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00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's March 2nd, 2022, and welcome to Triggered. Back to all those number twos again.

00:00:37.040 I'm Corey Morgan. This show's the Western Standard's live daily interview, news report show,

00:00:43.120 ranting show on my part. We run every day at 11.30 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday to Friday,

00:00:48.700 except on holidays, unless something's breaking. But you can count on us being here every morning

00:00:52.680 at 11.30. Being live, we really enjoy that format. It's good. We can get some comments,

00:00:57.400 we can get some interaction, get some back and forth. I don't necessarily pass along every

00:01:01.160 comment or question to a guest, but you can throw it out there and I might get it in there. I

00:01:04.420 certainly read them all and you can comment back and forth with each other. You can discuss. It's

00:01:09.020 fun being live and we get some really good questions and discourse going on. Of course,

00:01:13.300 we still always want to keep things polite and civil. It's important. I got a couple of very

00:01:18.920 interesting guests on today. Some people might be familiar with Derek Fromm. He's a lawyer. He's

00:01:23.200 often been standing up on constitutional issues, things such as that. And Melanie's interviewed

00:01:28.580 him a number of times. I've known him for a while. And he's going to talk about an Ontario court

00:01:32.560 ruling on family choice and vaccination. The judge just ripped into, and Melanie did an interview on

00:01:38.340 that as well recently, just ripped into the people in general and talking about how the courts should

00:01:43.320 stay out of family choice and out of politics in general. So it's going to be good to talk about.

00:01:47.800 And for the other part with Derek, I want to talk about, he has a heavy metal band. He's had it for

00:01:51.940 quite some time now. And it's called sympathy. And they got kicked off of YouTube because they

00:01:57.440 put a video out that talked about some things or depicted some things such as the protests

00:02:02.160 with the truckers convoy and with even comparing it with Tiananmen Square and things. So somehow

00:02:08.100 YouTube said, no, that's it. We're going to yank your video. And they pulled it off there. So

00:02:11.300 the censorship lands all over the place, even down to heavy metal. So it'll be a fun and

00:02:15.580 interesting conversation there. Then I got speaking of censorship, Kid Carson. People in

00:02:20.180 Vancouver area, Lower Mainland would be probably familiar with him. He's a very well-known radio

00:02:26.880 DJ down there. He'd been there for quite some time. And he, though, kept speaking his mind on

00:02:33.880 vaccination, on the protests and things like that. And it wasn't so much a full firing, but from

00:02:39.760 the sounds of it with his podcast, him and the radio station basically came to a mutual agreement

00:02:46.180 that he's no longer going to be with them. And he's moved out on his own and he's got a podcast,

00:02:50.480 but it gets back to again, legacy media, not wanting to have broad opinion, expecting group

00:02:57.940 speak, you know, group think. And that's certainly not what we offer around here, you know, and that's

00:03:03.320 part of why radio and talk radio has gotten so terrible and God awful boring lately. You know,

00:03:07.500 it's, it's, everybody's afraid of getting canceled. We don't have that fear here.

00:03:11.980 We don't at all.

00:03:13.660 So I'm going to talk actually quickly.

00:03:17.200 Where am I going here to?

00:03:18.480 What's got me going today?

00:03:21.080 And yeah, let's talk about, you know, Canadians and the rest of the world.

00:03:24.060 We've been horrified by the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

00:03:27.240 I mean, a peaceful country has had a foreign nation come in and try and occupy it.

00:03:33.400 Most nations don't have the military ability or the will to directly intervene in the conflict.

00:03:38.620 The military entrance of a third party into the conflict would probably lead to a third world war.

00:03:43.440 Nations have been responding to the war by providing financial and material aid to Ukraine

00:03:47.540 while taking actions to put financial pressure on Russia, and Canada hasn't been an exception.

00:03:52.780 We lent money to Ukraine while sending arms to them for defense,

00:03:55.360 and Russian planes have been banned from Canadian airspace, Russian TV cut from the Canadian airwaves.

00:03:59.780 Chinese TV was kept, by the way, though.

00:04:02.160 A number of economic sanctions against Russia have been imposed by Canada.

00:04:05.920 It was only recently and reticently, though, that Prime Minister Trudeau announced a ban of Russian crude oil imports.

00:04:11.420 Most Canadians didn't even know that Canada imported Russian petrochemical products in the first place.

00:04:16.580 Canada is among one of the top oil and gas producers on Earth.

00:04:18.740 Why would we be shipping oil from such a distant source as Russia into our country?

00:04:24.380 So in reality, the amount of oil coming from Russia isn't much.

00:04:26.740 Canada apparently hasn't brought in any crude products from Russia in a couple of years.

00:04:30.560 And they bring in some refined products from Russia that amount to actually about a million dollars a day.

00:04:34.940 The gesture of the oil ban is a good one, all the same, even if it doesn't really mean much.

00:04:39.580 It's not going to bring Russia to its knees.

00:04:41.360 But if the Russian oil ban doesn't really impact Canadians much, why did Trudeau drag his feet so much in doing it?

00:04:46.700 Well, the answer is pretty simple.

00:04:47.740 The Trudeau government doesn't want Canadians realizing how dependent the country is on importing petrochemical products from foreign sources.

00:04:55.260 Maybe if enough Canadians realize when they fill their car up for their morning commute, 0.81

00:04:58.840 they're supporting nations with appalling human rights records, such as Saudi Arabia, Algeria,

00:05:03.320 Nigeria, Angola, and Venezuela. If you look it up, those are some of the top ones that ship oil to

00:05:08.660 Canada. And Canadians might start asking some questions that make the government uncomfortable

00:05:12.620 if they start realizing that. I think a lot of people are in blissful ignorance on this. They

00:05:16.240 just don't want to know where it comes from. Just keep the price down and let me get to work.

00:05:20.340 So the Canadian government's been working under an ideological delusion for years now that we can

00:05:24.620 transition into a green world of renewable energy

00:05:27.040 if only we could shut off enough of our own

00:05:28.920 domestic supplies. The government's been very

00:05:30.720 successful in shutting off Canadian supplies of oil

00:05:32.860 and gas. They've not managed to find that

00:05:34.800 mythical source of green energy yet, however, so

00:05:36.740 foreign imports of oil from dictatorships keep rising.

00:05:39.640 The proposed Energy East pipeline

00:05:40.940 that would have fed Western Canadian energy products

00:05:42.900 to Eastern Canada. We had

00:05:44.900 that, but Trudeau regulated it to death.

00:05:46.980 The Northern Gateway Pipeline would

00:05:48.860 have helped Canada export oil to countries that are

00:05:50.860 dependent on Russian oil right now.

00:05:53.000 But Trudeau killed that one.

00:05:54.620 The Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion could have increased those exports as well, but Trudeau

00:05:59.620 regulated it to near death and then bought it with tax dollars, and it remains languishing half-built

00:06:04.120 right now while the costs go through the roof. I really am starting to doubt it will ever be done.

00:06:08.120 We could be exporting LNG, which is liquid natural gas, to other nations. Canada has some of the

00:06:12.680 largest natural gas deposits on earth, but while many LNG export terminals have been proposed,

00:06:18.160 the Trudeau government has killed all but one of them through regulations, and that one is delayed

00:06:22.020 over budget, and the pipeline being built to service it has been dogged by protests and acts

00:06:27.280 of eco-terrorism that the federal government has been loath to address. President Biden killed the

00:06:32.380 Keystone XL pipeline despite billions of Canadian dollars being invested into it, and Trudeau just

00:06:36.320 shrugged when that happened. Biden's now in the hopeless position of trying to defend Russian oil

00:06:41.040 imports into the United States. He could have said there was a bunch coming from Canada, but those

00:06:44.900 idiots shut it down. Trudeau could be making a strong case right now for the revitalization of

00:06:49.160 the project, but he's still silent. In a war where economic sanctions are one of the strongest

00:06:54.540 weapons, an energy superpower can be well-placed to influence the world for the better. But Canada

00:07:00.160 has blunted that ability as it consistently shuts down its own domestic energy production ability

00:07:05.060 while becoming increasingly dependent on foreign supplies. When Alberta Premier Jason Kennedy

00:07:09.460 pointed out how Western Canada is poised to fill these energy voids, he was dismissed by Eastern

00:07:13.320 politicians and legacy media members as being a cold opportunist who wants to take advantage of

00:07:17.520 the war in Ukraine. The Laurentian elite in Canada wants to shut down all discussion of

00:07:23.100 developing Western Canadian resources, no matter how much it makes sense to do so.

00:07:27.380 They're driven by ideology rather than reality. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has had the side

00:07:32.500 effect of exposing how ridiculously dependent the world has become upon Russian sources of energy.

00:07:38.020 Europe is in a full-out energy crisis as they realize shutting down their own forms of energy

00:07:41.600 generation in favor of Russian sources has left them vulnerable. Canada could have eased that

00:07:46.780 dependency had we only been allowed to develop our own energy infrastructure. We have to force

00:07:52.140 the federal government into addressing domestic energy supplies, no matter how squeamish it seems

00:07:56.100 to make them. There's no better time than right now to work to end the absurd and costly domestic

00:08:01.320 energy embargo that we've put upon ourselves. We don't need to be buying energy products from

00:08:05.540 dictatorships, nor do we need to be paying record prices to fill up our own cars. We have it all

00:08:09.280 right here. We just need the federal government to get out of the damn way so we can develop it. 1.00

00:08:13.240 that's what's got me triggered today so let's get to our news editor Dave Naylor and see what's got

00:08:21.500 him triggered today hey Corey good to see you Dave hey Corey you know what's got me triggered

00:08:28.060 is that we don't have the downtown to ourselves anymore I mean through the fog of this morning

00:08:34.580 there's nothing but traffic and nowhere to park that's got me triggered yeah I mean it's a good

00:08:40.940 a bad thing we got spoiled with all that uh desolate downtown but it is nice seeing people

00:08:45.740 coming back to work and get a little closer to normal again it is i think those of us who kept

00:08:50.380 coming downtown should get preferred parking spots so absolutely we held the fort exactly we did uh

00:08:58.060 what's making news this morning for us well you remember the uh the fiasco of the phoenix pay

00:09:03.260 system well you know it's you know it's going roughly when the uh feds are having to bring in

00:09:08.460 consultants to fix the work of their first consultants. So we have a story on that. NDP

00:09:14.740 says the Fed spend $12 billion a year on consultants. So if I'd have known that, I may have taken a

00:09:21.780 different line of work. I may have been retired by now. A couple of stories involving Ottawa

00:09:29.420 Carleton MP Pierre Polyev, currently the only announced candidate for the conservative leadership

00:09:35.540 campaign. He's got his gun sights set on Trudeau this morning, blaming the Prime Minister for the

00:09:43.440 Bank of Canada interest rate hike that was announced this morning. That's going to affect

00:09:49.220 a lot of Canadians, making things more expensive. He's also talking about energy,

00:09:55.120 your favorite topic, and urging Trudeau to get out of the way and let a couple of East Coast

00:10:01.900 energy developments get built so that they can start shipping products to Europe and other

00:10:10.500 places. Under the category of the bleeding obvious, we have a study out on the federal

00:10:16.940 civil service, and the majority of them say that nepotism and cronyism is rife in the civil service,

00:10:25.100 so that doesn't come as shocking news to anybody. My favorite story of the day is the Liberals.

00:10:31.900 they're giving free snowmobiles away to people in the arctic uh it's an effort to uh to help the

00:10:38.620 inuit with uh hunting and picking berries so they're spending millions of dollars a year uh

00:10:44.940 sending uh sending snow machines up uh to the arctic so i'm sure they're having fun riding

00:10:51.020 around uh on them and our real estate guy mike thomas checks in uh i've mentioned the interest

00:10:57.020 rate hike of this morning yesterday was the busiest day in 18 years for calgary realtors

00:11:05.580 they are saying people specifically trying to buy condominiums before the interest rate hike

00:11:11.740 took effect so it looks like the real estate market in calgary will be booming or at least

00:11:17.900 was booming for one day yesterday cory uh coming up uh we sent our intrepid mel risden to the mall

00:11:25.980 last night to take a look and just see how many people are wearing masks and how many aren't.

00:11:32.940 So she's going to be filing a first person column on that shortly and lots of other good stuff,

00:11:41.040 I'm sure. Great. Well, always lots to keep everybody busy and it's all back on the site,

00:11:47.080 westernstandardonline.com. So thanks for checking in. I hope you, well, you are going to sneak out

00:11:53.160 early. I think it's just because you want to try and find a better parking space, but you're saying

00:11:56.660 it's automotive work. Yeah, I got to take my car to the car doctor. So if I'm going to having to

00:12:01.920 be fight for a fight for a parking space, I need it to be ramming tough. Okay. All right. Thanks,

00:12:08.480 Dave. We'll talk to you later. Thanks. Great. So yes, just that reminder to everybody, you know,

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00:13:05.240 come up. People talk about the status of Tamara Leach. We're watching that closely. If we hear 0.96

00:13:10.640 news on what's going on, we'll let you know. She has a bail hearing today. For those not familiar,

00:13:15.240 she's the political prisoner who's been sitting bail for without bail for two weeks now in jail

00:13:21.560 because she was one of the organizers of the truckers convoy protest i mean it

00:13:25.000 it's absurd they brought her in in shackles into the courtroom today uh the judge actually said

00:13:29.720 take those shackles off her and uh they've gone on with the hearings i guess they've adjourned

00:13:33.640 for lunch this is a long time for what should be just a bail hearing we let murderers out on bail 1.00

00:13:37.880 guys she's charged with mischief mischief so yeah that's why i'm calling her a political prisoner 0.99

00:13:43.720 not just a regular run-of-the-mill case here. Was it Carol Bergman Sundberg asking about Bill

00:13:50.560 S-233? Yeah, that's a Senate bill. It stinks, but you know, Senate bills really tend not to go

00:13:55.880 anywhere. They're more like when you look at City Hall or others, they like to make a motion,

00:13:59.540 make noise, but they don't actually do anything with it. So I don't like the bill, but I'm not

00:14:03.840 too worried about it. I don't believe it's going to lead to further troubles. We've got a lot of

00:14:08.880 things that are going to lead to further troubles for us in the future here, but that is not one of

00:14:12.840 them, thankfully. Getting back to mainstream media, you know, that's going to be a lot of

00:14:17.640 the theme today, cancel culture and censorship. And some of it too is just in the coverage and

00:14:24.160 balance. You know, Melanie's going to be talking about what she saw when she went out last night

00:14:28.280 because Alberta's now into day two without masks, without regulations. And we still got a lot of

00:14:32.800 regulations, but the vast majority of them are gone. And with what she saw out there, well,

00:14:37.940 CTV, I mean, again, I like to talk about it because I torture myself at night while I eat

00:14:41.760 supper. It's just a weight loss thing, right? I could lose my appetite watching mainstream media.

00:14:45.660 And they did their streeters, you know, so they went out and they interviewed people on the streets

00:14:49.980 on day one without masks and asked them how they felt about it. And lo and behold, everybody they

00:14:55.220 talked to was, well, I'm going to keep my mask on. I think it's a good idea. I don't think it's time

00:15:00.160 for people to unmask yet. Yeah, no, I'm afraid. I'm really afraid. You know, this is a way that

00:15:06.180 the media manipulates the messaging. And I'll admit, I went out, I did some shopping for groceries

00:15:10.700 last night. I'd say the vast majority in that store were masked. People were masked. But you

00:15:14.440 know what? If it's their choice, I don't care. Go for it. Wear a mask. It doesn't bother me any.

00:15:18.080 But a lot of them weren't. If you're going to do an honest streeter and get out and have a look

00:15:21.740 around, why did they not even find one person? And don't try and tell me there isn't one that

00:15:26.080 they could find and say, oh, it's so nice getting out without a mask. It's been able to smile at

00:15:30.540 people. I've been able to look around and not breathe my own wretched breath. Though, I mean,

00:15:34.480 that's an argument for dental hygiene, but that's a separate case. But you know what I mean?

00:15:37.420 they didn't even try to get balance. Apparently everybody in the city is quite horrified with

00:15:42.280 being unmasked and they're going to remain with masks if you believe the mainstream media.

00:15:47.660 So no, we aren't the mainstream. We don't intend to be. Those are the people who've already

00:15:52.160 accused us of being too far that way already. I assure you guys, that's not where we land.

00:15:58.480 We're just getting bigger. It doesn't mean mainstream. Big difference. So I'm going to

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00:17:28.680 How does Bitcoin work if war takes down the internet?

00:17:31.740 Well, if the whole internet gets taken down,

00:17:36.740 the status of our Bitcoin

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00:17:40.560 As it sits, though, you get actually,

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00:17:51.820 And they talk to you about how you can secure that,

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00:17:56.280 and things such as that.

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00:18:01.740 wouldn't vanish if the internet gets shut down for a little while or something like that. It's

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00:18:14.960 real companies. So I'm going to bring on lawyer Derek Fromm, and it's going to be, we're going to

00:18:21.400 talk a little bit of legal stuff, but then go beyond some of the usual lawyerly stuff that

00:18:25.560 comes out in these interviews as well. So let's bring him into the studio while virtually here.

00:18:30.360 Anyways. Hey, Derek, how's it going? Not too bad. How are you doing?

00:18:33.720 Oh, good. Good. I mean, I'm day two without a mask, right? Or at least, well, I didn't wear

00:18:37.500 a lot anyways, but I don't have to anymore. Yeah, that's nice. Not having to worry about

00:18:42.560 when you walk in someplace who's judging you and, well, they can judge me. I wouldn't have

00:18:46.800 cared anyway. Well, that's it. And people can potentially, you know, of those few viewers

00:18:50.560 I've got, recognize me and judge me when I go out in public anyways. And it's usually negative,

00:18:54.400 but now I can at least say, you know, they can address me face to face and tell me to get

00:18:57.820 stuffed or whatever. I enjoy those interactions. So, I mean, we'll start just quickly with the

00:19:02.980 legal part before we get onto the musical half of our episode here. We had an email you were

00:19:07.920 talking with. I mean, just Melanie interviewed somebody on that recently too, but let's reiterate

00:19:11.820 a really striking court ruling from the Ontario Superior Court on a case. It was what one of the

00:19:17.300 parents wanted to get the child vaccinated. One of the parents didn't. And it wasn't just that

00:19:22.620 judge ruled in favor of the parent who wanted to choose not to vaccinate but the writing and the

00:19:27.340 ruling was really something that judge kind of went above and beyond to speak about the whole

00:19:31.500 tone of things you can expand a bit on that yeah that it's actually really exciting to

00:19:36.300 find a case like that normally i think judges um they just kind of cut to the get to the point

00:19:42.060 and don't spend a lot of time worrying about how well written the decision is in terms of

00:19:47.900 prose they just try to convey what their reasoning is but here we we have an example of a judge who

00:19:55.740 uh i would say feels deeply enough about this topic and has thought about it enough that he

00:20:00.860 actually put some effort into uh how he expressed his reasoning and it it's quite a striking

00:20:08.540 introduction so the introduction to this decision if if your viewers have read court decisions

00:20:13.820 before usually it's like a laundry list of who did what to whom and when they did it but this

00:20:19.260 is let me let me just read this this is how this goes it's great when did it become illegal to ask

00:20:25.740 questions especially in a courtroom when did it become unfashionable for judges to receive answers

00:20:33.100 especially when children's lives are at stake how did we lower our guards and let the words

00:20:39.260 unacceptable beliefs get paired together fascinating i think that's a quote from

00:20:46.060 someone we know and is misinformation even a real word or has it become a crass self-serving tool

00:20:55.500 preemptive that preempts scrutiny to discredit your opponent so is it is it a trump card just

00:21:00.940 to cast dispersions well it's very fascinating because the judge goes through this and what

00:21:06.460 had happened in this case is the two parents were otherwise good parents but were were they were

00:21:12.620 either separated or divorced and they were having a dispute whether or not their 10 year old and

00:21:16.540 their 12 year old children should be vaccinated the 14 year old had made the decision uh on i

00:21:22.620 can't remember if it was a a daughter or a son but the 14 year old made a decision independent of the

00:21:28.300 parents and chose to be vaccinated uh which the dad was in favor of the mum said okay i'm not

00:21:36.300 in favor of the vaccination but you're 14 you make your own decision now with the 12 and 10

00:21:42.300 year old who were living with the mother she had custody of the two of them she wanted them to be

00:21:49.580 able to make their own decision as well but the father father said no they should be vaccinated

00:21:54.860 this is a very serious disease we can't have them being spreading the disease around etc etc

00:22:01.020 well what the court did is the court actually applied the law as it is the court did its duty

00:22:05.980 though this is not new law this is not changing anything this is just re-establishing what we've

00:22:13.260 all should have known was the case uh throughout the pandemic and that is this when a court is

00:22:20.140 looking at doing something as extraordinary as demanding a child who has charter rights

00:22:25.980 inject something into their body maybe we should ask the kids what they want

00:22:30.380 novel because the law is that what has to be what what is done has to be done in the best

00:22:38.420 interests of the child and certainly a portion of what it means to be done in the best interest of

00:22:44.560 the child is to actually reference what the child wants and so the court did that there was a

00:22:49.940 psychologist that had been working with the children for a number of years because the

00:22:53.020 the family breakdown and the psychologist clearly said look the parents aren't having undue influence

00:22:58.780 over the children's decisions here they're both otherwise good parents they just became that it

00:23:03.980 was just an unlivable situation for them so there wasn't any poisoning going on the children were

00:23:09.420 mature enough to understand the decision that they were making and you know if you look at it children

00:23:15.100 really aren't at risk of covid so there's that there's the fact that uh when you vaccinate you

00:23:22.700 can still spread the disease so the judge was both assured that they weren't the judge wasn't sending

00:23:28.620 these children away to die the judge also was assured that look I'm not sending these children

00:23:34.780 out the community to kill other people as well because the vaccination would make little difference

00:23:39.240 on that front and on top of it the children already had COVID and had recovered and they had

00:23:44.300 demonstrated their natural immunity so there was the judge was like you know I can't see a reason

00:23:50.360 to vaccinate and the mother had brought this evidence that she found online but she brought

00:23:56.200 evidence from like uh dr malone from the cdc from even from pfizer the trial data which showed you

00:24:03.400 know there are complications in some cases with the vaccine she brought that to court but the

00:24:09.160 father's evidence was basically amounted to well you know that's conspiracy theorist she's wearing

00:24:14.280 a tinfoil hat there's pictures of her hanging around with maxine bernier at political events

00:24:19.800 and uh the judge read the father of the riot act not because he's a bad person

00:24:25.320 but because he didn't present evidence he thought it was enough to say your theories have been

00:24:30.200 debunked that's discredited well the government says that it's safe and effective and the the

00:24:37.000 court said you know that's not evidence that's argument and if you can turn to page or the

00:24:44.280 paragraph 67 it's brilliant that you have it there paragraph 67 is a wonderful paragraph

00:24:51.400 you know in times of uncertainty like what we have right now where we're looking at the

00:24:55.640 pfizer trial data and the warning labels on on the vaccines and there are risks this is

00:25:01.400 not a risk-free procedure yet the government is saying safe and effective is that evidence

00:25:08.040 well no it's not because has the government ever been wrong before yeah we were just talking about

00:25:14.760 their payroll system with the phoenix uh what is it 25 years they've been working on that they

00:25:18.600 can't get their paychecks right that's right it's been a long time trust them with medical opinions

00:25:24.120 so yeah in paragraph 67 look at this it's sterilization it's uh there we go in c what

00:25:33.480 about internment camps what about thalidomide the government gets things wrong of course it's safe

00:25:39.880 and effective according to the government but they're not always right you have to bring evidence

00:25:45.320 that's just saying debunked, yelling conspiracy theory, and saying the other side is anti-science,

00:25:52.600 that's not enough in court any longer. Yeah, well, it was good that he spoke up on,

00:25:56.940 you know, how that was trying, where the attempt was made to make a political association a factor

00:26:01.540 in this. And that's a dangerous road to go down. And for him to slap it down so thoroughly in that,

00:26:07.980 again, it's not saying he likes or dislikes the people, he's just saying it's irrelevant. We

00:26:10.940 don't bring that in here. That's not where we want to go. The deeper issue is that this gentleman

00:26:16.200 felt that he was making a case by doing that. And it shows the atmosphere going around Canada right

00:26:20.920 now, which is distressing, but all the same, it's something. So for people who want to get the whole

00:26:28.360 thing and maybe email me, I can send you a link to where the ruling is. It's hard to, it's a long

00:26:32.620 I think it's what, from Canly Online, I believe.

00:26:37.140 And send an email to me at cmorganatwesternstandardonline.com.

00:26:42.180 And I'll send you a link so you can read the whole ruling

00:26:44.400 because usually court rulings are pretty boring and dry to read.

00:26:48.120 That's why we pay guys like Derek to deal with it.

00:26:50.440 But in this case, it's actually quite an engaging read.

00:26:53.900 And it's, in my view, a bit inspiring to know

00:26:57.020 that there's still some people on the bench

00:26:58.360 who take that job very seriously on adjudicating

00:27:01.620 and you know, ruling and trying to keep fact in the courtroom. That's right. Yeah. So I'll bounce

00:27:07.760 on to another area now where we're talking about censorship and oddness. So a lot of people might

00:27:11.620 not know this, but you've been part of the heavy metal band for quite some time now.

00:27:15.920 Yeah. And yeah, I just wanted to, I got a picture to Nico to show my credentials to speak to this

00:27:21.920 sort of thing. I cut my teeth on Judas Priest and Iron Maiden and Crocus and some of those,

00:27:28.560 you know, Saxon, some of those earlier heavy metal bands in the more distant past. But I had

00:27:33.600 the hair, I had the single earring, and of course, all the black t-shirts to support my case at that.

00:27:38.420 I am coming from a position of authority on this subject. Yes, yes. But you were talking also,

00:27:43.740 so your band, though, recently put out a video on YouTube and a number of things, as bands will do,

00:27:49.740 and it was pretty contemporary. You were, you know, you had the footage of the protests and

00:27:54.700 and showed some Tiananmen squares comparisons,

00:27:57.480 and it got censored.

00:27:58.680 Yeah, it did, it was fascinating.

00:28:00.000 Yeah, so we recorded this song

00:28:04.260 and wanted to do a video for it

00:28:05.460 to announce that we had a new vocalist.

00:28:06.880 And we're a death metal band,

00:28:08.340 so I'm kind of tired of doing the vocals myself,

00:28:11.440 always gives me a headache.

00:28:12.680 And I'm kind of a wimp now that I'm old.

00:28:14.900 So we have a new vocalist,

00:28:16.280 and we recorded this song,

00:28:18.500 which was written by a Jewish guitarist,

00:28:21.280 that's relevant, as you'll see,

00:28:23.320 a Jewish guitarist from Montreal named Ari Eichmann.

00:28:26.060 And Ari wrote this song for a band named Quobadis about 20 years ago.

00:28:31.420 And I've been told since that time has transpired that what the song is actually about is about the Jewish ghettos in Poland in World War II.

00:28:39.780 It's a song called I Believe.

00:28:41.400 And it struck me after Jason Kenney's cohorts arrested a few pastors in the province last year that this was an appropriate song and somewhat relevant to Alberta.

00:28:52.880 so we decided let's record this song this will be like the test run of our new vocalist nick

00:28:57.680 and um and so finally uh when it came time to put the the video together the lyric video just to

00:29:04.240 tell our 10 fans uh about nick's joining the band um we decide hey let's use some of the

00:29:12.000 trucker protest video footage and uh so we sent our our um our video guy a couple of well actually

00:29:19.520 we sent them all youtube footage so it's footage from news services uh and it's all drawn from

00:29:25.680 youtube so there's Tiananmen Square as you say and then it kind of morphs into like more contemporary

00:29:31.840 with the truckers waving Canadian flags driving backs past crowds of people at perimeter highway

00:29:36.960 in Winnipeg and having a good time in front of the parliament buildings in Ottawa so it's very

00:29:43.920 fascinating so we recorded this song i i uploaded it the video to youtube and uh the vocalist uh

00:29:53.600 when he went to share it he noticed well actually there's there's three comments on the video but

00:29:57.200 they disappeared and comments have been disabled so logged into the account and like oh the video

00:30:05.120 has now been rated as plus 18. no idea why i mean it's death metal but people under the age of 18

00:30:13.760 listen to our style of music and uh certainly no reason there's no swearing there's no uh

00:30:19.920 graphic violence in the lyrics uh any violence in the protesters uh of protests of it's all footage

00:30:28.080 drawn directly from youtube often we actually intentionally left the the news source logo in

00:30:34.320 the corner and so you can see oh this is from global news oh this is from rebel this is from

00:30:39.200 you know whatever news source it is and um and so what ended up happening is uh over the next few

00:30:44.720 days youtube then not only to disable the comments gave it an 18 plus rating but then now have

00:30:49.920 subsequently deleted the video just removed it from the website because it promotes violence

00:30:57.280 against children and families which is absolutely hey there's my picture absolutely ludicrous like

00:31:07.040 it's just it's not even possible that it's that it's that way but um you know uh my vocalist

00:31:12.960 nick he was right from the beginning he said you know it's gonna get censored because it's gonna

00:31:18.320 get cast it's gonna be assumed to be anti-vax just like the truckers and nothing nothing could be

00:31:25.680 further from the truth i mean we're not taking an anti-vax position like the truckers we're taking

00:31:32.000 an anti-mandate position which is individualism individual autonomy and that's really what we're

00:31:40.160 after in the video and so we're thinking now of uh taking a step back getting the video remade

00:31:47.120 with 100 trucker footage and show them like sitting in hot tubs kids on bouncy castles

00:31:55.840 maybe even kneeling and praying like all this stuff happy people doing happy stuff yeah we'll

00:32:02.160 we'll see what how they how they decide it's against uh youtube standards now and you see

00:32:06.000 there you go there's a there's a logo in the corner um rt and it's this was all footage drawn

00:32:12.640 from youtube so it's it's um it's censored when it's paired with a message that says

00:32:20.240 individualism good and individual autonomy good and persecution of the individual bad

00:32:28.080 when it's when that footage is paired with that lyric message youtube doesn't like it it's violence

00:32:34.400 against children somehow yeah and it's just getting absurd you know and as claude was saying

00:32:38.960 put it on rumble actually it already is uh that's where this is from same sort of thing you want to

00:32:43.200 email me i can send you a link to that as well um as you said that's deaf metal it's more of a

00:32:47.840 different kind of vocals than than i listen to with my old metal but it's still a lot of people's

00:32:52.400 enjoyment certainly uh and again i mean you you handing it off i mean if rob halford can still

00:32:57.520 hit those notes today i don't see why you can't still do it yeah yeah then we'll leave people to

00:33:02.720 decide what notes can be hit when they listen to the song yeah and you talked about some of the

00:33:08.160 the other stuff with um i mean the the origins of heavy metal the roots of it i mean it's an

00:33:12.880 anti-establishment sort of music it's pushing back against authority uh that's why there was

00:33:19.440 such a strong development of it in in east germany or even in in uh the eastern europe i mean back

00:33:24.960 in the in the 80s that's where a lot of great stuff came out of because that was their their

00:33:29.120 means of expression and uh you know like any expression it should be protected that's right

00:33:33.920 and and and i i agree with that wholeheartedly uh heavy metal is just an example of avant-garde art

00:33:40.960 let's say and i i will defend that term art in this context um but it's it's that sort of fringes

00:33:48.720 fringe boundary where it's it's outside the norm that's where actual commentary still happens you

00:33:54.720 don't get social commentary by pricking up a christina aguilera whoever cd or you know sad

00:34:01.280 to say some of the the canadian mainstays uh like the tragically hip you're not going to get stunning

00:34:06.960 commentary on society from from bands like that but when you get out into the fringes into uh you

00:34:15.120 know more esoteric and that goes for visual arts painting uh for for novels everything it's when

00:34:22.400 you get out to that that's that's when you get actual commentary and so heavy metal has always

00:34:27.360 been uh an individual opposed to society that's why you see such anti-establishment in imagery

00:34:34.640 involved in the genre so often like you see anti-religious anti-state and the same thing

00:34:40.480 for punk and for hard rock and this is this is not only um incidental to the genre it's absolutely

00:34:49.440 necessary it's it forms part of the message you can't you can't write a hardcore punk song that

00:34:57.440 goes raw raw everything's okay the state is wonderful it'll take care of me that that the

00:35:02.640 message would not fit the medium. I was just gonna say, it's not a left-right thing. I mean,

00:35:08.560 if you look at Rage Against the Machine, for example, I mean, they're very left-leaning,

00:35:11.760 but they're raging against the establishment. I mean, almost as it's in their name or

00:35:16.560 Pantera, you know, vulgar display of power. They're pushing back and it's not necessarily

00:35:21.360 even a simple political ideology. It's people, young people often express just a means to 0.94

00:35:27.200 say they're not content with the status quo and it's been important.

00:35:30.560 yeah and that and that's very important like in my band sympathy we don't all agree on these issues

00:35:37.040 but the one thing we do agree on is that we're not status quo people and uh we we are somewhat

00:35:43.840 to a degree outsiders and uh we view ourselves that way in in opposition i guess you could say

00:35:49.920 or in contrast with what the status quo is and uh so i mean in like just to put this to bed i mean

00:35:57.040 there's there's people in my band that i think all of us have received vaccines i don't know that i

00:36:03.520 would never even dream of asking about that so it's ludicrous to say that we're anti-vax

00:36:09.360 yeah well and also it's ludicrous to say we're promoting violence against children

00:36:14.560 yeah well and the the uh again it's it's the the quelling of discourse it's it's trying to get

00:36:19.840 group think going on uh what is it belinda bringing up megadeth yeah that's one of the

00:36:22.960 of the ones from my youth too peace sells uh but again they were talking about issues and things

00:36:28.620 such as that uh but in in a way that people enjoy through music and it's an art form as you said just

00:36:33.340 like other uh visual arts or written art i mean again look back to uh neil young when he sang

00:36:39.300 about kent state you know the establishment didn't want to hear about that they didn't want your

00:36:42.860 average listener to you know realize that university protesters got gunned down and uh i'm sure a lot

00:36:49.320 people would have loved to have censored him at that time yeah uh we we just don't want to go

00:36:53.800 down this road and it's a forgotten area well just because it's you know death metal i mean we should

00:36:57.300 just ignore it well no this is a artistic expression that we really should be protecting

00:37:01.020 yeah yeah it is it is a commentary and uh i i think what's and the dovetail back to the

00:37:07.740 the court decision um it's that sort of shutting off of debate and not not to say that social

00:37:16.300 debate needs to happen in the context of death metal because that would be a very poor way to

00:37:20.220 have a debate but um it's indicative of a problem we have in society where our first reflex is to

00:37:27.060 cancel and uh i mean that was the father's problem in that court decision is his reflex was not to

00:37:34.800 bring evidence but to seek to cancel his wife's opinions and that's exactly what's what's happened

00:37:40.740 to me and my band with YouTube is instead of actually being able to judge the content I'm

00:37:47.440 assuming it was more than an algorithm at the point where they delete someone probably viewed it

00:37:51.420 and their reflex was to cancel and that's that's a sad state because it's sort of impoverished

00:37:58.600 and and I always think back to something that Christopher Hitchens said before he died is that

00:38:05.820 he he made an observation that there's this idea in Canada about well it wasn't Canada in particular

00:38:10.260 but multiculturalism that it was such a wonderful thing i wouldn't say that it's not but what it's

00:38:17.300 become is very different than actual multiculturalism his his point was that it's a very

00:38:23.140 surface thing it's like well i can go buy a curry down the street in london or i can go to a chinese

00:38:28.340 restaurant it people's notion is multiculturalism is different types of food and the clothes you

00:38:34.180 wear but if we if we have actual diversity of opinion well that's too much as long as we all

00:38:42.980 believe the same thing and think exactly the same thing we can eat different foods and dress

00:38:47.700 differently that's great that's canada that's super no multiculturalism has to mean more than

00:38:55.220 that it has to also mean diversity of opinion in a diversity of views it has to go below the

00:39:00.500 the surface. It has to be much more. We can't be cancelling other people because that means we're

00:39:06.520 only more impoverished in our own views when we do that. And it's a sad reflex. It's pathetic.

00:39:11.960 It is. Diversity through conformity. As ridiculous as that statement is, that's where they're trying 0.99

00:39:17.440 to go with it. And it's an absurdity. At least we're in an incredible time that, hey, YouTube

00:39:22.860 can shut you down, but you're springing up over on Rumble. And we are getting more and more means

00:39:27.920 of getting it out no matter how much the state

00:39:30.000 and others, the social media giants

00:39:32.060 want to play whack-a-mole and keep

00:39:33.980 a singular message going on out there

00:39:35.960 it still leaks out the sides

00:39:38.160 and people who would participate

00:39:40.040 in something like heavy metal or some of the hard rock

00:39:41.960 or punk, they're not going to let themselves get

00:39:43.560 shut down by these little efforts

00:39:45.600 either, so

00:39:46.780 I appreciate you guys pushing on and some others

00:39:49.820 are saying they're looking forward to your

00:39:51.080 remastered video if that's what you do

00:39:53.620 and just that reminder then, so your band's name is Sympathy

00:39:55.780 you're on Rumble and

00:39:57.740 where else can we find what you're doing legally and stuff like that before i let you go well you

00:40:01.200 can also find the band on band camp and uh we have a few releases up there it's uh you can take a

00:40:07.480 listen uh you can also uh catch me often in the western standard on twitter also um derek james

00:40:14.220 from i say too much and have too many opinions and share them too freely i just don't care anymore

00:40:20.340 and uh i i'm at uh warnock craft anderson in erdry where i'm practicing law right on well

00:40:27.460 good to see you again Derek and yeah it was an interesting discussion so you know it says we can

00:40:32.180 mix politics with music and all sorts of stuff yeah that's right so I'll talk to you again soon

00:40:37.320 I'm sure okay bye-bye thanks so yes that was Derek from lawyer death metal former singer extraordinaire

00:40:45.120 guitars the whole works and yeah check out that picture online with that hair he's got those ones

00:40:49.280 in his past too so uh oh that was it was a good talk and again I mean as you're saying it's that

00:40:54.980 first instinct. The instincts, I don't like that, shut it down. Well, hang on. You don't like it?

00:40:58.640 Don't listen. Let it go. But that's not where we are. We're at this centralized area of thought

00:41:04.860 that this person is associated there. That's why we have to shut down their voice. This person

00:41:08.780 addressed that. That's why we have to shut them down. This is not a good development in society.

00:41:14.240 This is not moving forward as people. This is not healthy. And it goes all the way down,

00:41:19.740 all the way from the top on extremely important court hearings with families, all the way down to

00:41:24.820 again, expression through things like bands or as Derek said, I mean, the art pieces, artists

00:41:30.020 throughout history. I mean, we're talking to medieval times where people who helped inspire

00:41:36.220 change and inspire different thinking. And, you know, you can't shut it down. It's bad for society.

00:41:43.300 So I'm going to go to an ad break here before I talk about some more new stuff.

00:41:46.940 Let's talk about the Canada Shooting Sports Association. Speaking of freedoms,

00:41:50.460 speaking of things that the government doesn't want us to have. They do not want you to have,

00:41:55.060 enjoy, trade, collect firearms. You know, most of us, well, I don't know, a lot of people,

00:42:01.080 millions of Canadians safely, responsibly enjoy firearms all the time, whether they're hunting,

00:42:05.380 target, shooting, collecting, it doesn't matter. As long as they're not harming anybody else,

00:42:09.360 it's nobody's business what they do with the firearms. Well, the Canada Shooting Sports

00:42:12.900 Association, I mean, their name says it all. They're an association for the people who enjoy

00:42:16.400 firearms and to give you the means to enjoy them and resources, everything from trade shows to

00:42:23.320 videos on safe handling of firearms. And I like to think most importantly is they are, I've got

00:42:30.360 court challenges out there. They're standing up on behalf of firearm owners. They're pushing back

00:42:34.820 against the liberal government because the government's trying to take these away and

00:42:38.400 you need to join them. That's the, you see, nobody else is going to stand up for you as a firearms

00:42:43.320 owner, you got to stand up for yourself. And these guys need members, get on there, check them out,

00:42:48.100 take out a membership so they can keep helping you keep your firearms. It's a Canadian shooting 0.99

00:42:54.200 sports association. It's easiest just to Google it and find it, but their website also is cssa-cila.org.

00:43:03.200 And yeah, you know, support those guys, take out a membership. It's important.

00:43:07.620 All right. So let's talk about, you know, we're going to be on the pipeline this afternoon,

00:43:12.540 by the way, with Derek Fildebrand. And I think we're going to have Melanie because Dave, as he

00:43:17.240 said, had to get his car repaired. We're going to talk about some of the stuff in Ukraine.

00:43:20.720 Let's talk about some of the nuanced discussion we've seen online going on already. Kamala Harris,

00:43:25.400 the American vice president. This is a quote from her. This is the discourse level at the top levels

00:43:30.780 of government in the United States right now. Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next

00:43:38.440 to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country.

00:43:45.080 Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically, that's wrong.

00:43:51.880 Sounded like a female Trudeau. I'm surprised this wasn't put into a pop-up book. 0.86

00:43:57.460 Who are you talking to? I mean, what a condescending shallow... I mean, we're talking 1.00

00:44:03.400 about a potential world war going on. We got a nuclear power invading a European nation and you

00:44:10.800 and you talk like an imbecile. And this is the, you know, as Dave put the other day, you know,

00:44:15.340 as people say, one breath away from the presidency. And I mean, Biden, I guess if anybody wants to

00:44:22.780 make sure Biden remains healthy and is cognitively capable as possible, there's another reason for it

00:44:27.720 because if for some reason he's not the president, that's what we've got. Look at that. North America

00:44:32.920 I'll have Justin Trudeau at the head over here and Kamala Harris down there in the United States.

00:44:38.900 What a frightening thought, again, especially in a world going on right now with turmoil.

00:44:44.340 Let's see what else we've got going on the news scroll.

00:44:46.600 You know something going on?

00:44:47.420 I've been watching City Council.

00:44:48.760 I'm going to be interviewing Sonia Sharp in the future here, and we're going to talk about some of the stuff there.

00:44:54.560 She's been a very impressive councillor, actually, most definitely her own person.

00:44:57.880 And some people kind of thought everybody with a union endorsement is going to toe the line for the unions and do things like that.

00:45:04.800 No, she's been actually very outspoken and nuanced and is most definitely her own person when it comes to policies and things.

00:45:10.740 So that's refreshing out of City Hall and councillors.

00:45:14.680 And something we've got now kind of ripening up into a battle, and I'm a little torn on it, is Jason Kinney and the UCP are looking to amend the Municipalities Act.

00:45:25.240 That's a mouthful, isn't it?

00:45:26.080 Maybe they should amend it just to make it shorter so I can pronounce it on the shows properly.

00:45:31.280 So that municipal governments can't keep things like mask mandates or vaccine passports and things such as that on the go.

00:45:41.200 And I'm kind of mixed.

00:45:43.100 I don't like when I see the more distant central government coming down on the localized government.

00:45:49.760 At the same time, I don't like seeing localized government overriding the health authorities and doing things that are outside of their jurisdiction.

00:45:55.680 So this is actually a little more complicated than one would think.

00:45:59.420 I mean, most of why SOHI and Gondek didn't want to go off of the mandates and things like that in the past is it's about control.

00:46:07.040 And it's about having a pissing match with the premier.

00:46:10.100 I mean, they're fighting back and forth.

00:46:11.840 They just want to make sure they have that ability.

00:46:15.360 But at the same time, how often do you want the provincial government to override your local one?

00:46:23.160 You know, I hate to say it, but what if we had Premier Notley again?

00:46:25.960 Do you want her in charge of development in your area or region? 0.98

00:46:29.200 Do you want her to override your locally elected officials?

00:46:32.960 So we're getting into some difficult waters going on there right now.

00:46:36.220 But at the same time, I mean, I think it's ridiculous that Sohi in Edmonton is keeping a mask mandate going on while the rest of the province doesn't have one.

00:46:43.820 It's a punitive measure against not just the people there, but the businesses.

00:46:47.940 Think about the people who own businesses anywhere around the periphery of Edmonton.

00:46:52.860 You've got satellite cities all the way around that city.

00:46:55.640 Shoppers will, and I know they will.

00:46:57.240 I've done it.

00:46:58.320 They will leave the area to go shop unmasked.

00:47:01.100 They will leave the area to go dine where they don't have to put a chin diaper on to

00:47:04.560 go to the bathroom. 1.00

00:47:05.720 They'll do it.

00:47:06.340 And it's going to hurt their local businesses that have already been hurting enough over

00:47:10.120 this whole bloody pandemic from start to end.

00:47:14.340 So, I mean, it's a stupid, stupid decision on the part of Edmonton's council and mayor

00:47:18.620 and a bad one.

00:47:19.960 but at the same time, how much do we want the provincial government to be the ones to come in

00:47:26.660 and crack down on it? It's tough. I mean, and I look at the same thing, you know, when Gondek

00:47:30.860 keeps like going on, you know, the government should intervene and pull Sean Chu out of the

00:47:34.720 council in Calgary. They should rip them out of there. Okay. Do you really want the premier to

00:47:41.900 do that? We don't like this elected official, so we're going to just rip them out of there.

00:47:45.480 We don't like that one, so we're just going to pull them out. Are you sure you want that,

00:47:47.840 Gondek? Maybe, maybe the premier won't like you. It defeats the purpose of having a local election.

00:47:53.760 And I know there's a lot of controversy with Sean Chu, and it should be up to the electors

00:47:57.700 to deal with that, not the Alberta government. I'm not saying whether Sean should be there or not.

00:48:03.300 Again, that decision, though, should land on the people of Ward 4. And maybe if Kenny actually

00:48:08.340 brought in real recall legislation, that decision could be brought to them sooner rather than later.

00:48:11.880 But for the time being, I don't think Gondek really, this shows how two-faced she is.

00:48:18.840 She's upset if Kennedy's going to bring in that legislation, but at the same time, she

00:48:22.000 wants Kennedy to overstep and move in on removing elected officials that she doesn't like.

00:48:27.240 So we just got to be careful with policy.

00:48:28.960 Got to be careful with authority.

00:48:30.400 You want to watch.

00:48:31.500 I like government to be as close to people as possible.

00:48:35.280 But at the same time, I don't want city council to be in charge of health care in general.

00:48:40.080 I mean, look at those guys.

00:48:40.840 They're a bunch of morons.

00:48:42.400 They can barely run their own meetings as it sits.

00:48:44.560 You know, there's a few bright lights in there,

00:48:45.840 but for the most part, these guys do idiot things.

00:48:47.940 I don't want them in charge of our healthcare system.

00:48:49.780 They can barely get the snow off our streets

00:48:51.260 or to pick the garbage up on time. 0.98

00:48:54.300 So politics, politics, politics.

00:48:56.960 I mean, maybe if Kenny coupled his thing

00:48:59.120 with a regional plan,

00:49:00.280 like something for regional responses

00:49:01.680 if the pandemic was going to keep going.

00:49:03.400 I remember an area that Drew Barnes,

00:49:04.860 before he got kicked out of caucus even,

00:49:06.520 was very strong in.

00:49:07.580 He was pointing out that,

00:49:08.860 well, if we look at the numbers,

00:49:10.240 infections, hospitalizations,

00:49:11.880 Medicine Hat had very, very few when the province was locked down. But I mean,

00:49:15.900 in the bigger cities and some other areas, it was getting strong, but Medicine Hat was okay.

00:49:19.440 And he was saying, well, why don't you lift the regulations here in Medicine Hat for us then?

00:49:24.280 I mean, maybe that could make it a little more understandable. You can address certain areas

00:49:28.480 rather than having a central government do the same thing across the entire province. That's a

00:49:32.360 better way to govern, you know, reflect regional realities and views and things such as that.

00:49:37.380 Uh, let's see what else we got. Yeah. Cabinet yesterday, they faced demands at target Russian

00:49:43.760 investors, uh, in Canada, including billionaire owners of a federally subsidized Regina steel

00:49:49.120 mill once toured by finance minister, Chrystia Freeland. Uh, let's see what this liberal appointed

00:49:55.780 Senator said, punishing Russia for its invasion of Ukraine may involve some sacrifice for us,

00:49:59.600 said the liberal appointed Senator. Uh, situation calls for Canada to do everything it can. Uh,

00:50:05.200 This is Brett Cotter in Saskatchewan. He raised the need for the imposition of sanctions on

00:50:08.900 Russian businesses in Canada, not just freezing their bank accounts. Okay. And so this is where

00:50:12.760 things start getting challenging as well and difficult as you can see with the graphic that

00:50:17.420 Nico brought up. We do want to push back. We do want to, you know, exert what we can against the

00:50:24.300 Russian, you know, invasion going on over there. But at the same time, how much damage do we want 1.00

00:50:29.620 to do to ourself? And I'm not worried so much even about the owners of this facility. And it

00:50:34.300 sounds like it took some subsidies from the tax dollars as it is. So we're stuck owning it already,

00:50:38.980 which we shouldn't be doing in the first place. But there are going to be a lot of people put

00:50:42.660 out of work if we start shutting down those businesses that are interspersed with foreign

00:50:46.040 ownership. So tread carefully, I guess is all I could say to that. Make sure you watch your

00:50:54.540 policies. Don't do knee-jerk things. And we're seeing a lot of knee-jerk governance going on

00:50:59.340 Canada these days in general. In the question period there, was it Cotter specifically named

00:51:06.040 Evraz? It's a publicly traded steel pipe manufacturer. It's got mills and facilities

00:51:10.260 in Regina, Calgary, Red Deer, and Camrose. It's very Western. It's the largest steelmaker west

00:51:16.000 of the Great Lakes. So how many people, how many Canadians are you willing to put out of work 0.74

00:51:20.720 though with these sanctions? And maybe we should, I don't know. I'm not saying this is a good idea

00:51:25.040 a bad idea at this point. I'm just saying this is where policy isn't as cut and dry as a lot of

00:51:30.120 people think. As I kind of said earlier, economic sanctions are really the only power we've got at

00:51:36.100 this point as a nation. We don't have the military forces to be able to do much to push Russia and 0.60

00:51:40.900 we don't want to. Do you really want to send Canadian forces into Ukraine right now? Of course

00:51:45.700 not. I mean, not only would that turn that from a conflict between two nations into a military one

00:51:51.760 between a number of them. But I don't think we want to see our young Canadians going over there

00:51:57.400 and potentially dying for this, even if we're concerned. So we're in a complicated period of

00:52:06.400 world policy, whilst we unfortunately have some simplistic leadership. And getting to

00:52:12.080 Kamala Harris and Justin Trudeau and then the concerns about them right now,

00:52:16.500 I just hope that the smarter minds can prevail. I hope both of them are handing off the diplomatic

00:52:23.440 roles to people who are better in that, who are a little better educated and can think a little

00:52:29.220 better on their feet than those two. Because if those two baboons are the ones, oh, please don't 1.00

00:52:35.480 misinterpret what I was saying with that. I meant more of clowns, are the ones making those policies 1.00

00:52:41.500 over there. We're going to be in for a world war at the rate they go. I mean, let's talk about 0.92

00:52:45.500 stupid government policy here right now. Wait a minute. Here we go with Gary saying Russia's on

00:52:51.640 the right side of history. Okay. We can have this debate with viewers. And I've heard a bit of that 0.93

00:52:56.420 from people. Guys, they invaded Ukraine. There's no right side there. You can have legitimate beefs 0.99

00:53:03.420 with Ukraine. You can have sanctions with Ukraine. You can even talk about the little regions on the

00:53:08.160 side. But no, no, they are not in the right side of history. They're invading what was a peaceful,

00:53:12.800 sovereign nation. It's not the right side of history. This is expansionist. This is what

00:53:19.860 leads to world wars. This is the problem. I mean, Hitler was bad enough with his own country

00:53:26.760 until he popped on into Poland. And then we started to get a much bigger problem. And of 0.91

00:53:33.320 course, he kept expanding from there. And they are certainly not on the right side of history.

00:53:38.060 And no, no, there's no excuse for Russia going into Ukraine. And people said, oh,

00:53:42.240 there was corruption going on in Ukraine. Well, probably. Well, that's pretty common in Eastern 0.99

00:53:46.520 Europe, unfortunately. I saw a lot of that when I was over there. As well, I mean, they were saying, 1.00

00:53:52.860 oh, we've got some neo-Nazi movements. Well, again, unfortunately, when you get millions of

00:53:56.720 people, yeah, you're going to get a handful of those kind of idiots. You always do. It doesn't

00:54:00.380 mean that the neighboring nation can invade and take over the nation to deal with it.

00:54:05.040 You know, I'm sure we've got some sort of chapter of neo-Nazi peckerheads somewhere in Canada.

00:54:10.020 Does that mean the United States would be justified in saying, we're going to come in and take over Canada to stop that?

00:54:17.600 No.

00:54:18.940 I'm sorry, guys.

00:54:19.840 This is Putin's thing.

00:54:21.320 And we're seeing Russians protesting as well.

00:54:24.060 The Russian citizens aren't so terribly thrilled with this whole thing either.

00:54:28.320 And I just don't.

00:54:30.140 I mean, again, we can disagree.

00:54:31.560 And clearly we do. 0.61

00:54:32.560 That's fine. 0.75

00:54:33.900 But I do not see Russia being on the right side of history in this whatsoever. 0.83

00:54:37.120 ever. You know, NATO wasn't much of anything. What? Why so many of you guys, Ukraine's not 0.62

00:54:46.660 peaceful? Really? Was Ukraine going to invade Russia? Ukraine committed genocide on the Russians

00:54:53.380 living in Ukraine? B.S. That's just B.S. So you see, this is what I'm talking about. We've got

00:54:57.980 to get on to real discussions, guys, not this crap that's going around. And, you know, there's

00:55:05.780 problems. It's a complicated area. There's definitely things. Educate myself before

00:55:10.080 condemning Russia. I have. I've been there. Have you? I've been to Ukraine as well. They're 0.82

00:55:15.580 complicated. Yeah. Eastern Ukraine, I think there probably is a majority of them would rather be

00:55:19.360 Russian. And these are tight-knit nations next to each other. But it doesn't justify invading

00:55:26.320 a peaceful country. It doesn't. So make your excuses, guys. Most of the world, and if we're

00:55:32.340 talking about history, they're not supporting. You guys are supporting Putin. That's fine. If

00:55:36.560 you're into dictators, go to town. I'm not. And I'm sorry, but I am not going to support

00:55:43.900 the peaceful invasion. Not peaceful invasion, the violent invasion of a peaceful neighbor.

00:55:51.020 So let's move on to some other things. Let's talk about snowmobiles for northerners.

00:55:54.960 Speaking of government getting into areas they shouldn't. So the Department of Crown

00:55:58.460 indigenous relations uh dave talked about that earlier talked about free snowmobiles being

00:56:02.540 purchased under a multi-million dollar program to promote indigenous hunting and berry picking

00:56:07.340 uh i spent a a few years up in uh working in the inuvik area in tuktuk when i was in the oil field

00:56:14.540 as well you know they got a thing because a lot of people are probably uh oh dallas is disgusted

00:56:19.180 with me well go away dallas so uh you could they had what's called the rangers i think they're

00:56:25.260 still going up there. I mean, this is getting back to the Cold War days, you know, they would

00:56:29.460 give old 303s to the local natives and have them patrol the Arctic. I mean, to a degree, there was,

00:56:35.040 you didn't have the sort of modern, you know, satellite imagery radar, things like that. So

00:56:38.920 you did need the dew line, you need people on the ground and stuff like that to keep an eye on our

00:56:43.200 northern area. I don't think they could have held off a Russian invasion back then, but they could 0.92

00:56:47.240 be that first warning and then first line of defense, I guess you can, you could say up in

00:56:53.920 the north and things like that. They used to give them snowmobiles for that. But I mean, that

00:56:57.060 need is gone. So now they've moved on and say, well, now they need it for hunting.

00:57:03.020 This is interesting. You know, one of the problems, and I dealt with that when we were

00:57:08.460 out on the ice and Tuk-Tuk-Tuk and areas like that. And we actually shared our camp with

00:57:12.520 researchers because they didn't have the budget to get out there on the ice and look at things

00:57:16.360 in the Arctic. But we had the budget as an oil company out there to do it. So we actually hosted

00:57:21.440 them let them come in there. There was one where they were studying seal populations out near

00:57:26.880 Tuk-Tayaktuk and there was this drill ship that was frozen into the ice nearby. And essentially

00:57:32.100 they'd already come up with a hypothesis saying seal populations are definitely going to be

00:57:35.820 lower because the drilling up there is going to scare them away and the Beaufort Sea and it's

00:57:40.780 really going to disrupt them. And they brought these dogs up. This shows how bright they were

00:57:45.080 too. And we saw the video of it. It was sad actually. They brought up these gold retrievers

00:57:49.340 and such that they had trained to sniff out seal holes. And they'd done it through seal scent in

00:57:54.820 hockey rinks and things. So they could train the dog to get out and smell where there's been seals

00:57:59.880 and such. And they brought them to the Arctic. I think they believe like David Suzuki's lines

00:58:06.300 and things like that on how cold it is up there. And it's incredibly cold. You've never felt cold

00:58:14.660 till you've been on the Beaufort Sea in February. I tell you, the wind never stops. We're talking

00:58:18.760 a thermometer temperature where you're averaging minus 40. I mean, the wind chill when you put it

00:58:22.600 on top of that is just obscene. I don't know how the polar bears and the ptarmigan and the

00:58:26.420 Arctic foxes really managed to survive up there, but they do. Either way, the first thing that

00:58:30.820 happened is a bunch of these dogs had their feet amputated because they froze their feet off when

00:58:33.900 these idiots took them out there to try and find the seal holes. It was stupid. Then they went out

00:58:39.520 further and they did manage to find and check and tag some seals and everything. And what they

00:58:44.780 discovered was right around the drill ship where they figured the seals were all going to be chased

00:58:47.920 away and scared off. There were loads of them. In fact, there were more seals than they expected

00:58:53.020 because so it blew their hypothesis. We didn't hear much about that study afterwards because

00:58:57.340 it didn't come to the conclusion they wanted to hear. The other thing they discovered was there

00:59:00.140 was a lot of polar bears around there and they were shocked. Like how do we got so many polar

00:59:04.060 bears around here? Well, because polar bears eat seals, they follow the seals. But they said, yes,

00:59:07.880 but we got the numbers from around Tuktoyaktuk. And this is where I'm coming around in a long way

00:59:11.480 with this story here, but it's some truth to it. There are very few polar bears around Tuktoyaktuk.

00:59:16.340 Well, yes. But why is that the case? It's because the locals there had snowmobiles and rifles.

00:59:22.700 They've shot all the polar bears. They've hunted the seals. The numbers are down. Anywhere within

00:59:27.820 snowmobile range of a center in the Arctic, you're not going to have a lot of games. Same thing with

00:59:31.620 the caribou. But you get out like us as the oil field and so on, get farther beyond it,

00:59:36.560 then you do see a lot of wildlife in the Arctic, in fact. And a lot of the numbers they reflect,

00:59:41.940 see all these studies can afford is to get into populated areas and check the numbers. But it

00:59:47.420 gives a skewed number. If you get outside a snowmobile range, you're going to see much larger

00:59:52.280 natural wildlife numbers going on out there. Either way, now we're getting to this. We have

00:59:57.440 to give free machines to the Inuit and so on so they can hunt and get farther up there, I guess.

01:00:01.960 And the interesting thing, too, is they also said to promote berry picking. Look, in berry season,

01:00:07.640 snowmobiles aren't terribly handy. So they might want to research a little more on their

01:00:11.640 justification for this as well. I don't want to take the snowmobiles away from people living in

01:00:16.340 the Arctic. Those are essential tools for getting around and machines and such. And

01:00:21.780 at the same time, is it our obligation as taxpayers, though, to keep funding these sorts

01:00:26.740 of things? I mean, we're funding a population in the deep north. And I think we've got to be

01:00:33.620 justifying why do we want them up there necessarily if it's unsustainable? Do you want to keep it as

01:00:39.100 a permanent welfare state? Do we want to constantly fund people just to sit there? I think that's

01:00:43.660 some of what people kind of keep in mind. You know, they like to envision this little zoo where

01:00:48.240 First Nations people just live in this traditional lifestyle in little areas. And, you know,

01:00:53.200 the people who promote this are usually hipsters down south who like the urban modern living.

01:00:57.580 They enjoy that. They wouldn't want to live up in that, but they want to make sure to fund and keep

01:01:02.640 other people living up in that. Look, guys, if you've gone up there, check it out. These are

01:01:08.040 houses, they aren't living in igloos anymore. Of course not. They're living in houses that are up

01:01:11.720 on stilts because of the permafrost and they rely on diesel and gas to keep themselves warm and keep

01:01:18.140 their power going. Every house has a satellite dish and they have snowmobiles. They're people

01:01:22.520 like everyone else. They want comforts and of course they should have them. So, but if you're

01:01:25.540 trying to keep this, this, this mental vision that you're keeping a little enclave of traditional

01:01:30.860 little Inuit people up in the North, it's not happening. I don't see, I mean, if there's not

01:01:36.500 enough trade and hunting, if there's not enough benefit in it for them to pay for their own

01:01:40.360 snowmobiles, maybe it's time to stop supplying them. And I'm sorry, but if you can't make it

01:01:45.840 up there, maybe it's time to move down south. How long do we want to expand the population? Or if

01:01:49.760 they really want to, I can have a much longer discussion on that. Get the McKenzie Valley

01:01:53.860 pipeline done. You know, part of what was going to happen with that pipeline, if it ever got

01:01:57.480 finished, was it was going to come with a land road following the pipeline right away, all the

01:02:02.520 way up through Yellowknife, which right now it stops at Norman Wells, and you've still got about

01:02:06.520 a 700 kilometer gap. And you have to, to get to Inuvik and Tuck, you have to drive all the way

01:02:10.900 around through Whitehorse and then over the Dempster Highway. It's a beautiful drive, by the

01:02:13.840 way, but it's a rugged one and a long one. You can cut a day off of that, go straight up McKenzie

01:02:20.260 Valley and get up to Inuvik. And the pipeline was going to provide that as well. And they were

01:02:24.220 training people up there. They got colleges up there. They were putting people to work who would

01:02:27.240 work in the energy sector up there. But then the government regulated to death. I mean, years and

01:02:31.480 years, it started with the Berger Commission in the 70s on that pipeline. Like there's another

01:02:34.660 Alberta with the oil and gas up the Mackenzie Delta. It's loads of it up there. I spent years

01:02:39.280 on the exploration up there and we can develop it. Speaking of energy security for Canada,

01:02:44.800 but the government dragged their feet so long on that pipeline and made them study so much. 0.88

01:02:49.320 We wasted billions on that thing. It wasn't canceled. It was just like Energy East.

01:02:53.960 All the proponents and companies just said, oh, you guys made it so expensive. We're out. We're

01:02:57.240 done. We're finished. They didn't spend all those billions thinking it was going to be cancelled.

01:03:01.920 They wanted to bring it in and it would be worthwhile. It sure would be a nice pipe to

01:03:05.120 have right now, wouldn't it? The price of oil and gas. But, and it was just going to be gas to start,

01:03:10.180 but they were going to move on to liquids, but it's shut down. If you want to maintain

01:03:14.100 a population in the Arctic, you have to find some industries that are worth developing.

01:03:18.980 And oil and gas is a big one of them. And a lot of the people would like to work on it. They'd

01:03:22.300 like to make a living like anybody else. What else are you going to do up there besides subsistence

01:03:27.200 living. There's very limited tourism up there. There's no logging. If you've been up the taiga

01:03:32.220 before you hit the tundra, there's no decent logging for hundreds and hundreds of miles to

01:03:37.240 get up there. Fishing is limited. You can get a bit of char and so on, but again, that gets more

01:03:41.280 into subsistence and specialty sort of things, hunting tours, a little bit of that, but you can't

01:03:45.560 sustain much of a population up there. So rather than sending snowmobiles up there, we should be

01:03:52.360 figuring out how to make them independent. And that does apply to a lot of people in isolated

01:03:57.520 reserves, even if it's below the Arctic Circle. But again, the Canadian way, now let's just keep 0.98

01:04:01.840 throwing more stuff out there. Let's see. Oh, here's another. The Senate's been having a lot

01:04:08.380 of good discussions lately. So this is another interesting one. Materials used by the renewable

01:04:11.960 energy sector are often produced by slave labor. This is the Senate Human Rights Committee. They

01:04:16.520 were told this in testimonies. Forced labor, including children used in supply chains that

01:04:22.000 produce electric car batteries and wind turbine parts. So yeah, you know, again, speaking of

01:04:26.980 greenwashing, you know, speaking of the hipsters who like their gas-fired latte, but still want

01:04:30.920 to shut down the means of producing it somewhere else. When you want to go green, you want to bring

01:04:36.300 in these electric cars. You need some heavy metals. You need a lot of items, specialized woods for

01:04:41.940 wind turbines, things like that. Well, it's making a mess in other places. You're not doing the

01:04:46.420 environment a favor and you're not doing human rights a favor. When you've got some countries

01:04:51.040 that don't have good human rights.

01:04:52.500 I mean, so this is where it's from the set of testimony.

01:04:55.400 It said, look at renewable energy supply chain issues.

01:04:57.720 You have situations like the Democratic Republic of Congo

01:04:59.780 where 35,000 children used in child labor mining cobalt,

01:05:03.380 which is used in lithium ion batteries and electric cars.

01:05:07.020 Now, let's develop more industries in Congo

01:05:10.080 and in places like that.

01:05:11.120 We want to see them prosper as well.

01:05:12.520 But at the same time,

01:05:13.200 we want to have a standard of human rights going on in there.

01:05:16.480 People don't like thinking about that.

01:05:18.120 They don't like thinking about that.

01:05:19.060 We don't want to develop Alberta oil and gas.

01:05:21.040 where we have the B.C. and Saskatchewan and the Yukon

01:05:25.120 and the Northwest Territories.

01:05:26.560 We don't want to develop that because it's bad, it's bad.

01:05:29.040 Even though we have human rights here,

01:05:31.040 we, you know, labor protections, environmental protections,

01:05:33.180 we have all those things, but apparently we're still bad.

01:05:35.800 And then we kind of put on our own blinders

01:05:37.740 to what the alternatives are,

01:05:39.880 which is things such as that going on in the Congo and stuff.

01:05:44.940 We can't just keep ignoring, you know, action, reaction.

01:05:48.440 There's not enough discussion of these things

01:05:50.500 and it's costing all of us getting more into federal issues. I'm afraid it looks like Kid

01:05:54.520 Carson isn't going to make it today. He was scheduled for some time back. Maybe he'll pop

01:05:58.560 in. I'll talk a little longer. It's too bad. I was really looking forward to speaking with him.

01:06:02.480 We'll see if we can reconnect and find out what went wrong in the communications with that.

01:06:06.580 But either way, some of this other stuff coming up, a public service commission

01:06:11.320 was told about nepotism. This is a real shocker in the federal hiring. 53%

01:06:17.020 felt that appointments depend on who you know. Now that applies to the private market in a lot

01:06:21.600 of situations as well. But I mean, it is a problem. 47% of employees agreed with the statement

01:06:28.700 appointments don't depend on who you know. So it's kind of split. There's questionnaires with

01:06:32.880 75,000 federal workers, but you got to remember if half of those federal workers got their jobs

01:06:36.820 because of nepotism in the first place, they're not going to want to point out how bad it was.

01:06:40.420 So I got a feeling that number might be a good deal higher than that. This is from Patrick

01:06:45.360 there's still areas for improvement. Yeah, you think, and the commission's going to work on it.

01:06:50.180 Either way, nepotism is supposedly a firing offense in the public service. I doubt anybody's

01:06:54.340 really been fired for it yet, though. I mean, the guy who is in charge of firing probably has a

01:06:58.640 cousin who's a member of parliament who's got a friend who's a cabinet minister. So it's probably

01:07:03.380 not going to happen. As Dave also said, yes, they're hiring consultants to check the work

01:07:08.200 of other consultants in the multi-billion dollar Phoenix pay system failure. That thing is

01:07:13.120 something else. If you really want to read a tragedy of bureaucracy, read about the Phoenix

01:07:17.280 pay system and the federal government. These guys can't even pay themselves right. That's how bad

01:07:22.140 they are. And it's funny with some of those statements, our government's really committed

01:07:25.700 to providing high quality services to Canadians. We want this to ensure the best value for

01:07:31.460 taxpayers. It's fortunate. Really? Really? You can't even get your payroll right in 20 years,

01:07:36.040 guys. I find it very difficult to believe that you're that committed to giving us quality

01:07:41.100 services for our tax dollars uh residential real estate ban that's kind of dull finance committee

01:07:51.020 all right i think it's time to move on just to talk about what we are going to do tomorrow

01:07:55.260 i'm assuming my guests are showing up tomorrow we've got uh joseph quennell actually he's from

01:07:59.340 the frontier center in public policy and he's been writing uh he writes predominantly on

01:08:03.340 indigenous issues and we're going to talk a bit about residential schools i mean it's a

01:08:06.700 a hot button area. It's definitely, you know, worthy of some more open discussion. People are

01:08:12.040 afraid of that subject. It's a sensitive one, but it's a big one. And talking to Joseph about it at

01:08:17.480 length is going to be very good and important. Somebody's saying, how about Tamara? I haven't

01:08:21.680 had a chance. I asked the newsroom to let me know if there's any ruling on her bail at this point.

01:08:27.000 And I haven't gotten any updates. So I imagine they're still dragging their feet. When we started

01:08:30.780 the show, they'd gone to recess. I mean, again, you know, it's a bail hearing. It shouldn't take

01:08:35.360 this long, but they really seem determined to keep this person locked up because she committed

01:08:40.860 the crime of encouraging mischief. Yes, this is quite. Paul Hinman, when can we get him on? I've

01:08:47.980 had Paul on a couple of times. And yeah, I'll probably get him again before the end of the

01:08:52.540 by-election up in Fort McMurray and see where things are sitting. Right now, that's still

01:08:58.500 ongoing. And yeah, it's sliding under the radar. What are we, two weeks away from election day up

01:09:03.340 there in Fort Mac in that by-election and it's put Paul's campaigning his butt off. He's been

01:09:07.760 there for a couple of months on it. And I think there's like eight other candidates in it, but

01:09:11.200 realistically, I think it's the only ones to watch are going to be the UCP, of course, the NDP and

01:09:16.560 Paul Hinman. The rest are typically just the usual also-rans, but we'll see. We'll see. I don't

01:09:22.660 dismiss everybody. I've been in also-ran in elections myself. Carmen, yeah, they brought

01:09:28.500 her in with shackles. You know, that was how insane it is. The judge did say take the shackles 1.00

01:09:32.280 off. We're talking about Tamara Leach again, by the way, with her bail hearing. So as soon as I

01:09:36.080 get any sort of news on it, though, I'll certainly pass it on to you. Also, after that, I'm going to

01:09:39.760 talk to Alex McCall on Canada's response to the Ukraine-Russia war. He wrote a column in the

01:09:44.380 Western Standard about that and broke down some of the arms we can send them, things like that.

01:09:49.900 He's our military writer. This is his specialty, and he knows a lot more on those issues than I.

01:09:53.800 So we'll be able to discuss a little bit of what did Canada just send them? We sent some anti-tank

01:09:57.460 things and, uh, I believe some night vision gear and what else could we do or should we do? It'll 0.99

01:10:02.820 be a good chat with that chat with Alex. So in closing, just remember to take out a subscription

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01:10:18.260 them know who sent you there. And that helps me out of course, as well. So either way, I'm going

01:10:24.180 to let you guys go and we'll see if we can't track down Kid Carson and find out what happened

01:10:28.240 there with the miscommunication or something like that. Maybe it's a time zone issue. These things

01:10:31.880 happen on live shows. Thank you all for tuning in today. We got a good show coming tomorrow

01:10:36.380 and I will see you then at 1130.

01:10:54.180 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - March 03, 2022

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