MARTY UP NORTH： Elections Alberta files legal action against independence advocacy group
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Summary
On this week's show, the guys talk about the new speed limit signs on the QE2 in Alberta, and the new law allowing variable speed limiters on the roadways. Also, we discuss the upcoming referendum on Scottish independence, and how the Centurion Project is tackling it.
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Um, I, I think it's going to be a good show today. Uh, I just want to do a follow-up, uh,
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from last week, right? So last week I got, you know, I was holding some callers on the line.
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I was, there was a beeping in my headphones and I didn't know what the beeping was going on. Right.
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Uh, I had a different producer in the show and we were, you know, and I'm still getting familiar.
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And what turns out that happened last week is so many of you folks were calling. Apparently I had
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30 calls online all through last week and I was dragging some discussions on because I didn't
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think there was anybody on the line. So let's do that again this week. Let's have another show like
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that with, you know, I got, I think I took nine callers last week. Let's try and take 10, 11,
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12 this week. Listen, I'm not going to lie. I'm a little bit disorganized right now because I just
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got into calgary so i was in uh edmonton last night i i was uh speaking at an event by the way
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i uh i got to experience something pretty cool uh yesterday and today i got to drive on the uh
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qe2 with the new speed limit right so the 120 kilometer speed limit there's a great big sign
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so when you're going uh heading north just past i think it was lacombe or somewhere around there
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uh all of a sudden there's a big you know big sign 120 and uh and then I sped up and then I
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got to do it on the way down I mean quite honestly for me I usually drive around 125
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you know my my truck like at the at I drive a one ton truck right so at speeds above that it starts
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to there's wind noise and I don't find it pleasant right so I'm not one of those guys who would
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normally drive at 130 140 consistently unless in the good old days I used to do it when I
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had a a nice smaller car but it's quite something to be passed on the highway you know you're you're
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cruising along you're doing 130 and all of a sudden you'd see in that mirror you see a big uh we know
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what they look like right that big one ton sometimes dually ford lifted up belching out diesel pulling
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a enclosed trailer passing you at 150 kilometers an hour so i don't know what that experiment's
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going to yield i had no problem i thought uh in the summertime on dry road conditions like that
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everything was great. Oh, actually, that just reminds me of something. I drove in Europe quite
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a bit. And a lot of places in Europe have adjustable speed limits, which I found pretty
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cool, right? So the speed signs are digital, and all of a sudden, it'd be like 110. And then 10
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minutes later, it's 120. And so that's because whatever some person has established that
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speeding up things is warranted, and vice versa, they might lower it. And over there, I found that
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people obeyed the the system but variable speed to me as an engineer sounds like an idea that
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makes sense right we should have variable speed all right um so let's uh let's talk real quick
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about uh i i want to talk about this but i don't know if i want to get into huge huge huge detail
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because we don't know all the details but i was up in edmonton last night speaking at an event
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uh small event put on by the centurion uh project and about i don't know 150 people showed up to
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hear more about the centurion project which is uh one of the i which is a brainchild of of david
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parker and i'm pretty much on board with the idea of the centurion project because as i've said
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uh repeatedly we we we had a we had a campaign recently where we collected signatures totally
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looking forward to monday when mitch sylvester finally drops off those signatures to elections
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alberta but i canvassed and i learned personally that collecting signatures and reaching out to
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people and connecting with them and explaining all uh things whether it's independence or anything
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anything else political is is complicated it's busy and it's harder than i even imagined and
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and i think we're going to be pleasantly surprised with the number of signatures but we're still got
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a big step ahead of us which is there are courts fighting us and there there will have to be a
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referendum and getting that you know by my estimate we're going to need something like a million a
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million to votes in favor of independence to even have a chance at it and so getting that to those
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million people is a challenge and that's what the centurion project is working on and and i like
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generally speaking the approach that they're taking to engage with people but what happened
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last night was kind of interesting so there um i we sort of talked about this last week on the show
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right elections alberta right now is to me um maybe overreacting and coming down hard on
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what they consider separatist groups right so and last night while i was on stage there was a
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commotion while i was speaking and then all of a sudden i saw a bunch of people moving and that
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I continued doing my talk, but I found out later that there was a investigator, call it, from Elections Alberta, who came to this event and served papers to the people at the event, to the organizers of the event, which is the Centurion Project.
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And they served papers, but that in and of itself is a bit unusual, but what was really unusual about the whole thing for me is that they came with seven police cruisers.
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seven. Can you imagine? So maybe elections, not maybe, I'm sure Elections Alberta has a valid
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reason to serve papers. It's not something you just do randomly, decide you're going to go serve
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papers. So they wanted to serve papers. But what I found unusual is that somehow somebody at
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Elections Alberta picked up the phone and called, I don't know, somebody at Edmonton Police Services
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and said, hey, I'm going to go serve papers. I need, I don't know, how many guys can you spare?
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Can you spare seven cruisers? And somebody at Edmonton police said, yeah, sure. And they spared seven cruisers. You can see them in the picture there. And those seven cruisers showed up to serve the paper.
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I think in hindsight, Edmonton police is a little bit embarrassed by that because they issued a statement this morning kind of trying to distance themselves from this event saying, hey, we were sort of just doing our job.
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So, boy, you know, so I want to talk about this a little bit more. I mean, that's the state of politics in Alberta right now. So we got a group that's, we got two groups that are battling out over independence.
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We have a pro-independence group led by Mitch Sylvester's and the Alberta Prosperity Project.
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And on the other side, we have Thomas Lukasik's group.
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And Thomas Lukasik, let's remember, is an old former politician, well-connected on the inside.
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And I dare say that what he's doing to me doesn't look necessarily totally above board,
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but he seems to be getting a pass when it comes to all this stuff from Elections Alberta.
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So let me know your thoughts on that. Are Elections Alberta just doing their job and doing it fairly? Or are they playing a bit of favoritism? And and how's this all going down? At the end of the day, me personally, I definitely really, really, really look forward to Monday.
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I think somebody from the Western Standard will be there.
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Mitch Sylvester is driving over to the offices of Elections Alberta on Monday
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and handing in the signatures that he collected as part of this petition.
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We don't know the number, but he's going to reveal a number.
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I guess we'll have to take his number on face value
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because according to the state that the courts issued a couple of weeks ago,
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elections alberta can't start the process of validating the number of signatures what a world
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we live in right um all right so uh so that's the topic so again uh folks don't be shy uh you see
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the number on the screen there 1-866-479-west or 479 john i never know what west stands for
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four, seven, nine, nine, three, seven, eight extension seven, one, one.
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So make those, uh, make those lines beep and, uh, and let's go from there.
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All right. So what else happened? Uh, what else happened this week?
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Uh, trying to think about it. I definitely got distracted yesterday,
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but what else happened this week? I mean, and, and that's the other thing.
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I start to wonder what's really going on elsewhere.
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what's the real story that they're perhaps trying to hide or or not so uh the big i guess the big
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story this week in in ottawa is the spring um fiscal update he used to be called the fall uh
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fiscal update because remember i've said this before right the the fine the um the budgetary
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year the fiscal year in ottawa runs from april 1st to march 31st so march 31st is like a month
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behind us the the fiscal year 2025 2026 ended a month ago so now we're technically in the 2026
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2027 fiscal year and what we should be concentrated on is the government should be tabling a budget
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and everything else right but everything's been shifted by about six months because last year
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the liberals used the election as an excuse in fact they used it as more than an excuse they
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didn't want to table a budget but they were forced to table a budget i mean the liberals got elected
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in april last year so they had plenty of time they could have tabled the budget right around the time
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that they're supposed to in in may but they put it off put it off put it off and didn't table
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the budget until about november and then by then you know more than half of the year is over so
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and it doesn't help that we didn't have a parliamentary budget officer.
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So everything's messed up, which is why yesterday or this week the –
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So I was going to give a whole long speech on fiscal responsibility,
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So remember, please let me know, name, where you're calling from,
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hi it's susan from stratford hi susan i have a question for you when the uh signatures and
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everything get dropped off on monday has he already made account with an accounting firm
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on the members yes i mean i i'm hearing this yes yes i mean i've heard it from from mitch uh
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i'm assuming he's doing what he said he was going to do he all the signatures have been
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forwarded to his office quote-unquote i think it's his business and uh and they've been
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counting them himself and he's hired an accounting firm to validate it
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is that and is he keeping copies of them no he cannot do that um i i'm sure he wish he could
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but no he's gonna uh he's gonna just count them and then uh rely on an accountant or a lawyer or
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somebody to to to confirm you know what what happened i mean i would advise him he can't
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photocopy them but he can certainly we talked about this last week he can put the pages you
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know sort of in uh banker's boxes and we're trying to do the math the other day like how many how
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many pages go into banker's box let's say it's uh you know let's say it's 5 000 pages going to
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banker's box then that's 25 signatures so i hope he does something sort of visual to represent how
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many signatures there are are you are you concerned or no i just i just don't trust uh elections
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alberta yeah yeah yeah you me both all right well thanks for calling thank you so much yeah you're
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welcome um yeah i uh i encourage i definitely encourage actually somebody somebody do that
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experiment how many how many how many single pages after they've been sort of peeled away and
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stacked back into a banker's box. How many pages go in there? I think we did it last week. I think
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it's about 25,000 pages. That seems high. Anyways, back to the fall economic, I keep saying fall
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economic update because that's what we had. We always had a fall economic update because the
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fall economic update used to be in the middle of the budget year. It was an update. So now we got
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spring economic update and uh boy oh boy what a nothing burger right i i i normally i normally
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take a lot of pleasure in going through government budgets and breaking them apart and seeing what
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happened but in this case um all i need to look for me was one number which is the fact that uh
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the liberals are still for la for for this year that that we're in the middle of and i'm still
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confused or they haven't officially declared i i think officially we should be they should be
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saying we're in the 2027 budget but they're still saying that the deficit in the 2026 budget was
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66 billion dollars and they're trying to make that sound like it's a good deal because originally
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they had forecast something like 77 billion so even their original forecast car in carney's
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first budget he said he his deficit was going to be 77 billion dollars which is twice as much as
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anything trudeau ever had outside of covet right you remember during kobe like in 2021 i think
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trudeau ran 220 billion dollars in deficit like that's huge so carney in his first budget comes
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out of the gate and swinging and like i'm gonna blow the budget by 77 i'm gonna spend 77 billion
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more than i have and now halfway through the budget cycle he's proud of saying uh the deficit's only
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66 like he tried to sell that as a win well i'm sorry folks but 66 billion dollars in debt is uh
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is is is a it's 10 of our budget we're living beyond our means we're and more importantly
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there's no plan in the fiscal update you the fiscal update is this year and then five years
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looks forward five years in the next five years they're still running deficits in the 50 plus
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billion like huge deficit year after year huge deficits and then and then there's a line in
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there that's really uh shocking which is these all these deficits are borrowed money so the total
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borrowed money that the government has borrowed the total debt interest bearing debt of the
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Canadian government is $1.8 trillion. Let me repeat that. $1.8 trillion. That's $1,800
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billions. So $1.8 trillion. And the debt, the interest on that debt, the debt that we're not
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even paying down, the interest on that debt is over $50 billion. So we're going in the hole by
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$50 billion. Plus every year, we're also, we're borrowing $50 billion basically to pay the $50
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billion dollars in interest you see how this is going like it's only a matter of time before this
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absolutely collapses on itself right and and to put that into context like 50 billion dollars
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just in interest payment that's more than ottawa spends on health care or it's more than ottawa
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spends on defense so it's 50 billion dollars it's huge right and then and then you look in that
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budget and they give a little update and then they bring you know i'm by the way i want to go back
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to this too why why did they actually why was the debt or the deficit this year only 66 instead of
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77 what saved their bacon nothing they did now the reason they're able to have a slightly lower
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uh deficit is because of the war in iran let me let me note that down and i'll come back to that
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go ahead who's on the line please oh marty it's donald smith here how are you doing today good
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good donald where are you calling from oh vancouver and vancouver in the communist uh regime here
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basically you see something the wrong way that you'll call the cops on you so let's talk about
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what i like to talk about what happens yesterday why did the cops show up to your guys to your
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guys this event that why did edmonton police send six or seven cruisers to an uh to a um to
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an elections event like i want to know why i've no nobody knows like i mean yeah no like imagine
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they were basically they were serving papers okay i i didn't i i talked to uh david afterwards and
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basically they got served papers from elections alberta and the papers basically said cease
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and desist stop doing what you're doing but but they didn't even stop the event like they they
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served the papers and they walked away so no i i have no idea i mean i i've i've uh i i can't think
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of an uh of i mean we don't even send that they don't even send that many cruisers to arrest some
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somebody like i don't know what i it was a show of force okay let me okay let's to me it's a show
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Mark Miller or something is basically now going to
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basically what he said to those is basically oh um basically he didn't say it properly so
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they're not so how he's gonna force it but i think they're gonna basically now if you say
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something the wrong way or insult somebody the wrong way and trigger like a left-wing lunatic
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like a man in the dress pig in the dress you know what i'm talking about you're gonna have
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cops ticking your doors oh you know what now we're coming coming close as being east berlin
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and uh coming to cuba and and uh communist uh soviet union very soon yeah yeah no i um yeah
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it's an intimidation tactic i mean that's like uh it it had that feel right i mean look at the
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picture on there like when there's there's there's three cruisers there there there was more than
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that and uh you know you had like eight officers standing around all geared up and and and forming
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a semicircle around the guy who was handing the paper to the organizer oh they was they really
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they wanted to prounce on them they really wanted to basically edmonton police wanted to prance on
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this guy they wanted brownie points because we know edmonton is a left-wing uh is a left-wing
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run city by a uh cox mayor who doesn't fix his roads doesn't fix his homeless population doesn't
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fix anything and it's just it's disgusting what i'm seeing yeah cruisers for a political thing
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when we have problems on the streets where a man or a transgender person could be doing something
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to a baby then the cops won't do anything but if you say something about political oh no they come
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after you which which which i want yeah okay so thanks don um uh if you don't mind hanging up and
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and then um yeah i will yeah thanks don thanks part of yeah yeah no it it's listen i i mean
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where i'm bouncing all over the place let let let let me go back to that right so i mean it is
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for me it is nerve it is uh worrisome that um that that that different groups whether it's
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it's stay free alberta or the alberta prosperity project or the centurion project that the that
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elections Alberta seems to be coming down hard on them and I get it there's rules and I think these
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groups are working hard within the rules but I see I see um uh I I see a double standard right
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I I can't help but see to me like in the last week Nenshi started his own you know for Alberta
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for Canada and he he he has a different set of rules that he works by because apparently he's
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a party and he's allowed to campaign but citizens like i've said this i'm a citizen trying to hold
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my government accountable by collecting signatures or by voting or by trying to engage other citizens
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and in the process of engaging citizens that seems to make governments and bureaucrats and
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institutions like elections alberta nervous and they seem to be coming down on one side in
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particular even if it's not a side they they they seem to be using a lot of scare tactics
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to that to to basically scare away citizens from exercising their democratic right i mean
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it it was intimidating to see that yesterday i feel sorry like now i know how poor uh kathy at
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the ostrich farm must have felt when you know you got you got you got canada food inspection
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agents and now they show up and they got with them a tactical team a swat team so that's the
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like are we getting there as a society where well there was a russian i think it was i don't know
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who maybe maybe john can search it but there was a russian politician sort of in the stalin era at
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one point right stalin was famous for his purges and this politician said to stalin like you know
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show me a man and I'll show you the crime basically saying if you want somebody to disappear and go
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off into the gulags or whatever show me the man and I'll tell you the crime and and in Russia
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they'd go as far as making up crimes and then all of a sudden there'd be a knock in the night and
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then somebody disappeared right watch watch if you want to see a comedy version of that watch
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the death of Stalin which was a weird funny comedy but based on sort of reality and and so show me
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the man and i'll show you the crime well are we like canada's kind of getting the same way there's
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so many laws right now that you can that that anytime you have an interaction with an officer
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it's almost guaranteed that if he wants to he'll find you something if he pulls you over on the
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side of the road he'll find you for something i mean if if if you're doing 122 and he pulls you
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over he can walk around and find you for something i experience it when i'm hunting all the time when
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i go hunting i i'm we're at the point where we're being harassed now because you got guys who show
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up and they want to see our rifles and they want to see our tags and by the way they already know
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we're going to be there because they know because i bought the tag online and they know i'm going
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to be in zone 353 for the week for two weeks kind of thing right so they they and they show up and
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and and then it doesn't end they want to see the registration on the quad and they want to see that
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i have insurance for the quad and they want to see this and they want to see that and it almost
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there's always that last little law at the bottom, right?
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Which is mischief or something similar, right?
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Remember, this is what happened to people like Tamara.
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So show me the woman and I'll show you the law. And at the end of the day, so I, so I, you know, I'm rambling on a little bit. It's not where I want it to go, but it is, it was intimidating. And, and, and, hey, okay. I mean, I mean, I wanted to talk about this. Let's keep talking about it. Maybe this will engage you guys.
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But at the core right now of the debate, and again, this happened last night and there's been some, there's been apparently some injunctions and there's been some court hearings and a couple of things.
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Hey, I just wanted to get your take on Smith's press conference from the other week.
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I think it was last week, talking about how, like, she obviously wants Alberta in Canada, and that she hopes that that obviously is the outcome.
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But I'm just wondering what your take is, like, if the court decides that rules against the State for Alberta on the petition verification,
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Like, does she invoke the Nalvistani clause to make sure that those get certified?
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The first one is that she actually technically has a petition on her desk that's been validated, right?
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So she has the Thomas Lukasik petition, which is a referendum question.
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whether he believes it or not you know do you want to stay in canada yes or no it's still a
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valid it's the it's just the opposite of do you want to leave canada yes or no so it's still a
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referendum question so so if the courts if if all sorts of things happen and mitch sylvester doesn't
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get to validate his petition danielle has one so she could do something based on what i saw
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based on what i saw her say and heard i don't think she will that that's just my opinion
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um and and i'm getting more one and she did say one thing that made me very nervous last week she
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basically said that if um uh i was working it backwards from october 19th right remember i was
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saying okay if the referendum is october 19th and we need to validate the signatures by i don't know
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you know july or august and and she can declare the referendum in august she said no she she worked
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she worked it way back and she said if the courts don't adjudicate before i think it's june 19th or
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something like that then there won't be a referendum so that that scared me and in the
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language she used i thought she wouldn't even use the the the lucasic um paperwork so
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the next that's why i think monday is one of the most important days in in recent history when mitch
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but does that answer the question Sean or what's your
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just kind of wash her hands of this or at least
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um but i could be wrong obviously but i think maybe she's looking for an easy out with with
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the course it's kind of my take on it like she's just kind of hoping the court says that it can't
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happen and it's like oh well of course that it can't happen we're not doing it yeah i mean you
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know um just stay on the line for a second because i was going to tie this in this sort of ties into
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the budget that i was talking about you know one of the things danielle has always been saying is
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She wants a stronger Alberta within a United Canada.
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But I keep wondering when she's going to flip and realize this never happened.
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And I was going to give examples from the budget, right?
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The budget that came out, there was not a lot of additional spending, but the additional spending that was announced in the budget is all Ottawa overreaching and imposing on the provinces, right?
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Like Ottawa and the budget said, yeah, like what did they say?
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we're going to do um um we're going to throw money towards uh training more trades sounds great that's
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a great idea but that's not ottawa's jurisdiction right and and then we're going to spend more money
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building houses and then you read it and you go where oh you're building houses in ottawa so
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ottawa's going to spend our tax dollars to build houses in ottawa and and then like danielle to me
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should have come out in and her reaction to the budget should be anger but she's not going to be
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trying to negotiate with like she keeps talking
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a good talk I'm going to have a better deal for Alberta
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whatever so yeah yeah whatever so how fast do you think guys are going to go before they get
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pulled over so what's the new what's the new speed limit with the speed at 120 is it 145
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yeah exactly it's like probably i mean we'll have to wait to see what people kind of get
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comfortable with but i definitely think people are going to start going a little bit faster
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yeah i felt it today it was it was moving pretty fast so anyways i appreciate the call sean thanks
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for calling awesome thank you thanks later john what's that so did you find that quote who who's
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the who's the russian uh you you got the quote right down there show me the man and i'll show
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you the crime uh yeah i mean god you know and that's and so okay let let's just stay on that
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topic right i'm i'm i'm trying to draw a line in the sand personally for myself right where where
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do I draw my line? Where does my government overreach? And where do I, where do I say enough
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is enough is enough? And I, and I, and I'm, I think I've drawn a couple of lines and I'm getting
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nervous. And, you know, I joked last week, I said that if there was an injunction that stopped me
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from collecting signatures, I would actually continue collecting signatures until somebody
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came to arrest me i'm i'm i'm still thinking that i live in a country where if i get arrested i still
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get a pretty good treatment but then there's a little thing inside of me that's that you know
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i go listen to tamara lich and i see what happened to the coots four and i see what others it's like
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could i handle could i handle just being in solitary confinement for 40 days sure i could
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and the harassment but could i handle what it does to my family could i handle them freezing
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my bank accounts and threatening my my livelihood for the rest of my life and and those things so
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now you know what i'm saying like i can handle misery but they're using tactics that go beyond
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misery and it's it makes a person think right so i'm i'm they're succeeding and i'm and people say
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to me like marty you're brave i'm not brave you could like i've said this you could teach yourself
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bravery. And you can also if you're if you're strong in your conviction, then you will naturally
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be brave. So I'm pretty strong in some of my convictions. I have an amazing network of support
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and friends who are like minded. Plus, I've worked my life to be to the point where I'm not
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completely dependent. I don't work for anybody. And I've accumulated a little bit of money and I
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own my own land. So I've done things that allow me to be quote unquote brave. But I'm even at that
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point now where i'm having those second thoughts and and so they're reaching me i know they've
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reached a whole bunch of people a long long time ago a whole bunch of people now just are scared
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of the state are scared of their government and don't want to do anything so that's insane right
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and and and i keep staring at this book and i want to go back i want to show you something
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because it's it's it's related to this right you'll you'll hear in the news today based on
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what happened yesterday you'll hear about this elector list this famous electoral list whatever
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the heck that electoral list is who's an elector in in alberta an eligible voter in alberta is
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somebody who's over the age of 18 who lives here and is a canadian citizen that's it right and
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that's the list and everybody apparently there's this magical list somewhere called the list of
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electors eligible electors and i just want to show something right and i know it doesn't exist today
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necessarily but this is a phone book this is the edson phone book i lived in edson for years i got
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another one here this is this is the uh grand prairie phone book let me show you guys because
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maybe some of you guys don't even remember this but the phone books had the white pages at the
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front and then you had the yellow pages so when i was younger and you wanted to find out about
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tow truck company or whatever you had to go through flip through this book and uh and find
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the tow company and and in here this is edson if i open it up and i find my page my my my name is
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there uh my address and my phone number is in here like isn't that insane and and that is this use
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this was delivered to every household uh once a year and uh you accumulate i don't even my wife
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still had this one maybe this one is uh is a keepsake because i'll tell you a quick story i
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may i i met my wife at boston pizza and edson on my birthday and uh we we shared drinks and i and
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we we we hit it off pretty good but uh all i knew was her name and then she didn't give me her phone
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number well back in those days all i had to do was open this little phone book find her in there
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and give her dingle so um and so everybody's making a huge huge huge big deal about this list
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but i just want to show you this is a phone book and john maybe i'm putting you on the spot here
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but can you find the canada post website just search canada post uh rental lists or rental
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database it it you almost land on it on the canada post site when you go to it
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and while john is searching that and he's just going to provide proof but i just want to tell
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you this exists you can go to canada post and you can there you go rent our prospect list and if you
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you know if you zoom in on it a little bit like acquire new customers right can you try and zoom
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in a bit on that john thanks and just show that uh acquire new customers anyways they basically
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Canada Post will rent you the modern version of the phone book, but it's digital. They'll rent
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you that list and they rent them. And if you click on there, you'll see case studies. So they rent
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their list to Costco and businesses and Canada Post will rent you the names of people, their
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address, their phone number, and a whole bunch of other things. And so a lot of people are paranoid
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it online thinking oh my god there's been a breach of whatever perhaps there has been and i'm not
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saying there hasn't been and i'm not saying there aren't lists that are highly confidential
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and and need to be protected but i'm also telling you right now that there are a lot of your name
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if you search your name online you might be shocked at what you'll find out about yourself
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and there are businesses like canada post and others lots of businesses do this i mean when
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you sign up for when you sign up for your facebook account or some of these other even when you sign
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for your cell phone provider or whatever everybody glances over the fine print they ignore the fine
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print but somewhere in there often it says that uh you've agreed to uh sharing parts of your
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information and you know i i always say this to people in general if the card or the loyalty card
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that you're getting is free then you're the commodity right so so when you join up and you
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go to i don't know you're getting a sobeys card or an air miles card or one of these cards that are
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free that seems to come with a benefit the benefit that they're giving you is literally
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the transaction they're paying you for information so when you got that sobeys card and you go to
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sobeys every week and you and you use an email and a phone number to get that card boy they know they
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know where you live they know what you buy generally and then if you're using your sobeys card
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on a cell phone or something like that there's data attached to it so i'm you know i'm i'm just
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bringing that up because at at the root right now of the debate is what kind of data was being used
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and so we'll get to the i'm sure elections alberta and everybody will get to the bottom of this
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there's some data maybe there was some breaches i don't know but but at the end of the day if
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they start like what i said as a joke to somebody is you know let me take this and you find five
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people in there you know and circle their names and tell me if they're pro or against independence
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and then when you're done that i'm going to pass it on to somebody else and say you find
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five people you know and tell me if they're pro or against independence that's what i just did
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is sort of a form of campaigning and boy if that becomes completely illegal then i'm going to have
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another problem right so you see you see where i'm going with this and so there's definitely a lot to
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unpack and i think it's going to be an interesting coming few weeks and uh and and and then we'll go
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there boy the show is moving on and uh again folks uh phone number is up there i met a bunch of you
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uh over the course of the last couple of weeks who say you call i'll remind you i'm i'm just uh
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i'm i'm just a guy who's uh wearing his uh golf shirt and uh and uh his ratty jeans and i'm i'm
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nobody special. I'm just the guy. So just call me. All right. I think we, we beat the, well,
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actually I wanted to just finish it off on the, um, budget. It came outside the budget. So I,
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I mentioned a couple of things, you know, that to me are interfering in, in Alberta politics,
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uh, the, the, you know, the funding of trades and the funding of businesses or housing and stuff
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like that. But everybody also saw the weird announcement this week, right? All of a sudden,
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um mark carney was all proud of announcing the canada strong fund and he announced a um what
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did he call it he called it a um a sovereign wealth fund i almost spit out my coffee when
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he said that right a sovereign you know i just told you we're 1.8 trillion dollars in debt
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a sovereign wealth fund is a great idea and there's only a handful of sovereign wealth funds
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in the world, right? Norway has a good one. Abu Dhabi has a good one. Alberta tried to have one
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and Alberta's keeps getting pilfered all the time. But let's talk about Norway's, right? Norway's
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sovereign wealth fund is truly the result of surplus money. They produced their oil, they got
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their royalties and they had extra money. And every year when they had the extra money, they put that
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extra money in the fund and that fund grew and was properly managed. And then that fund is used to
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invest. And in the case of Norway, it's almost by mandate doesn't invest in Norway. It's the
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way to really diversify. So Norway has a great one. Abu Dhabi is famous for doing this too.
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Abu Dhabi produced a ton of oil and created a giant wealth fund over time. Alberta tried,
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we have the Heritage Fund, an idea from way back when. And it hasn't grown quite as much as some
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of the other funds because we kind of end up being in, not having a lot of surplus money at
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the end of the year to put in this, in our, in our heritage fund. And we've used it on rainy days in
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the past. So it, so it's been depleted a little bit, but what Carney announced is nothing like
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that. I mean, Carney literally announced this fund and he says, I'm going to put $25 billion
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in there. And then if you guys want to put a few billion, then we'll invest it. Well, he's going
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to have to borrow money to put it into the fund to start with and um so so it's a non-starter
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right it's a non-starter and the other thing i find upsetting about that fund is that some people
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were applauding it but then they quickly how quickly do they forget that the liberals started
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another fund like that one um john can you find just the landing page the web page for the canada
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infrastructure bank and uh put that up on the screen and show their um so their landing page
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or maybe did i get their name wrong or it's the canada i'm pretty sure it was the canada
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infrastructure bank there you go cib right we are um so the canada infrastructure bank was founded
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by by the liberals in it's a crown corporation that was founded in 2017 with the same exact idea
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oh we're going to start a fund we're going to put money in there and we're going to use this money
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to invest in projects which usually are interfering in provincial affairs anyways and look at that fun
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performance right so um 54 billion dollars invested i i can't believe they actually even
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brag about this they've invested 54 billion dollars and a variety of weird projects and then
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they claim that the fund's worth 18. so it's a mutual fund seeded with your money that's actually
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lost 60 percent of its value in the last uh or maybe not 60 50 percent of its value a little more
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30 anyways so this fund failed and so the liberals answer is we're going to do another fund that's
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going to be a similar failure and by the way 25 billion dollars ah i want to get back to that
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uh caller on the line go ahead please name where are you calling from uh hi apprentice uh from
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near ottawa oh cool yeah just uh yeah but you're giving me hope for the future of canada you
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separating you guys okay um yep so interesting comment though so why do we give you hope in
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ottawa or in in ontario so our our government is corrupt because of ford
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so um we got no way out once you guys leave we gotta be poor so more people will have trouble
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so we might my way of thinking of this is that you guys gotta separate do a new consultation
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then after that the country will break up and we're gonna have like 10 province can compete
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call for the rest of Canada. You'll finally have to
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but thank you for calling because you have a Franco-Ontarien accent.
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I'm from the same region, so we speak the same French.
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Our first caller, so just that was French, folks.
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It's it's we're an English show, but maybe I'll do a French show one of these days and broaden our audience.
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And and actually, John, do we have do we have journalists in in in Quebec or someplace like that?
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We don't have French. All right. Western Standard. There's an opportunity there, Derek.
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We can expand. OK, so I've got to go back to my notes.
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So I was talking to the infrastructure bank. Right. Oh, yeah.
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and i wanted to just again just you know this is what i like doing right i like talking about
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stuff and giving you guys food for thought right so the budget was lousy um there's there's the
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debt is out of control and then they brag about things that in the past they didn't want us to
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know about so why so why was the shortfall uh the deficit not as big as they predicted like
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six months ago and this again this is pure irony this is beautiful right so they predicted a 77
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billion deficit but it only came in at 66 why because of the gulf war right the war in iran
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and and the value of oil so even though alberta produces oil and alberta pays royalties here in
00:45:41.220
alberta a little bit of of extra revenue from from uh when con when alberta companies when the price
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of oil goes up the government of alberta benefits directly from increased revenues but it also
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benefits from increased corporate taxes because the companies become more profitable and some of
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those taxes also go to ottawa so when ottawa so when oil does well it's proof that oil is important
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to the uh alberta to the overall economy of the country in fact it's so important that when you
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look at that report uh the fall the spring economics uh update at the beginning of the report
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they list a couple of parameters that are used in their forecast right they list a couple of
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things that are important that that affect the overall uh accuracy of the report and the modeling
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and some of those things in there are um their their prediction for interest rates their prediction
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for the population their prediction for the growth in gdp and one commodity they predict the price of
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oil okay so canada produces hundreds of different commodities but there's only one commodity that's
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included in the annual in in this update because of its importance so again i find that weirdly
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ironic that you got carny constantly constantly slamming our oil and and and promoting a green
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future in a net zero future and trying to distance himself from oil but at the end of the day and
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that's ideology but at the end of the day when reality meets ideology reality always wins and
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what we saw this week with the this past month with the gulf wars that everybody wants oil and
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when oil does well the country makes more money and it's good for the country uh go ahead on the
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line where are you calling from uh yeah this is uh mark calling how are you doing marty good good
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how are you? I might have missed the last couple of minutes of what you were saying,
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just so we don't get that delayed. You were talking about the sovereign wealth fund.
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I just caught the last few seconds. Where exactly does the sovereign wealth come from?
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It comes from assets within the country. Are we going to build a fund up to the steel industry,
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through fishing no it's going to be through oil like norway has norway has every project in norway
00:48:08.980
it's 50 government ownership saudi arabia uae well those speak to themselves those are
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kingdoms or whatever so they have to take a stake in ownership then for this well what is that that's
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national energy program 2.0 that's all that is if you have to get it where's you going to get it
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And the idea behind all this was actually kind of divest economies and not necessarily
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have rainy day funds, but it's to move the money into something else that perhaps a state
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I agree, and then the other thing it disguises is the fact that he keeps claiming that, hey,
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back and we're going to be the greatest economy in the g7 he makes these really bold claims
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but the reality is um we didn't need any of these kinds of funds in the past because companies came
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here and wanted to invest here and and i've talked about this before the liberals of the last decade
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have scared away investors like they just don't want to invest here unless there's huge subsidies
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right like the battery plant and the car plants and whatnot they're they they used to come here
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willingly because we had great labor we had cheap electricity and resources and and a close proximity
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to markets but we've scared away all the capital and so a fund like this is just it's just a is
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disguising that failure like we wouldn't need a fund like this if if investors were willing to
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come here you know gladly so um yeah i appreciate the call thank you would i be able to just add
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the caller that you had last week saying he was going to take you to Alberta.
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It's like, you're coming here to take the advantages of Alberta,
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We had one caller last week saying he was moving here to vote no in the
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upcoming referendum. That's awesome. All right. Thanks.
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Actually that nice little segue right there when we were talking about
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investors and whatnot, that's a double-edged sword.
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One of the things that happened this week here in Calgary, right?
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So Arc Energy was a pretty big Canadian company.
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You know, there's like there there's not a lot of good Canadian companies.
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It's true that there's a lot of foreign investors and it's a double edged sword, right?
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It's a double edged sword. I mean, we do not have enough capital in this country.
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Like we're 40 million people. I think we're three percent of the world's money supply is here, but we have more resources.
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So when we want to build big things here, we have no choice.
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And one of the foreign capitals that has always, even despite the liberals, all their attempts to kill it, foreign capital has continued to invest in our energy, in our oil and in our gas.
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but I'm, but I, but I was always happy to have some good Canadian companies, the CNRLs, the
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Synovuses, ARC. And now this week in a double edged sword, um, ARC got sold and bought out by
00:51:45.040
Shell, which is that, which is definitely foreign. So I have mixed feelings on that one because yes,
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I believe that it's important to bring in foreign capital, but I wish we were bringing in foreign
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capital in other areas there's enough foreign capital in oil so i i see that as a bit of a
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dilution of uh of of of of our number one resource here falling more and more into foreign hands um
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but i would definitely not advocate some people will say well then if you believe that way we
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should nationalize the oil no no no no no i mean it's it there is a double-edged sword to being in
00:52:18.580
favor of capitalism which is you take the good with the bad sometimes um you know the capital
00:52:24.340
comes from somewhere else uh go ahead caller on the line uh yeah marty uh good afternoon it's
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canadian spider-man steve calling from vernon steve how's it going bud hey it's going fantastic
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it's beautiful sunny it's my birthday today oh happy birthday right on happy birthday to me yeah
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Listen, I just want to touch on what you and the last caller,
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so when they separate, it will force provinces like where I grew up.
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They have a lot of potential, but they're not forced to do anything with it.
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They're the only bilingual province in all of Canada.
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It causes division amongst the population there.
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It might actually force them to drop the useless programs
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and really get motivated to develop their potential.
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Well, yeah, no, you're not alone in that thought.
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lots of lots of people think that way in fact um last week the new not the new but the leader of the
00:53:51.320
um separatist party in quebec the party quebecois he dropped a pretty interesting podcast and in his
00:53:58.120
in his podcast he almost went as far as saying that he he he he tried avoiding he avoided talking
00:54:04.840
about alberta but he talked about quebec how quebec needs to separate and and that's what he
00:54:10.120
he was saying that quebec needs to separate because he went as far as saying quebec's been
00:54:14.440
held back by by the rest of canada i thought that was hilarious but but in a sense uh there is some
00:54:20.580
truth to that right they they the the equalization formula and stuff like that has as it's a
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disincentive to do well for for quebec and other places so um yeah i appreciate that uh yeah i
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agree i fundamentally agree okay yeah all right thanks have a good one happy birthday
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oh is that another call on the line or just hearing a beep um all right wow again just
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like last week i had a whole bunch of topics i wanted to talk about uh that uh well i got a
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couple of minutes i i can uh so arc is gone sad to see that um oh there's a question in the chat
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Would it not be better to hand in the petition this Friday?
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I'm worried this could potentially let an activist bureaucrat say it was handed in late.
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You know, I mean, yeah, at some point you got to the the the word on the street is that the petition was due on May 2nd, sort of like at 6 p.m.
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Right. And May 2nd is what, Saturday or Sunday?
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And so Mitch talked to Elections Alberta. Mitch was prepared to hand it in under the wire exactly before it was due. And apparently Elections Alberta said, OK, since it's the weekend and we're closed, you can hand it in on Monday before, I don't know, 6 p.m.
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So I got to, I got to trust that there aren't shenanigans being played there. That would be, that would be, that would be brutal. Imagine you show up and, and you, you know, I hope Mitch has an email or a phone recording conversation saying do it at four. But me personally, I'd love it if he dropped it on Friday tomorrow, because then I, then I wouldn't, then I'd sleep better all weekend knowing what the, what the outcome was. Hey, I'm confident. I am truly confident. I mean, there was a, you know, I've, I've shared the math, right?
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In the writing that I was in, we collected over 7,000 signatures.
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Doesn't sound like much, but there's 87 writings, which will be a topic of discussion, right?
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But 87 writings, if my writing was sort of average and we brought in 7,000 signatures, you know, instead of 87, make it 90.
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Nine times seven, you know, so there's the opportunity for 500,000 signatures.
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But there was one really, really good story that came out this week. I think it was the Sylvan Lake Sundry writing. There's a writing in that area where they supposedly got something like 22,000 signatures. They divulge how many they had collected. And there's something like 28,000 voters in that writing.
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So people are like, wow, 28,000 voters, you guys collected 22,000 signatures, they're doing the math, and they're like, you know, it's 80% plus in a rural writing that was totally in favor of separatism.
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So when I see a number like that, I keep hope that maybe there will be a big surprise on Monday, and maybe it's a really big number.
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Okay, we've got time for a couple more callers.
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If it's a surprise on Monday, maybe it's a really big number.
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yeah um i i'm a little uh worried about uh how carney
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whoever's on the line you got a lot of carney is a little
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not not making any comments about the separation and how he
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so i'll i'll call doc next up okay yeah yeah um i i tried to get the gist of it i think
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basically saying carney's not making a lot of comments i i right now um there's there's no
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i understand why practically speaking there's no referendum at this point right let's all be
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honest there's no referendum until they're counted until danielle smith says there's a referendum
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there's a lot of people right now that are not pronouncing themselves on either side because
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there's no referendum uh but there are some definitely you know thomas lukasic
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uh is is coming out guns a-blazing uh naheed nenshi came out guns a-blazing so i think that's
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the yes uh that's the no side interesting uh there's going to be a debate uh this week or
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next week uh jason kenney is coming out strong on the no side and he's debating keith wilson
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and i think the first debates in edmonton and then there's a subsequent one here in calgary
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um so we'll we'll we'll see but i'm not surprised that carney's not saying anything at this point
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as far as the 90 minute show yeah i want to do a 90 minute show uh we're going to keep doing this
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format for a little while longer if i do 90 minute i would definitely bring in guests for
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about 30 minutes because right now i've been reluctant to bring a guest if i bring a guest
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they'll you know they'll get 15 minutes and i don't think that's very fair so um i appreciate
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the offer or the the thought all right this will probably be the last call so go ahead
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I'm sorry, I have a question, but in regards to the fear surrounding the shell purchasing
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uh sorry i i can i don't know if it's our side or i i i i i maybe hang up and call back we're
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running out of time you'll i think you'll have to call next week we would like uh appreciate it but
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we're running out of time sorry folks um all right wow another hour just flies by and uh i didn't
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get through all my topics i didn't get the actually i got almost through everything the only one i
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didn't get about is the bank of canada keeping its interest rate at 2.25 and there's a whole bunch
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unpacked there maybe i'll do that next week and i wanted to talk a little bit about the united arab
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emirates pulling out of opec which to me was a super interesting uh story i'll try and circle
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that one and bring it up next week somebody put a comment maybe and remind me to talk about that
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