00:00:00.000welcome back how's everybody doing today um hey i'll tell you honestly i'm in a
00:00:29.920of weird giddy mood feisty mood i'm in a good mood i was going to wear shorts i was going to
00:00:35.980i was going to come to work calling it come to work i was going to come to the studio today
00:00:40.300wearing shorts but then after this i'm heading over to the annual general meeting of a local
00:00:46.780oil and gas company called paydo so i thought i better better dress up a little bit look like a
00:00:51.840shareholder um it is it is that time of year right it's shareholder annual general meetings for
00:00:58.160all industries basically i mean any business in canada that runs on a uh january 1st to december
00:01:05.44031st calendar year usually finish you know waits about three months by march they've they've closed
00:01:12.820out the year finish their books and then they spend time doing their annual reports and then
00:01:17.120now's the season of annual reports and uh i like to go in person i'm glad because uh there was a
00:01:24.960long period there where all annual general meetings were online and i hated that now we're back to
00:01:30.720having them in person and i like going to uh to those meetings especially oil and gas ones
00:01:37.220um so uh call in show folks it's all about you right so this works way better if you call in
00:01:46.280you got the number there down on the bottom uh 1-866-479-WEST uh john the producer is working
00:01:53.620on finding us a um switchboard but i think we've got things working pretty good now so when you
00:01:59.620call uh he he might put you on hold while i'm talking to somebody else but i've got uh we we're
00:02:06.120getting things figured out uh all right where where to go so um i you know the the i think the
00:02:13.560thing i got i got about three topics uh high on my list that i want to talk about today of course
00:02:19.620it's always a topic. It's always independence. And there's definitely been some movement
00:02:24.220on independence. There was a weird event in the legislature yesterday, which I definitely
00:02:29.820want to talk about. Smith had an announcement this morning. She did a minor shuffle on her
00:02:35.440cabinet. I'd like to talk about that. On the Alberta-Ottawa relationship, I definitely want
00:02:41.960to talk about the part two of the MOU in the meeting last week between Smith and Carney
00:02:48.500talking about advancing pipelines i found that one a little bit weird we'll get into details but
00:02:53.900you know he's kind of like saying one thing to us here in alberta and then he rushes over to bc and
00:02:58.660then when he's in bc he's kind of like uh don't worry about what i said to those guys you know
00:03:02.820and he he has sort of two stories and um and i want to talk about the snowbirds just from a
00:03:09.400personal point of view um i i'm i'm always i just don't like what's happening to canada's military
00:03:15.960And this is another example, but it's also speaks to the bigger picture of of of neglect and and failures of the liberals and then a couple of miscellaneous topics.
00:03:28.320But let's so let's talk about what happened in the in the legislature yesterday.
00:03:34.280So as part of as part of the Citizens Initiative Act, any group that petitions the government.
00:03:41.940So there's two in front of the government right now.
00:03:44.220there was the Lukasik petition and the Ms. Sylvester petition.
00:03:51.140The procedure is once the chief electoral officer certifies a petition,
00:03:58.460counts it, then he gives it to the government, to Danielle Smith,
00:04:03.180and she is obligated under the act to form a small committee
00:04:07.820to study what the petition asks, right?
00:04:10.720So the petition doesn't necessarily ask for a referendum.
00:04:12.780them it can ask for a change in policy or something else and so when thomas lukasik handed in his
00:04:19.300petition at the end of last year a committee was formed and the committee is called the
00:04:26.560the special the select special citizens initiative proposal review committee so that's the committee
00:04:33.820it's a six-person committee was formed late last year and four members of the ucp and two members
00:04:40.900of the NDP formed this committee, and then this committee was supposed to study Lukasik's question.
00:04:47.660Now, they didn't meet for most of the last three months. They never met because that we were told
00:04:55.480there was a specific reason for that, which was the government knew that Mitch had filed a petition
00:05:01.820and that there would likely be a second petition. So they were kind of thinking, let's hold off on
00:05:06.280this committee and let's wait until we get the Stay Free Alberta petition and then the committee
00:05:11.280can study both at the same time. Well, as we all know, Mitch's petition is basically null and void
00:05:18.620now because of the courts until there's an appeal. So that's all happening. So nothing much going on
00:05:24.900with Mitch's petition. So bring back to the committee. The committee was meeting yesterday
00:05:29.020to talk about Thomas Lukasik's petition. And the committee turned into a bit of a gong show.
00:05:36.280Because halfway through, so the committee was scheduled to go from 2 o'clock to 4 p.m., just a two-hour long committee.
00:05:44.380And right around the 3 o'clock mark, out comes a press release.
00:05:49.660And the press release basically said that the committee had agreed to a variation or had agreed to some sort of independence question for a referendum, that it was going to make that recommendation to Danielle Smith.
00:06:06.280Well, the committee was taking a break when that happened.
00:06:10.040And when the committee came back and reconvened after their break,
00:06:14.320the NDP immediately raised not just a point of order,
00:06:18.040but a point of privilege and read this news release that had come out.
00:06:25.640And the news release said that the committee had agreed on a motion,
00:06:30.100you know, basically had decided on a question.
00:07:28.380And then that allowed the committee to resume.
00:07:31.740But by then, the committee was running out of time.
00:07:33.420And the committee had decided to run from two to four.
00:07:36.120And so then the next order of business was to try and get the committee extended past four o'clock.
00:07:43.100And at that point, the clerks reminded everybody that the only way to extend the timeline of the committee is by unanimous vote.
00:07:52.840And as soon as it was brought up as a possible motion, the two NDP said no.
00:07:57.540And so the meeting came adjourned right away without having done anything.
00:08:02.580But the interesting thing about that, other than being caught with, you know, with either prematurely, well, by prematurely sending out that memo, it kind of shows that the UCP had a plan all along and their plan was to force some sort of motion and get some sort of vote on a referendum question.
00:08:24.660There's no doubt about that because they issued a memo and they could have done that, right?
00:08:28.740If they hadn't issued that memo and if they had just let the committee proceed, they could have played, done the theatrics and pretended to listen and argued, you know, whether Lukasik wanted a referendum or not.
00:08:41.300Because they brought Lukasik yesterday to the committee.
00:08:44.560And by the way, I watch all this live.
00:08:46.420Like I watch this because I'm still one of those guys who likes to watch the odd committee or watch question periods and things like that.
00:08:53.040I get on my treadmill in the morning or in the afternoon and while I'm running, I got nothing else to do for an hour.
00:08:59.620So I'll just watch some of this stuff.
00:09:02.400And so then I like yesterday, I watched Lukasik trying to argue back and forth with Nixon that, no, he never intended his petition to be a referendum question, blah, blah, blah.
00:09:12.600Now, the Conservatives, had they played this well, would have proposed a motion somewhere near the end of the committee and would have won on a vote three to two.
00:09:24.560And the NDP, there's nothing they could have done about it.
00:09:26.580And then they could have validly said, you know, presented Danielle Smith with some sort of question.
00:09:33.020And by doing what they did yesterday, they made a mockery of the whole process.
00:09:41.240I mean, I understand that, you know, I play both sides of politics and and I understand and I agree with the NDP who are upset about this and with people who are upset with the process.
00:09:53.000I'm even upset about the process myself. Like, even though I know this is going on, when you see it so blatantly, it's a little bit upsetting.
00:10:00.340And as a guy who spent hours collecting signatures, I mean, my preferred course would be that the signatures be counted and the process work.
00:10:10.560And I'll get a question on the referendum the way we intended it.
00:10:16.700Plan B would be a debate, a proper debate on Lukasik's question and maybe get it on the referendum that way.
00:10:24.080But after the theatrics of yesterday, I'm afraid that it's going to be interesting to see how Smith manages to find a solution out of this because she's scheduled for a press conference later this afternoon, almost this evening.
00:11:16.960When you answer, let me know where you're calling from,
00:11:19.760what your name is, and go ahead with a comment or a question.
00:11:23.500Go ahead, call her. Where are you calling from?
00:11:28.320Hey, Marty. Thanks for letting me speak. Nick from Edmonton.
00:11:33.380I heard Mitch say that he was actually told by the Premier's office that it would be better to actually go via the referendum route as opposed to the Cabinet bringing the question in.
00:11:49.560Clearly, that was the wrong route to take.
00:11:52.020is there any issues now between the party leadership and the premier or what's the
00:11:57.880premier doing here it seems like sabotage to me actually that's a good that's a good point just
00:12:03.340stay on the line let's have a chat that when i saw the events yesterday that was almost the first
00:12:08.620thought that crossed my mind is like somebody sabotaged this by releasing it prematurely to
00:12:13.420the press right um listen at this point i i don't i don't nothing's off the table to me right i mean
00:12:22.540we we've seen everything we've seen we've seen injunctions we've seen court battles we've seen
00:12:27.260both sides fighting like i i i honestly don't know what to make of it um so i'm assuming you're a pro
00:12:35.500independence well yes i am but i'm a little confused as to the tax the party's taken because
00:12:41.820clearly there's a conflict now between the party and the leadership the leadership is um i guess
00:12:48.300not a sovereignty while the party is so yeah you uh square the circle right well i mean there's
00:12:56.440only one way to me for me for her to square the circle and that's to go with the membership right
00:13:02.140and then the membership is beyond just the party and the people the mlas the membership is the
00:13:08.100is the 30 000 uh ucp members that meet at agms and the and that that membership is pushing her
00:13:15.920towards uh towards a referendum and towards um severing ties with ottawa and and i i i part of
00:13:24.620me can see that she's trying to play the the the fine line it's a tight rope and she's trying to
00:13:29.580please everybody but at some point she's gonna have to i guess by definition go with what the
00:13:35.080leadership wants does that make sense well it does but i'm also confused by the fact that you decided
00:13:41.940to pile on nine more questions on top of our referendum questions so i'm a little suspicious
00:13:47.480of her motives here but i don't know what do you think about that yeah no um i i've said this
00:13:54.080before i mean my opinion of what danielle's doing changes really weekly you can ask me this question
00:13:59.660today. Today, I'm confused. You asked me the question a month ago, I had more clarity, you
00:14:05.280know, and then, well, if you asked me the question last week, when she's all gleefully
00:14:10.220meeting with Mark Carney and bragging about this pipeline deal and everything else, then I see her
00:14:16.200as being a full-on federalist trying to keep Alberta within Canada. And then today, I think
00:14:24.740we might see something different. She's really, really, really trying to please everyone. And I
00:14:28.800think at the end of the day that's going to be almost impossible to do there's no win-win there's
00:14:33.120no win-win-win-win right like the win-win-win is is satisfy the party satisfy the separatist
00:14:39.220stay in power keep nenshi at bay keep ottawa you know in check i mean the win-win-win is difficult
00:14:46.380and and i think we as a party have as a membership have asked have sort of chosen one path for her
00:14:53.120which is like push for independence but she's she's stubbornly trying to find a win-win-win
00:14:58.420somewhere that's my thoughts thanks nick any party any party comments or that's good nick
00:15:05.320well i i kind of wanted to actually harken back to my first question with regards to the
00:15:11.440referendum itself uh because it seems to me mitch uh was actually misled by the party in even
00:15:18.960starting to get signatures for the referendum um because what but not the party but in the
00:15:25.020premier's office right like uh basically wanting to kind of have this initiative from the bottom
00:15:31.800up where it clearly should have come from the top down it's where the cabinet that should have
00:15:36.800actually fielded the question yeah right so that that's kind of what what really makes me scratch
00:15:42.620my head i mean does she is she not uh responsible to her party chair at all or what how does this
00:15:49.700even work yeah no lots to unpack there and and the other thing that i'll add to that that that
00:15:56.080i've also been a little bit disappointed and and and i'm disappointed with this in a lot of
00:16:00.500governments lately is it she some days i think she's moving too fast i'm always critical of
00:16:06.280governments who move too fast even if they're moving in my favor i'm critical so you know she
00:16:11.340she passed these citizens well uh kenny passed the citizens initiatives act but it didn't really
00:16:16.600get a test until recently with Lukasik and Sylvester, but then it failed some quick first
00:16:24.000passes, right? Remember the judge last year didn't approve the initial question and then it got
00:16:29.140slapped and she changed the law quickly. And now, you know, I don't like that. I don't like
00:16:34.600making laws back and forth between, you know, the courts and the government and then adjusting on
00:16:41.580the fly like maybe maybe there needs to be a rethought on on the whole process um yeah appreciate
00:16:48.180the call nick thanks for calling in have a good one yeah you do um yeah it's um yeah that's a
00:16:56.220that's a real frustration that's a real frustration of mine and that's a real frustration of a lot of
00:17:00.580other people right like the the the law in this instance i get that i get that governments pass
00:17:07.320a law and then the law has to be tested and some laws don't get tested very often you know as an
00:17:14.220example the emergency measures act it got passed like 30 years ago and finally gets enacted and
00:17:19.200then the courts decide that it was incorrect now the government has time to change it in this
00:17:25.960instance the citizens initiative act was passed a you know less than less than a decade ago less
00:17:31.600than five years ago kenny passes it and then it gets tested and it fails gets adjusted gets tried
00:17:37.000again fails gets adjusted like i don't like i don't like that's not a very good process that's
00:17:42.780the engineer in me speaking like you know uh design by trial and error is not my favorite way
00:17:48.480it's an approach you can do it but um sometimes you look a little bit silly doing it that way
00:17:53.740and so um well we'll see so there's um you know the the is the referendum is the possibility of
00:18:02.780an independence question on the referendum dead uh i'm i'm i'm weighing it 50 50 at this point
00:18:09.680and we'll see what the what the premier has to say later this afternoon um she did have though
00:18:16.280a quick press conference or not a press conference there was a there was an event this morning it was
00:18:21.900uh it was televised or on video she did shuffle her cabinet and and again uh this is so new
00:18:30.860haven't had a chance to completely digest it uh people here uh derek uh had a piece on this
00:18:38.060derek predicted some of this quite accurately and uh so go read derek's piece on that but
00:18:44.940two ministers stepped down uh in the last couple of days um all right well let's go with the call
00:18:51.580on the line i i really prefer chatting with people than reading sort of my script but i
00:18:56.380gotta remember where i'm at so i'm talking about minister so go ahead caller where are you calling
00:18:59.820from cochran hey and what's your name stew stew how's it going stew not too bad um daniel
00:19:12.140cliff should fire the people that pushed her into the moq that's my opinion what do you think the
00:19:18.700mo say that again fire who the people that pushed daniel cliff into uh setting up the mou i you're
00:19:29.660You're you're you're I wish you would have called a few minutes from now when I'm I'll dive into the MOU, but I will dive into the MOU.
00:19:37.040I I I used to think that maybe somebody else came up with the MOU and that she was, you know, my my original theory on the MOU was simply that she had a sort of an image problem and some difficulties with with the separatists and and and the NDP and others.
00:19:57.560And my opinion last year, because remember last year when the MOU came, it came just before the annual general meeting in Edmonton. So I used to think that she had some difficulties at the time. Carney had difficulties at the time. And I used to think that they just got together, slapped together this MOU to try and find something, you know, to benefit each other. Both could talk about it positively.
00:20:19.380and i agree and last year i used to think it was a bad deal i think it's an even worse deal
00:20:24.460now that i've seen the details and we'll talk about i'll i want to talk about it a little bit
00:20:29.300later not not just now but i so uh but to your but to your point i don't i think she's i think
00:20:35.480she had a part in it i don't think she just gave it to somebody else interesting yeah well that was
00:20:42.400a big mistake yeah well we'll see so okay so i i've noted it dan thanks for the i'll i'll uh
00:20:48.480I'll, I'll, I'll bring it up in a minute here. I'll keep talking about it, but yeah, I appreciate the call.
00:20:56.440You bet. Yeah, I'm, I'm tempted to jump right into the MOU because it is something I wanted to talk about, but I, but I, I just want to finish on the two ministers that, that resigned yesterday or this week.
00:21:07.000Nate Horner is the was the finance minister. And, you know, he's been a minister for about
00:21:15.940five years now. It's his second term. And me personally, I'm not sad to see him go. I don't
00:21:23.640think he did the best job as a finance minister. That's one of the things that I'm very critical
00:21:30.140of this government is that the budgets have outpaced population growth and inflation.
00:21:40.020And I really wish that Alberta would bring its budget under control and shrink the size
00:21:54.640He's simply saying that he's just not running again in a year from now and is stepping
00:22:00.000down to give whoever is going to replace him time to get up to speed well um i can and cannot buy
00:22:09.060that i mean that's um you know i i think something else happened there but we we won't know maybe you
00:22:15.220guys have an opinion on what happened to nate horner and then uh matt jones he stepped down he
00:22:20.840was in charge of hospitals i think for him it's more and back to nate i think nate might have
00:22:27.280push the wrong way against Smith. And she kind of might have said, you know, you need to step
00:22:33.000aside. And he kind of got displaced. And that's my basic theory. Matt Jones, I think just literally
00:22:41.000his is legit. He's not seeking reelection. And I think being in that portfolio in charge of
00:22:48.120hospitals and everything else, again, he didn't do a very good job there. Just this week, there was
00:22:52.940another story of somebody you know dying while waiting in an emergency room somewhere and and so
00:22:59.180you need somebody really tough to want to tackle Alberta health and and reform that we've talked
00:23:07.760about you know tackling Smith where Smith was a big help in tackling education and going against
00:23:15.120the teachers but she hasn't been very vocal when it comes to going after Alberta health and she's
00:23:19.860left that entirely to her ministers and her ministers are kind of struggling to bring Alberta
00:23:24.980Health under control. So they both resigned. And then this morning, she made the announcement
00:23:31.920of who's stepping in and Horner's being replaced by Nixon, which I find to be a completely
00:23:39.520interesting case. Again, he's been a longtime minister. He wasn't in this cabinet, actually.
00:23:47.980That's an interesting thing. He was snubbed recently, but he's been a minister in the past and he but he has zero financial background, zero whatsoever.
00:24:00.220And I think that's super critical. You know, to me, the finance minister is kind of like the second in command.
00:24:06.880And I really don't see Nixon as being the second in command. So I'm so again, we'll time will tell why he was put there.
00:24:16.040I'm sure if you guys have opinions, let me know.
00:24:18.440And I actually can't even remember who got Matt Jones's position.
00:24:25.420I think it was, I was going to say Lagrange, I thought, maybe got shuffled around.
00:24:41.900So it should make for an interesting press release or press conference later this afternoon.
00:24:47.280I guess we're going to. OK, so if nobody's calling, I guess we'll this does tie in nicely.
00:24:52.200I wanted to talk about the MOU and and I think I want to dive into that one a little bit more.
00:24:59.200Right. So last week, Carney came to Alberta and him and Danielle again did the press conference holding up kind of like the Trump thing.
00:25:10.340And, you know, they hold the MOU with their signatures on it and stuff like that.
00:25:14.440And the MOU, Carney would, let me, let me step back.
00:25:20.180I, I predicted a week, a couple of weeks ago before the by-elections, right?
00:25:25.380When Carney still had his minority government, he was focused on censorship and he was focused on really minor stuff, you know, like food stamps for people and, and GST rebates and stuff like that.
00:25:40.100he wasn't rocking the boat he wasn't he was proposing stuff but he wasn't moving on anything
00:25:44.380and i i said this right very clearly that once he got his majority even though it's small once he
00:25:50.240got his majority we would see a different carny and we are seeing that different carny immediately
00:25:55.360the carny that came visiting here this week is the carny from from from the last decade it's the
00:26:02.500Kearney who's pro, who truly believes in climate change as a calamity.
00:26:08.880It's the Kearney who believes in net zero and then electrifying and doing all these things.
00:26:14.900That's the Kearney that we're seeing now.
00:26:17.780And when he came back this, you know, a year later after signing the MOU, there's been no progress.
00:26:23.720Nobody has stepped up to build a pipeline.
00:26:26.840And Carney and Smith both basically signed an agreement to increase the carbon tax.
00:26:39.220So, John, can you quickly bring up the graph on Canada's greenhouse gas emissions?
00:26:46.020Because I think it sort of explains this quite nicely.
00:26:49.420So that's don't you don't need to go hard into the details, but that's Canada's greenhouse gas emissions, you know, for the last 25 years kind of thing.
00:27:00.500And there's a little arrow there in the middle, which is 2005, which is the year that they they at the Paris Accord and other accords, they agreed that that was the baseline year, which I can't zoom in.
00:27:14.780I think it's 862 or something like that.
00:27:17.760And, and we agreed that we would reduce, not we, I would never agree to this,
00:27:22.900but the liberals agreed that we would reduce,
00:27:25.480Canada would reduce its greenhouse gas emissions to 40% lower than the number
00:27:31.100that's on the screen right now. And if you look at the, and if you put that number,
00:27:35.020if you put a red line somewhere on that, on that graph, it'd be like so low.
00:27:39.980We're never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to meet our greenhouse gas emissions.
00:27:44.780not the way we're going and so i'll come back to that um but let's go to the caller on the line
00:27:50.240but i definitely want to come back to that go ahead uh where are you calling from and name please
00:27:54.320hey marty it's maverro's from february holy smokes yeah almost uh almost my old uh stomping ground
00:28:04.100good how are you oh you you are next to a neighbor for a while i guess uh long long time ago uh 40
00:28:12.380I'm 58, so about 60 years ago, we lived in Timmins.
00:28:22.020Okay, I've got a tough one for you today because I kind of agree with what you're saying in that you're saying that Carney isn't giving up his net zero.
00:28:35.060I think that's still the ideology that's chiefly driving him and most of his decisions.
00:28:40.220But I really don't have a clear answer as to why he would politically risk his position because it's a weak minority.
00:28:51.060It's incredibly weak. I mean, pardon me, a majority.
00:28:55.260It can break at any moment. He's got people leaving in the summer.
00:28:59.740They're going to possibly have elections to come up.
00:29:02.620So I don't think he's ever been in a position of strength that he's going to use or risk that political capital by signing the MOU.
00:29:13.400I'm wondering how, in your mind, he justifies this risk.
00:29:17.900Because if I listen to, you know, the mainstream media, they're talking on the exact opposite of what we're talking about here at Western Standard.0.83
00:38:53.240And so we all start to, you know, agree. So you got a bunch of producers that said, we will, if you build a pipeline, we will commit to filling the pipeline. You see how it works? So you need to mutually trust each other.
00:39:09.520so when after a bunch of negotiations trans canada said okay it looks like we could build
00:39:15.180a pipeline for about 500 000 barrels a day because we got five we got producers committed
00:39:20.440to 500 000 barrels a day for the next 30 years so it's all profitable it's all worth doing and
00:39:26.680and then and then everybody signed agreements and trans canada said we'll build this pipeline
00:39:31.200within these tolerances give or take you know 10 billion dollars give or take and and then if it's
00:39:36.420a little bit over we'll buy the overage but if it's right on target you guys are committed to
00:39:41.280producing and it worked and we built the pipeline and everybody's happy if you try and do that today1.00
00:39:47.380um first of all the trans canadas of the world they got burnt they're not interested in doing1.00
00:39:53.380this anymore because their 10 billion pipelines end up being 20 and 30 billion dollar pipelines
00:39:59.320it's too complicated and the producers they're not interested in doing it because they don't
00:40:04.160think the pipelines will get built. And then the people who finance this, they're not interested
00:40:08.160in coming here to finance this because it takes too long. The dollar that they invest sits on the
00:40:15.560sideline for too long, doesn't have a return on investment. You see what's happening? And there's
00:40:19.600too many regulations. So how do you break that vicious cycle? Well, to me, the way to break that
00:40:26.780vicious cycle is for the government to bring back a climate, an environment, a regulatory framework
00:40:35.400where people will want to invest. Because all these parties that I talked about, they're worried
00:40:41.320about risk. They're worried about how long things will take, changing regulations, changing
00:40:47.080governments, being competitive with other jurisdictions. And in this country, how do we
00:40:54.280break that cycle what happened in the last 10 years the like something broke in the last 10
00:40:59.180years too many regulations too many too much talk about greenhouse gas and stuff like that
00:41:03.960so if Carney's serious about building pipelines here he would have to piss off the people out
00:41:09.320east like we just heard the caller say and he would have to repeal bill c69 bill 47 he would
00:41:15.900have to get rid of the tanker ban he would have to stop talking about he'd have to stop imposing
00:41:21.380um requirements that the that the like why is he deciding on you know decarbonized oil let the
00:41:29.560client decide what kind of oil and i want to come back on that decarbonized oil so uh call
00:41:34.020can you guys tell i'm a little bit agitated right now i love this topic so
00:41:38.640go ahead caller where are you calling from hey marty jesse and gp here hey jesse we've talked
00:41:45.240before right oh yeah yeah yeah um i'm wondering do you think that you speed has given the electorate
00:41:52.640the opportunity to see for themselves for this mou or any other subsequent agreement that's
00:41:58.160beholden to carbon tax is not the right direction for alberta within canada
00:42:02.920rephrase that a little bit like expand on your thought on that one
00:42:08.680um well i think you know perhaps uh danielle is creating or the ucp is creating this mlu or the
00:42:18.420you know the agreement or updates to the agreement that just happened that shows um how we are
00:42:22.980beholden to this carbon tax and that it's probably not in the best direction for alberta for carbon
00:42:28.940tax right um and then it brings it to the public's attention more so because the mainstream media or
00:42:35.620the legacy media is not going to, which is actually kind of funny because they're talking
00:42:41.200about more carbon tax, which is driving more people to Albert Independence, which is probably
00:43:05.200Yeah, so the electorate can then do their own research so they understand that there's no getting away from this carbon tax with the current Liberal government or any other subsequent government going forward in the Federation.
00:46:29.960A lot of people talk a good story until it affects them.
00:46:33.300Ask somebody out east if they're willing to give up the, you know, go to half the horsepower on their cars or be forced to smaller buildings or things like that.
00:46:42.620And I think you'll get a different reaction.
00:46:44.760And an example of that, I've always pushed for this, right?
00:54:16.920And so now and now they the the Tudors are finally sold that the government this week said they're unsafe to fly and they're going to let them fly for this season.
00:54:27.100And then and then that's it. And then no snowbirds until we get a replacement plane.
00:54:32.900And I thought, OK, so we're getting a replacement jet trainer.
00:54:35.400No, we're getting the replacement plane that the snowbirds are getting is the is the prop driven version.
00:54:42.420And we get those in 2030. So for four years, we will have no snowbirds.
00:54:47.080And when the snowbirds reappear in 2030, they'll be flying in in propeller driven planes.
00:54:53.120And everybody's like, well, they still go fast. It won't be the same.
00:54:56.260And watching propeller planes versus watching jets is not going to be the same.
00:55:01.060So, you know, and this, and Carney yesterday in a press release said something like, well, I inherited this problem. Really? You inherited this problem? The liberals have been in power since 2015. The minister of defense, the minister of procurement, the minister of all these ministers, they're all the same people.
00:55:20.180So maybe you, Kearney, are different, but the whole organization that you work for has been in power for 11 years, going on 12, and you're trying to blame this on your predecessor?
00:55:58.020You're learning to be a pilot, and you're hoping someday to get tapped on the shoulder and go fly with 413 Squadron and be one of the snowbirds.
00:56:04.700And now you're finding that there will be no snowbirds for the next four years.
00:56:09.760By then, think of the institutional knowledge, the traditions that will have been lost.
00:56:14.100It is so discouraging when I see stories like that.
00:56:18.900And I'm trying to stay positive on behalf of our soldiers because they have an amazing reputation of doing the best with absolutely terrible equipment.
00:56:31.180And it's a double slap in the face when you know that they're wasting money on so many other things and sending money overseas to Ukraine and places like that.
00:56:39.920And we can't keep enough money for our guys.
00:56:44.100Which led to, which is, you know, we're running out of time, but this will maybe be the last thing I talk about.
00:56:49.200So this week, all of this came to a head with the Americans and Donald Trump, indirectly Donald Trump, but the Americans announced that they were pausing the Canada Defense Board, right?
00:57:02.140So there's this group, there's this U.S.-Canada alliance called the U.S.-Canada Defense Board, where we talk about future strategies together and make sure we're aligned, right?
00:57:16.280Like when you're making, we do it as part of NATO, but we do it very closely because we're so close to the Americans.
00:57:22.520So when we buy stuff, we need to make sure it's compatible and we share each other's long-term plans and we share long-term opportunities.
00:57:29.700Like, hey, if you buy those planes, maybe I can train your guys.
00:57:33.400And if I buy your boats, maybe you can train my guys.
00:57:59.380It served Carney well to, to, to vilify Trump and get elected, but he's gone too far with this. Right. And so, and I think that's another example of that. And like Trump basically said, he's tired that Carney's all words, right? Like Carney said, we're going to increase the spending on military to, to more than 2% of our GDP. He even bragged about making it 5%.
00:58:25.380percent well giving raises to our soldiers and spending a few more bucks on upgrading the barracks
00:58:31.140and fixing the runway at the edmonton airport whatever those although they might have a military
00:58:36.940application that's not what trump wants when he talks about military spending going up to two
00:58:42.060percent gdp and and the whole fiasco with the snowbirds is that an example of a missed
00:58:47.900opportunity we could have just carney could have just sent some generals down to the u.s and on a
00:58:54.020shopping trip you know give him five billion bucks and then they could have gone and said
00:58:57.540we need little trainers what do you got and the u.s would have said well you could buy these t5s
00:59:02.040or these t6s how many do you want we could have said 20 as a starter the u.s would have said
00:59:06.680sounds good imagine how how much that would benefit the relationship between our two countries
00:59:12.220to do something like that but instead the liberals are going to study this problem for the next 30
00:59:17.000years they're going to order planes that are bilingual good for minus 50 weather and all
00:59:22.100sorts of other ridiculous requirements uh what uh what uh what uh what a what a what a world we live
00:59:29.380in um all right well listen uh thanks for calling in let so yeah recap i mean it was an interesting
00:59:36.180week uh it's it's going to be quiet in the coming days because or coming months now uh here in
00:59:44.020alberta uh the legislature recessed last week doesn't resume officially until october 27th so
00:59:50.320And now we've got four months with no major legislative activity going on in Alberta.