingness to um realize the role of political leadership like for instance when you say i'm

00:51:50.760 challenging the establishment my my view has always been well no i mean i'm like doing my

00:51:56.680 best to bring to the attention of policy makers and to our government on federal and state and

00:52:02.920 local levels the concerns that the people have now you that's been called populism but to me

00:52:08.760 that's inseparable from democracy because if we're not doing that what exactly are we doing

00:52:13.880 you know we're either we're either surrendering leadership to a number of all-knowing elites in

00:52:19.960 your case with trudeau a guy who's literally never worked to the best of my knowledge outside of

00:52:25.640 government you know born into a political family with a head of state father and he spent his

00:52:31.640 entire career you know more or less in these auto political circles i don't care you take the best

00:52:37.160 of p of people with the best of intentions and let me just be generous and say maybe he

00:52:42.440 you know was that or is that even is that you're not experiencing the totality of the political

00:52:50.760 culture that you're being charged with addressing and i think that's the frustration that i see

00:52:56.600 not just in the western provinces where it's boiling over but throughout Canada of a government

00:53:04.680 that you know ostensibly is democratic but is not operating in democratic means.

00:53:10.280 Yeah well there's some irony in that you know they love throwing out the term that

00:53:14.840 we're privileged and we don't understand we're privileged progressives like using that

00:53:18.600 but I can't think of too many people in Canada who have born and raised and grown into a world

00:53:23.000 of privilege more so than justin trudeau i i can't even fault him for that hey you're born

00:53:27.640 into what you are it's not like i he should have left the family as a pauper to get some life

00:53:31.880 experience but he's never been outside of that cloistered world yeah no look i mean i've worked

00:53:37.720 for uh at least two elected political officials who were very much from political families and

00:53:43.640 i do understand how beneficial that can be and how it can be inspiring to lead

00:53:49.640 you know the next generation into it but the concern with trudeau is given the option between

00:53:59.160 sort of hobnobbing with this davos set of global leaders forcing these unpopular

00:54:08.760 extreme very extreme i don't want to call them climate measures they're really

00:54:13.560 financial redistribution schemes onto the people of Canada decimating your country's energy needs

00:54:21.380 and now acting in ways that are really not at all supported by any scientific basis

00:54:29.220 and are hurting people, right? Hurting children in school, hurting

00:54:37.740 um people with vaccines one of the you know on the i don't we shouldn't call it a vaccine really

00:54:44.800 i mean that's we have to get our arms around the lingo we're going to get more proactive on this

00:54:49.200 whole issue but even even just on a clinical basis um these are uh you know unusual

00:54:58.680 you know sort of inoculations i mean and and i i i'm troubled and even as someone who's

00:55:07.320 defended and continues to defend pharmaceutical innovation has worked in the profession

00:55:12.760 that we're not being up front with people about what this is it really was forced on people

00:55:20.920 and uh let's be honest i mean what are the long-term ramifications of this

00:55:27.240 i mean if these companies tell you they have any sense of understanding what that what they are

00:55:33.480 they're you know they're just contriving that you don't know until you know and we already have had

00:55:38.360 this is a point i've made the united states sadly this this extraordinary effort to document every

00:55:45.640 single case of covid and every covid uh death and in my view there's a good chance both of those

00:55:52.120 have been inflated because we put in place hospital and and health care incentives for

00:55:58.280 them to declare these cases they mean they were rewarded financially for treating these patients

00:56:02.760 So, you know, maybe I'm wrong and every single institution has, you know, been above board on that, but the meticulousness that's gone into collecting and documenting these cases and the deaths has not been met on the other side, but documenting the clinical incidents related to these so-called vaccines.

00:56:25.440 And my question is simply, look, I mean, maybe that documentation would actually be reassuring

00:56:30.000 to those who haven't gone through the process, or maybe it would be troubling to them.

00:56:34.860 But it's certainly information that is available and yet is being denied in the United States

00:56:40.120 and in Canada, those who are trying to make an educated healthcare decision on this.

00:56:45.280 And I think that's part of the frustration that's also motivated this trucker convoy.

00:56:50.940 And let me say, I'm with these truckers.

00:56:52.800 I'm concerned about it.

00:56:54.640 i don't you know i want to reiterate and i've just done this repeatedly since my engagement

00:56:59.520 in particularly grassroots populism about avoiding violence uh not just because it's illegal not just

00:57:07.760 because it's going to hurt people but also because it's never beneficial to us politically um and i

00:57:14.320 think it's going to be difficult because we're dealing with opposition forces now that really

00:57:21.520 don't have compelling political ideas they're really not even pretending to be engaged in this

00:57:26.560 battle of ideas that i think drives those of us on our side this is to them like everything's a

00:57:33.040 street brawl you know and um we've got 38 i don't know if you've heard the latest in the united

00:57:38.880 states 38 000 truckers launching a convoy out of los angeles that is scheduled to arrive they're

00:57:47.120 They're not going into Washington, D.C.

00:57:49.060 They're going to stop along the way in Arizona and Ohio.

00:57:53.180 I suspect maybe they add a few other stops between now and then.

00:57:58.560 And then they're going to go all the way up to Hagerstown, Maryland, which is kind of part of greater Washington, D.C., and get there just about in time for Biden's State of the Union address in early March.

00:58:13.320 Yeah, I was going to ask you about that, actually, because we had heard rumblings about it.

00:58:16.820 Now, do you feel, I mean, you guys, the Americans have a much stronger basis of protecting the citizens from government.

00:58:25.440 I mean, it's entrenched much more in your constitution.

00:58:28.200 It's because you were, yes, and you were born of revolution.

00:58:31.940 You know, it was, there was a mistrust of the state right off the bat.

00:58:35.660 Unfortunately, in Canada, we kind of just evolved out of a monarchy.

00:58:38.840 So the parliament system might have been an improvement over the feudal system, but it hasn't entrenched that respect for the ability of individuals.

00:58:45.880 snowballing. I mean, this is part of my message in the United States about, you know, with me

00:58:50.660 taking great liberty to speak on the behalf of Canadians, is to sort of say that look at my

00:58:55.960 interaction with Canadians, with the people, right? Not with this Trudeau governing crowd,

00:59:02.920 that the frustrations are growing and that we're underestimating the commitment to liberty and

00:59:10.800 sensibility and to populist opposition that I believe is a very constructive development.

00:59:19.840 And, you know, while you and I spoke and I continue to believe that this continues to

00:59:24.460 build in Alberta and Saskatchewan and other Western provinces, it's a countrywide phenomenon.

00:59:34.820 and it's a positive thing because if you're going to get the country back on a right track

00:59:41.540 you can't rely on this elite that has let's be honest alternative agendas they're not

00:59:49.060 particularly concerned about how the people that they were elected to represent view what they're

00:59:54.740 doing they're much more concerned about their fellow elites around the world the financial

01:00:00.820 opportunities will emerge for them after they leave office and all of the incentives are

01:00:06.660 structured in ways that are a disincentive to do what an elected democratic free nation

01:00:13.300 should be do be doing and that is representing the will of the people and when the people

01:00:17.940 by the way are not in line with what a government wants to do the obligation is to shut them down

01:00:24.500 violently like it's being done in Canada and to some extent and in other ways it's been done in

01:00:31.460 the United States with famously the targeting of the Tea Party movement by the IRS for one first

01:00:38.740 times in American history we extracted an apology from a federal government agency.

01:00:45.860 You need to persuade the American people and that's always been my position in government too

01:00:51.380 is that, you know, the trust of the people in the government is one that's two-way communication.

01:00:59.300 Government has to hear the people. And if government doesn't agree with the people,

01:01:03.500 and it's going to try to take the policy direction and, you know, an alternative route, then you have

01:01:09.300 to convince the people. And this is what's frustrating. This is what's driving this outrage.

01:01:14.460 and and you know in europe in australia in new zealand in latin america in the united states

01:01:22.940 and in your country of canada literally all around the world is the fact that governments

01:01:28.060 are not taking the effort to try to be persuasive um and i think you know for sure gotten up there

01:01:33.980 and sort of you know given a very carefully developed statistically laden and empathetic

01:01:41.180 uh presentation and appealed to people he would have got a much better response in trying to force

01:01:48.540 this sort of down their throat without that kind of deliberation and then i you know and then just

01:01:53.660 you know my my sense even with you know his the house of commons and his engagement there it's

01:01:59.660 just it's not a responsive one then that's not good government you know no not at all i mean

01:02:05.340 i respond better to reason than somebody running in with putting a gun to my head and telling me

01:02:09.020 me to do something and there perhaps could have been a lot more reason they could have tried and

01:02:12.820 they wouldn't have had this but now that it has happened the mistrust has grown the convoy is gone

01:02:17.460 I think it's made a mark as it's inspired things in the states and I'm very excited in watching

01:02:21.320 that grow but where do you think we go now I mean I'm in the west and I know where our thoughts tend

01:02:25.960 to go and that goes towards uh back to the pursuit of western independence because it looks like the

01:02:29.740 system is broken I mean the citizens can be shut down by force of uh by force literally if they

01:02:35.500 push back and what else are we supposed to do well um that's really the ultimate question isn't it

01:02:43.900 but i think you know i will say that you know is this 38 000 convoy coming out of california

01:02:50.140 going to be nothing or is it going to be a defining moment i'm leaning much more toward

01:02:55.300 it being a defining moment i don't know how this administration and our law enforcement

01:03:02.000 and federal law enforcement will respond to it i will tell you that as of today literally in the

01:03:06.800 last 24 hours sort of news here the um the the fencing protection of the united states capital

01:03:16.560 which in the view in my view and in the view of many was left up entirely too long as a point

01:03:22.720 of political symbolism not as any legitimate reaction to a to any threat to the capital

01:03:29.040 after january 6 has is being restructured and and re and put back up and again it's sort of the

01:03:38.320 they're very the others the others let me put biden and trudeau in the same sort of category

01:03:45.040 just for the purposes of simplicity here no they're not the same these guys are very good

01:03:49.280 at political symbolism and in political maneuvers and in the operational components of american

01:03:56.160 politics all of those functions are ultimately not terribly beneficial to the people because

01:04:03.280 the people benefit with the policy you know the objections that are emerging on mass particularly

01:04:09.760 as it relates to young children isn't is totally justified and understandable not supported at all

01:04:18.320 uh clinically and you know i go back and i think we just need to keep pushing this out

01:04:23.760 even in the united states with fauci's early interview on 60 minutes where he down played

01:04:30.000 masks and their their uh clinical functionality and utility in the case of um you know it's just

01:04:37.840 like their positions change and now they're changing again by the way on our state level

01:04:42.320 in the united states because they see basically the opposition that's emerging and the clock is

01:04:48.000 ticking toward a 22 um you know midterm election where they are positioned in my view for one of

01:04:55.200 the biggest clockings in american history i mean i'm talking about 100 seat 90 100 seat

01:05:02.000 clocking presuming that we can have a free and fair election down here

01:05:06.320 and now all of a sudden you know they're gonna they're gonna try to say hey the science is

01:05:10.640 changing and we're gonna uh we'll be a little more liberalized on this but no science has changed

01:05:16.080 it's really these decisions have been hugely politicized almost every one of them under the

01:05:21.520 biden administration and trudeau has been you know an extraordinary offender of that as well sadly

01:05:29.200 yeah well i'm really you know hoping again i mean as you said you're looking with optimism

01:05:33.120 i mean our truckers convoy started with just a couple hundred out in the west by the time it

01:05:36.960 got to ottawa wow it had expanded and snowballed into something massive and there's definitely

01:05:41.840 that potential to happen with yours down south and uh you know our my biggest fear now too though

01:05:46.800 is communication it's getting information out as you said our cbc is just something else and we

01:05:52.880 have a bill i don't know if you'd heard about that up in canada they they took it off the table

01:05:57.040 because the election got called last fall and then they brought it back it's called c11 and

01:06:01.200 they're looking to control digital media this is the national emergency legislation this isn't even

01:06:08.800 related to that this was something they're going for even before that and uh they're

01:06:13.920 i was just looking at the on the on the national emergency legislation on the house of commons vote

01:06:18.240 and 185 to 151. it's not exactly overwhelming support in the house comments you can see

01:06:25.520 how you know so if you've been engaged you know whether you were in the trucking uh the trucker

01:06:31.680 convoy and and opposition or whether you've been involved in other political opposition to trudeau

01:06:38.000 and you're you're if maybe you're frustrated and thinking you're losing you're not losing

01:06:42.880 i mean you you can see that the the metrics on this i would cite this house of commons vote

01:06:49.680 are beginning to reflect the mounting opposition and the public opposition that is emerging and

01:06:56.080 that's basically what our design is you know and again to reiterate not accomplishing anything

01:07:03.760 which is difficult and to avoid sometimes in this heated political climate with any violence

01:07:10.640 but when the people see that others share their sentiments they feel much more liberated to join

01:07:18.560 in them it's almost a psychological process that i think they go through and this is going on all

01:07:23.200 over the world right now where people are sort of housed up and they're facing all the ramifications

01:07:28.320 of overreactions and questions as it relates to china's communist party and their culpability in

01:07:34.720 this why we're not being more assertive about it what's going on you know i mean that's the

01:07:39.440 big question in the united states in my view what's the motivation i don't believe it's

01:07:43.200 incompetence and i i don't like our side describing as that seems by design and the

01:07:50.080 frustration is just to kind of you know pull the comforter over your head and hope for the best

01:07:56.000 and that my best message to everyone is no don't do that uh but also don't work in isolation this

01:08:05.680 one of the reasons we're very and you were saying i think i heard your commentary right before i

01:08:08.880 came on about how individualism is driving force among conservatives that certainly is absolutely

01:08:14.640 true um it's also not a tactic that that is most effective in in any political dynamic it's one

01:08:24.720 of the reasons i think that we have had such substantial losses of uh you know major institutions

01:08:31.920 over the last few decades you know which were observed we in the united states we won more

01:08:36.320 elections than we we lost our side but we were losing the country well why is that in my view

01:08:41.440 it's a leadership problem on our side and we need to look at ourselves because controlling and fixing

01:08:47.040 our own side um even if there's not an inclination among some to do that you have to do it if you

01:08:54.560 it's that's the easier fix because you are not going to convince a justin trudeau or a joe biden

01:09:04.080 out of the blue that somehow they're misguided in their outlook this is very carefully

01:09:09.280 deliberated positions that they've developed and they hold them very adamantly yeah well

01:09:14.080 in conservatives i think one of our biggest flaws is we tend to eat our own i mean we're

01:09:17.680 we're terrible infighters but there's nothing harder nothing harder to organize than an

01:09:21.760 individualist so it's just against our very nature to march and lockstep but we have to fix this

01:09:28.000 part of it okay and and what i will tell you and this certainly is one of the biggest lessons to

01:09:32.160 come out of the tea party movement is no one on on that original founding call in february of 2009

01:09:39.680 never felt that we would inspire tens of literally tens of millions of americans to become politically

01:09:45.680 involved most of these people even hadn't even been involved historically uh largest grassroots

01:09:50.880 independent grassroots political movement uh in the current in american history uh but people

01:09:56.800 were looking for it and once they realized that they were not alone in the way that they were

01:10:02.240 looking at things they felt much more liberated to get involved because i think many people in

01:10:09.840 isolation feel that they're in a distinct minority they're like well look this government's all

01:10:16.960 knowing and they're taking in a certain direction and we're not seeing any public opposition

01:10:21.760 and the sense is that maybe you have fallen out of line with uh the broader political sentiments

01:10:28.560 of your country's people but that's almost never the case if you instinctually feel that your

01:10:33.840 government's moving in the wrong direction in particular if you're feeling financially or

01:10:39.360 socially or in any other capacity the ramifications of that the chances are there's a lot of other

01:10:45.040 people that are feeling the exact same way but you're never going to know it until you engage

01:10:50.000 in in a very uh unified uh public way yeah well that gives some seeds of hope and i'm glad to

01:10:56.240 hear that because something that was also inspiring out of the truckers convoys and

01:10:59.360 talking to people involved within that was again most of them probably were never politically

01:11:03.760 involved before like these were people who again were comfortable just staying at home and avoiding

01:11:07.760 it but they felt compelled they'd had enough it's time to get up and do something they don't know

01:11:11.840 how even they just they found this and they went with it and they're not going to stop now i mean

01:11:15.680 the convoy is not gone that's my my best advice season hopefully pre-season advice here is even

01:11:22.880 despite you know the reaction uh be inspired by this i mean the canadian truckers have inspired

01:11:31.120 the world in a lot of ways i mean this this is a global story everyone knows about it and it's

01:11:38.640 been viewed generally positively by the people as okay here finally are these people that have

01:11:44.960 had enough and you know in their personal cases i mean ponder the absurdity of wearing them

01:11:49.840 when they were literally having to wear masks as they were driving trucks right i mean come on i

01:11:55.200 mean it would you find me any public health expert who says that that is uh clinically

01:12:02.400 justifiable i would like to speak with them about that i mean that's just over the top and their

01:12:07.920 reaction is entirely justified um in fact i hope that they'll record they're coordinating closely

01:12:13.920 with the california-based convoy that's about ready to launch in the united states 38 000 a lot

01:12:19.360 of trucks and like you correctly said i think it will be joined along the way and this could be a

01:12:24.640 real defining moment you know setting up um you know major opposition momentum to this administration

01:12:33.840 in the united states and in my view they have no safety net on their uh political popularity uh

01:12:40.400 unlike previous administrations and biden is collapsing you see it in independence where

01:12:45.600 i mean he's into the 30s now and um there's probably no no safety net as far as how far

01:12:53.440 he could fall. Unlike Obama and Trump, they might've been controversial with their opponents,

01:12:58.480 but they always kind of had that, you know, 40% base support in the United States that would

01:13:03.600 stand by them. There's none of that for this administration. And why would there be?

01:13:07.920 They've literally done nothing positive for the country in 13 months.

01:13:14.320 Yeah. Well, I really, like yourself, I'm hoping this turns into something huge. It certainly did

01:13:19.920 did in Canada and I don't see why it won't down there and again that would inspire people back

01:13:24.420 and forth up here I mean we're more unified as North Americans than we've seen in a long time

01:13:28.860 so I really appreciate you coming on with me today where can we follow you and keep up with

01:13:34.940 what you're doing and just keep up with the states in general yeah thanks Corey I'm on just about

01:13:41.060 everything Twitter with my name one word Michael Johns on Facebook Michael Johns Tea Party have a

01:13:49.540 group now on Facebook that provides conservative and liberty-minded content to activists under

01:13:56.460 my name, Michael Johns, which is worth joining. And I'm on all of the emerging purportedly

01:14:03.440 conservative-friendly alternative sites. My advice on this whole thing is to not give

01:14:09.200 up on the established ones. No need to retreat. We need to resolve any concerns we have there.

01:14:18.580 we're not going to advance the cause just by

01:14:21.400 walking away from it, though we never should have ended up

01:14:23.500 in this position. I mean, it's just another example

01:14:25.580 of a lack of leadership to allow 0.97

01:14:27.580 the other side to monopolize

01:14:29.500 such a

01:14:31.160 crucially important medium.

01:14:34.960 Absolutely.

01:14:35.580 Well, thank you again. I hope we get to talk again

01:14:37.500 soon. We're watching history being made, and

01:14:39.320 perhaps we'll be able to analyze

01:14:41.180 what happened in months to come.

01:14:43.540 God bless Canada. Thanks.

01:14:45.340 Thank you, Michael.

01:14:45.980 so as we said that was michael johns from down in the united states and yes he joined me on one of

01:14:51.080 my earlier shows as well and he's got a a lot of experience in in organizing and as i framed it

01:14:57.100 earlier you know just pushing back east of the establishment what i meant was like again their

01:15:00.560 politics are different the tea party was a movement within the republican party in canada

01:15:04.260 we spawn new parties all the time and push but uh in their case it was a larger organization to try

01:15:10.020 and shift the the direction of the republican party one way or another and they certainly changed it with

01:15:15.980 you know, it's undeniable, as he said, that they started a grassroots movement that really caught

01:15:19.760 the interest of a lot of people. And we're seeing now something of an undirected grassroots movement.

01:15:24.440 That's the thing with the convoy. There's no solid leader. I mean, that's why I think they're

01:15:28.680 also wasting their time incarcerating, you know, what I'll call a political prisoner like Tamara

01:15:33.420 Leach and others. It's not stopping this. I mean, they've shoved them down, but the people who were

01:15:38.440 discontent last week are still just as discontent as they were, you know, today. It hasn't gone

01:15:44.520 away. They're going to look to new means to protest, new ways to establish themselves.

01:15:48.600 They're not going to rest until all the mandates are gone. And why are we clinging to these bloody

01:15:53.020 things? Why are we so hung up on these things? The rest of the world is changing. They're getting

01:15:58.580 rid of these mandates. It's a political point on Trudeau's part. It's a bit of pride with the

01:16:03.160 moron now. And look at the damage it's causing. I mean, I've said it in past shows. Lie to us. 1.00

01:16:09.700 it's nothing new to you, Justin. Don't worry about it. I'm okay with it. Lie to us. Say you

01:16:14.400 got a whole new government report from doctors, medical people said, you know what? We don't need

01:16:18.400 the vaccines or the mandates anymore, any of that stuff. We're getting rid of it. Had nothing to do

01:16:22.840 with the protests. Absolutely not. They're still jerks, whatever you want to say, but we're getting

01:16:26.420 rid of it. Once those mandates are gone, things will calm down. That's the bottom line. And you 0.99

01:16:31.340 know what? As long as they're there, they're not going to calm down. You think the people who

01:16:35.820 dedicated that time and that effort and the money to go to Ottawa to support the convoy,

01:16:40.280 take part in the convoy, are just going to throw their hands up and say, oh, well, it's over. Of

01:16:43.600 course not. They aren't done by a long shot. Then I really do. I do worry. And I mean, I'm with

01:16:48.760 Michael Johns on that. It has to be peaceful. We have to stay peaceful. But we got some people

01:16:54.140 who don't feel that way. And they're feeling cornered. And they've run out of options. There's

01:16:59.100 people who've lost their jobs. There's people who've been shut off from their family. There's

01:17:02.440 people in all sorts of different conditions. And some might get desperate and do something

01:17:07.340 desperate. And I do not want to see it. There's nothing worse than cornering somebody. That makes

01:17:12.320 them dangerous. And we're taking passive, law-abiding, safe, good citizens, and we're

01:17:18.400 making them dangerous. We're creating potential criminals. And that lands on the lap of the

01:17:24.780 government, not on the people on the ground. You are inflaming people. You're dividing people.

01:17:29.260 you're you're pushing people and it's gonna have a bad outcome now they've lost the means of the

01:17:34.980 convoy as a means of protest for now they've lost at least the ottawa setup as i said calgary had

01:17:40.460 thousands of people marching and look at that the established media they didn't want to cover that

01:17:44.040 why because they want to make sure if people think it's done it's not it's not and here's a note from

01:17:51.200 a blackhawks reporter these guys you know there might be a western standard story on there too

01:17:55.100 they're a news aggregator for us. These guys have a report. The Canadian embassy in Washington is

01:18:01.080 paying thousands to consultants to influence U.S. thought leaders on social media, according to

01:18:06.220 records. The initiative coincided with American media criticism of a cabinet order invoking the

01:18:10.840 emergencies act against truckers opposed to vaccine mandates. Think about that. Our government

01:18:16.560 sending money down to the embassy in Washington so they could pay off social media leaders

01:18:24.100 to parrot the Canadian government message.

01:18:28.460 They're ticked off because, yes, the American media was critical of their Emergencies Act.

01:18:33.000 Like I said, even the New York Times, that they can't control,

01:18:36.540 left-wing as they are, wasn't supportive of the Trudeau government.

01:18:39.980 So now the government is sending your Canadian tax dollars into the United States

01:18:44.020 to pay off, thought leaders as the term is, on social media.

01:18:48.920 Gordon Records, this is a report.

01:18:51.420 So they can try and change the narrative.

01:18:54.100 man where do we come to and yeah i get accused of that now and then too all the oil companies

01:18:59.820 must be paying you oh i wish come on i'd have a tailor-fitted suit if that was the case guys

01:19:03.720 nobody's paying me here well i'm getting paid but not by uh the government and uh you know

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01:20:15.600 You know, I let another report that hospitalizations, ICU admissions, again, are dropping to record lows in Ontario.

01:20:22.040 So why are we still fixated on holding these mandates up?

01:20:31.580 It's going against the science now.

01:20:33.100 You know, they always used to like to claim the science was on their side.

01:20:35.360 Well, science isn't on their side anymore.

01:20:37.280 That's part of the reason I think they want to stop the reporting as well. 0.98

01:20:39.640 If we keep reporting, cutting through and reporting the science, well, it's not going to fit their damn narrative. 0.98

01:20:43.460 crazy, dangerous times. And I touched on it briefly earlier. I mean, something to be watching 0.97

01:20:50.080 and it was at Makachuk, one of our columnists likes to see, he definitely follows the international

01:20:56.100 scene closely and he writes on it constantly. And he's been a guest on here. The Ukraine-Russia

01:21:00.760 situation right now. This is nuts. I mean, you've got Eastern Ukraine independence movements,

01:21:07.700 essentially secessionist movements that have broken away. Putin is declaring those as part

01:21:12.460 of Russia. They're funding that. They're recognizing 0.99

01:21:14.460 new borders. Guys, we've got

01:21:16.240 basically an expansionist regime

01:21:18.620 taking bites out of Eastern Europe. 0.99

01:21:21.660 This is a time

01:21:22.580 when the West should be standing up

01:21:24.380 and being concerned. You know, the communist

01:21:26.540 bloc got shut down, thankfully, and

01:21:28.480 fell apart. But now

01:21:30.540 a new authoritarian regime is

01:21:32.480 coming into Europe

01:21:34.200 and it's dangerous and it's frightening.

01:21:36.520 We're all busy pissing around, 1.00

01:21:38.360 incarcerating people like Tamara Leach, 0.99

01:21:40.460 stealing dogs from people who take part

01:21:42.300 and truckers convoys and invoking the emergencies act because of bouncy castles. Our country is so

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