LIVE - Triggered: Vax pass for refugees?
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In this episode of Triggered: A Ranting Show, Corey talks about censorship in Canada and the rest of the world, as well as the recent ban on Russian crude oil exports to Canada, and the departure of radio host Kid Carson.
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Good morning. It's March 2nd, 2022, and welcome to Triggered. Back to all those number twos again.
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I'm Corey Morgan. This show's the Western Standard's live daily interview, news report show,
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ranting show on my part. We run every day at 11.30 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday to Friday,
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except on holidays, unless something's breaking. But you can count on us being here every morning
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at 11.30. Being live, we really enjoy that format. It's good. We can get some comments,
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we can get some interaction, get some back and forth. I don't necessarily pass along every
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comment or question to a guest, but you can throw it out there and I might get it in there. I
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certainly read them all and you can comment back and forth with each other. You can discuss. It's
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fun being live and we get some really good questions and discourse going on. Of course,
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we still always want to keep things polite and civil. It's important. I got a couple of very
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interesting guests on today. Some people might be familiar with Derek Fromm. He's a lawyer. He's
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often been standing up on constitutional issues, things such as that. And Melanie's interviewed
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him a number of times. I've known him for a while. And he's going to talk about an Ontario court
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ruling on family choice and vaccination. The judge just ripped into, and Melanie did an interview on
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that as well recently, just ripped into the people in general and talking about how the courts should
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stay out of family choice and out of politics in general. So it's going to be good to talk about.
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And for the other part with Derek, I want to talk about, he has a heavy metal band. He's had it for
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quite some time now. And it's called sympathy. And they got kicked off of YouTube because they
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put a video out that talked about some things or depicted some things such as the protests
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with the truckers convoy and with even comparing it with Tiananmen Square and things. So somehow
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YouTube said, no, that's it. We're going to yank your video. And they pulled it off there. So
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the censorship lands all over the place, even down to heavy metal. So it'll be a fun and
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interesting conversation there. Then I got speaking of censorship, Kid Carson. People in
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Vancouver area, Lower Mainland would be probably familiar with him. He's a very well-known radio
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DJ down there. He'd been there for quite some time. And he, though, kept speaking his mind on
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vaccination, on the protests and things like that. And it wasn't so much a full firing, but from
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the sounds of it with his podcast, him and the radio station basically came to a mutual agreement
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that he's no longer going to be with them. And he's moved out on his own and he's got a podcast,
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but it gets back to again, legacy media, not wanting to have broad opinion, expecting group
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speak, you know, group think. And that's certainly not what we offer around here, you know, and that's
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part of why radio and talk radio has gotten so terrible and God awful boring lately. You know,
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it's, it's, everybody's afraid of getting canceled. We don't have that fear here.
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And yeah, let's talk about, you know, Canadians and the rest of the world.
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We've been horrified by the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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I mean, a peaceful country has had a foreign nation come in and try and occupy it.
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Most nations don't have the military ability or the will to directly intervene in the conflict.
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The military entrance of a third party into the conflict would probably lead to a third world war.
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Nations have been responding to the war by providing financial and material aid to Ukraine
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while taking actions to put financial pressure on Russia, and Canada hasn't been an exception.
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We lent money to Ukraine while sending arms to them for defense,
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and Russian planes have been banned from Canadian airspace, Russian TV cut from the Canadian airwaves.
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A number of economic sanctions against Russia have been imposed by Canada.
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It was only recently and reticently, though, that Prime Minister Trudeau announced a ban of Russian crude oil imports.
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Most Canadians didn't even know that Canada imported Russian petrochemical products in the first place.
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Canada is among one of the top oil and gas producers on Earth.
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Why would we be shipping oil from such a distant source as Russia into our country?
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So in reality, the amount of oil coming from Russia isn't much.
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Canada apparently hasn't brought in any crude products from Russia in a couple of years.
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And they bring in some refined products from Russia that amount to actually about a million dollars a day.
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The gesture of the oil ban is a good one, all the same, even if it doesn't really mean much.
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But if the Russian oil ban doesn't really impact Canadians much, why did Trudeau drag his feet so much in doing it?
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The Trudeau government doesn't want Canadians realizing how dependent the country is on importing petrochemical products from foreign sources.
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Maybe if enough Canadians realize when they fill their car up for their morning commute,
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they're supporting nations with appalling human rights records, such as Saudi Arabia, Algeria,
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Nigeria, Angola, and Venezuela. If you look it up, those are some of the top ones that ship oil to
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Canada. And Canadians might start asking some questions that make the government uncomfortable
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if they start realizing that. I think a lot of people are in blissful ignorance on this. They
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just don't want to know where it comes from. Just keep the price down and let me get to work.
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So the Canadian government's been working under an ideological delusion for years now that we can
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transition into a green world of renewable energy
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successful in shutting off Canadian supplies of oil
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mythical source of green energy yet, however, so
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foreign imports of oil from dictatorships keep rising.
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that would have fed Western Canadian energy products
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have helped Canada export oil to countries that are
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The Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion could have increased those exports as well, but Trudeau
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regulated it to near death and then bought it with tax dollars, and it remains languishing half-built
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right now while the costs go through the roof. I really am starting to doubt it will ever be done.
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We could be exporting LNG, which is liquid natural gas, to other nations. Canada has some of the
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largest natural gas deposits on earth, but while many LNG export terminals have been proposed,
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the Trudeau government has killed all but one of them through regulations, and that one is delayed
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over budget, and the pipeline being built to service it has been dogged by protests and acts
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of eco-terrorism that the federal government has been loath to address. President Biden killed the
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Keystone XL pipeline despite billions of Canadian dollars being invested into it, and Trudeau just
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shrugged when that happened. Biden's now in the hopeless position of trying to defend Russian oil
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imports into the United States. He could have said there was a bunch coming from Canada, but those
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idiots shut it down. Trudeau could be making a strong case right now for the revitalization of
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the project, but he's still silent. In a war where economic sanctions are one of the strongest
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weapons, an energy superpower can be well-placed to influence the world for the better. But Canada
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has blunted that ability as it consistently shuts down its own domestic energy production ability
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while becoming increasingly dependent on foreign supplies. When Alberta Premier Jason Kennedy
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pointed out how Western Canada is poised to fill these energy voids, he was dismissed by Eastern
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politicians and legacy media members as being a cold opportunist who wants to take advantage of
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the war in Ukraine. The Laurentian elite in Canada wants to shut down all discussion of
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developing Western Canadian resources, no matter how much it makes sense to do so.
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They're driven by ideology rather than reality. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has had the side
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effect of exposing how ridiculously dependent the world has become upon Russian sources of energy.
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Europe is in a full-out energy crisis as they realize shutting down their own forms of energy
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generation in favor of Russian sources has left them vulnerable. Canada could have eased that
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dependency had we only been allowed to develop our own energy infrastructure. We have to force
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the federal government into addressing domestic energy supplies, no matter how squeamish it seems
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to make them. There's no better time than right now to work to end the absurd and costly domestic
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energy embargo that we've put upon ourselves. We don't need to be buying energy products from
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dictatorships, nor do we need to be paying record prices to fill up our own cars. We have it all
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right here. We just need the federal government to get out of the damn way so we can develop it.
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that's what's got me triggered today so let's get to our news editor Dave Naylor and see what's got
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him triggered today hey Corey good to see you Dave hey Corey you know what's got me triggered
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is that we don't have the downtown to ourselves anymore I mean through the fog of this morning
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there's nothing but traffic and nowhere to park that's got me triggered yeah I mean it's a good
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a bad thing we got spoiled with all that uh desolate downtown but it is nice seeing people
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coming back to work and get a little closer to normal again it is i think those of us who kept
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coming downtown should get preferred parking spots so absolutely we held the fort exactly we did uh
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what's making news this morning for us well you remember the uh the fiasco of the phoenix pay
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system well you know it's you know it's going roughly when the uh feds are having to bring in
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consultants to fix the work of their first consultants. So we have a story on that. NDP
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says the Fed spend $12 billion a year on consultants. So if I'd have known that, I may have taken a
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different line of work. I may have been retired by now. A couple of stories involving Ottawa
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Carleton MP Pierre Polyev, currently the only announced candidate for the conservative leadership
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campaign. He's got his gun sights set on Trudeau this morning, blaming the Prime Minister for the
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Bank of Canada interest rate hike that was announced this morning. That's going to affect
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a lot of Canadians, making things more expensive. He's also talking about energy,
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your favorite topic, and urging Trudeau to get out of the way and let a couple of East Coast
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energy developments get built so that they can start shipping products to Europe and other
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places. Under the category of the bleeding obvious, we have a study out on the federal
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civil service, and the majority of them say that nepotism and cronyism is rife in the civil service,
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so that doesn't come as shocking news to anybody. My favorite story of the day is the Liberals.
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they're giving free snowmobiles away to people in the arctic uh it's an effort to uh to help the
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inuit with uh hunting and picking berries so they're spending millions of dollars a year uh
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sending uh sending snow machines up uh to the arctic so i'm sure they're having fun riding
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around uh on them and our real estate guy mike thomas checks in uh i've mentioned the interest
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rate hike of this morning yesterday was the busiest day in 18 years for calgary realtors
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they are saying people specifically trying to buy condominiums before the interest rate hike
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took effect so it looks like the real estate market in calgary will be booming or at least
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was booming for one day yesterday cory uh coming up uh we sent our intrepid mel risden to the mall
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last night to take a look and just see how many people are wearing masks and how many aren't.
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So she's going to be filing a first person column on that shortly and lots of other good stuff,
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I'm sure. Great. Well, always lots to keep everybody busy and it's all back on the site,
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westernstandardonline.com. So thanks for checking in. I hope you, well, you are going to sneak out
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early. I think it's just because you want to try and find a better parking space, but you're saying
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it's automotive work. Yeah, I got to take my car to the car doctor. So if I'm going to having to
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be fight for a fight for a parking space, I need it to be ramming tough. Okay. All right. Thanks,
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Dave. We'll talk to you later. Thanks. Great. So yes, just that reminder to everybody, you know,
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come up. People talk about the status of Tamara Leach. We're watching that closely. If we hear
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news on what's going on, we'll let you know. She has a bail hearing today. For those not familiar,
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she's the political prisoner who's been sitting bail for without bail for two weeks now in jail
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because she was one of the organizers of the truckers convoy protest i mean it
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it's absurd they brought her in in shackles into the courtroom today uh the judge actually said
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take those shackles off her and uh they've gone on with the hearings i guess they've adjourned
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for lunch this is a long time for what should be just a bail hearing we let murderers out on bail
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guys she's charged with mischief mischief so yeah that's why i'm calling her a political prisoner
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not just a regular run-of-the-mill case here. Was it Carol Bergman Sundberg asking about Bill
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S-233? Yeah, that's a Senate bill. It stinks, but you know, Senate bills really tend not to go
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anywhere. They're more like when you look at City Hall or others, they like to make a motion,
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make noise, but they don't actually do anything with it. So I don't like the bill, but I'm not
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too worried about it. I don't believe it's going to lead to further troubles. We've got a lot of
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things that are going to lead to further troubles for us in the future here, but that is not one of
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them, thankfully. Getting back to mainstream media, you know, that's going to be a lot of
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the theme today, cancel culture and censorship. And some of it too is just in the coverage and
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balance. You know, Melanie's going to be talking about what she saw when she went out last night
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because Alberta's now into day two without masks, without regulations. And we still got a lot of
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regulations, but the vast majority of them are gone. And with what she saw out there, well,
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CTV, I mean, again, I like to talk about it because I torture myself at night while I eat
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supper. It's just a weight loss thing, right? I could lose my appetite watching mainstream media.
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And they did their streeters, you know, so they went out and they interviewed people on the streets
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on day one without masks and asked them how they felt about it. And lo and behold, everybody they
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talked to was, well, I'm going to keep my mask on. I think it's a good idea. I don't think it's time
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for people to unmask yet. Yeah, no, I'm afraid. I'm really afraid. You know, this is a way that
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the media manipulates the messaging. And I'll admit, I went out, I did some shopping for groceries
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last night. I'd say the vast majority in that store were masked. People were masked. But you
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know what? If it's their choice, I don't care. Go for it. Wear a mask. It doesn't bother me any.
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But a lot of them weren't. If you're going to do an honest streeter and get out and have a look
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around, why did they not even find one person? And don't try and tell me there isn't one that
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they could find and say, oh, it's so nice getting out without a mask. It's been able to smile at
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people. I've been able to look around and not breathe my own wretched breath. Though, I mean,
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that's an argument for dental hygiene, but that's a separate case. But you know what I mean?
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they didn't even try to get balance. Apparently everybody in the city is quite horrified with
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being unmasked and they're going to remain with masks if you believe the mainstream media.
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So no, we aren't the mainstream. We don't intend to be. Those are the people who've already
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accused us of being too far that way already. I assure you guys, that's not where we land.
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We're just getting bigger. It doesn't mean mainstream. Big difference. So I'm going to
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be getting to our next guest soon. He's in the lobby, but I do want to talk as well. It's not
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real companies. So I'm going to bring on lawyer Derek Fromm, and it's going to be, we're going to
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talk a little bit of legal stuff, but then go beyond some of the usual lawyerly stuff that
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comes out in these interviews as well. So let's bring him into the studio while virtually here.
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Anyways. Hey, Derek, how's it going? Not too bad. How are you doing?
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Oh, good. Good. I mean, I'm day two without a mask, right? Or at least, well, I didn't wear
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a lot anyways, but I don't have to anymore. Yeah, that's nice. Not having to worry about
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when you walk in someplace who's judging you and, well, they can judge me. I wouldn't have
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cared anyway. Well, that's it. And people can potentially, you know, of those few viewers
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I've got, recognize me and judge me when I go out in public anyways. And it's usually negative,
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but now I can at least say, you know, they can address me face to face and tell me to get
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stuffed or whatever. I enjoy those interactions. So, I mean, we'll start just quickly with the
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legal part before we get onto the musical half of our episode here. We had an email you were
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talking with. I mean, just Melanie interviewed somebody on that recently too, but let's reiterate
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a really striking court ruling from the Ontario Superior Court on a case. It was what one of the
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parents wanted to get the child vaccinated. One of the parents didn't. And it wasn't just that
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judge ruled in favor of the parent who wanted to choose not to vaccinate but the writing and the
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ruling was really something that judge kind of went above and beyond to speak about the whole
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tone of things you can expand a bit on that yeah that it's actually really exciting to
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find a case like that normally i think judges um they just kind of cut to the get to the point
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and don't spend a lot of time worrying about how well written the decision is in terms of
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prose they just try to convey what their reasoning is but here we we have an example of a judge who
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uh i would say feels deeply enough about this topic and has thought about it enough that he
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actually put some effort into uh how he expressed his reasoning and it it's quite a striking
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introduction so the introduction to this decision if if your viewers have read court decisions
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before usually it's like a laundry list of who did what to whom and when they did it but this
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is let me let me just read this this is how this goes it's great when did it become illegal to ask
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questions especially in a courtroom when did it become unfashionable for judges to receive answers
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especially when children's lives are at stake how did we lower our guards and let the words
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unacceptable beliefs get paired together fascinating i think that's a quote from
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someone we know and is misinformation even a real word or has it become a crass self-serving tool
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preemptive that preempts scrutiny to discredit your opponent so is it is it a trump card just
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to cast dispersions well it's very fascinating because the judge goes through this and what
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had happened in this case is the two parents were otherwise good parents but were were they were
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either separated or divorced and they were having a dispute whether or not their 10 year old and
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their 12 year old children should be vaccinated the 14 year old had made the decision uh on i
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can't remember if it was a a daughter or a son but the 14 year old made a decision independent of the
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parents and chose to be vaccinated uh which the dad was in favor of the mum said okay i'm not
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in favor of the vaccination but you're 14 you make your own decision now with the 12 and 10
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year old who were living with the mother she had custody of the two of them she wanted them to be
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able to make their own decision as well but the father father said no they should be vaccinated
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this is a very serious disease we can't have them being spreading the disease around etc etc
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well what the court did is the court actually applied the law as it is the court did its duty
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though this is not new law this is not changing anything this is just re-establishing what we've
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all should have known was the case uh throughout the pandemic and that is this when a court is
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looking at doing something as extraordinary as demanding a child who has charter rights
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inject something into their body maybe we should ask the kids what they want
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novel because the law is that what has to be what what is done has to be done in the best
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interests of the child and certainly a portion of what it means to be done in the best interest of
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the child is to actually reference what the child wants and so the court did that there was a
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psychologist that had been working with the children for a number of years because the
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the family breakdown and the psychologist clearly said look the parents aren't having undue influence
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over the children's decisions here they're both otherwise good parents they just became that it
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was just an unlivable situation for them so there wasn't any poisoning going on the children were
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mature enough to understand the decision that they were making and you know if you look at it children
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really aren't at risk of covid so there's that there's the fact that uh when you vaccinate you
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can still spread the disease so the judge was both assured that they weren't the judge wasn't sending
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these children away to die the judge also was assured that look I'm not sending these children
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out the community to kill other people as well because the vaccination would make little difference
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on that front and on top of it the children already had COVID and had recovered and they had
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demonstrated their natural immunity so there was the judge was like you know I can't see a reason
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to vaccinate and the mother had brought this evidence that she found online but she brought
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evidence from like uh dr malone from the cdc from even from pfizer the trial data which showed you
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know there are complications in some cases with the vaccine she brought that to court but the
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father's evidence was basically amounted to well you know that's conspiracy theorist she's wearing
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a tinfoil hat there's pictures of her hanging around with maxine bernier at political events
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and uh the judge read the father of the riot act not because he's a bad person
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but because he didn't present evidence he thought it was enough to say your theories have been
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debunked that's discredited well the government says that it's safe and effective and the the
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court said you know that's not evidence that's argument and if you can turn to page or the
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paragraph 67 it's brilliant that you have it there paragraph 67 is a wonderful paragraph
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you know in times of uncertainty like what we have right now where we're looking at the
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pfizer trial data and the warning labels on on the vaccines and there are risks this is
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not a risk-free procedure yet the government is saying safe and effective is that evidence
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well no it's not because has the government ever been wrong before yeah we were just talking about
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their payroll system with the phoenix uh what is it 25 years they've been working on that they
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can't get their paychecks right that's right it's been a long time trust them with medical opinions
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so yeah in paragraph 67 look at this it's sterilization it's uh there we go in c what
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about internment camps what about thalidomide the government gets things wrong of course it's safe
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and effective according to the government but they're not always right you have to bring evidence
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that's just saying debunked, yelling conspiracy theory, and saying the other side is anti-science,
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that's not enough in court any longer. Yeah, well, it was good that he spoke up on,
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you know, how that was trying, where the attempt was made to make a political association a factor
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in this. And that's a dangerous road to go down. And for him to slap it down so thoroughly in that,
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again, it's not saying he likes or dislikes the people, he's just saying it's irrelevant. We
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don't bring that in here. That's not where we want to go. The deeper issue is that this gentleman
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felt that he was making a case by doing that. And it shows the atmosphere going around Canada right
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now, which is distressing, but all the same, it's something. So for people who want to get the whole
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thing and maybe email me, I can send you a link to where the ruling is. It's hard to, it's a long
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I think it's what, from Canly Online, I believe.
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And send an email to me at cmorganatwesternstandardonline.com.
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And I'll send you a link so you can read the whole ruling
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because usually court rulings are pretty boring and dry to read.
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That's why we pay guys like Derek to deal with it.
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But in this case, it's actually quite an engaging read.
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who take that job very seriously on adjudicating
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and you know, ruling and trying to keep fact in the courtroom. That's right. Yeah. So I'll bounce
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on to another area now where we're talking about censorship and oddness. So a lot of people might
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not know this, but you've been part of the heavy metal band for quite some time now.
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Yeah. And yeah, I just wanted to, I got a picture to Nico to show my credentials to speak to this
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sort of thing. I cut my teeth on Judas Priest and Iron Maiden and Crocus and some of those,
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you know, Saxon, some of those earlier heavy metal bands in the more distant past. But I had
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the hair, I had the single earring, and of course, all the black t-shirts to support my case at that.
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I am coming from a position of authority on this subject. Yes, yes. But you were talking also,
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so your band, though, recently put out a video on YouTube and a number of things, as bands will do,
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and it was pretty contemporary. You were, you know, you had the footage of the protests and
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so I'm kind of tired of doing the vocals myself,
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a Jewish guitarist from Montreal named Ari Eichmann.
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And Ari wrote this song for a band named Quobadis about 20 years ago.
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And I've been told since that time has transpired that what the song is actually about is about the Jewish ghettos in Poland in World War II.
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And it struck me after Jason Kenney's cohorts arrested a few pastors in the province last year that this was an appropriate song and somewhat relevant to Alberta.
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so we decided let's record this song this will be like the test run of our new vocalist nick
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and um and so finally uh when it came time to put the the video together the lyric video just to
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tell our 10 fans uh about nick's joining the band um we decide hey let's use some of the
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trucker protest video footage and uh so we sent our our um our video guy a couple of well actually
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we sent them all youtube footage so it's footage from news services uh and it's all drawn from
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youtube so there's Tiananmen Square as you say and then it kind of morphs into like more contemporary
00:29:31.840
with the truckers waving Canadian flags driving backs past crowds of people at perimeter highway
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in Winnipeg and having a good time in front of the parliament buildings in Ottawa so it's very
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fascinating so we recorded this song i i uploaded it the video to youtube and uh the vocalist uh
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when he went to share it he noticed well actually there's there's three comments on the video but
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they disappeared and comments have been disabled so logged into the account and like oh the video
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has now been rated as plus 18. no idea why i mean it's death metal but people under the age of 18
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listen to our style of music and uh certainly no reason there's no swearing there's no uh
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graphic violence in the lyrics uh any violence in the protesters uh of protests of it's all footage
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drawn directly from youtube often we actually intentionally left the the news source logo in
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the corner and so you can see oh this is from global news oh this is from rebel this is from
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you know whatever news source it is and um and so what ended up happening is uh over the next few
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days youtube then not only to disable the comments gave it an 18 plus rating but then now have
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subsequently deleted the video just removed it from the website because it promotes violence
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against children and families which is absolutely hey there's my picture absolutely ludicrous like
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it's just it's not even possible that it's that it's that way but um you know uh my vocalist
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nick he was right from the beginning he said you know it's gonna get censored because it's gonna
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get cast it's gonna be assumed to be anti-vax just like the truckers and nothing nothing could be
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further from the truth i mean we're not taking an anti-vax position like the truckers we're taking
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an anti-mandate position which is individualism individual autonomy and that's really what we're
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after in the video and so we're thinking now of uh taking a step back getting the video remade
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with 100 trucker footage and show them like sitting in hot tubs kids on bouncy castles
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maybe even kneeling and praying like all this stuff happy people doing happy stuff yeah we'll
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we'll see what how they how they decide it's against uh youtube standards now and you see
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there you go there's a there's a logo in the corner um rt and it's this was all footage drawn
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from youtube so it's it's um it's censored when it's paired with a message that says
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individualism good and individual autonomy good and persecution of the individual bad
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when it's when that footage is paired with that lyric message youtube doesn't like it it's violence
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against children somehow yeah and it's just getting absurd you know and as claude was saying
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put it on rumble actually it already is uh that's where this is from same sort of thing you want to
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email me i can send you a link to that as well um as you said that's deaf metal it's more of a
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different kind of vocals than than i listen to with my old metal but it's still a lot of people's
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enjoyment certainly uh and again i mean you you handing it off i mean if rob halford can still
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hit those notes today i don't see why you can't still do it yeah yeah then we'll leave people to
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decide what notes can be hit when they listen to the song yeah and you talked about some of the
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the other stuff with um i mean the the origins of heavy metal the roots of it i mean it's an
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anti-establishment sort of music it's pushing back against authority uh that's why there was
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such a strong development of it in in east germany or even in in uh the eastern europe i mean back
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in the in the 80s that's where a lot of great stuff came out of because that was their their
00:33:29.120
means of expression and uh you know like any expression it should be protected that's right
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and and and i i agree with that wholeheartedly uh heavy metal is just an example of avant-garde art
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let's say and i i will defend that term art in this context um but it's it's that sort of fringes
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fringe boundary where it's it's outside the norm that's where actual commentary still happens you
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don't get social commentary by pricking up a christina aguilera whoever cd or you know sad
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to say some of the the canadian mainstays uh like the tragically hip you're not going to get stunning
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commentary on society from from bands like that but when you get out into the fringes into uh you
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know more esoteric and that goes for visual arts painting uh for for novels everything it's when
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you get out to that that's that's when you get actual commentary and so heavy metal has always
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been uh an individual opposed to society that's why you see such anti-establishment in imagery
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involved in the genre so often like you see anti-religious anti-state and the same thing
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for punk and for hard rock and this is this is not only um incidental to the genre it's absolutely
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necessary it's it forms part of the message you can't you can't write a hardcore punk song that
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goes raw raw everything's okay the state is wonderful it'll take care of me that that the
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message would not fit the medium. I was just gonna say, it's not a left-right thing. I mean,
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if you look at Rage Against the Machine, for example, I mean, they're very left-leaning,
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but they're raging against the establishment. I mean, almost as it's in their name or
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Pantera, you know, vulgar display of power. They're pushing back and it's not necessarily
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even a simple political ideology. It's people, young people often express just a means to
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say they're not content with the status quo and it's been important.
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yeah and that and that's very important like in my band sympathy we don't all agree on these issues
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but the one thing we do agree on is that we're not status quo people and uh we we are somewhat
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to a degree outsiders and uh we view ourselves that way in in opposition i guess you could say
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or in contrast with what the status quo is and uh so i mean in like just to put this to bed i mean
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there's there's people in my band that i think all of us have received vaccines i don't know that i
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would never even dream of asking about that so it's ludicrous to say that we're anti-vax
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yeah well and also it's ludicrous to say we're promoting violence against children
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yeah well and the the uh again it's it's the the quelling of discourse it's it's trying to get
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group think going on uh what is it belinda bringing up megadeth yeah that's one of the
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of the ones from my youth too peace sells uh but again they were talking about issues and things
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such as that uh but in in a way that people enjoy through music and it's an art form as you said just
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like other uh visual arts or written art i mean again look back to uh neil young when he sang
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about kent state you know the establishment didn't want to hear about that they didn't want your
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average listener to you know realize that university protesters got gunned down and uh i'm sure a lot
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people would have loved to have censored him at that time yeah uh we we just don't want to go
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down this road and it's a forgotten area well just because it's you know death metal i mean we should
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just ignore it well no this is a artistic expression that we really should be protecting
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yeah yeah it is it is a commentary and uh i i think what's and the dovetail back to the
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the court decision um it's that sort of shutting off of debate and not not to say that social
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debate needs to happen in the context of death metal because that would be a very poor way to
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have a debate but um it's indicative of a problem we have in society where our first reflex is to
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cancel and uh i mean that was the father's problem in that court decision is his reflex was not to
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bring evidence but to seek to cancel his wife's opinions and that's exactly what's what's happened
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to me and my band with YouTube is instead of actually being able to judge the content I'm
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assuming it was more than an algorithm at the point where they delete someone probably viewed it
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and their reflex was to cancel and that's that's a sad state because it's sort of impoverished
00:37:58.600
and and I always think back to something that Christopher Hitchens said before he died is that
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he he made an observation that there's this idea in Canada about well it wasn't Canada in particular
00:38:10.260
but multiculturalism that it was such a wonderful thing i wouldn't say that it's not but what it's
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become is very different than actual multiculturalism his his point was that it's a very
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surface thing it's like well i can go buy a curry down the street in london or i can go to a chinese
00:38:28.340
restaurant it people's notion is multiculturalism is different types of food and the clothes you
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wear but if we if we have actual diversity of opinion well that's too much as long as we all
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believe the same thing and think exactly the same thing we can eat different foods and dress
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differently that's great that's canada that's super no multiculturalism has to mean more than
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that it has to also mean diversity of opinion in a diversity of views it has to go below the
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the surface. It has to be much more. We can't be cancelling other people because that means we're
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only more impoverished in our own views when we do that. And it's a sad reflex. It's pathetic.
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It is. Diversity through conformity. As ridiculous as that statement is, that's where they're trying
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to go with it. And it's an absurdity. At least we're in an incredible time that, hey, YouTube
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can shut you down, but you're springing up over on Rumble. And we are getting more and more means
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in something like heavy metal or some of the hard rock
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or punk, they're not going to let themselves get
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I appreciate you guys pushing on and some others
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and just that reminder then, so your band's name is Sympathy
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where else can we find what you're doing legally and stuff like that before i let you go well you
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can also find the band on band camp and uh we have a few releases up there it's uh you can take a
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listen uh you can also uh catch me often in the western standard on twitter also um derek james
00:40:14.220
from i say too much and have too many opinions and share them too freely i just don't care anymore
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and uh i i'm at uh warnock craft anderson in erdry where i'm practicing law right on well
00:40:27.460
good to see you again Derek and yeah it was an interesting discussion so you know it says we can
00:40:32.180
mix politics with music and all sorts of stuff yeah that's right so I'll talk to you again soon
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I'm sure okay bye-bye thanks so yes that was Derek from lawyer death metal former singer extraordinaire
00:40:45.120
guitars the whole works and yeah check out that picture online with that hair he's got those ones
00:40:49.280
in his past too so uh oh that was it was a good talk and again I mean as you're saying it's that
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first instinct. The instincts, I don't like that, shut it down. Well, hang on. You don't like it?
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Don't listen. Let it go. But that's not where we are. We're at this centralized area of thought
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that this person is associated there. That's why we have to shut down their voice. This person
00:41:08.780
addressed that. That's why we have to shut them down. This is not a good development in society.
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This is not moving forward as people. This is not healthy. And it goes all the way down,
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all the way from the top on extremely important court hearings with families, all the way down to
00:41:24.820
again, expression through things like bands or as Derek said, I mean, the art pieces, artists
00:41:30.020
throughout history. I mean, we're talking to medieval times where people who helped inspire
00:41:36.220
change and inspire different thinking. And, you know, you can't shut it down. It's bad for society.
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So I'm going to go to an ad break here before I talk about some more new stuff.
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Let's talk about the Canada Shooting Sports Association. Speaking of freedoms,
00:41:50.460
speaking of things that the government doesn't want us to have. They do not want you to have,
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enjoy, trade, collect firearms. You know, most of us, well, I don't know, a lot of people,
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millions of Canadians safely, responsibly enjoy firearms all the time, whether they're hunting,
00:42:05.380
target, shooting, collecting, it doesn't matter. As long as they're not harming anybody else,
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it's nobody's business what they do with the firearms. Well, the Canada Shooting Sports
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Association, I mean, their name says it all. They're an association for the people who enjoy
00:42:16.400
firearms and to give you the means to enjoy them and resources, everything from trade shows to
00:42:23.320
videos on safe handling of firearms. And I like to think most importantly is they are, I've got
00:42:30.360
court challenges out there. They're standing up on behalf of firearm owners. They're pushing back
00:42:34.820
against the liberal government because the government's trying to take these away and
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you need to join them. That's the, you see, nobody else is going to stand up for you as a firearms
00:42:43.320
owner, you got to stand up for yourself. And these guys need members, get on there, check them out,
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take out a membership so they can keep helping you keep your firearms. It's a Canadian shooting
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sports association. It's easiest just to Google it and find it, but their website also is cssa-cila.org.
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And yeah, you know, support those guys, take out a membership. It's important.
00:43:07.620
All right. So let's talk about, you know, we're going to be on the pipeline this afternoon,
00:43:12.540
by the way, with Derek Fildebrand. And I think we're going to have Melanie because Dave, as he
00:43:17.240
said, had to get his car repaired. We're going to talk about some of the stuff in Ukraine.
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Let's talk about some of the nuanced discussion we've seen online going on already. Kamala Harris,
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the American vice president. This is a quote from her. This is the discourse level at the top levels
00:43:30.780
of government in the United States right now. Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next
00:43:38.440
to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country.
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Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically, that's wrong.
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Sounded like a female Trudeau. I'm surprised this wasn't put into a pop-up book.
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Who are you talking to? I mean, what a condescending shallow... I mean, we're talking
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about a potential world war going on. We got a nuclear power invading a European nation and you
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and you talk like an imbecile. And this is the, you know, as Dave put the other day, you know,
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as people say, one breath away from the presidency. And I mean, Biden, I guess if anybody wants to
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make sure Biden remains healthy and is cognitively capable as possible, there's another reason for it
00:44:27.720
because if for some reason he's not the president, that's what we've got. Look at that. North America
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I'll have Justin Trudeau at the head over here and Kamala Harris down there in the United States.
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What a frightening thought, again, especially in a world going on right now with turmoil.
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Let's see what else we've got going on the news scroll.
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I'm going to be interviewing Sonia Sharp in the future here, and we're going to talk about some of the stuff there.
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She's been a very impressive councillor, actually, most definitely her own person.
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And some people kind of thought everybody with a union endorsement is going to toe the line for the unions and do things like that.
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No, she's been actually very outspoken and nuanced and is most definitely her own person when it comes to policies and things.
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So that's refreshing out of City Hall and councillors.
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And something we've got now kind of ripening up into a battle, and I'm a little torn on it, is Jason Kinney and the UCP are looking to amend the Municipalities Act.
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Maybe they should amend it just to make it shorter so I can pronounce it on the shows properly.
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So that municipal governments can't keep things like mask mandates or vaccine passports and things such as that on the go.
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I don't like when I see the more distant central government coming down on the localized government.
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At the same time, I don't like seeing localized government overriding the health authorities and doing things that are outside of their jurisdiction.
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So this is actually a little more complicated than one would think.
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I mean, most of why SOHI and Gondek didn't want to go off of the mandates and things like that in the past is it's about control.
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And it's about having a pissing match with the premier.
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They just want to make sure they have that ability.
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But at the same time, how often do you want the provincial government to override your local one?
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You know, I hate to say it, but what if we had Premier Notley again?
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Do you want her in charge of development in your area or region?
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Do you want her to override your locally elected officials?
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So we're getting into some difficult waters going on there right now.
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But at the same time, I mean, I think it's ridiculous that Sohi in Edmonton is keeping a mask mandate going on while the rest of the province doesn't have one.
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It's a punitive measure against not just the people there, but the businesses.
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Think about the people who own businesses anywhere around the periphery of Edmonton.
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You've got satellite cities all the way around that city.
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They will leave the area to go dine where they don't have to put a chin diaper on to
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And it's going to hurt their local businesses that have already been hurting enough over
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this whole bloody pandemic from start to end.
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So, I mean, it's a stupid, stupid decision on the part of Edmonton's council and mayor
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but at the same time, how much do we want the provincial government to be the ones to come in
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and crack down on it? It's tough. I mean, and I look at the same thing, you know, when Gondek
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keeps like going on, you know, the government should intervene and pull Sean Chu out of the
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council in Calgary. They should rip them out of there. Okay. Do you really want the premier to
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do that? We don't like this elected official, so we're going to just rip them out of there.
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We don't like that one, so we're just going to pull them out. Are you sure you want that,
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Gondek? Maybe, maybe the premier won't like you. It defeats the purpose of having a local election.
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And I know there's a lot of controversy with Sean Chu, and it should be up to the electors
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to deal with that, not the Alberta government. I'm not saying whether Sean should be there or not.
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Again, that decision, though, should land on the people of Ward 4. And maybe if Kenny actually
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brought in real recall legislation, that decision could be brought to them sooner rather than later.
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But for the time being, I don't think Gondek really, this shows how two-faced she is.
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She's upset if Kennedy's going to bring in that legislation, but at the same time, she
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wants Kennedy to overstep and move in on removing elected officials that she doesn't like.
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I like government to be as close to people as possible.
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But at the same time, I don't want city council to be in charge of health care in general.
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They can barely run their own meetings as it sits.
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You know, there's a few bright lights in there,
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but for the most part, these guys do idiot things.
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I don't want them in charge of our healthcare system.
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Medicine Hat had very, very few when the province was locked down. But I mean,
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in the bigger cities and some other areas, it was getting strong, but Medicine Hat was okay.
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And he was saying, well, why don't you lift the regulations here in Medicine Hat for us then?
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I mean, maybe that could make it a little more understandable. You can address certain areas
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rather than having a central government do the same thing across the entire province. That's a
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better way to govern, you know, reflect regional realities and views and things such as that.
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Uh, let's see what else we got. Yeah. Cabinet yesterday, they faced demands at target Russian
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investors, uh, in Canada, including billionaire owners of a federally subsidized Regina steel
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mill once toured by finance minister, Chrystia Freeland. Uh, let's see what this liberal appointed
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Senator said, punishing Russia for its invasion of Ukraine may involve some sacrifice for us,
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said the liberal appointed Senator. Uh, situation calls for Canada to do everything it can. Uh,
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This is Brett Cotter in Saskatchewan. He raised the need for the imposition of sanctions on
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Russian businesses in Canada, not just freezing their bank accounts. Okay. And so this is where
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things start getting challenging as well and difficult as you can see with the graphic that
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Nico brought up. We do want to push back. We do want to, you know, exert what we can against the
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Russian, you know, invasion going on over there. But at the same time, how much damage do we want
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to do to ourself? And I'm not worried so much even about the owners of this facility. And it
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sounds like it took some subsidies from the tax dollars as it is. So we're stuck owning it already,
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which we shouldn't be doing in the first place. But there are going to be a lot of people put
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out of work if we start shutting down those businesses that are interspersed with foreign
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ownership. So tread carefully, I guess is all I could say to that. Make sure you watch your
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policies. Don't do knee-jerk things. And we're seeing a lot of knee-jerk governance going on
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Canada these days in general. In the question period there, was it Cotter specifically named
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Evraz? It's a publicly traded steel pipe manufacturer. It's got mills and facilities
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in Regina, Calgary, Red Deer, and Camrose. It's very Western. It's the largest steelmaker west
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of the Great Lakes. So how many people, how many Canadians are you willing to put out of work
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though with these sanctions? And maybe we should, I don't know. I'm not saying this is a good idea
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a bad idea at this point. I'm just saying this is where policy isn't as cut and dry as a lot of
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people think. As I kind of said earlier, economic sanctions are really the only power we've got at
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this point as a nation. We don't have the military forces to be able to do much to push Russia and
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we don't want to. Do you really want to send Canadian forces into Ukraine right now? Of course
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not. I mean, not only would that turn that from a conflict between two nations into a military one
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between a number of them. But I don't think we want to see our young Canadians going over there
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and potentially dying for this, even if we're concerned. So we're in a complicated period of
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world policy, whilst we unfortunately have some simplistic leadership. And getting to
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Kamala Harris and Justin Trudeau and then the concerns about them right now,
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I just hope that the smarter minds can prevail. I hope both of them are handing off the diplomatic
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roles to people who are better in that, who are a little better educated and can think a little
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better on their feet than those two. Because if those two baboons are the ones, oh, please don't
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misinterpret what I was saying with that. I meant more of clowns, are the ones making those policies
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over there. We're going to be in for a world war at the rate they go. I mean, let's talk about
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stupid government policy here right now. Wait a minute. Here we go with Gary saying Russia's on
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the right side of history. Okay. We can have this debate with viewers. And I've heard a bit of that
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from people. Guys, they invaded Ukraine. There's no right side there. You can have legitimate beefs
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with Ukraine. You can have sanctions with Ukraine. You can even talk about the little regions on the
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side. But no, no, they are not in the right side of history. They're invading what was a peaceful,
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sovereign nation. It's not the right side of history. This is expansionist. This is what
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leads to world wars. This is the problem. I mean, Hitler was bad enough with his own country
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until he popped on into Poland. And then we started to get a much bigger problem. And of
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course, he kept expanding from there. And they are certainly not on the right side of history.
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And no, no, there's no excuse for Russia going into Ukraine. And people said, oh,
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there was corruption going on in Ukraine. Well, probably. Well, that's pretty common in Eastern
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Europe, unfortunately. I saw a lot of that when I was over there. As well, I mean, they were saying,
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oh, we've got some neo-Nazi movements. Well, again, unfortunately, when you get millions of
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people, yeah, you're going to get a handful of those kind of idiots. You always do. It doesn't
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mean that the neighboring nation can invade and take over the nation to deal with it.
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You know, I'm sure we've got some sort of chapter of neo-Nazi peckerheads somewhere in Canada.
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Does that mean the United States would be justified in saying, we're going to come in and take over Canada to stop that?
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The Russian citizens aren't so terribly thrilled with this whole thing either.
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But I do not see Russia being on the right side of history in this whatsoever.
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ever. You know, NATO wasn't much of anything. What? Why so many of you guys, Ukraine's not
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peaceful? Really? Was Ukraine going to invade Russia? Ukraine committed genocide on the Russians
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living in Ukraine? B.S. That's just B.S. So you see, this is what I'm talking about. We've got
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to get on to real discussions, guys, not this crap that's going around. And, you know, there's
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problems. It's a complicated area. There's definitely things. Educate myself before
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condemning Russia. I have. I've been there. Have you? I've been to Ukraine as well. They're
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complicated. Yeah. Eastern Ukraine, I think there probably is a majority of them would rather be
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Russian. And these are tight-knit nations next to each other. But it doesn't justify invading
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a peaceful country. It doesn't. So make your excuses, guys. Most of the world, and if we're
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talking about history, they're not supporting. You guys are supporting Putin. That's fine. If
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you're into dictators, go to town. I'm not. And I'm sorry, but I am not going to support
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the peaceful invasion. Not peaceful invasion, the violent invasion of a peaceful neighbor.
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So let's move on to some other things. Let's talk about snowmobiles for northerners.
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Speaking of government getting into areas they shouldn't. So the Department of Crown
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indigenous relations uh dave talked about that earlier talked about free snowmobiles being
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purchased under a multi-million dollar program to promote indigenous hunting and berry picking
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uh i spent a a few years up in uh working in the inuvik area in tuktuk when i was in the oil field
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as well you know they got a thing because a lot of people are probably uh oh dallas is disgusted
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with me well go away dallas so uh you could they had what's called the rangers i think they're
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still going up there. I mean, this is getting back to the Cold War days, you know, they would
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give old 303s to the local natives and have them patrol the Arctic. I mean, to a degree, there was,
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you didn't have the sort of modern, you know, satellite imagery radar, things like that. So
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you did need the dew line, you need people on the ground and stuff like that to keep an eye on our
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northern area. I don't think they could have held off a Russian invasion back then, but they could
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be that first warning and then first line of defense, I guess you can, you could say up in
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the north and things like that. They used to give them snowmobiles for that. But I mean, that
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need is gone. So now they've moved on and say, well, now they need it for hunting.
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This is interesting. You know, one of the problems, and I dealt with that when we were
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out on the ice and Tuk-Tuk-Tuk and areas like that. And we actually shared our camp with
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researchers because they didn't have the budget to get out there on the ice and look at things
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in the Arctic. But we had the budget as an oil company out there to do it. So we actually hosted
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them let them come in there. There was one where they were studying seal populations out near
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Tuk-Tayaktuk and there was this drill ship that was frozen into the ice nearby. And essentially
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they'd already come up with a hypothesis saying seal populations are definitely going to be
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lower because the drilling up there is going to scare them away and the Beaufort Sea and it's
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really going to disrupt them. And they brought these dogs up. This shows how bright they were
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too. And we saw the video of it. It was sad actually. They brought up these gold retrievers
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and such that they had trained to sniff out seal holes. And they'd done it through seal scent in
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hockey rinks and things. So they could train the dog to get out and smell where there's been seals
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and such. And they brought them to the Arctic. I think they believe like David Suzuki's lines
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and things like that on how cold it is up there. And it's incredibly cold. You've never felt cold
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till you've been on the Beaufort Sea in February. I tell you, the wind never stops. We're talking
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a thermometer temperature where you're averaging minus 40. I mean, the wind chill when you put it
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on top of that is just obscene. I don't know how the polar bears and the ptarmigan and the
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Arctic foxes really managed to survive up there, but they do. Either way, the first thing that
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happened is a bunch of these dogs had their feet amputated because they froze their feet off when
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these idiots took them out there to try and find the seal holes. It was stupid. Then they went out
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further and they did manage to find and check and tag some seals and everything. And what they
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discovered was right around the drill ship where they figured the seals were all going to be chased
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away and scared off. There were loads of them. In fact, there were more seals than they expected
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because so it blew their hypothesis. We didn't hear much about that study afterwards because
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it didn't come to the conclusion they wanted to hear. The other thing they discovered was there
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was a lot of polar bears around there and they were shocked. Like how do we got so many polar
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bears around here? Well, because polar bears eat seals, they follow the seals. But they said, yes,
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but we got the numbers from around Tuktoyaktuk. And this is where I'm coming around in a long way
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with this story here, but it's some truth to it. There are very few polar bears around Tuktoyaktuk.
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Well, yes. But why is that the case? It's because the locals there had snowmobiles and rifles.
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They've shot all the polar bears. They've hunted the seals. The numbers are down. Anywhere within
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snowmobile range of a center in the Arctic, you're not going to have a lot of games. Same thing with
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the caribou. But you get out like us as the oil field and so on, get farther beyond it,
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then you do see a lot of wildlife in the Arctic, in fact. And a lot of the numbers they reflect,
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see all these studies can afford is to get into populated areas and check the numbers. But it
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gives a skewed number. If you get outside a snowmobile range, you're going to see much larger
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natural wildlife numbers going on out there. Either way, now we're getting to this. We have
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to give free machines to the Inuit and so on so they can hunt and get farther up there, I guess.
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And the interesting thing, too, is they also said to promote berry picking. Look, in berry season,
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snowmobiles aren't terribly handy. So they might want to research a little more on their
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justification for this as well. I don't want to take the snowmobiles away from people living in
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the Arctic. Those are essential tools for getting around and machines and such. And
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at the same time, is it our obligation as taxpayers, though, to keep funding these sorts
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of things? I mean, we're funding a population in the deep north. And I think we've got to be
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justifying why do we want them up there necessarily if it's unsustainable? Do you want to keep it as
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a permanent welfare state? Do we want to constantly fund people just to sit there? I think that's
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some of what people kind of keep in mind. You know, they like to envision this little zoo where
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First Nations people just live in this traditional lifestyle in little areas. And, you know,
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the people who promote this are usually hipsters down south who like the urban modern living.
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They enjoy that. They wouldn't want to live up in that, but they want to make sure to fund and keep
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other people living up in that. Look, guys, if you've gone up there, check it out. These are
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houses, they aren't living in igloos anymore. Of course not. They're living in houses that are up
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on stilts because of the permafrost and they rely on diesel and gas to keep themselves warm and keep
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their power going. Every house has a satellite dish and they have snowmobiles. They're people
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like everyone else. They want comforts and of course they should have them. So, but if you're
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trying to keep this, this, this mental vision that you're keeping a little enclave of traditional
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little Inuit people up in the North, it's not happening. I don't see, I mean, if there's not
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enough trade and hunting, if there's not enough benefit in it for them to pay for their own
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snowmobiles, maybe it's time to stop supplying them. And I'm sorry, but if you can't make it
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up there, maybe it's time to move down south. How long do we want to expand the population? Or if
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they really want to, I can have a much longer discussion on that. Get the McKenzie Valley
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pipeline done. You know, part of what was going to happen with that pipeline, if it ever got
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finished, was it was going to come with a land road following the pipeline right away, all the
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way up through Yellowknife, which right now it stops at Norman Wells, and you've still got about
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a 700 kilometer gap. And you have to, to get to Inuvik and Tuck, you have to drive all the way
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around through Whitehorse and then over the Dempster Highway. It's a beautiful drive, by the
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way, but it's a rugged one and a long one. You can cut a day off of that, go straight up McKenzie
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Valley and get up to Inuvik. And the pipeline was going to provide that as well. And they were
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training people up there. They got colleges up there. They were putting people to work who would
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work in the energy sector up there. But then the government regulated to death. I mean, years and
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years, it started with the Berger Commission in the 70s on that pipeline. Like there's another
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Alberta with the oil and gas up the Mackenzie Delta. It's loads of it up there. I spent years
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on the exploration up there and we can develop it. Speaking of energy security for Canada,
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but the government dragged their feet so long on that pipeline and made them study so much.
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We wasted billions on that thing. It wasn't canceled. It was just like Energy East.
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All the proponents and companies just said, oh, you guys made it so expensive. We're out. We're
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done. We're finished. They didn't spend all those billions thinking it was going to be cancelled.
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They wanted to bring it in and it would be worthwhile. It sure would be a nice pipe to
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have right now, wouldn't it? The price of oil and gas. But, and it was just going to be gas to start,
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but they were going to move on to liquids, but it's shut down. If you want to maintain
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a population in the Arctic, you have to find some industries that are worth developing.
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And oil and gas is a big one of them. And a lot of the people would like to work on it. They'd
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like to make a living like anybody else. What else are you going to do up there besides subsistence
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living. There's very limited tourism up there. There's no logging. If you've been up the taiga
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before you hit the tundra, there's no decent logging for hundreds and hundreds of miles to
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get up there. Fishing is limited. You can get a bit of char and so on, but again, that gets more
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into subsistence and specialty sort of things, hunting tours, a little bit of that, but you can't
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sustain much of a population up there. So rather than sending snowmobiles up there, we should be
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figuring out how to make them independent. And that does apply to a lot of people in isolated
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reserves, even if it's below the Arctic Circle. But again, the Canadian way, now let's just keep
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throwing more stuff out there. Let's see. Oh, here's another. The Senate's been having a lot
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of good discussions lately. So this is another interesting one. Materials used by the renewable
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energy sector are often produced by slave labor. This is the Senate Human Rights Committee. They
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were told this in testimonies. Forced labor, including children used in supply chains that
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produce electric car batteries and wind turbine parts. So yeah, you know, again, speaking of
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greenwashing, you know, speaking of the hipsters who like their gas-fired latte, but still want
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to shut down the means of producing it somewhere else. When you want to go green, you want to bring
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in these electric cars. You need some heavy metals. You need a lot of items, specialized woods for
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wind turbines, things like that. Well, it's making a mess in other places. You're not doing the
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environment a favor and you're not doing human rights a favor. When you've got some countries
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I mean, so this is where it's from the set of testimony.
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It said, look at renewable energy supply chain issues.
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You have situations like the Democratic Republic of Congo
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where 35,000 children used in child labor mining cobalt,
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which is used in lithium ion batteries and electric cars.
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we want to have a standard of human rights going on in there.
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where we have the B.C. and Saskatchewan and the Yukon
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We don't want to develop that because it's bad, it's bad.
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we, you know, labor protections, environmental protections,
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we have all those things, but apparently we're still bad.
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which is things such as that going on in the Congo and stuff.
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We can't just keep ignoring, you know, action, reaction.
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and it's costing all of us getting more into federal issues. I'm afraid it looks like Kid
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Carson isn't going to make it today. He was scheduled for some time back. Maybe he'll pop
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in. I'll talk a little longer. It's too bad. I was really looking forward to speaking with him.
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We'll see if we can reconnect and find out what went wrong in the communications with that.
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But either way, some of this other stuff coming up, a public service commission
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was told about nepotism. This is a real shocker in the federal hiring. 53%
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felt that appointments depend on who you know. Now that applies to the private market in a lot
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of situations as well. But I mean, it is a problem. 47% of employees agreed with the statement
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appointments don't depend on who you know. So it's kind of split. There's questionnaires with
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75,000 federal workers, but you got to remember if half of those federal workers got their jobs
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because of nepotism in the first place, they're not going to want to point out how bad it was.
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So I got a feeling that number might be a good deal higher than that. This is from Patrick
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there's still areas for improvement. Yeah, you think, and the commission's going to work on it.
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Either way, nepotism is supposedly a firing offense in the public service. I doubt anybody's
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really been fired for it yet, though. I mean, the guy who is in charge of firing probably has a
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cousin who's a member of parliament who's got a friend who's a cabinet minister. So it's probably
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not going to happen. As Dave also said, yes, they're hiring consultants to check the work
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of other consultants in the multi-billion dollar Phoenix pay system failure. That thing is
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something else. If you really want to read a tragedy of bureaucracy, read about the Phoenix
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pay system and the federal government. These guys can't even pay themselves right. That's how bad
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they are. And it's funny with some of those statements, our government's really committed
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to providing high quality services to Canadians. We want this to ensure the best value for
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taxpayers. It's fortunate. Really? Really? You can't even get your payroll right in 20 years,
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guys. I find it very difficult to believe that you're that committed to giving us quality
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services for our tax dollars uh residential real estate ban that's kind of dull finance committee
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all right i think it's time to move on just to talk about what we are going to do tomorrow
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i'm assuming my guests are showing up tomorrow we've got uh joseph quennell actually he's from
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the frontier center in public policy and he's been writing uh he writes predominantly on
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indigenous issues and we're going to talk a bit about residential schools i mean it's a
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a hot button area. It's definitely, you know, worthy of some more open discussion. People are
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afraid of that subject. It's a sensitive one, but it's a big one. And talking to Joseph about it at
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length is going to be very good and important. Somebody's saying, how about Tamara? I haven't
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had a chance. I asked the newsroom to let me know if there's any ruling on her bail at this point.
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And I haven't gotten any updates. So I imagine they're still dragging their feet. When we started
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the show, they'd gone to recess. I mean, again, you know, it's a bail hearing. It shouldn't take
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this long, but they really seem determined to keep this person locked up because she committed
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the crime of encouraging mischief. Yes, this is quite. Paul Hinman, when can we get him on? I've
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had Paul on a couple of times. And yeah, I'll probably get him again before the end of the
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by-election up in Fort McMurray and see where things are sitting. Right now, that's still
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ongoing. And yeah, it's sliding under the radar. What are we, two weeks away from election day up
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there in Fort Mac in that by-election and it's put Paul's campaigning his butt off. He's been
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there for a couple of months on it. And I think there's like eight other candidates in it, but
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realistically, I think it's the only ones to watch are going to be the UCP, of course, the NDP and
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Paul Hinman. The rest are typically just the usual also-rans, but we'll see. We'll see. I don't
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dismiss everybody. I've been in also-ran in elections myself. Carmen, yeah, they brought
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her in with shackles. You know, that was how insane it is. The judge did say take the shackles
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off. We're talking about Tamara Leach again, by the way, with her bail hearing. So as soon as I
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get any sort of news on it, though, I'll certainly pass it on to you. Also, after that, I'm going to
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talk to Alex McCall on Canada's response to the Ukraine-Russia war. He wrote a column in the
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Western Standard about that and broke down some of the arms we can send them, things like that.
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He's our military writer. This is his specialty, and he knows a lot more on those issues than I.
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So we'll be able to discuss a little bit of what did Canada just send them? We sent some anti-tank
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things and, uh, I believe some night vision gear and what else could we do or should we do? It'll
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be a good chat with that chat with Alex. So in closing, just remember to take out a subscription
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them know who sent you there. And that helps me out of course, as well. So either way, I'm going
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to let you guys go and we'll see if we can't track down Kid Carson and find out what happened
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there with the miscommunication or something like that. Maybe it's a time zone issue. These things
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happen on live shows. Thank you all for tuning in today. We got a good show coming tomorrow