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00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's March 9th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. This is the

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00:00:54.380 our broadcast abilities and reach. So thank you guys for tuning in and supporting us. It's been

00:01:00.940 getting better and better. And we're into the last few days in this little tiny studio we've been in.

00:01:05.880 We're going to be moving on into a bigger one next week. So yeah, bring those comments on. Good to

00:01:11.260 see you, Ashley. And it's always good to see you guys from being across the country and all over

00:01:15.500 the place. This live interactive thing, I really enjoy it. You know, canned, recorded shows. I mean,

00:01:20.500 they certainly have some great content and things, but it's not quite as fun as just going live and

00:01:24.360 taking things where they'll go. Of course, there are places we're already set to go. It is somewhat

00:01:30.600 organized. I don't just freewheel it. And today I've got quite a lineup of guests. So the first

00:01:36.540 guest that'll be coming up in a while is Keith Wilson. He was the lawyer for the Freedom Convoy.

00:01:41.240 You probably saw him in the conferences held with Tamara Leach and some of the others in Ottawa

00:01:44.740 during the protests. He's going to give us some updates on the legal issues going on out there

00:01:50.200 in the landscape following the protests he's also part of the uh uh speaking of the east i see a

00:01:55.660 couple of commenters uh so he was he was with uh peckford on the charter challenge peckford was a

00:02:00.700 premier of newfoundland and he was one of the well he's the only remaining signatory of the

00:02:04.520 charter of rights and he's got a charter challenge going on keith wilson's been representing that

00:02:09.620 and uh yeah i see we got betty from newfoundland and debbie and uh nova scotia so we've got a lot

00:02:15.240 of east coast going on out here for a western show i really appreciate you guys coming out

00:02:18.280 in rick in manitoba either way i'll keep reading those comments and can't mention alia or we'll

00:02:22.860 never get the show done so uh but i keep them coming uh mla todd lowen he's an independent

00:02:28.240 mla in alberta got himself kicked out of the caucus for being critical of premier kenny well

00:02:33.340 he is asked for an investigation into the activities of the premier's office prior to

00:02:38.120 the last ucp agm and it sounds like he had to sit down with the rcmp officers and they're gonna

00:02:42.780 have a look into things doesn't mean things necessarily have happened or haven't but the

00:02:46.520 RCMP are taking it seriously and they're going to dig further and see what's going on. So we'll

00:02:50.940 check in with Todd. That'll be a quick one. And then after that, former Alberta MLA and Cabinet

00:02:55.560 Minister Donna Kennedy-Glans. She's put out a recent book that just got published a couple of

00:02:59.760 days ago called Teaching the Dinosaur to Dance. And I've had Donna on before. We had actually a

00:03:05.500 good conversation. She's a bit more of the red Tory type, you know, compared to a more of a small

00:03:10.280 C conservative or libertarian like myself. But she's good to talk with and she's got a lot of

00:03:14.980 experience and things and it's worth discussing issues with her and her book sounds very interesting

00:03:19.920 so it'll be a good chat as well. So let's start with what's got me triggered today and that is

00:03:25.340 energy security particularly in Canada and North America. Drill baby drill. That was a line from

00:03:32.460 the Republican National Convention in the USA in 2008. The intent was to encourage domestic energy

00:03:37.340 production and security. Unfortunately oil prices crashed shortly later and then the deep water

00:03:43.180 her rise in oil spill pretty much brought the use of that term to an end. It's time though to bring

00:03:48.160 that term back and mean it this time. World events have exposed just how ridiculously dependent

00:03:53.060 North America is upon foreign sources of oil and gas. I mean, while inflation was already on the

00:03:58.240 rise due to governments at all levels spending at insane rates in response to the COVID-19 pandemic,

00:04:03.700 the spike in oil and gas prices are going to send the cost of living just outright spiraling.

00:04:08.300 This is really going to hurt some people. The word recession is even being bandied about again. We

00:04:12.540 haven't heard that in a while and that's due to the energy price spikes and yet at the same time

00:04:16.060 we're sitting on some of the most abundant oil and gas deposits on earth. But that's because the oil

00:04:20.780 and gas don't do us a damn bit of good unless we get it out of the ground and get it out to markets. 0.93

00:04:25.660 North America has been idiotically shutting in conventional energy supplies for over a decade 0.73

00:04:30.540 now under the delusional impression that some new green sources would soon be filling the void. 0.67

00:04:36.860 Billions of dollars have been poured into wind and solar projects for years yet they've only

00:04:40.780 still provide a tiny fraction of our energy needs. We've been told for years that electric vehicles

00:04:45.420 are going to be replacing combustion engines right away, but again, they still only make up

00:04:49.980 a tiny niche portion of the vehicles on the road. We're as dependent on oil, gas, and yes, even coal

00:04:55.740 now as much as we've ever been, and the government has to take their bloody ideological blinders off

00:05:00.860 and admit it. We should have had a pipeline from the massive McKenzie Delta oil and gas reserves

00:05:06.540 the arctic decades ago our expanded export capacity to the west coast should have been

00:05:11.420 done years ago through the northern gateway pipeline and the trans mountain expansion

00:05:16.540 energy east should be near completion by now and the keystone xl should be already in operation

00:05:21.900 all of these lines were either outright shut down by the government or regulated to death which is

00:05:26.300 a cowardly way of achieving the same end tankers were banned on the west coast

00:05:31.020 while eastern canada continues to slurp oil from foreign tankers coming up the st lawrence river

00:05:35.420 every day. On the liquid natural gas front, we should have multiple export facilities. The

00:05:40.460 world's hungry for it. It's a clean source and we have plenty of it. Instead, we've managed to kill

00:05:45.220 every proposed LNG facility, except for one, and that one's plagued by delays due to the regulatory

00:05:51.320 morass that Canada's created. Canada's pipelines right now are full. It doesn't matter how much 0.86

00:05:56.340 the world needs our products, we can't get our oil and gas out to them. We won't be able to create

00:06:00.920 new infrastructure fast enough to address the current energy crisis. We have to understand

00:06:05.880 accept that there's going to be future ones, especially if we don't develop our bloody local

00:06:09.840 resources. Put away the unicorn dreams and accept that we're going to be needing oil and gas for

00:06:14.680 decades to come. Every energy analyst worth their salt has been saying that for a long time. We

00:06:20.020 just aren't transitioning out as fast as people hope. Wishes and dreams don't change fiscal and

00:06:24.740 energy realities. Trudeau is currently prancing around Europe, desperately trying to be an

00:06:29.380 international player. As usual, he's being greeted with mockery and derision from foreign leaders.

00:06:34.180 He's too shallow and too weak to be at the table during wartime talks among nations.

00:06:38.260 It's embarrassing seeing foreign press from the Netherlands and England questioning how 1.00

00:06:42.020 a nation such as Canada has managed to keep such an imbecile in charge for so long. 0.99

00:06:46.660 Trudeau should let his Foreign Affairs Department deal with how Canada 0.99

00:06:49.540 may take part and hopefully make a productive contribution towards the resolution in the

00:06:53.620 Ukraine-Russia conflict. Our Prime Minister is simply way out of his depth over there.

00:06:57.780 Then Trudeau should actually turn his eyes towards his own country and seek ways to ease the economic

00:07:02.580 pain he's inflicting upon his own citizens. Alting the pending carbon tax hike on Canadians that's

00:07:07.780 coming on April 1st would be a good start. A realistic approach to developing energy security

00:07:12.740 in general would be next. I know the chances of Trudeau doing such things are slim, but we have

00:07:17.540 to try pressuring him now. And then we got President Biden, he's sniveling and groveling

00:07:21.620 to Venezuela and Saudi Arabia as he's begging for more oil. Trudeau should be front and center,

00:07:26.180 promoting the revitalization of the Keystone XL pipeline right now, but he's been silent.

00:07:30.920 Biden waxed on yesterday about how electric cars will solve the cost of living prices.

00:07:36.000 It's hard to tell who's more mentally incoherent between him and Trudeau. Will a single parent

00:07:41.540 working in a hospitality job go out and buy an $80,000 Tesla to get to work? Will there really

00:07:46.560 be a savings in powering it as the electricity costs spike? Will electric cars help heat homes

00:07:51.920 in the winter or cool them in Texas in the summer? It's ridiculous. Biden and Trudeau live in 0.93

00:07:57.020 delusional worlds, completely disconnected from reality. Talk about privilege. Trudeau was raised

00:08:01.880 into it and Biden's been in government so long he's forgotten what it even looks like in the

00:08:06.060 real and private world. We'll likely never be able to add reason to those guys at this point,

00:08:11.800 but perhaps some of their senior advisors can be reached, along with some cabinet members.

00:08:15.560 Biden's never going to be an energy expert and Trudeau's never going to be a respected foreign

00:08:19.020 statesman. We're all paying for the delusions of these leaders right now. We need to be pulling

00:08:24.020 back the regulations and starting to increase our domestic energy capacity right now. We don't need

00:08:29.500 to subsidize energy companies in order to do that. The government just needs to get out of the damn 1.00

00:08:33.240 way and let them do their jobs. Trudeau and Biden aren't leading us into a green new world. There is 0.98

00:08:38.020 no just transition to be seen. The only transition is into poverty and suffering. As we sit upon

00:08:43.060 resources, we aren't allowed to develop. So let's get drilling, damn it. It's about time. 0.99

00:08:47.640 All right. So let's check in with our senior reporter, Melanie Rizdin, and talk about some

00:08:55.200 of the other stories that are going on outside there in that big wide world. Hey, Melanie, how

00:09:00.420 are you doing? Good, thanks. How are you? I'm pretty good, actually. You know, as much as I

00:09:05.100 rant and get worked up, I enjoy that. Yeah, well, we know, we know that. Yes, you get to hear it

00:09:09.500 offline too, yeah. We do. Yeah, we've got a lot on the website this morning already. Ontario looking

00:09:16.520 to drop mask mandates as of March 21st. Their proof of vaccination was actually lifted on

00:09:24.420 March 1st. Not sure if you heard this, but Premier Jason Kenney is going to get a radio talk show

00:09:32.020 every Saturday. He is going to be on the air on Sixter Chet in Edmonton and 770 in Calgary.

00:09:39.760 and he'll be on the air for it sounds like about an hour every Saturday and we are just in the

00:09:46.740 process of working to see who's going to be paying for that or whether who knows maybe he'll be making

00:09:51.700 a radio announcer salary for this just looking into that liberals are also happy with mainstream

00:10:01.920 media coverage of the freedom convoy in fact they're so happy that they are looking to dole

00:10:07.620 out more bailout money to mainstream media. So we've got that on the website. The British press

00:10:13.540 absolutely roasting Justin Trudeau over on his trip to Europe as we speak. So far he's seen

00:10:22.580 some fairly negative press, a lot of hecklers and protesters across the pond. So we've got that and

00:10:30.320 quite a few videos to watch on that one as well. There's some interesting comments in that one

00:10:37.380 for sure. Sad story of nearly 100,000 orphans being evacuated from Ukrainian orphanages,

00:10:47.060 many of them moving into neighboring Poland and Hungary, so we've got that up as well.

00:10:53.220 Canadian Taxi Association wants cabbies added to a frontline or added as frontline workers in

00:11:00.580 a pandemic remembrance bill. Now, this bill, if passed, will have Canadians observing sort

00:11:06.500 of a national tribute to those who died during the pandemic and that looks like they're aiming for a

00:11:12.660 March 11th for that day. Not sure if you heard this either, every CBC staffer got a bodyguard

00:11:21.220 for the coverage of the convoy to Ottawa, so that's well spent taxpayer dollars. An interview

00:11:31.540 with two Calgary lawyers discussing lingering mask mandate in Alberta courts, as well as

00:11:38.180 sort of the repercussions that are coming from vaccine passports that are remaining in private

00:11:44.420 sector employers in Alberta. So some information there. I know there are still many people who are

00:11:51.220 unable to work at this point. So definitely worth a watch there. And some stuff we're working on

00:11:57.380 right now this might be of interest a question for you corey if you lived in the city of calgary

00:12:03.540 would you have hens in your backyard i know you've got them where you are but we'd have them if you

00:12:09.060 were in the city uh probably not you know it's easier when you have a bigger acreage and you're

00:12:15.300 able to maintain that i know that question comes up uh periodically now and then and uh yeah we're

00:12:20.340 in prittis you know right on the edge of the city but i've got the space to keep those those birds

00:12:24.180 going but uh you know it's nice to have them a little distant from your house because i mean

00:12:29.300 we keep the the coop clean and keep maintaining it but it can get a little stinky and uh

00:12:34.100 have its challenges so uh yeah i don't know if i'd have it in the city well the city has approved it

00:12:39.460 now for uh calgarians so there you go uh also working on a story here uh patrick brown who is

00:12:47.380 the current mayor of brampton ontario he is expected to announce whether he will or will

00:12:52.580 not be joining in on the conservative leadership race and Just Out CTV has admitted that it printed

00:13:00.900 factually incorrect information around a sexual scandal that came up with Patrick Brown back in

00:13:08.180 2018 so we'll have the details of that on our website coming up very soon. Great lots to cover

00:13:14.980 and lots going on well thank you for the update and we'll look forward to more news stories as

00:13:19.140 they break. I'll keep dwelling on that chicken question. Of course. Thanks, Corey. Great. Thanks,

00:13:23.940 Melanie. Yeah, you know, as a libertarian, I'm kind of mixed on that. It's funny that chicken

00:13:29.860 issue has gone on for a long time. People remember Paul Hughes. He was an advocate. He ran the

00:13:34.780 community farms in Calgary and things like that for a long time. He was known as the chicken man

00:13:39.260 because he was always pushing hard, actually, to allow for backyard chickens within the city

00:13:42.660 and we would fight about it. And he's actually over in Ukraine right now. The last private

00:13:48.160 message i had with him i talked with him i was seeing if i could get him on the show uh he's

00:13:52.040 also a veteran from the princess patricia light infantry and i i think he he sounded like he

00:13:58.360 wants to take part and help ukrainians fight back i i just hope he's okay over there it's a bigger

00:14:03.280 story actually and i i just don't uh have enough to report on yet but guys like paul i mean he's

00:14:08.780 a military experienced man it's not just a person running the mill person off the ground heading

00:14:13.080 over there how many people from other parts of the world are going into the ukraine to help out like

00:14:17.920 not just going out to, uh, help with refugees or, or, you know, with animals or, or other things

00:14:25.100 that people have been doing, but how many are looking to put their boots on the ground and

00:14:27.760 actually help fight back? I don't know. And it's an interesting development that's happening over

00:14:33.700 there and a dangerous one. I really kind of worry for Paul. I hope he's okay over there. I mean,

00:14:38.860 it's certainly not a safe spot to get into. And, uh, yeah, you know, when it comes to things like

00:14:44.200 that discussion if we're talking about backyard chickens it's a personal responsibility i think

00:14:48.820 you know as i said it can get we keep them on our acreage and they can get a little ripe if you

00:14:52.720 aren't cleaning the coop regularly but they can be fine otherwise but you never know if your

00:14:56.600 neighbor's going to be responsible or not that's part of the challenge is if you have somebody

00:14:59.880 right next door but that can be said if they have dogs as well i mean if they're not picking up after

00:15:03.260 that for uh weeks at a time uh your backyard's not going to very smell very nice with the neighbor's

00:15:07.880 uh scent coming over the fence either there's always things to discuss you know we always love

00:15:12.080 fighting with each other. I wish we could just have more open discourse though, rather than

00:15:15.420 having to always try and get government involved and getting on board with regulating our lives

00:15:20.460 and getting in our faces. You know, sometimes it's a heck of a lot easier to just knock on

00:15:24.540 your neighbor's door and chat with them rather than call bylaw first. And that applies to so

00:15:29.200 many other things in life and in general, but that takes personal responsibility. And a lot

00:15:33.080 of people aren't big on that either. Unfortunately, our next guest I'm going to have up pretty soon.

00:15:38.520 And that's Keith Wilson. I've been looking forward to talking to him for a while. I do

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00:17:54.860 So let's bring him in and start talking about some other legalities.

00:17:59.720 Hello, Mr. Wilson. How are you doing?

00:18:01.660 I'm great, Corey. How are you?

00:18:03.200 Very good. I'm glad we could corner you today. I know you've had a hectic couple of months going on.

00:18:09.060 Yes, it's been the adventure of a lifetime, for sure. 19 days on the ground in Ottawa.

00:18:17.200 Very long days. It would be a couple of movies to tell you all the things that happened and what we were dealing with on the ground.

00:18:25.620 I'm very happy I was there. And then in addition to that, as you know, because the same time I was flying to Ottawa,

00:18:31.540 was scheduled to be on your show to talk about the other charter challenge i'm involved in which

00:18:35.780 is representing a former premier peckford uh and challenging the travel mandates yeah no you've

00:18:43.060 had a lot on the go so maybe i want to clarify because you've just kind of been all over the

00:18:46.340 place are you still then active in representing some of the the convoy organizers or the convoy

00:18:50.660 itself yes uh in fact there's a court application going ahead this afternoon in ontario relating to

00:18:57.300 some of the donated funds. Earlier this week we were focused on getting Tamara Leach out of jail 0.80

00:19:05.460 because remarkably she was jailed for longer than most people would be for serious crimes.

00:19:16.020 It's been hard to believe many of the things that Canadians have had to witness

00:19:21.460 in the past weeks let alone in the past two years.

00:19:25.020 It's been infuriating. I mean, I won't pretend to know Tamara well, but we've had communications 0.97

00:19:30.200 over the years. She's another political minded person in Alberta over a period of time. This

00:19:34.740 is not some dangerous or crazed or unstable person by any means. She was never going to put

00:19:39.800 anybody at any sort of risk. And it was just infuriating to know that she was being incarcerated

00:19:46.440 like that without a chance for bail when so many more dangerous people, unfortunately,

00:19:51.360 get released quite quickly well i mean she i think she's sort of the paradigm average concerned

00:19:59.360 honest canadian you know she saw what's happening to her country she's a mother she's a grandmother

00:20:07.120 and she became involved in the freedom convoy she had this idea that maybe she could generate four

00:20:15.280 to five thousand dollars in donations set up the gofundme never in her wildest dreams did she

00:20:22.480 think it would hit 10 million um and then of course we arrived myself and some other lawyers

00:20:30.240 i'm on contract to the justice center for constitutional freedoms and we arrived on

00:20:35.840 february 2nd um just as gofundme was starting to clamp things down so that was one of the first

00:20:42.720 task we had to deal with on the ground was a deal with GoFundMe. And then on the Friday,

00:20:46.560 they pulled the surprise and decided that it was an improper fundraiser and that they were

00:20:51.520 effectively going to redirect the money to another group. And we can only use our imagination to

00:20:56.720 imagine what group that would have been. And then events just were continuing to transpire from

00:21:03.360 there. So what we're seeing now, I mean, I've characterized it though as a witch hunt. I mean,

00:21:08.240 they're far from finished. They seem to be quite determined, the government and some members to

00:21:12.240 really just chase down and punish anybody who is remotely supportive of this action in the last

00:21:17.680 month. I'm just kind of curious though I understand it's an absolute right for a person to have

00:21:22.720 counsel and an attorney represent them but I mean our rights seem to be sort of fluid things these

00:21:27.760 days. Have you as a lawyer has the JCCF gotten any pressure because you guys have been at least

00:21:33.760 legally supportive of the convoy organizers? Well, it's been uncertain, you know, and

00:21:42.160 there were times when I was on the ground and acting as a liaison with the police,

00:21:47.840 both the city police, the Ottawa city police and the OPP. And especially when the raid started,

00:21:57.120 you know, it wasn't out of the realm of possibility that I was going to find myself

00:22:01.920 arrested just because so many of the rules are out the window right now it's very difficult as

00:22:07.280 a lawyer to give advice because you know i would get the question from the truckers well even the

00:22:12.320 uh all of them who had their bank accounts frozen like think about that what that meant and these

00:22:18.400 you know i've been watching the house of commons committees dealing with this and the level of

00:22:24.080 misinformation or completely inaccurate information is startling uh there was testimony earlier this

00:22:30.400 week that the rcmp had contacted each of these people before they froze their bank accounts that

00:22:37.120 is simply not true these people found out that their bank accounts were frozen by getting phone

00:22:43.200 calls from spouses saying hey i can't pay for the daycare or i just went to pay for the dentist or

00:22:50.080 i can't get groceries or the credit card doesn't work you know um and and think about that these

00:22:57.680 people it just it was we quickly concluded working with the nine that i had that had their bank

00:23:05.360 accounts frozen that they would have been better off in jail the reason they would have been better

00:23:10.160 off is their spouse's paycheck went into that black box they could not pay for anything they

00:23:17.200 couldn't pay for their mortgage they couldn't get fuel they were stuck you know to think that that

00:23:22.960 happened in canada not china not venezuela but canada um is is still still shocking oh it's

00:23:35.920 horrible and yeah i mean people gotta think about that my wife and i have joint accounts things like 0.98

00:23:39.840 that maybe i'd pull a stunt that jane might not agree with and suddenly our accounts frozen well

00:23:43.600 she's getting punished for something she had absolutely nothing to do with i mean again even

00:23:48.320 if it was a sole account we've got some issues here on on why you know my accounts should be

00:23:51.920 frozen, but the blanket punitive approach this government has taken on this has been horrific.

00:23:59.140 Have they started lifting the holds on some of these accounts at least yet?

00:24:03.080 Yeah, they did. Some of them are lifted. The individuals for the most part have been lifted.

00:24:10.500 And if I could, Corey, just to step back, because you can imagine I've had to reflect on

00:24:16.080 What's going on here? Why did this happen? And I honestly think that what happened is the government just cannot, those in power, so the prime minister and those around him, just could not accept the notion that a large number of Canadians fundamentally disagree with what the government's been doing.

00:24:42.160 that a large number of reasonable Canadians of all ethnic backgrounds and all skin colors

00:24:51.200 disagree and are deeply troubled about government overreach to the point where this convoy took on

00:24:59.040 such size and scale and spontaneity and the donations that it bothered Trudeau and others so

00:25:10.400 much that he was prepared to use everything everything in his arsenal jailing people and

00:25:21.360 if you've seen the videos beating sending the goons in to beat people canadians up who are at

00:25:26.860 the protests um seizing and freezing them out of life and the economy through their bank accounts

00:25:34.380 um the the the the notion that canadians would stand up to the government is something that

00:25:42.580 trudeau obviously finds both so repulsive and threatening at the same time that he was prepared

00:25:50.060 to invoke the emergencies act for the first time in its existence and and i really think that's

00:25:56.660 what went on here um and it's deeply troubling because the ability to criticize government the

00:26:01.800 ability to ridicule government is fundamental i advise my clients at one point just start

00:26:07.140 practicing what they do in north korea wake up every morning and say oh dear leader trudeau you

00:26:11.880 are the greatest and cry for him you know maybe he'll have some mercy for you i'm being sarcastic

00:26:17.060 but it's it's serious because there's been no repercussions for the government for doing this

00:26:23.140 what incentive do they have not to do it again what disincentive do they have so

00:26:28.260 there's a journey ahead and the fight's not over and I think more and more Canadians need to

00:26:35.720 ask some serious questions about the conduct of their government and the direction that it's

00:26:40.060 taking the country. Yeah well the concentration of power in the Prime Minister's office I mean

00:26:44.840 to think that and a lot of people I think agree I mean there were Liberal members even who didn't

00:26:49.080 support the bringing in the Emergencies Act and obviously didn't last very long because they

00:26:52.640 realized it wasn't going to withstand very long if they tried to keep it in there

00:26:56.560 But still, one man with, you know, a chip on his shoulder and a minority government could still bring that in and manage to do things like seize people's accounts and press people into labor.

00:27:07.820 I mean, these are the little things people forget, too.

00:27:09.520 That's a scary concept.

00:27:10.460 The government can come out and force you to do labor for them, you know, with pay.

00:27:15.480 But come on, it's insane.

00:27:17.320 I mean, we've got to follow up on this and not let this precedent go.

00:27:21.040 I completely agree.

00:27:22.340 and you know even the I think the reason why they backed off on the emergency act was actually from

00:27:33.060 the banking community the speed and zeal with which the bank seized people's accounts that

00:27:41.680 they didn't do any due diligence and I know that because I have the actual RCMP document that

00:27:47.080 listed all the people and I saw the evidence. It's shocking. The first 12 people whose bank

00:27:56.000 accounts were seized, the evidentiary basis, the link is to CTV's who's who in the freedom

00:28:03.900 convoy movement. Like this RCMP officer didn't even leave his chair to do this investigation.

00:28:11.760 He could have sat there chewing on donuts and drinking coffee and just cutting and pasting. 0.99

00:28:16.420 It was pathetic. In any event, that's all it took for the banks to do to take the most radical action they can take against the customer. And when the deputy prime minister started saying, oh, and we're going to look at going after the donors, which is over 200,000 average Canadians with an average donation amount of $35. 0.97

00:28:40.300 dollars and when the Ottawa acting police chief got all bombastic on camera and started talking

00:28:49.260 about how we're going to thoroughly investigate everyone including the donors and go after them

00:28:54.540 that caused a lot of people to go down to their banks and take money out which created if you

00:29:00.140 research it you'll see there was actually a run on the banks caused people to start opening

00:29:05.820 bank accounts at credit unions because of it they lost their confidence in the chartered banks and

00:29:11.580 caused others more broadly in the investment community i'm told from good sources to say

00:29:17.260 wait a minute what kind of country is this is this a rule of law or banana republic and we

00:29:22.860 know which direction this prime minister has taken us so it wasn't the threat of losing a vote in the

00:29:28.140 senate i'm told it was the pushback from the international finance community and the big banks

00:29:35.820 And realizing that they probably were a little too enthusiastic in going along with the government that actually caused both them to lift the freezes on the personal accounts, as well as to discontinue the Emergencies Act proclamation.

00:29:49.880 So you've got a whole lot of irons in the fire now. I mean, it's great to know Tamara Leach at 1.00

00:29:56.840 least is at home now, you know, to await following through and then trial, I would imagine and things

00:30:02.840 such as that, which could be a long process, but she's still facing some, I mean, they call it

00:30:07.300 counsel to commit mischief, but there could be some very serious penalties as light as the charges

00:30:11.540 sound. She's facing some very possible long jail terms. Well, I don't think she is. And I'm

00:30:19.860 appreciate that that on its face you know you read the criminal code it's like anything you

00:30:23.540 can look at the maximum fine or the maximum penalty and become concerned um the the government

00:30:32.040 and the politicians and um the city officials the police they just never got their head around

00:30:40.520 basic things you know so one of the issues was the injunction against honking horns

00:30:46.100 Tamara Leach has never owned a semi-truck she doesn't own a semi-truck she doesn't have an

00:30:53.980 air horn most of the people listed in some of these legal proceedings don't own trucks

00:31:02.140 there's this sort of narrative that the government created and is acting out on it despite the

00:31:11.340 evidence of what really happened on the ground but what's more concerning for me with respect

00:31:16.700 to the government conduct and the actions they've taken against Tamara is if you if you have have a

00:31:23.460 chance to review the bail conditions it would make Putin envious and I mean that seriously

00:31:29.740 she is not allowed to criticize the government she is not allowed to criticize or speak against

00:31:37.560 covid 19 restrictions or do anything in support of the freedom movement she's not allowed to be

00:31:44.120 on social media she's not allowed to directly or indirectly communicate or support with anybody in

00:31:49.640 those things even putin's strongest critic who's in jail valavi uh this week from jail called on

00:31:59.000 russians to protest in the street tamara can't even say that as a canadian uh uh apparently according 0.99

00:32:06.120 to Trudeau, on Tuesday, Villani assisted the Canadian government in identifying 10 oligarchs

00:32:12.400 that could be added to the sanctions list. Tamara can't do that in Canada. It's remarkable 1.00

00:32:18.000 that in Canada, our government is so afraid of Tamara that they have placed this unprecedented

00:32:28.520 gag order on her. And just so we're clear, she's not home yet. The Crown prosecutor during one of

00:32:35.720 bail hearing said well why are you driving home why don't you fly commercial and i'm like are you

00:32:43.240 kidding me there's a travel ban because the canadian government won't let her get on a plane 0.99

00:32:50.920 so it's been you know it's it's been exasperating the nonsense here but it's serious and um

00:33:00.120 those bail conditions are going to be appealed they're outrageous they violate so first her 0.83

00:33:05.880 right to travel and mobility has been violated now her right of association freedom of expression

00:33:11.880 etc is being violated um we've got to keep fighting for our charter it's there for a reason

00:33:20.520 and um but it's a serious time we're in so yeah getting back to the the higher level of things

00:33:27.400 and this happened prior to you going to Ottawa. You'd already gotten involved with Brian Peckford

00:33:31.880 in bringing forth a charter challenge. How is that moving along? I mean, what sort of timelines are

00:33:37.160 we looking at? I mean, the pandemic restrictions and everything may all be over by the time this

00:33:41.160 gets to the courts, but it's still very important that we establish what our rights are and make

00:33:46.600 sure the government can't overreach like this again. Exactly. Interestingly, I can report to

00:33:52.040 you that about an hour ago i wrapped up a hearing before the federal court on that very question

00:33:58.920 we're going to have all our evidence in this week we've got some tremendous experts

00:34:03.240 medical experts dr mccullough dr bridle and others to help us demonstrate that there's

00:34:09.000 no proportionality here that the science now shows that it doesn't this whole idea that somehow by

00:34:16.600 banning canadians from getting on planes and traveling within our country or leaving our

00:34:21.560 country and coming back into it banning canadians that are unvaccinated somehow makes canadians

00:34:27.160 safer is just patent nonsense not supported by any evidence or science and as purely as i think

00:34:33.240 we all know a punitive measure as part of prime minister trudeau's insidious divisions division

00:34:39.480 you know politics by division um so where we're at is over the next few months there'll be the

00:34:46.200 exchange of evidence we're trying to have the case heard this summer but the court's saying

00:34:53.320 they're full and i have to believe that to be true they're experiencing lots of challenge

00:34:57.640 charter challenges right now this is the federal court but we will get it to the court as soon as

00:35:02.680 possible all of the council are committed to that and it won't matter if the travel bans lifted

00:35:09.160 because the court needs to rule on this the court needs to be clear about whether or not

00:35:15.560 our charter rights mean anything and whether at the whim of the federal minister of transport

00:35:22.760 or the federal minister of health or other government officials they can simply decide

00:35:28.760 that for the sake of our safety in their sole discretion that our charter rights can be

00:35:35.880 overridden so the court needs to rule on this and we're going to continue to pursue it to have a

00:35:43.480 ruling regardless of whether at some point uh the prime minister decides to drop his vindictive

00:35:49.280 policy yeah well and it is very just important to establish these things i mean whether people

00:35:55.840 want to face it or not this isn't going to be our last pandemic this isn't going to be the last

00:35:59.760 national emergency of any sort we might encounter and we need to have some pretty clear-cut lines

00:36:04.920 on what citizens rights are going to be in those extraordinary circumstances because uh we didn't

00:36:09.220 properly recognize them this time around i mean section one of the charter in my view was terribly

00:36:13.160 abused uh for the intent of what that was supposed to be about so i appreciate what you have been

00:36:18.040 doing i mean like i said you've got your hands full you and the jccf where can people find more

00:36:22.120 information on what you're doing and help support you to you know keep up these challenges and and

00:36:26.360 you know defending some of those people who have been charged for taking part in the protest sure

00:36:31.720 and uh we could sure use help because uh there's there's several lawyers not just myself i'm very

00:36:38.040 fortunate to have two different teams of lawyers one team on the premier peckford's challenge

00:36:45.080 for the travel mandates as well as another team with the several legal issues that we're dealing

00:36:52.280 with for the freedom convoy the justice center for constitutional freedoms this is what they're

00:36:58.360 about they're about taking on cases to try and ensure that canadians charter rights are respected

00:37:05.400 If you go to their website, the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom's website, you can donate and you can also decide which particular charter or constitutional case you want to support and you can direct your support.

00:37:20.680 And because it's a registered charity, you also can receive a charitable receipt that can help you with tax time.

00:37:26.200 so I'm working at very significantly reduced hourly rates because this is not just important

00:37:34.000 for me it's very important for my family and my children so I'm donating significantly to it and

00:37:41.140 I'm happy to do that and we could certainly use the support so that we can bring the horsepower

00:37:46.800 that we need to run all of these cases right through to the Supreme Court of Canada because

00:37:51.220 that's what we need you know interesting Corey one of the things that the truckers have been

00:37:54.820 calling for is a public inquiry that we need to have a public inquiry into governments provincially

00:38:03.700 and federally handling of covid you know what did they get right and what did they get wrong

00:38:09.300 what are the lessons learned because as you note if it's just the mere notion of a crisis

00:38:16.260 self-declared by government then our rights are nothing and we're not living in a free country

00:38:21.620 So we really need to get to the bottom of what happened so that we can hopefully learn from it

00:38:26.820 and get back to the Canada we once had where rights were respected and government considered

00:38:31.880 itself having limits on how it could interfere with our lives and our families. So we're trying

00:38:38.020 to do important work at the Justice Centre and support is very welcome. Great. Well, yeah,

00:38:44.380 if nothing else, let's hope we learned something from this. So thank you for taking the time to

00:38:49.120 talk with us today and for the work you've been doing so far. I hope we get the chance again to

00:38:53.140 talk soon and maybe start talking about some of those legal victories you'll be having.

00:38:56.800 Yeah, I'm happy to talk to you more now that things are slowing down a little bit and I'm

00:39:00.420 back in Alberta. So thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.

00:39:04.480 All right. Thank you, Mr. Wilson.

00:39:05.880 Thank you, sir.

00:39:07.000 Okay. So that was a very informative and good conversation. There's just so much going on

00:39:11.620 right now. So yeah, JCCF, I think it's .ca, it could be .org, but if you Google

00:39:15.860 justice center for constitutional freedoms you will find their website and you can get there and

00:39:20.120 see what they're doing they got a lot of stuff going on and as as mr wilson said you can pick

00:39:25.200 which one of those you may want to support and it is a registered charity it's somewhere we're

00:39:29.640 still allowed to donate to for now you will be safe in supporting that so i do want to bring in

00:39:34.260 now uh todd lowen he's he's in the lobby there and it's quite a swivel here we'll talk some more a

00:39:39.740 little later in the show about some things but uh we got to get todd in here while we can because

00:39:44.820 he's kind of stirred up a hornet's nest up in Edmonton there. He's the independent MLA for up

00:39:49.140 in the Valley View area and he's raised some questions about some of the behavior of the

00:39:54.500 Premier's office. So let's talk to Todd and see what he's done here. Hey Todd, good to see you.

00:39:59.700 Todd Good to see you too. How are you doing?

00:40:01.300 Todd Very good. You guys keep us with lots of subject matter to keep going on about down here,

00:40:07.540 even if perhaps your efficiency of government as a whole might be a little questionable.

00:40:11.780 Todd I hear you.

00:40:14.820 So just to put it in a nutshell, I guess during the last AGM for the UCP, I mean, there were some contentious things.

00:40:22.760 There were some party constitutional changes being proposed, some things about leadership reviews and, of course, electing the executive members of it.

00:40:30.800 And there's a lot of internal push and pull going on within the UCP right now.

00:40:35.000 It sounds like perhaps the premier's office kind of got may have gotten inappropriately involved in trying to swing some of the votes there.

00:40:43.000 Yeah, what happened is, of course, is the last November when the AGM was going on, leading up to it, we seen a story from Don Braid in the Calgary Herald where it was mentioned that he'd received an email that a business leader had received a call from somebody, a senior staff in the Premier's office and asking that business to be able to bring people to the AGM to help support Jason Kenney and help get the board that he wants on.

00:41:11.620 and those sorts of things so you know that was uh kind of alarming enough but the the email went on

00:41:17.780 to say that they were hoping that this business was hoping that they could maybe leverage this

00:41:22.180 action into you know some benefit to the company down the road and of course there's nothing wrong

00:41:26.900 with like i guess with the company uh you know having that phone call come to them but but it's

00:41:32.980 definitely an issue when somebody from the premier's office contacts a company and basically

00:41:38.100 asks a favor. And being in a position of power, somebody in the Premier's office, that leads to

00:41:45.620 the allegations of influence peddling, which of course is a serious crime.

00:41:50.840 Yeah, we've definitely got some strong checks and balances against that. So

00:41:54.380 you put a formal letter forward to the RCMP to have them have a look at it, and they came in to

00:41:59.640 sit down and talk with you the other day? Yeah, no, they wanted to interview with me. I give them

00:42:05.080 a 45 minute interview at the RCMP station here in Edmonton. And the serious crimes division is

00:42:13.120 who is looking into this right now. And so I was able to give them as much information as I had.

00:42:18.180 And we'll see where it goes from there. I hope that the RCMP does investigate this. And

00:42:22.520 I think if there's any wrongdoing there, it needs to be exposed and it needs to be stomped out.

00:42:27.680 Yeah. I mean, is there any idea of what the timeline might be? I mean, it's hard for them,

00:42:32.120 I guess, you know, when you're digging into records, you're getting affidavits, things like

00:42:35.080 that, if you're taking it seriously. I mean, we also know, and it's not the RCMP's place to work

00:42:39.820 within political timelines, but there is a leadership review coming up on April 9th,

00:42:44.160 and we may actually have a new premier in the very near future or not. Do you think any of that

00:42:49.740 might be resolved within a month? You know, it's really hard to say. The RCMP officer did say that

00:42:55.860 this would take some time, and I understand that. We want a fulsome investigation. We want to find

00:43:00.640 the facts. We want to find out exactly what happened. And so, you know, whether it could

00:43:05.320 be done in a, in a month's time, you know, hard to say for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Have you had

00:43:12.140 any communication then with the premier's office? Like, did you ask them first, you know, before

00:43:16.940 you went to the RCMP or did you, I believe you did raise it in question period recently. Have

00:43:22.520 you gotten much response? Yeah, I did. I did raise it in question period. So I give them an

00:43:26.840 opportunity to either deny or admit what went on. The answers to the questions were far from

00:43:35.660 fulsome. There was no actual response to the actual questions. They did go on to try to

00:43:42.480 discredit me and make allegations against me, but obviously that was just an opportunity to deflect

00:43:48.600 from the real question at hand, which of course they didn't answer. Yeah, well, question period

00:43:53.560 It has never traditionally been a good area to get answers contrary to its name.

00:43:57.340 And it doesn't really matter which party is in power.

00:43:59.880 Everybody can point the finger on how the government can obfuscate, you know, and avoid questions.

00:44:05.140 But it is the place at least that you can get it out there and say you inquired.

00:44:08.820 I just wanted to add that, you know, you didn't jump straight to the police.

00:44:11.560 You were trying to get answers first.

00:44:13.540 Yeah, no, no, I definitely wanted to get answers for sure.

00:44:16.320 And, you know, the letter was sent.

00:44:18.740 And, you know, we've done a little bit of investigation on ourselves as far as about the issue by ourselves, as far as what section of the criminal code that it could refer to.

00:44:28.900 So we wanted to make sure that we had, you know, some information that we would present to the RCMP and make sure that they knew which direction to go and everything.

00:44:38.240 And they know their business, obviously, they know which way to go to.

00:44:41.680 But we did point out which sections of the criminal code would be possible violations.

00:44:47.240 Yeah, well, we'll have to wait and see if anything comes of that and if anything serious

00:44:51.700 happened. I mean, I kind of hope just for the sake of everybody that it didn't. We just don't

00:44:54.860 need more criminal wrongdoings going on in places and we'll see what the evidence presents. So as

00:45:01.980 one of the independent caucus kind of hiding in the corner of the legislature there while I got

00:45:06.860 you, what other initiatives have you got on the go during this session right now?

00:45:10.540 Well, myself, I just brought forward Bill 202, which is an amendment to the Alberta Health Act and bringing transparency and accountability to the Health Act.

00:45:23.700 So we'll see how that goes. It's going to be reviewed by a committee in the legislature here, I guess, in the next eight days.

00:45:29.400 But I was able to bring that forward and I'm looking forward to the discussions on that.

00:45:33.480 I think there's a great opportunity to bring some differences there to the Health Act.

00:45:37.980 and just kind of getting back to the last topic there you know we talked about the police

00:45:42.400 investigation and how you know when it might take place we know that we're there's still the

00:45:46.480 investigation going on from the 2017 leadership race and so I think we see a bit of a pattern

00:45:52.740 here where there's when it comes to the premier and his partisan politics antics that that the

00:46:00.420 investigation seemed to follow so so hopefully this one won't take that long to to sort out but

00:46:05.080 I think it's worth pointing out that there is current investigations still going on from

00:46:09.840 previous leadership race. Yeah, and it's a whole other can of worms to open and look into that.

00:46:16.840 I mean, that's part of the concern is the investigation on that's been interminable.

00:46:20.060 I mean, it's been going for years. I'm not sure at what point they're ever going to

00:46:23.140 conclude something on that. We may actually not even have that person leading the party by the

00:46:27.500 time they've figured that out. So hopefully we can get a little more timely response in this

00:46:32.080 current inquiry. Yes, yes, for sure. Okay, well, great. I know your time is tight and

00:46:38.020 legislature's in session lately. Where can people, you know, your constituents find more

00:46:42.640 information about what you're up to and contact you if they need to? Yeah, obviously, Facebook is

00:46:47.360 a good place to look. I usually post things on Facebook fairly regularly on my MLA Facebook page

00:46:52.920 and they can reach out to my office too. The information's available online to be able to

00:46:58.180 contact me. I have two offices, one in Fairview, one in Valleview, and of course the Edmonton

00:47:03.380 office too. And I encourage anybody that wants to contact me on any issue. I'm happy to hear what

00:47:08.540 Albertans have to think on any issues that affect them and their lives and look forward. That's how

00:47:14.320 I learn is by listening. I've never learned anything while I was talking yet, so I'll continue

00:47:19.980 to listen and listen to my constituents and people from across Alberta. Great. Well, I really

00:47:25.200 appreciate you taking some time to talk to our listeners today and give us an update on what

00:47:29.120 you're up to and why you uh you put that letter forward and have talked to the rcmp and uh well

00:47:33.420 just keep up the good work hammering at it in there uh todd i appreciate it okay thanks for

00:47:38.960 i appreciate it too and uh you guys have a good day and again appreciate the opportunity to be

00:47:42.440 here great thanks i'm sure we'll talk again soon you bet all right so yeah that's todd lowen he's

00:47:47.520 up in valleyview i i forgot to ask i should have you know which constituency that is but uh it is

00:47:52.560 one of those northern ones just up from edmonton a few hours there and he's been there for quite

00:47:57.240 some time todd's been a good uh dedicated conservative you know full disclosure i've

00:48:01.280 known him for quite some time we were on the board with the old wild rose together and things like

00:48:04.720 that and uh he's been been serving quite diligently up there from from that limited uh resources you

00:48:10.380 have as an independent member in the legislature so but it's good to have somebody independent you

00:48:15.360 know it's hard to be an independent because you you lack a lot of resources as a party member

00:48:19.480 but you're certainly as unrestrained as you can be, you can just go into the issues that you feel

00:48:24.620 are most important for your constituents. And that appears to be what Mr. Lowen's doing right now.

00:48:29.420 So before I get on to our next guest with another, well, this is a former MLA Donna Kennedy-Glans,

00:48:35.280 and she was also in cabinet, I believe, with the, correct, I read for government. I'm sure she'll

00:48:40.540 let me know when she gets in here. And she's written a book recently, but I do want to talk

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00:49:27.920 government that just seems quite determined to take that right away. And it's constantly

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00:50:04.700 firearms fully and safely as you already have been. Okay, so let's bring Mrs. Kennedy Glanz

00:50:12.160 into the studio virtually here and have a talk about her new book. Hey, how's it going?

00:50:20.720 Oh, I'm afraid perhaps you're muted.

00:50:25.220 It's not good for a lawyer to be muted, is it?

00:50:29.160 No, I mean, that is the worst possible thing we could do to a lawyer.

00:50:34.700 But it's good to see you back again.

00:50:36.240 You know, I do look forward to the day that we do a lot fewer of these remote interviews and Zoom and all that.

00:50:41.080 I mean, I've heard people saying, I wish I never have to hear those words.

00:50:43.880 Can you hear me now ever again?

00:50:46.500 But they've become pretty common these days.

00:50:50.860 So I believe actually the last time we talked was when you were still in the process of getting the book rolling and getting it going.

00:50:56.520 And now you have released your book called Teaching the Dinosaur to Dance.

00:51:01.840 I have, Corey.

00:51:03.480 Thank you.

00:51:04.000 and here it is with the dinosaur and everything on the image um it's it's really nice it's like

00:51:10.000 kind of like having a baby this is my third published book and i've got three children

00:51:14.640 it's a lot less painful to deliver a book than a baby but it's kind of the same thing it takes a

00:51:20.320 lot of lead time and and supply chains were really kind of altered this time and and there's a

00:51:27.360 pandemic and now there's a war so it's it's a really unusual time to be in this space and i'm

00:51:33.440 really grateful that you would and your listeners would want to talk about it so thank you oh no

00:51:38.580 problem i mean we're in some challenging times legislatively economically uh we something that

00:51:44.660 we're lacking a lot of is is uh nuanced discussion i mean we're always so charged all the time i'm

00:51:50.180 guilty of it i mean i start my show with a rant i mean part of what i do is get people rolling but

00:51:53.940 we still have to calm down and look at uh how can we do things i mean government's a reality even if

00:52:00.660 We don't like seeing as much of it as we do, or some of us don't.

00:52:04.160 Businesses are a reality.

00:52:05.280 We're a capitalist place.

00:52:06.260 And a lot of what you focus on is the, I mean, what's your book said,

00:52:10.560 finding fairer ways for capitalism to pull its weight, which it does.

00:52:14.480 But if we get crony capitalism, we get issues.

00:52:16.580 And, of course, if we get government trying to get into capitalism,

00:52:18.900 they tend to mess it up pretty royally as well.

00:52:22.140 So you talk a lot about public-private partnerships and that sort of enterprise.

00:52:25.560 Yes.

00:52:26.280 Well, I think we have to be more creative.

00:52:28.680 when we saw that through the pandemic where we saw communities coming together with for-profit

00:52:34.360 companies coming together with government agencies because there were just no other options and so

00:52:39.240 people did things that they would not historically have naturally done and they tested new ideas and

00:52:45.240 and some of them worked and some of them didn't and we learned a lot so i think we have to build

00:52:49.640 from that and now we're in this horrible situation in ukraine where you know i've been in the oil

00:52:55.560 sector energy sector for 30 years and it's pretty unusual to see these kinds of embargoes on this

00:53:03.000 volume of hydrocarbon and and the you know the reaction of people who are really strong climate

00:53:10.920 change advocates to the notion that we're going to have to find more oil and gas to fill some of

00:53:17.320 these gaps it's it's you know untenable for them but we have to be practical we have to figure out

00:53:23.960 pathways forward that aren't either or answers. And they're requiring different players coming to

00:53:29.860 the table doing things that they traditionally have not done. Can you imagine right now being,

00:53:34.920 you know, inside the management team, leadership team of a company that's just pulled all of your

00:53:41.580 operations out of out of Russia? I mean, some of those big players, BP, $25 billion. That's a lot

00:53:49.480 money that's a lot of money for a super major that's these are big big decisions and they have

00:53:55.000 to make them so that's what this book is about is the status quo is finished like we can't go back

00:54:01.640 to the way things were we have to test new ideas you can't kind of turtle and huddle and say i'm

00:54:08.120 just gonna wait till this all changes and goes back to the way it was before because that's not

00:54:11.720 going to happen so what do you do and people are nervous there are lots lots of things changing

00:54:17.560 out there feels like lots of asteroids are coming at us um we have to figure out which of the

00:54:23.560 asteroids coming at us are ones that are really important for us to pay attention to and at the

00:54:29.320 same time stay true to who we are as an organization because you cannot just you know one day be this

00:54:35.800 and the next day be that it just doesn't hold so that's what the book is about and it's about

00:54:40.600 leadership how do you lead through that yeah well we got some modern realities in in capitalism and

00:54:46.360 business now that a lot of us perhaps chief under but the realities that we have to face and then

00:54:50.440 one of your portions you talk about is self-censorship cancel culture you know these are some

00:54:54.680 some hot button issues inclusive lists inclusiveness checklists you talk about

00:54:59.240 uh we're talking about engaging stakeholders who even oppose your enterprise's goals uh

00:55:05.160 i mean as frustrating as that is these are things you need to do you can't avoid it you can't hide

00:55:09.160 from it in today's culture so you offer advice i guess on how you can model yourself towards

00:55:15.080 meeting those goals, I guess, without losing the goal of your business in the first place?

00:55:19.720 Some people call that stakeholder capitalism, which I think is actually a bit of a distraction.

00:55:25.860 I think it's a bit simpler than that. I mean, I don't want stakeholders running my business.

00:55:31.860 If you're the leader of a business, you're the person who makes the decisions and you're

00:55:36.240 accountable for those decisions and you better be smart about it. But I think there is a lot

00:55:41.800 of merit in going out to not just people that think like you, the like-minded, or even people

00:55:47.940 who are open-minded to what your ideas are, but people who might be critical of what you're doing

00:55:54.060 and in some cases even oppose it. I think it's worth your while as an enterprise to figure out

00:56:01.120 what those people are thinking, why they think what they think. You don't have to agree with

00:56:05.700 them. And I think that's something we don't do particularly well in Alberta. And your earlier

00:56:11.880 guest, Todd, alluded to that. You know, what do we do with dissent? Sometimes we just ignore it,

00:56:18.920 but we do so at our peril. If we want better information and we want to know what we're up

00:56:25.180 against, who's going to maybe stand in our way of what we want, it's usually much better to

00:56:32.040 understand that and understand why they have the pull the position that they do rather than just

00:56:37.960 writing them off or ignoring them and and having things blow up later and that goes for you know

00:56:43.480 relationships on boards it goes for businesses trying to figure out what customers truly want

00:56:49.560 lego i i don't you know my kids love lego we still have lego all you know strewn throughout the

00:56:56.440 drawers of this house um you know my kids are grown up but lego goes out to the kids and says

00:57:03.960 to them what do you want us to do you know they came out with a series of lego that are all

00:57:09.720 different colors of the lgbtq community i mean they they invite their customers to tell them

00:57:17.800 what to build that's creative and it's smart business i mean it's it's it's a sound business

00:57:23.480 practice so the book talks about why to do that and how to do that and it's not comfortable space

00:57:29.960 for everybody so who in your organization is best suited to do this and what kind of skills do you

00:57:36.360 need and what kind of leadership skills do you need to to think that differently so it's uh

00:57:42.200 that's it's a how-to book and a why-to book yeah well as well yeah what todd said is you know you

00:57:49.480 don't learn anything while your mouth's open uh you only learn when you're listening and uh it is

00:57:55.560 something that's counterintuitive to a lot of us you know stubborn outspoken people like me

00:57:59.640 that's not something i like to do but as uh you said listening to the ones even if they don't like

00:58:04.280 you i mean i'll use an example that a lot of our viewers though can relate with i think that prime

00:58:08.440 minister trudeau could have avoided a whole lot of the grief for the last couple of months if he'd

00:58:13.000 actually started respectfully listening to the protesters in the early stages of it before it

00:58:18.440 snowballed into such a massive thing with with their heels dug in on each side that it turned

00:58:22.280 into that catastrophe if he could have even just entertained as you said even if he's not the one

00:58:26.280 we'll send a senior minister to to just engage them you could have totally agree with you yeah

00:58:32.680 it's a just because you've shut somebody up doesn't mean you've changed their opinion and i i think

00:58:37.640 that was it just purely from a respect perspective and i am everyone's prime minister perspective

00:58:45.720 because he is he is representing every one of us and that's really worrisome you you can't just

00:58:51.960 negate uh strong voices uh in a community because you don't agree with them so i've i've taken a

00:58:58.840 little bit of of you know this is serious stuff people are really stressed i'm empathetic to that

00:59:04.360 i think we can't be you know we have to be empathetic but at the same time we have to say

00:59:09.000 to people you're responsible to lead your organization whether it's government or

00:59:13.800 non-profit or for-profit so how are you going to do that so what i've taken to corey is is using

00:59:20.360 this dinosaur and this dinosaur is is rex and i do these tick tock um skits with rex very short 60

00:59:29.560 second you know minute and a half where i'll pretend that rex is one of the dinosaurs that i've

00:59:34.440 encounter and and he he yaps at me and then i kind of talk through with with this rex what you know

00:59:41.720 what other ways there might be to to tackle an issue and it's ridiculous that a 61 year old

00:59:47.640 woman is playing with puppets on tiktok but it is really important for us to to kind of

00:59:53.480 let ourselves play a little give ourselves permission to think differently and and just

00:59:59.720 you know we're really serious these are really tricky serious painful times and we just have

01:00:05.320 to sometimes give ourselves some slack and and this is my way of doing it so i'll introduce

01:00:10.920 your viewers to rex oh yeah well we all need to lighten up now and then it doesn't always have to

01:00:16.440 be dead serious i like posting some of my older pictures of me with my long hair to show that i

01:00:20.520 wasn't always as uptight as i am now but uh and i mean the dinosaur i i could see you know the

01:00:26.520 symbolism you're using i mean it's outdated things have changed and and uh this will always be the

01:00:32.520 way it is as we as we get older we get stuck in our ways and we can't flex but i mean the

01:00:37.080 world is changing and fast thanks to social media and things like that uh so i mean you talk also

01:00:44.040 i see one of your things on on hail mary attempts like you know corporate social responsibility

01:00:48.120 initiatives but i don't think it backfire i mean do you mean if it's a disingenuine initiative or

01:00:52.600 just poorly thought out i mean sometimes they do response with you know the terms virtue signaling

01:00:56.920 but if it's hollow and shallow it's going to look worse than if they've done nothing at all

01:01:00.680 I agree, Corey. I was involved in corporate social responsibility at its genesis in the 1980s. Like, that's a long time ago. In those days, we didn't even talk about environmental sustainability. So it was the idea of doing something beyond what was required by law was pretty unusual.

01:01:21.780 and often in the early days those initiatives corporate social responsibility initiatives were

01:01:28.560 not funded they were just it was optics and it was known to be optics and it was usually given

01:01:34.660 to somebody who was very junior and had no decision making power at the table today ESG

01:01:40.840 as it's now called is more serious because it's tied to finances so it's you're not going to get

01:01:47.660 money from this financial institution unless you do these things and this is how we're measuring

01:01:52.380 it so it's got more teeth but it's it's what I keep talking about to to enterprises saying it's

01:02:00.100 up to you to decide as an enterprise what your values are there are some businesses out there

01:02:06.160 who are perfectly comfortable complying with law that is how they operate and I'm not judging that

01:02:14.040 That's their choice, not mine. As long as they comply with rules and laws, that's fine. That's

01:02:20.440 the way you run your business. But if you say that you're going to go beyond compliance and

01:02:25.480 you want to be part of the solution in the world's problems, and then something like Russia attacks 0.79

01:02:31.640 Ukraine, you're going to be called on to be accountable to those values. And so does that

01:02:37.240 mean you leave Russia? Well, in a lot of cases, it does. And we've seen some pretty significant 0.90

01:02:42.920 exits from Russia as a result of those decisions but it's not crystal clear what those strategies

01:02:50.120 will be and there's nuance a lot of nuance it's far easier if you have the conversations ahead

01:02:57.080 of time and really have a good handle and everybody in your organization shareholders

01:03:02.280 your employees your customers communities where you operate government partners they need to

01:03:08.040 understand what your values are you need to be clear what does what does that mean what does

01:03:13.800 that look like if we're saying we're going to be socially accountable what does that mean if we say

01:03:20.120 we're going to be stewards of water that's huge commitment and we hear oil companies saying that

01:03:25.800 quite a bit what does that actually look like what accountability is there so it's just being really

01:03:33.000 clear about your values and and i don't think there's much time anymore for pr people are

01:03:38.760 calling it out left right and center it's very obvious when somebody's sincere and they're not

01:03:44.040 sincere um and i i think employees are pushing those buttons a lot more now too so well how do

01:03:51.720 you do it yeah well we've got some companies now some of the big ones that are usually big slow

01:03:56.600 turning ships but they suddenly have to pivot as you said bp had a lot of russian interests over

01:04:01.160 there uh it's an integrated world market when it comes to energy so some of these companies now

01:04:06.280 they are being pressured by uh local sources or or even media or you name it like myself ranting

01:04:11.560 at them saying well get on it let's develop our stuff get it to market this is the time the prices

01:04:16.120 are high the people need it but we also know that of course uh the uh ng the engos and a lot of

01:04:22.600 those are cringing because they know that uh this is a point where the the companies are feeling

01:04:26.680 that they could perhaps uh just push through uh without regulation uh doing that balancing act i

01:04:32.760 mean these companies want to make sure they don't do scorched earth on the way in but they do want

01:04:35.640 to take advantage of this uh opportunity then to expand their their domestic holdings uh you think

01:04:40.760 they'll be able to manage that it's a complex question and i keep saying what i keep saying

01:04:45.880 in this space because because it's it's a really polarizing question that you've just pitched there

01:04:52.680 Corey. And I think we can hardly stand any more polarization on the climate change file. It's

01:04:58.840 polarized so badly already. Let's not add fuel to that fire. So when people talk about that,

01:05:06.200 you know, we need to move to renewables. Well, you cannot rely on renewables. Europe knows that.

01:05:14.440 I mean, Europe is very green. And yet at Christmas time, year end, they decided that natural gas

01:05:20.760 and nuclear energy would qualify as green in their financial rules. That was a huge sign.

01:05:29.960 Why in Canada we haven't figured out how to export LNG is still beyond me. The fact that

01:05:36.280 the German, you know, leadership is asking our Prime Minister, please, you know, do you guys

01:05:42.600 have gas? You have natural gas that could be exported. We do have natural gas that could be

01:05:49.160 exported australia has fewer proven natural gas reserves and exports lng it we made an ideological

01:05:57.720 decision it was made for us in ottawa and now people are opening up that door again and i think

01:06:04.520 those are valid conversations i think it's really strange and i've asked this question out loud

01:06:11.160 why is biden going to saudi and venezuela and iran to ask for help right now where is the

01:06:18.600 convert the public conversation with canada you know does he see our prime minister as somebody

01:06:24.440 who is just so opposed to climb anything that would you know compromise climate change that

01:06:30.920 we won't have that conversation that's a public conversation that needs to be had or and this is

01:06:38.360 a bit cynical but or is it that the united states just assumes we're going to be here and that they

01:06:44.360 can tap into the oil sands anytime they need to and they don't need to worry about you know asking

01:06:49.960 us that's a bit cynical but i think there's enough there to warrant that uh comment or question so

01:06:59.160 how do you reconcile the need to continue with renewables and the need to deal with this huge

01:07:04.280 hole that we've got because of the ban on russian crude oil imports and natural gas

01:07:10.440 i i think we need both end and i just i'm a big fan of both and thinking and i really get upset

01:07:17.160 when i see us going to one end of that spectrum or the other is if the answer can be found there

01:07:23.560 because it can't we can't practically do it no and we just got to start thinking differently i

01:07:29.560 mean as frustrating as it is it's been between government it's been between industry uh i of

01:07:34.680 course have been most critical of government but industry has failed to convince government to let

01:07:38.440 them get their stuff to tidewater to let them reduce these regulations uh and the government

01:07:44.040 has held them up on that front now we've got the need now is the opportunity uh but they're gonna

01:07:49.560 have to be you know let's make the opportunity long i mean we've got an ideologically driven

01:07:53.240 government that you know once once the price goes down they might just clamp right back down and

01:07:57.080 shut everybody down again so that's it's a lot of businesses are really going to evaluate their

01:08:01.560 plans right now it's tricky and i i've been watching a lot of the um the decision makers the

01:08:07.240 shale operators in the states the pushback is you know we need to pay attention to profitability

01:08:13.080 we've got shareholders and frankly for some of those shale producers it's just more profitable

01:08:20.600 to sit there with the inventory of drilling locations that you've got and drill out over

01:08:25.000 a longer period of time and make more money and they have to reconcile that they have obligations

01:08:31.400 to shareholders and you can't just keep asking shareholders to take all the risks so it's a

01:08:36.840 balancing act um you know but people now investors and employee potential employees and the public

01:08:45.000 is sitting back going watching and seeing who makes what decisions and on what basis and what

01:08:50.840 are the values driving those decisions and for the companies that can be explicit about that

01:08:56.840 i think it will be better for them longer term because they will they'll galvanize their decision

01:09:02.760 making um and it won't be sloppy and i think right now there's a real need for discipline in

01:09:08.200 your decision making and your thinking and and and i encourage that because i think it actually

01:09:13.560 helps you to be more forthright in the long run yeah well in the uh volatile world we're in right

01:09:20.760 now i think companies able to uh pivot and move are going to be able to take advantage of things

01:09:24.840 and, you know, the stubborn ones are going to get left behind.

01:09:27.940 That's always been the way it is, actually.

01:09:29.820 So the more advice they can take and digest, the better.

01:09:33.600 So where can people, I mean, there's a lot more to cover,

01:09:35.940 but we've only got so much time.

01:09:37.400 Where can we find your book and get a full read

01:09:40.240 and see what you've written up on things?

01:09:41.860 Oh, I'd be delighted if your listeners would buy a copy.

01:09:45.240 You can buy it at Amazon.

01:09:48.340 It's available in Canada.

01:09:49.840 It got released on Monday.

01:09:51.060 it'll be released in the States early in April and in the UK and the EU early in May. But you can

01:09:58.820 get it on Amazon, you can go to your, you know, bookstore that you're comfortable with and order

01:10:04.340 it through there, or they might even have copies on hand. And if you like it, or even if you don't

01:10:10.260 like it, leaving a review would be really helpful if you would do that as well. So thank you. It's

01:10:15.940 an aspirational book it's it's a book written because i just care so much i think we're capable

01:10:22.580 of a lot and i think these are really trying times i have compassion for people but i also think

01:10:28.820 it's in all of our best interests if we can move forward and do things more intentionally um more

01:10:35.540 with more clarity and more strength and more leadership and i think we're i think we're capable

01:10:40.740 of that great well thanks for sharing that with us today and sharing your experience in that book

01:10:46.420 uh i hope it does quite well for you and look forward to the chance to talk to you again in

01:10:50.500 the future anytime thank you corey great thanks donna just review that was donna kennedy glands

01:10:57.700 and the book was what was that dancing with the dinosaur we've got the cover there nico will bring

01:11:03.620 it up by all means look it up check it out and uh yeah they're teaching the dinosaur to dance boy

01:11:08.900 you know i did that long and i already got the the title screwed up but that's uh why we have

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01:11:16.580 perspectives on there guys i mean we we keep trying the old ways sometimes it works often

01:11:20.740 it fails we uh as todd said and other people uh governments uh you know and and don has been in

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01:13:48.780 that's the big discussion that's coming a lot today. And yeah, it's driven me nuts. Biden just

01:13:54.520 will not, will not even consider talking about Canada. I mean, how humiliating it must be for

01:13:59.260 more. I don't even know if he even notices. I don't know what medications that man's on,

01:14:03.240 but you're over there groveling to some of the worst dictatorships on earth, begging them for

01:14:07.620 a while. And they're saying no. And you won't even talk about Canada. One of the things Donna

01:14:13.060 brought up that's true too, they take us for granted. One of the worst positions we've put

01:14:17.180 ourselves in, and yes, mostly due to government, is that the Americans are basically our only 0.94

01:14:23.380 export customer. I mean, we send a lot to the coast through the Trans Mountain line, for example. We

01:14:29.460 always have. I mean, that line's been running since the 50s, safely, I might add. We just want

01:14:33.960 to expand it. But a lot of what comes out of that line goes actually just down into Washington to

01:14:38.480 refineries down there and then feeds the lower mainland and goes through the states. We don't

01:14:41.840 send a heck of a lot in tankers overseas or export it. We send some. When you've got a

01:14:47.640 business, any business, where you've basically only got one customer, you know what? That customer

01:14:52.480 has you buy the short and curlies. They can do to you whatever they please, because they know

01:14:56.800 where else are you going to go? What are you going to do? The more coastal access we get

01:15:02.940 for our products, East Coast, West Coast, even, you know, Hudson's Bay, then Biden would have to say,

01:15:09.260 hey, if I don't start paying attention to our partner in the North, not only will they not

01:15:14.540 need Keystone, they might start shutting down other pipelines because they're getting a better price

01:15:18.580 by shipping it out on tankers to Japan or the Philippines or other areas that are developing

01:15:24.800 and growing and have energy needs. And they want to buy our product. But right now, we've kind of

01:15:30.020 got our eggs in one big basket right now. And that's part of why people talked about the

01:15:33.860 discount we've always had on our oil and gas. You know, I mean, the Alberta rate is much lower than

01:15:40.780 the world rate. Well, that's the reason was lack of capacity, lack of customers. When you only have

01:15:44.460 one customer, they kind of call the shots on what your price is going to be. So again, you're over

01:15:49.200 a barrel. We've got to get more outlets. We've got to get our stuff to the coast. We've got to

01:15:55.000 get to Tidewater. Keystone, we should get that darn thing rolling as well. I mean, Kenny, to his 0.98

01:16:00.220 credit, Premier Kenny has been talking about that, saying he wants to talk about it. Trudeau, no,

01:16:04.340 he's not saying a thing. But like I said, he's an idiot. We've kind of established that. He's over 1.00

01:16:08.860 in Europe, he really has this delusional self-image. He thinks he's going to be some

01:16:14.300 grand statesman. Look at all the time he wasted wanting to get on the UN Security Council. They

01:16:18.700 shunned him. I think people will remember a lot of those videos and pictures of Trudeau at all of

01:16:22.880 these international conferences. The serious players don't talk to him. You know, when you

01:16:28.480 go to any conference or anything, the important parts aren't during the seminars. It's not the

01:16:31.980 speeches that have been written for all of those leaders anyways. They just deliver them.

01:16:35.180 it's the socialization afterwards it's the smoke doors out back it's it's on the floor between the

01:16:40.320 events that's when the leaders or even in smaller scales political uh people or business people at

01:16:45.000 a conference that's where the conversations are and that's where the deals are and you look at

01:16:48.340 all of the the video and you see Trudeau's always standing on the outside of the leaders looking in 0.92

01:16:52.720 they don't take him seriously he's a clown but he wants to be he terribly wants to be he desperately 0.76

01:16:58.820 wants to be so that's why he's over there right now promising the world prancing around doing his 0.96

01:17:03.080 things. Well, Canada's economy is going to crap. Well, we are suffering, sitting on some of the 0.99

01:17:08.680 biggest resources in the world, and we can't export them because that moron wants to virtue 0.98

01:17:14.200 signal by shutting in our conventional energy capacity. As others are saying, independence, 0.97

01:17:19.640 yeah, it's probably gonna be the only way we'll get to it in the end, guys. We're gonna keep

01:17:22.560 pushing all the way along. Independence can be a while yet. And in the meantime, we still have to

01:17:26.700 deal with things. Again, just that reminder, I'm gonna talk about another sponsor before I talk

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01:18:21.920 They've also got corporate packages.

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01:18:44.500 and see if they can help you take control of your money. So yeah, let's get back to the media a

01:18:50.880 little bit. I got that story Dave was talking about. So that's Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez,

01:18:55.120 and he's promising more subsidies and thanking reporters for their coverage.

01:19:01.940 Guys, wow, you know, handing out the candies for media monkeys jumping around on their behalf over there.

01:19:09.600 This is very distressing, you know.

01:19:14.000 And he said we're looking into that in the context of supporting the whole ecosystem.

01:19:17.560 It's not the place of government to support media.

01:19:20.640 The only way government should be supporting media, and likewise with business or anything,

01:19:23.940 is just getting out. Get out of the way. Value free press. Leave it alone. Give them as much

01:19:29.900 transparency and access as you can and stay out of the way. You do not subsidize them. Do not.

01:19:35.640 They don't need it. Don't feed me that crap. They don't need it. They just want it. Hey, 1.00

01:19:41.020 we're making it without subsidies here at the Western Standard. Other independent media outlets

01:19:45.320 are growing. We can do this on a subscriber basis, on an advertiser basis, and that keeps us

01:19:49.780 independent. The government can't control our media, but they're trying, and we've got to be

01:19:55.700 very concerned about this. They're also controlling information in general. You know,

01:20:00.520 more of those stories keep coming up about this purge of the archives, the national archives. I

01:20:05.180 guess there were profane emails following the public outcry. I guess, yeah, public was ticked

01:20:08.860 off when web pages about John A. MacDonald were ripped down by the archivists. You know,

01:20:13.260 they're trying to erase history, erase the founder of the country. As an independent supporter,

01:20:17.360 I kind of say, well, you know what, if you want to keep making us embarrassed to be Canadian,

01:20:21.400 if you want to keep making us ashamed of being Canadian, that makes my job easier as an advocate

01:20:25.540 for independence in the West. I'll tell you that. You know, they do far more than any of the enraged

01:20:30.920 editorials I can give as they keep saying we shouldn't be proud of any of our history or

01:20:37.100 even remembering our history as we keep our flags down for months and months at a time to no end,

01:20:42.240 as Trudeau did. As we talk on Canada Day, I knew a person who worked as a server in a very woke bar,

01:20:49.120 for example, and they were told, don't wear red that day. We don't want to offend anybody.

01:20:53.400 They didn't even want to see their staff wearing red on Canada Day. Really? Now they're also

01:21:00.480 talking about, it was Linda Steele saying, I get uncomfortable whenever I see a flag on a truck.

01:21:04.600 Now, oh my God, the problem is yours, Linda. When I questioned her on that, she blocked me on Twitter,

01:21:08.540 but they had lots of people talking on Twitter.

01:21:10.540 But, so you've actually turned the flag

01:21:13.540 into a symbol that you're afraid of?

01:21:15.720 You're ashamed of?

01:21:16.520 That makes you uncomfortable?

01:21:18.460 I don't think this nation's salvageable.

01:21:21.120 We'll see.

01:21:21.820 I mean, I gotta be polite.

01:21:22.860 I know we've got a lot of listeners and viewers

01:21:24.640 coast to coast.

01:21:25.320 Hey guys, come on out here.

01:21:26.840 I welcome some of our best Albertans

01:21:29.080 and people in Saskatchewan and BC

01:21:31.000 come from other parts of the country

01:21:32.080 and make it here.

01:21:34.280 Come on out.

01:21:34.980 I'm not trying to rip on you guys.

01:21:36.120 My problems with the system,

01:21:37.500 My problems with the attitudes of our leadership and what feeds that.

01:21:43.260 And we've got some real problems.

01:21:46.340 We got to hear, yeah, Gene wants to move the UCP base back to its roots.

01:21:50.340 Boy, we've got a lot of politics going on.

01:21:52.960 Part of our meeting today, like I said, we're going to be setting up in Red Deer on April 9th, by the way.

01:21:57.300 I might as well give the heads up on that.

01:21:59.080 So we're going to be giving just full round-the-clock coverage.

01:22:02.160 That's the weekend when the leadership review for Jason Kenney is happening.

01:22:05.560 will be there the second that they've determined what the vote is. We're going to talk to people

01:22:10.740 who are attending. We're going to, you know, have lots of interviews, lots of coverage. Come on out

01:22:15.140 and see us out there. We're going to be set up. Most of the Western Standard crew is going to be

01:22:18.700 there. We're going to give good, unvarnished coverage to that convention. It's very important.

01:22:24.080 And Brian Jean, I mean, boy, if you're a political wonk, well, this gives us all of the intrigue and

01:22:29.880 stuff going on. You know, Brian Jean clearly wants to make another leadership bid. Of course, he can't

01:22:34.320 do that unless Premier Kinney is out of the way. He's been working very hard on trying to

01:22:38.620 make that happen. Whether it happens or not, we don't know. We'll see. We're going to be there

01:22:43.560 in person covering that throughout that weekend. It's very important. We got some of this other

01:22:49.880 stuff. Here's a story that keeps coming and going all the time. Mandatory body worn cameras worn by

01:22:54.920 the RCMP. They're saying it won't be in place until the 2023 at the earliest. And the bounties

01:23:00.560 have resisted demands for these cameras all the way back from when a videotaped 2007 death of a

01:23:07.280 Vancouver man in police custody. Cameras give accountability guys and it goes both ways you

01:23:14.180 know sometimes police if you've got a camera on you're in a volatile situation it ends with an

01:23:20.680 injured person or something maybe it shows that the the criminal the person was assaulting the

01:23:25.860 officer. The officer had no choice. There you've got your video evidence. We can't pretend too

01:23:30.980 that police don't inappropriately act at times. Police have gotten too violent at times. They

01:23:35.780 have hurt people at times. They've infringed on rights at times. Roll the cameras all the time.

01:23:41.540 Hopefully, I mean, the best thing is that with that rolling officers feel compelled not to do

01:23:47.460 the bad things in the first place. And maybe the person they're arresting realizing they're being

01:23:51.700 documented to knows that they can't make up any stories about being abused and they might behave

01:23:56.100 a little better and if it doesn't work and they still behave poorly well then at least we got a

01:24:01.140 record of it we can deal with that in the courts later uh what do we got justin trudeau is talking

01:24:07.220 about uh spending another 50 million dollars in specialized equipment to ukraine canada made

01:24:12.980 cameras for surveillance drones to help ukraine defend itself i don't take much issue with these

01:24:18.180 things uh you know i just don't like his presence over there embarrassing us in general it's those

01:24:23.620 other conferences we saw how well he did in india when he was trying to dance the the bhangra around 0.98

01:24:27.860 and he was wearing you know playing mr dress up in his costumes and he basically ended up insulting

01:24:32.180 one of the nations that's one of the the best trading partners we've got actually and then

01:24:36.580 many many excellent indian canadians who have immigrated here and contribute and to have uh

01:24:42.660 our our prime minister embarrass us over there in such an important region like that was was terrible

01:24:49.140 See some trends are going the other way.

01:24:50.580 Ontario is going to end the requirement, it sounds like, to wear masks in most public indoor settings, including schools on March 21st.

01:24:57.400 Again, better late than never, right?

01:25:00.020 That's going to happen.

01:25:00.860 We know there's going to be a lot of people lighting their hair on fire.

01:25:03.200 Hopefully, they've learned from Alberta.

01:25:04.920 Because, of course, we know the teachers unions and the usual are going to go bananas because they just want to keep everybody controlled.

01:25:09.820 Well, we unmasked our children in Alberta a long time ago, and the kids are fine.

01:25:13.240 Teachers are fine.

01:25:14.620 We're fine.

01:25:15.380 we're unmasked in restaurants and businesses. I've been noticing, I go out and I watch.

01:25:20.140 I think the very first day that we got unmasked, I went to a superstar, went shopping and I was

01:25:24.100 just watching, you know, anecdotally. I'd say about that first day, about 80% of people were

01:25:28.640 still masked, but at least 20% weren't, including myself. I don't want to wear that bloody thing.

01:25:32.940 Now I went out the other day and I'd say it's about 50%. So it's drifting away. And you know

01:25:37.300 what? If a person wants to wear a mask till the end of time, that's their business. Go ahead.

01:25:41.400 Just don't ask me to.

01:25:42.300 I'm done with it.

01:25:43.040 Sick of it.

01:25:44.620 All right.

01:25:45.160 Well, we've gone on quite a bit today.

01:25:46.700 It was quite a load of guests.

01:25:48.240 So just that reminder, you know, subscribe if you haven't already.

01:25:51.620 And we've got another interesting show coming tomorrow.

01:25:54.500 Somebody was asking about him the other day, but we're going to have David Parker come on.

01:25:57.380 He's going to talk about Take Back Alberta.

01:25:59.280 That's an organized group that has been pushing and trying to encourage people to take out the memberships and register for the convention and move Jason Kenney.

01:26:10.740 on as the leader of the UCP. So we're going to talk to Mr. Parker about that and see what their

01:26:15.400 initiative is about, where they're going with it. And then we're going to have a prospective

01:26:19.740 Maverick Party leadership candidate, Tarek El Naga, people who, I'm probably pronouncing his

01:26:25.680 name wrong, but people who follow him on Twitter, seen him online. He's a very well-spoken and

01:26:32.200 outspoken person for Western independence and good conservative values. He ran in the Maverick

01:26:37.780 Party in the last federal election. Right now, the Maverick Party, I did talk to one of their

01:26:41.720 leadership candidates last week. And so far, he's the only one fully registered. But it sounds like

01:26:46.600 maybe Mr. Elnaga is going to enter the race as well, which it's always healthy for a party. You

01:26:50.380 want to have a race. You want to have some competition for those spots. And he's been on

01:26:53.840 my show before, and he's going to come on and talk to us tomorrow. So just that reminder,

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01:27:16.600 tuning in guys thanks for listening to me rant at you today being my my virtual friends i'm a lonely

01:27:22.040 little man in many ways. And, uh, I will talk to you all tomorrow at 1130 AM sharp.

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