Western Standard - LIVE： Triggered with Cory - Canada needs to open up!

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00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's February 8th, 2022. Welcome to today's episode of Triggered. I'm Corey

00:00:40.780 Morgan, the guy who's always triggered around here. This show comes live every day from the

00:00:45.800 Western Standard at 1130 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday to Friday, typically till about

00:00:51.420 one o'clock. Depends on how many guests and how many news and issues are breaking, which

00:00:55.000 you're constantly breaking these days. It's been tough keeping up. Comments, bring them on. It's

00:01:02.600 one of the great things about being live. I like seeing them and hearing them. I don't necessarily

00:01:06.380 read them all out, but they're good. You know, talk with each other, pose questions to the guests.

00:01:13.720 I'll try to get them to them if I can. If not, you know, they often see them. Again, just trying

00:01:17.560 to keep it civil though. We can get a little heated. We can get a little triggered, but we

00:01:21.000 don't have to be rude with each other. We're most, for the most part, good conservative people,

00:01:25.740 and we can respect each other, even if we don't always agree. I got a couple of guests coming up

00:01:30.980 today, Clinton DeVoe. He's been on semi-regularly. I know he gets some of the commenters wound up,

00:01:37.020 but I like it because he comes out from Halifax and he gives a different perspective. I mean,

00:01:41.640 we're always at risk of getting into an echo chamber and Clinton's a bit more of a red Tory,

00:01:45.540 but he follows the federal politics very closely. We've got a leadership race going on with them

00:01:50.720 right now that's getting kind of, well, almost overwhelmed by the news with COVID and the

00:01:56.880 protests and everything else. So we still got to keep discussing the other issues that are going

00:01:59.820 on. Rosemary asked about something happening in Calgary this morning. I'm not sure. It sounds like

00:02:05.600 Art Pawlowski got arrested again, but that kind of happens all the time. Any other stories we'll

00:02:10.600 come up with and we'll break as they come. My following guest will be Mark Milkey. He's with,

00:02:15.440 he was with the Fraser Institute. He's an author. He's written a number of books and he's going to

00:02:19.800 talk about a column he put out on how woke activists are trying to rewrite history and they

00:02:24.460 are and he's documented it very well it's going to be a really good conversation i see uh willie

00:02:29.940 coming in from minnesota well welcome willie and hi mike and all the rest of you guys popping in

00:02:34.500 it's great to see the viewers and see them interact and be active like that i don't want

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00:03:50.540 Now, getting on to what's got me triggered today.

00:03:53.940 You know what?

00:03:54.200 We've got these protests springing up around the country.

00:03:56.400 They're pressuring local economies and law enforcement officials.

00:03:59.380 And the federal government's as intractable and stubborn as ever.

00:04:03.060 I mean, not only would Trudeau not even consider a dialogue with protesters,

00:04:06.020 he's going out of his way to insult and dehumanize them.

00:04:09.620 This is irresponsible, dangerous leadership and is causing the pressure to rise.

00:04:14.620 Canada is lagging behind most of the world when it comes to COVID-19 restrictions.

00:04:19.620 While nations around the world are opening up, Trudeau won't even admit that it's time to make a plan to open up.

00:04:24.620 This has got to change.

00:04:26.620 Europe just recorded its highest ever rate of new COVID-19 cases in one week.

00:04:30.620 Yet the director of the World Health Organization declared Europe was entering into a period of, as he said, long period of tranquility.

00:04:37.620 They're acknowledging the reality that COVID-19 is endemic.

00:04:41.660 It's going to keep with us.

00:04:42.960 It's going to be with us.

00:04:43.740 And we have to allow life to continue and work around it.

00:04:47.940 Medical experts are increasingly coming out and admitting restrictions and lockdowns aren't stopping the spread of the pandemic.

00:04:52.920 Or they're causing terrific social and economic damage to citizens.

00:04:57.060 Now, as nations by nation, we watch them dropping local and travel restrictions.

00:05:01.220 Canada continues on its campaign of harassment of travelers.

00:05:04.600 WestJet, they're begging for restriction relief as they're forced to cancel thousands of flights.

00:05:09.560 I mean, you've got to get tested when you take off and tested when you land. 1.00

00:05:12.180 How stupid is this? 1.00

00:05:13.540 But welcome to Canada, right? 1.00

00:05:15.040 But people aren't coming.

00:05:15.880 That's the problem.

00:05:16.980 Downstream, the tourist sector, they're just getting hammered as international tourists stay out of Canada.

00:05:22.140 We rely on this.

00:05:22.980 They can't take a third year of this.

00:05:25.440 They're going to go bankrupt.

00:05:26.620 I grew up in Banff.

00:05:27.260 I know how reliant we are on getting those American tourists.

00:05:31.100 I recently returned from a road trip to Arizona.

00:05:33.960 Testing is so backed up, Jane and I's results never arrived in time for our return.

00:05:38.880 Tests are only valid for 72 hours, but the results from American pharmacies are taken up to a week.

00:05:43.940 Well, in other words, it's impossible.

00:05:46.120 That just would be having something shoved up my nose for no purpose whatsoever.

00:05:50.080 It was very unpleasant.

00:05:50.880 So that led to us having to run the gauntlet at the border, and we were ordered to quarantine for an extended period.

00:05:56.380 No, ordered at least. Come get me.

00:05:58.680 None of these ridiculous, expensive, intrusive, and time-consuming travel requirements are going to do a single damn thing to hinder the spread of COVID-19.

00:06:06.960 We've established that. So why the hell are we still doing it?

00:06:10.240 Truckers have been crossing the Canada-USA border for the last two years, and it hasn't been causing harm to people.

00:06:15.740 It hasn't been a super spreader event or anything like that.

00:06:18.900 The protests we see today were triggered by the useless and ridiculous imposition of vaccine requirements upon these truckers.

00:06:25.760 The federal government has to swallow some pride and back off on these ongoing travel restrictions and mandates.

00:06:30.960 At the very least, they need to release a plan for reopening.

00:06:34.200 Otherwise, the pressure from these protests is just going to build.

00:06:37.620 If there's no out, if there's no vent, if there's no exit, the pressure rises.

00:06:41.540 And that's when things can get dangerous and bad.

00:06:43.900 They're not going away. They're not stopping.

00:06:46.200 Even if the Ottawa police manage to pull off the monumental task of removing protesters from Parliament Hill,

00:06:52.120 We've already seen that the protests are simply going to pop up elsewhere in the country,

00:06:55.080 like the one that closed the border near Windsor yesterday,

00:06:57.920 and of course the ongoing one down on the Alberta border.

00:07:00.560 And we have them rolling through cities all over the place,

00:07:02.680 from Vancouver to Winnipeg, you name it, it's happening.

00:07:05.480 Even Okotoks had one in Alberta, a smaller town.

00:07:08.960 Millions of dollars are being raised by hundreds of thousands of Canadians

00:07:12.200 in support of these protests, and now through multiple means.

00:07:15.460 They won't be going away, and they're not going to be stopped.

00:07:17.660 As long as there's no timeline for reopening and no dialogue with the protesters, the government is appearing as the thugs in this ongoing story.

00:07:27.180 Abacus Data just released a poll indicating that 56% of Canadians think Trudeau's doing a piss-poor job of handling the protests.

00:07:34.140 That number's going to keep growing as Trudeau refuses to compromise.

00:07:37.740 I mean, you've got to remember, I don't like government by polling, but the vast majority of Canadians were always in these polls in favor of lockdowns and such.

00:07:44.740 but even a majority, albeit slim, it's going to be growing. I said, Trudeau, you've got to do

00:07:48.820 better than this. This isn't working. This is not good leadership. Provincially, we're a little

00:07:53.200 better. Premier Scott Moe, to his credit, said he's going to be lifting local restrictions and

00:07:58.220 they're coming up on Sunday night. That's all there is to it. It was good. It was good to see

00:08:01.760 some backbone. It should be yesterday, it should be tomorrow, or right now, but either way, take what

00:08:06.400 we can get. Most provinces are moving agonizingly slowly towards dropping their pointless mandates,

00:08:11.020 however. Premier Jason Kenney is facing a caucus revolt as he obfuscates hints and defers action

00:08:16.540 on lifting restrictions. In a conference to be held tonight, Kenney's expected to announce a plan

00:08:22.100 to lift restrictions in Alberta. I hope it's not more talk, but we've seen where he went with the

00:08:26.740 fair deal panel in Alberta. Nothing has happened yet. So we're at a point with him. I'll believe

00:08:31.740 it when I see it. I mean, it likely won't be enough for most people, no matter what the plan

00:08:35.440 is, but I'd like to see one. And you got to remember, Kenney said he would never implement

00:08:40.160 vaccine passports. He did it. So now he has to act. He can't just talk. People don't believe 1.00

00:08:44.000 him anymore. That's part of why his support is in the toilet. The mandates and restrictions,

00:08:49.160 they're not about health anymore. It's about politics and control. And the damage being done

00:08:55.000 is unforgivable as politicians play policy chess against each other with the lives of citizens.

00:09:00.420 And they're being aided and abetted by a rotten legacy media establishment. We're in a pressure

00:09:05.520 cooker now. If we don't see some release, there's going to be an explosion. It's time to quit

00:09:10.440 messing around and start lifting these mandates. These protests will only continue to grow as long

00:09:16.120 as the government refuses to even consider giving ground. The mess lands in the laps of Canada's

00:09:20.660 political establishment. It's their ball now, and they've got to act, and they've got to act soon.

00:09:26.940 All right, that's what's got me triggered today. Probably have me triggered tomorrow,

00:09:31.340 but I'll find something new to go on about as well.

00:09:33.700 Let's bring in Dave Naylor, our news editor,

00:09:36.420 to see what else is topping the news scroll here in Canada and Alberta.

00:09:41.080 How's it going, Dave?

00:09:42.320 Morning, Corey.

00:09:43.580 Hey, if you've got any connection with the news gods,

00:09:46.340 can you tell them to maybe slow it down a bit?

00:09:49.040 Yeah, it's keeping us scrambling, that's for sure.

00:09:52.420 Boy, you guys are just hammering away back in there on those keyboards.

00:09:55.840 Yes, my fingers are bleeding,

00:09:57.160 But leading off our website right now, Corey, is a story you hinted at about Arthur Pawlowski, who's been in jail more times than I can count on one hand.

00:10:10.500 He was arrested again for some sort of actions that he took down at the Coote border crossing last week.

00:10:18.540 It's unclear what the charges are going to be,

00:10:21.500 but we do have video of his arrest up on the site now by Calgary police,

00:10:28.260 who then transferred him into the hands of the RCMP.

00:10:31.860 So they're now dealing with Pawlowski.

00:10:35.480 Speaking of good videos to watch,

00:10:37.440 we've got a great one from our senior BC reporter, Reid Small.

00:10:43.060 There was a freedom rally at the weekend in Vancouver,

00:10:45.840 And we've got a video of a gentleman keying a car that was in the protest convoy.

00:10:52.480 He stood in front of the car wearing his face mask and keyed the car.

00:10:57.520 But as he was walking away, he dropped his identification.

00:11:00.940 So clearly not the brightest bulb in the drawer.

00:11:04.500 And that's a good video to send our viewers to look at.

00:11:10.160 Big news out of Saskatchewan this morning.

00:11:12.520 They have dropped the vaccine mandate requirement.

00:11:15.840 as of uh 1201 monday morning that's no longer needed so they become the first uh province in

00:11:22.720 canada to to drop the vaccine mandate uh they still will have mask forced masking at least

00:11:29.760 until the end of february but no more having to show a qr card if you want to go for a beer

00:11:35.840 uh truckers truckers truckers again uh the coots border was was shut last night for a good portion

00:11:44.640 of the night was reopened again this morning uh to uh to single lane traffic each way uh tensions

00:11:51.360 are rising uh there everybody's uh fed up with that uh in the house of commons last night during

00:11:58.640 an emergency debate uh trudeau stood up called all the truckers uh nasty names uh didn't really

00:12:05.680 offer anything new interestingly though cory this morning uh um quebec liberal mp by the name of

00:12:13.440 Joel Lighthound hailed a press conference and he blasted his own government for their pandemic

00:12:19.100 response actions. And there's some very interesting quotes that he's got in the story. I guess the

00:12:28.680 question is, how long will he last in the Liberal caucus before Trudeau kicks him out? There's also

00:12:36.400 a big argument going on in the newsroom this morning that whether or not he's a cute MP,

00:12:40.300 Would he win the hottest MP of the year?

00:12:43.040 So we'll let the readers decide on that one.

00:12:46.720 What else do we got?

00:12:49.940 Non-trucker related, we've got Canada's foremost gasoline expert, Dan McTeague,

00:12:56.960 testifying in the Commons that the Liberals should scrap their plans

00:13:02.220 to increase the upcoming carbon tax hike on April 1st.

00:13:07.580 And he'd also like to see home energy rebates given to Canadians just to try and help deal with the soaring cost of inflation that is crippling everybody.

00:13:19.180 And our friends at the CTF, we're all sitting here waiting, especially those in Vancouver, waiting for the Liberals to come in and tax your home equity.

00:13:28.400 So the CTF's sort of laid out a plan of attack on how they're going to try and stop that.

00:13:34.040 So our reporter, Eva, has got that story all up.

00:13:39.560 So I think that's about it.

00:13:41.700 Corey, obviously, the big one this afternoon, Jason Kenney,

00:13:46.160 not wanting reporters to be able to go home on time,

00:13:49.760 scheduled a 5 o'clock press conference to announce his plan.

00:13:53.440 But certainly the relaxation of Saskatchewan with a fixed date

00:13:59.960 is going to increase the pressure on Kenney to do something similar.

00:14:04.040 Yeah, I mean, it's funny, as I was saying a bit in my rant, so much of this is now, I think, political pride.

00:14:10.100 It's points of which it's outside pressure.

00:14:11.980 They always want to make it look like it was their own decision and that nothing, whether it was a neighboring premier or protests or anything, were what encouraged it.

00:14:19.020 I just hope that they get some good speechwriters to come up with lines to save face and at least they'll move.

00:14:23.600 Yeah, I mean, you've got, I think the problem is you've got doctors and nurses and teachers saying, no, no, no, it's too early to relax the restrictions.

00:14:35.680 And you've got the general public saying, we've had enough, we've suffered through this for two years now, enough's enough.

00:14:41.680 So, you know, and the next step is when Kenny does make the changes, whether or not cities like Edmonton and Calgary will follow along.

00:14:50.820 There is a chance that Kenny could drop vaccine mandates, but the city still require them.

00:14:57.140 All I can say is good luck enforcing that one.

00:15:00.200 Yeah, there's still a lot of battles to come.

00:15:02.900 As you said, it's keeping you guys running like crazy.

00:15:05.760 I'll leave you to your discussions on who Canada's cutest MP might be.

00:15:10.600 I would hope that Liberal supporters realize, though, they voted for the pretty guy with the nice hair last time.

00:15:15.540 And look how that well ended for all of us.

00:15:17.720 So maybe they should look a little deeper next time.

00:15:20.040 Good point, Corey.

00:15:21.940 All right. Thanks, Dave. I'll talk to you a little later.

00:15:24.580 Take care.

00:15:26.280 So, yeah, as Dave pointed out in Cootes, it's been back and forth last night, late at night.

00:15:32.100 They temporarily blocked the border again, and then they opened it.

00:15:37.160 There's a confusion with the reports on that.

00:15:39.940 We had James down there. James has finally returned.

00:15:41.940 He spent a long time down there reporting live for us and talking with a lot of them.

00:15:46.200 And there's different points of view on how they should be protesting, you know, whether they should allow any traffic, whether they should stop it at all.

00:15:54.540 It sounds like some of that back and forth is still going on.

00:15:57.480 Something else that had been happening, though, it wasn't just the protesters blocking it.

00:16:00.740 You see, at times the RCMP are fully blocking the road because they're trying to stop other demonstrators from joining those down near the border.

00:16:07.880 So sometimes it's the RCMP that are actually stopping the traffic from coming and going.

00:16:11.740 But it is an ongoing situation.

00:16:14.700 As you can see from that headline, it's frustrations growing.

00:16:17.840 I think it's a bit with everybody.

00:16:19.920 And a lot of what that discussion has been is it's been some mixed messaging coming from the government.

00:16:24.800 There have been rural MLAs who have been talking to protesters down at the border.

00:16:28.580 They've been talking one-on-one.

00:16:30.260 We've had a number of them talking with us.

00:16:32.740 Jason Steffen put a column up here with the Western Standard at westernstandardonline.com,

00:16:37.200 where you'll see, by the way, Dave's story and Eva's and Mel's and all that good stuff there,

00:16:41.280 where he was saying, you know, again, that we've made some mistakes

00:16:44.320 and we've got to back off on these restrictions.

00:16:46.120 So as much as Premier Kenney seems to be trying to go as slowly

00:16:49.920 as humanly possible in reopening, everything's just happening around him.

00:16:54.440 So we'll see if he manages to gain control on that tonight.

00:16:58.000 And a lot of the issue with the border blockade

00:17:00.020 and a lot of what James reported, though, is it's mistrust.

00:17:02.680 You know, they're talking to MLAs,

00:17:04.860 but they're getting a different story from the Premier.

00:17:07.220 And when they're told, just hang on, cool your jets a bit, we're going to open up soon.

00:17:12.300 A lot of them just don't believe it.

00:17:14.080 So it keeps going.

00:17:16.220 They close, they reopening.

00:17:17.380 But the bottom line is, and it's back to what I was talking about earlier, until we see some progress, until we see some restrictions lifting, not more talk, not more kick in the can down the road, the pressure is going to rise.

00:17:28.960 The frustration is going to rise.

00:17:30.620 The protests are going to continue.

00:17:32.540 They are not going away.

00:17:34.460 And, you know, back to, I'm going to talk a little bit about the money.

00:17:37.060 I kept doing those refreshes last week as we were watching the GoFundMe page rising incredibly

00:17:43.580 in support of the Truckers for Freedom Convoy. And now it's moved on because, of course,

00:17:49.500 that got shut down and people got refunded. So they just took their money and they increased it

00:17:53.520 and they went to this Give, Send, Go site. So just before the show, I checked it and Give,

00:17:57.900 Send, Go had a total of, and they only started this like four days ago, $6,400,000 American

00:18:04.640 dollars were raised so far. I'm going to give it a refresh, you know, so about in a half hour,

00:18:08.960 let's see. Okay. In a half hour, it went up almost $50,000 American. Like people are supporting

00:18:17.260 these protests. They're doing it with their wallets. Not everybody's getting out in person

00:18:20.900 on the streets, but they're, they're supporting with their wallets. And there's a big Bitcoin

00:18:25.580 fund out there. You'd have to search it out. You know, I was talking earlier about our sponsor

00:18:28.320 Bitcoin. Well, cause again, that takes it right out of the hands of the government. They can't

00:18:33.600 get at it. And you're trying to, you know, you're trying to stop water from going through a

00:18:38.680 strainer, guys. Every protest you stop is just going to cause another one to spring up. You're

00:18:42.760 playing whack-a-mole. So we've got to get reasonable. We've got to start talking about

00:18:47.980 compromise. We've got to lead to an end of this. We're all sick as hell of it. And government

00:18:54.360 games are making the rest of us sick as hell of it. So let's get some real discourse and dialogue

00:18:59.960 going on these things. You know, the pressure is going on in Ottawa. We're watching that,

00:19:04.760 of course, closely. Police officers have been back and forth. They're saying they're short

00:19:08.720 of resources and not able to keep up, but they have been trying to stop supplies. Now bathroom

00:19:14.320 facilities has come up, I guess. That was reported on the Western Standard as well.

00:19:18.800 They don't have anywhere to go to the washroom. There's only so many porta-potties in the area.

00:19:23.260 And you know, this is a real thing. This is a bit of a siege. They're trying to do whatever they can

00:19:27.320 to make the protesters uncomfortable to get them to go out

00:19:31.640 because they can't bring them out by force.

00:19:33.380 There's too many of them.

00:19:34.340 It would be too dangerous.

00:19:35.160 It'd be too hard.

00:19:35.900 So they're hoping if they can cut off their fuel,

00:19:37.480 cut off their food,

00:19:38.380 and then possibly even make it a stinking mess there

00:19:41.860 with the lack of bathrooms,

00:19:43.440 that they might make the protesters give up.

00:19:45.880 I don't see much indication

00:19:46.960 they're really ready to give up lightly.

00:19:49.560 It does bring to mind an old South Park episode.

00:19:51.960 I think they were protesting against Fox or something.

00:19:53.940 I can't remember.

00:19:54.480 They were catapulting the protesters

00:19:56.400 and splattering them into the building

00:19:57.900 over and over again in protest.

00:19:59.740 It was really, you know,

00:20:00.380 good old classic South Park

00:20:01.600 and it was bizarre.

00:20:02.900 But how they actually won

00:20:03.780 was because they only had one,

00:20:05.000 everybody there was sick

00:20:06.200 and they had gastric difficulties

00:20:08.040 and there was only one port-a-potty

00:20:09.100 that was overflowing

00:20:09.760 and it brought the building to its knees.

00:20:13.820 Funny stuff.

00:20:14.480 I love South Park.

00:20:15.320 I grew up with it.

00:20:16.300 For those who weren't into it,

00:20:17.280 well, so be it.

00:20:17.960 But it was an episode

00:20:18.940 that actually kind of,

00:20:20.120 I could tie into this

00:20:21.220 and I thought it was kind of funny.

00:20:22.000 I see Clinton in the lobby.

00:20:22.900 I'm going to get to him pretty quickly.

00:20:24.480 Before I do,

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00:21:44.720 they're helping us through sponsorship. So they're a good group. Okay, let's get on to where we were

00:21:49.340 with Clinton DeVoe. He's been on the show before. We're going to start talking about the federal

00:21:53.540 leadership race for the Conservative Party of Canada. So he should be. There we go. Hey,

00:21:59.120 Clinton, how's it going out there in Halifax? Good. Pleasure to be here. Looking forward to

00:22:03.280 chatting with you and hearing from your audience members in the coming days.

00:22:07.760 Great. So, yeah, I mean, you're a very close, you know, watcher of federal issues. That's your

00:22:12.100 thing. You like digging in on that and the intrigue. And of course, a leadership race is like your

00:22:17.900 Super Bowl. So, I mean, that came about suddenly. I mean, we really saw, you know, the cracks were

00:22:24.160 showing. There was definitely a lot of discontent in the Conservative caucus under O'Toole. But I

00:22:29.120 even I was sort of floored by how quick and decisively that happened when the vote finally

00:22:33.680 came. I mean, it was bang. It was a majority. And they said, get on out of here. Yeah, that's right.

00:22:40.640 So, look, the party had been talking about these very issues in private circles and online ever since the federal election ended when there really wasn't any growth for the conservatives.

00:22:56.840 And they actually finished with slightly fewer members of parliament and a slightly smaller percentage of vote than they did in 2019 under Mr. Scheer, Andrew Scheer.

00:23:10.460 So, yeah, so obviously the parties, you know, it has a bit of a struggle ahead.

00:23:14.640 It's in the process of choosing its fourth leader of the last seven years.

00:23:21.840 So, you know, it needs to figure out, A, you know, how is it going to win an election?

00:23:27.540 And I guess, B, is it interested in winning an election or is it content to remain like an advocacy group that's content to remain in opposition?

00:23:37.100 uh and i think that is really going to be the questions that are going to come about from this

00:23:42.860 leadership race well so at this point with people who've come forward i mean pierre poly have sprung

00:23:50.040 right out of the gates he was obviously ready to go i'm certain he was just uh you know waiting for

00:23:54.420 when the time would come and the leadership was open and there there he was uh there's a lot of

00:23:58.500 names being kicked around but i'm not seeing too many rushing out yet i i saw one that was

00:24:02.820 interesting yesterday Tasha Carradine uh was uh clearly kicking tires on Twitter anyways and just

00:24:09.240 saying you know that kind of sort of I'm thinking about it I'll tell you within a day or two that

00:24:14.180 that's political speak for saying let's see if anybody's going to offer some donations and if

00:24:18.040 I've got a base and and if there isn't one then I can kind of back out with some pride but if there

00:24:22.200 is she's clearly interested in going for it yeah so Tasha Carradine is somebody that I've known

00:24:27.360 uh since the late uh 1990s and uh you know we've continued to talk um you know from time to time

00:24:36.420 and i have talked to her uh in recent days uh i do think uh without you know uh choosing her as

00:24:44.800 you know a favorite or anything like that i do think that if she were to win the leadership of

00:24:49.780 the conservative party um that there would be a lot of positive signs from that i mean obviously

00:24:55.780 the first and most obvious one is that here is a strong independent conservative woman

00:25:00.860 that's been involved you know at the federal and the provincial scene at different levels across 0.65

00:25:07.940 the country now for some 30 years so Tasha obviously would bring a lot to the to the the

00:25:13.500 party she's a policy wonk she has a lot of media experience so she knows how to handle that side

00:25:21.000 of it uh to your earlier point uh yes Pierre Polyev for those of you who don't know is the

00:25:27.180 first official candidate in the race uh clearly he's the front runner because there are no other

00:25:32.700 candidates in the race at the moment um you know and so Pierre has chosen to uh you know he was

00:25:40.900 always known as like sort of a fiscal conservative sort of guy uh but in recent weeks and I don't

00:25:47.700 to get too sidetracked on the trucker convoy stuff but uh he seems to have kind of embraced a bit of

00:25:53.700 that um kind of american style populism you know like that sort of is kind of connected in some

00:26:00.900 ways with with the trucker convoy um you know and then there's some other interesting names

00:26:06.580 obviously we're hearing bandied about you know besides tasha keratin uh jean chaday uh former

00:26:12.500 leader of the party is uh expressing uh a real serious look at uh at jumping in this race

00:26:21.860 uh i actually uh i personally know a number of individuals that uh that have heard from mr charret

00:26:28.900 um you know i've heard talk about former british columbia premier uh christy clark uh jumping in

00:26:35.940 again another uh interesting woman with a with a track record of winning elections

00:26:41.240 So that's interesting as well.

00:26:44.480 Former or current mayor of Brampton, Ontario, Patrick Brown, you know, former member of

00:26:53.260 parliament, former Ontario Tory leader, known for his organizational abilities.

00:26:58.600 And I know we've talked about Quebec's Bill 21 in the past.

00:27:02.960 You know, he's been really fighting for religious freedom and, you know, creating what they

00:27:09.220 call a national municipal consensus against quebec's bill 21 um you know peter mckay is

00:27:17.060 obviously another name that um would obviously have a lot of support i think there's a lot of

00:27:23.780 conservatives across the country that maybe look back on peter and think that perhaps he would have

00:27:29.700 been a better choice with hindsight over aaron o'toole um you know there's no doubt that peter

00:27:35.760 is great with with a soundbite, you know, very good on his feet. The problem that Peter has is

00:27:42.580 that he could most likely win a federal election. The question then becomes, how do you actually

00:27:48.260 win the leadership of a party? You know, Leslie Lewis, you know, there's an interesting voice

00:27:55.360 who's publicly spoken out, you know, against vaccine mandates, has compared

00:28:02.260 the covid-19 vaccine death rates with polio vaccine death rates and these kinds of things

00:28:11.440 so less than lewis is somebody that would obviously appeal to a lot of the social

00:28:15.940 conservative vote um you know someone from your backyard uh michelle rempel garner from alberta

00:28:22.800 a very well-known member of parliament a strong independent voice a good performer in the house

00:28:28.460 of commons, you know, really has her eye on a lot of those kind of suburban urban issues. 0.85

00:28:35.380 She could bring a lot to a leadership race. And then I have two other names.

00:28:43.040 And that would be Caroline Mulroney. She's the Minister of Transportation in the Doug Ford

00:28:48.980 government in Ontario. She seems to have developed a real profile, you know, over the last 18 months,

00:28:57.280 really like Michelle Rempel-Garner really follows and understands the transportation issues in the

00:29:03.280 cities and the suburbs and lastly the name that keeps popping up as well over multiple years is

00:29:12.100 former New Brunswick Premier Bernard Lord a successful conservative premier in New Brunswick

00:29:18.840 who had served multiple terms went off to the private sector developed a really successful

00:29:24.960 private sector career and um you know there's obviously people calling out for bernard lord

00:29:31.020 so there's a lot of interesting voices and quite frankly i would not rule out

00:29:34.640 uh the possibility of former prime minister stephen harper uh jumping back in the race um

00:29:41.460 you know he's a guy that i think probably takes the 2015 loss on a personal level and uh i do

00:29:50.620 believe that if Mr. Harper were to run again again this is not an endorsement just a recognition

00:29:56.040 I do think if Mr. Harper ran for the leadership that he would be the instant front runner

00:30:01.260 and I also believe that in all likelihood he could most likely defeat Prime Minister Trudeau

00:30:08.640 so there's just a few of my thoughts and I'll I'll be quiet and let you ask some questions

00:30:13.520 sure I mean I'll go through some of the comments and things too because

00:30:17.140 Again, we've got one outstanding, I mean, an interesting comment, you know, in divided households, which is good from Katie Swan saying her husband likes Pierre Polyev, but she doesn't trust him and she wants to see government cleaned out.

00:30:28.780 And there's something a lot of people, I think, you know, all of the names almost, and that's natural, are people, of course, with a lot of political background and people kind of sour on politicians these days.

00:30:38.460 But the reality is, too, if you're coming from outside, you have to have some profile somewhere or you just won't be able to win that support to take the leadership.

00:30:45.640 As I said, there's two races going on.

00:30:47.140 The first one will be the leadership and the next one is a general election.

00:30:50.780 Yeah.

00:30:51.360 And just to that point, Corey, it's not just about political baggage, but it's also important

00:30:57.500 to have some understanding of kind of how the levers of government work and, you know,

00:31:03.240 how the process works of passing legislation and, you know, performances in the House of

00:31:09.380 Commons and, you know, the work that committees do and that kind of thing.

00:31:13.000 So there is a reason why often people who have some kind of political past are often viewed as potential leadership candidates.

00:31:25.600 Sorry, go ahead.

00:31:27.020 Oh, that's all right.

00:31:27.640 Yeah, I mean, it's just it's a big election.

00:31:29.900 And I think there's more appetite for change.

00:31:33.240 Like, I have to believe that after this long, though, no matter who comes in, Justin Trudeau, particularly if he is still the leader of the Liberal Party when the next election comes, is going to be vulnerable, if only just because people are sick of him.

00:31:46.400 You know, they're getting tired.

00:31:47.440 Like, this race, I think, is going to be very hotly contested because most leaders do feel or contenders that they're going to be the next prime minister.

00:31:56.480 But there's that challenge.

00:31:57.820 And I know with your thoughts with Polly, for example, he's doing the populism.

00:32:01.820 I mean, you feel that that might not win the election, whereas it might win the leadership.

00:32:06.540 But again, Harper won the election on populism in the past as well.

00:32:10.260 It can be done, but it's not easy.

00:32:13.000 I'm not in any way discounting Pauliev's ability to win an election.

00:32:18.740 I'm just saying that the path that he's using in regards to the leadership or for this leadership race appears to be kind of embracing.

00:32:29.960 uh kind of a populist band i'm not saying that's good or bad oh yeah um you know bringing donuts

00:32:36.580 and muffins and things like that out uh to members of the trucker convoy you know that's very much a

00:32:42.860 populist uh kind of political move right so yeah that's all i'm i'm pointing out there um so getting

00:32:51.340 a have you looked much into the nuts and bolts like are the rules going to be the same uh the

00:32:55.400 last time as the last time around like something that happened the last time that does change how

00:32:59.040 people campaign as well uh is there weighted ballots you know riding by riding is that going

00:33:04.500 to be applied again which does force you know candidates you can't win it with just 100 000

00:33:08.760 supporters in alberta you have to get across this country and pick up support uh to some degree all

00:33:13.980 over the place if you're going to win yeah well you know that's the important so there's a couple

00:33:18.220 of important things for this leadership race so the first one is that uh just to answer your

00:33:23.620 specific questions so no the party's not made any decisions but there are meetings of its national

00:33:30.420 council uh and over the coming days uh they will be putting together what's called leoc which is a

00:33:37.300 basically a fancy way of saying a leadership uh committee uh so they'll be making decisions as to

00:33:44.740 how long the leadership race will be uh they will make decisions as to uh you know who can join the

00:33:52.240 party and who can't and who can vote and all of those kinds of things. And, you know, they'll make

00:33:57.120 decisions as to, you know, how many debates there will be, where the debate locations will be,

00:34:03.760 how that whole process works. What I will say is that there is a lot of behind the scenes

00:34:11.200 pushes and like pushing and tugging on that in both directions. So, you know, there are

00:34:19.280 individuals that would prefer a shorter leadership race uh in order to immediately uh choose or to

00:34:27.460 immediately have a new leader of the party right and then there are other folks that are arguing

00:34:32.340 for a longer leadership race because that will give an opportunity for more individuals to jump

00:34:38.140 in it will allow for a real um you know intellectual debate of you know of the party you know where

00:34:47.100 it's going what it wants to accomplish you know why it exists those kinds of things um

00:34:53.680 and you know to your earlier point about uh whether or not justin trudeau is able to be

00:35:00.240 defeated i mean i do think he's able to be defeated and in some ways um and this is not

00:35:06.440 going to be very popular but i think in some ways the members of the conservative party are in fact

00:35:12.480 to blame, uh, for prime minister Trudeau. And the reason I say this is because, uh, we have a prime

00:35:22.880 minister that was photographed in blackface on multiple occasions and the leader that the party

00:35:29.800 chose, uh, Mr. Shear, uh, instead of really going after the prime minister on blackface, uh, he was,

00:35:38.640 busy defending his positions on gay marriage and abortion. And so he basically took himself

00:35:47.260 out of the 2019 election. And I do think that any other conservative leader that would have

00:35:54.340 been better prepared, quicker on their feet, would have been able to have beaten Mr. Trudeau.

00:36:01.640 As far as Mr. O'Toole goes, again, I think we have to ask ourselves as Canadians, what did the Conservative Party do in its last leadership race that they had a possible prime minister who throughout the entire election campaign was taking three or four different positions on firearms,

00:36:26.640 was taking multiple positions on vaccines and vaccine mandates.

00:36:35.960 And so that goes back to the earlier point,

00:36:40.520 and that is, is this a party which wants to win elections and be electable,

00:36:47.160 or is it a party that is content to be an advocacy group

00:36:51.500 and content to remain in opposition purely on matters of principle?

00:36:56.640 And so I think that is the juggling act for whoever the next leader is, you know, and how this leadership race will unfold.

00:37:05.280 You know, will there be leadership candidates who tell the base what the base want to hear and then run a national election campaign on those things?

00:37:17.160 or will the next leader potential leader say to the base this this policy position may not be

00:37:26.700 popular or this might not be popular but this is what's required in order to win government

00:37:32.000 so that we can affect change so i do think that uh you know that conservative party members have

00:37:40.240 to make sure that they don't repeat the mistakes that occurred in 2019, in the 2019 federal election

00:37:49.140 and the most recent election here in 2021. Okay, well, we're up against the clock, Clinton.

00:37:56.300 So yeah, the conservatives have a whole lot to try and sort out and figure out in a little bit

00:38:01.920 of time. It's going to be a very interesting race to watch it unfold and develop. We're just,

00:38:05.940 of course right in the first week of it right now so there's there's going to be a lot to watch and

00:38:10.580 take uh uh keep an eye on so where can people see what you're writing on and what you're up to

00:38:15.620 clinton before you go here sure uh well they can find me on twitter so it's at clinton devoe

00:38:20.580 uh my hashtag and uh i'm always sharing uh stories throwing the odd comments out there

00:38:27.460 uh video content just you know things that interest me and uh anytime i come across some

00:38:33.840 political gossip, I'm more than happy to share it on my Twitter page as you're more than well aware

00:38:39.020 of. All right. Well, thanks for coming in to join us today, Clinton. We'll be keeping an eye on

00:38:44.180 things with you as they develop. Great. Thank you very much, Corey. Looking forward to hearing from

00:38:48.880 your listeners and viewers in the coming days. Great. Thanks. Okay. So that was Clinton DeVoe

00:38:54.700 from Halifax. And again, I do want to get as many perspectives as possible as this race develops.

00:39:00.480 I think it's going to be a very important one. Andrew Scheer, I think if anything was a placeholder position, it's a dangerous one to be the first one to take the leadership after a party has lost a race. O'Toole, again, yes, I think, you know, Clinton kind of covered that too. When you get positions that change all the time, it's hard on trust, whether you agree or disagree left, right, center, you got to be consistent. And we didn't have any consistency out of O'Toole. And I think it costs him support across the spectrum.

00:39:29.400 So as we said, we learned the lessons from past elections

00:39:31.920 and try not to repeat them going forward

00:39:34.280 or we just got more years of liberals.

00:39:36.540 But it'll be, you know, again, as this campaign develops,

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00:40:31.080 you know, as we get towards the next guest, I'm looking, I think maybe we're at a turning point

00:40:36.400 year. I mean, I sure hope so. How much longer can we put up with, you know, Justin Trudeau? I mean,

00:40:43.740 as was pointed out, this is a guy who's, he's a clown. He's a lightweight, or you would think 0.98

00:40:48.060 he's a lightweight. He's not an electoral one, whether we like it or not, because he keeps

00:40:51.040 win in the bloody things. He wears blackface repeatedly. You know, he's, he's, he steps on 0.96

00:40:55.820 his own tongue when he's ever put into a circumstance where he doesn't have a script

00:41:00.000 in front of him. Yet we can't seem to take him down. It's going to take more. I don't know

00:41:07.200 exactly what it'll be. I'm, yeah, I've stayed before. I very much like Pierre Polyev. I don't

00:41:13.680 have a political membership though. I won't anymore these days. I'll be watching. I'll

00:41:17.800 certainly speak to those I like and those I don't like. Something I like about Polyev is that 1.00

00:41:22.360 if we get a debate between Polyev and Justin, I mean, it'll be a blowout. It'll be one of those

00:41:29.880 ones like a football game where they turn off the scoreboard after a period of time because it gets

00:41:33.900 too embarrassing. But does that win the election? That's the thing. I mean, we love Polyev, but he

00:41:41.200 also grates on a lot of people. So can he get that broader support? I hope so. I like where he

00:41:48.720 goes. I like his common sense. I like his attitude. But what I like isn't necessarily

00:41:52.520 what happens across country. Generally winning across the country takes a hell of a lot of

00:41:56.620 compromise. And, you know, that gets on to other discussions as to why I tend to support

00:42:00.100 Western independence anyways. The system's broken. I mean, we have to campaign to the

00:42:04.700 middle if we want to win, and I mean geographically. And that means that you have to sacrifice the

00:42:11.900 outlying areas if it doesn't work for you politically, strategically. So that leads us

00:42:16.860 at a constant impasse and things in the long run just never get better. I think Alberta has to get 1.00

00:42:22.600 independent. I think Saskatchewan has to get independent. I think after that, BC would probably

00:42:26.240 follow just out of geographical reality and maybe we could rebuild a better system. But, and here's

00:42:32.120 the big but. Because I know I get a lot of frustrated independence supporters out there

00:42:36.980 saying, you know, well, let's go tomorrow. Well, we aren't ready to go tomorrow. I wish we were.

00:42:40.540 We aren't. And in the meantime, we're still governed by that pack of clowns in Ottawa. 1.00

00:42:45.800 So we do want to make that pack of clowns as effective as we reasonably can. I don't think 0.97

00:42:53.080 we'll ever reasonably get there. But if we ignore them, somebody else will control those elections

00:42:58.140 and it's only going to get worse for ourselves.

00:43:00.460 I mean, we see at least a little bit of a crack.

00:43:02.740 This was interesting today, though, you know,

00:43:04.020 and as Dave was talking, here we go with another

00:43:05.920 Liberal member of Parliament who, I guess, 0.96

00:43:08.440 makes the ladies' knees weak.

00:43:10.220 But Joel Lightbound, he's a Quebec MP,

00:43:13.360 and he held a press conference.

00:43:14.640 I mean, you know, it's not just a Twitter statement

00:43:16.200 or something else.

00:43:17.740 And he said he's concerned about the COVID-19 policies,

00:43:21.080 and he says they have to be addressed,

00:43:22.780 which sounds a little light.

00:43:24.300 It sounds a little light compared to people like me

00:43:25.900 and a lot of our listeners and viewers who say,

00:43:27.520 we want it all done now. But hey, when you've got a Liberal member of Parliament breaking ranks like

00:43:32.280 that, that's a big deal. And that's a sign some things are perhaps changing within that party.

00:43:38.620 There's discontent. That's what I was talking to Clinton about too. It's not just the public

00:43:42.800 getting sick of looking at Justin Trudeau as the Prime Minister, but Justin's surrounded by a lot

00:43:47.720 of weasels underneath him in the Liberal caucus. And if you want cutthroat politics, look to the

00:43:53.200 Federal Liberal Party. And there's a lot of people with ambition who have been waiting for their

00:43:57.400 kick at the cat, hoping they could be the next prime minister. And they're not going to wait

00:44:01.980 forever under Justin. Justin's only 50 years old. Him and I embarrassingly shared the same

00:44:07.120 birthday in 1971, not the same day, but the same year. Politically, he could have 20 more years

00:44:13.360 left in him. So I think, you know, members underneath him with ambition, they aren't going

00:44:20.420 to sit forever and they're going to start cutting and the knives are going to start coming out. So

00:44:23.460 this little act of rebellion out of Joel Lightbound actually might be an indication that

00:44:28.180 some of that's starting to come along. They want to widen some cracks and start to bring about a

00:44:35.640 new prime minister going into the next race. If the conservatives have a good, strong leadership

00:44:40.380 race, they get a good, strong leader out of it, the liberals are going to be afraid. And maybe

00:44:45.400 they might not think that they're going to keep their jobs if they keep Trudeau at the front.

00:44:51.780 I don't know. We've got a lot going on. And the big damn factor in this whole thing is COVID-19.

00:44:58.560 It's divided people so much, even within conservatives and otherwise. It dominates 0.98

00:45:04.780 the news. It's hard to have a, how do we talk about longer term budgets? How do we talk about

00:45:08.580 the carbon tax? How do we talk about all those important things when we're always on this damn 0.99

00:45:15.080 pandemic? We need this behind us. I mean, that's part of why the status quo stays. We can't have 0.99

00:45:20.000 a good competitive race. We can't have nuanced discussions because everything gets overwhelmed

00:45:24.120 with this bloody pandemic. Man, I'm sick to death of it. I know all you are too.

00:45:29.460 There was a brilliant tweet from, yeah, I know. Am I saying 20 more years of Trudeau has really

00:45:34.460 freaked some people out? I hear you. I don't know though. If we really want independence,

00:45:37.920 give them 10 more years and I think that might speed our path there. But you might get back to

00:45:41.680 one of those cures worse than the disease ideas. It's just horrifying to think. But yeah, Trudeau

00:45:46.700 tweeted to great mockery the other night. I doubt he tweets on his own. There's not enough spelling

00:45:54.740 errors for it to be Trudeau. But all the same, somebody tweeted on his behalf with his account

00:45:59.180 and it was with, you could almost hear it in his, you know, breathy, dramatic voice. Canadians

00:46:06.780 have the right to protest, to disagree with their government and make their voices heard.

00:46:11.120 But we'll always protect that right. Let's be clear. They don't have the right to blockade

00:46:15.220 our economy, our democracy, or our fellow citizens' daily lives. It has to stop. I just despise it

00:46:21.400 when he tries to talk with authority. It just makes me cringe. I'm sure my imitation of him

00:46:26.360 probably made a lot of people cringe there too. But look at that. Let's be clear, they don't have

00:46:29.920 the right to blockade our economy, our democracy, or our fellow citizens' daily lives. What the hell

00:46:34.540 have you been doing the last two years? It's exactly what you've been doing. You've been

00:46:37.680 blocking us from going to work, blocking us from traveling, blocking our daily lives from visiting

00:46:42.100 friends, family, you've been masking children in schools, and you say somebody doesn't have the

00:46:48.660 right to blockade our economy, our democracy, and our fellow citizens' daily lives? Kiss my ass, 1.00

00:46:54.640 Justin. You don't have a high place to come from there. Don't tweet that crap out. People aren't 1.00

00:47:00.660 swallowing it anymore. You are doing a terrible job, but we got to get rid of the bloody guy. 1.00

00:47:07.560 And I don't know what it takes. 0.98

00:47:09.580 I really don't.

00:47:10.760 I guess if I did, I'd be running, but I don't think the world deserves that.

00:47:15.820 And we get a lot of mistrust and things going on.

00:47:17.840 Elections Canada talked about how they delayed, you know, shipping mail-in ballots to 123 voters until less than a week before the Election Day records show.

00:47:27.120 The Chief Electoral Office had claimed his agency was fully prepared to conduct a pandemic election.

00:47:32.720 Obviously, they weren't.

00:47:34.400 And the ballots came in late.

00:47:35.480 Now, I don't know if that would have been enough ballots to affect it. Probably not. There were reports that came out, too, that a whole lot of ballots showed up after Election Day. And, you know, again, it impacts the race. I'm not of a mind that that's what kept Justin in power at that time, but it shows us our half-assed system leading to more distrust, more instability, and the mess that we're in today. Get it together, you know?

00:48:02.880 And this pandemic crap, I mean, during the election, you could go into Walmart and stand in line and buy something. 0.99

00:48:12.120 There wasn't a problem. 0.99

00:48:12.760 But apparently, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Canadians were scared to cast a ballot in an election.

00:48:17.120 Come on.

00:48:18.720 I don't know how many times around the world we've got to see that.

00:48:21.700 There's only one way to cast ballots.

00:48:23.520 It's in person on a piece of bloody paper.

00:48:26.360 You know, I worked in the oil field for 20 years.

00:48:29.000 I had to use special ballots now and then.

00:48:30.760 But I always knew they gave lots of warning.

00:48:32.420 You can request it. You can go in before you go to the field into an elections office and then have it sealed and write it there.

00:48:39.000 Or there were actually mail-in ones. But it was a big process. It wasn't easy.

00:48:43.260 And it was only for people who could demonstrate that they just weren't able to make it to the advanced polls in person.

00:48:48.880 Online polling, I will never trust it. Never. You need a paper record to go back on.

00:48:54.200 I hate to say it, but it's reality. People try to rig elections.

00:48:59.700 That's why this system is archaic as it may feel to be of just having people come in,

00:49:06.420 present identification, be registered, put a physical ballot into a box.

00:49:13.040 It can be counted.

00:49:14.220 It can be checked on later.

00:49:16.280 You know, you can review it and you have scrutineers.

00:49:19.540 There's a lot of process.

00:49:20.360 If you've ever taken part in an election, there is a lot of transparency, actually,

00:49:23.840 more than some people, I think, understand.

00:49:26.320 You can sit, you can volunteer for a party.

00:49:28.380 you can be a scrutineer. You can sit there and watch the counting. You can watch the ballot

00:49:32.160 ballots going into the box. You can even, if you're there when the station opens,

00:49:39.780 the electoral officer will open up the empty ballot box to show you so that you know it's

00:49:43.660 not already been pre-stuffed. So we do have a lot of controls. We do have a workable system,

00:49:48.940 but I do start to get concerned when people talk about going to electronic means. And we also see

00:49:54.320 that they did make a heck of a mess out of trying for mail-in ballots during the pandemic. So

00:50:00.360 let's not encourage more of that. You know, I get annoyed too when people say, oh, we got to move

00:50:04.560 to these things because our voter turnouts are too low and it's too hard. Oh, spare me. It's so

00:50:09.080 easy to vote. You get so much notice. The amount of advanced polling available now and polling

00:50:14.680 stations are nearby. The hours are great. There's no excuse. People can get out and vote. It's not

00:50:19.840 that hard. We don't need to try and move towards digital systems and all that crap. If somebody's

00:50:24.300 too lazy to vote with all of that opportunity. I don't want to vote in any ways. We got enough

00:50:28.280 lazy voters already. Let's get the ones who at least, you know, no matter which one they chose,

00:50:33.400 if somebody had the brains and gumption to get off their butt, walk in the city, it's never more 0.99

00:50:37.520 than eight or 10 blocks to whatever your polling station is and cast a stinking ballot. Okay. 1.00

00:50:41.840 I've ranted enough for the moment. I'm sure I'll have some more ranting left in me later,

00:50:44.900 but I see our guest in the lobby there and that's author and Fraser Institute guy and taxpayer guy,

00:50:49.520 all sorts of things. Mark Mielke, I've had him on before. And we're going to talk about a column

00:50:55.900 he just recently put out that's kind of tied to his recent book there. So let's bring Mark in

00:51:01.280 and have a chat here. Hey, Mark, how you doing? Corey, thanks for having me. I'm doing great.

00:51:06.960 Oh, good, good. So yeah, you've written a column, I'm just kind of paraphrasing,

00:51:11.560 the cultural revolution up north, and it was in the National Review, and it was about

00:51:15.540 cancel culture, trying to rewrite history. Well, it was. I mean, this came from a number of

00:51:22.580 inspirations, you can say, over the past month. First of all, we found out, as you know, a couple

00:51:27.140 of weeks ago that Frances Whitteson, a professor, political science professor at Mount Royal

00:51:32.040 University in Calgary, was fired back in December, but we all found out in early January.

00:51:38.020 I've known Frances for over a decade. I did some work with her when I was with a small think tank

00:51:42.080 out of Winnipeg, the Frontier Center. And she's always been empirical. She's always paid attention

00:51:48.080 to realities on the ground and facts. And then, of course, Jordan Peterson, in his famous

00:51:52.260 announcement in the National Post, said, look, I can no longer in good conscience supervise white

00:51:57.500 male graduate students because, I'm paraphrasing a little bit, they probably don't have a hope of

00:52:02.100 being hired. And so we thought it was disingenuous to continue. I mean, this is unusual for a

00:52:07.280 professor of Jordan Peterson's stature to give up tenure at the University of Toronto.

00:52:12.700 So both of these developments led to the call in the National Review, the woke revolution up north,

00:52:17.680 the cultural revolution up north. And as some of you may know, I mean, the cultural revolution has

00:52:23.380 omens of historical, not great historical events, such as China, such as Cambodia and the rest.

00:52:32.100 And I'm not suggesting we're headed down that path in terms of physical harm. But certainly,

00:52:36.180 think there's intellectual harm being done in universities these days and I say that as someone

00:52:40.340 who spent way too much time in university getting my PhD and masters so I am somewhat familiar with

00:52:45.380 the environment. Yeah and for those who aren't familiar with that you know how the tenure system

00:52:49.860 is supposed to work I mean it's distressing to see somebody like Jordan Peterson you know giving it

00:52:53.780 up because it's quite a a prize in academia or to see somebody like Widowson where tenure didn't

00:52:59.700 protect her I mean the whole point of tenure was sort of to make sure that these professors had

00:53:04.500 academic freedom, and they would never be pressured even if their view was against the

00:53:09.360 majority. I mean, if you have a view with the majority, you don't need tenure. It's to protect

00:53:13.240 those controversial views so you can have open discourse, and it doesn't seem to be a protection

00:53:16.560 anymore. No, there doesn't, at least in her case, and we'll see how this ends up. I mean, I assume

00:53:23.300 there will be some negotiations and unions, but she's part of a union at Mount Royal University.

00:53:29.800 I assume there'll be some back and forth. We'll see where this lands. We'll see where this ends 0.94

00:53:34.100 up. And look, tenure is a double-edged sword. I mean, people can come up with all sorts of

00:53:39.120 anti-reality ideas in university and be protected by tenure. But in Whitteson's case,

00:53:46.360 my observation is that she simply told the truth. So for example, one of the things that Whitteson

00:53:50.980 said, I thought this didn't used to be a controversial subject, was to say, look,

00:53:57.260 there is no such thing as indigenous knowledge. And this is my view now, but Whitteson shares

00:54:02.980 that I know, there's no such thing as indigenous knowledge because there's no such thing as European

00:54:07.600 knowledge or Russian knowledge or American knowledge or Japanese knowledge or Sri Lankan

00:54:12.440 knowledge. What there is in the physical world are realities that are discoverable and verifiable

00:54:18.540 by everyone. That's basic science. So you do an empirical investigation, find out what's happening

00:54:23.720 and hopefully link cause and effect in a tight manner. And the notion that there's knowledge

00:54:28.820 that is reserved for a special people based on your ethnicity or your race or your gender or

00:54:34.060 anything like that. Or historically, this concept used to occur in faith traditions. I mean, we have

00:54:38.700 a special knowledge, a special connection, and only we know this. This is nonsensical. It doesn't

00:54:44.860 matter if you're an Arab engineer in the 12th century, putting up a building somewhere in the

00:54:49.460 Middle East, you have to pay attention to physical realities on the ground. Likewise, when Newton

00:54:55.720 discovers grabbing an apple falls on his head, at least in the tail, that's a verifiable reality.

00:55:02.960 Any of us can drop an apple on our heads, and it doesn't matter if you live in Beijing or Boston.

00:55:07.180 So Widdowson simply stated the truth, that there is no such thing as indigenous knowledge. Now,

00:55:13.600 look, every tradition has, you know, you could say, you know, grandmother's, you know, home

00:55:18.300 recipes or, you know, whatever. And, you know, but those are shareable as well. I mean, you can find

00:55:23.980 cause and effect as to why soup tastes one way and not another, or a home remedy that may have

00:55:29.640 some use. But it's not the property, so to speak, the intellectual property of any particular race

00:55:35.260 or ethnicity or anything like that. And Whitteson got into trouble for simply stating the obvious.

00:55:40.560 And that to me is concerning because, again, it shows there's a bit of romanticism going on with

00:55:44.460 indigenous culture, as opposed to, look, we can all share discoveries, and it really doesn't

00:55:49.440 matter what your background is yeah I mean we do the words revisionism or

00:55:54.660 romanticism I mean people I mean I'm certain there's a a number of great

00:56:00.480 cultural things and fantastic things from the First Nations communities in

00:56:03.840 Canada but they were also in a different state of I guess you can say

00:56:07.740 social development than than the outside world it's not shooting I mean I think

00:56:14.160 yeah yes I'm sorry absolutely for that correction yes I mean but we aren't

00:56:19.020 even allowed to talk about that or as if there might be differences and we should be examining

00:56:22.840 these things and not fearful and looking at some of those cultural uh differences and changes uh

00:56:28.080 without fear well there are a number of weird currents going on here i would say court i mean

00:56:32.100 one of them is that there's this fear of cultural appropriation so you've got this weird notion

00:56:35.800 that that you know cultures these days should be 100 pure as much as possible right we've seen this

00:56:41.740 in various debates a couple of years ago there was a dress worn by some graduate you know 18

00:56:46.000 year old graduate I think she was in Texas you know and and some young you know fellow whose

00:56:51.160 you know background was was Chinese took offense except people in China didn't take offense you

00:56:55.600 know my understanding of the media coverage was that it was positive you know I mean borrow away

00:57:00.160 you know wear the dress whatever you want to do we've got this weird thing today where people are

00:57:05.240 overly touchy about their cultures as opposed to understanding actually you know if you look at

00:57:10.140 history cultural sharing is the best way to put it as opposed to appropriation and cultural

00:57:15.140 discovery, sharing between cultures, and whether it's begged, borrowed, or stolen, that's actually

00:57:20.460 how any culture advances, right? I mean, one of the reasons Europe was able to advance, unlike,

00:57:25.620 say, Africa for a certain time period, was because, as the economist Thomas Sowell points out,

00:57:31.420 there were lots of inlets and rivers in Europe where you could transverse, and you could discover

00:57:35.580 things from other countries and other parts of Europe. This led to cultural transfers, which

00:57:39.720 helped the development of science, unlike the inland of Africa, which didn't have the same sort

00:57:44.280 easy access um you know so or look i mean uh again europeans frankly copying from you know

00:57:52.880 a superior arab civilization at the height of islamic civilization when europe was in the dark 0.75

00:57:58.740 ages um cultural boring is a good thing and this again relates back to the notion of empirical 0.98

00:58:04.200 knowledge and we're getting a bit away from my column in national review but the point is we've

00:58:08.720 got people in this country now who are like fired you know because they they tell the truth there

00:58:13.280 or in the case of Jordan Peterson says, look, I've got great scientists and their, you know,

00:58:18.980 palette happens to be the same as mine. And are we really going to make sort of the quality of

00:58:23.780 outcome, statistical outcome, the factor in hiring people? I mean, that's crazy,

00:58:30.260 you know, and it's discriminatory. So we're a long way. I mean, back to the call in the

00:58:35.240 National Review, you know, back to the victim call, I wrote about this. If we're actually

00:58:39.360 saying that, you know, every ethnicity should be apportioned jobs and incomes and what have you,

00:58:45.620 or government grants, as is happening with our federal government. If we're really saying that

00:58:50.400 it has to be absolute equal outcomes, well, then what we're doing is we're getting rid of the 0.98

00:58:54.200 effects of education, geography, the time of new immigrant classes in the country, and this sort of

00:58:59.140 thing. This is really concerning. And everything, this has to do with this notion that everything

00:59:02.940 is due to racism, and somehow it must be government corrected. There are other factors,

00:59:06.800 parents, family breakdown, where you grew up, the education, you know, that your culture

00:59:11.880 emphasizes or not, so on and so forth. So it's very concerning that we're going down this road of

00:59:17.940 cultural isolationism, as I call it, and for telling the truth, as Whittowson did,

00:59:23.580 or trying to point out the offensiveness of apportioning to things by race or gender,

00:59:28.600 that Jordan Peterson felt he could no longer in good conscience supervise white male graduate

00:59:32.420 its students. I mean, this is a very troublesome development on both fronts.

00:59:37.380 Yeah. Well, and I mean, a culture shouldn't be static. I mean, that's not healthy. As you said,

00:59:41.940 cultural sharing is important. I mean, I think every culture evolved. They found things that

00:59:46.260 were other cultures brought in things that were superior and they embraced them. As you said,

00:59:51.300 with more exposure to the outside cultures, you could see, hey, these guys are doing something

00:59:55.780 that's working a lot better than what we've been doing. Let's take that on. But we take it now. I

01:00:00.260 I mean, assimilation is the buzzword quite often there.

01:00:03.240 Anything that changes away from a culturally static state is now viewed as an attempt to assimilate and making things wrong or bad.

01:00:11.660 And again, it's a delicate area, but we should be allowed to discuss these things at least.

01:00:17.020 Well, discuss and frankly, warn against.

01:00:19.760 I mean, there are two particular dangers with what I call this cultural isolationism or cultural purity.

01:00:24.360 Number one is that you actually don't progress as an individual or a community if you don't borrow from other cultures.

01:00:30.960 The experience of Japan when it shut itself off from the world for two and a half centuries until it was, you know, forced open in the mid-19th century by the Americans, you know, landing at Tokyo Bay basically and opening it up, you know, via a naval ship.

01:00:47.700 the experience of Japan, which was very weak vis-a-vis the outside world, is a good example

01:00:52.220 that walling yourself off in the outside world for centuries just doesn't work. And it certainly 0.99

01:00:58.100 doesn't work in the modern environment either. The other danger is this. This notion of cultural

01:01:02.540 purity in history is not new. As I wrote about in The Victim Cult, the worst example of this,

01:01:07.460 the most frightening example of this touchiness about cultural purity came from Germany. 0.91

01:01:13.720 In the late 18th century, Germany was conquered by France or parts of Germany were conquered by 0.68

01:01:21.640 France. And the reaction to this after the Germans kicked out the French in the early 19th century

01:01:26.840 is that they began to search around for their identity again. And they said, well, let's look

01:01:29.800 back to Frederick the Great and others who made us a great nation. But they also had this notion

01:01:35.880 of cultural purity, what it means to be German, and was very exclusive. You couldn't be Jewish. 0.80

01:01:42.920 You couldn't be an immigrant. You couldn't be British. You couldn't be a liberal, by the way. 1.00

01:01:46.520 They rejected what they had learned in the Enlightenment. They rejected the Enlightenment

01:01:49.860 lessons, which before they had learned. So Germany became culturally pure long before it became 0.85

01:01:55.060 enamored with race purity later in the 19th century and also with the Nazis. This is a 0.85

01:02:00.580 very dangerous development. Again, cultural sharing is a much better way to go about life as an

01:02:06.380 individual or as a community than this notion of cultural purity, because it leads to a closed

01:02:10.780 mindedness uh most of us learn uh either by doing and making mistakes or hopefully uh the better way

01:02:18.140 to to learn is to is to not try and construct a building without reference to what others have

01:02:23.100 done before figure out what works and build your building that way but it's the same thing with any

01:02:27.900 development or any any aspect of science or any other cultural development so uh we really need

01:02:33.020 to reverse on this notion of cultural isolation isolationism it's uh it's got pride and precedent

01:02:37.900 in history. Yeah, and I've had you on before, because what you've been talking about, as you

01:02:42.620 said, I mean, your column tied in a lot to the subject matter of your book. So we'll talk a

01:02:46.740 little more about your book. I had you on about that before, and it was called The Victim Cult.

01:02:50.800 Now, grievance culture hurts everyone and wrecks civilization. So I just want to give the listeners

01:02:55.800 of yours to know you can get a much more expanded discussion of this whole subject out there where

01:02:59.840 you've written on it. Maybe give a bit of a synopsis on what you wrote and why you're inspired

01:03:03.380 two i know it's a big issue or subject well because it's so dangerous as i mentioned again

01:03:09.460 look i talked to a fellow the other the other week who came from sri lanka originally about three

01:03:14.420 decades ago um and he said look all of us have the same skin color in sri lanka but nonetheless

01:03:19.780 we divided among tamils a minority and the majority and uh it was a disastrous experience and i wrote

01:03:25.380 about the same phenomenon rwanda i mean everyone had the same skin color black but tutus and and

01:03:31.620 Hutus and Tutsis divided based on that notion that somehow one was a superior, inferior race.

01:03:38.800 And that led to a genocide in the early 1990s and 1994. So this notion again of I and my culture

01:03:48.300 should be pure or that I'm a victim of you because of past harms, this is really a dangerous

01:03:54.600 road to trod and one should not go down this road. Instead, we really need to reverse on this and go

01:04:01.500 back to the vision of Martin Luther King Jr., that we should judge each other on the character

01:04:07.680 inside ourselves and not on our skin killer. We've gotten away from it. Ironically, progressives

01:04:13.060 have gotten away from this more than anyone else. And it's a disastrous development. And I think it

01:04:19.520 can have no good end. But I wrote about this at length in the victim cult, and I touched on this

01:04:24.220 again in the latest column in National Review for that reason. These are not positive developments.

01:04:28.900 and progressives in particular and woke folk

01:04:32.120 who think they're heading down the right avenue here

01:04:34.120 had better read history a little more carefully

01:04:37.180 and understand the dangers of dividing people

01:04:39.880 based on identities that are unchangeable

01:04:42.640 because your skin color is unchangeable. 1.00

01:04:44.760 Your ethnicity is unchangeable. 1.00

01:04:46.160 Where you were born is unchangeable.

01:04:48.100 It's one thing to divide based on ideas

01:04:50.120 and good ideas and bad ideas.

01:04:52.040 It's one thing to maybe even divide on faith.

01:04:54.340 Anybody can become a Christian or a Muslim

01:04:55.900 or an atheist for that matter,

01:04:57.160 but you can't change your identity. You really can't. And it's dangerous to encourage people 0.60

01:05:02.380 to segment off based on unchangeable characteristics. That ends really badly in most

01:05:08.320 historical examples that I examined in the victim cult and also talk about briefly in the latest

01:05:13.520 column in National Review. Yeah, well, and it's dangerous to shut down discourse and that's what

01:05:18.620 keeps happening and that's what gets me nervous all the time. I don't, as you said, I mean,

01:05:23.380 tenure, for example, cuts both ways. I mean, there's been some pretty kooky academics who

01:05:27.520 are putting out some nutty stuff, but you just have to take the good with the bad and have the

01:05:31.800 debate and the discourse. If you start taking sides though and making academics afraid to go

01:05:37.700 into what might be considered controversial issues, we're all going to lose for that.

01:05:42.780 Well, we are, and especially students. I mean, look, if you're a student in a modern university

01:05:47.240 and you're taught that everything's a result of racism, it's such a monocausal explanation,

01:05:51.500 and it's false. You're doing a disservice to students to give that sort of notion out there

01:05:56.300 to, you know, whether you're an undergraduate or in your master's or PhD. And I suppose the

01:06:02.780 other problem here is cultural as well. I mean, when you sort through what I think are good ideas

01:06:08.680 or bad ideas is to ask yourself, does this idea coming out of the university environment or

01:06:13.320 anywhere else correspond what you think is common sense reality? Is it really the case,

01:06:19.440 For example, that Canada is an institutionally racist country.

01:06:24.460 If you look at the statistics, as I did in the victim cult, and write about in columns on a regular basis,

01:06:30.520 if you look at the census data in Canada, you will find who's at the top of the income peak

01:06:35.460 if you do apple-to-apple comparisons or even average comparisons. 0.97

01:06:38.840 Well, it's usually East Indian Canadians.

01:06:41.600 It's Canadians of Taiwanese ancestry or Japanese ancestry, so East Asian ancestry. 0.87

01:06:48.220 And then it's other Canadians below that. 0.62

01:06:50.380 But if you do apple to apple comparisons, even where, for example, a young indigenous

01:06:54.140 person between the ages of 25 and 34 has a bachelor's degree or higher, they aren't just

01:06:59.960 as much as any other Canadian.

01:07:01.420 And the reason for that is because you're comparing apples to apples.

01:07:05.380 So I think it's really important to stick to the facts and become acquainted with the

01:07:10.160 facts.

01:07:10.480 And I'm not sure that enough people in academia are these days.

01:07:15.920 And there's, there's a dearth of research on this in Canada. And I've done some others have

01:07:20.480 touched upon this over the decades, but there's not a lot of, there's, there's not a lot of

01:07:24.800 research done into the census data to produce apple and apple comparisons. Everybody lives on

01:07:29.120 averages, which hides a multitude of inputs. Well, yeah, there's a lot to be compared and

01:07:36.160 looked at correctly. So thanks very much for coming in to talk to us about this today.

01:07:40.240 Where can we find your books and what you're up to currently, you know, where, where do your

01:07:44.240 columns come out and things such as that, Mark? Well, you can go to thevictimcult.com. I mean,

01:07:48.560 you can find the books in amazon.ca. You can get them in chapters, Indigo. You can find them in

01:07:54.480 your local bookstores. You can also go to, again, thevictimcult.com website on my own personal

01:07:59.760 website, markmilkey.com. You'll see the latest columns there as well. Great. Well, that's much

01:08:05.280 appreciated and looking forward to your next columns coming out. And as I said, I did read

01:08:09.280 The Victim Cult and it is a good read, folks. It's a bit of a thinker and it's worth it. They'll go

01:08:13.440 out and check it out. And yeah, I hope we get to talk again soon, Mark. Thank you, Corey.

01:08:18.600 Great. Thanks. So yeah, I mean, you know, as I said, I mean, there's a lot of nuanced stuff

01:08:25.880 and that book is really a good read. Don't worry. He's not a sponsor. I'm not saying if his book

01:08:29.860 was bad, I would have just said nothing. But I mean, it's my bigger fear overall too, though,

01:08:35.600 is just the lack of discourse, the fear of conversation. And we're all going to lose from

01:08:42.240 that. It's dangerous. The word he used often was dangerous, and I think it is. Now, yeah, just a

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01:10:22.260 follow me on Twitter at Corey B. Morgan. And that's where we can really get scrapping and have

01:10:26.060 some fun because I do like the discourse. So let's have a little more discussion before we

01:10:30.340 close things off here and look through a few more things. Another area that's got me disturbed as

01:10:35.140 we see and it's getting back to my opening rant saying we've got to start lifting restrictions

01:10:39.120 meanwhile we've got a story from a public health agency saying sixth and seventh waves are soon

01:10:46.780 going to occur and some will be quite severe that's in quotes some will actually be quite severe

01:10:51.840 these guys won't give up on this crazy joe vipond ndp joe vipond people like him they want this to

01:11:00.300 carry on. They want you to remain scared. They want the restrictions to stay in perpetuity.

01:11:06.600 There has truly been a zero risk cult built. They feel that as long as one person can potentially

01:11:13.440 get harmed, we have to shut the world down. And it really is. I mean, you watch online,

01:11:19.040 you watch some of that ridiculous discussion. You want to know whether there's a lot of things

01:11:22.300 that trigger me. When some ding dong says one death is too many. Yeah, fine. So that's it.

01:11:28.380 that settles an argument? No. And you can't prevent every death. We do it every day. We do

01:11:35.320 a cost benefit on what is a realistic amount of policy to protect people and the amount of actual

01:11:40.680 deaths we will allow. I mean, speed limits. If we lowered them down on highways to 10 kilometers

01:11:48.160 an hour and heavily enforced them, we would probably save hundreds and hundreds of lives

01:11:53.380 every year. So why don't we? I mean, one death's too many, right? Because it's unreasonable. We

01:11:58.280 can't do that. We can't crush our economy so badly, can't hinder people that much to save those

01:12:05.260 people. So we had to find the balance. And that's for the same reason we don't allow everybody to

01:12:08.920 go 200 kilometers an hour either. We take an acceptable degree of risk and we legislate based

01:12:14.660 on that. If we had an RN posted on every street corner or every block in case there was an

01:12:23.300 emergency and a doctor every 10 blocks. I bet, you know, because we know in medical emergencies,

01:12:28.360 if you can get a professional to them fast, that's a, and we do have a problem with that,

01:12:32.640 by the way, with our ER attendance, but we can save lives. We definitely save lives. If we had

01:12:37.740 all of them there, when a heart attack happens or an accident happens, why don't we do it?

01:12:41.720 So we can't afford to. We have to draw that line again. How many medical professionals can we

01:12:48.140 afford? How many is sufficient to reduce the risk to an acceptable level? And in COVID, we got this

01:12:54.460 discussion moving towards a zero sum, which is unrealistic, impossible, but we're going to

01:12:59.860 bankrupt ourselves trying. We have to take the discussion out of that unreasonable trying to

01:13:05.460 save every life. We can't. So yes, I do believe if we locked every person in their homes, never allow

01:13:11.660 them outside, I don't know, put them in Scott packs if they had to actually step out and somehow

01:13:16.000 set up a system of food deliveries, 0.81

01:13:17.840 we might be able to bring infections down to near zero.

01:13:20.720 That's what it's going to have to take,

01:13:22.200 and that's not realistic.

01:13:24.500 But here we have these health professionals

01:13:27.080 spreading fear,

01:13:29.000 constantly pushing for more lockdowns,

01:13:31.120 more restrictions. 1.00

01:13:31.740 Rachel Notley's had her hair all on fire.

01:13:34.180 Oh, Jason Kenney hasn't even announced

01:13:35.400 that he's going to open things up yet,

01:13:36.720 and she's howling about

01:13:38.660 about how people are going to die

01:13:40.100 because he's going to start easing restrictions.

01:13:42.140 That communist would keep us locked up

01:13:43.940 until we die of old age.

01:13:46.000 I'm sick of people openly talking about keeping us locked down.

01:13:50.520 It's enough.

01:13:51.740 And I'm not the only one sick of it.

01:13:53.320 That's why we've got convoys set up across this country.

01:13:56.160 That's why we've got people finally pushing back. 0.99

01:13:58.300 That's why over 50% of people finally realize that the himbo that we have as a prime minister is doing a bad job on this. 1.00

01:14:07.560 They're done with it. 1.00

01:14:09.060 We've got to learn to live with it.

01:14:10.820 If you're worried about the hospitals being overrun, then let's talk about fixing the healthcare system.

01:14:15.120 Talk about it.

01:14:16.000 Get beyond this rigid Canadian socialized system that is only shared by North Korea and Cuba.

01:14:23.160 Yeah, those are the only countries where they actually illegalize private care the way we do.

01:14:29.580 And this private all over the place anyways.

01:14:32.000 Get over the politics of envy.

01:14:33.480 You really want to make it better for everybody.

01:14:35.680 You want to have more beds.

01:14:36.840 You want to have more facilities.

01:14:38.120 And let's talk about actually changing the system.

01:14:40.940 Because we've been spending a fortune on it.

01:14:42.520 We're constantly putting more money in.

01:14:43.760 obviously more money won't make the difference, so you have to change the system. So quit being

01:14:47.720 chicken shits about it, and let's talk about it. Let's talk about tearing down that system and 0.99

01:14:51.080 rebuilding it. Let's talk about taking on the unions, perhaps. Yeah, I know. Here they go, 0.75

01:14:56.000 right? We've got problems, and they're systemic, but we've got to get on with it.

01:15:04.200 Getting on to hard dollars and cents, too. Bank of Canada Governor Tiff Macklem said,

01:15:09.780 actually he got taken to task at a committee. It looks like a Senate banking committee. Yes,

01:15:15.400 because they're inaccurate inflation forecasting. There we go. Wow. Nico is right on. And yeah,

01:15:21.960 the bank has a credibility gap on the rising cost of living. The Senate banking committee was told.

01:15:26.480 So these are the guys controlling our economy. These are the ones, you know, flooding our,

01:15:30.280 our, our market with currencies. And then, you know, it gets back to Bitcoin. Well, I mean,

01:15:36.020 I won't do the full ad again on that right now, but a digital currencies, you know,

01:15:39.380 people worry about the stability. Well, look at our current currencies. These guys who manage it

01:15:43.400 and control interest rates and the release and printing of money have a credibility gap and

01:15:48.680 they're terrible at forecasting. So, you know, again, we're in a bad place. We've got to fix

01:15:56.700 our economy up. We've got to cut the spending down. We've got to re-examine our healthcare

01:16:00.640 system. But most of all, we've got to end all these stupid mandates. And that's federal and 1.00

01:16:06.240 provincial and municipal. The next dust

01:16:08.280 up that'll come too. You've already seen it from Jody Gondek

01:16:10.480 and all the crazed control 0.85

01:16:12.240 freak lefties who want to keep you locked up. 0.91

01:16:14.320 They're saying, Jody, you've got to fight back against Jason.

01:16:16.500 You've got to shut Calgary down even if

01:16:18.260 Kenny, you know, wants

01:16:20.340 to open things up. That's interesting

01:16:22.060 because they're saying, hey, it's municipal. You should allow

01:16:24.280 it to be municipal. The provincial government

01:16:26.300 should never step on municipal rights.

01:16:28.200 But then they say, well, when it comes to Sean Chu,

01:16:30.240 Jason Kenney should go in and overturn

01:16:32.060 the election results in the municipal election

01:16:34.260 and throw him out. Guys, you can't have it both ways. So if you don't want Kenny telling you what

01:16:40.560 to do on one front, then he's not going to tell you what to do on another. So make your minds up.

01:16:47.200 But I mean, it will damage Calgary badly if Mayor Gondek, and she's been horrible. My God,

01:16:52.580 she made Ninchy look good already. And she's only been in for less than six months. 0.99

01:16:57.760 If she keeps all the mask mandates, and if she tries to keep other things such as vax passes

01:17:02.140 and all that crap in the city of Calgary while the rest of the provinces opened up. What do

01:17:05.920 you think is going to happen? She's already got a hollow downtown. She's already got businesses 1.00

01:17:09.840 on the edge. I owned a pub in Prentice for years. Prentice is just a town on the suburbs of Calgary.

01:17:15.300 We're 10 kilometers out. Doesn't take long to get there. They're going to do great if Mayor Gondek

01:17:20.780 keeps the restrictions going here. If people say, oh, it's just a minor inconvenience. No, no, it's

01:17:24.360 not. I will go out of my way to go to a business where I don't have to wear a mask. I'll go out of

01:17:28.980 my way to go to a business where I don't have to present identification to get into it.

01:17:33.480 I'll go out of my way to go to a business where I can stand up and talk to a person at the next

01:17:36.900 table without being told it to do. Other people will too. Thousands, maybe millions. So if our

01:17:43.860 mayors are stupid enough, and I'm afraid they are, to drive that business out of the city and hurt 1.00

01:17:48.580 their own citizens that much more, we got to start, speaking of re-evaluating, we got to start 1.00

01:17:52.600 re-evaluating the re-election of these idiots because we're hurting ourselves and we're not 1.00

01:17:57.180 seeing benefit out of it. It's not stopping the infections, people. So stop it. Okay, I think I 1.00

01:18:03.880 have bent your ears enough, but I do want to get on tomorrow. I'm going to have Spencer Fernando

01:18:09.960 coming on. He's from people familiar with him. He's written a lot of columns. He's out there on

01:18:14.800 social media a lot. And he wrote, he's been attending, he's from Winnipeg. He's been attending

01:18:20.020 some of the protests out there. So we'll get a perspective from Winnipeg. We don't hear enough

01:18:23.260 about that part of the country. No, it's kind of stuck right there in the middle, all that cold and

01:18:26.700 mosquitoes and everything, but there are a lot of people living there, a lot of good Canadians,

01:18:29.800 and we should talk about that area a little bit more. So Spencer's going to join me there and

01:18:33.480 we'll see what else we get for guests as well while we're at it. There's going to be a lot

01:18:36.460 of discussion of issues. And as Dave was saying, the issues are breaking faster than we can write

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01:18:56.100 guys for tuning in again today. I'll see you tomorrow morning at 1130. And we'll see what

01:19:01.120 I can rant about then.

01:19:26.100 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - February 09, 2022

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