LIVEļ¼ Triggered - Politically motivated race-baiting must stop!
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Summary
Travis Smith, a political science professor at Concordia University in Montreal, Canada joins the show to talk about the protests in Canada. James Finkbeiner is on the ground in the Alberta border area providing updates on the situation. We also discuss the new conservative leadership race in the Conservative Party of Canada.
Transcript
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Good morning. It's February 3rd, 2022. Day after Groundhog Day. Still cold out. Welcome
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to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. This is the Western Standards live show. It comes to you
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every day at 11.30 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday to Friday, except holidays,
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unless something's breaking, and then we'll still carry on with the show. It's that important to us.
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comments are welcome again one of the great things about being live we've got a comment stream we've
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got people listening on youtube and rumble and facebook uh get in there get in on the discussion
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i won't necessarily read out every comment or question but i might get them to our guests and
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you know have some discussions with each other that's part of the fun of interacting on something
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live try to keep it civil though uh you know we've had some trolling and things going on just ignore
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the trolls if they're commenting and uh pick out the civilized people and and we can have some good
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discourse here. I got a great lineup again today. My first guest is going to be Travis Smith. He's
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an associate professor of political science at Concordia University. He spent a night visiting
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a truck stop when people were staging and getting ready to go to the convoy in Ottawa. And he
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interacted with the people there and had some thoughts he put into a column that he shared
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with the Western Standard. And it's just good to get some dialogue with people who actually been
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there. You know, we're getting so much bad news these days. Let's talk to people who were there
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on the ground and find out what's been happening. Along that same line, those who are familiar with
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the show have seen that James Finkbeiner has been down at the protests in the Coutts, Alberta area
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by the American border for quite some time now. He's been reporting to us live and giving us
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updates from there. And it's still ongoing. It sounds like they're making some progress and
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agreements and some traffic is moving, but there's still some hangups and tensions and different
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blockades starting up in different spots. So we'll check in with James and from that location
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and see how things are going and what's happening. Then Kerry Diot is going to join me. He was a
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Canadian conservative activist. He was a member of parliament for the electoral district of
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Edmonton, Grispa. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly from 2015 to 2021. And we're going to
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talk about, yeah, this new conservative leadership race that has suddenly come up. Nancy saying we
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can't access your online site. Is it offline or censored? I should say. We are having some
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technical difficulties there. It's not censorship, but it's very frustrating. And I assure you that
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people are running as hard as they can to get that darn thing up and running again.
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And as soon as it is, Dave's going to let me know and we will get you back there. For the time being,
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we can talk about news here. So yeah, we'll get that from James. So before I get into what's got
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currencies. Okay. Well, what's got me going on today? What's got me triggered? I'm tired of
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race baiting. Racism in developed nations is at its lowest point in modern history. You wouldn't
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know it though. And if you're listening to the progressive woke set, if you believed everything
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from the hysteric left lately, you'd think we're living in a world of lynching and our political
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systems are dominated by a racial caste hierarchy. As politically motivated progressive politicians,
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activists, and media members continue to perpetuate the myth of widespread, unchecked racism,
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they're actually creating racial divides among citizens where there hadn't been any before.
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I'm not denying that work still needs to be done. Racism still exists. I mean, there are
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still odious individuals out there who feel their race is superior to others, and they even form
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small groups and they go out and try and promote their Sikh ideology. These people, though, are
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truly a minority of a minority, and they're chased away from pretty much any organization or gathering
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once their leanings are identified. I remember quite well in the early 90s, skinheads still
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openly walked the streets in modern nations. We used to see them in Calgary downtown all the time.
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They still represented a tiny minority even then, but they felt comfortable enough in their racism
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that they marched around and openly displayed it. When's the last time you've seen one of them?
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Klan members perhaps? Any signs of organized racism? Again it's out there
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but you don't see it as it's so tiny. It's gone. Organized racism has been
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driven into the sewers where it belongs. Your average person's immediately
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repulsed by acts of racism and they condemn it when they see it. Racism is
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now being used as a political tool by the left and has to stop. The statements
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from some media outlets all the way up to the Prime Minister with regards to
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the Truckers for Freedom Convoy have been divisive and frankly disgusting. You
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don't have to agree with the goals of the convoy or the protests itself at all in order to see that
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has absolutely nothing to do with racism. You can call out the anti-vaccination messaging, the
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blockage of streets, or even the use of horns as a tool for protest. But it's ludicrous to call
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this a racist movement. When people like the Prime Minister call everything they oppose racist,
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nothing is racist. Those few real acts of racism that happen out there are overwhelmed by reports
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of fake racism, such as those on the Truckers for Freedom convoy. I watched a horrific interview
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on CTV of a black woman in Ottawa who was claiming she'd been locked in her home for
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days, even before the protests got there. And she felt she had, would remain hidden throughout
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these protests as she felt racists in the convoy would hurt her if she went out. Now, whether this
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woman was truly agoraphobic and believed that racists were waiting outside her doors, or if
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she was just trying to feed that false narrative of widespread racism in the protests, it was a
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ridiculous interview. It fed fear and division, and it was an outright irresponsible piece.
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Those sorts of interviews are all too common in a world with a legacy media fixated on racism.
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People of all races are participating in the convoy. The long-haul trucking industry is a
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massive component of South Asian drivers. How insulting must it be for those guys who are at
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the protests, Sikhs, and such, to be called white nationalists by national leaders in the media?
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Any efforts to counter the false claims that the protests in Ottawa are race-based
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They jealously want to guard and foster their division.
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I watched a live video of a peace pipe ceremony being held within the Ottawa protests
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And I tweeted a picture, there it is right there, about this gathering of people.
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They were banging on drums, smoking a peace pipe.
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I think they were getting ready to set up a teepee out there.
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thousands of people shared and liked the peaceful show of solidarity and diversity when i tweeted
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it others though were enraged that i dared to tweet it liberal laurie mark burry tweeted liar
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at me in a quick response he later implied that the photo was from another period he went silent
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when i finally posted a link to the live video guys it wasn't faked it wasn't made up it was
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from something that happened on the hill why has this got you so outraged and senator patrick
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Brazow. For those who don't remember him, Justin Trudeau beat the piss out of him in a boxing match
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actually that was held by Sun News Network some years ago. But he jumps in and offers a correction
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with some sort of statement from local indigenous organizations that condemn the protests.
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Now, Brazow and the First Nations groups that he shared the statement from don't represent the
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views of every indigenous citizen any more than I do. Native individuals hold diverse views and
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express them just like everybody else. And implying that they hold some sort of hive mind,
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as Brazow did, is actually a form of racism in itself. My tweet was then swarmed by the typical
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liberal fart catchers, to no effect, I don't care. I mean, they attacked those things, but what was
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striking was how virulently and quickly they came out just because I put something out they didn't
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like. The narrative of the protests being racist is fake and it's easily disproven. The people
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perpetuating this myth know it's fake, and that's why they respond so hysterically when evidence to
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the contrary of their agenda is presented. The racial division and distrust being sowed by race
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baiters during this truckers convoy protest is unforgivable. People are being driven apart
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while racial lines are being drawn. This is what fosters real racism, and it's coming from the
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establishment left. We could actually be setting ourselves backwards when we've been doing so well.
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The world needs to heal when this pandemic ends, economically and socially. We should be looking
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for ways to constructively unite people rather than hatefully divide them. A good first step
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towards finding that unity, though, is to end the race baiting now. It starts with the Prime
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Minister, it goes on to the legacy media, and on with the rest of the activists. Call it out when
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you see it, guys. Don't let them get away with it. That's what's got me triggered today.
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Now, let's get on to some other news. There's, of course, all sorts of things to get me triggered
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there. We'll bring in our news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what we've got going on in the newsroom
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at the Western Standard office today. How's it going, Dave? It's going well, Corey. How are you?
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Well, good, good. I'm annoyed, but you know, that's standard.
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Yeah. You know what? And I've got an idea for you.
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Apparently, if you are a federal government worker, you have access to seminars to help you breathe better.
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Believe it or not, we've got a story on the site, whenever it comes back up,
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that Ottawa has spent $153,000 hiring people to give seminars to their stressed out workers
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Boy, my show would get pretty boring if I relaxed though, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, but I mean, it's again, just another sign of nobody cares about taxpayers' money
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in Ottawa and they'll throw it at ridiculous things.
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Another thing, obviously, we're keeping tabs on this morning is the trucker situation in Alberta.
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A deal was reached yesterday afternoon to open up the Coutts border crossing.
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They've got one lane going in each way, and commercial traffic is now moving between Canada and the United States.
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But, you know, they may not get very far because just up the road in Milk River, there is another blockade that started.
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These are truckers that tried to get down to Coutts in order to support their colleagues there, but they came across an RCMP roadblock, and the RCMP were not going to let them in, so negotiations failed late last night, early this morning, and our James Finkbeiner says about 150 trucks have now blockaded that highway near Milk River.
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So it seems to be one step forward, one step back in trying to get this thing solved.
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The GoFundMe, Corey, you'll remember, passed $10 million yesterday.
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You remember when the convoy first started, there were those nasty false reports by the mainstream media that it had been closed, which were untrue.
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And the GoFundMe wants to just make sure that everything's done right and all their I's are dotted and their T's are crossed.
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So they're working with organizers on that now.
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I know $1 million of it had already been released.
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And this is to help pay for food and lodging and gasoline and everything that truckers need.
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Truckers are against vaccine mandates, obviously.
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and we've got an interesting story on uh ucp talking points uh the western standard has a
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source that has provided us with what what uh ucp mlas are being told to tell their angry
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constituents and basically what it is is it's just a plea for time uh stalling for time and
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basically saying we're working to get the pandemic restrictions uh released so uh still no time frame
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in alberta the premier seems to be shortening it you know he initially said march and then the end
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of february and now there's even talk of it coming out sooner than that uh so that's what we've got
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on the site that nobody can see at the moment uh but corey i've got to tell you about this breaking
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story in bowden that mel risden our top reporter is working on a whole bunch of kids a dozen of
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them or so decided they weren't going to wear masks today so the teachers locked them in a boot
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closet believe it or not and they are having to spend the day locked in this boot closet and uh
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mel with brilliant reporting has been able to talk to one of the uh one of the 30 apparently
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kids that have been locked in the boot camp or in the boot uh the boot room so that's going to be
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an explosive story that Mel is putting together right now and
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we'll be keeping an eye on that situation because 30 kids
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locked in a room, somebody's got to put a stop to that and I know lawyers
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are already involved. So that's what's on the go at the moment, Corey.
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Well, another day full of all kinds of news to look forward to. Hopefully that
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sights up soon and there'll be a lot of great reading just waiting for you guys there
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as soon as it gets rolling. And yeah, that's ridiculous. I mean, we've been hearing things, the teachers have
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at least we can't say with all of them, but the unions and some of it, some of the worst in this.
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I mean, we've seen video of kids with masks being taped to their faces and things like that.
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I mean, now locking them in boot rooms over wearing masks over a virus that doesn't hurt kids.
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And it doesn't seem to be, at least very rarely hurts kids.
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I shouldn't, you know, overstate, but we're just, this panic is maintained.
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Even it seems the lighter this pandemic gets, the stronger some of the restrictions and insanity gets.
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I'll tell you, Corey, if I was a parent of one of those 30 kids locked in that room,
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I'd be making my way to the school right now, ready to kick down some doors.
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And I suspect that more than a few are right now.
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Well, we'll be watching to keep up to date with that.
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And everybody, yes, as soon as that site, that stubborn site is up and running,
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So thanks for checking in, Dave, and we will talk to you later.
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I'm not a web expert, but I mean, our site's been getting record traffic. It's just been
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beating the heck out of it. I don't know if that has anything to do with why it's having
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the difficulties it is today. But we are getting that rectified because of course it's it's we've
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got to get that news out here. You know, and getting back to that story that hasn't been
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getting nearly enough press lately, it's getting out there is getting out to a degree with the
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mainstream, but this should be explosive. We're not hearing a lot. And that's that Johns Hopkins
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university study using metadata from, I believe it was 23 other studies, checking out the cost
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benefits of lockdowns and restrictions. I mean, we've got the evidence, we've got two years worth.
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And again, this isn't some small little group or institute or anything. It's Johns Hopkins
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University. These guys specialize in research. That's what they do. It's as credible as it gets.
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And they determined that all the lockdowns restrictions have led to a 0.2% reduction in
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in mortality with the pandemic. What a waste of time. And plus, they could list all sorts,
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of course, the damages that these restrictions and lockdowns have done. I mean, it's been massive.
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Why are we not raising this study on the flagpole and saying, holy cow? I mean, again,
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let's not fault the people who didn't know any better and locked us down before, but obviously
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it didn't work. Let's stop. Let's back off. People are entrenched. They won't back off.
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They found their position. They won't let go. And that's what's happening with protests. That's
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what I was talking about with those those crazy people pushing on the racism narrative we need
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compromise we need level heads those numbers are coming in guys the science is speaking let's change
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the policy to reflect it and as Dave was saying it sounds like the provincial government even
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though they're perhaps speeding their reopening faster than they anticipated due to outside
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pressures they're moving towards that with reasonable pressure put on government we can
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move them we can do that the convoy and we'll be checking in with James in a little while it sounds
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like they're letting some people through now, but it's been on and off, they're negotiating,
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but at least negotiations open, and that's important. And the government looks like it
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might be moving on some things, and that's important. I mean, just on a micro level,
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I mean, in here, you might notice, you see, Derek insists that I wear a necktie when I do these
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shows. I can't stand wearing neckties, drives me bananas. But, hey, he calls the shots around here.
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So I've been tying terrible knots now for weeks and weeks, and it drives Derek bananas.
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He actually comes in and manually fixes my tie at times just before shows. But, fine. You know
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what? Derek dug his heels in. We got to a point of compromise. As you can see, I've got a nice
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Windsor knot. I've always known how to tie them. I just felt if I ruined them long enough, Derek
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could back off. Instead though, I've compromised. We've gone. I'm wearing the correct apparel and
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the tie is on. We found a compromise though because however, I still refuse to wear underwear
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and I will not move on that point. But Derek's happy. I'm happy. We've got a better looking tie.
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We can have compromise and agreements happening all over the place. If Derek and I can come to
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middle ground there. The government and the protesters can. Okay, I'm going to speak quickly
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wrote a piece for us uh he went out to check out the convoy he went to a truck stop actually met
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with a number of people and uh i don't believe if i recall from the column he found a bunch of
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fire breathing extremists or crazy people or people bent on destruction of the nation but
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we'll talk to him and confirm that in a moment so uh hey there travis how are you doing good to see
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you uh cory how are you doing excellent yeah no thanks very self-conscious i didn't get the memo
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about the dress code oh yes so i see guests are exempt from it which again is part of it you know
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troubles me because i'm overcome with envy at that comfortable uh unrestrained neck of a guest
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out there whilst i'm still bound up like this but i will get over it and as i said i'm quite
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unrestricted and free in other areas that the audience need never see or really think about any
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longer. So when you got to the, you went, I mean, let's just kind of lay out. You decided to go out
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and see firsthand and check out who the people were and met with a bunch when they were en route
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to Ottawa at a truck stop, right? On the way to Ottawa in Van Cleek Hill, about an hour's drive
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just over the border of Quebec. And right, I had been talking to some locals who were planning on
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volunteering to donate some food. And I sort of got wind of it. And I thought I was going to go
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and check it out. So arrived, you know, before sundown, and trucks were starting to roll in
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all kinds of vehicles, big and small. And they, you know, kept their bright lights on and honked
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their horns. And what developed over the course of several hours, despite the fact that it was
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minus 20 degrees outside was a really sort of you know friendly environment in which you know
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people who never met each other you know were smiling and and nodding at each other you know
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lots of you know hope and optimism in the air as it were uh volunteers had set up uh in a barn with
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a giant spread of food and provisions uh for the for the truckers and it was just really fantastic
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more than anything else for me, Corey, was just to see that, you know, that locals all on their
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own acting voluntarily could put something together in which they could try to help some
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people out, make sure that they had a safe place to stay the night. Some people were offering to
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make sure that, you know, they could, you know, get a hot shower in the morning and that they
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would have some food. And it was just a very friendly environment. And there were all kinds
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people there women and men french and english speaking vaccinated unvaccinated young and old
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uh and it was you know fireworks and and it was just a positive atmosphere it was just to me more
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than anything else corey what was refreshing was to see that this was still part of the canadian
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spirit i really went because i was worried i was worried that after you know two years of being
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isolated uh made to be afraid of each other told that if you're in the vicinity of other people
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it's going to be catastrophic uh being angry at each other accusing each other not being allowed
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to gather not being allowed to voluntarily assemble in order to try to do the kinds of
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things that canadians usually do to help each other out i was afraid that we had lost those
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habits i was afraid that we wouldn't see those again and so my attitude was when i wrote the
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article for the western standard was whatever people think about the the truckers themselves
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whatever people think about the convoy itself i wanted to let people know that i was really
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impressed and really it was the most sort of hope inspiring uh thing i've seen to see just all
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around that uh just ordinary canadians across the ideological spectrum across the socioeconomic
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spectrum just pitching in and trying to do good deeds by one another in a friendly classic canadian
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way. That's when I got to see Corian. That's, you know, I got to see people as well the next day
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over the overpass. These are, these are hope-filled people, whatever they're being depicted like in
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the, in the, in the media. These are hope-filled people being, being friendly Canadians. It was
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really refreshing to see. Great. Now I'll just cut in quickly. We got a note. So finally our
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pesky site is fully up and running. So to see Travis Smith's column and the news Dave was
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talking about and everything else, go to westernstandardonline.com. It's up and running.
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we got that rectified, so thanks for bearing with us. And so yes, back to you, Travis. I said it
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at the start of the show, but I should also expand on it. So you're an associate professor at
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Concordia University, I believe, in political science? That's correct, yes. Okay, great. Yes,
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so you've written as well on just the culture in general. I guess that's some previous columns that
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I've seen from you and such, and that sort of ties into this, though. I mean, you're looking at the
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broader social culture uh issues that are going on and i mean it was it's nice to see something
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positive though we we don't we don't have to give up we're not losing that's what i wanted to that
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was the message i wanted to say was that you know this is uh there's a sign that canada can bounce
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back the canadians can be canadians again and all these efforts that have been made to sort of drive
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us apart from each other and antagonize us and set us against each other uh there's no to me it
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a great hope a great time to hope that that won't necessarily succeed and i wanted to cheer that on
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yeah yeah i have been writing a number of things uh across a number of venues i decided that you
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know i i so my own research originally my dissertation was on the politics of medicine
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i wrote a i wrote my dissertation on to be frank the way which medicine could be used to destroy
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liberal democracy and i sort of you know watched what was going on for the longest time and you
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know didn't want to believe that that might be what was actually going on because it just seems
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so unfathomable and unlikely uh and more than anything else what really started to motivate me
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to start writing was when they introduced the passport certificates that to me was the thing
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that said that's not about public health that's a political measure and it's not a good one it's one
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that uh signals that uh our rights to voluntary consent are under threat and in a fashion that
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could be rendered permanent and could in much more thoroughgoing fashion affect all the small
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aspects and details of our lives in so many ways and i know that the politicians told us that they
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were temporary and limited but they're the same politicians that told us that they wouldn't
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implement them so i was wary of believing it when they put them in place like that
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and so as soon as those went in place i thought you know what out of out of an abundance of caution
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i thought i better start writing and and and and saying you know this could get bad this could go
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in ways in which that are very i don't know un-canadian as or and i want to stand up for
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the country that i love and believe in and uh and the people that and the the character of the
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canadian people and the i found it very disturbing that people were so quick to sign on to this
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platform in which the government was in some sort of you know overbearing domineering way going to
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deign to give us a tiny bit of our freedoms back if only we're willing to surrender whatever they
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demanded from us. And so I've written a number of pieces that have that kind of concern about them.
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But this past, last weekend, when I saw what I saw, I was like, okay, maybe there's reason to
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think that things will turn out well rather than poorly. Yeah, well, it's been an inspiring week.
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It really has. I mean, part of why government, look, the nature of government is always to just
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take a little more control, take a little more control. They are authoritarians by nature. These
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are people who have gotten into power because they want to run things. Even if they feel their
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intentions are good, they always want more and more control. That's just as natural as gravity.
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And they'll push it as far as the citizens will allow. And Canadians have always been very passive.
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We're fairly docile. We weren't a nation built out of revolution, such as the United States,
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for example. So we don't quite embrace, I think, that pushback against the state attitude as much.
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But now we seem to have hit more of a tipping point.
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And I think it's great because it's been a protest.
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And as you've been pointing out, it's been polite.
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I mean, yes, you know, again, we got that sick legacy media focused on a couple of outlying
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disgusting flags and overlooking the thousands and thousands of Canadian flags.
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We don't even see that many flags waving proudly on Canada Day.
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Right. Now, Corey, you know, as well as I do, this wasn't always the reputation of Canadians that we were wimpy or something like that.
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I mean, our reputation in the World Wars defies that caricature.
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Even just growing up in the 1970s, you know, we were rough and tumble, beer drinking, hockey playing, body checking guys.
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And so the sort of attitude that, you know, you don't you don't mess with Canadians was was a stereotype up until more recently, I think.
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And what's interesting is, you know, the images we're getting are, you know, as much as the media wants to depict what's going on in places like Ottawa as if it were, you know, the most violent and the most vile sorts of people engaging in wanton acts of destruction.
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You know, if that was the case, the footage of that would be everywhere.
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But they don't have the footage of that because that's not what's happening.
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These are the people that supply you with the goods that you need to live your life.
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These are the people we go to the pub with and have a conversation with at the bar.
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These are the people that we hang out with and play a game of Euchre with.
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And so it's just striking the difference between what I see and what I'm familiar with and the way in which it's being depicted.
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by the Prime Minister and by his agents in the media.
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Well, that's why it's been so, I mean, that's the other thing that's heartened me is watching.
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People haven't fallen for what the mainstream's done.
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I mean, people can see through just how badly they've gotten.
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And alternative outlets like ourselves have turned into a go-to.
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People have finally said that's enough out of the mainstream.
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And they're coming in droves to outlets such as ours and Candace's True North or Rebel
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And then the ability for people like yourself to say, well, I'm going to get up and go out on the ground and just see for myself.
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I mean, if you'd have gone there, I imagine, and they were all vicious and nasty and spitting at you.
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I just prefer to keep with my books and teach my classes.
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This would have been my comfort zone to go there.
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And you would have written saying, geez, I hate to say it, but we've got a bunch of crazy people heading to Ottawa.
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I wanted to see something nice, but it's not going on.
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I would have raised that alarm in an instant. Absolutely.
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Can you imagine what the overpasses would have been like
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if it was positive 20 degrees out instead of minus 20?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, and that's a factor for older people,
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That's a chilly place to go standing around outdoors.
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I was a surveyor for 20 years. It's unpleasant.
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So you better be pretty dedicated to get out there.
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and thousands were. And we saw Hutterites out there. I don't think maybe some Eastern viewers
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not who don't have a lot of experience with Hutterites don't realize how significant that is.
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I mean, these are usually some of the most politically impartial people around. They just
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want to be left alone. They're on the colony. They have their thing and they stay out of politics if
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at all possible. And they were out because they're also business people. They're also and some Hutterite
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leaders were saying they they're not anti-vaccination. The majority of Hutterites have
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on in and got vaccinated, but they drive trucks. They have businesses, they're farmers and they're
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concerned for this. And again, this needs to be reported on, you know, we're seeing something
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happening in Canada. We haven't seen in a long time. Yeah. This is the portrait that they're
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trying to portray is trying to minimize the diversity of people who are concerned about
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policies like the mandates and the lockdowns. I mean, the portrait they're trying to play is
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false. And which also is not only false, I can't be the only one who finds it disturbing
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that our own prime minister seems to suggest that people of color and women don't want to
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be free and don't like freedom. I don't get that. I don't know why that's acceptable for him to be
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implying. Of all people, he's one who really shouldn't be speaking on behalf of people of
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color uh but i mean again he takes it upon himself as the woke uh self-styled messiah of of uh
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political correctness i think and it's and people are seeing through it i think
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we started seeing some really ugly rhetoric out of him during the campaign and if anyone
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should be accused of speaking hate some of the language that he's put in some of his interviews
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then and since then um deliberately trying to manufacture division trying to set canadians
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against each other make them distrust each other make them you know ready to accuse each other or
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worse when they when all canadians ought to be realizing by now who's who's actually been
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responsible for the misery that they've been enduring for so long but it's it's a kind of
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misdirection it's a you know one of the oldest tricks in the book for political leaders to make
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sure that they don't take responsibility for themselves and trying to accuse uh the people
00:33:22.260
that they've harmed of being the guilty parties so that the other people who've been harmed can
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can direct their anger at them instead. Yeah, well, we're starting to see through and around
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it and means through things such as social media, communication, independent media like ours, you
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know, we're getting to the citizens without that filter of the establishment out there. But I
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noticed that, of course, Bill C-10 has reared its ugly head again, and the government is kind of a
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curveball. I know you hadn't spoke on it before, but it seems an indication the government's
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worried about having their messaging bypassed. And here they come again to see if they can find
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ways to control the information that's leaking beyond their gatekeeping.
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Look, the whole discourse around misinformation stinks of the discourse in the PRC about what
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they call rumor mongering, where you can be accused of crimes if you're engaged in rumor
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mongering and uh this is disturbing i've got a close friend of mine who's from beijing who came
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to canada became a canadian citizen my son and i went and stood there for him at his citizenship
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ceremony and he says to me that he can't believe how much canada looks and sounds like the place
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that he left behind him now and it's very distressing and something like that degree of
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censorship is very concerning. It is absolutely, and I don't think they will get away with it,
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you know, I don't, but it could turn into a very ugly battle. I mean, social media control of
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information, the world has changed. The best the government can do is play whack-a-mole,
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but for every source they block in one spot, it'll spring out in five others. But again,
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they can really divide us and make quite a mess in their efforts to do so. We're concerned at the
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Western Standard. I mean, we're doing fantastic as an alternative media outlet. We would be the
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low-hanging fruit out there because we are a legitimate media company. We're a registered
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company. There's a number of licensing things or things that the state could do to try to shun our
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message. But then other individual voices, independent ones, will spring out of the sides
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and make up for it. But they could really just harm this new development of free exchange of
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information. And I'm kind of worried about it. It's pretty much an attack upon another attack
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upon another one of our most fundamental rights yeah this this this increasing sort of idea that
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uh there's no aspect of the lives of citizens that shouldn't be uh regulated into into oblivion
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well i'm optimistic and apprehensive at the same time i really appreciated you know you're getting
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off your butt and going out there in person so you can tell us the people who haven't been able
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to see it necessarily face to face that indeed, you know, this isn't a violent or crazy or nasty
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movement. These are genuine Canadians expressing themselves. And I'm certain the ones that are
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still on the Hill are just the same. So in closing, that's an assistant professor at
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political science at Concordia University and columnist for the Western Standard occasionally,
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Travis Smith, where else can we find more information on what you're up to and where
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you're writing in such, Travis? People can find me at at 22, Travis G. Smith.
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and I've written articles on COVID times in Convivium and for the Society for Academic
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Freedom and Scholarship among other places. Great yeah that's one of the ones I was
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referencing Convivium so if you look that up then there's some great extended pieces in there for
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more reading on your thoughts on all those things. Yeah there's a couple of articles that I wrote
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back last fall October November where I posed the question as to whether or not we're living in a
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Well, I appreciate your work and I appreciate you joining us today, Travis.
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Thank you very much for having me today, Corey.
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I hope everybody is taking care of themselves and taking care of each
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And you know, I really like to run just those counterpoints and you know what,
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if there had been, I mean, I've talked about that in past shows before I went
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to protests here in Calgary that were smaller and unfortunately the tone wasn't
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I was hoping to see, you know, a better thing developing.
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And this Truckers for Freedom Convoy has done that.
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It's always happened, but there's such a larger number of people now that they aren't getting
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sidelined or sidetracked by the less rational folks, perhaps, in the midst.
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So, yeah, sorry, I got a little sidetracked there.
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With some of those commentary, you know, from Brad Hagen, you know, an interesting thing
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and Derek was saying it in the newsroom this morning
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and we see memes about it and there's a lot of truth about it
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of years ago is becoming fact today. I mean, not
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everything yet. There's still some pretty crazy conspiracy
00:38:06.960
theories out there. You know, I don't think the lizard people are
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you know, that we're being controlled by microchips
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I spoke with somebody else about, you know, the Great Reset.
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called that because even off the bat, it sounds
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and people dismiss it, you know, but this is from the World Economic Forum. This is their own words.
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You can look it up. Great Reset. So Brad brought that up because Justin Trudeau spoke to that World
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Economic Forum. He talked to them and he said in other interviews, if you Google that stuff,
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Justin Trudeau talks about Great Reset and what that theory is. It's a thought of pursuing a
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socialist paradise. If we could just break down the system hard enough, we can rebuild it into
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something in their eyes beautiful, which it tends to be a very socialist world that doesn't involve
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individualism. It's not a conspiracy theory. It really is something that some of these people
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believe in Ottawa, not all of them, but Justin Trudeau does seem to be an adherent to it. And
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they see this pandemic as an opportunity rather than a tragedy, a problem. They see a bigger end
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to this than just hindering the spread of a virus. They're looking at a way to reset the
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population. And as Brad's saying, perhaps reset the banking system. And I know Brad differs with
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we're going to check in with James Finkbeiner pretty soon here. But I, you know, I'm always
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negative. I'm always crabby and then things like that. For those familiar with him, Stephen Carter
00:40:58.300
has been fired again. Stephen Carter was the weenie behind the leader. He always is. That's
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his role. And, you know, with every leader, you always have one. You have the, you know,
00:41:12.860
person behind Mr. Burns. What's his name again on The Simpsons? Why am I forgetting that? Either
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way, I mean, he's even more principled than Stephen Carter. Carter was, yes, there's the
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cover from The Sun, Chief of Stiff, he was called. That was put out just shortly after, I believe,
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he got fired from Premier Redford's office. This guy shows up like a rash on Alberta politics,
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has for quite some years, so I'll give a little bit of history of him. Yeah, he was at Redford's
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office. He managed to be the campaign manager who got Nenshi elected,
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but I think him and Nenshi parted ways later. He always parts ways with his
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employers pretty quickly afterwards. He moved on. He was with the Wildrose Party, unfortunately,
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while I was in the Wildrose Party on the board. He didn't last very long
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there before he left in scandal. And then, unfortunately, and maybe
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as we talk about the book down the road, somebody at the Wildrose Party
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he foolishly hired him yet again. And, uh, and, uh, he was, uh, he quit, I think only a couple
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months afterwards. And of course had all that information. Where does he go? To Alison Redford's
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office to work for Premier Redford with another party. I mean, this is a man who just, wherever
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his bills are paid, he'll go. So he went on from that. He went on to, uh, what's her name? Uh,
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Sandra Janssen, if those people remember that, hysteric, opportunistic, progressive, conservative
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She was always playing the victim going on, but to be honest, what she was was not the
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She actually tabled legislation to hinder gay-street alliances in schools, and when that all fell
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apart, she suddenly tried to model herself as a defender of rights for the LGBTQ community.
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Then she crossed the floor to the NDP, from the Conservatives to the NDP, in order to get a cabinet seat.
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Of course, she said, no, I'm not there to get a cabinet seat. I'm there to be there.
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And then before the election loomed, it looked like she was going to lose her seat.
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She left Rachel Notley hanging and quit without notice and vanished from the political scene.
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We don't miss her. I kind of miss her for some of the comic relief.
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Either way, going farther back, Stephen Carter, for a short period, was her campaign manager.
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as she tried and failed to run for the progressive conservative party leadership. They didn't even
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manage to get enough signatures to get her name on the ballot. She claimed, of course, it was
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prejudice and she was a victim and that's why she didn't run. But it's baloney. It's because nobody
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supported her. Carter then moved on to the Alberta party. Now my timelines might be a little
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bumped around here. The Alberta party was this group that, you know, they've been around. They're
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still around. They try to keep saying, we're the middle. We're the middle. You know, we're not the
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left. We're not the right. And what it leads to all the time is electoral obliteration. Though
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they did have one leader who was doing really well, and he won a seat in Calgary Elbow, I believe it
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was. And man, I am terrible with names sometimes. He was a really good guy, actually. That's part
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of why he won. He won on the force of his own personality. But Stephen Carter and some other
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progressive conservative hacks got in there and said, we can fix this Alberta party. And they
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managed to actually push the leader aside, the popular leader, the one who had his seat. And
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they brought in the former mayor of Edmonton, Stephen
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Mandel, in there and said, this is how we're going to win. Well, Stephen Mandel
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led the Alberta party into electoral obliteration. They lost the one seat
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they had. And I think they had a floor crosser who gave them a seat for a bit too or something. But
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it was the end of the thing. And then Carter just kind of marched off onto another
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thing. He set up a business deal. That's what the Chief of Stiff
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thing was about, that it was supposed to involve a big show with the Dalai Lama and a bunch
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of things. And it all fell apart and went to crap. And a number of creditors got hooped. That's why
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he's known as Chief of Stiff. And either way, all the way along the lines, he managed Jody Gondek's
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campaign in Calgary to be mayor. And she won. And after, right on the 100th day of her being in,
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Carter got fired. So, I mean, he's a guy who'll do anything to win. It makes for, I guess,
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you know if you're not worried about principle and things a good campaign manager if your goal
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is just to get in and nothing else he pulls that off he's done it multiple times but once he's in
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there they can't tolerate that that weasel and he ends out on his butt Dave's been reporting on that
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and there's a number of background as to why he got fired he said to the news yesterday that he
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didn't know but it sounds like a lot of people do and we'll be hearing more about it so either way
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there's your good news story for today i mean it's not too ongoing because guys like him are
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never gone he will just surface somewhere else but for the time being he is not in the mayor's
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office and i'm happy for that good luck on your job hunt steven uh looks good on you uh by the
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way just a teaser for at the end of the show something different and on a positive note i got
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a fantastic thing we'll play at the end as we're talking patriotic upbeat things from the protests
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Well, we've got a version of the national anthem that is fantastic and quite fun.
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And we will play that at the end of the show for those of you who are still with us at that time.
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That's what I'm saying. Stick with us. We've got stuff going all the way along.
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Just another reminder, I'm going to be checking in pretty quickly here.
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Has somebody, Brad, just said anything new on Cootes?
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I'm going to find out pretty quickly in a couple of minutes here.
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I'm going to bring James in. He's been languishing down there for days, live, interacting with the people, getting direct news.
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and that's what's important. Again, we're not, there's so many rumors. I mean, everything's
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turning on a dime so fast. It's so important to get people on the ground and see. That's what was
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great with Travis. That's what's great with James down there. You know, they can at least talk one
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on one. It's still hard. You know, I mean, it's a, it's hard for James. He's got a ground level view
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in one spot and everything's now spread out. They're up by Milk River. They're down by Kootz
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and we're talking distances at 20, 30 kilometers away. Uh, you know, so think of it like a football
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game, you know, if you've got seats right on the edge of the field, hey, it's excellent for the
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experience of the game. But in reality, if you're sitting way up on the nosebleeds, you're going to
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see a whole lot more of the game. You need that balance between those perspectives. So James down
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on the ground, and he's tracking it as fast and furiously as he can. He's doing a fantastic job.
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But sometimes, yeah, you hear one thing down the south end of the protest, and there's a different
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thing happening in the north end. So it's constantly unfolding and changing as we go.
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um yes let's see Mike Thomas yes I had him on the show oh wait a minute looks like James is here
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okay well we're live and things happen now why not I was just going to ramble about Mike Thomas
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anyways if James is ready to talk I'll I'll take him in and we'll get an update how you doing James
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I'm good how are you Corey good good well you look warm and indoors that's good it's a little
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better out there today isn't it it's way better today the wind almost feels warm today it's uh
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still i think it's minus 10 still but it feels a whole lot warmer so you've been entrenched down
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there for days now on the uh coots trucker border convoy blockade siege whatever description we want
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to do day by day as things evolve uh where are things standing right now may you give us a rundown
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today is probably the most dynamic fluid day that that's been going on down here uh things are
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changing minute by minute by minute um but you know what the word of the day today is de-escalation
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uh i think every every group down here has kind of come off of a hard line position
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and they're they're talking to each other they're negotiating with each other um you know nobody's
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nobody's worried about swat vehicles rolling in anymore nobody's worried about mass arrests
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nobody's worried about truckers getting pulled out of their trucks um nobody's worried about
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the blockades being blown by tractors today uh you know things are things are at a very calm
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place right now um that's not to say things won't change because the uh the the the truckers are
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telling me that they're going to hold the line and and that's what they're going to do is hold the
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line okay so it's been back and forth as you said though in fluid there were some changes like they
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did start opening up and letting traffic through uh part of it what people have to understand is
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like there's more than one blockade so in order for that to work the rcmp have to actually open
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up farther north and let traffic through and uh it's gotten some commercial vehicles through to
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the border but there's still hindrances going on yeah so just to give you a bit of a timeline corey
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uh yesterday afternoon shortly after our show we had uh some some breaking news from from the group
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uh they had been in communication with a group of mlas and uh it was originally reported to
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us that they had struck a deal they had struck a deal with the mlas uh that turned out to be a
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miscommunication between the the massive group of of uh protesters here and essentially there's
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uh part of the group is is working with the mlas part of the group we're working with lawyers part
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of the group we're working with farmers part of the group are working with truckers and that's
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the thing with this kind of protest is is it's not one group that's leading this there are several
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groups that's leading this so there's been so much discussion and confusion around the discussion
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that's going on um that uh everybody just kind of said like we we don't know what's going on
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um but what ended up happening was the truckers as a show of good faith pulled to the shoulder
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of the road opened up a lane in both directions in and out of the village of coots opened access
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to the border moved out of the way and and said we're not leaving we're holding the line but we
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are not going to create an illegal blockade anymore there's no illegal blockade at coots
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so from there um over the course of the day um more protesters who had originally left the
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original protest from saturday and others that have wanted to join the protest started to arrive
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at the milk river uh checkpoint the police checkpoint now there has been a group down there
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uh since saturday since the uh police checkpoint went up uh the majority of them there's about a
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core group down there 25 to 50 people that have stayed um basically since that checkpoint went up
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uh there's also been you know another 50 to 100 um other protesters that have joined that area
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to support them um last night i went down i talked to them earlier in the evening i asked them you
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know why are you guys here what brought you guys here and they said we're here to show the guys
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in coots that they have support they're not alone we're here to hold the line with them
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over the course of the evening um commercial traffic was restored uh to the border at about
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11 o'clock uh two two commercial vehicles passed through the police checkpoint and uh we followed
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them all the way back to the border we watched them cross through uh they made it they made it
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all the way from milk river all the way into the united states completely uncumbered and nobody
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pulled out nobody stopped them nothing happened around that time discussions with uh the the two
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different groups the the group at milk river and the group at coots uh they started talking to the
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rcmp and they said well there you go there there's your proof that we've done what we've been asked to
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do can the protest groups join each other and the the answer has been no the rcmp have not let any
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additional protesters down to the coot site um there there is a checkpoint there they're letting
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locals through they're letting um media through and they're letting the occasional commercial
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vehicle through i do not want to say that they are letting every commercial vehicle through
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because i haven't talked to the rcmp about it i asked the sheriffs about it on my way through
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earlier and they said well it depends and that's the other thing they have sheriffs down here they
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have rcmp down here i have seen lethbridge municipal police down here with the rolling
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protests across the province the rcmp the sheriffs everybody are spread thin they are they are moving
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around and responding to everything as they can so it's just it's a it's a fluid situation across
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the whole province right now corey but i i drove down to milk river this morning i wanted to go
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see what was happening down there and uh i tell you i drove all the way from coots all the way
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through milk river there was a clear lane open all the way through there was a clear lane open
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all the way back and it's it's not the zigzagging clear lane that it was before it's a straight shot
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all the way through uh there there's no obstacles in the middle of the lane and as i understand it
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right now. The protest vehicles are moving further out of the driving lanes and onto the shoulder.
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Yeah, so things sound like they're calming down. I mean, part of it was
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prefaced on some of the negotiations. There was some misinterpretation about potentially a number
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of MLAs that were negotiating or might be coming down. It sounds like some sources said there were
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some perhaps acting on their own, but it never had the sanction of the United Conservative Party.
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at the Western Standard, I mean, we've got the sources saying UCP MLAs were told to stall for
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time over ending these COVID restrictions. It sounds like the government is backing down
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provincially, but they're doing it slowly and painfully and not necessarily, they don't want
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to admit it's in response to this protest, I suspect. That's what I'm actually being told
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by a lot of the protesters down here today, is that's what they're hearing. They're hearing from
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their MLA contacts. And I got to tell you, a lot of these rural MLAs have been responding to their
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constituents. I've been told like several different examples of where these people have
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reached out to their MLAs. They've sent them pictures. They've been communicating with them.
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The MLAs are in communication with their constituents. And I mean, just like the
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truckers right now and differing opinions on how they want to handle this protest and what they
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should do. The MLAs are having the exact same situation. I think everybody just wants to do
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what the right thing. And I think they're trying to get there. They're just working out how to get
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there right now. Yeah, well, in an already complicated situation, we do have a premier
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who's facing a leadership review in April. A lot of people speculated he was holding the restrictions
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almost as a card in his pocket that he could drop before then and drop the restrictions and make
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everybody happy, but now he's moving it up and he's moving it up. And now he's even saying
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it's going to come quickly, but it makes it difficult for him to keep caucus under control
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when, you know, there's a lot of, unfortunately, politics being played here. I mean, he doesn't
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have that control over all of those MLAs that a stronger premier or he, or as he did when he was
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stronger himself in the past. So it's hard to get a clear message from elected officials right now.
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yeah exactly and and i mean we've kind of seen that the whole way through like you've got uh
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todd lowens you've got drew barnes you've got the the rebels inside the caucus and and uh you know
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there's just been a lot of mixed messaging the way the way people feel in the cities is not the
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way people feel in the country and it's reflected from their constituents up to their mlas and then
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their MLAs try to represent them and you know they're getting head off and and just like um
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the these rural Albertans these truckers these hard-working blue-collar people feel like they're
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not being listened to a lot of these MLAs are feeling the same way right now uh I've tried
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reaching out to a couple of them I haven't got any responses back as of yet um they've been
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coordinating a lot of stuff uh they've been helping to de-escalate this situation and and you know uh
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Earlier this week, there was just a vacuum of political leadership.
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When they started talking to these protesters, that's when things started to de-escalate.
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When these truckers felt like they were being listened to, that's when the situation came down.
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They are backing down, but they are holding the line.
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They are not forming an illegal blockade, but they are not ending their protests.
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There's only been a couple of protesters that have left, and they left in response to commercial traffic being let through last night.
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Around 11 o'clock, those commercial vehicles came through.
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By about 12 o'clock last night, the Milk River protesters blockaded the southbound lanes.
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they would not let commercial vehicles through there anymore and by about 1 30 we started
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receiving reports that there was farm equipment and tractors with dozers coming to blow the police
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line and i raced back down there i was there till almost three o'clock this morning uh the tractors
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did show up there was an extremely frustrated protester operating that tractor and the other
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protesters got out in front of that tractor and they talked them down they said look this is not
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going to help anything this is not going to change the minds of anyone this is not going to win hearts
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over to our cause so calm down and you know what he calmed down he uh he shut his unit off he backed
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away they de-escalated the situation and everything remained calm all the way until this morning
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this morning they had some meetings uh the group at coots drove down to talk to the group at milk
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river they said guys we need open lanes we do not want to form an illegal blockade and they have
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opened up the lanes i have some video that i'm going to get out here as soon as i possibly can
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showing that the lanes are open all the way to milk river and all the way from milk river back
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to the border great you know and something you said it was very important and it's worth um
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transferring because we got protests of course all across the country particularly the one
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in ottawa and how a lot of them just want to know that their voices are getting heard at the higher
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levels of power i mean some people are saying all or nothing will never budge until we get
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everything but a lot of people are reasonable like if they know it's being respectfully listened to
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it can already calm things and in ottawa we have none of that the prime minister won't even
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acknowledge the thousands of people up there i mean i understand okay he doesn't have to come
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up and say yeah you're right and i'm going to reverse all of my mandates or i don't expect
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to go in there and shake hands and meet with them in person, but acknowledge them, respect them,
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listen to them. And you know what? It's a better, if you don't like them blocking things up, that's
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a more effective way to get them to stop rather than insulting them. Like, you know, Justin Trudeau,
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if you remember in the past, he went and went into the teepee of the fake hunger striker,
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Teresa Spence, the one who managed to actually gain weight on a hunger strike. He took her
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seriously enough to go right into the teepee and spend some time with her or with Black Lives
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matter. I mean, they were rioting all over the country and Justin goes out there and kneels with
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them. Now, I don't expect such, you know, behavior perhaps with this protest, but as you found down
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there, and I'm certain the mindset of the demonstrators is similar all over. If they
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could just be respectfully heard, they can start to work towards a resolution of all this.
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Oh, exactly, Corey. You know what surprises me is that the words that everybody uses for the
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police is de-escalation. Why can't you guys de-escalate a situation? Why does it always
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end in violence? And what we're seeing is Justin Trudeau and Jason Kenney have poured gasoline on
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this fire by accusing them of assaulting police officers, of being racist, of being white
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supremacists. And, you know, all of these things are just fundamentally untrue. The mainstream
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media is reporting this Nazi flag like every single protester that went there is carrying this
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Nazi flag. And these people are sitting here looking at each other and saying, this isn't
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what's happening. We just want to be listened to. We want to feel like the people that we elected
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to represent us are listening to us. And once they started getting that, this situation here
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de-escalated. And I think if our leaders would have approached the situation by saying, we're
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listening to you, we understand, we're going to work at this together, I don't think we would
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have got to this point. And I know that's offering my opinion and stretching there, but I've been
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with these guys for six days now. I have not seen any violence. I've seen a lot of prayer. I've seen
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a lot of thoughtful conversation uh and and and they just have been painted in a different light
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and i and and it's it's important today to see that the protesters are are de-escalating the
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rcmp have asked them de-escalate de-escalate and at every possible chance both the protesters
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and and the police have de-escalated and and i think that is a very positive positive message
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from this. Yeah, absolutely. And again, it's not just your opinion, because you are reporting on
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what you've seen down there. I mean, if they wanted to remain intransigent, if they were still
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upset, those trucks would still be fully blocking that road. They never would have backed off.
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Things might even have gotten, unfortunately, violent if things had stayed entrenched. I mean,
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you have to have a vent, you know, the pressure keeps building up. And these guys have shown
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they're willing to back off a little. They're not leaving the site, but they're seeing reason,
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and they'll move. We've seen heated social media voices and fools saying, oh, just get in there
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with the bulldozers and move them. Even if you had the equipment, that's a recipe to take a
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peaceful situation, even if it's frustrating, and turn it terribly violent and people will get
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hurt. And that's just a ridiculous approach. This has been, I think so far, I mean, there's lots of
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fingers to point, but a good example of behavior on the part of the police and the protesters.
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I mean, there's some mistakes on both sides, but they're working towards resolution.
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There's a group of protesters here at Coots and a secondary group of protesters at Melk River.
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They're talking to the RCMP, and they're talking to the lawyer that they've retained.
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and and they're taking cues from each other and as one group backs off another group backs off
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as the drivers here cleared the lanes and opened the lanes up the rcmp presence just greatly reduced
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uh at one point that you could you could look every direction and you would see headlights and
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flashing lights at night uh there was checkpoints all over the place those have backed off for the
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most part now you don't have an rcmp vehicle on every corner in the village of coots anymore and
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and you know what last night um it took them nine and a half hours i was told but uh police on guard
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uh actually brought down food and the rcmp escorted them from the milk river checkpoint
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to the coots saloon and uh they they came in they had a meal together they talked about their fears
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they talked about their frustrations and there was some great dialogue going on in there it was
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just great to see right you know i i just i uh you know the rcmp's taken a lot of heat for a lot
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of stuff for a long time we've we've seen the calgary police and their interactions with hockey
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players and arresting pastors and just all of this craziness over the course of the pandemic
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and what we're seeing here is just the opposite of that they are meeting with these people they are
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respecting them no one's yelling at each other no one's threatening each other it's been calm
01:05:20.460
respectful conversations even as the rcmp was doing the original um line and and and we live
01:05:28.060
streamed it and they were going truck to truck to truck they were knocking on the doors and they
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were telling the drivers you can drive out of here right now or you can be arrested and some of them
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left some of them drove drove away some of them just got out of their trucks and uh and uh walked
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to the back of the line with the rest of the protesters the rcmp could have drug those people
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out of those trucks arrested them and taken them to jail and and and they didn't and uh you know
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by not doing that they de-escalated the situation the truckers moved off to the side they opened up
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the lanes but they they are saying they are going to stay here they want the government to make
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changes and they're going to stay here until that happens no and it's good we can give credit where
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it's due and getting those reports from the ground um before i let you go and i want to talk a bit
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about where people can find you because you keep updating and we'll keep breaking in live if
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anything does develop and get rolling uh both uh cheryl and jason did ask though there was a rumor
01:06:25.180
i think we clarified that at the newsroom this morning about paul brant showing up there i don't
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believe there's been any direct evidence that that really happened and perhaps that might be a
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internet rumor unfortunately uh it sounds like it's a rumor yeah it's a rumor uh it's definitely
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going around i've heard it a lot here uh i have been asking as many people as i can about it
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and uh nobody has seen him yeah i think it's probably in the realm i mean paul brandt's
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been very supportive of things and outspoken on but i suspect that this one might just be uh the
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realm of things but that's important and that's part of the commenting thing with a live show
01:07:03.720
you know people want to get their questions in you've been on the ground and uh so who knows
01:07:07.520
maybe he snuck in and out of there nobody quite noticed it but more than likely it might have
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been just a rumor um so where uh somebody's saying we have a photo yeah nobody's been able
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to identify paul in that photo i'm afraid i uh i actually passed that photo around last night and
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one of the ladies that's in that photo told me that she's in that photo and paul brandt is not
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in that photo so um unless paul brandt himself says that he's in that picture i am not going to
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confirm that because i have tried i have asked a lot of people and they have all told me that
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that's not Paul Brandt and he is not in that picture. Yeah. And others are referencing the
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picture as well. If it gets confirmed, I mean, Hey, we'll report it. I mean, it'd be a pretty
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cool thing. We don't want to hide it if he was down there, but as it stands, we can't say it if
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we don't have proof. So at that point, but we, we, you know, gave what we, what we know on the
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ground. So as people have seen as well, you'll pop in. I mean, we're not sure when Derek's going
01:08:00.600
to let you come back to Calgary, but if anything breaks you, of course, we'll come in with live
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coverage and where can we watch like your Twitter account there and such, because you tweet things
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as soon as they happen yeah I've been live tweeting from from my my Twitter
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account my Twitter handle is at Jimmy Bianchi I believe you've retweeted a lot
01:08:20.660
of my stuff so your followers can can find me there as well other than that
01:08:26.480
I I've been sending my reports back to the newsroom Mel Rizdin's been writing
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the story for us she's been keeping us updated she's been doing a great job her
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Other than that, if you need to reach out to me,
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I'm going to get to our next guest pretty soon.
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As you see with James, we have people on the ground at these events as they happen. Or when
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01:09:42.660
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01:09:49.480
Kerry Diodd, people might, in Alberta, everybody knows who he is, but he was a member of parliament
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for Edmonton Grispa from 2015 to 2021, an Edmonton city councillor from 2010 to 2013. And then he was
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a journalist in radio, TV, newspapers, a lot in Edmonton. He was with the Edmonton Sun since
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the mid-80s. I read many of his columns as I read Politics in Growing. So it's great to have
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him on and we'll bring him in and let's talk about the other unfolding event going on. While
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Canada is going crazy, we're suddenly into a conservative leadership race. Hey, Kerry,
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how are you doing? I'm doing great, Corey. How are you? Very good. Thanks. There's certainly,
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at least for a news organization, plenty to keep us occupied these days, sometimes positive,
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sometimes negative. So I appreciate you coming in. You know, we knew there was a lot of threats to
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Aaron O'Toole's leadership, you know, leading up to this, but still, it seemed to come quite
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suddenly and quite decisively. I mean, that wasn't a close vote. No, it wasn't. And I think that,
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I think it all started essentially back way before the election was called on the whole
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carbon tax issue because we were not consulted about it was kind of sprung on us and i think
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that uh you know in 2019 when i would go to the doors and knock on doors and say hey do you want
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to get rid of the carbon tax people go absolutely okay so vote for me we'll get rid of trudeau and
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the carbon tax it took a huge um plank out of our our platform and despite what anybody said
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even if you could try to argue, it wasn't really a tax, it was a savings plan. I had people at
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the doors tell me, you know what, I like Trudeau's plan better because I get money in my pocket.
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So it was an experiment that didn't work. Yeah. And I mean, there were a number of
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people perhaps who weren't happy with some of the stances that Mr. O'Toole had taken,
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but personally for me, that was the big one too, because it was just such a clear and flagrant flip
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to flop. I mean, the Taxpayers Federation had a picture of him standing next to a sign signing
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saying he will never do that. I mean, you couldn't talk around that and say that you didn't claim
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otherwise. And it wasn't like it was 10 years earlier when he made that pledge. That was just
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a short time before the election. So that certainly frustrated people and lost a lot of confidence in
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him. And of course, the thing that was being told to us at the time, and we all sort of somewhat
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accepted a little bit we said look we've got to win seats around the big areas around metro
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toronto we've got to do these kinds of things we've got to we've got to um do these kinds of
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measures and i i personally did not like it but i i would go to the doors and explain it to people
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and say look this is the rationale they they would be upset i'd say this is the rationale
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this is a way that we can win, give it a try. But obviously those kinds of stances did not win us
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the election. So I think from there, it was the beginning of the end for Aaron's vision. It really
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was. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, we'll move on from Aaron. He clearly, he took his kick at the
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can. He didn't win the election. He lost the confidence of his own caucus and now he's no
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longer the leader. So, I mean, we all can always dissect and look a little further back into that.
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But now looking forward, we're going into a leadership race. One name we know isn't going
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to throw her name in the hat, I guess, is Candace Bergen because she's taken on the role of interim
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leader. What do you see developing now? I mean, they're kind of in a rush. We've got a minority
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government. You can't have a really protracted leadership race at this point. No, I think you're
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right it's let's let's face it a government could fall at any time nobody knows exactly what could
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happen and it's a very volatile time in in society um so uh first off candace is a really good choice
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she's good she's solid she's conservative she's well respected and she will do as well as uh as
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an interim leader obviously the first name that pops up in everybody's mind is Pierre Polyev and
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there are so many people who are not even big political junkies who say that guy that that
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Pierre yeah I like that Pierre what's his name you know Polyev yeah yeah that guy that guy we
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like that guy so he would have a huge influence in alberta we would kick butt in alberta if we
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chose him as a leader assuming he he goes for it and you know he's got some difficult choices to
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make he's got a young family but he has what i like about pierre he's got a built-in following
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he is uh i loved his clip the other day when the uh the cbc was going on about the demonstrators
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And he just talked, he just, I think everybody saw it.
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He talked about the fact that the CBC doesn't demonize left-wing protesters the way they demonize the trucker protests.
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I mean, there's no denying Pierre's smart as a whip and he's quick on his feet.
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And something, though, you know Pierre better not.
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That's something I sort of talked about, what I think kind of happened with Premier
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You know, he was a magnificent cabinet minister, but he's really having some challenges as
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And nobody can deny Jason Kenney's a hardworking, smart man, but he just can't seem to quite
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Just Pierre Polyev, now he's been an incredible opposition member.
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I think that's almost part of, even though he didn't purposely, what harmed O'Toole
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because he would steal the spotlight because he was so effective in holding government
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do you think though Pierre has then what it takes to pivot into a leadership role you know talking
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to caucus uniting caucus and getting that broader appeal across across Canadians rather than you
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know the ones he already has well I certainly know what the media will say right off the bat
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and they've already started talking about that they'll say the party is pivoting hard right
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the party is going all right it's it's just again it's the media narrative and it drives me crazy
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As a longtime journalist who I worked in journalism for 30 years, I'm just embarrassed by the mainstream media.
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I never realized until I became a member of Parliament how anti-conservative they are and how anti-fair they are.
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They're cheerleading trying to get rid of protesters in Ottawa.
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and they will go after the likes of of pierre or anybody that comes from the conservative
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the the true conservative side of the conservative party as some kind of alt-right there's it and
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i think i think canadians will tune it out if you look at here's here's an interesting stat to talk
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about how how people uh uh view things right now the the truckers uh raised 10 million dollars from
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average ordinary canadians before the uh gofundme page was was shut down that's more than all the
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major political parties in canada raised in the last quarter so that tells you there's a movement
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there and i know that people like pierre people who are true to conservative roots can tap into
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that movement people are sick of this middle of the road manby pamby try to please the left
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scenario we never we're never going to get some people to vote for us never and by playing up to
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them is a huge mistake these people will never vote for us no and that's good you know to hear
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we're hearing it from a lot of former journalists you know and uh even rex murphy i mean an icon of
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the cbc but he he can't help but speak now on how rotten that institution has become
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uh and and yes but we what i've gotten excited about as you pointed out with the fundraiser
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for example, and the amount of attention. And of course, with people like us at the Western
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Standard, the legacy media aren't the gatekeepers of information anymore. They can't stop it. It's
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like they put up a dam and the water's just flowing around and it's getting to people
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despite their best efforts. And as you said, people are starting to tune them out. So yeah,
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if the next leader of the Conservatives isn't reactive to them, they could probably blunt that
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weapon yeah i agree and you know what the uh the reason that the people's party got such a bump in
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the last election is that nobody seemed to be speaking for a lot of canadians and i think that
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if we have a solid person with conservative values real conservative values it will spell the end of
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the ppc essentially but we in the last little while um under the previous leader unfortunately
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we're too afraid to be unapologetically conservative and that's not alt-right that's
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just conservative values we care about freedom we care about family we care about balanced budgets
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and we care about private property rights that's that's what most Canadians uh care about so we've
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got to start reflecting what Canadians think and you think about how they if you saw the scenes
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when the truckers went across the country people came out by the thousands to cheer them on like
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heroes. So we've got to tap into that market. If we're missing that market, we're missing
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the heart of Canadians. Yeah, well, so going to the other end of it, this race is probably going
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to develop with people with different visions and views. Where, I mean, it's going to be a race
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between, you know, Pierre is clearly in the small C conservative camp, assuming he decides to run.
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I mean, we're being presumptuous, but he's certainly the most popular at this point.
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Where would the progressive voice come from? Do you think Peter McKay would throw his hat in again,
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or Michelle Rumpel-Garner or somebody, you know, Chong even?
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I think that we will probably have a few because it's a good gig, let's face it.
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But it takes a lot of money and it takes a lot of effort.
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I know that my former colleague, Marilyn Gladue, has talked about it.
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She comes from a good background as an engineer.
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as somebody who's very pro-energy and uh she's her french is is quite good and that's the one
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thing maybe albertans don't want to hear this but it's true you need a good command of french
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french language to be a willing candidate a good candidate and that's where people like pierre
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shine and and uh maryland glad you would shine um there are others they would have to brush up on
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that because sooner or later you have to debate in both official languages and you don't want a
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leader to be crucified in quebec you just don't we we need them we we've shown that we can win in
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quebec but you've got to have at least passable french in order to convince them and and steven
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harper certainly managed to do that so it's not a loss caused by any any stretch i think there
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there could be um there could be a pretty full field and it's going to be pretty exciting i think
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it's got to be done sooner than later though just because of the situation with the minority
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parliament and uh i think trudeau is is uh it's bound to do just about anything i mean the last
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the latest polls show that he's neck and neck with the ndp so they could trigger things they've got
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a balance of power now they could decide hey this is a perfect time it might be our only opportunity
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so we better be ready uh yeah and i mean even once you a new leader is in i mean it takes a
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little time for whoever that may be to establish themselves to set up a shadow cabinet hopefully
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get some profile uh even you know get some time in in parliament i mean it's difficult in a
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minority situation when you don't know when it happens so you you just can't afford to take your
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time i i'm gonna ask while i got you here and i mean plans are fluid are you considering you
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know jumping back into the political uh circle again yeah well i was lucky enough to have one
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caucus meeting after the election loss and i told caucus at the time i'm eager to take that seat
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back from the ndp um i think that uh it was a situation where a lot of things it was the perfect
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storm against us and i think that it's very winnable and i think this new the leadership
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race will inject a lot of excitement into things and uh i mean in 2019 i won by 26 percentage
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points so the conservatives are there we just have to find them and i think this race will inject a
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lot into uh of excitement into conservatives in this province and i don't it's conceivable
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that we could run we could win the whole province just just like they win every seat in saskatchewan
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yeah no and i'm looking forward to that and i'd like to see you back in there having that ndp
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thorn in there is just uh just hurts isn't albertan but you know that's how democracy goes and
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And leadership races, I mean, they can be a fantastic opportunity or, you know, for party building, for getting excitement, fundraising.
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If it's done right, you know, if it's not divisive, if it's not too personal, it can actually be a very good exercise in preparing that party.
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Because I think people have got to be getting tired of the Trudeau liberals.
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They just need the right leader they can embrace and they will go with the conservatives.
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Well, what's really interesting is you look at the U.S. right now, what's happening with Joe Biden.
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And he's roundly unpopular within one year and people are fed up with him.
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and the midterms they're going to kick they're going to kick butt and yet we've put up with
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justin trudeau the same kind of leader since 2015 a a leader who's out of touch with canadians who's
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nobody i mean the vast majority of people in canada don't like him so it's it's a it's a
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wide open opportunity it's just that we've we've got to get better as conservative we've got to get
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get the message out there we've got to be true to our our roots we've got to be we've got to we've
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got to be true and um and just campaign as conservatives not some kind of mixed bag messaging
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where people don't know where we're coming from it's got to be a straight uh message of of true
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conservatives i think most people here's an example i use um if you were to have a random
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poll of canadians and say you've got two choices prime minister for prime minister and only two
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choices david suzuki or don cherry where do you think they they vote oh yeah the support exists
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especially a rhetorical question i think on cherry for all his uh for all his uh grumpiness and his
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bad media uh publicity would out duel david suzuki and public's in the mind of public of the public
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And so that, I mean, I think Canadians, they're not naturally liberals.
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I think they're naturally small C conservatives with all those values that conservatives value, family, religion, private property rights, and balanced budgets.
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We just have to find those people and reignite their passion.
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Yeah, no, I think we can win without apologizing for being conservative.
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We just have to learn how to package it, and maybe we're going to have that opportunity soon.
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So it's good to hear you're still pounding the pavement there because it's still going to be a battleground in Edmonton when the opportunity comes up again.
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And it's important to make sure we have a good, solid candidate who's going to take that seat back.
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So it's good to hear. And I really appreciate your joining us today just to give an update as this develops.
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I mean, as I said, a crazy news time and trying to keep up with everything that's going on at once.
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So thank you again. And where can we keep up with what you're doing right now?
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You can find me on Facebook. You can find me at Kerry Diot on Instagram.
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I'm out there and I'd love to come back and talk some more.
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Let's hope that we have a really robust leadership and buy memberships and get involved.
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And let's get rid of Justin Trude on the Liberals.
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I hope you can come on again and talk to us all again soon.
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so yes uh for political weenies like me uh you know we've got a leadership race coming and i
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i love those things i know that they can be challenging and stuff like that but as i was
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saying with carrie and as carrie said these could be very productive important exercises and we we
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should look i guess critically at ourselves or conservatives are there i don't have a membership
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any longer but i cheer for teams and uh see what went wrong last time re-evaluate it and and make
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your decision going forward. You know, as, as Kerry said, these are winnable. It's been done
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before. Uh, Quebec has had large tracts of it go conservative before Alberta can go NDP free. We
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can do this. We can take that seat back in, in Edmonton and, uh, we'll watch as it goes. A lot
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of people, again, Pierre is the name that just keeps coming up. We'll see. He hasn't said himself,
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you know, if, if he's going to go for it, but he's certainly already the favorite before coming out
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the gate. So that's going to develop as it goes. Now, tomorrow, I'm going to have Renaud Broussard
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from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation in Quebec. And there are conservatives out there, there really
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are. And he's going to talk to me about how the vax tax, they backed off on it. You know, things
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again, pressure, bad ideas, they will go away. And that has happened. You know, the Premier of Quebec
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is not going to follow through on that tax, I call it a fine on unvaccinated people. And we're
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going to have Western Standard columnist David Makachuk back on. He talks on international
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issues and some other things. I know he stirred up our comment scroll on Facebook with his last
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column, but that's okay. We don't always have to agree. I like getting folks on so we can get all
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stirred up and talking about those sorts of things. So again, that reminder, you know,
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Now on a nice patriotic bent, even though I am, you know, something of an Alberta independence
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leading person, all the same, I'm not ashamed of Canada. I just want to change the system of it.
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And I think independence be the way to go there. I'm going to play a video of the national anthem
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with a number of images from, it's from, by the way, Meme the Left. I got to give credit where
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do meme the left on youtube they put it together and people take it where it is tongue in cheek
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there's some trucks uh moving around and there's the prime minister moving around it's not one of
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those threatening things it's just fun it's the anthem watch that video and we'll have our clothes
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and i will see you guys tomorrow morning at 11 30 a.m