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00:02:39.040 Good day, I'm Derek Hildebrandt.

00:03:05.220 Welcome to The Pipeline.

00:03:06.860 our weekly affairs broadcast here. I'm joined today by Corey Morgan, Alberta political columnist

00:03:14.160 and host of The Corey Morgan Show. How are you doing, Corey? Good, good. And also joined by Dave

00:03:20.880 Naylor, news editor of the Western Standard. Dave, what are you doing today? Well, up to my neck,

00:03:26.640 up to my neck, Derek, but happy hump day to you and Corey. I know you've got a pretty

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00:04:41.160 Well, today we're going to be dealing with some really interesting issues.

00:04:45.380 We've got the coming Supreme Court of Canada constitutional ruling on the carbon tax.

00:04:51.820 That comes down likely tomorrow morning.

00:04:54.800 We're going to give you a primer on that.

00:04:57.520 In Alberta here, Jason Kenney has backed off of his own phased reopening plan.

00:05:05.080 Again, we will get into that and what it means for people in Alberta and people outside of Alberta

00:05:12.720 kind of looking at what happens in the province that it should theoretically be leading the way

00:05:18.100 on restoring some of our basic freedoms here.

00:05:20.800 And speaking of not having basic freedoms but winning against the system,

00:05:26.420 Pastor Coates has been released from jail.

00:05:30.840 The Grace Life Church pastor has been set free with a $1,500 fine, far short of what

00:05:38.860 I think they were hoping to do to him, which involved some kind of drawing and quartering.

00:05:44.880 So we're going to begin with the Supreme Court of Canada constitutional ruling coming up tomorrow.

00:05:51.360 Dave, why don't you give us a primer?

00:05:52.520 Well, this is a ruling that's going to be happening bright and early tomorrow, Derek.

00:05:58.760 And I'm sure a lot of people in Alberta from the Premier's office on down will be up with the sun when that comes in.

00:06:08.220 They are going to be ruling whether the federal carbon tax is constitutionally legal.

00:06:13.820 in lower court rulings. I think there's been three cases. Seven of the 15 judges have said

00:06:23.860 that the ruling is just too broad, gives cabinet way too much power. So this was all about the

00:06:32.560 carbon tax, which was brought in in 2018 at a mere $50 a ton. And the government then vowed it

00:06:41.580 would never, ever increase. And of course, guess what? It's going up to $170 a ton, a 240% increase.

00:06:50.560 So that's going to cost your liter of gasoline 40 cents more a liter. So imagine that on a big

00:06:57.720 pickup truck, how much that's going to cost you to fill up. So in earlier appeals, the Court of

00:07:04.700 Appeal upheld it four to one in Ontario, but the Court of Appeal in Alberta was exactly the opposite.

00:07:11.580 they struck it down four to one.

00:07:14.060 So what the court is going to rule tomorrow is anybody's guess, Derek,

00:07:17.520 but a lot of people keeping their fingers crossed.

00:07:21.900 Corey, we know that the Supreme Court of Canada has an excellent record

00:07:25.960 at protecting provincial jurisdiction and personal freedoms.

00:07:30.220 You're a constitutional lawyer, Corey.

00:07:32.100 Why don't you tell us what you think is going to happen?

00:07:36.280 Yeah, I wish I was a constitutional lawyer

00:07:39.460 because there's certainly enough to keep them busy these days on on these sorts of things

00:07:44.500 i really you know it's a roll of the dice it's been split coming up all the way through the

00:07:48.420 courts they're going to be hearing the similar arguments to it and uh it's really anybody's

00:07:54.260 guess which way they're going to land because i think there's there's valid arguments both ways

00:07:58.020 i mean this will be a crushing tax particularly as dave mentioned with those massive increases

00:08:03.060 they've got planned and it's not just per per liter on your fuel like this will raise the cost

00:08:07.860 of living on everything. An energy tax is like a GST. I mean, every bit of goods that are

00:08:14.600 transported, farms. I mean, they talk about a rebate system, but a rebate system is never

00:08:18.800 efficient. So I think, you know, typically the federal government can get away with a lot under

00:08:25.600 the constitution and the Supreme Court will take that into consideration. But whether or not they'll

00:08:31.240 take into consideration the actual impacts of the tax, that's, I guess, not necessarily their role,

00:08:34.960 but I hope they keep that in mind. Yeah, it's, this is obviously going to be one of the most

00:08:42.540 watched Supreme Court rulings, probably since the same-sex marriage rulings approaching 20 years

00:08:49.980 ago. This is going to have a profound impact on not just the tax structure of Canada, but federal

00:08:56.520 provincial relations. Jason Kenney and some of the other premiers who have fought against

00:09:03.260 at least portions of the federal carbon tax have been pitting all of their hopes on this court

00:09:09.460 decision. They're not fighting the entire carbon tax. The provincial government in Alberta and

00:09:19.580 in Saskatchewan and elsewhere, they have already accepted the federal carbon tax on industry. So

00:09:24.580 there is the carbon tax on the oil sands and oil extraction, things like that. We already have a

00:09:30.200 carbon tax there. Where we have right now is the federal carbon tax imposed directly on consumer

00:09:37.440 goods in Alberta, in Saskatchewan, in Ontario. There we have the federal carbon tax directly

00:09:43.100 being imposed. I don't recall ever seeing a rebate myself, but frankly, I don't want a

00:09:49.120 rebate on an unjust tax. I just don't want the tax period. But this is going to have a profound

00:09:53.420 impact, I think, on federal-provincial relations. Dave, how would you expect

00:10:01.900 both Premier Kenney and Premier Moe to react in the event that they're not successful and

00:10:07.740 the Supreme Court reaffirms the federal government's right to impose a strangely

00:10:13.900 structured tax like this? That's a good question, Derek, and anybody's guess, really.

00:10:19.340 You know, this is the court of last appeal, so to say, and if Alberta loses and, you know, they're in the same boat as Saskatchewan, there's nowhere else to appeal to.

00:10:32.360 They're stuck with it.

00:10:34.540 As to what Kenny will do, you know, jump up and down, stamp his feet maybe, blast the government some more.

00:10:41.640 You know, what it will do if the Supreme Court upholds the carbon taxes, it will add more fuel to the fire of the Wildrose Independence Party and other independence-minded groups, because they'll point it out and say, look, we can't deal with this.

00:10:59.520 We've got to, we cannot get a fair deal.

00:11:01.280 We've got to strike out on our own.

00:11:03.220 So that's, yeah, what Kenny's going to do.

00:11:07.500 I'm sure they're huddled talking about it as we speak.

00:11:09.980 that's an interesting point that um you know kenny's kenny used to have kind of the right

00:11:17.940 flank in the arguments in alberta where the ndp were the staunch federal party kenny was the guy

00:11:22.540 who was going to fight ottawa so far the fight back strategy hasn't appeared to work at all

00:11:27.580 uh what would we've got if this supreme court decision does not go the province's way it will

00:11:34.840 allow sophomores to say that working with Ottawa or even fighting Ottawa within confederation

00:11:40.280 simply doesn't work. The NDP's approach in Alberta was to work with Ottawa and hope it

00:11:45.000 would work out well. I think most people would say it didn't. Kenny's approach is to yell at

00:11:50.660 Ottawa and fight it in the courts. So far it hasn't yielded anything. Equalization has been

00:11:55.620 renewed for another term. The Supreme Court is now going to decide tomorrow with the future

00:12:00.780 uh of the fight on that front uh then we've got uh well we actually we've got an interesting

00:12:07.900 question from uh chris uh leave them i probably said that wrong chris leave them can the provinces

00:12:15.660 not use the not can the provinces use the notwithstanding clause in this circumstance

00:12:20.140 uh no they can't because the notwithstanding clause applies only to the right of the federal

00:12:25.660 government of provinces to overturn a Supreme Court ruling as it involves the Charter of Rights,

00:12:33.180 which is one part of the Constitution, but just that single part of the Constitution,

00:12:38.140 the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, it doesn't apply to the broader British North America Act,

00:12:43.820 which was replaced by the Constitution Act 1982, or parts of the Constitution Act 1982.

00:12:49.340 So, for instance, you know, the provinces can't overturn federal jurisdiction over the military.

00:12:58.700 You know, Alberta can't, unfortunately, Alberta can't use the notwithstanding clause and say, nope, the army is under Alberta's jurisdiction.

00:13:05.480 So that's something that we're not able to do.

00:13:08.240 So the notwithstanding clause is not applicable in this case.

00:13:13.600 In this case, if the federal government, if the Supreme Court of Canada rules in favor of the federal carbon tax provinces, there are really only a few choices.

00:13:23.920 One is accept it, campaign for a party to come to power to change the policy you don't like, or as some would say, just leave Canada and then not be subject to the Supreme Court's decision any longer.

00:13:36.800 So really not many easy options in that case.

00:13:40.340 Corey, maybe you can elaborate on this. This is, I think, a key pillar of Jason Kenney's

00:13:47.960 fight back strategy, as he's called it, against what he says is unfair treatment from Ottawa.

00:13:56.000 If the Supreme Court ruling doesn't go his way, what do you think the fallout will be? And then

00:14:00.940 maybe if you can comment on the flip side of that, if he is victorious in court here,

00:14:05.580 what will that mean for Kenny's political strategy going forward?

00:14:12.600 Yeah, well, this is kind of a battle between the federalist approach and some people who have

00:14:17.280 already given up hope on the system and are examining things such as secession and independence

00:14:22.280 for the West. If the Supreme Court rules that it's perfectly constitutional for the federal

00:14:27.700 government to impose such a serious tax, that's definitely regionally targeted. I mean, it's going

00:14:33.500 to impact the prairie provinces way more disproportionately than in the east then that

00:14:39.340 indicates that as far as a lot of people are concerned the system is broken and we can't win

00:14:43.580 by playing through the rules which are the supreme court so it's time to start looking outside of the

00:14:48.220 rules if it is a win though uh jason kenney will be able to really point to the regionalists and

00:14:54.220 say you see we can if we keep battling we keep struggling and keep fighting the the system will

00:14:59.260 work for us eventually and we can win it through the courts. We can protect our provincial

00:15:04.560 jurisdiction. So a lot is really riding on this case because Kenny's been a very dedicated

00:15:10.900 federalist. So he's not going to have much defense if the Supreme Court rules against the

00:15:16.540 province in this case. A lot is riding here. And I think Kenny really had better hope for a favorable

00:15:22.560 ruling. I'm interested in the federal political ramifications of this. Aaron O'Toole campaigned

00:15:30.880 vigorously against the carbon tax when he ran for the conservative leadership.

00:15:35.840 Well, at least that was the headlines for most of the mainstream media. We reported something

00:15:39.760 a bit different. There was a bit more nuance to it. Aaron O'Toole campaigned against the Trudeau

00:15:45.280 carbon tax but said that he did favor, quote, carbon pricing and would work with the provinces

00:15:51.120 on that uh that actually doesn't sound very different from what justin trudeau said except

00:15:56.400 we might just not call it a carbon tax but for the record justin trudeau's carbon tax is not

00:16:00.560 actually called a carbon tax it's some more convoluted plan uh rachel notley's carbon tax

00:16:05.280 was called the climate leadership action plan uh the clap as i like to call it uh and we know how

00:16:11.920 difficult to get rid of that is so uh i'm interested to see how how aaron o'toole would

00:16:18.800 respond to this. Surely he would be happy to see a defeat for the Trudeau government in the Supreme

00:16:24.160 Court. But he's been very coy around the idea of a carbon tax. The media have started to raise

00:16:30.000 questions. They've started to catch on that maybe this guy isn't really against a carbon tax. He's

00:16:35.120 just against this particular carbon tax. Let's go back to you, Corey. What do you think the fall

00:16:42.320 will be? How do you think Aaron O'Toole is going to handle this? Because he's been promising this

00:16:47.200 big vigorous climate change crusade promise to make the Conservative Party more relevant

00:16:55.200 in parts of urban and eastern Canada. How do you think this might, in the event, again maybe for

00:17:02.320 both scenarios, both for a victory for the carbon tax or a defeat for the carbon tax, what do you

00:17:08.800 think those two scenarios pretend for Aaron O'Toole? Well I think he'd prefer to see a defeat

00:17:14.480 to the carbon tax, just out of the sense that it's in his favor to see the governing party,

00:17:18.700 the Liberals, fail in one of their initiatives. But that was a large controversial element from

00:17:24.780 last weekend's convention. I mean, Aaron O'Toole clearly is gearing up for an election campaign to

00:17:30.240 say that they're going to take a green plan and carbon initiatives, just like the Liberals.

00:17:35.660 They're just saying perhaps we'll be more likable about it, which I don't think is the case

00:17:39.000 for the West. And the membership, when it came to that climate change motion, it came before the

00:17:46.200 floor, slapped it down. They told O'Toole to jam his motion on climate change. So it's a dicey

00:17:55.140 area. I think just on a point of pride, I guess you could say it'll be good for O'Toole if this

00:18:01.880 tax gets slapped down. If it doesn't get knocked down by the courts, again, well, where's O'Toole

00:18:08.420 going to go with it? What's he going to say that he is doing any different than Justin Trudeau?

00:18:12.560 I'd worry if the court slapped it down, O'Toole will come out and campaign in the East saying,

00:18:16.620 well, we're going to come up with the carbon tax that the courts will like.

00:18:21.440 I hope you're wrong, but I fear you're not. Well, let's bring it a little closer to home here.

00:18:29.720 Jason Kenney is backing off the phase three of his reopening plan. We remember in pretty early

00:18:39.860 January, right after the big Snowbird scandal, kind of out of nowhere, we had this restaurant

00:18:45.960 rebellion. These rogue restaurant owners said, look, I'm going to go out of business if the

00:18:51.620 government keeps me closed. And all they're doing, and the government's proposing to fine me or jail

00:18:56.540 me, well, I'm going to take my chances going toe-to-toe with the government and reopening

00:19:00.560 anyway. And so we had, you know, began with the whistle stop near Mirror, Alberta, and it really

00:19:06.520 started to catch on like a prairie fire, exponentially more small businesses, small

00:19:12.640 restaurants opening every single day. I think all of them were small independent homes. I don't

00:19:17.580 believe any of the chains did it. They tend to be a bit more deferential to the government, but

00:19:22.340 this really got out of control for the government here. And with the really just two choices in

00:19:29.400 front of him, Jason Kenney could either start throwing these people in jail or he could try

00:19:34.520 to appease them somewhat. And so we had this phased reopening plan where if we met certain

00:19:40.680 targets by certain dates, there would be a reopening. Last time we had the phase two a few

00:19:47.520 weeks ago uh the numbers in alberta already were at the numbers to warrant a phase three reopening

00:19:52.640 but they didn't go to phase three they said no we're doing phase two first even though

00:19:56.320 the numbers said phase three uh would be applicable um but they didn't even do phase two i think they

00:20:02.480 uh they reopened did a partial reopening of libraries or something i don't i don't know who

00:20:07.040 like i don't know who still goes to those things uh people without the internet i guess but um

00:20:11.440 uh then there was a huge backlash uh from kind of the conservative base in the province

00:20:16.320 and then from six MLAs who spoke up publicly, led by Drew Barnes, but joined by some others who were,

00:20:23.200 I think, less expected to speak out. So then the government finally did go through with phase two.

00:20:31.760 Dave, why don't you tell us what's happened here more with phase three,

00:20:36.080 what the plan was for reopening, and what we actually got?

00:20:39.600 Derek, I liken it to a football player, a kicker, and on the last play of the game, he's got to kick a 50-yard field goal to seal the victory, and he boots it with all his might, and as it's just approaching the goal line, the officials get up and move the goal posts, and that's exactly what the county government has done.

00:21:04.120 They promised us at the very start of this pandemic that once we got in below 300 hospitalizations that we would move on to phase three, which would have seen things like allowing more gatherings of church, openings of casinos, more children, sports, that type of thing.

00:21:23.660 But even though there were only 280 people in hospital when the announcement was made on Monday, they did not go ahead with it.

00:21:32.300 They say, yeah, we're under 300 now, but by the end of the week, we expect to be over 300.

00:21:37.480 So moving the goalposts yet again.

00:21:40.580 They say their big concern now is the variants.

00:21:44.340 They're now tracking more than 100 new variant cases a day, which is a growth of between 20 and 25%.

00:21:52.080 So I think that was their main excuse in not moving on to phase three.

00:21:58.600 But, you know, the average Albertan, again, feels betrayed, lied to almost.

00:22:05.100 In our initial story, Drew Barnes was complaining again that, you know, we've done everything everybody's asked and we're not getting the rewards that we were promised.

00:22:16.800 So what the new yardstick is, I don't know.

00:22:21.500 They're still saying 300, but I guess it's all going to depend on the variants and how they go.

00:22:30.620 Yeah, for those of you who didn't see it yet, last night we had a fantastic show with Danielle Uncensored on the Western Standard interviewing deplatformed doctors.

00:22:41.860 she had three really intelligent doctors who are at least in large measure de-platformed for their

00:22:48.660 dissenting views from the chief medical officers and from the politicians where we they really got

00:22:54.420 into this in some detail and why a lot of the metrics governments are using to even track this

00:22:59.060 stuff really just does not make sense right now um you know just active cases is is a terrible

00:23:06.740 measure to be using uh the way they're measuring who's actually infected is not reliable um the

00:23:13.220 data is often old uh it's conflated uh it's far too much to get into right now but if you haven't

00:23:18.660 already watched it check out it you can find it on our website westernstandardonline.com we have

00:23:24.180 it posted from youtube there you can also watch it directly on the facebook page which might be

00:23:29.300 be handy if you're watching us on Facebook right now. Corey, the last time Kenny moved the goal

00:23:37.280 posts on phase two, there was a massive backlash and he was forced to climb down again in the face

00:23:43.660 of a caucus rebellion. Do you think we have the prospect of that happening again? Or do you think

00:23:49.920 the government's going to be in the all clear here? I don't know. You know, I'm getting to be

00:23:55.560 blunt, sick and tired of them bowing to the fear mongering crap. And that's what it is. It's crap. 1.00

00:24:00.780 I mean, I've been throwing it in their face on social media over and over again, and I'm going 1.00

00:24:04.100 to continue to. They are doing their governing based on models, which have proven to be wrong

00:24:10.040 for an entire year. Every model they put out is hysterically exaggerated on what they project to

00:24:16.440 actually happen. So when they stand up there and say, we expect these infections to be through the

00:24:20.560 roof next week, I call BS. I'm sick of it. You know, you guys put out those projections back

00:24:25.960 in January. You said this variant was going to have 3,000 cases by now. We're sitting under 300.

00:24:32.360 And yeah, they use the caveat to say, oh, it went up a little. We wanted to see it under 300 and

00:24:37.240 going downwards again, you know, inserting the fine print all the time. Well, what if it goes

00:24:41.440 down by five tomorrow? Well, you open things up like it's just the reticence on opening up the

00:24:46.180 cowardice on the part of the government, but they're also cowardice when citizens push back.

00:24:51.260 This is part of why their support is going into the toilet, because they're infuriating everybody.

00:24:54.940 The people who want everything locked up, they get mad every time he does back down in the face

00:25:00.100 of public opposition, and the public is just getting sick and tired of these constantly moving

00:25:03.760 goalposts. You can't plan, you can't expect an Easter dinner or a life or summer vacationing or

00:25:09.560 reopening your business, and you can't count on anything the government tells you as their metrics

00:25:13.820 for it because they keep moving him as they go.

00:25:15.800 So I've just had enough of it, and I think a lot more people have it.

00:25:18.460 I think, Corey, you may need to visit Kyron's way.

00:25:22.720 You're sounding a bit stressed there.

00:25:25.320 I will point out the questions after the press conference on Monday were focused on,

00:25:31.840 hey, are we going to go back into phase one?

00:25:35.280 And, of course, they didn't rule that out.

00:25:38.520 The other note I wanted to mention was one supporter of keeping it in phase two was NDP leader Rachel Notley.

00:25:47.600 Earlier Monday, she had pleaded with the government not to lessen the regulations, saying that we're just not ready for it yet.

00:25:58.720 So the government did have some support from the NDP of all places.

00:26:02.940 Wow. NDP supporting the UCP's move. We wonder why the UCP base is a little upset right now.

00:26:15.000 All right. Well, we're going to move it on to good news coming from this mess.

00:26:19.840 Pastor James Coates, the pastor of Grace Life Church in Stony Plain, Alberta, just west

00:26:25.940 of Edmonton, was released from jail. Jail is a strange term for this because he was actually

00:26:31.640 being held in a maximum security penitentiary with murderers and rapists. Luckily for him,

00:26:38.640 we might say, he was held in solitary confinement. I suppose that's the only way the government

00:26:42.840 figured they could isolate him. In my review, we had his wife, Erin Coates, on the Western Standard,

00:26:52.460 Danielle Smith Uncensored, had a run for a full two-hour broadcast. We had John Carpeyon from the

00:26:59.500 Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. The JCCF is representing Pastor Coates and many of

00:27:08.320 these other cases going on right now. They were in large measure successful, released from jail

00:27:14.920 finally, and given a $1,500 fine, which is considerably less than the fines in jail time

00:27:24.900 that the Crown was trying to get from him.

00:27:28.560 Dave, why don't you fill us in?

00:27:30.880 How long was he in jail for, and what were the circumstances of the release?

00:27:36.140 He's been in jail since mid-February, Derek,

00:27:39.460 after repeatedly breaking COVID-19 pandemic laws

00:27:43.180 by having packed services at his Grace Life Church just outside Edmonton.

00:27:48.820 He appeared in court virtually on Monday,

00:27:52.400 dressed in the traditional orange jailhouse overalls.

00:27:58.460 And he was freed by the justice, justice champion,

00:28:01.500 but not without a good tongue lashing.

00:28:04.180 The Crown and the defense had proposed a fine of $100.

00:28:09.700 The judge said, I don't think that's enough.

00:28:12.480 And he retired to think about it.

00:28:15.020 And he came back and raised it to $1,500.

00:28:18.820 and gave the pastor an earful.

00:28:23.780 The pastor had told the justice, quote,

00:28:26.220 I am not a political revolutionary.

00:28:29.960 But the judge sort of really spanked him, saying, you know,

00:28:34.360 quote, he wants to make a statement that he cannot be bound by the undertaking,

00:28:38.560 but I want to make a statement about people who refuse to obey public health orders

00:28:42.840 during the pandemic, said champion.

00:28:46.140 And he basically said, you know, the law applies to everybody, and the jail time you've done is because you broke the law.

00:28:54.600 So the Crown has dropped all but one public health charge against the pastor now, and he's been released.

00:29:02.100 And he's been released without any conditions that he stopped preaching.

00:29:06.980 You remember at two previous bail hearings, he could have gone free if he'd have signed a document to say, I will not preach.

00:29:14.800 but he stood by his beliefs and refused to sign it, and so he spent the month in solitary.

00:29:22.880 So he's out.

00:29:23.900 He's back home with Aaron, and I fully expect him to be behind the pulpit again on Sunday,

00:29:31.380 Grace Life Church just outside Edmonton.

00:29:37.180 Incredible stuff.

00:29:38.380 Corey, do you think there might be a few reasons why the government dropped most of the charges

00:29:44.860 against Pastor Coates? One is this is just terrible press. This is not something the government wants

00:29:50.940 to see. Now, the prosecutor is not the government in this sense. Yes, they're working for the

00:29:55.580 government, but the prosecutor is not a political appointee. But the prosecutors do work for the

00:30:04.220 Minister of Justice and Solicitor General. And we do know that governments do intervene in some

00:30:11.000 cases to put pressure to maybe not push too hard. Do we think that this, I'd like your opinion,

00:30:19.280 do you think that this has been dropped because it was simply bad press? Do you think it was

00:30:27.080 dropped because they thought they would lose? Or was it because these charges would all inevitably

00:30:32.960 lead to a constitutional challenge in the Supreme Court, which would inevitably, which could end up

00:30:38.220 essentially killing the lockdown and many of these restrictions nationally if it was successful.

00:30:43.780 Yeah, well, I think it's a combination of the first and third things you mentioned.

00:30:47.740 So I'll start with the first part, public pressure works. I mean, the courts never like to admit that.

00:30:53.660 They like to say they're above that. But in truth, when the public is livid and they're off,

00:30:59.340 you know the courts are off side with them uh there will be pressure on prosecutors and others

00:31:04.040 to back off uh again i bring up like the eddie maurice case a couple of years ago the the young

00:31:08.620 father who'd defended his home against uh burglars and a fellow got shot in the arm they kept kicking

00:31:14.180 the can down the road kicking the can down the road with his hearings and still there was always

00:31:18.120 150 protesters standing outside the okotoks courthouse before the prosecutor sort of found

00:31:23.140 a shaky thing and just pulled out of the case and let him go in the case of coats i mean we saw on

00:31:28.620 the Western Standard. There was coverage, you know, Danielle did that fantastic interview with

00:31:32.580 his wife, Erin Coates. And then that moved on even to Tucker Carlson. I mean, one of the highest rated

00:31:36.740 shows in North America. Speaking of this imprisoned pastor, it looks terrible and it puts that

00:31:41.800 pressure on and they need to pull the escape hatch. The other part is, and as other people are

00:31:46.840 commenting on, if this kept going through the courts, for one, there would be disclosure. So

00:31:51.220 the government would actually have to have a public spectacle of making their case. Why are

00:31:55.800 we cracking down on human freedoms like this particularly free religion and they don't want

00:32:00.200 to go into that discussion and open so i mean they get themselves out of that and thirdly as you said

00:32:05.960 if this went on as the justice center for constitutional freedoms was saying into a

00:32:11.160 full constitutional or charter challenge they could lose and that could shut down lockdowns

00:32:16.120 all across the country so they as much as they're getting egg in their face and letting coats out

00:32:21.000 and dropping those conditions

00:32:22.220 because he refused to abide by any.

00:32:24.260 A very brave man.

00:32:26.420 They backed out because they really were cornered

00:32:29.220 and it was good to see.

00:32:34.820 Dave, we've got Cheryl Dawn says, 0.98

00:32:37.160 how come the Western Standard doesn't ask real questions

00:32:40.620 at Hinshaw Pressers?

00:32:43.360 Dave, why don't you tell us how Hinshaw Pressers go with you?

00:32:47.780 Dave, you're on mute.

00:32:49.520 Dave, you are on mute.

00:32:51.000 and i was doing so well yeah we've we've tried multiple times and the the bottom line is they

00:32:56.520 do not take uh questions from us uh we were uh on the line with them uh uh monday and uh waiting

00:33:05.560 patiently with all the other reporters and we just never get asked and it's not only hinshaw it's

00:33:11.080 the jason kenney press conferences uh we're never allowed to uh to ask any questions there so

00:33:16.760 they decide who gets uh who gets to ask and who doesn't and they obviously don't want to hear

00:33:21.640 from us derek these online press conferences are really bad for accountability traditionally uh

00:33:28.040 you know uh but when i was in politics you would have a real press conference in front of human

00:33:33.400 beings and if uh you know if you were sitting there dave with your hand up like a polite school

00:33:39.240 boy saying hey i want to ask a question and uh every single day that you're there i'm not asked 0.97

00:33:44.600 pointing to you saying, okay, Dave, I'll answer your bloody question. It would look embarrassing 0.95

00:33:48.960 and the rest of the press would see this. But now we've got these conference calls

00:33:51.840 and it allows some kid in short pants making three times a salary that they're qualified for

00:33:58.760 to select who gets to ask questions. And none of the rest of the press have any idea who actually

00:34:03.980 is even trying to answer questions. So we know that both Premier Kenney and Dina Hinshaw,

00:34:10.580 They like taking questions from everybody, including French CBC, but they don't take

00:34:14.820 questions from the Western Standard. So if any of you are wondering why we're not asking questions

00:34:19.940 of Dina Hintra or Jason Kenney, it's because we are asking questions, but our reporters are never

00:34:25.080 selected to actually ask the questions. So that would be why. Well, gentlemen, any final thoughts

00:34:32.040 before we close? Just a reminder to attend Danielle's show tomorrow night. It's going to

00:34:39.100 be another great one with the Rogue Caucus there. And my show, the second episode will be coming up 0.96

00:34:45.840 Friday. I'll have Michelle Sterling with the Friends of Science on and Spencer Fernando to

00:34:51.260 talk about some federal political issues. So it should be a really good show, 10 o'clock Friday

00:34:55.020 morning. Shame on me for not plugging that. Go ahead, Dave. Derek, just to remind viewers that

00:35:01.400 the Supreme Court ruling tomorrow on carbon tax will be coming down about 7.30 Calgary time.

00:35:08.440 I'll be on it.

00:35:09.840 So keep checking back on the website for the breaking news and reaction throughout the day as it comes in.

00:35:18.060 Dave is on the case.

00:35:19.240 And, yeah, shame on me for not plugging your show.

00:35:22.440 Corey Morgan has now got his own regular show.

00:35:27.700 Corey's done some ad hoc from time to time shows.

00:35:30.700 But now every Monday and every Friday, 10 a.m. to 12 Mountain Standard Time, we're going to have the Corey Morgan Show.

00:35:40.840 Very soon, we're going to also be announcing another show based in British Columbia on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays to go alongside Corey.

00:35:50.500 So be sure to check out the Corey Morgan Show every Monday and Friday.

00:35:55.620 You can watch it live on Facebook or YouTube.

00:35:59.640 and you can always catch it on podcast as well.

00:36:02.740 I'm very excited about that.

00:36:04.040 I know it's going well.

00:36:05.020 And yes, again, tomorrow we've got another episode

00:36:09.100 of Danielle Smith Uncensored.

00:36:11.360 She'll be interviewing members of the Liberty Caucus.

00:36:15.120 That'll include Maxine Bernier of the People's Party,

00:36:17.880 Paul Hinman of the Wildrose Independence Party,

00:36:20.620 Drew Barnes of the United Conservative Party,

00:36:22.300 and Randy Hillier, Independent MPP in Ontario,

00:36:26.460 formerly of the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party.

00:36:30.240 That's going to be a really, really great episode.

00:36:32.840 All very interesting people who are some of those rare politicians

00:36:36.580 who actually say something interesting,

00:36:38.740 not on the talking points from time to time.

00:36:41.160 Again, today's show was sponsored by Kyren's Way.

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00:37:14.480 Thank you all very much for joining me today.

00:37:17.380 It's been fantastic.

00:37:19.420 Corey, we'll see you again tomorrow morning.

00:37:22.660 Friday.

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