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00:03:43.540out. Okay, well, and with what's got me going today, it's not hard to get a rant up this
00:03:49.300week. Justin Trudeau's panicked attempt to invoke the Emergencies Act, which is a rebranded
00:03:54.000version of the War Measures Act, isn't yet a done deal. You know, they're acting as
00:03:58.180if it's done, but it's not. This proposal still has to come before the House of Commons
00:06:23.240after weeks of them being present in Ottawa.
00:06:26.340There's simply no justification for Justin Trudeau to bring in the nuclear option of the Emergencies Act.
00:06:31.680Trudeau appears to be the only person who doesn't know this.
00:06:33.640Even Trudeau's second-in-command, Chrystia Freeland, looked visibly uncomfortable as she stood behind Trudeau at his press conference announcing his intent to invoke the Emergencies Act.
00:06:45.140I mean, if you can suffer through Trudeau's voice for a bit, check out that press conference and just look to the left and look at Freeland.
00:06:51.360She's twitching and squirming and scratching as she is not happy back there.
00:06:55.200Politicians tend to look out for their own skins first.0.92
00:06:58.000They're going to be watching the actions and atmosphere among the public in the next few days.
00:07:01.600If they think they're putting themselves in a losing position, they will turn on their leaders in a heartbeat.
00:13:52.640And, yeah, I mean, you know, as for myself, I was inspired by guys like Ian and that.
00:13:56.100I liked his, if you remember his columns, he had a good knack for snark,
00:14:00.740and that's certainly something I appreciate.
00:14:03.160And it's to see somebody going that young, you know, the cancer is just such an awful, awful, unfair disease.
00:14:10.160And it hits us, you know, touches us all one way or another.
00:14:14.580So, yeah, you know, a lot of the theme, though, what we're seeing on news and it's interesting is we're watching, though, the battles almost, but going on over restrictions being dropped and it's happening.
00:14:26.440You know, in Calgary City Hall, they're fighting as we speak right now because some members say, well, the province is dropping the mask mandates, the city should as well.
00:14:35.500And, of course, control types like Gondek and Giancarlo Carra just want to maintain control as much as humanly possible.
00:14:42.540So they want to keep those mandates beyond the Alberta government dropping it.0.97
00:14:47.400I feel for Calgary businesses, particularly in retail, hospitality, things like that, because, again, despite what people say, masks suck.1.00
00:14:56.060They're a pain in the ass. They ruin our ability to express with each other, to smile at each other,0.99
00:15:00.900to talk with each other. And we don't want to go out and socialize with those things on. We can't
00:15:06.280see our friends and properly have a good time that way. And we've already seen, you know,
00:15:10.760I'm going to be talking actually with Mike Thomas, one of our columnists who talks about real estate.
00:15:14.800We've got quite a trend with explosive growth going on in satellite cities outside of Calgary,
00:15:20.580while growth within the center of the city is slowing further and further. And that's from a
00:15:25.660decade of ninchey and bad city planning. And I mean, also some of it was beyond their control.
00:15:30.820It's the oil fields collapse and things such as that. But the city of Calgary has to compete
00:15:35.960with outside businesses and people are, they are going to drive to Okotoks to go for supper.
00:15:40.800They're going to go to Airdrie to go to a nightclub. They're going to go to Cochrane to go
00:15:44.340shopping because they don't want to sit in those muzzles. And that all comes at the expense of1.00
00:15:50.140existing Calgary businesses. You know, Terry Wong, I saw, I was watching before the show came on,
00:15:54.940He's a counselor who I've known for a long time, and he's fairly conservative typically, but he's saying, well, some businesses are concerned that customers will feel uncomfortable if people are unmasked.
00:16:02.260Look, if that's your kind of business, keep the mask in your own business.
00:21:24.940So to me, it's a no-brainer because this is a growing problem. There are areas where there's broad, we know from polls, there is a broad acceptance amongst ordinary people that women are getting shafted in order to provide inclusion for biological males who identify as women.
00:21:51.160and you know what the areas are, you know, sport prisons and private spaces like rape crisis
00:21:58.700shelters and locker rooms, that sort of thing. Yeah, we just need to inject some common sense
00:22:05.240back into it and can still be, I believe, common sense and inclusive. There's actually a couple of
00:22:09.840transgendered activists who are very conservative and they do understand that it's a reach. It's
00:22:16.180still, they want to be women or they're considered women. They are women. I will accept that if it1.00
00:22:21.140person identifies as such, I'll happily recognize them as such. But going into some physiological
00:22:26.360realities we have to face with prisons and sports, which has been is terrible. I mean,
00:22:31.580also women's shelters, there were some who had a again, and this person who hadn't even
00:22:35.680transitioned fully yet, they just identified as such. So here's you've got a number of abused
00:22:39.660women gathered, and now they have to share space with a biological man. It was horrific.
00:22:46.700yeah i i push back a little on your your b you see what you said if they if they feel that way
00:22:54.140if they think they're a woman well i'll go along with that but i don't think you should cory because
00:22:59.500you're being polite you're being nice but when you say to a biological male well if you feel0.82
00:23:06.220like a woman if you feel you are a woman then i will say with you okay a man who feels like a
00:23:12.860woman is a woman but when you say that you're you're actually acquiescing to um legal ramifications
00:23:21.580that flow from the statement that you can change your sex you can change your gender you can you
00:23:27.580can identify all you want as another gender but sex and gender are two different things and there
00:23:34.460are spaces in the world and also according to our charter uh that uh that are protected spaces
00:23:43.260for biological women has nothing to do with gender um and wanting to be nice i think that's
00:23:49.260the problem with canadians so eager to be nice and to be thought of as inclusive that um you know and
00:23:57.580they don't want to be called transphobic i mean i am routinely called transphobic because i'm
00:24:02.140I am in favor of women's rights being protected, their sex rights being protected. I don't think
00:24:08.540it's transphobic to want to protect women's charter rights, but that's what we're made to
00:24:17.540believe. So, you know, ordinary people don't believe this. Ordinary people are not on board
00:24:23.720for this idea that you can change your sex because of how you feel. That's a fantasy.
00:24:29.320that's magic magical thinking I call it gender mysticism you know I think I feel therefore I am
00:24:37.400but it doesn't work like that in certain areas it's okay for you know a lawyer to say it or an
00:24:43.980artist or a you know a police officer but it's not okay for a swimmer say who is a biological
00:24:53.220male and who was setting incredible new records in the women's division when he was a mediocre
00:25:00.720swimmer against competing against other men. So this is like doping. Our bodies are what they
00:25:09.760are. No amount of, I mean, surgery can change the outward appearance, but nothing can change
00:25:15.220who we are in our DNA and our genes. I would say that if, and I do advise the next leader to forget
00:25:24.600about abortion and forget about gay marriage, all that, that's over. That's a settled, you know,0.94
00:25:31.280and stirring it up. I mean, all you can do is give people the right to freedom of speech to
00:25:37.180talk about it as much as I want, you know, to argue for it and not to call them hateful when
00:25:43.420they do argue for the rights of unborn children or anything like that, or call them misogynistic.
00:25:50.700You shouldn't do that. But this is a whole new area that has come about in the last, I would
00:25:57.480say about since 2015, it has become a huge political issue. And everybody's kind of looking
00:26:04.280the other way because they don't want to be called transphobic. I really wish, in fact,
00:26:09.320i feel so strongly about it that if if the leader if the next leader of the conservative party does
00:26:15.080not grasp that nettle they won't have my support because they're just playing a policy they're just
00:26:21.240playing they're just that'll tell me that all they're trying to do is to be softer liberals or
00:26:27.320to be you know uh because this is a huge conservative issue science science and really
00:26:35.000you know uh being pro-science and pro-biology and pro-objectivity uh that's that should be a
00:26:44.940conservative issue no absolutely and then uh you know i guess yeah in the way it's a legally loaded
00:26:52.380word out or a term to say outright that you recognize that person as a woman uh i i guess
00:26:58.040you know i see that's what makes it complicated at the same time i mean i'm of a mind i mean i had
00:27:02.540to grow a lot. I have to admit, I was somewhat intolerant of gay people when I was a young man0.65
00:27:06.760in the 90s. And we used to call them terrible names. And I thought gay marriage was a ridiculous
00:27:10.220concept. And I've come around and said, you know what, it's not harming anybody. By all means,0.98
00:27:14.520be happy, do what you will. But it took me some time. And I want if a person goes trans as well
00:27:20.020to be as happy as possible. But at the same time, yeah, we still have to be able to recognize
00:27:24.700biological reality and science without being driven into the background through, as you said,
00:27:30.720know the name calling and things like that so you think the conservative party though can find that
00:27:35.200balance like that's a difficult you know when you've got to explain something in so many minutes
00:27:38.560like that it is hard to campaign at a doorstep i think it's pretty simple uh i i i think that
00:27:44.320there's there's one question do you believe uh that uh women need protections in certain areas
00:27:51.200for their do you think women have sex-based rights in the charter need protections um in areas such
00:27:59.040as just name them sport prisons rape crisis shelters if you do i'm going to make sure that0.57
00:28:06.880the legislation that has been passed that allows biological men to be compete against women or to
00:28:12.240be in those spaces um are repealed or rescinded or whatever you do uh i would say i i the conservative
00:28:21.680party uh believes in fairness and safety first and then inclusion but we do believe in inclusion0.82
00:28:29.840and we we believe that uh you know trans people have full rights but nobody uh has the right to
00:28:39.680take away rights from other people in order to have rights for themselves that's something we
00:28:43.840don't believe in and we're not going to see it continue to happen i i i think you can you could
00:28:50.480could do a 30 second elevator pitch along those lines quite easily if you hone it you know um
00:28:56.360there's no problem with it and and it would be the right thing to do uh so you know people think0.84
00:29:01.980oh the conservatives aren't for women here's an area where they could be for and they could also
00:29:06.320make Trudeau look very bad he's backed himself into a corner with this women you know men
00:29:11.480biological males can go into women's prisons and all that he he's taken a stand he used to be the
00:29:16.860big feminist if he so he can't get out of that he's he's committed himself to that and uh you0.72
00:29:23.540don't have to say we're we're against trans people you say we're for women we're for children we're
00:29:30.820for parents having a say in their children's instruction when it has to do with theory over
00:29:36.440science i mean i don't know i could i could write them i could write them a paragraph i could put
00:29:42.140the whole thing into a paragraph for them but they're not serious they're so far i haven't
00:29:46.580seen a single conservative leader who was actually serious about wanting to deal with this issue.
00:29:53.100They just, they want it to go away. They don't want to know about it. They don't want to hear
00:29:55.700about it. That's not leadership. It's a big issue. It's huge. And it's getting bigger.
00:30:01.940Yeah. And it's, you're being preemptive and at least bringing it up and saying you guys have
00:30:06.220got to find your position on this. And it could be an opportunity. I like how you framed it,
00:30:10.780because you're right. I mean, as parents, women, their kids are competing in athletic sports.
00:30:15.420they want to make sure their kids have a fair opportunity to be able to compete things like
00:30:19.660that it's not being unreasonable it's not being hateful they want their their daughters to be
00:30:24.060safe if they end up in a shelter or something like that listen they they are the ones that
00:30:28.140are unreasonable but the minute you use that word then you're called a transphobe they just shut
00:30:33.420down debate on it of course it's reasonable to assume that that uh a male who is intrinsically0.93
00:30:40.940stronger and bigger and faster and all the other things than a woman should not be competing
00:30:46.380against a woman it's just it's totally unfair and totally unreasonable um but uh i i'm sort of
00:30:56.460baffled this is such a natural subject for them um because conservatives do want to protect their
00:31:03.820daughters and their wives and their the women that they love in the world um it's a very it's
00:31:10.380It's a very conservative position that I'm advocating
00:31:14.100and they're not, and they don't wanna go for it
00:32:31.060she got into trouble last month when she published,
00:32:35.440a writer as well as a teacher and she published an essay that disagreed with some historical
00:32:42.240whatever um and that was quickly removed from um her her site and so she was she was watched and
00:32:50.880she was you know reprimanded and everything and finally uh she was um she was placed into a
00:32:59.440psychiatric institution and they they've called the term mental mental illing a person uh by that
00:33:09.120it's a political term uh to to when you deal with a political dissident by declaring them
00:33:17.200in need of mental health treatment and and taken out of you know public operation she managed to
00:33:23.040get a social media post i don't know if it was instagram or tick tock or whatever it was saying
00:33:29.120they're taking they're coming for me or they're taking me through it and i'm very concerned about
00:33:32.800my unborn child and um so that was how people knew about it fortunately you know social media
00:33:39.440can be worked for bad or good and in this case she managed to get one last post in before they
00:33:44.080took her away so now everybody knows that she's been taken to a psychiatric institution uh to
00:33:49.200deal with her political incorrectness um and it just as soon as i read that story you know
00:33:56.160you could tell from my age that I grew up during the Cold War with Russia. And one of the things,
00:34:01.920one of the most chilling aspects of Soviet, the way Soviet authorities dealt with people who had
00:34:11.200wrong ideas or false consciousness or who did not toe the party line was to treat them as though
00:34:19.440they were mentally ill because only an insane person would not understand that what we say
00:34:27.360is the truth what the party says is the truth is an absolute truth and if you can't see that0.99
00:34:34.480then the only explanation can be that you are mentally ill it was a very logical I mean Karl
00:34:40.240Marx himself said it when you're that sure of your ideology then you treat people and we have0.91
00:34:47.840somebody of course naturally i was making the point because although the outcomes for soviet
00:34:53.920dissidents were far more draconian than they are here but that mindset that that's that's a leftist
00:35:00.960mindset um extreme left where it's so clear to you what the acceptable uh way to think is and what
00:35:12.400But the science. I mean, Karl Marx treated his theories as science. He said they were a science and historic inevitability was part of the scheme. And that was the way the world was going, whether dissidents liked it or not. So what do you do with dissidents? They're getting in the way of the perfecting of the world.
00:35:31.780How long will such people be tolerated? And of course, in the Soviet Union, they weren't tolerated very long at all. They weren't. So sometimes they only went to prison or the gulag. And sometimes they were shot. And sometimes they went to psychiatric institutions, especially the writers and the scientists and the people who they were most afraid of.
00:36:01.780they wanted to get them out of public view and they did try to you know it when they were in
00:36:06.340these institutions uh they were treated as people who were crazy and that needed correction
00:36:11.620they were very often tortured and when even when they left the institution they would be put into
00:36:16.340re-education uh camps as china is doing now so when i saw that china was adopting this tactic0.86
00:36:24.660from the soviet union you know china's worst days we thought their their worst communist days were0.89
00:36:30.740behind them with Mao Zedong and the Cultural Revolution. And we thought China was opening up0.94
00:36:38.100and they were warmer to the West and they were open to Western forms of not true democracy,
00:36:48.260but certainly a more open society than they'd had before. And that did seem to be the case
00:36:53.140for some years. But as we've seen in the last decade and more, it's going the opposite way.
00:37:00.340It's going right back to where, not right back, there are differences, but that attitude of shutting, repressing, repressing any kind of speech that does not toe the party line is there.
00:37:19.040And that was one reason I felt we should not have, you know, we should have boycotted these Olympics.
00:37:24.440but using the tactic of calling people crazy because they dissent and putting them in
00:37:34.280psychiatric institutions I'm not saying that I think that's going to happen here I don't think
00:37:39.780it is but the but the mindset is the same it's if you're if you're not if you're not on board with
00:37:48.980Us. Then you are a racist, misogynist. Andrew Coyne called these people antisocial yobbs with delusions of grandeur. He's a senior columnist with the Globe and Mail. He's a very senior journalist in Canada altogether.0.93
00:38:10.260and and he labeled these people the word antisocial has a long history too uh and it means
00:38:18.480you know people you don't want they're as mr trudeau said they're taking up space i find all
00:38:25.940these words reminiscent of um uh of an authoritarianism that is quite ugly and i'm not
00:38:34.760saying people are going to be hauled away to psychiatric institutions but when when people
00:38:40.000are shunned or cancelled or their bank accounts are frozen because they support certain um protests
00:38:47.980uh you have the same mindset it's just it's just a question of degree so uh professor uh furaday
00:38:55.520john furaday many years ago called this mindset velvet totalitarianism and i think he was
00:39:02.420absolutely right it's the same principles same uh values um and the same certainty that there is
00:39:09.760only one science one way to go i mean we've seen with the gender thing that the the if you want
00:39:18.040insanity you only have to look at gender ideology which says that you know men can magically become
00:39:23.580women and women can magically become men by thinking that they are uh this was the kind of
00:39:28.460insanity in the soviet union uh where they had you know if we decide we're going to have a plentiful0.57
00:39:34.300harvest then we'll have one and if we don't have one we'll say that we had one even though people
00:39:40.300are starving um so yeah the dehumanizing of people who are of a political viewpoint different than
00:39:50.460yours is is a terrible trend and it's wrong and as you said we're not locking them in mental
00:39:54.780institutions, but when you ostracize people like that, when you tell their friends and neighbors
00:39:59.340that you shouldn't pay attention to people like that, when you say they, I mean, there was even
00:40:02.500talk about saying, you know, you shouldn't welcome people into your family meals if they hold those
00:40:06.300viewpoints. That is another form, in my view, just as bad as putting them into a mental institution.
00:40:13.420You're taking them and telling others to separate them. I so agree. Shunning people
00:40:18.700is a very terrible that's why we don't that's why isolation in prison solitary confinement
00:40:27.380is now considered an abusive uh an unusual form of abuse and we don't really do it anymore unless
00:40:34.900for more than a couple of days it's it's it's a it's a terrible way to treat uh your fellow
00:40:41.580citizens or to speak about them uh deplorables uh it's divisive it's it's uh uh i find it very
00:40:50.460ugly and i find that trudeau has become um less tolerant over the years uh you know uh less uh
00:41:02.780open to other points of view and he now he doesn't even pretend he doesn't even pretend to be
00:41:08.300you know, Sonny, whatever happened to Mr. Sonny Hayes? That's all, that's long gone.
00:41:14.220Those are long gone. And I was just sort of flattened. I mean, you know, Coyne's always
00:41:18.300been a little bit snobby, that's his nature, but he's a very intelligent man and he's written some
00:41:22.860fantastic things over the years. And he would know the implications of where he's going with that as
00:41:27.540much as anybody. So I was sort of floored. I mean, I could see him opposing this, but going down that
00:41:32.920wrote as he did was it was just beyond the pale yeah whatever happened to i disagree with these
00:41:38.500people i hold a different view not not you don't talk about people's opinions in terms of acceptable
00:41:48.140and non-acceptable unless of course they're obviously hateful or but nobody's saying anything
00:41:55.280hateful uh people that have uh different views about the vaccine they may be misinformed you
00:42:02.880may think they're misinformed but but some of their you know they they might have very legitimate
00:42:08.720reasons uh why they would want to but we're not even talking about that because that's not the
00:42:14.320issue the issue is the mandates and when you have 80 90 of people in a country that are vaccinated
00:42:21.120that's just a ridiculous overkill that's that's it's unnecessary it's it's non-productive and
00:42:27.440you're talking about people uh whose jobs of all people in the country um are least likely uh to be
00:42:35.280you know um associating with masses of people they work alone they work alone and they don't
00:42:41.360even go indoors most of the time so uh it's there is a degree of insanity in this when the rest of
00:42:48.400the world is opening up you have this one leader who is he's cracking down for the sake of cracking
00:42:55.680down he he likes the power he likes the he likes lording it over i i mean i don't i don't want to
00:43:03.600get it into deep psychological it's fodder for another column but i think so yeah but we are
00:43:11.520we are just right in a i mean a time that we never imagined we would see and it's a volatile one and
00:43:16.480that makes it a dangerous one. So, uh, you know, as you said, we're all kind of, the world's gone
00:43:21.180a little insane, uh, whether it's being declared by the state that way or just the way it's gone
00:43:25.920in general, but I appreciate your columns injecting some sanity into that and the discourse. And I
00:43:31.440thank you very much for coming on today to expand on those. Uh, I hope we can get the chance to talk
00:43:36.580again as you, as you get your columns come out. It was a real pleasure. Thanks so much for having
00:43:40.600me, Corey. Oh, thank you. No, it was great having you on. Like I said, I've loved reading your
00:43:44.340stuff. And I look forward to it. It was a great chat and we just kind of ran it against the
00:43:48.700clock. So I'll let you get back to your day and then we'll talk again soon, Barbara.
00:55:57.280But we have to have a frank discussion on how well it's serving us.
00:56:01.100Oh, absolutely. I 100% agree with you.
00:56:03.360You know, Canada is, I think, if you look at our wait times, it's some of the worst in the OECD countries.
00:56:10.960We've got a lot of problems with our health care system that need to be fixed.
00:56:15.460I think we might be one of the only OECD countries that has only a public or primarily a public health care system.
00:56:23.180So we don't have both a public and a private healthcare system acting in kind of adjacency
00:56:28.380with each other and competing with each other.
00:56:30.980We just have the public state-run healthcare system.
00:56:34.680And that's caused a lot of problems, as you kind of mentioned.
00:56:37.840And you're right, if there's a bad flu year, you know, and there have been bad flu years
00:56:42.320before COVID, again, we have an overwhelming of our hospital capacity.
00:56:47.240So Mo really needs to fix this and he needs to apologize.
00:56:50.540I mean, you know, saying that you will not bring back restrictions and then bringing them back two weeks later, I mean, this is unacceptable.
00:56:59.200These are red lines that have been crossed.
00:57:02.540Apologize, ban it, fix it, make sure that people's health data is protected and make sure this never happens again.
00:57:12.080Yeah, apologies are often a very difficult thing to get out of politicians, but it has happened before.
00:57:17.320You know, I wish Moore would study, you know, the history of a very successful one, whether you loved him or hate him.
00:57:23.800But Ralph Klein was incredibly popular and effective in Alberta.
00:57:27.940And there was a number of times he screwed up.
00:57:38.820But I mean, you know, you can't we know that you can only legislate your way to block things in the future so much.
00:57:45.380I mean, you can always reverse legislation.
00:57:46.780But if a premier is actually taking the trouble to genuinely apologize, I doubt they're going to want to put themselves back into that circumstance again.
00:57:52.780Yeah. And I don't want to be too hard on Mo, but he hasn't even been a little bit apologetic for his actions.
00:57:59.800He said quite unequivocally, I believe that the vaccines passports have worked.
00:58:05.300I believe that the vaccine passports were the right idea.
00:58:08.140He even said in the press conference that the benefits outweighed the risks of the passports at the time, even though he later admitted that the passports themselves and the vaccines themselves have zero effect on the transmission or spread of the virus.
00:58:21.780So, I mean, this kind of double language that he's invoking is really troubling. And it's it's I mean, he needs he needs to just, you know, as you say, like Ralph Klein did and like other politicians who have the confidence to do so, get up there, apologize to Saskatchewanians, apologize for, you know, putting mandates that have coerced people into getting this jab.
00:58:45.320This is unacceptable. You know, people should have a free choice about what medical treatments that they want to choose in consultation with their doctor.
00:58:53.580They shouldn't be coerced into it on threat of not being able to travel or losing employment or not being able to access certain services.
00:59:02.580Another concern that you pointed out was, of course, there's so much private medical data that's now been spread all over the place.
00:59:09.380And I don't know if that's toothpaste we can get back into the tube.
00:59:12.080I mean, you want to mitigate it and stop it, but I think almost like the firearms registry, too.
00:59:15.880I mean, that data all went out and we know darn well that, you know, it was supposed to be destroyed.
00:59:20.880The RCMP never did. And, you know, it's kind of out there in the world.
00:59:24.700They won't upgrade, update it anymore, but the damage is kind of done.
00:59:28.160What could be done to try and contain some of that data?
00:59:31.680Well, yeah, this is the problem that you kind of highlight, right?
00:59:34.400Once you sort of decide that medical data, people's private medical data can be held by pretty much anybody,
00:59:40.980any employer, any institution, you already are opening a can of worms. What other kind of data
00:59:46.540can my employer have? Can they have data on what religion I follow? Can they have data on my other
00:59:52.700medical history, like my other diseases or other kind of things that I've had? Can they have data
00:59:59.600on people that I know? This is all kind of problematic. I think the privacy legislation
01:00:06.800needs to be shored up so that there are penalties for employers and for people holding on to this
01:00:11.760data longer than is necessary. And I also think that the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code needs to
01:00:17.720have a section that would make medical history its own category. We already protect people on0.64
01:00:24.180the basis of race, on the basis of religion, on the basis of sexual orientation, etc. We need to
01:00:29.900start to protect people on the basis of their medical history. That way, people will not be
01:00:35.900discriminated against based on whether they had a vaccine but whether they don't have a vaccine
01:00:40.500whether they have a mask exemption or not you know people with mask exemptions people with
01:00:45.580legitimate mask exemptions people who have asthma and so on have been treated like second-class
01:00:50.820citizens they've been forced to wait outside a store while you know somebody comes and gets
01:00:55.540them stuff they can't go inside um you know this again has contributed to the demonization of people
01:01:01.740who have legitimate medical conditions.
01:01:04.620I think this would be a way forward to help protect people.
01:01:45.480And this is where you hit the nail right on the head.
01:01:47.500the government has never, nowhere in Canada, nowhere in the world, no government has ever
01:01:54.320articulated a limiting principle whereby our individual rights can be superseded by these
01:02:01.700vaccination mandates. These vaccination mandates, everybody who's honest will admit that they
01:02:06.640trample over people's individual rights to privacy, to medical non-coercion, to
01:02:13.620non-discrimination. And you can argue, some people might argue, okay, in some cases in emergencies,
01:02:19.480we need to trample over people's rights so that we can protect people. I mean, that's already a
01:02:24.280difficult and a dangerous argument. It's a slippery slope to follow down. But if that's the argument
01:02:29.520that you're making, that you need to put a mandate in place to protect people, what is your limiting
01:02:34.480principle? Are you going to now say that people who have other diseases can't participate in
01:02:41.120society? Are you going to say that people who look a certain way, who have a certain type of
01:02:47.340medical history or a certain kind of ethnicity or a certain kind of sexual orientation can't
01:02:52.480participate in society? I mean, that might seem like a stretch, but it really isn't. I mean,
01:02:56.980what you're essentially saying is that people who have made a certain medical decision are going to
01:03:03.220be isolated from society and we are going to trample over their rights. Why? What is your
01:03:09.400limiting principle where do you draw the line for doing that and no government has articulated where
01:03:16.360that line is if you can draw that line clearly right at least i could respect that at least i
01:03:21.240could say okay fine you have the line there and you guys are you know might maybe petty tyrants
01:03:26.360but at least you've drawn the line nobody has done that they've acted in an arbitrary manner
01:03:31.320um and you know now we see that with even uh with even trudeau uh federally he's refused to speak
01:03:37.880with the truckers who are demanding an end to the vaccination mandates, and he hasn't laid down the
01:03:44.560line whereby he would actually let go of these mandates. Yesterday, there was a vote. The
01:03:50.940Conservative Party, I think Candace Bergen, tabled a motion for the Liberals to end the vaccine0.80
01:03:56.700mandates, or at least put a plan forward to end the mandates. Very moderate, very slight kind of
01:04:02.920motion and they rejected it they rejected it along with the NDP I mean this is not a mature
01:04:08.280government that we're talking about these are people who are petty who are a little bit uh you
01:04:14.160know arrogant and full of themselves and who are actually not following the science Teresa Tam has
01:04:18.920said that you know we need to re-examine these restrictions and throughout Canada we've um we
01:04:24.440look and we see that people are saying you know these vaccination mandates these vaccination
01:04:28.100passports, they don't make sense anymore. Let go of them. And actually, for those of us who are
01:04:34.960following the science more closely, like you have, Corey, and your viewers, we've known that for a
01:04:39.860long time. We've known that for about a year, that this doesn't make any sense. This is just
01:04:45.740an effort at power. And Trudeau has shown that already with his implementation of the
01:04:53.280Emergency Measures Act as well. Yeah. I mean, the numbers are coming in. We can't pretend we're
01:04:58.360in the first few months of this any longer. And I mean, if I could see a demonstration of efficacy
01:05:03.380from these measures and these intrusions in our lives, I still probably wouldn't like it because
01:05:08.360I don't like the government intruding in any part, but I would be a little more comfortable
01:05:12.280if we could see that, hey, every place that's brought in these passports or these travel
01:05:16.520restrictions has found that infections and deaths dramatically dropped and it's effective and long
01:05:22.100term, not just a hiccup or a dip in the chart. But we're not seeing that. We're not seeing that
01:05:26.400at all. And as you said, it's like Johns Hopkins. We're not talking about YouTube University.
01:05:29.800We're talking about solid accredited individuals are coming out and saying, look, we've looked at
01:05:35.380the data, we've looked at things now, and these just aren't effective. Yet we have a government
01:05:39.360who insists on clinging to these mandates to the point of invoking the Emergencies Act. It's insane.
01:05:46.100Absolutely. And you know, even early on in 2020, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University,
01:05:51.160Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University, Sunitra Gupta of Oxford University, David Katz of Yale,
01:05:57.280a whole bunch of leading epidemiologists and scholars were saying that lockdowns are not
01:06:03.300going to work to battle COVID. What you need is focused protection of the elderly, people who are
01:06:08.360who have pre-existing conditions, people who are going to get very sick and end up in the ICU.
01:06:13.700You need to focus your protection on that and let everybody else live their lives normally,
01:06:18.520give them information that they can use to protect themselves. But other than that, don't trample down on society, don't trample down on individual rights, let people live their lives normally. And, you know, many people, you know, you talk to people and, and many people don't know that these top scholars have said that lockdowns don't work that, you know, vaccination mandates, vaccination passports are just overly coercive.
01:06:42.900Even Martin Kullorf has recently said that in the Brownstone Institute. It's absurd now that universities in Canada, across Canada, who should actually be following the science are rejecting the science and are asking their students and their staff and their faculty to be vaccinated in order to be present on campus.
01:07:02.760It's absolutely crazy, including my own university, Brock University, which is one of the most stringent vaccination mandates in this country and has actually gone after professors and students who refuse to give in to their vaccination mandate or disclose their private medical information.
01:07:21.700These are universities not following the science.
01:07:24.360And I really I really fear for the future of academia.
01:07:29.200Yeah, well, I fear for a lot of things.
01:07:31.580we're in such a crazed time, but hopefully we can start coming out in the right direction.
01:07:34.880And I appreciate your writing, I think, in a proactive way. It's again, saying, okay,
01:07:38.620we're not going to say, you know, everything's done. We're back to normal. Once these are dropped,
01:07:42.560we need to follow through and we need to follow up and we need to make sure this doesn't happen
01:07:47.960again and make sure we've learned from it. So where else can we find information on what you're
01:07:52.740doing? And do you write for any other publications or things like that? Well, I write occasionally,
01:07:56.820but my website is corneliuschristian.com and you can find me there. Okay, excellent. And you're
01:08:02.740at Brock University. Well, I appreciate that, Cornelius. I hope we get some more guest columns
01:08:06.580out of you soon and hope we can talk again on the show sometime. Thank you for having me, Corey.
01:08:10.720All right. Thank you very much. So yeah, isn't it nice to get, I think we've had two guests in a
01:08:15.880row with some nice heavy doses of common sense out there. I think we were all very overdue for it.
01:08:20.420And I really appreciated Mr. Christian's column that came out. Again, you know, just
01:08:26.700let's examine things. Let's set aside the rhetoric. Let's set aside the ideology and just start
01:08:31.100looking at things and don't let these politicians off the hook just because they've backed off on
01:08:35.160the mandates. I mean, we're going to start talking about running up, screaming with the pitchforks,
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01:09:48.120through some more of the news going on. Oh, I don't want to talk about my old buddy, old Gil
01:09:51.900McGowan, you know, the, the head of the Alberta Federation of Labor. And he's been there a long
01:09:56.220time. Boy, you really get to know Gil. You realize that it kind of like the prime ministership. You
01:10:03.160don't have to be all that smart to rise to the top somehow because he's been there quite a while.
01:10:06.940And that guy's not much brighter than a tree stump, but either way we watch him, we watch his
01:10:11.040process. And he's actually, I like to remind people, his role is constitutionally entrenched
01:10:15.620in the NDP. The NDP of Alberta, Rachel Notley's party, has to have a number of Alberta Federation
01:10:23.300of Labor members on their board controlling their party. So Gil McCowan, as goofy as he is,0.72
01:10:29.720is a man of influence, at least in the NDP. So bear that in mind if you're ever considering
01:10:33.760going back to the NDP again. Anyways, Gil took the Alberta government to court. He wanted an
01:10:38.660injunction. You want to know what he was doing for us? You know what that labor leader was doing?
01:10:43.460He wanted to have the courts intervene and force children to wear masks in school.
01:16:22.320You can't just take a little bit of rights away.
01:16:24.520This is opening a floodgate and it's a big one. And I mean, as was pointed out earlier, this has not been done since 1970. We're doing it over some protesters in Ottawa, some truckers. It's just frightening. And I mean, when that was invoked in 1970, they arrested without warrant, without charge, 500 people and held them.