Western Standard - LIVE - Triggered： Trudeau’s true nature is on display

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 good morning all it's february 17th 2022 welcome to triggered i'm cory morgan this is the western

00:00:40.680 standards daily live show that runs from 11 30 till around one o'clock every day monday to friday

00:00:47.780 on mountain standard time i got a good one coming up today as always a couple of good guests and

00:00:55.780 of course there's just so much going on right now i mean with the emergencies act being declared

00:00:59.860 with uh the protests coming going arrests all sorts of stuff happening comments are of course

00:01:05.440 welcome it's one of the good things i like hey there beverly about uh uh doing this live so

00:01:11.140 we can interact i can get some feedback from you guys see what you want to hear or what you don't

00:01:15.520 want to hear i won't always necessarily listen to you but i do appreciate the feedback either way

00:01:20.060 and you can talk with each other in the comment scroll as well it's nice to see discussions going

00:01:23.480 on just you know keep it civil of course no spamming and no calling each other names too

00:01:27.560 roughly. We can be a little bit triggered, but we do want to be somewhat polite. First, when I get

00:01:32.400 to my guest, it's going to be Michael Wagner. He's been on before. He's an author in Alberta. He has

00:01:36.920 a PhD in political science, and he's written a number of books. Hey there, Gilles. I'm terrible

00:01:43.740 with the French names. But Michael and I are going to be talking about how all these activities

00:01:48.260 and everything are impacting demand and need for Western independence. I suspect a lot of us around

00:01:52.440 here are feeling more of that need than ever. After that, I'm going to have a really interesting

00:01:56.420 guest on as well, which is Spike Cohen. He was the vice presidential candidate in the last

00:02:02.600 American election for the Libertarian Party in the States. And I know they've got the two-party

00:02:06.280 system. The chances of them winning the presidency were very slight, but the Libertarian Party down

00:02:11.580 there and movement is a heck of a lot stronger than what it is up here in Canada. So it'll be

00:02:15.580 good to get that American perspective, though, because we've made so much American news over

00:02:19.000 the insanity going on up here. Unfortunately, most of it negative and quite embarrassing.

00:02:24.320 But yes, Spike is going to lend that perspective to us.

00:02:27.700 So before I start into my rant, and I've got one going, I'm Triggered as usual today, and Trudeau is the subject of it.

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00:03:35.980 let's talk. Truckers for Freedom Convoy has truly brought Justin Trudeau's nature to light.

00:03:42.400 And I don't mean the vacuous frat boy who trips on his tongue and spends more time deciding which

00:03:47.540 socks to wear than he does on policy. I mean the angry, vindictive little man that he is. 0.95

00:03:52.940 The insecure, petty elitism has been virtually dripping from him for weeks now. The trust fund

00:03:59.340 child who would be king hit new lows yesterday when he accused a Jewish descendant of Holocaust

00:04:04.300 survivors of being aligned with Nazis. The words from his mouth are indicative of his idiocy, 1.00

00:04:10.440 but his refusal to even consider apologizing for uttering them is indicative of his malignancy, 1.00

00:04:15.620 and that's more concerning. Trudeau has a history of ill behavior when it comes to women.

00:04:21.000 In August of 2000, Trudeau had been reported as having groped and inappropriately handled a female

00:04:25.620 reporter at a music festival. I'm sure you remember when that came up. When confronted by that

00:04:30.600 newspaper on it, you know, from the reporter, Trudeau literally said, I'm sorry, if I'd have

00:04:35.180 known you were reporting for a national paper, I never would have been so forward. Trudeau wasn't

00:04:39.860 sorry for inappropriately groping a young woman. He was only sorry that she turned out to have a

00:04:43.700 large platform from which she could speak about it. Had it been just a run-of-the-mill commoner,

00:04:48.740 I'm sure it would have been just perfectly fine in his eyes. When confronted about this story in

00:04:52.800 Trudeau 18, Trudeau said, who knows where her mind was, and I fully respect her ability to

00:04:57.560 experience something differently. Yeah, that's what he said. I'm sure we remember that. He respects

00:05:03.180 her ability to experience something differently. How condescending. What was he trying to say?

00:05:08.020 Sounds like one of those roundabout ways of saying she was asking for it. Or maybe she just

00:05:12.820 didn't know what was good for her. You know, hey, you've got the hunky Trudeau coming on to you.

00:05:17.220 You're experiencing it differently, but you're wrong. This is not acceptable. Or maybe he was

00:05:21.080 accusing her of being drunk. The concept of apologizing and saying perhaps that, hey, he was

00:05:27.280 a young drunk at the idiot, you know, idiot at the time who had a terrible and disrespectful lack of 1.00

00:05:32.180 judgment never occurred to him for a second, though. Yes, it would be a humbling admission, 1.00

00:05:36.080 but people could accept it. Hey, a lot of people have done stupid things in their youth while 1.00

00:05:39.860 drinking at festivals, perhaps. Again, it doesn't make it a good thing to do, but if you apologize, 0.85

00:05:43.920 it shows that you've moved on. Seems to have saved him in the cases of his chronic use of blackface. 0.66

00:05:48.520 Trudeau will never admit to being wrong on something, though, particularly when it comes 0.91

00:05:51.720 to his interactions with strong women. He has no respect for that young woman in any manner,

00:05:56.580 in any manner at all. A list of former female MPs in his caucus calling him out for his

00:06:01.160 behavior is an embarrassment. Jody Wilson-Raybould was drummed out of cabinet and eventually the

00:06:05.680 party when she refused to bend to pressure to cut a deal with Liberal buddies SNC-Lavalin,

00:06:10.440 and that pressure was coming from the Prime Minister's office. She later released a book

00:06:13.760 called Indian in the Cabinet, where she documented Trudeau's mistreatment of others and herself at

00:06:18.700 length. In March of 2019, again, Cabinet Minister Jane Philpott resigned from Cabinet over Trudeau's

00:06:25.060 behavior. Trudeau said he respected her decision. Less than a month later, she was kicked out of the

00:06:29.260 entire Liberal caucus. Liberal MP Selena Cesar Chavanis said she'd been treated as a token

00:06:35.200 in Liberals Caucus, trotted out for, in her words, my blackness, to greet visiting black leaders,

00:06:40.640 but was otherwise ignored. When she told him she wouldn't seek re-election, he exploded, she said,

00:06:45.180 and accused her of failing to appreciate all he'd done for her. She says, he was speaking to me like

00:06:50.640 a child, like someone he happens to own. That's Trudeau. Who could forget his epic temper tantrum

00:06:57.060 when he raged across the floor of the House of Commons and elbowed NDP MP Ruthen Ellen Brasso

00:07:02.360 in the breast. Look up that video when you get a chance. You'll see a man totally out of control

00:07:06.540 of himself, who saw a woman in front of him as nothing more than an obstacle to be shoved

00:07:10.720 roughly out of the way. As a self-styled feminist, Trudeau has proven himself to be one of the worst 0.98

00:07:15.540 and most disrespectful leaders we've ever seen when it comes to women. As a person who considers 0.61

00:07:20.300 himself to be woke, he's the only Canadian politician who's ever been seen wearing black

00:07:24.640 face, not once, but multiple times. He's a serial blackface wearer. Wearer, is that a word? It works 0.92

00:07:30.980 all the same for him. Trudeau's fake is a three dollar bill. If he's not carefully guided and

00:07:35.620 scripted, the real Trudeau leaks out and it's ugly when we see it. Trudeau's lost control and rather

00:07:40.580 than trying to respond to these pressures through introspection, consultation and carefully crafted

00:07:46.100 policy, he's chosen to try and take dictatorial powers through the invocation of the Emergencies

00:07:51.140 Act. There's no need to suspend the civil rights of Canadians at this time. I don't like the idea

00:07:56.180 of any person being given unfettered power to override the rights of Canadians, whether it's

00:08:00.180 it's an emergency or not. Giving it to somebody like Justin Trudeau, though, this kind of power

00:08:04.100 is terrifying. Trudeau is far too shallow, angry, and unstable to wield such power responsibly.

00:08:10.620 He's not just stupid, but he is. He's dangerously so. He's shown no regard for the well-being of 1.00

00:08:16.900 fellow citizens once he deems them to be beneath him, and he seems to think just about everybody's

00:08:20.440 beneath him these days. Let's hope. He's blocked in his efforts to try and crush a peaceful protest

00:08:25.400 with the emergencies act if it isn't a precedent is going to be set and rest assured the little

00:08:30.920 tyrant won't hesitate to use such actions again we've got a few days to stop them guys let's hope

00:08:36.760 that we do okay that's what's got me triggered today a good one to get the blood pressure out

00:08:43.000 let's check in on the newsroom i'm sure there'll be a few other things that our news editor dave

00:08:46.920 naylor can tell us about that uh will get me triggered further hey dave how's it going over

00:08:50.440 there not too bad cory look i don't want to upset you any further i'm a bit worried about your

00:08:55.080 your blood pressure oh yes well i i get a cuff on after the show and triple check it and make

00:09:00.440 sure i'm keeping my sodium down and all that but awesome yeah we've got some good stuff uh if i do

00:09:05.880 say so myself on the the site this morning uh the lead story at the moment is a very emotional one

00:09:11.880 about a uh a manitoba dad who's also a trucker he's got a nine-year-old uh special daughter

00:09:20.120 or special needs daughter, excuse me, who's in palliative care. She's a very sick, sick young

00:09:27.160 girl. He's not vaccinated and he's not been able to go in and see her for months and months and 0.55

00:09:33.540 months now. So as a trucker, he went down to the Emerson blockade earlier in the week and helped

00:09:40.520 blockade that border crossing. Fighting for his freedoms, he says. He just wants to be able to

00:09:48.580 hold his little girl again and it's uh it's a very emotional story uh on a very emotional issue

00:09:53.780 so i urge everybody to uh to check that one out it's leading the site right now uh the most

00:10:01.080 ridiculous story of the week is also on the site now uh you remember the story about uh my pillow

00:10:08.000 ceo lindell being turned back at the border trying to bring 10 000 pillows into the country

00:10:14.620 for the truckers in Ottawa.

00:10:16.820 He didn't meet the COVID-19 entry requirements.

00:10:21.000 Now his plan is to take the 10,000 pillows

00:10:23.480 and drop them into Ottawa via helicopter,

00:10:28.060 believe it or not,

00:10:30.060 attached to tiny parachutes

00:10:32.280 that will slowly waft them through the sky

00:10:35.180 and land softly on Ottawa streets.

00:10:37.820 So he says it's going to happen.

00:10:40.840 It's not just a stunt,

00:10:42.080 But, you know, I'll believe it when I see that one.

00:10:45.860 The Liberals have snubbed Queen Elizabeth's 70th Platinum Jubilee this June.

00:10:54.200 She becomes the longest-serving monarch in history.

00:10:58.960 And while the governments of the day have issued medals for her last jubilees, the diamond and the golden, they're not doing it this time.

00:11:09.260 They urge Canadians to celebrate the Platinum Jubilee their own way.

00:11:15.660 No reason has been given for the medal snub.

00:11:22.140 Tamara Litch, the organizer of the Trucker Convoy down in Ottawa, posted a very emotional video saying that she expects to be behind bars by the end of the day and having her three square meals a day provided for her.

00:11:38.060 She's very emotional, still vowing not to leave, but you can go onto her site and watch that entire video there.

00:11:47.420 Obviously, we're all dealing with the Emergencies Act again today, Corey.

00:11:50.940 It's being debated in the Commons as we speak.

00:11:54.460 Whether it passes or not, it will be down to the NDP.

00:11:58.460 They hold the balance of power in a minority government.

00:12:02.340 The last time it was brought in, in 1970, the NDP and their leader then, Tommy Douglas, did not support it.

00:12:09.200 That was during the FLQ crisis, and the NDP is being pressured by the bloc not to join with the Liberals to get this motion passed.

00:12:20.420 So it's going to be an interesting vote. It may not happen until Monday, but we'll be keeping an eye on it.

00:12:28.160 And for something completely different, if you're tired of truckers and you just want to get away from it all for a while, our real estate guy, Mike Thomas, has an excellent feature on a house for sale in California, all yours for about a third of a billion dollars.

00:12:44.700 yeah it's 375 million canadian and the house has got to be got to be seen to believe

00:12:54.060 there's some pictures of it and a description of it in on the website this morning so yeah

00:13:00.620 lots of stuff for uh for the readers and viewers to check out uh this morning i don't want to give

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00:13:11.980 cory but uh yellowstone the the the television drama uh that's just so popular rating you know

00:13:20.060 top of the church one of their actors uh his name is forry smith he plays the crusty cowboy lloyd

00:13:27.820 and he's been nominated for a street screen actors guild award which the ceremony is next week

00:13:34.140 because he's unvaccinated he's not allowed to attend the ceremony so he's put out a video

00:13:39.740 statement uh in his cowboy duds explaining his uh his stand and why he won't be at the show so

00:13:46.620 mill resident is putting that together as we speak and it will be up shortly so yeah lots

00:13:51.420 of good stuff to come corey great thanks dave well always busy news days but i guess if it was dull

00:13:57.340 we wouldn't be able to stay in business so i appreciate you keeping on it and i'll let you

00:14:01.660 get back to it thanks corey take care thanks so yeah i'd love a house worth you know 300 and some

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00:16:36.680 that was brought up, maybe if Nico has it on deck, maybe we could play that video from Yellowstone.

00:16:41.940 Okay. So we're going to play that because I'm going to talk a little bit more about that and

00:16:44.960 how the, you know, we're seeing some interesting things. This is, I mean, people are huge fans of

00:16:48.500 that show. It's really big. And this fellow put out a statement about why he won't be attending

00:16:52.440 an awards ceremony and it ties into a much bigger issue so let's give this a watch hey i want to

00:16:58.760 apologize to y'all for not being at the screen actors guild awards i mean no offense to anyone

00:17:07.000 uh i i'm not vaccinated and it's a requirement to be vaccinated to be at the screen actors

00:17:14.760 of Guild Awards ceremony, have to be vaccinated with a booster shot and a negative COVID test

00:17:23.920 within 48 hours, and got to wear a K95, 62, 43, whatever kind of mask, and I'm not vaccinated,

00:17:38.140 I will not get vaccinated, I haven't been vaccinated since I was a little kid, I don't

00:17:44.040 vaccinate my dogs. I don't vaccinate my horses. I've never had a flu shot. I never will. I believe

00:17:52.600 they compromise your immunities. And man, I'm sorry. I'm sure looking forward to walking down

00:18:02.320 the red carpet in my big black American hat and my Justin boots and representing my culture and

00:18:08.760 heritage, but I'm not going to be able to do that. And I apologize to all y'all out there that are

00:18:16.660 part of my culture and heritage. I won't be representing us at the Screen Actors Guild Awards

00:18:23.300 walking down the red carpet. But it's no offense to anybody, anything. It's just my beliefs that

00:18:31.360 I don't get

00:18:34.080 I just don't believe in that

00:18:37.040 stuff

00:18:37.660 and

00:18:38.720 whatever

00:18:41.180 thank you all you all enjoy watching

00:18:44.840 the show anyway and maybe

00:18:46.780 next year

00:18:47.580 get down on that

00:18:49.240 thank you all God bless

00:18:52.860 if you do watch Yellowstone you can see

00:18:56.900 that's one of those examples and that's an interesting thing

00:18:58.740 with a lot of their cast members

00:19:00.080 they get a lot of real outright cowboys on there they aren't just uh career actor types and

00:19:05.820 everything i mean that guy's that's his real character that's who he is but what i want to

00:19:10.240 go into a little deeper what's bigger out of this whole thing is this is what's happening to people

00:19:15.260 i mean you can see it you can hear it from him you can hear from many others there are people

00:19:19.300 who do not want to be vaccinated and they are not going to everybody is willing to get vaccinated

00:19:24.020 has been vaccinated. It's done. It's done. Those who want to go get boosted are going to go get

00:19:29.900 boosted. Quit pressuring and ruining the lives of people who chose otherwise. This guy is giving up

00:19:36.560 a once in a lifetime opportunity to go to an awards show. You could tell he really wanted to

00:19:40.360 go to it. He loves his show. He loves his craft as an actor, but he won't go. He won't get

00:19:45.560 vaccinated to do it. As we were talking about, there's people who have difficulty seeing their

00:19:50.120 children because they're not going to get vaccinated and their children, the only way to

00:19:53.540 access them in palliative care is with a vaccination. There are people who have given

00:19:58.100 up their jobs all across the country because they don't want to get vaccinated. This is causing real

00:20:03.560 human harm and nothing is going to convince them otherwise. So accept that nothing will convince

00:20:10.320 them otherwise. Accept their choice, even if their choice differs from yours. Like that's where this

00:20:15.880 discussion, it needs to be shifting more and more that people should have this right to choose. We

00:20:23.420 can't be letting this carry on like this, chasing them around, villainizing them. I mean, again,

00:20:28.200 and vaccinated people, quit worrying about your neighbor. If you're vaccinated, good. I'm vaccinated.

00:20:33.040 I'm okay with it, but I'm okay with somebody else choosing not to. It's not that complicated,

00:20:37.320 or it shouldn't be. But now we have a prime minister. Boy, what a prime minister who would

00:20:44.640 rather invoke the Emergencies Act than even consider talking to protesters, respecting

00:20:51.360 protesters who want to see some unreasonable, I mean, that's what it all started with, unreasonable

00:20:55.760 vaccine mandates removed. They weren't asking. I mean, yeah, they point to some other people who

00:21:00.040 had these demands to pull them out of government and everything else. Look, the vast majority of

00:21:03.660 people there just want the mandates gone. They're done with it. But no, he's dug in his heels. It's

00:21:10.020 become more and more divisive and it's causing damage and it's harming people. So I've got a

00:21:15.440 guest here, Michael Wagner coming in. I might as well bring him on. He's been on before. It's always

00:21:19.780 great talking to him. Hey, Michael, thank you very much. I should explain to the audience,

00:21:23.960 you came on on a last minute notice. We had to do a schedule change. It's part of the fun of

00:21:27.740 being live. I was looking to grab you next week anyways, because I wanted to see what happened

00:21:30.900 after the weekend, but we can still talk today. Thanks for having me on, Corey. Can you hear me

00:21:35.480 property i do yeah you're coming in quite clearly great and uh i i mentioned it at the start of the

00:21:40.900 show and just that reminder so so michael's got a phd in political science he's from you're up in

00:21:45.560 edmonton still or yeah edmonton yes yes and uh you've been an author of a number of books and

00:21:50.260 definitely calling out quite uh strongly and in support of uh western independence particularly

00:21:54.960 alberta's and uh well i i always of course as an independent supporter appreciate your outlook

00:22:01.660 Thank you.

00:22:02.920 So I guess what I want to kind of tie in, though, we're seeing a country in crisis.

00:22:06.460 I mean, the nation is in a state like we've never seen in our adult lives.

00:22:11.680 We might see the Emergency Act declared.

00:22:16.100 There's no Western province aside from B.C., I guess, that supports the declaration of this.

00:22:20.540 Do you think this is going to entrench, you know, whenever this is all settled,

00:22:24.380 it'd have to be eventually more support for Western independence?

00:22:27.620 like i think it'll uh encourage those who already support it to support it more strongly i mean um

00:22:35.620 of course you know justin trudeau those of us in the independence movement we remember pierre trudeau

00:22:40.020 and the damage that he did to alberta and his son has really picked up the torch from his father

00:22:44.900 to continue to the damage to western canada so so many of us already supported independence even

00:22:49.540 before uh the emergencies act was declared and these various other things that trudeau is doing

00:22:53.860 you know are being done but I think this will help to cement the support among some independent

00:23:00.340 supporters you know to realize there's really no going back I mean Trudeau Justin Trudeau will

00:23:07.300 eventually you know retire or lose an election or something and what might get a better leader

00:23:11.060 for a little while but after after that period of time we'll end up with another person like

00:23:15.700 like a Justin Trudeau or Pierre Trudeau this is a cyclical kind of a thing you know sometimes we

00:23:21.060 we get reasonable leaders like Harper who are more favorable to the West, but it always returns

00:23:25.200 to another anti-Western leader. I mean, and when you see how bad some of these guys are, like

00:23:29.900 Justin Trudeau and Pierre Trudeau, what Justin is showing, you know, the kind of things he's doing

00:23:33.940 now, he's worse than we ever thought he was before. And we're just going to get more people

00:23:38.100 like this. I mean, you know, Mark Carney, who's considered to be one of the people who might

00:23:42.140 succeed or succeed Justin Trudeau, he had a column on the Globe and Mail last week, you know,

00:23:49.600 calling the protest a sedition and calling for, you know, a sharp crackdown on it.

00:23:55.220 So, you know, once Justin is gone, we'll get a Mark Carney or someone like that who's very much of the same mind.

00:24:00.420 The only way we can get away from these kind of leaders is for Alberta or for Western Canada, you know, to become independent.

00:24:06.340 So I think that people should be thinking that way.

00:24:09.140 You know, this crisis will, you know, will come to an end.

00:24:12.180 Justin Trudeau will eventually be gone, but we're going to end up eventually with someone just like him again.

00:24:16.260 So, you know, rather than continuing to go through these patterns of cyclical leaders from time to time who are very much opposed to Western Canadian interests, we really need to move toward becoming independent ourselves.

00:24:28.880 And that will give us an opportunity to select better leaders.

00:24:31.780 I mean, we won't always get good leaders.

00:24:33.200 That's just the way society works.

00:24:34.600 But I think this should emphasize to people that being connected to central Canada, where Justin Trudeau gets most of his votes, it's just going to bring Alberta down.

00:24:44.500 It's kind of like an anchor pulling us down.

00:24:46.080 So I think it should increase support for Western independence.

00:24:50.280 I sure hope so. 0.78

00:24:51.760 Yeah, well, as you say, it would certainly entrench the ones who are already there.

00:24:54.980 I don't think anybody, once they've crossed that line personally, they don't go back.

00:24:59.360 But it's the chance of new people examining it.

00:25:03.000 Like I think, as you're saying, you know, we can change out the face that's at the head of the government.

00:25:06.760 A lot of people now are looking at the government, realizing the system is broken.

00:25:10.280 So, I mean, it doesn't matter who you put in the front.

00:25:12.260 If the system is broken, they can and will abuse you.

00:25:15.000 and and people are examining the system with a critical eye again i think a lot of people

00:25:19.920 probably who never considered western independence and that sort of thing before but it's over this

00:25:23.860 whole you know mandates issue and then they'll start perhaps coming to the same conclusions that

00:25:28.320 we have like wow i i can't fix this broken engine it's got to be torn down and rebuilt

00:25:32.520 yeah and my impression too is like with the whole convoy idea i think started in the west

00:25:37.420 um and it started up here and then it caught on around across the country but but early on you

00:25:42.820 some of the eastern media was criticizing it for being like a western separatist thing or

00:25:46.180 or something along that line it was seen as some kind of a western protest movement and because

00:25:51.460 and i do think there is more support for this kind of thing in the west like there is a some

00:25:56.500 what of a cultural difference between western canada and eastern canada we have a more of a

00:26:01.140 a culture of protesting against the mainstream parties you know not just this convoy but other

00:26:05.540 things in the past like the reform party we are different and the only way that this difference

00:26:10.900 can really benefit us as if we have our own country if we can you know vote in our own leaders

00:26:16.500 rather than being tied to central canada because ultimately you know every federal government is

00:26:21.140 determined by the voters of central canada and as long as we're tied to them we're going to get

00:26:25.220 their kinds of leaders rather than the kinds of leaders that we want out here i mean our voting

00:26:29.220 patterns especially in the last well for many years actually alberta votes you know overwhelmingly

00:26:34.500 conservative and has for generations actually if you include the reform party and so on so uh we

00:26:40.020 would select very different leaders than the kind of leaders that are being selected in central

00:26:43.860 canada and so by being independent it would really give us an opportunity to get the kind of

00:26:48.340 leadership that we want rather than being put under the kind of leadership that central canada

00:26:52.740 wants to have yeah well and you know something else that came out from that as you said as the

00:26:57.300 convoy was starting to pick up steam and it started in the west it was moving and the establishment 0.56

00:27:01.860 at first tried to ignore it the usual thing you know the laurentian elites they just didn't want

00:27:05.220 to admit that this was happening once they realized this is starting to get big well one of the first

00:27:09.780 areas where they start shooting outwards was to dismiss it as a western thing and that shows a

00:27:14.340 little bit of the underlying attitude like if we could tell the rest of canadians though it's just

00:27:17.700 those westerners just just those westerners this isn't serious this isn't real we we shouldn't

00:27:22.340 give these guys the time of day again it helps exemplify that that attitude that we have from

00:27:27.780 the people who who manage this country right now yeah absolutely if something is seen as coming

00:27:33.220 from the west whether it's this convoy or like when the reform party started out it's just dismissed

00:27:38.260 as something not to be taken seriously it's just some kind of fringe minority you know that we

00:27:43.220 don't really have to take seriously but uh out here you know um these are the majority views

00:27:48.660 and so if we had our own uh country we would have a very different form of government you know in

00:27:53.460 terms of the kind of leadership that we'd have but but like you said i mean anything that's seen as

00:27:58.260 coming from the west or starting from the west is dismissed in central canada as not being something

00:28:03.220 to take credibly. Yeah, and our system is just so ill in so many ways. I used to work a lot in the

00:28:10.320 States. I'm going to be talking actually to an American political commentator a little later in

00:28:15.060 the show. And one of the things, you know, a few of the things when I would talk to them down there

00:28:18.660 that they'd just be staggered by, you know, with the parliamentary system, like, what do you mean

00:28:22.640 you don't elect senators? It's inconceivable to them. These are powerful people that you're

00:28:28.160 putting in a role of running your country and you don't get a chance to vote on them? No.

00:28:32.380 or fixed election dates. What do you mean the leader picks and chooses when an election is

00:28:37.300 going to be called? I mean, doesn't that give them a gross advantage? Yes, yes, it does. And

00:28:41.860 that's just a couple of the examples. But their system was born out of revolution. And it shows

00:28:46.800 because they built a lot of checks and balances to protect the citizens from the government as

00:28:51.600 opposed to kind of Canada, where it's the other way around. You know, people might realize that

00:28:55.600 the way to get a system that stands up more for the individual, for democracy, things like that

00:28:59.560 is how you know could come from a western independent state yeah definitely be very

00:29:05.400 different from the system now if we were independent but you know what's quite remarkable

00:29:09.560 about the american system in comparison to the canadian system there was a book written

00:29:12.840 actually about 40 years ago by professor roger gibbons at the university of calgary

00:29:16.760 he compared how the american system and the canadian system have evolved over time

00:29:21.480 what's interesting is the american system was originally designed to be very decentralized

00:29:25.640 the states had lots of power the federal government had relatively little power but over time the

00:29:31.320 federal government in the united states has increased its power in relation to the states

00:29:35.240 and part of this was because they had such a good method of regional representation the regions did

00:29:40.600 not feel threatened by the federal government you know because each state has two senators

00:29:45.320 and they're all you know each state has equal amount regardless of the population the states

00:29:49.400 themselves feel that they are properly represented within the central institution within the central

00:29:54.280 government where canada was actually originally designed to be more centralist but because we

00:30:00.520 didn't have any way to represent our regional interests in the federal government the provinces

00:30:07.000 became increasingly powerful over time so our representation would not be like senators in

00:30:12.760 central government it would be our premiers our premiers became our spokespersons rather than

00:30:16.920 having senators within the central institutions and that was an evolution that took place over

00:30:21.000 time. So that book by Roger Gibbons is quite interesting about how that evolved. And so

00:30:25.140 theoretically, you know, Canada would not have to have gone in the same kind of direction that it

00:30:30.400 has with the Western provinces being so underrepresented in the federal institutions.

00:30:35.120 We could have had a better system. But I mean, we're not going to get changed. The only way we

00:30:39.240 can get changed is by becoming independent. I mean, we've had various reform movements, you know,

00:30:43.880 in the West, like the Reform Party, the Tripoli Senate idea and so on. These are, as we just

00:30:48.220 mentioned earlier, they're dismissed because they are Western ideas. And so they're not taken

00:30:52.180 seriously in central Canada. We're not going to get those kinds of reforms that we would need to

00:30:56.060 have proper representation. So what we'd have to do is become independent and then we'll get the

00:31:00.880 kind of government that we can really rely on for the West. Yeah, well, and that's it. And we're

00:31:07.000 just, you know, further centralizing ourselves all the time because it's politically expedient

00:31:11.040 for the people who want to take power and this trend can't be turned around. And, you know,

00:31:15.460 there's that great irony that the countries are the least amount of, you know, separatist

00:31:20.920 movements are looking at, I don't even like that word, I should say, you know, independence

00:31:23.520 movements, though, are ones that decentralize power. Switzerland, you know, four languages,

00:31:28.120 26 cantons, you don't hear of any of those cantons trying to break away because they're

00:31:31.800 comfortable with their local independent governing. They're doing great. The Soviet

00:31:35.400 Union centralized power for decades by force. And I mean, as soon as they lost a bit of power,

00:31:40.580 it fell apart, and they went right back to being countries, you know, that this idea that you can

00:31:44.080 make a stronger, more unified country through centralizing power is always a failure.

00:31:49.680 That's right. And, you know, that really points to Alberta's situation because

00:31:52.920 as long as Alberta was a poor province, you know, Ottawa basically didn't pay a lot of attention.

00:31:59.020 It was when the oil prices went up in the 1970s, suddenly Pierre Trudeau was quite interested in

00:32:03.900 Alberta and interested in taking our resources away. You know, this was our, at the time in the

00:32:09.800 1970s, we didn't realize that oil was going to last so long. We thought it was going to be a

00:32:12.760 short-term thing. And so we as Albertans, like Peter Loughey, said we need to get as much money

00:32:17.780 out of this as we can right now because we're going to run out of oil and we need to build for

00:32:21.040 the future. We have to diversify our economy. So when Pierre Trudeau came in and artificially

00:32:25.800 pushed down the price of oil and also put on some illegal taxes to take the money,

00:32:30.740 that reduced the amount of money that Alberta could accumulate for the future.

00:32:35.460 And that was because, I mean, if we had been more centralized or decentralized, if we'd had more

00:32:39.460 power over our resources he could not have done that and it's the same uh or a similar situation

00:32:44.020 with justin trudeau he wants to shut down our oil industry for you know the purpose of preventing

00:32:48.660 climate change if we were more decentralized and had uh well we were theoretically we have power

00:32:54.740 over our natural resources but somehow he's using you know these uh the climate taxes and so on that

00:33:00.100 are being supported by the supreme court that's that's violating our you know regional autonomy

00:33:05.540 or our provincial autonomy as Albertans and it's it's it's leading to increasing centralization

00:33:10.020 as you say it's it's because they're exercising these centralist power centralizing powers that

00:33:14.580 Alberta is being damaged and if we had a more decentralized system where Alberta could you know

00:33:20.420 take advantage of our resources without the federal government trying to shut us down or trying to

00:33:24.740 take our money it you know might be possible for Alberta to remain within Canada and still thrive

00:33:29.780 but but that's not the way the system is and so we need to become independent if we want to thrive

00:33:34.740 Yeah well in the Supreme Court system you know and the appointments there and such again show that

00:33:39.060 it's not a good and valid checker balance for regional freedoms when the time comes. I mean

00:33:44.180 it's still dominated by the center and it's going to rule that way. It's not a place for

00:33:49.300 we can't look for relief from them I'm afraid. Actually that's a really good point. In Canada

00:33:53.780 the Supreme Court justices are appointed by the Prime Minister himself. So he's going to appoint

00:33:57.700 justices who are you know lean his way with with regard to you know its regional issues and so on

00:34:03.940 in the united states the supreme court justices have to face the senate they have to be confirmed

00:34:08.340 by the senate so they have to be voted on you know by senators from uh from states that have

00:34:13.300 very small populations like wyoming or idaho anyway they can't just uh choose a centralist

00:34:19.700 um supreme court justice and assume he's going to get through because he has to face

00:34:23.620 the sub-Senate vote and that's completely different from Canada where the Prime Minister

00:34:28.020 gets to select you know the nominee and the Supreme Court Justice so the Prime Minister

00:34:32.500 can select the most centralist Justice he wants and there's going to be you know nobody who can

00:34:36.500 stop him whereas in the United States senators could stop him if they wanted to the nominee.

00:34:42.180 Yeah we terribly lack checks and balances and I mean we're in such a tumultuous time I'm just

00:34:46.900 trying to mean I'm really worried for the weekend what's going to happen over there and as these

00:34:50.740 days pass but I mean I'm just hoping I guess if any positive can come out of all of this mess 1.00

00:34:56.920 Canadians who are typically docile we're seeing that they've been less docile than ever lately 0.96

00:35:01.420 but now we'll actually start re-examining their system looking with a critical eye at it like we

00:35:06.140 can learn from this in hindsight and maybe actually make positive change going forward I mean

00:35:10.660 they're being exposed to how broken our system is in a direct way like they've never seen before

00:35:15.820 yeah that's for sure the system is broken it doesn't work for Alberta it hasn't worked for

00:35:20.120 Alberta for decades. And I'll just keep beating my drum here that the solution for these problems,

00:35:26.540 you know, whether it's the problems of the 1970s or the problems of climate change policies or the

00:35:30.740 problems of Trudeau enacting the Emergencies Act, the solution to all these is for Alberta to become

00:35:35.460 independent. Well, you won't get an argument out of me there. Before I let you go, then where can

00:35:40.140 we find the books you've written on this and keep track of what you're up to there, Michael?

00:35:44.220 Well, thank you for asking. My most recent book is this one, No Other Option.

00:35:50.120 self-determination for Alberta this is available on amazon.ca as well as a local Alberta business

00:35:56.840 called merchant ship.ca and my previous book on Alberta separatism or Alberta independence movement

00:36:03.480 this was is a history of the movement and it is available on at the website of merchant shop

00:36:09.640 merchant ship sorry merchant ship.ca if you search my name there or search Alberta this will come up

00:36:14.760 merchantship.ca that's a local Alberta business that sells homeschooling other and education

00:36:21.480 materials so the books are available on those two places so hopefully people will be interested in

00:36:27.480 this topic yeah thank you for putting up the graphic oh yeah no Nico does an awesome job

00:36:31.560 when you see stuff I mean this guy is on it so yes thank you Nico and thank you very much Michael

00:36:37.000 I'm sure hope some folks get out and yes they're great books I've read them both well I'm quite

00:36:42.200 quite familiar, particularly with that first one. And yeah, we're looking forward to talking to you

00:36:47.360 again and seeing how things develop. Great. Thank you so much for having me on. It's great to talk

00:36:51.200 to you, Corey. Great. Thanks, Michael. Have a good one. It's just a reminder, it's Michael Wagner. And

00:36:56.840 yes, he's been a very well-spoken and diligent person promoting independence and, you know,

00:37:02.200 reasoning, laying it out why and how we have to get there and what has to be done and the history

00:37:07.100 of it, as he said in his first book, which included even a naive 29-year-old Independence

00:37:12.920 Party leader back at the end of the 90s who tried to make his go of it there at that time.

00:37:16.840 It's been an ongoing thing, and that's part of it. We need to read that history of it so we don't

00:37:19.740 keep running in circles with this movement and not getting somewhere. Let's learn from our past

00:37:24.680 efforts and move forward. So again, maybe we'll get a bit of a positive out of these crazy times

00:37:29.820 right now, and that'll be, I think, an increased push to change the system, and I don't see any

00:37:34.720 other way to change the system aside from a country breaking out. If people want to try and

00:37:38.780 convince me that we can get the formula for provinces and people together to actually rewrite

00:37:42.780 the constitution, by all means, let's have that debate. But I lived through Charlottetown and

00:37:46.080 Meech Lake and it didn't look like there was a hope and those changes weren't even big enough.

00:37:50.220 So before I get on to my next guest, I do want to talk then about what's going on in Canada.

00:37:54.060 We're being internationally embarrassed from our prime minister. And yeah, I mentioned it

00:38:01.460 earlier in my rant, you know, Trudeau referring across the house, trying to label a Jewish person

00:38:06.540 as a Nazi supporter. I mean, you have to hear his words for himself. So we should have the video on

00:38:11.300 deck. And we'll play that from the House of Commons. It's only a minute or two. And you can

00:38:15.960 see the question asked and Trudeau's response. And we're going to talk about that.

00:38:19.360 Mistake, hopeful vision for public life isn't a naive dream. It can be a powerful force for

00:38:24.540 change. If Canadians are to trust their government, their government needs to trust Canadians.

00:38:28.620 Those are the words of the Prime Minister in 2015.

00:38:32.680 These people, very often misogynistic, racist, women haters, science deniers, the fringe.

00:38:39.420 Same Prime Minister, six years later, as he fans the flames of an unjustified national emergency.

00:38:46.280 So, Mr. Speaker, when did the Prime Minister lose his way?

00:38:50.080 When did it happen?

00:38:50.840 Mr. Speaker, Conservative Party members can stand with people who wave swastikas.

00:39:01.700 They can stand with people who wave, but they can fight or cry.

00:39:05.460 We will choose to stand with Canadians who deserve to be able to get to their jobs,

00:39:10.820 who will be able to get their lives back.

00:39:13.020 These illegal protests need to stop, and they will, Mr. Speaker.

00:39:17.620 Thank you.

00:39:20.840 I just want to remind the Honorable Members, including the Right Honorable Prime Minister,

00:39:33.000 to use words that are not inflammatory in the House, and that's for both sides.

00:39:40.840 Unbelievable. You know, it's just unbelievable. And you can see why the House exploded,

00:39:45.640 because most of them there were smarter than our moron of a Prime Minister. They knew 1.00

00:39:49.380 he was addressing and what he had said. If you looked at the background, you watched those kinds

00:39:52.900 of things. Normally, the other liberal backbenchers will all stand up and clap and cheer them on. You

00:39:58.460 saw one or two get up, but mostly even the liberals realized, oh my God, the moron leading me just 1.00

00:40:03.420 implied that a Jewish member is a Nazi. Now, you got to think of just how grossly offensive and 0.99

00:40:10.900 insensitive that is. Her name is Melissa Lantzman. She's been an active member of the Jewish 1.00

00:40:15.220 community politically for some time. I mean, that's where she cut her teeth and got into

00:40:18.380 politics as a member of parliament. Trudeau probably never paid attention to any of her 0.92

00:40:22.020 work because she is a woman. He doesn't really care or think much of a woman. We've established

00:40:25.580 that. But maybe you should have realized even her name, Lanceman, she wasn't Irish. And it doesn't

00:40:32.540 matter even if she wasn't Jewish. That statement was repugnant. Nobody was standing with swastika 0.99

00:40:38.960 flags aside from one weird one in the background that nobody's ever been able to determine what

00:40:42.440 it is. But that's what the leader of this country, this irresponsible twit, is using. And it's making 0.99

00:40:48.180 international news. Now, Fox News interviewed Lanceman last night. And we'll pull out that

00:40:54.020 image and check out the caption they put on the screen while they talk to Melissa Lanceman. It

00:40:58.880 says, blackface enthusiast equates support of truckers with support of swastikas. You know, 0.98

00:41:04.760 I mean, it's good in tongue in cheek. It's funny. He's a blackface enthusiast. It's showing the

00:41:08.580 hypocrisy of this idiot prime minister we have, you know, and showing his own intolerance with 1.00

00:41:14.640 this, but you've got to remember, this is Fox News. Americans are watching this, guys. We should be 1.00

00:41:19.320 embarrassed. This is going across the country, around the world, and they're laughing at us

00:41:24.600 because we've put this clown at the head of our country, and we've given him the power and ability

00:41:31.080 to invoke the War Measures Act, which is now called the Emergencies Act. He is suspending 0.76

00:41:36.660 civil rights in this country, a man of such a sick nature, as I talked about before, 0.91

00:41:42.360 and he is now making national news where they make fun of, yes, the black face aficionado, 0.88

00:41:48.840 they don't even refer to the prime minister. We're stuck with this fool. You know, Jagmeet Singh 1.00

00:41:54.600 is the only one holding him in power right now in a sense because he needs, Trudeau needs the

00:42:01.380 support of the NDP to get the emergencies act through. And as Dave was saying, it might not

00:42:04.820 even be till Monday till they get that vote now. There's still time to get out of this act.

00:42:09.900 And even a Bloc MP heckled Singh about this, saying, you know, think carefully before voting for this Emergencies Act.

00:42:19.080 Because of how dangerous it is, the Bloc certainly knows.

00:42:21.540 Quebec was not happy with the invocation of this in the first place.

00:42:25.980 So we can get out of this. It doesn't have to come in yet.

00:42:29.700 But I don't know. I don't have much faith in Jagmeet Singh actually caring about citizens.

00:42:34.980 But again, as I was talking about with Michael, you know, Americans are aghast.

00:42:38.340 they don't understand. How are you letting your country be taken over like this? How are you

00:42:42.600 letting your entire country go under what is a form of martial law over what is now just a number

00:42:48.560 of protesters in Ottawa? Could you imagine if there was a big protest in Washington? I think there is

00:42:52.820 just about every month or so. If the president suddenly said, we're going to declare a national

00:42:58.120 state of emergency and suspend civil rights for the entire country. We're going to seize bank

00:43:03.040 accounts from people. We're going to steal their money. We are going to force labor. We're going

00:43:08.020 to bring tow truck drivers and charge them if they refuse to participate with us in clearing

00:43:12.740 out the protest, they wouldn't even consider it. It's not even a thought. Yet here we are.

00:43:19.380 You know, when we're talking about constitutional change, as I was talking about Michael's hard,

00:43:22.400 the way to get constitutional change in Canada, if we were to do it, you need the support of seven

00:43:27.600 provinces representing over 50% of the population to do it. And of course, you see that never quite

00:43:32.740 happens because you know, if Quebec isn't in or something, you just won't get the numbers high

00:43:37.340 enough, and you won't be able to pull it off. Well, seven out of 10 provinces right now oppose

00:43:43.480 Trudeau in his strive and his grab to bring in martial law in Canada. Seven out of 10. The only

00:43:51.240 ones that support him are the Socialists next door in BC with Premier Horgan, and Newfoundland's

00:44:00.120 Premier supports this move, and of course Ford, who has been a terrific disappointment, is supporting

00:44:07.140 it in Ontario. But aside from that, all seven of the other provinces say, Prime Minister Trudeau,

00:44:14.220 you do not need to impose this act. We don't need it. It's an overreach. It's too far.

00:44:21.680 But he won't back down. He digs his heels in. Like I said, this whole becoming a laughingstock

00:44:27.040 over his stunt in the house, and as somebody was saying, he just keeps walking out of question

00:44:31.000 periods now. He can't face it. It's too weak. He can't think on his feet. You saw what happens

00:44:35.600 when he tries to think on his feet. But he won't even apologize. Like, dude, you screwed up. Just

00:44:40.560 apologize. Look what you've said, what you've done. Instead, it's making news all over North

00:44:45.080 America and probably the world. And this guy is too stubborn, too sociopathic to say, I'll back 0.67

00:44:52.420 off. And even now, I mean, we're going to see action on the protests this weekend. I think

00:44:57.220 it's getting pretty clear. You know, the police are massing, they're gathering, and they're

00:45:03.800 probably going to move. You know, as Dave was talking about, Tamera Litch, one of the organizers

00:45:07.840 is pretty confident she's going to be arrested in the next couple of days. We'll see.

00:45:12.660 And whatever happens, this is before the act is even

00:45:15.740 implemented. You know, the borders were cleared without the act.

00:45:20.720 Those protests were stopped. We don't need this.

00:45:23.940 We don't need this rebranded War Measures Act coming in. But Trudeau has

00:45:27.860 now made it a point of pride, and he would rather rip this country to shreds, and that's what he's

00:45:31.880 doing, then back off on a line he's drawn in the sand with our rights. What a scary place to be

00:45:39.900 in a scary thought, and unimaginable in most countries that respect and understand the need

00:45:46.820 for freedoms individually and collectively. I've got a video at the end of the show I'm going to

00:45:51.300 play too, and that's from Dave Rubin, and we'll play it right at the very end. It's a few minutes

00:45:54.480 long. I think, I'm not sure if he made it, but he did post it, and it covers, it's just something

00:46:00.500 of a parody video but also it's an american thing and again it drives home what they're seeing what

00:46:04.500 they're thinking when they're looking at what's going on up here because it's beyond the pale and

00:46:10.180 we just uh unimaginable i don't know what it takes and as i've been saying before too i'm going to

00:46:16.420 protests in calgary this weekend there's one at one o'clock saturday at memorial park downtown

00:46:21.540 if you go searching you know and again legal protest i'm not going to go out and do left-wing

00:46:25.700 style protest i don't plan on tipping over police cars or throwing rocks or smashing windows or

00:46:29.540 or intimidating people or all the good stuff of a progressive protest. But I want to be there to

00:46:33.540 add to the numbers and say, look, our rights are being infringed on. Let's back off. Let's get it

00:46:39.100 over with. Let's drop these mandates. Let's stop it. It's been two years. We've done what we can. 0.99

00:46:44.980 Doesn't mean science has to stop working on better medications and improving the vaccinations,

00:46:50.480 but we've got to get on with life. People's lives are being ruined by this. And that's what's

00:46:55.180 driving them out to these protests. That's what's adding to the urgency of this on the part of other

00:47:00.720 Canadians. Shutting this down through force is not going to stop it. The best they could do is

00:47:06.060 scatter them out of Ottawa, and these guys are going to spring up in other places. And things

00:47:09.620 can get dangerous. And we don't need to. We don't. We just need to drop some mandates. And Trudeau

00:47:16.180 hasn't given even an inch on this so far. Not even an inch. It would be so easy just to drop some

00:47:23.980 bloody mandates. You are putting our country under the War Measures Act before you would even

00:47:30.980 remove a mandate for vaccination upon truckers that is serving no reasonable purpose. I mean,

00:47:37.500 what a hill to die on. And we're all paying the price for that. And unfortunately, his socialist

00:47:42.960 ally, Jagmeet Singh, is probably going to give him support on Monday and he'll pass that bill.

00:47:48.100 it's terrifying i never you know i haven't had much faith in the canadian system for a long time

00:47:54.080 anyways but i mean i i never thought we would get to this point again you know the emergencies act

00:48:00.320 this war measures act again i'll keep calling it that i know it drives the liberal supporters nuts

00:48:04.080 but hey i'm gonna call it what it is because by definition it's martial law it's suspending the

00:48:09.600 civil rights of citizens for an emergency and what is it 400 people in ottawa you're gonna

00:48:15.420 seize my bank account over that, potentially. You can arrest people on the spot. You can stop

00:48:24.000 gatherings. You can infringe on our civil rights. This is what he's bringing in. It's a precedent

00:48:31.040 that we can't abide by. And again, it's making international news. People have been talking

00:48:36.540 about it. They're dumbstruck with it. And so am I. We've got to get out of this one way or another.

00:48:44.940 And as I was talking about with the mandates, you know, the people who were planning to get vaccinated, they did it.

00:48:51.340 So let's start to get a little bit pragmatic here.

00:48:54.820 Let's start to get a little realistic here and see where we can move back.

00:48:59.360 Maybe, maybe some people in Trudeau's caucus will offer a bit of reason, try to calm this man down.

00:49:06.520 He really appears to have lost his marbles and get him to back off on this invocation of this act.

00:49:13.460 I mean, I know not every liberal MP supports this.

00:49:16.940 There's no way they would want to do this.

00:49:19.240 And there, Nico brought it up.

00:49:20.320 So before I get on to the guest here, this is the text from the Emergency Act.

00:49:23.260 I'm going to read it for the podcast listeners because this does not, this is what the bar

00:49:28.660 is for setting it yet.

00:49:29.620 And we definitely are not in this place.

00:49:32.000 So it says, A, seriously endangers the lives, health, or safety of Canadians and is of such

00:49:37.860 proportions or nature as to exceed the capacity or authority of a province to deal with it.

00:49:43.060 or seriously threatens the ability of the government of Canada to preserve sovereignty,

00:49:46.600 security, and territorial integrity of Canada. Those are the two reasons why this act could

00:49:52.720 potentially be invoked. Neither of those things are happening right now, not even close. We've

00:49:58.800 had three weeks of protests with tens of thousands of people and no violence. This is unprecedented

00:50:03.520 in how peaceful it is. And there is nobody threatening the territory. Like, see, those

00:50:08.440 things were put in in case we were being invaded. This was in case the aliens were landing, or this

00:50:12.400 in case our American neighbors did suddenly get expansionist and decide to come up and

00:50:16.240 try and take a province or something, which wouldn't be so bad these days, I think.

00:50:21.040 Either way, speaking of our American neighbors, I'm going to bring a great one in, and that's

00:50:25.660 Spike Cohen. He's in the lobby there, and we're going to have a good talk. Hey, Spike, thank you

00:50:30.240 very much for joining us today. Absolutely. Thank you for having me. And no, we have no,

00:50:34.920 as far as I know, anyway, we have no plans to invade. No, no, you don't want this.

00:50:42.400 but uh i'll give a bit of background on you too i mean you've been quite uh you know visible in

00:50:49.560 social media and a lot of media throughout the states uh you ran as a vice presidential candidate

00:50:54.300 for the libertarian party of the united states uh i'm gonna have the leader of the libertarian

00:50:58.300 party of canada on tomorrow but our version of the party isn't nearly as well developed as you

00:51:02.360 guys down there so i hope we can learn from you guys and get a better liberty movement going on

00:51:07.280 up here as you can see we really need it yes yes it definitely so one thing that i i don't know if

00:51:13.380 this was mentioned before uh i i came on to wait for for my segment but uh this is inadvertently

00:51:19.980 causing a run on the banks uh because part of this uh emergencies act or war powers act whatever

00:51:25.860 it used to be called uh being invoked one of the things is that they're going to try to find anyone

00:51:30.740 who has given any kind of monetary help to the Freedom Convoy,

00:51:36.320 whether they donated on GoFundMe or GiveSendGo

00:51:39.480 or whatever the other site is,

00:51:41.240 or any other possible construing of giving monetary support to them,

00:51:45.980 which is causing people to pull their money out of the banks.

00:51:49.400 And of course, because you have the same type

00:51:51.200 of fractional reserve banking system we do,

00:51:53.700 for every dollar that's actually in the bank,

00:51:57.120 there's actually uh as much as a hundred or more dollars out in circulation uh so you know or the

00:52:03.920 money that they're holding that the banks claim to hold there's only about maybe a dollar being held

00:52:08.800 um so it's not easy it's not hard to have a run on the banks typically they have just enough to

00:52:14.400 keep what is a typical expected amount of withdrawals in in circular in their in their

00:52:19.680 holdings but uh this could potentially cause a bank run which is going to cause a whole other

00:52:24.400 set of issues especially during all the other uh problems that are going on in canada yeah as if

00:52:29.120 we didn't have enough economic issues going on with this whole pandemic uh that we just posted

00:52:33.680 record inflation numbers again which are just chilling with how fast that's there but everybody

00:52:37.440 saw it coming i mean you're printing money like crazy you're spending like crazy any any economist

00:52:42.400 worth their salt's gonna say hey guys you're gonna get inflation and of course they're all pretending

00:52:46.160 they're shocked by it now yeah but as always who would have thought that they'd come in and actually

00:52:51.360 Actually, that's what they're looking to do is to steal your money.

00:52:53.740 They want to come into the banks and take your money.

00:52:55.900 Of course, people are moving it and pulling it out as fast as they can.

00:52:59.480 And it's going to have consequences far deeper than they think.

00:53:03.480 Oh, there's many different examples of this.

00:53:05.560 Now, I realize that the honking and the bouncy castles are a threat to the very sovereignty and integrity of the Canadian nation.

00:53:12.340 But I do think that there could have been other ways to deal with this.

00:53:15.000 One thing that keeps sticking out is Justin Trudeau kept saying every option is on the table.

00:53:20.260 Well, clearly that's not the case, Justin, because there is one option that completely ends all of this and would actually have you hailed by the people that are protesting as well as a good sizable portion of the country and probably have little to no effect at this point on the course of the virus or the pandemic.

00:53:41.020 And that's just ending the mandates. If you believe that these vaccines are an effective way of stopping or slowing the pandemic, something like 80, 85 percent of Canadians are already vaccinated and something like 90 percent of the truckers are vaccinated.

00:53:56.920 mission accomplished at that point right i mean unless you're saying that you need that extra

00:54:01.080 eight percent to get vaccinated or else it's all for naught uh and of course if you don't believe

00:54:06.180 uh that the the vaccines are helpful then and you know it doesn't matter the mandate's not

00:54:11.200 effective either but either way there's no need for a mandate unless of course you want to you

00:54:16.060 know plunge the country into further turmoil at a time of record high inflation at a time of it's

00:54:22.680 funny talking about this it's literally everything we have going here minus the protests but the

00:54:27.500 inflation and everything else it's the exact same thing yeah but i mean one thing that you guys do

00:54:32.680 have a state side is a i was talking to a a political scientist actually prior to you as a

00:54:37.800 guest is uh checks and balances like you were a nation built on a revolution so you had a lot of

00:54:42.560 things built into your constitution to ensure that people were protected from the government

00:54:46.680 we unfortunately sort of evolved out of the feudal system into the parliamentary system and it still

00:54:51.300 kind of keeps the state as being the supreme body and we have to fight for our rights. And it puts

00:54:56.440 us in a terrible position in times like right now. Absolutely. We're seeing that play out,

00:55:00.700 right? The reason we don't have some of the stronger vaccine mandates that Canada has and

00:55:06.840 other countries have is precisely because the states or many of the states fought against it,

00:55:12.200 took it to court, the courts blocked it. So there's many checks and balances, not just within

00:55:16.820 the federal system, but then also within the interaction between the states and the federal

00:55:22.980 government. On the flip side of that, though, is Canada doesn't have nearly the brutal militarized

00:55:28.300 police state that the U.S. has, or at least not the same numbers that the U.S. has. So whereas

00:55:33.640 we don't have the same types of restrictions being put in place, if we were to have this

00:55:39.080 kind of a a even a peaceful protest uh against you know a nationwide uh attempt to blockade and

00:55:46.960 protest uh this would be put down very quickly and a lot of people would disappear for several

00:55:52.000 weeks um so it's it's one of those best of time worst of time things but yes this is a perfect

00:55:57.720 example of the more you can frustrate government within itself and have it fighting with itself

00:56:02.900 over, you know, what powers it can and can't have, and actually incentivize politicians

00:56:08.480 to grandstand against each other instead of us, that's a better system. And yeah, that does

00:56:14.460 indicate that government's not a really good way of doing things, but it is what it is. The more

00:56:18.600 you can have it frustrate within itself, the better for the people. Yeah, well, and I was

00:56:23.100 saying earlier, I'm hoping that maybe out of this chaotic mess, we'll finally get the more critical

00:56:27.000 discussion on our system as a whole, because a lot of it's failed on many, many levels right now.

00:56:31.400 And yeah, your point's very good. Like one of the issues I think that led to the panic, and it is panic, I think, on the part of the prime minister as well, is that they realized they couldn't quell the situation in Ottawa that, you know, the Ottawa police chief saying, we've got all the officers we can, they're on overtime, they're tired out. And we have a microscopic military force. So I mean, even if they wanted to, they didn't really have the logistical means to be able to bring this under control.

00:56:55.740 and they still don't even imposing this act

00:56:58.420 they're just hoping that if they can abuse citizens

00:57:00.500 economically and now

00:57:02.260 they've leaked, of course our state

00:57:04.440 broadcaster has been leaking the

00:57:06.460 information of people who donated to

00:57:08.600 those GoFundMe accounts

00:57:10.260 and they're starting to be publicly shamed

00:57:11.740 it's a frightening scene we've got going on up here

00:57:14.300 It is very frightening

00:57:15.940 there's something I say very often

00:57:17.460 it's a common refrain of mine

00:57:18.660 government power doesn't actually exist

00:57:21.100 there's what the people are willing to tolerate

00:57:22.920 and especially in a country like Canada

00:57:25.220 that doesn't have as large and, let's say, robust of a militarized police state

00:57:30.240 that exists in the U.S. and in China and many other countries as well,

00:57:34.320 in even greater degrees or greater proportions, they can't stop the convoy.

00:57:40.920 Like, literally, there's no violence happening.

00:57:43.260 There's no revolution happening.

00:57:45.200 There's literal bouncy houses and bounce castles and children playing in the streets.

00:57:50.320 This is about as Canadian of a revolution as I've ever seen.

00:57:53.720 I have to joke, you know, we joke that, you know, Canadians are polite to a degree we can't even understand.

00:57:59.840 And here it is playing out. But in all reality, this is a this is not a violent takeover or an insurrection or anything like that.

00:58:08.280 It's like you said, tens of thousands of people saying, no, we're not going to leave.

00:58:12.780 And the government is utterly powerless to stop that.

00:58:15.520 And I'm not sure that the addition of the RCMP into this or the Canadian military is going to provide the numbers that they need to be able to do that. 0.92

00:58:25.760 I think they're banking on enough of the Freedom Convoy people just getting scared and stopping.

00:58:31.580 If they were going to get scared and stop, I think most of them probably would have already.

00:58:35.700 So I think that this is going to potentially backfire in showing the entire rest of Canada that now you actually can just resist the government.

00:58:44.320 There's not a heck of a lot they can do about it to you as a collective, maybe to individuals they can make examples out of.

00:58:50.660 But that's going to have repercussions for your overall crime rate.

00:58:55.340 A lot of common criminals are watching this.

00:58:57.020 Violent criminals are watching this and saying, I guess we can do whatever we want.

00:59:00.240 We don't have to be nearly as concerned as we used to be.

00:59:02.820 And a lot of just everyday Canadians who typically just comply with a bunch of stuff that doesn't usually make sense to them just because it's the easier way to do it.

00:59:10.740 they're looking around and saying, well, if they don't have to obey, why should I have to obey?

00:59:14.960 There are many repercussions, both good and bad, that are going to come when an increasing number

00:59:19.900 of Canadians realize government has no real power other than the consent of what they're willing to

00:59:25.940 put up with. And that has all sorts of potential ramifications for the immediate and the future.

00:59:32.980 Yeah, well, a symbol of how many Canadians stood up, and it's getting understated a lot,

00:59:37.260 is I mean well over a hundred thousand people individuals donated to those fundraising accounts

00:59:42.200 actually it's getting into the hundreds of thousands and in a nation of 30 some million

00:59:46.080 people that's very significant I think it was it wasn't even the dollars so much they didn't like

00:59:50.880 that symbol showing this is much bigger than just the few people on that hill because some people

00:59:54.500 they couldn't afford they don't have the time or the means to get out to a protest but they want

00:59:57.880 to support it they're upset too so they said well I'm going to toss them a few bucks and now like I

01:00:01.980 said, we have the state-owned CBC that is actually doxing people who donated to it. You know,

01:00:08.740 somebody hacked the site and got the names of people and companies that donated. Like this

01:00:13.040 country is getting divided, you know, neighbor on neighbor, family member to family member.

01:00:18.460 It's, and our prime minister just keeps throwing fuel on the fire every time he gets an opportunity.

01:00:22.720 I mean, he won't hesitate to call everybody who supports this movement a Nazi. He even called a

01:00:27.920 Jewish member of parliament that yesterday, which he won't apologize for. I, of course not. I, I fear 0.93

01:00:34.340 for, for where we are going. I really do. Well, he has created a hill and it appears he wishes to

01:00:41.500 proverbially or die on it. I'm not saying literally die on it, but, but he's certainly

01:00:46.380 found his hill that he wants to fight on. And that hill is that this is a fringe minority of people

01:00:51.800 with unacceptable views almost all of whom are racist and nazis and homophobes and i remember 0.88

01:00:58.140 he put out something about homophobia transphobia and anti-semitism and that that was condemned 0.63

01:01:03.460 uh by what was being done by the by the convoy and i said who's even brought up trans people

01:01:09.740 during this like he just threw out every phobia or ism he could against this and and but the

01:01:15.980 narrative has always been this is a small exceedingly fringe minority well if that's the

01:01:20.920 case why can't the entire government of canada stop them and yes of a percentage of the canadian

01:01:27.580 population that's actually out there you know refusing to leave yes that's a small minority

01:01:33.460 but that's true of protests in general and this has been going on for weeks and the sheer amount

01:01:38.280 of support that they've been getting yeah this is fringe minority is not what this is um and and

01:01:44.200 what's been very striking to me is that you know the part of the narrative has been including in

01:01:48.960 the U.S. against this has been, well, 90% of the truckers are vaccinated. So clearly that means

01:01:54.260 that, you know, the vast majority of truckers are against this and the vast majority of Canadians

01:01:59.260 are against this. Well, most of them were coerced into doing so. So you're saying, oh, well, you

01:02:05.460 know, 80% of this population complied with being forced to do something. Surely they're not against

01:02:10.640 being forced to do something. I think we've seen that a lot of the people that are out here are

01:02:15.060 saying I'm vaccinated. Some of them are even saying I chose to get vaccinated, but this needs

01:02:20.080 to be a choice. People need to be able to make informed consenting decisions on whether or not

01:02:25.060 to get vaccinated or any other health decision. This is a personal decision. You know, we, this

01:02:29.420 is a perfect example of a fight for bodily autonomy. And I, even my opinion about the

01:02:35.720 vaccine is irrelevant that we should support people's bodily autonomy. Well, it comes down

01:02:40.460 to the Liberty issue. That that's, that's where it goes. You're the ideal guest to talk about

01:02:44.040 with that. And I'm one of those, I support this convoy. I love seeing citizens standing up and

01:02:48.180 pushing back and I'm vaccinated. I chose to be. And I never for a second want it to be not a

01:02:54.460 choice for somebody else. And don't you dare try to speak on my behalf and say, I don't support

01:02:58.700 that convoy. I will speak for myself on that. And lots of people do. And even of those, you know,

01:03:03.260 what, 10%, 15% of Canadians who've chosen not to become vaccinated. Well, that amounts to millions

01:03:08.200 of people. So as a national leader, to dismiss such a large segment of your population, to

01:03:14.420 villainize such a large segment, to divide them, that is terribly irresponsible. And that's not

01:03:19.800 doing your job. Yeah, it is. And it's increasingly on anti-scientific terms, which is ironic because

01:03:26.600 all they ever say is, you know, data and science. Well, data and science shows us, from what I've

01:03:31.420 seen, that the vaccine is safe and it is, or generally safe, and it is generally effective

01:03:36.240 in preventing severe illness. The Omicron variant has proven that vaccination rates are not going to

01:03:41.880 have anything to do with whether this virus sticks around or not. If the Delta variant hadn't helped

01:03:46.700 drive that home, the Omicron variant breaking all previous records for case numbers in North

01:03:52.720 America and around the globe, despite the highest levels of vaccination we've ever had, it doesn't

01:03:58.640 stop the pandemic. And so the argument that it's a public health issue and you're a bad person if

01:04:05.180 you don't do it and you know we need to force people to do this in order to stop the pandemic

01:04:09.520 that patently false you are well past the canadian population and the trucker population especially

01:04:15.920 is well past any number that would cause herd immunity if the vaccine was actually going to

01:04:21.360 stop covid stop people from getting it and stop community transmission so even if you think that

01:04:27.200 bodily autonomy should be contingent on the greater good or public health which i i do not

01:04:32.460 I think that any attempt to mandate someone's personal decisions that don't directly affect

01:04:37.520 someone else are always going to end poorly and are inherently immoral. But even if you did think

01:04:42.400 that, we know that's not the case with this. There is no good argument for this not just being

01:04:48.380 a personal health decision to be made under informed consent or lack thereof.

01:04:53.900 No, I mean, if it was working like crazy, it would still, likewise, it would grate on me to say

01:04:58.140 you can impose this on people but there would be a bit of justification if they say we're wiping

01:05:02.640 out this whole thing we're dealing with it it's working and it's not there'd at least be an

01:05:06.120 argument right there'd at least be an argument exactly there's nothing I had a commenter Kathy

01:05:10.160 Wheaton and she brought up a good point uh we're kind of wondering so you're hearing a lot about us

01:05:14.080 with our insanity up here uh has there been much movement with American truckers though because

01:05:17.620 there's a lot of unvaccinated American truckers who are dealing with the same difficulty trying

01:05:21.300 to come back and forth we do a lot of trade with each other it's very important to a lot of people

01:05:24.600 Absolutely. So there has been quite a bit of talk about an American equivalent of a freedom convoy. There have been some small trucker protests. Things are a little different in America in that Canada, both demographically and geographically, is very well suited for several tens of thousands of truckers to shut down entire parts of the country.

01:05:47.480 You have large population centers that have large, you know, you have just a couple of highways that are connecting them.

01:05:56.980 You don't have these big mega population centers that overlap into each other like we have in many parts of the U.S.

01:06:05.260 You also have a very high percentage of owner operator truckers, much higher than in the U.S.

01:06:10.960 So there's a lot of factors there that make this something that was a uniquely Canadian way of protesting.

01:06:17.480 and being as effective as it has been.

01:06:19.640 With that said, I mean, yes, there's definitely,

01:06:21.940 there already are some trucker protests

01:06:23.760 and protests in support of the truckers.

01:06:26.800 I do think that we're going to end up having

01:06:28.420 the American version of the Freedom Convoy,

01:06:30.840 but for a variety of reasons,

01:06:32.340 I'm not sure it's going to have.

01:06:34.180 Another reason being we don't have quite as strict

01:06:36.880 of the restrictions at the federal level.

01:06:39.060 At this point, there are very few restrictions

01:06:41.260 at the federal level.

01:06:42.340 So I think a lot of our protests

01:06:44.180 will likely be targeted against specific states

01:06:47.020 or even specific cities, large major metro areas that have very high restrictions that

01:06:53.340 are comparable to what you have.

01:06:54.780 So I don't think it's going to be the same, but I do, I mean, we're already seeing some

01:06:59.480 of that here.

01:07:00.980 Yeah, well, and something that might come about, I've had a lot of people, of course,

01:07:04.960 debating on this, saying, well, you're wasting your time up here in Canada demanding this

01:07:08.180 because the Americans have a vaccine policy as well, and the truckers won't be able to

01:07:11.180 come back and forth anyhow, even if we lift the Canadian one.

01:07:14.000 But in my view, it's a vacuous, two wrongs, make a right sort of argument. 0.98

01:07:18.940 Let's get rid of ours first.

01:07:20.480 And it's going to bring a great deal more pressure about down there to get rid of that one as well.

01:07:24.420 I mean, you have to start somewhere.

01:07:26.180 And it looks like we've got a lot of people ready to start.

01:07:29.360 Well, and we have been advocating from the beginning.

01:07:31.780 Freedom lovers have been advocating from the beginning to end this requirement that people come in,

01:07:36.780 especially people coming in for work, not even coming in to stay,

01:07:39.960 but coming in for a specific work-related purpose, like a trucker that's bringing goods to and from the U.S. and into Canada or onto the Mexican side as well, requiring them to be vaccinated.

01:07:51.240 Again, science and data, when you look at the science and data, the spreading hasn't happened because of truckers bringing in goods or taking goods out.

01:08:01.520 The spreads have largely been in two things, large events, very, very large events and relatively smaller family setups where, you know, someone's going into a greeting or a meeting of maybe a dozen or so people in a small, poorly ventilated area like a house.

01:08:21.360 So, I mean, the things that they're that they're going, that they're fighting against are nonsensical.

01:08:26.800 But that's like in the US, we have a requirement that all health care workers now or effectively all health care workers have to be vaccinated.

01:08:34.840 And that has led to a lot of layoffs. And so now, again, this was to slow the spread.

01:08:40.060 And now, because of the shortage, they're now telling vaccinated health care workers who have active COVID infections that they have to come back to work as long as their symptoms aren't too bad.

01:08:51.640 They literally have COVID. 0.76

01:08:54.840 We have to get rid of the unvaccinated health care workers, the vast majority of whom do not have COVID. 0.84

01:09:00.120 And it doesn't really seem to matter all that much, at least, whether you're vaccinated or not, whether you can spread COVID. 0.74

01:09:05.640 But we got to fire them for public health.

01:09:08.600 But we got to bring back the vaccinated COVID work, the health care workers, I guess we can call them COVID workers, health care workers that have COVID and can much more easily spread it to someone that's one who doesn't have COVID. 0.72

01:09:19.820 It's nonsensical. It makes no sense. It only makes sense if you look at it from the filter of what creates more power and control for government than everything they do make sense.

01:09:29.040 If you try to make it make sense under their terms of why they say they're doing it, it looks like they're a bunch of fools. 0.99

01:09:33.500 And I don't think they are fools. I think they just want more control. 0.99

01:09:36.240 yeah well that's it and you're closing off on exactly what i wanted to say i mean this is

01:09:40.400 obviously not about health anymore it's about control and that's always the battle actually

01:09:44.480 comes down to when it comes to citizens versus government anytime and this has brought it to a

01:09:48.900 head i just hope that we fight our way out and maybe into more liberty i still always got to

01:09:53.320 maintain optimism because otherwise i won't be able to sleep at night absolutely go but thank

01:09:58.660 you very much for joining me today where can people find more information on where you're at

01:10:01.980 and what you're up to i see you all over the place seeing you on fox and in other such spots but uh

01:10:05.880 where can we keep track of you spike well so if you're looking for me on social media i'm on

01:10:10.240 facebook i'm on twitter i'm on instagram i'm on youtube i'm on tiktok for the kids if you look

01:10:15.740 for spike cohen you'll find me uh my website is spikecohen.com um and that also has a a listing

01:10:22.640 of upcoming events if you're if you're in the states uh or if you're vaccinated and in canada

01:10:27.360 want to come down to the states uh then uh then you can come out to an event and i'd love to get

01:10:32.220 to meet you in person. But yeah, website is SpikeCohen.com and I'm Spike Cohen on all the

01:10:37.280 major social medias. Excellent. I really appreciate being able to talk to you today. I hope we get the

01:10:41.960 chance to do it again soon and keep fighting that good fight down there. Absolutely, man. Thanks for

01:10:46.180 having me on again. Thanks. Yes, that was Spike Cohen. And yes, you just Google that name and

01:10:52.320 you'll find him quite quickly. I like, you know, getting that perspective. I mean, it's not often

01:10:56.380 we make that much news down in the States. You know, it's a part of that Canadian insecurity

01:11:00.040 we demonstrate quite often actually with uh you know we we get shocked or excited when we even

01:11:06.200 you know our american cousins even pay attention to us or we see them on mainstream shows or

01:11:10.040 or things like that but right now they are watching us all the time we are dominating

01:11:13.640 american news unfortunately not really in a good way uh you know going a little further with some

01:11:19.800 of the stuff he's talking about the ridiculousness and the backtracking uh i'll go through some news

01:11:23.960 stuff uh so there's a this is on the i believe it's going to be on our website if it isn't already

01:11:28.280 there's an internal letter to CNRL employees, Canadian Natural Resources, who were put on unpaid

01:11:33.640 suspension because they wouldn't get vaccinated. There it is. Yes. Let me see Mel's right on that.

01:11:37.800 And now they're reviewing their policy and they're polling their employees on their intention to

01:11:42.440 return. How nice, you know, we sort of basically fired you for a while, but we're kind of

01:11:47.400 shorthanded now and the oil prices are high. And, you know, would you think about coming back? You

01:11:52.120 know, I don't know. I'm not one of those employees, but I would offer them, you know, a good strong

01:11:57.160 middle finger and say you know what there's a lot of energy companies that are certainly booming with

01:12:00.920 these high oil prices right now and i will consider going to one of those before i'll come back to you 0.98

01:12:04.920 clowns you fired me kiss my butt but that's up to those individual employees but it's it's similar 0.97

01:12:10.200 to what uh spike was talking about with down there you know that you can bring in these mandates you 1.00

01:12:15.080 can come up with these ideas but when push comes to shove you can't afford to keep firing these people

01:12:19.480 you need them you need them and it's crashing and again let's get rid of these mandates let's 1.00

01:12:23.480 Let's quit being stupid. 1.00

01:12:24.620 That's a big ask, isn't it? 1.00

01:12:26.740 So what are we seeing here?

01:12:29.780 Yes, the cabinet.

01:12:30.620 Dave talked about that too.

01:12:31.760 So they're not going to issue any medals.

01:12:33.240 This is a side thing,

01:12:34.040 but this shows some of the lack of pride in Canada.

01:12:36.100 And this is a different thing, I think,

01:12:37.260 reading into what's happened here.

01:12:39.420 You know, if we look back into the last Canada Day

01:12:41.060 over all of the residential school graves

01:12:43.600 and things like that,

01:12:44.620 Justin Trudeau put our flag at half-mast

01:12:46.660 for months and months and months at a time.

01:12:48.540 And we were told not to wave flags in Canada Day.

01:12:51.420 I remember talking to a servant from a bar

01:12:53.080 who was told not to wear red on Canada Day even while serving to avoid getting backlash from

01:12:58.800 people on it. That's how ridiculous it got. We're supposed to hang our heads on the day that we 0.69

01:13:02.260 celebrate the creation of the nation. Well, Cabinet is now not going to issue any medals

01:13:06.920 in observance of the Queen's Platinum Jubilee. So, you know, it's a big turning point for the Queen

01:13:11.080 and often, traditionally, the Department of Canadian Heritage would offer these medals,

01:13:17.060 you know, to significant and distinguished Canadians and people like that. But this time

01:13:22.120 they said, nah, you know, we're not going to do it. Why? Well, because we've got, again, you know,

01:13:27.200 Queen Victoria had her statue ripped down by extremists. You know, it's funny when it comes

01:13:31.920 to conservative protesters, if you hang a flag off a statue, you're some demon from hell. But if you 0.99

01:13:37.700 are of a left-wing protest and you tear down Queen Victoria's statue, well, you know, shit happens. 1.00

01:13:43.980 So this anti-monarchy, anti-history, hang your head and shame attitude in Canada is spreading 1.00

01:13:51.060 further. And even during the Queen's Jubilee, her Platinum Jubilee, they're not going to be giving

01:13:55.420 out any medals because they feel it's embarrassing. We don't want to talk about our history anymore.

01:13:59.400 This country is falling apart. And you know, it's not just legislatively, it's we're looking at in

01:14:05.240 pride. You know, we are not feeling unified. We are not feeling proud of our nation.

01:14:09.220 Well, I mean, you know, the Western nation could be one to be proud of. We could build that.

01:14:14.040 But this is where they're going. I mean, a senator said it's inexplicable on this. You know,

01:14:18.620 he's a metal advisory group. And he said, I can only speculate the decision was made because the

01:14:22.840 previous conservative government was in favor of it. Maybe, maybe not. As I said, I think it ties

01:14:29.080 more into the whole, you know, let's be ashamed of being Canadian and not celebrate anything.

01:14:35.260 So again, in talking to Spike, he's talking about the bank run. He's talking about them running out

01:14:38.620 of money. Isn't that great? People are pulling their money away. Or if they're not pulling out

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01:15:50.720 Oh yeah, you know, I think we talked a little bit about that, a little more, the common speaker,

01:15:54.360 just the shame of our mainstream media, speaking of which anyways, in general,

01:15:58.020 it's why alternative media like us is important. The speakers offered reporters armed guards at

01:16:03.060 the taxpayer's expense after the Parliamentary Press Gallery complained it was troubled by the

01:16:07.600 Freedom Convoy protesters. So we'll spend some dollars. These guys, I mean, I don't want to see

01:16:13.840 anybody threatening media members. I doubt it's happening much in more than just people being rude

01:16:18.640 to them and things such as that. I'm going to be going to the protests again in Calgary this

01:16:23.440 weekend, Saturday, one o'clock in Memorial Park. And I saw there before a global truck drove by.

01:16:29.800 That was a couple of weeks ago when I went to those protests and people were hollering at them

01:16:32.580 calling them fake news and a few things, but they weren't getting aggressive with them. But I can

01:16:35.880 see why they're feeling uncomfortable. You know what? You guys made your bed. I mean, the legacy

01:16:39.720 media coverage of this whole thing as it's unfolded has been nothing less than repugnant. 0.99

01:16:43.820 The slanted, crappy, garbage coverage. And I'm talking from the talk radio that I listened to 0.99

01:16:49.340 on the way in in the mornings to CTV that I run as a diet plan because I'm eating supper and I

01:16:54.800 keep CTV news on the TV while I eat. And, you know, as I watch that wretched slanted coverage

01:17:00.560 up there on the television. It ruins my appetite and I don't eat as much. So I should be able to

01:17:05.120 get down to pant size. I mean, there's one benefit to the mainstream media, but aside from that,

01:17:08.100 they're crap. And people are seeing that. They've been exposed for that. And yes, the protesters 0.99

01:17:15.100 won't talk to them. And don't. Don't get violent with them, but don't talk to them. Don't give them

01:17:19.360 the time of day. They aren't worth it. You do know they're going to slant it. I mean, there's still

01:17:22.720 some good journalists out there. There's still some good columnists. Look around, but boy, they're

01:17:27.100 getting fewer and fewer and far between. And some of the good ones are on pressure from above not

01:17:31.520 to give balanced coverage. That's the reality. That's what's happening out there. We don't have

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01:18:31.660 let you go with a video. And this was posted by Dave Rubin. His podcast is fantastic. He's got a

01:18:37.260 huge following online. And again, I don't know if he made it, but he posted it and it's got his

01:18:42.200 branding on it. And it's just great. And it just kind of lays out where Canada's sitting. And

01:18:45.280 remember, this is an American commentator. This is what they see of us right now. And they've hit

01:18:49.060 the nail right on the head and uh we'll run out the show with that thank you all for tuning in

01:18:53.560 and i'll see you tomorrow at 11 30 i got jay hill on there and i've got jacques boudreau the head of

01:18:59.040 the canadian libertarian party

01:19:00.680 good evening have a little chat there are of course those who do not want us to speak

01:19:18.940 it has to stop the federal government has invoked the emergencies act the police will be given

01:19:27.280 more tools to restore order and where once you had the freedom to object to think and speak as

01:19:33.240 you saw fit you now have sensors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity these

01:19:38.880 changes cover all forms of transactions including digital assets there were a myriad of problems

01:19:46.240 conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense fear got the best of you

01:19:52.800 the consequences are becoming more and more severe and in your panic you turn to the now

01:19:58.320 high chancellor he promised you order he promised you peace and all he demanded in return was your

01:20:04.400 silent obedient consent and if you're still participating time to go home is now fairness

01:20:11.920 justice and freedom are more than words they are perspectives so if you've seen nothing if the

01:20:19.560 crimes of this government remain unknown to you but if you see what i see if you feel as i feel

01:20:27.940 and if you would seek as i seek and remember people should not be afraid of their government

01:20:34.140 government should be afraid of their people

01:20:41.920 Thank you.

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Western Standard - February 18, 2022

LIVE - Triggered： Trudeau’s true nature is on display

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