Western Standard - LIVE - Triggered： It’s time to shift the protests.

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00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's March 14th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. Hey there,

00:00:40.340 Gary and Soneco. Good to see you guys on kicking off this week. Another stupid, crazy, busy news

00:00:46.980 week. And it's nuts around here too. We've been trying to move the office and having a lot of fun. 1.00

00:00:52.120 For those who observe some of these things, it's not a religious observance, but it's a very

00:00:56.780 important one for people aren't familiar with it march 14th is also known as steak and a bj day so

00:01:03.260 for some of the couples who may want to observe that i know the price of beef is pretty high

00:01:07.180 these days but you might want to get one out there and well whatever you do after that is up to you

00:01:11.420 but it is important to have those regular observances to keep life fun and make sure

00:01:17.260 that our beef producers are well served by lots of customers aside from that this show is

00:01:22.540 is coming to you live every day.

00:01:24.780 Just that reminder for the new viewers,

00:01:27.500 the ones that haven't driven off

00:01:28.400 with my references to what day it is.

00:01:30.320 Every day at 11.30 Mountain Standard Time,

00:01:32.520 Monday to Friday.

00:01:33.820 And of course we do specials

00:01:35.120 and things like that as well.

00:01:36.700 Bring on those comments.

00:01:37.780 It's good to see people from all over,

00:01:39.220 Monty Lake, BC, Okotoks,

00:01:41.440 lots in Calgary, of course.

00:01:43.400 And let's have some discourse.

00:01:44.840 You know, that's the advantage of a live show.

00:01:46.300 You guys can chat back and forth with each other.

00:01:48.140 You can send live feedback to me,

00:01:50.120 potentially my guests.

00:01:50.960 I mean, I won't necessarily read out every one, but I do read them as I see them go by.

00:01:54.480 It just makes for a much more lively show, you know, than just having canned, recorded

00:01:58.480 stuff like so many of the others.

00:02:00.280 I've got a couple of good guests on today.

00:02:02.000 I have Wilder's Independence Party leader, Paul Himmon, coming on.

00:02:06.680 He's going to take a break.

00:02:07.460 It sounds like when I was talking to him, he's, you know, he's, I've worked with him

00:02:10.500 on campaigns. 0.90

00:02:11.220 He just works like a maniac. 0.82

00:02:13.040 He's going to come in from his phone out on the streets because he's door knocking all 0.94

00:02:15.700 day today.

00:02:16.080 That by-election is being held tomorrow night in Fort McMurray.

00:02:19.600 Lacklebish. So we'll get an update from Paul there and we'll find out tomorrow night who 1.00

00:02:25.180 has won up there. Then back to more UCP shenanigans. I got Jody Gateman coming on.

00:02:30.520 Jody's been a very active political person for a long time with the Wild Rose Party in the past

00:02:35.340 and then the UCP and a number of other areas, but she ran for a nomination and they found an excuse

00:02:40.180 and they disqualified her recently. You probably heard some of that in the news. We're going to

00:02:44.080 talk to Jody and get an idea of what happened there. Hey there, Hockey J from Nova Scotia.

00:02:49.600 So yeah, we got a bit of an Alberta-centric thing there, Jay, but it's still all interesting

00:02:53.720 politics hanging in there, and I appreciate you coming on to watch the show.

00:02:56.860 So I'm going to get on to something that's a little local, but it kind of covers a lot

00:02:59.960 of things too.

00:03:00.940 This is where not every commenter is going to agree with me, but that's okay.

00:03:04.240 You don't have to.

00:03:05.720 It's been over a month since Alberta dumped his vaccine passport program.

00:03:09.760 Mask-made band-aids ended province-wide two weeks ago.

00:03:13.300 Businesses are allowed to operate at full capacity and at normal hours again.

00:03:17.000 And these moves are happening across the country.

00:03:18.580 Even the NDP and BC have come to realize the restrictions have to end.

00:03:23.240 We get doomsayers like Rachel Notley's pet doctor, Joe Vipond,

00:03:27.300 and others who predicted mayhem and overwhelmed hospitals and massive infections.

00:03:31.420 They always do.

00:03:32.460 And as usual, they were wrong.

00:03:33.880 COVID-19 is still with us, but time and policy attempts have proven that lockdowns,

00:03:39.020 mask mandates, and vaccine mandates have a negligible impact upon the pandemic at best.

00:03:44.180 We still aren't done.

00:03:45.620 We still aren't done overall.

00:03:47.060 the federal government they've been fighting every effort to drop their restrictions with

00:03:50.180 all they have a person still can't fly or take a train without having a vaccination

00:03:53.860 some mandates remain for federal workers and federally regulated industries like truckers

00:03:59.140 and the border requirements are onerous and they're harming tourism significantly

00:04:03.220 these mandates aren't trivial or harmless i mean some people haven't been able to freely travel

00:04:07.540 for years or they've been put right out of work with all that said we are getting closer to what

00:04:12.500 could be considered normal living than we have seen in years. Politicians and medical leaders

00:04:17.940 even are conceding finally that we need to begin accepting COVID-19 as being endemic and learning

00:04:22.740 to live with it. And we've got ongoing weekly protests being staged in cities across the

00:04:27.220 country. And I don't doubt they've helped nudge political leadership in the right direction,

00:04:31.140 even though they were grudgingly pushed towards it. And those political leaders will never admit it.

00:04:35.780 But it was becoming clear that people were getting upset in ever larger numbers with

00:04:39.140 what was beginning to feel like interminable restrictions on their lives, and they were

00:04:42.740 taking to the streets to demonstrate their ire. All that said, it's getting near time now to

00:04:48.260 temper some of these protests. Most of the public are ready to move on, and if ongoing protests

00:04:52.980 become a hindrance, public sentiment will turn against them quickly. I mean, the public's happy

00:04:57.140 with things opening up, but they're still grumpy. And when public support's gone, the state will move

00:05:01.460 in quickly and it could get ugly. And I don't want to see that. Again, I understand some restrictions

00:05:06.100 remain on the federal level and people have every right to protest those restrictions in fact you

00:05:09.620 know some of them should it's time for these protests to become more targeted though before

00:05:13.300 they do devolve into something else in calgary the protests were impressive as thousands of people

00:05:17.860 gathered and marched every weekend in the beltline area near downtown and they still are people were

00:05:22.820 fed up with the restrictions and applauded applauded the marches even if they didn't join

00:05:27.140 them i thought the peaceful gatherings down there were fantastic we're now at a tipping point though

00:05:31.460 where people are asking well what are they still protesting about and the number of protesters at

00:05:36.020 these gatherings they're still impressive but they're starting to wane and now what i'm saying

00:05:39.540 is maybe it's time to move locations if the federal government's the only remaining institution

00:05:43.700 maintaining restrictions perhaps the protests should start gathering at federal offices in

00:05:47.220 calgary like the harry hayes building or city hall even to the mcdougall center where provincial

00:05:51.460 government offices are located like take it to the political fronts because right now the weekly

00:05:56.020 protests are being held in a residential area and while i've been supportive i can understand why

00:06:00.100 some residents are starting to become tired of them i mean you've got to see an end at some

00:06:03.460 point. So what's the point in annoying innocent citizens with the protests? How is it pressuring

00:06:07.780 the government in any way? If anything, it's only costing the protesters public support now,

00:06:13.220 and counter-protests are starting to spring up to stir up trouble. So things could go off the

00:06:18.820 rails soon. It's clear that counter-protesters, they're just trying to instigate a violent clash.

00:06:23.140 They basically baselessly continue to slander the freedom protesters as white supremacists.

00:06:28.500 The counter-protesters are masked and trying their hardest to cause trouble as they block

00:06:32.180 what was a peaceful, if annoying, march on 17th Avenue the last couple of weekends.

00:06:36.400 Once police moved in, you know, to get them out of the way and avoid conflict,

00:06:39.540 of course, the counter-protesters have moved on to playing victim.

00:06:42.380 They're practiced in this. It's the usual suspects.

00:06:45.260 As protests continue and conflicts escalate, though, police are going to be forced to intervene.

00:06:49.020 And this is what the counter-protesters want.

00:06:51.160 I know they don't really represent most of the Beltline residents as they claim to.

00:06:54.660 These counter-protesters, for the most part, are the usual anti-FUD-type crowd

00:06:57.720 who exist simply to cause trouble.

00:06:59.360 They won't stop, though.

00:07:00.600 and more cellar dwellers are going to be joining their ranks as they become inspired by the

00:07:04.460 potential conflict. Let's say it's time for the freedom protesters to take the higher ground,

00:07:09.040 move the protests away from the residential area and towards the government facilities where they

00:07:13.020 belong. The extremists taking part in the counter-protests will probably follow, but they

00:07:16.820 won't have public or police support as they try to make trouble with a peaceful group that's

00:07:20.400 already demonstrated a capacity for compromise. If things continue in the course they are now,

00:07:24.720 though, there's going to be a serious conflict at one of these marches soon. Somebody might get

00:07:28.280 hurt. And all the public support for the protesters that they've worked so hard to gain

00:07:32.160 could evaporate. This doesn't have to happen. Demonstrators can continue to gather every week

00:07:38.080 and make their case on the streets. They need to accept, though, that it's time to take the

00:07:42.120 event to a new area. The current course is on a dead-end trajectory. And again, I just don't

00:07:46.660 want to see what was such a good thing becoming wasted if it falls apart and gets extreme. So

00:07:52.100 give a little ground, guys, a little bit of compromise, and I think it'll work out better

00:07:56.820 for everybody in the end. Okay, that's what I've got for my thoughts today. And I'll check in on

00:08:02.460 Dave Naylor to see the news and thoughts from him for the day. Dave, how are you? Good morning,

00:08:08.880 Corey. How's life in the construction zone? It's interesting around here. You aren't missing out

00:08:14.140 on much. Yeah, as I said, for viewers, we're in the middle of moving to new offices. We had some

00:08:18.280 unanticipated delays. And that's why we've got Dave tuning in from home rather than his usual

00:08:23.060 office seat today so but uh i had to come in our studio is is it not doesn't work from home

00:08:27.620 yeah sucks to be you cory it does uh so our top story at the moment is a is a guaranteed eye

00:08:35.620 ruler it's uh the federal federal liberals the environment department is sort of congratulating 0.98

00:08:42.100 themselves and they've introduced a carbon tax that is affordable quote unquote affordable well

00:08:48.580 Well, I don't know if you've ever filled up your gas tank in the last week or so, but it's getting more and more unaffordable and we're only two weeks away from another increase in the carbon tax.

00:08:59.880 so not sure if they'll be able to say affordable for very much longer.

00:09:05.160 Another interesting story on the federal government they have a access to lists compiled

00:09:11.240 by consultants of 25 trusted media reporters who they can guide in the election. The name of the 25

00:09:22.040 has been censored out on access to information documents but I think we can have a have a good

00:09:27.800 guess on uh at least a couple of them uh cory um speaking of the beltline protest uh mayor gondek

00:09:36.760 not very happy at all she wants to know why police aren't using the powers of bylaws to uh to make

00:09:44.600 some arrests or at least hand out some tickets uh she says there's unlicensed food vendors and

00:09:51.000 unlicensed merchandise uh sales going on the horror and uh she wants police to uh to crack down on

00:09:58.280 that uh calgary police will be holding a press conference this afternoon at uh at 1 30 lots of

00:10:04.680 questions uh to ask them of course after the weekend uh pierre polyev has uh put out a uh

00:10:11.720 or held a press conference uh today about fast tracking immigration policies for for people

00:10:17.800 with the proper credentials, making doctors who move here from other countries or nurses

00:10:24.560 being fast-tracked to get their licenses. As you know, sometimes these things can take years.

00:10:33.120 So he's looking for a way to improve that by offering incentives to provinces.

00:10:40.580 So that's what we've got up at the moment. It's an exciting day here, Corey. As you know,

00:10:45.500 We've got two new staffers starting, both reporters in Ottawa.

00:10:51.140 Rachel and Matthew will be our parliamentary correspondents,

00:10:56.140 and they'll be busy because, as you know, Ottawa sometimes is creating the news down there.

00:11:02.480 Yeah, I'm afraid so.

00:11:03.340 Whether we like it or not, they still are considered the capital of our country for now,

00:11:06.960 and we have to have people there to see what's happening with us.

00:11:10.340 You bet.

00:11:10.820 So we didn't hire just one, we hired two.

00:11:12.640 So looking forward to welcoming them on board and people can start seeing their work any moment now.

00:11:20.780 Right on.

00:11:21.340 Well, thanks for checking in, Dave.

00:11:22.620 And I guess I'll see you tomorrow.

00:11:24.580 Well, fingers crossed.

00:11:26.960 Well, maybe I'll just come down to your place, do the broadcast there.

00:11:29.580 There you go.

00:11:30.660 All right.

00:11:31.860 Thanks, Dave.

00:11:32.940 Take care.

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00:13:40.400 of why I start with the rant. I'm just concerned with the ongoing protests and I've been down

00:13:45.680 there. The people are peaceful. They're fantastic. The atmosphere is very happy and forward thinking

00:13:51.800 and jubilant. I was impressed. Like the earlier protests a year and a half ago, I went and checked

00:13:56.340 them out. And they weren't, they were a little kooky and often angry. And they certainly had

00:14:01.760 evolved into something much bigger and nicer. But now it's, you know, everything kind of often goes

00:14:06.120 on a curve. And they've hit a point now, people are losing interest to a degree, because again,

00:14:10.580 most of the mandates are dropped. And I know there's federal ones, and I know there's still

00:14:13.680 a problem. But if you get that general tipping point of getting people to come out is harder now.

00:14:19.160 And these counter protesters are feeling emboldened. And you watch them the other day,

00:14:22.520 oh, they're all whining. They were told by the police over and over again, you know, back up,

00:14:27.220 back up. Because what was happening for those who don't watch the Calgary things, they have a big

00:14:31.400 protest with thousands of them and they get together in a park and then they do a march and

00:14:35.920 they march through some streets and up some streets and back around and end up back in the

00:14:39.300 park. I think the march takes about an hour. Typically, like I've attended them and I didn't

00:14:44.040 walk the whole march, but when they would march by, it takes about 15 minutes for that many people

00:14:47.660 to walk by, and they fill a whole street. So these counter-protesters went down on 17th Avenue,

00:14:53.080 Calgary. It was about 90 of them, 100 of them, and they stood and they blocked the road. They

00:14:57.520 didn't allow the march to continue past them. So this came to a standoff, and they were standing

00:15:02.240 still for, and here's some of the irony, because they say they're counter-protesting because these

00:15:05.820 protesters are causing so much disruption down there. Of course, by completely stopping it up

00:15:09.840 for 45 minutes or an hour, as opposed to 15 minutes, isn't exactly helping the situation,

00:15:14.180 but that's what they went out to do. And they were aggressive, and they were masked. It's the

00:15:17.720 usual ones. The police kept asking them, move aside so these guys can march by. Move aside.

00:15:22.320 They wouldn't move aside. So the police did eventually push them aside. And yeah, there

00:15:26.780 was a couple of them. They took bikes, and they pushed. They used those bikes. We saw that in

00:15:29.580 Ottawa, too. It's ironic. It depends. So the police are moving protesters. They use similar

00:15:34.040 techniques in other areas, no matter what side the protest is on. Counter protesters have gone

00:15:38.820 wild, of course. They're howling. They're victims. They feel terrible. Bummer. But they're not going

00:15:43.520 to stop and you know these guys and they're whining of course and it's the defund the police

00:15:48.460 bunch too and they'll say we got to defund them the police are bad I mean the police kept these

00:15:53.460 two groups from coming together and as I said these um protests I I've gone to them they've

00:15:59.740 always been peaceful they've been good uh people you know loving forward thinking it's it's it's

00:16:04.920 an unusual atmosphere for a protest but things can get stirred up tempers can get heated and

00:16:09.640 people can get frustrated. When you've got thousands being held up by dozens, and if you

00:16:15.100 actually let those two groups come together, somebody might lose their temper and things

00:16:19.160 can go badly. I used an analogy with somebody on Twitter. Oh, so you're saying these guys are

00:16:22.140 violent. No, I'm not. I'm saying that if you're stupid, things can happen. And unfortunately,

00:16:27.460 there's a lot of stupid people out there. The analogy I use is bees. They're totally harmless. 1.00

00:16:31.480 You don't walk by a beehive, a set of hives. Side note, by the way, Jane and I are getting

00:16:35.560 into beekeeping this summer. This should lead to some good stories as I come in. Everton stings

00:16:39.320 every day. But either way, bees are typically harmless. You can walk right by the hive,

00:16:42.420 whatever. As long as you're not bothering them, they won't do a thing to you. You go shake that

00:16:46.000 hive up, though, you're going to get stung. So just don't. Don't stir them up. It doesn't mean

00:16:51.480 the bees were dangerous. It means you took safe bees and turned them dangerous. So the police,

00:16:56.920 they know that. They do conflict resolution. They're not perfect, but they have common sense,

00:17:01.340 and they know we can't let these two groups get together like this, or we're going to have a

00:17:05.140 problem. We're going to have a conflict. Maybe somebody will get hurt. So they separated them,

00:17:08.820 and it took pushing, but it's going to get worse guys. It's going to get worse this weekend. More

00:17:13.820 people now are going to be upset and they're going to be coming out on one side and more people are

00:17:16.820 going to be upset and they're coming out on the other side. And again, I worry for what it's going

00:17:20.680 to lead to. And if it ends with a bunch of violence and fighting and things like that,

00:17:26.440 and we'll see the video. I mean, the people pro freedom protesting are going to have lost their

00:17:31.260 messaging that they will not, you know, they've done so much great work. They've made strides.

00:17:36.940 So all I'm saying is maybe examine how you can take some of that pressure off.

00:17:40.420 And that's where maybe gathering at the Harry Hayes building downtown every weekend or the McDougal Center, there's a lot of areas where you can gather.

00:17:48.920 And it doesn't drive the local residents who have to live down there as nuts.

00:17:53.360 It doesn't put the pressure on citizens who are living down there.

00:17:55.920 And you still make your point.

00:17:57.100 Because, yeah, the protest is important.

00:17:59.000 Your right's important.

00:17:59.840 It should be valued.

00:18:00.880 I'm just worried with where it's going to go.

00:18:02.520 I don't want to see it go badly.

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00:19:15.760 are flying so we've got paul hinman from the by-election trail up in fort mcmurray lac

00:19:21.680 labish how you doing paul well it's a brisky cool day up here but it's awesome i mean there's just

00:19:27.220 nothing more enjoyable than meeting people at the door and talking about the importance of this

00:19:31.420 by-election and how Trudeau and Rachel Notley want to tax our carbon and they want to shut

00:19:36.800 down our oil sands. And then you got Brian Jean and Jason Kenney who want to meet the Paris

00:19:41.140 Carbon Net Zero 2050. And these people up here get it. They realize that, you know what, that's

00:19:46.340 not in our interest and they're speaking out against it. And just like I say, it's awesome

00:19:50.840 talking to them at the door. Yeah, well, I know you're a tireless door knocker. I've worked on

00:19:56.200 campaigns with you before. You wear me out going door to door. But I mean, that's the way you can

00:20:00.260 really connect with people. That's the only way. I mean, you can't beat getting one-on-one

00:20:04.260 with a candidate and talking about things. So you've been at it for a couple of months up there

00:20:08.380 now, have you? Just a little over three months now, Corey. It's amazing.

00:20:12.480 We've got close to well over 450 people with

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00:20:20.440 continue to talk to people door-to-door, there's overwhelming

00:20:24.560 support for what we're wanting to protect here in Fort McMurray and Alberta.

00:20:28.660 This is our crown jewel. And this is I say this is ground zero against carbon net zero. These people understand that.

00:20:37.520 Yeah. So in general, I mean, just to give people a timeline, even for some people who are watching from up there, by elections can sometimes really slide under the radar.

00:20:45.060 People forget they're happening. The voting day is tomorrow. And I believe what the cutoff will be eight o'clock.

00:20:50.480 that is correct 8 p.m and I go to elections.ab.ca to find your designated voting place because you

00:20:58.280 have to go to your proper one advanced polls they can go anywhere but no it is that that's the

00:21:03.680 problem the number of people I still knock at the door oh you know I've seen the sign but no I didn't

00:21:07.560 realize why are we having a by-election and and people like to live their lives outside of

00:21:12.460 government and and you know how we're political wonks and we're all tuned in and think the rest

00:21:17.220 the world is but but they're not and again many of them are frustrated and elections too often

00:21:22.460 are about voting someone out in 2015 it was voting Jim Prentice out in 2019 about voting

00:21:28.720 Rachel Notley in 2023 it's going to be able to where you can actually vote for something you

00:21:33.520 believe in vote for wild rose vote for principles vote for a government that's going to protect your

00:21:37.980 constitutional rights of life liberty property and it just resonates people understand the carbon

00:21:43.200 tax only hurts us. It's a wealth transfer. It's not doing anybody any good here in Fort McMurray,

00:21:48.900 let alone Alberta or the rest of Canada. So with just getting on to things, I mean,

00:21:54.780 people tend to vote for change. And as you said, you know, you can send a message with voting for

00:21:59.060 you and let them know that they want something different. Ironically, and I know you don't wish

00:22:04.380 that, but harder times help inspire people to change. Energy prices are very high. I imagine

00:22:08.820 things are kind of starting to boom a little bit up there as they try to get the gears turning

00:22:11.760 again uh is that having an impact on things well you know up here it's a little bit different in

00:22:16.720 fort mcmurray because they they're such big organizations i mean suncorp cut back their

00:22:21.840 their capital spending this year 10 a year ago i i talked to an individual that's a subcontract

00:22:27.520 for out there he was just sick last friday he had to let 17 people go and he said it was the

00:22:32.640 worst thing he had to do in his life after two years of covet and all of the problems

00:22:36.560 and he is very much for says we got to get you in there paul we got to change the narrative

00:22:41.040 this attack on fort mcmurray is hurting them big time housing prices are hurting here

00:22:45.920 and like i say 17 people lost their jobs last week up here in the oil and gas industry

00:22:50.880 and it it doesn't turn around as fast as drilling does you know and again the pipeline building

00:22:56.960 has been slowed to a halt pretty much it it's still hurting here but people are optimistic

00:23:02.320 that we can and we'll turn it around yeah well and that is some people you know things people

00:23:07.840 have to realize if they haven't worked in the field much or understand, I mean, conventional

00:23:12.080 oil and gas drilling, even then the regulations are pretty onerous and it takes a while. You can't

00:23:16.240 just pop out there and spud in and get something into production and get it into market without a

00:23:20.960 whole bunch of process. But oil sands, I mean, that's large, long-term type of investment. So

00:23:25.760 you can't move on a dime whether stopping or starting. And we're having trouble raising

00:23:30.220 capital in Canada because we're not really a trustworthy market to invest in right now.

00:23:33.220 100%. Trudeau has sent the virtue signaling to the world. It seems like Toronto and the bankers are the same thing. They're not wanting to loan to our oil and gas investors. They're so worried about the ESG, the environmental, the social and the government part of things.

00:23:50.220 And yet we look at the crisis in the world and is there anything more important after our food than energy security?

00:23:57.080 And, you know, if Trudeau had any brains in his head about the importance of it, he would have said, you know what, we're not going to we're going to get Energy East going.

00:24:05.180 We're going to talk to Biden and we realize that we need energy security to be buying, you know, conflict oil is just crazy.

00:24:12.360 And that's what the people up here, they shake their head. Like, how do we have political leaders? And even Jason Kenney failing to stand up for us in a significant way, using the notwithstanding clause, actually doing something rather than sending a letter or saying, I disagree.

00:24:25.760 I mean, even Legault in Quebec, you know, he said when the emergency act came out, no, we're not going to have that here in Quebec.

00:24:32.880 We'll look after our own. 0.91

00:24:33.960 And our premier has just been pathetic when it comes to actually standing up and saying no. 0.87

00:24:38.680 He's just folded like a cheap card table every time Quebec's interfered or Quebec and Ottawa's interfered in our business here in Alberta. 0.96

00:24:47.320 It's really disappointing.

00:24:49.380 Yeah, that's been a disappointment for a lot of us in a lot of levels.

00:24:52.560 I mean, the fire deal panel was supposed to address a whole bunch of these things and they traveled around with their their show and their question and answer.

00:24:58.800 And now it's been years and nothing's been done, not a single thing.

00:25:01.720 So I guess it was just a bait and switch.

00:25:03.960 Oh, that's you know, there's I don't think there's anybody that was excited as I was when Jason got in there and thought, wow, we got someone who gets it.

00:25:11.780 He actually knows the talk that boy, he's never done the walk.

00:25:15.100 And what a flip flop.

00:25:16.480 I mean, if this hasn't been the biggest disappointment for conservative voters, and that's why I say it's exciting to be out here representing the Wild Rose Independence Party.

00:25:25.200 People are excited about it.

00:25:26.620 The legacy parties have let us down.

00:25:29.140 The corruption and the decision making has just been so disappointing to so many people.

00:25:33.880 And they realize we need to have something different.

00:25:35.680 But, boy, you've got to go door to door to let people realize it.

00:25:38.640 And that's why I say there's nothing more valuable than door time.

00:25:41.580 And I hope we've had enough time, but we'll find out tomorrow.

00:25:44.560 yeah just uh like the by-election you're in is kind of unique it's quite different i mean the

00:25:50.080 ucp candidate is actually the strongest anti-ucp candidate at least as far as the leadership goes

00:25:54.960 with jason kenny brian gene is is based his whole campaign on on basis basically being i i want to

00:26:00.400 get in there so i can be a thorn in kenny's butt and hopefully knock him out of office which holds 0.92

00:26:04.880 some appeal to some people but lacks some depth i think in some other areas corey it was pathetic 0.97

00:26:10.720 cory at the one forum all he kept doing every time was was to say buy a ucp membership and come with

00:26:16.080 me to red deer like his campaign has been to oust jason kenney but i have to say like first of all

00:26:21.440 okay are you going to win fort mac and then the bigger one is is you really think that you can

00:26:25.680 win a leadership review um or and then can you win the leadership race i mean his his arrogance is

00:26:32.480 quite stunning to me that he thinks that he's just the air elect and we just got to knock this person

00:26:36.960 off and the biggest question that lots of Fort Macs are asking him is he going to be a three

00:26:41.140 times quitter if he loses any of these he's not going to stick around he's in it for Brian Jean

00:26:46.220 he's not worried about Fort McMurray he's not worried about Alberta he's worried about his

00:26:51.320 career and getting his little moment on the grandstand it seemed like but he didn't even

00:26:54.560 show up for the last forum um up here and I don't know it's just it's been disappointing

00:26:59.440 to see and again you know he keeps saying that you know we got to support the Paris Accord and

00:27:04.760 These things just aren't true. We've got to stand up, say no more. We've got to say no to Ottawa, no to the Paris Accord, no to carbon tax. And they all say no to carbon tax, but yet they continue and carry it on saying, well, you know, we've got to have this virtue signaling to the world.

00:27:19.440 when we're a world-class organization and operation up here and the world needs more

00:27:25.500 Alberta oil and gas not less they need more Alberta energy they need more of our beef our

00:27:30.560 protein and and yet these people are failing to stand up for our core industries here and it has

00:27:35.700 a domino effect if we want to have the the robust education and health care that we need we have to

00:27:42.000 have a robust economy and that starts with our oil sands it's our crown jewel and to throw this 0.99

00:27:46.860 under the bus to virtue signal to the world it's plain wrong people in fort mcmurray like the bitch 1.00

00:27:51.760 got to get out and vote no to justin trudeau vote no jason kenny and vote yes for alberta and our 0.87

00:27:57.900 oil sands and our oil gas industry and beat so uh just to clarify some stuff before i let you get

00:28:03.540 back onto those doors uh there was an article came out recently i guess you you talked that's

00:28:07.660 something you're prone to you're a straight shooter and you talked about the political nuts

00:28:10.200 and bolts and the amount of numbers required in order to win uh whereas potentially i mean

00:28:15.200 the winner of this race could come in with 30 some percent that's just the nature of the first

00:28:18.640 past the post system but you know some people interpreted that as you conceding defeat that

00:28:22.660 you got low support but i imagine what you're saying is anybody could take this get out and

00:28:26.480 vote it doesn't have to be an overwhelming uh number of voters it's it's always disappointing

00:28:31.520 the way the media can twist things and they i was asked you know what what percentage of the votes

00:28:36.760 do you need to win well it's 35 percent i mean historically that the the conservatives here

00:28:42.400 got between 65 and 70 percent the ndp 25 to 30 percent i don't see their votes going up so that

00:28:49.920 you know 35 percent of the voters uh we we should win this um hands down just because of the sheer

00:28:56.000 numbers but you know that the real question isn't any by election is who's motivated and i have to

00:29:01.280 say that you know as long as we've been door knocking and you know we've got you know close

00:29:06.320 to 500 if not more 500 lawn signs that that's not enough and and you know we've talked to

00:29:11.360 thousands of people but are they motivated tomorrow to go out lots of these people are working

00:29:15.760 and you know their shift work doesn't get there so it's anybody's race tomorrow uh this is kind

00:29:21.760 of like those um outdoor survival races that you know the insurance races we're running to the end

00:29:27.760 and when we get there tomorrow night we're going to find out how we did and whether the people were

00:29:31.760 motivated to get out and if we talk to enough people yeah well by elections are are tough and

00:29:37.680 unpredictable animals that's what makes them interesting to watch anyways if nothing else as

00:29:41.200 well uh so before i let you go where can people find uh in this last while uh where your campaign

00:29:47.520 site is and what you're up to have you got any events happening tonight or you're just going to

00:29:50.320 be hammering doors i imagine it just we're just going to be hammering doors and pamphlet dropping

00:29:55.120 you know we've got uh be back up in gregoire later this afternoon uh i've been in thickwood

00:30:00.240 this morning i'm going over to woodlands here next we're just kind of jump shooting and get

00:30:06.320 up to abbastan probably too and even we'll get up the beacon hill here and they'll just be dropping

00:30:11.120 off in each of the communities and got a good team throwing out our brochures for the last day and

00:30:16.080 we're just excited to be here and give people an actual choice they believe in because so many say

00:30:20.640 you know what i didn't even know i was gonna vote i didn't know you know the the best of the worst

00:30:25.680 isn't good enough to motivate them to get out to vote so who knows corey but it's just been exciting

00:30:29.760 to be here to give people an option to choose something they believe in and wild rose look us

00:30:35.120 up what choose wildrose.com look us up and you'll be excited to realize what we're actually standing

00:30:41.040 for and we're not a legacy party we're out there for you you're the masters we got recall you can

00:30:46.480 throw us out i don't have to put up with a wild rose uh candidate for four years just because

00:30:50.960 they get elected on elected day great well thank you very much for coming in to join me i'll let

00:30:56.640 you get back to those doors and start warming up again it looks like it's still winter up there

00:31:00.160 we're looking at 10 degrees today so i i keep hearing that you get climatized though you know

00:31:04.880 to me this is a beautiful day if the wind was a little more brisk it would be tough but no

00:31:08.640 this is a a beautiful day it's refreshing to be out here and again it's nothing warmer than

00:31:13.680 talking to people at the door right on well we'll be watching with interest tomorrow night paul uh

00:31:18.880 good luck and i'll talk to you again soon i'm sure thanks jory take care appreciate being on thanks

00:31:24.880 so again that was paul hinman and you know again i can't remind people enough so that's fort

00:31:31.300 mcmurray lacklabish like these these by-elections can really be easy to forget or not even notice

00:31:36.840 or if people have been in in for two weeks and out for three weeks that sort of thing might not

00:31:40.480 even notice the sign so if you live up there uh whether it's paul or wherever you want to go it's

00:31:45.220 important to take part in these things check it out you don't go to uh elections alberta they'll

00:31:49.520 give details of where you can vote what your station is what you need and requirements you

00:31:54.460 know, by-elections are really important. I mean, they get under, underrated in some ways, but they

00:32:00.120 give you an electoral snapshot between general elections. It gives the voters a chance to speak

00:32:04.800 up and share their thoughts. You know, if Jason Kenney had been doing fantastic and great, we

00:32:10.120 wouldn't even be glancing at this by-election because it would just be a runaway for the UCP

00:32:14.900 to get in there. As Paul demonstrated in the past in Calgary Glenmore, though, when the Stelmac

00:32:19.040 government was getting soft, they got to watch their flank because Paul won Calgary Glenmore

00:32:23.860 in an upset by-election victory the same way he's working up in Fort Mac right now, just by hammering

00:32:28.400 and door knocking and him with a lot of volunteers working really hard. So don't underestimate what

00:32:34.060 might happen tomorrow night. I mean, it's tough. It's tough to get interest. It's tough to get

00:32:37.320 people out to vote, but I know they've been working really hard and anything can happen.

00:32:42.840 So it's going to be something well worth watching. And I mean, I'm trying not to take sides. I'm an

00:32:48.920 opinion columnist, though. I'm allowed to put those things out. I just, if I were a Fort Mac

00:32:53.140 person at this point, I would vote Wildrose Independence for a couple of reasons. One,

00:32:57.600 because I've known Paul for a long time and he's a principled man, which is just very important.

00:33:00.680 It doesn't matter which party a person's with. If they've got principles, it's really critical.

00:33:05.540 The other part is it's just a by-election, as I said, is that opportunity to vote and send a

00:33:09.580 message to the government. So you want some change. You're not happy with the status quo.

00:33:13.160 It's a safe way to do it. It's not like you're going to put Rachel Notley in by putting a

00:33:16.480 different person in up in Fort McMurray in a by-election. And also just showing the more

00:33:22.040 turnout you can in any election, particularly a by-election, shows that the electorate's engaged

00:33:26.280 a bit. It shows you're paying attention and that you're taking part and that the government or

00:33:31.040 up-and-comers should also be paying attention to you out there. The worst thing we ever do to

00:33:35.180 ourselves is apathy and not paying attention and taking part in these votes when we get those

00:33:39.800 chances. It doesn't seem like it's important, but it really is. There's my lecturing and nagging for

00:33:44.940 the day, but it's important as a political leader to put that out there. And I'm sure we got a few

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00:35:18.360 as I said, as a UCP nomination candidate on what I'll say are very shaky ground. I served with

00:35:24.860 Jody on the Wildrose board in the past with the Wildrose party, not the incarnation that Paul's

00:35:31.480 leading now, which is the Wildrose Independence Party. I know we make things confusing,

00:35:34.960 But the old Wildrose Party back with Danielle Smith, and Paul was a part of that too, of course.

00:35:39.280 And Jody's a very well-established political person.

00:35:42.460 If she could serve in those sorts of profile roles, yet suddenly be ineligible to be a nomination candidate,

00:35:49.400 that doesn't really pass the smell test very well at all, actually.

00:35:53.380 It stinks. It stinks a lot.

00:35:56.660 So we saw that with Tim Hoven as well, because he was challenging Jason Nixon in the Rocky Mountain House.

00:36:03.440 Nominations are some of the, if you want to see, unfortunately, some of the dirtiest of politics that typically goes on, the worst of insider play and pressures, nomination races are where they happen.

00:36:13.160 I mean, theoretically, they're supposed to be your most important democratic exercise at the grassroots level.

00:36:18.060 That's where the members living in a riding choose who's going to represent them.

00:36:21.540 That's where they go out and have the opportunity to say, yes, I want this person to run on my behalf in the election for this party.

00:36:28.760 but unfortunately unscrupulous party staffers and leaders and others sometimes feel that it's

00:36:35.280 important to control these races rather than let them happen they don't want to see democracy they 1.00

00:36:40.820 don't trust their own members with democracy you know that's the part that gets most insulting

00:36:44.360 when they mess with nomination races is what they're saying is you members aren't smart

00:36:50.160 enough to distinguish between what's a good candidate or not a good candidate so we're

00:36:53.520 going to disqualify the ones we feel are inappropriate before you even get the chance

00:36:56.780 that's not democracy at all. It's quite the contrary. It's completely the opposite. And it

00:37:02.440 happens all the time. And we've seen it happening again. And we've just got turmoil in that UCP

00:37:06.420 right now. I'm going to talk about a few news items before we get on to Ms. Gateman, though.

00:37:11.600 And what's this? Federal consultants. Yes, this is, you know, getting back to media too and getting

00:37:18.680 your story. Dave mentioned this, and there's a story on the Western Standard for it. Federal

00:37:22.440 consultants compiled a list of 25 reliable journalists. And I'll say reliable, you know,

00:37:26.460 in those air quotes, to be instructed on the correct way to cover general elections. According

00:37:32.460 to access to information records, the consultants were led by, of course, a Toronto Star executive,

00:37:38.160 you know, the Red Star, and they wouldn't comment, real transparency. The names of the reporters and

00:37:44.220 the approved newsrooms were censored. The Department of Canadian Heritage withheld records for three

00:37:49.920 years under the Access Information Act. So this has been going on for years, and they've been

00:37:52.920 hiding it. Approved media named in a program aimed at organizing Canadian outlets to participate

00:37:59.620 in a network to address misinformation. Wow. Guys, it's not the role of the government

00:38:06.160 to pick and choose which media outlets are approved or official or trustworthy. It's not

00:38:12.300 their job. You know exactly what a government is going to do. It doesn't matter which party even. 0.78

00:38:16.520 They're going to pick news organizations that are favorable to themselves. It's pure self-interest.

00:38:20.400 And that's what they're doing. This Liberal Party has worked so hard on controlling information,

00:38:26.020 on controlling media on every level, whether it's pouring more money into that rotten old CBC,

00:38:31.600 the $600 million slush fund to other media and broadcasters, the ongoing subsidies and

00:38:36.880 talks that they're giving out. This is terribly dangerous. This is not good, people. This again,

00:38:43.540 I mean, yeah, I'm self-serving. Sure, I'm biased. This is why the Western Standard is important.

00:38:47.300 And it's not just us. I'll name the other alternative ones. Post Millennial, True North Energy with Candace, Rebel Media.

00:38:54.000 I mean, Epoch Times. These guys are all important because they aren't under the thumb of government.

00:38:58.900 Because once the government gets you dependent on them as a media organization, whether it's for direct subsidies, which is often the case, or this as well, where you're approved.

00:39:08.540 I mean, if you're not approved, what does that mean? That means you get shut out of what some press conferences.

00:39:14.240 Does it mean you don't get certain information that other outlets get?

00:39:17.300 So, I mean, in the same sense, they can still control and strangle you and make you dependent upon them as a media organization.

00:39:23.220 And, of course, once you're dependent on them, you really have a huge disincentive to ever critically report on government.

00:39:28.880 And it's so important for media to always have the ability to critically report on government.

00:39:34.900 And the liberals fight this tooth and nail.

00:39:37.480 This should sit off alarm bells in this country.

00:39:40.160 There's so many alarm bells going on all the time.

00:39:43.680 So, I mean, what's some of the more stuff of the story?

00:39:44.940 a critical first step in this initiative is to introduce a broad network of journalists,

00:39:49.160 civil society leaders, where they'll pick those out of, and media executives to the issues

00:39:55.660 surrounding misinformation, the history and implications it's had on previous elections

00:40:00.720 and the best practices for countering it. Wow. So you'll get your plums, your preferred media

00:40:07.860 sources and the heads of them and the executives of them and these other civil society leaders,

00:40:12.620 which I guess basically means liberals, and they will pick and choose who can properly share

00:40:19.480 information with you. This is not good. Let's see. I sent a memo to the Democracy Monitor by the

00:40:25.480 Public Policy Forum. This public policy forum based on auto received a total of $2.5 million

00:40:29.520 in federal subsidies to manage a digital democracy project that expires in 2023. This is another

00:40:35.900 area. The government's pouring your money out to feed you propaganda, guys, and they are working

00:40:40.600 with C-11 and other bills to shut down independent media, and they're busy pumping up this crap and 0.75

00:40:48.020 dying legacy media with your tax dollars. And unfortunately, it leads to you getting 0.84

00:40:53.320 screwed. You're getting incomplete information. And then, of course, information is everything. 0.96

00:40:58.800 I've talked about that in the past. Somebody, a commenter, Pamela Jones-Kenny saying,

00:41:03.260 our own Pravda media. Yeah, basically. And Pravda, for those who don't know, is Russian for truth.

00:41:07.640 in some of an irony. I've talked about that before. I did have a good opportunity in my

00:41:12.040 young life to travel to the Soviet Union back in the 80s when it was still the Soviet Union.

00:41:17.500 And yeah, Pravda was there. That was it. It was propaganda everywhere from the airport. We had

00:41:20.720 brochures all the way along the walls with all of these pamphlets in English because they wanted

00:41:24.740 to get the people who were coming from other countries and everything too. But how terrible

00:41:27.780 the Americans were and nuclear testing and how great the Soviet Union was. I mean, there are

00:41:33.100 pictures of Lenin everywhere. I'm sure we're going to start seeing Trudeau statues going up

00:41:37.440 maybe not so much in the West. I'm certain that it probably wouldn't last very well, but

00:41:41.680 where this big brother propaganda, big government pushing information trend we got

00:41:47.280 is continuing and it's getting ugly. I mean, and here's the BS and doublespeak coming out. Dave

00:41:53.700 talked about that in the news update. Canada has proven it can collect a carbon tax that keeps life

00:41:58.380 affordable, said the Department of Environment. Oh, we'll take more of your money away basing it

00:42:05.460 on adding to the cost of something that's essential to you,

00:42:08.640 like energy, gasoline, fertilizers, things like that,

00:42:11.900 yet it's supposedly going to make life more affordable.

00:42:16.000 So on April 1st, yeah, the government's raising federal taxes.

00:42:19.880 You're gonna get another 12 cents a liter on the gas,

00:42:22.120 by the way, so just a couple of weeks, guys,

00:42:24.820 another 12 cents a liter, and the government,

00:42:27.340 in doublespeak, is saying,

00:42:29.120 we're keeping life affordable for you.

00:42:31.480 Wow, no wonder they have to buy media,

00:42:33.760 Because, I mean, you have to get a good mouthful of money to keep from spitting back

00:42:39.380 when that kind of BS is being fed to you by government departments.

00:42:42.620 I mean, they're saying, you know, cold is hot, hot is cold, war is peace.

00:42:46.860 It's getting sick. It's that bad.

00:42:49.860 And they say that Canada has proven that carbon pricing can be done in a manner that keeps life affordable. 1.00

00:42:54.020 Where do you get this crap? 0.98

00:42:55.880 I mean, BC's had a carbon tax for years. 1.00

00:42:58.040 There's two problems with theirs.

00:42:59.800 For one, of course, it's cost them a whole whack of money.

00:43:02.180 BC is one of the most expensive places in Canada to live, and their carbon tax is a big chunk of

00:43:06.260 that. The other thing is, it didn't reduce emissions. If it doesn't work, it's just a

00:43:11.960 tax grab. And it didn't. BC's emissions have not gone down a bit. Even though having the first

00:43:16.460 carbon tax scheme in all of Canada, it didn't work. So why on earth should we carry on? But

00:43:22.200 we've got government departments telling us somehow, somehow, that as they raise your prices

00:43:27.620 for energy on every level, making life more affordable.

00:43:31.860 How are we supposed to believe these guys? 0.98

00:43:33.460 They're insane. 0.98

00:43:35.440 But either way, that was a notation. 0.89

00:43:38.480 And at the end of it, it said,

00:43:40.220 that's why the government of Canada

00:43:41.200 introduced a price on carbon. 0.96

00:43:43.440 You know, they're liars.

00:43:45.340 That's another thing to point out. 0.52

00:43:46.780 I mean, they'd capped the tax at 12 cents

00:43:49.560 on a promise it was never going to increase.

00:43:50.820 That was years ago.

00:43:51.960 Remember the old ditzy Catherine McKenna, 0.99

00:43:54.600 environment minister?

00:43:56.060 You know, like, well, yeah, we're not going to go beyond there.

00:43:58.740 I'm probably doing a terrible imitation of her voice, but she was just nails on a chalkboard, that one.

00:44:02.680 I mean, she was really, you can see why Trudeau and her bonded quite well.

00:44:06.360 I'm sure they could trade crayons from the boxes when they're coloring between cabinet meetings.

00:44:11.480 But she promised it's not going up.

00:44:13.040 She told him in 2019, absolutely, it is not going up.

00:44:15.960 The plan is not to increase the price after 2022.

00:44:19.340 This is her exact words.

00:44:20.620 That's exactly what we said we'd do.

00:44:23.680 But she lied.

00:44:25.040 The government lied.

00:44:26.760 They do that.

00:44:28.260 They're lying to us now, and they're raising it in April.

00:44:30.800 Right now, when you can barely get to working back with the fuel prices as it is,

00:44:34.360 barely heat the house, well, they're going to add to that,

00:44:37.920 and they're going to smile at you, and they're telling you,

00:44:40.280 we're making life more affordable.

00:44:42.640 And they won't allow people to dig in and question them

00:44:44.760 because they're too busy trying to control the media.

00:44:46.680 They want to make sure we don't report on that sort of thing.

00:44:49.400 We do have more reports coming out.

00:44:50.920 Here's another one with a federal ban on six types of single-use plastics.

00:44:55.220 But there's a new report.

00:44:56.340 Independent researchers, these are the ones they hate,

00:44:58.000 independent ones as opposed to government ones.

00:45:00.540 The most commonly discarded plastic is not covered by their ban.

00:45:05.180 I mean, that's where the problem is.

00:45:06.600 The study indicated Canadian single-use plastic measures are insufficient.

00:45:10.320 Here's a reviewed study from the Marine Pollution Bulletin.

00:45:13.320 Let's see here.

00:45:15.300 So, I mean, they banned straws, of course, stir sticks, six-pack rings, grocery bags.

00:45:19.760 These are things we see all the time. They're very visible. It does feel wasteful when you

00:45:23.760 only use it once and chuck it. That's what a lot of it is, is virtue signaling, though. We are not

00:45:26.980 out of landfill space. That's room for a whole other show. We've got lots and lots of landfill

00:45:32.140 space. We don't want garbage. Nobody likes seeing plastic bags blowing around the roads. Nobody likes

00:45:36.120 to see the oceans full of plastic and crap. But when you look at the per square mile in landfills 0.95

00:45:40.920 and the way they work, North America is nowhere close to running out of room. We can bury that

00:45:45.280 stuff guys and it doesn't bother things whether they like to admit it or not so uh either way

00:45:51.240 they the things they ban aren't going to make a bloody difference and then the ones that are

00:45:55.500 causing actually more problems they didn't ban those so wrappers i mean that's the bulk of

00:46:01.380 plastic we see wrapping packaging things like that that's not banned and bottle caps those

00:46:06.360 things you know can't recycle them can't do anything they didn't ban those i'm not saying

00:46:09.460 they should ban more it's just saying their policy stinks they go after the low-hanging fruit they

00:46:14.080 go to after feel good things, things they think, well, they don't care about the environment. They

00:46:18.220 don't really, they want to make sure that people think they care about the environment. They want

00:46:21.840 to make sure people think they're doing something. So they put out things like that. People see

00:46:25.820 drinking box straws. People see the plastic cutlery. They don't think about the cap off of

00:46:30.080 their pop that they just threw away. Yeah. So it's a panel saying Walmart's stopping all plastic

00:46:35.780 bags in stores in April. And I mean, those, those, those recycled bags, I mean, there's also been

00:46:41.500 shown. If you're taking your bag back and forth, I mean, if you want to meticulously clean it and

00:46:44.860 so on, it'll work, but it's a pain in the butt. And there's a lot of problems. They get dirty,

00:46:49.160 other things like that. Plastic is so thin. It's a clean sort of thing, but they're going to ban

00:46:55.620 them because it makes people feel better. How about the end of plastic straws though? I mean,

00:46:58.500 where was I? It was Wendy's the other day. Grabbed a meal in that rotten paper straw and I drank

00:47:04.340 fast. That pop went down. It's still that thing fell apart before I got halfway through.

00:47:07.800 I know, it's not ending the world because I had to use a damn paper straw. 1.00

00:47:11.960 These things are annoyances, and these stupid virtue-signaling things 1.00

00:47:14.920 aren't doing a damn thing to save the environment. 0.99

00:47:17.220 They're just making politicians feel good about themselves.

00:47:20.380 As always, at our expense.

00:47:23.280 And speaking of one more, I'll end off before I bring Jody on here. 1.00

00:47:28.140 What's the name of that bar now?

00:47:30.920 Oh, I'm forgetting it.

00:47:32.180 There's a bar on 17th Avenue, and I just wrote about it.

00:47:34.980 I was tweeting about it.

00:47:35.660 I get the weirdest brain farts at times.

00:47:37.800 They were virtue signaling when the vaccine mandates were taken away, you know, and you didn't have to show your passport to get into the bar.

00:47:46.940 Crown and Anchor on 17th, kind of a hipster bar there down there.

00:47:50.760 And they said, we're going to keep it on because our customers feel it's more important to check everybody for vaccines, even if, you know, because they'll feel unsafe.

00:48:00.200 And we'll actually do better for ourselves because people feel safer and they can come in and get their vaccine passports.

00:48:03.940 So screw you, Alberta. 1.00

00:48:05.740 We're going to keep asking for that. 0.98

00:48:07.140 and our customers have all stood up and said, they're going to support us through this.

00:48:10.740 There's even one doctor who tweeted, there we go, Bridget. Yeah. Ship and anchor. Thanks. And

00:48:14.380 doctor said, I'll buy a hundred beers for every person who shows up with their vaccination past

00:48:20.360 that point. Oh, that's nice of her. They quietly got rid of it. It didn't even make it three

00:48:25.660 weeks. I owned a pub for five years. I know there's, it's a tough business. It's a business

00:48:29.840 with a 5% margin. And I think the managers of the ship and anchor were drinking too much of

00:48:35.460 their own toilet water, listening to their own hipster customers and believing them when they

00:48:40.060 say, oh, we'll support you. No, they won't. They're cheap and they're fickle. And what would happen if

00:48:46.500 you've got six people together and even if five of them said, we want to go to the ship and anchor,

00:48:51.200 but one of them says, well, I don't have a vax passport. Guess what? All six of them will go 1.00

00:48:54.640 somewhere else. It was just bad business. And hey, it's their choice. It's their choice as a business.

00:49:00.380 I think they have the right to ask for vaccinations today if they want to continue to be stupid, 0.99

00:49:04.320 but they got rid of it two weeks ago because it didn't last. It didn't make it. It's like those 0.99

00:49:08.360 no tip businesses too. When they try it in restaurants, always fails. Not usually fails,

00:49:12.860 always fails. Living wage restaurants. They've done that all over North America. I've been

00:49:17.040 tracking those because again, as a bar owner, I watch these guys virtue signaling. Oh,

00:49:20.760 you're going to pay a living wage. And again, the hipsters, oh yes, we'll patronize. No,

00:49:23.660 when they see a $25 cheeseburger, they go somewhere else. And the living wage thing

00:49:28.140 goes down the toilet. It stops. It's virtue signaling. It's crap. It's bad business. It

00:49:32.060 doesn't work. And the ship and anchor did it to themselves. So I have a little pity for them.

00:49:36.700 Still, they're small business owners. I hope they do fine. I don't really care down at this point.

00:49:40.340 I like to point out those examples because the Calgary Chamber of Commerce, Deborah Yedlin, 0.99

00:49:45.380 was also saying similar stupidity, saying that businesses are actually better in having vaccine 0.99

00:49:50.980 mandates and it actually draws more people in than without. That's as stupid as the government when 1.00

00:49:55.020 they're telling us that carbon taxes make life more affordable. This is the pap they feed us. 1.00

00:49:59.540 We got to stop eating it. All right, I'm ranted out. I'm going to bring our guest in here, Jody

00:50:04.760 Gateman. I see her in the lobby. I talked a little bit about it before, but maybe we'll get Jody to

00:50:08.720 kind of explain what happened down there. So let's pop her in here. Hey, Jody, how are you doing out

00:50:15.020 there? Good morning. How are you doing, Corey? Good. Good to see you. So I kind of framed it up

00:50:19.840 a bit before you got into the lobby, but we'll give a bit of background on what happened. Which

00:50:24.160 constituency, actually, I didn't write that down. Is it Little Bo you were looking for the nomination

00:50:27.540 in so little bow doesn't exist anymore when the ndp redrew the constituencies it's now cardston

00:50:33.700 sixica and disappeared that's why i ask i need to keep up with things because i know you live down

00:50:40.180 there i think you were in little bow turf at one time yes was in little bow correct okay and uh

00:50:45.700 so you've been you know give a bit more background i said to others i mean we were on the board in

00:50:49.140 the wild rose together many years ago you've been politically active for a long time uh you know if

00:50:54.420 if I'd thought you were some sort of a crazed lunatic who posts inappropriate things all over 1.00

00:50:58.440 the place, I probably wouldn't want to talk to you on the show, but you're not, you're not at all. 0.92

00:51:02.420 And, and they, they basically, they, you must've been gaining steam in the nomination because they

00:51:07.240 found an excuse to disqualify you then. That's, that definitely seems to be the, the preview.

00:51:15.340 I did sit as the vice president of communications for the United Conservative Party back in 2018.

00:51:21.140 that was an elected position by the members of the united conservative party i was vetted at

00:51:26.460 that time in order to be able to run for that position so i was good enough in 2018 but all

00:51:32.220 of a sudden in 2020 not so much um yeah this qualification came five days after um after the

00:51:41.920 close of nominations and they were citing two posts back in 2015 so that was eight eight years

00:51:51.760 ago um well before i ran for vice president of communications um they were one post was in

00:52:00.620 regards to raccoons um that lady had posted a meme in regards to she wanted her raccoons out 0.53

00:52:08.660 of her basement. She'd like the exterminator to remove them, get them gone from the house.

00:52:13.160 And that this is why she didn't care whether the exterminator wore a suit or a uniform,

00:52:18.380 so long as he got the raccoons out of her basement. That was in reference to explaining

00:52:25.100 why she didn't care that Trump was not as polished and such. But if he was willing to get the raccoons,

00:52:32.920 the self-serving blundering politicians her words not mine um out of the basement that that that's 1.00

00:52:40.280 why she would support that person um and i said this was a great idea um on my post and i was

00:52:47.160 told that that incites incites violence against politicians um the other post was in 2015 as well

00:52:55.400 it was in regards to um the silent majority being coming irrelevant um there was a lot of people

00:53:03.480 then that was during the benghazi time there was a lot of um speaking tours going on in regards to

00:53:09.960 when people stay silent then bad things can happen and it doesn't matter whether you're in

00:53:14.600 nazi germany or afghanistan or the salem witch trials 25 of the people are those who believe

00:53:21.640 that things should be different and that they can go about doing them in horrible ways

00:53:25.560 and the other 75 have to speak up and say this doesn't represent us this doesn't say who we are

00:53:31.640 if they remain silent then the only thing you get to see is the side that's talking negative and

00:53:37.800 radical and things like that um so i was talking about the fact that the silent majority becomes

00:53:42.760 irrelevant and i used an example of a professor who had just put out a horrible post about islam

00:53:51.240 and all these negative things and i was using it as an example to say when people remain silent when

00:53:57.240 the majority of people don't stand up and say this is wrong this doesn't represent us this isn't who

00:54:01.640 we are that people will put these things out there because that's the only part of it they see the

00:54:06.280 silent majority actually makes certain things irrelevant and allows bad things to happen

00:54:11.160 that they said was um my long-standing history of posting hateful and anti-muslim items

00:54:19.320 yeah and so part of that too usually with a nomination disqualification they're pretty

00:54:26.760 quiet I mean if there's real reasons for it they'll offer the candidate just kind of say look

00:54:30.500 we're going to quietly say no and we're not going to go on further about it and we'll just let you

00:54:35.560 go your way and we'll go ours but they kind of went out of their way to go after you after this

00:54:39.600 thing um yes uh I was disqualified on Saturday and on Monday morning Mr. Kenny in a reporter

00:54:46.940 filled press conference said that this yeah there's only two of us so it wasn't it wasn't

00:54:53.160 like you couldn't tell who he was talking about that this person yeah has a long-standing history

00:54:57.920 of this he certainly went after my good name and character um and and and had no no qualms about it

00:55:04.460 in in a public forum um it's one thing to come talk to me and say you're concerned about this

00:55:09.400 that this could possibly be a reputational risk i've never been considered a reputational risk on

00:55:15.600 any board or any committee I've ever sat on um but it's a whole different ball game to do it in a

00:55:21.040 in a public place like that without without having backed up his statement um he said I don't know

00:55:27.800 anything about the nominations you know there's a betting process but then proceeded to slander me

00:55:33.380 directly um that's that's an interesting way to uh to take it yeah well if I recall I think it was

00:55:42.820 Western Standard reporter who asked that question at that conference. I could be wrong, but she

00:55:47.880 asked about that. I think it was Amber. And part of it probably is Premier Kennedy didn't even want

00:55:52.360 to go into that if he couldn't, if he could avoid it. But it was, I do recall also, as you said,

00:55:57.740 he said he doesn't know anything about it, but then went on at length about all the stuff he

00:56:00.340 knows about it or claimed to. That's the thing. I'm thinking this is a good shot with Tim being

00:56:08.840 disqualified and myself within days of one another for very similar items um i think it's a shot

00:56:14.680 across the bow for um other people who want to step forth those of us who yeah hard-working

00:56:20.920 albertans who take the time out to say the status quo isn't isn't doing it for me i'm willing to

00:56:25.960 challenge the status quo um he's saying are you he's going to make sure that you think about this

00:56:30.740 are you sure you want to do this because it is very possible that you could get your name dragged

00:56:34.840 through the mud. Was the post that I put up the best post? Was it written properly back eight

00:56:40.920 years ago? I probably could have done more diplomatic writing. Was it the best example

00:56:46.780 to use? Probably not. But those are all hindsight. Did it lift me to the level of candidate

00:56:52.900 disqualification? Absolutely not. I pointed out to the appeals board that I sit on two committees

00:57:00.140 that have national security clearance that in order for me to sit there and I know have to

00:57:04.780 tick the box that I've been disqualified as a candidate for a political party because that bar

00:57:08.780 is usually very very high which means I could be moved into secondary screening or possibly removed

00:57:14.300 from those committees this isn't just about you know you don't get to run as a as a challenger

00:57:19.820 this affects my committee work my community work as well as stuff I do on the farm it's uh I don't

00:57:26.360 think they take it into real life context exactly what they're doing to to those of us who are just

00:57:31.180 stepping up it's it's we're not trying a new socialistic wing we're not we're simply saying

00:57:38.100 the status quo we'd like to challenge it and for them to disqualify us on these weak grounds shows

00:57:44.260 me that they're scared of having new people in there and i guess albertans have to ask why why

00:57:49.300 is it that the ucpu party will not let its members make this decision um i i'm sorry but the

00:57:56.980 nomination process in this moment in time the way it's been handled with me i think is a joke um

00:58:02.660 just to go a little further on that i phoned all of my references that i listed on my nomination

00:58:08.260 sheet would you like to know how many of them were contacted none not one was phoned not one um how

00:58:17.300 do you do a nomination when when you're not even phoning their references when when you're attacking

00:58:22.340 them about eight-year-old social media posts you just come a great show on like this this goes

00:58:29.780 beyond interference this is yeah you're you're you're dragging people's good names through the

00:58:34.260 mud for no reason it gets on to character assassination getting beyond that though i

00:58:40.340 guess more to the root though why then that that you decided to run against i believe it was a show

00:58:45.300 or showers is your incumbent down there up just you know why did you feel that his nomination

00:58:50.340 should be challenged um well one of the reasons i felt it was challenged is i am in my counselor

00:58:57.060 role i hear from a lot of people that mr scout doesn't get back to them the mla is not returning

00:59:02.500 phone calls he's not returning emails he's he's not showing up at events um and i i think four

00:59:08.740 years of of not representing the riding needed to be challenged it needed somebody to stand up that

00:59:14.020 is your job as a representative if you are an mla in edmonton your first and foremost job is to

00:59:21.220 represent the people in your riding um that's what the job's all about and if you can't return phone

00:59:27.220 calls and you can't return emails and you can't be at places because you're too busy then you need

00:59:32.100 to adjust what is it that you have to take off your plate what is it that you have to maybe hire

00:59:36.180 out but those of us who are business owners do that right on a regular basis if i can't get to

00:59:40.980 the book work do i need to hire someone to do the book work or do i need to hire someone to

00:59:44.900 go bed the calves which is it that comes off that plate so i just felt that the status quo had to

00:59:50.500 be challenged and one of the problems was you need a six month membership within the uc party party

00:59:56.260 in good standings you open up a nomination race with only 14 days um how do you meet that

01:00:02.580 qualification those nominations should never been opened other than seven months at minimum

01:00:07.060 because then you can think about it you can talk to your family you can talk to your community

01:00:10.900 and say, do I really want to do this?

01:00:12.840 Do I want to run?

01:00:13.760 And then you've got time to meet those qualifications.

01:00:15.860 But at this moment in time, you've limited it down to a very few number of people who

01:00:19.960 have that.

01:00:20.880 And will they be willing to step forward and go through this?

01:00:24.720 I was one of those people.

01:00:26.120 I've been involved in politics since I was yay high.

01:00:28.720 I was willing to challenge the status quo.

01:00:32.040 Mr. K took a personal swipe at me, but that doesn't mean I'm down and out.

01:00:37.200 Well, and moving beyond that, I mean, as other people speculate, I mean, both

01:00:40.740 yourself and mr hoven have been working quite hard on your nominations you've been selling

01:00:44.300 memberships you've been working the ground and now there's a whole lot of frustrated infuriated

01:00:50.580 members who probably i i would think might not have been willing to spend 99 bucks to drive up

01:00:55.720 to red deer and cast a ballot but now they're feeling more inspired than ever to do so like i

01:00:59.780 i just feel this might backfire even more than losing a nomination well i certainly think it

01:01:05.660 would have been a better idea to let the nomination play out and let people have their say they're

01:01:09.680 definitely feeling like their say has been taken away from them. They say they're smart people and

01:01:14.680 I agree. Members are smart people and they can make the choice as to whether a candidate is good

01:01:19.760 or not. We don't need the party babysitting that to this particular level. So no, you've got some

01:01:26.060 people that are fired up and I know lots that have said I wasn't intending to go to Red Deer but now

01:01:31.200 for sure I am. It's an interesting risk that Mr. Kenney decided to take, interesting risk that the

01:01:37.920 united conservative party decided to take and i guess we'll see how it plays out on april 9th

01:01:42.200 um but uh there's lots of people down here that are saying they're headed to red deer

01:01:48.700 um i know a couple buses are headed up that way so uh we'll see how it plays out but they're not

01:01:54.860 happy down here at all yeah well there's a lot of uh i was saying earlier in the show i mean

01:02:00.060 nominations are where some of the worst political shenanigans always happen uh but i remember i

01:02:05.640 I mean, an incumbent candidate, if you're an incumbent government MLA, typically it's not that hard to maintain support.

01:02:13.060 It's rare when they get unseated in a nomination.

01:02:15.120 If they're just, as you said, returning phone calls, showing up for some town hall meetings and council meetings, even as a backbencher, you have a pretty good chance nobody's going to manage to get up there and unseat you.

01:02:25.180 You know, you can just stay the course.

01:02:27.320 And they made their own bed when they get challenged.

01:02:30.380 We saw that in High River.

01:02:31.600 I'm forgetting his name.

01:02:32.460 I don't want to go into it anyways.

01:02:33.320 we see if he wasn't tight enough with the UCP, I think as well. So they let it go and he lost his

01:02:38.340 nomination. But I do know from living up that way, he was a bad MLA as far as that went. He didn't

01:02:42.820 talk to people. He didn't come out. You never heard from him. He was a placeholder. So he lost

01:02:46.940 that chance. And we see this is more than just losing an MLA. It would be politically inconvenient

01:02:53.340 at this time for the government, I think, to be losing some nominations. That's more at the root

01:02:57.100 of it. I 100% agree with you. Yeah. Definitely to the root of it. That's for sure. The unfortunate

01:03:05.820 thing is you've now taken a beautiful conservative riding like cards in Siksika, and you've now made

01:03:12.080 it vulnerable for the next election. You could have anybody come in here right now because people

01:03:18.120 are upset. They were upset that their choice was taken away from them. And they're willing to look

01:03:23.640 elsewhere now that's scary um going into an election in 2023 um so this was an interesting

01:03:30.280 an interesting poll you could have slid aside resources to your candidate of your choice

01:03:36.440 if you wanted to but to disqualify two candidates that are well known in their communities

01:03:41.560 conservative minded have sat on multiple committees government branches round tables

01:03:47.220 and disqualify them at this low level going into a leadership review i'm hoping yeah uh that's

01:03:54.900 that's a risky move because you're walking right into an election and you've made this riding

01:03:59.140 vulnerable um i hate to say it but but people are tired of the government interference well yeah well

01:04:05.420 and i i was just talking to paul him and before he's working on his by-election up in in fort

01:04:09.820 mac right now but when you've got somebody like him organizing on your flank he's a guy that they

01:04:14.160 often underestimate but if you took Paul in a general election and stuck him down there in the

01:04:18.780 atmosphere in your writing I got a feeling he could split that vote quite easily in half at the

01:04:23.340 very least at the very least and uh just the history of that writing uh when Ian Donovan won

01:04:29.740 it in the past I was on the executive at that time and there was a massive nomination battle

01:04:33.660 and a lot of uh hard feelings out of that one but still it wasn't any of that dirty play going on

01:04:38.780 like this um it was a hard battle i remember that one um and uh yeah um there were some hard feelings

01:04:46.700 however um the mla that that uh mr donovan when he took that he did go back in to heal those items

01:04:54.020 and talk about them and and he didn't sweep them under the rug that's that's kind of the difference

01:04:58.560 it's kind of what uh what we're asking to try to go back to i just my question is why what why is

01:05:05.320 that the political leaders of today don't want that to happen why don't they want us to have a

01:05:09.960 say so i know you're pretty busy now with uh calving season and everything going on i'll let

01:05:15.160 you go pretty soon but i did also just kind of want to ask where are you going now what's your

01:05:20.200 plan at this point well right now um i i do have my membership um so i will be headed up april 9th

01:05:28.040 to have my say um in regards to mr kenny's leadership um and we'll see how that political

01:05:33.880 landscape kind of plays out um yeah i i haven't i haven't you know i haven't decided where

01:05:41.960 politically i want to go um i do think that the status quo needs to be challenged and i'm willing

01:05:46.520 to stand up and challenge it um where that where that vehicle is i don't know quite yet i think

01:05:53.240 we're all kind of waiting on the march 15th to the by-election and the april 9th the april 9th

01:05:59.080 leadership review to uh to decide where we're going to kind of park ourselves politically for

01:06:03.880 the next little while yeah well there's a whole lot politically in the air in alberta right now

01:06:09.080 i got a feeling we're uh in for some tumultuous times for a while yet to come i mean even if uh

01:06:15.160 premier kenny survives the the leadership and red deer uh it's a very divided party and a lot of

01:06:20.280 upset people and and they're not going to give up at that point so we'll see what happens but i'll

01:06:25.560 let you get back to those cattle out there thank you very much for joining us today to explain that

01:06:30.040 and talk about it and uh we'll be up there with our uh coverage of the western standard and red

01:06:35.080 deer that weekend so maybe i'll see you while you're up there awesome i'll see you there corey

01:06:38.920 thank you great thanks jody so yes that was jody gateman who was running for the nomination in

01:06:45.000 cardston sixica uh i'm probably missing something on that constituency down there again but just

01:06:51.080 of South Calgary down South Blackie area and getting all the way down used to be Littlebow.

01:06:55.460 And yeah, you know, just to review, she obviously was getting close to winning it. That's part of

01:07:01.160 it too. I mean, the government doesn't mind if somebody just comes out and sells 10 memberships

01:07:04.140 and loses a nomination, they can look like they were paying attention to democracy at that point.

01:07:10.060 But if their candidate actually starts becoming at risk, then they suddenly feel compelled to act

01:07:15.180 and they went digging. And it's interesting, you know, on shaky ground. I mean, it really was.

01:07:19.280 Jody's not somebody who came out of nowhere either is Tim Hovind I mean they were both

01:07:23.280 elected in council type positions they've been vetted before they didn't have big red flags

01:07:29.660 their biggest red flag was that they were threatening an existing candidate and they

01:07:33.280 could embarrass the premier shortly before a review by dislodging them I'm kind of more surprised

01:07:39.120 that they went after Jody with Hovind I can see it in a sense that Hovind was about to dislodge

01:07:45.140 Kenny's right-hand man. It looked like he might take Nixon out of the race, which would really

01:07:51.160 embarrass the government. But at the same time, I don't know, I've heard estimates that he sold as

01:07:55.680 many as 1,500 memberships. Well, of those 1,500, now they're ticked off, and they're right next

01:08:01.080 to Red Deer. It's not hard to spend 99 bucks, drive out there, and cast their ballot, and say

01:08:06.400 what they think. But I mean, Kenny was in a rock and a hard place. Also, you lose a senior minister

01:08:10.620 in a nomination, and you look like a weenie as well, and that doesn't help you and make you look

01:08:14.040 stronger on your way into a leadership review. It's just an unholy mess. I don't, I don't know

01:08:18.920 how he can pull himself out of it. I know people keep talking about his, um, and I know it's true

01:08:23.980 is his organizational abilities. He's a smart guy. He's played politics since high school,

01:08:28.600 basically, but he just can't seem to get a grasp on things at this level of politics. He hasn't

01:08:34.020 been able to do it. And, uh, that happened with the UCP AGM. Uh, that's where Todd Lowe and I had

01:08:39.920 him on. He's talking about getting the RCMP to have a look even because there were some

01:08:43.420 constitutional changes being put forward to protect the premier and things like that

01:08:47.020 at the AGM. And he lost. Enough people came out to the AGM, that vote lost. So the organizer,

01:08:53.240 as hard as he pushed, you know, all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't fix the

01:08:56.860 AGM again. And he's going to have a real problem on April 9th. He said that 50% plus one is enough

01:09:03.480 for him to stay on. But my, if he came in with 52% in April, that party is going to be ripped

01:09:09.780 to shreds if he doesn't step down. Just rip to shreds. And it does, the other part is just

01:09:18.240 personal. I mean, the character assassination that was done on Hoven and Gateman, you're doing your

01:09:22.940 political play, guys, you're saving your party, or you think you are, or you're saving the premier,

01:09:27.460 but to take somebody innocent, somebody who was just running in a nomination that you didn't want

01:09:31.740 them to run in, and then to try and smear them as the usual things of racist and intolerant, 0.98

01:09:37.540 all that crap is unforgivable. And I'm sick of seeing it. It's not helping our province. It's 0.99

01:09:42.800 not helping that party. You know, if Notley does win another term, Foley lands on the lap of the

01:09:48.700 current government. It's theirs to lose. You know, the last conservative government in Alberta

01:09:53.060 lasted for, what, 47 years? Once they're in, they can hold it. Well, Kenny's been in three years,

01:09:59.440 and he's on the brink of losing it. Get it together and attacking your own members.

01:10:03.940 this isn't going to help you. This isn't going to build the strength. It's going to save you.

01:10:08.780 I'm not even talking just about this, this leadership review, but going into the general

01:10:13.320 election that now is only a year away. And his support numbers, if it was held tomorrow,

01:10:17.980 it looks like Notley'd be our premier again. And there's a scary thought.

01:10:22.040 Yeah. So there we go. Nico's brought that up. Sworn in April 30th, 2019. And the review is

01:10:30.840 April 9th, 2022 in Red Deer. And it's going to be, there's going to be, I've heard crazy numbers,

01:10:36.140 thousands of people coming out to vote in that review. That's part of how they tried to kind of

01:10:40.220 rig things was, you know, it was not one member, one vote. You can't vote from home. You've got to

01:10:45.060 make quite a commitment. You got to spend a hundred dollars. You got to take a day off. You

01:10:47.560 got to get all the way out to Red Deer, cast that ballot in person. I think the ballot boxes are

01:10:51.620 only open for six or seven hours. I know from political organizing in the past, it's going to

01:10:57.140 be a gong show. There's going to be huge lineups to vote. There's going to be upset people. There's

01:11:02.520 all completely, well, I don't know. I guess I say it's unnecessary. The only way to avoid it,

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01:14:54.540 Look, it's the same old crap. It's like that government doublespeak I was talking about 0.98

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01:15:07.100 crap. We don't need them. We've had them in BC for years. Again, you can't pretend we haven't 0.99

01:15:11.500 tried them. We put them in. They went there for years. Emissions didn't go down. So if you're

01:15:17.140 going to pretend that it brings emissions down, you're lying. It doesn't work. All it does is

01:15:21.680 cost Canadians more, and we can't afford it right now. Jean Charest is going to keep those taxes

01:15:27.200 going. So keep that in mind. Patrick Brown has officially entered the race now. He's the mayor

01:15:32.820 of Brampton. So he's officially, and he was rumored for quite a while, pretty strongly

01:15:36.800 rumored. He just had his name cleared. CTV, I guess, did a terrible

01:15:40.880 smear on him on some things, on some allegations of sexual misconduct, which

01:15:44.700 it appears were not true. And no coincidence that he's gotten that

01:15:48.760 legally cleared. Of course, they didn't willingly do it by the sounds of it, but that's behind

01:15:52.740 him now. Now, I don't know if he's a good candidate or not. I don't know that well. He's a bit of a

01:15:56.860 red Tory. He was in the PCs in Ontario. One of the things

01:16:00.840 I do remember as the mayor of Brampton, which was impressive though, he was one of the first

01:16:04.280 ones calling out the Ontario medical health officer and saying, give us the real numbers

01:16:09.260 on COVID deaths, not who died with COVID, but people who died of COVID. He was actually poking

01:16:15.160 that nest and not many mayors were doing that, you know, and that's where we have been finding

01:16:19.340 out that the deaths have been inflated by almost a hundred percent because people were, yeah, sure

01:16:23.560 you had COVID, but you died of a massive heart attack and unrelated or, you know, all sorts of

01:16:29.160 things people passed away from. Patrick Brown was actually pushing into that. But aside from that,

01:16:34.500 he's a pretty red Tory, but the more the merrier, you know, getting on to democracy, getting on to

01:16:38.520 what Jody was talking about. Trust the members, trust people to choose. So I don't think that

01:16:45.180 people like Patrick Brown or Jean Charest shouldn't be allowed to run for the leadership

01:16:49.760 of these parties. Of course they should. Get out there and I'll give a little bit of credit where

01:16:53.660 it's due in a sense. At least Charest is being honest about supporting a carbon tax. Botul lied.

01:16:58.760 He lied right in our faces.

01:17:00.380 He stood at a Canadian Taxpayers Federation poster with his signature on it,

01:17:04.620 promising never to bring in a carbon tax.

01:17:06.800 He didn't even make it a year before he flip-flopped on that.

01:17:09.920 At least Sheree is being an honest liberal. 0.83

01:17:11.320 I still wouldn't vote for Sheree, but I can respect that. 0.98

01:17:14.780 And I can respect having a number of different views in a race,

01:17:18.200 as long as they're honest views.

01:17:20.600 And just to pass along, I was, it was going to be during the day,

01:17:24.740 but it's going to be in the evening.

01:17:25.880 I am going to be interviewing Pierre Polyev.

01:17:27.740 He's going to be on the show.

01:17:29.120 I think that's going to run on Wednesday.

01:17:30.860 But, you know, things have been bouncing around all over the place.

01:17:32.960 So that'll be an interesting talk.

01:17:34.040 And I'm going to try and get all these leadership candidates on that I can

01:17:36.840 and get them on for a conversation.

01:17:39.120 As I said, leave it to the members to pick.

01:17:41.340 That's the main thing.

01:17:42.060 Well, you don't have to like them all.

01:17:43.060 Just get them in there. 1.00

01:17:44.740 And one's like the, you know, blocking Gateman likes it.

01:17:47.900 And, again, what's even worse, though, is kicking dirt on her

01:17:50.360 after the nomination was shut down like that.

01:17:53.920 Again, nominations have a lot of dirty play going on.

01:17:56.760 And that was as ugly as it gets in both cases.

01:18:01.780 It was very shaky round.

01:18:02.920 I mean, if it was a true lunatic, even then, I'm a bit more of a democratic-minded person.

01:18:07.580 Like, you think, like, nominations are important.

01:18:09.380 That's how you can vet people.

01:18:11.080 But everybody remembers the Alan Huntsberger thing, you know, and he had his old postings 0.96

01:18:14.980 about how gay people were going to burn in a lake of fire and a bunch of vile stuff. 0.96

01:18:19.820 It was horrible. 0.96

01:18:20.340 I didn't, I was repulsed when I read it and I was managing a campaign during that election, not his, but one of the, in that party.

01:18:29.160 And that should have been found.

01:18:31.000 But the problem was with Huntsberger, he never even ran in a nomination.

01:18:34.280 That's when it would have come up if he'd run in a nomination, if they'd been competing for that riding.

01:18:39.260 The problem was he was a cannon fodder, low-level candidate up at Edmonton in one that UCP was never going to win anyway, or Wildrose at that time, I should say.

01:18:48.720 But if he'd have run in it, it wouldn't have been that disaster, which hurt the whole party.

01:18:53.880 Because I'm sure a competing nomination candidate would have dug into some of that and exposed it.

01:19:00.800 And even then, I'm of a view, you don't kick him out of the nomination when it's at that point.

01:19:04.880 You just expose it and say, come on, people, we don't want this guy representing us.

01:19:07.620 And trust the members. They'll vote so he doesn't end up representing them.

01:19:11.960 Open democracy can work. You've got to trust the people and let them do it.

01:19:15.020 the more people there are, the more rational a choice they're going to make. They're typically

01:19:19.720 going to make the right choice. Sure, a large number of people can vote for the wrong person

01:19:23.400 at times too. We got Trudeau over and over again. But on a nomination level, these are engaged

01:19:27.740 people. These are political party people. Let them do their job. Let them pick who's going to

01:19:33.500 represent them. Get out of the way. But we'll see what's going on there. We got a big federal race

01:19:40.140 going on. Let's see. The Liberal Media

01:19:42.100 loves their Quebec politicians.

01:19:44.780 Ask Pierre about his relationship with the

01:19:46.080 WF. Okay. You know,

01:19:48.120 Judy and Jim Jarotowski. Actually,

01:19:50.280 just to plug, Polyev

01:19:52.060 was on with

01:19:52.900 True North Energy.

01:19:56.360 Man, I'm so bad with names. Andrew Lawton.

01:19:58.540 I know Andrew. I shouldn't forget his

01:20:00.100 name. He was on with him and Andrew asked

01:20:02.180 him about it. And Polyev made it clear

01:20:04.040 in that that he has no relationship with him.

01:20:06.020 He hasn't attended any of their things. He's not a part

01:20:08.000 of it. And I'm at a point of believing

01:20:09.920 him. And, you know, I have gone on with the Western World Economic Forum a number of times

01:20:17.280 and Klaus Schwab, and I do think they're an odious group. I think they've got disgusting goals. 0.70

01:20:21.520 I think they are trying to influence our politicians and our countries, and they are

01:20:26.000 looking to bring about a great reset. At the same time, I don't think everybody who's ever

01:20:30.400 gone to one of their functions as a attendee is necessarily under their thumb or in their control.

01:20:36.820 We've got to be careful with the guilt by association.

01:20:39.020 You know, these guys invite thousands of people to those conferences cumulatively,

01:20:43.540 and they're always influential thousands of people,

01:20:45.440 but it doesn't mean they've always won their support or gotten control of them

01:20:49.100 or anything just because they even attended one of those things. 0.99

01:20:51.180 So there are some people who fully swallow all that crap. 0.99

01:20:53.940 I mean, and Justin Trudeau, I think, is one of them. 0.99

01:20:55.440 He's spoken at one of their conferences.

01:20:56.840 He didn't just attend, and he's talked about the great reset stuff.

01:21:00.500 But, you know, with Pierre Polyev, there's really no solid grounds

01:21:05.040 to say he's at all involved with that thing.

01:21:07.380 So because it was already asked, though, Judy,

01:21:09.120 I'm not going to ask him again

01:21:10.220 because I'd just like to get the fresh ones.

01:21:12.380 And Andrew covered that.

01:21:14.720 I don't know about his net value, Teresa.

01:21:16.660 There's another question, Teresa Haselow.

01:21:19.180 If you go to one of those sites

01:21:20.740 that talks about celebrity net worths,

01:21:22.840 if you want, you Google Corey Morgan

01:21:25.560 and celebrity net worth.

01:21:27.540 And apparently, I think I'm worth

01:21:30.420 one and a half million to $5 million.

01:21:32.520 That's what it says on there somewhere.

01:21:34.120 Somebody, some person on Twitter came attacking me and put that out at me.

01:21:37.760 Oh, I wish.

01:21:39.100 Guys, I'm not even close.

01:21:40.300 I'm sorry.

01:21:40.940 You know, we're many decimals off on my net worth with these things.

01:21:45.960 So if that's the sort of source where it's coming out of, I don't know if you can necessarily

01:21:50.280 trust it.

01:21:52.040 But yeah, somebody on Twitter saying, oh, look at Corey, he's that rich guy who just, you

01:21:55.340 know, he's worth one and he's worth 5 million.

01:21:56.940 Oh God, no, I'm not guys. 0.99

01:21:58.380 Those websites just make up crap. 0.99

01:21:59.780 They really do. 0.99

01:22:01.000 But Pierre might have a bunch of money as well.

01:22:02.480 a connection with bill gates i i might get to that but i you know i where do you go i mean uh

01:22:10.580 did he meet him once somewhere or did he uh my concerns are going to be at least mostly policy

01:22:18.440 wise though i want to be somewhat tough patrick brown was asking him he came out shooting in his

01:22:22.740 campaign actually with um uh saying that pier doesn't uh properly value free religion and

01:22:30.680 things like that i i gotta see farther where he's going he didn't i don't think he felt brown

01:22:34.060 opposed bill 21 enough or some stuff like that i might ask him a little bit of that stuff um as

01:22:39.580 uh nico's been putting it up there yeah you can also you know pass these questions on to me at

01:22:43.120 cory b morgan and um that's the twitter account and email is uh c morgan at western standard

01:22:50.440 online.com nico had that up there earlier yeah send them in i i can't guarantee i'll get those

01:22:54.740 questions i only got 15 minutes with them but i'll certainly try to get some good ones i don't want

01:22:58.900 to be just, you know, more of the usual mushy stuff. We get enough of that. Uh, but it's a

01:23:03.420 big, interesting, uh, race. And, uh, you're seeing it was on Wikipedia where that worth was. Okay. I

01:23:09.760 have to look into it. But again, even if his worth is 9 million, the other thing is I don't

01:23:13.120 really think it's, you know, to be blunt, not much of my business. Um, unless there was some

01:23:16.980 sort of direct correlation to say there was something wrong and how he got it. I've got no

01:23:20.340 issue with somebody if they've got money. I mean, I just don't know, but we'll see. I doubt I'll ask

01:23:24.820 him uh much about that bill c67 that one is uh getting into provincial politics and uh um

01:23:36.340 it's it's an ontario issue and that's a that's uh there's a couple of columns we put up actually

01:23:40.500 barbara k put one up today talk about it it's essentially a form of critical race theory going 0.97

01:23:44.820 into schools and they and they put it in that i might ask a bit about it but i'm not sure if he

01:23:49.460 again how are you going to pull him into a provincial issue he's looking running for a

01:23:52.020 federal spot. These are tough questions worth checking into, that's for sure. I mean, immigration

01:23:59.100 is definitely a roughneck nation saying, you know, an important topic to broach. Absolutely.

01:24:03.560 That is one. I think probably I've actually just put out a thing talking about how he wants to

01:24:08.440 fast track certain immigrants and things like that. And I'd like him to flesh that out a little

01:24:13.280 more. I mean, I, and I know with roughneck nation there, he's, he's, he's always been outspoken

01:24:18.520 about uncontrolled immigration. I think we have different views on it. I think I'd like to see 0.94

01:24:24.060 more immigration, but I do want it to be careful, not just an unfiltered, hey, here's the doors are

01:24:28.280 open, pour on in. But at the same time, I think we get a lot of value with smart immigration

01:24:33.040 policies and bringing people in. But yeah, that's a good one. I do want to talk to them. So thank

01:24:37.860 you for that about immigration while I got them. Getting near the end of things here. One other 0.97

01:24:43.260 thing that popped up on the news uh quickly uh yeah basic universal income that's another one

01:24:48.740 good one and I'll be going pretty soon so uh email them if you got more and again I can't promise

01:24:52.420 I'll hit them all but I'll certainly uh take all of them into consideration it makes my job easier

01:24:56.960 for my list of questions to hit them with I just want to shoot it Tom Brady is back hey is is uh

01:25:02.580 just you know going totally off topic here just to break things off for the day on the show anyhow

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01:25:13.000 Steelers fan, but you got to admit, I mean, my God, Tom Brady's getting, he's near my age and he's

01:25:18.080 still, uh, still one of the best out there. The bugger. I was kind of happy seeing him finally 0.99

01:25:23.360 retire, but the story that came out, so he's after six weeks, eight weeks, whatever it was

01:25:27.400 of saying he's retiring, he changed his mind. So he's back for another couple or a few years,

01:25:30.340 but somebody at an auction bought a football. And I guess it was the last touchdown that Tom

01:25:35.560 Brady ever threw. And they were assuming at this auction that this was going to be the last one

01:25:39.720 ever. This was going to be a noteworthy sports memorabilia football, the last touchdown ever

01:25:44.040 thrown by the greatest quarterback of all time. And he spent $500,000 on that thing. Well, now

01:25:49.480 that Brady's coming back, assuming he scores at least one touchdown on his return, that will no

01:25:54.080 longer be the last touchdown ball thrown by Tom Brady. So what a terrible loss on an investment

01:26:03.160 in short order. Oh, well, I guess if you've got half a million to spend on a football, I'm sure

01:26:07.960 the guy's got money to burn in some other ways anyways but that's one of the worst investments

01:26:11.560 in a while uh mike asking what time is the interview it's a recorded one uh it's gonna

01:26:15.540 be a little later tomorrow and i'm gonna run it on wednesday it's a part of the problem of the

01:26:19.140 live show is it's difficult um to get guests in you know at that exact time so sometimes we got

01:26:25.980 to record them at times especially during a campaign uh patrick brown yeah i remember that

01:26:30.220 the believe in jesus saying uh shut down sports facilities but he and his buddies continue to play

01:26:33.820 hockey. Yeah. I think it was a rebel cameraman. I caught him there or even the menzoid. I can't

01:26:37.800 remember for sure. So yes, lots to go over tomorrow. Uh, for now, I'm going to try and get

01:26:43.500 another guest for the moment I got, uh, cause initially it was going to be Paul. Yeah, but I

01:26:47.820 had to bump it a little later. I do have Drew Barnes coming on though. And, uh, he's the

01:26:52.840 independent MLA for medicine hat. He wrote a column that's on the Western standard online.com.

01:26:57.520 And actually he's kind of, uh, been a bit critical of Paul Hinman on, on perhaps Paul's choice to

01:27:02.780 run in that by-election up in Fort McMurray there. So it'll be interesting to talk to Drew and why

01:27:09.920 he thinks that might not be a good idea or is. So that'll be a good conversation. And what else?

01:27:16.940 Okay. Ask him to denounce them. He already denounced the WAF basically in the other interview,

01:27:22.400 Timothy. I don't want to get repetitive. I only get these guys so often. As I said,

01:27:27.180 Lawton covered it quite well. Arts organizations who get Alberta Foundation arts money.

01:27:32.780 You know, I'll have a look into that.

01:27:35.160 Hertz Foundation, I'll look at that.

01:27:38.420 For something else as a story.

01:27:41.580 All right, but I think I've kind of covered it for today, guys.

01:27:44.280 Thank you very much for tuning in on this Monday with our crazy move

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Western Standard - March 15, 2022

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