Western Standard - November 01, 2026


MARTY UP NORTH: Is Danielle Smith purposely trying to alienate her base?

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00:00:00.000 hey welcome back um happy halloween first off to everybody uh what is today today is the
00:00:29.840 29th tomorrow's the 30th i is halloween on the 30th or is halloween on the 31st it's the last
00:00:36.480 day of the month right so uh kids will get to go out on saturday night i was walking downtown calgary
00:00:42.000 i was hoping to see maybe a few people dressed up or whatever but the spirit of halloween doesn't
00:00:48.160 seem to be in the air here maybe not as much as things like stampede and other uh holidays um
00:00:55.520 Um, listen, uh, I'm completely unprepared.
00:01:00.900 You guys are going to have to call in and tell me what to talk about.
00:01:03.500 Cause I have no topics to talk about.
00:01:05.420 I have no idea what's going on.
00:01:07.500 Kidding, kidding, kidding, kidding, kidding.
00:01:09.520 I got another full list now.
00:01:12.600 Um, but it is, you know, in all seriousness, we're, we're doing a talk show.
00:01:16.300 I want you guys to call and, uh, just, you know, you can, we, we can chat about things
00:01:20.820 that are on my list here, or we can chat about anything you want.
00:01:24.040 um john put up a topic right there on the on the thumbnail says uh danielle smith is purposely trying 0.94
00:01:32.400 to um uh i can't read it john what did i tell you to put down on the thumbnail uh she she's
00:01:41.900 she's alienating her base right and um and and i'll tell you honestly i was on the show last
00:01:47.800 night i do another i do a weekly show with uh my buddy clyde that clyde do something
00:01:53.380 We do a Wednesday night show.
00:01:55.480 Clyde moved to the U.S. recently, like about four months ago.
00:01:59.260 And so when we do that show, he's still covering,
00:02:02.940 he's trying to bring a Canadian perspective to an American audience.
00:02:06.780 But at the same time, I'm trying to take advantage of Clyde being down there
00:02:11.520 and getting an American perspective for my Canadian audience, right?
00:02:14.700 So we go back and forth.
00:02:16.920 And last night, it didn't matter what we tried to do
00:02:19.700 in what direction we tried to steer the conversation,
00:02:22.560 the only thing anybody wanted to talk about was Danielle Smith.
00:02:27.800 But so we will talk about Danielle Smith and the results of,
00:02:31.980 not the results of the referendum, but what's kind of been happening afterwards.
00:02:35.960 But I'll just to tease you, to give you ideas of maybe things you can call me with.
00:02:42.680 And the phone number is on the screen there, 479-9378, right?
00:02:46.400 So things that are on my list this week is it's something just buzzed in my is that a call already, John?
00:02:54.300 All right. Something's buzzing in there. I don't know if it's buzzing on the air.
00:02:58.760 But so other topics on my list are definitely the B.C. election.
00:03:04.760 I mean, that was on Saturday. Parliament is is going and, you know, there's some stuff happening there.
00:03:12.340 There's the president of the EU coming to in Montreal right now, a bit of controversy with the new prime premier of Quebec and interest rates going up, the budget coming out here locally, the budget and the tax increases and stuff like that.
00:03:35.540 So those are all on my list of things.
00:03:37.000 But before I dive into it real quick, if you'll allow me just to share a proud moment in my life as a parent.
00:03:46.220 Happened yesterday.
00:03:47.380 So I have four kids.
00:03:48.960 You guys know that.
00:03:49.780 I have an oldest daughter who's well-established.
00:03:52.800 She's a senior hairstylist here in Calgary.
00:03:55.400 And then I have three sons.
00:03:57.680 And my three sons all followed in my footsteps, all studied and became engineers.
00:04:03.800 not quite the youngest one so my youngest son Ray he's finished at Christmas this Christmas
00:04:10.700 he will finish his seventh semester so half of his fourth year so he still has one semester after
00:04:18.080 this but he called me yesterday and he told me he accepted a full-time job with a with an
00:04:25.120 engineering firm that had given him a job as a summer student so he worked as a summer student
00:04:29.780 for them and um and now he's back now they offered him full-time work so you know and just to me
00:04:38.900 and then and to any parent out there like i i did not have a i did not have a lot of goals
00:04:46.200 in life uh for my kids except that i wanted them to grow up to be adults contributing members to
00:04:53.360 society and stay out of trouble and so when this happened yesterday you know i kind of like
00:04:58.860 turned to my wife and gave her a big hug and and patted each other on the back because
00:05:03.500 fundamentally mission accomplished so i i just wanted to share that it felt really really good
00:05:10.200 feels really really good when your kids are you know are doing well now i'll sour it a little bit
00:05:20.420 with this add-on though um my father had the same dreams for for his kids right my father very
00:05:27.080 specifically told me that, you know, I hope you do well. He, that dad came from, you know, dad,
00:05:32.360 my father was born, um, in pre-war, uh, world, you know, pre-World War II. So in a, in a sort
00:05:39.120 of a tough era and, um, his dad, when he was young, uh, went to war. And so my, uh, my father
00:05:49.060 had a sort of a tough childhood and wanted me to do better. And, and he told me he was proud later
00:05:55.860 on in life that I had done better. And I think as a generation, that's a generational thing.
00:06:00.760 We always want that for our kids. And I think my generation, generally speaking, did better than
00:06:08.160 the previous generation. But I fear nowadays that my kids and other generations are facing
00:06:17.760 challenges and might not do better generally than we did. Do you know what I mean? I hope
00:06:25.000 that makes sense so so my kids are doing good personally but i think as a generation the kids
00:06:30.520 that today's young adults they have a tough life a tough challenge ahead of them you know
00:06:35.400 getting a getting a job is a big major first step but um it it it barely pays the bills and
00:06:43.500 the prospect for them of owning a house and things like that are are just not there i mean when i was
00:06:48.720 24 years old and I got my first job, my whole future was ahead of me. It looks so bright.
00:06:56.300 All right. Well, let's get into a bit about what's going on with, you know, we're a week
00:07:03.780 past the referendum. So the referendum was on the 19th. We're more than a week past. Officially,
00:07:09.200 officially yesterday or today, the 29th, Elections Alberta published the official results. So the
00:07:14.560 official results are published and nothing fundamentally changed. Question 10, the big
00:07:21.660 one on independence got 25% in favor of option two and 75% in option one. Those numbers are
00:07:32.440 interesting, right? Because 520,000 people chose option two. And some people say, oh,
00:07:40.800 they just picked it for um you know just to send a message it's a pretty it's a pretty big message
00:07:46.780 when you pick that number right you don't you do you don't do that lightly so 500 000 plus people
00:07:51.600 pick that i will go out on a limb and say most of them are conservative and a reminder that in the
00:07:59.380 last election in 2023 smith got you know 990 000 votes as total the her party so um mathematically
00:08:10.260 That kind of tells me that the party, the UCP, membership is 50% in favor of independence.
00:08:21.100 Now, I think I talked about this last week, but I just want to talk about it again, right?
00:08:26.440 As a conservative, I'm a conservative, and I think many of you are also conservatives, we share a common set of values, right?
00:08:33.740 We generally want wise spending of our money, you know, fiscal responsibility.
00:08:41.580 We enjoy our rights and freedoms.
00:08:43.480 We don't like them infringed upon.
00:08:46.240 We believe in small government.
00:08:48.460 We believe in being a little more independent and less reliant on government.
00:08:54.380 And we believe in preserving some traditions, things like that.
00:08:58.200 So that's what makes us conservative.
00:08:59.520 in and of itself being a separatist is not necessarily i i tell people it's not a conservative
00:09:08.060 value it's not one of my core values to me the fact that i'm a separatist is simply to me it's
00:09:15.960 simply a solution to a problem you know i'm blunt about this i think confederation is a failed
00:09:21.120 experiment and i don't think alberta will ever get a fair deal in confederation so i'm a conservative
00:09:26.720 But when I look at problems, one of my solutions to the problem is independence, sovereignty, real sovereignty, real autonomy.
00:09:37.740 And so it's not a value for value's sake.
00:09:40.720 To me, it's a solution.
00:09:42.480 And so the talk that's been going on that started with Danielle Smith.
00:09:48.980 So some of the talk that started with Danielle Smith was in a press conference she gave after the referendum, but she also did a really, really interesting interview on the weekend on it came out on Sunday and it was with the CBC.
00:10:06.940 I can't even remember. And I had a hard time finding this interview because I think, honestly, that in this interview, she was sort of addressing another audience.
00:10:19.600 You know what I mean? Like when she was talking, like I honestly, when I'm looking at that interview and some of the things she says, and I'll come to that,
00:10:26.440 it sounds like she didn't think that any of us would ever be watching that interview.
00:10:31.100 And it almost sounds like she was addressing people in Ontario or Quebec or other parts of Canada, kind of letting them know what had happened in the referendum.
00:10:41.140 And so I got to try and wrap this in a way here.
00:10:46.880 But one of the things she said in her press conference, basically, and I'm paraphrasing, and there's arguments on the interpretation, but she basically said that the referendum, the independence question is settled.
00:11:01.620 and that the independence question is settled
00:11:04.900 and she doesn't want to do another referendum 0.95
00:11:07.100 as long as she's leader, as long as she's premier.
00:11:10.800 And then she went a bit further and even said
00:11:13.180 that if people are still independence-minded,
00:11:18.700 that they should find a new home.
00:11:21.580 And I found that really, really troubling.
00:11:25.480 She almost went as far in the interview as saying
00:11:27.720 people are free to start their own party and things like that.
00:11:30.600 I don't favor that option.
00:11:32.520 OK, that is not like for me, there's three options going forward as a as a conservative in Alberta.
00:11:37.860 One is just accept the status quo, accept the status quo as is and keep voting for the UCP and keep supporting Danielle in her attempts to get us a better deal, which for her means, you know, negotiating on immigration and other things.
00:11:59.100 So that's the status quo, which won, technically won in the referendum.
00:12:04.520 Barely won, by the way, barely won, because as we said, right, questions six, seven, eight and nine were rejected.
00:12:12.580 So she didn't get so her status quo is kind of weak.
00:12:15.600 So that's the first option. The second option is to leave the UCP and splinter and form a new party.
00:12:23.120 And we've and like I said last week, we've talked about this.
00:12:25.780 This is déjà vu all over. This is the wild rose. This is other attempts in the past. And I don't favor that. I think that would guarantee re-election of the NDP. And so then the option in the middle, the one I favor is a, I don't need to call it a reform of the UCP, but a continued evolution of the UCP, right?
00:12:50.180 because the UCP is a brand new party.
00:12:53.500 It was created by Jason Kenney, you know, circa 2021, 2022,
00:12:58.500 and to specifically to, or sorry, it was created before that,
00:13:02.920 not 2022, it was created 2018, 17-18,
00:13:09.140 specifically to combat Notley.
00:13:13.080 Kenney united the group, and then we defeated Notley.
00:13:16.640 Kenny came in and then Kenny got booted and now Smith.
00:13:20.700 So the party is, you know, barely 10 years old kind of thing.
00:13:23.420 And does it need to be reformed or transformed?
00:13:27.180 No, I think the way it works is working very well.
00:13:30.440 And we're going to see it at the AGM, right?
00:13:32.420 People are like we're submitting policies and we're guiding the party.
00:13:38.160 So it doesn't need to be reformed.
00:13:40.160 It needs to continue to evolve.
00:13:42.300 And that's where I'm at.
00:13:44.060 So I want to continue to evolve that party. And and I would hope that within the party that there would be an opportunity to continue to discuss the independence option and other options that I like I would never take anything off the table.
00:14:01.320 And I don't think we can take anything off the table because, practically speaking, 50% of us in the party favor that option.
00:14:11.800 So my next step in the coming months is to continue down that path of encouraging that discussion and hoping that Smith reverses some of her statements that she's made lately.
00:14:26.560 I mean, she's gone as far as saying something like that that anybody who wants to be a voice for the party, whether it's as an MLA or as a director or on the board of the party, needs to sign off on on a guiding principle and distance themselves from independence.
00:14:47.520 And I think that's wrong. All right. I got my first caller. Awesome. So before I finish on, I want to go to the caller right away.
00:14:54.580 So as usual, folks, tell me where you're calling from, your name, please, and what's on your mind.
00:14:59.960 And let's go from there. So go ahead, caller.
00:15:03.520 It's Chris from Calgary.
00:15:05.300 Hey, Chris.
00:15:07.140 Hey, so one thing that I observed with the B.C. election is that I don't know that Daniel Smith is necessarily the one who's bringing the UCP the victory.
00:15:18.720 I mean, if you look at Lauren Dirksen, who the hell was this guy?
00:15:21.520 He came out of nowhere. And basically people there were voting on the party. So I think that the UCP would have a much better chance for re-election next year if Daniel Smith were to step aside. Somebody else from the party who's neutral, didn't decide one way or another, won't comment on it, which is most of the party.
00:15:42.100 then people are going to vote on the party next election what's going to happen now half people
00:15:49.160 are going to stay home because daniel smith is the leader stay on the line chris so i was actually
00:15:54.680 going to talk about that but i'm glad you brought it up right so um so in the bc election in your
00:16:02.080 mind so you brought up a couple of things um there was definitely so the bc election proves
00:16:08.880 that the leader is not necessarily as important as as we think it is is that is that kind of your
00:16:15.560 thought exactly okay yeah so so in bc the leader is not as important so you're right right like who
00:16:22.980 was lauren dirksen right i mean we'd never heard of the guy i know he was already uh whatever at
00:16:27.460 mla but basically you're right we hadn't heard about him and and and then what in your mind
00:16:32.900 what was the core of the what what were the voters thinking in bc like um were they were
00:16:39.540 they just elect were they just voting against eb or were they you know what i mean like what what
00:16:44.660 was their core um way of thinking when they were voting well yeah i think that they were they were
00:16:51.620 trying to vote down the ndp and i mean even right now this is smith's big threat as well it's got
00:16:57.060 to be near to the ndp and it's like well i don't know if you were to step aside i don't think the
00:17:02.340 the NDP would have a hope in hell.
00:17:04.200 I think we could run a broomstick with a talk hat
00:17:06.460 and have a better chance of winning the election
00:17:08.940 than we do running with you
00:17:10.600 because you've alienated half of your party.
00:17:13.760 Like, half the party's going to stay home.
00:17:16.040 We could run literally anybody.
00:17:18.660 I could run my dog.
00:17:19.640 We'd get more votes.
00:17:21.200 So, Chris, do you think...
00:17:22.440 Okay, cool.
00:17:23.700 I like that.
00:17:24.980 Now, me personally, like I just said,
00:17:26.820 I'm not ready to kick her to the curb.
00:17:29.700 I'd like to hear what she has to say.
00:17:32.520 I mean, she does a lot of good for the province, right?
00:17:34.280 I've always said that.
00:17:35.120 I mean, I generally like the direction that she's taking us in.
00:17:40.900 But do you think we, I'll be blunt, do you want her gone or would you hang on until the next election?
00:17:51.880 Well, I think the best chance for the UCP to win re-election is for her to step aside.
00:17:57.640 Interesting.
00:17:58.000 Okay.
00:17:58.480 Okay. No, no, that's a valid point. I mean, I'm not there yet, but I might.
00:18:02.100 And if she really cared about defeating the NDP in the next election, she would see the wisdom in that.
00:18:10.400 And I mean, there's plenty of party members in the UCP who haven't declared one way or another, as the NDP is constantly reminding us.
00:18:19.320 They're like, oh, you've got all these members and nobody said that they're loyal to Canada or that they're like nobody said one thing one way or the other.
00:18:27.540 So there's a whole bunch of people who could step up and just, I'm neutral.
00:18:33.720 Which is what Daniel Smith should have done in the first place.
00:18:37.040 Fair enough, fair enough.
00:18:38.580 Where are you calling from, Chris?
00:18:40.220 I might have missed it when you said it.
00:18:43.240 Calgary.
00:18:43.740 Calgary, awesome.
00:18:44.580 Okay, well, thanks for calling.
00:18:45.580 Are you a first-time caller, or I think we've talked before, right?
00:18:49.300 No, no, no, yeah, we talked before.
00:18:51.620 Awesome.
00:18:52.260 Okay, well, thanks for that.
00:18:54.320 We're fundamentally on the same page.
00:18:55.940 Thanks, Chris.
00:18:57.540 Yeah. Yeah. I just don't think Danielle Smith should put herself before the party. And thanks. Thanks again, Marty.
00:19:03.140 Awesome. Cheers. OK, so, yeah, I mean, that ties in with where I was. Right. So I was just talking about me personally. I think Danielle should more or less retract some of the comments she made recently.
00:19:15.940 And and then I think I think hopefully she can read the room and realize that that that she's got to embrace people like myself who who who don't entirely agree with her solution and want to keep pushing for independence.
00:19:33.940 independence now um uh i gotta come well let's wave there let's go there real quick i mean
00:19:42.500 the elections only the referendums 10 days ago and already we can see that we lost uh an
00:19:49.700 opportunity of of getting like if she wants to negotiate with ottawa she needs leverage and i
00:19:55.940 think by losing she lost some leverage and we already saw that this week we've seen it twice
00:20:00.760 three times right so in the house of commons uh earlier this week the conservatives introduced
00:20:07.340 a motion to try and repeal the tanker ban the west coast tanker ban and it was defeated
00:20:13.980 like it was defeated so i mean that's that's like that's a we're dead in the water already on on
00:20:22.120 on getting like a pipeline built and things like that because and and this is a simple like if the
00:20:28.020 If the Liberals can't reverse something as simple as a tanker ban, how are they going to open the Constitution?
00:20:35.140 I mean, that was crazy what happened this week.
00:20:39.360 And then the other thing, and I don't want to dive into it just yet, but the other thing that's happening this week is Carney is going, went visiting, you know, he went to overseas and now he's invited the EU.
00:20:51.820 He's invited, I can't remember, what's her name? Ursula von something.
00:20:56.060 She's in Montreal, and he's still moving us
00:20:59.320 and still trying to get us into the European Union.
00:21:02.100 I'll come back to that, right?
00:21:03.300 I'll come back to that.
00:21:04.580 So I wish I had a link to that interview.
00:21:09.720 If you follow me, the Danielle Smith interview with the CBC,
00:21:15.020 the hour-long interview.
00:21:16.680 It was hard to find.
00:21:19.300 I put it on X.
00:21:21.500 maybe after this show
00:21:23.040 maybe I'll get John
00:21:24.600 I'll send the link to John
00:21:26.400 and John can put the link
00:21:27.480 and people can go find it
00:21:28.460 I mean I don't want to usually
00:21:29.560 like I don't want to promote the CBC
00:21:31.280 but it's a good interview
00:21:33.420 and like I said
00:21:35.900 she says some things in there
00:21:38.680 that I think are really contradictory
00:21:40.660 and not well thought out
00:21:44.160 but when I listened to that interview
00:21:46.400 a couple of times
00:21:47.300 I think she was targeting
00:21:49.080 a different audience
00:21:50.080 It's like one of the questions, another question that came out boldly in that interview, the interviewer asked her, like, you know, how are you going to, you know, make friends, make amends with the separatists?
00:22:04.620 They're the ones who elected you. And then she does this, this weird Kamala Harris cackle. And then she answers. She's like, no, it's not separatists that got me elected.
00:22:16.180 It's people that were against COVID and people that were against mandates and people that were against, you know, overreach and trampling of our rights and things like that.
00:22:26.660 And as she's naming them off, I'm doing like a Venn diagram in my head and going, they all intersect with, you know, that people like me, again, who were against the vaccine mandates were the people who really value freedoms and are the people who don't like Ottawa.
00:22:43.480 And so we're kind of one in the same. I mean, I think she was being very specific at the time. I get that at the time in 2023 when she was elected. Yes, we were kicking out, you know, we had just kicked out Kenny basically on on COVID and on on overreach.
00:23:03.420 And so, sure, you could say that that's who elected her at the time, but it's the same group. It's the same base. So that statement was really interesting and I think damaging. And then, you know, there's there's a bit of damage. The damage continues. Right.
00:23:20.240 So after that, two days ago, all of us who are members of the UCP got a letter from the president of the UCP, Rob Smith. And it's it's a short letter. But in the letter, he literally says it's settled. It's settled. I don't want to talk about this. It's settled. And sorry, Rob, but it's not settled. OK, it's not settled, especially not a 50 percent of a group are of an opinion.
00:23:48.280 That's far from settled. And and that's not how our democracy works. And that's absolutely not how this party works. So this party, you know, the way this party works and most parties is the members of the party, all like 40,000 of us, we go to the AGM and at the AGM, we elect the leadership of the party.
00:24:13.700 So we elect the board of directors and we elect a president. And then those guys, and then we elect people in charge of whatever fundraising and in charge of policies. And then what we do throughout the year is anybody who's a member is free to write up a proposal, a policy.
00:24:33.280 You know, what could be a policy? I think that we should support our farmers' right to sell from their farm without having to go to a slaughterhouse.
00:24:47.340 That's an example of a policy. Somebody can write that policy.
00:24:50.960 So throughout the year, hundreds and hundreds of policies are written and proposed and sent to the board of the party.
00:25:00.840 and those policies are written by individuals
00:25:03.860 and they're written by groups
00:25:05.660 and they're written by constituency associations
00:25:08.280 and then those policies get reviewed
00:25:09.960 and we get the opportunity to rank the policy.
00:25:13.880 So a couple of weeks ago,
00:25:15.820 I got to go read like 300 policies
00:25:18.560 that have been submitted
00:25:19.420 and I could rank them one, two, three or four
00:25:21.940 and then somebody tabulated them
00:25:23.660 and the most popular policy proposals
00:25:26.460 will be debated on the floor of the AGM
00:25:29.260 coming up in four weeks.
00:25:32.080 And then if the party passes a policy that says something like,
00:25:36.180 you know, we don't support politics in the classroom,
00:25:41.280 then that's a platform of the party.
00:25:45.620 And then people who are elected under our platform,
00:25:48.780 such as the Premier and MLAs, are kind of obligated to,
00:25:52.960 they're obligated to represent their constituents,
00:25:55.240 the people who voted for them,
00:25:56.460 But they're also obligated to to try and move the policies forward, the policies put forth by the party and move them forward once they form government.
00:26:07.900 So Smith can't just tell us it's on its resolved and I don't want to hear about it.
00:26:12.400 That's the party's decision. And she definitely can't tell a board member, you need to meet these, you know, these these you need to have these values in order to be a candidate.
00:26:26.180 No, that's up to us to decide. If Frank wants to show up and run for Calgary regional director, the representative, or if Larry wants to run as the VP of communications for the party, I can ask him questions on where he stands.
00:26:46.280 But if I and if he tells me he's against independence, I might vote against him or for him.
00:26:52.280 But I the membership chooses who we elect to be on the board.
00:26:56.780 So, like, this is really, really interesting what's going on, which is why the topic was that we chose today is, is she trying to alienate her base?
00:27:06.300 Because a lot of the things she's done in the last couple of days since, well, actually, it's gone on before that.
00:27:12.160 I mean, I think she started alienating her base a year ago, more than that. 0.76
00:27:18.680 And she's continuing to alienate her base.
00:27:22.720 And I think I'm going to leave it at that.
00:27:26.840 I mean, I think that's where we're at right now.
00:27:30.100 We got, well, I got one last bit, one last bit.
00:27:34.960 Sorry, and good thing I took some notes.
00:27:38.960 It's somewhat related to this. 1.00
00:27:42.160 And she's alienating her base. And some days I wonder why. Is there another ulterior motive? Right. Is she compromised? Does she have her own agenda? Is she really naive? I don't know. Right. You asked me the question on what's going through Danielle Smith's mind. And my answer changes from week to week to week, depending on current events.
00:28:02.760 But this week, there was an event that occurred again that I'm that I just shake my head.
00:28:08.380 So she was up on stage. She did a brief press conference and and and and it's an announcement around COVID vaccines and the new, you know, it's a season.
00:28:19.620 So there's a COVID. We're now at the point where COVID is treated like the flu.
00:28:23.840 There's an annual flu and apparently there's an annual COVID.
00:28:27.020 and don't get me started on the the science behind that that's not the point that i want to make
00:28:32.740 today but she was on stage instead of just letting andrea lagrange or whoever's the health minister
00:28:38.460 talk about this smith took an opportunity to go on stage and talk about this expanded
00:28:42.680 covid vaccine program and how it's being extended to kids as young as six months old blah blah blah
00:28:49.160 blah blah blah blah right well that's to me i'm like that's that's not reading the room we just
00:28:56.040 had the allison inquiry not too long ago in ottawa where we had tons of people uh you know testify
00:29:01.920 about vaccine injuries she commissioned a uh a study on this the davidson study which came out
00:29:09.540 with recommendations and she didn't do anything of that and she admitted that the covid crowd
00:29:14.300 that got rid of uh kenny and got her in the power but then she goes and does this on stage so i was
00:29:21.200 like confused maybe you guys can tell me why you think she did that i got a caller go ahead what's
00:29:26.460 on your mind hey mary it's bern can you hear me i can how are you i'm good thanks i'm in calgary
00:29:37.320 and uh first of all i want to speak thanks for all the stuff that you're doing here trying to
00:29:42.060 burn the light onto this i wanted to ask do you think or have you heard the term performative
00:29:48.220 politics yes somewhat yeah so do you think that maybe most of the politicians that were
00:29:56.500 with daniel smith they're more concerned about looking good than actually doing good because
00:30:02.660 the thing is like i mean we already had a clear mandate about uh about equalization in the in the
00:30:08.880 previous referendum and then we saw that premier kenny the former premier kenny he just sent a
00:30:16.100 letter to the prime minister's office and to the premiers and when they said no we left it at that
00:30:20.420 um you know i i think that a lot of people are maybe frustrated and uh i'm going to the to the
00:30:28.360 agm next month and i paid my ten dollars you know and two hundred dollars per ticket i know there's
00:30:32.540 lots of people that want to go and there's people that want to vote her out and they want to keep
00:30:35.740 her in and the thing is i think that there's things that the premier could have done but chose
00:30:43.300 not to but she didn't mean to go to a vote to go and say well let's start our pension plan for
00:30:49.300 instance um so i guess the question i have is and i'd like to look at the last call we said about
00:30:56.500 you know we could put a broomstick with the hat on and they might win and the example lauren
00:31:00.500 dirksen winning is a good you know example of that so i don't think hopi and their fear
00:31:06.420 is is or intimidation is the strategy that's going to carry us forward in the long term and i think
00:31:12.020 the whole thing about that well we either have daniel smith or we have minchi maybe maybe there's
00:31:17.940 somebody else you know coming up out of the ranks like i think a lot of people spoke really highly
00:31:21.860 about keith wilson for example yeah like i i don't know but i guess what do you think you know how
00:31:28.660 when is canada or when are canadian because i love canada but i don't like that we have you know
00:31:33.540 all these epic violations with i mean it's through his office you know with brooke heels and you know
00:31:38.660 maybe christian freeland isn't necessarily uh you know doing the ukraine for you know the goodness
00:31:43.620 of her heart maybe you know there's a lot of questions but but you know when people are trying
00:31:48.260 to you know be able to afford groceries or rent or they see you know that ramparts have gone up
00:31:52.740 800 in the last year and we have a prime minister that's saying that we're living in the most
00:31:57.220 affordable time ever it's like yeah you're you're breaking up a little bit so what was the question
00:32:02.100 is somebody gonna wake me up yeah what was the question is performance politics yeah so when
00:32:07.540 when are we going to or what do we need to see from daniel what do you think we need to see from 0.94
00:32:12.980 daniel smith actually believe that she's not in it for herself so that she's going to do something
00:32:18.180 from her because i like that she lowered the threshold you know for the referendum but then
00:32:22.260 she you know took aside and spent a whole bunch of money in campaigning against it so yeah i don't
00:32:26.580 know what she stands for and i guess i'm asking what do you think she stands for okay um thanks
00:32:31.620 Thanks for calling. I'll ask you to hang up so somebody else can call in.
00:32:36.840 I mean, there's no easy answer.
00:32:42.840 First of all, I guess we're going to have to wait.
00:32:46.640 To his first comment, right?
00:32:49.560 I mean, is it performative and whatever?
00:32:51.840 I mean, politicians are politicians, right?
00:32:54.300 Most of them get elected in some sort of, it's a popularity contest.
00:32:59.620 They get elected. And then I swear to God, once they're elected, half their job becomes staying in power like that's that's always the case.
00:33:06.560 I mean, I can step back and sort of say that perhaps there's two or three different kinds of politicians.
00:33:11.920 Right. There's the there's the very well-intentioned, naive person who goes in, gets elected, thinks they're going to be a representative of the people and do do some good.
00:33:23.620 And they come in and they realize how the machine works and they get they get completely discouraged and then they do one year and they leave.
00:33:30.960 And I think this always happens to politicians when they come in, they get tested like all the other politicians are like, is he really one of us?
00:33:38.340 Is he on the team? Can we bring him on board? Are his values or her values flexible and so forth?
00:33:44.520 So there's a lot of people go in, get discouraged and they're out.
00:33:46.840 then there's others who go in manage to work the system and uh and manage to do some good and stay
00:33:54.920 in there and but those are rare and then there's the ones that go in well intention see how the
00:34:01.320 system works realize that there's a lot of money to be made here and um and and and and the way
00:34:08.260 they go they stay in power forever and ever and that's one of the reasons i'd like term limits
00:34:12.540 and things like that. 1.00
00:34:13.700 I don't know where Danielle is in this whole spectrum.
00:34:16.360 I really don't.
00:34:17.680 But she's been talking a good story.
00:34:20.160 People like her.
00:34:21.220 But I think people are finally getting tired of the false promises.
00:34:30.100 She's moving forward just enough to make it look like
00:34:33.520 something's significant is happening.
00:34:35.200 But if you think about it, sure, you know, reverse these SOGI policies,
00:34:40.220 policies, got the sort of politics out of the classroom. I mean, that one didn't work too well.
00:34:45.040 Is it still to be determined? Now she's announced she's going to reduce DEI, eliminate DEI hiring 0.93
00:34:51.100 practices and a few things like that. But at the end of the day, AHS is still a mess. Budgets are
00:34:57.000 still out of control and running high. And there's been no real wins with Ottawa. She'll say, well,
00:35:05.080 I got Trudeau fired or I got Stephen Gilbeau fired.
00:35:09.260 Gilbeau quit because he got pissed off at Kearney.
00:35:12.780 Trudeau quit because, you know, he made his millions and he was done anyways.
00:35:17.940 And so, and as far as like, you know, like the pipelines, no, we don't have pipelines.
00:35:24.280 Anyway, so I'm rambling a little bit, but I think the AGM is going to be very interesting.
00:35:30.680 And so what I think she needs to do, what I really think she needs to do,
00:35:33.400 She needs to read the room. If she's genuine, if she's genuine and wants to do good and wants to keep the NDP out of power, then she will do the same kind of brainstorming we're doing here. And she will come up to there's only one conclusion. And the conclusion is she either has to embrace a bunch of independence minded people and find a way to bring us into the big tent and share in the conversation and share in the solution that she's proposing. And she's going to have to be flexible.
00:36:01.220 and I'm just going to work down
00:36:03.880 I'm just going to write flexible here
00:36:05.660 so I can come back to my thought on this one
00:36:08.060 but I want to go to the call
00:36:09.460 so I got a caller, go ahead caller
00:36:10.840 Hi, hello, hello Marty
00:36:15.120 Yep
00:36:15.540 So like
00:36:19.020 my name is Rob
00:36:20.620 so I speak from Cochrane
00:36:22.300 I'm actually a immigrant
00:36:24.800 I came from Brazil in 2017
00:36:27.360 and my question
00:36:29.420 to you is like this
00:36:31.160 It's kind of related to the question that the guy asked previously, like, why we don't have, like, good men trying to run for politics?
00:36:41.700 Like, only, like, these effeminated men, like, for example, Calgary, Edmonton, like, in Cochrane itself.
00:36:48.300 Like, there's no, like, brave men running for politics.
00:36:54.580 Yeah, yeah, no.
00:36:57.800 Was it Rob, you said?
00:36:59.120 yeah yeah um yeah well there's i i don't know the answer i i do know the answer i mean i i one of
00:37:11.520 the answers is that um especially here in alberta there's there's there's there's good money to be
00:37:18.800 made in in the private sector and so people don't want to go in politics i mean in canada for the
00:37:24.480 longest time, for the longest time in Canada, politics and working in the civil sector was like
00:37:32.880 a second rate job. And it still is a second rate job. And it attracts people who don't succeed
00:37:38.800 elsewhere in other departments. That's my that's my crude gut answer to that one. And we see it all
00:37:45.260 the time. And there's been attempts, there's, you know, people had a theory that if we just paid
00:37:49.720 more you would attract um better people into politics and that's never going to happen because
00:37:56.320 better people want jobs that are truly rewarding where they have an impact where the risk reward
00:38:03.180 ratio is there and where people can make change and and that's not politics and that's not the
00:38:09.840 civil service you know so i i don't know what's your theory i'll throw it back at you why i mean
00:38:16.000 and you come from another country,
00:38:17.200 are Brazilian politicians different than Canadian ones? 0.59
00:38:22.980 No, they're much worse.
00:38:25.180 So, but the thing is, Marty, like, for example,
00:38:27.440 when good men like yourself, like Keith Wilson,
00:38:31.480 you guys, we can see, right?
00:38:33.680 We kind of know you because you like every day
00:38:36.720 on the internet, we kind of already can pick up
00:38:39.280 like how you guys think, what are your values?
00:38:42.720 Like if like would mean like like yourself, like don't put yourself in line, like be direct to take over.
00:38:52.220 Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this. Here's another here's another reality that's happened to politics.
00:38:58.400 It's it's it's become an institution and a club that looks after itself purely.
00:39:05.160 And so I guarantee you that if I tried to run tomorrow, if I announced my candidature to run a Danielle,
00:39:12.720 smith would probably cancel it and and decline it not allow me to run but even if i ran the machine
00:39:18.880 would literally the first step is to get is to be the candidate and the the party would work against
00:39:24.320 me because i'm not an insider and i don't think like them and i'm a threat to them and so um the
00:39:30.720 machine it the the the government exists and and it's so big that it protects itself is what it's
00:39:36.160 doing i is is is one of my answers to that and i think we're and in fact we we're going to test
00:39:41.680 that theory there is going to be an election and i know for a fact that there are a lot of people
00:39:47.920 that are going to present themselves as candidates as a test to see if the party is willing to accept
00:39:53.840 them so um i i don't have a better answer but uh but but thanks for calling cheers all right thank
00:40:01.600 you yeah yeah um yeah great question i mean uh which uh we'll come back to that one
00:40:11.680 so many things that we want to talk about today but i i wrote down flexible because i wanted to
00:40:16.240 just add this little bit right um when when you listen to one of the things that i don't like
00:40:23.360 about danielle smith is that when you listen to her talk in again i'm telling you you got to go
00:40:29.600 look at this interview you got to go find this interview i'll after this show i'll find the link
00:40:33.480 and i'll get john to add the link to the to the bottom here um you you gotta in this interview
00:40:40.520 She talks and talks and talks. That's one of the things that Danielle has a similar flaw. I have the same flaw. I think out loud. It's not a flaw. I think out loud. Right. I think out loud. I was an engineer when I was an engineer and I would brainstorm. I think out loud. So, you know, if the problem was there's a tank that way over there and I can't reach it and I need to empty the tank, I might think out loud and I say, well, you know, we could shoot at it and put a hole in the tank or I can send a monkey and to climb the ladder and he can 1.00
00:41:10.400 open the valve whatever right so you know what i mean i'm i'm thinking out loud and when i'm
00:41:13.740 thinking out loud you can hear sound bites from me and then you get a you get a view of how i'm
00:41:19.160 thinking generally in life and and and and my philosophies because my sound bites will come
00:41:25.600 out over and over and over and so and then when when danielle was doing this interview you hear
00:41:30.480 the same sound bites over and over and over she can't help herself when she's talking and then
00:41:35.120 she brings up things like you know she wants to increase immigration because she thinks that
00:41:40.120 That's a way for the province to get more clout.
00:41:42.260 And she wants to do this and she wants to do that.
00:41:44.520 And so when she's left to talk, she brings up things that show who she truly is.
00:41:50.740 And one of the things you realize is that she has an idea in her mind
00:41:54.580 and she's playing a game and she's pretending to ask us what we want.
00:42:00.160 But, you know, it's a win-win for her to give us a referendum, right?
00:42:05.220 Do you guys want to do, you know, should I shrink inflation?
00:42:09.000 and let's say she's already thinking she wants to shrink inflation should i shrink inflation if we
00:42:13.760 say yes she goes bingo i'll do it and if we say no she'll like i was non-binding and uh i'm still
00:42:19.380 gonna do it anyways right so she does that a lot and so keep that in mind when you watch her all
00:42:24.780 right i got another call uh go ahead caller go ahead oh hello go ahead i i can hear you
00:42:38.340 hi there i was actually just calling in to speak with marty am i speaking with marty
00:42:46.420 john it's too i don't know if it's too loud i can i i
00:42:51.620 you can hear okay try again what's on your mind
00:42:56.420 all right so what i wanted to mention was that if we really want to focus on a better
00:43:02.420 canada we have to stop expecting to do the same things and get the results so being motivated by
00:43:08.020 fear is not the way that we're actually going to make any you're sorry you're gonna i can't hear
00:43:14.900 at all like it's just it's just uh try again okay one more time is this better better way better
00:43:24.260 there you go okay okay awesome yeah so actually what i wanted to mention was the way we're in
00:43:31.460 see it if you have to look at a couple things just concretely what we've done before you haven't
00:43:36.420 made the changes that you want to have happen being motivated by fear that energy is going to
00:43:41.540 be coming into power is not our best foot forward planning based on a fear is never the best choice
00:43:48.420 we have to look at the reality oh i'm sorry
00:43:52.180 uh-oh she uh she was onto something good did i lose her or did we lose her her line double
00:44:02.200 beeped uh i'm so sorry um well maybe she can call again is there another call right now john
00:44:07.280 no um yeah i i i kind of think i know where she was going with this you know um i'm oh is she back
00:44:17.620 new caller all right let's go with the new caller go ahead caller
00:44:20.560 Hi, Marty. It's Ken Kong from Central Alberta.
00:44:26.400 Hey, Ken. How's it going?
00:44:27.300 I just want to ask you, because of the federal election and now this referendum,
00:44:34.540 how do you think conservative voters feel about their party and voting in general?
00:44:43.000 The federal party? Like the federal conservatives?
00:44:46.000 Well, the federal conservatives, yes. I have an idea on that.
00:44:50.560 We can talk a little later, but just this referendum and how Daniel was treated, treated the issues and how do you think conservative voters will actually come out and vote in this upcoming provincial election?
00:45:09.040 oh okay um well i think that's sort of the topic we're exploring today i if i if i had to guess
00:45:18.240 today based on what i'm hearing today what i'm hearing today i would say um a few people she
00:45:27.460 would lose the the the ucp would lose some votes i i think based on what i saw what's happening
00:45:33.040 And currently, the UCP would lose some votes.
00:45:35.860 There are a few parties.
00:45:38.580 There is some splintering.
00:45:39.760 There are some new parties setting up.
00:45:41.900 There are some that already exist, you know, the Republican Party and the Independence Party.
00:45:46.260 There are parties that exist.
00:45:47.500 And I think there's already been a splinter.
00:45:49.580 So if the election was tomorrow, I think the UCP would still win because Nenshi is really not that popular and he has no platform.
00:46:00.400 Now, that's today.
00:46:03.040 A lot can change in the next year. And I think that's what we're exploring. I hope that in the next year, Danielle can see that there's a lot of wisdom in really embracing everybody with conservative values, regardless of how they feel about independence. Does that make sense?
00:46:19.240 Yeah, it does. So here's another statement I have. Because there's a potential for a federal party for Alberta to form and make a push for federal politics, I think there's a big bridge there for that party to reach out to Albertans and say, support the UCP.
00:46:44.900 But know that, you know, we're fighting for Alberta on the federal level,
00:46:51.460 and we need provincial politics to align with that.
00:46:54.400 Yes, that's happening.
00:46:55.940 And that, yes, that's happening.
00:47:00.320 I can't remember the name of the party, but there is a party being set up.
00:47:05.260 Drew Barnes and a gentleman named C.W. Alexander and others are setting up a federal party
00:47:10.460 modeled a bit after the Bloc Québécois.
00:47:13.620 I guess it's kind of modeled after the Reform Party of like 20 years ago kind of thing.
00:47:18.720 And I would, me personally, I would have no, I mean, I've done it for all the last elections.
00:47:23.080 For the last, I haven't voted federally conservative in the last three or four elections.
00:47:29.580 I mean, I basically wasted my vote because it didn't matter to me.
00:47:34.920 Real conservatives are never going to get elected federally in this country.
00:47:40.200 And so if a party like you're describing, and I know it's going to happen, I would vote for that party.
00:47:45.580 That's why I voted for Wexit, or not Wexit, for Maverick and PPC and other parties in recent history for that reason.
00:47:53.600 And it was kind of a wasted vote.
00:47:56.820 They weren't getting a lot of traction, but I think this time around, a new Alberta independence federal party will get a lot of traction.
00:48:05.960 yeah i i do agree with you 100 and uh thanks marty i appreciate your show and your perspective
00:48:14.500 and uh hey great job with the family all right thanks for calling cheers um yeah i can't remember
00:48:20.740 the name of the the the party is uh well it's drew barnes drew barnes is uh uh if i remember
00:48:26.500 correctly drew barnes was an alliance or not an alliance uh a wild rose mla he's one of the ones
00:48:32.700 who did not cross the floor and stayed on,
00:48:35.040 then left provincial politics,
00:48:36.660 and now he's dabbling in federal politics.
00:48:39.420 But they're collecting the signatures
00:48:44.720 to get registered as a party.
00:48:48.680 Wow. Okay.
00:48:49.920 Well, so where was I when I...
00:48:53.420 Okay, so what else have I got?
00:48:55.060 I'm looking at the clock, and I did one topic.
00:48:58.120 Like I said, this is what happened yesterday
00:48:59.980 when I was talking with my buddy Clyde.
00:49:01.580 We just couldn't get away from Danielle.
00:49:03.380 It's a fascinating thing.
00:49:05.060 We have a year.
00:49:06.020 We have a whole year before the next election.
00:49:09.500 Some people say, can it be longer than a year?
00:49:12.240 We have fixed election dates. 1.00
00:49:13.980 So it could be shorter if she decided to do an EB. 1.00
00:49:17.400 That's going to become a term now, by the way, right? 0.84
00:49:19.140 We're going to say that.
00:49:19.860 You did an EB.
00:49:20.720 You committed political suicide.
00:49:25.040 So we have fixed election dates.
00:49:26.920 So a year from now, a lot can happen in the next year.
00:49:29.480 a lot can happen both here and in ottawa so um all right caller on the line uh let's keep taking
00:49:37.800 calls go ahead caller where are you calling from what's on your mind hey marty it's dwight from
00:49:43.240 calgary hey dwight how are you i'm doing okay i'm really getting pissed off with uh danielle smith 0.95
00:49:50.760 be honest with you every time she seems to i joined the ucp back in may when she totally blew the
00:50:01.480 the referendum question and added her own question without telling the the courts to go
00:50:10.600 you know pounce and suck it yeah yeah and uh you know that i decided dan i was going to get 0.97
00:50:16.840 into that AGM I bought my ticket I'm ready to you know vote her out and since then she has done 0.99
00:50:25.840 nothing but get worse and worse and worse and you know with uh you know this is my party you know 0.99
00:50:33.640 just like it's almost like power corrupts because now she thinks she's the party and um she couldn't
00:50:41.480 be further from the truth she needs to be humbled a little bit because i think she thinks all of
00:50:47.680 this is because of her and um you know like and with the covid thing i mean it just it just keeps
00:50:54.840 getting worse like i we see i couldn't i wouldn't be surprised seeing her wear a liberal sign on
00:51:02.640 her chest at the agm because it's just like i don't know what else could she do that could be
00:51:09.540 worse than what she's done i i'm i'm with you um a couple of things um it's going to be just just
00:51:18.200 to just to be clear there is no easy mechanism to quote unquote humble her at the agm right so
00:51:24.900 the the the party rules are that there's a leadership review every three years so we had
00:51:30.280 one in uh 2024 so there isn't one this year doesn't mean we won't find way i mean if she
00:51:36.400 gets booed during her ex uh like she'll do a um you know um uh keynote speech and she'll speak at
00:51:43.160 events and she'll she'll have an opportunity to hear us and so i think if we if we we'll have to
00:51:48.800 send a message that way that said there's already five constituency associations that pass motions
00:51:53.980 to try and ask for a a vote so we'll see what happens um yeah when when everybody was talking
00:52:01.500 about these constituency offices, I looked up mine and they'd already voted in support of
00:52:09.160 Danielle Smith. Like they're already one of those ones that have been taken over by the 0.91
00:52:15.960 Danielle crew. You're going to have an eye opener when you go to the AGM. Welcome, by the way. Thank
00:52:22.740 you. Like I'm glad, you know, you're joining the movement and you're being engaged, which is
00:52:28.800 awesome um you're gonna see the establishment and the other side and you're gonna see that even in
00:52:35.360 a party like ours there is a strong strong establishment there's a machine that works
00:52:40.000 that has more advantages than us that's for sure yeah yeah i i know that but i just i well i'm just
00:52:48.000 getting so fed up with this bs that's it just was it's so frustrating but you're doing the right
00:52:55.040 thing by the way you're doing the right thing right so um you're you're you're proving one
00:53:00.740 of the points i told you the story or i told you guys the story a couple last week i think
00:53:04.920 shane gets in just resigned right shane gets in just resigned and uh shane was a pretty popular
00:53:10.600 mla and he's the one that i had a chat with at the agm that's the other beautiful thing about
00:53:14.800 the agms these guys the the ucp mlas are generally very accessible they walk around the floor you can
00:53:20.900 chat with him which is awesome and he's the one at the AGM two years ago that said to me like this
00:53:26.760 is awesome look at this there's 6,000 people and I told him like Shane what are you proud of
00:53:30.660 there's 6,000 people because we're pissed off and we're engaged and we're trying to steer you guys
00:53:35.640 if you guys were doing a really really really good job we wouldn't be coming to the AGM so
00:53:40.640 the fact you're confirming that right this you said this is your first AGM yeah yeah yeah awesome
00:53:47.680 Awesome. Yeah, yeah. So don't be shy. If you see me at the AGM, find me. I think I'll be, I might either be there as media with the Western Standard, but I'm also going to be there as a participant. I mean, I bought my, I'm a member. I want to vote, right? I don't want to just be an observer. But if you see me, don't be shy. Say hi. And I encourage you, like, find those MLAs and chat with them. They're open. They're humans too, right? So find them and chat with them. Thanks for calling.
00:54:14.120 all right thanks marty yeah yeah awesome um yeah the other thing i was going to say uh i'll give a
00:54:20.940 quick i think it's uh uh i i don't even know who i wish i knew who now i'm i feel bad i'm telling
00:54:27.760 you guys things but i don't have the links but somebody somebody online like one of the maybe
00:54:32.660 it's one of the tpas maybe it's uh uh jason levine or somebody somebody's selling t-shirts
00:54:38.500 for the AGM and that say I voted option two so that's a message right that's a cool message so
00:54:45.220 if if like if a thousand people show up at the AGM with a t-shirt that says I voted option two
00:54:50.880 that's a pretty strong message to Danielle that you can't ignore that when she's going to be
00:54:55.380 giving her speeches so all right this might be the last call maybe it's the lady who called
00:54:59.320 earlier go ahead call her what's on your mind and what's your name
00:55:01.860 hello it's uh gordon here i'm marty um uh yeah if i'm the one you're looking for
00:55:12.920 go ahead gordon what's on your mind i just want to make a statement i just want to say something
00:55:19.260 about covid okay if let me allow here it's not a question i want to maybe take back when when we
00:55:25.620 have to go get the covid shot when it was when they said it was mandatory now some people say
00:55:31.020 it was never mandatory well if you were working it was now this is my point back in i found out
00:55:38.220 i don't know how i found out about but it's something called the serology test you get a
00:55:42.540 serology check you pay 50 out of your pocket they got back and he said i was negative that i was
00:55:48.540 not a carrier and that i was my system was immune to it i did not get the shot i was working part
00:55:54.380 time at the time okay i'm full you're tired now i ran to my client employer and i was one-on-one
00:56:01.100 i told him this he said have you told anybody else this and i said no i kept it under my hat
00:56:07.340 he said please keep it quiet because it said it'll cause chaos and i said okay i'll do it because in
00:56:13.340 my book it's time people started doing finding stuff for themselves because if i told people
00:56:18.380 that anyway they wouldn't believe me but you see that's all it took and did cost me money
00:56:23.660 I never got a shot, and I'm never going to get a shot.
00:56:26.580 Now, with COVID, again, the back knees up, they're saying it's not mandatory.
00:56:32.500 But if it's mandatory, I still got my piece of paper, and I'm quite prepared to check myself again for $50.
00:56:38.680 That's all I want to say.
00:56:39.740 No, no, hey, we're on the same page.
00:56:42.360 You're preaching to the choir.
00:56:44.300 Congratulations.
00:56:45.040 God bless you for doing that.
00:56:46.260 I mean, it was the biggest psychological operation in my lifetime,
00:56:52.220 And the pressures to go get vaccinated were immense. Right. And so you didn't succumb. And that's awesome. I didn't succumb. And a lot of us, a lot of other people did not. So spread that word, man. Spread that gospel. I'm 100 percent with you on that one.
00:57:08.380 I do. Every chance I get. Awesome. You too. Thanks. OK, well, OK, well, I guess I'm I better keep this sheet of paper because I really, really wanted to talk about the EU and Ursula von der Leyen.
00:57:22.220 coming to Montreal and the snub that, uh, of, of, uh, PSPP, uh, Pierre, uh, or, or, uh,
00:57:30.720 whatever. Anyways, um, we'll, we'll cover that next week. Uh, I never got to talk about the,
00:57:38.280 the PBO, I guess next week, probably the big topic for us will be the budget, right? Carney's
00:57:42.640 budget is coming out on November 5th and, uh, the parliamentary budget officer is already giving
00:57:47.940 warning bells. Carney wants to spend $700 billion more. He's made $700 billion in promises in the
00:57:54.780 last six months. Money we don't have. Money he's going to have to borrow and the Bank of Canada
00:57:59.680 increase the interest rate yesterday. It's just going in a bad direction. Tell you what, let's do
00:58:04.900 this next week. John, remind me, next week, no talking about Danielle Smith and the UCP. Let's
00:58:11.120 take a break from Danielle Smith and the UCP next week. Let's talk about something else and we'll go
00:58:15.880 from there okay got a couple of closing comments uh we're at the top of the hour um we're running
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00:59:04.940 whatever that turns out to be um okay thanks for calling in great show i think we're working out
00:59:10.040 the bugs i sorry for the lady who i couldn't hear uh john solved the problem i think the lower of
00:59:16.080 the volume in my earpiece the better and um i i guess we'll do this again next week same time
00:59:22.640 and uh wishing you guys a happy halloween and a great weekend and see you next week cheers folks
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