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00:00:30.000 good morning happy february 10th 2022 welcome to triggered i'm cory morgan this is uh the western

00:00:43.360 standards daily live show it'll come to you at 11 30 a.m mountain standard time monday to friday

00:00:49.840 usually goes till about one but we take it as long as we need to if something big is happening

00:00:53.520 we'll run a little long if we've talked about as much as we need to we might run a little short

00:00:57.840 and being live means that you guys can comment we can have some discourse back and forth and

00:01:02.720 i like the comments i like seeing them going i won't always address every one of them but

00:01:07.840 if i get a chance i'll put questions forward to the guests and things like that and i like watching

00:01:11.520 some of the debate between commenters with each other it's some of the fun of being live live

00:01:15.520 comes with a lot of other challenges too some of you regular listeners know we have our occasional

00:01:19.120 bloopers but uh it makes for a fun environment i think to be on so again though keep the comments

00:01:25.280 civil. We don't need to be scrapping with each other on there. We got lots of time to scrap

00:01:29.380 otherwise. So I got a guest today is John Carpe of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms.

00:01:35.660 He's going to bring some updates on their many actions and court challenges. They have a lot on

00:01:41.660 the go. Those guys are always busy on so many things. John's been on a number of times as of

00:01:45.840 other lawyers from the JCCF. Very busy. They've got a lawyer consulting for the Truckers Convoy

00:01:52.780 in Ottawa. They're working with Brian Peckford on a constitutional challenge. It'll be good to see

00:01:58.400 what John is up to. He's a busy man, as are the rest of the lawyers with him. You know, lawyers

00:02:03.520 usually make you cringe, but hey, we do need them. And some of them are fighting some good

00:02:07.700 fights out there for us. I'm going to talk a little bit more about some news a little later

00:02:11.020 with Melanie Risdon, too. She's one of our main reporters here with the Western Standard. You've

00:02:15.740 probably seen her on other shows. She's done some great interviews with others, one with Justin

00:02:19.440 Trudeau that, or not Justin Trudeau, his brother that lots and lots of people have watched. And

00:02:24.540 just to break down a little more of what she's been writing on and some of those stories.

00:02:27.960 I'm going to go on about what I'm worked up about and triggered with today. But before I get there,

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00:03:43.780 read my column, I tell you, I cross my columns with my rants sometimes because it's worth reading

00:03:47.600 and it's worth ranting. So if you've already read it, bear with me on the repeat. It came out last

00:03:52.360 night, but it really did get me triggered and get me going. Calgary's Chamber of Commerce. It's long

00:03:57.360 been in decline as an advocacy organization for business owners. The vitriolic and immediate

00:04:02.680 opposition from the Chamber over the removal of vaccine mandates in Alberta demonstrates just

00:04:07.020 how removed this group is from business reality. Calgary's businesses, like most in Canada,

00:04:12.160 are under terrible pressure due to the pandemic and poor government policies.

00:04:16.800 They need support and positive advocacy from groups like the Chamber of Commerce,

00:04:21.380 and they aren't getting it.

00:04:22.840 Chamber president, Deborah Yedlin, was outraged when Premier Kenney ended the vaccine passport program for Albertans.

00:04:29.440 Yedlin's claiming sales will likely fall as consumers will fear leaving their homes due to the lack of vaccine passports.

00:04:35.700 It should be noted that, as far as I can find, Yedlin's never actually owned or managed a small business,

00:04:40.620 Though she did talk about it a lot as a journalist, and it shows.

00:04:44.240 Yedlin's of that Calgarian elite set who populate roles of prominence in groups that pay well but do little. 0.59

00:04:49.500 Much like Mary Moran with her failed record in running Calgary Economic Development,

00:04:54.020 Yedlin has shown little to no real business acumen in running the Calgary Chamber.

00:04:59.140 One needs to have risked capital and run a business in order to gain that kind of acumen.

00:05:03.220 Roles in these organizations become patronage roles for the connected,

00:05:06.480 and they don't serve the people to whom they should be obliged.

00:05:10.220 To read through the recent tweets from the Calgary Chamber is to take a walk through the absurd world of the woke.

00:05:17.040 One would never guess these were tweets from a business advocacy organization.

00:05:20.920 It would assume they were reading thoughts from a diversity department in some left-wing university.

00:05:27.420 Have a look at some of these things.

00:05:29.000 You know, we get the usual progressive buzzwords in these tweets.

00:05:32.160 And I didn't have to cherry pick. I didn't have to go far.

00:05:34.140 This is the stuff that they just put up in the last few days or their last few tweets.

00:05:37.540 Vibrancy and equity are all packed in there, of course, and they're all nice fluffy concepts to pursue,

00:05:43.320 but they aren't exactly what businesses are concerned about.

00:05:46.400 Businesses are dealing with high taxes, inflation, crime, staffing shortages,

00:05:51.420 and of course the loss of customers due to pandemic restrictions.

00:05:55.300 Meanwhile, the Calgary Chamber of Commerce sounds like it's a branch of City Hall

00:05:58.560 as it promotes everything from bike lanes to transitioning out of oil and gas to equity programs.

00:06:04.200 And don't confuse equity with equality.

00:06:06.920 by the way, Marcel Latouche is going to be coming on tomorrow. He wrote about that, you know, some

00:06:10.740 of that difference in what that concept is. Equality, of course, is very, very important.

00:06:15.800 And we all strive for it. Equity, though, that's a buzzword. That's a loaded one.

00:06:20.740 And that's when you start talking about things like quotas and such. Why on earth is a chamber

00:06:24.800 of commerce pushing this sort of trash? We have a city council and a myriad of other organizations 0.99

00:06:29.840 out there to deal with these woke issues. Businesses need an actual advocate for business.

00:06:34.220 I owned a pub and a restaurant for years. It made money, but it was a tough damn go at the

00:06:38.600 best of times. And that was pre-pandemic. The average margin in the industry is under 5%.

00:06:43.680 It's a sensitive industry and it can't take much more economic abuse. The vaccine passport program

00:06:49.160 wiped out up to 15% of the prospective customer base for restaurants and bars. It also drained 1.00

00:06:55.100 resources as staff had to annoy patrons with code scanning and documentation. These may sound like

00:07:00.120 small hindrances and expenses. But did I mention that industry works on a 5% margin? Yeah, you

00:07:05.380 can't afford to keep dedicating things to this. Yedlin's claiming sales might drop because of

00:07:10.040 people staying home for fear of their safety because of the lack of vaccine passports. What a

00:07:14.500 load of bunk. Omicron proved quite well that vaccines are not that effective in stopping

00:07:18.940 transmission of COVID-19. And again, I mean, they reduce symptoms and people all get mad at me in

00:07:24.400 the comments. I know that. But as far as transmission goes, it's just not the thing.

00:07:27.940 a person's no less safe going out to a restaurant now that the passports are gone than they were in

00:07:32.260 the first place those people who are too terrified to patronize businesses that don't demand proof

00:07:36.580 of vaccination were likely too afraid to leave their homes even when there was a vaccine passport

00:07:40.980 program in place businesses are breathing a collective sigh of relief as the vaccine passport

00:07:46.340 mandate is discontinued customers vote with their feet and wallets and the hospitality sector will

00:07:52.340 enjoy a boon as the 15 of people who hadn't been allowed to dine out for months are going to make

00:07:56.340 up for lost times businesses should start voting with their feet and wallets too they should flee

00:08:01.220 the calgary chamber of commerce as the organization actually has been working against their own

00:08:05.540 interests it should be noted that while we're calgary-based the western standard chose to take

00:08:10.740 out a membership with the strafford chamber of commerce the calgary organization offers little

00:08:14.820 of value to local businesses and you know i went out last night just a side note as i'm done with

00:08:19.300 that uh rant for today my local pub out there in the pretis area with the new owners they were

00:08:24.100 jam-packed last night. I mean, mid-February on a Wednesday, they do okay on Wednesday week nights,

00:08:29.060 but I mean, it was slammed. And I talked with others online too, and I looked, businesses all

00:08:33.920 over Alberta, restaurants were busy as all get out, because all those people have been locked up are

00:08:38.040 now getting out and shopping. So it shows that Yedlin didn't have a bloody clue what she was

00:08:42.620 talking about, and businesses are enjoying that, and the Chamber of Commerce is just way out of

00:08:48.300 touch. Okay, now I'm going to talk to somebody right away who is in touch with a number of

00:08:52.400 things. And that's our news editor, Dave Naylor. We're going to see what he's working on during

00:08:56.600 these crazy news times. Hey, Dave, how's it going over there? Very well, Corey. How are you?

00:09:01.420 Very good. Very good. I like seeing people getting out and dining without having to be

00:09:06.520 hounded at the door with a QR code. I mean, I had mine, but it's still, it's an annoyance and

00:09:10.820 an inconvenience. And there's some friends of mine who can't come out there or weren't able

00:09:14.380 to dine with me anymore. Now they can. Yeah, they were lined up outside the door of my pub last

00:09:19.400 night yeah so what is topping the news for you guys in there today topping the news corey is

00:09:26.880 some breaking news out of ottawa conservative leader candace bergen has just introduced a

00:09:32.540 motion into the house of commons calling on the the federal government to bring in a plan by

00:09:39.440 february 28th on how they're going to lift all the vaccine mandates obviously if the liberals

00:09:45.520 did that and I personally don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of them doing it 0.78

00:09:51.100 but a miracle happens and they did that would certainly go a long way to ending the truckers

00:09:57.160 blockades that have been paralyzing parts of the country so that story is I just published it now

00:10:03.620 before you rudely interrupted me and that's up there on the on the site for readers to

00:10:08.440 to to check out there's no other way to interrupt other than rudely like I did now yes exactly

00:10:15.400 uh the you'll remember cory last canada day there was uh lots of uh gnashing of teeth over the uh

00:10:23.080 the the stories of uh graves being found at indian residential schools well you remember some

00:10:29.640 protesters uh were so angry in manitoba on the grounds of the legislature they uh they toppled

00:10:35.240 over the the statue of queen victoria well after a long investigation manitoba justice officials say

00:10:42.920 okay we're going to let them get away with it uh no charges there so uh that story is up and you

00:10:48.600 can see that on our website uh you remember governor uh gretchen whitmer gretchen whitmer

00:10:55.400 uh corey she's the uh michigan governor who was is doing her darndest to try and shut down

00:11:01.720 the enbridge line five well she's all upset uh over the closures of the ambassador bridge

00:11:08.520 that takes tens of millions of dollars of commerce each way into Canada and the United States

00:11:17.000 on the Ambassador Bridge through Windsor and Detroit. The rolling closures and delays have

00:11:24.120 caused layoffs on both sides of the border now with car manufacturing places ending some shifts

00:11:31.960 early and sending some people home. So she's demanding Canadian authorities, both federally

00:11:37.740 and provincially, get their act together and get it done, get it cleared. We've got another

00:11:45.460 interesting story on Calgary police officer, Brian Dennison. You remember him. He was a 24-year

00:11:53.720 veteran and was forced out of his job because he refused the vaccine mandates. Well, other police

00:12:02.720 officers and other firefighters across the province supported him. And we've got sort of a

00:12:09.320 photo essay on these officers and firefighters holding up signs. They're obscuring their faces,

00:12:16.520 but they're holding up signs with messages about what they think of the vaccine mandate.

00:12:21.380 so that's that's there for the viewers to take a look at that's it for now Corey we've been working

00:12:30.100 on a few bigger things that we'll keep a little secret for this afternoon but that's what's

00:12:35.660 happening now excellent yeah thanks for the update Dave and yeah I know it's a bit of a rude teaser

00:12:40.500 to our viewers and listeners but we do have something big coming up that you're going to be

00:12:43.980 reporting on a little later that'll probably come out this evening and we'll be talking about for

00:12:47.520 quite some time and of course other stuff that we don't even know about yet just as it breaks

00:12:51.680 we're going to be reporting on it with Dave and Eva and Mel and Reed and boy Amber that's a real

00:12:57.220 growing crowd of people we got out there keeping up with all this news right now we do indeed we're

00:13:02.540 doing about 20 to 25 stories a day which is just as much as any of those big mainstream media outlets

00:13:09.260 and we do it better great thanks Dave I will talk to you later take care Corey great and yeah you

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00:13:30.160 Some of the alternative sites are getting going, and all they do is sort of cut and paste press releases to make stories, which is fine.

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00:14:36.280 the whole thing has been vaccine mandates some of the things are starting to crumble a little bit

00:14:40.520 And I think, you know, it's, well, I don't think, I know it's good.

00:14:44.020 People have been fed up.

00:14:45.200 I mean, yes, we've been concerned about our health.

00:14:47.300 You know, you think of two years ago now, we were just starting to kind of get the rumblings

00:14:50.820 of something going on, but still it seemed unbelievable that, you know, we were even

00:14:54.040 saying in hushed tones that the government might shut businesses down for a week or two.

00:14:58.700 You know, this might last for a couple of months.

00:15:01.740 Well, here we are, almost two years in and fighting our way out.

00:15:05.800 a lot of that truth about how, again, you give your rights away to the government, you have to

00:15:12.120 always fight to get them back. They jealously hang on to them. They do not want to give them back to

00:15:17.380 you. And it's up to us and others, you know, as John, I'll be talking to in a little bit here too,

00:15:23.700 and in legal actions and protesters, or even as Dave was saying, you know, some other supportive

00:15:28.460 people holding up signs and protesting against the vaccination mandates. It doesn't mean you're

00:15:33.500 anti-vaccination. You know, I'm getting tired of that discussion. It means you're tired of the

00:15:38.320 mandates. I, again, I have no issues with being vaccinated. I'm comfortable with it. I think it

00:15:44.940 was a good idea for myself, but I fully respect another person's choice not to be. And this

00:15:50.240 coercion of trying to force other people, you know, and they keep saying, we're not forcing you.

00:15:56.180 Well, let's see, all you're going to do is take away their job, take away their ability to travel,

00:16:01.020 take away perhaps their children's ability to play in sports, have them socially ostracized,

00:16:06.420 as we see with a prime minister who has just unforgivably been going after people who have

00:16:13.280 chosen not to be vaccinated. Yeah, that is coercion and that's sick and it's wrong. You

00:16:20.160 don't get people to do something that way. You educate, you discuss, you debate, and then you

00:16:27.120 respect the choice if the person chose otherwise. You know, I'm more likely to do things such as

00:16:33.380 take part in a vaccination when I'm asked to. When you tell me to, then my heels dig in,

00:16:37.640 then my hackles get up. I don't like being told what to do on anything, much less something as

00:16:43.160 intrusive as a vaccination. You know, some people compare to, well, it's like a drug test to get to

00:16:47.640 work. Look, I peed in a lot of cups while I was in the oil field, and that's still not nearly as

00:16:52.420 intrusive as having a medication injected into you. Don't try to compare them. They are not the

00:16:56.860 same at all. And people are pushing back, you know, businesses, companies are starting to back

00:17:03.000 off on their mandates. They're realizing they need their employees. And I hope they can

00:17:06.040 regain their relationships with them after these, you know, this loss of trust, in my view, between

00:17:12.900 them. When private businesses brought in mandate, it hurt themselves. And we need to have these

00:17:19.900 discussions and it's opening up, you know, let's be respectful. We can get out of this mess. But

00:17:24.960 as I said too, a lot of it we're going to have to fight for. We're seeing things dropping in

00:17:29.200 Alberta, which is great, you know, and Saskatchewan. They're talking about it in Quebec.

00:17:33.800 BC, on the other hand, is diving in deeper. So we got a long ways to go and there's a lot of

00:17:39.000 battles in the works. And on the legal front is another one. And I'm going to have John Carpe on

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00:18:53.500 rights now on to another lawyer it's so rare when i like talking to lawyers honestly but john's a

00:18:59.500 great one i mean because he's fighting for our rights and it couples with everything else if

00:19:04.500 people like the justice center for constitutional freedoms aren't out there fighting for our

00:19:07.900 freedoms we're gonna lose them or actually gonna they're gonna remain lost so i appreciate john's

00:19:12.560 work and i'm always happy to have him back on the show so let's bring him in here and get an update

00:19:17.120 on all those actions. Hi, John, you're a busy guy. I really appreciate when you can come on with us.

00:19:21.780 Glad to be with you. So, I mean, it's hard to even say where to begin with what you guys have

00:19:28.080 got going on. You know, it's almost a shotgun approach. I did want to talk to somebody. You've

00:19:33.180 got that challenge that made a lot of news, for example, with Brian Peckford involved, who's a

00:19:37.200 very historic Canadian, you know, a signatory of the original charter, and now he's questioning

00:19:42.920 the charter. How's that moving along, I guess, if you start there? Well, the papers have been

00:19:48.780 filed in court. And unfortunately, the sad reality of our legal system in Canada is that

00:19:55.560 it takes years for any court action to move forward, months if you're lucky.

00:20:03.360 That's a whole other big topic that we can't fix that today. But we actually have too few

00:20:08.360 courts, we have too few judges, because it should not take months and years for when

00:20:14.660 constitutional rights and freedoms are being violated. It's not right that we have to wait

00:20:20.100 for years for a decision. But we do have the court action filed in federal court. We're also going to

00:20:27.300 be acting for Maxine Bernier, the leader of the People's Party of Canada, who is also challenging

00:20:33.880 the federal vaccine mandates for air travel. And we are representing some of the leaders

00:20:42.120 of the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa. So far, you know, police were confiscating fuel from citizens that

00:20:52.840 were delivering fuel to the truckers. Of course, it's winter in Canada, it's cold, you need the

00:20:57.820 fuel so you don't freeze to death. And unfortunately, the police were illegally, in our view,

00:21:04.680 illegally taking fuel on this very flimsy pretext that delivering fuel to the truckers 0.87

00:21:12.240 was assisting criminal activity, which is ridiculous. But the truckers and their supporters

00:21:19.180 have responded. I'm told that everybody in Ottawa is now carrying a jerry can of empty or with water

00:21:27.360 or with fuel nobody knows and everybody's carrying a jerry cam and so it's become impossible for the

00:21:33.460 police to try to confiscate fuel uh because everybody's carrying a jerry cam yeah i've seen

00:21:40.420 some of those videos you know look them up folks they're kind of again i mean it's a serious issue

00:21:44.520 but they're addressing it in sort of a fun way i i think they're kind of there was one video playing

00:21:49.500 that music from the thomas crown affair because they're showing all these people wandering

00:21:52.520 everywhere with jerry cans and if people know that movie you know there was a guy kind of in

00:21:55.820 disguise amongst many other people dressed the same. You can't pick out which one's the real

00:21:59.940 one and which isn't. And it also indicates that those protesters are just, they're not going to

00:22:05.700 back off. You keep blocking one avenue and they're going to find another. They're very determined.

00:22:10.600 Well, the smear campaign continues as well by the Ottawa police chief, Peter Slowly,

00:22:15.860 trying to describe these peaceful protesters as dangerous, violent criminals, engaging in

00:22:23.980 unlawful conduct. And if any of that was true, the establishment media or the government-funded

00:22:30.960 media would gleefully report on that ad nauseum. But what we've got are some very peaceful people.

00:22:38.880 One of the truckers released a video. I'm not sure if he was a client of ours or not. Obviously,

00:22:44.740 there's hundreds of people there, so we don't pretend to be representing everybody.

00:22:49.840 but one of the truckers made mention of what has been said to the Ottawa police is that if you

00:22:57.620 arrest one of the truckers and make force him to sign a statement saying I will leave Ottawa and

00:23:05.260 not come back for the next six months or whatever for every trucker that is arrested and forced to

00:23:11.060 leave three truckers will come into Ottawa and so police have been told if you start arresting

00:23:17.140 truckers, it's going to increase the number of truckers in Ottawa. And so my understanding is

00:23:23.080 that the number of arrests has been pretty small. And the Justice Centre has also set up a network

00:23:30.260 of criminal defence counsel to assist the truckers if anybody is arrested or threatened with arrest.

00:23:38.460 Well, that's good to know and appreciate it because, I mean, the people on the ground,

00:23:41.920 these aren't professional regular activists. I mean, they don't know what to do. They're good

00:23:46.280 law-abiding citizens. They haven't been arrested. You don't even know where to start if you've

00:23:50.480 suddenly been, find yourself incarcerated, you know, where do you get a lawyer? So to know you

00:23:54.880 guys are providing that resource to make sure that they have their rights, you know, spoken up for

00:23:59.020 and defended is important and appreciated. And it's interesting in pointing out too, yes, that

00:24:04.580 initiative, you know, if you're going to arrest one, you're going to get three more. And I can

00:24:07.560 believe it. I mean, when they shut down the fundraising on one end, a new one sprung up

00:24:11.420 and they raised even more, like maybe, hopefully this government's going to realize that you've

00:24:15.640 got to approach this with something other than a hammer, because all you're doing is making it

00:24:18.780 bigger. I noticed as well, and the Justice Centre is non-partisan, as you know, but I noticed that

00:24:26.140 at least one political party in the House of Commons seems to be finally coming around to

00:24:32.260 a pro-freedom position. There seems to be a shift in the Conservative Party. And again,

00:24:37.380 we're non-partisan, but I would say the more parties that are pro-freedom and pro-charter

00:24:44.140 pro-charter freedoms, the better. So if there's one party moving in that direction, maybe others

00:24:50.140 will follow. It was also really encouraging. I'm told that it's not just one, but two liberal

00:24:56.560 members of parliament are speaking out for an end to these very unscientific

00:25:03.300 mandates that discriminate without any medical basis against people that are not getting

00:25:10.680 the COVID shots. Yeah, that most definitely is encouraging. I mean, you know, I know we get 0.67

00:25:16.840 frustrated with politicians and we take our partisan side sometimes, but I mean, the Liberal

00:25:21.400 Party, don't assume that every member is, you know, unscrupulous. A lot of them have some

00:25:25.640 dedications to principles and they, as much as you've got a tightly wound up party there,

00:25:30.960 the cracks are showing some of them are coming out and speaking independently of the Prime

00:25:35.240 Minister. And I think that's a fantastic development. It shows there has to be at

00:25:39.440 some discussion going on behind closed doors that they got to get out of this.

00:25:43.000 Well, that's the way that our democracy is supposed to function. The system right now,

00:25:47.540 and this is not a criticism of Trudeau's government per se, because it's been a problem

00:25:53.920 for decades. But the way it's supposed to function is that you have a government with a cabinet and

00:26:01.220 the executive is separate from the legislative so that it shouldn't really make headlines if

00:26:08.260 a member of parliament even of the governing party uh speaks out his or her opinion speaks

00:26:14.260 out for their constituents uh that should be par for the course and it's really a departure from

00:26:20.360 the constitutional norms when we've got power so centralized in the prime minister's office

00:26:27.120 to the point where uh legislative and executive are practically blended together that is not the

00:26:33.920 way it's supposed to be. Yeah. And it is, you know, if it worked correctly, I mean, we see it

00:26:40.200 in the United States, for example, I mean, their system isn't perfect, but you often see senators

00:26:44.340 crossing party lines on bills and subjects. And it's so much more important to have that broader

00:26:49.120 discussion. And unfortunately, we've morphed into such a whipped system that you rarely see

00:26:53.880 deviation from the party line. So seeing a little more of that happening is great. So getting a

00:26:59.920 little bit back to Ottawa, Cheryl, one of our commenters brought up, you know, with the horn

00:27:03.240 honking, for example, they've criminalized horn honking. Does that come under the traffic? Would

00:27:08.200 that be a traffic ticket issue for somebody or are they being charged? It's just bizarre almost

00:27:12.700 on the stuff that they're trying to do to shut things down there. Well, it's terrible the way

00:27:17.600 that they, the Ottawa police, and, you know, I don't know if they're taking their marching orders

00:27:23.180 from the Trudeau government or, you know, certainly Premier Ford in Ontario is not yet

00:27:31.360 supportive of the peaceful protest. But regardless of what's causing it, the Ottawa

00:27:37.420 police have been suggesting that there's criminal activity taking place. The establishment media,

00:27:44.740 the government funded media are reporting these allegations as though true. The truth of the

00:27:50.620 matter is that there probably are parking infractions. And I think Ottawa police can

00:27:58.220 legitimately issue parking tickets to truckers that are parked illegally you probably have some

00:28:04.680 traffic violations but to suggest that this is criminal that is it's it's outrageous and and it's

00:28:13.000 it just shows a lack of integrity a lack of interest in in truth so there's no crimes being

00:28:18.860 committed I'm told that some of the truckers or a lot of them are ceasing some of the truckers are

00:28:26.020 no longer honking their horns. What they're going to do instead is announce political statements or

00:28:33.960 play music through amplification. And the judge in the interim ruling had said, well, honking your

00:28:41.420 horn is pretty mindless. It's not really expressive. It's going to become quite different

00:28:46.180 if people are using amplification to express political opinions. It is a lot harder to shut

00:28:52.600 that down well that would be more definitely distinctively a form of expression i remember

00:28:58.240 and it seemed to work in some cases we're going back to the occupy guys but they painted slogans

00:29:03.000 on their tents and then that they they had at least the dubious claim though of saying well

00:29:07.480 my tent is a form of expression now and and it is charter protected so so you can't uh take my tent

00:29:13.560 down and and yes i mean if a trucker is expressing their feelings their thoughts their point of view

00:29:19.520 It's not as mindless as perhaps the judge thought was honking a horn,

00:29:22.820 but it's still going to be loud and perhaps annoy some of those folks in apartments nearby.

00:29:28.480 And we're told also that the city of Ottawa might be planning to bring a court application

00:29:35.040 for an injunction to remove the truckers.

00:29:38.280 And if so, we've got our lawyers on the ground and we'll defend against that.

00:29:43.300 and that should be very interesting as well because they're going to have to back that up

00:29:49.460 with evidence and we definitely intend to cross-examine affiants if they are making

00:29:55.960 you know vague claims or baseless claims we'll be cross-examining those affiants

00:30:01.520 yeah well and it's good because I mean again we've got inexperienced people over there and

00:30:06.740 you guys have a kind of an advisory presence on the ground out there with some of the organizers

00:30:11.160 i believe and and you know those organizers i i i know one of them and you know they're

00:30:15.240 these aren't regular protesters so i mean getting good advice and trying to hold this together

00:30:19.360 is is really important for them i think they have probably feeling a little overwhelmed or even

00:30:23.280 scared and in this circumstance and uh uh it's hard to to hold your ground or try to come to a

00:30:28.780 positive resolution if you don't have some more advice so how's that been going in discussions

00:30:32.840 with those people out there well there are different there are different groups different

00:30:37.400 individuals, different coalitions. And from what I can gather is there's a unity there and there's

00:30:46.660 a cooperation there. So even though there are different groups, I mean, there's no person

00:30:52.200 really that speaks on behalf of all of the truckers. They are all independent contractors.

00:30:59.080 They're not employees. They're private businessmen. They're used to running their

00:31:05.200 own affairs, doing things their own way. But this is really an organic grassroots movement. I mean,

00:31:12.960 so many things are just happening organically, where, you know, fuel continues to be supplied

00:31:19.700 to the truckers, food continues to be supplied to the truckers. And there's a great deal,

00:31:27.120 you know, human nature being what it is, there's always, you know, egos that will clash and people

00:31:32.540 that will disagree and that's all well and good. But the overriding thing that's happening there

00:31:37.560 is great harmony, great unity amongst all the people there. And there is a serious determination

00:31:43.320 to stay. And, you know, until, well, I guess different truckers will decide individually

00:31:51.460 what is good enough, you know, for them to leave. Maybe some truckers will leave

00:31:56.880 if the federal rules are changed, other truckers might stay longer. And, you know, until we see

00:32:04.180 more change in the provinces, because really, the provinces collectively are inflicting far

00:32:11.440 more harm, I think, than what the federal government is. Yeah, no, it's put them certainly

00:32:18.460 in a rock and a hard place, too. And again, I mean, as we keep noting, and for a decentralized,

00:32:23.300 truly organic movement like this, it's been amazingly well behaved. There haven't been

00:32:27.860 crazed outlying groups taken off. You know, it's been very peaceful. I went to one of the protests

00:32:33.120 and I'd gone to a number of other ones that were, I think the earlier ones are a little rougher.

00:32:37.720 The last one was fantastic. I've never seen such a congenial attitude at what's supposed to be

00:32:42.240 a protest. And I'm hearing that from all of these all over the place. So this

00:32:45.400 mischaracterization of these people as being prospective violent criminals is almost criminal

00:32:50.600 itself, in my view. It's, yeah, you know, at the risk of excessive rhetoric, it's almost criminal

00:32:58.480 to twist peaceful protest. And Trudeau also at one point tried to compare these peaceful

00:33:09.060 protesters in Ottawa as though they are like the January 6th American insurrectionists who stormed

00:33:17.340 capitol building and that's just completely false it's completely outrageous uh there's no

00:33:24.220 intention uh whatsoever of anybody in ottawa to to storm the parliament buildings or anything else

00:33:31.420 the other interesting thing uh trudeau tries to suggest that uh you know these are these are all

00:33:37.020 racists and white supremacists uh i'm told that true north media has a uh has a huge reward

00:33:45.900 available, I forget the number of it, for anybody who can identify the person that was carrying a

00:33:52.500 swastika flag last week. And I suspect it's a Liberal Party plant that had that go out there

00:34:02.640 just to discredit the protesters, because there's this great anonymity there, and it seems nobody

00:34:09.020 can identify the person that was carrying that flag. Yeah, and it never made it into the protest

00:34:14.000 itself. I see Nico brought up pictures of that, you know, just strangely was displayed around the

00:34:18.040 outside and vanished. And actually the Western Standard offered to kick in another thousand

00:34:22.960 towards that reward as did Brett Wilson and who we had on the show to talk about that. So

00:34:26.720 somebody could pocket a good, I think it's five or maybe even $7,000 if they can prove

00:34:30.880 who that person was. So, you know, if you want to make a few bucks, you know, get ahold of Candice

00:34:35.940 or us or Brett and we'll certainly, you know, see what the root of all that was. And surprisingly,

00:34:40.980 we haven't found anybody yet. So just one more thing before we go though, with the other protests

00:34:48.460 that have been springing up, I mean, they're a little more problematic almost in Windsor and

00:34:51.960 Cootes and it's a border blockage on and off again. Have you guys been in communication with

00:34:56.300 those groups at all or is that independent right now? Well, I'm sure they have counsel. I believe

00:35:02.480 that Chad Williamson is acting for some of the truckers down in Cootes here in Alberta.

00:35:10.980 Um, the justice center is not involved with the Coutts or Windsor truckers.

00:35:15.420 So I, I don't have any comment on that at all.

00:35:19.120 Yeah, no, fair enough.

00:35:20.460 I always just want to, cause that is kind of a, uh, it's a different challenge in itself.

00:35:23.580 I mean, it's all related in a sense, but that puts a heck of a lot more immediate pressure

00:35:27.060 on, on governments and authorities.

00:35:28.900 Cause it's really putting a lot of economic and trade pressure on some areas.

00:35:32.240 I mean, those are busy crossings.

00:35:33.400 And, uh, I, I just personally worry a little more.

00:35:36.140 I hate, I do not want to see enforcement start happening cause that's when people get hurt.

00:35:40.340 So I'm just hoping reasonable minds can continue on this as they have so far.

00:35:45.240 One of the interesting things in Ottawa, some of the rhetoric is about how people feel like they say that they feel confined to their own house, right? 0.74

00:35:59.380 Which is ridiculous.

00:36:01.160 I've heard from many people in Ottawa, you can walk through the city anywhere you want.

00:36:06.540 this is not like some occupation zone like what Antifa did last year or the year before with a

00:36:13.500 section of Washington state there was a city there where Antifa put up the you know basically

00:36:20.340 occupied a section of the city in Ottawa you can walk around anywhere and yet you have people

00:36:25.760 complaining about being confined to their house and they want to get back to normal they say

00:36:32.260 But I find it very ironic. We've had almost two years of violations of our charter freedoms by way of lockdowns. And every time I hear this, I think, have you been complaining the last two years about being locked in your house and not being able to enjoy life normally, live life normally, hang out with friends, have your parents over for Christmas dinner?

00:36:56.540 you know, and now you're complaining about truckers making it sound as if this is like

00:37:04.040 lockdowns. I mean, any inconvenience that the truckers are imposing in Ottawa is a fraction

00:37:11.880 of the hardships that have been inflicted on Canadians by lockdowns in the past two years.

00:37:18.280 Yeah, there was a big irony of one statement out of Prime Minister Trudeau when he said something

00:37:22.780 along the lines of, they have no right to interfere in the ability of Canadians to move

00:37:28.700 around or make a living or things like that. And as others have pointed out, well, that's

00:37:33.660 exactly what you've been doing for two years now. What are you talking about? But it really

00:37:38.520 demonstrates that gross double standard. So I guess in wrapping up, you guys are doing

00:37:43.560 great work. Where can people find you and support or keep track of your actions? Because

00:37:48.580 I know you've got a whole bunch of others not even related to the Convoy stuff. You

00:37:51.380 guys are always very busy uh where can people look you up so justice center for constitutional

00:37:57.000 freedoms uh www.jccf f as in freedoms.ca and uh sign up we we send out a newsletter once every

00:38:07.040 three weeks uh called justice update so if you go to our website sign up for our free newsletter

00:38:13.220 and you'll get an update once every three weeks uh and if you want to donate uh we are a registered

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00:38:26.420 coast we're funded entirely by voluntary donations that makes it possible for the lawyers to provide

00:38:34.340 free of charge legal representation to all of these clients across canada great well thank

00:38:40.660 you very much for the work you do john and thanks for taking the time to come on and update us with

00:38:44.500 it it's always appreciated when you come on the show so i'll let you get back to work there on

00:38:49.060 your important stuff and I hope we get to talk again soon. Okay, have a great day. Thanks for

00:38:53.420 having me on your show. Great. Thanks, John. So yes, just in reviewing, that was John Carpe of

00:38:58.560 the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. And these guys have just been fantastic throughout

00:39:03.960 this. As I said, they've got a lot of other stuff. If you go to their website, challenges on the go

00:39:08.340 and things all over the place besides the convoy stuff and their ability to keep up with it like

00:39:13.220 this has been striking. I saw some of the comment scrolls actually. Yeah, and at Corey B. Morgan,

00:39:18.280 I'll throw the plug for myself on Twitter if you want to interact with me.

00:39:21.820 That's a great place for it.

00:39:22.780 Not during the show, of course.

00:39:23.820 I'm busy, but it's a good way to reach me.

00:39:26.900 I interact a lot on there.

00:39:28.220 I enjoy it.

00:39:28.780 I know it's a little rough and tumble, but that's where I spout out my best sarcasm and vitriol.

00:39:33.840 I noticed somebody else commenting, seeing apparently Andrew Coyne had referred to protesters as yobbs.

00:39:41.140 Now, I believe, and I could be wrong with this, one of my former marriage was an English woman,

00:39:47.740 And, and, uh, the term yobs and yabos, I think was used quite often for skinhead type people.

00:39:53.840 Um, and, and, you know, that sort of racist, uh, rough looking sort of individual is an

00:39:59.640 English thing.

00:40:00.680 Uh, it doesn't, I don't know if Coyne actually said that or not.

00:40:04.600 I didn't see it, but it wouldn't surprise me the elitism out of him.

00:40:07.960 I mean, talk about, uh, such a, I watched some of his panel interviews and things, you

00:40:13.020 know, and I mean, he's a, he's a great columnist.

00:40:14.940 He's been around a long time, but boy, you know, he shows that established media snottiness and, uh, you know, just, just high horse dismissal of, uh, the unwashed and to hear him say a term like that, if, if that's what he said, I can certainly believe it.

00:40:32.380 That would be right up the sort of thing you would say.

00:40:34.480 It's just another high horse dismissive way to say that these underlings, these unwashed

00:40:39.700 people shouldn't be out there standing up for themselves like this and we shouldn't

00:40:44.960 pay serious attention to them.

00:40:46.700 And I mean, that's where the establishment media is now.

00:40:50.700 That's where the legacy media is.

00:40:52.300 They are an institution that's broken.

00:40:55.620 It's sick and it's wrong.

00:40:57.760 and it's just not giving us responsible,

00:41:01.760 decent coverage on these events as they go.

00:41:04.240 Somebody's saying, yeah, you know,

00:41:06.060 Laurie's saying she saw it on a panel with Rosemary Barton,

00:41:09.640 which, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me, old Rosie there. 0.77

00:41:11.580 You want to look up a funny video of Rosemary Barton, 0.92

00:41:15.100 you can find one.

00:41:16.100 I think Rebel put it together,

00:41:17.440 but she had a one-on-one walking interview

00:41:20.260 with Justin Trudeau where they walked down the street

00:41:22.240 and chatted and things.

00:41:23.500 It's very nice.

00:41:24.340 But they played some music to go with it and made it look like a romantic walk.

00:41:29.720 And you know what?

00:41:30.100 When you'd see those shots, she'd sort of coo at them and bat her eyes and simper around.

00:41:35.320 This is the news head of CBC, the main news desk, the political one.

00:41:39.400 And yeah, she's got a serious crush on the prime minister.

00:41:42.040 So it does make it difficult to get critical discourse on CBC, the government state arm of media there,

00:41:49.920 when their political head loses her voice

00:41:54.580 and gets all Twitter-pated if she talks to the Prime Minister at any time.

00:41:58.260 But that's who they've got there.

00:41:59.400 But what do you expect?

00:42:00.080 I mean, the Liberals give them $1.5 billion a year 0.97

00:42:02.020 to put that trash out that they do. 0.89

00:42:05.100 So again, that reminder, independent media, Western Standard.

00:42:07.860 Thank you for your support, guys.

00:42:09.800 And on a late note, I'm going to play a video for a second

00:42:11.980 because I like to get a little something funny.

00:42:14.240 There's some great videos out there on the internet.

00:42:16.280 This is one demonstrating human intellect in general

00:42:19.520 in comparison to the wildlife world.

00:42:23.400 So check this out and let's chat

00:42:24.620 and I'll explain why I tend to be so cynical so often.

00:42:49.520 Now it's videos like that, that sometimes make me lose a little faith in humanity and I wonder

00:43:17.040 if there's any hope at all to save it or, you know, we should just let it die out and let the

00:43:22.960 Ravens take over. Clearly they have more ability and common sense than some of our travelers. I

00:43:27.900 wouldn't be shocked to find out if that gentleman who couldn't figure out how to put his bag in the

00:43:31.400 upper bin was perhaps a senior civil servant in Ottawa. He almost looks a little bit like

00:43:36.420 Gerald Butts, actually. But either way, I like, I love videos. If you've got good videos, memes,

00:43:43.000 things like that, you know, send them my way. We can play these things on the show. That's the neat

00:43:46.580 thing with new media. You can put messages across and still have some fun with them.

00:43:50.880 So yeah, send them to cmorgan at westernstandardonline.com or send them to me through

00:43:55.820 Twitter. The other thing, I can't play videos, of course, if they've got licensed music in them. So

00:44:00.760 we do have to watch for those things or suddenly we get those copyright strikes. Fair enough. It's

00:44:04.940 their property. Lots of news, you know, aside from the Ravens and other such things. So something

00:44:11.780 that was referenced earlier, yeah, these cracks appearing in the liberal armor with Eve

00:44:15.940 Robillard. I'm terrible with French pronunciations, but he's a member of parliament

00:44:19.460 and he agreed with his Quebec colleague, Joel Lightbound, in saying that Prime Minister Justin

00:44:25.700 Trudeau's pandemic policies are out of control, they're unsustainable, they're unreasonable. And

00:44:31.460 it's very significant. As John Carpe was talking about that before, when you see liberal members

00:44:36.580 of parliament breaking ranks, they're different. Conservatives are a lot more outspoken. We're

00:44:40.440 more inclined. That's part of why we fight like hornets with each other more often than we fight

00:44:44.000 with the government sometimes when we're in opposition,

00:44:46.680 but liberals keep a tight ship.

00:44:48.080 These guys tend to stay bound up together.

00:44:51.840 And when you see MPs breaking ranks,

00:44:54.020 that means there's a lot going on behind closed doors

00:44:56.380 and there's pressure building.

00:44:57.900 And as much as it's important for opposition

00:45:00.840 and legal pressure to come in,

00:45:01.760 we need pressure to get out of these restrictions

00:45:03.620 and this loss of our rights from all sorts of directions.

00:45:06.620 But of course, the most effective one

00:45:08.280 will be in the party in power itself.

00:45:10.400 So when we see liberal members of parliament

00:45:14.000 actually standing up against the prime minister. That is a big thing. It's a big indication.

00:45:20.980 And let's hope we see more of it. Cheryl Singh, why is Candace flip-flopping on the protesters? 1.00

00:45:25.640 I'm not sure. I didn't see that. At least though Candace Bergen, the interim leader for the 0.96

00:45:30.300 Conservative Party has been outspoken and saying, end the mandates now. Get it done with. Pull these

00:45:36.220 things down. They're not pussyfooting around. They're not giving mealy mouth talk like O'Toole 1.00

00:45:40.260 had been. So, I mean, you know, we'll see that party's in a state of flux, of course, with a

00:45:45.020 leadership race coming right now. But it's, again, a good development to see more and more of this

00:45:51.760 open pressure, people openly saying, and the mandates. It's not just activists, it's not just

00:45:56.120 lawyers. Now it's elected officials in opposition and in the government in power. I won't hold my

00:46:01.500 breath. I'm waiting on one of Jagmeet's people to say something like that because they just hate

00:46:05.900 individual freedoms. It's just not in their nature to stand up for it. But if we see more

00:46:10.780 Liberals coming out, we might see an end to some of this. So let's look at positive developments

00:46:15.160 where we can. Unfortunately, a lot of them are also like the fellow who was trying to stick his

00:46:18.980 luggage in the upstairs compartment. I'm sure Justin would have the same problem if he didn't

00:46:23.600 have servants to take care of it for him when he travels as well. But we are seeing the cracks,

00:46:28.900 the things are happening. Another thing from the Prime Minister's office, and there's some

00:46:34.500 interesting stories going out in different news outlets. And we're going to have some special

00:46:39.420 coming out soon with the Western Standard, just a bit of a teaser, on the Afghan evacuation. We've

00:46:44.360 got Linda Slavodian's been working really hard on a production for that, and I'm really looking

00:46:49.240 forward to it. It's going to be coming out in a bit. But related to that, the Prime Minister's

00:46:52.880 office, there's some leaked emails that came out, told one of the Liberal MPs to mind his own

00:46:57.880 business on the Afghan evacuation. This was weeks before the Taliban took over Kabul and took

00:47:04.840 control of Afghanistan again, weeks beforehand. And there was a member of parliament pleading

00:47:09.340 with the prime minister's office and others saying, get these translators out of there,

00:47:13.360 get these embassy staff out of there. We've got a pending disaster here. We have to save

00:47:18.600 these people and their families who've been helping Canadians, Canadian soldiers and efforts

00:47:23.180 over in Afghanistan. And he actually got responses from the prime minister's office telling him to

00:47:29.120 mind his own business and stay out of it. And then look what happened. A disaster. Those people were

00:47:35.100 left. It's heartbreaking when you see those pictures, when you see them standing literally

00:47:38.700 in sewage, trying to hold papers to get the attention of soldiers saying, please get me out

00:47:42.800 of here. I was a Canadian, you know, I was helping Canadian soldiers over there. And of course that

00:47:47.580 exposes them to the Taliban and a lot of them have been captured and they're suffering horrible

00:47:50.820 fates. And for the prime minister's office to know him about that weeks beforehand, and to tell

00:47:55.860 their own member of parliament to mind his own business when he was trying to warn them of this.

00:48:01.220 Unforgivable. Totally unforgivable. These are things we got to keep bringing up too. We can't

00:48:06.920 let the convoy overpower and overrun every other issue that's going on. We have a sick, sick 0.98

00:48:14.120 liberal government, and they sacrificed these poor people in Afghanistan. And there's still 0.98

00:48:18.540 ones stuck over there who were facing terrible risk, all for taking the chance and trusting

00:48:23.900 Canadians over there and helping them out through translation and even just working

00:48:28.580 in the embassies and things like that. And then we just abandoned them. And it's just

00:48:32.080 an embarrassment for us. It really is. And so seeing those emails leaking really again

00:48:37.180 shows that mindset of that federal government and the value they have for human life and

00:48:42.700 our own reputation. It's awful.

00:48:44.740 So before I get to, I'm going to go back to Melanie Risden to talk here for a check-in

00:48:51.080 because she's working on so much new stuff all the time.

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00:50:02.720 Mel in to do some rambling on all that news work she's always doing out there. Hey, Melanie, 1.00

00:50:06.480 how you doing? Good. How are you? Very good. So yes, this is Melanie Risden. I'm sure a lot of

00:50:11.580 our viewers have already seen her because boy, you've done some video interviews that have just

00:50:15.200 gone viral and ballistic, particularly the one with Justin Trudeau's half-brother,

00:50:20.880 but all sorts of other ones. They're always popping up on our channels. So good to get you

00:50:25.280 on my show. Yeah. Well, happy to be here. So you wanted to talk about some of the stories that

00:50:31.580 that I've been working on over the last day or two or today so one of them I thought we would

00:50:38.240 dive into the fact that I mean obviously everyone is aware of the announcement Kenny made two days

00:50:46.260 ago basically bringing forward a plan to kind of phase out the restrictions and the mandates and

00:50:57.420 starting with the restriction exemption program or the vaccine passports.

00:51:01.960 Those are those are basically gone as we speak in Alberta.

00:51:07.060 And then there are other things, other mandates and restrictions

00:51:11.320 that are going to be slowly phased out.

00:51:13.660 And one of the responses to that was from the Minister of Advanced Education,

00:51:19.920 who put out a letter

00:51:22.660 to the post-secondary institutions basically saying

00:51:26.480 we are expecting the institutions to come in line with what the Alberta government is planning

00:51:36.480 and the timeline that they are planning for relaxing these mandates.

00:51:42.220 And it looks like, you know, I actually put a story out yesterday

00:51:46.000 and followed up with some of the major post-secondary institutions in Alberta

00:51:51.140 just to get an idea of where they stand.

00:51:53.500 Now, I reached out to these post-secondary institutions before the letter from the education minister or the advanced education minister came out.

00:52:06.020 But most of them were basically saying they are going to sort of stay the same status quo.

00:52:11.580 They are still going to implement the vaccine passport in the schools.

00:52:16.760 So requiring students and staff to show proof of vaccination to be able to access campuses.

00:52:22.360 and keeping up with mask mandates and whatnot until they review the safety that this will

00:52:32.300 have, the effect to the safety of students and staff on site. So none of the institutions that

00:52:42.400 I received statements from yesterday, including Mount Royal University, SAIT, University of

00:52:49.700 Calgary, U of A, and University of Lethbridge. None of them plan to make any changes to their

00:52:58.560 policy yet. However, we did hear that the university or the school in Red Deer, sorry,

00:53:10.940 I'm just trying to find my notes. The Polytech, yes, thank you, has lifted the restrictions.

00:53:19.700 and the vaccine, the mandatory vaccine policy. So those have gone away. But our news editor,

00:53:28.020 Dave Naylor says he has a source that is hearing that some post-secondary institutions may push

00:53:36.260 back against the relaxing of these mandates. So yeah, this could be a quite a challenge,

00:53:43.540 you know, I mean, and it is complicated. Like we get the chancellors of the universities and such,

00:53:48.740 and we do want them to maintain some degree of independence from government but at the same time

00:53:52.820 these are tax funded institutions so the government has I believe a right and ability to at least

00:53:58.340 oversee and perhaps occasionally intervene on their behavior if they're deviating away from

00:54:03.060 what's expected as an institution that hey is getting their bread buttered from the taxpayers

00:54:07.700 definitely yeah so we do plan to follow up with that and in fact I I do plan to reach back out to

00:54:14.260 the institutions again and just find out if they have a different statement now that the

00:54:20.740 minister of advanced education has put that letter out sort of encouraging but also expecting

00:54:28.260 with the expectation that these post-secondary institutions are going to follow the directives

00:54:33.700 that are coming down from the alberta government so we will certainly be following that over the

00:54:38.980 course of the next few weeks it looks like it is march 1st um that they are expecting students to

00:54:46.260 be able to return with uh with no hindrance to their to their access to in-person learning uh

00:54:54.500 masking things like that so um yeah so we'll be following that through the month of february for

00:54:59.860 sure good i sure hope they can get back to school soon i mean it's so important it's ridiculous that

00:55:04.740 that we're separating students like this.

00:55:06.620 I mean, it's an early point in your life.

00:55:08.660 These are lost years, that time that's gonna really

00:55:10.800 set them back in just their development in general.

00:55:13.240 And it's just so awful.

00:55:15.480 It's true.

00:55:16.320 And I've actually spoken with quite a few students.

00:55:18.860 I've interviewed a few who have been affected

00:55:21.540 by these policies and it is a very heartbreaking topic

00:55:27.440 for some of these students.

00:55:29.220 I know there are students who were coming to the end

00:55:32.940 their you know their four years and they were going to be graduating and and have had to put

00:55:37.340 that off and you know um i think uh i think there's a lot of hope that uh that these you know

00:55:45.180 the learning environment will again be normalized and um these restrictions will go away

00:55:51.420 so what other stories you got in the burner that are on top there so right now i'm working on a

00:55:56.860 story. So there has been a court challenge that has been ongoing since December of 2020.

00:56:05.820 This is a constitutional challenge that was put against the government of Alberta

00:56:13.100 and the mandates and restrictions that they were bringing in. Let's see here, the plaintiffs are

00:56:19.980 two churches in Alberta. One is the Heights Baptist Church in Medicine Hat. The other is

00:56:27.740 Northside Baptist Church in Calgary. And then there are, I believe, three individuals that are named

00:56:34.060 as plaintiffs on this constitutional challenge as well. And that has, again, started December of

00:56:42.620 2020 and so this has been ongoing for quite some time. I believe that that the court was able to

00:56:52.060 hear Dina Hinshaw speak in I believe it was July of 2021 and then the cross-examination for Dr.

00:57:02.860 Hinshaw was supposed to happen in September however because of the fourth wave and Dr. Hinshaw's

00:57:12.620 attention to the pandemic. And I believe her lawyers filed for an adjournment saying that

00:57:22.500 she was not available. So that ended up not happening in September. The cross-examination

00:57:29.700 of Dr. Hinshaw didn't happen in September. It has been put off till now. So now we are back

00:57:35.440 into court proceedings. In fact, they started this morning at the Court of Queen's Bench of Alberta.

00:57:40.780 and so just following that opening statements this morning I've been listening in and I am

00:57:48.760 just working out details I know we've talked about this I've talked about this in an interview I did

00:57:54.540 with lawyer Leighton Gray who is one of the lawyers working with the plaintiffs on this

00:58:00.660 people are really hoping to be able to watch this or attend this hearing or these these hearings

00:58:08.480 It's going to run for about the next 10 days to 14 days, depending on how long some of the cross-examinations run.

00:58:18.180 But I am just working it out right now.

00:58:20.480 I've got a story that's going to be coming out right away here.

00:58:22.800 And we are just waiting to get the authorization to include a link allowing the public to join in and watch the proceedings.

00:58:33.720 So again, those are going to be running today, tomorrow, all through next week.

00:58:39.060 I believe that Dr. Dina Hinshaw is scheduled to speak, sorry, to be cross-examined in the

00:58:46.660 trial next Wednesday and Thursday, if they stick to the schedule that I've seen so far.

00:58:52.960 And so we're going to be just following along with this and making sure that we update things.

00:58:58.000 And like I say, if I can get this link and have authorization to make it public, I will be putting that out to all of our viewers and all of our readers for sure.

00:59:09.040 Great. Well, that's an interesting one to watch. Definitely.

00:59:12.280 I mean, that could be explosive if the right questions are asked and answered, but we'll see.

00:59:17.000 I mean, people have tried to get her into the courtroom before and to date hasn't been any success with that yet.

00:59:22.920 Yeah, interestingly, the lawyers, again, Leighton Gray and Jeff Rath, had requested that Dr. Dina Hinshaw be ordered to speak in the cross-examination in person in the court.

00:59:39.880 However, the the justice that's overseeing this has has sort of denied that request and are allowing all of the cross examinations and testimony to be done virtually through their WebEx system.

00:59:54.580 So, again, that's the system I'm just trying to get authorization to be able to share the link with with people so that they can watch this over the coming days and into next week.

01:00:05.440 So, yeah. And the other thing I was going to fill you in on, too, was was what's happening at the Coutts border.

01:00:12.660 Of course, we have we we have people looking for those updates daily.

01:00:18.500 And as far as I've heard, so I've checked the RCMP website or the Twitter account.

01:00:24.500 That's typically where they will tweet out any kind of changes or events that are happening at the Coutts border.

01:00:33.200 And the last tweet was yesterday basically saying that the highway has been blocked off by protesters in and around that village of Coutts just before the Coutts border.

01:00:44.880 So that is still the case.

01:00:46.640 I have had confirmation by a couple of the organizers in Coutts who have let me know that, yes, in fact, those lanes are still being blocked at the moment.

01:00:58.900 And again, they are hardlining on on their request that all of the vaccine mandates and all of the other health orders be lifted.

01:01:11.080 So that is they they're digging in.

01:01:14.220 They are planning to stay and keep those lanes blocked until Kenny meets with them and they can come up with with an agreement to see all of the.

01:01:27.780 And they did identify the fact that, you know, they saw some movement, obviously, with Kenny's announcement on Tuesday, but it was not enough for them to to sort of pack up and head out of there now.

01:01:42.320 So, I'm hearing that lanes are still closed. I have also got an update that RCMP have been handing out tickets to some of the protesters in the area, but that's it so far. There's no other update at this point.

01:02:01.480 Great. Well, we'll certainly be watching that very closely. I mean, it's just an ongoing developing story. Was that everything you had in the burner for now? I know you got a lot of phone calls still to make.

01:02:10.840 Yeah, I do.

01:02:12.360 Yeah, I think for now, that's all I can update you on for my end of things.

01:02:17.460 Yes.

01:02:17.940 Excellent.

01:02:18.460 Yeah, like I said, I'm sometimes hesitant to pull you into the show because when I'm

01:02:22.080 in the newsroom with you, you're just constantly on that phone and typing and hammering away

01:02:25.760 because there's just news developing and following up on, you know, all the time.

01:02:30.820 So thank you very much for coming in to talk to us today, Melanie, and I will see you after

01:02:34.720 the show.

01:02:35.520 My pleasure.

01:02:36.580 Great.

01:02:37.460 So yeah, that was Melanie Risden.

01:02:39.020 And again, you can catch her reporting her shows or stuff like that on all our channels

01:02:43.260 at the westernstandardonline.com.

01:02:45.960 Of course, as a member, you can get in there and get that as it's breaking and when it

01:02:51.240 gets up there.

01:02:51.780 Plus, as I said, she did that interview on the Western Standard channels a little while

01:02:57.040 back with Justin Trudeau's half-brother.

01:02:58.660 It really was very well received by a lot of people.

01:03:01.140 And Mel does other stuff, as do Derek does stuff.

01:03:04.140 If you haven't followed us on Facebook, YouTube, and Rumble, Rumble, I really think is an

01:03:08.800 important one. You know, these crazy days when you get kicked off of platforms all over the place

01:03:12.720 and stuff. Rumble isn't doing that. Make sure to follow because you'll see the updates when they

01:03:17.700 come. When stuff breaks, we will cut in and you will get a live update from us. But if you're not

01:03:21.760 subscribed on those channels, you might not see them until it's too late. We want to be there

01:03:26.020 fast. You know, as you can see, as Mel's calling in person, finding out what's going on on the

01:03:30.720 ground out there, we get people on the ground. We had poor James stuck out there for 10 days in

01:03:34.660 and he gave some fantastic live updates there. And again, yes, follow me on Twitter. We tweet

01:03:40.820 things as they happen. And that's just how it's great with independent media, how we can get past

01:03:45.980 the establishment media, the legacy media, you know, who are basically been gatekeepers of

01:03:51.680 information for way too long. They can't keep us blocked anymore. So make sure to follow it and

01:03:57.360 share it so we can keep doing it. Let's look at some of the other news. Another good news story,

01:04:00.960 at least from my perspective, is a story broke that Jody Gondek, she's the mayor of Calgary.

01:04:07.380 I saw somebody saying hi from Ontario and that. We're getting some great viewership across the

01:04:10.940 country. She's a mayor in Calgary who was recently elected, and her weasel in chief was a gentleman

01:04:16.120 named Stephen Carter, and he didn't even last just shy of 100 days in office as a chief of staff

01:04:23.540 before he got shown the door. But now some of the other councillors have actually been coming out

01:04:28.000 and saying they'd issued complaints against him while he was in there.

01:04:32.160 He was apparently, I believe Sonia Sharp is one of the new councillors,

01:04:36.940 and it's not like Carter was trying to pressure her to vote certain ways in council with the mayor and stuff like that.

01:04:44.860 And she was actually already considering quitting council under that pressure.

01:04:49.120 I mean, it's a brand new councillor who's out there representing her people in Ward 1 of Calgary,

01:04:52.760 and this chief of staff is on her case so much she was even reconsidering being in that seat.

01:04:58.520 Well, Carter got fired.

01:04:59.900 I like bringing him up because he's been like a rash throughout Alberta politics for decades.

01:05:04.980 And he just leaves mayhem wherever he goes.

01:05:08.200 So I want it as well documented as possible. 0.99

01:05:10.320 Guys, quit hiring that clown. 0.98

01:05:12.400 He's way more trouble than he's worth. 0.98

01:05:14.220 He might give good advice or at least effective advice for winning elections.

01:05:18.980 He often does that.

01:05:20.300 Though, of course, he decimated the Alberta party with his guidance there.

01:05:23.680 But once you bring him in on staff, he never lasts long.

01:05:27.060 And there's some pretty good reasons for that, obviously.

01:05:30.240 Other news across the country, we've got Via Rail.

01:05:33.060 We don't see much of that in Alberta.

01:05:34.300 That's not a thing out here.

01:05:35.540 But they're big out in the east still.

01:05:37.240 They're big in central Canada.

01:05:38.420 And they're begging for another bailout.

01:05:42.420 Glenn Carrot.

01:05:43.200 Yeah, sorry, I get sidetracked.

01:05:44.940 I'm a little bit of ADD while I go. 0.92

01:05:46.360 I see Cheryl.

01:05:47.280 Somebody else mentioned him recently, too.

01:05:48.540 Let me look into that and see what I could do, Cheryl.

01:05:52.000 Either way, Via Rail, getting back to the favoured businesses in Canada.

01:05:57.140 They're looking for more money, more tax dollars,

01:05:59.440 so we can move more central Canadians around.

01:06:02.480 I mean, it's time to start drying these things up, you know.

01:06:06.320 Greyhound went broke.

01:06:07.320 I feel badly for people who relied on bus traffic,

01:06:10.620 but no, a bunch of little private ones throughout Alberta, for example,

01:06:14.100 are getting around, they're filling the void, they're doing it.

01:06:16.840 You know, the world's changing, transportation's changing. Via, train travel like that, you know what, if they can't make the bills, it's just time to stop the lines. That's all there is to it. We can't keep bailing companies out, sick and tired of it, especially companies that don't even service my province. You know, ask your customers, raise your ticket rates. If your service is that good, people will pay for it. If it isn't, bon voyage. It's done. You know, it's not there.

01:06:39.860 uh i got a weird one i gotta follow up more on this story i heard a report of the government's

01:06:44.940 doing something to enshrine environmental rights as if there's some sort of charter thing you know

01:06:50.660 so you'll have your right to environmental protection or something like that really

01:06:53.540 bizarre whoop crap which unfortunately is uh typical of our federal government so i'll be

01:07:00.460 reporting on that when i see more information on it other efforts on the siege in ottawa and that's 0.96

01:07:05.400 the best way to put it you know is a siege it's it's they're holding them in there they're trying

01:07:09.800 to cut off their supplies they're trying to make them uncomfortable they're trying to make them

01:07:12.300 give up and somebody put a notion out in government somewhere of ending traffic around parliament like

01:07:17.080 basically banning for a few blocks traffic whatsoever and they think that will fix things

01:07:22.460 well for one you still got to move all the ones who are already in there and they're just going

01:07:25.360 to protest in a wider circle so i don't think that's a brighter idea or way to do it but they're

01:07:30.900 getting desperate over there they really are they don't know how to move these guys out it's like

01:07:33.920 john was talking about you know they cut off the fuel and then people are just wandering around

01:07:37.740 hundreds of people with jerry cans full of water and then empty and full of diesel full of gasoline

01:07:41.340 they can't stop this thing so uh watching that development's been something else uh oh getting

01:07:48.100 back to vaccine requirements for staff my area you know my school district out in foothills

01:07:53.680 alberta so just south of calgary i live in a little bedroom community pretty just on the edge of town

01:07:57.500 and uh they have said uh no we're done with the vaccine requirements uh it's over they they

01:08:03.320 responded to Kenny's move and went further and said, we're not going to bother our staff with

01:08:06.860 this. We're not going to have this in the school district. It's over, it's done, it's behind us.

01:08:10.640 And hopefully that brings more pressure against, you know, more of these school districts and that

01:08:16.480 just to say, yeah, let's finish up with this. The kids are getting unmasked on Monday. I'm really

01:08:20.120 looking forward to that. I'm sure they're looking forward to that. You know, man, it just, it really

01:08:24.960 pains me to see kids masked up like that, to normalize this. I mean, again, there's a reason

01:08:31.180 we smile, we communicate with our mouths. It's being lost. I mean, this networking, this bonding,

01:08:36.860 this getting together as kids or scrapping you as kids or all the good stuff. And they're growing

01:08:41.980 up in this bizarre world of fear of each other and masking and dividing and plastic dividers

01:08:47.120 and stuff like that. I mean, they cannot be doing favors for their long-term development. It's

01:08:53.900 terrible. And it's going to be lifted on Monday. And of course, some people are freaking out about

01:08:58.120 that again we just don't see much evidence that it's going to be a problem but uh cheryl's asking

01:09:05.500 what about teachers if they have to wear masks in school yeah i don't know i really don't um again

01:09:10.420 that might be school district by school district uh the mask mandates though cheryl i guess for

01:09:15.060 adults and everything else i mean yeah it's so confusing with a lot of stuff i mean they're

01:09:19.180 remaining in place throughout alberta uh provincially until theoretically the end of

01:09:25.180 February, and they might get lifted. And then the big battle is going to come with the cities. I

01:09:28.920 mean, that's one thing. Gondek, by the way, you know, getting an update, Dave talked about that.

01:09:33.040 Calgary City Council debated keeping the vaccine passports in the city, trying to make a municipal

01:09:39.260 regulation to force it to keep happening, even if the province lifted it. And the majority of

01:09:44.940 council told her to get stuffed, which was good. The usual hard left suspects, you know, the

01:09:51.380 Courtney's and Giancarlo Carra and Gondek herself all wanted to try and find a way to keep

01:09:59.340 vaccine passports going in Calgary, but the rest of the council told them, no, that's not our

01:10:03.600 business. It's not our problem. Stop it. Edmonton, yeah, Patty Klein, their commenter mentioned that

01:10:08.960 Edmonton is trying to do that too. Yes. And they've been more successful. Now that could lead to quite

01:10:12.620 a battle between, as I said, the province and the cities. And I'm mixed on it. I like having a degree

01:10:17.880 of independence of our municipal governments

01:10:19.760 from the provincial government.

01:10:22.580 I don't like the concept of the provincial government

01:10:25.140 stepping in on municipal authority.

01:10:27.580 But at the same time, 1.00

01:10:28.260 I don't want to see these stupid mandates 1.00

01:10:29.820 continued by this dumb woke of municipal government. 1.00

01:10:32.760 And these municipal governments are horrible. 1.00

01:10:34.500 I mean, come on.

01:10:35.320 Again, we're getting back to the Stephen Carter selection

01:10:38.500 as a chief of staff or judgment isn't good.

01:10:41.460 And as I ran it about too, 0.85

01:10:42.680 with that ridiculous thing from the chamber of commerce.

01:10:46.080 And you see, these are all intertwined, by the way,

01:10:47.700 Calgary Economic Development, Chamber of Commerce, these woke city hall people. It's all one

01:10:51.480 entrenched bunch of bums and they really have no good clue of good policy. That's why we're seeing 0.99

01:10:57.360 the suburbs. I'll be talking to Mike Thomas, our real estate guy, about that next week.

01:11:03.020 There's been a census in Canada's numbers and showing that in Calgary, the development and

01:11:08.180 growth in housing and everything has slowed incredibly, the almost record numbers in the city.

01:11:12.680 But the satellite communities like mine or like Okotoks and Cochrane and Stratford are exploding,

01:11:17.420 Airdrie because people are getting the hell out of the city. They're saying, no, we're done with

01:11:20.780 that. We want no part of it. And then to have these stooges and they are, they're stooges.

01:11:25.600 They have no real business sense. So like the chamber saying that, oh my, if we lift these

01:11:30.800 vaccine passports, you know, people won't go out. No, it's already proved, I think by the looks of

01:11:34.680 it in one night, restaurants and bars at the best night they've had in months, they've enjoyed it.

01:11:38.840 They're going to finally start paying their bills and people are living again. But the mask mandate,

01:11:44.320 That's going to be a problem.

01:11:45.160 I can see Gondek hanging on to it.

01:11:46.460 We dealt with that last year, too.

01:11:47.520 Ninchy didn't want to let it go.

01:11:48.760 You know, again, control freaks do not want to let control go.

01:11:52.260 And when municipalities, I know that the other ones are going to drop those mask mandates

01:11:56.620 the second they can.

01:11:58.560 And it hurts Calgary businesses.

01:12:00.340 I feel for them, but I don't blame people for voting with their feet.

01:12:03.100 You know, I remember Jane and I, when the mask mandates were on in the city of Calgary

01:12:06.280 and off in other areas, we went shopping at the Canadian Tire in Cochrane for a day.

01:12:10.560 Oh, it was nice, unmasked and walking around.

01:12:13.180 It felt great.

01:12:13.700 And it was crowded because we're not the only ones who will actually travel 20 minutes a half hour to avoid those uncomfortable, nasty mandates.

01:12:21.320 So it's going to hurt Calgary businesses if they keep these mandates in and Edmonton businesses and any town or city that does this because people will go elsewhere.

01:12:31.380 Meanwhile, in B.C., we're bringing in tighter mandates for health care workers.

01:12:36.020 I mean, it is not consistent across the country.

01:12:38.260 Those poor neighbors and cousins of ours in B.C. are having a really hard time.

01:12:42.200 Horgan, just cracking down further. And their healthcare workers are going to maintain more,

01:12:49.000 it sounds like vaccination mandates, which leaves them work shorthanded, which puts more people at

01:12:52.960 risk and just this bad, bad policy we've got going on all over the place. And that frustrating. So,

01:12:59.620 you know, one province is doing well, another province does poorly. Reid Small is our reporter

01:13:05.020 in BC, by the way, and he's been putting out a lot of stuff. He's our top guy out there. I think

01:13:08.580 Derek recently promoted him.

01:13:10.520 And I'm going to be talking to Reid next Monday.

01:13:12.600 We're going to get an update from BC because we, again, we get a little too Alberta centric

01:13:16.340 sometimes, but we break and write about a lot of news.

01:13:19.480 Reid is writing good stories up there on westernstandardonline.com all the time.

01:13:23.940 And I'm going to talk to him to see what's going on out there.

01:13:27.020 He's also been covering that there's been some protesters gathering at a BC border crossing.

01:13:31.880 He wrote about that recently.

01:13:33.420 You can see that online.

01:13:35.140 There could be some border issues going on out there.

01:13:37.060 that one over by White Rock is very busy. There's some other ones and that could be building up as

01:13:41.860 well. So we're going to be following up with that. By the way, so a side thing, we're getting some

01:13:48.540 new swag around here. There's a Reed story. Yeah. Supporters of Freedom Convoy gathering near BC

01:13:53.060 border crossing. You know, so if this keeps springing up, if it keeps spreading, it's going

01:13:57.620 to be putting a lot more pressure on the government to start backing off. But I mean, let's just hope

01:14:02.860 it keeps staying peaceful and effective. But yeah, I want to show the new swag that came in. We showed

01:14:06.260 these on the pipeline the other night we got western standard coffee mugs i think the brand

01:14:10.740 could be a little bigger on it but you can read it good coloring and it's got a nice little thumb

01:14:14.820 hold even for your tired mornings when you can keep a grip on it avoid spilling your coffee on

01:14:19.760 yourself we're getting more branded stuff all the time i'm thinking of coming up with ways to

01:14:23.600 we could have some fun and interact and maybe a few uh derek will probably uh get upset whatever

01:14:27.740 i'm going to find some giveaways so we can get some of these cups and things like that out to

01:14:31.560 our viewers and readers and listeners and that, and, uh, you know, have a good time,

01:14:35.860 more interactivity. That's again, as I said, I love with this, this online thing. It keeps

01:14:40.000 sending me those, those memes and, and, uh, uh, videos and links and heads up or guest requests.

01:14:44.820 It's, uh, it all helps, you know, and we can keep this fresh and keep it rolling.

01:14:49.620 Uh, I do want to speak one more time about Bitcoin. Well, then we should

01:14:52.880 remind you of these guys. They are, uh, people will help you into the world of digital currency.

01:14:59.160 they'll educate you on it and make sure you feel safe and comfortable about doing it.

01:15:04.200 And they've partnered with PowerED. It's called by Athabasca University in Alberta to create a

01:15:09.340 free online curriculum about Bitcoin. Like you can take what they call Bitcoin Academy,

01:15:13.440 get on there and learn about what it is. Check it out. See if it's for you. Maybe it's not for

01:15:18.060 you. It's not necessarily for everybody, but I mean, you've got to check into it first. And

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01:15:50.580 one of our sponsors, they've been really good. So I think we're going to get close to a closing.

01:15:55.380 I got another good show coming up though. I'm going to have Marcel Latouche coming on. He wrote

01:15:59.100 a column for us here and he's from the Institute for Public Sector Accountability. I've had him

01:16:04.080 on before. He's always got a great point of view on governance in general, on principle in general.

01:16:10.500 And he wrote a very good column again about that equity equality thing, you know, because it gets

01:16:15.520 pretty mired up. And then we can expand on that and talk about it as well. And then I'm going to

01:16:20.820 have Michelle Sterling from the Friends of Science. She's going to come on as well. And we're going to

01:16:24.500 talk about some of the discussions with, she wrote a column because we've had some bad coverage of

01:16:29.380 the things with the residential schools and the grave sites that have been found and things like

01:16:35.240 that. A touchy issue, but we got to talk about those touchy subjects sometimes and, you know,

01:16:39.700 try to settle things and get a good resolution. So I think that'll do it for today. I've been

01:16:45.500 to your ear long enough. I've had a great lineup of guests, a lot of news. Thank you, Patty, for

01:16:50.000 being in there and watching and all the rest of you guys. I'm looking forward to more shows as

01:16:55.380 we go forward, but I'm going to leave you alone for now. Y'all have a good night and I'll see you

01:16:59.360 tomorrow.

01:17:15.500 Thank you.

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