00:35:33.400And, uh, I, I just personally worry a little more.
00:35:36.140I hate, I do not want to see enforcement start happening cause that's when people get hurt.
00:35:40.340So I'm just hoping reasonable minds can continue on this as they have so far.
00:35:45.240One of the interesting things in Ottawa, some of the rhetoric is about how people feel like they say that they feel confined to their own house, right?0.74
00:36:01.160I've heard from many people in Ottawa, you can walk through the city anywhere you want.
00:36:06.540this is not like some occupation zone like what Antifa did last year or the year before with a
00:36:13.500section of Washington state there was a city there where Antifa put up the you know basically
00:36:20.340occupied a section of the city in Ottawa you can walk around anywhere and yet you have people
00:36:25.760complaining about being confined to their house and they want to get back to normal they say
00:36:32.260But I find it very ironic. We've had almost two years of violations of our charter freedoms by way of lockdowns. And every time I hear this, I think, have you been complaining the last two years about being locked in your house and not being able to enjoy life normally, live life normally, hang out with friends, have your parents over for Christmas dinner?
00:36:56.540you know, and now you're complaining about truckers making it sound as if this is like
00:37:04.040lockdowns. I mean, any inconvenience that the truckers are imposing in Ottawa is a fraction
00:37:11.880of the hardships that have been inflicted on Canadians by lockdowns in the past two years.
00:37:18.280Yeah, there was a big irony of one statement out of Prime Minister Trudeau when he said something
00:37:22.780along the lines of, they have no right to interfere in the ability of Canadians to move
00:37:28.700around or make a living or things like that. And as others have pointed out, well, that's
00:37:33.660exactly what you've been doing for two years now. What are you talking about? But it really
00:37:38.520demonstrates that gross double standard. So I guess in wrapping up, you guys are doing
00:37:43.560great work. Where can people find you and support or keep track of your actions? Because
00:37:48.580I know you've got a whole bunch of others not even related to the Convoy stuff. You
00:37:51.380guys are always very busy uh where can people look you up so justice center for constitutional
00:37:57.000freedoms uh www.jccf f as in freedoms.ca and uh sign up we we send out a newsletter once every
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00:38:26.420coast we're funded entirely by voluntary donations that makes it possible for the lawyers to provide
00:38:34.340free of charge legal representation to all of these clients across canada great well thank
00:38:40.660you very much for the work you do john and thanks for taking the time to come on and update us with
00:38:44.500it it's always appreciated when you come on the show so i'll let you get back to work there on
00:38:49.060your important stuff and I hope we get to talk again soon. Okay, have a great day. Thanks for
00:38:53.420having me on your show. Great. Thanks, John. So yes, just in reviewing, that was John Carpe of
00:38:58.560the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. And these guys have just been fantastic throughout
00:39:03.960this. As I said, they've got a lot of other stuff. If you go to their website, challenges on the go
00:39:08.340and things all over the place besides the convoy stuff and their ability to keep up with it like
00:39:13.220this has been striking. I saw some of the comment scrolls actually. Yeah, and at Corey B. Morgan,
00:39:18.280I'll throw the plug for myself on Twitter if you want to interact with me.
00:40:00.680Uh, it doesn't, I don't know if Coyne actually said that or not.
00:40:04.600I didn't see it, but it wouldn't surprise me the elitism out of him.
00:40:07.960I mean, talk about, uh, such a, I watched some of his panel interviews and things, you
00:40:13.020know, and I mean, he's a, he's a great columnist.
00:40:14.940He's been around a long time, but boy, you know, he shows that established media snottiness and, uh, you know, just, just high horse dismissal of, uh, the unwashed and to hear him say a term like that, if, if that's what he said, I can certainly believe it.
00:40:32.380That would be right up the sort of thing you would say.
00:40:34.480It's just another high horse dismissive way to say that these underlings, these unwashed
00:40:39.700people shouldn't be out there standing up for themselves like this and we shouldn't
00:49:26.200And, I mean, they're a company that's out here with real live people, not some crazy call center on the other end of the planet or anything, because there's a lot of questions.
00:51:22.660to the post-secondary institutions basically saying
00:51:26.480we are expecting the institutions to come in line with what the Alberta government is planning
00:51:36.480and the timeline that they are planning for relaxing these mandates.
00:51:42.220And it looks like, you know, I actually put a story out yesterday
00:51:46.000and followed up with some of the major post-secondary institutions in Alberta
00:51:51.140just to get an idea of where they stand.
00:51:53.500Now, I reached out to these post-secondary institutions before the letter from the education minister or the advanced education minister came out.
00:52:06.020But most of them were basically saying they are going to sort of stay the same status quo.
00:52:11.580They are still going to implement the vaccine passport in the schools.
00:52:16.760So requiring students and staff to show proof of vaccination to be able to access campuses.
00:52:22.360and keeping up with mask mandates and whatnot until they review the safety that this will
00:52:32.300have, the effect to the safety of students and staff on site. So none of the institutions that
00:52:42.400I received statements from yesterday, including Mount Royal University, SAIT, University of
00:52:49.700Calgary, U of A, and University of Lethbridge. None of them plan to make any changes to their
00:52:58.560policy yet. However, we did hear that the university or the school in Red Deer, sorry,
00:53:10.940I'm just trying to find my notes. The Polytech, yes, thank you, has lifted the restrictions.
00:53:19.700and the vaccine, the mandatory vaccine policy. So those have gone away. But our news editor,
00:53:28.020Dave Naylor says he has a source that is hearing that some post-secondary institutions may push
00:53:36.260back against the relaxing of these mandates. So yeah, this could be a quite a challenge,
00:53:43.540you know, I mean, and it is complicated. Like we get the chancellors of the universities and such,
00:53:48.740and we do want them to maintain some degree of independence from government but at the same time
00:53:52.820these are tax funded institutions so the government has I believe a right and ability to at least
00:53:58.340oversee and perhaps occasionally intervene on their behavior if they're deviating away from
00:54:03.060what's expected as an institution that hey is getting their bread buttered from the taxpayers
00:54:07.700definitely yeah so we do plan to follow up with that and in fact I I do plan to reach back out to
00:54:14.260the institutions again and just find out if they have a different statement now that the
00:54:20.740minister of advanced education has put that letter out sort of encouraging but also expecting
00:54:28.260with the expectation that these post-secondary institutions are going to follow the directives
00:54:33.700that are coming down from the alberta government so we will certainly be following that over the
00:54:38.980course of the next few weeks it looks like it is march 1st um that they are expecting students to
00:54:46.260be able to return with uh with no hindrance to their to their access to in-person learning uh
00:54:54.500masking things like that so um yeah so we'll be following that through the month of february for
00:54:59.860sure good i sure hope they can get back to school soon i mean it's so important it's ridiculous that
00:55:04.740that we're separating students like this.
00:55:06.620I mean, it's an early point in your life.
00:55:08.660These are lost years, that time that's gonna really
00:55:10.800set them back in just their development in general.
00:55:29.220I know there are students who were coming to the end
00:55:32.940their you know their four years and they were going to be graduating and and have had to put
00:55:37.340that off and you know um i think uh i think there's a lot of hope that uh that these you know
00:55:45.180the learning environment will again be normalized and um these restrictions will go away
00:55:51.420so what other stories you got in the burner that are on top there so right now i'm working on a
00:55:56.860story. So there has been a court challenge that has been ongoing since December of 2020.
00:56:05.820This is a constitutional challenge that was put against the government of Alberta
00:56:13.100and the mandates and restrictions that they were bringing in. Let's see here, the plaintiffs are
00:56:19.980two churches in Alberta. One is the Heights Baptist Church in Medicine Hat. The other is
00:56:27.740Northside Baptist Church in Calgary. And then there are, I believe, three individuals that are named
00:56:34.060as plaintiffs on this constitutional challenge as well. And that has, again, started December of
00:56:42.6202020 and so this has been ongoing for quite some time. I believe that that the court was able to
00:56:52.060hear Dina Hinshaw speak in I believe it was July of 2021 and then the cross-examination for Dr.
00:57:02.860Hinshaw was supposed to happen in September however because of the fourth wave and Dr. Hinshaw's
00:57:12.620attention to the pandemic. And I believe her lawyers filed for an adjournment saying that
00:57:22.500she was not available. So that ended up not happening in September. The cross-examination
00:57:29.700of Dr. Hinshaw didn't happen in September. It has been put off till now. So now we are back
00:57:35.440into court proceedings. In fact, they started this morning at the Court of Queen's Bench of Alberta.
00:57:40.780and so just following that opening statements this morning I've been listening in and I am
00:57:48.760just working out details I know we've talked about this I've talked about this in an interview I did
00:57:54.540with lawyer Leighton Gray who is one of the lawyers working with the plaintiffs on this
00:58:00.660people are really hoping to be able to watch this or attend this hearing or these these hearings
00:58:08.480It's going to run for about the next 10 days to 14 days, depending on how long some of the cross-examinations run.
00:58:18.180But I am just working it out right now.
00:58:20.480I've got a story that's going to be coming out right away here.
00:58:22.800And we are just waiting to get the authorization to include a link allowing the public to join in and watch the proceedings.
00:58:33.720So again, those are going to be running today, tomorrow, all through next week.
00:58:39.060I believe that Dr. Dina Hinshaw is scheduled to speak, sorry, to be cross-examined in the
00:58:46.660trial next Wednesday and Thursday, if they stick to the schedule that I've seen so far.
00:58:52.960And so we're going to be just following along with this and making sure that we update things.
00:58:58.000And like I say, if I can get this link and have authorization to make it public, I will be putting that out to all of our viewers and all of our readers for sure.
00:59:09.040Great. Well, that's an interesting one to watch. Definitely.
00:59:12.280I mean, that could be explosive if the right questions are asked and answered, but we'll see.
00:59:17.000I mean, people have tried to get her into the courtroom before and to date hasn't been any success with that yet.
00:59:22.920Yeah, interestingly, the lawyers, again, Leighton Gray and Jeff Rath, had requested that Dr. Dina Hinshaw be ordered to speak in the cross-examination in person in the court.
00:59:39.880However, the the justice that's overseeing this has has sort of denied that request and are allowing all of the cross examinations and testimony to be done virtually through their WebEx system.
00:59:54.580So, again, that's the system I'm just trying to get authorization to be able to share the link with with people so that they can watch this over the coming days and into next week.
01:00:05.440So, yeah. And the other thing I was going to fill you in on, too, was was what's happening at the Coutts border.
01:00:12.660Of course, we have we we have people looking for those updates daily.
01:00:18.500And as far as I've heard, so I've checked the RCMP website or the Twitter account.
01:00:24.500That's typically where they will tweet out any kind of changes or events that are happening at the Coutts border.
01:00:33.200And the last tweet was yesterday basically saying that the highway has been blocked off by protesters in and around that village of Coutts just before the Coutts border.
01:00:46.640I have had confirmation by a couple of the organizers in Coutts who have let me know that, yes, in fact, those lanes are still being blocked at the moment.
01:00:58.900And again, they are hardlining on on their request that all of the vaccine mandates and all of the other health orders be lifted.
01:01:14.220They are planning to stay and keep those lanes blocked until Kenny meets with them and they can come up with with an agreement to see all of the.
01:01:27.780And they did identify the fact that, you know, they saw some movement, obviously, with Kenny's announcement on Tuesday, but it was not enough for them to to sort of pack up and head out of there now.
01:01:42.320So, I'm hearing that lanes are still closed. I have also got an update that RCMP have been handing out tickets to some of the protesters in the area, but that's it so far. There's no other update at this point.
01:02:01.480Great. Well, we'll certainly be watching that very closely. I mean, it's just an ongoing developing story. Was that everything you had in the burner for now? I know you got a lot of phone calls still to make.
01:06:07.320I feel badly for people who relied on bus traffic,
01:06:10.620but no, a bunch of little private ones throughout Alberta, for example,
01:06:14.100are getting around, they're filling the void, they're doing it.
01:06:16.840You know, the world's changing, transportation's changing. Via, train travel like that, you know what, if they can't make the bills, it's just time to stop the lines. That's all there is to it. We can't keep bailing companies out, sick and tired of it, especially companies that don't even service my province. You know, ask your customers, raise your ticket rates. If your service is that good, people will pay for it. If it isn't, bon voyage. It's done. You know, it's not there.
01:06:39.860uh i got a weird one i gotta follow up more on this story i heard a report of the government's
01:06:44.940doing something to enshrine environmental rights as if there's some sort of charter thing you know
01:06:50.660so you'll have your right to environmental protection or something like that really
01:06:53.540bizarre whoop crap which unfortunately is uh typical of our federal government so i'll be
01:07:00.460reporting on that when i see more information on it other efforts on the siege in ottawa and that's0.96
01:07:05.400the best way to put it you know is a siege it's it's they're holding them in there they're trying
01:07:09.800to cut off their supplies they're trying to make them uncomfortable they're trying to make them
01:07:12.300give up and somebody put a notion out in government somewhere of ending traffic around parliament like
01:07:17.080basically banning for a few blocks traffic whatsoever and they think that will fix things
01:07:22.460well for one you still got to move all the ones who are already in there and they're just going
01:07:25.360to protest in a wider circle so i don't think that's a brighter idea or way to do it but they're
01:07:30.900getting desperate over there they really are they don't know how to move these guys out it's like
01:07:33.920john was talking about you know they cut off the fuel and then people are just wandering around
01:07:37.740hundreds of people with jerry cans full of water and then empty and full of diesel full of gasoline
01:07:41.340they can't stop this thing so uh watching that development's been something else uh oh getting
01:07:48.100back to vaccine requirements for staff my area you know my school district out in foothills
01:07:53.680alberta so just south of calgary i live in a little bedroom community pretty just on the edge of town
01:07:57.500and uh they have said uh no we're done with the vaccine requirements uh it's over they they
01:08:03.320responded to Kenny's move and went further and said, we're not going to bother our staff with
01:08:06.860this. We're not going to have this in the school district. It's over, it's done, it's behind us.
01:08:10.640And hopefully that brings more pressure against, you know, more of these school districts and that
01:08:16.480just to say, yeah, let's finish up with this. The kids are getting unmasked on Monday. I'm really
01:08:20.120looking forward to that. I'm sure they're looking forward to that. You know, man, it just, it really
01:08:24.960pains me to see kids masked up like that, to normalize this. I mean, again, there's a reason
01:08:31.180we smile, we communicate with our mouths. It's being lost. I mean, this networking, this bonding,
01:08:36.860this getting together as kids or scrapping you as kids or all the good stuff. And they're growing
01:08:41.980up in this bizarre world of fear of each other and masking and dividing and plastic dividers
01:08:47.120and stuff like that. I mean, they cannot be doing favors for their long-term development. It's
01:08:53.900terrible. And it's going to be lifted on Monday. And of course, some people are freaking out about
01:08:58.120that again we just don't see much evidence that it's going to be a problem but uh cheryl's asking
01:09:05.500what about teachers if they have to wear masks in school yeah i don't know i really don't um again
01:09:10.420that might be school district by school district uh the mask mandates though cheryl i guess for
01:09:15.060adults and everything else i mean yeah it's so confusing with a lot of stuff i mean they're
01:09:19.180remaining in place throughout alberta uh provincially until theoretically the end of
01:09:25.180February, and they might get lifted. And then the big battle is going to come with the cities. I
01:09:28.920mean, that's one thing. Gondek, by the way, you know, getting an update, Dave talked about that.
01:09:33.040Calgary City Council debated keeping the vaccine passports in the city, trying to make a municipal
01:09:39.260regulation to force it to keep happening, even if the province lifted it. And the majority of
01:09:44.940council told her to get stuffed, which was good. The usual hard left suspects, you know, the
01:09:51.380Courtney's and Giancarlo Carra and Gondek herself all wanted to try and find a way to keep
01:09:59.340vaccine passports going in Calgary, but the rest of the council told them, no, that's not our
01:10:03.600business. It's not our problem. Stop it. Edmonton, yeah, Patty Klein, their commenter mentioned that
01:10:08.960Edmonton is trying to do that too. Yes. And they've been more successful. Now that could lead to quite
01:10:12.620a battle between, as I said, the province and the cities. And I'm mixed on it. I like having a degree
01:10:17.880of independence of our municipal governments
01:12:13.700And it was crowded because we're not the only ones who will actually travel 20 minutes a half hour to avoid those uncomfortable, nasty mandates.
01:12:21.320So it's going to hurt Calgary businesses if they keep these mandates in and Edmonton businesses and any town or city that does this because people will go elsewhere.
01:12:31.380Meanwhile, in B.C., we're bringing in tighter mandates for health care workers.
01:12:36.020I mean, it is not consistent across the country.
01:12:38.260Those poor neighbors and cousins of ours in B.C. are having a really hard time.
01:12:42.200Horgan, just cracking down further. And their healthcare workers are going to maintain more,
01:12:49.000it sounds like vaccination mandates, which leaves them work shorthanded, which puts more people at
01:12:52.960risk and just this bad, bad policy we've got going on all over the place. And that frustrating. So,
01:12:59.620you know, one province is doing well, another province does poorly. Reid Small is our reporter
01:13:05.020in BC, by the way, and he's been putting out a lot of stuff. He's our top guy out there. I think