Jagmeet Singh and Justin Trudeau have formed a coalition government in Canada, and they re hoping to maintain power until 2025 with this deal. But it s not a formal coalition, but it s a loose alliance, and it s causing a lot of problems for the Prime Minister.
00:00:30.000good morning it's march 22nd 2022 look at all those number twos welcome to triggered i'm cory
00:00:39.960morgan this show is going to be coming to you live every day at 11 30 a.m mountain standard time
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00:00:52.380going on get the ranting out of my system and uh tend to get a number of good and interesting guests
00:00:57.360on being live we have the comments as we can see from vince and jenna uh i encourage the comments
00:01:03.360bring them out talk with each other try and fire comments out to me or the guests they don't always
00:01:08.000have to be favorable but try to keep them polite i don't always necessarily get them out to the
00:01:12.240guests but when i can i do because i like uh sharing those other points of view and i like
00:01:16.880seeing a lively discussion going on in the comments section it keeps this more active and so on rather
00:01:22.880in some of those you know canned recorded interviews that some other places offer so
00:01:27.840of course keep in mind when we're live we get those technical hiccups now and then too that's
00:01:31.920all par for the course here so uh yeah as vince alberto was saying trudeau's seeing the happy
00:01:38.080couple and that's what i'm going to start off talking a little bit about welcome to a new
00:01:42.000government in canada you know not really and it's not a formal coalition but the liberals and the
00:01:49.200The NDP have formed a tight alliance, and they're hoping to maintain power until 2025 with this.
00:01:56.240So, I mean, in this unholy alliance, Jagmeet Singh has fully tossed his NDP under the bus,
00:02:01.400and he's formally joined Justin Trudeau at the hip as they brokered a deal to maintain power for the next three years together.
00:02:08.980Singh's credibility as an independent party leader was already terribly shot when he joined hands with Justin
00:02:13.880and supported the invocation of the Emergencies Act for a few disastrous hours last February.
00:02:19.200The imposition of the Emergencies Act was an international embarrassment as the world watched a Prime Minister in utter panic,
00:02:26.680invoking a form of martial law in order to shut down protests crippling the city of Ottawa under his watch.
00:02:33.340I mean, the protests were almost gone, the borders were open, it was just bouncy castles and individuals,
00:02:39.280but Justin felt he needed this Emergencies Act to do it.
00:02:41.680Now, the NDP had traditionally been a party that stood up without compromise for the right to protest, if nothing else.
00:02:48.560They jealously guarded individual rights as Tommy Douglas opposed Pierre Trudeau's imposition of the War Measures Act,
00:02:54.560even when the FLQ is literally murdering people through acts of terrorism.
00:02:58.620Singh tossed that traditional NDP adherence to the principle of protests aside as he pursued the principle of power, and it backfired on him.
00:03:06.920The NDP silence was deafening as Trudeau backtracked on the Emergency Act less than 48 hours after forcing it through Parliament.
00:03:14.480Now that committees are starting to evaluate just what happened in Ottawa during those protests,
00:03:19.000the Prime Minister's looking weaker than ever, especially his case for invoking that act.
00:03:23.480The government claims of foreign funding of the protests have been disproven.
00:03:26.860There's been no organized effort for sedition found anywhere,
00:03:31.480and no wild-eyed, crazed leaders could really be identified to point at.
00:03:36.300Tamara Leach was a prime organizer, but upon examination it became clear
00:03:40.100that she's as harmless as any other concerned Canadian citizen.
00:03:43.060The government's embarrassed itself over the whole entire convoy debacle, and they know it.
00:03:48.560People are getting tired of Trudeau's weak leadership,
00:03:51.000and the NDP are truly starting to get tired of Singh's policy of lap-dogging for Trudeau.
00:03:55.940The Conservative Party of Canada is holding a well-contested leadership race,
00:03:59.840and may very well emerge from this race with a strong contender to lead the nation.
00:04:04.240The Liberals may not be able to rely on weak leaders from the CPC in the next election,
00:13:17.980overpower that government. Or we could see
00:13:21.140this happen with Harper even in a minority.
00:13:23.120They could try and push, though it never quite
00:13:25.160happen but they could theoretically push the governor general to recognize a formal coalition
00:13:29.540government of those two rather than the conservative government so it really and we look at these
00:13:35.940alliances yeah if the conservatives are going to come in in Canada they're going to need a majority
00:13:40.100they have to get a majority not not a minority government it will not last long the NDP and
00:13:44.840liberals have proven themselves to be very little different from each other and more than willing
00:13:48.760to get together and do stuff somebody said something along the lines of you know can the
00:13:53.620the senate uh step in on on government that was brenda asked that no not really i mean
00:13:58.760there's nothing that liberals and the ndp are doing that isn't legitimate or allowed i mean
00:14:04.560that's the way it works in that system they can get together as i said earlier it's not even a
00:14:08.940formal coalition a formal coalition government would mean they would share cabinet seats and a
00:14:13.740lot of other positions this is a an alliance they got an informal agreement that's why i don't think
00:14:18.100it's going to last all the way till 2025 anyways but it gives them some feeling of stability
00:14:23.520and of course Trudeau had to sign his soul away to some NDP concessions and the NDP have to
00:14:27.940swallow a lot of pride to basically become part of the Liberal Party but there's nothing for the
00:14:33.200Senate to step in on in a sense in this I mean they might want to step up on some policies if
00:14:38.300they don't feel they're appropriate or or things like that I guess if they were coming down the
00:14:42.520pipe but it there's nothing much else to be done for it eventually there will be a non-confidence
00:14:47.940vote or the government will run the full five years and that's how long it is legally five
00:14:53.000years they could go in power if nothing else pulls them out or they could just choose to call an
00:14:57.740election at some point. Time will tell. I don't think we're going to see one very soon, but my
00:15:02.720prediction for what it's worth, and that's very far out in this crazy political world, is that
00:15:07.240they're not going to make it all the way till 2025, even if they want to. You know, Cheryl
00:15:13.460saying Justin didn't keep his word about trees planted and drinking water and reserves. What
00:15:17.360makes Jagmeet think Justin will keep his word to him? I don't think Singh thinks that Justin will
00:15:21.440keep his word, but he just wants to keep in power like so many others. And I don't know. I mean,
00:15:25.940Justin has lied repeatedly. He hasn't kept up with any of his promises. Well, I shouldn't say any,
00:15:29.500but very many of them. I mean, we remember way back when he first got in, he said it was the
00:15:34.000last first past the post-election. That fell by the wayside. You know, budgets balanced themselves,
00:15:39.500all sorts of things. But the thing is, Canadians keep rewarding him by putting him back in.
00:15:44.900So I don't know what it will take. Obviously, the truth doesn't serve Justin well, so he'll stick to
00:15:51.200just blowing sunshine up our backsides and it seems to win him elections. The ball is in the
00:15:58.120Conservative Party's court at this point. They have a leadership race going on. There's a lot
00:16:03.520of candidates. Hopefully, you know, not only getting a leader that a lot of Canadians or
00:16:08.100enough Canadians can accept is the outcome of that race, but they really as a party have to
00:16:12.660get together and figure out how they can sell a product that is satisfying to Canadians at large
00:16:17.880enough to win a majority. Unfortunately, the way Canada is laid out, it's a rare occasion. I mean,
00:16:23.400the Liberal Party dominates in the last few generations. You know, it breaks with Conservative
00:16:29.120parties in between long dynasties of Liberal governments. And I don't see many indications
00:16:36.020it'll change too soon. That's why I feel that, you know, the problem with Canada is systematic
00:16:38.960rather than party and looking in the long term. But I mean, for the short term gain, if we could
00:16:43.680get some Conservatives in there for a little while, it would certainly take some of the pain0.55
00:16:46.660office for a bit but inevitably this country i think is going down a bad path in general
00:16:52.820um let's see and and roxy saying the senate needs to stop this too there's nothing to stop
00:16:58.500i'm afraid it's an alliance of elected officials there's nothing that one can do about it
00:17:04.500it's uh they're they're all elected they can do whatever they like uh as far as that goes i mean
00:17:10.980uh if they put a policy in the senate perhaps could stop the national dental program that
00:17:16.020Trudeau's looking to put in or the housing program. I mean, these things are going to cost
00:17:19.980billions. It's crazy with what they're looking to do. There's no doubt about that.
00:17:24.520But they're not doing anything technically illegal or immoral, to be honest. It's just a
00:17:30.840matter of getting together and saying that's what they want to do. We don't have recall legislation
00:17:34.920of any sort, so there isn't anything we can do between elections to change these guys out if we
00:17:39.020wanted to. And again, I think Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, they're happy enough with this group
00:17:43.440anyways. They wouldn't recall them even if they could. So we got to ride this out. I would say
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00:20:01.700there and as i said we've had a lot of energy discussion and this is a portion of the energy
00:20:06.340discussion we just don't hear nearly enough about so we've got john gorman he's the president of
00:20:11.540the canadian nuclear association and we're going to explore some of those uh power generation
00:20:16.900options within canada so let's bring john in here hey how you doing hello corey very well thanks
00:20:24.420i appreciate you coming on uh as you might have heard a little bit in the lead up and you know as
00:20:28.660you're more aware than anybody we're in a the world's in an energy crisis we're really
00:20:32.660scrambling trying to figure out how to keep energy affordable reliable uh and safe and uh
00:20:39.460while we talk about all these different options it just seems nuclear keeps falling by the wayside
00:20:43.780for some reason i mean we do have nuclear generation in canada it's not some ban sort
00:20:48.340of thing it's been happening but there's not a lot of discussion on expanding it is there
00:20:52.900Well, you're absolutely right, Corey. We do have some nuclear in Canada, more than a little.
00:21:00.700You know, about 16% of Canada's electricity comes from nuclear energy.
00:21:07.340It has for a number of decades now, about two-thirds of Ontario's electricity and about a third of New Brunswick's electricity.
00:21:15.060And of course, we have the world's second largest exporter of uranium right next door to Alberta in Saskatchewan.
00:21:21.540and Alberta sharing that Athabasca Basin, which holds, I think, the world's biggest reserves of
00:21:26.660uranium. So world-class provider of nuclear for a number of decades. And of course, it was on the
00:21:32.760basis of nuclear that in Ontario, we were able to phase out coal-fired electricity generation,
00:21:39.480which continues to be the single largest carbon reduction initiative in North America.
00:21:46.460So you're right, it is surprising that we don't see the federal government being clear
00:21:52.700about the role that nuclear has played in Canada and can continue to play across Canada
00:21:58.940as we strive to have that secure, clean, affordable electricity system that we know has to grow.
00:22:05.060So nuclear generation, I mean, the big thing these days is, of course, carbon emissions.
00:22:09.860That's what people are looking to reduce.
00:22:11.680And most forms of generating energy will emit a degree.
00:22:15.040I mean, we're getting better at mitigating, but there's still a great deal of it when it comes to petrochemical forms of generation or even in damning areas.
00:22:21.820There's been some concerns about methane emissions.
00:22:24.680Nuclear doesn't emit any carbon when it's generating, right?
00:22:29.300And in fact, it's, you know, according to the United Nations, it's the lowest full life carbon cycle footprint of any electricity generation source.
00:22:40.380And what we're particularly excited about, Corey, is the innovations that are going on in the industry right now, particularly around small modular reactors, this latest generation of very scalable high temperature heat and electricity that can be produced.
00:22:57.960and excited about its applications for Alberta, particularly in the oil sands, where we can use
00:23:03.240that very high temperature heat to help in SAGD operations and replace some of the fossil fuels
00:23:10.520that are used in the production of oil and gas, so that as we go into this lower carbon future,
00:23:16.120Alberta continues to produce the most responsible and lowest carbon product that we can. And
00:23:22.200nuclear is going to be absolutely key to that. Yeah, and our premier in Alberta, I believe he's
00:23:27.700spoke about that recently with these modular generation. And what I like about that is it's
00:23:32.760not an either or thing. It's not somebody talking, saying, well, we have to shut down and get out of
00:23:37.300the oil sands or natural gas or things like that. They can complement each other. These can actually,
00:23:42.700again, getting towards mitigation of emissions, but still, we're going to develop our resources
00:23:47.880and do what we can while they're still viable. And it could be a very good partnership.
00:23:52.380well you're absolutely right that that energy transition that we're all looking for has to
00:23:58.460involve all forms of of carbon uh mitigation as we make the transition right we know that oil and
00:24:06.140gas are going to be needed for for quite some time it powers 80 of the world's economy uh so i think
00:24:11.980we need clear recognition uh by this uh by this federal government that it's going to take all
00:24:16.940technologies to make that happen and in canada's case uh you know that means carbon capture and
00:24:22.620storage it means hydrogen it means uh wind water solar and of course nuclear the the the great
00:24:29.340thing about nuclear is as uh you're alluding to corey is you know we can use it to do multiple
00:24:35.420things we can connect it to the electricity grid to produce clean electricity or we can take these
00:24:40.860smaller uh very scalable small modular reactors and use them in industrial settings whether it's
00:24:46.780to produce and use that high temperature heat to produce steel and cement potash or in the oil
00:24:53.100sands to use it to produce that high temperature steam that's used for extraction and lower the
00:24:59.740carbon on that as we transition to a lower carbon future. So I mean one of the bigger hang-ups with
00:25:05.900nuclear and expanding on it and it's always been there is fear and safety. I see a commenter
00:25:11.340terry saying you know no nuclear in alberta ontario is dangerous with darlington uh and
00:25:16.220he brings up fukushima and chernobyl uh but i mean statistically nuclear is exceedingly safe
00:25:23.180it is exceedingly safe it's uh you know as as safe as any other electricity source out there
00:25:29.740and when i say that i mean again going back to the united nations uh as safe as wind and solar
00:25:36.060production in terms of uh in terms of you know kilowatt hour of electricity production so uh we
00:25:42.780do have uh you know there there are real uh questions that people have about nuclear
00:25:47.740particularly now as they look to uh examine the different technology solutions that are available
00:25:53.740to to us as we try to strive for that through this transition into a lower carbon world and so0.76
00:25:59.500nuclear is getting a close look at and in the process of doing that uh there are very legitimate
00:26:05.900questions that come up. Some of it is based on misinformation and stigma, of course, from
00:26:12.160things that have happened in the past or been blown out of proportion. And so we're trying to
00:26:19.980engage people in those discussions, make them understand that nuclear is not only a very safe
00:26:25.560way of producing electricity, but is produced in the most responsible way of any other electricity
00:26:31.840generation source and i'm talking here about another concern that comes off up often which is
00:26:36.560the nuclear waste right the spent fuel and the fact is that dealing with spent fuel is a very
00:26:43.680straightforward thing to do you know there has never been anyone injured let alone killed by
00:26:48.800spent fuel here at home or globally and we have a very complete plan in place that deals responsibly
00:26:55.680with every bit of waste that the industry produces it's pre-paid for and we have a permanent storage
00:27:01.200facility uh going through the approvals process now so so a very good story on the waste as well
00:27:07.360but we need to engage people in discussions like this corey so they understand what nuclear can do
00:27:12.240well yeah unfortunately you know humanity being humanity one of the first things we did with
00:27:16.000nuclear power once we made breakthroughs and developed it was find ways to blow each other
00:27:19.840off the map uh and and it does put a vision in people's heads they think nuclear weapons when
00:27:25.840they think of nuclear and I mean you know we should be able to separate I mean the weaponry
00:27:31.280from the power generation that they're completely different applications and one wouldn't feed into
00:27:35.760the other at all right no that's right in fact there really is no there really is no direct
00:27:42.480correlation between nations that have developed nuclear power as a pathway to get nuclear weapons
00:27:51.200So that's the first thing that I'd like to say. But when it comes to Canada and other nations who are developing nuclear power for clean electricity and clean heat, these nations sign up to very strict international cooperation agreements that subject them to, you know, very intense scrutiny by the international regulator, which is the International Atomic Energy Agency.
00:28:14.700And so, you know, if you were in the game of being a nation that was looking to develop, you know, nuclear weapons, starting with nuclear power and having to have the International Atomic Energy Agency literally living with you, it's kind of like inviting your parents in line into your house to help you raise your children when you decide to go the nuclear power route.
00:28:39.980And it's probably the least attractive way of trying to develop nuclear weapons, right?
00:28:46.080So Canada has very strict agreements that it has signed on to ensuring that it only uses nuclear for power purposes and not for weapons.
00:28:57.880And similarly, we've got a very robust framework internationally around that.
00:29:02.140So over the years, has cost effectiveness of nuclear infrastructure and generation come down?
00:29:09.000because a lot of past projects needed a lot of subsidies in order to get rolling and some people
00:29:13.400have had questions that perhaps it's not the most cost effective way of generating power has that
00:29:17.800improved well yeah i'd look at that in two different ways cory firstly you know the conventional
00:29:23.800nuclear plants are very large and have typically involved state financing so if you call that um
00:29:30.760you know if you call that a form of subsidy then yes i mean these these huge infrastructure
00:29:34.280projects have required state funding and many of the projects like all infrastructure projects
00:29:41.560you know are subject to to going over budget depending on where you are and those are the
00:29:45.640examples that always get pointed to but i think the most exciting developments that's been happening
00:29:50.120in the industry lately is this new innovation in small modular reactors so these very small
00:29:55.240scalable you know high temperature heat machines they are produced in factories many of them are
00:30:01.640you know able to fit on large trucks and and shipped to site so they're mass manufactured
00:30:07.240they can be financed by um private investment firms rather than than the uh the state itself
00:30:14.120and in this case it's the through the production of multiple units uh the way that we envision
00:30:19.960uh there being a huge market demand in canada for these that you're able to keep costs low and so
00:30:27.000So we see a lot of, a lot of potential in that being very cost-effective.
00:30:30.820Great. Yeah. And those modular ones do sound very interesting.
00:30:33.440Looking farther North, I'm wondering, uh, it's, I'm going to be talking actually to a columnist about Arctic sovereignty a little later.
00:30:40.020And I'd worked in the Arctic sometime in the past and in some of those smaller towns up there, you know, a few thousand people, they predominantly get their generation through diesel,
00:30:49.300which is very expensive to ship and difficult and just not the most environmentally friendly
00:30:56.980form. Would modular potentially have applications in those isolated communities?
00:31:01.300Absolutely. Some of the units that we're looking at are very small, right? They can go down to as
00:31:07.460small as, let's say, two megawatts, which would be enough to power a couple hundred households,
00:31:15.620for example right and then they they scale up to about 300 megawatts which is quite large but with
00:31:20.420these smaller ones you know you can bring these to a northern community or to a northern mining
00:31:27.860operation or industrial operation but let's take the example of a northern indigenous community
00:31:33.860you can place it there to be producing not only electricity but that high temperature heat as we
00:31:38.900were saying and that heat can be used for heating homes you know in a geothermal type setup or heat
00:31:45.460pump type setup and at the same time you could be producing hydrogen you can actually be doing all
00:31:50.100three of these things at at one time whether you're in an oil sands operation or in a northern
00:31:54.740community producing hydrogen high temperature steam and electricity and so um many of these
00:32:00.740units are able to be on site they don't have to be touched or refueled some of the technologies for
00:32:05.780as much as 20 years uh right um and you avoid to your point corey you you avoid the not only
00:32:12.660the emissions associated and the cost associated with diesel but uh as you know it's it's getting
00:32:17.460harder and harder to have the safe transport of diesel or any type of really heavy commodities as
00:32:23.460as the climate warms right those windows are getting smaller so this is certainly a prime
00:32:28.260application for small modular reactors yeah so uh we we have been exporting uranium as you said we're
00:32:34.580a large exporter we're a big producer in northern saskatchewan i think a lot of those mines though
00:32:38.820have been uh stopped and shut in is there still a lot of deposits remaining though like if we
00:32:44.340expanded our consumption of fuels uh would we still have the means to produce them we do uh
00:32:51.220we do in fact we're sitting on some of the best reserves uh in the world uh there have been a
00:32:55.940number of studies done recently as as the world is going through this sort of nuclear renaissance now
00:33:00.340and and recognizing that we're going to need a lot of new nuclear as we strive towards this
00:33:05.700net zero future uh so uh yeah certainly lots of supply of uranium to meet our needs
00:33:12.580um new technologies that are coming on board now that actually use the spent fuel from the
00:33:17.700conventional reactors to power these new reactors so a sort of recycling of fuel which is which is
00:33:24.100very exciting and uh corey as you've probably seen the the price of of uranium stocks uh cameco and
00:33:30.820and uh others uh you know going through the roof now just in in in recognition of the fact that uh
00:33:36.900a lot of new nuclear build out is uh is is going to take place so i i guess just another aspect if
00:33:43.780we expanded our mining or or uh streamlined it more there's markets as well i guess for a lot
00:33:49.140of product for other applications such as uh diagnostic medicine x-rays things such as that
00:33:54.100as well right yeah you know canada well one of the things that's that's often overlooked about
00:34:00.100uh about nuclear is its um innovation in uh medical isotopes so nuclear medicine and uh canada
00:34:10.020is one of the the world's foremost producers of various types of uh isotopes i think we produce
00:34:15.140about 70 percent of uh the most familiar one which is cobalt you know used in diagnostics around
00:34:22.340cancer and x-ray machines etc but lately uh canada has been leading the world in terms of new types
00:34:29.300of very targeted isotopes that are being produced uh right from the the running plants in in in
00:34:37.060ontario at the darlington and the bruce power sites so this is a sort of breakthrough in terms
00:34:43.860of how we're able to produce isotopes and as a consequence ship them around the world to help
00:34:49.540other to help other nations and just a very promising area for for nuclear medicine in
00:34:58.420particular cancer treatment as we go forward yeah well i i appreciate you coming in to explain a lot
00:35:04.420of that because it is a big growth area there's a lot of misconceptions or fear and i mean that
00:35:08.740the more we could they're valid concerns i mean people worry you see some bad scenes or things
00:35:13.460you know, from inappropriate utilization, I guess, or poor use of nuclear and other applications.
00:35:20.740Is there something else you'd like to touch upon before I let you go there, John?
00:35:24.580Yeah, thanks, Corey. I think just to go back to a point I mentioned at the beginning, which is
00:35:29.700one of the things that I'm personally most excited about is just the opportunity that there is for
00:35:35.700Alberta to diversify its energy sector and its workforce with the additional jobs and the
00:35:44.100additional expertise of nuclear. It's not only the proximity to the Iranian deposits and things,
00:35:51.780which is helpful, but it's this application of small modular reactors for its high temperature
00:35:56.820industrial heat, clean heat, which can really provide a competitive advantage to our
00:36:03.860our valuable oil and gas sector and at the same time be developing a new stream of jobs
00:36:11.500which has to do with nuclear operation of these high temperature heat plants.
00:36:16.820So I think that's a very exciting pathway for nuclear and I'm glad to see that Premier
00:36:22.220Kenney is such a vocal champion of the technology.
00:36:28.420Yeah, well, I'm looking forward to seeing it expanding further.
00:36:31.060I think we're really behind too long on this issue in general, so we're seeing it moving ahead.
00:36:39.120Where can we find more information about your organization and about nuclear in Canada in
00:36:43.220general? Well, I think you've been kind enough to show the audience some of the information
00:36:50.660that's on our website, and I'd suggest that as the first place to go. So www.cna, Canadian
00:36:57.380nuclear association that's cna.ca and a great place to start and a lot of resources on there
00:37:03.860that give give your listeners the most up-to-date information excellent well thank you very much for
00:37:09.620coming on to join us today and we're looking forward to seeing i'm really looking forward
00:37:13.300to seeing those modular uh you know innovations coming along it really could be a game changer
00:37:17.620in a lot of areas and industries thank you corey all right thanks bye-bye so yes that was john
00:37:24.820gorman the president of the canadian nuclear uh association and uh as i said i'm very interested
00:37:31.380in this there's people and their concerns are valid i mean nuclear is scary it's very potentially
00:37:36.180dangerous potentially i mean if it's done wrong uh we have to look at the whole world history on it
00:37:41.620there are i believe thousands of reactors around the world like the only major real problems we
00:37:48.180had was uh chernobyl yeah it was run by uh you know soviet system that couldn't really manufacture
00:37:54.100a reliable alarm clock, much less safely run a nuclear facility, unfortunately, and it led to a
00:38:01.800horrible disaster. Fukushima, well, yes, but again, it was a localized disaster. The earthquake itself
00:38:08.420was the bigger disaster rather than the nuclear release, but it's still of concern. Sure, it's of
00:38:13.400concern, but again, you can't forget the thousands and thousands, I mean, millions of megawatts of
00:38:17.560power that have been generated through nuclear perfectly safely. And, you know, we got to look
00:38:23.060at some other aspects of diversifying the economy and things and and uh as i was saying in the
00:38:28.260arctic you know it could be interesting getting some different forms of generating uh power up
00:38:32.820there those people need it it's expensive and then we could develop other resources while we're at it
00:38:37.000um it's like pat uh andruziak is saying you know a pity we have to think nuclear when we have a good
00:38:42.360supply of oil and gas but it doesn't have to be either or the nuclear can supplement the production
00:38:47.860of the oil and gas that was talked about with the oil sands like the oil sands for people familiar
00:38:52.020with you know SAGD and some of those terms that steam assisted uh what is it gravity development
00:38:58.100or something like that boy now i'm forgetting it i've been out of the field too long but the thing
00:39:01.620is you need to generate a lot of heat and steam to do it and you're burning natural gas to do that
00:39:06.420if we're using nuclear to bring that heat about to heat that steam to extract the the the bitumen
00:39:12.260from the oil sands where then we can export the petrochemical products from that plus the natural
00:39:17.940gas that we were burning previously to get the stuff from the oil sands, we could be exporting
00:39:22.960or burning here for our local power supplies. Like it's just win, win, win. And being modular,
00:39:29.260these are smaller and perhaps a little more affordable, but we can look a little broader
00:39:33.040with it. To Soneco, well, you're suspicious of everything, Soneco, but that's okay. So it's0.73
00:39:38.160suspicious of the new wave push for nuclear power and who's pushing it. I think a lot of consumers
00:39:42.540are pushing it. People who do want to reduce emissions are pushing it. And I'm not seeing a
00:39:46.760big push. That's why I brought Mr. Gorman on. I wish, in my view, it was a bigger push. We need
00:39:52.520to move on. You know, Wildrose saying Alberta doesn't need nuclear power. We have oil and gas.
00:39:56.980Well, that's like saying we don't need carrots because we grow grain. Come on, guys. We can
00:40:01.500walk and chew gum. We can produce a number of forms of energy. It doesn't have to be either or.
00:40:06.460Three Mile Island. Yes, in Elisa, that happened. You know how many died there? Zero. So that's
00:40:11.040what I mean. With 60 years of nuclear generation, we can only point to a handful. I could point
00:40:16.700to, if I wanted, the list of a whole pile of thousands of people who have died from mining
00:40:20.360coal, people who have died in oil field accidents. There's been a lot of energy generation projects
00:40:27.480that unfortunately have led to harm. Nuclear isn't much worse than the rest of them. Some people
00:40:34.020pointing out, though, yeah, you know, when we've got Trudeau in charge, do we want to give him more
00:40:36.940authority over things like that? Well, we already do. There's a lot of nuclear already, and it's
00:40:40.260getting older. Oh, let's see, somebody was, there we are, steam-assisted gravity draining. Thank
00:40:45.720you, Daryl. I was a brain farting on that one. But there's a lot of forms of generation. We
00:40:50.660shouldn't rule any out. We don't have large rivers that can be dammed, you know, if we're looking to
00:40:57.940generate power. This is one of those things from the green kooks, if there are in our case to
00:41:00.860reduce emissions, things like that. Oh, well, hydro. Well, yeah, that's great in Quebec. That's
00:41:05.440great in even BC. And even there, they can't get site see-through. There's another thing, too. I
00:41:09.840mean, nuclear plants and even the modular ones, we know we'll get opposition. But there's John
00:41:14.500Gornley. You know, he's a great radio host in Saskatchewan, for those who are familiar with
00:41:17.780him. And I'm pretty sure he's the one who coined it. He used to call them paves. I think it was,
00:41:21.620John. And that's people against virtually everything. It doesn't matter what you do,
00:41:24.840somebody's going to oppose it. And you know what? We need power. We need revenue. We need
00:41:30.400economic recovery. And at some point, the paves have to be said, well, we're sorry you're concerned.
00:41:37.240And but we're going ahead. We have to do it. It has to get done. Shirley asking about nuclear
00:41:42.840waste that that was addressed on the show and nuclear if you look that up the amount of waste
00:41:46.840well two things for one they're getting better at actually utilizing the waste now for uh further
00:41:50.820use and products as well uh as you heard it's it's stored in barrels and dumped in the ocean no
00:41:55.920no canada does not do that and uh it's a very small amount of waste and it's actually very
00:42:01.480easy to contain it if you look that up with nuclear i know i'm starting to sound like an
00:42:04.760advocate but yeah i am pro-nuclear but i understand people here aren't necessarily pro as well and
00:42:09.560that's why we're having the discussion um you know alberta just needs to be a sovereign nation
00:42:15.160well i agree there but that has nothing to do with nuclear but the nuclear wouldn't hurt i guess is
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00:43:46.680Look them up, support them. They will support you. So let's get a little further on some other
00:43:52.400news stories as we get on with things. Here's one that popped up. Yes, we covered that a lot
00:43:57.740a little while ago. If you remember during the convoy, there was all that baloney and I did a
00:44:02.340long rant on that about supposedly these arsons coming from the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa and they
00:44:10.040tried taping the doors shut and they were going to burn all these people down in an apartment
00:44:14.160building and and they felt that they even self-identified that's where it smelled like
00:44:18.260the Juicy Smollett thing because I guess somebody was walking through a tenant walked by while this
00:44:22.000guy's lighting this fire apparently hey what you doing oh we're gonna burn your building down
00:44:26.040we're with the Freedom Convoys oh well carry on then and he got in the elevator and went home
00:44:31.060went to bed. That's how realistic this tweet thread was. Yet people took it seriously and
00:44:38.540they really believe that this ding dong was linked with the convoy. They really believe1.00
00:44:42.700there was these people that were looking to pull off what would have been one of the most
00:44:46.940horrific of terrorist acts in Canada. That sounds like something really happened, which still is
00:44:52.800horrifying. Some idiot really was trying to burn a building, but it had nothing to do with the
00:44:55.780convoy. And Ottawa detectives have confirmed that yesterday. They said, no, this had nothing to do
00:45:02.240with the convoy. They said it was some local man named Connor McDonald. He's been charged with
00:45:07.140arson and mischief and attempting to burn the building on February 6th. There's no information
00:45:12.260that says this is a quote from indicating he was involved in any way with the protest,
00:45:16.500which was happening to be going on while this took place. So this was a lunatic doing something
00:45:20.480otherwise. But again, we have our politicians, we had our control freaks, we had the others
00:45:26.400using this as yet one more excuse to bring in things like the Emergencies Act, to suspend
00:45:30.920individual rights, to crack down on people. You know, it was, there's no basis for it. I mean,
00:45:39.360we knew it was BS then, now it's just vindication. But this is getting back to what I was talking
00:45:43.660about when it came to Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh's Unholy Alliance. You see, we're finding
00:45:49.060these things out after the fact this was due to a police investigation that followed up later on
00:45:55.220but what we're also having following up right now is a lot of senate committees parliamentary
00:45:59.660committees things like that and that's where we've been getting these news you know black
00:46:03.640locks reporter and the western standard has been reporting on that finding out that a lot of these
00:46:09.620allegations from the government are all these excuses for invoking the emergencies act just
00:46:13.740held no water, such as the foreign funding myth. And in this case, the supposed terrorist attempt
00:46:20.280with men taping doors shut and trying to burn down a building in Ottawa. I mean, it's a horrifying
00:46:26.900thought, but it turns out, again, as often is the case, complete BS. Apparently, the carpet got a
00:46:33.800little burned there. I mean, it's still disturbing to think of somebody even trying to light a fire
00:46:37.180in an apartment building. But the story just stunk. I still am in shock, you know, with people
00:46:42.160who took it seriously, elected officials and that, and media members, while this dork was
00:46:46.880tweeting about it and gave that story. Like I said, it's just, wow, is there not any critical
00:46:51.900discussion when, as I said, with that timeline, with this guy tweeting these pictures from the
00:46:55.920security thing, where a supposed apartment dweller, like I said, came in and said, hey,
00:47:01.820what are you doing? Hey, I'm burning your building down. And he scratched his head,
00:47:05.280went to bed, went to sleep. I can't judge every person's reaction to things, but I think in most
00:47:11.460circumstances, the guy might have considered calling the police or, you know, leaving,
00:47:16.920going somewhere else, not being burned to a cinder. It was just bizarre, but people took it
00:47:21.260seriously, took it seriously. And, uh, that's where we went. So that's clear. That was a bunch
00:47:27.820of baloney. Oh yeah. And the mayor, Jim Watson of Ottawa, uh, he also told city council, you know,
00:47:32.000we learned the malicious intent of these protesters occupying the city. He directly blamed it on the
00:47:37.160protesters uh here's a federal judge has cited the leaders debates commission for unfairly
00:47:44.560blacklisting certain media from asking questions i think mel talked about that as well with the
00:47:48.880news check-in earlier uh she sharply criticized the commission because they blacklisted rebel0.99
00:47:53.580news network again at the debates last september and said there's room in the nation for the
00:47:57.700expression of expose opposing points of view you know why we always have to push to get in i mean
00:48:03.140Rebel, hey, I consider them friendly competitors. They break some great stuff. They go into some
00:48:08.180areas that other media outlets don't. They can definitely be a little sensationalistic. Sometimes
00:48:14.100it's a mix between entertainment and media, but they have a place out there and they deserve that
00:48:19.620place. And we cannot let these groups and such start filtering our media. How often do we keep
00:48:26.360seeing that trend? You know, the constant attacks, the constant ways of trying to block independent
00:48:31.500media from its ability to get out and put out their coverage on issues and on large events
00:48:38.720going on. And it's always after the fact. Unfortunately, you know, you have to come in
00:48:44.140later on and do the court challenges to get in. And, you know, they'll probably ban them again
00:48:47.400from future ones and they'll have to fight and the event is done by the time they get back in.
00:48:52.560Maybe we got to start slapping some of these commissions actually with some fines for some
00:48:56.100of the, in my view, violations of free press, which is a very integral right. You don't have
00:49:00.320to like the press outlet. I think the Red Star is an abomination of media publications in Canada.
00:49:06.940And yes, I'm referring to the Toronto Star, but I don't think it should be banned. I don't think
00:49:10.540it should get a nickel of tax dollars, but they can run their socialistic crap all they want.1.00
00:49:14.320They should have as much access to political events and things as well as any other media
00:49:21.700outlet. I never would want to see those sorts of things limited or banned. And we would just have
00:49:26.260to call out their slanted gross coverage after the fact. That's the way it goes. That's what
00:49:30.220free media is about. But we are not in that. We're constantly pushing back and trying to pick and
00:49:34.900choose which ones are appropriate and not appropriate. And that's a bad recipe. And we
00:49:41.000keep seeing it. We keep seeing this happening over and over again. And it's disturbing. We have to be
00:49:47.440very concerned about this. And just to finish up with that, Michael Cormier, the Commission's
00:49:52.320executive director is a former CBC reporter. There's a shocker. You want a good path to a
00:49:57.160government appointment, work for the CBC, the mother corp there, that tax funded abomination
00:50:01.880there. That one I want to see gone or at least fully privatized. That's different than even the
00:50:06.560red star. But he said that the commission's mandate is to ensure high journalistic standards
00:50:11.580for the leaders debates. Well, if that was the case, how about high standards of journalistic
00:50:16.600principle and just allowing every disparate outlet to come in there and cover it, whether you like
00:50:21.920what they're going to ask or not okay that's enough of me shooting at our terrible and
00:50:27.660thankfully fading away legacy media outlets let's bring in dave makachuk and get on to the next
00:50:33.200subject for the day i've been looking forward to this as well so where do we got him he's coming
00:50:39.320right away we're going to talk about arctic sovereignty hey dave how are you doing there
00:50:42.240i'm good i'm good thank you thank you hello yeah so just getting my rant on on the usual
00:50:48.460things and such. I don't know if you caught the earlier part of the show, but I spoke with a
00:50:54.060fellow from the Canadian Nuclear Association and talking about modular generation. And one thing
00:50:59.860actually a questioner in the comment scroll brought up was nuclear submarines. And I want
00:51:04.180to get into that a little bit too, as we're going to talk about Arctic sovereignty. I didn't get a
00:51:08.120chance to ask the fellow from the association on that. But framing that up, you wrote a column
00:51:13.600recently on because we have a world in turmoil and a bunch of insanity going on and uh we have
00:51:20.400a big vulnerable point to the north of us called the arctic that we haven't been paying good enough
00:51:24.640attention to expand on that god we sure do we sure do um compared to what the russians are doing now
00:51:34.240we have so far to go just to keep up with what they've done uh just quickly the russians have
00:51:44.480put troops back in their arctic bases they have something like 13 of them
00:52:00.400also added early what do you call it area basically aerial denial equipment
00:52:09.120uh a better much better equipment than we have at norad and uh like uh they're they're getting
00:52:17.500ready for a fight and okay well essentially because of uh uh the um arctic ice is is uh is
00:52:27.640melting now i don't want to get into the um debate over uh global warming or anything but let's just
00:52:36.260It's a fact that the Arctic ice is diminishing, and that is changing the face of the north.
00:52:42.700Like you worked up north, I worked up north, both of us did.
00:52:47.000I was up there in the 70s, but now it's changed.
00:52:51.120It's changing, and the scary thing is Russia has all these new weapons and troops in place in the Arctic.0.51
00:53:04.200And they're getting ready. When the ice clears, they're going to be claiming perhaps some of our sovereignty. I don't know. But it's a scary situation.
00:53:19.080And you have China, which is also claiming to be an Arctic, what was it, an Arctic, a near Arctic state.
00:53:29.180And, of course, they are, you know, being pushed into the Russian circle with the way things are going.0.80
00:54:42.700I mean, in 2007, Russia had two submarines that went down two and a half miles under the North Pole and planted a Russian flag under the North Pole to make a statement.
00:54:58.160And that, you know, that and that was a long time ago.
00:55:00.900That's not even, you know, we're not talking now.
00:55:04.760But basically, the Russians believe, well, we all believe that there are incredible resources under the Arctic, in the Arctic, especially oil reserves.
00:55:15.740The Russians said decades, possibly a century or more of oil reserves in the Arctic.
00:55:24.700And that's going to become more important.
00:55:28.040I mean, we don't know how the current situation is going to play out, but Russia is under pressure.
00:55:33.760to develop those resources because they're going to need that they're going to need that their
00:55:38.480economies right now is in shambles who knows what it'll be in five or ten years but they need that
00:55:45.680and all it will take all it will take is one small altercation and we'll be back to square
00:55:54.160one with the russians in the arctic and if putin is still there i believe he wants to stay until
00:56:01.120So I'm not sure if I have this right, but he wants to stay until 2035.
00:56:07.940I'm not sure if somebody can fact check me on that, but I believe he wants to stick around.
00:56:13.340And if he's sticking around, man, we have our work cut out and we haven't done anything.
00:56:21.880If not for Prime Minister Harper, who ordered the DeWolf patrol ships to be built, we've got one, we're going to build more.
00:56:35.140Thank God that he did that, even though they are lightly armored and they're really not icebreakers.
00:56:41.740I mean, Russia has 40 icebreakers, including 12 nuclear-powered icebreakers.
00:56:47.960We've got 12 of various types, but we have nothing to match.
00:56:55.840We have nothing, and our surveillance of the north is just ridiculous.
00:57:02.020I mean, last summer, a Coast Guard cutter was in the Arctic Ocean and saw Russian and Chinese ships doing maneuvers in the Arctic Ocean, and nobody knew.
00:57:17.960for god's sake where is where are our patrol planes where are the american patrol planes for
00:57:24.460god's sake this is a wide open area it's one quarter the size of canada one quarter of our
00:57:31.060country and we've got 1500 troops guarding it 1500 yeah unbelievable and uh and of those troops
00:57:39.700i believe i don't know if that's counted among them but is the rangers but that's just been a
00:57:42.880program going on with a lot of indigenous folks up there and they do some good work keeping an eye
00:57:46.880on things but they've got old ross rifles i believe and in snowmobiles i mean that you know
00:57:51.760at best they could spot something and report it but it's not a defense force they're at most
00:57:57.120monitoring yes exactly um i mean we definitely the i should not uh just to get on the positive
00:58:05.040side of things i don't want to be all negative but things are changing and uh um yesterday i
00:58:11.680I listened to the Senate Committee on Arctic security, and it was very fascinating, a lot of interesting things going on.
00:58:20.680Our minister, Anand, is actually coming, is meeting with the Arctic Council, which is all the countries in the north.
00:58:29.760And we are close to, she is close to making some statements about future investment, which we desperately need in that area.
00:58:40.200we've expanded the runway in Inuvik. I sure hope we get to make a decision on these new jet
00:58:51.520fighters. Right now we're using old Australian secondhand fighters to keep us going. We definitely
00:58:58.100need a decision whether they're going to buy the F-35s or not. We need that now. But I'll tell you
00:59:04.100one thing one senator i can't remember his name yesterday but he said to the minister
00:59:12.660dnd national defense he said look how much money is it going to take us to catch up to the russians
00:59:21.780just to catch up to them we're not you know because they're so far ahead of us
00:59:27.940how much is it going to cost and how long is it going to take and nobody could answer that question
00:59:35.300they had a brigadier general they had the head of intelligence for the canadian army and the
00:59:40.260armed forces boss and uh this dnd guy and all these officials who are probably pulling down
00:59:47.860huge salaries you know way more than you and i uh my friend and and uh let me tell you they couldn't
00:59:57.940come up with an answer they couldn't the jet fighters maybe 2025 26 the ships maybe 2025
01:00:06.260in other words right now we are just we are behind the eight ball and we have to act fast
01:00:12.980and we can't just count on our american friends all the time for god's sake the americans now
01:00:18.660are taking notice also to to mention this week and next this last week this week and next week
01:00:26.260major exercises going on up north with the u.s navy with the canadian army with all the
01:00:32.580nato countries with the united kingdom even even a a british aircraft carriers involved
01:00:39.140all over the arctic over the last week and going into this week huge uh uh exercises going on
01:00:48.380including ours was noble defender it's called noble defender so at finally finally we have
01:00:57.980woken up to protect our northern sovereignty and i i hope to god that we follow up on these
01:01:05.240announcements that the Defense Minister Anand makes.
01:01:13.780Yeah, and I mean, there's some questions, you know, people who haven't been there maybe don't
01:01:17.720quite understand just how rough and nasty the Arctic is. King Dupe was asking, you know,
01:01:22.100why do we need, I think it was a bit of sarcasm, why do we need icebreakers if it's melting so
01:01:25.200much? Well, you know, to expand on that, and Don brought it up too, the Northwest Passage has been
01:01:29.940opening up more and more. I mean, we don't want to get into the discussion of why, maybe it's a
01:01:33.500cyclical thing, maybe it's global warming, whatever. But the reality is it is opening up
01:01:36.860more and more, but it is seasonal. I mean, you go north of Inuvik in January and that ocean is
01:01:41.680frozen solid. And it's just that it's open for longer periods of time. And you can get farther
01:01:47.200into the higher Arctic with these icebreakers and just getting, because our problem is access. I
01:01:53.060mean, aside from the military and things, it's like the old trope, you know, possession is nine
01:01:57.280tenths of the law. Well, if we ever came into a dispute with any country, whether it's the Americans,
01:02:00.400the chinese india for that matter if they put up a presence in the arctic their case before the world
01:02:06.320court in the u.n they're gonna say well you guys don't even go there you don't develop it you can't
01:02:10.320access it how can you claim it so we've got to make a presence up there or we won't even have
01:02:15.280a moral case to defend it if somebody comes along and just says we're taking it exactly and i i i
01:02:21.360couldn't have said that better uh you just hit the nail on the head uh the you know the expression
01:02:27.600use it or lose it and that's what it comes down to and it's time we woke up and and and include in
01:02:37.300uh that you know this is a big bad world out there and uh sunny ways sunny ways are nice
01:02:44.480uh but and you know we want to be green and we want to develop the north and bring them
01:02:50.620power more power but we want to do it with green methods and so on and so forth but i mean if we
01:02:56.280don't get up there and and do something and do it soon we are in big trouble and the fact is they
01:03:03.600couldn't answer that question when are you going to catch up to the russians when and i think as
01:03:10.960usual we're going to have to count on the americans to bail us out i mean the americans at least are
01:03:16.740waking up to that fact and um and i think we're going to see a greater presence and as you said
01:03:23.020activity in the north like fighting in the north as you know it's all about number one is survival
01:03:31.240number one is just surviving the weather and and knowing how to survive knowing how to build
01:03:37.280and and all those skills are are so important to our troops and I'll say something interesting
01:03:43.220about the Americans with something they're doing and I heard an American general talk about this
01:03:48.240And he said, as far as Alaska goes in the Arctic Circle, we want we want troops up there who want to be up there.
01:04:00.300Troops, young troops, young guys who want to be in Alaska.
01:04:04.060We don't want to just be sending troops in and forcing them to live in minus 30 weather.
01:04:10.840We want guys up there who want to be up there. And I thought that's brilliant.
01:04:15.060That's absolutely brilliant. At least they're thinking, at least they're thinking about the future and what's coming down the line. And again, we always have to rely on our American allies. I don't know why, but and we just have not been doing and even worse.
01:04:35.280OK, we imagine. OK, imagine this week. And I was just telling you that that all these operations, all these exercises are going on. Right.
01:04:46.380can you believe that justin trudeau wanted to invite the people's liberation army to take part
01:04:57.960in our exercises our arctic exercises where they would learn our arctic military secrets
01:05:05.600and when the pentagon found out about this they said what the hell are you doing like what the
01:05:12.720how are you doing? You can't invite the PLA to our Arctic exercises. This is what the PMO's office
01:05:19.340wanted. And of course, the Canadian military said, okay, okay, we'll shut it down. We'll shut it
01:05:26.320down. And apparently when the PMO's office found out about this, they went ballistic. How dare you
01:05:33.280you know make this decision without uh uh you know having us involved this is how
01:05:41.680this was the situation and it's just totally embarrassing completely embarrassing we went from
01:05:47.520that imagine to now we're all concerned and finally again i'll say it again finally we are
01:05:56.720waking up finally has there been any discussion at all at looking at purchasing nuclear submarines
01:06:05.040the icebreakers aside like again for people who don't follow that stuff very closely the thing is
01:06:10.320the challenge with the ice caps you've got to submerge and you've got to stay down a long long
01:06:14.400time and a diesel submarine is a combustion engine it needs to carry a lot of oxygen in order to be
01:06:19.920able to move underwater and stay for extended periods they can't get up there only nuclear subs
01:06:25.040can manage to stay submerged long enough and that's why we know that the chinese the americans0.75
01:06:30.400the russians probably the british they're all messing around under our waters but we've got1.00
01:06:35.600absolutely no way to even get there so is it has there even been discussion though of
01:06:40.720getting that capability this goes i mean this goes back to the agreement
01:06:45.200well the disagreement between our allies the united states and us where we're both kind of
01:06:52.000of laying claim to the Northwest Passage. Now, we've sort of apparently signed some sort of
01:06:58.960agreement where we'll talk about it in future type of thing. But as for the submarines,
01:07:05.980apparently there's these new batteries. I think Japan has come up with a way of putting new
01:07:11.060batteries, excuse me, in submarines which can actually last longer under ice. They can actually
01:07:19.920last longer than ice but again that's not anywhere near what a a nuclear submarine could do but the
01:07:26.720expenditure i mean we're we're too cheap to buy new fat fighter jets for god's sake where would
01:07:34.160we find the billions upon billions and billions of dollars uh to buy nuclear subs mind you we
01:07:41.680wouldn't have to buy that many we would only have they're about a billion each i believe
01:07:47.360and uh so that's that's quite expensive and with our government who's now signed a deal with the
01:07:54.400ndp a liberal ndp i i mean these all the social programs and so forth that are going to come at
01:08:02.960us now i just can't see us i just can't see us um suddenly uh you know uh uh spending money on
01:08:12.800nuclear submarines um we've got these old submarines from the we bought from the brits
01:08:18.880which they forced on us uh i think that was a mistake but uh anyway it's done and it's in the
01:08:25.840past um and and yes that definitely gives the russians and the americans but as as far as
01:08:33.200discussions i don't think so i don't think there's been any discussion on that as far as canada goes
01:08:39.280but let's listen let's wait over the next few weeks to the what the defense minister says
01:08:44.880as far as as far as uh what are the new announcements i mean the only thing we've
01:08:51.600done is sign an agreement last summer with the united states to enhance norad enhance it
01:08:59.040not rebuild it not bring in new but enhance it and i honestly don't know what the hell that means
01:09:05.280i really don't and i don't know if it's going to be enough but as that senator questioned them
01:09:10.560yesterday uh in the senate they did not have an answer for when or how much they didn't have a
01:09:18.160clue so it's almost like they're it's almost like something out of a comedy show i hate to say it i
01:09:27.280hate to say that about you know what i mean and and what you said about our troops up north our
01:09:32.080rangers absolutely let me let me say that they're doing a fantastic job they're doing
01:09:37.680an incredible job but we need to help them and we need to do more we've got to do more and we better
01:09:44.480do it now otherwise like you said uh we're going to be left out in the cold uh you know not not to
01:09:51.520use that uh expression but uh we're gonna if we don't do something now and we've done zippo we've
01:10:00.560We've got five more ships coming by, what is it, 2026, I think, or 25, and those ships are lightly armed.
01:10:12.240As far as I understand, there's a lack of severe armament on those new patrol ships.
01:10:25.080So why? Why did we not arm those ships, for God's sake?
01:10:29.440So we've got to, as the defense minister said yesterday, the game has changed.
01:10:53.400We have to look ahead and start doing things differently.
01:10:55.980yeah well when i think of uh you know canadian senator any uh politicians discussing military
01:11:03.320things i all i can think of is dr strangelove and i don't uh get uh optimistic feeling about
01:11:08.500what they're going to conclude unfortunately but we can hope for the best i guess so thanks for
01:11:13.420coming on to talk to us today dave and that guy columns at westernstandardonline.com and i imagine
01:11:18.420you've got more coming for us oh yeah absolutely absolutely there's so much happening all over the
01:11:23.220world it's just it's just amazing the world has changed the world has changed overnight it really
01:11:29.280has great well thanks and we'll see what happens dave and i'll talk to you again soon okay take
01:11:35.940care take care great thanks so yeah you know that that's something of a pet issue with me and as we
01:11:41.780said there could be a lot of discussions as dave said it's like a billion dollars for a nuclear
01:11:45.440sub and that would just be i guess one among who knows how many are messing around under there
01:11:50.280perhaps dozens but I think that point of principle and the chances of the government getting it as
01:11:54.640Dave said too are pretty slim we'll do a dental plan across the country we'll borrow you know our
01:11:58.920great-grandchildren into oblivion but they wouldn't spend on something like that but as I said you
01:12:03.480would have that defensibility saying hey we're there we're at least there I am personally not
01:12:10.260as concerned though it's still a concern I'm not concerned about the Russians coming running over
01:12:14.300the ice cap and invading through northern Canada and coming south but I am concerned about a lot
01:12:19.420of disputes coming where Alaska up there, the Americans might say, well, you know, you guys
01:12:23.940aren't there. We're expanding what we say is our turf up in the Arctic. We're Denmark. We've had
01:12:29.620that going back and forth on an island way out in the Eastern Arctic where we're playing around,
01:12:33.920switching flags, and it's a funny little game. But in reality, it's another nation making claim
01:12:39.580on Arctic land that Canada claims is their own, and we can't get to it. So it's very difficult to
01:12:46.260claim that we can have it. Maybe the Chinese, as I said, I worked up there for years. The McKinsey0.93
01:12:50.980Delta alone, I refer to it as another Alberta is sitting up there. And what's this? Why does Canada
01:13:01.740need world adulation? What's great about being there, Craig? Well, George, there's resources up
01:13:07.820there. It's not a matter of just being there, as I was just getting into. There's another Alberta
01:13:12.120worth of oil and gas. There are thousands, literally thousands of capped oil and gas wells
01:13:17.140sitting up there. We've been doing exploration and drilling up there since the 60s. And we've
01:13:21.120taken a bloody drop out of it because we haven't even got a bloody pipeline coming through the
01:13:26.420Mackenzie Delta. And you're saying, do you think any of these minerals would be mine? Well,
01:13:29.440should we just give up? Let it go? We're not going to get around to it? Hey, take it away.
01:13:32.880Take it away. It's never going to happen. That's stupid. So no, we can defend this thing.
01:13:37.860get up there. I don't see, I mean, we're never going to be a large military power. There's
01:13:42.440never going to be enough expenditure where people are going to say, boy, you know, countries can say
01:13:45.560we're not going to mess around with Canada's Arctic sovereignty because, you know, their
01:13:50.240military would slap us silly. No, you know, we're a smaller country. We're not a military power.
01:13:55.700But part of what I see, as always with a lot of things, private enterprise is where we can have
01:14:02.940a lot of solutions. When I was talking to Sheree the other day on the interview,
01:14:07.860As I saw in the Arctic, we actually had government scientists borrowing space in our oil field camps up there in the Arctic because they didn't have the means and budget to get up there.
01:14:16.420So we, out of goodwill, lent them the room to come in there and study seals and things out on the ocean.
01:14:22.240But if there's an incentive, if we would just let our private industry get up there, let them develop these things.
01:14:28.400There are people living in Inuvik and Tuck, all of those Arctic communities out there that would love to have some good, productive resources to develop for themselves, for their kids to live.
01:19:04.680That's the unfortunate consequence of having a prime minister who really, come on, let's face it,
01:19:09.520he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
01:19:10.940He can regurgitate speeches, but when he tries to think on his feet, we can see as he trips over his tongue and delivers word salad, this man just doesn't have it all firing there.
01:19:21.540If it wasn't for the family name, he would not be at the front of this country.
01:19:25.320But he's got these ministers he's surrounded himself with who aren't even much better.
01:19:28.820At least, you know, if we could have a hammerhead as a prime minister, if he at least had a strong cabinet full of intellectuals, we could perhaps be functioning well.
01:19:37.740So either way, Freeland saying it was just an isolated occurrence, that the Bank of Canada had a blacklist of media that, and again, the Bank of Canada, that's a government institution, essentially.
01:19:51.620The Black Locks recorded a bank manager saying authorities would not be allowing Black Locks to ask questions.
01:19:56.320So Black Locks wasn't allowed questions while they were supposed to give preferential treatment to Bloomberg News.
01:20:01.520Government institutions picking and choosing who they're even going to give information to.
01:20:07.240This is a big, big problem. This really reflects that giant rot that's in our government, that
01:20:13.100hatred they have of disclosure, that hatred they have of critique, of having media outlets daring
01:20:19.240to break the government line, to go into areas that they don't want to hear about. And they're
01:20:25.780always pushing back. We got C10. Now we got C11. They want to control the media. This is a scary,
01:20:30.860scary area. And to hear Freeland sort of dismiss it and just say, I was just an isolated incident,
01:20:35.680That's not a minor thing. Every country that has a constitution that protects free rights will
01:20:40.580always address free press and why it is so important, because no authoritarian regime
01:20:47.820wants a free press. That undercuts them. That makes them accountable to the people. That's why
01:20:52.660Pravda was run by Russia. That's why every authoritarian regime has a state broadcaster,
01:20:58.340as do we with the CBC. Though they haven't made it a full monopoly yet, they're certainly trying
01:21:02.860for it, especially if they shut out independent media outlets. And this was just a case of a guy
01:21:08.640not even knowing that his mic was hot. It's something we learn around here. Watch when your
01:21:13.000mic is hot. And he explained that certain media were blacklisted from asking questions. This is
01:21:18.960Bader Schur, I think his name is, with the Bank of Canada. And they preferably give coverage to
01:21:27.120Bloomberg News. If you've got preferential news going out, you obviously are not getting
01:21:32.400balanced news, which is very problematic. Let's see here. We get a little farther.
01:21:39.040Oh yes, the UCP looks like they're going to be scrapping. That got leaked recently. Their
01:21:42.920plan to change how traffic tickets are processed. They're going to get rid of that crazed plan of
01:21:50.020getting rid of traffic court. So some realism seems to be perhaps sinking in on this party
01:21:56.260that's been embattled by shooting themselves in their feet very regularly, unfortunately.
01:22:01.200and one of the big ones recently was this bizarre plan to take away your ability to defend yourself
01:22:06.940on traffic violations. I mean, I understand the courts take up a lot of time, but you know,
01:22:12.920freedom is expensive sometimes. And hey, let's not pretend that every traffic violation you're
01:22:18.360guilty in. I think I'm guilty in 99% of the tickets I've gotten, but it's important that
01:22:22.640you have the ability to challenge that. And again, it's those individual rights they look at as
01:22:27.900something as if it's a convenience or a privilege or something to be easily dismissed. It's not.
01:22:33.620And the UCP burned on that, and it sounds like they're backing off on it, thankfully. I mean,
01:22:38.420it was already supposed to be imposed a while ago, and they sort of put the brakes on it,
01:22:42.400and now it's going all together, which is good. Of course, a lot of that's tied into,
01:22:47.860well, we've got the UCP battles going on in Red Deer. So we got that news. It sounds like they're
01:22:53.540going to be spreading it out, perhaps, over three days in three different cities. I mean,
01:22:57.220There might be as many as 15,000 people voting in this.
01:24:04.080It might turn into riots for all I know.
01:24:06.200But then if you start spreading it around to different areas in different days, well, then people start wondering, well, what's your motivation?
01:24:11.060As has been pointed out by some, Rick Bell really tied into that today.
01:24:15.700Jason Kinney is very strong with a lot of the immigrant communities.
01:24:18.520I mean, when he was the immigration minister and others, he connected very well.
01:24:23.620He'd get on the ground with new Canadians all the time, and he was a very effective minister that way.
01:24:29.420But now, of course, he's utilizing those connections to garner a lot of support and sell those memberships and get people to come out and vote to support him.
01:24:38.600But a lot of people wouldn't necessarily feel like going all the way up to Red Deer to do it.
01:24:41.620So now if you have a – because I think they're talking about the voting center being in the Genesis Center, I believe, in northeast Calgary.
01:24:47.120This isn't confirmed yet, but this is what we're hearing about.
01:24:50.140And, well, that, of course, facilitates where a lot of those memberships are being sold.
01:24:54.920The political play we're watching on this is unfortunately getting uglier and dirtier as we go along.
01:25:00.180It's unfortunate, but it's still fascinating at the same time.
01:25:03.680I really don't know what the heck's going to happen after April 9th, unless it goes to the 11th.
01:25:09.160I don't know how they're going to change these dates.