00:09:16.020and it's absurd to expect people to somehow simply jump over and get into an electric vehicle.
00:09:20.940let them drive electric indeed yes the modern version of let them eat cake it's unreasonable
00:09:27.520and it's insulting and that's what's coming from our federal political leadership right now
00:09:31.780and that's what's got me triggered today okay well let's bring in our news editor Dave Naylor
00:09:37.220to talk about the other stories that are topping the scroll today hey Dave how's it going good
00:09:42.640good morning Corey I enjoyed your rant and I've got to say you that's nice that tie looks very
00:09:48.600very uh sharp very snazzy well well thank you i mean your shopping mishaps are my opportunities
00:09:55.080so i i appreciate your uh you know over purchasing of stuff uh just so you know i i'm in the market
00:10:01.400for some more underwear as well yeah you're always there for me cory and i i do appreciate that uh
00:10:06.920yeah i'm still trying to figure out all this modern technology and uh uh when i was ordering
00:10:11.880some ties on amazon last week i accidentally ordered uh six and i got 12 by hitting the
00:10:17.640duplicate buttons. Every man in the office got a tie and every woman got a tie to take home to
00:10:23.960her man. So it was a happy day on Monday for the Western Standard staff. But on to more important
00:10:31.860things, the news. The major story of the morning, Corey, is the UCP have disqualified Tim Hoven.
00:10:39.740He's an Eckville cattle rancher who was trying to seek the nomination in the writing of Rocky
00:10:46.040Mountain House, Rimby Sundry, to try and replace Jason Nixon, the government house leader.
00:10:51.640He was seen as a strong challenger, but the UCP party bigwigs disqualified him this morning
00:10:58.420because of an inactive social media account that he had on a platform called Gab,
00:11:05.400which apparently, and he liked a couple of tweets from what the UCP is calling
00:11:10.960known hate mongers, and they said that was reason enough to expel them.
00:11:19.340Corey, this is going to start a huge wave of anger in rural Alberta, and I know your guest,
00:11:25.480David Parker, will be coming on later. He's already talked to Linda Slobodian, who has
00:11:31.720written up our story. He's using some very, very strong rhetoric on how angry people will be in
00:11:39.480the area over this. And our Amber Gosling in Edmonton is on her way right now to a
00:11:44.980Premier Kenney press conference in the capitals to grill him on what exactly happened here.0.99
00:11:53.620In other news, you remember that moron who was dancing up and down on the0.98
00:11:57.820Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at the start of the truckers protest. Well, the MPs on the0.99
00:12:04.440justice committee have quietly dropped their investigation into it. The woman still hasn't
00:12:10.300been identified. Ottawa police would refuse to testify. So they've just quietly said she was
00:12:17.100very naughty and let's move on. Poll out today on the initial Tory leadership race among conservative
00:12:26.880voters pierre poly have well ahead at 41 percent uh nearest challenger is jean chere way back at
00:12:35.12010 percent uh the uh commons uh foreign affairs committee was told uh last night that canadians
00:12:42.240should brace themselves that this war in the ukraine is going to go on for a long time
00:12:47.840uh the comparisons to the uh the bloody invasion of chechnya and how that dragged on was brought up
00:12:54.080and all the military people are saying yeah this this is likely to go on for a while trudeau as
00:13:00.560you know corey is in europe uh uh prancing around the the capitals there to try and solve this whole
00:13:07.200mess uh he's talking strongly in europe about you know how important democracy is and he's uh he's
00:13:14.080taking a twitter pounding uh pointing out or people are pointing out the fact that uh this is
00:13:19.920is the guy who, you know, helped freeze truckers' banks accounts and brought in the Emergencies
00:13:26.260Act. He's talking in European countries about how democracy is so important. So our mail
00:13:32.500resident has put together a good piece on that, chock full of videos and memes. Stats Canada
00:13:40.040has announced they're finally going to start compiling statistics on smuggled guns or stolen
00:13:47.640guns that are used in in crimes in canada uh firearm supporters like yourself have uh have
00:13:54.280long argued that the majority of gun crimes are are organized crime and using smuggled or illegal
00:14:00.840handguns so they're finally going to start keeping some stats on that and uh mike thomas uh as uh as
00:14:09.000nico's already put up on the screen he's got a good rant similar to yours on uh you know europe
00:14:15.080is uh embroiled in a massive war right now and all anybody can talk about is electric cars so
00:14:21.800that's what's up there now uh coming this afternoon as mentioned uh we'll be at the kenny press
00:14:27.080conference that goes at 12 30 and our amanda brown is putting together a story on the canadians going
00:14:34.120over to the ukraine to fight uh 550 of them so far in fact so many the canadians are being given their
00:14:41.320own uh battalion uh to fight in and interestingly one of the world's if not the world's best sniper
00:14:49.480a canada former canadian military uh officer has gone over to join the fight too he was among that
00:14:56.360group of canadian snipers in afghanistan who were uh killing taliban from two two and a half miles
00:15:03.000away with uh with incredible shots so yet another busy day corey lots of stuff up already and uh
00:15:09.960lots more stuff to come great well thanks for the update dave and yes thanks again for the tie though
00:15:15.400i mean it's undercutting this passive aggressive battle i've had with derek over the requirement
00:15:19.560of ties in this place but uh i i still appreciate the uh sharing of it all the same so well you know
00:15:26.040now you've got that one i think that brings your total to three ties so something like that
00:15:31.240you're almost getting there to one a week yeah i'm even starting to tie him correctly now he's
00:15:35.080beating me down i hate to admit it there you go all right thanks dave we'll talk to you later
00:15:40.360take care corey great so just uh as nico has up there a reminder to everybody you know we
00:15:45.640as he said amanda brown's one of our new reporters she's just been working hard on those stories and
00:15:50.520getting them out there we've got people in ottawa now in edmonton bc all over uh linda
00:15:55.160slobodian's coming from uh manitoba and we're doing all of that because we have members and
00:16:00.840subscribers and we really appreciate those people who are already subscribers with the western
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00:16:10.200behalf i like that idea you know if you got that that uh goofy left-wing uncle who drives you nuts
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00:16:39.120helps us keep expanding and bringing you that unfiltered news. And before I get to my guest
00:16:43.540there, because it is going to be a lively chat, Dave segued that well when we're talking about
00:16:48.480firearms. You know, isn't this something? The government's been looking to take away our
00:16:53.260firearms, looking to demonize, you know, law-abiding firearm owners all the time,
00:16:57.560recategorizing firearms. Now we're finding out they never even really had statistics on
00:17:02.000what kind or how many are being used in crimes. It's ridiculous, yet somehow they can
00:17:07.740come out and start banning whole categories of them and taking away your property.
00:17:12.780Well, the Canada Shooting Sports Association, these guys are the association, their name says
00:17:17.600it all for those of us who responsibly, legally like enjoying firearms, whatever way you please,
00:17:22.400whether it's target shooting, hunting, or even just collecting. It's not really anybody's business
00:17:26.480as long as you're not hurting anybody, you can do what you want with them, or at least you should
00:17:29.980be able to. These guys give the resources for you. I mean, everything from videos on good,
00:17:34.820safe handling of firearms to when there's trade shows and firearm events coming up,
00:17:39.260things such as that. And as well, most importantly to me, they have legal challenges pushing back
00:17:45.640against the federal government on your behalf to make sure that you can maintain and continue to
00:17:51.360have those firearms. If we don't stand up for ourselves, they will take it away. We've seen
00:17:55.620that. We've seen that with their rights. As Dave was saying in his news update, you know,
00:17:59.020people are laughing at Trudeau. The international media is laughing at him because here he is
00:18:03.320wagging his finger at international leaders because he's worried about authoritarianism.
00:18:09.820He practices it so heavily back here in Canada. He wants control. He loves control. And part of
00:18:16.040that means taking away your property. So check out the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.
00:18:21.580take out a membership with them their website cssa-cila.org and help them stand up for your
00:18:28.500rights you got to do it for yourself because no one else is going to do it for you okay speaking
00:18:32.880of grassroots movements standing up for things and pushing back let's get david parker in he's
00:18:38.580with uh take back alberta and discuss that initiative that's going on there with the
00:18:43.560wild and crazy world of the united conservative party and the the constant battles hey david
00:18:49.640how's it going hey cory good to see you i believe the last time i was on your show wasn't quite as
00:18:55.480uh beautiful so things are really improving at the western standard i see our technology has come a
00:19:01.240long way yeah it's going up and also i want to say that the last time i was on your show i was a
00:19:05.960little bit inebriated and a little unkind and i'd like to apologize for that and uh and i did say
00:19:11.640that um if aaron o'toole didn't win 10 seats my whole reputation was on the line so i have to eat
00:19:17.320crow on that and aaron o'toole was not nearly as good as i thought he was but you were right on
00:19:21.800that so i just wanted to thank you for that it was a good part of the early stages of the show to
00:19:27.400learn about everything i've been developing as well so okay when we start getting uh a little
00:19:31.640because i got all worked up during that too i'm a much better temper now i wait until after the show
00:19:35.880before i really start cursing and swearing so it was all part of the building so it's great yeah
00:19:41.880absolutely so getting on a little more contemporary though and no less uh contentious uh you guys i
00:19:48.200guess your group is take back alberta and i the bottom line is you're organizing to make sure
00:19:53.080enough people go to red deer on april 9th and register and vote to change out the the leader
00:19:58.600of the ucp i guess that's kind of it in a nutshell right well take back alberta is more than just
00:20:03.560that we're very much an educational organization that's trying to teach civic values to albertans
00:20:08.920because as you probably know canada is the least civically engaged nation on earth
00:20:13.560less than one percent of canadians own memberships and political parties and less than point one five
00:20:19.320percent of those people donate volunteer and sit on boards and i mean as a former uh political
00:20:25.400activist yourself to some degree i'm sure you know how little people like to get involved in
00:20:29.480these things right oh yeah um so what i really see take back alberta as is a way of showing people
00:20:37.080how to get involved and how to how to actually make a difference because there's a lot of people
00:20:40.920that are very angry with jason kenny i think we saw a poll recently that came out the western
00:20:44.680standard saying that 60 over 60 percent of ucp members want jason kenny to resign so i think
00:20:53.400i think a lot of albertans want this but a lot of them don't know how the process works
00:20:57.240and things like special general meetings or annual general meetings that's not part of their regular
00:21:02.120life so you got to kind of walk them through the process but we've been massively successful at
00:21:06.840explaining it to people i think okay so well we've got the meeting coming up and there's some
00:21:11.480deadlines there's some numbers there's some costs associated with it i mean whether people wants to
00:21:15.880go there and support premier kenny or or to vote against maybe if you could walk us through what
00:21:20.360the process is if they wanted to take part in that yeah so it's uh you have to be a member of
00:21:25.160the united conservative party before april 9th and what sorry before march 19th and that's because
00:21:32.120there's a 21 day cool off period before an event just so like people can't find out what the
00:21:37.080numbers are and dump a whole bunch of more people in so you can help plan the event things like that
00:21:41.800you also have to spend 99 on what's called an sgm ticket special general meeting ticket
00:21:48.200and that ticket is um a part of the covering the costs of the event we think there's going
00:21:54.040to be a lot more people than the party had planned for initially the party planned for
00:21:57.4802,800 people to attend. I believe this morning I heard that it might be over 9,000 although that's
00:22:02.920not fully confirmed but you're here to hear first that there are speculations that it could be over
00:22:08.5209,000 already. That will make for quite some logistical challenges. I mean a lot of people
00:22:15.720want to take part in this. This is what was contentious and a lot of people were upset
00:22:18.760about with the push for leadership review. A lot wanted to give members the ability to vote from
00:22:23.240home or you know remote vote or mail-in vote or something because getting people physically to a
00:22:28.760location for that many on a vote is i mean the lineups and everything uh even if it's half of
00:22:34.300that speculation are going to be quite something at that center yeah so i think well we know for
00:22:39.840a fact that 4 900 people have uh signed up that was in don bray's article yesterday i believe but
00:22:45.940um i believe it's a lot more than that uh there seems to be a some technical issues around
00:22:52.120registrations right now their site seems to be going down quite frequently so they're not actually
00:22:57.160able to get the exact number but i believe that we'll see somewhere between 12 and 15 000 people
00:23:02.360attend as for the logistics my organization is providing parking and we are planning staging
00:23:08.840areas for members of our organization which will have shuttle buses so you don't have to worry
00:23:13.640about parking um if you'd like to get involved with that or help us in any way you can sign up
00:23:19.720at www.tba2022.ca and you will receive a phone call within 24 to 48 hours asking how you'd like
00:23:28.760to be involved um so encouraging people to get involved on that because we are going to need a
00:23:34.920lot of help for the logistics of this yeah and and uh you know i've got a commenter tammy lucas
00:23:40.200saying you know i can't afford that sadly i'd be all over it and and that's part of okay it's about
00:23:45.240there's a balance a live event costs a lot of money you've got to have a fee if you're going
00:23:49.080recover it it is a political party uh but i mean it cuts both ways too i mean again there's some
00:23:55.400people who might support premier kenny but they are they don't have the means and the ability to
00:23:59.160get out and do that the other part is though just to remind everybody who might want to take part
00:24:02.600that price goes up if you wait too long right like that's the early bird rate yeah so march 19th it
00:24:08.840so you can register up until the day of the event up until 11 o'clock on the day of but if you
00:24:15.560you register after march 19th which you must be a member for i got to reiterate that you have to
00:24:20.200be a member before march 19th after march 19th you can still register but it's 149 and at the
00:24:27.280door it's 249 so i recommend people register before the 19th just to save themselves a little
00:24:32.980money now in terms of cost in terms of cost and there's people who you know genuinely suffered
00:24:40.600through government mandates and things like that no longer have jobs no longer have the same kind
00:24:47.400of means that perhaps they did before we are more than happy to help with busing getting you gas
00:24:53.800cards for your trip and we can't buy the the sgm ticket for you that's against the rules but we have
00:25:00.120it under a legal advisement that we can afterwards give you a gift of a grocery card or a gas card
00:25:07.240right um and so whether whoever you vote for we want this to be a democratic process if you really
00:25:14.180would like your uh sgm tickets covered and you have no and you have to have a means for it right
00:25:21.920i tell all the crowds when i go to our meetings i say if you can't afford a hundred dollars for
00:25:26.720your freedom but you can go and drink three times a week at the bar then you have bad priorities
00:25:31.780however if you really are struggling financially we're more than happy to help you
00:25:35.900yeah with transportation and things such exactly and i mean it's a fair enough rule we don't want
00:25:42.260a larger group to be able to just you know pay the full freight for somebody they have to be
00:25:45.480committed to to get in and exactly i think it's important yeah to have some skin in the game right
00:25:50.080the truckers had a lot of skin in the game when they went to ottawa it cost them a lot they risked
00:25:54.920a lot i was talking to one uh that's a friend of mine last night even and he told me that they've
00:26:00.540taken away his license to drive a truck so now he's losing a lot of money right um i might put
00:26:05.200them in touch with you and maybe you can have them on to talk about that but absolutely i think i
00:26:09.900think they had a lot of skin in the game and and we should put some skin in the game too because
00:26:13.580this is about sending a message to our government about how we feel about what's happened so getting
00:26:19.560to a more local level and this is something you've commented on recently and it's another part of the
00:26:24.440democratic exercise this isn't new with the the ucp or any party but it's getting pretty bad and
00:26:29.360pretty ugly is the nomination process this is where people get to if they're members they can
00:26:33.400take out a membership and choose their local representative and there have been some challenges
00:26:37.080against incumbents and now uh two out of two of those have been disqualified for uh yeah i agree
00:26:43.240i i think some very shaky grounds on past social media uh postings well i just sorry one sec uh
00:26:49.960yep i think it's very odd because jody gateman was on the board of the united conservative party and
00:26:55.720jason kenney asked her to be on the board of the united conservative party so to disqualify her
00:27:01.480for posts she made before he asked her to be on the board means a couple of things one would
00:27:07.720probably be that uh he didn't do his due diligence before if this is what he truly believes now
00:27:14.600or maybe it just means that he's now disqualifying people on trumped up charges because he doesn't
00:27:20.200want to have to deal with people who don't agree with his leadership and actually i'm going to be
00:27:23.800honest i find it pretty sad that jason kenny is calling the people that helped get him elected
00:27:29.240racist to hold on to power. It's just, it's really pathetic, really. And I hope that people see0.98
00:27:36.320through just the blatant lies that a desperate man is making. Yeah, well, and the character
00:27:43.580assassination of Ms. Gateman on this, I mean, I've known her for a long time as well. We served on
00:27:47.600the provincial executive together with the Wildrose Party. And I'm sorry, I saw no indications of
00:27:53.560crazed racism or anything like that. I mean, I understand a degree of vetting that that makes
00:27:58.060sense but come on it's very flimsy and not only that but to uh disqualify and then shoot at her
00:28:04.780after the disqualification uh i don't think he's doing himself any favors here i mean these are
00:28:10.060established grassroots uh operators with wide networks of people and uh you're upsetting them
00:28:16.140further when you take this sort of tact i don't know i'm some of a democratic purist to a degree
00:28:20.940that these nominations and it's always been a challenge i mean unless there's something
00:28:24.540outstandingly odious with a candidate which is fair enough this is the process of vetting let
00:28:29.980them get in on the race and that's the time you know if they're in and running and you say hey
00:28:33.420this person's got a really questionable history and i trust the members to say oh yeah you know
00:28:37.660what i don't want that person representing yeah exactly isn't that exactly isn't that democracy
00:28:42.540right where we say to people hey here's the truth about these people when you run for office
00:28:47.420fundamentally what you're doing is you're putting your past on display and saying you know what
00:28:51.900maybe i made mistakes here's how i've tried to fix them that's what it should be right or you know
00:28:59.120that they're hiding mistakes they made those things need to be revealed you know shine light
00:29:04.360on these things i think if anyone looked into jason nixon's past it would be quite astounding
00:29:09.720astonishing that he's having a candidate with an upstanding moral character like i would just i
00:29:17.040i put my i'll put my reputation on the line here hopefully better than i did last time i was on
00:29:22.640your show but i will say there are very few people i believe have more of an upright character than
00:29:28.720tim hoven my mom has known his family for years um i didn't know him until he decided to run i've
00:29:34.640only seen him from you know the news articles and talked to him but the community support that he
00:29:39.280has i'm sure you heard of the over 200 letters that were sent to derek uh testifying to his
00:29:44.800character after the slanderous emails were sent by the lmc uh which is the local nomination committee
00:29:52.400so it's just it's become a bit of absurd to be honest right like this is a genuinely good man
00:29:57.440and now they're trying to slander him as a white supremacist it's just it's sad yeah we're seeing
00:30:03.360a lot of ugly political playing and then uh i i guess part of it though was he did let a nomination
00:30:08.720go up in uh fort mcmurray and uh his preferred candidate got got the the the floor wiped with
00:30:14.640him uh by by brian gene so now i mean jason kenny's in a very difficult position he's got a
00:30:20.560person who very probably is going to be elected to be in part of his caucus this tuesday who is
00:30:26.800running essentially against his own leader yeah i i think i understand uh the reaction of someone
00:30:34.560who's cornered right these are the act not the actions of a rational man they're the act they're
00:30:39.200not this is strategically silly right even if he was you know a maniacal genius or a great organizer
00:30:47.520you don't create enemies right before a vote for your future right and yet somehow and i don't
00:30:54.960really understand it he's decided to slander a good man who who's riding is less than an hour away
00:31:02.080from the vote that will determine his future it's you know sometimes when people are cornered they
00:31:08.720start to act irrationally and that seems to be what's going on here i think of course this is
00:31:12.960an almost impossible situation for him right if he lets uh jason nixon get taken out by a challenger
00:31:19.920that's pretty humiliating i mean jason nixon is his as jason nixon was going around the
00:31:24.240legislators saying his prize pony right his uh his favorite son so in fact i know that jason kenny
00:31:32.400and jason nixon have been going around telling everyone that he would be the premier after jason
00:31:35.760kenny was gone right so to lose a nomination for the guy that you've been going around telling
00:31:41.920everyone is amazing well i think that's a dangerous spot to be so i think that's why maybe they made
00:31:47.520the calculation i just think it's very foolish so a valid question i've heard from a number of
00:31:52.800people and i saw commander say though i mean is who would lead uh you know i mean again that would
00:31:58.100come out down to a race but there's no real well aside from brian gene who really is putting his
00:32:02.220name forward not a lot of clear contenders to replace uh jason kenny if he were moved aside
00:32:07.100i mean the timeline starts getting really tight we're a year away from a general election
00:32:10.500and uh you know that's something people really have to think about too if frustrated with with
00:32:15.260premier kenny or not are you going to replace him with somebody winnable if you pull him out at this
00:32:19.980point well i think the that's actually an irrelevant question i get asked it a lot and
00:32:25.740this is my answer to it always is if jason kenny remains the leader of the united conservative
00:32:30.460party rachel notley will be the next premier of alberta so the only way we have a chance of that
00:32:37.580not happening is if we get someone new and here's the thing about politics that you know as well as
00:32:42.380i do people really want to be premier and whoever wins this leadership race will immediately be
00:32:47.980premier so i think there's going to be a lot of people that will come out of the woodwork i believe
00:32:51.980it's been reported on the western standard that danielle smith would run if the job was open
00:32:56.380i know of at least eight others who approached me asking to help me to help them in their
00:33:00.860leaderships i've told them all the same thing that i'll say right now i will never support
00:33:05.180a politician again i'm only going to support the people so my job i see going forward is
00:33:10.620organizing the people, teaching them how to be civically engaged, and then having them hold
00:33:17.840politicians' feet to the fire, because that's really what democracy is about, and we seem to
00:33:21.740have lost that. I think that's, you know, ironically, Jason Kenney's strongest skill,
00:33:29.420I mean, he's always been a very skilled political operator. He's been born and raised almost into
00:33:34.300politics. He knows the game. He knows it federally and, you know, from the ground up with reform.
00:33:39.320but people are tired of the political play you know they want policy they want leadership
00:33:44.640I mean just because you know how to stack nominations and deal with these sorts of
00:33:49.780internal races it's great that you have that talent but in watching that operation that's
00:33:54.880what sours people on the entire process and the people managing it I mean really it's in Alberta
00:34:00.420we've always valued grassroots democracy and we've really seen it erode this last couple years
00:34:04.420yeah and i think a big part of that is actually and i say this to all of the rooms that i speak
00:34:10.180in every night i say this is the people's fault right it's our lack of engagement our lack of
00:34:16.220we haven't been paying attention to what our politicians have been doing we've mostly been
00:34:21.140comfortable rich and comfortable and i like to say canada canadians and albertans even more so
00:34:27.980to a degree because of how wealthy we are we didn't think we had to care about politics but
00:34:33.240politics never stopped caring about us. And now people like yourself and I, we were involved
00:34:38.280most of that time, but we both know most people weren't, right? And one of the most encouraging
00:34:44.840things I've seen through this whole process with Take Back Alberta is a number of mothers that are
00:34:49.500getting involved. They're very excited about realizing that they can be civically engaged
00:34:55.620and that it isn't an impossible task or this scary thing. And they're doing amazing. They're
00:35:00.540putting together more events than I've ever seen a political organizer that are professionals do
00:35:04.900right so I'm very excited about the future of civic engagement in this province and honestly
00:35:12.040the only way that corruption prop prospers is when there's not uh civically engaged population so
00:35:17.920we can stop this we can make things better and I think we will oh fair enough and the means are
00:35:23.780in our hands and that's something I always you know political wieners like us okay we always
00:35:27.760bought memberships. We didn't need our arms twisted. But I mean, if people wonder why the
00:35:31.380tail so often politically wags the dog, it's because when you've got one to 2% of the population
00:35:36.420are the only ones taking part in partisan politics in any party, they have a disproportionately
00:35:41.500strong influence upon where that party is going to go. So I mean, if you want to make sure your
00:35:47.860voice is a lot more heard than just when you go to the polls, join a party. Yeah, get involved.
00:35:53.420like i got involved at 14 cory and at 23 i got to work and i'm from a town just so everyone knows
00:35:59.420there's eight houses where i grew up like and there's not a gas station for 30 kilometers right
00:36:05.100and from 14 to 23 i got i was working for the prime minister at 23 years old because i got
00:36:10.620involved when i was 14. canadian politics is great for that you get to do some awesome things if you
00:36:16.620just show up so people just my request to people would be like get involved like our system isn't
00:36:22.620as broken as people think it's that we're just not involved in it well i appreciate your coming on to
00:36:29.420talk to us about what you guys are up to maybe i'll let you close out just with a final statement
00:36:33.340and where we can find information on your organization and uh you know getting involved
00:36:37.900if they choose to absolutely okay so i just thanks again corey for having me on sorry about that
00:36:43.900first time but i think we both enjoyed it and uh let's wait about something else down the road
00:36:48.220Of course. Yeah, so the organization is called Take Back Alberta. You can find it at www.tba2022.ca. In terms of what's happening right now in our province, there's a lot of fear and anger at what's happening.
00:43:58.500he got kind of smeared pretty badly with a CTV story and it looks like he won it in the courts
00:44:03.440he's very likely going to enter the race we'll see how that goes he's got some popularity Ontario
00:44:08.280but see how broad it is Scott Etchison is considering it he's a I believe an MLA from
00:44:15.380or MPP in Ontario Peter McKay people are tossing that around we don't know if he's going to run
00:44:20.480again or not but it's a name that people consider Michael Chong same thing a past candidate these
00:44:26.720guys are dipping their toes in the water they haven't ruled out a run for the leadership but
00:44:32.300they aren't necessarily in it either but they're names that we're going to watch and uh Jean Charest
00:44:37.220tonight is kicking off his leadership race at the Wildrose Brewery in Alberta here in Calgary
00:44:42.680and uh yeah they used to supply and they're not a sponsor of ours by the way but I love the name
00:44:46.720of the place and their beer is fantastic from back in the days when I could drink and uh when I did
00:44:50.980own a bar we sold a heck of a lot of their products so uh just uh I'll throw that out there
00:44:55.620they're a great local company uh and i think maybe it's careful on the part of charay i mean he's
00:44:59.960going to be at his weakest in the west so he's going in to kick off his race when um in the in
00:45:06.220the heart of the beast in a sense you know in the toughest realm that he can and then i suspect he's
00:45:10.640still going to focus most of his race in central canada and eastern canada where he'll be stronger0.78
00:45:14.360but you might as well come out and uh into the hostile area and uh take your lumps and see if
00:45:20.320you can't gain some support in the west as i said there's there's still some liberal-minded type
00:45:24.080Western people who would support his kind of run. Looking on the federal front, this has been some
00:45:31.000fun stuff I've had with Twitter and getting online and things in general. But we're watching,
00:45:36.220not even federal, international, I guess you could say, the whole conflict in Ukraine.
00:45:40.740Unfortunately, we've got the Team Turtle out there. What a weak, weak bunch of leaders we
00:45:48.440have in canada so we got christia freeland who again is exceedingly weak uh deputy prime minister1.00
00:45:54.640and finance minister and the rest of the bobblehead in the background she's a very strange
00:45:58.520person but i mean again this is the best trudeau can find to bring around himself and then melanie
00:46:02.860jolie she's at foreign affairs and justin trudeau they're all over there in europe and trudeau is1.00
00:46:07.680just of course being trudeau he's an idiot and he's embarrassing us and you know even at the0.99
00:46:12.700dutch pressing does this man never answer questions you know after a conference and we've1.00
00:46:16.180had British news outlets just completely mocking his appearance. And Terry Glavin, who's a National
00:46:21.960Post writer in Canada, he wrote a column, just to give a plug to another outlet, it's fine, you know,
00:46:27.160when they write good stuff, and he's good, calling it Operation Photo Opportunity. And it really is,
00:46:32.920get out there and look, it's obscene, you know, you've got a war zone, you've got soldiers,
00:46:38.100and you've got Trudeau dancing around, taking selfies with them, doing his usual grinning ear
00:46:44.020to ear. Hey, look at me, mom. I'm in a war zone. I'm an international player. No, you're an idiot.
00:46:49.860You know, I understand politics always are a part of things. I mean, even back to World War II and1.00
00:46:56.420the summits, all the leaders would all get together for one pose, but it wouldn't be the grinning,
00:47:02.040squatting, smiling selfies, guys. These were serious affairs. Look at that picture. I mean,
00:47:07.360look at this other one, staged with these guys marching in front of a monument, perfectly framed.
00:47:12.480How much time did they spend getting that picture perfect when they could have been actually talking about real international affairs?0.98
00:47:19.340And look at that imbecile grinning amongst all these soldiers, these guys who are putting themselves at very real risk and going into a conflict.1.00
00:47:26.720And this idiot's acting like it's a festival, except he isn't groping anybody that we've seen.1.00
00:49:25.240It was even before the emergency was declared.
00:49:27.000It was like the first day of the convoy protest.
00:49:29.080And again, it ticked a lot of people off. I mean, we have people, everybody knows somebody who was a veteran. We've got family members going farther back who fought and often died in wars or suffered a lot of, you know, mental injuries as well. And to have some hammerhead dancing around with a beer in her hand on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is very offensive and insulting.
00:52:33.000I would have thought they already would have had this.
00:52:34.860But for the first time, they're collecting data
00:52:38.100on the number of stolen and smuggled firearms
00:52:40.680used in gun crimes. Like we've had those numbers kind of anecdotally or through police services or
00:52:46.120you know kind of roughly compiled. I'd always assume though that police services would have
00:52:50.920some solid real figures on this. They don't. They never had them. So it might take a few years it
00:52:56.920says by the way to compile these figures from a police nationwide. Like part of it is I think
00:53:03.640they don't want those numbers out because then people will see wow it's not the guy with the
00:53:08.440duck hunting shotgun in his basement who's been committing robberies. The shootings and murders
00:53:14.260happening out there weren't committed by people with legal firearms. These were smuggled firearms
00:53:21.240or stolen firearms. And, you know, cracking down on legal firearm owners isn't going to do a single
00:53:28.060thing. It's kind of, it really always has been ridiculous logic. It's kind of like cracking0.68
00:53:32.540down on legal drivers because some other drivers drive drunk. Well, you might as well crack down
00:53:39.280on me. I haven't had a drink in a few years, but it's just as logical to come after me
00:53:42.980if there's a history of it. If the alcohol, I mean, they're trying to stop the whole thing
00:53:49.520and they want to take firearms away from law abiding firearm owners. That's why they don't
00:53:53.680want the data. They don't want people to really see that, wow, it's been misplaced. All these
00:53:57.800firearms that they've been recategorizing, that they've been working to take away from legal
00:54:02.420law-abiding Canadians is not justified. And it says it might take a few years for these changes
00:54:09.780to be fully implemented. StatsCan wrote in a report to the safety committee.
00:54:13.380And they also said the extent to which organized crime is involved in firearm-related
00:54:17.600violence is currently unclear too. We know organized crime is a huge part of that.
00:54:23.760Almost always when we see shootings on the streets and dangerous things like that,
00:54:29.160it's tied to gangs, almost always, and that's organized crime. So, I mean, they're not saying
00:54:35.800there isn't any organized crime element, but they're just saying the extent is unclear. Well,
00:54:40.060you know, reading enough newspapers and seeing things, you can get a pretty good clear idea that
00:54:44.300that's the bulk, again, of where things are. Look, the majority of firearm death, and they're not a
00:54:48.760high cause of death in Canada in general anyways, is unfortunately suicide. Nobody likes to think
00:54:54.700or talk about that. That's actually where the bulk of firearm deaths are in Canada, is people
00:54:59.360taking their own lives, which is unfortunate. And that's something worth studying. But again,
00:55:03.040that gets back to, let's get more into study, you know, our mental health supports, let's get into
00:55:08.000addiction supports, things like that. Going after legal firearm owners isn't going to do a darn
00:55:13.980thing to stop that. And taking away the firearms, unfortunately, as far as suicides go, it's not
00:55:19.380going to save the life. If some person has unfortunately decided that they want to end
00:55:23.840their life and they're very determined to do it, the lack of a firearm isn't going to stop them.
00:55:28.220I mean, humans are fragile creatures. So, you know, if we want to take ourselves off the
00:55:40.240planet, we can do it in a number of ways besides firearms. Just looking at something from somebody
00:55:46.620joining from elsewhere. Sorry, Nico, I can't quite get what you're getting. We've got some
00:55:50.760events coming. I know my guest has been delayed, unfortunately, at this point. The agency submits
00:55:56.760early homicide survey questionnaires to police departments. You know, so this is, again, I get
00:56:00.240a wonder about stats, Ken. They get a lot of money. And they've been submitting it since 2019.
00:56:04.400Questions included barrel length of weapons used in crimes or whether it was reported stolen.
00:56:10.380It says information collected to date was so incomplete it was unreliable, wrote staff.
00:56:14.920What are we paying you guys for? You're Statistics Canada. That's your job is to get that reliable sort of stuff. I think if you want a lot of paperwork and documentation, the court system and justice, there's a lot there. It might be poorly organized. Well, let's get on that and fix it up. We're in the age of data, the age where you should be able to Google and dig up all sorts of statistics and numbers from organizations, whether it's internal or external at any given time, in short order.
00:56:43.580yet our Statistics Canada, this heavily funded federal institution, can't seem to figure out
00:56:49.880how many people are using what kind of firearms at any given time. All right, let's bounce off
00:56:54.920that. We got Cheryl asking, who's paying for Kenny's new radio show? Yeah, you know, I haven't1.00
00:56:59.520talked about that yet, but yeah, it sounds like Premier Kenny is now going to be doing weekly
00:57:03.300appearances on QR 77 and 630 Ched with his own show, his own call-in show. I think it's good
00:57:10.180for a premier to get out. Ralph Klein used to do that now and then too, and take calls and answer
00:57:14.960questions. But of course, we know the motivation. I mean, Jason Kenney's been the leader for quite
00:57:19.360some time. And actually, I think John Voss with QR 77 said they pitched this to him like almost
00:57:24.900two years ago. But of course, it's just before he's on the brink of perhaps losing his leadership
00:57:29.640in a review that he suddenly feels it's time to get out and get on the radio once a week.
00:57:35.080I don't think taxpayers are going to pay for that at all. In reality, it's going to be a good draw.
00:57:40.840A lot of people are still going to tune in whether they like or dislike Kenny. I mean,
00:57:44.420hey, if a premier wanted to have a half hour a week or an hour a week on the standard on one
00:57:50.340of our broadcasts, we would probably give it to them as well and not at a cost or anything because
00:57:53.560it's going to draw a lot of viewers and we'll sell some advertising and we'll do well with it.
00:57:57.200So I don't think anybody is paying out of pocket for, you know, it's not a government thing or
00:58:01.580anything like that with Kenny's appearance on those radio stations, the radio stations will
00:58:05.980do quite well as it is with just being, you know, having such a high profile guest on on a regular
00:58:14.780basis like that. Yeah, I like that title, you know, shock jock. Yeah, I don't think he'll be any
00:58:19.480new Howard Stern. So we got Leslie watching from Perth. Is that Leslie and Lewis we're talking
00:58:26.220about? Or no? Okay, I'm sorry. I'm just getting confused with some of the messaging we're getting
00:58:30.120from our uh uh producer here but uh we we've got people watching or it's just a commenter coming
00:58:37.040from perth hours we're all the way into australia people watching the show okay see i'm a little
00:58:42.360slow looking forward in your studio a lot more communications we're gonna get a earbud where
00:58:46.420people can actually talk to my dance butt and regular realize what's going on so hey leslie
00:58:50.420thanks for tuning in from that far away what a fantastic time when we can um have these sorts
00:58:57.180of discussions around the world like this so let's see uh sandy's saying there's no way she's
00:59:03.080going to listen to him yeah okay that's fair enough uh uh maryland thinking it's going to
00:59:07.280be a bomb people ate him alive on his facebook postings yeah we'll see it depends on how well
00:59:11.240they screen those uh calls coming into him you know i mean when you call into a radio show you
00:59:16.040get a producer and and uh whether they let the critical callers through or not i don't know i
00:59:20.880don't know what their agreement will be uh but if it turns into a weekly roast for them it's not
00:59:26.020going to do him any favors. Again, he is the premier though, and things break. So I think
00:59:30.240he's going to get a fair viewership while he's at it. I'm still babbling away. I'm afraid Tariq is
00:59:36.720just delayed for whatever reason, unfortunately. Hopefully he's here soon. We can talk about some
00:59:41.640more news items. There's always more stuff to talk about. We've got Marina coming in from
00:59:45.260London, Ontario. And yes, it looks like Tariq is just about outside the door. So we're finally
00:59:51.700going to get him. And you don't have to listen to me rambling at length about the news items.
00:59:55.040So I mean, it's hard for the fun anyway.
01:01:47.500and uh uh an interesting person i mean you you do uh team roping and uh many other things uh
01:01:55.420i appreciate that thank you thanks for having me yeah but now we're hearing it you're considering
01:01:59.740at least running for the maverick party leadership can you expand on that absolutely i am so again i
01:02:03.980believe in the maverick message through and through i really think the west needs its own voice the
01:02:08.940west needs its own autonomy um again we're seeing it time and time again uh and um i was in ottawa
01:02:16.300for two period two weeks of the the trucker protest um and it reinvigorated why a 22 acre plot
01:02:25.420in ottawa makes all the decisions for us here in the west and i said no more we need to get out of
01:02:31.020ottawa so i came back and i i talked to uh the leadership at the maverick party and i said i'm
01:02:36.460interested so yeah we've i'm exploring it and we've kicked off essentially an interest campaign so
01:02:41.500whether that there's two big things to overcome here one is fundraising and then the other is
01:02:45.740is membership sales and if both go well i'm i'm in great yeah because it it's i think the maverick
01:02:51.080party right now is as an entity is more important than ever and some people have seen that like one
01:02:54.620of the things i think was most indicative was the vote in parliament uh on whether or not quebec
01:03:00.940should lose a seat based on population change you know this should have been a no-brainer quebec
01:03:04.720didn't grow as fast as the rest of the country you just adjust it as it goes and off we go but
01:03:08.720No, the Bloc got all wound up about it. They demanded that Quebec seats be protected. And okay, fine, we expect the Liberals to get in there and vote for that. But almost 50 of the Conservatives even got up and voted for this ridiculous thing. Now, how on earth can we get that, including a few Western ones?
01:03:26.220Correct. Actually, more than a few, 10. 10 Western MPs voted for it. Pierre Polyev abstained from voting, which is very telling, again, because, again, if they are going to want to win Eastern Canada, they're going to start to need to appease Quebec and Ontario. We're back in the same story again.
01:03:43.160And I could see why the bloc fights for Quebec. That makes perfect sense. They have one job, and that is the benefit of Quebec. Where is our Western MPs fighting exclusively for the benefit of the West? So it just goes and goes again. It reinforces the message that the West needs its own autonomous voice that speaks exclusively for itself and nobody else. I mean, there were MPs in Alberta that voted for that motion.
01:04:10.980yeah and i mean you know politically see i understand where they're coming from because
01:04:15.740it's that's what i kind of try to tell people in the regionalist don't take it personally it's math0.99
01:04:19.800right you can't win this country without that centered chunk and if you infuriate the quebecers0.80
01:04:25.520you're not going to form government but that means then that our interests are going to be1.00
01:04:29.760secondary if it comes to a touch so that's where having a western party you're bang on if anything
01:04:34.660you can win the country without the western voice like that's it goes the other way around as long
01:04:39.940as you look after the 230 seats east of manitoba you can win the country so you don't need the
01:04:46.180west at all and we saw it three times in a row now when manitoba regardless of who you vote for
01:04:50.940when manitoba starts to count their votes it is already called the prime minister's office the
01:04:55.280only thing we have an impact on statistically is whether that's a majority or minority government
01:04:59.960that's all we can impact so you're absolutely right having that exclusively western votes
01:05:05.020that exclusively caters to us because i really think that fundamentally as a country we're too
01:05:09.700very different values. What the Central and Eastern Canadian voter wants is very different
01:05:14.340than what the Western Canadian voter wants. Well, it only makes sense. Look at the size of the
01:05:17.540country. It's one of the biggest nations on earth. And to have a centralized government is just
01:05:21.000ridiculous. I mean, Newfoundland, hey, anybody who's known some newbies, brilliant, fantastic
01:05:25.700people, but vastly different in many ways, culturally and in thought from somebody from
01:05:30.800BC or somebody in Alberta. Absolutely. I mean, we look at even the voting results. So Alberta
01:05:35.840has contributed quite a bit in retail into Newfoundland's economy when we recruited quite
01:05:42.740a lot of people from Newfoundland to work within our oil fields. Now, what happened was we've seen
01:05:48.420it three times in a row, Newfoundland vote almost exclusively red. And to me, that's a vote against
01:05:53.600Alberta, because that's a vote that supports a government that shuts down Alberta's industries,
01:05:57.820brings in a carbon tax, etc. So who's really standing up for Western Canada if even our own
01:06:03.400elected MPs here in the West aren't voting for it. And the interim leader of the Conservative
01:06:09.320Party, Candace Bergen, again from the Prairies, from a Manitoba writing, she voted, she's
01:06:13.740on the record, she's voted for the Quebec motion with the bloc.
01:06:17.640So getting beyond that, then, I mean, leadership, building a new party is a lot of work. It's
01:06:21.960tough. I've been very involved in a lot. The Maverick's still kind of in its infancy.
01:06:27.020Jay has done what he can as an interim leader. We've had him on a number of times. I really
01:06:30.740value is he was a reformer he knows how it works with a western party and being in there uh a
01:06:36.600leadership race is an exercise that's really important i mean it's got to be competitive and
01:06:40.520i mean i spoke to uh the other calling yeah craig is a great guy and i talked to him he was on the
01:06:46.600show the other week but i mean i'd hate to see an acclimation nothing against him but you've got to
01:06:51.080have a run you've got to make a race of it so it's kind of thrilled to see you know you're
01:06:55.140considering it i'm not taking a sign on which candidate or another i just want to see a race
01:06:58.420Absolutely. And Colin and I have talked, I have an immense amount of respect for Colin. I really, really like him. And if he wins, I think he would make an exceptional leader for the Maverick Party. But him and I have talked, and we both think that it's healthy, that it's a race. And that's why I'm looking at it right now, as long as I could get through these two, I wouldn't even call them hurdles, but I would call them really stages of entering the leadership race, which is fundraising and membership sales, then we're in.
01:07:26.620And I would absolutely love to see a clean race that happens.
01:07:31.460And then one or the other, like Colin, I've talked about this.
01:07:35.060If he wins, I would love to stand in his caucus and vice versa.
01:07:37.680I would love to have him in my caucus if I win.
01:07:40.400Yeah, so you're staying friendly, of course, and that's great.
01:07:42.680I mean, because leadership races, yeah, they can be great for a party.
01:07:45.060They can also rip it to shreds if it gets too personal.
01:07:48.260But again, you have to differentiate yourself then from the other candidate.
01:07:51.180So assuming that you were in the race, why should people vote for you as opposed to Colin?
01:07:55.400so i've put out a 10-point leadership platform that says this is what i'm going to do for the
01:08:00.920west and the objective one is very clear this full autonomy for western canada and and that starts
01:08:06.680by completely taking power out of ottawa and back into the provinces so working i don't want any
01:08:13.400cop-outs on oh that's a provincial jurisdiction that's a federal jurisdiction that's i want to
01:08:18.040be able to work with the provinces to say how can we put more power especially within alberta and
01:08:23.560and Saskatchewan. The other thing I've proposed is let's be the first federal party that has
01:08:27.260mandatory term limits on not just our MPs, but also on the leader so that there's never a
01:08:32.480stagnation. That's one thing I'm proposing. Three, I'm proposing that we are the first federal party
01:08:38.160that puts the opinion of our constituents, our voter, and our member right in the palm of their
01:08:43.600hands. There is no mechanism today outside of super old school writing a letter to your MP
01:08:48.880or your senator or an email let's have let's have a maverick party app where you could vote
01:08:55.260live on certain bills like the emergency managers act you could send a message directly to your mp
01:09:00.400saying okay this is what i think or this is what i vote on it then and then the other thing as well
01:09:05.680is uh as a party what i'm proposing is that we procure all of our services contractors um our
01:09:11.340businesses merchandise etc exclusively from western businesses um so there's i have it out
01:09:18.360on on all my social media feeds those are some of the highlights um out of it but there's 10
01:09:23.880major things that i'm proposing that if i'm leader of the maverick party these are the things that i
01:09:28.760commit to in that platform we obviously drop the carbon tax colin i both agree on that support
01:09:34.360western heavy industry sets agriculture oil and gas manufacturing all of our heavy industries
01:09:40.600is really stand up for them and we're seeing the effects of not standing up for them
01:09:44.520as the government for the last 10 years both sides of the aisle because again we've been soft
01:09:49.800on that messaging because we want to appease quebec and ontario i'm done i owe quebec and
01:09:54.840ontario nothing and it's all about western canada and western canada first uh so all of these things
01:10:01.000are out on on all of my social media feeds facebook twitter etc um and again i love engaging with our
01:10:06.760constituents so if you've got a question certainly ask me online and i'd love to be uh to be able to
01:10:11.080that's right. So getting beyond that, the Western First Focus, something that's always been
01:10:18.680interesting with reform before, you presumably, if you've got some members in there, they still
01:10:23.480would be federal representatives in parliament. There's going to be questions that are national
01:10:28.520in scope. Where would you and other Maverick members land? I mean, I know it's issue by issue
01:10:33.460and so on, but I guess the general ideology is still important. I mean, you would vote on bills
01:10:37.940that impact the entire country exactly so I look at again the block as as an
01:10:44.360example so they've got 31 seats today they look at everything from a Quebec
01:10:48.760line is it good for Quebec or is it not if there are then things that go beyond
01:10:54.080so go national and don't have a detrimental impact on on Western Canada
01:10:59.540Do you need a minute? If you do, you might as well.
01:11:46.900And I said, well, what about all our Western MPs that are standing up?
01:11:50.840The other thing as well is I look at the leadership race right now of the Conservative
01:11:54.820Party and every person that's officially thrown their name in the ring, so whether it's Jean
01:11:59.120Charest or Pierre or Leslie Lewis, and individually, they're good candidates. And quite frankly,
01:12:04.880the most ideal scenario for the country is to see a CPC Prime Minister, to see someone from0.55
01:12:10.920the Conservatives become Prime Minister, backed by a block of mavericks that says, do not forget
01:12:16.860about the West. This is what the West wants. You want our support, you have a Western agenda,
01:12:21.720Because clearly the CPC Western MPs have not stood up for the West.
01:12:25.360We've seen it over the last six years.
01:12:27.400They have not voted for exclusively Western issues.
01:12:30.740So we'd like to see a CPC prime minister backed by a block of mavericks, at least that's step one, up until we start to achieve legislative autonomy for Western Canada.
01:12:41.760Yeah, well, and we can have effective governments, even if there was a, well, we shut out the thought, a longer liberal government that's there.
01:12:48.160I think the Reform Party was very effective as an opposition in bringing Western issues to the fore that the progressive conservatives never would have done.
01:12:55.940As long as the conservatives run or any federal party runs candidates in Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada, the West will never have its unbiased voice because you need those 230 seats.
01:13:11.760It's proven over the last Alberta and Saskatchewan, I mean, specifically Saskatchewan, could not get any more vote.
01:13:16.880Every single riding in Saskatchewan went blue. Almost all but four ridings in Alberta went blue the last time. And we still saw a Trudeau government. So no matter how blue we get, you really essentially the GTA area has more seats than Alberta and Saskatchewan put together. So if you don't cater to the GTA, you don't win the country.
01:13:36.060Well, the GTA's voter values are very different than Western voter values.
01:13:41.680So I think that there's, and again, the reform ran in their first year, if I remember correctly, they got no seats.
01:13:47.340And then the next year, they got 50 seats.
01:13:50.140So, I mean, again, this is a new party, but I think we've got a lot of runway.
01:13:55.680Right. Western autonomy sentiment is incredibly strong, especially after seeing the crushing of the protest and the complete labeling of a fringe minority.
01:14:07.200Well, that protest started from Western Canada, Corey. And again, we are independence minded.
01:14:11.840We are freedom minded as Westerners. And we want just the government to get out of the way.
01:14:17.280One of the things that I put out in my leadership platform is we're not a conservative party and we're not a liberal party.
01:14:22.000we're in essence libertarian uh where it's strong fiscal policy but in terms of things that are the
01:14:29.360i believe the government doesn't belong in your house in your bedroom in your place of worship
01:14:33.520or in your business take that take so we're not and i love our logo that way is we're not left
01:14:38.880we're not right we're west and that's and that's what comes first i like that and things it's a
01:14:43.360good point that they change fast i see some great irony i mean you're probably too young to know
01:14:47.520about it but way back when the mulrooney government they had the west locked back in the 80s this was
01:14:52.640it it was conservatives they they've got it all right and the reform was starting to bubble up
01:14:56.320because i mean that the big turning point there were a number of them it was a slow death but was
01:14:59.840the cf-18 contract quebec or winnipeg had a a bid that was just far superior on every level cost
01:15:06.800ability the whole works but quebec spoke up and said no you've got to bring it here and mulrooney
01:15:12.240capitulated basically screwed manitoba and gave it to quebec and the west just lost it because i
01:15:16.960I mean, we expected the liberals, but now when the conservatives are doing it, and that led to, though, I mean, as the reform rose, a total annihilation of the CPC, where they had two seats left.
01:15:26.340I mean, that next election was two seats, and it was just Joshua Ray, of all people, and Elsie Wayne.
01:15:32.020So I think, you know, will Sharae have learned from the regional whipping that they got back then?
01:15:40.880And that's the interesting thing. I'm even keen to see how the leadership race is going to shape out for the Conservatives, because, again, the overwhelming choice during the McKay, O'Toole, Lewis, Sloan race, and this was, I think, 15 or 16, was for Alberta and Saskatchewan, head and shoulders above everyone else, Dr. Lewis was the number one pick, and she swept Saskatchewan.
01:16:04.360But what put Erin O'Toole on top was Quebec. So the Quebec Conservative constituent vote put Erin O'Toole on top. So the thing is, even when it comes to choosing the leader of the Conservative Party, it isn't Alberta and Saskatchewan that determines it. It is predominantly the Eastern voter. So again, I mean, even when, and I would say the Conservative base is here, it's in Western Canada, and then still we don't have that level of control.
01:16:31.980Yeah, so getting to that, I mean, one of the issues with the Conservative Party race,
01:16:35.980part of where a Western leader doesn't come in, I believe when Harper got elected, it was one
01:16:38.660member one vote. It was still the remnants of the old grassroots. Now they've changed it.
01:16:42.620It's weighted per constituency across the country. I'm kind of mixed on those sorts of things. I mean,
01:16:48.100if you were, say, just looking in the West, and if somebody sold 20,000 memberships in Calgary,
01:16:53.460but not anywhere else, and wiped out every other candidate, well, that still kind of leaves
01:16:57.580bc hang-in and a lot of good supporters on the rural areas but at the same time it's as democratic
01:17:03.340as it gets with one member one right so uh exactly i i and that's what the maverick party leadership
01:17:09.100races one member one vote uh irrespective of your constituency whereas again the conservatives
01:17:14.300weighted by so if you have a constituency in quebec that sold 37 memberships they're still
01:17:19.340considered um a weight they still get that same equal weight as let's say a very dense membership
01:17:25.340in in a western riding so it is um it's still and again that's that's how erin o'toole won it is
01:17:32.540is his quebec commitments so i'm interested to see how this shapes up uh and who's really going
01:17:39.500to put out a true western platform but i'd like to see at at some point a partnership a non-formal
01:17:47.820partnership where it's not but the best way i said it and i've said it over and over again
01:17:52.700if in the election if erin o'toole had won and a group of mavericks had won we would make
01:17:58.380him prime minister we would be his minority government backers um based on a list of
01:18:03.420conditions that that the west wants um we're we're not seeing we're again i've yet to see
01:18:09.420one candidate then from the cpc race say that they're running in a western riding there isn't
01:18:14.380um you know there isn't a single one every single one of them is running ontario east
01:18:19.100they're all eastern this time so as your campaign develops have you got some uh events planned
01:18:23.500they're coming up here in the near future so uh considering the the timelines and so on the vast
01:18:27.900majority of my campaign and i truly believe that the vast majority of our campaigning is going to
01:18:32.380be electronic so whether that's social social engagements content etc i think again the future
01:18:37.500of politics in canada is in in the palm of your hands that being said we are planning out some
01:18:42.460town halls we do have a writing association town hall this saturday and our agm too um and so that's
01:18:49.660for the the writing i ran in which is bamfairdry so we we are planning events um and at the same
01:18:55.980time i am either remotely or or in person running with uh all of our constituency associations or
01:19:02.860writing associations rather uh across western canada where i'm making visits to their their
01:19:07.260events okay so what's the timelines uh you know as we start to wrap up i mean there's always going
01:19:11.820going to be a membership cut off correct things like that so the biggest cut off the biggest
01:19:16.300hurdle i've got right now from a fundraising and uh membership standpoint is march 25th so that's
01:19:22.620the first uh and then at the end of april is when all our members that have bought a membership can
01:19:27.420vote and then the second week of may is when our leadership vote does actually happen um so again
01:19:34.540but to be able to get into the race march 25th i need to show a interest in membership sales
01:19:39.820and interest in fundraising so i'm working with my team right now um to get that to get that done
01:19:44.540i'm posting updates really live on social media as we go along in terms of where we stand today
01:19:50.060and will i be able to enter i really want to um and we're working incredibly hard considering the
01:19:55.500deadlines coming up here in 15 days uh to be able to enter but but i'm gonna give it i'm gonna foot
01:20:01.500on the pedal full full throttle great well uh as we wrap up then for people who want to support you
01:24:44.260I think there's a little more transparency on those federal ones than with what they've done with the Calgary Economic Development.
01:24:48.700We see government has all sorts of ways to hide how they're managing things and what they're doing with your money.
01:24:53.740And these jackasses with the CMHC not only are working on ways to steal your home equity, but they're giving huge bonuses to their staff for doing it.
01:25:05.120And so let's see, all the, okay, 121 of their 2146 staff have bonuses.0.93