Western Standard - LIVE - Triggered： Trudeau has lost control of Canada

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 Oh, I thought we were going to run the video.

00:00:39.440 Good morning. It's February 18th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. What a crazy day.

00:00:48.000 Well, we saw it coming. Ottawa, you know, the protesters there, they are, the police are moving

00:00:53.680 in on them and getting ready to, or starting to arrest them and move them out of there. We've

00:00:58.260 got some footage of that as it began, which we'll play momentarily here and frame the show up.

00:01:28.260 so yeah that frames up what we'll be covering today we'll be cutting in we're talking to some

00:01:39.740 people on the ground hopefully get some live updates from right out there we're watching

00:01:43.300 the streams we'll be bringing in information as it happens it's a pretty crazy scene though

00:01:48.500 thankfully so far remarkably peaceful all things considered when you've got a police action against

00:01:53.900 this many people out there right now so as a reminder this show is going to be live 11 30 a.m

00:01:59.140 mountain standard time monday to friday except for this monday unless news gets really big uh

00:02:04.380 it is family day so we won't be going uh comments are welcome keep them civil and keep them polite

00:02:09.620 though please especially in heated times like right now you know we want to be interactive but

00:02:13.860 we gotta we're in crazy times we've got to be good to each other i'm going to be talking later

00:02:18.980 with the interim leader of the maverick party jay hill as they've come right out and said it's time

00:02:23.560 for Western Independence. They've kind of walked back and forth on that line a little bit, so it'll

00:02:27.380 be interesting to see where they're landing on it. And the leader of the Canadian Independence

00:02:31.800 Party, Jacques Boudreaux, you don't hear a lot about him, or I mean the Libertarian Party of

00:02:36.380 Canada, but they are there. They've been there a long time. They're actually one of Canada's older

00:02:40.660 parties, and they've been around. And talk about a time when liberty has been challenged. There's

00:02:45.880 a gentleman named Cameron James. I'm hoping we'll pull in. He's in Ottawa on the ground, and if he

00:02:49.780 comes in. We'll pull him into the interview while we can. I'm just going to start with my thoughts

00:02:55.960 for the day. They're going to be short and we'll get to Dave because there's just so much news to

00:02:59.080 cover right now and it's so important at a time like this. So I mean what I want to go on about

00:03:04.500 is Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has lost control of the nation and as I'm speaking hundreds of

00:03:09.940 police members are marching upon peaceful demonstrators in Ottawa. We're seeing video

00:03:14.360 of heavy-duty tow trucks heading towards Parliament Hill with police escorts bringing them in.

00:03:20.020 I'm wondering if they were commandeered through force with Trudeau's invocation of the rebranded War Measures Act.

00:03:25.620 Meanwhile, though, we've had eco-terrorists in B.C. and they've chosen to violently attack a work site on the coastal gas link pipeline project.

00:03:33.660 Millions of dollars in damage were done as up to 20 eco-terrorists wielding axes threatened security in order to take over and damage heavy equipment on the site.

00:03:42.660 They dropped trees on the roads, lit fires and set traps in order to hinder any response from the police forces.

00:03:48.180 When the police did try to respond, they were attacked with smoke bombs, and one member was injured.

00:03:52.600 We're lucky that this eco-terrorist attack didn't actually kill somebody.

00:03:56.720 Legacy media has reported on it, but it's hardly made the headlines with them.

00:04:00.760 An eco-terrorism act like this should be making waves across the country, and it's hardly made a ripple.

00:04:07.080 What emboldened these terrorists to act so violently, and right now?

00:04:10.720 Is it the complete breakdown and lack of respect for the government? I say it is.

00:04:15.720 In drawing police resources from across the country to try and evict peaceful protesters in Ottawa,

00:04:20.260 Trudeau's left the other regions underserved by police, and they're vulnerable to extremists.

00:04:25.900 And in ignoring the escalating actions of extremists at that site for years,

00:04:29.380 or at least treating the extremists with kid gloves,

00:04:31.860 the government has invited these activists to up the ante and increase violence.

00:04:35.220 They have no respect for authorities or Canada as a whole.

00:04:38.400 We look forward to further extreme actions across the nation as extremists realize just how weak the leadership of this country is.

00:04:44.500 Trudeau is paralyzed with a mix of panic and vanity.

00:04:47.580 He won't back down or even negotiate with citizens while support for his government crumbles across the nation.

00:04:53.480 Parliament has been shut down despite being able to operate remotely for years due to the pandemic.

00:04:58.060 The real reason Parliament's been shut down is the Trudeau regime doesn't want to have to try and answer questions on their actions.

00:05:04.560 They're too weak to defend their move to invoke a form of martial law upon Canadians.

00:05:09.220 Rather than trying to lead, they have suspended civil rights and then tossed the job onto the

00:05:13.540 police and fled. They're cowering and hoping the problem resolves itself. Trudeau tweeted three

00:05:17.980 times since the police action began in Ottawa. You know what he tweeted about? The Olympics.

00:05:21.920 Remember, yeah, there's Olympics happening somewhere. Otherwise, he's nowhere to be seen.

00:05:26.220 Not only has Trudeau failed to manage this crisis well, he's directly responsible for causing it.

00:05:31.440 His provocative speech, his insults, his disrespect for a protest that, supported by hundreds of

00:05:36.680 thousands if not millions of Canadians has inflamed a situation beyond control and it never had to

00:05:40.840 happen. Whatever may happen this weekend, there's only one thing we can safely conclude. Justin

00:05:45.280 Trudeau has lost control of the country. He's done irreparable damage to national unity and he will

00:05:50.160 go down in history as one of, if not, the most inept and destructive prime minister in Canadian 0.82

00:05:55.800 history. And it all could have been avoided with good leadership. We're going to see none of that

00:05:59.940 though, until we have new leadership. Until then, Canada is broken. Now, let's bring our news

00:06:06.940 editor, Dave Naylor, who is just listening to 100 feeds and typing and phoning and doing everything

00:06:11.080 he can to watch this madness as it unfolds in Ottawa. How are you doing, Dave? I'm doing okay,

00:06:17.120 Corey. I'm glad the Prime Minister is enjoying the Olympics. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's important to,

00:06:23.740 you can tell that's what the nation really wants to hear about right now. They're not concerned

00:06:26.760 about the uh you know massive uh tiananmen square like undertaking in ottawa right now

00:06:31.480 no the stunning really stunning scenes from ottawa this morning corey which i would suggest are

00:06:37.640 unprecedented in canadian history it started with uh hundreds of police marching two by two uh

00:06:45.560 towards the uh towards the demonstrators the the police line went on as far as the eye could see

00:06:51.480 They finally came face to face and basically pushing and shoving emerged.

00:06:59.680 People were arrested.

00:07:01.420 People were taken to the ground.

00:07:03.380 Other people just lay on the ground and were carried away by the officers.

00:07:09.460 They were backed up by other officers in complete camouflage gear with automatic weapons.

00:07:15.880 police or paramedics were in the line ready to treat injured people one of the disturbing things

00:07:23.380 this morning though cory was the use of children ottawa police said that the the protesters had

00:07:30.080 placed children in harm's way between the police and the protesters and tv footage you could clearly

00:07:37.020 see children right at the front line some of them have been removed and taken to a place of

00:07:43.240 safety. There's basically an ongoing standoff now. Police move forward a couple feet at a time.

00:07:52.840 The protesters back up and consolidate. You can hear their horns blaring. They're singing

00:07:58.940 O Canada. Really, really dramatic scenes. Police with automatic weapons are using the

00:08:06.840 the butts of their guns to smash into vehicles, including like mobile homes and trailers.

00:08:17.480 Protesters are shouting, hold the line, hold the line. Pat King, one of the main organizers,

00:08:24.060 has been arrested. And interestingly, there appears to be a concerted campaign to flood

00:08:30.660 the city's 9-1-1 system with fake calls, which is screwing up the plan. So dramatic scene there,

00:08:40.100 all being completely ignored by the Prime Minister as he watches the Olympics.

00:08:46.180 The other big story you mentioned, Corey was at a horrible attack on the Coastal Link pipelines.

00:08:53.220 Reid Small, who had this story up almost first yesterday, is on the job again today.

00:08:59.220 He's collecting all sorts of reaction from politicians and the company and RCMP.

00:09:06.780 So we'll have a good follow-up to that shortly.

00:09:11.520 My favourite story of the day is actually out of Red Deer, and it's about a quite ugly dog.

00:09:18.540 His name is Brody, and he's so ugly, he's cute.

00:09:22.900 He's got facial deformities where his eyes look in one way 0.98

00:09:26.580 and his tongue is hanging out the side of his mouth.

00:09:29.140 Well, anyways, he's become an Internet star

00:09:32.020 with literally tens of thousands of followers.

00:09:35.520 And what somebody spotted, basically, is Doggy Doppelganger down in Texas.

00:09:43.320 So they've arranged for the dogs to be reunited

00:09:45.740 and they can spend the rest of their days staring at each other,

00:09:48.960 wondering uh how did we get this ugly this so ugly so that's a just a fun story to take

00:09:56.000 everybody's mind off things that's uh that's up there now uh columnist dave makachuk says

00:10:02.040 the the last few days of has made us questions whether we should stay in the country uh or not

00:10:09.240 um lots of uh news breaking corey will keep on top of it uh if need be if things uh get

00:10:17.400 completely out of control i'll i'll fill you in and i'll be happy to bring our viewers up to date

00:10:24.280 great well thank you dave i know you're very busy in there and i appreciate that

00:10:28.120 uh we'll check in with you again if anything breaks and uh i'll let you back to it thanks

00:10:33.480 gory all right so there's that reminder you don't go to westernstandardonline.com to see

00:10:38.440 these stories as they come out read small was breaking stuff last night as dave said we were

00:10:42.600 the first on the the news scene i guess you could say to point out that holy cow we've had a massive

00:10:47.560 eco-terrorist action happening in northern british columbia right now dave's writing on things as

00:10:52.600 they break and there's more there you know there are things as dave said you will put some stories

00:10:56.360 on just uh you know we do need a break from all of the the angry and violent stuff going on so

00:11:02.440 even stories about things like a a a cutely ugly dog as a person who's owned and owns bulldogs hey

00:11:08.440 I understand how sometimes the uglier a dog is, the cuter it can be in some ways. So be sure to

00:11:14.100 go online and watch that. And I'm watching it as it unfolds. You know, I've got that CBC stream and

00:11:19.740 we'll pull that up as we go because as taxpayers, we get to pay for all that content anyway. So

00:11:24.520 we will be sharing that with you and watching. As you can see there, as Nico's brought up,

00:11:29.780 this is live. Protesters are sort of standing down police. It's again, remarkably peaceful,

00:11:36.480 though you know when you consider this many usually when you see an action like this we see

00:11:40.140 tear gas we see uh people being tackled and hitting with truncheons or we see people throwing things

00:11:45.840 at police and this is the calmest large protest uh enforcement i guess you could say i've ever

00:11:52.420 seen in my life uh again it shows it gets to the root just how peaceful these protesters are and

00:11:57.500 were though i mean this is not a crazy thing it does not justify trudeau's invocation of the

00:12:03.840 Emergencies Act, you know, that this stepping on our civil rights, this, if, you know, it's

00:12:09.000 questionable and we can go on whether police should have acted or not at all. But the bottom

00:12:12.800 line is they had the ability, they had the laws, they didn't need to invoke that act. And I think

00:12:17.320 that's why he's hiding from parliament right now. And yes, I saw some of that in a couple of spots

00:12:23.380 too. And for the vast majority, I even heard a CBC reporter talking about it. There are very,

00:12:27.760 very few children there, but there were some and they were seen on TV. I, you know, just

00:12:32.780 be responsible parents, guys. I know it's not fair. I know you've been peaceful. I know

00:12:38.840 it's been peaceful all the way up to date, but get the kids out of there. We don't know what's

00:12:43.520 going to happen now that people could stampede as somebody, Kim is messaging or commenting

00:12:48.680 their tear gas is coming. Cops have masks on. I saw other reports that, yeah, there are snipers

00:12:54.480 up in the buildings in case things go terribly wrong. I think some of them are also just observers

00:12:58.540 because they can report down to police on what's going on. Get the kids out though. Just get them

00:13:03.140 out of there. There were even people talking about, you know, the Ottawa police were talking

00:13:07.020 about how they're going to seize dogs if they see them out there. Same thing. I like dogs. If you're

00:13:11.040 an adult and you want to go and stand in the protest, push back, hold your ground, perhaps be

00:13:16.240 arrested. Of course, that's your right. That's what this is all about. But yeah, there's some

00:13:20.580 footage there of a kid you know just get the kids out it could be a dangerous circumstance it's time

00:13:25.680 for them to go it's just not the place to be we can go into this afterwards as somebody said

00:13:31.400 Canada is not a safe place to live it is unfortunate that it's not safe down there at that

00:13:36.740 protest right now and it's not safe for kids it's not responsible to have those children down there

00:13:42.140 take them out and as the police have said child protective authorities will take those kids

00:13:47.780 if they come in and spot them there.

00:13:51.220 So let's just save that whole horrible thing.

00:13:53.420 You can still protest.

00:13:54.300 You can do all sorts of things.

00:13:55.580 And I am honestly thrilled

00:13:58.320 with how they've been standing up for themselves

00:14:00.760 and what's going on there.

00:14:02.740 And, you know, let's keep it peaceful,

00:14:04.640 but get the kids out of there, guys.

00:14:07.520 If anything, it's just giving them more excuses to move in

00:14:10.520 because they'll claim that children were being endangered.

00:14:13.160 And to be totally bluntly honest,

00:14:15.200 if you're at that now

00:14:16.360 when you've got a police movement coming in on you and you have little children with you you are

00:14:21.120 endangering your kids please don't do that take them out of there find somebody else to watch them

00:14:26.680 and then come back to the protest or do whatever you have to but it's just not the place for them

00:14:30.400 now and again the vast majority of people don't have them there that's worth noting as I said

00:14:35.620 even a CBC our state broadcaster commenter was saying very few but even a few kids are too many

00:14:42.120 you know, because this so far has been remarkably peaceful. And let's keep it that way. You know,

00:14:50.020 I don't want to be reporting on injuries. As we saw this moving and, you know, we keep bringing

00:14:54.780 this live footage up and showing. I mean, it's a standoff and it's going slowly. The police keep

00:14:59.800 kind of slowly moving in. They're doing what's called kettling. And that means, and I've been

00:15:04.580 to protests where they do that before. They don't have enough forces to catch and arrest or stop

00:15:09.620 everybody. So what they do is sort of move around and you take a chunk of the protesters and you

00:15:13.760 cut them all off from all the rest of them. And then you can grab them, arrest them, cart them

00:15:18.700 out of there, and then move in. It's like the old saying, how do you take down an elephant? How do

00:15:22.920 you eat an elephant? You do it one bite at a time. And that's what the police are doing now.

00:15:27.300 But they got a heck of a task ahead of them because there is a massive amount of protesters

00:15:32.940 there. These resources are limited. And the weekend is coming and more people are coming

00:15:38.340 out there to support the protesters. So we'll see if they manage to reduce the numbers down there

00:15:45.160 quickly enough, peacefully enough to be able to actually stop this protest or manage to shut it

00:15:54.760 down. I mean, these people are very determined. They don't want to leave. We're watching

00:15:59.220 unfortunate history being made right now. We really are. We're seeing Canadian civil rights

00:16:05.700 being stepped on in a way we've never seen in our adult lives. Most of us, at least anyways,

00:16:10.120 you know, again, the last time an act like this was invoked was 1950 or 1950, 1970. I was going

00:16:17.420 to say, because I'm 50 and I'm not old enough to have lived when this happened last time.

00:16:22.520 And it just doesn't merit it. As we see now, I mean, I'm sure the CBC, CTV, if they could find

00:16:29.200 evidence of protesters being violent, being out of control, trying to justify their narrative of

00:16:33.840 this movement of this pushback these restrictions being wrong they would happily cover it but they

00:16:38.660 aren't finding it they aren't seeing it because these are reasonable people uh who have been just

00:16:43.740 standing up for themselves and their rights like i said my only other concern is the people have

00:16:47.840 chosen to keep their children down there at this time come on guys get out get out now uh it's

00:16:52.500 wrong the police shouldn't move in they shouldn't uh tear gas you but they probably will and your

00:16:59.460 kid's my kid somebody else putting out yes the logo is cbc on there guys we don't have at this

00:17:04.340 point somebody on the ground we might pull somebody in later on but we do have live footage

00:17:08.500 from there which is important we want to see what's happening and if it's coming from the

00:17:11.080 state broadcaster that means we've already paid for that footage as taxpayers so we are going to

00:17:16.240 use it and as you can see though there's no sound so you don't have to listen to rosie barton and

00:17:20.440 those goofy talking heads from the state broadcaster there we'll talk about it but you'll get the

00:17:24.760 footage from there and if we get to the direct feed from cameron and some of the others who are

00:17:28.460 on the ground out there in Ottawa.

00:17:29.820 We will cut in on it.

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00:18:41.880 let's bring Jacques in here. And it's been a while. I talked to Jacques back in the election

00:18:46.600 there a while back and well, we're into some times where liberty is more challenging than ever. So

00:18:51.840 thanks for joining me today, Jacques. Thank you. Glad to be back.

00:18:55.840 Yeah. So, I mean, the Libertarian Party of Canada, and I mentioned that a bit in the earlier part of the show, like it's one of the oldest federal parties in Canada. It actually has a very long history. You know, it's never been a big contender at any point in the House of Commons, but they've always been there. They've always run campaigns. They've always kept liberty as their main focus. And people often kind of forget that you're there sometimes, which at a time like right now, liberty, again, is more threatened than we've ever seen.

00:19:21.740 Well, I hate to, in a way, play politics with all this, but the silver lining is that people are coming to us.

00:19:33.780 I got an email the other day from someone telling me that, like many Canadians, he was jumping back and forth between the liberals and the conservatives in terms of support.

00:19:43.380 And he said, I'm done. I am now a libertarian.

00:19:47.180 So we'll see what happens.

00:19:48.520 Well, yeah, I mean, people are examining the reach and scope of government in ways that

00:19:55.240 they've never really looked at before. I mean, this is sort of, the libertarians have always

00:19:59.260 been the canary in the coal mine and trying to tell people, you know, we're at risk of losing

00:20:03.440 some of our individual rights and our freedoms right now, and we've got to speak up or it could

00:20:07.620 be taken. Well, now they're being taken and people are realizing that, wow, the libertarian

00:20:11.040 party was right all along. Well, precisely. You know, I mean, we've been warning people

00:20:17.180 about this and you know let's face it there are a lot of people who don't like to to to hear me

00:20:25.940 or or other freedom loving people who say that um we are not as free as we used to be i mean when

00:20:33.200 when the average household in canada pays something like uh i think it's 42 percent last time i looked

00:20:42.240 of their income and taxes and i'm talking all income all taxes you know income and what

00:20:47.920 i'm gonna i'm so sorry i've got to break in on you really quickly as i warned kind of earlier

00:20:53.560 we've got a guy on the ground in ottawa we're going to come back to you okay and hold that

00:20:57.960 thought we'll pull you back in i don't want to i feel so terribly rude but it's very important

00:21:01.020 to stay live as this breaks i understand all right thank you so we're going to pull cameron

00:21:05.180 james in he's from indy news now uh he's on the ground in ottawa hi cameron how's it going out

00:21:09.800 It's pretty good. We just got in. The police didn't give us much in the way of scuff or

00:21:17.560 guff or anything. They just said it would be difficult to park. It wasn't too bad. So

00:21:22.260 we're here just coming on to Wellington. Apparently they've got the riot gear cops out with the

00:21:27.840 helmets and the tear gas. We were seeing them on one of our buddy's live streams.

00:21:31.860 Still eating snacks though. That's awesome. Down in the main sort of area by the hill

00:21:36.000 there's all sorts of people just standing and the spirits seem good the um there's definitely

00:21:45.220 not like a huge tension there's not a whole lot of aggression the protesters are all peaceful

00:21:50.820 still and i think the police are just looking to unrest unruly people is what we've sort of got

00:21:57.900 uh right now they uh arrested a couple live streamers which isn't exactly journalism but

00:22:04.900 is kind of sort of against the threshold of it uh zod on youtube and then malcolm

00:22:11.060 has a stream on tick tock that he got busted as well so you guys see here the trucks are still

00:22:17.460 undisturbed spark street was empty and uh there's a number of people down here on the hill standing

00:22:24.820 around we walked past some truckers who were discussing logistics and they didn't want um

00:22:30.820 they didn't want to share any of that understandably so they've been pretty tight

00:22:35.060 about that as well so we're just making our way down we're right outside the parliament

00:22:44.340 but so far everything looks pretty good it might just be sort of a photo op so that they can show

00:22:48.980 that they're doing something is a bit of the vibe we're getting something that's interesting i mean

00:22:55.540 i would have thought and maybe it's just due to the lack of resources they would have stopped

00:22:58.580 anybody more from coming in because they would fear more protesters coming to bolster the numbers

00:23:03.600 but uh you you had no hindrance getting in there i mean you identified as media i imagine but but

00:23:08.660 still you would think they'd be trying to kind of cork the bottle right now yeah they we've heard

00:23:13.560 stories about them kind of blocking off media but people on foot are still able to so someone

00:23:19.220 suggested we park and then walk and we were able to get pretty close um we were on elgin i think

00:23:25.240 and we were able to walk in pretty easily so um not huge disruption there people can still walk

00:23:32.040 in but they're stopping vehicles mostly from coming in okay and it's good to see i mean you're

00:23:37.460 reporting more of what we've been seeing so far i mean it's been peaceful as you said that they're

00:23:41.200 not moving in that much in force they started by arresting a few folks but now it seems to be just

00:23:45.740 more of kind of standing and staring at each other for the time being yeah the even the arrests that

00:23:51.080 went down with Tamara Litch and Chris Barber. They also arrested one of the main guys who

00:24:00.300 was sitting in the middle, Black Buffalo. He had his car in the middle there. And I 0.96

00:24:05.300 don't know exactly what went on. We've got a clip of the arrest, but they sort of picked

00:24:09.560 him up and hauled him off. And aside from that, they haven't really been arresting anyone

00:24:13.600 outside of, hey guys, outside of, say, some of the homeless people who are having some

00:24:20.100 mental health problems. So it's not terrible. They're not just arresting everyone. They've

00:24:27.500 got the equipment out and it might just be a show or a flex. So we're going to go over

00:24:32.980 and see how close we can get to all of that. Great. Well, if you're a few minutes away,

00:24:37.460 maybe I'll let you carry on walking. Can you come back and check in with us in a little

00:24:41.240 bit here again while you're out there? I'll stick here in the backstage and just give

00:24:48.140 a shout when you're ready sure yeah and just give a wave if anything you know uh worth comes out and

00:24:53.900 plus uh you're with indie news now just to remind people and you've been doing a documentary on this

00:24:57.420 right yeah we started off doing a documentary uh we uh wanted to kind of get all the sides

00:25:02.940 the citizens here who are upset we've interviewed some of them and um lots of different the amount

00:25:09.180 of different people here and the diversity is pretty incredible so we were trying to get all

00:25:12.540 the perspectives and all the little stories so we were doing a documentary and then we decided we

00:25:17.500 should get out some live media for people as well because there's a lot of value there

00:25:23.100 we're uh we're right here in the in the hill in the middle and they still got the stage up

00:25:30.060 and there's a maybe about a hundred people there great well i'll let you get settled

00:25:34.700 in and see what you can and i'll pull you back into the feed i really appreciate this we need

00:25:37.980 to know from out west what's happening out there thank you very much see you soon we'll talk soon

00:25:42.780 again that cameron okay let's bring uh jock back in there uh after i've so rudely interrupted but

00:25:49.420 that's the nature of being a live uh news stream of course we we take things as they break and

00:25:54.220 having uh cameron on the ground out there was really important so sorry again about that jock

00:25:58.620 you were talking about uh again our incremental loss of liberty right now yeah listen just to

00:26:04.300 finish my point and um yeah last time i looked uh the canadian typical canadian household uh spends

00:26:14.460 uh 42 of their income in all forms of taxation so that's income tax sales tax land transfer tax

00:26:21.820 etc etc it used to be 33 in the 1960s so i'm just you know putting that out that the less money you

00:26:29.820 get to keep the less free you are but there's all kinds of other elements as well regulations

00:26:36.380 all kinds of demands all kinds of things that make it more difficult to start a business

00:26:41.420 the list goes on and on and we've been warning about this you know as you pointed out for decades

00:26:47.420 i think people are finally understanding uh where we're coming from so i mean i imagine it's a safe

00:26:53.580 leap to believe that the libertarian party of canada is not supporting the invocation of the

00:26:58.700 Emergency Measures Act to crack down on people demonstrating at this time?

00:27:03.260 No, we don't. In fact, I'm livid. Many of my party members are livid as well. In fact,

00:27:12.060 we just sent out this morning a joint letter co-written with my colleagues at the BC Libertarian

00:27:18.540 Party and the Ontario Libertarian Party condemning that and a couple of other things as well.

00:27:24.620 yeah so uh did you guys run candidates in the last election last fall i i believe you had some

00:27:31.080 didn't you yeah unfortunately we only have 13 which is i mean that's one of the things that

00:27:37.500 i want to do i i want to have a lot more candidates because we are not a think tank

00:27:44.240 we are a political party so we exist to give people a voice and i heard from way too many people

00:27:50.520 you know via email and other means to say that they've gone to the booth wanting to vote for

00:27:58.040 the libertarian candidate and couldn't find one that is you know it's simply not acceptable

00:28:03.900 um so again we we want to give people a voice and that's one of the things i'm working on right now

00:28:10.580 yeah well there is a need and a demand for it i ran for the libertarian party back in

00:28:14.920 i believe it was 2015 election and i mean i was under no illusions at that time i wasn't going

00:28:19.380 to unseat the incumbent or anything like that but a lot of people when I went to the doors were

00:28:22.940 happy say oh I have got that option I have it there at least I could attend some forums and

00:28:27.420 I put questions to the incumbent that he didn't want to answer I talked about supply management

00:28:31.560 and things like that I just like to stress that importance to people that just because a party

00:28:35.700 is smaller or up and coming doesn't mean they're not worth supporting I mean that it's important

00:28:39.240 to have these parties out there getting that perspective well absolutely and you know one of

00:28:44.400 things i stress to people when i try to to get them to um to run is that being able to participate

00:28:52.960 in debates alone is a step forward because i certainly find myself putting forward uh viewpoints

00:29:01.360 that most people have never heard of before but quite often you know the reaction is a positive

00:29:07.280 one yeah so the the people's party of canada sort of captured a degree of the the libertarian

00:29:13.920 minded people in the last election and they're still kind of out there have you guys had much

00:29:18.160 communication with them or are you just kind of staying distinctly apart from them right now

00:29:23.760 uh well early on when max left the conservatives there was certainly a lot of talk about possibly

00:29:32.720 doing something i mean this was before he created bpc um i mean max has read all the

00:29:41.120 the right libertarian literature he often quotes hayek for example which is good but in the end

00:29:49.440 he's simply not a libertarian i mean i mean i would prefer to see a ppc government than

00:29:58.560 all the alternatives except for ourselves of course but you know he doesn't i think he still

00:30:06.080 likes fairly large governments i mean we have a lot in common i mean the supply management is

00:30:10.640 something that he wants to dismantle so do we um but again he from my perspective he simply does

00:30:17.520 not go far enough okay well and that's one thing with the libertarian party is always stay pretty

00:30:22.320 pure and true to the roots anyways of the philosophy of liberty and libertarianism in

00:30:27.440 general i mean a lot of people divide there's left libertarian right libertarian it's been

00:30:30.720 one of the challenges though it's kind of herding cats and getting people to come together and agree

00:30:35.120 on what what a enough liberty-minded view is to stay in one room i know that was a challenge for

00:30:40.080 tim before you and i'm certain it still is for you right now how's that been going in kind of uh

00:30:44.880 gaining a unity of movement you know i haven't found uh i mean i know that it exists i mean i

00:30:53.280 follow what goes on in the us and i know that there's a there's left libertarians and right

00:30:58.800 libertarians and and the like so i i know it's a it's a fact of life but i have not in the few

00:31:04.880 months that i've been leader it has not been uh at the forefront i mean certainly at the board

00:31:11.920 we all seem to be like-minded um so hopefully it it's a positive sign you know we shall see

00:31:21.440 you know the interesting thing about libertarianism is being about freedom and i'm convinced

00:31:27.200 of this is that we we cannot lose the moral battle associated with freedom because when you give

00:31:35.360 people freedom they can then decide to um set themselves up in um in whatever manner they choose

00:31:46.400 like i think for example you know in the uk in um see the late 1800s there were all kinds of um

00:31:57.200 organizations, I mean, they were called mutual aid societies, where a neighborhood,

00:32:04.600 people would get together, they, of their own volition, right, none of this was

00:32:09.540 through coercion, would give a small contribution on a monthly basis to a bunch of people that they

00:32:18.520 elected to manage these funds. And one of the things they did was to go to, to go and help

00:32:26.180 members of the community who were under duress i mean another misconception of libertarianism is

00:32:33.500 that you know it's all um dog eat dog and and look after yourself type thing but but it's not true

00:32:40.620 we believe in charity and helping each other as much as the next people but we just don't believe

00:32:47.300 that it can be accomplished through coercive methods so when when you can choose to you know

00:32:55.160 belong to whatever group that you want, it's a far better one than being compelled at gunpoint

00:33:02.060 to turn your money over for, you know, quite often all kinds of things that have nothing to do with

00:33:08.460 helping other people. Absolutely. I mean, a lot of people are libertarians. They just don't know

00:33:13.440 it yet, actually. And if they'd look out, they'd realize that there's somebody who represents them.

00:33:17.120 So we got to get back to our breaking coverage on things. But how will people track down the

00:33:21.940 libertarian party and learn more about it and and you know get involved well libertarian.ca

00:33:27.420 is their website there are links there to to donate to um i mean they can certainly reach

00:33:34.760 out to me if they would like to volunteer um this is something else i'm trying to ramp up

00:33:39.680 significantly is to get more volunteers because we are a small party we don't have a lot of funds

00:33:45.160 so we depend very much on on volunteers to get things done and and if people want to run i mean

00:33:53.960 if they heard my message today in terms of you know there's all kinds of stuff that they don't

00:33:58.680 really have to do if if they're if they want to be a paper candidate at this point we will take it

00:34:05.000 right so it's it's simply meeting election canada's minimum standards in order to be able to run and

00:34:10.440 then they can let their name stand great well thank you very much for joining me on this crazy

00:34:15.320 busy news day jock at libertarian.ca it's very important to keep standing up for our liberties

00:34:20.280 and i hope we can have a more extended conversation in the future when we're not quite as uh pressed

00:34:24.840 up on on such breaking news okay thank you again great thanks again jock so yes libertarian.ca

00:34:31.000 uh they'll stand up for you so let's bring cameron back in he's been walking around i can see the

00:34:35.400 frost coming from his mouth it looks pretty chilly out there how are things looking you're

00:34:39.160 in the middle of the protest yeah we're here Sussex and Wellington and they've

00:34:46.120 got as you can see here a number of the police in the riot gear they've got the

00:34:53.320 tear gas at the ready they're looking for looking pretty calm everyone's

00:34:57.460 pretty calm all together so so that's pretty good there's another line down

00:35:03.160 the way that I don't think they're gonna let us get to they're holding the line

00:35:07.880 pretty hard here and everyone's spirits still seem pretty good i don't think people are intimidated

00:35:15.960 um and the uh all of the officers we're giving them nods and saying hi and you know they're

00:35:21.320 giving nods and saying hi back so you know obviously respect our police officers so

00:35:27.160 yeah well it's always good not to see violence this has just been so striking throughout this

00:35:30.840 i noticed i could see you in the background uh folks were hugging you you know the the atmosphere

00:35:35.000 in general with this and the other protests i went to even out here it's just i've never been

00:35:39.160 to protests that have been so congenial before yeah and uh a lot of the old protest veterans

00:35:46.120 we've been uh talking to say this is peaceful peaceful polite protests they've ever been to

00:35:52.600 and on top on top of that you guys are talking about sort of a libertarian movement

00:35:58.120 and there being sort of people all over the place one of the things that's here

00:36:02.600 is a sense of unity without uniformity and a sense of valuing freedom and liberty and wanting to

00:36:11.440 bridge the political divides that have been sort of fueled by the mainstream media and kind of

00:36:18.020 created this situation is what a lot of people say so there is a lot of unity there and perhaps

00:36:23.760 the libertarian front might see unity come out of this as well yeah and this has been a very

00:36:31.100 decentralized sort of thing you know i mean the police did what they typically would in a protest

00:36:36.540 and arrested organizers but i don't think it's had that much impact because this was never really a

00:36:40.540 well-organized centrally run sort of thing you've just taken the people you see the most out but

00:36:46.380 it's individuals are making their choices on this for the most part yeah definitely and um i can't

00:36:52.220 speak to the diverse and decentralized it's it's it's been in terms of everyone showing up and

00:37:01.820 saying what what do you need help with and people just jump on whatever needs to be done helping out

00:37:07.020 the homeless making sure everyone's warm and looked after so in terms of it being decentralized

00:37:14.060 i think that's one of the strongest points of this protest and the media is trying to make it out

00:37:18.140 like these um leaders are centralized forces and there's so many branches that you know that's

00:37:25.260 obviously not true yeah well i'm seeing some commenters discussion it sounds like some groups

00:37:29.880 might be considering uh or individuals they you know talking about leaving the protest and think

00:37:34.300 they've done enough uh others are digging their heels in like is your atmosphere in general does

00:37:38.460 it look like people still plan on being there to stay at this point um not only is the general

00:37:44.200 sentiment and we saw them sort of strategizing so we won't speak to what we saw there um the general

00:37:50.280 sentiment among all truckers so far is that they want to hold the line the protesters that are here

00:37:55.640 say that they want to be here for freedom for the kids for the future for our vets

00:37:59.800 in general and i know uh personally we've heard from a lot of people who are still saying they're

00:38:06.280 going to be coming down in the near future today and tomorrow yeah well that's what i'm wondering

00:38:12.200 is I think I mean I would have thought when the police moved they would have moved a little faster

00:38:16.020 and harder almost I'm glad they haven't uh but you'd think they'd almost want to do a move to

00:38:20.040 try and clear out the whole protest before the weekend hits because I got a feeling a whole lot

00:38:23.180 more people might be showing up to support now and this couldn't might outdo their resources

00:38:28.020 yeah I mean a lot of the police they don't want it's peaceful protesters so they don't really want

00:38:34.620 to engage and they don't have any real valid reason to engage and the past couple the past

00:38:40.020 the police presence in the evening has been minimal minimal and they've been sort of hanging

00:38:46.060 back and not involved in much other than any slight disturbances so I think that a lot of

00:38:54.680 this has to do with sort of showing that they're doing something because they're getting a lot of

00:38:58.420 pressure and they just needed the photo op a lot of the police sort of situations that we

00:39:02.900 encountered and we actually had a video on it seemed to be sort of staged photo op type things

00:39:08.040 where they just got out and were trying to show

00:39:11.620 that they had the situation under control.

00:39:14.860 I mean, the situation is under control,

00:39:16.860 so in that regard, they try to hype it up and say,

00:39:20.300 it's violent, and there's all these people.

00:39:22.340 Most of the violence we've seen has been towards the truckers,

00:39:25.060 slash tires, aggression from counter-protesters.

00:39:28.840 There was even a group of counter-protesters

00:39:31.200 that managed somehow to intercept,

00:39:33.580 and we're doing a video on this today.

00:39:35.400 They managed to intercept a convoy coming from Cornwall, and it was a private group,

00:39:41.600 so they were wondering how they got that information, how 200 counter-protesters were able to be there

00:39:46.660 with the mainstream media and the police at the ready.

00:39:48.820 It was kind of strange.

00:39:49.740 So it seems like that's maybe more of their tactic, is just sort of showing people that they are doing things,

00:39:56.620 but they're not a lot because there's not much to do.

00:39:59.660 yeah and uh just to follow further on that you're with indie news now

00:40:05.860 and uh where are your videos going up so people can watch as you said you were shooting some

00:40:11.340 videos we um so we've got a youtube channel indie news now that we're getting a lot of videos up

00:40:17.860 a lot of the um live coverage we've been doing has been on tiktok indie news now we've doing

00:40:22.620 live streams and updates on a lot of the um specific interactions that are going on trying

00:40:28.580 to get a little bit more of the nuanced details instead of covering the sort of main things that

00:40:33.480 are happening while also doing a little bit of commentary on things like the Emergency Act and

00:40:38.200 what it means in general. So the news now on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter.

00:40:45.480 Yeah, and I am seeing from a commenter saying that in other streams, they're showing some areas are

00:40:49.600 a little more volatile and there's arrests happening right now. That's part of it. This

00:40:53.300 is spread out over quite a wide area. It's sort of little pockets of protest rather than just

00:40:58.340 one central spot, isn't it? Yeah, that started the first day that I was here. Everyone was kind

00:41:06.200 of in awe and centralized. And as of the second day and the third day, it just got more and more

00:41:11.600 spread out. They shut off the they shut down the Confederation Park area. And there was a huge

00:41:17.860 gathering there. And it's actually where the native groups were. So it was interesting that

00:41:21.960 got shut down but there's yeah there's there's little pockets of people usually three or four

00:41:30.040 different dances 50 50 plus barbecues just cooking food and handing it out to people

00:41:37.080 um and uh it's not just on the hill it's sort of very very spread out um of course it's cold so

00:41:43.800 people also come in and out too yeah how have you been received i i know uh mainstream media

00:41:49.480 is not the most welcome these days down in these protests

00:41:52.680 and these gatherings.

00:41:54.160 As independent media, are people typically being all right

00:41:57.020 with you down there?

00:41:59.560 We've been received very well.

00:42:01.640 We've gotten a lot of support, people sending us over videos

00:42:05.140 and footage that they were able to get.

00:42:08.140 And some people are a little hesitant to jump on camera

00:42:10.620 for some of the interviews, but I'd say 80% to 90% of them

00:42:13.500 really want to speak and be heard and also to have a channel

00:42:17.760 where that's not going to be perverted.

00:42:19.480 So we were able to get into one of the conferences, one of the branches with Vince and some of the ex-police officers and veterans were running.

00:42:30.480 And they saw that it was us and they said, oh, we know you guys, you're going to report it well, come on in.

00:42:34.600 And New York Times was there and they didn't answer any questions, but we got an interview with Vince that we're going to post up as well.

00:42:41.280 Great. Well, we're in some great times where we can bypass those gatekeepers of information with the mainstream

00:42:45.840 and just get unfettered straight coverage to them as you've been doing.

00:42:51.280 And as somebody else, just a commenter mentioning, you know,

00:42:53.700 watch out that apparently cops are not thrilled with all the streamers out there,

00:42:57.700 so you might have issues.

00:42:59.400 But as you said, so far they've been civil, so that's a good sign.

00:43:03.400 So maybe I'll let you carry on with your work down there.

00:43:08.920 If you're up for it a little later in the show,

00:43:10.660 I'd love to pull you in to get another update and see how it's going there.

00:43:14.380 Sure thing.

00:43:15.020 I'll keep my headphones on here and listen in.

00:43:17.180 And if anything comes up, I'll flag you down.

00:43:19.380 But if you want to give me a shout out, I'll be here.

00:43:21.920 Excellent.

00:43:22.380 I really appreciate this, as do our viewers.

00:43:24.740 We're really wondering what's going on out there.

00:43:26.080 We don't want to have to rely on CBC for it.

00:43:28.740 Exactly.

00:43:29.240 Thanks so much, Corey.

00:43:30.220 All right.

00:43:30.520 Thanks.

00:43:30.760 See you in a while, Cameron.

00:43:32.660 So that reminder, that's Cameron James.

00:43:34.160 He's on the ground with Indy News Now.

00:43:36.340 You know, we do have so many great independent media outlets going out there.

00:43:40.720 I know Andrew Lawton's out there with True North.

00:43:43.240 uh rebel of course is always out that way we've had people out and about at protests but being

00:43:48.360 the western standard we most of our resources are out here you know we had somebody embedded

00:43:52.760 down in the coots protest of course for for over a week and some and we covered things as they broke

00:43:58.280 so we're getting the news as quickly as we can on what's happening out there in ottawa

00:44:04.440 and it's so unique you know it's it's uh i keep watching the ctv or cbc stream off to the side

00:44:10.600 here it's where i keep turning my head it sounds similar to what cameron's been reporting on

00:44:16.120 large police presence they're holding lines uh almost though it's more posing than action you

00:44:21.080 know we're not seeing them stepping in or intervening they began the entire action by

00:44:28.200 coming straight in they seem to be coming in hot and arrested a few people and uh we saw

00:44:33.640 some footage a while back with a windows being smashed out of a suv so they could take the

00:44:38.360 the driver out of it and I did see some footage of it again of a family actually it's like they

00:44:43.140 were leaving the protest a number of them and they had some kids so that's good you know they

00:44:47.540 got out of the way but as it stands now it seems more like a standoff and as I was saying with

00:44:54.520 Cameron we don't know what's going to happen we've never seen anything like this before I think

00:44:59.260 that's a picture of Tamara Leach there and she got arrested yesterday one of our commenters said

00:45:03.300 I think there's a bail hearing for them this afternoon.

00:45:06.900 And I imagine Dictor is with her and whatever other leaders or organizers.

00:45:11.700 That's, you know, the term that has to be used for this is organizers, because there isn't really a leader.

00:45:15.260 There's not a central person.

00:45:17.200 There's been a lot of, you know, prominent people who stand out, like Tamara and some of the others.

00:45:21.300 But this is a bunch of different groups and individuals acting.

00:45:26.520 And that makes it very difficult for the people who want to break these protests down to take care of it.

00:45:32.200 I mean, where can you target?

00:45:33.160 How do you stop it? Some people might want to leave. Some might want to stay. They're doing what they can, but it doesn't seem to be working out very well. And my thoughts, I wasn't sure. I thought maybe they're going to come in and try and clear it all out by the weekend. But as we can see online, as we can see from others and we're seeing from the streams, this is just infuriating people. I mean, I suspect there's a whole lot of people who are making plans to spend their weekend now in Ottawa. And they're probably heading out that way right now. And again, not saying they're getting violent or anything, but they're going to pad the numbers.

00:46:02.900 And the more people that are there, the less the police can do about it.

00:46:08.500 As Cameron also pointed out, I mean, a lot of these officers, you know, I know if people get upset with police, they see some of the stuff they're doing.

00:46:14.780 Some people think they shouldn't be working at all.

00:46:16.520 They're in different situations.

00:46:17.540 But for the most part, and I've seen that in other protests, protests that have gone off the rails, I've gone to them.

00:46:23.260 And they've got to be pushed pretty hard usually before they get straight to the violence.

00:46:28.080 As much as it sounds like the federal leadership wants to come in with tear gas and truncheons and horses and running down protesters and dragging them out by their hair, these officers themselves don't want to do that.

00:46:41.160 This is their fellow citizens.

00:46:42.480 In fact, a lot of police officers, and we've seen videos of that in Alberta, B.C., they've been outspoken and they're getting disciplined for it, unfortunately.

00:46:53.200 But they don't want any part of cracking down on Canadians.

00:46:57.240 That's not what they got into it for. And, you know, they're not in a hurry to make this into a violent confrontation. And it's good. So, so far, so good. They're holding the line. Now, I don't want to counsel people whether they should hold the line or not. But obviously, a lot are staying. So this is going to be unfolding for days. Like, in Ottawa now, it's two o'clock, you know, the sun's going to be going down in five hours.

00:47:21.960 if the police haven't moved them out now in daylight while things are all together I don't

00:47:26.700 see how they're going to be able to maybe the siege is going to continue a little more where

00:47:31.280 we're talking about them you know blocking more fuel blocking food siege wise trying to bring

00:47:39.460 them out slowly but surely but again these officers I mean they've got hundreds and hundreds

00:47:44.700 and that's that's the max of what they got you know I was talking to Spike Cohen from the United

00:47:49.780 States. He was the libertarian vice presidential candidate down there. He brought up some interesting

00:47:54.620 things. Like in Canada, we're not as much of a military type state as the United States. We're

00:47:59.400 not, we don't have the nearly number of police officers per citizen that the Americans have.

00:48:04.940 And this is stretching the resources of the police to the max. I mean, we, we have a story

00:48:09.360 on westernstandardonline.com of the Vancouver police were donating or dedicating some police

00:48:17.120 to come out to Ottawa to try and keep up with this. So if they keep, if people keep pouring

00:48:22.480 in there all weekend, the police, I mean, they can only work 12, 14 hours at a time maximum when

00:48:28.060 you're standing up in this kind of shift, this kind of work, those resources are going to be

00:48:31.440 depleted. This isn't done. This isn't even close to done. And, uh, you know, as others have said,

00:48:37.760 yeah, there's been some shoving. Apparently some people might've been hit with the butts of guns

00:48:41.400 like this is still a tense tense situation but I mean if you look at if Nico could pull up the

00:48:47.820 CBC line something that's interesting here too when you see the police all lined up right now

00:48:52.880 they're not carrying the the shields they don't have the helmets on like I've been to protests

00:48:59.440 I've attended them again usually they're the ones that that they're usually left-wing things they're

00:49:04.200 usually progressive things and and they can go off the rails they're a lot more angry and police move

00:49:08.900 in a line and it's all about intimidation. You've probably seen it on TV and it is intimidating when

00:49:12.760 you're on the ground. They'll have those shields. They'll have those helmets. They'll bang their

00:49:16.780 truncheons on those shields. They'll march towards the protesters. They push you back. 0.58

00:49:22.040 And right now, these police aren't even dressed for that kind of action right now. These aren't

00:49:26.500 riot police squads. This is just a lot of police. And I don't think they're going to clean them out

00:49:32.180 today. So now what, what do you do? Where do you go with this? Uh, time's going to tell at this

00:49:39.160 point. Uh, my guest Jay Hill should be in, in a moment, but he's not quite there yet.

00:49:44.260 And we'll talk about things. I'm going to talk, uh, while things are moving along too, though,

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00:51:40.360 and get the view from the Maverick party because they've been putting releases out on a number of

00:51:45.180 things. Hey, Jay, how you doing? Oh, I think you might be muted there, Jay.

00:51:58.720 I'm afraid I'm not quite hearing you there, Jay.

00:52:04.440 No. Okay. Let's just see here. There's a, you know, one of those challenges of doing a live

00:52:10.120 stream. All it takes is one button and you can't hear what's going on.

00:52:14.240 Try and talk there, Jake.

00:52:17.840 I'm afraid we got no sound from you right now, Jay. We'll go away from Jay for a little bit.

00:52:22.000 Maybe if he wants to try signing out and back in again, we'll see if the sound can come back on

00:52:25.940 for him. The Maverick Party has taken some

00:52:30.040 policy stances. For one, of course, they came out with a press release, which I didn't see from any other

00:52:34.060 party, strongly condemning and speaking on the actions with the

00:52:37.760 eco-terrorists up in northern British Columbia there on the coastal gas link line and uh as well

00:52:43.680 I mean they've been coming out people have asked are they uh an independence group or are they not

00:52:48.440 well they've uh certainly gotten more uh outspoken on where they stand as far as the pursuit of

00:52:54.140 western independence is uh let's call JNC ah there we go I hear you now okay sorry about that oh 0.54

00:53:01.840 that's all right I mean that's gonna be one of those things when this period of of zoom meetings

00:53:06.380 and virtual meetings and all that stuff is over.

00:53:08.160 I never want to hear people say,

00:53:09.320 do you hear me now?

00:53:10.260 Do you hear me now?

00:53:10.920 Oh, it's going to haunt me into my dreams,

00:53:12.640 into my retirement age, I'm sure.

00:53:14.620 Well, especially for fellas like me

00:53:16.580 that are getting a little long in the tooth

00:53:18.240 and aren't too technologically savvy, Corey. 0.96

00:53:22.860 Well, you got her up and running now

00:53:24.660 and I appreciate you coming on.

00:53:26.460 Maybe I'll start with that though.

00:53:27.740 I got a press release into my inbox

00:53:29.480 just before the show actually,

00:53:30.640 so I wasn't able to give it a really good read,

00:53:32.780 but you guys came right out

00:53:33.860 and you're addressing that eco-terrorist act

00:53:36.080 up in Northern British Columbia. Well, exactly. And I'd like to talk about that just for a few

00:53:41.260 minutes, Corey, in the sense of the juxtaposition between what is truly an act of terrorism where

00:53:47.900 citizens' lives were in danger and, of course, this ridiculousness of imposing or invoking the

00:53:53.980 Emergencies Act by our Prime Minister because of bouncy castles and peaceful protests that

00:54:01.040 inconvenience people in ottawa this situation up in northern british columbia has been allowed to

00:54:06.800 go on for months and months uh and it's very clear that these individuals you know they're encamped

00:54:13.760 at different places along the pipeline that enables them uh to take a part in these acts of

00:54:20.560 terrorism where people's lives are in danger i have it on good authority for example that when

00:54:26.480 they attacked from three different uh directions on that site the other night that um that it was

00:54:34.240 well coordinated it was tactical it was uh if that wasn't a terrorist act cory i don't know what is

00:54:41.440 the prime minister has the powers to come down hard on these people i'm told that they retreat

00:54:47.280 to these basically no-go zones these artificial temporary encampments that they have at that

00:54:53.280 places along the the pipeline where they protest um and that's how they can get away from the the

00:54:59.920 authorities from the security people and the rcmp so quickly and they go back to these so-called

00:55:05.840 no-go zones i mean my god is this like you know the demilitarized zone in in korea or vietnam this

00:55:12.240 is in northern british columbia in canada and we can't seem to get these people under control i was

00:55:18.320 also told recently that they set off flares get this they broke the windows of security vehicles

00:55:25.280 and set off flares inside the vehicles while the security people died this is unbelievable that we

00:55:33.600 have this act of terrorism in northern british columbia but because i would allege because it

00:55:39.840 involves the construction of a pipeline the federal government and our prime minister justin

00:55:44.960 Trudeau is silent on this while he's focused on arresting people in Ottawa for a peaceful protest

00:55:52.640 yeah what a contrast we've got going on is Wayne McCracken said apparently yeah there's footage

00:55:57.740 it sounds like that somebody was hitting a protester with the butt of his rifle and some

00:56:01.240 were being arrested we were getting uh some live updates from from uh Indy News Now with Cameron

00:56:07.320 James out there he's on the ground and it's been remarkably peaceful and people have been

00:56:11.520 calm and so far, but this is the group. This is the group that the prime ministers keep saying

00:56:17.180 are extremists. They're dangerous. They're terrible. And we've got whatever it may be,

00:56:22.140 thousands of them there and very, very little violence or anything. And then we've had this

00:56:26.880 ongoing in BC for two years, getting increasingly violent, constantly blocking roads, knocking

00:56:33.620 trees down, intimidating workers. And now it's come to this with actually attacking security.

00:56:38.540 The prime minister should be doing a special release right now, but he's hiding, sucking his thumb, watching the Olympics or something.

00:56:44.440 Well, exactly, Corey. And I think that all Canadians should be deeply concerned about this juxtaposition between imposing an unnecessary emergencies act on peaceful protesters in Ottawa.

00:56:58.600 And I might add people that he has refused to meet with, to even negotiate or to even try and understand what their issues are.

00:57:07.100 These are Canadian citizens that are raising concerns about how this whole COVID restrictions, how they've unfolded over the last couple of years and in particular the last month or so.

00:57:19.140 And he won't meet with them.

00:57:20.540 He's never, ever done anything except denigrate them, attack them, demean them with vile comments.

00:57:28.020 And this from our Prime Minister, Corey. And at the same time, as you're saying, the juxtaposition that this terrorist act, once it's escalated to the point of attempted murder. Let's be very clear about this. If you break the window of a vehicle when someone's inside it and you shoot a flare in there that you're trying to set that vehicle on fire with the individuals inside, what do you call that?

00:57:54.160 I call it attempted murder.

00:57:56.440 And the prime minister should be using all his powers there where there's a true act of terrorism.

00:58:03.620 Yeah, it's absurd.

00:58:05.120 So, I mean, and just for people who aren't familiar with it, you were a member of parliament in Ottawa for a large number of years.

00:58:10.000 You survived it well for those who can manage that much time up there.

00:58:13.280 But you saw, I mean, I'm certain over that period of time, a number of protests on Parliament Hill.

00:58:18.060 I mean, it's natural.

00:58:18.900 Every national capital has them.

00:58:21.000 Have you ever seen a response to a protest like this, though?

00:58:25.360 Never, never.

00:58:26.960 I mean, Prime Minister traditionally tried to head off something like this, nip it in the bud, so to speak, Corey, by meeting with the people.

00:58:36.100 You know, this Prime Minister did it with everybody imaginable that has protested as long as it's from, shall we say, the left side of the spectrum.

00:58:45.660 him. He has no problem even marching in some protest parades. And yet when these people travel

00:58:53.160 all across the country to meet with him and to make him aware of an issue, a serious issue that

00:59:00.020 they don't feel is being properly addressed, he won't even sit down with them to hear their

00:59:04.640 concerns. And instead he lets this unfold, lets it escalate to the point that weeks later he

00:59:11.300 actually invokes the Emergencies Act to give him 100% power. And let's be clear on this, Corey.

00:59:19.100 This is a prime minister that was elected by 20% of the electorate last fall. He got roughly one

00:59:27.380 third of the people that showed up at the polls. That's one third of 60% by my addition and my

00:59:34.300 math. That's about 20% support from the Canadian electorate. And now he has seized 100% of the

00:59:40.940 power with the enactment of the the Emergencies Act. So this is scary business and this is all

00:59:50.580 on him. He had a chance to address this early and he has failed to do so on every front and that

00:59:57.780 this is allowed to be carried on and that the mainstream media is not reporting this accurately

01:00:03.620 is of deep deep concern to all Canadians I believe. Yeah the media coverage has just been

01:00:10.660 abhorrent uh it's been great for alternative outlets like us with the western standard our

01:00:15.140 subscribers are going up in our viewership but it's only because that people have seen the media

01:00:19.320 now the establishment media for what they've turned into and what they are and they're just

01:00:23.100 repulsed uh so hopefully in the long run we can we can do better and inform people more and another

01:00:29.260 disappointment out of this on the hill is is the ndp i mean the ndp of old there's no way jack

01:00:34.460 layton what if for example if we're going to bring up one of their icons you know what have

01:00:38.760 supported the Emergency Measures Act against protesters. I just can't see it. Even Svend

01:00:44.020 Robinson, I believe you shared some time on the Hill with him, perhaps. I mean, he was a hardcore

01:00:48.440 left-wing NDPer, and he's come out and said this is a disgrace. The NDP should not be supporting

01:00:53.900 this imposition of what's a version of martial law in Canada, yet Jagmeet Singh is marching in

01:01:00.440 lockstep with Justin Trudeau on what I see as a tyranny. Well, and you'd be right. I mean,

01:01:07.160 as i just said this is a prime minister with very small support the the weakest mandate ever in the

01:01:14.440 history of the country seizing 100 of the power with the help of the ndp to do that i mean he

01:01:21.880 cannot pass anything through parliament without the support of at least one of the other parties

01:01:28.120 as you know cory uh i was there during three minorities one of paul martin and two by stephen

01:01:34.520 And I know the difficulty that we had in negotiating with the other parties on an hour-by-hour basis to get Mr. Harper's agenda through the House of Commons.

01:01:46.800 It called for huge compromise and working constantly with the other parties and their House leaders to accomplish that.

01:01:55.240 And yet, Mr. Trudeau, with the weakest mandate, seems to be able to just whistle and Jagmeet saying comes running.

01:02:03.240 Only too happy to do his bidding and support the Liberal agenda in the House of Commons, including invoking the Emergencies Act.

01:02:14.420 It's absolutely unbelievable that every Canadian isn't up in arms.

01:02:20.200 I was talking to a family member that has been following all the rules, doing everything over the last two years, and he is incensed.

01:02:29.220 This latest thing has finally tipped the balance, I believe, for him and many others that have been trying to do their best.

01:02:37.040 They've got vaccinated.

01:02:38.320 They follow all the restrictions.

01:02:39.820 They follow all the rules.

01:02:41.300 And then it comes to this.

01:02:43.440 And I hope that this is the turning point.

01:02:46.600 I hope this is the breaking point for many Canadians.

01:02:49.260 And that's why Maverick has been calling upon the Western premiers not to just talk about it, not to just oppose the imposition of the Emergencies Act.

01:02:59.220 But to do something, they have to actually take action with their legislatures while they still have the power to do so.

01:03:07.860 Yeah, well, we're seeing essentially, I mean, that our system is broken.

01:03:10.680 It's just not functioning the way it's supposed to.

01:03:13.420 And I don't think it can be repaired.

01:03:14.980 And it sounds like the Maverick Party, if I interpret this right, you guys, it's always been kind of, well, are you fully in support of independence or no?

01:03:22.240 I've definitely sort of come to the line of saying, you know what, it's time to head for independence.

01:03:27.160 Well, we've always been in favour of independence.

01:03:29.800 It depends on where that lands, Corey, as you know.

01:03:32.660 And we see a range of it, but you have to start somewhere.

01:03:36.220 The old saying that every great journey begins with one step.

01:03:39.560 You have to start somewhere.

01:03:40.960 And that's why I'm urging the Western premiers in the three prairie provinces

01:03:45.120 to actually do something, to show central Canada, to show Trudeau,

01:03:49.840 we're not going to take it anymore.

01:03:51.340 And so whether it's incremental steps like the Fair Deal panel here in Alberta,

01:03:55.620 put forward, like our own pension plan to emulate Quebec on so many different fronts,

01:04:01.240 control of our immigration. You run down the list and eventually arrive at a nation within a nation.

01:04:06.900 If it's that, or if we even decide that that can no longer work, that no longer is tenable

01:04:12.800 in the best interests of Westerners, then you have to go full out independence, absolutely.

01:04:18.260 And I'm suggesting, Corey, that the time has to be now for people to rise up and say, we are not going to put up with this anymore.

01:04:29.060 Well, and ironically, unity can be gained if provinces will stand up and assert their autonomy, as you for conservatives is kind of saying.

01:04:37.820 I mean, premiers are referred to as first ministers.

01:04:39.840 When it's a first minister's conference, they're supposed to be a part of the whole government.

01:04:43.260 They're supposed to be the representatives of their regions.

01:04:45.920 And right now, seven out of 10 premiers oppose the imposition of the Emergencies Act right now.

01:04:53.040 And Trudeau hasn't even talked to them.

01:04:54.680 He's ignored them.

01:04:55.480 He doesn't care what they think.

01:04:57.000 But what's the point of having regional leaders if their input doesn't matter in such a big issue?

01:05:02.540 Exactly.

01:05:03.740 I want to make one other point just on this issue of the terrorist activity up in northern British Columbia.

01:05:09.600 And that is that people are under the illusion that somehow the prime minister isn't aware.

01:05:14.460 I know for a fact of being a government minister with Prime Minister Harper

01:05:19.820 that the Prime Minister receives a detailed briefing every morning

01:05:24.220 about what's happening not only across the nation, but around the globe.

01:05:28.300 So it's not like he...

01:05:33.460 We might have a little bit of a problem with Jay's feed as the Internet's acting up.

01:05:40.140 Speaking of promises from federal and provincial leaders over time,

01:05:43.360 of course, better internet streams throughout Canada have been one year after year that they

01:05:48.700 keep promising that never comes about. We'll see there. Jay seems to be moving around a bit again.

01:05:53.440 We'll pull him back here. Sorry, Jay, your internet kind of calved out on you. It looks a little weak

01:05:56.940 there. We'll let you finish up before we move on there, though. What were you saying?

01:06:01.120 I was just going to say, or just saying, Corey, that just so people are clear, the Prime Minister

01:06:05.860 receives an in-depth briefing every morning. It's not like he can say, oh, I didn't know about what

01:06:11.760 was unfolding in northern British Columbia.

01:06:14.300 He's invoked the Emergencies Act needlessly

01:06:17.020 for the demonstrations in Ottawa.

01:06:22.220 Use that act since you invoked it, Mr. Trudeau,

01:06:25.640 and clamp down on this terrorism in northern B.C.

01:06:30.360 Great. Well, thank you for being one strong voice.

01:06:33.460 You know, we haven't had enough.

01:06:34.520 I mean, even the federal conservatives

01:06:35.720 have kind of been careful right now.

01:06:37.380 They're in the middle of a leadership race.

01:06:39.740 You know, Polyev has been outspoken,

01:06:41.100 but they're kind of wishy-washy, I think, somewhat.

01:06:44.460 They're always looking for the big brass ring.

01:06:46.680 So where can we find more information on you and the Maverick Party

01:06:49.000 and what you guys are up to because you've been pretty active lately?

01:06:51.940 Well, of course, we're on social media on virtually every platform,

01:06:55.540 Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, you name it.

01:06:58.020 We have our own website that we post our positions on at maverickparty.ca.

01:07:04.180 And I would just say that the problems you just mentioned

01:07:07.280 with the Conservative Party are because they are a national party

01:07:10.980 And they always have to stop short of being representative of the concerns of Western Canadians because they always have to bear in mind the majority of votes are in Central and Eastern Canada.

01:07:27.440 Great. Well, thank you very much for joining me again, Jay. It's always good talking with you and keep up the good fight out there.

01:07:33.480 Thank you, you as well, Corey.

01:07:35.460 Thank you so much for the coverage that you're giving Canadians

01:07:38.560 so that people like my son-in-law have some place to go

01:07:41.840 and get some accurate information of what is happening.

01:07:45.260 Great, thanks, Jay.

01:07:46.520 I'll probably check in with Cameron again in a moment or two,

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01:08:36.920 because our rights are terribly under threat right now, as we're seeing in Ottawa as we speak. So

01:08:41.780 let's bring Cameron in there. He seems to be right in the middle of the mix of everything in Ottawa,

01:08:48.500 out in the cold. There we go. Hey, Cameron, how's it going now?

01:08:51.680 Pretty well. It looks like the police here, the Quebec police are the ones in the riot gear, the SQP, and they are sort of inching up forward. They take sort of a foot every couple of minutes or so, and it seems like they're trying to sort of get around one vehicle at a time to make sure that they have sort of control over them is kind of what I'm seeing, although, of course, I don't know what they're thinking.

01:09:21.680 And there's police from a number of jurisdictions.

01:09:25.060 Again, the Quebec police are the ones they bussed in last night.

01:09:28.520 They brought big buses of the Quebec police in last night.

01:09:32.980 And they're the ones on the right here on the front lines.

01:09:35.840 They just inched another foot and got around this truck here.

01:09:40.880 As you can see, they're forming a line around it.

01:09:44.620 Okay, so I guess they're taking it vehicle by vehicle, as you said.

01:09:48.960 as the protesters get backed up then by these these riot police is there somewhere for them

01:09:53.940 to go or is this going to press them against a wall here well um down the other way wellington

01:10:00.240 is pretty clear so um you know there's about 500 meters before you get to the main area on the hill

01:10:07.640 and then streets that are going south away from the hill are all open the police are not letting

01:10:15.360 vehicles in but they are letting people walk in and the corralling doesn't seem to be a

01:10:21.980 cornering process at all yet. Okay because that's just a concern you know I mean that's when a

01:10:27.420 protest can get dangerous I mean if police are pushing and pushing and there's nowhere else for

01:10:30.760 people to consider backing up well that's when you're going to get a conflict eventually so

01:10:35.340 no indications of any violence yet or anything like that. No it looks pretty good so far they're

01:10:43.060 just inching forward. They've got a couple guys with their fingers on the triggers of some tear

01:10:48.460 gas guns, but I really don't foresee them using those for any reason. It's pretty calm. The cops

01:10:55.880 are pretty calm. They're pushing against some people as they inch forward, but there isn't

01:11:02.640 much in the way of tussling or anything like that. That's good to hear. And I don't know if

01:11:08.300 you heard much in my other interview. I was talking to Jay Hill, and he was a member of

01:11:11.300 parliament for a long time and you know he saw a lot of protests come and go and again nobody's

01:11:15.580 ever seen anything quite like this yeah um this is unprecedented i guess as you guys were saying

01:11:24.020 in a number of different ways um especially of course the media coverage were in there

01:11:29.080 saying that there's all sorts of violence here and uh aggressive acts and it's all bigots of

01:11:35.480 course they had those two most people believe they were plants because they weren't part of

01:11:39.520 protest at all with some uh hateful flags but everyone here has been really respectful and

01:11:45.520 beautiful and actually have had more violence against them slash tires and um a couple people

01:11:52.000 taking things and people and tussling with people so i don't see it escalating uh really although

01:11:59.040 they're just doing another a push of the line it looks like advanced advanced here here um as you

01:12:06.000 you can see behind me yeah and i mean this is good to see it undercuts you know that that push

01:12:12.160 by the prime minister saying that he needed the emergencies act that he needed to move in

01:12:15.640 i hate to say it and i hope they aren't that cold but i'm sure a few strategists would almost hope

01:12:20.480 there'd be some uh outbursts so they can justify what they've done so far and they're not getting

01:12:25.280 it yeah we we kind of ran into a couple situations like that and a lot of the guys who are involved

01:12:32.580 heavily with the protests are sort of equipped to dismantle those situations and I think we were

01:12:38.160 able to sort of de-escalate some situations too so a lot of the protesters are working really hard

01:12:43.380 to make sure that those kind of agitators and situations don't come up. So I'm glad you

01:12:49.800 mentioned that like we had video as you said there was some repugnant flags that had gone around

01:12:53.720 one video showed protesters themselves got up and said hey you get out of here you're not part of

01:12:57.920 us we want no part of that you leave and and uh so right now the protesters are sort of self-governing

01:13:03.120 against people who want to get uh perhaps too physical or too aggressive in in this case right

01:13:07.600 now a hundred percent and um it's there's also a lot of messages going around through what is a

01:13:15.120 a really powerful grapevine and people saying listen don't engage them if you do want to talk

01:13:20.000 to someone who's a counter protester have a nice conversation just listen to them hear what they

01:13:24.880 have to say um i went down and talked to some of the counter protesters originally complaining

01:13:30.560 about the horns and listened respectfully and um i think the truckers actually listened and

01:13:36.440 chilled out on the horns and then the cops tried to play it off as if it was their strong arming

01:13:41.240 that did it but i think it was a real respect for the citizens of the city you know well and

01:13:45.940 something else that had happened was uh the mayor had approached protesters in a way the mayor wasn't

01:13:50.280 very supportive of them but it sounds like they reasoned out a deal at least to say can you at

01:13:54.200 least you know ease off on the residential neighborhoods and it takes pressure off and

01:13:57.880 it showed again hey they could be reasoned with they moved there wasn't a problem the only one

01:14:02.880 who seems intractable unfortunately is our prime minister yeah and he's been stoking tensions here

01:14:08.320 totally unnecessary and it's like some people are saying what what is he doing is he trying

01:14:12.880 to start a civil war is he trying to just disrupt the country and it's it's it's just shameful

01:14:17.200 really but um you know the um represent yeah there's the uh the representation here shows

01:14:27.040 that all they're all types of canadians are all standing with this and want unity without needing

01:14:33.200 to have any with harmony without needing to sort of follow anyone's particular dictate right

01:14:39.280 yeah it's i mean it's not ideologically driven you know i mean they've tried to paint it that

01:14:45.880 way they try to say oh it's this particular group or that but i saw that in in demonstrations in

01:14:50.840 calgary too there's people from all over the political spectrum or most impressively people

01:14:54.840 who aren't political whatsoever they've just had enough and they feel they got to do something

01:14:58.700 families and that's we're doing a lot of interviews and the different messages um for why

01:15:05.520 why people want to be here are very diverse but they all surround a sense of freedom and a sense

01:15:11.680 respecting every every canadian's right there's plenty of people here who are vaccinated who say

01:15:16.400 you know i respect the vaccines but i i want people to be able to choose their own choices

01:15:21.200 and not force things upon people and i think more and more of those people are joining the protests

01:15:25.760 and seeing that there is just love and compassion here and it's not a thing and thing and it's and

01:15:32.240 then they go and they tell their friends look the narrative in the media is is lying right and that

01:15:37.840 should concern us all yeah absolutely i mean people are seeing through it and i appreciate

01:15:43.460 you being on the ground again the narrative has just been so bad so if something happens

01:15:46.840 it's documented we've got people there saying no that that's not what you're framing that's not

01:15:51.460 what happened it's so important i do want to ask though it's a sensitive subject but have you seen

01:15:56.140 much for children around there like that is a concern some people have i mean yeah every day

01:16:01.260 there's usually families out bringing their children they they want their children to be

01:16:06.000 part of it. Their children want to be part of it because they do believe that there is something

01:16:09.580 at the essence of being a Canadian and being a free human being in the world that they would

01:16:15.480 like to show their kids and share the joy and the hope that everybody here is really just

01:16:21.460 passing out. It's just positive mess. None of the kids have ever been in danger. There's not

01:16:27.540 very many here now, which is, I think, maybe a better thing. A lot of people were complaining

01:16:33.800 about that and now that they have some of the weapons out um um i'm kind of glad that there

01:16:39.180 are less children around yeah that's kind of what i was saying just like not so much the children in

01:16:43.500 general but just at this moment because unfortunately things could change quickly

01:16:47.920 and a child could get trampled or tear gas i don't know if you've ever been tear gassed but i have

01:16:52.260 it's horrible i mean it sucks the breath out of your lungs and for a small child it could be

01:16:56.140 very dangerous so uh you know we just want to make sure nobody gets hurt

01:16:59.780 Yeah, I don't know exactly what the orders are down here.

01:17:04.860 It just seems like they're advancing and they're not really, you know,

01:17:07.600 have the arsenal at the ready, but I don't get the feeling they're looking to use it, really.

01:17:13.640 Have you seen, you said they're taking kind of vehicle by vehicle.

01:17:16.360 Have you seen any signs of heavy-duty tow trucks?

01:17:18.680 Some footage had gone out earlier from Andrew Lawton showing police escorting tow trucks out to the area,

01:17:23.980 and it takes a specialized truck to move those trucks.

01:17:26.180 Any indication they're trying to move any vehicles yet?

01:17:29.060 Yeah, we saw those vehicles as well earlier.

01:17:31.780 They had police logos over the company logos.

01:17:35.780 I mean, there are still hundreds of trucks here, so they might be able to move one or two.

01:17:41.760 The snow is still kind of on the ground.

01:17:43.520 It's clouded out in a lot of areas.

01:17:45.480 But overall, I don't know how much they're going to be able to move in terms of trucks.

01:17:51.240 But nothing seems to be moving quite yet.

01:17:54.700 Okay, some chanting going on over there.

01:17:57.260 It's getting a little lively.

01:17:58.260 there was a really great chant uh stand with us stand with us that was going on for a while while

01:18:05.080 you guys were talking oh yeah well that's uh good it's better than that hey hey ho ho with

01:18:11.080 every demonstration i mean i understand it's a standby but boy it gets tired

01:18:14.700 well that's great well i'm gonna let you go i really appreciate these check-ins and maybe again

01:18:21.520 you know if something breaks let me know uh we'll bring you right back in i appreciate those feet

01:18:26.560 on the ground and let people know what's going on that way as it breaks um i hope you stay safe

01:18:32.560 and just remind everybody that's cameron james with indie news now you guys are on tick tock

01:18:37.920 and youtube i really appreciate this i hope we talk again soon and and just uh send me a text

01:18:43.520 and let me know if uh if there's something you feel needs to break we'll get it out there because

01:18:46.720 this is really important yes thanks very much car you have a great day all right thanks you're doing

01:18:51.440 a great job so yeah you know this is uh we're you know turning points that we see throughout

01:18:57.520 of all of this and uh one of which is independent media you know it's it's coming out people are

01:19:02.880 giving up on the old mainstream the standbys the establishment media that's the term you know or

01:19:08.480 the legacy media and uh it's made a difference you know these protests wouldn't be able to happen

01:19:14.560 like this they wouldn't be able to be this peaceful they wouldn't be able to to make this messaging

01:19:19.280 if we were constantly getting that filtered biased controlled media as you can see cameron's on the

01:19:25.840 ground he's just shooting and reporting on what he sees and i could tell if the protesters were

01:19:30.800 getting unruly and uncontrolled he'd be reporting on that as well he's just there to document what's

01:19:35.280 going on he's not there to give a slant or a side but unfortunately our legacy media on the other

01:19:41.120 hand and as we've seen have constantly seemed to almost been the the message piece for the

01:19:45.600 for the prime minister when it comes out with these things. And they've definitely got their

01:19:49.860 own agenda and we've got to cut through that. It is so important. So it's great having Cameron

01:19:55.180 there. I'm glad he dedicated some time to us today so we could see that. And the CBC, you know,

01:19:59.820 we've been showing some of that. There's streaming coverage. They got cameras. It's funny. If you

01:20:03.700 look at the CBC stream, these are cameras that are distant from the protests. They're always a

01:20:09.280 ways away and shooting in with a zoom lens because they are not being well received by people on the

01:20:14.100 ground. And it's because they've given such crap coverage. I don't want to see reporters shoved 0.98

01:20:18.560 around or abused at these sites. But I don't want people to refuse to talk to them. You're not going

01:20:25.840 to get a fair shake out of most of them. I've said before that there's still some good journalists

01:20:30.080 out there in the legacy media. They got to pay bills or whatnot. I'm sure they probably feel

01:20:33.580 dirty at the end of the day with some of the stuff they put out there. But, you know, take it easy on

01:20:38.540 some of them. Hey, eventually the good ones will come out to good outlets like ours. I mean, our

01:20:43.000 news editor Dave Naylor is fantastic and covers stuff. And of course he put in decades with the

01:20:48.420 Calgary Sun, which is mainstream. Like there's still good guys and women out there and let's

01:20:53.540 keep pulling them away from there and leave the legacy media to the crappy reporters that they

01:20:57.440 have gathered and the rest. But guys like James or Cameron James can get right in on the ground

01:21:03.020 in the protest because they respect independent media out there. And I'm looking at that footage

01:21:09.400 from CBC. It looks like they've been shoveling up barriers. So they're putting snow barriers up

01:21:13.320 around the trucks to make it more difficult for tow trucks to come in. It was interesting listening

01:21:18.960 to Cameron saying that the tow trucks that he saw coming out there had the police logo put over top

01:21:28.060 of their company logo because of course the companies could be seeing some backlash. I mean

01:21:32.500 you got to remember who operates and we're not talking about the little tow trucks guys. This

01:21:35.500 isn't AMA we're talking about here. This is heavy duty tow trucks. It's specialized equipment

01:21:44.200 made for moving heavy equipment. I'm sorry, I just see from Yay for Conservatives said that

01:21:51.500 Trans Mountain was just canceled by the feds. And I know that's a social media account that's

01:21:56.820 prominent and been out there big on Facebook and things like that. Can you expand a little bit on

01:22:01.600 that. Trans Mountain has been canceled. That's kind of out of the blue here on us. I haven't

01:22:06.740 heard anything about this yet, but boy, what an insane thing to break and happen if that's the

01:22:12.440 case right now in the middle of all of this. Either way, we see that trucker, before I get

01:22:17.180 more news on that, backing in, moving in, into where they've been piling all the snow there.

01:22:23.120 These tow trucks, and as Cameron had told us, there are hundreds of trucks down there.

01:22:29.700 even if they push the people back, how are they going to move all of these vehicles? And I remember

01:22:35.720 my air brakes course. I probably couldn't pass the test again at this point, but I did have to take

01:22:39.560 it. And you can do things with those brakes, you know, caging and so on, those air brakes,

01:22:44.940 and they will lock and those trucks are not going to move easily. So the logistics of this whole

01:22:49.560 thing. So for all of the, and we saw it in social media, some of these, these control-minded people

01:22:54.340 who are celebrating the police moving in and saying it's over, it's done. They're going to

01:22:57.880 clean out Ottawa, and, you know, we can maintain these mandates forever. Guys, logistically, as

01:23:03.600 we're seeing now, it's not even nearly as easy as you think it is, or as you hope it might be.

01:23:09.620 It is a massive endeavor. And again, it's a delicate endeavor. I mean, most police, as I

01:23:15.660 said earlier, don't want to get violent. They don't want this to fall apart and have people hurt. They

01:23:20.680 don't want to hit them over the head. I mean, I'm sure there's a psychopath or two among them. There 0.98

01:23:23.520 always is with a number of people. But so far, it's been remarkably peaceful. And this isn't

01:23:30.240 stopping. Obviously, these guys are in for the weekend. I can't see them cleaning this up before

01:23:34.320 the weekend. I was wondering this morning when they started moving, okay, are they going to come

01:23:37.600 in en masse? And are they going to have this flushed out before all the people can show up

01:23:41.920 from all around for another weekend of protests? And obviously, that's not going to be the case.

01:23:45.700 They are not going to get these guys out of there. And this protests are going on and on.

01:23:52.800 Trudeau's emergency powers are not serving him. These people are devoted, you know, going after

01:23:59.300 people's bank accounts, shaming them in the works. Not working. These trucks, as we said, there's some

01:24:04.640 that came in for these heavy-duty tow trucks. These private companies, they're truckers.

01:24:09.600 They support this group. And literally, they've made it illegal to say no. But

01:24:17.680 And the A4 Conservatives is saying it's from BNN, saying the Trans Mountain's been cancelled.

01:24:22.300 We'll certainly work on that if we hear more about it.

01:24:25.420 Getting near the end of the broadcast.

01:24:28.160 TMX for Damien asking us the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

01:24:31.340 That's the one that the government's regulated to the point of...

01:24:35.000 Here we go.

01:24:35.740 According to the A4 Conservatives, the cost of building has nearly doubled.

01:24:38.680 The timeline for completing it has expanded.

01:24:41.000 In a release Friday afternoon, they said the estimated cost has gone from, climbed to $21 billion from the previous estimate of $12.6 billion.

01:24:51.080 Yeah, we knew about all that, but cancelling it?

01:24:54.860 Guys, as others are saying, if that's what's going on, and with this mess in Ottawa and everything else, it's time for the West to go.

01:25:03.220 I've been saying that for quite some time.

01:25:05.360 And if they've actually shut that thing down.

01:25:08.260 I mean, that thing's mostly buried.

01:25:09.560 we've been working on this for years and to stop it at this point but again our prime minister is 0.99

01:25:14.200 an abject imbecile uh so i'm just going to pop on to cameron one more time before the end here 0.98

01:25:18.600 nico's saying we got something going on there so we'll pull him in cameron what we got going on 0.99

01:25:27.240 with uh one of the uh the truckers park there's two trucks parked right here we were talking to

01:25:32.280 another trucker who didn't want to come on but we've uh got sebastian here right um hey sebastian

01:25:38.120 Hi, how are you?

01:25:40.120 Very good. I hope you guys are all doing all right here out in Ottawa.

01:25:45.120 You're making history.

01:25:47.120 I mean, so far I'm doing pretty well. I cannot hear you properly, but...

01:25:53.120 Yeah, no, it's difficult with the live stream.

01:25:57.120 So are you camped out there or are you just there for the day or have you been there for a while now?

01:26:03.120 Well, I've actually had my truck parked here for, I think it was two weeks and four days to be exact, so I've been here for a while, yeah.

01:26:10.820 Okay, and I imagine you're still determined to stay no matter what the government is doing at this time, eh?

01:26:17.680 Well, so far I'm not too sure. I think if they clear the snow in front of me, I might drive my truck and go relocate somewhere to avoid getting towed and arrested.

01:26:25.920 But we'll have to see what's going to happen in the next few hours.

01:26:29.300 and yeah okay well that's interesting i guess you must be getting fairly tired after this long i

01:26:35.700 mean what would it take to make you want to leave though what do you want to see happen

01:26:40.180 to bring this to an end if they can lift all the mandates all across canada and give us our freedom

01:26:46.180 back then i'll be i'll be happy but for now i'm willing to stay i don't know what's going to

01:26:50.580 happen in the next few hours but we'll have to see these these are crazy times i hope you guys

01:26:58.420 managed to stay safe and keep peaceful as you have so far. I appreciate that you guys have

01:27:03.860 protested so effectively so far. Thank you. I really appreciate that.

01:27:08.100 All right. Thanks for bringing that in, Cameron. It's good to hear the voice of somebody. Again,

01:27:18.100 it's not a crazy person. It's not an extremist. It's just a dedicated soul who just wants these

01:27:22.500 mandates gone and that's really that's really it everyone we've talked to here is is got these

01:27:40.820 yeah i think your mic has got a little loose there i couldn't quite hear that last little bit

01:27:45.140 um yeah no everyone we've talked to has kind of been of a similar similar sentiment where they're

01:27:49.620 willing to start and they want it to be peaceful. Great. Well, thank you very much for keeping us

01:27:56.660 up to date and for those interviews. And we'll be watching you very closely and perhaps checking in

01:28:00.180 with you again if you've got something coming. Excellent. All right. Stay warm, stay safe,

01:28:05.620 and keep up doing that good work, Cameron James. That's some indie news now. Look him up, guys.

01:28:11.220 He's reporting. He's on the ground. I'm certain he's going to be there for a while and have more

01:28:14.900 stuff going on to their site on YouTube and other areas. So we're getting near the end of the show.

01:28:19.220 and I really want to get out there and follow up and see what the heck's going on with the Trans

01:28:22.460 Mountain Pipeline. Of course, I could see that, you know, when the government wants to do something,

01:28:26.420 by the way, if you're familiar with politics, they will drop their worst releases just before

01:28:32.220 a long weekend because they're hoping people forget it. And I mean, this is a gift for them

01:28:35.960 to drop the release on the Friday when we're in the midst of protests and police actions and things

01:28:40.860 going on across the country and hope people don't realize that they just pulled the rug out from

01:28:44.720 under us on this Trans Mountain Pipeline, if that's the case. Calvin Goulet-Jones is saying

01:28:48.700 it's not canceled. So see, there's some of the problems when we get live stuff and social media

01:28:52.260 stuff. So I won't say anything's been canceled until we've got some confirmation on things.

01:28:57.360 The prices are escalating. I know I saw some, of course, you know, environmental groups demanding

01:29:01.660 it be canceled because the prices are going up, but they're not exactly business minded souls.

01:29:05.480 So for now, we'll stick to the coverage of everything else. We'll check into the rest

01:29:10.080 of the things. Go to the westernstandardonline.com. If it is canceled, we'll certainly have news on

01:29:15.160 that right away and if it isn't well there won't be anything on it it's just another rumor but

01:29:18.780 there'll probably be some reporting on the uh uh cost and expenses that have been shot up in the

01:29:23.020 reports that are coming out because you know what just get the bloody thing in the ground 0.92

01:29:26.400 it should have been done years ago you fools uh meanwhile the world's in an energy crisis so next 0.94

01:29:32.320 week on tuesday and i mean who knows we might be breaking in with some live things so if you 0.89

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01:29:48.820 was on the ground people got the alert and they could see it live uh so otherwise next week on

01:29:55.040 tuesday i'll be back at 11 30 as uh with every other day and uh we're gonna have the tea party

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01:30:04.220 and he was a speech writer for uh donald trump i believe he's an interesting gentleman if nothing

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01:30:12.400 standard columnist andrew allison who has been uh he's a philosophy major in in calgary a phd

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Western Standard - February 19, 2022

LIVE - Triggered： Trudeau has lost control of Canada

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