Western Standard - LIVE - Triggered： Canada loses under a Singh⧸Trudeau coalition.

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00:00:30.000 good morning it's march 22nd 2022 look at all those number twos welcome to triggered i'm cory

00:00:39.960 morgan this show is going to be coming to you live every day at 11 30 a.m mountain standard time

00:00:46.040 monday to friday it's the western standards daily live show we cover the top news stories that are

00:00:52.380 going on get the ranting out of my system and uh tend to get a number of good and interesting guests

00:00:57.360 on being live we have the comments as we can see from vince and jenna uh i encourage the comments

00:01:03.360 bring them out talk with each other try and fire comments out to me or the guests they don't always

00:01:08.000 have to be favorable but try to keep them polite i don't always necessarily get them out to the

00:01:12.240 guests but when i can i do because i like uh sharing those other points of view and i like

00:01:16.880 seeing a lively discussion going on in the comments section it keeps this more active and so on rather

00:01:22.880 in some of those you know canned recorded interviews that some other places offer so

00:01:27.840 of course keep in mind when we're live we get those technical hiccups now and then too that's

00:01:31.920 all par for the course here so uh yeah as vince alberto was saying trudeau's seeing the happy

00:01:38.080 couple and that's what i'm going to start off talking a little bit about welcome to a new

00:01:42.000 government in canada you know not really and it's not a formal coalition but the liberals and the

00:01:49.200 The NDP have formed a tight alliance, and they're hoping to maintain power until 2025 with this.

00:01:56.240 So, I mean, in this unholy alliance, Jagmeet Singh has fully tossed his NDP under the bus,

00:02:01.400 and he's formally joined Justin Trudeau at the hip as they brokered a deal to maintain power for the next three years together.

00:02:08.980 Singh's credibility as an independent party leader was already terribly shot when he joined hands with Justin

00:02:13.880 and supported the invocation of the Emergencies Act for a few disastrous hours last February.

00:02:19.200 The imposition of the Emergencies Act was an international embarrassment as the world watched a Prime Minister in utter panic,

00:02:26.680 invoking a form of martial law in order to shut down protests crippling the city of Ottawa under his watch.

00:02:33.340 I mean, the protests were almost gone, the borders were open, it was just bouncy castles and individuals,

00:02:39.280 but Justin felt he needed this Emergencies Act to do it.

00:02:41.680 Now, the NDP had traditionally been a party that stood up without compromise for the right to protest, if nothing else.

00:02:48.560 They jealously guarded individual rights as Tommy Douglas opposed Pierre Trudeau's imposition of the War Measures Act,

00:02:54.560 even when the FLQ is literally murdering people through acts of terrorism.

00:02:58.620 Singh tossed that traditional NDP adherence to the principle of protests aside as he pursued the principle of power, and it backfired on him.

00:03:06.920 The NDP silence was deafening as Trudeau backtracked on the Emergency Act less than 48 hours after forcing it through Parliament.

00:03:14.480 Now that committees are starting to evaluate just what happened in Ottawa during those protests,

00:03:19.000 the Prime Minister's looking weaker than ever, especially his case for invoking that act.

00:03:23.480 The government claims of foreign funding of the protests have been disproven.

00:03:26.860 There's been no organized effort for sedition found anywhere,

00:03:31.480 and no wild-eyed, crazed leaders could really be identified to point at.

00:03:36.300 Tamara Leach was a prime organizer, but upon examination it became clear

00:03:40.100 that she's as harmless as any other concerned Canadian citizen.

00:03:43.060 The government's embarrassed itself over the whole entire convoy debacle, and they know it.

00:03:48.560 People are getting tired of Trudeau's weak leadership,

00:03:51.000 and the NDP are truly starting to get tired of Singh's policy of lap-dogging for Trudeau.

00:03:55.940 The Conservative Party of Canada is holding a well-contested leadership race,

00:03:59.840 and may very well emerge from this race with a strong contender to lead the nation.

00:04:04.240 The Liberals may not be able to rely on weak leaders from the CPC in the next election,

00:04:09.180 and it's making them nervous.

00:04:10.760 In a minority government, the risk of a snap election always hangs over the heads of the party in power, or pretty much any party.

00:04:16.560 Trudeau's marriage with Singh has reduced that risk for a while, but it won't eliminate it.

00:04:21.740 With the commitment to setting up a national dental, pharmaceutical, and housing plan being made,

00:04:26.660 the Trudeau liberals are going to quickly expand our already ballooning debt.

00:04:30.760 And, of course, that's going to add to the inflation that's pressuring Canadians while we've got these tax hikes looming,

00:04:35.280 including a carbon tax coming right around the corner.

00:04:38.400 If financial issues pressure Canadians much more,

00:04:41.840 Liberal support's going to plummet.

00:04:43.660 While the NDP won't pull the plug on a government in that case,

00:04:46.340 the Liberal MPs might pull the plug on Trudeau.

00:04:49.160 I mean, when those Liberals' own necks are on the line,

00:04:51.260 their loyalty will fade fast.

00:04:53.260 It's well within the realm of possibility

00:04:55.340 the Liberal Party will tear their own leader down

00:04:57.680 in hopes of regaining public support if it sinks.

00:05:00.980 And Singh, he can only roll over for so long

00:05:03.560 as he's losing internal support within his party as well.

00:05:06.960 While his party members surely enjoy the big spending concessions being won with this alliance,

00:05:11.920 they have to be chafing in having such a close relationship with the liberals that they

00:05:15.300 traditionally actually despise. Now, while there's no formal coalition, the NDP won't be sitting in

00:05:20.280 cabinet. They're going to be bound to play nice with their liberal allies and in committees.

00:05:24.780 These investigative committees will be pressured to bury any adverse actions when it comes to

00:05:29.700 liberal actions and government actions. And the NDP MPs on those committees probably won't be

00:05:34.300 happy with that. I mean, there was a lot of bad government and principled MPs want to speak out

00:05:39.720 about that and expose it. They're going to have a hard time doing so now under this alliance.

00:05:44.340 While Trudeau and Singer claiming this alliance is going to last till 2025, that's pretty unlikely

00:05:48.660 in reality. What they have done is bought themselves some time, nothing more. If somehow

00:05:53.500 the Liberals surge in the polls, hey, they won't hesitate to call a snap election. And if they

00:05:58.400 slump very badly, they're going to shed their leader and likely be pushed into a new election

00:06:02.560 by a new leader. There's not going to be any winner in all this political brinkmanship being

00:06:07.760 played, only losers. And as usual, those losers are going to be Canadians at large as we foot the 1.00

00:06:12.960 bill for this increasingly ineffective federal government. That's where I'm at this morning. 0.93

00:06:19.900 Now, let's talk to Melanie and see what we have topping the news today.

00:06:24.520 hey there mel how's it going good busy as usual uh as you're uh exactly what you're speaking out

00:06:33.680 we've got a story about that on the website right now liberals ndp announcing their alliance to keep

00:06:39.340 the government in power till 2025 and of course trudeau has been heard saying that he will stay

00:06:46.740 on as long as he possibly can uh to lead the country uh we have another story up from christian

00:06:53.640 Freeland who said an independent media snub was an isolated event so you can check that one out

00:07:01.240 another story that has been of quite interest is about an unvaccinated man who was blocked from

00:07:09.200 so he he had returned to Canada was blocked from leaving Canada and prevented from leaving for

00:07:15.520 about two months he finally was able to get out of the country country and a follow-up with him

00:07:21.260 he's saying he will never return to the country again. We've got a story from our reporter,

00:07:28.800 Amanda, who put out a story showing that Canada has ranked in the bottom 10 of world countries

00:07:38.180 on individual liberties. So we are lower than Saudi Arabia. We are lower than Russia when it 0.93

00:07:44.940 comes to individual liberties. So check that one out. We have got our reporter Eva put out a story 0.99

00:07:52.840 on an Angus Reid poll that is basically showing the Tory leadership race is really kind of between

00:08:00.080 Paliyev and Sheree at this point. So you can see how that breaks down. We've also got ambassador,

00:08:08.160 sorry, Canada's last Afghanistan ambassador fled the country in August after the rapid collapse

00:08:17.220 was happening once NATO troops were withdrawn. So you can read up a little bit more about that

00:08:24.140 and how the ambassador said it was a very dangerous situation. Federal government hesitant

00:08:31.180 to decriminalize street drugs. So that is a good read. Bernier is fighting a Saskatoon

00:08:39.220 COVID election night ticket. I believe he has fought a number of tickets over the last few

00:08:46.200 years through the pandemic. We've got a judge, a story about a judge who criticized the leaders

00:08:54.040 Debates Commission after Rebel News was barred from covering the debates and then was awarded

00:09:02.040 an injunction, a last minute emergency injunction in order to do so. Coming up, Doug Ford government

00:09:08.720 is introducing new legislation, giving his government permanent enforcement tools to deal

00:09:15.320 with what the government will deem is an illegal blockade. So we'll have that on the site very soon

00:09:22.160 here uh we also have a a breakdown or a or a recap of uh the events that happened throughout the

00:09:29.920 weekend with the um with the protests that happened in downtown in the belt line um at

00:09:36.240 central memorial park uh at city hall uh there's there's sort of a recap of everything that

00:09:41.520 happened there including some tense moments and we've got a lot of video footage in that one

00:09:46.800 and uh also there is uh the alberta auditor general's report is coming out this afternoon

00:09:53.360 so we will certainly be digging that apart great well plenty of stuff for us to chew on as usual

00:10:00.480 today another busy news day uh and yeah it's really worth looking into all that stuff that

00:10:05.360 was really a crazy weekend of protests in downtown calgary and we had a number of people on the

00:10:09.280 ground including yourself uh watching that and and there's a lot of video and stories on that

00:10:14.320 for people to follow up to just kind of see what these protests have kind of devolved into well

00:10:19.200 and it sounds like there will be more protests this coming weekend uh looks like they will be

00:10:26.720 moving to princess island park as we're hearing so we are going to get details about that uh hoping

00:10:33.360 to uh try to get a chat with the calgary police service see if there's uh you know what what the

00:10:39.200 plans are uh heading into this coming weekend and we will also be there doing live coverage again

00:10:45.200 this weekend great well thanks for the update i'll let you get back on putting all that news

00:10:50.240 out melanie and we'll see you after the show thanks gory great thanks so yeah lots and lots

00:10:55.760 going on i should uh i neglected to mention earlier my guests for today actually as i was

00:10:59.840 talking about mistakes we make during live shows occasionally john gorman from the canadian nuclear

00:11:04.480 association is going to be coming on i'm looking forward to that you know we don't hear enough talk

00:11:09.200 about nuclear power options in Canada, and as we go into an energy crisis, our costs

00:11:15.220 shoot through the roof. We don't see much push for what is, at least an emissions-free sort of

00:11:20.360 form of producing generation of electricity. After that, I'm going to have Dave Makachaka

00:11:26.400 on a little later, and we're going to talk about Arctic sovereignty, which when I did my interview

00:11:30.400 with Jean Charest the other day, he brought that up. Actually, it was just well-timed,

00:11:36.020 And as I'd said on that interview too, I've worked in the Arctic for a number of years.

00:11:39.600 It's an area I'm very familiar with and quite concerned about it.

00:11:43.120 It's where Canada's really been dropping the ball on ourselves for quite some time now.

00:11:47.720 So just that reminder, and that's why these news reads are starting to take so long.

00:11:51.900 We have been expanding.

00:11:53.160 We've been doing fantastic here with the Western Standard.

00:11:55.480 We have an Ottawa division on the go now.

00:11:57.320 We've got a legislative reporter in Edmonton.

00:11:59.640 We've got a readout in BC, all sorts of people here.

00:12:02.580 and they're just putting out that news content and good, unique, original news content all the

00:12:07.640 time. We've got a new one now and I'm going to be talking to him soon is Chris Oldcorn. He's out

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00:12:54.680 Let's talk a little bit more about the ranting.

00:12:56.500 Jackie Burton just saying

00:12:59.300 a question if down the road

00:13:01.360 in 2025 conservatives

00:13:03.220 get in, can the Trudeau and NDP

00:13:05.520 pull them down

00:13:07.340 with a non-confidence vote? Yes, they can

00:13:09.120 if it's a minority conservative government

00:13:11.240 and assuming that

00:13:13.220 the NDP and the liberals

00:13:15.180 have made up enough people

00:13:16.320 to

00:13:17.980 overpower that government. Or we could see

00:13:21.140 this happen with Harper even in a minority.

00:13:23.120 They could try and push, though it never quite

00:13:25.160 happen but they could theoretically push the governor general to recognize a formal coalition

00:13:29.540 government of those two rather than the conservative government so it really and we look at these

00:13:35.940 alliances yeah if the conservatives are going to come in in Canada they're going to need a majority

00:13:40.100 they have to get a majority not not a minority government it will not last long the NDP and

00:13:44.840 liberals have proven themselves to be very little different from each other and more than willing

00:13:48.760 to get together and do stuff somebody said something along the lines of you know can the

00:13:53.620 the senate uh step in on on government that was brenda asked that no not really i mean

00:13:58.760 there's nothing that liberals and the ndp are doing that isn't legitimate or allowed i mean

00:14:04.560 that's the way it works in that system they can get together as i said earlier it's not even a

00:14:08.940 formal coalition a formal coalition government would mean they would share cabinet seats and a

00:14:13.740 lot of other positions this is a an alliance they got an informal agreement that's why i don't think

00:14:18.100 it's going to last all the way till 2025 anyways but it gives them some feeling of stability

00:14:23.520 and of course Trudeau had to sign his soul away to some NDP concessions and the NDP have to

00:14:27.940 swallow a lot of pride to basically become part of the Liberal Party but there's nothing for the

00:14:33.200 Senate to step in on in a sense in this I mean they might want to step up on some policies if

00:14:38.300 they don't feel they're appropriate or or things like that I guess if they were coming down the

00:14:42.520 pipe but it there's nothing much else to be done for it eventually there will be a non-confidence

00:14:47.940 vote or the government will run the full five years and that's how long it is legally five

00:14:53.000 years they could go in power if nothing else pulls them out or they could just choose to call an

00:14:57.740 election at some point. Time will tell. I don't think we're going to see one very soon, but my

00:15:02.720 prediction for what it's worth, and that's very far out in this crazy political world, is that

00:15:07.240 they're not going to make it all the way till 2025, even if they want to. You know, Cheryl

00:15:13.460 saying Justin didn't keep his word about trees planted and drinking water and reserves. What

00:15:17.360 makes Jagmeet think Justin will keep his word to him? I don't think Singh thinks that Justin will

00:15:21.440 keep his word, but he just wants to keep in power like so many others. And I don't know. I mean,

00:15:25.940 Justin has lied repeatedly. He hasn't kept up with any of his promises. Well, I shouldn't say any,

00:15:29.500 but very many of them. I mean, we remember way back when he first got in, he said it was the

00:15:34.000 last first past the post-election. That fell by the wayside. You know, budgets balanced themselves,

00:15:39.500 all sorts of things. But the thing is, Canadians keep rewarding him by putting him back in.

00:15:44.900 So I don't know what it will take. Obviously, the truth doesn't serve Justin well, so he'll stick to

00:15:51.200 just blowing sunshine up our backsides and it seems to win him elections. The ball is in the

00:15:58.120 Conservative Party's court at this point. They have a leadership race going on. There's a lot

00:16:03.520 of candidates. Hopefully, you know, not only getting a leader that a lot of Canadians or

00:16:08.100 enough Canadians can accept is the outcome of that race, but they really as a party have to

00:16:12.660 get together and figure out how they can sell a product that is satisfying to Canadians at large

00:16:17.880 enough to win a majority. Unfortunately, the way Canada is laid out, it's a rare occasion. I mean,

00:16:23.400 the Liberal Party dominates in the last few generations. You know, it breaks with Conservative

00:16:29.120 parties in between long dynasties of Liberal governments. And I don't see many indications

00:16:36.020 it'll change too soon. That's why I feel that, you know, the problem with Canada is systematic

00:16:38.960 rather than party and looking in the long term. But I mean, for the short term gain, if we could

00:16:43.680 get some Conservatives in there for a little while, it would certainly take some of the pain 0.55

00:16:46.660 office for a bit but inevitably this country i think is going down a bad path in general

00:16:52.820 um let's see and and roxy saying the senate needs to stop this too there's nothing to stop

00:16:58.500 i'm afraid it's an alliance of elected officials there's nothing that one can do about it

00:17:04.500 it's uh they're they're all elected they can do whatever they like uh as far as that goes i mean

00:17:10.980 uh if they put a policy in the senate perhaps could stop the national dental program that

00:17:16.020 Trudeau's looking to put in or the housing program. I mean, these things are going to cost

00:17:19.980 billions. It's crazy with what they're looking to do. There's no doubt about that.

00:17:24.520 But they're not doing anything technically illegal or immoral, to be honest. It's just a

00:17:30.840 matter of getting together and saying that's what they want to do. We don't have recall legislation

00:17:34.920 of any sort, so there isn't anything we can do between elections to change these guys out if we

00:17:39.020 wanted to. And again, I think Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, they're happy enough with this group

00:17:43.440 anyways. They wouldn't recall them even if they could. So we got to ride this out. I would say

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00:20:01.700 there and as i said we've had a lot of energy discussion and this is a portion of the energy

00:20:06.340 discussion we just don't hear nearly enough about so we've got john gorman he's the president of

00:20:11.540 the canadian nuclear association and we're going to explore some of those uh power generation

00:20:16.900 options within canada so let's bring john in here hey how you doing hello corey very well thanks

00:20:24.420 i appreciate you coming on uh as you might have heard a little bit in the lead up and you know as

00:20:28.660 you're more aware than anybody we're in a the world's in an energy crisis we're really

00:20:32.660 scrambling trying to figure out how to keep energy affordable reliable uh and safe and uh

00:20:39.460 while we talk about all these different options it just seems nuclear keeps falling by the wayside

00:20:43.780 for some reason i mean we do have nuclear generation in canada it's not some ban sort

00:20:48.340 of thing it's been happening but there's not a lot of discussion on expanding it is there

00:20:52.900 Well, you're absolutely right, Corey. We do have some nuclear in Canada, more than a little.

00:21:00.700 You know, about 16% of Canada's electricity comes from nuclear energy.

00:21:07.340 It has for a number of decades now, about two-thirds of Ontario's electricity and about a third of New Brunswick's electricity.

00:21:15.060 And of course, we have the world's second largest exporter of uranium right next door to Alberta in Saskatchewan.

00:21:21.540 and Alberta sharing that Athabasca Basin, which holds, I think, the world's biggest reserves of

00:21:26.660 uranium. So world-class provider of nuclear for a number of decades. And of course, it was on the

00:21:32.760 basis of nuclear that in Ontario, we were able to phase out coal-fired electricity generation,

00:21:39.480 which continues to be the single largest carbon reduction initiative in North America.

00:21:46.460 So you're right, it is surprising that we don't see the federal government being clear

00:21:52.700 about the role that nuclear has played in Canada and can continue to play across Canada

00:21:58.940 as we strive to have that secure, clean, affordable electricity system that we know has to grow.

00:22:05.060 So nuclear generation, I mean, the big thing these days is, of course, carbon emissions.

00:22:09.860 That's what people are looking to reduce.

00:22:11.680 And most forms of generating energy will emit a degree.

00:22:15.040 I mean, we're getting better at mitigating, but there's still a great deal of it when it comes to petrochemical forms of generation or even in damning areas.

00:22:21.820 There's been some concerns about methane emissions.

00:22:24.680 Nuclear doesn't emit any carbon when it's generating, right?

00:22:28.740 That's right.

00:22:29.300 And in fact, it's, you know, according to the United Nations, it's the lowest full life carbon cycle footprint of any electricity generation source.

00:22:38.800 So very, very low carbon.

00:22:40.380 And what we're particularly excited about, Corey, is the innovations that are going on in the industry right now, particularly around small modular reactors, this latest generation of very scalable high temperature heat and electricity that can be produced.

00:22:57.960 and excited about its applications for Alberta, particularly in the oil sands, where we can use

00:23:03.240 that very high temperature heat to help in SAGD operations and replace some of the fossil fuels

00:23:10.520 that are used in the production of oil and gas, so that as we go into this lower carbon future,

00:23:16.120 Alberta continues to produce the most responsible and lowest carbon product that we can. And

00:23:22.200 nuclear is going to be absolutely key to that. Yeah, and our premier in Alberta, I believe he's

00:23:27.700 spoke about that recently with these modular generation. And what I like about that is it's

00:23:32.760 not an either or thing. It's not somebody talking, saying, well, we have to shut down and get out of

00:23:37.300 the oil sands or natural gas or things like that. They can complement each other. These can actually,

00:23:42.700 again, getting towards mitigation of emissions, but still, we're going to develop our resources

00:23:47.880 and do what we can while they're still viable. And it could be a very good partnership.

00:23:52.380 well you're absolutely right that that energy transition that we're all looking for has to

00:23:58.460 involve all forms of of carbon uh mitigation as we make the transition right we know that oil and

00:24:06.140 gas are going to be needed for for quite some time it powers 80 of the world's economy uh so i think

00:24:11.980 we need clear recognition uh by this uh by this federal government that it's going to take all

00:24:16.940 technologies to make that happen and in canada's case uh you know that means carbon capture and

00:24:22.620 storage it means hydrogen it means uh wind water solar and of course nuclear the the the great

00:24:29.340 thing about nuclear is as uh you're alluding to corey is you know we can use it to do multiple

00:24:35.420 things we can connect it to the electricity grid to produce clean electricity or we can take these

00:24:40.860 smaller uh very scalable small modular reactors and use them in industrial settings whether it's

00:24:46.780 to produce and use that high temperature heat to produce steel and cement potash or in the oil

00:24:53.100 sands to use it to produce that high temperature steam that's used for extraction and lower the

00:24:59.740 carbon on that as we transition to a lower carbon future. So I mean one of the bigger hang-ups with

00:25:05.900 nuclear and expanding on it and it's always been there is fear and safety. I see a commenter

00:25:11.340 terry saying you know no nuclear in alberta ontario is dangerous with darlington uh and

00:25:16.220 he brings up fukushima and chernobyl uh but i mean statistically nuclear is exceedingly safe

00:25:23.180 it is exceedingly safe it's uh you know as as safe as any other electricity source out there

00:25:29.740 and when i say that i mean again going back to the united nations uh as safe as wind and solar

00:25:36.060 production in terms of uh in terms of you know kilowatt hour of electricity production so uh we

00:25:42.780 do have uh you know there there are real uh questions that people have about nuclear

00:25:47.740 particularly now as they look to uh examine the different technology solutions that are available

00:25:53.740 to to us as we try to strive for that through this transition into a lower carbon world and so 0.76

00:25:59.500 nuclear is getting a close look at and in the process of doing that uh there are very legitimate

00:26:05.900 questions that come up. Some of it is based on misinformation and stigma, of course, from

00:26:12.160 things that have happened in the past or been blown out of proportion. And so we're trying to

00:26:19.980 engage people in those discussions, make them understand that nuclear is not only a very safe

00:26:25.560 way of producing electricity, but is produced in the most responsible way of any other electricity

00:26:31.840 generation source and i'm talking here about another concern that comes off up often which is

00:26:36.560 the nuclear waste right the spent fuel and the fact is that dealing with spent fuel is a very

00:26:43.680 straightforward thing to do you know there has never been anyone injured let alone killed by

00:26:48.800 spent fuel here at home or globally and we have a very complete plan in place that deals responsibly

00:26:55.680 with every bit of waste that the industry produces it's pre-paid for and we have a permanent storage

00:27:01.200 facility uh going through the approvals process now so so a very good story on the waste as well

00:27:07.360 but we need to engage people in discussions like this corey so they understand what nuclear can do

00:27:12.240 well yeah unfortunately you know humanity being humanity one of the first things we did with

00:27:16.000 nuclear power once we made breakthroughs and developed it was find ways to blow each other

00:27:19.840 off the map uh and and it does put a vision in people's heads they think nuclear weapons when

00:27:25.840 they think of nuclear and I mean you know we should be able to separate I mean the weaponry

00:27:31.280 from the power generation that they're completely different applications and one wouldn't feed into

00:27:35.760 the other at all right no that's right in fact there really is no there really is no direct

00:27:42.480 correlation between nations that have developed nuclear power as a pathway to get nuclear weapons

00:27:51.200 So that's the first thing that I'd like to say. But when it comes to Canada and other nations who are developing nuclear power for clean electricity and clean heat, these nations sign up to very strict international cooperation agreements that subject them to, you know, very intense scrutiny by the international regulator, which is the International Atomic Energy Agency.

00:28:14.700 And so, you know, if you were in the game of being a nation that was looking to develop, you know, nuclear weapons, starting with nuclear power and having to have the International Atomic Energy Agency literally living with you, it's kind of like inviting your parents in line into your house to help you raise your children when you decide to go the nuclear power route.

00:28:39.980 And it's probably the least attractive way of trying to develop nuclear weapons, right?

00:28:46.080 So Canada has very strict agreements that it has signed on to ensuring that it only uses nuclear for power purposes and not for weapons.

00:28:57.880 And similarly, we've got a very robust framework internationally around that.

00:29:02.140 So over the years, has cost effectiveness of nuclear infrastructure and generation come down?

00:29:09.000 because a lot of past projects needed a lot of subsidies in order to get rolling and some people

00:29:13.400 have had questions that perhaps it's not the most cost effective way of generating power has that

00:29:17.800 improved well yeah i'd look at that in two different ways cory firstly you know the conventional

00:29:23.800 nuclear plants are very large and have typically involved state financing so if you call that um

00:29:30.760 you know if you call that a form of subsidy then yes i mean these these huge infrastructure

00:29:34.280 projects have required state funding and many of the projects like all infrastructure projects

00:29:41.560 you know are subject to to going over budget depending on where you are and those are the

00:29:45.640 examples that always get pointed to but i think the most exciting developments that's been happening

00:29:50.120 in the industry lately is this new innovation in small modular reactors so these very small

00:29:55.240 scalable you know high temperature heat machines they are produced in factories many of them are

00:30:01.640 you know able to fit on large trucks and and shipped to site so they're mass manufactured

00:30:07.240 they can be financed by um private investment firms rather than than the uh the state itself

00:30:14.120 and in this case it's the through the production of multiple units uh the way that we envision

00:30:19.960 uh there being a huge market demand in canada for these that you're able to keep costs low and so

00:30:27.000 So we see a lot of, a lot of potential in that being very cost-effective.

00:30:30.820 Great. Yeah. And those modular ones do sound very interesting.

00:30:33.440 Looking farther North, I'm wondering, uh, it's, I'm going to be talking actually to a columnist about Arctic sovereignty a little later.

00:30:40.020 And I'd worked in the Arctic sometime in the past and in some of those smaller towns up there, you know, a few thousand people, they predominantly get their generation through diesel,

00:30:49.300 which is very expensive to ship and difficult and just not the most environmentally friendly

00:30:56.980 form. Would modular potentially have applications in those isolated communities?

00:31:01.300 Absolutely. Some of the units that we're looking at are very small, right? They can go down to as

00:31:07.460 small as, let's say, two megawatts, which would be enough to power a couple hundred households,

00:31:15.620 for example right and then they they scale up to about 300 megawatts which is quite large but with

00:31:20.420 these smaller ones you know you can bring these to a northern community or to a northern mining

00:31:27.860 operation or industrial operation but let's take the example of a northern indigenous community

00:31:33.860 you can place it there to be producing not only electricity but that high temperature heat as we

00:31:38.900 were saying and that heat can be used for heating homes you know in a geothermal type setup or heat

00:31:45.460 pump type setup and at the same time you could be producing hydrogen you can actually be doing all

00:31:50.100 three of these things at at one time whether you're in an oil sands operation or in a northern

00:31:54.740 community producing hydrogen high temperature steam and electricity and so um many of these

00:32:00.740 units are able to be on site they don't have to be touched or refueled some of the technologies for

00:32:05.780 as much as 20 years uh right um and you avoid to your point corey you you avoid the not only

00:32:12.660 the emissions associated and the cost associated with diesel but uh as you know it's it's getting

00:32:17.460 harder and harder to have the safe transport of diesel or any type of really heavy commodities as

00:32:23.460 as the climate warms right those windows are getting smaller so this is certainly a prime

00:32:28.260 application for small modular reactors yeah so uh we we have been exporting uranium as you said we're

00:32:34.580 a large exporter we're a big producer in northern saskatchewan i think a lot of those mines though

00:32:38.820 have been uh stopped and shut in is there still a lot of deposits remaining though like if we

00:32:44.340 expanded our consumption of fuels uh would we still have the means to produce them we do uh

00:32:51.220 we do in fact we're sitting on some of the best reserves uh in the world uh there have been a

00:32:55.940 number of studies done recently as as the world is going through this sort of nuclear renaissance now

00:33:00.340 and and recognizing that we're going to need a lot of new nuclear as we strive towards this

00:33:05.700 net zero future uh so uh yeah certainly lots of supply of uranium to meet our needs

00:33:12.580 um new technologies that are coming on board now that actually use the spent fuel from the

00:33:17.700 conventional reactors to power these new reactors so a sort of recycling of fuel which is which is

00:33:24.100 very exciting and uh corey as you've probably seen the the price of of uranium stocks uh cameco and

00:33:30.820 and uh others uh you know going through the roof now just in in in recognition of the fact that uh

00:33:36.900 a lot of new nuclear build out is uh is is going to take place so i i guess just another aspect if

00:33:43.780 we expanded our mining or or uh streamlined it more there's markets as well i guess for a lot

00:33:49.140 of product for other applications such as uh diagnostic medicine x-rays things such as that

00:33:54.100 as well right yeah you know canada well one of the things that's that's often overlooked about

00:34:00.100 uh about nuclear is its um innovation in uh medical isotopes so nuclear medicine and uh canada

00:34:10.020 is one of the the world's foremost producers of various types of uh isotopes i think we produce

00:34:15.140 about 70 percent of uh the most familiar one which is cobalt you know used in diagnostics around

00:34:22.340 cancer and x-ray machines etc but lately uh canada has been leading the world in terms of new types

00:34:29.300 of very targeted isotopes that are being produced uh right from the the running plants in in in

00:34:37.060 ontario at the darlington and the bruce power sites so this is a sort of breakthrough in terms

00:34:43.860 of how we're able to produce isotopes and as a consequence ship them around the world to help

00:34:49.540 other to help other nations and just a very promising area for for nuclear medicine in

00:34:58.420 particular cancer treatment as we go forward yeah well i i appreciate you coming in to explain a lot

00:35:04.420 of that because it is a big growth area there's a lot of misconceptions or fear and i mean that

00:35:08.740 the more we could they're valid concerns i mean people worry you see some bad scenes or things

00:35:13.460 you know, from inappropriate utilization, I guess, or poor use of nuclear and other applications.

00:35:20.740 Is there something else you'd like to touch upon before I let you go there, John?

00:35:24.580 Yeah, thanks, Corey. I think just to go back to a point I mentioned at the beginning, which is

00:35:29.700 one of the things that I'm personally most excited about is just the opportunity that there is for

00:35:35.700 Alberta to diversify its energy sector and its workforce with the additional jobs and the

00:35:44.100 additional expertise of nuclear. It's not only the proximity to the Iranian deposits and things,

00:35:51.780 which is helpful, but it's this application of small modular reactors for its high temperature

00:35:56.820 industrial heat, clean heat, which can really provide a competitive advantage to our

00:36:03.860 our valuable oil and gas sector and at the same time be developing a new stream of jobs

00:36:11.500 which has to do with nuclear operation of these high temperature heat plants.

00:36:16.820 So I think that's a very exciting pathway for nuclear and I'm glad to see that Premier

00:36:22.220 Kenney is such a vocal champion of the technology.

00:36:28.420 Yeah, well, I'm looking forward to seeing it expanding further.

00:36:31.060 I think we're really behind too long on this issue in general, so we're seeing it moving ahead.

00:36:39.120 Where can we find more information about your organization and about nuclear in Canada in

00:36:43.220 general? Well, I think you've been kind enough to show the audience some of the information

00:36:50.660 that's on our website, and I'd suggest that as the first place to go. So www.cna, Canadian

00:36:57.380 nuclear association that's cna.ca and a great place to start and a lot of resources on there

00:37:03.860 that give give your listeners the most up-to-date information excellent well thank you very much for

00:37:09.620 coming on to join us today and we're looking forward to seeing i'm really looking forward

00:37:13.300 to seeing those modular uh you know innovations coming along it really could be a game changer

00:37:17.620 in a lot of areas and industries thank you corey all right thanks bye-bye so yes that was john

00:37:24.820 gorman the president of the canadian nuclear uh association and uh as i said i'm very interested

00:37:31.380 in this there's people and their concerns are valid i mean nuclear is scary it's very potentially

00:37:36.180 dangerous potentially i mean if it's done wrong uh we have to look at the whole world history on it

00:37:41.620 there are i believe thousands of reactors around the world like the only major real problems we

00:37:48.180 had was uh chernobyl yeah it was run by uh you know soviet system that couldn't really manufacture

00:37:54.100 a reliable alarm clock, much less safely run a nuclear facility, unfortunately, and it led to a

00:38:01.800 horrible disaster. Fukushima, well, yes, but again, it was a localized disaster. The earthquake itself

00:38:08.420 was the bigger disaster rather than the nuclear release, but it's still of concern. Sure, it's of

00:38:13.400 concern, but again, you can't forget the thousands and thousands, I mean, millions of megawatts of

00:38:17.560 power that have been generated through nuclear perfectly safely. And, you know, we got to look

00:38:23.060 at some other aspects of diversifying the economy and things and and uh as i was saying in the

00:38:28.260 arctic you know it could be interesting getting some different forms of generating uh power up

00:38:32.820 there those people need it it's expensive and then we could develop other resources while we're at it

00:38:37.000 um it's like pat uh andruziak is saying you know a pity we have to think nuclear when we have a good

00:38:42.360 supply of oil and gas but it doesn't have to be either or the nuclear can supplement the production

00:38:47.860 of the oil and gas that was talked about with the oil sands like the oil sands for people familiar

00:38:52.020 with you know SAGD and some of those terms that steam assisted uh what is it gravity development

00:38:58.100 or something like that boy now i'm forgetting it i've been out of the field too long but the thing

00:39:01.620 is you need to generate a lot of heat and steam to do it and you're burning natural gas to do that

00:39:06.420 if we're using nuclear to bring that heat about to heat that steam to extract the the the bitumen

00:39:12.260 from the oil sands where then we can export the petrochemical products from that plus the natural

00:39:17.940 gas that we were burning previously to get the stuff from the oil sands, we could be exporting

00:39:22.960 or burning here for our local power supplies. Like it's just win, win, win. And being modular,

00:39:29.260 these are smaller and perhaps a little more affordable, but we can look a little broader

00:39:33.040 with it. To Soneco, well, you're suspicious of everything, Soneco, but that's okay. So it's 0.73

00:39:38.160 suspicious of the new wave push for nuclear power and who's pushing it. I think a lot of consumers

00:39:42.540 are pushing it. People who do want to reduce emissions are pushing it. And I'm not seeing a

00:39:46.760 big push. That's why I brought Mr. Gorman on. I wish, in my view, it was a bigger push. We need

00:39:52.520 to move on. You know, Wildrose saying Alberta doesn't need nuclear power. We have oil and gas.

00:39:56.980 Well, that's like saying we don't need carrots because we grow grain. Come on, guys. We can

00:40:01.500 walk and chew gum. We can produce a number of forms of energy. It doesn't have to be either or.

00:40:06.460 Three Mile Island. Yes, in Elisa, that happened. You know how many died there? Zero. So that's

00:40:11.040 what I mean. With 60 years of nuclear generation, we can only point to a handful. I could point

00:40:16.700 to, if I wanted, the list of a whole pile of thousands of people who have died from mining

00:40:20.360 coal, people who have died in oil field accidents. There's been a lot of energy generation projects

00:40:27.480 that unfortunately have led to harm. Nuclear isn't much worse than the rest of them. Some people

00:40:34.020 pointing out, though, yeah, you know, when we've got Trudeau in charge, do we want to give him more

00:40:36.940 authority over things like that? Well, we already do. There's a lot of nuclear already, and it's

00:40:40.260 getting older. Oh, let's see, somebody was, there we are, steam-assisted gravity draining. Thank

00:40:45.720 you, Daryl. I was a brain farting on that one. But there's a lot of forms of generation. We

00:40:50.660 shouldn't rule any out. We don't have large rivers that can be dammed, you know, if we're looking to

00:40:57.940 generate power. This is one of those things from the green kooks, if there are in our case to

00:41:00.860 reduce emissions, things like that. Oh, well, hydro. Well, yeah, that's great in Quebec. That's

00:41:05.440 great in even BC. And even there, they can't get site see-through. There's another thing, too. I

00:41:09.840 mean, nuclear plants and even the modular ones, we know we'll get opposition. But there's John

00:41:14.500 Gornley. You know, he's a great radio host in Saskatchewan, for those who are familiar with

00:41:17.780 him. And I'm pretty sure he's the one who coined it. He used to call them paves. I think it was,

00:41:21.620 John. And that's people against virtually everything. It doesn't matter what you do,

00:41:24.840 somebody's going to oppose it. And you know what? We need power. We need revenue. We need

00:41:30.400 economic recovery. And at some point, the paves have to be said, well, we're sorry you're concerned.

00:41:37.240 And but we're going ahead. We have to do it. It has to get done. Shirley asking about nuclear

00:41:42.840 waste that that was addressed on the show and nuclear if you look that up the amount of waste

00:41:46.840 well two things for one they're getting better at actually utilizing the waste now for uh further

00:41:50.820 use and products as well uh as you heard it's it's stored in barrels and dumped in the ocean no

00:41:55.920 no canada does not do that and uh it's a very small amount of waste and it's actually very

00:42:01.480 easy to contain it if you look that up with nuclear i know i'm starting to sound like an

00:42:04.760 advocate but yeah i am pro-nuclear but i understand people here aren't necessarily pro as well and

00:42:09.560 that's why we're having the discussion um you know alberta just needs to be a sovereign nation

00:42:15.160 well i agree there but that has nothing to do with nuclear but the nuclear wouldn't hurt i guess is

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00:43:46.680 Look them up, support them. They will support you. So let's get a little further on some other

00:43:52.400 news stories as we get on with things. Here's one that popped up. Yes, we covered that a lot

00:43:57.740 a little while ago. If you remember during the convoy, there was all that baloney and I did a

00:44:02.340 long rant on that about supposedly these arsons coming from the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa and they

00:44:10.040 tried taping the doors shut and they were going to burn all these people down in an apartment

00:44:14.160 building and and they felt that they even self-identified that's where it smelled like

00:44:18.260 the Juicy Smollett thing because I guess somebody was walking through a tenant walked by while this

00:44:22.000 guy's lighting this fire apparently hey what you doing oh we're gonna burn your building down

00:44:26.040 we're with the Freedom Convoys oh well carry on then and he got in the elevator and went home

00:44:31.060 went to bed. That's how realistic this tweet thread was. Yet people took it seriously and

00:44:38.540 they really believe that this ding dong was linked with the convoy. They really believe 1.00

00:44:42.700 there was these people that were looking to pull off what would have been one of the most

00:44:46.940 horrific of terrorist acts in Canada. That sounds like something really happened, which still is

00:44:52.800 horrifying. Some idiot really was trying to burn a building, but it had nothing to do with the 1.00

00:44:55.780 convoy. And Ottawa detectives have confirmed that yesterday. They said, no, this had nothing to do 1.00

00:45:02.240 with the convoy. They said it was some local man named Connor McDonald. He's been charged with

00:45:07.140 arson and mischief and attempting to burn the building on February 6th. There's no information

00:45:12.260 that says this is a quote from indicating he was involved in any way with the protest,

00:45:16.500 which was happening to be going on while this took place. So this was a lunatic doing something 0.94

00:45:20.480 otherwise. But again, we have our politicians, we had our control freaks, we had the others 0.97

00:45:26.400 using this as yet one more excuse to bring in things like the Emergencies Act, to suspend

00:45:30.920 individual rights, to crack down on people. You know, it was, there's no basis for it. I mean,

00:45:39.360 we knew it was BS then, now it's just vindication. But this is getting back to what I was talking

00:45:43.660 about when it came to Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh's Unholy Alliance. You see, we're finding

00:45:49.060 these things out after the fact this was due to a police investigation that followed up later on

00:45:55.220 but what we're also having following up right now is a lot of senate committees parliamentary

00:45:59.660 committees things like that and that's where we've been getting these news you know black

00:46:03.640 locks reporter and the western standard has been reporting on that finding out that a lot of these

00:46:09.620 allegations from the government are all these excuses for invoking the emergencies act just

00:46:13.740 held no water, such as the foreign funding myth. And in this case, the supposed terrorist attempt

00:46:20.280 with men taping doors shut and trying to burn down a building in Ottawa. I mean, it's a horrifying

00:46:26.900 thought, but it turns out, again, as often is the case, complete BS. Apparently, the carpet got a

00:46:33.800 little burned there. I mean, it's still disturbing to think of somebody even trying to light a fire

00:46:37.180 in an apartment building. But the story just stunk. I still am in shock, you know, with people

00:46:42.160 who took it seriously, elected officials and that, and media members, while this dork was

00:46:46.880 tweeting about it and gave that story. Like I said, it's just, wow, is there not any critical

00:46:51.900 discussion when, as I said, with that timeline, with this guy tweeting these pictures from the

00:46:55.920 security thing, where a supposed apartment dweller, like I said, came in and said, hey,

00:47:01.820 what are you doing? Hey, I'm burning your building down. And he scratched his head,

00:47:05.280 went to bed, went to sleep. I can't judge every person's reaction to things, but I think in most

00:47:11.460 circumstances, the guy might have considered calling the police or, you know, leaving,

00:47:16.920 going somewhere else, not being burned to a cinder. It was just bizarre, but people took it

00:47:21.260 seriously, took it seriously. And, uh, that's where we went. So that's clear. That was a bunch

00:47:27.820 of baloney. Oh yeah. And the mayor, Jim Watson of Ottawa, uh, he also told city council, you know, 0.76

00:47:32.000 we learned the malicious intent of these protesters occupying the city. He directly blamed it on the

00:47:37.160 protesters uh here's a federal judge has cited the leaders debates commission for unfairly

00:47:44.560 blacklisting certain media from asking questions i think mel talked about that as well with the

00:47:48.880 news check-in earlier uh she sharply criticized the commission because they blacklisted rebel 0.99

00:47:53.580 news network again at the debates last september and said there's room in the nation for the

00:47:57.700 expression of expose opposing points of view you know why we always have to push to get in i mean

00:48:03.140 Rebel, hey, I consider them friendly competitors. They break some great stuff. They go into some

00:48:08.180 areas that other media outlets don't. They can definitely be a little sensationalistic. Sometimes

00:48:14.100 it's a mix between entertainment and media, but they have a place out there and they deserve that

00:48:19.620 place. And we cannot let these groups and such start filtering our media. How often do we keep

00:48:26.360 seeing that trend? You know, the constant attacks, the constant ways of trying to block independent

00:48:31.500 media from its ability to get out and put out their coverage on issues and on large events

00:48:38.720 going on. And it's always after the fact. Unfortunately, you know, you have to come in

00:48:44.140 later on and do the court challenges to get in. And, you know, they'll probably ban them again

00:48:47.400 from future ones and they'll have to fight and the event is done by the time they get back in.

00:48:52.560 Maybe we got to start slapping some of these commissions actually with some fines for some

00:48:56.100 of the, in my view, violations of free press, which is a very integral right. You don't have

00:49:00.320 to like the press outlet. I think the Red Star is an abomination of media publications in Canada.

00:49:06.940 And yes, I'm referring to the Toronto Star, but I don't think it should be banned. I don't think

00:49:10.540 it should get a nickel of tax dollars, but they can run their socialistic crap all they want. 1.00

00:49:14.320 They should have as much access to political events and things as well as any other media 0.85

00:49:21.700 outlet. I never would want to see those sorts of things limited or banned. And we would just have

00:49:26.260 to call out their slanted gross coverage after the fact. That's the way it goes. That's what

00:49:30.220 free media is about. But we are not in that. We're constantly pushing back and trying to pick and

00:49:34.900 choose which ones are appropriate and not appropriate. And that's a bad recipe. And we

00:49:41.000 keep seeing it. We keep seeing this happening over and over again. And it's disturbing. We have to be

00:49:47.440 very concerned about this. And just to finish up with that, Michael Cormier, the Commission's

00:49:52.320 executive director is a former CBC reporter. There's a shocker. You want a good path to a

00:49:57.160 government appointment, work for the CBC, the mother corp there, that tax funded abomination

00:50:01.880 there. That one I want to see gone or at least fully privatized. That's different than even the

00:50:06.560 red star. But he said that the commission's mandate is to ensure high journalistic standards

00:50:11.580 for the leaders debates. Well, if that was the case, how about high standards of journalistic

00:50:16.600 principle and just allowing every disparate outlet to come in there and cover it, whether you like

00:50:21.920 what they're going to ask or not okay that's enough of me shooting at our terrible and

00:50:27.660 thankfully fading away legacy media outlets let's bring in dave makachuk and get on to the next

00:50:33.200 subject for the day i've been looking forward to this as well so where do we got him he's coming

00:50:39.320 right away we're going to talk about arctic sovereignty hey dave how are you doing there

00:50:42.240 i'm good i'm good thank you thank you hello yeah so just getting my rant on on the usual

00:50:48.460 things and such. I don't know if you caught the earlier part of the show, but I spoke with a

00:50:54.060 fellow from the Canadian Nuclear Association and talking about modular generation. And one thing

00:50:59.860 actually a questioner in the comment scroll brought up was nuclear submarines. And I want

00:51:04.180 to get into that a little bit too, as we're going to talk about Arctic sovereignty. I didn't get a

00:51:08.120 chance to ask the fellow from the association on that. But framing that up, you wrote a column

00:51:13.600 recently on because we have a world in turmoil and a bunch of insanity going on and uh we have

00:51:20.400 a big vulnerable point to the north of us called the arctic that we haven't been paying good enough

00:51:24.640 attention to expand on that god we sure do we sure do um compared to what the russians are doing now

00:51:34.240 we have so far to go just to keep up with what they've done uh just quickly the russians have

00:51:44.480 put troops back in their arctic bases they have something like 13 of them

00:51:50.960 they've added nuclear submarines they've added aircraft they've

00:52:00.400 also added early what do you call it area basically aerial denial equipment

00:52:09.120 uh a better much better equipment than we have at norad and uh like uh they're they're getting

00:52:17.500 ready for a fight and okay well essentially because of uh uh the um arctic ice is is uh is

00:52:27.640 melting now i don't want to get into the um debate over uh global warming or anything but let's just

00:52:36.260 It's a fact that the Arctic ice is diminishing, and that is changing the face of the north.

00:52:42.700 Like you worked up north, I worked up north, both of us did.

00:52:47.000 I was up there in the 70s, but now it's changed.

00:52:51.120 It's changing, and the scary thing is Russia has all these new weapons and troops in place in the Arctic. 0.51

00:53:04.200 And they're getting ready. When the ice clears, they're going to be claiming perhaps some of our sovereignty. I don't know. But it's a scary situation.

00:53:19.080 And you have China, which is also claiming to be an Arctic, what was it, an Arctic, a near Arctic state.

00:53:29.180 And, of course, they are, you know, being pushed into the Russian circle with the way things are going. 0.80

00:53:41.660 So that doesn't bode well.

00:53:43.680 And that's not even talking about what we're doing.

00:53:46.400 that's just talking about what they're doing and that is and and we finally woken up because of

00:53:52.140 ukraine that's the good news yeah well people forget that you know the the geographic reality

00:54:00.400 and with what we have now i mean we look at the globes we look at maps of course we always look

00:54:05.160 at that horizontal plane and forget that actually our neighbor straight north of us technically the

00:54:10.780 next one is russia and uh when i remember flying to helsinki i went from montreal and we didn't go

00:54:16.320 across the Atlantic to get straight over to it.

00:54:19.000 We actually went over the ice cap in order to land down there.

00:54:23.640 This is closer than people would think.

00:54:27.180 And if the amount of resources still in the Arctic,

00:54:30.300 I mean, that's the last frontier for a great deal of resources.

00:54:33.620 As you said, it's not just Russia, it's China and even the United States

00:54:36.980 we've got to be concerned about.

00:54:38.840 They're all playing around under that ice cap and we can't even get to it.

00:54:42.340 Absolutely.

00:54:42.700 I mean, in 2007, Russia had two submarines that went down two and a half miles under the North Pole and planted a Russian flag under the North Pole to make a statement.

00:54:58.160 And that, you know, that and that was a long time ago.

00:55:00.900 That's not even, you know, we're not talking now.

00:55:04.760 But basically, the Russians believe, well, we all believe that there are incredible resources under the Arctic, in the Arctic, especially oil reserves.

00:55:15.740 The Russians said decades, possibly a century or more of oil reserves in the Arctic.

00:55:24.700 And that's going to become more important.

00:55:28.040 I mean, we don't know how the current situation is going to play out, but Russia is under pressure.

00:55:33.760 to develop those resources because they're going to need that they're going to need that their

00:55:38.480 economies right now is in shambles who knows what it'll be in five or ten years but they need that

00:55:45.680 and all it will take all it will take is one small altercation and we'll be back to square

00:55:54.160 one with the russians in the arctic and if putin is still there i believe he wants to stay until

00:56:01.120 So I'm not sure if I have this right, but he wants to stay until 2035.

00:56:07.940 I'm not sure if somebody can fact check me on that, but I believe he wants to stick around.

00:56:13.340 And if he's sticking around, man, we have our work cut out and we haven't done anything.

00:56:20.780 Trudeau hasn't done anything.

00:56:21.880 If not for Prime Minister Harper, who ordered the DeWolf patrol ships to be built, we've got one, we're going to build more.

00:56:35.140 Thank God that he did that, even though they are lightly armored and they're really not icebreakers.

00:56:41.740 I mean, Russia has 40 icebreakers, including 12 nuclear-powered icebreakers.

00:56:47.960 We've got 12 of various types, but we have nothing to match.

00:56:55.840 We have nothing, and our surveillance of the north is just ridiculous.

00:57:02.020 I mean, last summer, a Coast Guard cutter was in the Arctic Ocean and saw Russian and Chinese ships doing maneuvers in the Arctic Ocean, and nobody knew.

00:57:17.960 for god's sake where is where are our patrol planes where are the american patrol planes for

00:57:24.460 god's sake this is a wide open area it's one quarter the size of canada one quarter of our

00:57:31.060 country and we've got 1500 troops guarding it 1500 yeah unbelievable and uh and of those troops

00:57:39.700 i believe i don't know if that's counted among them but is the rangers but that's just been a

00:57:42.880 program going on with a lot of indigenous folks up there and they do some good work keeping an eye

00:57:46.880 on things but they've got old ross rifles i believe and in snowmobiles i mean that you know

00:57:51.760 at best they could spot something and report it but it's not a defense force they're at most

00:57:57.120 monitoring yes exactly um i mean we definitely the i should not uh just to get on the positive

00:58:05.040 side of things i don't want to be all negative but things are changing and uh um yesterday i

00:58:11.680 I listened to the Senate Committee on Arctic security, and it was very fascinating, a lot of interesting things going on.

00:58:20.680 Our minister, Anand, is actually coming, is meeting with the Arctic Council, which is all the countries in the north.

00:58:29.760 And we are close to, she is close to making some statements about future investment, which we desperately need in that area.

00:58:40.200 we've expanded the runway in Inuvik. I sure hope we get to make a decision on these new jet

00:58:51.520 fighters. Right now we're using old Australian secondhand fighters to keep us going. We definitely

00:58:58.100 need a decision whether they're going to buy the F-35s or not. We need that now. But I'll tell you

00:59:04.100 one thing one senator i can't remember his name yesterday but he said to the minister

00:59:12.660 dnd national defense he said look how much money is it going to take us to catch up to the russians

00:59:21.780 just to catch up to them we're not you know because they're so far ahead of us

00:59:27.940 how much is it going to cost and how long is it going to take and nobody could answer that question

00:59:35.300 they had a brigadier general they had the head of intelligence for the canadian army and the

00:59:40.260 armed forces boss and uh this dnd guy and all these officials who are probably pulling down

00:59:47.860 huge salaries you know way more than you and i uh my friend and and uh let me tell you they couldn't

00:59:57.940 come up with an answer they couldn't the jet fighters maybe 2025 26 the ships maybe 2025

01:00:06.260 in other words right now we are just we are behind the eight ball and we have to act fast

01:00:12.980 and we can't just count on our american friends all the time for god's sake the americans now

01:00:18.660 are taking notice also to to mention this week and next this last week this week and next week

01:00:26.260 major exercises going on up north with the u.s navy with the canadian army with all the

01:00:32.580 nato countries with the united kingdom even even a a british aircraft carriers involved

01:00:39.140 all over the arctic over the last week and going into this week huge uh uh exercises going on

01:00:48.380 including ours was noble defender it's called noble defender so at finally finally we have

01:00:57.980 woken up to protect our northern sovereignty and i i hope to god that we follow up on these

01:01:05.240 announcements that the Defense Minister Anand makes.

01:01:13.780 Yeah, and I mean, there's some questions, you know, people who haven't been there maybe don't

01:01:17.720 quite understand just how rough and nasty the Arctic is. King Dupe was asking, you know,

01:01:22.100 why do we need, I think it was a bit of sarcasm, why do we need icebreakers if it's melting so

01:01:25.200 much? Well, you know, to expand on that, and Don brought it up too, the Northwest Passage has been

01:01:29.940 opening up more and more. I mean, we don't want to get into the discussion of why, maybe it's a

01:01:33.500 cyclical thing, maybe it's global warming, whatever. But the reality is it is opening up

01:01:36.860 more and more, but it is seasonal. I mean, you go north of Inuvik in January and that ocean is

01:01:41.680 frozen solid. And it's just that it's open for longer periods of time. And you can get farther

01:01:47.200 into the higher Arctic with these icebreakers and just getting, because our problem is access. I

01:01:53.060 mean, aside from the military and things, it's like the old trope, you know, possession is nine

01:01:57.280 tenths of the law. Well, if we ever came into a dispute with any country, whether it's the Americans,

01:02:00.400 the chinese india for that matter if they put up a presence in the arctic their case before the world

01:02:06.320 court in the u.n they're gonna say well you guys don't even go there you don't develop it you can't

01:02:10.320 access it how can you claim it so we've got to make a presence up there or we won't even have

01:02:15.280 a moral case to defend it if somebody comes along and just says we're taking it exactly and i i i

01:02:21.360 couldn't have said that better uh you just hit the nail on the head uh the you know the expression

01:02:27.600 use it or lose it and that's what it comes down to and it's time we woke up and and and include in

01:02:37.300 uh that you know this is a big bad world out there and uh sunny ways sunny ways are nice

01:02:44.480 uh but and you know we want to be green and we want to develop the north and bring them

01:02:50.620 power more power but we want to do it with green methods and so on and so forth but i mean if we

01:02:56.280 don't get up there and and do something and do it soon we are in big trouble and the fact is they

01:03:03.600 couldn't answer that question when are you going to catch up to the russians when and i think as

01:03:10.960 usual we're going to have to count on the americans to bail us out i mean the americans at least are

01:03:16.740 waking up to that fact and um and i think we're going to see a greater presence and as you said

01:03:23.020 activity in the north like fighting in the north as you know it's all about number one is survival

01:03:31.240 number one is just surviving the weather and and knowing how to survive knowing how to build

01:03:37.280 and and all those skills are are so important to our troops and I'll say something interesting

01:03:43.220 about the Americans with something they're doing and I heard an American general talk about this

01:03:48.240 And he said, as far as Alaska goes in the Arctic Circle, we want we want troops up there who want to be up there.

01:04:00.300 Troops, young troops, young guys who want to be in Alaska.

01:04:04.060 We don't want to just be sending troops in and forcing them to live in minus 30 weather.

01:04:10.840 We want guys up there who want to be up there. And I thought that's brilliant.

01:04:15.060 That's absolutely brilliant. At least they're thinking, at least they're thinking about the future and what's coming down the line. And again, we always have to rely on our American allies. I don't know why, but and we just have not been doing and even worse.

01:04:35.280 OK, we imagine. OK, imagine this week. And I was just telling you that that all these operations, all these exercises are going on. Right.

01:04:46.380 can you believe that justin trudeau wanted to invite the people's liberation army to take part

01:04:57.960 in our exercises our arctic exercises where they would learn our arctic military secrets

01:05:05.600 and when the pentagon found out about this they said what the hell are you doing like what the

01:05:12.720 how are you doing? You can't invite the PLA to our Arctic exercises. This is what the PMO's office

01:05:19.340 wanted. And of course, the Canadian military said, okay, okay, we'll shut it down. We'll shut it

01:05:26.320 down. And apparently when the PMO's office found out about this, they went ballistic. How dare you

01:05:33.280 you know make this decision without uh uh you know having us involved this is how

01:05:41.680 this was the situation and it's just totally embarrassing completely embarrassing we went from

01:05:47.520 that imagine to now we're all concerned and finally again i'll say it again finally we are

01:05:56.720 waking up finally has there been any discussion at all at looking at purchasing nuclear submarines

01:06:05.040 the icebreakers aside like again for people who don't follow that stuff very closely the thing is

01:06:10.320 the challenge with the ice caps you've got to submerge and you've got to stay down a long long

01:06:14.400 time and a diesel submarine is a combustion engine it needs to carry a lot of oxygen in order to be

01:06:19.920 able to move underwater and stay for extended periods they can't get up there only nuclear subs

01:06:25.040 can manage to stay submerged long enough and that's why we know that the chinese the americans 0.75

01:06:30.400 the russians probably the british they're all messing around under our waters but we've got 1.00

01:06:35.600 absolutely no way to even get there so is it has there even been discussion though of

01:06:40.720 getting that capability this goes i mean this goes back to the agreement

01:06:45.200 well the disagreement between our allies the united states and us where we're both kind of

01:06:52.000 of laying claim to the Northwest Passage. Now, we've sort of apparently signed some sort of

01:06:58.960 agreement where we'll talk about it in future type of thing. But as for the submarines,

01:07:05.980 apparently there's these new batteries. I think Japan has come up with a way of putting new

01:07:11.060 batteries, excuse me, in submarines which can actually last longer under ice. They can actually

01:07:19.920 last longer than ice but again that's not anywhere near what a a nuclear submarine could do but the

01:07:26.720 expenditure i mean we're we're too cheap to buy new fat fighter jets for god's sake where would

01:07:34.160 we find the billions upon billions and billions of dollars uh to buy nuclear subs mind you we

01:07:41.680 wouldn't have to buy that many we would only have they're about a billion each i believe

01:07:47.360 and uh so that's that's quite expensive and with our government who's now signed a deal with the

01:07:54.400 ndp a liberal ndp i i mean these all the social programs and so forth that are going to come at

01:08:02.960 us now i just can't see us i just can't see us um suddenly uh you know uh uh spending money on

01:08:12.800 nuclear submarines um we've got these old submarines from the we bought from the brits

01:08:18.880 which they forced on us uh i think that was a mistake but uh anyway it's done and it's in the

01:08:25.840 past um and and yes that definitely gives the russians and the americans but as as far as

01:08:33.200 discussions i don't think so i don't think there's been any discussion on that as far as canada goes

01:08:39.280 but let's listen let's wait over the next few weeks to the what the defense minister says

01:08:44.880 as far as as far as uh what are the new announcements i mean the only thing we've

01:08:51.600 done is sign an agreement last summer with the united states to enhance norad enhance it

01:08:59.040 not rebuild it not bring in new but enhance it and i honestly don't know what the hell that means

01:09:05.280 i really don't and i don't know if it's going to be enough but as that senator questioned them

01:09:10.560 yesterday uh in the senate they did not have an answer for when or how much they didn't have a

01:09:18.160 clue so it's almost like they're it's almost like something out of a comedy show i hate to say it i

01:09:27.280 hate to say that about you know what i mean and and what you said about our troops up north our

01:09:32.080 rangers absolutely let me let me say that they're doing a fantastic job they're doing

01:09:37.680 an incredible job but we need to help them and we need to do more we've got to do more and we better

01:09:44.480 do it now otherwise like you said uh we're going to be left out in the cold uh you know not not to

01:09:51.520 use that uh expression but uh we're gonna if we don't do something now and we've done zippo we've

01:10:00.560 We've got five more ships coming by, what is it, 2026, I think, or 25, and those ships are lightly armed.

01:10:12.240 As far as I understand, there's a lack of severe armament on those new patrol ships.

01:10:25.080 So why? Why did we not arm those ships, for God's sake?

01:10:29.440 So we've got to, as the defense minister said yesterday, the game has changed.

01:10:40.860 We're not, no more business as usual.

01:10:44.040 No more business as usual.

01:10:46.400 And we're not going back to the old days.

01:10:50.320 That's gone.

01:10:51.460 So we have to look ahead.

01:10:53.400 We have to look ahead and start doing things differently.

01:10:55.980 yeah well when i think of uh you know canadian senator any uh politicians discussing military

01:11:03.320 things i all i can think of is dr strangelove and i don't uh get uh optimistic feeling about

01:11:08.500 what they're going to conclude unfortunately but we can hope for the best i guess so thanks for

01:11:13.420 coming on to talk to us today dave and that guy columns at westernstandardonline.com and i imagine

01:11:18.420 you've got more coming for us oh yeah absolutely absolutely there's so much happening all over the

01:11:23.220 world it's just it's just amazing the world has changed the world has changed overnight it really

01:11:29.280 has great well thanks and we'll see what happens dave and i'll talk to you again soon okay take

01:11:35.940 care take care great thanks so yeah you know that that's something of a pet issue with me and as we

01:11:41.780 said there could be a lot of discussions as dave said it's like a billion dollars for a nuclear

01:11:45.440 sub and that would just be i guess one among who knows how many are messing around under there

01:11:50.280 perhaps dozens but I think that point of principle and the chances of the government getting it as

01:11:54.640 Dave said too are pretty slim we'll do a dental plan across the country we'll borrow you know our

01:11:58.920 great-grandchildren into oblivion but they wouldn't spend on something like that but as I said you

01:12:03.480 would have that defensibility saying hey we're there we're at least there I am personally not

01:12:10.260 as concerned though it's still a concern I'm not concerned about the Russians coming running over

01:12:14.300 the ice cap and invading through northern Canada and coming south but I am concerned about a lot

01:12:19.420 of disputes coming where Alaska up there, the Americans might say, well, you know, you guys

01:12:23.940 aren't there. We're expanding what we say is our turf up in the Arctic. We're Denmark. We've had

01:12:29.620 that going back and forth on an island way out in the Eastern Arctic where we're playing around,

01:12:33.920 switching flags, and it's a funny little game. But in reality, it's another nation making claim

01:12:39.580 on Arctic land that Canada claims is their own, and we can't get to it. So it's very difficult to

01:12:46.260 claim that we can have it. Maybe the Chinese, as I said, I worked up there for years. The McKinsey 0.93

01:12:50.980 Delta alone, I refer to it as another Alberta is sitting up there. And what's this? Why does Canada

01:13:01.740 need world adulation? What's great about being there, Craig? Well, George, there's resources up

01:13:07.820 there. It's not a matter of just being there, as I was just getting into. There's another Alberta

01:13:12.120 worth of oil and gas. There are thousands, literally thousands of capped oil and gas wells

01:13:17.140 sitting up there. We've been doing exploration and drilling up there since the 60s. And we've

01:13:21.120 taken a bloody drop out of it because we haven't even got a bloody pipeline coming through the

01:13:26.420 Mackenzie Delta. And you're saying, do you think any of these minerals would be mine? Well,

01:13:29.440 should we just give up? Let it go? We're not going to get around to it? Hey, take it away.

01:13:32.880 Take it away. It's never going to happen. That's stupid. So no, we can defend this thing.

01:13:37.860 get up there. I don't see, I mean, we're never going to be a large military power. There's

01:13:42.440 never going to be enough expenditure where people are going to say, boy, you know, countries can say

01:13:45.560 we're not going to mess around with Canada's Arctic sovereignty because, you know, their

01:13:50.240 military would slap us silly. No, you know, we're a smaller country. We're not a military power.

01:13:55.700 But part of what I see, as always with a lot of things, private enterprise is where we can have

01:14:02.940 a lot of solutions. When I was talking to Sheree the other day on the interview,

01:14:07.860 As I saw in the Arctic, we actually had government scientists borrowing space in our oil field camps up there in the Arctic because they didn't have the means and budget to get up there.

01:14:16.420 So we, out of goodwill, lent them the room to come in there and study seals and things out on the ocean.

01:14:22.240 But if there's an incentive, if we would just let our private industry get up there, let them develop these things.

01:14:28.400 There are people living in Inuvik and Tuck, all of those Arctic communities out there that would love to have some good, productive resources to develop for themselves, for their kids to live.

01:14:39.840 We've just got to get it rolling.

01:14:41.100 We've got to get out of our own way.

01:14:43.500 And as private enterprise moves up and develops those resources, then we've got a much stronger claim of saying, yes, we are there.

01:14:49.880 You know, it doesn't have to be a big military presence, but we're saying we have staked our claim here.

01:14:54.420 We're developing it.

01:14:55.320 It is ours.

01:14:56.280 Do not take it.

01:14:57.220 because right now if China came in and roped off a chunk and said it's ours how could we claim

01:15:04.540 otherwise we haven't even been there we can't get there we don't have a nuclear sub we don't have

01:15:08.780 nuclear powered icebreakers our helicopters as somebody pointed out are unfortunately terribly

01:15:13.780 prone to falling out of the sky so we're not going to have a very good claim for it and we're letting

01:15:18.580 it go right now and it's very dangerous and and not just uh oil and gas though there is loads of

01:15:24.680 up there. But yes, there are a lot of minerals that can be mined and a lot of things we can be

01:15:28.880 doing up there. And as we get more forms of, again, whether people agree or disagree, that

01:15:33.640 modular nuclear power, things like that, we could have more independent communities up there with a

01:15:39.480 better cost of living. It's funny, one of the things Dave mentioned was the Americans talking

01:15:44.240 about bringing people up who want to work in Alaska as opposed to the ones just doing a shift.

01:15:48.720 And that's fair enough. It takes a certain kind of person to love the Arctic. I mean, I did four

01:15:54.300 winters up there. And I didn't mind it. It's one of those, you know, a nice place to work,

01:16:00.360 but I wouldn't want to live there. It's just not for me. There's only so much of it. I'd love to

01:16:03.860 see it in summer once on a vacation point of view, not a working point of view. It was always winter

01:16:08.340 when I was there. But there are some people who dearly love it. There was a guy I worked with

01:16:12.040 named George Rankin, and he just, he couldn't get enough of the Arctic when he'd work with us all

01:16:15.860 winter on oil exploration. And then he would work on dew line site remediation and clean up all

01:16:20.500 summer. I mean, he just thrived on it up there. So he was a fantastic person to work with in the

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01:18:25.240 We'll see.

01:18:25.940 Probably not.

01:18:27.320 We got Finance Minister Christia Freeland.

01:18:29.620 This is going back to the theme I was on before I brought Dave on.

01:18:31.820 Back to media.

01:18:32.880 So this is another thing.

01:18:34.400 So the Bank of Canada disclosure of media enemies list was an isolated occurrence.

01:18:39.380 You know, she's kind of dismissed.

01:18:40.100 Ah, just an isolated occurrence.

01:18:41.520 You understand how serious it is?

01:18:44.560 Well, I'm sure Freeland doesn't understand how serious it is.

01:18:46.980 I mean, she's only a little bit brighter than Trudeau, and that's a very low bar.

01:18:51.200 But, you know, as a side note, think of Trudeau's cabinet.

01:18:54.060 People like Freeland, people like Catherine McKenna, Seamus and Reagan.

01:19:00.400 This guy surrounds himself.

01:19:03.340 Quit.

01:19:04.680 That's the unfortunate consequence of having a prime minister who really, come on, let's face it,

01:19:09.520 he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

01:19:10.940 He can regurgitate speeches, but when he tries to think on his feet, we can see as he trips over his tongue and delivers word salad, this man just doesn't have it all firing there.

01:19:21.540 If it wasn't for the family name, he would not be at the front of this country.

01:19:25.320 But he's got these ministers he's surrounded himself with who aren't even much better.

01:19:28.820 At least, you know, if we could have a hammerhead as a prime minister, if he at least had a strong cabinet full of intellectuals, we could perhaps be functioning well.

01:19:36.240 But no, no, we don't.

01:19:37.740 So either way, Freeland saying it was just an isolated occurrence, that the Bank of Canada had a blacklist of media that, and again, the Bank of Canada, that's a government institution, essentially.

01:19:51.620 The Black Locks recorded a bank manager saying authorities would not be allowing Black Locks to ask questions.

01:19:56.320 So Black Locks wasn't allowed questions while they were supposed to give preferential treatment to Bloomberg News.

01:20:01.520 Government institutions picking and choosing who they're even going to give information to.

01:20:07.240 This is a big, big problem. This really reflects that giant rot that's in our government, that

01:20:13.100 hatred they have of disclosure, that hatred they have of critique, of having media outlets daring

01:20:19.240 to break the government line, to go into areas that they don't want to hear about. And they're

01:20:25.780 always pushing back. We got C10. Now we got C11. They want to control the media. This is a scary,

01:20:30.860 scary area. And to hear Freeland sort of dismiss it and just say, I was just an isolated incident,

01:20:35.680 That's not a minor thing. Every country that has a constitution that protects free rights will

01:20:40.580 always address free press and why it is so important, because no authoritarian regime

01:20:47.820 wants a free press. That undercuts them. That makes them accountable to the people. That's why

01:20:52.660 Pravda was run by Russia. That's why every authoritarian regime has a state broadcaster,

01:20:58.340 as do we with the CBC. Though they haven't made it a full monopoly yet, they're certainly trying

01:21:02.860 for it, especially if they shut out independent media outlets. And this was just a case of a guy

01:21:08.640 not even knowing that his mic was hot. It's something we learn around here. Watch when your

01:21:13.000 mic is hot. And he explained that certain media were blacklisted from asking questions. This is

01:21:18.960 Bader Schur, I think his name is, with the Bank of Canada. And they preferably give coverage to

01:21:27.120 Bloomberg News. If you've got preferential news going out, you obviously are not getting

01:21:32.400 balanced news, which is very problematic. Let's see here. We get a little farther.

01:21:39.040 Oh yes, the UCP looks like they're going to be scrapping. That got leaked recently. Their

01:21:42.920 plan to change how traffic tickets are processed. They're going to get rid of that crazed plan of

01:21:50.020 getting rid of traffic court. So some realism seems to be perhaps sinking in on this party

01:21:56.260 that's been embattled by shooting themselves in their feet very regularly, unfortunately.

01:22:01.200 and one of the big ones recently was this bizarre plan to take away your ability to defend yourself

01:22:06.940 on traffic violations. I mean, I understand the courts take up a lot of time, but you know,

01:22:12.920 freedom is expensive sometimes. And hey, let's not pretend that every traffic violation you're

01:22:18.360 guilty in. I think I'm guilty in 99% of the tickets I've gotten, but it's important that

01:22:22.640 you have the ability to challenge that. And again, it's those individual rights they look at as

01:22:27.900 something as if it's a convenience or a privilege or something to be easily dismissed. It's not.

01:22:33.620 And the UCP burned on that, and it sounds like they're backing off on it, thankfully. I mean,

01:22:38.420 it was already supposed to be imposed a while ago, and they sort of put the brakes on it,

01:22:42.400 and now it's going all together, which is good. Of course, a lot of that's tied into,

01:22:47.860 well, we've got the UCP battles going on in Red Deer. So we got that news. It sounds like they're

01:22:53.540 going to be spreading it out, perhaps, over three days in three different cities. I mean,

01:22:57.220 There might be as many as 15,000 people voting in this.

01:22:59.620 This is amazing.

01:23:00.620 We've never seen anything quite like it.

01:23:02.080 At $100 a pop, or some people paying even more,

01:23:05.120 because it'll get past the deadline,

01:23:07.080 to cast their ballot one way or another

01:23:09.220 on whether or not Jason Kenney should stay on as a leader.

01:23:13.560 Again, I was optimistic about Kenney.

01:23:15.660 I'm not thrilled seeing him get pushed out,

01:23:18.100 but I think he's perhaps at a point it's that bad.

01:23:21.440 Just step aside for the sake of everything.

01:23:23.200 But obviously he's not going to at this point.

01:23:24.440 We're going to have to go through the whole thing.

01:23:25.720 But now, if they change the voting rules, well, you want mistrust to really start firing up.

01:23:33.000 I mean, but they're in a rock and a hard place.

01:23:35.280 And the UCP seems to love putting themselves in a rock and a hard place.

01:23:39.820 Because it's going to be a gong show if you try to have, if you stick to the original rules. 0.75

01:23:45.820 The original rules are six hours of voting time in Red Deer at one hotel.

01:23:50.900 Think of having 15,000 people come and go and somehow cast a ballot and get it in a location in one day, in six hours.

01:24:00.520 It's not going to happen.

01:24:02.020 It'll be insane.

01:24:03.140 And people will go nuts.

01:24:04.080 It might turn into riots for all I know.

01:24:06.200 But then if you start spreading it around to different areas in different days, well, then people start wondering, well, what's your motivation?

01:24:11.060 As has been pointed out by some, Rick Bell really tied into that today.

01:24:15.700 Jason Kinney is very strong with a lot of the immigrant communities.

01:24:18.520 I mean, when he was the immigration minister and others, he connected very well.

01:24:22.200 That's what I liked about him a lot.

01:24:23.620 He'd get on the ground with new Canadians all the time, and he was a very effective minister that way.

01:24:29.420 But now, of course, he's utilizing those connections to garner a lot of support and sell those memberships and get people to come out and vote to support him.

01:24:38.600 But a lot of people wouldn't necessarily feel like going all the way up to Red Deer to do it.

01:24:41.620 So now if you have a – because I think they're talking about the voting center being in the Genesis Center, I believe, in northeast Calgary.

01:24:47.120 This isn't confirmed yet, but this is what we're hearing about.

01:24:50.140 And, well, that, of course, facilitates where a lot of those memberships are being sold.

01:24:54.920 The political play we're watching on this is unfortunately getting uglier and dirtier as we go along.

01:25:00.180 It's unfortunate, but it's still fascinating at the same time.

01:25:03.680 I really don't know what the heck's going to happen after April 9th, unless it goes to the 11th.

01:25:09.160 I don't know how they're going to change these dates.

01:25:11.220 What a crazy thing.

01:25:12.540 um so uh yeah we'll be watching that develop side note just on the uh other alternative media

01:25:20.560 mess going on i was just kind of watching the the hordits swirling on ryan jesperson with that

01:25:26.760 other show up at edmonton it's still down for an indeterminate amount of time uh they still

01:25:31.620 aren't on the air i don't know what's going to happen his own followers this is the thing to

01:25:36.440 be learned from this. You know, the woke lunatics, they will turn on you. Don't build your following 0.95

01:25:43.480 on them. There's no loyalty. They don't like you. They will rip you to shreds at the drop of a hat.

01:25:49.280 These people who claim they like Jesperson, they claim they're his following, his supporters,

01:25:53.480 have vanished. It's funny, some very prominent social media personalities on the left who always

01:25:57.720 express their love for Jesperson have vanished on this issue. They've gone to ground. He hasn't

01:26:02.600 tweeted in days and there's others of course were just outright in attack mode on him nobody's

01:26:08.660 supporting him for the minor crime of getting into dispute with his female producer it really is it

01:26:14.980 was that simple he was being at worst a bit belligerent and mansplaining as the term is used

01:26:20.360 I guess I can see why she got upset with it to a degree but to the point where it sounds like they

01:26:25.020 might have dynamited his entire show as far as I could tell it might not even come back

01:26:29.700 because he and you see these mobs if you watch it it's a horrifying thing to watch it's like

01:26:36.640 watching a swarm of army ants tearing apart a victim insect they just they get into more and

01:26:41.700 more of a frenzy or a shark's breeding frenzy even you know if one of their own starts bleeding

01:26:45.640 and they all just get more and more excited and they all start tearing at each other and

01:26:50.520 there's just no end to it and you watch even though Jesperson has put out his groveling

01:26:55.320 apologies on video and on Twitter and everywhere he can. The mob, all that does is feed them. That's

01:27:01.240 more blood in the water. So I don't know how many times the world's got to learn this with cancel

01:27:05.760 culture, guys. Hey, if you do something wrong, we all do at times, apologize. Of course, be genuine.

01:27:11.820 If you genuinely are sorry about it and you genuinely are something wrong. If it's you're

01:27:15.880 apologizing because the mob is demanding it of you, you're just giving yourself to them. You're

01:27:20.920 not going to win. They won't lay off. It won't be enough. It'll never be enough. Jesperson's

01:27:26.280 learning that right now. And we're seeing it with so many other areas. And as I said, I am not,

01:27:32.220 he irks me in a lot of ways, but I'm not celebrating the end, potential end of that show,

01:27:37.820 because I do think the more alternative media we have out there, the better. Even if it's left

01:27:43.160 leaning alternative media, like Ryan Jesperson's show, it's, you know, ideologically way different

01:27:47.380 than mine. It's important for all of us to have as many outlets with as much discussion as possible

01:27:52.600 and the woke mob has destroyed their own outlet with this. They don't seem to realize they've

01:27:57.340 hurt themselves as well as they go after Ryan as they have been. It's just an awful thing to watch

01:28:03.580 but let's watch it, observe it I guess with a morbid curiosity and see what comes out of it.

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