Western Standard - MARTY UP NORTH： A referendum on a referendum： Danielle Smith’s political tightrope

00:00:00.000 happy may 28th everyone uh what a gorgeous day here in calgary i hope it's a gorgeous day

00:00:29.220 wherever you are actually i think across the province across the prairies i think right now

00:00:33.720 is uh is pretty nice weather um except maybe eastern manitoba or eastern saskatchewan and

00:00:41.620 western manitoba i guess you guys are sort of entering a uh bit of a hot uh streak right now

00:00:47.440 but uh here in calgary absolutely gorgeous so much so that i might uh get the old paddleboard

00:00:54.200 out tomorrow and go get on the bow river i haven't seen anybody on the bow river yet every year i

00:01:00.040 always talk about doing this i've never done it but you know just when the ice is breaking up on

00:01:03.880 the bow river i want to get my kayak or one of my canoes and go on the river when there's still a

00:01:09.080 little bit of ice and maybe become the subject of uh of somebody else's uh photo essay you know

00:01:15.560 crazy canuck goes out on the bow river i know that the fire department's out there practicing

00:01:21.640 So they're getting ready for a busy season.

00:01:25.440 Lots to talk about today.

00:01:27.200 Oh, check it out.

00:01:27.980 Before I get into it, look who's over my shoulder, this shoulder.

00:01:31.460 You guys recognize him just sort of behind the Western Standard logo there?

00:01:38.100 Well, if you don't, that's Stephen Gilboa.

00:01:40.360 So we'll talk about Gilboa today.

00:01:41.860 One of the reasons I'm so happy right now.

00:01:44.780 And the main topic, though, today, of course, the show's all about you guys, right?

00:01:49.460 the show's about you guys um it's we're doing a call-in talk show so it it really is dependent

00:01:56.400 on you guys and gals calling in and making the topics about things that you guys want to talk

00:02:02.060 about and gals um and as i've said before if you call please leave your name and uh tell us where

00:02:09.820 you're calling from and then what you want to talk about and don't be shy um things i want to talk

00:02:15.400 about today i'll do a little bit of a monologue to start it off you know i want to the title today

00:02:20.440 is i don't know if you guys can see the title i always provide a title sort of to to john maybe

00:02:25.560 the title shows up on the youtube and on wherever platforms it doesn't show up directly on the

00:02:30.460 screen but the title today of course is a referendum on a referendum you know danielle

00:02:35.060 smith walking the tightrope uh i'll give my thoughts on that but other things definitely

00:02:40.480 on the topic hopefully today.

00:02:44.060 The Jason Kenney versus Keith Wilson debate

00:02:46.960 was on Monday.

00:02:47.820 That was a big event.

00:02:49.320 It's the five-year anniversary,

00:02:51.040 I think yesterday or the day before,

00:02:52.600 five-year anniversary of the Kamloops

00:02:54.320 residential school ground penetrating survey,

00:02:57.500 radar survey, Gilbo resigning,

00:03:00.600 other people potentially resigning,

00:03:02.820 the Western premiers meeting in Kananaskis

00:03:05.020 and a few other stories.

00:03:06.580 So, all right.

00:03:07.740 So subsequent to the show last week, Danielle Smith had her press release and made a pre-recorded press release.

00:03:16.120 She didn't change it.

00:03:16.980 I thought she might change a few things in light of court rulings and ministers resigning.

00:03:23.780 But no, she had her press release and she talked about what we thought she was going to talk about, which is a question on independence on the referendum.

00:03:33.980 But she caught us off guard with the wording of that question.

00:03:36.960 right so danielle is committed to um she's committed to democracy okay so she's a libertarian

00:03:45.520 she's committed to democracy and giving the citizens of alberta better tools so kenny's the

00:03:51.040 one who gave us the the um citizens initiative act initially and then uh danielle refined it so

00:03:58.320 the you know she's in favor of giving albertans a voice uh the voice that the attempt at first

00:04:05.360 didn't work out too good.

00:04:07.180 Court struck down the current petition.

00:04:12.680 But Danielle said that's not going to stop

00:04:15.640 the will of the people, right?

00:04:18.260 She recognizes that all told,

00:04:20.340 there's about 700,000 people

00:04:21.960 who voice their opinion one way or another

00:04:24.080 on different petitions

00:04:25.760 and want a referendum on independence. 0.96

00:04:30.200 So she's kind of compromising 1.00

00:04:32.000 and she's going to give us a question

00:04:35.140 And the question basically asks, I don't know, John, if you can find the question, the question asks, the wording along the question is, should we start the process of holding a referendum on independence?

00:04:50.000 So a referendum question on whether or not to hold a referendum.

00:04:54.000 I'll come back to that.

00:04:55.620 I wanted to finish my little monologue, but let's go because I already got a call on the line.

00:04:59.780 Maybe we're going to have a busy day.

00:05:01.100 So go ahead, caller.

00:05:02.020 Where are you calling from and what's your name, please?

00:05:05.140 Wait, are you able to hear me?

00:05:06.620 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:08.800 Okay, so I'm actually in North Idaho, and I guess my question is that,

00:05:12.240 and I know that Canadians are kind of world famous for holding meetings

00:05:15.700 about future meetings to consolidate and maybe get consultations

00:05:21.160 from endless groups to hold future meetings.

00:05:24.020 Is Alberta really going to get played by, I guess, Smith's base?

00:05:28.040 I guess I see Smith, at least from an American point of view,

00:05:31.720 as kind of the gal who's going to rug pull you guys every time you guys get close

00:05:35.140 to sniffing freedom or any form of independence especially since didn't she run on all kinds of 1.00

00:05:40.600 stuff that should have already been done to make you guys more independent from ottawa

00:05:44.340 100 i mean no i uh thanks for the thanks for the question the comment stay on the line because i

00:05:51.040 got questions for you but um okay yeah it's a combination i mean i i yeah some depends on the

00:05:56.880 day you ask me the question someday when you ask me that exact question i'd say no she's going to

00:06:00.920 pulled the rug on us and other days i'd say no she's truly on board with being you know as

00:06:06.620 providing as much of a democratic process as possible this week i'd say uh if i finish my 0.54

00:06:13.560 monologue i was going to say i was i'm leaning more towards she's naive and she's uh going down

00:06:18.740 a very um naive path and she's almost interfering so um i mean it's a loaded question but but from

00:06:26.860 so what's your what's your take from north idaho i'm i'm always interested so what what do

00:06:31.980 americans think of what's going on in alberta specifically right now well because because

00:06:38.380 we're written because we we're we're right there at the border about 70 miles away and albertans

00:06:43.580 and then there's a there's a plot of uh british colombians and saskatchewans i guess but where

00:06:50.300 they're normal they're regular people they work hard um and i guess they kind of basically fund

00:06:55.740 the rest of the country um it's just kind of one of those things where you're kind of like one of

00:06:59.500 those you just kind of view it like man these people didn't even have a choice to become a

00:07:02.940 province uh they're ran or they're absolutely full with conservative citizens yet their

00:07:10.060 government never do anything to break any kind of independence from even smaller things it's almost

00:07:15.820 like it's almost like the provinces all have to follow kind of like okay here you're gonna do

00:07:20.060 your schooling this way okay you're gonna flood your area with a whole bunch of replacement pop

00:07:23.820 you know you're going to do all these things it's like our province is not allowed any kind of uh

00:07:29.020 freedom in running their own uh their own uh retirement funds running their own schools the

00:07:35.340 way that they want and you know removing so it's just kind of weird that you've got so many salt

00:07:40.060 of the earth kind of people i mean they're also kind of they also they also know how to party but

00:07:44.060 salt of the earth kind of people yet they're they allow themselves to be kind of ran by

00:07:49.100 pretty pretty i don't know what yeah like around here we call them rhinos but

00:07:53.820 pretty weak it's almost like we're gonna pass a new tax on you but here let's pray first yeah no

00:07:58.400 listen boy we could you and i could probably have a long chat so i'll i appreciate the call

00:08:03.740 i'll i'll let you go and but i'll keep answering well stay on the line i'll just answer a couple

00:08:08.180 things back to your original question to your original question uh nobody's gonna let us go

00:08:13.920 easily it doesn't matter right so alberta is not gonna be let go easily and danielle is playing

00:08:19.420 this tightrope line of helping but not necessarily helping i mean we all recognize she's a politician

00:08:24.480 she fundamentally took an oath to the king who's our sovereign leader and so she can't be bluntly

00:08:31.480 openly separatist so so i think at the end of the day she's going to oppose more than help that's

00:08:37.760 that's my thoughts um agree agree um to the other part we in canada we're different than you guys

00:08:44.360 in the u.s i mean we're that's why alberta's fighting alberta's trying to fight we don't

00:08:48.420 to become an american state but we want to be kind of like you guys are and the way we were

00:08:53.540 designed to be our original confederation was that each province was supposed to be

00:08:58.020 as you describe uh its own health care its own republic it's a mini republic and then and

00:09:04.980 confederation is just a collaboration but all ottawa has been overreaching and taking power

00:09:10.020 over time and we're not we're a bunch of nice people who give up that power easily that's

00:09:14.900 that's the answer so tonight yeah too nice yeah too compliant i and i don't know how you instill

00:09:21.140 non-compliance we didn't fight the way you guys did you guys have a different start to history

00:09:25.940 you fought for your independence from the king and after the king of england saw what you guys did

00:09:31.780 the king said oh i better give the canadians a little bit of something but make sure they never

00:09:36.020 do what the americans did so we were given a bit of freedom uh we didn't fight for it we didn't

00:09:41.540 earn it and we certainly don't appreciate it the way you guys appreciate it that's my thoughts

00:09:45.460 i appreciate the call man thanks for calling you're i think you're my first american to call

00:09:48.820 cheers i appreciate it marty keep up the great work all right thank you so uh wow great start

00:09:55.520 so just to finish on the thoughts right and it his question do wrap into what i was going to say

00:10:00.540 so danielle is offering um her her explanation is i got to keep the democratic process going the

00:10:07.200 the Albertans have a large percentage of Albertan, you know, let's call it a third of the province

00:10:13.420 is talking about independence. And she can't allow the courts to just block that. Even though the 0.97

00:10:18.300 courts have blocked it, she will appeal it. But she recognizes that the clock is going to run

00:10:25.440 out for a referendum this year. So she's giving us an alternative, which is a referendum on a

00:10:30.640 referendum. I personally don't like that because now we have to win two referendums. We have to

00:10:35.640 win this one. And if we don't win this one, we're done. And if we win this one, then we get a

00:10:39.840 referendum on independence and then we have to win that one. So we have to win two in a row. And that

00:10:43.840 gives the other side two opportunities to knock us off. And when I think about it at a high level, 0.50

00:10:49.960 I see Danielle being a politician and playing, you know, trying to please everybody, trying to

00:10:56.980 please the separatists, trying to please the separatist side of her party, trying to make 0.58

00:11:02.440 sure nenshi doesn't get into power trying to appease um uh government workers who are worried

00:11:10.000 about independence she's trying to work with ottawa and try you know what i mean so she's

00:11:14.880 to me she's walking a tightrope and it's it's too tight it's too risky and i think it's gonna

00:11:22.220 she's i think she just made a misstep because if you look at what has happened to her this week

00:11:27.920 her her claim like she the fact that she's helped uh that she's being democratic nobody's hearing 0.97

00:11:35.900 that nobody nobody hears that all they hear or all they want to hear is that danielle is a

00:11:41.140 separatist even though she keeps saying over and over and over and over that she's going to be on 0.97

00:11:46.960 the stay side doesn't matter uh the mainstream media went all in on uh labeling her as a

00:11:54.320 separatist and as pandering to a certain group right the separatist group so i so i don't know

00:11:59.640 i see the events of thursday last week kind of backfiring on her but time will tell i mean

00:12:07.340 luckily uh the alberta legislature is in recess right now until after the referendum until after

00:12:15.020 october so we'll see what happens but on the same side um i see one of the people she's trying and

00:12:21.580 leave that question up there john i'll get to it in a second but um part of the tightrope that also

00:12:27.660 uh worries me is that she's keeps saying over and over right she that she's confident that she can

00:12:36.300 get us a better deal within confederation right she's always said that she references the mou

00:12:41.020 and stuff like that but on on the other side i don't think i think she's naive in thinking she

00:12:49.820 she can make the changes. And I think she won't be. And on the other side, Carney won't be able

00:12:54.360 to make the changes. We've seen it already this week, right? The moment he starts offering nice

00:13:00.300 things to Albertans, like an MOU with a potential pipeline, the moment he starts, the moment we

00:13:06.800 are perceived as getting something nice, the rest of the country, the East gets upset. We're not

00:13:11.520 allowed to have nice things, which is why that guy over my shoulder resigned yesterday. He had

00:13:18.140 quit, not the caucus, but he had resigned as a minister last year when Carney announced the MOU.

00:13:27.500 That upset him, that upset Guilbeault, and now he's so upset that he actually quit. He literally

00:13:33.580 said, I cannot stand by Carney as he reverses all these policies. Whoa, okay. I'll get back to

00:13:44.860 the question that's on the on the screen let's go to the caller because i don't want to lose

00:13:49.740 callers online so go ahead name where are you calling from please hi i'm sue i'm from rural

00:13:57.500 beaver county nice to have you on the show sue what's on your mind um i just uh i noticed on

00:14:06.780 the mainstream media lately uh the separatists are being called irritated or frustrated that's

00:14:14.060 the names i can kind of remember which seems kind of mild and i thought that our side of the sense

00:14:21.260 should start telling them how we really feel so we're really mad not irritated or frustrated

00:14:28.940 and with that in mind i think we should also change uh the rhetoric that we say

00:14:36.460 what's bothering us are the threats from the from ottawa things like i heard from jason kenney

00:14:44.060 uh the other day about oh these separatists will lose their passport um yeah that's what they're

00:14:51.660 going to lose um but i think we should uh emphasize more what's really going on and what we really feel

00:14:58.540 about the censorship coming to us from bills in parliament that are going to uh clamp down

00:15:05.500 on what we can say and what we can do making uh snowbirds that cross the border that that are

00:15:12.780 holding their guns what's gonna happen to those people that decide to leave in

00:15:17.840 October November this year to head south for the winter are since they haven't

00:15:24.240 handed their guns in are they gonna be loaded up in and put in jail when they

00:15:28.500 ride at the border I'm really concerned about that one okay I mean I don't yeah

00:15:34.620 I'm not in that boat but I'm really worried stay on the line to you lots to

00:15:40.920 unpack there you brought up about three or four points and i'll try and you know maybe we'll have

00:15:44.940 a back and forth um so you watched it did you watch the debate with between kenny and uh and

00:15:50.720 keith or you just saw clips of it yes i did you what okay um no i've watched

00:15:57.400 okay good um you know i i i i think there's going to be rhetoric on both sides

00:16:05.280 for for a while i mean that's that's how unfortunately that's just the reality of

00:16:10.520 the world. But I also do think that we're entering a new phase, right? There was the petition

00:16:17.500 collecting signatures and stuff like that. And then there was the defeat by the courts.

00:16:21.940 And I think there's been a realization by the separatist movement that we can't be about

00:16:26.620 rhetoric. We need to start getting organized and really building a case of why we're, to your

00:16:33.520 words, we're frustrated, we're mad, right? We're pissed off. And I think we have valid reasons to

00:16:39.880 be so and and i and when we i we're going to start raising the the reasons why it's not just

00:16:46.760 pipelines right we're underrepresented in the house of commons we're underrepresented in the

00:16:52.220 senate and even if we had the proportionate representation we're going to get overruled

00:16:56.580 because there's 30 million people in that little triangle between you know ottawa toronto and

00:17:00.960 montreal versus five of us here so um i i think the the tone of the debate might change

00:17:07.600 but on the other hand you're right you got the other side that keeps throwing this really nasty

00:17:13.860 um you know almost lies like you mentioned you know people are saying oh you're going to lose

00:17:21.320 your passports and stuff like that which we know is not true so i i don't know how to exactly

00:17:26.700 address i think we will address that in the coming you know three four months we're gonna

00:17:31.080 we're gonna tone down the rhetoric and get more to facts does that make sense

00:17:36.060 Yes, I wasn't quite so worried about the passport thing.

00:17:42.240 I knew that was a lie as that's really, I feel what's going on here is lying, but I'm

00:17:50.560 kind of more worried about these bills that they keep pushing through.

00:17:53.820 I know some of the stuff will be eliminated from the bill, so tear them down to something

00:17:59.740 more manageable.

00:18:00.800 The loss of cash and the loss of use of our gas-powered vehicles, those are two huge things that I really, really am worried about.

00:18:11.620 And we just have to push harder.

00:18:13.700 We've got to show people really what the threats are.

00:18:17.240 The threat isn't of us separating from Canada.

00:18:20.360 The threat is what's going to happen to us when we stay under Ottawa's rule.

00:18:25.180 Yeah, I mean, I think you're preaching to the choir here.

00:18:29.400 almost everybody that's listening is on board with what you're saying sue i mean we we get it

00:18:34.020 we just gotta convince uh a handful maybe a million of our fellow albertans in particular

00:18:40.180 we we don't even need to worry about the rhetoric that's coming from let's say ottawa or whatever

00:18:45.060 well we do need to worry about it because it does sway some people but more importantly just focus 0.71

00:18:49.320 on your you know your unconverted neighbors and convert them over to our system our uh our our 0.52

00:18:55.480 movement is the best thing you can do uh just before you go i'm i we haven't talked about the 0.92

00:19:01.680 gun grab in a while and it's not even on the news and that's a you bring up a great point like in

00:19:06.000 october if the liberals don't extend the amnesty a whole bunch of us like i'm predicting you know

00:19:11.860 two three hundred thousand albertans will become criminal in the eyes of the law because they will

00:19:16.940 they're not they will be in non-compliance and they'll have banned firearms that's a that's

00:19:21.460 something that the liberals are absolutely going to have to address and we've been critical of

00:19:25.640 Danielle on that one too because she promised us something like an Alberta gun permit that she's

00:19:30.040 she she thinks she has an idea to address it but she hasn't addressed it I'm in that boat I'm in

00:19:34.480 that boat I'll admit it uh I have banned firearms that I'm holding on to and and for me it is a um

00:19:41.660 it's a line in the sand I'm not turning them in appreciate the call Sue thank you right uh I think

00:19:49.220 go ahead sure thanks

00:19:51.380 oh okay

00:19:52.920 um i i really

00:19:55.180 i really think i really think

00:19:57.360 that uh our side of the fence

00:19:59.180 should uh spread uh

00:20:00.700 do the play the same game

00:20:02.940 that they're playing use the fear card

00:20:05.240 uh i think we're

00:20:07.160 not if we're not playing their game we're not

00:20:09.100 going to win fair enough

00:20:10.800 all right appreciate the call thanks too

00:20:12.480 um john bring up those two

00:20:14.740 uh quick ones on the screen there

00:20:16.680 uh these are called super

00:20:18.940 as folks i'm sure some of you know these uh you know people pay a few bucks and then it gets uh

00:20:23.980 their chat gets promoted up on the screen so i'm going to read that one from uh dirt mcferguson

00:20:29.820 and i know that gentleman he's made comments on some of my other shows derp says smith can use

00:20:34.780 the referendum ambiguity as a political versus ottawa she has no reason to resolve it lukazik's

00:20:40.620 referendum isn't blocked and is useful let's let's support l's lukazics to be on the ballot and push

00:20:49.420 for no yeah i i think that sale that ship has sailed unfortunately there i think uh danielle

00:20:55.900 has told us what she's doing and we're going to have a referendum on whether or not to have a

00:20:59.740 referendum john while you leave that one up there maybe find the question that danielle proposed

00:21:05.340 And I'll read this one from R.C. Lamour for 20 bucks.

00:21:08.700 Oh, thank you.

00:21:10.000 Canadians will soon have to decide whether to stay together in the new Republic of Canada

00:21:14.420 or go independent province by province with arrests looming in the...

00:21:18.760 With what? Arrests looming in the federal and provisional governments.

00:21:22.680 We are embarking on a new Canada.

00:21:26.140 Oof.

00:21:28.560 Yeah, well, that's what this summer is going to be about.

00:21:30.800 It's going to be an interesting summer.

00:21:33.160 We're going to...

00:21:35.340 The first part of your question, I agree with this thing.

00:21:38.940 I guess I'm not aware of arrests looming in the federal and provincial government.

00:21:43.720 I guess. Well, I've always hoped for arrests.

00:21:46.580 I really would. Like how many times have we said that?

00:21:49.440 Right. Politicians break our laws and there are no consequences.

00:21:53.340 I mean, when's the last time a politician in this country actually faced some serious consequences for breaking a law?

00:22:00.500 Been a long time.

00:22:01.580 So there's the question that Danielle is proposing to add to the October 19th referendum. Should Alberta remain a province of Canada or should the government of Alberta commence the legal process required under the Canadian Constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada?

00:22:19.960 To me, that's too complicated and that's two questions. So it remains to be seen if that's exactly the way it goes on the ballot. If it does, I think that's confusing and it opens another possibility for a court injunction or an appeal or somebody to make a claim that the question is too complicated. We'll see. We'll see.

00:22:41.440 um all right so i was uh so we were talking about uh smith so i think smith is walking a tight rope 0.97

00:22:50.400 um that that and she's making promises that potentially she can't deliver on

00:22:57.180 we'll see oh i don't okay i love a day like this i'm not gonna i i this is all about you guys so

00:23:03.660 i'm immediately going to the callers let's go to the caller what's your name where are you calling

00:23:07.360 from please uh hi it's mark calling from calgary hey mark how are you well pretty good thanks um

00:23:17.840 yeah i just i just wanted to call you know call about the you know your headline at daniel says

00:23:22.720 political payroll um indeed i totally agree that she's walking a pretty fine line uh trying to

00:23:30.320 to plead a lot of people, and we all know what happens when you try to plead everyone.

00:23:34.640 But I look at Mark Carney right now, and if you have 14 Liberals signing a document saying

00:23:43.680 they are not happy with the signing of these memorandums regarding pipelines, I think that

00:23:52.200 is just an absolute gift for the sovereign distribution.

00:23:57.060 It just goes to show that Mark Carney has problems in his own party where he is going

00:24:03.220 to have to make a choice.

00:24:06.060 And the reason I think it's a gift, it exposes the hypocrisy of what's happened for all these

00:24:13.340 years of Alberta complaining against Ottawa, doing this, you know, da-da-da, and people

00:24:20.860 saying, oh, just keep quiet, keep quiet.

00:24:23.020 And now we find out that probably majority Quebec liberals, sure, there's some BC liberals in there. But I, you know, I'm no strategist, but I think now we can pose the whole thing, bring it to the surface. This isn't Alberta against Ottawa. This is Alberta against Quebec.

00:24:43.300 i completely agree mark stay on the line i i actually had this down here you know as part

00:24:49.540 of gilbo resigning i had a question about who else is going to resign and the 14 disgruntled mps

00:24:55.300 he's hint he's talked about it i wonder if gilbo i don't think gilbo is going to go away quietly

00:25:00.420 right i think he will talk about who these 14 mps are but to your point i don't think it's

00:25:06.740 i i wouldn't label it as hypocrisy i would label it as we're actually seeing the truth right i i

00:25:12.340 I used to wonder if these MPs that believed in climate change were only doing it to line their own pockets.

00:25:19.600 But we're beginning to see that some of them truly, truly, truly believe that Alberta is destroying the planet, that oil and gas has to be eliminated.

00:25:31.460 We're seeing that, right? It's not hypocrisy.

00:25:33.560 They're showing us their true colors, and we need to appreciate that they think differently than we do.

00:25:38.520 but so they're activists yes yes yeah so gilbo's not alone i agree like who i mean and did you see

00:25:47.580 the the like oh my god it was a weird uh press conference but elizabeth may praising gilbo almost

00:25:54.060 to the point of being in tears like so i'll ask you do you think uh do you think gilbo will go

00:26:00.420 away quietly or do you think he's is he going to reappear somewhere or is he going to rock the boat

00:26:04.740 and sort of attack and be mean to Kearney.

00:26:08.420 What's your thoughts?

00:26:10.300 Oh, I think he's definitely going to reappear somewhere.

00:26:13.640 And by him saying that, you know, there's potentially others to come,

00:26:18.580 I don't know whether it's a new party or whatever,

00:26:21.840 but you are going to see some level of activism from him.

00:26:24.660 I mean, the guy was, what, scaling the CN Tower or doing something.

00:26:28.020 I mean, this guy is still in the Save the Whale mode.

00:26:32.780 So he's just showing that the stain he has for what we're trying to do out in Western Canada.

00:26:40.940 And, again, you know, another thing, how's he going to get, you know, the media support?

00:26:47.400 Because if he attacked Carney, now that's going to be a problem, again, for Carney.

00:26:53.380 Because Carney has to keep those people that signed that letter happy.

00:26:59.660 Because Carney's painted into that corner.

00:27:02.640 He will choose those people rather than Alberta.

00:27:06.120 We know that.

00:27:07.300 MOUs are just lip service.

00:27:09.400 Yeah, no, I appreciate that, Mark. 1.00

00:27:10.780 Great, great comments.

00:27:14.080 You know, Gilbo is a true radical, and there are others like him, perhaps he's 14.

00:27:20.580 And then it's not just environmental radicals, right?

00:27:22.820 We talked earlier in the show about the gun grab.

00:27:25.080 like that that lady um from uh police who became a minister she's a radical like these people are

00:27:31.720 are downright radical and have entered politics as a way to put uh to advance their own personal

00:27:38.440 agendas it has nothing to do with making the country better so um yeah appreciate the call

00:27:43.320 thank you so much hey john can i just go ahead oh sorry i'm i'm just gonna speak in one little thing

00:27:49.880 I was just going to say, I've worked in the oil patch 40 years, you've got a little bit

00:28:03.060 of gray hair around you working in the oil patch, do you ever remember us supplying oil

00:28:08.380 to that strategic reserve that nobody ever has called out Kearney or that champagne about?

00:28:14.520 Where is that?

00:28:15.520 Nope.

00:28:16.520 Where is it Marty?

00:28:17.520 We talked about that in the show about a month or two months ago.

00:28:21.300 Yeah, Canada has no strategic reserves and the mainstream media, when he mentioned that, failed at their job.

00:28:28.300 That's what you're hinting at, right?

00:28:29.620 They should have pointed that out.

00:28:30.920 Absolutely.

00:28:31.780 The Americans have a strategic reserve.

00:28:34.360 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:34.700 Thank you, Mark.

00:28:35.220 Take care.

00:28:35.680 Thank you.

00:28:37.160 John, perfect segue because we talked so much about Gilbo.

00:28:40.260 So you guys know that this week, the Western Standard finally started doing what a lot of other channels and businesses do, started offering merchandise.

00:28:52.100 And so there's, what's the link?

00:28:55.160 If you know how to get to the Western Standard website, you'll find the merch store right there on the website.

00:29:03.560 But, and then the merchandise, visit westernstandardstore.news.

00:29:08.980 And so some of the merchandise is your typical stuff, right?

00:29:12.500 Hats like this.

00:29:13.400 Everybody loves hats.

00:29:14.300 I mean, this is the new logo.

00:29:16.260 And then you got hats with the old logo.

00:29:19.700 You got stuff like this, right?

00:29:21.800 Hoodies with the Alberta, what do you call this one?

00:29:26.180 The weathered, the monochromatic Alberta emblem, a shield.

00:29:32.800 And then if you go to the website, there's more than that.

00:29:35.680 There's coffee mugs and stuff like that.

00:29:37.220 but it's also broken down into sort of categories.

00:29:39.840 And one of the more popular categories right now

00:29:42.200 show the Gilbo category.

00:29:45.000 So, well, there's Stephen Gilbo in his famous jumpsuit, right?

00:29:48.600 Gilbo, before entering politics, was a radical activist,

00:29:53.280 I mean, known for having climbed.

00:29:54.740 I think that's the jumpsuit he was wearing

00:29:56.620 when he got arrested after climbing the CN Tower.

00:30:01.300 I think he, did he once, somebody correct me on this,

00:30:05.120 but I think he once even protested in front of Ralph Klein's home.

00:30:09.060 I'm pretty sure of that.

00:30:10.040 But maybe show, John, can you show?

00:30:12.360 Yeah, there you go.

00:30:13.040 So those are two of the best sellers right now.

00:30:16.260 That mug, the Stephen Gilbo mug, is a best seller.

00:30:20.080 And I don't know if you can see the backside of the mug,

00:30:22.020 but the backside of the mug says, I love oil and gas.

00:30:24.900 So get yourself one of those.

00:30:27.540 And if you use, I don't know where it is.

00:30:31.300 I think it's going to be underneath in the description of this video.

00:30:35.120 there'll be a discount code. So if you're using, it's probably going to be Marty 10 or something

00:30:39.700 like that. You get a 10% discount code for ordering some stuff on there. Awesome. Awesome.

00:30:45.920 Awesome. Just staying on that subject real quick. So yeah, Gilbo resigned. Now, of course,

00:30:52.900 he's going to stay on and milk it for as long as possible. Parliament, Alberta's in recess,

00:31:00.320 But the federal parliament is still going until June 20th.

00:31:04.580 So about another month.

00:31:05.780 And then it recesses from June 21st until September 14th.

00:31:10.520 So Gilboa is going to stay on, I suspect, until about June 21st.

00:31:14.800 And but once he leaves, the majority still exists.

00:31:19.820 I think for an exact majority, you need 174 seats with Gilboa going.

00:31:26.540 the liberals will have 173 to the other parties 172 but um there's also it's not a rumor um

00:31:36.620 minister wilkinson uh he will also be resigning shortly because it's been announced that he is

00:31:43.900 being appointed as canada's ambassador to the european union so he's gone and then there are

00:31:51.820 There are a few rumors of others that, like we've mentioned in recent weeks, the Ontario Liberals are holding their leadership race in the near future.

00:32:02.500 And so some federal Liberals might leave, all to say that it's likely that sometime that by the end of June, when Parliament recesses, Carney will have lost his majority.

00:32:15.360 Now, he can re-win it by having some by-elections, but then most by-elections never occur in the middle of summer, so he'd wait until September for his by-elections.

00:32:28.360 And what that means is in the next four weeks, the Liberals have a very weak majority, like a two-vote majority, which gives them a little bit of wiggle room to try and pass a couple of laws, but I don't think they'll succeed in doing anything.

00:32:41.580 I went and watched, I went and looked at the website to see what bills are being worked on.

00:32:47.080 We keep hearing about Bill C-22 and some of the other ones that are getting a lot of resistance.

00:32:52.160 And beyond that, there's nothing really impressive in the list of bills.

00:32:56.120 So Carney knows that he's not risking anything right now.

00:32:59.540 He's not putting forth anything too, too controversial.

00:33:02.580 And he's doing the same thing as Danielle Smith.

00:33:05.440 He's navigating his own party, as the previous caller said. 0.85

00:33:09.920 Like he's on the verge of losing it because he's got some crazy radicals.

00:33:15.100 And he's moved some of those radicals out of the way.

00:33:17.140 And I think he's probably identified them and he needs to get rid of a few more.

00:33:21.080 So it's going to be maybe a quiet summer.

00:33:24.840 Go ahead on the line.

00:33:26.080 Where are you calling from?

00:33:26.860 And name, please.

00:33:30.620 Hey, Marty, how are you?

00:33:32.120 Good, good.

00:33:34.460 It's Diane from Devon.

00:33:36.500 Hey, Diane, how are you?

00:33:37.600 What's on your mind?

00:33:38.240 i'm good um the question daniel's question is a riddle inside of a riddle that's what i would

00:33:48.960 liken it to and um what i think we need to realize and this is what i really come to terms with

00:33:59.240 is that um this is agenda 2030 this is global and everything they're trying to implement in

00:34:07.940 canada is um all the western countries i mean we've just we've discussed this before it's

00:34:15.700 european it's australia it's the digital id it's the uh gun grab and that is what we're

00:34:24.580 we're fighting against a massive cabal it's not just we're fighting against carney but he's a

00:34:32.740 huge part of it because that is where he came from that is that is those are his

00:34:39.540 peers that is where he has come from he just got parachuted into Canada he's

00:34:44.740 never held an elected office before and that's what we're up against and I don't

00:34:50.860 know how can we really fight that even with our Constitution or our what do you

00:35:00.460 call it our um charter of rides or not our constitution but the charter whatever's in the

00:35:06.900 charter can can we actually fight this massive dark cloud with what we have and i know it's

00:35:16.120 grassroots and i know it's people that are fighting for their heart for not for canada anymore they're

00:35:22.820 fighting for the future of our children and our grandchildren but can we can we really fight that

00:35:29.240 now short answer is we have no choice right uh diane we have to i i i tend to agree with you

00:35:36.920 it's um um there are big powers that be i agree that carney was uh placed right trudeau was

00:35:45.640 screwing it up and then uh and then they had to replace trudeau and bring in carney and now i

00:35:49.640 think carney's had this real realization after a year that like oh it really was screwed up

00:35:55.400 and he's trying to he's trying to clean it up by by uh bringing the agenda back but he knows he

00:36:02.560 can't do it quickly right he knows that the cleanup getting rid of people who are incompetent

00:36:06.940 and other things is is uh is problematic for him i mean yeah he has real problems he's trying to

00:36:13.240 clean it up and for for his handlers i agree on that i agree on that and and uh we have no choice

00:36:19.620 we have to keep fighting him um uh you you made me think of something but i i lost my thoughts um

00:36:28.740 ah yeah i appreciate the call diane i'm sorry i i lost my thought and anything else you want to add

00:36:34.820 or uh so so how's the sentiment how's the sentiment in devon how are people around you like when you

00:36:40.980 oh i know what i was going to say so um yeah so you and i are on the same page we meet a lot of

00:36:47.620 of people that are on the same page.

00:36:49.020 So get it my my frustration and maybe it's yours, too, is how do you explain people that

00:36:54.340 can't see it and want to like, how do we explain the in Canada group?

00:36:58.980 Like who's going to vote no to this referendum?

00:37:02.240 Do you know what I mean?

00:37:02.860 Like, how how could people not see what's going on? 0.99

00:37:05.180 Do you do you meet people like that that are just blissfully ignorant? 0.97

00:37:08.320 Yeah, yeah, yes. 0.95

00:37:10.660 And I'm 65 years old.

00:37:12.580 so that my demographic a lot of the people I like I'm amazed what comes out

00:37:20.440 of their mouth they just I think part of it is they just want to ignore it and

00:37:28.600 pretend everything in Canada the downfall of Canada everything that we've

00:37:33.800 talked about repeatedly they just want to pretend it's not happening right and

00:37:39.080 and then there's people like me who are saying kids grandkids we are looking we are seeing what

00:37:47.000 the future is going to hold for our families but the rest of those people they're just like checked

00:37:53.000 out they just and to try to explain it to them not fight with them but just even try to talk

00:37:59.480 to them in a civil manner and explain it to them they just start pulling all these crazy things

00:38:06.440 out of the air and like honestly sometimes i just walk i walk away i'm like where where the

00:38:12.760 heck did that even come from like it's it's it's beyond my logic and my rationale that i i just

00:38:19.000 don't understand it well thanks for the call don't give up you're you're you're in the right group

00:38:24.280 you're talking to the people you're you're part of a a movement that sees what's happening and then

00:38:30.360 don't lose hope there's a lot of us right there's there's 300 000 people that signed that petition

00:38:35.400 And I think there's at least as many who didn't sign it,

00:38:39.780 but have the same sentiment.

00:38:41.060 So thanks for the call.

00:38:42.740 Have a great weekend.

00:38:45.100 I'm not going to lose hope.

00:38:47.420 I'm going to fight.

00:38:48.440 But I'm just saying I'm in reality.

00:38:52.000 And that's what I see.

00:38:53.560 That's all I'm saying.

00:38:54.460 Thank you.

00:38:55.020 Excellent.

00:38:55.500 All right.

00:38:55.740 Have a great weekend.

00:38:56.760 Yeah.

00:38:57.980 Yeah.

00:38:58.900 I'm going to go and speed up on some of my topics.

00:39:02.120 I had a lot of topics I want to talk about.

00:39:04.120 This is great.

00:39:04.620 this is how i want this show to go right like comments uh john bring up that last uh we had

00:39:09.740 one quick super chat there that we missed on the way by i don't have my tablet in front of me there

00:39:14.460 you go that one uh the mask will soon come off many politicians yeah maybe uh no pun intended

00:39:23.540 but it's a good segue too which is weird there's a lot of masks reappearing right like it just

00:39:28.000 goes to show how fear is so powerful like how who's seen people every day now i see people

00:39:34.320 with masks back on while driving while doing things right like the antivirus and the monkey

00:39:40.180 pox and what's the other one the ebola uh and now they're they're they're um they're they're

00:39:45.840 prepping us you can tell they're prepping us right it's the fifa the soccer world cup is

00:39:50.260 going to be hosted between canada mexico and and uh and the u.s this summer in the coming months

00:39:56.780 and now they're preparing us for the fact that there might be some uh some extra measures um

00:40:03.020 i wanted to talk about the premiers uh the western premiers in canadasis but i got a call and i'm

00:40:09.700 going to take the call so go ahead caller where are you calling from name please

00:40:12.480 hello hello yeah yeah go ahead

00:40:20.140 hi i'm calling i'm curious to know how it is the prime minister is sending all of our money to

00:40:28.320 Ukraine, yet all of a sudden we're in bed with China and China supplies Russia with 60% of its

00:40:34.240 drone capacity. Which side are we supporting? Could you clear that up for me a little, please,

00:40:39.180 Marty? I can't. I'm with you. I think we're on the wrong side. We spend a generation being told

00:40:49.180 that China was the enemy, the US were our allies, and Russia was one of the bad guys. And suddenly,

00:40:57.160 yeah we're in bed now with uh china i i can't explain it i have no way of explaining it and 0.82

00:41:01.640 it worries me because i i don't want to be on the wrong side i don't want to be on team china man i 0.83

00:41:06.040 want to be on team usa yeah i agree with that a hundred percent uh i just there's so much that

00:41:16.440 this gentleman is conflicted on and i don't get how it is people can't see how conflicted and what

00:41:21.960 a liar he is oh i i agree i mean and look at what he did this week right he's he's he's he's we've

00:41:28.440 talked about this a lot i mean he's it's served having a boogeyman having trump next door helps 0.96

00:41:34.480 him right i mean he people don't like trump trump derangement syndrome is real and so carney

00:41:40.140 capitalized on that to get elected but i think he's taking it too far like uh this week we had

00:41:44.940 an opportunity again to uh what do the americans want from us they just want that trade imbalance

00:41:50.480 wants to be smaller. They want some appreciation for the fact that they've been protecting

00:41:55.520 us for all these years. And what do we keep doing? Aggravating them. We had the opportunity

00:41:59.440 to buy, we talked about it last week, buying some Snowbird, the new jets. They could have

00:42:04.400 gone to the U.S. They haven't done that. We needed to buy some new advanced warning radar

00:42:09.960 planes. And then we chose a European competitor instead of an American one. We're antagonizing

00:42:16.720 the u.s and getting embedded with the chinese i didn't vote for that i am so amazed that we as 1.00

00:42:24.400 canadians are allowing him to destroy 70 percent 75 of our exchange with the americans they are our 0.83

00:42:31.840 friend ally and best business partner what are we doing great question thanks for the call i don't

00:42:38.640 know the answer yeah i appreciate it um take care thanks where was that two dollar chat there john

00:42:45.200 did you bring it up oh yeah you brought that one up i think right uh that was the one uh okay um

00:42:52.320 west okay cool so wow what a great show uh thanks everyone see see how easy it is all you do is pick

00:42:59.200 up the phone call us at 866 479 west whatever west stands for and uh and then uh chat with me i'm i'm

00:43:08.000 i'm not a i don't bite i'm just an average joke i got a bunch of things i want to talk about i got

00:43:13.760 I got another 15 minutes.

00:43:15.140 We're good.

00:43:17.560 I was going to talk about the,

00:43:20.120 I was going to talk about the premier's meeting in Kananaskis.

00:43:25.060 Nothing really significant came out of that one,

00:43:28.300 except one thing, right?

00:43:29.700 I'll just wrap it up into this real quick.

00:43:32.520 There is tension between the premiers, the Western premiers.

00:43:36.680 Sorry, this was a Western premiers, right?

00:43:38.420 So Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, BC,

00:43:40.580 and the territories were all there.

00:43:43.760 Wob Canoe sort of took a jab at Premier Smith about whether you know about the referendum question and consulting. And then and then you got EB who still continues to say there won't be any pipelines going across, right. And so it goes back to the earlier theme where where Carney and is making some promises that he's kicking he's passing the buck, right? He's like, Yeah, I'll give you the pipeline. But he's but he's

00:44:13.760 ignoring the fact that he's not going to impose on BC.

00:44:18.120 He's going to give BC the veto.

00:44:20.040 So he's going to let BC be the bad guys in these discussions,

00:44:23.600 or maybe even Manitoba, right?

00:44:25.380 You see what Carney's doing.

00:44:26.780 And so you see it in these meetings, right?

00:44:28.620 Like these two, EB and Wob Canoe,

00:44:32.200 there was tension.

00:44:34.860 Let's just put it that way.

00:44:35.720 There was tension.

00:44:36.800 Smith looked a little bit uncomfortable. 1.00

00:44:38.440 Poor Danielle. 1.00

00:44:39.400 I mean, I'll cut her a bit of slack. 0.87

00:44:42.680 Enjoy the summer, Danielle.

00:44:43.760 there's a recess coming on, but I, I, I mean, I, I want to cut you some slack, but at the same time,

00:44:49.360 I also want to be critical of a bunch of things. I won't even get around to it today, but I got my

00:44:55.460 tax bill this week, my municipal tax bill, all you guys got your tax bill this week and you probably

00:45:02.120 saw a big jump, right? And I saw the big jump compared to last year. It's about, for me, it was

00:45:07.300 about an 8% jump in my tax bill. I think some of you folks are going to get 10, 12, but when you

00:45:12.000 look at that jump in your tax bill my municipality i live in rocky view you know here let me okay

00:45:20.060 let's talk about it real quick when municipalities collect money for themselves but they also collect

00:45:25.960 education money so when you look at your typical tax bill municipal tax bill about half of it is

00:45:31.880 money that goes to the municipality and then the other half goes right back to edmonton so

00:45:35.880 The municipalities collect money on behalf of Edmonton, the education portion.

00:45:41.160 So my tax bill goes up 9% and I'm like, oh, that looks pretty steep.

00:45:45.180 But then when I look, I live in Rocky View and I go, oh, the portion collected by Rocky View is fairly consistent compared to last year.

00:45:51.800 It's like, you know, it went up three or 4%.

00:45:53.940 I'm okay with that.

00:45:54.820 But then when I look at the education component of my tax bill, it went up by like 16%.

00:46:00.440 Well, that's all Danielle Smith, man.

00:46:02.720 That's all Nate Horner, her former minister.

00:46:05.640 We'll talk about this one next week.

00:46:07.560 There's a big jump in our tax bills. 1.00

00:46:10.320 And I think Smith is using the municipalities to do some of her dirty work. 1.00

00:46:15.500 And this huge increase in educational levies, that's all about out-of-control immigration. 0.97

00:46:21.280 That's a topic in and of itself. 1.00

00:46:22.860 So we'll talk about that next week.

00:46:24.180 But yeah, so the premier's meeting in Kananaskis, a lot of tension there.

00:46:29.160 And again, it just shows that there's some there's some real flaws in confederation.

00:46:37.620 I think that's the core message for us, Alberta separatists.

00:46:42.400 OK, it's nothing personal.

00:46:44.480 It's nothing personal.

00:46:45.560 But confederation, the way it was designed, Alberta came into confederation in 1905, almost kicking and screaming.

00:46:52.580 And after 100 years plus, it's not working for us.

00:46:56.300 OK, that's as simple as that.

00:46:57.580 It's not working.

00:46:58.180 We don't get proportionate representation in the Senate, the House of Commons, or in the courts. And we're outnumbered. And the people out east think differently than we do. They truly bought into climate change and totally bought into woke ideologies and all sorts of bizarre things.

00:47:15.880 and they're showing that that's just not a fad for them.

00:47:21.600 It's how they think.

00:47:22.720 They think differently than we do.

00:47:25.340 And therefore, this agreement doesn't work.

00:47:28.500 So we came into it.

00:47:29.580 We tried it.

00:47:30.260 We don't like it.

00:47:31.040 We want to go our own separate ways.

00:47:33.360 And I can make a lot of arguments as to why we need to leave.

00:47:36.820 And I haven't heard too many arguments on the other side as to why we should stay.

00:47:41.380 So that's just, that's how we got to promote the movement in the coming months.

00:47:49.480 All right, right at the top of my list, and I skipped over it, and we never talked about it.

00:47:54.660 And I don't know if other people talked about it on the show this week, John, maybe give me a thumbs up.

00:47:58.480 But yesterday or the day before was the five-year anniversary of the Kamloops Residential School Ground Penetrating Survey.

00:48:09.920 okay so the survey had been done and so all that this is it was five years ago on this week that

00:48:17.180 there was a press conference where somebody said hey uh we use this ground penetrating radar we

00:48:23.320 scan the area uh near the school where somebody thought that there had been a cemetery at one

00:48:29.980 point and we saw some anomalies okay they went as far as saying that they thought those 200 and

00:48:36.340 whatever 15 anomalies were little graves and it's been five years of talking about these things and

00:48:43.480 I've heard every imaginable theory I mean there's people who say that maybe there were graves and

00:48:50.020 and were they mass graves because of atrocities some people say no it's simply a reality that

00:48:55.840 in the 1800s when people died they were buried in a little impromptu cemetery somewhere and

00:49:01.720 might have been a cross at one point made out of wood but the cross is gone right so there's that

00:49:07.400 theory there's the other theory that no there were that the cemetery is not that big there were

00:49:12.760 people who died in school that it was the 1800s you had whatever um diseases were rampant and and

00:49:20.680 and life were tough and unfortunately some people died children died was it malicious who knows

00:49:27.640 we'll never know so but in this instance we're asking a lot of us are asking something very

00:49:33.000 simple if you think there's a cemetery there then just do a little archaeological dig we do

00:49:39.080 archaeology archaeological digs all the time i mean in in in europe they still find bodies from uh

00:49:45.800 from the wars and things like that and they'll dig them up they'll identify they did it this week

00:49:49.720 actually they identified the remains of a of a canadian dead in the first world war so why why

00:49:55.960 such resistance to just digging up a small teeny wee little section of this supposed cemetery and

00:50:03.520 look it up if there's bones it'll be settled once and for all if there's no bones it'll be settled

00:50:08.040 i mean to me that's the frustration it's been five years lots of money spent on this and uh and we're

00:50:15.340 not allowed to ask questions we're not allowed to uh you know we're supposed to believe their

00:50:20.180 what do they call it the first nations have their truth keepers they call it like nah i i'm a little

00:50:27.720 more pragmatic that way i want some real evidence i'm not just going to believe somebody's word

00:50:33.080 take somebody's word and you know that there's something there i want proof so it's been five

00:50:38.520 years and a lot of frustration over that and i think it's actually setting us back right i mean

00:50:44.520 this whole idea of truth and reconciliation in order to have reconciliation we need truth and

00:50:51.040 the truth comes from putting shovels in the ground and digging in that area uh i got another super

00:50:56.720 chat there john if you could please bring it up uh rc lemmer again there's another team playing

00:51:05.360 against america american and canadian business they're the government politicians and bureaucrats

00:51:10.320 tied by nefarious mean all you have to do is look up how russia got uranium

00:51:18.720 okay i'll take your word for it rc a lot to unpack there um i think it's you're bringing it back to

00:51:25.680 something a lot of us are starting to realize i don't even want i actually have careful i have

00:51:31.280 to be careful i don't want to go down this path too much you know in um in social networks we

00:51:36.320 We call it being blue-pilled, red-pilled.

00:51:38.460 You know, have you, like, some of the callers are like, have you awakened?

00:51:42.840 I think I'm awake.

00:51:44.080 I've awakened to a lot of things that are going.

00:51:46.880 I'm red-pilled.

00:51:47.640 But now I'm dangerously close to being black-pilled.

00:51:50.440 And I think some of the people I've called are dangerously close to being black-pilled.

00:51:53.980 Black-pilled means you've actually witnessed what's going on,

00:51:57.760 but now you've also resolved yourself to the fact that it's unchangeable

00:52:00.900 because there's these huge powers that be, which RC brings up, right?

00:52:05.180 Like and lots of people talk about this and and I'm I'm trying hard on many days not to get blackpilled and to to be like Diane and some of the other callers still hopeful that we can control our own destiny and and that that I'm not just a real sheep in the global scheme, if that makes sense.

00:52:27.060 Caller on the line. Go ahead, please.

00:52:30.680 All right, Marty. Yep.

00:52:32.060 uh darter from calmar alberta go ahead how are you i just wanted to make i'm good thanks i just

00:52:41.600 wanted to talk about the reference reference referendum question on the referendum question 0.96

00:52:46.080 yeah but uh considering all the lawsuits and stuff danielle smith just about had to do what 0.94

00:52:53.640 she's done with the question on the question yeah and the way the way i look at it that's just you

00:53:01.040 You know, considering all the world blocks, that's a purest form of democracy.

00:53:07.860 Yeah, no.

00:53:08.700 You know, just ask the public.

00:53:13.020 Go ahead.

00:53:13.860 No, no, I agree.

00:53:14.520 I mean, she's doing something, right?

00:53:17.120 If she hadn't done this, the clock was really running out.

00:53:21.140 We wouldn't have a referendum this year.

00:53:23.760 But let me ask you this.

00:53:25.180 Are you okay with this?

00:53:26.340 Or would you have rather taken a chance and not have a referendum this year

00:53:29.340 maybe wait two years for a proper referendum no i'm uh i'm okay with what she's doing right now

00:53:37.660 but uh if we get a yes on the first question should we have a referendum

00:53:43.020 she should do it before the end of the year have a ref a real referendum

00:53:51.020 well yeah i i see so you're saying if we get a yes on october 19th

00:53:55.260 then hold another referendum, let's say, December 19th, two months later, something like that?

00:54:02.620 Sure. And we can have it all settled and have it all, do all the paperwork,

00:54:07.420 everybody's negotiations, everything. But next spring, we're out of here.

00:54:12.620 Yeah. No, interesting. I think you're overly optimistic there. I mean, if we're a yes on

00:54:18.780 the first question in October, then she'd have to start consulting with the First Nations and

00:54:23.660 and doing a bunch of other things and i i think we would need more than two months to have it on

00:54:27.980 the next referendum but uh hey quick question where's calmar i i i'm trying i'm racking my head

00:54:38.220 oh yeah um now i know why it rings a bell i was there this winter playing i i curled there in a

00:54:46.460 in a little fun bond spiel you guys got a really cool little uh curling hall we had some uh we

00:54:51.420 bond spiel there and you had the fluorescent uh fluorescent curling that was awesome thank you

00:54:58.060 yeah yeah that's all sold and poverty too right oh okay cool awesome all right thanks for calling

00:55:04.780 okay have a good day you too um hey john just uh just on the subject of small towns uh can you find

00:55:11.420 the the lundbeck uh video because we've been talking about albertans and i want to show

00:55:16.460 you guys have seen this video right now pertains are just built a little bit different

00:55:20.220 and this week a video again similar to the guy who went over the cliff snowmobiling this winter

00:55:28.320 here's another crazy guy so the Lundbeck Falls are down by Pincher Creek if you're ever down

00:55:34.400 in Pincher Creek you have to do a little side trip there's kind of a provincial park and there's 0.61

00:55:38.160 these beautiful falls they're about 60 feet high and some crazy Albertan on a jet boat

00:55:44.480 went over the falls earlier this week.

00:55:47.140 Check out this video.

00:55:48.560 Jeez.

00:55:56.040 Here he comes.

00:56:02.620 Look at the boat.

00:56:04.120 Whoa.

00:56:10.480 Oh, that guy, like, I don't know how he hung on there

00:56:13.980 when that boat hit i'm surprised he didn't submarine that boat completely um that's just

00:56:19.800 crazy i i don't know what was going through his mind why he wanted to attempt that but uh he did

00:56:25.500 so yes albertans are just built a little differently all right we got time for a couple

00:56:31.480 of other uh quick uh comment quick things um maybe this one will be more i'm surprised this story

00:56:39.120 didn't make the news more and maybe we'll talk about it more next week but i'm just going to

00:56:43.660 read the headline right so you guys remember the tragedy that happened uh in march 2023 in edmonton

00:56:50.240 um the police got called to a house and when the two younger officers showed up on on um

00:57:00.220 what's the word the unprovoked whatever the guy opened the door and shot the two officers like

00:57:05.240 boom and killed two officers and then turned the gun against himself like a real tragedy right

00:57:10.000 in edmonton three years ago well this week i'll just read the headline a 21 year old edmonton man

00:57:16.600 has been found guilty of three counts of manslaughter for selling a semi-automatic

00:57:20.380 rifle to a teenager who later used a weapon to kill the two officers and himself and on on on

00:57:27.240 first reading that i'm my gut goes what a nasty nasty like that that makes me a little nervous

00:57:33.580 that's precedent right um so maybe maybe maybe so the guy sold the gun illegally get it the guy

00:57:39.700 son sold a gun illegally that's a crime there's definitely punishment for that but the fact that

00:57:44.500 he sold a gun illegally and then then he's held uh liable for how that gun was used and and and

00:57:52.000 the guy who's he didn't pull the trigger he just sold a gun and now he's been found guilty on three

00:57:57.180 counts of manslaughter i mean what if you uh sell a car to a 16 year old kid who then goes on a

00:58:04.520 drinking and driving and kills a pedestrian are you liable for having sold that car i know there's

00:58:10.840 already some liability if you're a bartender and you let somebody out of the bar and they kill

00:58:14.680 somebody because they were drunk there's liability there but you know what i mean like this one makes

00:58:19.320 me worried uh but then i'll throw it back at the judges right what about the judge what about you

00:58:24.840 guys the judges if you're watching this what about the judge who releases somebody on bail

00:58:29.800 a criminal on bail and then that criminal re-offends and commits a crime shouldn't the

00:58:34.840 judge then based on this ruling be held liable in part for what happened so i mean the event was a

00:58:41.400 tragedy um i just don't like this ruling i just don't like this ruling because i because we live

00:58:47.400 in the country of uh based on precedence and even though it doesn't really affect me and i don't

00:58:52.760 think it will ever affect me i'm i'm capable of seeing how some rulings in this country

00:58:57.640 are cans of worms and and i don't like that um running out of time uh want to make one last

00:59:04.360 quick uh i guess we'll talk about airport drugs next week but just a personal note just a personal

00:59:10.360 note my little sister is retiring tomorrow okay and i want to congratulate my sister she worked

00:59:18.280 at one of the famous hospitals she worked at a children's hospital and public relations her whole

00:59:22.600 career. And so I'm getting goosebumps. I'm proud of my sister for having, even though she's a

00:59:28.460 civil servant, she did a great job and she's retiring. Retirements don't happen very often

00:59:34.160 in this day and age. People get fired before they ever have a chance to retire. So I hope she has a

00:59:38.940 nice retirement. But I also want to throw out this one little thing about my sister. So as a public

00:59:44.060 relations officer for this big children's hospital throughout her life, her career, one of her job

00:59:51.080 was to organize and have celebrities come to the hospital you know how celebrities come and they

00:59:55.020 meet with the children right whether it's hockey teams or anybody that comes through town and is

00:59:59.580 doing a concert or whatever and so my sister had almost like hundreds of nhl players come through

01:00:05.640 her office hundreds of celebrities american canadians singers country singers actors all 1.00

01:00:12.320 sorts of people it's incredible who she had in her office and she could have a wall of selfies with

01:00:18.920 all these celebrities she has zero none because she made a conscious decision a long long time

01:00:26.720 ago that her job was about the children and not about the people that she was inviting and she

01:00:32.780 never was opportunistic about all the people that came into her office and i just think that for for

01:00:38.880 for that is absolutely amazing that she did that just wanted to throw that out there so congratulations

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Western Standard - June 01, 2026

MARTY UP NORTH： A referendum on a referendum： Danielle Smith’s political tightrope

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