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00:00:30.000 Good morning. Happy Monday. It's February 7th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan.

00:00:43.160 This is the Western Standards daily live show. It comes at 1130 a.m. Mountain Standard Time,

00:00:49.700 Monday to Friday. We cover those news stories as they break, as well as talk to a variety of

00:00:54.960 guests on issues. Comments are always welcome, of course. I see some there. I'll start quickly

00:00:59.900 with one i see beef supreme asking where the video of uh justin trudeau's little brother went

00:01:03.920 that if you look on the western standards youtube channel on the live stuff and scroll down it's

00:01:08.020 still there same with the rumble channel uh if you look around those are in there they didn't

00:01:12.080 disappear it's just uh we're producing a lot of stuff so it kind of drops in the scroll it's that

00:01:16.060 interview by mel risden was was very very popular actually uh good to see you terry and fred and

00:01:22.480 joanne yes we got a good crowd building up to talk today i got guests coming up in a while

00:01:26.940 Franco Teresano, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:01:29.840 He's going to talk about federal spending.

00:01:31.600 I mean, while Ottawa is all crippled up with protests,

00:01:34.200 there still is some kind of business going on in Parliament Hill,

00:01:37.040 and we will eventually hopefully get some kind of budget.

00:01:39.440 Probably won't be pretty, though.

00:01:41.040 Guest after that is going to be Lionel Cambites of Delta Cleantech.

00:01:44.580 We're going to talk about carbon solutions in energy production,

00:01:47.260 you know, carbon capture, things like that,

00:01:49.100 reminding you that we can produce energy and still meet climate targets.

00:01:53.880 You know, this all-or-nothing game being played by Ottawa

00:01:56.540 is not healthy. James Finkbeiner, for those who have been tuning in, he's still down in Cootsie,

00:02:01.000 Elmar from Thunder Bay, and he's going to be giving us updates on what's happening down there.

00:02:05.480 It's still ongoing. It's still changing, and things are going all over the place. Bill 11,

00:02:10.180 I'll talk about that another time. Perhaps there's just so much to cover in the news

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00:02:58.780 little more about what they offer later. Okay, so I'm going to talk about what am I triggered by

00:03:03.280 today? Well, the links that some people are going to in an effort to paint the Truckers for Freedom

00:03:07.300 Convoy as being extreme and dangerous and crazy is just something else. So I'm going to kick this

00:03:13.260 off with a short video to show how desperate some legacy media and activists are. And then I'm

00:03:18.140 going to talk about how effective their efforts have been too so check this video out it's really

00:03:21.080 something he's pretending so yeah that was a counter protester uh to some protests out there

00:03:36.740 as you can see pretended to get hit by a car and lay and play dead in the middle of the road it was

00:03:41.520 ridiculous it's absurd uh this guy's dive made soccer players look like academy award contenders

00:03:46.580 in comparison. It was sad. But it's indicative, again, of the efforts being made to try and smear 0.94

00:03:52.620 the whole movement. This guy was a clumsy attempt. So were some others. So as I drove in today and

00:03:57.940 tortured myself listening to talk radio as I do on the way to work, keep sponsoring and funding

00:04:02.720 us, guys. Maybe we'll get Western Standard Radio going full time so I don't have to listen to that

00:04:05.940 on the way in, but I got to keep up with the issues. And I listened to a report from David

00:04:09.460 Akin, who's a veteran columnist and very experienced, but he was talking and reporting on

00:04:13.860 how an attempted arson allegedly was committed by protesters on an apartment building in Ottawa.

00:04:21.440 This is a rumor that people have been seeing going around all over the place.

00:04:24.960 And, I mean, it's very, very serious.

00:04:28.120 So let's break down, though, what seems to have happened here,

00:04:30.020 because mainstream media members like Aiken and others have been talking about this.

00:04:34.280 But, you know, when you look into this, something doesn't pass the smell test.

00:04:38.320 So this began with a tweet from a fellow who goes by, Matthias Manoz.

00:04:43.300 And here's the tweet here.

00:04:45.220 And he says, yeah, I've been hesitating to post this publicly,

00:04:47.840 but I feel for this, I feel I must, for the safety of Ottawa residents.

00:04:51.700 So here are the facts.

00:04:53.500 Okay, facts indeed.

00:04:54.480 Last night, two arsonists broke through, no, brought, sorry,

00:04:58.480 a full package of fire starter bricks into our building's lobby at 5 a.m.

00:05:02.980 So yes, we had quite an issue.

00:05:04.640 These guys at 5 in the morning brought these fire starter bricks

00:05:07.340 into an apartment building lobby.

00:05:09.180 Now, oddly, this fellow waited 11 hours before tweeting this important information.

00:05:12.360 This is important to note. Most people would perhaps call the police, especially if they

00:05:16.940 cared about the safety of the residents in the building, as this fellow claims to. But then he

00:05:20.820 goes further. So he's starting to show these screen snaps of the building's security cameras.

00:05:25.300 Here he says, we were able to see the building's video footage of the event. Two men in the lobby

00:05:29.420 got in the lobby and began lighting the full package. The image shows a couple fellows in

00:05:34.500 the lobby doing something. He says one of them taped up the door handle so no one could go in

00:05:40.040 out. And he shows this picture of this dastardly deed in action. And this next week, it gets really

00:05:46.300 interesting. This is one of the parts where his story really starts to stink a bit. So as the fire

00:05:52.140 was being lit, and you can see the picture there, those who are watching, you know, those who are

00:05:55.100 listening will describe it. There's a tenant walked by and nervously asked who they were.

00:05:58.860 One admitted they were part of the convoy protests. Wow. This tenant, this tenant then,

00:06:04.360 apparently carried on, went home, up the elevator to his apartment, and just went to bed hoping he

00:06:10.560 wouldn't be burned to death, I guess. He never bothered to call the police either, or pull a fire

00:06:14.260 alarm. Astounding. Astounding. I mean, that guy can really sleep. The apparent arsons, of course,

00:06:20.240 were happy to identify, oh yeah, as a matter of fact, we're convoy participants. Wow, that's

00:06:24.060 interesting. Why am I getting memories of a story where a fake crime was committed by some men who

00:06:28.260 had supposedly yelled, this is MAGA country? I mean, we're really starting to get rumblings of

00:06:33.480 that, aren't we? You know, and then another picture was tweeted showing a fire in the middle of the

00:06:39.040 floor of the lobby. And then you can see a bit of a conflagration beginning there. So something was

00:06:43.200 lit. Something was placed there. And he then states that the arsonist escaped out the side door.

00:06:50.280 Now, I got to wonder, what was the point of taping the door handles shut if there was an open side

00:06:53.640 door right there anyways? But again, arsonists aren't necessarily all that smart. I don't know.

00:06:58.160 But come on, this stinks. 0.95

00:06:59.800 In fact, it reeks. 0.92

00:07:01.520 There is no basis to this.

00:07:03.700 Logic's lacking on a number of levels here.

00:07:06.280 Then finishes off with a tweet stating,

00:07:08.160 a good Samaritan cut through the tape and put out the flames,

00:07:10.880 thus saving potentially hundreds from a burning fate.

00:07:14.840 There's no footage of that part, by the way.

00:07:18.160 And again, the good Samaritan, like everybody else,

00:07:20.340 didn't feel that this was worthy of calling the police or the fire department over.

00:07:23.560 The tweet went wild, the whole thread.

00:07:26.420 It went viral.

00:07:26.960 it's been shared and seen by hundreds of thousands of people now. One of the first

00:07:30.440 respondents in the thread was an Ottawa arson investigator, actually, who hadn't heard a thing

00:07:34.140 about it until he saw it on Twitter. Let's get real. You know, it stinks. It should be taken

00:07:38.620 seriously by the authorities, of course. The world's a weird place. There could indeed be a

00:07:43.460 pair of purple-haired arsonists intent upon burning hundreds of people as they sleep.

00:07:48.980 So it looks really unlikely at this point, though. And if you look through the past tweets from Mr.

00:07:52.720 Manoz, it can be seen that he's been hysterically complaining about the trucker's convoy for a

00:07:56.940 week already. His motivations might be a little suspect here. Fraudsters aren't often eager to

00:08:02.420 call police as investigators may actually expose their fraud. Time will tell if anything real ever

00:08:08.220 becomes of this incident. I mean, what's disturbing though is the legacy media reporting on a Twitter

00:08:13.200 rumor like this. I mean, if this is true, if this really happened as he's laid it out, this could

00:08:18.720 have been one of the worst attempted acts of domestic terrorism in Canadian history. It could

00:08:22.680 have killed hundreds. But it's more than a little irresponsible to give any credence to something

00:08:27.340 like this until we've at least heard from investigators, and this clown didn't even call 0.95

00:08:30.180 the cops. It's too late now, though. The MSN has also already, you know, and some members tried to 0.95

00:08:35.180 spread the story through Twitter and even reported a bit online. But that was just the one story.

00:08:39.480 It doesn't stop there. The weekend was busy, as we all know. A fake hate crime was committed and

00:08:44.300 widely shared. This was even more shared by politicians and media like over the weekend.

00:08:48.300 self-styled anti-hate crusader

00:08:50.720 Bernie Farber tweeted out 0.84

00:08:52.580 an image of a repugnant anti-Semitic

00:08:54.840 poster, and he claimed it had been distributed

00:08:56.360 throughout the convoy by protesters

00:08:58.380 Farber has been a

00:09:00.420 media go-to person to interview as they try

00:09:02.460 to portray the motivations of the convoy

00:09:04.100 protesters as being hate-based for

00:09:06.000 quite some time, he's the anti-hate

00:09:08.380 crusader in Canada, I mean some of the

00:09:10.560 people he goes after are 0.98

00:09:12.520 nasty, odious, hateful people, but 0.81

00:09:14.240 this, this image spread like wildfire 0.99

00:09:16.420 has enraged Politico's activists

00:09:18.000 and media-like decried this terrible poster that the convoyers were spreading around.

00:09:23.060 At least, that is, until they found out the image was actually from a Florida event a couple of weeks ago,

00:09:27.700 as you can see from this tweet from Jonathan Kay.

00:09:30.000 And the media and company went silent, of course.

00:09:32.440 The damage was already done.

00:09:34.860 All it took was a reverse image search in order to find out that this poster didn't come from the convoy at all.

00:09:39.800 But the opponents of the protest were too zealous in their desire to paint this protest as extreme

00:09:43.820 to take that few minutes to do something about it.

00:09:46.500 And I'll give credit where it's due. Jonathan Kaye's been holding the members' feet to the fire over this and calling them out.

00:09:51.720 If you're on Twitter, check him out, at John Kaye, J-O-N-K-A-Y.

00:09:55.260 Look at his threads, because he called out the media members and retweeted them over and over, and politicians,

00:10:00.160 because they shared this baloney story of hatred being spread at the convoy.

00:10:05.780 And Kaye is an established journalist. He's the son of Barbara Kaye, actually, who contributes columns to the Western Standard here.

00:10:12.260 He is rather Jewish as well, so I doubt he would want to discredit any real acts of anti-Semitism.

00:10:18.680 But the fake news just keeps pouring out from the legacy media on the convoy protests.

00:10:23.260 We're doing our best here to at least counter it.

00:10:25.720 So we're watching for that. 0.87

00:10:27.120 Report this garbage when it comes up, because come on, there's a lot happening, 0.90

00:10:30.500 and we need to get the real facts out there. 0.97

00:10:33.000 I mean, things are getting tense out there, but let's base our actions on reality

00:10:36.480 and fake reports of extremism and hatred being spread

00:10:40.380 and potentially fake arsons is not helping.

00:10:43.980 That's making people afraid, it's irresponsible, it's dangerous, and it has to stop.

00:10:49.720 Now I'm going to talk to a responsible news writer, Dave Naylor,

00:10:53.240 our news editor here at the Western Standard,

00:10:56.720 to check in on other news as it's going.

00:10:58.300 How's it going, Dave?

00:10:59.380 Good, Corey. How was your weekend?

00:11:01.340 It was pretty good. I went to a protest in Calgary.

00:11:03.760 It was actually a good one for a change.

00:11:06.020 Got some rest, shoveled the walk, cleaned the chicken coop, all that good stuff.

00:11:10.180 Yeah, our columnist, Mike Thomas, wrote about the weekend once, said it was a huge family affair.

00:11:17.100 Yeah, it was. Dogs and kids and very, there were even people selling like eggs and pickles there, all sorts of things.

00:11:24.200 You would think you were at a local fair rather than a protest, except there were thousands of people and lots of Canadian flags.

00:11:31.720 Awesome. Well, it's all truckers all the time for the newsroom this morning, as it has been all weekend. Holy cow.

00:11:39.460 uh let's move on from the weekend you can go back and look at all the copy there if you like but

00:11:45.300 just today ottawa police have held a press conference where their their chief has said

00:11:50.260 they are relentlessly quote unquote gonna go after trucker money you remember on friday cory that the

00:11:56.660 gofundme was uh was frozen at nine million dollars after ottawa police went to them and said please

00:12:03.060 stop so the gofundme froze it but of course truckers started fundraising or people wanting

00:12:10.100 to help them started fundraising on other websites and they've raised millions and millions of dollars

00:12:15.460 already so the ottawa police chief is is vowing to to go relentlessly after their money there

00:12:22.740 uh some uh liberal cabinet ministers are holding a press conference as we speak

00:12:28.500 the public service minister has admitted or not admitted but has said 275 more rcmp officers are

00:12:35.940 being dispatched to ottawa uh the ottawa police chief says uh they're on the breaking point

00:12:42.340 there with officers working two weeks straight of 12 hours a day and in minus 20 uh minus 20

00:12:48.740 temperatures the uh truckers themselves held a press conference last night basically saying we

00:12:55.700 will endure we will never leave until a result has been met so our reporter eva's got that story up

00:13:06.420 up on the site already and uh the justice center has fired a warning shot at ottawa police

00:13:13.220 uh on sunday the police said they were going to arrest anybody that uh tries to bring supplies

00:13:20.580 or gasoline to the convoy jccf lawyers have sent a letter to ottawa police saying they will be the

00:13:26.820 ones breaking the law and uh warn them against against doing it other stuff for people not

00:13:34.740 interested in truckers are you still interested in covet well our health authorities uh dr theresa

00:13:41.700 tam the top doctor in canada says get ready because we're going to have a sixth wave and then a seventh

00:13:47.380 wave of covid that could be even more severe than than the ones we've had now and she's urging those

00:13:54.660 who aren't vaccinated to uh to go out and get vaccinated so it doesn't look like we're going

00:13:59.380 to be out of the covid bubble anytime soon uh our friends of the canadian taxpayers federation uh

00:14:06.500 franco teresano who you'll be talking to shortly uh the ctf has come up with a plan to uh eliminate

00:14:13.860 the debt 50 years earlier than the liberals uh plan to so that'll be interesting and uh speaking

00:14:21.540 of the mainstream media the toronto star canada's largest newspaper is pleading for more taxpayers

00:14:28.740 cash uh they'd uh already took about 60 million dollars i think last year and they they're

00:14:34.980 pleading for even more so uh there you go corey do you think we should send them uh send them

00:14:41.460 some help or what? What's that? That the standard should send help to the star, perhaps? I know the

00:14:48.580 taxpayers are probably done with it. Maybe we can advise them how to run a business.

00:14:52.580 That would be an interesting way to go about it. I mean, Neil, it really does play into a lot,

00:14:57.060 though, when we get a little questionable about some of the coverage that we're seeing of things

00:15:00.660 like the convoy and pandemic and whether or not it did impact some of those publications,

00:15:05.940 it's hard to say, but it reduces their credibility when they suddenly seem to be

00:15:09.860 marching the government line on on issues and of course they're dependent on funding direct from

00:15:13.860 the government i don't think people understand just how dangerous that road is no you don't see

00:15:17.780 too many msm articles actually you know really getting to the bottom of why these truckers are

00:15:23.780 there it's uh it's mainly fear and loathing stuff from them yeah well we got a lot breaking in alberta

00:15:30.420 too but we're still waiting on i guess with the the kenny government perhaps discussing debating

00:15:34.980 thinking about kind of changing some regulations in the near future.

00:15:39.300 Yeah. The supposedly meeting this afternoon, whether or not they'll announce anything

00:15:44.820 remains to be seen, but if they do, you can be sure we'll be on it, Corey.

00:15:49.260 You bet. Well, I'll let you get back to that coverage. The news is just breaking like mad

00:15:53.460 lately. So carry on and well, we'll look forward to talking to you after the show, Dave.

00:15:58.260 Thanks, Corey.

00:15:59.400 Thanks. So yeah, just lots and lots going all over the place. So be sure to go to

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00:16:49.320 They realize it's well worth it. Tracy Moss has asked a couple of times, yeah, about how to share

00:16:54.300 this on Facebook. If you're watching it on Facebook, I believe it's shareable. There should

00:16:57.680 be a share button on there. If not, you know, you go to the Western Standard page on Facebook

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00:17:06.420 if you're watching it on YouTube or Rumble. We're broadcasting live to all of those right now.

00:17:11.480 And you can paste that into your Facebook page as well. And there's, yeah, the more people we can

00:17:16.820 reach, the better, you know. And if you want to get to me, I see Nico's put that up there at

00:17:20.680 Corey B. Morgan for that's where I get rolling on Twitter. If you want to see some interaction

00:17:25.020 and ranting out of me, that's one of my favorite areas for it. So by all means, follow me there

00:17:28.820 and you can send me your love or hate or whatever you've got on things. I enjoy all of it. So I'm

00:17:36.100 going to be up to our guest Franco pretty soon here. And yeah, so I like giving an update on

00:17:40.520 that. You know, I don't have the link handy right now, but the fundraising, it's been interesting

00:17:44.660 too, with the battles against the convoy and they thought they'd scored this fantastic victory and

00:17:50.280 they shut down the GoFundMe page and there, this is going to stop them. This is going to hold them

00:17:54.500 up. Well, it just sprouted up into a new one that raised, I believe at this point, over $5 million

00:17:59.280 in three days once the exchange is taken into account. So whatever happens to this convoy and

00:18:04.440 the police are getting pretty worked up and they're pushing, but it's not going to be for

00:18:08.500 lack of money that this convoy comes to an end. And it's quite obviously broadly supported by a

00:18:14.560 lot of people. They don't want to let this go. Again, this is absolutely no discourse, no effort

00:18:20.680 whatsoever on the part of the government to talk to the protesters. This is dangerous,

00:18:24.800 it's terrible, and it's going to lead to a bad end. So we had the Ottawa police getting up there,

00:18:30.000 getting stirred up, going off about how he's going to get the RCMP and how they're going to

00:18:36.180 force these people off the hill, which could lead to some very unfortunate situations. I sure hope

00:18:41.160 it doesn't. But it's just absurd that they haven't even tried to negotiate before they hit this step.

00:18:46.460 This is dead wrong. And when we have the mayor of Ottawa going on about, oh my God, they got bouncy castles. Oh, the horror. I can't imagine if we let unchecked bouncy castles sprout up across the country. Oh, where have we gone? What has happened to our democracy if we're allowing unchecked flow of bouncy castles and jacuzzis and protests?

00:19:11.540 No, we got a real bad situation. Our government isn't recognizing the right to protest and it could become dangerous. I really hope it doesn't. I mean, if they cut the fuel off like they're talking about and cut the supplies off, all you're going to have is a bunch of cold stalled trucks that still block everything. There's not any tow trucks who want to move them. If you know about caging brakes, there's things the truckers can do that'll make those trucks a hell of a lot harder to move as well. You're going to be plugged up for weeks anyways. The only way you're going to move those trucks easily is getting the driver to turn it on and drive out. And that takes negotiation.

00:19:41.540 not law enforcement. So I hope some reasonable minds prevail. We're not seeing any signs of it.

00:19:46.760 And Trudeau, of course, being the coward he is, is still in hiding. What kind of leadership is 0.98

00:19:51.020 this? Get out there and talk to them. You don't have to stand in person face to face with them.

00:19:55.500 You don't have to go squat in the teepee with them like you did with the fake hunger strike 0.97

00:19:59.540 by Teresa Spence or some of the other virtue signaling crap. You don't have to kneel among 0.87

00:20:03.280 them. But you can at least acknowledge we have a large number of Canadians upset with something

00:20:08.240 and they need to be heard and you've got to take them seriously and you've got to respect them.

00:20:12.120 But hiding and trying to throw law enforcement at them is not working. It's only going to make

00:20:16.840 it worse, Trudeau. You're a pathetic leader and you're going to cause very big problems. History 1.00

00:20:20.960 is not going to smile on your time in here. Okay, enough out of me. I'm going to bring Franco

00:20:24.380 Terrizano in. He's a little less ranty right now. A little less anyways. And we are going to talk

00:20:30.320 about, well, the federal budget, speaking of Trudeau and spending. So let's get Franco up

00:20:35.240 there. Hey, how are you doing, Franco? Hey, Corey. Always a pleasure to be on the show with you.

00:20:39.580 Yeah, thanks. You're a good regular guest. But like I said, I just like having people on who

00:20:43.360 are looking to keep more money and control in my pocket rather than so many others with

00:20:47.600 organizations that are always asking for more. So it's refreshing to have you guys from the

00:20:51.320 Taxpayers Federation on regularly. Well, hey, it's our pleasure to come on. And, you know,

00:20:55.720 I was just speaking to the finance committee. They invited the CTF to present our budget

00:21:00.460 recommendations. And that was one of the points that I made. I said, hey, look, we understand

00:21:04.600 that you're going to be hearing from hundreds of individuals and groups asking for more money. Well,

00:21:09.760 here at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, we're coming representing taxpayers, Coast O's,

00:21:14.120 asking for less money being spent in the next budget. Yeah, that's a strange, you must have

00:21:19.100 put them in for a shock. I mean, I guess credit where due, I'm glad they had you in to make a

00:21:23.720 presentation and speak to them. So maybe in a nutshell, you know, what budget presentations

00:21:28.360 have you guys, I mean, I know you sent me the document and it's pretty inclusive, but I mean,

00:21:33.260 you know, for the viewers, where are your main targets in this?

00:21:36.740 Well, that's, that's a good question.

00:21:38.300 So we have this 70 page report essentially on, on where the government can find all these

00:21:43.560 savings, but the, the high level, the key takeaway is that we have outlined a path to

00:21:48.980 actually balance the federal budget in 2023.

00:21:52.560 So in a few years, and what that would take is quite frankly, very modest spending restraint.

00:21:59.140 So we're saying we show that the federal government could balance its budget by bringing its spending back down to pre-pandemic levels, which, by the way, Corey, were all-time highs.

00:22:10.680 In 2018, before the pandemic, before a cross-Canada recession, the federal government was spending more in 2018 than it did during any single year during World War II.

00:22:20.960 So we're saying, hey, look, balanced budgets are extremely important, right?

00:22:24.500 It means less debt for Canadians' kids and grandkids to pay back.

00:22:27.880 It means less money wasted to the bond fund managers just to pay for interest costs.

00:22:33.240 And it means we can avoid tax hikes.

00:22:35.440 And all this government has to do to balance the budget is to bring its spending back to pre-pandemic levels.

00:22:42.740 Yeah, and I mean, the pandemic, I don't know, the government seems in love with it.

00:22:45.920 They don't want to back off on any moves or anything they've done with it.

00:22:49.080 But as you brought up, and we've been fortunate, I guess, in a sense,

00:22:52.400 But it's almost enabled this taking on of debt and deficit with these low interest rates right now.

00:22:58.780 But I mean, the big push to get our budgets back in balance in the 90s was due to the fact that we could see those numbers showing that we were spending almost as much on interest payments as we were in every other expenditure combined.

00:23:08.920 And people got upset.

00:23:10.140 But right now, they're not quite seeing that.

00:23:11.720 But as you said, there's a lot going out on interest to fund managers and such.

00:23:16.260 It's money down the toilet as far as taxpayers are concerned.

00:23:19.340 Yeah, that's absolutely correct.

00:23:20.400 So there's a few things that I want to touch there.

00:23:22.400 Let's start with the interest charges next year, $26 billion, $26 billion lost just in interest

00:23:28.680 charges federally. Of course, that's billions of dollars, Corey, that can't hire more nurses that

00:23:33.380 can't build more hospitals that can't stay in our own pockets, uh, to, to help put food on the table,

00:23:38.280 to make sure the kids get to hockey practice because that $26 billion is, is, is going to

00:23:42.960 Bay street. Right. Um, but what's I think so scary right now is something that you were touching on.

00:23:49.060 what happens if interest rates tick up? What happens if Canada stumbles into another downturn?

00:23:55.400 Now, I just talked about the CTF's proposal, which is balance the budget in 2023. Well,

00:24:00.720 according to the parliamentary budget officer under the federal government's current trajectory,

00:24:05.520 we wouldn't see a balanced budget until 2070. Corey, and if that happens, we would lose out

00:24:11.220 on $3.8 trillion, $3.8 trillion just in debt interest charges, right? So that is, as you say,

00:24:18.460 money down the drain. But Corey, the last thing I wanted to touch on that you brought up is this

00:24:24.200 pandemic. And what we have seen is we've seen Prime Minister Justin Trudeau use the cloud of

00:24:30.440 COVID-19 to go on a debt-fueled spending binge. And here's what I mean by that. In his last budget,

00:24:36.180 his plan was to increase permanent, permanent federal government spending by more than $100

00:24:41.520 billion by 2026. And that's on top of spending, which was already all-time highs before the

00:24:49.000 pandemic. Yeah, it's insane. When is the timeline actually for the federal budget in Ottawa this

00:24:55.400 year, roughly? We're expecting it to come sometime March or April. Okay. So, I mean,

00:25:00.820 now is the time to start talking about it and pushing how we can. I mean, I would hope if we

00:25:06.260 start, again, everything kind of ties together. I think maybe we're hitting a tipping point if we

00:25:09.920 can start backing off on the pandemic regulations and such. That means we don't have to keep

00:25:15.880 subsidizing and transferring money to businesses and individuals. That's where you can find that

00:25:20.200 room to get back to pre-pandemic spending. And that clock's ticking. Hopefully we can get to

00:25:25.520 that point in the next month or two, though. I imagine they're already starting to fill out

00:25:29.280 their bloated ledgers, though. Well, Corey, one of the things that we've seen, which has really

00:25:34.120 been the big issue here with this explosion of federal government debt, is that we haven't seen

00:25:39.120 the federal government prioritize, right? It's not like what happens with families or businesses

00:25:44.280 when they have to deal with something urgent. In the real world, what does a family or business do?

00:25:48.660 Well, if they have to spend a little bit more money here, then they have to find some savings

00:25:52.120 elsewhere in their budget. But we haven't seen that from the federal government. Essentially,

00:25:55.600 what we've seen from Ottawa is that we'll just spend more money on everything forever. But of

00:26:00.660 course, that is not financial reality. That is not how you're supposed to budget. So I think that's

00:26:06.800 really the concern even setting aside the the mass amount of money that's been spent on the

00:26:10.920 pandemic i mean cory the feds have already thrown out about 511 billion dollars just in terms of

00:26:17.180 lockdown subsidies but even setting that aside we were able to identify about 30 billion dollars

00:26:23.520 in annual savings uh and then also about 23 billion dollars in one-time savings

00:26:29.040 Yeah. And I mean, where's the atmosphere, I guess, is the hard part. We have other concerns too. We've got a carbon tax approaching us in April. I mean, are you seeing much indications that the government's counting on more revenue coming in through taxation? That's that ideological battle that always goes on. You know, you would rather see spending restraint. A lot of government would rather just say, well, we can just keep taking more and then we can come closer to a balanced budget that way.

00:26:57.080 Aside from the carbon tax, any other signs of tax increases coming down the pipe?

00:27:01.600 Yeah, carbon tax, as you mentioned, going up for the third time during the pandemic in April to 11 cents per litre.

00:27:07.140 But of course, Trudeau doesn't want to stop there, right?

00:27:09.520 He eventually wants his carbon tax to soak drivers for nearly 40 cents per litre of gas by 2030.

00:27:16.560 Now, in addition to that carbon tax core, we're also hearing about a second carbon tax that Trudeau is burying in fuel regulations

00:27:24.200 that will also come in, I believe, December 2022, that could add about 11 cents per liter to the

00:27:29.700 gas, to the price of gas. Now, on top of these carbon taxes, which are so damaging to so many

00:27:35.440 Canadian drivers, and obviously we need it, it hurts us when we try to heat our homes. But in

00:27:41.260 addition to that, we've also seen booze taxes going up, Corey. So let's say you had a tough

00:27:46.320 week at the office, maybe your kids are driving you nuts, and you just want to have a bottle of

00:27:50.280 Pinot Noir with your spouse. Well, even the government is shoving their hands deeper into

00:27:56.180 your pockets there. But also, Corey, payroll taxes are going up in 2022. If you're making about $65,000

00:28:03.140 this year, you're going to pay nearly $400 extra just in payroll taxes in 2022.

00:28:10.860 Yeah. And then those taxes often have something of a matching scheme. So that's going to come

00:28:15.180 out of the businesses that pay those as well, I imagine. So again, we just keep beating down and

00:28:19.880 beating down on, on enterprise. I mean, these are the people that are driving our country right now

00:28:23.740 or should be. And, uh, you know, they just don't seem to understand if, if you increase a great

00:28:29.520 amount of the expenses for a business, they're going to lay people off or they're going to raise

00:28:32.540 prices or both. Let's talk about those raising prices because it fits into what you were talking

00:28:37.300 about before. Like where is the political environment here? Well, one of the key issues

00:28:41.500 facing Canadian families right now is inflation, right? You go to the fuel pump, you fuel up,

00:28:47.620 Then you got to check your bank account to make sure you can afford that family value pack of ground beef at the grocery store.

00:28:53.700 I mean, people are getting absolutely soaked here.

00:28:56.280 And there's two ways that our federal government is making these tough times tougher.

00:29:00.700 Number one is the tax hikes, right?

00:29:02.200 We've already talked about that.

00:29:04.320 We've seen politicians in other countries, South Korea, Spain, France, many American states are reducing taxes while Ottawa is increasing taxes.

00:29:13.960 That's not a winning formula for us Canadians.

00:29:16.340 but also we have to talk about the printing press the bank of canada has created 370 billion dollars

00:29:24.440 plus franco your your sound is kind of breaking a little as your mic get a little loose on the

00:29:29.000 plug in there perhaps or let me check okay how does this sound are we good good yeah just a

00:29:34.500 little that crackling sounds like a loose uh i do it all the time oh no okay so that last sentence

00:29:39.260 again. I think you had me ranting on the Bank of Canada, didn't you? Yeah. So $370 billion

00:29:46.380 printed out of thin air. So here is really the inflation problem is that you have this government

00:29:52.000 who is printing dollars out of thin air, but obviously a government can't just go around

00:29:56.680 printing homes and printing farmland out of thin air, right? So you have the classic problem where

00:30:02.020 you've got too many dollars chasing too few goods. And here's how our politicians are really

00:30:07.140 driving up the cost of living in Canada. Yeah, well, and another area, we talked about that the

00:30:13.940 last time I had you on, but it still just keeps coming up. And I wouldn't be shocked to see them

00:30:18.060 start sliding towards it. Of course, it's the home equity tax. They keep floating. I talked to

00:30:22.260 Chris about that the other week, but I mean, it still keeps looming in the background.

00:30:28.060 And there's some of the bizarre economic thinking of some people who advise government, though,

00:30:32.280 when they say, if we can raise taxes on houses, we'll somehow bring down the price of them.

00:30:36.100 what the heck is that? What is this going to be the first tax hike in history that actually

00:30:40.580 lowers prices? Like, come on, right? I mean, what does a carbon tax do? It increases the price of

00:30:46.180 fuel. What does a sales tax do? It means every time you go to the till, you got to pay a little

00:30:50.920 bit extra. So that's exactly what this home tax would do as well. And Corey, even the report

00:30:56.520 authors who are recommending this new type of home tax, even they acknowledge 50 pages into their

00:31:02.700 own report that a home tax would, surprise, surprise, be taxed, tacked on to the listing

00:31:07.840 price. But Corey, a home equity tax is something that we're very worried about. You have these

00:31:13.720 politicians in Ottawa that are essentially tripping over themselves, trying to figure

00:31:17.480 out how they're going to pay their massive debts. And let's, here's how a home equity tax would

00:31:21.920 impact someone. Let's say your parents or grandparents bought their home in Toronto

00:31:25.720 for about $250,000 in 1980. Well, if they wanted to sell their home today, let's say 1.2 million,

00:31:32.700 their home equity tax bill would cost them between $51,000 all the way up to $190,000.

00:31:41.220 So a home equity tax would be taking tens of thousands of dollars from our parents and from

00:31:47.800 our grandparents who need that money to help fund the retirement years. And that's just outright

00:31:53.120 robbery. It really is, you know, and some of the tone I brought that up too, because I read that

00:31:58.280 report, the politics, I mean, there's a lot of politics packed into it. Well, that is such as

00:32:02.160 life, you know, but the politics of envy, they were calling it a windfall. They were calling

00:32:05.800 a lottery win. They talked about people building equity while they laid around on the couch and

00:32:10.920 watched TV. That's the tone of a report for a government report. I mean, that doesn't sound

00:32:17.220 like somebody with an economics basis. It sounds more like an envy basis. And that's not what I

00:32:21.220 want to form policy based on. Well, isn't that the truth? Hey, and I think what's just boils my

00:32:26.920 blood uh it probably makes you so upset but you know i think about i think about someone who's

00:32:32.560 like my mom right she she raised me uh she raised my younger brother and sister uh i mean at many

00:32:39.280 times she was a single mom raising my younger brother and sister now she finally has her own

00:32:44.400 home in southern alberta and it just absolutely drives me up the wall to think that you have

00:32:49.540 these bureaucrats funding research that would go after hard-working canadians uh like my mom like

00:32:56.420 like many Canadians, like their parents, like their grandparents, it absolutely just boils my

00:33:01.320 blood. And it's so frustrating to know that the federal government is using $250,000 of our own

00:33:08.580 tax dollars to dream up new ways to hammer Canadian homeowners. And Corey, before I rant

00:33:14.420 too long on this, we have to remember both the liberals and the conservatives, they both just

00:33:19.860 spent the last election saying they wouldn't come after our homes. But I don't think we should

00:33:23.600 believe their talk, right? I don't trust them as far as I could throw them and I don't think I

00:33:27.860 could throw them that far. So what we really need to see is we really need to see concrete action

00:33:33.320 and the concrete action from these politicians would be to remove the requirement to report the

00:33:39.040 sale of our homes with the tax bureaucrats. If the CRA isn't going to come after our Canadian

00:33:44.980 homeowners, then why do they need to know how much Canadians sold their home for?

00:33:50.300 Speaking of red flags, I think it was 2017 when they started asking for that, or it's been a few years, but I mean, you have no reason to know that information.

00:33:57.500 It doesn't matter, but you can be fined if you don't provide it to them.

00:34:00.320 And that's, of course, usually the government always comes with the heavy hand of the law behind them.

00:34:04.480 Yeah, I mean, this is the slippery slope that we've been hearing about.

00:34:08.460 I know you had my colleague Renault on to talk about the VAX tax.

00:34:12.000 I mean, you know, thankfully, taxpayers got a win.

00:34:14.780 And we don't hear about too many taxpayer wins these days, at least during the last two years.

00:34:19.480 But we did get a win in Quebec where Legault acknowledged that he made the wrong decision.

00:34:26.220 And thankfully, he's stepping away from that vaccine tax.

00:34:29.160 But, Corey, it really just follows a clear trend where it seems like every so-called solution that politicians and bureaucrats have is to just hammer Canadians with higher taxes, right?

00:34:41.680 They want us to drive less trucks, so they hammer us with a carbon tax.

00:34:45.640 A carbon tax doesn't work.

00:34:47.300 Emissions continue to rise.

00:34:48.760 What do they do?

00:34:49.720 They hammer us with a higher carbon tax, maybe even a second carbon tax.

00:34:53.600 And we were just talking about it.

00:34:55.540 Bureaucrats want home prices to go down.

00:34:58.080 So what do they do? 1.00

00:34:59.200 They fund research to come after homeowners with a new tax.

00:35:02.660 It really is so unfortunate that it seems like the only solution these politicians and

00:35:07.360 bureaucrats can dream up are, well, just hammer their neighbors with a higher bill.

00:35:11.680 Yeah, they really need a bigger toolbox to deal with challenges out there. And again, it was good pointing out, though, they see they will and they can back down at times. And we saw it in Quebec. And this can happen federally. I mean, it's up to us. It's up to organizations like you guys. We've got to keep nagging them, though. I mean, if they can get away with it, they will. So where can we find information about what you're up to and read that whole report if people want to and such?

00:35:33.940 Well, please, hey, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Facebook, Taxpayer.com.

00:35:37.900 But that's also our website, too.

00:35:39.400 So just type in Taxpayer.com.

00:35:41.140 You can go sign some petitions.

00:35:42.760 That would be fantastic.

00:35:43.700 But also check out our newsroom.

00:35:45.440 And that's where the report is.

00:35:47.720 Great.

00:35:48.140 Well, thanks for coming on to talk to me today, Franco.

00:35:50.540 And thanks for keeping on the case of the government.

00:35:52.580 Hopefully, we can drive a little bit of reason into them anyways.

00:35:55.940 I mean, it's never enough, but you've got to do what we can.

00:35:58.940 Hey, man, it's always a pleasure.

00:36:00.280 Thanks for having me on.

00:36:01.440 Right on.

00:36:01.800 Thanks.

00:36:02.040 We'll talk soon.

00:36:03.380 So yes, that was Franco Teresano of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. And yeah, they're a great group. I mean, as I said, there's so few, every group has their own cause and things. And typically, though, they're, they're asking for more and more. And the Taxpayers Federation is asking as far as taxes go and government size for less and less, which is what we really need. So that's why I like having them on. They, as he said, he's almost that lone voice at budget deliberations trying to say, please spend less, you know, and we're in such a insane time between the pandemic and now the convoy protests.

00:36:33.380 and everything else going on, it's so easy to forget that our government is spending like mad

00:36:38.820 and we are going to be in debt for generations over this. We have to keep them in check. Phone

00:36:44.280 your MLAs, phone your MPs, all of them, every level of government's doing this. Us, on the other

00:36:48.940 hand, as I pointed out before, we are not funded by taxpayers whatsoever. We rely on you guys and

00:36:54.440 your memberships and on our sponsors. So I'm going to speak to our next sponsor here, speaking of

00:36:58.640 rights, and that's the Canada Shooting Sports Association. These guys have been sponsoring us

00:37:03.580 for some time. Their name kind of says it all with them. They're a shooting sports association for

00:37:08.060 firearm owners, whether you're a target shooter, a collector, a hunter, any of those things. They

00:37:14.500 have all sorts of resources on their website, you know, as an association would for whether it's

00:37:18.120 different forums or YouTube videos on safe use of firearms, legal use of firearms. That's what we

00:37:22.880 want. Nobody's pushing unsafe use of firearms. Though, again, the opponents to Canadians having

00:37:29.440 the ability to use and enjoy firearms try to almost always paint legal firearm owners as

00:37:34.360 criminals. So these guys are pushing back on your behalf because we know the Liberals,

00:37:37.840 this government is always trying to take them away and they've got more acts and orders in

00:37:43.360 council coming. They're constantly illegalizing more firearms, trying to seize more firearms.

00:37:47.100 The Canada Shooting Sports Association has multiple court challenges, legal challenges on

00:37:52.320 behalf of firearm owners, they're helping push back. It's like I was talking with Franco, or it's

00:37:56.620 like I talked about with the truckers. We need to stand up for ourselves, or the government will

00:38:00.400 walk all over us. So check these guys out. Canada Shooting Sports Association, their website is

00:38:05.060 cssa-cila.org. Take out a membership with them, help them so they can help you, so you can continue

00:38:13.160 to legally and safely enjoy firearms as you should be able to, or choose not to. You know,

00:38:19.820 there's, you know, I'm so off of the sponsor thing. I mean, that's what I get with these

00:38:22.940 politics. Even if you aren't into firearms, can you not at least appreciate the right of somebody

00:38:28.440 else to go out and enjoy them? There's so much of that that goes on, you know, whether it's the

00:38:33.100 vaccinations too. I've chosen to get vaccinated, but I absolutely stand up for the right of somebody

00:38:38.840 to choose not to. Why are we always worried about what the other person does? I can enjoy and

00:38:44.720 support different things while enjoying and supporting the right of other people to do

00:38:47.940 different things as well. But we're in this black and white world where it's divided and has to be

00:38:52.500 all one way or all the other. And what a tense, stressful, nasty atmosphere we're starting to get

00:38:56.980 into through that. And it's not just firearms, you know, it's, and it's not just a pandemic.

00:39:02.440 It's a general attitude of selfishness. I think, you know, individual rights, guys, individual

00:39:07.460 rights, as long as you are allowed as an individual to do what you like, don't worry about what the

00:39:11.440 other person does. And the other person is worried about me. Hey, piss off. I'm doing what I do. As

00:39:15.720 long as it's not harming you, go away. But we've got this intrusive set of people, this attitude

00:39:21.660 that we can't tolerate other people's doing things. I had a tweet that went out, went kind

00:39:26.380 of viral, I don't know, 13,000, 14,000 likes or something. I just, I throw my tweets out on the

00:39:30.280 way. I threw it out last night, but just putting out, I said to those people who are in favor of

00:39:34.040 lockdowns, you seem to forget that, you know, even once all the restrictions have gone, there's

00:39:37.560 nothing stopping you from cowering and hiding in your house from there on in. It's just true.

00:39:41.780 you don't need the lockdowns. You can hide. You can be paranoid. You can stay there.

00:39:46.420 Nothing's stopping you. So leave us alone. Let us go and get out there and live our lives. We need

00:39:54.700 to be able to. And you know, in light of that sponsorship, I should point out, we have other

00:40:00.320 spaces, you know, some plugging for ourselves while we're at it. You know, we're looking for

00:40:05.280 new sponsors. If you've got a product or a service you want to promote, an event coming up, you think

00:40:10.000 the Western Standard and their audience might be the ones you want to reach out to, hey, send me a

00:40:13.540 note. See Morgan at westernstandardonline.com and let's talk. Maybe our show will be a good fit for

00:40:19.520 helping promote your product or service. And these are the things that help keep us going along with

00:40:24.020 memberships and subscribers and things such as that. So where are we now? Let's see what we've

00:40:30.400 got going on. Oh yeah, the Olympics. Everybody have ever in your life, you ever gone and seen

00:40:39.900 such an undercover Olympics? Boy, I forget that they're even happening. You know, speaking of

00:40:44.880 Twitter, once in a while, I see the odd tweet where I'm going through TV channels at home at

00:40:48.340 night and I see Olympic coverage here. Oh yeah, those are happening. What a sad state. Something

00:40:55.100 that used to be actually such an exciting and a fun event to watch and, you know, cheer on your

00:41:02.200 country and your teams and such. I've mentioned it on here before, you know, in younger days,

00:41:06.420 I used to be a ski jumper. I wasn't as Olympic material by any means, but I really enjoyed it.

00:41:10.640 I grew up in Banff and, you know, that was the aspiration. That was the goal. That's the apex.

00:41:14.880 So for any serious competitor, whether we were racing or ski jumping or any of those freestyle,

00:41:18.860 you wanted to make it to the olympics and uh it inspired you you know olympic medalists or even

00:41:25.980 participants were heroes to the young athletes back then and i mean there was always corruption

00:41:31.100 issues that's been happening since probably since the beginning of the last century but it's just

00:41:36.140 gotten so bad it's turned into such a a political quagmire and mess that they're an embarrassment 0.77

00:41:42.460 and and now yeah in beijing you know you got these these empty audiences due to coveted plus a communist 0.97

00:41:48.860 government running the darn thing. It's just sad to see the Olympics fall by the wayside like that

00:41:54.780 because it is really important, I think, for amateur athletes. You know, I thought it was a

00:41:58.480 really good thing that was going on. Maybe we can get back to turning that into a respected

00:42:02.460 competitive institution again sometime soon. Well, it won't happen soon, but sometime eventually.

00:42:08.940 And yeah, right now it's just a loss. Other news, getting to where change is happening. Pierre

00:42:14.680 polyev has entered the cpc race for the leadership the conservative party of canada uh i think that

00:42:20.440 was kind of the biggest uh you know not exactly a bombshell everybody sort of expected that to

00:42:26.940 happen uh pierre uh was going to run back when sheer ran he he came close and then it sounds

00:42:33.080 like i think i mean he gave the usual i've changed my mind and i'm gonna spend more time with family

00:42:37.900 but it sounded more like some people talked into saying you know just just keep your powder dry

00:42:42.200 and hang on. It's not your turn yet. Can you hang on, hang on and let somebody else get in there?

00:42:45.500 Well, there's been two other leaders. He's ready to roll. He's come right out of the gates on the

00:42:48.940 weekend. He's running for the leadership. He's definitely the front runner already. And I'm

00:42:53.520 watching the mainstream media already attacking him. They are just on him. Of course, they're

00:42:58.560 going to paint him as extreme. They're going to paint him as a radical. And it's just old and

00:43:03.600 tired. One thing, Paulyev, no matter what you might think of him, because he does irritate some

00:43:07.820 people. I like him, but he gets into people's nerves, but he's smart, man. He's quick. And I

00:43:12.040 mean, if you watch him at press conferences, you watch him in the parliament, that guy could think

00:43:18.220 on his feet and he has a razor wit. And of course, I love that. I just almost hope that Justin Trudeau

00:43:25.740 does run in the next election as leader again, because just to see Polyev versus Trudeau in a

00:43:32.220 debate, I mean, he would just be shredded. Trudeau would just be cut to pieces. But again, that's just

00:43:38.120 the first one out of the gates. I mean, the race for the leadership of the conservative

00:43:42.020 Party of Canada is just beginning. That could, somebody else could come out of the woodworks

00:43:47.960 and beat them. There's a number of names there. Candice Bergen is now out since she's decided

00:43:52.400 she will be the interim leader for the time being. Everybody really liked her, but that shows,

00:43:58.440 okay, I'm not going for the big job. I don't know what else we've got out there. There's a lot of

00:44:04.060 names that pop up, but I don't know if they stand out quite like Pierre, but it's going to be an

00:44:07.700 interesting race. I hope they do it fast though. I know you can't rush these things too much, but

00:44:11.700 you've got to get somebody in there. You've got to get them established. You've got to get the

00:44:15.800 new leader recognized. They got to get some time in the house before you get to an election. If

00:44:20.000 it happens again too fast, we're going to get another term of Justin Trudeau. And none of us

00:44:25.440 in this audience, for the most part, want to see that. So we'll watch as that goes.

00:44:31.160 As we're leading up to the guest, here's another thing. Yeah. So the Convoyers, you know, I think

00:44:35.460 Dave mentioned that too, that they held a press conference yesterday. It was in a hotel room

00:44:38.280 and they refused to admit a number of members of the mainstream media and that that ticked them

00:44:44.680 off you know so scott reed from ctv he comes out with this tweet uh there nico's right on it and

00:44:51.580 if convoy leaders are in some hotel locking out the media can i suggest it might be the perfect

00:44:56.460 moment to take some cold saws and torches downtown and turn a few tractor trailers into lego yes this

00:45:02.200 is a guy with CTV. That's his response to being shut out of the press conference. Now, Scott,

00:45:11.060 read your own damn tweet. Just back off for a second and read your own damn tweet and think 1.00

00:45:16.120 about this. Why do you think they don't want to let you in? What do you think keeps them from 0.99

00:45:23.140 letting you guys into their press conference? Why do they feel that they might not get fair coverage

00:45:28.280 if they let you in. And when you read that tweet, I think it's kind of clear, isn't it?

00:45:34.160 What kind of tweet was that? Inflammatory, if nothing else. I mean, I know it was probably

00:45:38.560 your attempt at a lame joke. I know you didn't really expect people to go down there and start

00:45:43.560 taking torches and cutting up tractor trailers. But when you are a reporter, what sort of coverage

00:45:51.560 would you have given them had they let you into their meeting? I mean, the convoy guys, they should

00:45:57.520 you know, there's some colonists out there. There are some people in the mainstream that are still

00:46:01.800 responsible. They're good reporters. I think they should try and pick and choose a little more and

00:46:05.660 reach out to them. They still have a lot of reach, but the mainstream in general is garbage. And we 0.99

00:46:10.260 report on that quite regularly. That's part of why the Western Standard is doing as well as it is

00:46:13.460 these days, but that's sort of crap out of them. I mean, what are you thinking, dude? 0.96

00:46:20.680 Of course they aren't going to talk to you. It's just ridiculous, but it's becoming par for the 0.96

00:46:26.100 course for our mainstream media and people don't trust them, you know, and this is a bad place to

00:46:34.260 be right now. Let's see what else we got in the scroll here. Yes, justice centers demanding Ottawa

00:46:40.760 turn on their closed caption television coverage down there. That's another one. It's been kind of

00:46:45.820 interesting. These cameras that were online remain or they're now offline. I mean, this is things we

00:46:54.820 got to worry about too. This is when stuff gets hidden. Why is the government hiding things?

00:46:59.260 You know, transparency is supposed to be everything. We've got these protests going on.

00:47:02.720 If we've got protesters truly acting responsibly, dangerously, hatefully, shouldn't we want this

00:47:10.860 imagery to get out to people so they can see what's happening? Why is their first instinct

00:47:14.260 always to block people from seeing what's happening down there then? Why do we have to

00:47:19.240 ask to have the CCTV cameras turned on? I saw some rumors on Twitter, and again, you see,

00:47:23.760 gotta be careful reporting on rumors on Twitter. Somebody was talking about though apparently with

00:47:27.360 that whole apparent apartment torching that there is some CCTV footage of the guy who tweeted that

00:47:34.720 and his compatriots actually scouting the building beforehand and such. That again, I won't put any

00:47:40.240 credence to it until I see it, but it tells you about why there would be value for that kind of

00:47:45.600 footage and having those cameras turned on to see what is going down there,

00:47:49.120 whether it's for formal investigations or for just the public at large to see what's going on.

00:47:53.760 and we're in modern times, you know, there's cameras everywhere. That's what I wonder with

00:47:58.740 all these anecdotes we're constantly seeing from the mainstream media, promoting it and other

00:48:03.200 people. You know, somebody saying, oh, I was attacked because I was wearing a mask. CTV was

00:48:08.080 wistfully talking to a woman from a woman's shelter in Ottawa saying that the woman had

00:48:12.820 been afraid to go outside because they're going to be attacked and that they may fall into drug

00:48:18.320 abuse again and may find themselves homeless because the protesters out in the street,

00:48:23.400 because they're getting so vicious. Well, show us. How is it that there's thousands and thousands

00:48:28.300 of cameras and people down there and we aren't seeing these incidents happening? Why aren't we

00:48:32.020 getting footage of it? I mean, it's like Bigfoot. It sure disappeared once everybody had a camera,

00:48:37.020 didn't he? Or the Loch Ness Monster or UFOs for that matter. Yet somehow all of these hateful

00:48:43.380 incidents are constantly happening around these protests, but we're not getting any footage of it.

00:48:47.960 We're just getting anecdotes and then we're getting an eager mainstream media repeating

00:48:52.200 and reporting on these anecdotes. This is not good. And now we have to fight

00:48:56.240 to turn on the CCTV, you know, the closed circuit TV in Ottawa.

00:49:00.020 Why are they hiding that? I mean, if they've got a solid case about how bad and damaging

00:49:04.180 these convoyers and protesters are, they should have it on. That'll turn public opinion against the convoy

00:49:08.260 right away. Instead, they don't want you to see it. That always disturbs me. When the

00:49:12.140 government wants to block something, that's when I actually get quite worried, you know.

00:49:16.940 Be in the open. If you guys are in the right, it shouldn't be a problem.

00:49:19.960 Okay, I'm going to pivot a bit.

00:49:21.040 We're going to talk about some important stuff with the next guest, though,

00:49:24.020 and not quite as heated as the convoy stuff, but it's still very critical,

00:49:27.280 and that's Lionel Kambites.

00:49:29.020 I could be mispronouncing it.

00:49:30.380 I'm certain he'll correct me in a moment when he comes in, of Delta Clean Tech,

00:49:33.720 and these guys are working on some carbon capture technology.

00:49:36.220 So let's bring Lionel in and see what he's got to share with us today.

00:49:40.380 Hi, Lionel.

00:49:41.000 How are you doing?

00:49:41.740 Very well.

00:49:42.440 How are you doing?

00:49:43.460 Very good.

00:49:44.000 Ah, you got nice, clear sound.

00:49:45.360 That's appreciated.

00:49:46.660 Okay.

00:49:47.700 So, yeah, I got contact.

00:49:49.160 you know, this is something I've had, we've talked about a number of times on here and

00:49:53.400 I'm a person who used to be in the energy sector for a long time. It's a big deal in Alberta.

00:49:58.360 Whether we like it or don't like it, carbon emissions are a concern. We need to get them

00:50:03.960 reduced. We need to get them in order. And we're coming up with a lot of new technology though,

00:50:08.440 to turn carbon into sometimes an asset or a marketable product even, or at least taking

00:50:13.880 it out of the atmosphere. So that's what your company with Delta Clean Tech has been doing.

00:50:18.360 It really is, Corey, and thanks for having me on.

00:50:20.700 And by the way, I enjoyed your last little segment here.

00:50:23.000 While I've been waiting to come in, I enjoyed your views on that.

00:50:25.200 Thank you for that.

00:50:26.140 No problem.

00:50:26.900 You know, Corey, we're very lucky.

00:50:28.280 I see the Tower of Calgary behind you, and you realize that Calgary has a chance, an opportunity

00:50:32.860 to be, and will emerge maybe as one of the North, if not the one of the North American

00:50:37.720 leaders in carbon mitigation, in decarbonization of energy.

00:50:42.820 And we're very, very fortunate.

00:50:44.220 The Carbon XPRIZE was put together in Calgary out at the Shepard Energy Center in Calgary.

00:50:52.860 And we're very fortunate to have that project there, which demonstrates how to capture carbon dioxide, then how to make different products using that carbon dioxide molecule.

00:51:04.200 Yeah, I had actually Colin Craig with secondstreet.org.

00:51:07.660 They did a neat presentation with all these different things that can be made with captured carbon.

00:51:11.500 And he even had a vodka and a bicycle, I believe, and it was a number of things.

00:51:16.880 But, I mean, we can have creative ways to bring about the evolution of our energy sector.

00:51:22.300 I mean, people get frustrated with it, but if we don't make some changes, we're going to lose out.

00:51:28.220 And we've got a great deal of resources still here in Alberta to be produced and exported, hopefully, and sold.

00:51:33.780 But we've got to facilitate it with some carbon mitigation efforts or we're not going to be able to get it out there.

00:51:39.320 You know, I think you're right, Corey.

00:51:41.180 We're all past the debate, what should Ottawa have done or not have done?

00:51:45.260 The reality in front of us is the global reality in front of us.

00:51:48.200 And I think we have to look at mitigating carbon so we have another 50 years of the use of fossil fuels or whatever that number is to transfer us into the next generation, whatever that next generation is.

00:52:00.720 And Calgary has an opportunity because it's innovative and the oil and gas companies are still not so large that they can react.

00:52:09.480 they can they can be reactive to technologies the government in alberta is has been very supportive

00:52:15.320 of in evolving technologies in this area and and we've uh over a year and a half ago now we've we

00:52:21.160 focused our attention from out here in regiona to calgary we're moving our we've moved a good number

00:52:26.200 of our people to calgary we're doing all of our new hires in calgary to be able to expand our

00:52:30.840 right from calgary our global footprint on carbon mitigation

00:52:34.360 yeah so with delta clean tech i mean what makes you guys stand out from other carbon mitigation

00:52:40.400 initiatives and companies i'm certain you got a lot you can can share on it because it's kind of

00:52:44.540 hard to keep up with and i mean we see the need but there's a whole lot of ideas coming about on

00:52:49.020 how to deal with this uh so so what are you guys up to well here's what you know you should never

00:52:52.740 brag about being old uh cory but we're just old and i say that we started in 2004 we were the first

00:52:59.820 10 years of our existence, we were involved in more than 50% of all the CO2 capture plants in

00:53:04.740 the world. We've just been in the business, it feels like forever. And in doing that, we've got

00:53:09.980 pedigree. And what's happened now in front of us is so fast, it's so fast that companies need

00:53:16.320 robust and proven solutions, not science experiments. We're putting big money in the

00:53:21.960 ground. This has to work and be proven. So what really we have going for us is a great pedigree.

00:53:28.220 We were selected in Calgary by the group at the Shepard Energy Center to be the CO2 capture technology provider there.

00:53:37.900 And we did. We built a CO2 capture plant there.

00:53:40.940 We've captured carbon dioxide.

00:53:42.740 And we're the folks that are giving all that CO2 to all those unique people, those unique needs out there in Calgary.

00:53:49.800 So we have pedigree, we have history, we're shovel ready, and our solutions are very, very cost effective.

00:53:59.340 So for example, I'm guessing the Shepherd plant you're speaking of, that's a natural gas-fired electrical generation plant, and it powers most of the city out here.

00:54:08.740 With the captured carbon, as you said, you're re-utilizing it elsewhere.

00:54:12.900 We know it can be used in greenhouses, and as I said, some small niche things, creative things like vodkas and such.

00:54:18.680 you know it's just fun to see people getting creative with it but where predominantly then

00:54:22.180 is this capture going at this time well you're right about this cory these are emerging technologies

00:54:27.900 you have to build an awful lot of vodka and an awful lot of concrete and an awful lot of carbon

00:54:32.080 nanotubes to use the kind of co2 that we need initially to transition the capture of co2 that

00:54:39.400 last photograph of yours puts it right we have to utilize that we have to sequester that co2 down

00:54:44.580 downhole in ground and sequestration or we have to use that carbon dioxide for enhanced oil recovery

00:54:51.480 whereby the oil is removed from the reservoir and then the co2 could reside possibly in the

00:54:57.760 reservoir so those are the two areas that will take the large quantities of co2 that we're going

00:55:04.140 to be capturing okay so cheryl don is a commenter and she's got a valid question she's wondering

00:55:09.160 about those is there much for government subsidies or tax dollars going into this and you know that

00:55:13.480 is a concern we have because sometimes we see government getting into some schemes and ideas

00:55:19.060 and notions and the taxpayers sort of burn in the end and you know people are worried about that so

00:55:23.240 what sort of financial basis is this sort of technology got behind it yeah thank you there's

00:55:27.960 a there's some there is some support of course from government of Alberta and support from

00:55:32.320 government of Canada but of course it's these are smaller percentages there's a lot of investment

00:55:36.900 required by the companies who are installing this. There could be $0.60, $0.70 required today

00:55:44.380 to install this technology and get the capture rolling along. Capital Power made a great

00:55:50.840 announcement about a month ago that they were putting in a small CO2 capture facility and

00:55:56.080 they're going to be utilizing some of the CO2 molecules to build carbon nanotubes. So a lot

00:56:01.960 of the big companies are putting up their first smaller plants. If they like them, then they'll

00:56:07.540 move forward and put up larger plants, Corey. Okay. So that was the facility you spoke of is,

00:56:13.840 I guess, I guess you could say downstream, it's an electricity generation. What about getting

00:56:17.400 back to oil production, whether it's, you know, in the field, oil sands, natural gas sites,

00:56:23.040 things such as that, you know, we're still developing our fields and our production there.

00:56:27.700 have you got technologies that apply to some of those? We do and I think they're the the it's

00:56:33.520 always about the low-hanging fruit let's chase the low-hanging fruit and keep developing technologies

00:56:37.620 along the way within the energy production the actual E&P sector my thoughts are that that the

00:56:44.460 incineration and mitigation of methane emissions is by far the most significant thing that could

00:56:50.420 be done they were I mean 18 percent of all the CO2 emissions from the energy business

00:56:55.540 18% of those greenhouse gas emissions, CO2 equivalent, come from methane that has not been properly incinerated or it's been allowed to escape.

00:57:06.660 So one of the first things we can do is put a very, very tight opportunity on capturing all this methane that is leaking out of the energy patch and making sure that gets properly incinerated or burned.

00:57:20.400 yeah and uh i guess you know we've always been uh better at capturing i mean you don't see flares

00:57:27.440 like you saw back in the early 90s when i was in the oil field i mean i remember driving outside

00:57:31.080 of grand prairie at night and you just see almost like christmas lights all over the hills from all

00:57:34.920 the flare stacks at all of those uh well sites is that i mean a lot of that was sour gas as well

00:57:40.180 but was some of that the the methane they were trying to burn off yeah it truly is uh old well

00:57:44.760 sites we were doing a we were doing a report the other day for one of our customers and he had a

00:57:49.280 significant number of old well sites and the amount of methane leaking up around the casings

00:57:53.920 of old well sites anywhere where methane is escaping you know methane as you're well aware

00:57:58.300 has a 25 times co2 equivalent when it hits the atmosphere it's co2 e small e times 25 so so

00:58:06.740 there's a there's a 25 times equivalent with methane going into the atmosphere so the small

00:58:11.520 amount of methane leaking out of old wells that sort of thing these are the things that we can

00:58:15.880 manage now that's the low-hanging fruit and the other thing uh uh corey to be really uh most

00:58:21.560 effective you not only flare um methane that you you can have more sophisticated flaring units that

00:58:28.520 really incinerate it they actually destroy uh all the all the potential greenhouse gas damaging

00:58:35.080 emissions that could occur so i think we should chase methane immediately and get a full handle

00:58:40.840 on that over back in the oil patch that you were asking about. Okay, so your business, or at least

00:58:46.860 any research then, is most definitely focused on capturing of gases, whether it's methane or CO2

00:58:52.020 that previously would be released into the atmosphere, which again, I know there's a lot

00:58:57.020 of debate and discourse, but the reality is we're getting nailed with carbon taxes. Until we can

00:59:01.160 change some governments, that's going to happen. We've got to find ways to mitigate it. It's a term

00:59:06.020 I like you using, and I wish people would use it more in general. We can mitigate things. This black

00:59:09.940 and white on and off isn't productive, but we can make things better and still manage to keep

00:59:14.920 producing and have an industry that's functional, hopefully. You know, Corey, you're right. And I

00:59:19.400 call it silver bullet thinking. There's no silver bullet thinking. There's no on and off black and

00:59:23.220 white. Mitigation is exactly the right word to use. It's just a matter of picking the low-hanging 1.00

00:59:28.340 fruit and working at it, working at it. The reality is we're facing it. How are we going to manage it?

00:59:33.300 The other thing we're doing, Corey, of great interest is that we have been aggregating, originating and aggregating and trading carbon credits since 2007.

00:59:46.120 And what we're doing as well, we're providing a phenomenal platform for all these companies to ultimately introduce voluntary carbon credits into their regime.

00:59:57.100 And a voluntary carbon credit is a carbon credit where the carbon and the CO2 is mitigated using a protocol that's accepted and certified.

01:00:05.280 Then that carbon credit, we're tokenizing it on the blockchain.

01:00:09.120 That carbon credit becomes a carbon token and then ultimately can be used to against taxation or can be sold.

01:00:16.700 So I think the carbon credit economy is going to emerge with carbon credit trading as well.

01:00:22.360 That's going to be of great value as well, Corey.

01:00:25.820 Yeah, well, the whole blockchain token discussion, that's fodder for an entire other show in a complicated area.

01:00:31.760 But I mean, it's interesting to see things turning into potentially assets anyways.

01:00:36.180 I mean, it doesn't have to be a waste product.

01:00:37.700 We can benefit from it because we're just tired of getting punished out here in the West, I think, when it comes to a lot of this.

01:00:43.160 You know, Corey, we let some of this come upon us as well.

01:00:48.760 You know, many, many years ago, the bottling industry put on tariffs on a recycled bottle.

01:00:54.920 And many years ago, the tire industry had tariffs on a tire that was going to be recycled.

01:01:01.160 We've let a little bit of this come on us a little as well.

01:01:04.160 We could have been bringing some of this on ourselves a little bit and understanding that was in front of us.

01:01:08.860 So it's the sooner we react and mitigate, your word mitigate, and as soon as we pick off the low-hanging fruit,

01:01:15.020 the more the rest of Canada is also going to

01:01:17.540 they're pointing to us people in Alberta

01:01:19.680 and Saskatchewan a little bit and they're saying

01:01:21.340 you guys are responsible for some of this

01:01:23.480 I think the sooner we can

01:01:25.380 mitigate out there in the patch

01:01:27.200 and with power production

01:01:29.280 then of course the sooner

01:01:31.200 all of Canada is going to realize that we're cooperating

01:01:33.660 out here and Calgary is going to have

01:01:35.520 one of the, is going to be the spot that will have

01:01:37.400 the solutions for Canada if not

01:01:39.480 North America

01:01:40.160 Well I hope so, I mean it would be nice

01:01:43.360 to be more proactive rather than reactive

01:01:46.000 because we always keep pumping forward

01:01:47.320 and then suddenly have to deal with things

01:01:49.080 as they come to us.

01:01:49.940 So, I mean, we need to have these discussions

01:01:51.700 and different enterprise.

01:01:52.940 I just want to see private enterprise

01:01:54.500 take care of these things.

01:01:55.500 Enterprise different solutions

01:01:56.820 are always what I want to see

01:01:58.800 rather than legislative.

01:02:01.300 So either way,

01:02:02.140 thanks for coming on to talk to me today.

01:02:03.560 Where can we find out then

01:02:04.740 what you guys are doing

01:02:05.640 and where your product is going?

01:02:08.220 Certainly, deltacleantech.ca.

01:02:10.900 we're very proud to be Alberta based

01:02:13.740 we're very proud to be Saskatchewan based

01:02:15.600 and we're very very very pleased

01:02:17.660 to know we're the oldest and most

01:02:19.540 pedigreed carbon dioxide

01:02:21.440 manager in North America

01:02:22.900 and we really want to do business with everybody

01:02:25.720 and we want to help this along

01:02:27.720 so please take a look

01:02:29.800 give us a call and Corey

01:02:31.540 stay in touch with us

01:02:32.520 Great, thanks for joining us today Lionel

01:02:34.740 All the best to you Corey, thank you

01:02:36.500 So yeah

01:02:39.700 um yeah i know some of the commenters were getting upset i you know i'm not saying whether this is

01:02:44.420 good or bad i'm not here on that issue to talk about it but at least we can uh explore those

01:02:49.060 things talk about where the initiatives are who's doing what and and get some basics out of it as i

01:02:54.180 said uh i liked it when i talked to colin craig because he you know sat there picked up a bottle

01:02:58.660 of vodka and showed it to me you know that was made from uh carbon products from from things

01:03:04.180 in the oil field you know i know to some degree it doesn't seem to matter we're alberta

01:03:09.300 Ottawa is going to get on our case no matter what we do. We could bring our carbon emissions to zero

01:03:13.780 and they're going to find another excuse to tax us and nail us. It just doesn't seem to stop. But

01:03:19.780 the more we can gain the higher ground on this, the better. And I do like concepts and ideas that

01:03:25.500 where perhaps though we could capture these things and utilize them. As some people said,

01:03:29.640 carbon dioxide is plant food, but that's some of what we can use for capturing. It goes into

01:03:33.820 greenhouses. It goes into other areas where we can utilize it and make use of that product.

01:03:39.300 there's other things we can do. But time will tell. I know we've got a lot of crazy times

01:03:46.940 ahead of us. The government's taxing us all to hell. Our price of gas at the pump is through

01:03:50.540 the roof. And, you know, we in the West get painted as evil for daring to produce the thing

01:03:56.280 that's driving all these vehicles that's now being seized in Ottawa as people try to bring it out to

01:04:00.580 the convoyers at these sites there. Let's talk about alternative things again. I'm going to talk

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01:05:36.860 been great and we've been getting a lot. I'm going to have James checking in a little while

01:05:40.020 again. He'll be coming live from down in Coots. He's been watching the developments of the things

01:05:46.160 down there on the border. We go back and forth between Ottawa and Coots. I mean, we've had

01:05:50.480 protests all across Canada. I'm actually going to be talking to Spencer Fernando. There we go.

01:05:58.380 on Wednesday to talk about the Manitoba protests that he attended and wrote about over there.

01:06:03.460 And, you know, of course, it's been Vancouver and all sorts of other spots, Quebec City.

01:06:06.840 But it seems the only two big standoffs right now are Ottawa and Coutts. And Coutts is an

01:06:14.440 interesting situation. It's a bit different from the others. Some of the people might have seen,

01:06:17.740 you know, the horses down there. Some people are camped out. Others split off from that and headed

01:06:22.640 north to protest in Edmonton. They seem to have a bit of internal division going on, I guess,

01:06:27.480 between a lot of them, unfortunately, down there. Border traffic has been on again, off again.

01:06:33.400 It's a developing situation. And we'll get an update from James. He's been down there for a

01:06:38.060 week and some. He's going to be getting tired of it down there. At least the weather is a little

01:06:42.220 better. And that situation is still in evolution. So maybe I'm going to talk a bit about the Calgary

01:06:49.460 protests, though, since I'm waiting for James. He'll be coming soon. I went there in person.

01:06:54.640 and as I can see, it finally happened, you know, and people have gotten upset with me. I've gone

01:06:58.760 to multiple protests over the years and usually, almost always, I haven't been to one in a while,

01:07:05.900 somebody, one of the commenters I saw said that the recent ones have been good. Okay, this is the

01:07:10.420 most recent one I've been to and it was really good. Other ones, a small amount of people, often

01:07:15.240 they were crazy people and they were driving away normal people and nothing was going to change when

01:07:19.280 had that going on. The atmosphere was bad. It was angry. It was conspiratorial. I saw absolutely 0.97

01:07:26.000 none of that at the Calgary protest at Central Memorial Park. I was thrilled. I mean, you know,

01:07:32.000 I've finally come away from one of these feeling good and optimistic. This is the way to push

01:07:35.160 back. My experience couldn't have been better. The crowd was in the thousands. The mood was positive

01:07:40.200 and the crazy people were contained. There was a handful of out there individuals there. They got

01:07:45.520 the right to protest too, but it's much different when you've got 3,000 people and 20 who are a

01:07:50.480 little on the odd side versus having 100 people and 80 of them are on the odd side. And this was

01:07:56.620 not the case whatsoever. And I searched high and low for any evidence of extremism. I mean, you

01:08:02.560 know, aggressive people, hateful flags, any of that. Not because I wanted to see it. I just wanted

01:08:07.440 to be able to honestly report, honestly report that these protests were civil and they weren't

01:08:11.580 hateful and I am happy. I didn't find a thing. I chatted with a lot of people, a bunch of great

01:08:16.940 Western standard viewers down there. Actually, uh, I didn't see much for the mainstream media

01:08:22.020 down there though. You, you know, you wouldn't even know what was happening down there. I did

01:08:25.600 see a global truck go by and some people, uh, sort of, uh, they weren't violent towards it by

01:08:31.540 any means, but they were yelling at them and calling them fake news and things, which they

01:08:34.820 are. You know, these guys have earned the distrust. Unfortunately, I never want to see, uh, reporters

01:08:39.640 hassled or shoved around or anything but what it did is keep them from coming out at all and then

01:08:43.400 i saw a report briefly in the evening that was talking about apparently this protest was blocking

01:08:48.680 the emergency uh exits at the sheldon schumer center and and hassling and harassing healthcare

01:08:54.120 workers down there and uh i didn't see any of that at all this protest was right next to the

01:09:01.000 sheldon schumer center i i'm just gonna guess that you know after the protest there was about an hour

01:09:06.840 and there were speakers and so on, and I didn't stay for the whole walk, but they did a walk that

01:09:10.480 was going to go all the way down, for people who don't know, but 12th Avenue for a ways, and then

01:09:14.280 they were going to go down to 17th, and they were going to come back. You know, a few thousand people

01:09:17.120 walking in a big circle for about an hour, and maybe that blocked up the access to get in and

01:09:22.220 out of the Sheldon Schumer Center, which does have an urgent care thing. It also has the supervised

01:09:27.260 consumption site for Calgary Lieutenant, but I find it very, very hard to believe that they would

01:09:33.500 have put up, and I mean the protesters, would have put up with people being aggressive or nasty

01:09:38.280 or hindering emergency vehicles. I find it extremely hard to believe. It was clear. We've

01:09:44.060 seen that in Ottawa. We're seeing it here. They're going out of their way to take care

01:09:48.740 of themselves. They're making sure that the mainstream media doesn't have stuff to go on.

01:09:53.380 We saw that with that idiot with the Confederate flag in Ottawa, and we saw the video. The 1.00

01:09:59.580 protesters chased him away. They said, you're not part of us. Get the hell out of here. And I don't

01:10:05.220 believe for a second that that crowd of happy people, families, kids, dogs, I mean, it was,

01:10:11.240 as I said earlier, you would think we were at a summer festival or something with the way the

01:10:16.140 atmosphere was. It wasn't angry. It was actually happy and patriotic. And I mean, yeah, people are

01:10:22.200 still upset. They're expressing, you know, their end of patience with the COVID restrictions and

01:10:30.300 things such as that. But there was no violence or any of that at all. Yet, that's what was reported.

01:10:36.400 And again, I just found that very difficult to take seriously. And again, you wonder why

01:10:41.180 mainstream media isn't trusted? Well, they kind of bring it on themselves.

01:10:45.720 I see James bouncing around in the lobby there. He's all cloaked up in his Western standard gear.

01:10:52.020 It's probably windy as hell down there.

01:10:53.400 It always is.

01:10:53.900 But let's see if we can get them in here and see just what's going on in Cootes.

01:10:58.320 Hey, good afternoon, Corey.

01:11:00.360 Hey, looking at all the wind, but you're still coming in pretty good.

01:11:03.160 Good.

01:11:03.540 How's it going?

01:11:04.980 It's actually gotten a little bit crazy around here this afternoon.

01:11:10.440 There's been a couple of developments.

01:11:11.880 Late last night, this group of tractors here, group of tractors here behind me actually

01:11:18.240 through the barricade and came in and so far today that has resulted in a couple of escalations here

01:11:27.520 the rcmp came in and they were looking to talk to witnesses uh looking to talk to the traffic

01:11:36.240 and that actually resulted in a bit of an argument in in the main protest center but uh the the guys

01:11:44.720 have decided uh they're gonna have a press conference here so we're uh we're just setting

01:11:49.360 up for the press conference that's why i've been a little bit late uh getting on the stream they're

01:11:54.400 just writing some things out they've got uh an address that they want to get out to everybody

01:11:59.440 yeah like some of you kind of touched upon and we've heard from you a couple times so it's not

01:12:03.120 exactly a fully unified group there's a sort of a couple of distinct points of view on what should

01:12:07.040 be happening uh at the border uh right now i guess and they're still debating amongst themselves

01:12:11.600 yeah there was a group uh the farmers for freedom and uh it was kind of three different convoys that

01:12:18.960 converged down here and there's been a differing of opinion on what they should do and how they

01:12:23.440 should do it uh there's been another group they're not necessarily truck drivers just uh

01:12:29.040 more guys that are against the vaccine mandates and the coveted mandates and uh they're here as

01:12:34.640 well and uh they were working together and obviously last thursday a group of them decided

01:12:41.040 to go to edmonton to um to try to talk to some mlas i'm told that they did meet with some mlas

01:12:47.920 in red deer and they had some productive conversations and that group decided what

01:12:52.160 the mlas told them was good enough they feel like there's a timeline coming to the end of the covid

01:12:57.200 mandates and uh and they they left about four or five of them left already now there's a group that

01:13:03.600 has another group of farmers that have moved into the area obviously with their tractors here now

01:13:09.680 we we don't believe that they're local we think that they convoyed into the area and uh and then

01:13:15.440 we've got uh the truck drivers here that that originally created the blockade now this group

01:13:21.440 is absolutely adamant that they're going to keep this road open they have asked all of the protesters

01:13:26.720 in their group to make sure that this highway stays open uh and and they've uh they've been

01:13:32.560 pushing out any of the rebel routers as well anybody that's getting the group worked up anybody

01:13:37.520 who's uh who's saying the highway should be blocked anybody who's uh getting aggressive in

01:13:42.740 any way the group is self-policing and asking them to leave that's good to hear that that's

01:13:47.620 kind of what i was talking a bit about on a rant before you came on is these groups know

01:13:51.020 that they're going to be negatively labeled for every bad actor so they've got to take care of

01:13:54.940 their own and i think most of them ottawa coots even in calgary have been effectively doing so

01:13:59.400 even if they aren't getting much credit for it um oh cheryl we seem to have lost him okay as you

01:14:05.480 can see it is windy as all hell i was going to ask about the fuel seizures i don't think there

01:14:09.560 have been too many police uh interdictions going on down there yet oh there he is again hey yes

01:14:15.320 sorry about that it turns out 100 mile an hour wind is not great for technology uh the police

01:14:20.840 did say earlier that they see that uh these guys crossing the uh blockade last night was an

01:14:27.320 escalation and uh they're they are in discussions on how they're going to proceed further i know

01:14:33.240 that uh the western standards melody residents reached out to the rcmp for comments uh just a

01:14:40.040 couple of my contacts here have said you know that's a pretty serious situation and they need

01:14:45.240 to they need to deal with that okay uh cheryl had asked about uh you know are the rcmp taking

01:14:51.080 any supplies or blocking supplies or fuel or anything like that and have there been any charges

01:14:55.640 or arrests? There haven't been any charges or arrests that we're aware of or that have been

01:15:01.540 able to confirm. Just to the rumor mill, I have heard that there have been a couple of tickets

01:15:08.260 issued. I did see one ticket issued for a small fender bender that happened between a protester

01:15:13.420 and the RCMP. They de-escalated that situation fairly well. And supplies and food are getting

01:15:21.640 in they do have to walk it in from one of the checkpoints there's plenty of fuel there's plenty

01:15:26.520 of propane right now okay and just to confirm one more time so at the moment traffic is going back

01:15:32.040 and forth across the border traffic is going back and forth across the border the rcmp did mention

01:15:37.720 to me earlier today that there is concerns with uh the amount of wide loads that they can get through

01:15:43.000 here they want to see uh see it open just a little bit wider and uh they were talking about uh just

01:15:51.160 how much cross-border traffic's actually been slowed down by this so they are looking to uh to

01:15:56.360 get the guys to open it up just a little bit more great well it's still developing and we'll see what

01:16:01.880 comes out of uh jason kenny's caucus today i know that's going to have an impact on the views there

01:16:06.520 and whether things are getting you know rolled back with restrictions or not so uh we'll be

01:16:11.080 watching carefully i'll let you uh get out of that breeze and get ready for their their meeting

01:16:14.920 and conference and uh well we'll hear what you report later yeah stay tuned to the western

01:16:19.880 standard online.com there should be an update this afternoon right on thanks james we'll see

01:16:24.920 you whenever you manage to get back to calgary thanks bye all right so yeah for those who haven't

01:16:30.840 been to southern alberta that wind never stops down there if anything's testing all of them james or

01:16:36.200 or the people camped out there, it's an unpleasant thing.

01:16:39.920 You used to drive me bananas when I was a surveyor.

01:16:41.700 You try and keep your transit level

01:16:43.760 when that wind was howling at you out there

01:16:46.160 and it was almost impossible.

01:16:47.980 I don't miss that part of working out in the field anymore.

01:16:50.720 But yeah, there is a meeting, as I said,

01:16:52.820 with the Premier Kennedy's cabinet,

01:16:55.280 and I think it might be caucus as well.

01:16:56.780 I could stand to be corrected on that,

01:16:58.940 to talk about a timeline for getting rid of restrictions

01:17:03.100 or he likes calling it the restriction exemption program.

01:17:06.140 the vaccine passports, you know, let's quit, let them try that double talk. It's a vaccine passport.

01:17:10.840 You can't go to businesses without it. Ernie Sue has been on the news a lot lately. He's the head

01:17:16.460 of the Alberta Hospitality Association. They are really in big trouble. You know, it's not just

01:17:22.620 the passports and that keeps people from coming in there. It ruins your dinner experience. It's

01:17:27.520 the masks. It's the early closures. I mean, if you're running a nightclub type of bar,

01:17:32.600 you're relying on that last three hours of liquor sales. That's when your money comes in. That's the,

01:17:36.660 that pays your lease. That's the big bucks. And it's not happening right now. You know, I listened

01:17:40.280 to some, some dingleberries now and then on the internet, some of them kept going, what rights

01:17:43.660 are being lost? What rights are being lost? Go to my show from last Friday. And I listed on a whole,

01:17:48.300 I also wrote a column as much on westernstandardonline.com. There are all kinds of

01:17:52.220 things being lost. And we know that my listeners know that my viewers know that. And I won't put

01:17:56.960 up with that discussion saying, Oh, just suck it up. No, we're crushing businesses. We're breaking

01:18:01.720 up families. We're causing tension. People are substance abuses through the roof. No, no, this

01:18:08.920 is not a minor inconvenience. This is two years of government intervention in our lives. And we're

01:18:15.360 now at a point where there's study after study showing it is making no difference in fatalities

01:18:19.180 with the mortality of people with the COVID-19. And that's from Johns Hopkins University, even

01:18:26.000 though people are questioning it. That's a big institution, guys. It's time to stop the

01:18:31.060 restrictions. It's over. And now, unfortunately, the governments are almost on a point of pride.

01:18:35.380 They don't want to look like they were pushed off of their positions by protesters. But too damn bad.

01:18:40.800 You know what? That's one of the times I wouldn't mind if Trudeau just lied to us. I mean,

01:18:44.100 we don't have to ask for it. It won't take long. Just lie. Drop the restrictions and lie and say

01:18:49.380 it had nothing to do with the protests. Drop the restrictions and say, you planned on doing it this

01:18:54.720 week anyways, and the protests were irrelevant. I don't care. I don't care about the justification.

01:18:59.180 just do it. End it. Get it over with. We don't need them anymore. And it's causing a lot of

01:19:05.980 problems. And these protests are only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And I mean,

01:19:11.500 they don't seem to realize that. You know, as I said, they're dancing a victory when the GoFundMe

01:19:14.980 site got shut down last week on Friday. And look at that. It sprung up in another spot and raised

01:19:20.960 even more, even faster. And it's hundreds of thousands of Canadians funding these things,

01:19:25.820 not just the ones going out to the protests themselves.

01:19:28.960 I mean, not everybody can.

01:19:29.880 Not everybody has the ability to get out there.

01:19:31.360 They've got to work.

01:19:32.360 They might not have the money to get out that way.

01:19:34.220 But still, maybe they've got a few bucks they can spare,

01:19:36.100 and they're supporting these things.

01:19:37.060 And they're showing up at protests all across the country.

01:19:40.060 These aren't going away.

01:19:41.480 So let's start getting realistic about this.

01:19:44.800 And I know it's asking a lot.

01:19:47.000 I mean, the Ottawa police are now getting into reinforcement,

01:19:48.940 and it's not going to be as easy as they're making out.

01:19:51.080 They made these big inroads they're talking about last night,

01:19:52.900 but I listened to the conference with the Ottawa police chief.

01:19:54.880 they're exhausted they've been working overtime they're running out of energy on this and I tell

01:20:00.160 you what all they're doing is inspiring more protesters to come out there and bring more fuel

01:20:03.520 and make more blockages and this is just going to keep spiraling so we got to have an end game so

01:20:09.200 maybe Kenny at least one leader in Canada is decisively going to say it's done it would be

01:20:15.040 refreshing and it would bring pressure off and it would make these guys say you know what I've done

01:20:19.720 at the border, I can go home again. But until some real change happens, it's not stopping guys.

01:20:25.380 It's not going away. So I'm going to finish off going back to what I was talking about, you know,

01:20:28.800 with going down to the Calgary protests. It was, as I said, really positive for the people who

01:20:33.380 haven't made them before, you know, I'll hear a bit, but I'm going to get a video to play quickly.

01:20:38.120 It's about a minute and some, my wife, Jane was with me. She took the video is what's great about

01:20:41.920 it is you can just see the good attitude of people and how healthy it was a healthy protest. That's

01:20:47.660 the right word to use for it. So, Nico, maybe if we could get that running there.

01:21:17.660 I called him fruit or something that you never had to.

01:21:24.660 We've got a lot of respect here.

01:21:32.660 I like that from that final foul, he was walking by, pulling the wagon, playing Tom Petty there.

01:21:52.860 But I mean, as you said, nothing but love and respect there. And that's what it was. You know,

01:21:55.960 you saw the kids up waving, having fun. We were just, that was just over on the corner of the

01:22:00.500 street on the edge of the park uh behind there we didn't you know it's hard to get a good camera

01:22:04.320 angle up but there were thousands of people there and that was it horns were honking flags were

01:22:08.360 waving uh there was one of those bloody hey hey ho ho chants and i can't stand those whether

01:22:13.320 they're left right or center they're tired and old come up with something more original but all

01:22:16.500 the same these were people getting out this is the stuff that the uh as somebody else liked uh

01:22:21.800 preferred to say legacy media uh wants to claim is violent wants to claim is out of control wants

01:22:28.880 to claim is hateful, wants to claim is angry. This is what they claimed were harassing the people

01:22:33.980 at the Sheldon Schumer Center. That was, I just don't believe that. I really don't. At worst,

01:22:39.260 I could see some unintentional traffic congestion would have happened with that many people marching

01:22:43.940 by at once. But as for purposeful hate, as James was saying, they're self-policing down on the

01:22:48.760 Coutts border. That crowd there, that happy crowd, they would not have put up for a second

01:22:52.700 with some imbecile going and harassing healthcare workers as they went by the center. 0.99

01:22:57.980 but this is the narrative we're getting. As Jade said, thank goodness for cameras these days. You're 0.99

01:23:02.220 damn right. You know, we can counter it and that's what we're doing here at The Standard. That's 0.79

01:23:06.360 what other, you know, True North, Rebel, others. We don't have to rely on the mainstream media

01:23:10.240 anymore. We can get out there in person and see or other people will go and see on our behalf and

01:23:15.120 we'll share that video. We'll share those pictures and we don't have to let them control the narrative

01:23:19.100 anymore and it's failing. That's part of why the mainstream media is getting so vitriolic because

01:23:23.600 they know they're on the ropes. They know they've lost trust. They know people are sick to death of

01:23:27.460 their crap. And they're coming to places like ours to get good, clean coverage. And yes, 1.00

01:23:33.080 Nico's brought up the link, westernstandardonline.com slash membership. Keep helping us, guys. We can

01:23:37.920 get more reporters out there in the ground. We've got a number of them. We're growing. We're moving

01:23:41.340 into a bigger studio. I'm really looking forward to that. It's pretty tight in here. westernstandardonline.com

01:23:47.660 slash membership. You will get the news stories as they break. And they're constantly breaking now.

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01:24:11.280 We always have that risk a bit with YouTube.

01:24:15.740 It looks like Dave is going to pop in right before the end of the show here.

01:24:18.180 We'll bring him in because it sounds like a development in Ottawa and almost a bizarre one.

01:24:21.500 So let's bring Dave into the feed here.

01:24:22.940 Dave, that's an interesting comment you got there. What do we got going on?

01:24:29.060 Corey, an Ottawa resident went to court on the weekend asking for a judge to ban the truckers

01:24:36.260 from honking. Those loud air horns have been going incessantly throughout the day for more than a

01:24:43.300 week now, but they do stop at 6pm, so they should be able to get a peaceful night's sleep, you would

01:24:52.100 think. But just breaking now, an Ottawa judge has brought down an injunction. They will not be

01:24:57.360 allowed to honk for 10 days. So it'll be interesting to see if the truckers follow that.

01:25:02.900 If they don't, I give the police another reason to arrest them, I guess. And it'll be interesting

01:25:07.920 to see what happens at the end of 10 days. Okay, well, sounds like your phone and everything's

01:25:13.800 going. I'll let you get back to it. But thanks for that update. And as we see, things are

01:25:17.020 developing through the courts out there in Ottawa. We'll have a story up momentarily, Corey.

01:25:22.100 Great. Thanks, Dave. So yeah, see, just that reminder. And as I was getting to in my rant,

01:25:27.020 in a sense, it wasn't a rant so much, but a self-promotion that if you're subscribed to

01:25:30.040 all those channels, you'll see the alerts as they pop up. Like if things go pretty wild down there

01:25:34.060 in Cootes, you know, James is going to come up with a live feed all of a sudden, it'll pop up,

01:25:38.300 you'll get an alert. Same with Amber's up in Edmonton, if anything happens there,

01:25:41.580 same sort of thing. So here we go. Now we've got an injunction against honking, you know,

01:25:47.840 free the honkers. This is ridiculous. You guys, we're going to criminalize horn honking. Oh, 0.93

01:25:52.760 I can see the lawyers rubbing their hands together over fighting all these stupid tickets. 1.00

01:25:56.240 Good luck with it. But again, it's a desperate government coming up with stupid, desperate 1.00

01:26:00.880 things to try and stop a citizen pushback that that's beyond their control. They're losing 1.00

01:26:07.360 control. They deserve it. It looks good on them. Let's keep it up. Keep honking. Not till two or

01:26:13.040 three in the morning. Do it respectfully. That's fine. And that's what they've been doing. The

01:26:16.240 other one's pissing and moaning. Well, hey, you chose to live in Ottawa. Guess what? Protests

01:26:20.180 happen there. Washington City gets that sort of thing too. If you really got a problem with it,

01:26:23.300 you know what you should do? Call your liberal MP and tell them to drop the bloody restrictions.

01:26:27.660 Have they considered that? I betcha. I just betcha. That would take some of the pressure off. What a

01:26:31.900 crazy thought, eh? Or at least maybe talk to them. All right. Well, that is enough for today. We had

01:26:38.540 a good one. We got another packed one coming tomorrow and I'll have Clinton DeVoe on. Clinton

01:26:43.640 and gets folks worked up all the time,

01:26:45.140 but he gives a good different perspective.

01:26:46.740 He's from out in Halifax, more of a red Tory.

01:26:49.220 And he does watch the federal scene closely

01:26:51.360 because we do have a federal leadership race going on.

01:26:53.680 So we can talk a bit about that.

01:26:55.120 And then Mark Mielke, he's been around a long time.

01:26:57.640 He's the author of a number of books.

01:26:59.320 And he wrote a recent column on how the woke activists

01:27:01.940 are trying to rewrite our history.

01:27:04.360 It'll be a great chat with Mark.

01:27:05.880 And of course, we'll update on whatever news

01:27:07.740 and things that are happening.

01:27:09.540 So thank you all for tuning in today.

01:27:11.080 Come back again at 1130 a.m. tomorrow morning for another great show.

01:27:16.740 And until then, honk honk.

01:27:41.080 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - February 08, 2022

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