Western Standard - LIVE - Triggered： Canadians need to stand up for themselves

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00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's February 15th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. I hope you all

00:00:40.800 had a good Valentine's Day. If you didn't, well, there's lots of sites where you can sign up and

00:00:45.480 perhaps find a better date next year. Days are counting down now. The show is going to be coming

00:00:49.780 to you live every day at 11.30 a.m. Mountain Standard, Monday to Friday. We do other break-in

00:00:54.960 specials when news breaks, things like that as well through the Western Standard or on this show.

00:01:00.000 And it's great being live.

00:01:01.660 I mean, we get interrupted now and then, but it's, you know, this is part of being a news

00:01:05.220 organization.

00:01:06.220 We cover this stuff as it breaks and, and as it comes out.

00:01:09.500 So the other part of being live is we have comments, we have interactions.

00:01:13.400 So, you know, get in there, make comments, chat with each other, debate with each other.

00:01:17.340 I might read some to the guests.

00:01:18.620 I can't promise always to be able to do that, but the interactivity is fantastic with this

00:01:23.720 sort of thing.

00:01:24.220 And I do see those comments just again, try to keep them civil though.

00:01:27.340 I mean, you know, we can get a little crabby with each other, but we don't need to devolve into fighting.

00:01:32.540 It ruins the experience of being on a live show.

00:01:35.560 So I've got a couple of good guests today, as always.

00:01:38.060 I've got Barbara Kay.

00:01:39.000 Anybody who's been reading newspapers in Canada in the last few decades knows who Barbara Kay is.

00:01:43.720 She's a veteran of the Canadian journalistic world, and she writes columns occasionally for the Western Standard.

00:01:50.160 She's written a couple of very good ones, one that is going to be coming out this afternoon and one that came out a few days ago.

00:01:55.080 So we're going to talk about that.

00:01:56.940 And then I'm going to have Cornelius Christian.

00:01:59.200 He's an associate professor of economics at Brock University,

00:02:02.120 and he submitted a column as well about Scott Moe's reopening

00:02:07.360 and what he's done or what he hasn't done in reducing restrictions.

00:02:11.260 It's four things that Professor Christian feels that Premier Scott Moe

00:02:15.020 still needs to do in Saskatchewan to make things better for citizens.

00:02:18.700 Though I do think, you know, provinces are moving in the right direction, finally, right?

00:02:22.700 We're getting there, agonizingly slowly.

00:02:24.720 Now we are an independent outlet. We aren't getting any tax dollars, any tax funding or subsidies whatsoever. We won't take them. That does mean rely on sponsors, of course, to help pay those bills so we can keep bringing it to you. And I'm going to talk about one of them right now. And that's Bitcoin. Well, you know, in a time like right now, when the government is eyeing your money, they're talking insane measures such as going in and seizing bank accounts from people if they dared to support the trucker's convoy.

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00:03:32.500 effectively. And I think it is time to start moving away from those central banks. We can't

00:03:36.300 trust this government. I know they want to get after our digital currencies too, but they're

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00:03:43.540 out. Okay, well, and with what's got me going today, it's not hard to get a rant up this

00:03:49.300 week. Justin Trudeau's panicked attempt to invoke the Emergencies Act, which is a rebranded

00:03:54.000 version of the War Measures Act, isn't yet a done deal. You know, they're acting as

00:03:58.180 if it's done, but it's not. This proposal still has to come before the House of Commons

00:04:01.760 and the Senate. Now, NDP leader Jagmeet Singh eagerly jumped onto Trudeau's dictatorial

00:04:06.400 bandwagon and offered his full support for the suspension of Canadian rights. That's

00:04:10.780 not terribly surprising. Socialists have never been well known for their respect of individual

00:04:15.340 rights. That said, the left-leaning Canadian Civil Liberties Association has strongly condemned

00:04:20.840 Trudeau's attempt to declare what amounts to a form of martial law upon Canadians. They understand

00:04:26.800 the precedent being set could lead to such actions being taken against left-wing protests in the

00:04:31.300 future as well, even if Singh doesn't understand that, or perhaps Singh doesn't care. His

00:04:35.420 authoritarianism will override his actual ideologies in the end of things. These guys

00:04:40.460 just want control. I don't hold out much hope, but perhaps there's a few principled NDP MPs who

00:04:46.700 understand how important it is to oppose Trudeau's attempted power grab. I mean, the Toronto Star,

00:04:52.060 which has long been Justin Trudeau's strongest media ally, at least in print,

00:04:57.100 even they have called Trudeau's action a shocking admission of failure. Multiple Liberal MPs have

00:05:02.700 already come out openly against Justin Trudeau's handling of the pandemic restrictions, so clearly

00:05:06.860 there's at least a little dissent going on within the federal liberal caucus. The vote on the

00:05:11.940 Emergencies Act motion could be a catalyst for a caucus revolt. Not all of them want to go down

00:05:17.020 in history as politicians who supported such action against Canadian citizens. It would take

00:05:22.060 over 20 MPs to turn code against the Liberals or the NDP to change that vote. It's a large number

00:05:27.640 in a system prone to having MPs strictly adhering to the party line, but it's not insurmountable by

00:05:32.540 any means, especially during such volatile and singular times as now. I mean, the world's gone

00:05:37.740 crazy. I don't see it being beyond belief to see Liberal and NDP MPs coming out of their shells and

00:05:43.020 actually voting on behalf of their constituents. The invocation of the Emergencies Act also has

00:05:47.880 to pass through the Senate. It's difficult to judge what could happen in that chamber. Those

00:05:52.460 guys, they're a different sort. The support for Trudeau's zeal for invoking the Emergencies Act

00:05:57.520 may very well not be terribly strong inside there.

00:06:01.520 The blockages at the Canadian border crossings

00:06:03.800 were pretty much done with

00:06:04.760 and had nothing to do with the actions of Trudeau

00:06:06.780 or the Emergency Act.

00:06:08.000 Local police resources directed by provincial governments

00:06:10.960 proved to be sufficient in addressing those situations.

00:06:14.240 In Ottawa, the mayor managed to cut a deal with protesters

00:06:17.120 to move them out of residential areas voluntarily.

00:06:19.480 The protesters can be reasoned with

00:06:21.300 and there's been no violence of note

00:06:23.240 after weeks of them being present in Ottawa.

00:06:26.340 There's simply no justification for Justin Trudeau to bring in the nuclear option of the Emergencies Act.

00:06:31.680 Trudeau appears to be the only person who doesn't know this.

00:06:33.640 Even Trudeau's second-in-command, Chrystia Freeland, looked visibly uncomfortable as she stood behind Trudeau at his press conference announcing his intent to invoke the Emergencies Act.

00:06:45.140 I mean, if you can suffer through Trudeau's voice for a bit, check out that press conference and just look to the left and look at Freeland.

00:06:51.360 She's twitching and squirming and scratching as she is not happy back there.

00:06:55.200 Politicians tend to look out for their own skins first. 0.92

00:06:58.000 They're going to be watching the actions and atmosphere among the public in the next few days.

00:07:01.600 If they think they're putting themselves in a losing position, they will turn on their leaders in a heartbeat.

00:07:06.040 That puts the ball into our court.

00:07:08.800 Canadians have already been remarkably standing up for themselves this last few weeks.

00:07:12.560 Tens of thousands have been peacefully demonstrating every weekend across the country, and it's been having an impact.

00:07:17.940 Provinces are dropping restrictions, even if the federal government appears intractable.

00:07:22.360 This weekend, we need to take it to the streets.

00:07:24.380 We really do. We need citizens to come out in numbers previously unseen. The protests now need

00:07:30.240 to move beyond just pushing back against pandemic restrictions, and they're into standing up for our

00:07:34.760 most essential of rights. We have to stand up and let the federal government know we won't put up

00:07:39.440 with these efforts to infringe on our freedoms. The government needs to know that invoking the

00:07:44.020 Emergencies Act is only going to make the protests larger and stronger. This isn't about left or

00:07:48.980 right anymore. It's about rights, individual rights. The world is watching Canada right now.

00:07:55.080 Commentators and leaders are in shock over the implications of what Justin Trudeau is trying to

00:07:59.120 do. We're at a turning point. We can stand up for ourselves right now or let the government set a

00:08:04.180 precedent that could infringe on rights for generations. This is a call for action. Every

00:08:08.940 major city in Canada is going to have protests this weekend. Find yours and join it. Set aside

00:08:13.240 time this weekend. Invite and encourage other people to join you. If your community doesn't

00:08:17.780 have a protest, consider organizing one. Modern social media tools give us the means for organization

00:08:22.740 like we never had before. Nobody else is going to stand up for our rights, for your rights. We have

00:08:27.760 to do it for ourselves. And now is our chance. Get out there this weekend, folks. We've got to let

00:08:33.280 Trudeau know this is beyond the pale. We are not going to put up with it. Okay, that is what has

00:08:40.300 got me going today. And I'm going to be talking about that all week. I'm going to the protests

00:08:43.620 here in Calgary. I'm going to be encouraging other people to get out there, get out there

00:08:48.340 peacefully, protest and assemble in large, large numbers. Yeah. And as Nico put up, you can follow

00:08:53.720 me at Corey B. Morgan on Twitter. I'll certainly be constantly pushing and trying to remind people

00:08:58.940 of how important this is. We don't have to take things sitting down anymore. Now let's bring

00:09:03.780 somebody in who is reporting on the news as it's breaking. We've got our news editor, Dave Naylor

00:09:08.500 on deck hey dave how you doing christia freedom cory that's quite a freedom slip oh that was

00:09:14.900 terrible i know i mean uh yeah i'm not sure where that went but uh i'm certainly one of the

00:09:19.860 commentators said perhaps uh christia freeloader would uh would also be that works out quite well

00:09:26.900 uh busy morning in the news again uh cory i know i'm starting to sound like a broken record the

00:09:32.100 last couple of weeks uh our lead story at the moment is the sudden resignation of ottawa's

00:09:37.780 police chief, Chief Slolas. He is announcing his resignation to the police board this afternoon,

00:09:46.640 according to numerous CBC sources. They say he just became too difficult to work with. He was

00:09:53.120 screaming and yelling at high-ranking commanders over their actions at the protest site and had

00:10:02.400 just become a bully, causing problems even with the RCMP as they came in to try and help

00:10:09.720 him. So he has been pilliared by the Liberal Party for not being able to get the truckers

00:10:17.360 out of there. So he's gone as of this afternoon, I think. So that's a big story and doing very

00:10:23.120 well on our site. You remember the fall of Afghanistan, Corey, in August. Canada was

00:10:31.200 the first embassy to flee and close up shop, stranding more than a thousand Canadians in the

00:10:37.700 country. The ambassador there at the time, Ambassador Sims, just got out and left, shut the

00:10:44.720 embassy down. There were still Canadian soldiers there, and they testified at a House of Commons

00:10:50.220 hearing last night that they were embarrassed by their own country's actions, and things didn't

00:10:57.840 didn't help much on the ground. My favorite story of the day is the Feds paid a company $70,000

00:11:08.780 to ask people in the Arctic, in Nunavut, what they thought about global warming.

00:11:15.340 So for that $70,000, they phoned 35 people and asked them. And the basic response was,

00:11:23.040 bring it on we want global warming it's kind of cold up here in the arctic uh so that's uh

00:11:29.360 another huge waste of taxpayers uh money uh we got the latest from uh coots cory uh some good video

00:11:36.720 of uh rcmp and the protesters shaking hands embracing and those truckers are pulling out

00:11:43.920 this morning they should uh should probably all be gone by now i know there are plans to uh to

00:11:50.080 go back and sort of make sure the area is cleaned up and and spotless and just the way uh just the

00:11:56.720 way they arrived i don't think we've heard the last of the group though cory i think uh they've

00:12:01.360 got some other plans up their sleeves uh perhaps coming out as early as this weekend but it won't

00:12:06.880 be it won't be um involving the blockade uh so we've got some more more breaking news out of

00:12:15.040 Ottawa that I'll be writing up. They are dropping PCR testing for incoming travelers at the border,

00:12:22.560 so that'll be good news. Calgary City Council is debating whether or not to discontinue or to 0.97

00:12:30.320 continue with their mask bylaw. That's being covered by our reporter, Eva. So yeah, lots of

00:12:38.640 good stuff on the site already, Corey, and more to come. Great. Well, thank you very much, Dave.

00:12:44.560 Dave, I'll let you get back at it.

00:12:45.760 You got a heck of a lot to write.

00:12:47.180 As somebody pointed out, Dave looks like he hasn't slept in a week.

00:12:49.800 I know he's not trying to be too rude, but you are tired.

00:12:52.200 You've had a heck of a week for a number of reasons.

00:12:54.640 I mean, you know, it is worth mentioning that there was the passing of a very good friend of yours

00:12:58.940 and, you know, an icon in Calgary media with Ian Robinson the other day.

00:13:04.420 And it's really worn on a lot of people.

00:13:07.780 Yeah, he was, for those who never even heard of Ian Robinson,

00:13:12.860 and he was sort of a behind-the-scenes guy at the Calgary Sun for many years

00:13:17.280 and wrote a weekly column six years ago.

00:13:21.440 He got stage four diagnosis of cancer,

00:13:24.360 and he battled it for six years with dignity,

00:13:29.120 and he wrote about it in the Cancer Center's Wellspring magazine.

00:13:35.220 And he inspired a lot of people, and he lost the battle on Saturday.

00:13:39.400 So, yeah, it's been a long, long few days, Corey, that's for sure.

00:13:45.900 Absolutely.

00:13:46.540 Okay, well, thanks for checking in, Dave, and we'll see you after the show.

00:13:50.240 Thanks, Corey.

00:13:51.580 Great, thanks.

00:13:52.640 And, yeah, I mean, you know, as for myself, I was inspired by guys like Ian and that.

00:13:56.100 I liked his, if you remember his columns, he had a good knack for snark,

00:14:00.740 and that's certainly something I appreciate.

00:14:03.160 And it's to see somebody going that young, you know, the cancer is just such an awful, awful, unfair disease.

00:14:10.160 And it hits us, you know, touches us all one way or another.

00:14:14.580 So, yeah, you know, a lot of the theme, though, what we're seeing on news and it's interesting is we're watching, though, the battles almost, but going on over restrictions being dropped and it's happening.

00:14:26.440 You know, in Calgary City Hall, they're fighting as we speak right now because some members say, well, the province is dropping the mask mandates, the city should as well.

00:14:35.500 And, of course, control types like Gondek and Giancarlo Carra just want to maintain control as much as humanly possible.

00:14:42.540 So they want to keep those mandates beyond the Alberta government dropping it. 0.97

00:14:47.400 I feel for Calgary businesses, particularly in retail, hospitality, things like that, because, again, despite what people say, masks suck. 1.00

00:14:56.060 They're a pain in the ass. They ruin our ability to express with each other, to smile at each other, 0.99

00:15:00.900 to talk with each other. And we don't want to go out and socialize with those things on. We can't

00:15:06.280 see our friends and properly have a good time that way. And we've already seen, you know,

00:15:10.760 I'm going to be talking actually with Mike Thomas, one of our columnists who talks about real estate.

00:15:14.800 We've got quite a trend with explosive growth going on in satellite cities outside of Calgary,

00:15:20.580 while growth within the center of the city is slowing further and further. And that's from a

00:15:25.660 decade of ninchey and bad city planning. And I mean, also some of it was beyond their control.

00:15:30.820 It's the oil fields collapse and things such as that. But the city of Calgary has to compete

00:15:35.960 with outside businesses and people are, they are going to drive to Okotoks to go for supper.

00:15:40.800 They're going to go to Airdrie to go to a nightclub. They're going to go to Cochrane to go

00:15:44.340 shopping because they don't want to sit in those muzzles. And that all comes at the expense of 1.00

00:15:50.140 existing Calgary businesses. You know, Terry Wong, I saw, I was watching before the show came on,

00:15:54.940 He's a counselor who I've known for a long time, and he's fairly conservative typically, but he's saying, well, some businesses are concerned that customers will feel uncomfortable if people are unmasked.

00:16:02.260 Look, if that's your kind of business, keep the mask in your own business.

00:16:05.440 It's private.

00:16:06.160 You can have whatever you like.

00:16:07.280 You can demand that people wear a gorilla costume before entering.

00:16:11.900 That's up to you.

00:16:13.360 We don't need the laws for it.

00:16:14.880 And I honestly do not for a second think that there's that many people terrified to move around into a place that doesn't have masks.

00:16:23.360 And if they do, then they've got bigger issues going on than COVID.

00:16:27.080 And I hope they can get some help.

00:16:28.900 Because if they're that afraid of the world, a mask is the least of their worries and issues.

00:16:34.540 But these are the discussions going on.

00:16:35.820 And I'll be talking to Professor Cornelius there a little later, too, because we're seeing restrictions dropping in Saskatchewan.

00:16:44.140 We want to see more of that.

00:16:45.060 Federally, they're talking about, yeah, reducing some of the testing requirements, getting across the border.

00:16:49.060 I think there's some will coming from the Liberal government, even though they know.

00:16:52.780 they don't want to look like they got pushed around by the protesters, but they know they

00:16:56.600 got to start dropping some of these bloody regulations. So I don't care. I've said that

00:17:01.240 on shows before. I don't care what reasoning they use. They can lie to me as to why they did it.

00:17:04.880 It doesn't matter. Just do it. Just do it. Get rid of these. These protests aren't stopping,

00:17:10.880 and I'm going to keep nagging for them. And as Dave pointed out, they've left the border in

00:17:15.260 coots. You know, they've done the bulk of the reasonable ones down their field. They've done

00:17:18.980 everything they can. They've made their message. They're moving along, but they're not gone and

00:17:23.420 they're still upset. And yeah, as I'm talking about with Calgary or somebody was talking about

00:17:27.500 Okatoks and a lot of areas all over Alberta, we can still protest and we can still get rolling.

00:17:31.060 And I suspect these guys are going to show up there. I'll talk a little later in the show about

00:17:34.780 a bit of what's gone on down in Cootes though. I mean, as we've said, we're still waiting for

00:17:38.840 the facts to come out on those arrests of, I believe it was 13 people and the seizure of a

00:17:44.700 of a number of firearms, but really slim on details about what that was about. But one thing

00:17:49.260 that we can say for sure what happened there is the majority of the protesters and coots wanted

00:17:53.020 absolutely nothing to do with that. They had nothing to do with those guys. That's part of

00:17:56.480 why they're moving along. I said, look, we do not want to be smeared with that craziness. That's

00:18:00.460 not what we were about. That's never what we were about. So we're going to move along and take our

00:18:04.120 protests and actions elsewhere. There's a lot of reason to mistrust the RCMP and not necessarily

00:18:10.560 be sure about the story that they're giving on that one but again i've had enough life experience

00:18:15.120 with some pretty crazy people in the past that it's not beyond belief that a dozen

00:18:21.040 you know crazy people have met each other and found each other and thought that that's the

00:18:24.480 place to try and start some kind of insane revolution as well the bottom line though

00:18:28.560 is it did not reflect the protesters at all that was not what they were there for

00:18:33.280 and they refused to give it any time and they are now moving away from there those

00:18:37.680 those protests are leaving Coutts, the border's reopening. It takes that pressure off. And again,

00:18:42.060 it shows, it shows similarly to the idiot waving the Confederate flag who got driven away from 1.00

00:18:47.060 the protests in Ottawa. And now whatever the heck happened with these firearms down there, 1.00

00:18:51.260 the real genuine protesters, and that's the vast majority of them, do not want any part

00:18:55.860 of that extremism, that violence, or any of those things. And they will either leave the site or

00:19:00.620 they will drive out the other person from their site. So this isn't, this isn't finished by any

00:19:05.740 means, but the Coutts protest looks like it is finished. So it looks like we've got our first

00:19:10.060 guest on deck to bring her in. I've been looking forward to this. We've got Barbara Kay. She,

00:19:14.280 as I said earlier in the show, if you've been reading any publications in Canada over the last

00:19:19.500 while, I won't date her saying exactly how long, but it's been quite a few years that she's been

00:19:24.100 out there getting a lot of content out. You know, Barbara Kay's name, and it's just a privilege to

00:19:28.660 be able to get her on the show today to talk to about a couple of her columns. So let's bring

00:19:32.520 you're in here. And hey, Barbara, how are you doing? I'm fine, Corey. Thanks for having me on

00:19:37.020 today. Oh, glad to virtually meet you, you know, after all those editorial discussions through

00:19:41.460 email and such. So, yeah, we've got a couple and you just submitted another one. I gave a teaser.

00:19:47.600 I'll get that up probably this afternoon. But your first column was on the Conservative Party

00:19:53.900 of Canada leadership race. You know, you're, of course, a very in tune political watcher and

00:19:58.020 And you're seeing a potential opportunity for the Conservative Party to, I guess you could say, recapture the support of women.

00:20:05.340 I mean, it's always been a soft area for them.

00:20:07.320 It is. And in fact, the gap between male and female voters for Conservatives is actually quite significant.

00:20:18.560 If they had even closed half that gap in the last election, you know, I think we would have seen a Conservative government.

00:20:25.440 So I think they do have a problem with women voters. And I think that they're kind of been oblivious to that problem for them.

00:20:35.820 I remember I interviewed Aaron O'Toole when he was running for the leadership, and I queried him on that.

00:20:44.960 And I said, you know, I think you have an opportunity if you would step into these latest debates over gender.

00:20:55.540 I think that women are at a serious disadvantage under the new gender ideology, and you could

00:21:03.900 be big heroes for women if you undertook that file and said, you know, we stand up for women

00:21:12.500 and parents.

00:21:13.780 We're opposed to ideologies that promote inclusivity that advantages biological males

00:21:22.820 at the expense of women.

00:21:24.940 So to me, it's a no-brainer because this is a growing problem. There are areas where there's broad, we know from polls, there is a broad acceptance amongst ordinary people that women are getting shafted in order to provide inclusion for biological males who identify as women.

00:21:51.160 and you know what the areas are, you know, sport prisons and private spaces like rape crisis

00:21:58.700 shelters and locker rooms, that sort of thing. Yeah, we just need to inject some common sense

00:22:05.240 back into it and can still be, I believe, common sense and inclusive. There's actually a couple of

00:22:09.840 transgendered activists who are very conservative and they do understand that it's a reach. It's

00:22:16.180 still, they want to be women or they're considered women. They are women. I will accept that if it 1.00

00:22:21.140 person identifies as such, I'll happily recognize them as such. But going into some physiological

00:22:26.360 realities we have to face with prisons and sports, which has been is terrible. I mean,

00:22:31.580 also women's shelters, there were some who had a again, and this person who hadn't even

00:22:35.680 transitioned fully yet, they just identified as such. So here's you've got a number of abused

00:22:39.660 women gathered, and now they have to share space with a biological man. It was horrific.

00:22:46.700 yeah i i push back a little on your your b you see what you said if they if they feel that way

00:22:54.140 if they think they're a woman well i'll go along with that but i don't think you should cory because

00:22:59.500 you're being polite you're being nice but when you say to a biological male well if you feel 0.82

00:23:06.220 like a woman if you feel you are a woman then i will say with you okay a man who feels like a

00:23:12.860 woman is a woman but when you say that you're you're actually acquiescing to um legal ramifications

00:23:21.580 that flow from the statement that you can change your sex you can change your gender you can you

00:23:27.580 can identify all you want as another gender but sex and gender are two different things and there

00:23:34.460 are spaces in the world and also according to our charter uh that uh that are protected spaces

00:23:43.260 for biological women has nothing to do with gender um and wanting to be nice i think that's

00:23:49.260 the problem with canadians so eager to be nice and to be thought of as inclusive that um you know and

00:23:57.580 they don't want to be called transphobic i mean i am routinely called transphobic because i'm

00:24:02.140 I am in favor of women's rights being protected, their sex rights being protected. I don't think

00:24:08.540 it's transphobic to want to protect women's charter rights, but that's what we're made to

00:24:17.540 believe. So, you know, ordinary people don't believe this. Ordinary people are not on board

00:24:23.720 for this idea that you can change your sex because of how you feel. That's a fantasy.

00:24:29.320 that's magic magical thinking I call it gender mysticism you know I think I feel therefore I am

00:24:37.400 but it doesn't work like that in certain areas it's okay for you know a lawyer to say it or an

00:24:43.980 artist or a you know a police officer but it's not okay for a swimmer say who is a biological

00:24:53.220 male and who was setting incredible new records in the women's division when he was a mediocre

00:25:00.720 swimmer against competing against other men. So this is like doping. Our bodies are what they

00:25:09.760 are. No amount of, I mean, surgery can change the outward appearance, but nothing can change

00:25:15.220 who we are in our DNA and our genes. I would say that if, and I do advise the next leader to forget

00:25:24.600 about abortion and forget about gay marriage, all that, that's over. That's a settled, you know, 0.94

00:25:31.280 and stirring it up. I mean, all you can do is give people the right to freedom of speech to

00:25:37.180 talk about it as much as I want, you know, to argue for it and not to call them hateful when

00:25:43.420 they do argue for the rights of unborn children or anything like that, or call them misogynistic.

00:25:50.700 You shouldn't do that. But this is a whole new area that has come about in the last, I would

00:25:57.480 say about since 2015, it has become a huge political issue. And everybody's kind of looking

00:26:04.280 the other way because they don't want to be called transphobic. I really wish, in fact,

00:26:09.320 i feel so strongly about it that if if the leader if the next leader of the conservative party does

00:26:15.080 not grasp that nettle they won't have my support because they're just playing a policy they're just

00:26:21.240 playing they're just that'll tell me that all they're trying to do is to be softer liberals or

00:26:27.320 to be you know uh because this is a huge conservative issue science science and really

00:26:35.000 you know uh being pro-science and pro-biology and pro-objectivity uh that's that should be a

00:26:44.940 conservative issue no absolutely and then uh you know i guess yeah in the way it's a legally loaded

00:26:52.380 word out or a term to say outright that you recognize that person as a woman uh i i guess

00:26:58.040 you know i see that's what makes it complicated at the same time i mean i'm of a mind i mean i had

00:27:02.540 to grow a lot. I have to admit, I was somewhat intolerant of gay people when I was a young man 0.65

00:27:06.760 in the 90s. And we used to call them terrible names. And I thought gay marriage was a ridiculous

00:27:10.220 concept. And I've come around and said, you know what, it's not harming anybody. By all means, 0.98

00:27:14.520 be happy, do what you will. But it took me some time. And I want if a person goes trans as well

00:27:20.020 to be as happy as possible. But at the same time, yeah, we still have to be able to recognize

00:27:24.700 biological reality and science without being driven into the background through, as you said,

00:27:30.720 know the name calling and things like that so you think the conservative party though can find that

00:27:35.200 balance like that's a difficult you know when you've got to explain something in so many minutes

00:27:38.560 like that it is hard to campaign at a doorstep i think it's pretty simple uh i i i think that

00:27:44.320 there's there's one question do you believe uh that uh women need protections in certain areas

00:27:51.200 for their do you think women have sex-based rights in the charter need protections um in areas such

00:27:59.040 as just name them sport prisons rape crisis shelters if you do i'm going to make sure that 0.57

00:28:06.880 the legislation that has been passed that allows biological men to be compete against women or to

00:28:12.240 be in those spaces um are repealed or rescinded or whatever you do uh i would say i i the conservative

00:28:21.680 party uh believes in fairness and safety first and then inclusion but we do believe in inclusion 0.82

00:28:29.840 and we we believe that uh you know trans people have full rights but nobody uh has the right to

00:28:39.680 take away rights from other people in order to have rights for themselves that's something we

00:28:43.840 don't believe in and we're not going to see it continue to happen i i i think you can you could

00:28:50.480 could do a 30 second elevator pitch along those lines quite easily if you hone it you know um

00:28:56.360 there's no problem with it and and it would be the right thing to do uh so you know people think 0.84

00:29:01.980 oh the conservatives aren't for women here's an area where they could be for and they could also

00:29:06.320 make Trudeau look very bad he's backed himself into a corner with this women you know men

00:29:11.480 biological males can go into women's prisons and all that he he's taken a stand he used to be the

00:29:16.860 big feminist if he so he can't get out of that he's he's committed himself to that and uh you 0.72

00:29:23.540 don't have to say we're we're against trans people you say we're for women we're for children we're

00:29:30.820 for parents having a say in their children's instruction when it has to do with theory over

00:29:36.440 science i mean i don't know i could i could write them i could write them a paragraph i could put

00:29:42.140 the whole thing into a paragraph for them but they're not serious they're so far i haven't

00:29:46.580 seen a single conservative leader who was actually serious about wanting to deal with this issue.

00:29:53.100 They just, they want it to go away. They don't want to know about it. They don't want to hear

00:29:55.700 about it. That's not leadership. It's a big issue. It's huge. And it's getting bigger.

00:30:01.940 Yeah. And it's, you're being preemptive and at least bringing it up and saying you guys have

00:30:06.220 got to find your position on this. And it could be an opportunity. I like how you framed it,

00:30:10.780 because you're right. I mean, as parents, women, their kids are competing in athletic sports.

00:30:15.420 they want to make sure their kids have a fair opportunity to be able to compete things like

00:30:19.660 that it's not being unreasonable it's not being hateful they want their their daughters to be

00:30:24.060 safe if they end up in a shelter or something like that listen they they are the ones that

00:30:28.140 are unreasonable but the minute you use that word then you're called a transphobe they just shut

00:30:33.420 down debate on it of course it's reasonable to assume that that uh a male who is intrinsically 0.93

00:30:40.940 stronger and bigger and faster and all the other things than a woman should not be competing

00:30:46.380 against a woman it's just it's totally unfair and totally unreasonable um but uh i i'm sort of

00:30:56.460 baffled this is such a natural subject for them um because conservatives do want to protect their

00:31:03.820 daughters and their wives and their the women that they love in the world um it's a very it's

00:31:10.380 It's a very conservative position that I'm advocating

00:31:14.100 and they're not, and they don't wanna go for it

00:31:16.500 or so far nobody has.

00:31:18.560 And I call that cowardice and weakness.

00:31:21.320 You can't lose by it. 0.85

00:31:22.640 You can be, yes, you'll be called the transphobe,

00:31:24.940 but the only people that'll be screaming that

00:31:27.300 are the activists.

00:31:28.280 They're not as many as you think.

00:31:29.940 They're all over Twitter, but they're not, 0.73

00:31:32.560 they're not ordinary Canadians. 0.67

00:31:35.160 And Twitter is not the real world by any means.

00:31:38.740 And it's going to be an election issue,

00:31:40.660 whether they want to address it or not.

00:31:42.360 So they better figure out where they're gonna stand on it.

00:31:44.580 You're absolutely right.

00:31:45.960 And stake their ground because if they come in defensively,

00:31:48.900 they're gonna lose as they have over and over and over again

00:31:51.220 on those issues.

00:31:53.760 Yeah.

00:31:54.600 So I'll kind of pivot for our last few minutes though.

00:31:57.480 I mean, yeah, that's great.

00:31:59.060 And again, I'll remind people,

00:32:00.000 go to westernstandardonline.com

00:32:01.660 and you'll see Barbara's column on that at length.

00:32:04.740 And it's very, very good as always.

00:32:06.960 And you wrote another one that again, you know,

00:32:09.240 Nico won't be able to pull it up

00:32:10.220 because I haven't edited it yet.

00:32:11.140 You just said it this morning, but it's great.

00:32:12.500 And it's talking about the mental illing of people

00:32:16.120 to use a term for it.

00:32:17.320 Can you expand on what that's about?

00:32:19.240 Yeah, I hadn't seen that term before,

00:32:21.600 but I did see it when I saw the news

00:32:25.200 about this teacher in China.

00:32:28.280 She is pregnant and last month,

00:32:31.060 she got into trouble last month when she published,

00:32:35.440 a writer as well as a teacher and she published an essay that disagreed with some historical

00:32:42.240 whatever um and that was quickly removed from um her her site and so she was she was watched and

00:32:50.880 she was you know reprimanded and everything and finally uh she was um she was placed into a

00:32:59.440 psychiatric institution and they they've called the term mental mental illing a person uh by that

00:33:09.120 it's a political term uh to to when you deal with a political dissident by declaring them

00:33:17.200 in need of mental health treatment and and taken out of you know public operation she managed to

00:33:23.040 get a social media post i don't know if it was instagram or tick tock or whatever it was saying

00:33:29.120 they're taking they're coming for me or they're taking me through it and i'm very concerned about

00:33:32.800 my unborn child and um so that was how people knew about it fortunately you know social media

00:33:39.440 can be worked for bad or good and in this case she managed to get one last post in before they

00:33:44.080 took her away so now everybody knows that she's been taken to a psychiatric institution uh to

00:33:49.200 deal with her political incorrectness um and it just as soon as i read that story you know

00:33:56.160 you could tell from my age that I grew up during the Cold War with Russia. And one of the things,

00:34:01.920 one of the most chilling aspects of Soviet, the way Soviet authorities dealt with people who had

00:34:11.200 wrong ideas or false consciousness or who did not toe the party line was to treat them as though

00:34:19.440 they were mentally ill because only an insane person would not understand that what we say

00:34:27.360 is the truth what the party says is the truth is an absolute truth and if you can't see that 0.99

00:34:34.480 then the only explanation can be that you are mentally ill it was a very logical I mean Karl

00:34:40.240 Marx himself said it when you're that sure of your ideology then you treat people and we have 0.91

00:34:47.840 somebody of course naturally i was making the point because although the outcomes for soviet

00:34:53.920 dissidents were far more draconian than they are here but that mindset that that's that's a leftist

00:35:00.960 mindset um extreme left where it's so clear to you what the acceptable uh way to think is and what

00:35:12.400 But the science. I mean, Karl Marx treated his theories as science. He said they were a science and historic inevitability was part of the scheme. And that was the way the world was going, whether dissidents liked it or not. So what do you do with dissidents? They're getting in the way of the perfecting of the world.

00:35:31.780 How long will such people be tolerated? And of course, in the Soviet Union, they weren't tolerated very long at all. They weren't. So sometimes they only went to prison or the gulag. And sometimes they were shot. And sometimes they went to psychiatric institutions, especially the writers and the scientists and the people who they were most afraid of.

00:36:01.780 they wanted to get them out of public view and they did try to you know it when they were in

00:36:06.340 these institutions uh they were treated as people who were crazy and that needed correction

00:36:11.620 they were very often tortured and when even when they left the institution they would be put into

00:36:16.340 re-education uh camps as china is doing now so when i saw that china was adopting this tactic 0.86

00:36:24.660 from the soviet union you know china's worst days we thought their their worst communist days were 0.89

00:36:30.740 behind them with Mao Zedong and the Cultural Revolution. And we thought China was opening up 0.94

00:36:38.100 and they were warmer to the West and they were open to Western forms of not true democracy,

00:36:48.260 but certainly a more open society than they'd had before. And that did seem to be the case

00:36:53.140 for some years. But as we've seen in the last decade and more, it's going the opposite way.

00:37:00.340 It's going right back to where, not right back, there are differences, but that attitude of shutting, repressing, repressing any kind of speech that does not toe the party line is there.

00:37:17.620 And we know that it's there.

00:37:19.040 And that was one reason I felt we should not have, you know, we should have boycotted these Olympics.

00:37:24.440 but using the tactic of calling people crazy because they dissent and putting them in

00:37:34.280 psychiatric institutions I'm not saying that I think that's going to happen here I don't think

00:37:39.780 it is but the but the mindset is the same it's if you're if you're not if you're not on board with

00:37:48.980 Us. Then you are a racist, misogynist. Andrew Coyne called these people antisocial yobbs with delusions of grandeur. He's a senior columnist with the Globe and Mail. He's a very senior journalist in Canada altogether. 0.93

00:38:10.260 and and he labeled these people the word antisocial has a long history too uh and it means

00:38:18.480 you know people you don't want they're as mr trudeau said they're taking up space i find all

00:38:25.940 these words reminiscent of um uh of an authoritarianism that is quite ugly and i'm not

00:38:34.760 saying people are going to be hauled away to psychiatric institutions but when when people

00:38:40.000 are shunned or cancelled or their bank accounts are frozen because they support certain um protests

00:38:47.980 uh you have the same mindset it's just it's just a question of degree so uh professor uh furaday

00:38:55.520 john furaday many years ago called this mindset velvet totalitarianism and i think he was

00:39:02.420 absolutely right it's the same principles same uh values um and the same certainty that there is

00:39:09.760 only one science one way to go i mean we've seen with the gender thing that the the if you want

00:39:18.040 insanity you only have to look at gender ideology which says that you know men can magically become

00:39:23.580 women and women can magically become men by thinking that they are uh this was the kind of

00:39:28.460 insanity in the soviet union uh where they had you know if we decide we're going to have a plentiful 0.57

00:39:34.300 harvest then we'll have one and if we don't have one we'll say that we had one even though people

00:39:40.300 are starving um so yeah the dehumanizing of people who are of a political viewpoint different than

00:39:50.460 yours is is a terrible trend and it's wrong and as you said we're not locking them in mental

00:39:54.780 institutions, but when you ostracize people like that, when you tell their friends and neighbors

00:39:59.340 that you shouldn't pay attention to people like that, when you say they, I mean, there was even

00:40:02.500 talk about saying, you know, you shouldn't welcome people into your family meals if they hold those

00:40:06.300 viewpoints. That is another form, in my view, just as bad as putting them into a mental institution.

00:40:13.420 You're taking them and telling others to separate them. I so agree. Shunning people

00:40:18.700 is a very terrible that's why we don't that's why isolation in prison solitary confinement

00:40:27.380 is now considered an abusive uh an unusual form of abuse and we don't really do it anymore unless

00:40:34.900 for more than a couple of days it's it's it's a it's a terrible way to treat uh your fellow

00:40:41.580 citizens or to speak about them uh deplorables uh it's divisive it's it's uh uh i find it very

00:40:50.460 ugly and i find that trudeau has become um less tolerant over the years uh you know uh less uh

00:41:02.780 open to other points of view and he now he doesn't even pretend he doesn't even pretend to be

00:41:08.300 you know, Sonny, whatever happened to Mr. Sonny Hayes? That's all, that's long gone.

00:41:14.220 Those are long gone. And I was just sort of flattened. I mean, you know, Coyne's always

00:41:18.300 been a little bit snobby, that's his nature, but he's a very intelligent man and he's written some

00:41:22.860 fantastic things over the years. And he would know the implications of where he's going with that as

00:41:27.540 much as anybody. So I was sort of floored. I mean, I could see him opposing this, but going down that

00:41:32.920 wrote as he did was it was just beyond the pale yeah whatever happened to i disagree with these

00:41:38.500 people i hold a different view not not you don't talk about people's opinions in terms of acceptable

00:41:48.140 and non-acceptable unless of course they're obviously hateful or but nobody's saying anything

00:41:55.280 hateful uh people that have uh different views about the vaccine they may be misinformed you

00:42:02.880 may think they're misinformed but but some of their you know they they might have very legitimate

00:42:08.720 reasons uh why they would want to but we're not even talking about that because that's not the

00:42:14.320 issue the issue is the mandates and when you have 80 90 of people in a country that are vaccinated

00:42:21.120 that's just a ridiculous overkill that's that's it's unnecessary it's it's non-productive and

00:42:27.440 you're talking about people uh whose jobs of all people in the country um are least likely uh to be

00:42:35.280 you know um associating with masses of people they work alone they work alone and they don't

00:42:41.360 even go indoors most of the time so uh it's there is a degree of insanity in this when the rest of

00:42:48.400 the world is opening up you have this one leader who is he's cracking down for the sake of cracking

00:42:55.680 down he he likes the power he likes the he likes lording it over i i mean i don't i don't want to

00:43:03.600 get it into deep psychological it's fodder for another column but i think so yeah but we are

00:43:11.520 we are just right in a i mean a time that we never imagined we would see and it's a volatile one and

00:43:16.480 that makes it a dangerous one. So, uh, you know, as you said, we're all kind of, the world's gone

00:43:21.180 a little insane, uh, whether it's being declared by the state that way or just the way it's gone

00:43:25.920 in general, but I appreciate your columns injecting some sanity into that and the discourse. And I

00:43:31.440 thank you very much for coming on today to expand on those. Uh, I hope we can get the chance to talk

00:43:36.580 again as you, as you get your columns come out. It was a real pleasure. Thanks so much for having

00:43:40.600 me, Corey. Oh, thank you. No, it was great having you on. Like I said, I've loved reading your

00:43:44.340 stuff. And I look forward to it. It was a great chat and we just kind of ran it against the

00:43:48.700 clock. So I'll let you get back to your day and then we'll talk again soon, Barbara.

00:43:53.260 Okay. Thanks, Corey. Take care.

00:43:56.180 Yeah, that was a great chat. I love a good conversation like that. And again,

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00:47:09.380 Okay. So I am going to get on with scrolling through my teleprompter so I can see where my

00:47:15.620 stuff was. And this is a associate professor of economics from Brock university, Cornelius

00:47:21.780 Christian. And he wrote a column for the Western standard a little while back, uh, talking about

00:47:26.260 Premier Mo and four more things he needs to do to go beyond what he has in

00:47:30.800 dropping restrictions. There we go. It says, yeah, Premier Mo needs to do more.

00:47:35.700 So let's bring Cornelius in and expand on what he's written there.

00:47:40.780 Hi, Corey. How are you?

00:47:42.480 Very good. Oh, it's a, it's a pleasure to have you. I appreciate it.

00:47:46.120 I appreciate your column there. So, I mean,

00:47:48.580 I guess if I can just get you straight into it to start kind of breaking down

00:47:51.700 what are the you know professor i mean professor premier mo uh has been one of the most proactive

00:47:57.380 at least in saying he's going to drop some restrictions mandates regulations uh but there

00:48:01.920 were four more things you felt he needs to do yeah so premier mo has gotten a lot of i think uh i

00:48:08.800 think uh accolades from people online for agreeing to lift restrictions and i think that's great i

00:48:16.060 think that he listened to the people he listened to his citizens he listened to truckers and he's

00:48:21.000 now lifting restrictions, I think, which is in line with what the science has been saying for

00:48:26.540 a long time now. But remember, this is the same Premier Mo, who back in August of 2021 said,

00:48:34.720 we will not bring back restrictions. Back in July, he had lifted all prior restrictions,

00:48:39.820 including masking. And he had said, we will not bring them back. And in September, two weeks later,

00:48:44.480 he brought them back. So if Premier Mo really wants us to take him seriously, he needs to do

00:48:51.800 four more things at least. And the first thing he needs to do is he can't just lift the mandates

00:48:57.260 and the restrictions. He actually has to ban them. Ron DeSantis in Florida has already done this. He

00:49:03.200 needs to ban mandates, restrictions, anything else that has to do with COVID. So that if, for example,

00:49:10.500 you are a business that continues to require proof of vaccination, you would get slapped with

00:49:15.100 a fine. If you are somebody who fires a worker because that worker doesn't have vaccination

00:49:21.300 for COVID, if that worker is fired, they would be reinstated and they would be paid two years

00:49:28.480 damages. And so that's the first thing that needs to be done. The second thing needs to be done is

00:49:34.160 that we need to shore up privacy. We have a lot of people now all over the place and we have a lot

00:49:38.700 of institutions which have people's private medical records regarding their vaccination

00:49:43.400 status. And that's not really good. We need to be assured that those institutions will clear that

00:49:48.440 data and that data is going to be protected under enhanced privacy laws. We also need to make sure

00:49:54.260 that people's medical status is protected under the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code. The third

00:50:00.040 thing is we always hear talk about hospital capacity being overwhelmed. And if that's the

00:50:05.800 case, restrictions aren't going to always help that you need to increase hospital capacity. So

00:50:11.380 the first thing that or the third thing that Scott Mo needs to do is actually increase hospital

00:50:16.540 capacity in Saskatchewan. And he needs to, you know, invest more in wards, invest more in hiring

00:50:22.020 more nurses. There was a huge failure in handling the pandemic to the point that they actually had

00:50:28.080 to the legacy media was reporting that people were actually shipped out of the province for

00:50:33.480 treatment in other provinces. So in my view, the SHA, the Saskatchewan Health Authority, which is

00:50:39.980 the governing body for all health care in the province, that board has to be fired and has to

00:50:45.000 be replaced with people who know the job that they're doing. And the fourth thing that needs

00:50:50.760 to be done is that Scott Moe needs to apologize. He needs to apologize for demonizing the

00:50:55.560 unvaccinated. This is the guy, by the way, who said that the unvaccinated should be made to feel

00:51:00.400 uncomfortable in their own province and this is just language that is completely completely wrong

00:51:08.320 it's just unheard of it's it's not acceptable and premier mo needs to apologize there needs to be

00:51:14.280 heartfelt apology and that these four things at a minimum can bring us back to some semblance of

00:51:21.220 normality yeah well and and that's it was good to hear and refreshing i mean we're at a point now

00:51:27.820 where some of the things are dropping and it's good,

00:51:29.760 but we can't let them off the hook.

00:51:31.600 The parallels between Saskatchewan and Alberta

00:51:33.220 and this whole thing are very strong and striking.

00:51:36.300 Jason Kenney's open for good last summer.

00:51:39.740 He made no bones about it.

00:51:40.740 We're never restricting.

00:51:41.600 We're never locking down again.

00:51:43.780 Maybe he absolutely meant it at the time,

00:51:45.560 but he was obviously wrong.

00:51:46.840 And he turned back on that.

00:51:47.880 We went back into lockdown as well.

00:51:50.860 He promised that we would never have a vaccine passport. 0.66

00:51:53.000 Well, we got a vaccine passport.

00:51:54.800 we need to have that confidence that then as we reopen as we drop restrictions that is we're just

00:52:02.480 not going back into a cycle again and we need to corner them right now while they're open and get

00:52:06.520 these commitments to reduce the chances i guess of them turning around on this absolutely you know

00:52:10.440 scott moe in his conference when he was announcing the lifting of restrictions he was asked by a

00:52:15.820 journalist what would happen if hospitals start to get overwhelmed again and he said well we

00:52:19.720 might have to discuss bringing back things like passports and restrictions. And that's just not

00:52:25.440 acceptable. I mean, you know, there was a Johns Hopkins study recently, and I think your viewers

00:52:29.900 will have known about it. The Johns Hopkins study showed that lockdowns restrictions have

00:52:35.060 at most a very small effect on preventing COVID deaths. On the other hand, they do cause a lot

00:52:41.900 of collateral damage in terms of things like mental health, drug overdoses, suicides, et cetera,

00:52:47.780 et cetera, et cetera. People get laid off work. And then there are problems with that. There's

00:52:52.200 all kinds of health problems associated with restrictions. And we can never bring back

00:52:57.780 restrictions for something like COVID. That's just unacceptable. And this kind of language that

00:53:04.100 the restrictions are contingent on hospital capacity, we need to do away with that completely.

00:53:10.040 If hospital capacity is your main focus, increase hospital capacity. Don't bring

00:53:15.240 back restrictions to protect hospital capacity if we have a bad flu year for example are we going

00:53:21.060 to have more restrictions again are we going to bring back masking um this will this will never

00:53:26.880 end if this kind of language is adopted so scott mo needs to be brave he needs to be bold and he

00:53:32.780 needs to do these four things and it starts with just banning restrictions and mandates outright

00:53:38.400 well absolutely and that discussion of finding ways to increase our hospital capacity and it's

00:53:44.700 the same here as well. I mean, we were raising alarm bells in Alberta and lighting our hair on

00:53:49.620 fire because we were getting near a hundred people in the ICU at one point. It's a little over that

00:53:53.160 now. And they're saying this is about to bring the system to its knees. We're a province of four and

00:53:57.020 a half million people. How does a hundred beds after two years of this, you know, if this was

00:54:01.840 the first weeks, we could perhaps be a little bit forgiven, but we haven't come anywhere closer to

00:54:06.380 being able to handle or manage this. So there's definitely going to be an ongoing fear of us

00:54:10.420 being locked down yet again if we don't increase that capacity in every province. Absolutely and

00:54:15.640 that's one of the things that all provinces I think can do and the federal government could

00:54:20.880 have actually helped with that would would have been to give more funds to increase hospital

00:54:25.380 capacity to an extent where this doesn't become a problem anymore and I mean there was some

00:54:29.900 investment I understand in in hospital capacity but clearly it wasn't enough if we're still

00:54:35.260 saying that we need to lock down if we're still saying as you said that 100 beds is already

00:54:40.820 overwhelming a population of 4 million i mean this is just unacceptable in a in a country like

00:54:46.840 canada which is a wealthy country which should be able to be able to afford to take care of sick

00:54:52.480 people i mean we have one of our prides is our health care system and uh you know we talk about

00:54:58.820 tommy douglas we can go back to the introduction of medicare and so on and that's a point of

00:55:03.640 national pride for Canadians, but it should not be a point of national pride that a small

00:55:09.740 increase in the need for hospital beds completely overwhelms the system. And that's just not

00:55:17.700 acceptable at all. No, and we're always running at about 90, 96% capacity, even in non-COVID times.

00:55:24.640 A lot of people perhaps don't realize that. If you search past stories, we see numerously times

00:55:29.540 when large flu outbreaks overwhelm the hospitals.

00:55:32.400 And we should have addressed this a long time ago.

00:55:35.360 And even now, though, aside from, you know,

00:55:37.220 from people like yourself and columnists,

00:55:38.780 we're not seeing political leaders coming out

00:55:40.900 and saying it's time to reform the system yet.

00:55:42.820 They're still terrified of even challenging

00:55:45.080 that institution of our healthcare system in Canada

00:55:47.820 that we've sort of canonized as being, you know, flawless.

00:55:51.640 And clearly it needs some improvement.

00:55:53.460 We need to start opening those discussions up 1.00

00:55:55.140 on that sacred cow.

00:55:56.280 I mean, it doesn't mean gutting it,

00:55:57.280 But we have to have a frank discussion on how well it's serving us.

00:56:01.100 Oh, absolutely. I 100% agree with you.

00:56:03.360 You know, Canada is, I think, if you look at our wait times, it's some of the worst in the OECD countries.

00:56:10.960 We've got a lot of problems with our health care system that need to be fixed.

00:56:15.460 I think we might be one of the only OECD countries that has only a public or primarily a public health care system.

00:56:23.180 So we don't have both a public and a private healthcare system acting in kind of adjacency

00:56:28.380 with each other and competing with each other.

00:56:30.980 We just have the public state-run healthcare system.

00:56:34.680 And that's caused a lot of problems, as you kind of mentioned.

00:56:37.840 And you're right, if there's a bad flu year, you know, and there have been bad flu years

00:56:42.320 before COVID, again, we have an overwhelming of our hospital capacity.

00:56:47.240 So Mo really needs to fix this and he needs to apologize.

00:56:50.540 I mean, you know, saying that you will not bring back restrictions and then bringing them back two weeks later, I mean, this is unacceptable.

00:56:59.200 These are red lines that have been crossed.

00:57:02.540 Apologize, ban it, fix it, make sure that people's health data is protected and make sure this never happens again.

00:57:12.080 Yeah, apologies are often a very difficult thing to get out of politicians, but it has happened before.

00:57:17.320 You know, I wish Moore would study, you know, the history of a very successful one, whether you loved him or hate him.

00:57:23.800 But Ralph Klein was incredibly popular and effective in Alberta.

00:57:27.940 And there was a number of times he screwed up.

00:57:29.740 But you know what?

00:57:30.040 He was the first one to get up there and say, hey, look, I screwed up and I won't do it again.

00:57:33.500 And I am sorry.

00:57:34.560 And you've got to be genuine about it.

00:57:36.220 And people felt that he was.

00:57:38.820 But I mean, you know, you can't we know that you can only legislate your way to block things in the future so much.

00:57:45.380 I mean, you can always reverse legislation.

00:57:46.780 But if a premier is actually taking the trouble to genuinely apologize, I doubt they're going to want to put themselves back into that circumstance again.

00:57:52.780 Yeah. And I don't want to be too hard on Mo, but he hasn't even been a little bit apologetic for his actions.

00:57:59.800 He said quite unequivocally, I believe that the vaccines passports have worked.

00:58:05.300 I believe that the vaccine passports were the right idea.

00:58:08.140 He even said in the press conference that the benefits outweighed the risks of the passports at the time, even though he later admitted that the passports themselves and the vaccines themselves have zero effect on the transmission or spread of the virus.

00:58:21.780 So, I mean, this kind of double language that he's invoking is really troubling. And it's it's I mean, he needs he needs to just, you know, as you say, like Ralph Klein did and like other politicians who have the confidence to do so, get up there, apologize to Saskatchewanians, apologize for, you know, putting mandates that have coerced people into getting this jab.

00:58:45.320 This is unacceptable. You know, people should have a free choice about what medical treatments that they want to choose in consultation with their doctor.

00:58:53.580 They shouldn't be coerced into it on threat of not being able to travel or losing employment or not being able to access certain services.

00:59:02.580 Another concern that you pointed out was, of course, there's so much private medical data that's now been spread all over the place.

00:59:09.380 And I don't know if that's toothpaste we can get back into the tube.

00:59:12.080 I mean, you want to mitigate it and stop it, but I think almost like the firearms registry, too.

00:59:15.880 I mean, that data all went out and we know darn well that, you know, it was supposed to be destroyed.

00:59:20.880 The RCMP never did. And, you know, it's kind of out there in the world.

00:59:24.700 They won't upgrade, update it anymore, but the damage is kind of done.

00:59:28.160 What could be done to try and contain some of that data?

00:59:31.680 Well, yeah, this is the problem that you kind of highlight, right?

00:59:34.400 Once you sort of decide that medical data, people's private medical data can be held by pretty much anybody,

00:59:40.980 any employer, any institution, you already are opening a can of worms. What other kind of data

00:59:46.540 can my employer have? Can they have data on what religion I follow? Can they have data on my other

00:59:52.700 medical history, like my other diseases or other kind of things that I've had? Can they have data

00:59:59.600 on people that I know? This is all kind of problematic. I think the privacy legislation

01:00:06.800 needs to be shored up so that there are penalties for employers and for people holding on to this

01:00:11.760 data longer than is necessary. And I also think that the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code needs to

01:00:17.720 have a section that would make medical history its own category. We already protect people on 0.64

01:00:24.180 the basis of race, on the basis of religion, on the basis of sexual orientation, etc. We need to

01:00:29.900 start to protect people on the basis of their medical history. That way, people will not be

01:00:35.900 discriminated against based on whether they had a vaccine but whether they don't have a vaccine

01:00:40.500 whether they have a mask exemption or not you know people with mask exemptions people with

01:00:45.580 legitimate mask exemptions people who have asthma and so on have been treated like second-class

01:00:50.820 citizens they've been forced to wait outside a store while you know somebody comes and gets

01:00:55.540 them stuff they can't go inside um you know this again has contributed to the demonization of people

01:01:01.740 who have legitimate medical conditions.

01:01:04.620 I think this would be a way forward to help protect people.

01:01:12.420 Absolutely.

01:01:12.960 I mean, we're divided enough.

01:01:13.800 We don't need co-workers splitting with each other over,

01:01:16.240 I don't want to share the lunchroom with that guy

01:01:17.680 because I found out he's not vaccinated for this and this.

01:01:20.540 And it doesn't necessarily even have to be a vaccine for the flu or COVID.

01:01:25.380 I mean, there's a lot of things.

01:01:26.280 Or there might be an employer saying,

01:01:27.280 I don't want to hire that person

01:01:28.300 because they have a family history of heart conditions.

01:01:30.340 And I might end up with them sick too often.

01:01:33.220 I mean, there's just the reasons are too long to count as to why medical records need to be kept as private and personal as possible.

01:01:41.400 And we've opened the door to spreading those.

01:01:43.880 That's a very dangerous precedent.

01:01:45.480 And this is where you hit the nail right on the head.

01:01:47.500 the government has never, nowhere in Canada, nowhere in the world, no government has ever

01:01:54.320 articulated a limiting principle whereby our individual rights can be superseded by these

01:02:01.700 vaccination mandates. These vaccination mandates, everybody who's honest will admit that they

01:02:06.640 trample over people's individual rights to privacy, to medical non-coercion, to

01:02:13.620 non-discrimination. And you can argue, some people might argue, okay, in some cases in emergencies,

01:02:19.480 we need to trample over people's rights so that we can protect people. I mean, that's already a

01:02:24.280 difficult and a dangerous argument. It's a slippery slope to follow down. But if that's the argument

01:02:29.520 that you're making, that you need to put a mandate in place to protect people, what is your limiting

01:02:34.480 principle? Are you going to now say that people who have other diseases can't participate in

01:02:41.120 society? Are you going to say that people who look a certain way, who have a certain type of

01:02:47.340 medical history or a certain kind of ethnicity or a certain kind of sexual orientation can't

01:02:52.480 participate in society? I mean, that might seem like a stretch, but it really isn't. I mean,

01:02:56.980 what you're essentially saying is that people who have made a certain medical decision are going to

01:03:03.220 be isolated from society and we are going to trample over their rights. Why? What is your

01:03:09.400 limiting principle where do you draw the line for doing that and no government has articulated where

01:03:16.360 that line is if you can draw that line clearly right at least i could respect that at least i

01:03:21.240 could say okay fine you have the line there and you guys are you know might maybe petty tyrants

01:03:26.360 but at least you've drawn the line nobody has done that they've acted in an arbitrary manner

01:03:31.320 um and you know now we see that with even uh with even trudeau uh federally he's refused to speak

01:03:37.880 with the truckers who are demanding an end to the vaccination mandates, and he hasn't laid down the

01:03:44.560 line whereby he would actually let go of these mandates. Yesterday, there was a vote. The

01:03:50.940 Conservative Party, I think Candace Bergen, tabled a motion for the Liberals to end the vaccine 0.80

01:03:56.700 mandates, or at least put a plan forward to end the mandates. Very moderate, very slight kind of

01:04:02.920 motion and they rejected it they rejected it along with the NDP I mean this is not a mature

01:04:08.280 government that we're talking about these are people who are petty who are a little bit uh you

01:04:14.160 know arrogant and full of themselves and who are actually not following the science Teresa Tam has

01:04:18.920 said that you know we need to re-examine these restrictions and throughout Canada we've um we

01:04:24.440 look and we see that people are saying you know these vaccination mandates these vaccination

01:04:28.100 passports, they don't make sense anymore. Let go of them. And actually, for those of us who are

01:04:34.960 following the science more closely, like you have, Corey, and your viewers, we've known that for a

01:04:39.860 long time. We've known that for about a year, that this doesn't make any sense. This is just

01:04:45.740 an effort at power. And Trudeau has shown that already with his implementation of the

01:04:53.280 Emergency Measures Act as well. Yeah. I mean, the numbers are coming in. We can't pretend we're

01:04:58.360 in the first few months of this any longer. And I mean, if I could see a demonstration of efficacy

01:05:03.380 from these measures and these intrusions in our lives, I still probably wouldn't like it because

01:05:08.360 I don't like the government intruding in any part, but I would be a little more comfortable

01:05:12.280 if we could see that, hey, every place that's brought in these passports or these travel

01:05:16.520 restrictions has found that infections and deaths dramatically dropped and it's effective and long

01:05:22.100 term, not just a hiccup or a dip in the chart. But we're not seeing that. We're not seeing that

01:05:26.400 at all. And as you said, it's like Johns Hopkins. We're not talking about YouTube University.

01:05:29.800 We're talking about solid accredited individuals are coming out and saying, look, we've looked at

01:05:35.380 the data, we've looked at things now, and these just aren't effective. Yet we have a government

01:05:39.360 who insists on clinging to these mandates to the point of invoking the Emergencies Act. It's insane.

01:05:46.100 Absolutely. And you know, even early on in 2020, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University,

01:05:51.160 Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University, Sunitra Gupta of Oxford University, David Katz of Yale,

01:05:57.280 a whole bunch of leading epidemiologists and scholars were saying that lockdowns are not

01:06:03.300 going to work to battle COVID. What you need is focused protection of the elderly, people who are

01:06:08.360 who have pre-existing conditions, people who are going to get very sick and end up in the ICU.

01:06:13.700 You need to focus your protection on that and let everybody else live their lives normally,

01:06:18.520 give them information that they can use to protect themselves. But other than that, don't trample down on society, don't trample down on individual rights, let people live their lives normally. And, you know, many people, you know, you talk to people and, and many people don't know that these top scholars have said that lockdowns don't work that, you know, vaccination mandates, vaccination passports are just overly coercive.

01:06:42.900 Even Martin Kullorf has recently said that in the Brownstone Institute. It's absurd now that universities in Canada, across Canada, who should actually be following the science are rejecting the science and are asking their students and their staff and their faculty to be vaccinated in order to be present on campus.

01:07:02.760 It's absolutely crazy, including my own university, Brock University, which is one of the most stringent vaccination mandates in this country and has actually gone after professors and students who refuse to give in to their vaccination mandate or disclose their private medical information.

01:07:21.700 These are universities not following the science.

01:07:24.360 And I really I really fear for the future of academia.

01:07:29.200 Yeah, well, I fear for a lot of things.

01:07:31.580 we're in such a crazed time, but hopefully we can start coming out in the right direction.

01:07:34.880 And I appreciate your writing, I think, in a proactive way. It's again, saying, okay,

01:07:38.620 we're not going to say, you know, everything's done. We're back to normal. Once these are dropped,

01:07:42.560 we need to follow through and we need to follow up and we need to make sure this doesn't happen

01:07:47.960 again and make sure we've learned from it. So where else can we find information on what you're

01:07:52.740 doing? And do you write for any other publications or things like that? Well, I write occasionally,

01:07:56.820 but my website is corneliuschristian.com and you can find me there. Okay, excellent. And you're

01:08:02.740 at Brock University. Well, I appreciate that, Cornelius. I hope we get some more guest columns

01:08:06.580 out of you soon and hope we can talk again on the show sometime. Thank you for having me, Corey.

01:08:10.720 All right. Thank you very much. So yeah, isn't it nice to get, I think we've had two guests in a

01:08:15.880 row with some nice heavy doses of common sense out there. I think we were all very overdue for it.

01:08:20.420 And I really appreciated Mr. Christian's column that came out. Again, you know, just

01:08:26.700 let's examine things. Let's set aside the rhetoric. Let's set aside the ideology and just start

01:08:31.100 looking at things and don't let these politicians off the hook just because they've backed off on

01:08:35.160 the mandates. I mean, we're going to start talking about running up, screaming with the pitchforks,

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01:09:48.120 through some more of the news going on. Oh, I don't want to talk about my old buddy, old Gil

01:09:51.900 McGowan, you know, the, the head of the Alberta Federation of Labor. And he's been there a long

01:09:56.220 time. Boy, you really get to know Gil. You realize that it kind of like the prime ministership. You

01:10:03.160 don't have to be all that smart to rise to the top somehow because he's been there quite a while.

01:10:06.940 And that guy's not much brighter than a tree stump, but either way we watch him, we watch his

01:10:11.040 process. And he's actually, I like to remind people, his role is constitutionally entrenched

01:10:15.620 in the NDP. The NDP of Alberta, Rachel Notley's party, has to have a number of Alberta Federation

01:10:23.300 of Labor members on their board controlling their party. So Gil McCowan, as goofy as he is, 0.72

01:10:29.720 is a man of influence, at least in the NDP. So bear that in mind if you're ever considering

01:10:33.760 going back to the NDP again. Anyways, Gil took the Alberta government to court. He wanted an

01:10:38.660 injunction. You want to know what he was doing for us? You know what that labor leader was doing?

01:10:43.460 He wanted to have the courts intervene and force children to wear masks in school.

01:10:47.400 He wanted to mask our children.

01:10:48.900 He wanted the hammer of the courts to override our government and force those kids to wear masks.

01:10:54.780 In an act of good news, or I mean, not an act of good news, an act of good judgment,

01:10:58.120 the courts told him to roll up his challenge and stick it somewhere.

01:11:01.940 They're not going to intervene.

01:11:03.060 The kids can remain unmasked.

01:11:04.460 You know, they were, I mean, they were union-led and they could always, oh, these were student walkouts.

01:11:08.960 Oh, BS, BS.

01:11:10.940 They're union-led.

01:11:11.620 and they try to get the kids to walk out

01:11:14.380 and protest against being unmasked yesterday. 0.99

01:11:16.940 It was pathetic. 0.96

01:11:17.920 But getting back to, 0.96

01:11:18.740 I like reporting on my torturous trip

01:11:20.580 down mainstream media every day

01:11:21.860 when I drive in and listen to talk radio, 0.99

01:11:23.240 which we will replace, damn it. 0.99

01:11:25.460 But they were talking about that 0.99

01:11:26.980 and reporting on it.

01:11:28.280 And they talked about up

01:11:29.100 in Nelson Mandela High School in Calgary,

01:11:31.480 50, 50 students went out on Walked Out.

01:11:34.740 I mean, they forget to mention what,

01:11:36.040 I think there's over a thousand students there

01:11:37.880 that didn't.

01:11:39.020 How is this newsworthy?

01:11:40.180 50 kids played hooky.

01:11:42.140 So what? Hey, I used to sneak out behind my school and smoke joints and cigarettes.

01:11:45.320 They didn't report on it in the news.

01:11:47.540 Meanwhile, up in Edmonton, there were dozens of concerned parents, quote-unquote union people,

01:11:53.180 protesting wanting their children masked up there as well.

01:11:56.260 Don't give credence to this. This is a tiny, tiny minority. 0.89

01:11:58.980 The vast majority are happy to see their kids unmasked.

01:12:01.080 We know damn well the kids are happy to be unmasked.

01:12:03.340 They're sick and tired of it. 1.00

01:12:04.840 But our Federation of Labor wanted to try and use and abuse our court system to keep those kids masked, 0.73

01:12:10.080 and they failed. Good. Let's see, Gil will have another long line of failures with any luck over

01:12:15.880 time. Let's see, from Black Locks, they're talking about the cabinet's going to be looking at changing

01:12:20.740 COVID-19 rules for cross-border travelers. I think Dave mentioned that earlier as well.

01:12:26.100 Of course, they won't say if it's influenced by Freedom Convoy protests. Again, I don't care. I

01:12:30.440 don't care if they admit that it was influenced by that or not, as long as they change it. That's

01:12:35.240 what started this whole thing. And I mean, the cabinet yesterday also claimed the Freedom Convoy

01:12:39.180 truckers pose a threat to national security. You know, where do you get this? And they're saying

01:12:46.200 that the country is facing a largely foreign funded targeted and coordinated attack on critical

01:12:50.480 infrastructure and our democratic institutions. That's what Bill Blair told reporters. They're

01:12:55.920 prepared to do whatever's necessary to restore order. As you can see there, man, Nico, it gets

01:13:00.880 on these awesome graphics, you know, so there. So if I'm reading it too fast, you can see the bulk

01:13:05.700 there in that picture. This is absurd. We do not have a foreign takeover concerted attack. We saw

01:13:11.940 that. We saw that with the breakdowns. They're just trying to steal money. And this was Canadians

01:13:16.240 and it was over a hundred thousand Canadians who were donated to these sites as they're chasing

01:13:19.780 the funds here, left, right, and everywhere and trying to criminalize the ability to give some

01:13:24.720 of your own money to a protest that you feel represents you. That's what they want to do.

01:13:29.620 They want to criminalize it. They want to steal your money if you dare to donate to that. 0.51

01:13:32.640 Do you understand how insane this is?

01:13:36.260 And, I mean, look online.

01:13:38.220 Look at American news.

01:13:39.740 Look at international news.

01:13:41.080 The world is looking at us in horror.

01:13:43.640 In horror.

01:13:44.700 Canada has invoked the Emergencies Act, which, again, as I said,

01:13:48.520 right between the lines, it's the War Measures Act.

01:13:50.220 We just haven't had a war in a long time.

01:13:52.560 Over some protesters in Ottawa.

01:13:54.960 This is nuts.

01:13:57.100 But, you know, let's talk about other things in the cabinet, right?

01:14:00.860 They lie.

01:14:01.660 They lie all the time. Here's one right now. Cabinet is not even thinking of taxing Canadians

01:14:05.720 home equity, Housing Minister Hassan said yesterday. This has come up over and over and

01:14:10.960 over again over the years. They keep putting out studies, proposing and trying to find a way to do

01:14:16.400 a home equity tax. And then when they get caught, they say, we're not considering doing it. They're

01:14:20.120 lying. They're lying to our faces. They want to come after your money in your homes. And they

01:14:24.740 want to take capital gains on your primary residences. And they're going to eventually

01:14:29.820 look at the precedents that we're setting right now. They literally want to steal the money from

01:14:33.360 your bank account if you dare to fund a protest. Of course they would steal the equity you've earned

01:14:36.960 in your homes. And some of those studies, for those who haven't read them, some of the stuff

01:14:40.120 they said, they talk about people winning the lottery. They say the reason you got home equity,

01:14:44.220 some said your home equity grows while you're laying on the couch watching TV. That's literally

01:14:47.600 what they said. These politics of sick envy. No, these are people who worked a whole lifetime to

01:14:52.660 pay down their bloody mortgages and to maintain their homes and hopefully increase equity so

01:14:57.520 they can retire on it or hand it down to their kids. And our government wants to steal that.

01:15:01.680 It's disgusting. And it's not surprising anymore. Let's see here, the Privy Council office, 0.70

01:15:09.400 confidential research found Canadians increasingly unhappy with the cabinet's pandemic management,

01:15:15.240 including in the absence of a reopening plan. That's something that Cornelia spoke of as well.

01:15:20.220 This polling report came in weeks after the election and saw the liberals regaining office.

01:15:25.780 So they know that we aren't liking where they're going, but it doesn't seem to have stopped them.

01:15:30.000 I don't know what it will take at this point.

01:15:34.900 What's this?

01:15:35.460 CBC is using illegal hacked data to contact contributors to the convoy.

01:15:38.860 I don't know.

01:15:39.500 I mean, data is going all over.

01:15:40.500 There's some crazy stuff going on.

01:15:43.560 Nothing's going to surprise me anymore.

01:15:45.840 You know, something's been hitting the news a lot, too.

01:15:47.860 I was going to talk to the lawyer for him, but he got taken over to Ottawa for a lot of things.

01:15:52.060 You know, Brian Peckford is still speaking up a lot.

01:15:54.520 For those not familiar with him, he was a prime minister of Newfoundland.

01:15:57.780 He's the last living contributing author to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

01:16:02.020 And he's still concerned.

01:16:03.220 I mean, he is very upset over the government trying to invoke the Emergencies Act,

01:16:07.820 the government trying to crack down on citizens, on Canadians.

01:16:11.680 This act is going to allow them to steal your money.

01:16:15.340 I mean, they're talking about the few little things that it may do.

01:16:18.280 Oh, we'll just do a couple of little things to bring these protests down.

01:16:20.940 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:16:22.320 You can't just take a little bit of rights away.

01:16:24.520 This is opening a floodgate and it's a big one. And I mean, as was pointed out earlier, this has not been done since 1970. We're doing it over some protesters in Ottawa, some truckers. It's just frightening. And I mean, when that was invoked in 1970, they arrested without warrant, without charge, 500 people and held them.

01:16:48.240 That's what totalitarian regimes do.

01:16:50.960 Not saying that that's going to happen so far, but this is the first step.

01:16:54.100 When you bring the act in like that, you're trying to get that kind of power.

01:16:58.000 One of the things they talked about was being able to force tow truck companies to go tow vehicles.

01:17:03.580 If they say, no, we don't want to do it, they say, too bad.

01:17:06.040 We will arrest you if you don't.

01:17:08.300 Think about that.

01:17:08.880 You will be arrested if you don't work for the government.

01:17:12.500 You understand how insane that sounds?

01:17:14.500 Yet that's really what they want to do.

01:17:16.300 That's really what's happening.

01:17:17.940 Wake up.

01:17:19.380 That's why, yeah, I don't care if it's minus 30 this Saturday.

01:17:21.520 By the way, it's supposed to be quite nice.

01:17:22.600 I'm going out there downtown, and I'm going to protest this weekend,

01:17:25.360 and I want everybody else to.

01:17:26.400 We've got to stand up.

01:17:27.440 This government has lost control, not just of themselves, but of us.

01:17:31.720 And they want to bring down the hammer on us, and we can't let them.

01:17:35.540 There's still time to turn back.

01:17:36.920 There's still time to bring the internal pressure back into that government.

01:17:40.520 As I said, a lot of those members of parliament are self-serving.

01:17:42.840 If they think they're going to lose their jobs over this,

01:17:44.740 they will fight, even if only behind closed doors.

01:17:47.440 They might get Trudeau to make an excuse.

01:17:49.340 Oh, we think we've accomplished enough

01:17:51.100 and we'll take that legislation off the table.

01:17:52.860 I don't care how and why they take it off the table.

01:17:55.120 It's as long as they do.

01:17:56.500 And if it comes to a vote,

01:17:57.480 maybe we'll have pushed enough politicians to say,

01:18:00.360 no, this is not required right now.

01:18:02.360 We're going to vote against it.

01:18:04.100 And if they do impose it, then we have to protest.

01:18:06.960 We have to protest like we've never protested before, guys.

01:18:09.560 They're stealing our rights.

01:18:11.320 This is not minor, not in the slightest,

01:18:14.000 and over not nearly enough justification.

01:18:16.580 Remember, when they brought it in in 1950,

01:18:18.240 and some people still don't agree with it,

01:18:21.240 the FLQ had killed six people.

01:18:24.100 They had set over 500 bombs.

01:18:26.300 They had done hundreds and hundreds of robberies over years.

01:18:29.440 This is what it led to.

01:18:30.320 They kidnapped and murdered a cabinet minister,

01:18:34.220 and they'd kidnapped a foreign diplomat.

01:18:36.220 That is where you bring in an act like this

01:18:39.160 and put soldiers on the streets.

01:18:40.420 Not because the people have bouncy castles on Parliament Hill.

01:18:43.560 this is just beyond the pale we have to stand up guys when you give freedoms away you don't get

01:18:50.440 them back easily you don't ah the veins going down again okay so i'm going to start winding

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01:19:47.600 on people and how we've got to try and regain our liberty because it is under terrible threat

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Western Standard - February 16, 2022

LIVE - Triggered： Canadians need to stand up for themselves

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