Western Standard - March 03, 2022


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In this episode of Triggered: A Ranting Show, Corey talks about censorship in Canada and the rest of the world, as well as the recent ban on Russian crude oil exports to Canada, and the departure of radio host Kid Carson.

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00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's March 2nd, 2022, and welcome to Triggered. Back to all those number twos again.
00:00:37.040 I'm Corey Morgan. This show's the Western Standard's live daily interview, news report show,
00:00:43.120 ranting show on my part. We run every day at 11.30 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday to Friday,
00:00:48.700 except on holidays, unless something's breaking. But you can count on us being here every morning
00:00:52.680 at 11.30. Being live, we really enjoy that format. It's good. We can get some comments,
00:00:57.400 we can get some interaction, get some back and forth. I don't necessarily pass along every
00:01:01.160 comment or question to a guest, but you can throw it out there and I might get it in there. I
00:01:04.420 certainly read them all and you can comment back and forth with each other. You can discuss. It's
00:01:09.020 fun being live and we get some really good questions and discourse going on. Of course,
00:01:13.300 we still always want to keep things polite and civil. It's important. I got a couple of very
00:01:18.920 interesting guests on today. Some people might be familiar with Derek Fromm. He's a lawyer. He's
00:01:23.200 often been standing up on constitutional issues, things such as that. And Melanie's interviewed
00:01:28.580 him a number of times. I've known him for a while. And he's going to talk about an Ontario court
00:01:32.560 ruling on family choice and vaccination. The judge just ripped into, and Melanie did an interview on
00:01:38.340 that as well recently, just ripped into the people in general and talking about how the courts should
00:01:43.320 stay out of family choice and out of politics in general. So it's going to be good to talk about.
00:01:47.800 And for the other part with Derek, I want to talk about, he has a heavy metal band. He's had it for
00:01:51.940 quite some time now. And it's called sympathy. And they got kicked off of YouTube because they
00:01:57.440 put a video out that talked about some things or depicted some things such as the protests
00:02:02.160 with the truckers convoy and with even comparing it with Tiananmen Square and things. So somehow
00:02:08.100 YouTube said, no, that's it. We're going to yank your video. And they pulled it off there. So
00:02:11.300 the censorship lands all over the place, even down to heavy metal. So it'll be a fun and
00:02:15.580 interesting conversation there. Then I got speaking of censorship, Kid Carson. People in
00:02:20.180 Vancouver area, Lower Mainland would be probably familiar with him. He's a very well-known radio
00:02:26.880 DJ down there. He'd been there for quite some time. And he, though, kept speaking his mind on
00:02:33.880 vaccination, on the protests and things like that. And it wasn't so much a full firing, but from
00:02:39.760 the sounds of it with his podcast, him and the radio station basically came to a mutual agreement
00:02:46.180 that he's no longer going to be with them. And he's moved out on his own and he's got a podcast,
00:02:50.480 but it gets back to again, legacy media, not wanting to have broad opinion, expecting group
00:02:57.940 speak, you know, group think. And that's certainly not what we offer around here, you know, and that's
00:03:03.320 part of why radio and talk radio has gotten so terrible and God awful boring lately. You know,
00:03:07.500 it's, it's, everybody's afraid of getting canceled. We don't have that fear here.
00:03:11.980 We don't at all.
00:03:13.660 So I'm going to talk actually quickly.
00:03:17.200 Where am I going here to?
00:03:18.480 What's got me going today?
00:03:21.080 And yeah, let's talk about, you know, Canadians and the rest of the world.
00:03:24.060 We've been horrified by the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
00:03:27.240 I mean, a peaceful country has had a foreign nation come in and try and occupy it.
00:03:33.400 Most nations don't have the military ability or the will to directly intervene in the conflict.
00:03:38.620 The military entrance of a third party into the conflict would probably lead to a third world war.
00:03:43.440 Nations have been responding to the war by providing financial and material aid to Ukraine
00:03:47.540 while taking actions to put financial pressure on Russia, and Canada hasn't been an exception.
00:03:52.780 We lent money to Ukraine while sending arms to them for defense,
00:03:55.360 and Russian planes have been banned from Canadian airspace, Russian TV cut from the Canadian airwaves.
00:03:59.780 Chinese TV was kept, by the way, though.
00:04:02.160 A number of economic sanctions against Russia have been imposed by Canada.
00:04:05.920 It was only recently and reticently, though, that Prime Minister Trudeau announced a ban of Russian crude oil imports.
00:04:11.420 Most Canadians didn't even know that Canada imported Russian petrochemical products in the first place.
00:04:16.580 Canada is among one of the top oil and gas producers on Earth.
00:04:18.740 Why would we be shipping oil from such a distant source as Russia into our country?
00:04:24.380 So in reality, the amount of oil coming from Russia isn't much.
00:04:26.740 Canada apparently hasn't brought in any crude products from Russia in a couple of years.
00:04:30.560 And they bring in some refined products from Russia that amount to actually about a million dollars a day.
00:04:34.940 The gesture of the oil ban is a good one, all the same, even if it doesn't really mean much.
00:04:39.580 It's not going to bring Russia to its knees.
00:04:41.360 But if the Russian oil ban doesn't really impact Canadians much, why did Trudeau drag his feet so much in doing it?
00:04:46.700 Well, the answer is pretty simple.
00:04:47.740 The Trudeau government doesn't want Canadians realizing how dependent the country is on importing petrochemical products from foreign sources.
00:04:55.260 Maybe if enough Canadians realize when they fill their car up for their morning commute, 0.81
00:04:58.840 they're supporting nations with appalling human rights records, such as Saudi Arabia, Algeria,
00:05:03.320 Nigeria, Angola, and Venezuela. If you look it up, those are some of the top ones that ship oil to
00:05:08.660 Canada. And Canadians might start asking some questions that make the government uncomfortable
00:05:12.620 if they start realizing that. I think a lot of people are in blissful ignorance on this. They
00:05:16.240 just don't want to know where it comes from. Just keep the price down and let me get to work.
00:05:20.340 So the Canadian government's been working under an ideological delusion for years now that we can
00:05:24.620 transition into a green world of renewable energy
00:05:27.040 if only we could shut off enough of our own
00:05:28.920 domestic supplies. The government's been very
00:05:30.720 successful in shutting off Canadian supplies of oil
00:05:32.860 and gas. They've not managed to find that
00:05:34.800 mythical source of green energy yet, however, so
00:05:36.740 foreign imports of oil from dictatorships keep rising.
00:05:39.640 The proposed Energy East pipeline
00:05:40.940 that would have fed Western Canadian energy products
00:05:42.900 to Eastern Canada. We had
00:05:44.900 that, but Trudeau regulated it to death.
00:05:46.980 The Northern Gateway Pipeline would
00:05:48.860 have helped Canada export oil to countries that are
00:05:50.860 dependent on Russian oil right now.
00:05:53.000 But Trudeau killed that one.
00:05:54.620 The Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion could have increased those exports as well, but Trudeau
00:05:59.620 regulated it to near death and then bought it with tax dollars, and it remains languishing half-built
00:06:04.120 right now while the costs go through the roof. I really am starting to doubt it will ever be done.
00:06:08.120 We could be exporting LNG, which is liquid natural gas, to other nations. Canada has some of the
00:06:12.680 largest natural gas deposits on earth, but while many LNG export terminals have been proposed,
00:06:18.160 the Trudeau government has killed all but one of them through regulations, and that one is delayed
00:06:22.020 over budget, and the pipeline being built to service it has been dogged by protests and acts
00:06:27.280 of eco-terrorism that the federal government has been loath to address. President Biden killed the
00:06:32.380 Keystone XL pipeline despite billions of Canadian dollars being invested into it, and Trudeau just
00:06:36.320 shrugged when that happened. Biden's now in the hopeless position of trying to defend Russian oil
00:06:41.040 imports into the United States. He could have said there was a bunch coming from Canada, but those
00:06:44.900 idiots shut it down. Trudeau could be making a strong case right now for the revitalization of 1.00
00:06:49.160 the project, but he's still silent. In a war where economic sanctions are one of the strongest
00:06:54.540 weapons, an energy superpower can be well-placed to influence the world for the better. But Canada
00:07:00.160 has blunted that ability as it consistently shuts down its own domestic energy production ability
00:07:05.060 while becoming increasingly dependent on foreign supplies. When Alberta Premier Jason Kennedy
00:07:09.460 pointed out how Western Canada is poised to fill these energy voids, he was dismissed by Eastern
00:07:13.320 politicians and legacy media members as being a cold opportunist who wants to take advantage of
00:07:17.520 the war in Ukraine. The Laurentian elite in Canada wants to shut down all discussion of
00:07:23.100 developing Western Canadian resources, no matter how much it makes sense to do so.
00:07:27.380 They're driven by ideology rather than reality. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has had the side
00:07:32.500 effect of exposing how ridiculously dependent the world has become upon Russian sources of energy.
00:07:38.020 Europe is in a full-out energy crisis as they realize shutting down their own forms of energy
00:07:41.600 generation in favor of Russian sources has left them vulnerable. Canada could have eased that
00:07:46.780 dependency had we only been allowed to develop our own energy infrastructure. We have to force
00:07:52.140 the federal government into addressing domestic energy supplies, no matter how squeamish it seems
00:07:56.100 to make them. There's no better time than right now to work to end the absurd and costly domestic
00:08:01.320 energy embargo that we've put upon ourselves. We don't need to be buying energy products from
00:08:05.540 dictatorships, nor do we need to be paying record prices to fill up our own cars. We have it all
00:08:09.280 right here. We just need the federal government to get out of the damn way so we can develop it. 1.00
00:08:13.240 that's what's got me triggered today so let's get to our news editor Dave Naylor and see what's got 0.52
00:08:21.500 him triggered today hey Corey good to see you Dave hey Corey you know what's got me triggered
00:08:28.060 is that we don't have the downtown to ourselves anymore I mean through the fog of this morning
00:08:34.580 there's nothing but traffic and nowhere to park that's got me triggered yeah I mean it's a good
00:08:40.940 a bad thing we got spoiled with all that uh desolate downtown but it is nice seeing people
00:08:45.740 coming back to work and get a little closer to normal again it is i think those of us who kept
00:08:50.380 coming downtown should get preferred parking spots so absolutely we held the fort exactly we did uh
00:08:58.060 what's making news this morning for us well you remember the uh the fiasco of the phoenix pay
00:09:03.260 system well you know it's you know it's going roughly when the uh feds are having to bring in
00:09:08.460 consultants to fix the work of their first consultants. So we have a story on that. NDP
00:09:14.740 says the Fed spend $12 billion a year on consultants. So if I'd have known that, I may have taken a
00:09:21.780 different line of work. I may have been retired by now. A couple of stories involving Ottawa
00:09:29.420 Carleton MP Pierre Polyev, currently the only announced candidate for the conservative leadership
00:09:35.540 campaign. He's got his gun sights set on Trudeau this morning, blaming the Prime Minister for the
00:09:43.440 Bank of Canada interest rate hike that was announced this morning. That's going to affect
00:09:49.220 a lot of Canadians, making things more expensive. He's also talking about energy,
00:09:55.120 your favorite topic, and urging Trudeau to get out of the way and let a couple of East Coast
00:10:01.900 energy developments get built so that they can start shipping products to Europe and other
00:10:10.500 places. Under the category of the bleeding obvious, we have a study out on the federal
00:10:16.940 civil service, and the majority of them say that nepotism and cronyism is rife in the civil service,
00:10:25.100 so that doesn't come as shocking news to anybody. My favorite story of the day is the Liberals.
00:10:31.900 they're giving free snowmobiles away to people in the arctic uh it's an effort to uh to help the
00:10:38.620 inuit with uh hunting and picking berries so they're spending millions of dollars a year uh
00:10:44.940 sending uh sending snow machines up uh to the arctic so i'm sure they're having fun riding
00:10:51.020 around uh on them and our real estate guy mike thomas checks in uh i've mentioned the interest
00:10:57.020 rate hike of this morning yesterday was the busiest day in 18 years for calgary realtors
00:11:05.580 they are saying people specifically trying to buy condominiums before the interest rate hike
00:11:11.740 took effect so it looks like the real estate market in calgary will be booming or at least
00:11:17.900 was booming for one day yesterday cory uh coming up uh we sent our intrepid mel risden to the mall
00:11:25.980 last night to take a look and just see how many people are wearing masks and how many aren't.
00:11:32.940 So she's going to be filing a first person column on that shortly and lots of other good stuff,
00:11:41.040 I'm sure. Great. Well, always lots to keep everybody busy and it's all back on the site,
00:11:47.080 westernstandardonline.com. So thanks for checking in. I hope you, well, you are going to sneak out
00:11:53.160 early. I think it's just because you want to try and find a better parking space, but you're saying
00:11:56.660 it's automotive work. Yeah, I got to take my car to the car doctor. So if I'm going to having to
00:12:01.920 be fight for a fight for a parking space, I need it to be ramming tough. Okay. All right. Thanks,
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00:13:05.240 come up. People talk about the status of Tamara Leach. We're watching that closely. If we hear 0.96
00:13:10.640 news on what's going on, we'll let you know. She has a bail hearing today. For those not familiar,
00:13:15.240 she's the political prisoner who's been sitting bail for without bail for two weeks now in jail
00:13:21.560 because she was one of the organizers of the truckers convoy protest i mean it
00:13:25.000 it's absurd they brought her in in shackles into the courtroom today uh the judge actually said
00:13:29.720 take those shackles off her and uh they've gone on with the hearings i guess they've adjourned
00:13:33.640 for lunch this is a long time for what should be just a bail hearing we let murderers out on bail 1.00
00:13:37.880 guys she's charged with mischief mischief so yeah that's why i'm calling her a political prisoner 0.99
00:13:43.720 not just a regular run-of-the-mill case here. Was it Carol Bergman Sundberg asking about Bill
00:13:50.560 S-233? Yeah, that's a Senate bill. It stinks, but you know, Senate bills really tend not to go
00:13:55.880 anywhere. They're more like when you look at City Hall or others, they like to make a motion,
00:13:59.540 make noise, but they don't actually do anything with it. So I don't like the bill, but I'm not
00:14:03.840 too worried about it. I don't believe it's going to lead to further troubles. We've got a lot of
00:14:08.880 things that are going to lead to further troubles for us in the future here, but that is not one of
00:14:12.840 them, thankfully. Getting back to mainstream media, you know, that's going to be a lot of
00:14:17.640 the theme today, cancel culture and censorship. And some of it too is just in the coverage and
00:14:24.160 balance. You know, Melanie's going to be talking about what she saw when she went out last night
00:14:28.280 because Alberta's now into day two without masks, without regulations. And we still got a lot of
00:14:32.800 regulations, but the vast majority of them are gone. And with what she saw out there, well,
00:14:37.940 CTV, I mean, again, I like to talk about it because I torture myself at night while I eat
00:14:41.760 supper. It's just a weight loss thing, right? I could lose my appetite watching mainstream media.
00:14:45.660 And they did their streeters, you know, so they went out and they interviewed people on the streets
00:14:49.980 on day one without masks and asked them how they felt about it. And lo and behold, everybody they
00:14:55.220 talked to was, well, I'm going to keep my mask on. I think it's a good idea. I don't think it's time
00:15:00.160 for people to unmask yet. Yeah, no, I'm afraid. I'm really afraid. You know, this is a way that
00:15:06.180 the media manipulates the messaging. And I'll admit, I went out, I did some shopping for groceries
00:15:10.700 last night. I'd say the vast majority in that store were masked. People were masked. But you
00:15:14.440 know what? If it's their choice, I don't care. Go for it. Wear a mask. It doesn't bother me any.
00:15:18.080 But a lot of them weren't. If you're going to do an honest streeter and get out and have a look
00:15:21.740 around, why did they not even find one person? And don't try and tell me there isn't one that
00:15:26.080 they could find and say, oh, it's so nice getting out without a mask. It's been able to smile at
00:15:30.540 people. I've been able to look around and not breathe my own wretched breath. Though, I mean,
00:15:34.480 that's an argument for dental hygiene, but that's a separate case. But you know what I mean?
00:15:37.420 they didn't even try to get balance. Apparently everybody in the city is quite horrified with
00:15:42.280 being unmasked and they're going to remain with masks if you believe the mainstream media.
00:15:47.660 So no, we aren't the mainstream. We don't intend to be. Those are the people who've already
00:15:52.160 accused us of being too far that way already. I assure you guys, that's not where we land.
00:15:58.480 We're just getting bigger. It doesn't mean mainstream. Big difference. So I'm going to
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00:17:28.680 How does Bitcoin work if war takes down the internet?
00:17:31.740 Well, if the whole internet gets taken down,
00:17:36.740 the status of our Bitcoin
00:17:37.900 is going to be the least of our concerns, I'm afraid.
00:17:40.560 As it sits, though, you get actually,
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00:17:45.920 You're not on the, it's not stored on the internet.
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00:17:51.820 And they talk to you about how you can secure that,
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00:18:01.740 wouldn't vanish if the internet gets shut down for a little while or something like that. It's
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00:18:14.960 real companies. So I'm going to bring on lawyer Derek Fromm, and it's going to be, we're going to
00:18:21.400 talk a little bit of legal stuff, but then go beyond some of the usual lawyerly stuff that
00:18:25.560 comes out in these interviews as well. So let's bring him into the studio while virtually here.
00:18:30.360 Anyways. Hey, Derek, how's it going? Not too bad. How are you doing?
00:18:33.720 Oh, good. Good. I mean, I'm day two without a mask, right? Or at least, well, I didn't wear
00:18:37.500 a lot anyways, but I don't have to anymore. Yeah, that's nice. Not having to worry about
00:18:42.560 when you walk in someplace who's judging you and, well, they can judge me. I wouldn't have
00:18:46.800 cared anyway. Well, that's it. And people can potentially, you know, of those few viewers
00:18:50.560 I've got, recognize me and judge me when I go out in public anyways. And it's usually negative,
00:18:54.400 but now I can at least say, you know, they can address me face to face and tell me to get
00:18:57.820 stuffed or whatever. I enjoy those interactions. So, I mean, we'll start just quickly with the
00:19:02.980 legal part before we get onto the musical half of our episode here. We had an email you were
00:19:07.920 talking with. I mean, just Melanie interviewed somebody on that recently too, but let's reiterate
00:19:11.820 a really striking court ruling from the Ontario Superior Court on a case. It was what one of the
00:19:17.300 parents wanted to get the child vaccinated. One of the parents didn't. And it wasn't just that
00:19:22.620 judge ruled in favor of the parent who wanted to choose not to vaccinate but the writing and the
00:19:27.340 ruling was really something that judge kind of went above and beyond to speak about the whole
00:19:31.500 tone of things you can expand a bit on that yeah that it's actually really exciting to
00:19:36.300 find a case like that normally i think judges um they just kind of cut to the get to the point
00:19:42.060 and don't spend a lot of time worrying about how well written the decision is in terms of
00:19:47.900 prose they just try to convey what their reasoning is but here we we have an example of a judge who
00:19:55.740 uh i would say feels deeply enough about this topic and has thought about it enough that he
00:20:00.860 actually put some effort into uh how he expressed his reasoning and it it's quite a striking
00:20:08.540 introduction so the introduction to this decision if if your viewers have read court decisions
00:20:13.820 before usually it's like a laundry list of who did what to whom and when they did it but this
00:20:19.260 is let me let me just read this this is how this goes it's great when did it become illegal to ask
00:20:25.740 questions especially in a courtroom when did it become unfashionable for judges to receive answers
00:20:33.100 especially when children's lives are at stake how did we lower our guards and let the words
00:20:39.260 unacceptable beliefs get paired together fascinating i think that's a quote from
00:20:46.060 someone we know and is misinformation even a real word or has it become a crass self-serving tool
00:20:55.500 preemptive that preempts scrutiny to discredit your opponent so is it is it a trump card just
00:21:00.940 to cast dispersions well it's very fascinating because the judge goes through this and what
00:21:06.460 had happened in this case is the two parents were otherwise good parents but were were they were
00:21:12.620 either separated or divorced and they were having a dispute whether or not their 10 year old and
00:21:16.540 their 12 year old children should be vaccinated the 14 year old had made the decision uh on i
00:21:22.620 can't remember if it was a a daughter or a son but the 14 year old made a decision independent of the
00:21:28.300 parents and chose to be vaccinated uh which the dad was in favor of the mum said okay i'm not
00:21:36.300 in favor of the vaccination but you're 14 you make your own decision now with the 12 and 10
00:21:42.300 year old who were living with the mother she had custody of the two of them she wanted them to be
00:21:49.580 able to make their own decision as well but the father father said no they should be vaccinated
00:21:54.860 this is a very serious disease we can't have them being spreading the disease around etc etc
00:22:01.020 well what the court did is the court actually applied the law as it is the court did its duty
00:22:05.980 though this is not new law this is not changing anything this is just re-establishing what we've
00:22:13.260 all should have known was the case uh throughout the pandemic and that is this when a court is
00:22:20.140 looking at doing something as extraordinary as demanding a child who has charter rights
00:22:25.980 inject something into their body maybe we should ask the kids what they want
00:22:30.380 novel because the law is that what has to be what what is done has to be done in the best
00:22:38.420 interests of the child and certainly a portion of what it means to be done in the best interest of
00:22:44.560 the child is to actually reference what the child wants and so the court did that there was a
00:22:49.940 psychologist that had been working with the children for a number of years because the
00:22:53.020 the family breakdown and the psychologist clearly said look the parents aren't having undue influence
00:22:58.780 over the children's decisions here they're both otherwise good parents they just became that it
00:23:03.980 was just an unlivable situation for them so there wasn't any poisoning going on the children were
00:23:09.420 mature enough to understand the decision that they were making and you know if you look at it children
00:23:15.100 really aren't at risk of covid so there's that there's the fact that uh when you vaccinate you
00:23:22.700 can still spread the disease so the judge was both assured that they weren't the judge wasn't sending
00:23:28.620 these children away to die the judge also was assured that look I'm not sending these children
00:23:34.780 out the community to kill other people as well because the vaccination would make little difference
00:23:39.240 on that front and on top of it the children already had COVID and had recovered and they had
00:23:44.300 demonstrated their natural immunity so there was the judge was like you know I can't see a reason
00:23:50.360 to vaccinate and the mother had brought this evidence that she found online but she brought
00:23:56.200 evidence from like uh dr malone from the cdc from even from pfizer the trial data which showed you
00:24:03.400 know there are complications in some cases with the vaccine she brought that to court but the
00:24:09.160 father's evidence was basically amounted to well you know that's conspiracy theorist she's wearing
00:24:14.280 a tinfoil hat there's pictures of her hanging around with maxine bernier at political events
00:24:19.800 and uh the judge read the father of the riot act not because he's a bad person
00:24:25.320 but because he didn't present evidence he thought it was enough to say your theories have been
00:24:30.200 debunked that's discredited well the government says that it's safe and effective and the the
00:24:37.000 court said you know that's not evidence that's argument and if you can turn to page or the
00:24:44.280 paragraph 67 it's brilliant that you have it there paragraph 67 is a wonderful paragraph
00:24:51.400 you know in times of uncertainty like what we have right now where we're looking at the
00:24:55.640 pfizer trial data and the warning labels on on the vaccines and there are risks this is
00:25:01.400 not a risk-free procedure yet the government is saying safe and effective is that evidence
00:25:08.040 well no it's not because has the government ever been wrong before yeah we were just talking about
00:25:14.760 their payroll system with the phoenix uh what is it 25 years they've been working on that they
00:25:18.600 can't get their paychecks right that's right it's been a long time trust them with medical opinions
00:25:24.120 so yeah in paragraph 67 look at this it's sterilization it's uh there we go in c what
00:25:33.480 about internment camps what about thalidomide the government gets things wrong of course it's safe
00:25:39.880 and effective according to the government but they're not always right you have to bring evidence
00:25:45.320 that's just saying debunked, yelling conspiracy theory, and saying the other side is anti-science,
00:25:52.600 that's not enough in court any longer. Yeah, well, it was good that he spoke up on,
00:25:56.940 you know, how that was trying, where the attempt was made to make a political association a factor
00:26:01.540 in this. And that's a dangerous road to go down. And for him to slap it down so thoroughly in that,
00:26:07.980 again, it's not saying he likes or dislikes the people, he's just saying it's irrelevant. We
00:26:10.940 don't bring that in here. That's not where we want to go. The deeper issue is that this gentleman
00:26:16.200 felt that he was making a case by doing that. And it shows the atmosphere going around Canada right
00:26:20.920 now, which is distressing, but all the same, it's something. So for people who want to get the whole
00:26:28.360 thing and maybe email me, I can send you a link to where the ruling is. It's hard to, it's a long
00:26:32.620 I think it's what, from Canly Online, I believe.
00:26:37.140 And send an email to me at cmorganatwesternstandardonline.com.
00:26:42.180 And I'll send you a link so you can read the whole ruling
00:26:44.400 because usually court rulings are pretty boring and dry to read.
00:26:48.120 That's why we pay guys like Derek to deal with it.
00:26:50.440 But in this case, it's actually quite an engaging read.
00:26:53.900 And it's, in my view, a bit inspiring to know
00:26:57.020 that there's still some people on the bench
00:26:58.360 who take that job very seriously on adjudicating
00:27:01.620 and you know, ruling and trying to keep fact in the courtroom. That's right. Yeah. So I'll bounce
00:27:07.760 on to another area now where we're talking about censorship and oddness. So a lot of people might
00:27:11.620 not know this, but you've been part of the heavy metal band for quite some time now.
00:27:15.920 Yeah. And yeah, I just wanted to, I got a picture to Nico to show my credentials to speak to this
00:27:21.920 sort of thing. I cut my teeth on Judas Priest and Iron Maiden and Crocus and some of those,
00:27:28.560 you know, Saxon, some of those earlier heavy metal bands in the more distant past. But I had
00:27:33.600 the hair, I had the single earring, and of course, all the black t-shirts to support my case at that.
00:27:38.420 I am coming from a position of authority on this subject. Yes, yes. But you were talking also,
00:27:43.740 so your band, though, recently put out a video on YouTube and a number of things, as bands will do,
00:27:49.740 and it was pretty contemporary. You were, you know, you had the footage of the protests and
00:27:54.700 and showed some Tiananmen squares comparisons,
00:27:57.480 and it got censored.
00:27:58.680 Yeah, it did, it was fascinating.
00:28:00.000 Yeah, so we recorded this song
00:28:04.260 and wanted to do a video for it
00:28:05.460 to announce that we had a new vocalist.
00:28:06.880 And we're a death metal band,
00:28:08.340 so I'm kind of tired of doing the vocals myself,
00:28:11.440 always gives me a headache.
00:28:12.680 And I'm kind of a wimp now that I'm old.
00:28:14.900 So we have a new vocalist,
00:28:16.280 and we recorded this song,
00:28:18.500 which was written by a Jewish guitarist,
00:28:21.280 that's relevant, as you'll see,
00:28:23.320 a Jewish guitarist from Montreal named Ari Eichmann.
00:28:26.060 And Ari wrote this song for a band named Quobadis about 20 years ago.
00:28:31.420 And I've been told since that time has transpired that what the song is actually about is about the Jewish ghettos in Poland in World War II.
00:28:39.780 It's a song called I Believe.
00:28:41.400 And it struck me after Jason Kenney's cohorts arrested a few pastors in the province last year that this was an appropriate song and somewhat relevant to Alberta.
00:28:52.880 so we decided let's record this song this will be like the test run of our new vocalist nick
00:28:57.680 and um and so finally uh when it came time to put the the video together the lyric video just to
00:29:04.240 tell our 10 fans uh about nick's joining the band um we decide hey let's use some of the
00:29:12.000 trucker protest video footage and uh so we sent our our um our video guy a couple of well actually
00:29:19.520 we sent them all youtube footage so it's footage from news services uh and it's all drawn from
00:29:25.680 youtube so there's Tiananmen Square as you say and then it kind of morphs into like more contemporary
00:29:31.840 with the truckers waving Canadian flags driving backs past crowds of people at perimeter highway
00:29:36.960 in Winnipeg and having a good time in front of the parliament buildings in Ottawa so it's very
00:29:43.920 fascinating so we recorded this song i i uploaded it the video to youtube and uh the vocalist uh
00:29:53.600 when he went to share it he noticed well actually there's there's three comments on the video but
00:29:57.200 they disappeared and comments have been disabled so logged into the account and like oh the video
00:30:05.120 has now been rated as plus 18. no idea why i mean it's death metal but people under the age of 18
00:30:13.760 listen to our style of music and uh certainly no reason there's no swearing there's no uh
00:30:19.920 graphic violence in the lyrics uh any violence in the protesters uh of protests of it's all footage
00:30:28.080 drawn directly from youtube often we actually intentionally left the the news source logo in
00:30:34.320 the corner and so you can see oh this is from global news oh this is from rebel this is from
00:30:39.200 you know whatever news source it is and um and so what ended up happening is uh over the next few
00:30:44.720 days youtube then not only to disable the comments gave it an 18 plus rating but then now have
00:30:49.920 subsequently deleted the video just removed it from the website because it promotes violence
00:30:57.280 against children and families which is absolutely hey there's my picture absolutely ludicrous like
00:31:07.040 it's just it's not even possible that it's that it's that way but um you know uh my vocalist
00:31:12.960 nick he was right from the beginning he said you know it's gonna get censored because it's gonna
00:31:18.320 get cast it's gonna be assumed to be anti-vax just like the truckers and nothing nothing could be
00:31:25.680 further from the truth i mean we're not taking an anti-vax position like the truckers we're taking
00:31:32.000 an anti-mandate position which is individualism individual autonomy and that's really what we're
00:31:40.160 after in the video and so we're thinking now of uh taking a step back getting the video remade
00:31:47.120 with 100 trucker footage and show them like sitting in hot tubs kids on bouncy castles
00:31:55.840 maybe even kneeling and praying like all this stuff happy people doing happy stuff yeah we'll
00:32:02.160 we'll see what how they how they decide it's against uh youtube standards now and you see
00:32:06.000 there you go there's a there's a logo in the corner um rt and it's this was all footage drawn
00:32:12.640 from youtube so it's it's um it's censored when it's paired with a message that says
00:32:20.240 individualism good and individual autonomy good and persecution of the individual bad
00:32:28.080 when it's when that footage is paired with that lyric message youtube doesn't like it it's violence
00:32:34.400 against children somehow yeah and it's just getting absurd you know and as claude was saying
00:32:38.960 put it on rumble actually it already is uh that's where this is from same sort of thing you want to
00:32:43.200 email me i can send you a link to that as well um as you said that's deaf metal it's more of a
00:32:47.840 different kind of vocals than than i listen to with my old metal but it's still a lot of people's
00:32:52.400 enjoyment certainly uh and again i mean you you handing it off i mean if rob halford can still
00:32:57.520 hit those notes today i don't see why you can't still do it yeah yeah then we'll leave people to
00:33:02.720 decide what notes can be hit when they listen to the song yeah and you talked about some of the
00:33:08.160 the other stuff with um i mean the the origins of heavy metal the roots of it i mean it's an
00:33:12.880 anti-establishment sort of music it's pushing back against authority uh that's why there was
00:33:19.440 such a strong development of it in in east germany or even in in uh the eastern europe i mean back
00:33:24.960 in the in the 80s that's where a lot of great stuff came out of because that was their their
00:33:29.120 means of expression and uh you know like any expression it should be protected that's right
00:33:33.920 and and and i i agree with that wholeheartedly uh heavy metal is just an example of avant-garde art
00:33:40.960 let's say and i i will defend that term art in this context um but it's it's that sort of fringes
00:33:48.720 fringe boundary where it's it's outside the norm that's where actual commentary still happens you
00:33:54.720 don't get social commentary by pricking up a christina aguilera whoever cd or you know sad
00:34:01.280 to say some of the the canadian mainstays uh like the tragically hip you're not going to get stunning
00:34:06.960 commentary on society from from bands like that but when you get out into the fringes into uh you
00:34:15.120 know more esoteric and that goes for visual arts painting uh for for novels everything it's when
00:34:22.400 you get out to that that's that's when you get actual commentary and so heavy metal has always
00:34:27.360 been uh an individual opposed to society that's why you see such anti-establishment in imagery
00:34:34.640 involved in the genre so often like you see anti-religious anti-state and the same thing
00:34:40.480 for punk and for hard rock and this is this is not only um incidental to the genre it's absolutely
00:34:49.440 necessary it's it forms part of the message you can't you can't write a hardcore punk song that
00:34:57.440 goes raw raw everything's okay the state is wonderful it'll take care of me that that the
00:35:02.640 message would not fit the medium. I was just gonna say, it's not a left-right thing. I mean,
00:35:08.560 if you look at Rage Against the Machine, for example, I mean, they're very left-leaning,
00:35:11.760 but they're raging against the establishment. I mean, almost as it's in their name or
00:35:16.560 Pantera, you know, vulgar display of power. They're pushing back and it's not necessarily
00:35:21.360 even a simple political ideology. It's people, young people often express just a means to 0.94
00:35:27.200 say they're not content with the status quo and it's been important.
00:35:30.560 yeah and that and that's very important like in my band sympathy we don't all agree on these issues
00:35:37.040 but the one thing we do agree on is that we're not status quo people and uh we we are somewhat
00:35:43.840 to a degree outsiders and uh we view ourselves that way in in opposition i guess you could say
00:35:49.920 or in contrast with what the status quo is and uh so i mean in like just to put this to bed i mean
00:35:57.040 there's there's people in my band that i think all of us have received vaccines i don't know that i
00:36:03.520 would never even dream of asking about that so it's ludicrous to say that we're anti-vax
00:36:09.360 yeah well and also it's ludicrous to say we're promoting violence against children
00:36:14.560 yeah well and the the uh again it's it's the the quelling of discourse it's it's trying to get
00:36:19.840 group think going on uh what is it belinda bringing up megadeth yeah that's one of the
00:36:22.960 of the ones from my youth too peace sells uh but again they were talking about issues and things
00:36:28.620 such as that uh but in in a way that people enjoy through music and it's an art form as you said just
00:36:33.340 like other uh visual arts or written art i mean again look back to uh neil young when he sang
00:36:39.300 about kent state you know the establishment didn't want to hear about that they didn't want your
00:36:42.860 average listener to you know realize that university protesters got gunned down and uh i'm sure a lot
00:36:49.320 people would have loved to have censored him at that time yeah uh we we just don't want to go
00:36:53.800 down this road and it's a forgotten area well just because it's you know death metal i mean we should
00:36:57.300 just ignore it well no this is a artistic expression that we really should be protecting
00:37:01.020 yeah yeah it is it is a commentary and uh i i think what's and the dovetail back to the
00:37:07.740 the court decision um it's that sort of shutting off of debate and not not to say that social
00:37:16.300 debate needs to happen in the context of death metal because that would be a very poor way to
00:37:20.220 have a debate but um it's indicative of a problem we have in society where our first reflex is to
00:37:27.060 cancel and uh i mean that was the father's problem in that court decision is his reflex was not to
00:37:34.800 bring evidence but to seek to cancel his wife's opinions and that's exactly what's what's happened
00:37:40.740 to me and my band with YouTube is instead of actually being able to judge the content I'm
00:37:47.440 assuming it was more than an algorithm at the point where they delete someone probably viewed it
00:37:51.420 and their reflex was to cancel and that's that's a sad state because it's sort of impoverished
00:37:58.600 and and I always think back to something that Christopher Hitchens said before he died is that
00:38:05.820 he he made an observation that there's this idea in Canada about well it wasn't Canada in particular
00:38:10.260 but multiculturalism that it was such a wonderful thing i wouldn't say that it's not but what it's
00:38:17.300 become is very different than actual multiculturalism his his point was that it's a very
00:38:23.140 surface thing it's like well i can go buy a curry down the street in london or i can go to a chinese
00:38:28.340 restaurant it people's notion is multiculturalism is different types of food and the clothes you
00:38:34.180 wear but if we if we have actual diversity of opinion well that's too much as long as we all
00:38:42.980 believe the same thing and think exactly the same thing we can eat different foods and dress
00:38:47.700 differently that's great that's canada that's super no multiculturalism has to mean more than
00:38:55.220 that it has to also mean diversity of opinion in a diversity of views it has to go below the
00:39:00.500 the surface. It has to be much more. We can't be cancelling other people because that means we're
00:39:06.520 only more impoverished in our own views when we do that. And it's a sad reflex. It's pathetic.
00:39:11.960 It is. Diversity through conformity. As ridiculous as that statement is, that's where they're trying 0.99
00:39:17.440 to go with it. And it's an absurdity. At least we're in an incredible time that, hey, YouTube 0.98
00:39:22.860 can shut you down, but you're springing up over on Rumble. And we are getting more and more means
00:39:27.920 of getting it out no matter how much the state
00:39:30.000 and others, the social media giants
00:39:32.060 want to play whack-a-mole and keep
00:39:33.980 a singular message going on out there
00:39:35.960 it still leaks out the sides
00:39:38.160 and people who would participate
00:39:40.040 in something like heavy metal or some of the hard rock
00:39:41.960 or punk, they're not going to let themselves get
00:39:43.560 shut down by these little efforts
00:39:45.600 either, so
00:39:46.780 I appreciate you guys pushing on and some others
00:39:49.820 are saying they're looking forward to your
00:39:51.080 remastered video if that's what you do
00:39:53.620 and just that reminder then, so your band's name is Sympathy
00:39:55.780 you're on Rumble and
00:39:57.740 where else can we find what you're doing legally and stuff like that before i let you go well you
00:40:01.200 can also find the band on band camp and uh we have a few releases up there it's uh you can take a
00:40:07.480 listen uh you can also uh catch me often in the western standard on twitter also um derek james
00:40:14.220 from i say too much and have too many opinions and share them too freely i just don't care anymore
00:40:20.340 and uh i i'm at uh warnock craft anderson in erdry where i'm practicing law right on well
00:40:27.460 good to see you again Derek and yeah it was an interesting discussion so you know it says we can
00:40:32.180 mix politics with music and all sorts of stuff yeah that's right so I'll talk to you again soon
00:40:37.320 I'm sure okay bye-bye thanks so yes that was Derek from lawyer death metal former singer extraordinaire
00:40:45.120 guitars the whole works and yeah check out that picture online with that hair he's got those ones
00:40:49.280 in his past too so uh oh that was it was a good talk and again I mean as you're saying it's that
00:40:54.980 first instinct. The instincts, I don't like that, shut it down. Well, hang on. You don't like it?
00:40:58.640 Don't listen. Let it go. But that's not where we are. We're at this centralized area of thought
00:41:04.860 that this person is associated there. That's why we have to shut down their voice. This person
00:41:08.780 addressed that. That's why we have to shut them down. This is not a good development in society.
00:41:14.240 This is not moving forward as people. This is not healthy. And it goes all the way down,
00:41:19.740 all the way from the top on extremely important court hearings with families, all the way down to
00:41:24.820 again, expression through things like bands or as Derek said, I mean, the art pieces, artists
00:41:30.020 throughout history. I mean, we're talking to medieval times where people who helped inspire
00:41:36.220 change and inspire different thinking. And, you know, you can't shut it down. It's bad for society.
00:41:43.300 So I'm going to go to an ad break here before I talk about some more new stuff.
00:41:46.940 Let's talk about the Canada Shooting Sports Association. Speaking of freedoms,
00:41:50.460 speaking of things that the government doesn't want us to have. They do not want you to have,
00:41:55.060 enjoy, trade, collect firearms. You know, most of us, well, I don't know, a lot of people,
00:42:01.080 millions of Canadians safely, responsibly enjoy firearms all the time, whether they're hunting,
00:42:05.380 target, shooting, collecting, it doesn't matter. As long as they're not harming anybody else,
00:42:09.360 it's nobody's business what they do with the firearms. Well, the Canada Shooting Sports
00:42:12.900 Association, I mean, their name says it all. They're an association for the people who enjoy
00:42:16.400 firearms and to give you the means to enjoy them and resources, everything from trade shows to
00:42:23.320 videos on safe handling of firearms. And I like to think most importantly is they are, I've got
00:42:30.360 court challenges out there. They're standing up on behalf of firearm owners. They're pushing back
00:42:34.820 against the liberal government because the government's trying to take these away and
00:42:38.400 you need to join them. That's the, you see, nobody else is going to stand up for you as a firearms
00:42:43.320 owner, you got to stand up for yourself. And these guys need members, get on there, check them out,
00:42:48.100 take out a membership so they can keep helping you keep your firearms. It's a Canadian shooting 0.99
00:42:54.200 sports association. It's easiest just to Google it and find it, but their website also is cssa-cila.org.
00:43:03.200 And yeah, you know, support those guys, take out a membership. It's important.
00:43:07.620 All right. So let's talk about, you know, we're going to be on the pipeline this afternoon,
00:43:12.540 by the way, with Derek Fildebrand. And I think we're going to have Melanie because Dave, as he
00:43:17.240 said, had to get his car repaired. We're going to talk about some of the stuff in Ukraine.
00:43:20.720 Let's talk about some of the nuanced discussion we've seen online going on already. Kamala Harris,
00:43:25.400 the American vice president. This is a quote from her. This is the discourse level at the top levels
00:43:30.780 of government in the United States right now. Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next
00:43:38.440 to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country.
00:43:45.080 Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically, that's wrong.
00:43:51.880 Sounded like a female Trudeau. I'm surprised this wasn't put into a pop-up book. 0.86
00:43:57.460 Who are you talking to? I mean, what a condescending shallow... I mean, we're talking 1.00
00:44:03.400 about a potential world war going on. We got a nuclear power invading a European nation and you
00:44:10.800 and you talk like an imbecile. And this is the, you know, as Dave put the other day, you know, 1.00
00:44:15.340 as people say, one breath away from the presidency. And I mean, Biden, I guess if anybody wants to
00:44:22.780 make sure Biden remains healthy and is cognitively capable as possible, there's another reason for it
00:44:27.720 because if for some reason he's not the president, that's what we've got. Look at that. North America
00:44:32.920 I'll have Justin Trudeau at the head over here and Kamala Harris down there in the United States.
00:44:38.900 What a frightening thought, again, especially in a world going on right now with turmoil.
00:44:44.340 Let's see what else we've got going on the news scroll.
00:44:46.600 You know something going on?
00:44:47.420 I've been watching City Council.
00:44:48.760 I'm going to be interviewing Sonia Sharp in the future here, and we're going to talk about some of the stuff there.
00:44:54.560 She's been a very impressive councillor, actually, most definitely her own person.
00:44:57.880 And some people kind of thought everybody with a union endorsement is going to toe the line for the unions and do things like that.
00:45:04.800 No, she's been actually very outspoken and nuanced and is most definitely her own person when it comes to policies and things.
00:45:10.740 So that's refreshing out of City Hall and councillors.
00:45:14.680 And something we've got now kind of ripening up into a battle, and I'm a little torn on it, is Jason Kinney and the UCP are looking to amend the Municipalities Act.
00:45:25.240 That's a mouthful, isn't it?
00:45:26.080 Maybe they should amend it just to make it shorter so I can pronounce it on the shows properly.
00:45:31.280 So that municipal governments can't keep things like mask mandates or vaccine passports and things such as that on the go.
00:45:41.200 And I'm kind of mixed.
00:45:43.100 I don't like when I see the more distant central government coming down on the localized government.
00:45:49.760 At the same time, I don't like seeing localized government overriding the health authorities and doing things that are outside of their jurisdiction.
00:45:55.680 So this is actually a little more complicated than one would think.
00:45:59.420 I mean, most of why SOHI and Gondek didn't want to go off of the mandates and things like that in the past is it's about control.
00:46:07.040 And it's about having a pissing match with the premier.
00:46:10.100 I mean, they're fighting back and forth.
00:46:11.840 They just want to make sure they have that ability.
00:46:15.360 But at the same time, how often do you want the provincial government to override your local one?
00:46:23.160 You know, I hate to say it, but what if we had Premier Notley again?
00:46:25.960 Do you want her in charge of development in your area or region? 0.98
00:46:29.200 Do you want her to override your locally elected officials?
00:46:32.960 So we're getting into some difficult waters going on there right now.
00:46:36.220 But at the same time, I mean, I think it's ridiculous that Sohi in Edmonton is keeping a mask mandate going on while the rest of the province doesn't have one.
00:46:43.820 It's a punitive measure against not just the people there, but the businesses.
00:46:47.940 Think about the people who own businesses anywhere around the periphery of Edmonton.
00:46:52.860 You've got satellite cities all the way around that city.
00:46:55.640 Shoppers will, and I know they will.
00:46:57.240 I've done it.
00:46:58.320 They will leave the area to go shop unmasked.
00:47:01.100 They will leave the area to go dine where they don't have to put a chin diaper on to
00:47:04.560 go to the bathroom. 1.00
00:47:05.720 They'll do it.
00:47:06.340 And it's going to hurt their local businesses that have already been hurting enough over
00:47:10.120 this whole bloody pandemic from start to end. 1.00
00:47:14.340 So, I mean, it's a stupid, stupid decision on the part of Edmonton's council and mayor 1.00
00:47:18.620 and a bad one. 1.00
00:47:19.960 but at the same time, how much do we want the provincial government to be the ones to come in
00:47:26.660 and crack down on it? It's tough. I mean, and I look at the same thing, you know, when Gondek
00:47:30.860 keeps like going on, you know, the government should intervene and pull Sean Chu out of the
00:47:34.720 council in Calgary. They should rip them out of there. Okay. Do you really want the premier to
00:47:41.900 do that? We don't like this elected official, so we're going to just rip them out of there.
00:47:45.480 We don't like that one, so we're just going to pull them out. Are you sure you want that,
00:47:47.840 Gondek? Maybe, maybe the premier won't like you. It defeats the purpose of having a local election.
00:47:53.760 And I know there's a lot of controversy with Sean Chu, and it should be up to the electors
00:47:57.700 to deal with that, not the Alberta government. I'm not saying whether Sean should be there or not.
00:48:03.300 Again, that decision, though, should land on the people of Ward 4. And maybe if Kenny actually
00:48:08.340 brought in real recall legislation, that decision could be brought to them sooner rather than later.
00:48:11.880 But for the time being, I don't think Gondek really, this shows how two-faced she is.
00:48:18.840 She's upset if Kennedy's going to bring in that legislation, but at the same time, she
00:48:22.000 wants Kennedy to overstep and move in on removing elected officials that she doesn't like.
00:48:27.240 So we just got to be careful with policy.
00:48:28.960 Got to be careful with authority.
00:48:30.400 You want to watch.
00:48:31.500 I like government to be as close to people as possible.
00:48:35.280 But at the same time, I don't want city council to be in charge of health care in general.
00:48:40.080 I mean, look at those guys. 1.00
00:48:40.840 They're a bunch of morons. 1.00
00:48:42.400 They can barely run their own meetings as it sits. 1.00
00:48:44.560 You know, there's a few bright lights in there, 1.00
00:48:45.840 but for the most part, these guys do idiot things. 1.00
00:48:47.940 I don't want them in charge of our healthcare system. 1.00
00:48:49.780 They can barely get the snow off our streets
00:48:51.260 or to pick the garbage up on time. 0.98
00:48:54.300 So politics, politics, politics.
00:48:56.960 I mean, maybe if Kenny coupled his thing
00:48:59.120 with a regional plan,
00:49:00.280 like something for regional responses
00:49:01.680 if the pandemic was going to keep going.
00:49:03.400 I remember an area that Drew Barnes,
00:49:04.860 before he got kicked out of caucus even,
00:49:06.520 was very strong in.
00:49:07.580 He was pointing out that,
00:49:08.860 well, if we look at the numbers,
00:49:10.240 infections, hospitalizations,
00:49:11.880 Medicine Hat had very, very few when the province was locked down. But I mean,
00:49:15.900 in the bigger cities and some other areas, it was getting strong, but Medicine Hat was okay.
00:49:19.440 And he was saying, well, why don't you lift the regulations here in Medicine Hat for us then?
00:49:24.280 I mean, maybe that could make it a little more understandable. You can address certain areas
00:49:28.480 rather than having a central government do the same thing across the entire province. That's a
00:49:32.360 better way to govern, you know, reflect regional realities and views and things such as that.
00:49:37.380 Uh, let's see what else we got. Yeah. Cabinet yesterday, they faced demands at target Russian
00:49:43.760 investors, uh, in Canada, including billionaire owners of a federally subsidized Regina steel
00:49:49.120 mill once toured by finance minister, Chrystia Freeland. Uh, let's see what this liberal appointed
00:49:55.780 Senator said, punishing Russia for its invasion of Ukraine may involve some sacrifice for us,
00:49:59.600 said the liberal appointed Senator. Uh, situation calls for Canada to do everything it can. Uh,
00:50:05.200 This is Brett Cotter in Saskatchewan. He raised the need for the imposition of sanctions on
00:50:08.900 Russian businesses in Canada, not just freezing their bank accounts. Okay. And so this is where
00:50:12.760 things start getting challenging as well and difficult as you can see with the graphic that
00:50:17.420 Nico brought up. We do want to push back. We do want to, you know, exert what we can against the
00:50:24.300 Russian, you know, invasion going on over there. But at the same time, how much damage do we want 1.00
00:50:29.620 to do to ourself? And I'm not worried so much even about the owners of this facility. And it
00:50:34.300 sounds like it took some subsidies from the tax dollars as it is. So we're stuck owning it already,
00:50:38.980 which we shouldn't be doing in the first place. But there are going to be a lot of people put
00:50:42.660 out of work if we start shutting down those businesses that are interspersed with foreign
00:50:46.040 ownership. So tread carefully, I guess is all I could say to that. Make sure you watch your
00:50:54.540 policies. Don't do knee-jerk things. And we're seeing a lot of knee-jerk governance going on
00:50:59.340 Canada these days in general. In the question period there, was it Cotter specifically named
00:51:06.040 Evraz? It's a publicly traded steel pipe manufacturer. It's got mills and facilities
00:51:10.260 in Regina, Calgary, Red Deer, and Camrose. It's very Western. It's the largest steelmaker west
00:51:16.000 of the Great Lakes. So how many people, how many Canadians are you willing to put out of work 0.74
00:51:20.720 though with these sanctions? And maybe we should, I don't know. I'm not saying this is a good idea
00:51:25.040 a bad idea at this point. I'm just saying this is where policy isn't as cut and dry as a lot of
00:51:30.120 people think. As I kind of said earlier, economic sanctions are really the only power we've got at
00:51:36.100 this point as a nation. We don't have the military forces to be able to do much to push Russia and 0.60
00:51:40.900 we don't want to. Do you really want to send Canadian forces into Ukraine right now? Of course
00:51:45.700 not. I mean, not only would that turn that from a conflict between two nations into a military one
00:51:51.760 between a number of them. But I don't think we want to see our young Canadians going over there
00:51:57.400 and potentially dying for this, even if we're concerned. So we're in a complicated period of
00:52:06.400 world policy, whilst we unfortunately have some simplistic leadership. And getting to
00:52:12.080 Kamala Harris and Justin Trudeau and then the concerns about them right now,
00:52:16.500 I just hope that the smarter minds can prevail. I hope both of them are handing off the diplomatic
00:52:23.440 roles to people who are better in that, who are a little better educated and can think a little
00:52:29.220 better on their feet than those two. Because if those two baboons are the ones, oh, please don't 1.00
00:52:35.480 misinterpret what I was saying with that. I meant more of clowns, are the ones making those policies 1.00
00:52:41.500 over there. We're going to be in for a world war at the rate they go. I mean, let's talk about 0.98
00:52:45.500 stupid government policy here right now. Wait a minute. Here we go with Gary saying Russia's on 1.00
00:52:51.640 the right side of history. Okay. We can have this debate with viewers. And I've heard a bit of that 0.93
00:52:56.420 from people. Guys, they invaded Ukraine. There's no right side there. You can have legitimate beefs 0.99
00:53:03.420 with Ukraine. You can have sanctions with Ukraine. You can even talk about the little regions on the
00:53:08.160 side. But no, no, they are not in the right side of history. They're invading what was a peaceful,
00:53:12.800 sovereign nation. It's not the right side of history. This is expansionist. This is what
00:53:19.860 leads to world wars. This is the problem. I mean, Hitler was bad enough with his own country
00:53:26.760 until he popped on into Poland. And then we started to get a much bigger problem. And of 0.91
00:53:33.320 course, he kept expanding from there. And they are certainly not on the right side of history.
00:53:38.060 And no, no, there's no excuse for Russia going into Ukraine. And people said, oh,
00:53:42.240 there was corruption going on in Ukraine. Well, probably. Well, that's pretty common in Eastern 0.99
00:53:46.520 Europe, unfortunately. I saw a lot of that when I was over there. As well, I mean, they were saying, 1.00
00:53:52.860 oh, we've got some neo-Nazi movements. Well, again, unfortunately, when you get millions of
00:53:56.720 people, yeah, you're going to get a handful of those kind of idiots. You always do. It doesn't 1.00
00:54:00.380 mean that the neighboring nation can invade and take over the nation to deal with it.
00:54:05.040 You know, I'm sure we've got some sort of chapter of neo-Nazi peckerheads somewhere in Canada.
00:54:10.020 Does that mean the United States would be justified in saying, we're going to come in and take over Canada to stop that?
00:54:17.600 No.
00:54:18.940 I'm sorry, guys.
00:54:19.840 This is Putin's thing.
00:54:21.320 And we're seeing Russians protesting as well.
00:54:24.060 The Russian citizens aren't so terribly thrilled with this whole thing either.
00:54:28.320 And I just don't.
00:54:30.140 I mean, again, we can disagree.
00:54:31.560 And clearly we do. 0.61
00:54:32.560 That's fine. 0.75
00:54:33.900 But I do not see Russia being on the right side of history in this whatsoever. 0.83
00:54:37.120 ever. You know, NATO wasn't much of anything. What? Why so many of you guys, Ukraine's not 0.62
00:54:46.660 peaceful? Really? Was Ukraine going to invade Russia? Ukraine committed genocide on the Russians
00:54:53.380 living in Ukraine? B.S. That's just B.S. So you see, this is what I'm talking about. We've got
00:54:57.980 to get on to real discussions, guys, not this crap that's going around. And, you know, there's 0.93
00:55:05.780 problems. It's a complicated area. There's definitely things. Educate myself before
00:55:10.080 condemning Russia. I have. I've been there. Have you? I've been to Ukraine as well. They're 0.82
00:55:15.580 complicated. Yeah. Eastern Ukraine, I think there probably is a majority of them would rather be
00:55:19.360 Russian. And these are tight-knit nations next to each other. But it doesn't justify invading
00:55:26.320 a peaceful country. It doesn't. So make your excuses, guys. Most of the world, and if we're
00:55:32.340 talking about history, they're not supporting. You guys are supporting Putin. That's fine. If
00:55:36.560 you're into dictators, go to town. I'm not. And I'm sorry, but I am not going to support
00:55:43.900 the peaceful invasion. Not peaceful invasion, the violent invasion of a peaceful neighbor.
00:55:51.020 So let's move on to some other things. Let's talk about snowmobiles for northerners.
00:55:54.960 Speaking of government getting into areas they shouldn't. So the Department of Crown
00:55:58.460 indigenous relations uh dave talked about that earlier talked about free snowmobiles being
00:56:02.540 purchased under a multi-million dollar program to promote indigenous hunting and berry picking
00:56:07.340 uh i spent a a few years up in uh working in the inuvik area in tuktuk when i was in the oil field
00:56:14.540 as well you know they got a thing because a lot of people are probably uh oh dallas is disgusted
00:56:19.180 with me well go away dallas so uh you could they had what's called the rangers i think they're
00:56:25.260 still going up there. I mean, this is getting back to the Cold War days, you know, they would
00:56:29.460 give old 303s to the local natives and have them patrol the Arctic. I mean, to a degree, there was,
00:56:35.040 you didn't have the sort of modern, you know, satellite imagery radar, things like that. So
00:56:38.920 you did need the dew line, you need people on the ground and stuff like that to keep an eye on our
00:56:43.200 northern area. I don't think they could have held off a Russian invasion back then, but they could 0.92
00:56:47.240 be that first warning and then first line of defense, I guess you can, you could say up in
00:56:53.920 the north and things like that. They used to give them snowmobiles for that. But I mean, that
00:56:57.060 need is gone. So now they've moved on and say, well, now they need it for hunting.
00:57:03.020 This is interesting. You know, one of the problems, and I dealt with that when we were
00:57:08.460 out on the ice and Tuk-Tuk-Tuk and areas like that. And we actually shared our camp with
00:57:12.520 researchers because they didn't have the budget to get out there on the ice and look at things
00:57:16.360 in the Arctic. But we had the budget as an oil company out there to do it. So we actually hosted
00:57:21.440 them let them come in there. There was one where they were studying seal populations out near
00:57:26.880 Tuk-Tayaktuk and there was this drill ship that was frozen into the ice nearby. And essentially
00:57:32.100 they'd already come up with a hypothesis saying seal populations are definitely going to be
00:57:35.820 lower because the drilling up there is going to scare them away and the Beaufort Sea and it's
00:57:40.780 really going to disrupt them. And they brought these dogs up. This shows how bright they were
00:57:45.080 too. And we saw the video of it. It was sad actually. They brought up these gold retrievers
00:57:49.340 and such that they had trained to sniff out seal holes. And they'd done it through seal scent in
00:57:54.820 hockey rinks and things. So they could train the dog to get out and smell where there's been seals
00:57:59.880 and such. And they brought them to the Arctic. I think they believe like David Suzuki's lines
00:58:06.300 and things like that on how cold it is up there. And it's incredibly cold. You've never felt cold
00:58:14.660 till you've been on the Beaufort Sea in February. I tell you, the wind never stops. We're talking
00:58:18.760 a thermometer temperature where you're averaging minus 40. I mean, the wind chill when you put it
00:58:22.600 on top of that is just obscene. I don't know how the polar bears and the ptarmigan and the
00:58:26.420 Arctic foxes really managed to survive up there, but they do. Either way, the first thing that
00:58:30.820 happened is a bunch of these dogs had their feet amputated because they froze their feet off when 1.00
00:58:33.900 these idiots took them out there to try and find the seal holes. It was stupid. Then they went out 1.00
00:58:39.520 further and they did manage to find and check and tag some seals and everything. And what they
00:58:44.780 discovered was right around the drill ship where they figured the seals were all going to be chased
00:58:47.920 away and scared off. There were loads of them. In fact, there were more seals than they expected
00:58:53.020 because so it blew their hypothesis. We didn't hear much about that study afterwards because
00:58:57.340 it didn't come to the conclusion they wanted to hear. The other thing they discovered was there
00:59:00.140 was a lot of polar bears around there and they were shocked. Like how do we got so many polar
00:59:04.060 bears around here? Well, because polar bears eat seals, they follow the seals. But they said, yes,
00:59:07.880 but we got the numbers from around Tuktoyaktuk. And this is where I'm coming around in a long way
00:59:11.480 with this story here, but it's some truth to it. There are very few polar bears around Tuktoyaktuk.
00:59:16.340 Well, yes. But why is that the case? It's because the locals there had snowmobiles and rifles.
00:59:22.700 They've shot all the polar bears. They've hunted the seals. The numbers are down. Anywhere within
00:59:27.820 snowmobile range of a center in the Arctic, you're not going to have a lot of games. Same thing with
00:59:31.620 the caribou. But you get out like us as the oil field and so on, get farther beyond it,
00:59:36.560 then you do see a lot of wildlife in the Arctic, in fact. And a lot of the numbers they reflect,
00:59:41.940 see all these studies can afford is to get into populated areas and check the numbers. But it
00:59:47.420 gives a skewed number. If you get outside a snowmobile range, you're going to see much larger
00:59:52.280 natural wildlife numbers going on out there. Either way, now we're getting to this. We have
00:59:57.440 to give free machines to the Inuit and so on so they can hunt and get farther up there, I guess.
01:00:01.960 And the interesting thing, too, is they also said to promote berry picking. Look, in berry season,
01:00:07.640 snowmobiles aren't terribly handy. So they might want to research a little more on their
01:00:11.640 justification for this as well. I don't want to take the snowmobiles away from people living in
01:00:16.340 the Arctic. Those are essential tools for getting around and machines and such. And
01:00:21.780 at the same time, is it our obligation as taxpayers, though, to keep funding these sorts
01:00:26.740 of things? I mean, we're funding a population in the deep north. And I think we've got to be
01:00:33.620 justifying why do we want them up there necessarily if it's unsustainable? Do you want to keep it as
01:00:39.100 a permanent welfare state? Do we want to constantly fund people just to sit there? I think that's
01:00:43.660 some of what people kind of keep in mind. You know, they like to envision this little zoo where
01:00:48.240 First Nations people just live in this traditional lifestyle in little areas. And, you know,
01:00:53.200 the people who promote this are usually hipsters down south who like the urban modern living.
01:00:57.580 They enjoy that. They wouldn't want to live up in that, but they want to make sure to fund and keep
01:01:02.640 other people living up in that. Look, guys, if you've gone up there, check it out. These are
01:01:08.040 houses, they aren't living in igloos anymore. Of course not. They're living in houses that are up
01:01:11.720 on stilts because of the permafrost and they rely on diesel and gas to keep themselves warm and keep
01:01:18.140 their power going. Every house has a satellite dish and they have snowmobiles. They're people
01:01:22.520 like everyone else. They want comforts and of course they should have them. So, but if you're
01:01:25.540 trying to keep this, this, this mental vision that you're keeping a little enclave of traditional
01:01:30.860 little Inuit people up in the North, it's not happening. I don't see, I mean, if there's not
01:01:36.500 enough trade and hunting, if there's not enough benefit in it for them to pay for their own
01:01:40.360 snowmobiles, maybe it's time to stop supplying them. And I'm sorry, but if you can't make it
01:01:45.840 up there, maybe it's time to move down south. How long do we want to expand the population? Or if
01:01:49.760 they really want to, I can have a much longer discussion on that. Get the McKenzie Valley
01:01:53.860 pipeline done. You know, part of what was going to happen with that pipeline, if it ever got
01:01:57.480 finished, was it was going to come with a land road following the pipeline right away, all the
01:02:02.520 way up through Yellowknife, which right now it stops at Norman Wells, and you've still got about
01:02:06.520 a 700 kilometer gap. And you have to, to get to Inuvik and Tuck, you have to drive all the way
01:02:10.900 around through Whitehorse and then over the Dempster Highway. It's a beautiful drive, by the
01:02:13.840 way, but it's a rugged one and a long one. You can cut a day off of that, go straight up McKenzie
01:02:20.260 Valley and get up to Inuvik. And the pipeline was going to provide that as well. And they were
01:02:24.220 training people up there. They got colleges up there. They were putting people to work who would
01:02:27.240 work in the energy sector up there. But then the government regulated to death. I mean, years and
01:02:31.480 years, it started with the Berger Commission in the 70s on that pipeline. Like there's another
01:02:34.660 Alberta with the oil and gas up the Mackenzie Delta. It's loads of it up there. I spent years
01:02:39.280 on the exploration up there and we can develop it. Speaking of energy security for Canada,
01:02:44.800 but the government dragged their feet so long on that pipeline and made them study so much. 0.88
01:02:49.320 We wasted billions on that thing. It wasn't canceled. It was just like Energy East.
01:02:53.960 All the proponents and companies just said, oh, you guys made it so expensive. We're out. We're
01:02:57.240 done. We're finished. They didn't spend all those billions thinking it was going to be cancelled.
01:03:01.920 They wanted to bring it in and it would be worthwhile. It sure would be a nice pipe to
01:03:05.120 have right now, wouldn't it? The price of oil and gas. But, and it was just going to be gas to start,
01:03:10.180 but they were going to move on to liquids, but it's shut down. If you want to maintain
01:03:14.100 a population in the Arctic, you have to find some industries that are worth developing.
01:03:18.980 And oil and gas is a big one of them. And a lot of the people would like to work on it. They'd
01:03:22.300 like to make a living like anybody else. What else are you going to do up there besides subsistence
01:03:27.200 living. There's very limited tourism up there. There's no logging. If you've been up the taiga
01:03:32.220 before you hit the tundra, there's no decent logging for hundreds and hundreds of miles to
01:03:37.240 get up there. Fishing is limited. You can get a bit of char and so on, but again, that gets more
01:03:41.280 into subsistence and specialty sort of things, hunting tours, a little bit of that, but you can't
01:03:45.560 sustain much of a population up there. So rather than sending snowmobiles up there, we should be
01:03:52.360 figuring out how to make them independent. And that does apply to a lot of people in isolated
01:03:57.520 reserves, even if it's below the Arctic Circle. But again, the Canadian way, now let's just keep 0.98
01:04:01.840 throwing more stuff out there. Let's see. Oh, here's another. The Senate's been having a lot
01:04:08.380 of good discussions lately. So this is another interesting one. Materials used by the renewable
01:04:11.960 energy sector are often produced by slave labor. This is the Senate Human Rights Committee. They
01:04:16.520 were told this in testimonies. Forced labor, including children used in supply chains that
01:04:22.000 produce electric car batteries and wind turbine parts. So yeah, you know, again, speaking of
01:04:26.980 greenwashing, you know, speaking of the hipsters who like their gas-fired latte, but still want
01:04:30.920 to shut down the means of producing it somewhere else. When you want to go green, you want to bring
01:04:36.300 in these electric cars. You need some heavy metals. You need a lot of items, specialized woods for
01:04:41.940 wind turbines, things like that. Well, it's making a mess in other places. You're not doing the
01:04:46.420 environment a favor and you're not doing human rights a favor. When you've got some countries
01:04:51.040 that don't have good human rights.
01:04:52.500 I mean, so this is where it's from the set of testimony.
01:04:55.400 It said, look at renewable energy supply chain issues.
01:04:57.720 You have situations like the Democratic Republic of Congo
01:04:59.780 where 35,000 children used in child labor mining cobalt,
01:05:03.380 which is used in lithium ion batteries and electric cars.
01:05:07.020 Now, let's develop more industries in Congo
01:05:10.080 and in places like that.
01:05:11.120 We want to see them prosper as well.
01:05:12.520 But at the same time,
01:05:13.200 we want to have a standard of human rights going on in there.
01:05:16.480 People don't like thinking about that.
01:05:18.120 They don't like thinking about that.
01:05:19.060 We don't want to develop Alberta oil and gas.
01:05:21.040 where we have the B.C. and Saskatchewan and the Yukon
01:05:25.120 and the Northwest Territories.
01:05:26.560 We don't want to develop that because it's bad, it's bad.
01:05:29.040 Even though we have human rights here,
01:05:31.040 we, you know, labor protections, environmental protections,
01:05:33.180 we have all those things, but apparently we're still bad.
01:05:35.800 And then we kind of put on our own blinders
01:05:37.740 to what the alternatives are,
01:05:39.880 which is things such as that going on in the Congo and stuff.
01:05:44.940 We can't just keep ignoring, you know, action, reaction.
01:05:48.440 There's not enough discussion of these things
01:05:50.500 and it's costing all of us getting more into federal issues. I'm afraid it looks like Kid
01:05:54.520 Carson isn't going to make it today. He was scheduled for some time back. Maybe he'll pop
01:05:58.560 in. I'll talk a little longer. It's too bad. I was really looking forward to speaking with him.
01:06:02.480 We'll see if we can reconnect and find out what went wrong in the communications with that.
01:06:06.580 But either way, some of this other stuff coming up, a public service commission
01:06:11.320 was told about nepotism. This is a real shocker in the federal hiring. 53%
01:06:17.020 felt that appointments depend on who you know. Now that applies to the private market in a lot
01:06:21.600 of situations as well. But I mean, it is a problem. 47% of employees agreed with the statement
01:06:28.700 appointments don't depend on who you know. So it's kind of split. There's questionnaires with
01:06:32.880 75,000 federal workers, but you got to remember if half of those federal workers got their jobs
01:06:36.820 because of nepotism in the first place, they're not going to want to point out how bad it was.
01:06:40.420 So I got a feeling that number might be a good deal higher than that. This is from Patrick
01:06:45.360 there's still areas for improvement. Yeah, you think, and the commission's going to work on it.
01:06:50.180 Either way, nepotism is supposedly a firing offense in the public service. I doubt anybody's
01:06:54.340 really been fired for it yet, though. I mean, the guy who is in charge of firing probably has a
01:06:58.640 cousin who's a member of parliament who's got a friend who's a cabinet minister. So it's probably
01:07:03.380 not going to happen. As Dave also said, yes, they're hiring consultants to check the work
01:07:08.200 of other consultants in the multi-billion dollar Phoenix pay system failure. That thing is
01:07:13.120 something else. If you really want to read a tragedy of bureaucracy, read about the Phoenix
01:07:17.280 pay system and the federal government. These guys can't even pay themselves right. That's how bad
01:07:22.140 they are. And it's funny with some of those statements, our government's really committed
01:07:25.700 to providing high quality services to Canadians. We want this to ensure the best value for
01:07:31.460 taxpayers. It's fortunate. Really? Really? You can't even get your payroll right in 20 years,
01:07:36.040 guys. I find it very difficult to believe that you're that committed to giving us quality
01:07:41.100 services for our tax dollars uh residential real estate ban that's kind of dull finance committee
01:07:51.020 all right i think it's time to move on just to talk about what we are going to do tomorrow
01:07:55.260 i'm assuming my guests are showing up tomorrow we've got uh joseph quennell actually he's from
01:07:59.340 the frontier center in public policy and he's been writing uh he writes predominantly on
01:08:03.340 indigenous issues and we're going to talk a bit about residential schools i mean it's a
01:08:06.700 a hot button area. It's definitely, you know, worthy of some more open discussion. People are
01:08:12.040 afraid of that subject. It's a sensitive one, but it's a big one. And talking to Joseph about it at
01:08:17.480 length is going to be very good and important. Somebody's saying, how about Tamara? I haven't
01:08:21.680 had a chance. I asked the newsroom to let me know if there's any ruling on her bail at this point.
01:08:27.000 And I haven't gotten any updates. So I imagine they're still dragging their feet. When we started
01:08:30.780 the show, they'd gone to recess. I mean, again, you know, it's a bail hearing. It shouldn't take
01:08:35.360 this long, but they really seem determined to keep this person locked up because she committed
01:08:40.860 the crime of encouraging mischief. Yes, this is quite. Paul Hinman, when can we get him on? I've
01:08:47.980 had Paul on a couple of times. And yeah, I'll probably get him again before the end of the
01:08:52.540 by-election up in Fort McMurray and see where things are sitting. Right now, that's still
01:08:58.500 ongoing. And yeah, it's sliding under the radar. What are we, two weeks away from election day up
01:09:03.340 there in Fort Mac in that by-election and it's put Paul's campaigning his butt off. He's been
01:09:07.760 there for a couple of months on it. And I think there's like eight other candidates in it, but
01:09:11.200 realistically, I think it's the only ones to watch are going to be the UCP, of course, the NDP and
01:09:16.560 Paul Hinman. The rest are typically just the usual also-rans, but we'll see. We'll see. I don't
01:09:22.660 dismiss everybody. I've been in also-ran in elections myself. Carmen, yeah, they brought
01:09:28.500 her in with shackles. You know, that was how insane it is. The judge did say take the shackles 1.00
01:09:32.280 off. We're talking about Tamara Leach again, by the way, with her bail hearing. So as soon as I
01:09:36.080 get any sort of news on it, though, I'll certainly pass it on to you. Also, after that, I'm going to
01:09:39.760 talk to Alex McCall on Canada's response to the Ukraine-Russia war. He wrote a column in the
01:09:44.380 Western Standard about that and broke down some of the arms we can send them, things like that.
01:09:49.900 He's our military writer. This is his specialty, and he knows a lot more on those issues than I.
01:09:53.800 So we'll be able to discuss a little bit of what did Canada just send them? We sent some anti-tank
01:09:57.460 things and, uh, I believe some night vision gear and what else could we do or should we do? It'll 0.99
01:10:02.820 be a good chat with that chat with Alex. So in closing, just remember to take out a subscription
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01:10:18.260 them know who sent you there. And that helps me out of course, as well. So either way, I'm going
01:10:24.180 to let you guys go and we'll see if we can't track down Kid Carson and find out what happened
01:10:28.240 there with the miscommunication or something like that. Maybe it's a time zone issue. These things
01:10:31.880 happen on live shows. Thank you all for tuning in today. We got a good show coming tomorrow
01:10:36.380 and I will see you then at 1130.
01:10:54.180 We'll be right back.