00:02:16.920And last night, it didn't matter what we tried to do
00:02:19.700in what direction we tried to steer the conversation,
00:02:22.560the only thing anybody wanted to talk about was Danielle Smith.
00:02:27.800But so we will talk about Danielle Smith and the results of,
00:02:31.980not the results of the referendum, but what's kind of been happening afterwards.
00:02:35.960But I'll just to tease you, to give you ideas of maybe things you can call me with.
00:02:42.680And the phone number is on the screen there, 479-9378, right?
00:02:46.400So things that are on my list this week is it's something just buzzed in my is that a call already, John?
00:02:54.300All right. Something's buzzing in there. I don't know if it's buzzing on the air.
00:02:58.760But so other topics on my list are definitely the B.C. election.
00:03:04.760I mean, that was on Saturday. Parliament is is going and, you know, there's some stuff happening there.
00:03:12.340There's the president of the EU coming to in Montreal right now, a bit of controversy with the new prime premier of Quebec and interest rates going up, the budget coming out here locally, the budget and the tax increases and stuff like that.
00:03:35.540So those are all on my list of things.
00:03:37.000But before I dive into it real quick, if you'll allow me just to share a proud moment in my life as a parent.
00:09:42.480And so the talk that's been going on that started with Danielle Smith.
00:09:48.980So some of the talk that started with Danielle Smith was in a press conference she gave after the referendum, but she also did a really, really interesting interview on the weekend on it came out on Sunday and it was with the CBC.
00:10:06.940I can't even remember. And I had a hard time finding this interview because I think, honestly, that in this interview, she was sort of addressing another audience.
00:10:19.600You know what I mean? Like when she was talking, like I honestly, when I'm looking at that interview and some of the things she says, and I'll come to that,
00:10:26.440it sounds like she didn't think that any of us would ever be watching that interview.
00:10:31.100And it almost sounds like she was addressing people in Ontario or Quebec or other parts of Canada, kind of letting them know what had happened in the referendum.
00:10:41.140And so I got to try and wrap this in a way here.
00:10:46.880But one of the things she said in her press conference, basically, and I'm paraphrasing, and there's arguments on the interpretation, but she basically said that the referendum, the independence question is settled.
00:11:01.620and that the independence question is settled
00:11:04.900and she doesn't want to do another referendum0.95
00:11:07.100as long as she's leader, as long as she's premier.
00:11:10.800And then she went a bit further and even said
00:11:13.180that if people are still independence-minded,
00:11:32.520OK, that is not like for me, there's three options going forward as a as a conservative in Alberta.
00:11:37.860One is just accept the status quo, accept the status quo as is and keep voting for the UCP and keep supporting Danielle in her attempts to get us a better deal, which for her means, you know, negotiating on immigration and other things.
00:11:59.100So that's the status quo, which won, technically won in the referendum.
00:12:04.520Barely won, by the way, barely won, because as we said, right, questions six, seven, eight and nine were rejected.
00:12:12.580So she didn't get so her status quo is kind of weak.
00:12:15.600So that's the first option. The second option is to leave the UCP and splinter and form a new party.
00:12:23.120And we've and like I said last week, we've talked about this.
00:12:25.780This is déjà vu all over. This is the wild rose. This is other attempts in the past. And I don't favor that. I think that would guarantee re-election of the NDP. And so then the option in the middle, the one I favor is a, I don't need to call it a reform of the UCP, but a continued evolution of the UCP, right?
00:13:44.060So I want to continue to evolve that party. And and I would hope that within the party that there would be an opportunity to continue to discuss the independence option and other options that I like I would never take anything off the table.
00:14:01.320And I don't think we can take anything off the table because, practically speaking, 50% of us in the party favor that option.
00:14:11.800So my next step in the coming months is to continue down that path of encouraging that discussion and hoping that Smith reverses some of her statements that she's made lately.
00:14:26.560I mean, she's gone as far as saying something like that that anybody who wants to be a voice for the party, whether it's as an MLA or as a director or on the board of the party, needs to sign off on on a guiding principle and distance themselves from independence.
00:14:47.520And I think that's wrong. All right. I got my first caller. Awesome. So before I finish on, I want to go to the caller right away.
00:14:54.580So as usual, folks, tell me where you're calling from, your name, please, and what's on your mind.
00:14:59.960And let's go from there. So go ahead, caller.
00:15:07.140Hey, so one thing that I observed with the B.C. election is that I don't know that Daniel Smith is necessarily the one who's bringing the UCP the victory.
00:15:18.720I mean, if you look at Lauren Dirksen, who the hell was this guy?
00:15:21.520He came out of nowhere. And basically people there were voting on the party. So I think that the UCP would have a much better chance for re-election next year if Daniel Smith were to step aside. Somebody else from the party who's neutral, didn't decide one way or another, won't comment on it, which is most of the party.
00:15:42.100then people are going to vote on the party next election what's going to happen now half people
00:15:49.160are going to stay home because daniel smith is the leader stay on the line chris so i was actually
00:15:54.680going to talk about that but i'm glad you brought it up right so um so in the bc election in your
00:16:02.080mind so you brought up a couple of things um there was definitely so the bc election proves
00:16:08.880that the leader is not necessarily as important as as we think it is is that is that kind of your
00:16:15.560thought exactly okay yeah so so in bc the leader is not as important so you're right right like who
00:16:22.980was lauren dirksen right i mean we'd never heard of the guy i know he was already uh whatever at
00:16:27.460mla but basically you're right we hadn't heard about him and and and then what in your mind
00:16:32.900what was the core of the what what were the voters thinking in bc like um were they were
00:16:39.540they just elect were they just voting against eb or were they you know what i mean like what what
00:16:44.660was their core um way of thinking when they were voting well yeah i think that they were they were
00:16:51.620trying to vote down the ndp and i mean even right now this is smith's big threat as well it's got
00:16:57.060to be near to the ndp and it's like well i don't know if you were to step aside i don't think the
00:17:58.480Okay. No, no, that's a valid point. I mean, I'm not there yet, but I might.
00:18:02.100And if she really cared about defeating the NDP in the next election, she would see the wisdom in that.
00:18:10.400And I mean, there's plenty of party members in the UCP who haven't declared one way or another, as the NDP is constantly reminding us.
00:18:19.320They're like, oh, you've got all these members and nobody said that they're loyal to Canada or that they're like nobody said one thing one way or the other.
00:18:27.540So there's a whole bunch of people who could step up and just, I'm neutral.
00:18:33.720Which is what Daniel Smith should have done in the first place.
00:18:57.540Yeah. Yeah. I just don't think Danielle Smith should put herself before the party. And thanks. Thanks again, Marty.
00:19:03.140Awesome. Cheers. OK, so, yeah, I mean, that ties in with where I was. Right. So I was just talking about me personally. I think Danielle should more or less retract some of the comments she made recently.
00:19:15.940And and then I think I think hopefully she can read the room and realize that that that she's got to embrace people like myself who who who don't entirely agree with her solution and want to keep pushing for independence.
00:19:33.940independence now um uh i gotta come well let's wave there let's go there real quick i mean
00:19:42.500the elections only the referendums 10 days ago and already we can see that we lost uh an
00:19:49.700opportunity of of getting like if she wants to negotiate with ottawa she needs leverage and i
00:19:55.940think by losing she lost some leverage and we already saw that this week we've seen it twice
00:20:00.760three times right so in the house of commons uh earlier this week the conservatives introduced
00:20:07.340a motion to try and repeal the tanker ban the west coast tanker ban and it was defeated
00:20:13.980like it was defeated so i mean that's that's like that's a we're dead in the water already on on
00:20:22.120on getting like a pipeline built and things like that because and and this is a simple like if the
00:20:28.020If the Liberals can't reverse something as simple as a tanker ban, how are they going to open the Constitution?
00:20:35.140I mean, that was crazy what happened this week.
00:20:39.360And then the other thing, and I don't want to dive into it just yet, but the other thing that's happening this week is Carney is going, went visiting, you know, he went to overseas and now he's invited the EU.
00:20:51.820He's invited, I can't remember, what's her name? Ursula von something.
00:20:56.060She's in Montreal, and he's still moving us
00:20:59.320and still trying to get us into the European Union.
00:21:50.080It's like one of the questions, another question that came out boldly in that interview, the interviewer asked her, like, you know, how are you going to, you know, make friends, make amends with the separatists?
00:22:04.620They're the ones who elected you. And then she does this, this weird Kamala Harris cackle. And then she answers. She's like, no, it's not separatists that got me elected.
00:22:16.180It's people that were against COVID and people that were against mandates and people that were against, you know, overreach and trampling of our rights and things like that.
00:22:26.660And as she's naming them off, I'm doing like a Venn diagram in my head and going, they all intersect with, you know, that people like me, again, who were against the vaccine mandates were the people who really value freedoms and are the people who don't like Ottawa.
00:22:43.480And so we're kind of one in the same. I mean, I think she was being very specific at the time. I get that at the time in 2023 when she was elected. Yes, we were kicking out, you know, we had just kicked out Kenny basically on on COVID and on on overreach.
00:23:03.420And so, sure, you could say that that's who elected her at the time, but it's the same group. It's the same base. So that statement was really interesting and I think damaging. And then, you know, there's there's a bit of damage. The damage continues. Right.
00:23:20.240So after that, two days ago, all of us who are members of the UCP got a letter from the president of the UCP, Rob Smith. And it's it's a short letter. But in the letter, he literally says it's settled. It's settled. I don't want to talk about this. It's settled. And sorry, Rob, but it's not settled. OK, it's not settled, especially not a 50 percent of a group are of an opinion.
00:23:48.280That's far from settled. And and that's not how our democracy works. And that's absolutely not how this party works. So this party, you know, the way this party works and most parties is the members of the party, all like 40,000 of us, we go to the AGM and at the AGM, we elect the leadership of the party.
00:24:13.700So we elect the board of directors and we elect a president. And then those guys, and then we elect people in charge of whatever fundraising and in charge of policies. And then what we do throughout the year is anybody who's a member is free to write up a proposal, a policy.
00:24:33.280You know, what could be a policy? I think that we should support our farmers' right to sell from their farm without having to go to a slaughterhouse.
00:24:47.340That's an example of a policy. Somebody can write that policy.
00:24:50.960So throughout the year, hundreds and hundreds of policies are written and proposed and sent to the board of the party.
00:25:00.840and those policies are written by individuals
00:25:56.460But they're also obligated to to try and move the policies forward, the policies put forth by the party and move them forward once they form government.
00:26:07.900So Smith can't just tell us it's on its resolved and I don't want to hear about it.
00:26:12.400That's the party's decision. And she definitely can't tell a board member, you need to meet these, you know, these these you need to have these values in order to be a candidate.
00:26:26.180No, that's up to us to decide. If Frank wants to show up and run for Calgary regional director, the representative, or if Larry wants to run as the VP of communications for the party, I can ask him questions on where he stands.
00:26:46.280But if I and if he tells me he's against independence, I might vote against him or for him.
00:26:52.280But I the membership chooses who we elect to be on the board.
00:26:56.780So, like, this is really, really interesting what's going on, which is why the topic was that we chose today is, is she trying to alienate her base?
00:27:06.300Because a lot of the things she's done in the last couple of days since, well, actually, it's gone on before that.
00:27:12.160I mean, I think she started alienating her base a year ago, more than that.0.76
00:27:18.680And she's continuing to alienate her base.
00:27:22.720And I think I'm going to leave it at that.
00:27:26.840I mean, I think that's where we're at right now.
00:27:30.100We got, well, I got one last bit, one last bit.
00:27:34.960Sorry, and good thing I took some notes.
00:27:42.160And she's alienating her base. And some days I wonder why. Is there another ulterior motive? Right. Is she compromised? Does she have her own agenda? Is she really naive? I don't know. Right. You asked me the question on what's going through Danielle Smith's mind. And my answer changes from week to week to week, depending on current events.
00:28:02.760But this week, there was an event that occurred again that I'm that I just shake my head.
00:28:08.380So she was up on stage. She did a brief press conference and and and and it's an announcement around COVID vaccines and the new, you know, it's a season.
00:28:19.620So there's a COVID. We're now at the point where COVID is treated like the flu.
00:28:23.840There's an annual flu and apparently there's an annual COVID.
00:28:27.020and don't get me started on the the science behind that that's not the point that i want to make
00:28:32.740today but she was on stage instead of just letting andrea lagrange or whoever's the health minister
00:28:38.460talk about this smith took an opportunity to go on stage and talk about this expanded
00:28:42.680covid vaccine program and how it's being extended to kids as young as six months old blah blah blah
00:28:49.160blah blah blah blah right well that's to me i'm like that's that's not reading the room we just
00:28:56.040had the allison inquiry not too long ago in ottawa where we had tons of people uh you know testify
00:29:01.920about vaccine injuries she commissioned a uh a study on this the davidson study which came out
00:29:09.540with recommendations and she didn't do anything of that and she admitted that the covid crowd
00:29:14.300that got rid of uh kenny and got her in the power but then she goes and does this on stage so i was
00:29:21.200like confused maybe you guys can tell me why you think she did that i got a caller go ahead what's
00:29:26.460on your mind hey mary it's bern can you hear me i can how are you i'm good thanks i'm in calgary
00:29:37.320and uh first of all i want to speak thanks for all the stuff that you're doing here trying to
00:29:42.060burn the light onto this i wanted to ask do you think or have you heard the term performative
00:29:48.220politics yes somewhat yeah so do you think that maybe most of the politicians that were
00:29:56.500with daniel smith they're more concerned about looking good than actually doing good because
00:30:02.660the thing is like i mean we already had a clear mandate about uh about equalization in the in the
00:30:08.880previous referendum and then we saw that premier kenny the former premier kenny he just sent a
00:30:16.100letter to the prime minister's office and to the premiers and when they said no we left it at that
00:30:20.420um you know i i think that a lot of people are maybe frustrated and uh i'm going to the to the
00:30:28.360agm next month and i paid my ten dollars you know and two hundred dollars per ticket i know there's
00:30:32.540lots of people that want to go and there's people that want to vote her out and they want to keep
00:30:35.740her in and the thing is i think that there's things that the premier could have done but chose
00:30:43.300not to but she didn't mean to go to a vote to go and say well let's start our pension plan for
00:30:49.300instance um so i guess the question i have is and i'd like to look at the last call we said about
00:30:56.500you know we could put a broomstick with the hat on and they might win and the example lauren
00:31:00.500dirksen winning is a good you know example of that so i don't think hopi and their fear
00:31:06.420is is or intimidation is the strategy that's going to carry us forward in the long term and i think
00:31:12.020the whole thing about that well we either have daniel smith or we have minchi maybe maybe there's
00:31:17.940somebody else you know coming up out of the ranks like i think a lot of people spoke really highly
00:31:21.860about keith wilson for example yeah like i i don't know but i guess what do you think you know how
00:31:28.660when is canada or when are canadian because i love canada but i don't like that we have you know
00:31:33.540all these epic violations with i mean it's through his office you know with brooke heels and you know
00:31:38.660maybe christian freeland isn't necessarily uh you know doing the ukraine for you know the goodness
00:31:43.620of her heart maybe you know there's a lot of questions but but you know when people are trying
00:31:48.260to you know be able to afford groceries or rent or they see you know that ramparts have gone up
00:31:52.740800 in the last year and we have a prime minister that's saying that we're living in the most
00:31:57.220affordable time ever it's like yeah you're you're breaking up a little bit so what was the question
00:32:02.100is somebody gonna wake me up yeah what was the question is performance politics yeah so when
00:32:07.540when are we going to or what do we need to see from daniel what do you think we need to see from0.94
00:32:12.980daniel smith actually believe that she's not in it for herself so that she's going to do something
00:32:18.180from her because i like that she lowered the threshold you know for the referendum but then
00:32:22.260she you know took aside and spent a whole bunch of money in campaigning against it so yeah i don't
00:32:26.580know what she stands for and i guess i'm asking what do you think she stands for okay um thanks
00:32:31.620Thanks for calling. I'll ask you to hang up so somebody else can call in.
00:32:49.560I mean, is it performative and whatever?
00:32:51.840I mean, politicians are politicians, right?
00:32:54.300Most of them get elected in some sort of, it's a popularity contest.
00:32:59.620They get elected. And then I swear to God, once they're elected, half their job becomes staying in power like that's that's always the case.
00:33:06.560I mean, I can step back and sort of say that perhaps there's two or three different kinds of politicians.
00:33:11.920Right. There's the there's the very well-intentioned, naive person who goes in, gets elected, thinks they're going to be a representative of the people and do do some good.
00:33:23.620And they come in and they realize how the machine works and they get they get completely discouraged and then they do one year and they leave.
00:33:30.960And I think this always happens to politicians when they come in, they get tested like all the other politicians are like, is he really one of us?
00:33:38.340Is he on the team? Can we bring him on board? Are his values or her values flexible and so forth?
00:33:44.520So there's a lot of people go in, get discouraged and they're out.
00:33:46.840then there's others who go in manage to work the system and uh and manage to do some good and stay
00:33:54.920in there and but those are rare and then there's the ones that go in well intention see how the
00:34:01.320system works realize that there's a lot of money to be made here and um and and and and the way
00:34:08.260they go they stay in power forever and ever and that's one of the reasons i'd like term limits
00:34:35.200But if you think about it, sure, you know, reverse these SOGI policies,
00:34:40.220policies, got the sort of politics out of the classroom. I mean, that one didn't work too well.
00:34:45.040Is it still to be determined? Now she's announced she's going to reduce DEI, eliminate DEI hiring0.93
00:34:51.100practices and a few things like that. But at the end of the day, AHS is still a mess. Budgets are
00:34:57.000still out of control and running high. And there's been no real wins with Ottawa. She'll say, well,
00:35:05.080I got Trudeau fired or I got Stephen Gilbeau fired.
00:35:09.260Gilbeau quit because he got pissed off at Kearney.
00:35:12.780Trudeau quit because, you know, he made his millions and he was done anyways.
00:35:17.940And so, and as far as like, you know, like the pipelines, no, we don't have pipelines.
00:35:24.280Anyway, so I'm rambling a little bit, but I think the AGM is going to be very interesting.
00:35:30.680And so what I think she needs to do, what I really think she needs to do,
00:35:33.400She needs to read the room. If she's genuine, if she's genuine and wants to do good and wants to keep the NDP out of power, then she will do the same kind of brainstorming we're doing here. And she will come up to there's only one conclusion. And the conclusion is she either has to embrace a bunch of independence minded people and find a way to bring us into the big tent and share in the conversation and share in the solution that she's proposing. And she's going to have to be flexible.
00:38:33.680We kind of know you because you like every day
00:38:36.720on the internet, we kind of already can pick up
00:38:39.280like how you guys think, what are your values?
00:38:42.720Like if like would mean like like yourself, like don't put yourself in line, like be direct to take over.
00:38:52.220Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this. Here's another here's another reality that's happened to politics.
00:38:58.400It's it's it's become an institution and a club that looks after itself purely.
00:39:05.160And so I guarantee you that if I tried to run tomorrow, if I announced my candidature to run a Danielle,
00:39:12.720smith would probably cancel it and and decline it not allow me to run but even if i ran the machine
00:39:18.880would literally the first step is to get is to be the candidate and the the party would work against
00:39:24.320me because i'm not an insider and i don't think like them and i'm a threat to them and so um the
00:39:30.720machine it the the the government exists and and it's so big that it protects itself is what it's
00:39:36.160doing i is is is one of my answers to that and i think we're and in fact we we're going to test
00:39:41.680that theory there is going to be an election and i know for a fact that there are a lot of people
00:39:47.920that are going to present themselves as candidates as a test to see if the party is willing to accept
00:39:53.840them so um i i don't have a better answer but uh but but thanks for calling cheers all right thank
00:40:01.600you yeah yeah um yeah great question i mean uh which uh we'll come back to that one
00:40:11.680so many things that we want to talk about today but i i wrote down flexible because i wanted to
00:40:16.240just add this little bit right um when when you listen to one of the things that i don't like
00:40:23.360about danielle smith is that when you listen to her talk in again i'm telling you you got to go
00:40:29.600look at this interview you got to go find this interview i'll after this show i'll find the link
00:40:33.480and i'll get john to add the link to the to the bottom here um you you gotta in this interview
00:40:40.520She talks and talks and talks. That's one of the things that Danielle has a similar flaw. I have the same flaw. I think out loud. It's not a flaw. I think out loud. Right. I think out loud. I was an engineer when I was an engineer and I would brainstorm. I think out loud. So, you know, if the problem was there's a tank that way over there and I can't reach it and I need to empty the tank, I might think out loud and I say, well, you know, we could shoot at it and put a hole in the tank or I can send a monkey and to climb the ladder and he can1.00
00:41:10.400open the valve whatever right so you know what i mean i'm i'm thinking out loud and when i'm
00:41:13.740thinking out loud you can hear sound bites from me and then you get a you get a view of how i'm
00:41:19.160thinking generally in life and and and and my philosophies because my sound bites will come
00:41:25.600out over and over and over and so and then when when danielle was doing this interview you hear
00:41:30.480the same sound bites over and over and over she can't help herself when she's talking and then
00:41:35.120she brings up things like you know she wants to increase immigration because she thinks that
00:41:40.120That's a way for the province to get more clout.
00:41:42.260And she wants to do this and she wants to do that.
00:41:44.520And so when she's left to talk, she brings up things that show who she truly is.
00:41:50.740And one of the things you realize is that she has an idea in her mind
00:41:54.580and she's playing a game and she's pretending to ask us what we want.
00:42:00.160But, you know, it's a win-win for her to give us a referendum, right?
00:42:05.220Do you guys want to do, you know, should I shrink inflation?
00:42:09.000and let's say she's already thinking she wants to shrink inflation should i shrink inflation if we
00:42:13.760say yes she goes bingo i'll do it and if we say no she'll like i was non-binding and uh i'm still
00:42:19.380gonna do it anyways right so she does that a lot and so keep that in mind when you watch her all
00:42:24.780right i got another call uh go ahead caller go ahead oh hello go ahead i i can hear you
00:42:38.340hi there i was actually just calling in to speak with marty am i speaking with marty
00:42:46.420john it's too i don't know if it's too loud i can i i
00:42:51.620you can hear okay try again what's on your mind
00:42:56.420all right so what i wanted to mention was that if we really want to focus on a better
00:43:02.420canada we have to stop expecting to do the same things and get the results so being motivated by
00:43:08.020fear is not the way that we're actually going to make any you're sorry you're gonna i can't hear
00:43:14.900at all like it's just it's just uh try again okay one more time is this better better way better
00:43:24.260there you go okay okay awesome yeah so actually what i wanted to mention was the way we're in
00:43:31.460see it if you have to look at a couple things just concretely what we've done before you haven't
00:43:36.420made the changes that you want to have happen being motivated by fear that energy is going to
00:43:41.540be coming into power is not our best foot forward planning based on a fear is never the best choice
00:43:48.420we have to look at the reality oh i'm sorry
00:43:52.180uh-oh she uh she was onto something good did i lose her or did we lose her her line double
00:44:02.200beeped uh i'm so sorry um well maybe she can call again is there another call right now john
00:44:07.280no um yeah i i i kind of think i know where she was going with this you know um i'm oh is she back
00:44:17.620new caller all right let's go with the new caller go ahead caller
00:44:20.560Hi, Marty. It's Ken Kong from Central Alberta.
00:44:27.300I just want to ask you, because of the federal election and now this referendum,
00:44:34.540how do you think conservative voters feel about their party and voting in general?
00:44:43.000The federal party? Like the federal conservatives?
00:44:46.000Well, the federal conservatives, yes. I have an idea on that.
00:44:50.560We can talk a little later, but just this referendum and how Daniel was treated, treated the issues and how do you think conservative voters will actually come out and vote in this upcoming provincial election?
00:45:09.040oh okay um well i think that's sort of the topic we're exploring today i if i if i had to guess
00:45:18.240today based on what i'm hearing today what i'm hearing today i would say um a few people she
00:45:27.460would lose the the the ucp would lose some votes i i think based on what i saw what's happening
00:45:33.040And currently, the UCP would lose some votes.
00:46:03.040A lot can change in the next year. And I think that's what we're exploring. I hope that in the next year, Danielle can see that there's a lot of wisdom in really embracing everybody with conservative values, regardless of how they feel about independence. Does that make sense?
00:46:19.240Yeah, it does. So here's another statement I have. Because there's a potential for a federal party for Alberta to form and make a push for federal politics, I think there's a big bridge there for that party to reach out to Albertans and say, support the UCP.
00:46:44.900But know that, you know, we're fighting for Alberta on the federal level,
00:46:51.460and we need provincial politics to align with that.
00:49:26.920So a year from now, a lot can happen in the next year.
00:49:29.480a lot can happen both here and in ottawa so um all right caller on the line uh let's keep taking
00:49:37.800calls go ahead caller where are you calling from what's on your mind hey marty it's dwight from
00:49:43.240calgary hey dwight how are you i'm doing okay i'm really getting pissed off with uh danielle smith0.95
00:49:50.760be honest with you every time she seems to i joined the ucp back in may when she totally blew the
00:50:01.480the referendum question and added her own question without telling the the courts to go
00:50:10.600you know pounce and suck it yeah yeah and uh you know that i decided dan i was going to get0.97
00:50:16.840into that AGM I bought my ticket I'm ready to you know vote her out and since then she has done0.99
00:50:25.840nothing but get worse and worse and worse and you know with uh you know this is my party you know0.99
00:50:33.640just like it's almost like power corrupts because now she thinks she's the party and um she couldn't
00:50:41.480be further from the truth she needs to be humbled a little bit because i think she thinks all of
00:50:47.680this is because of her and um you know like and with the covid thing i mean it just it just keeps
00:50:54.840getting worse like i we see i couldn't i wouldn't be surprised seeing her wear a liberal sign on
00:51:02.640her chest at the agm because it's just like i don't know what else could she do that could be
00:51:09.540worse than what she's done i i'm i'm with you um a couple of things um it's going to be just just
00:51:18.200to just to be clear there is no easy mechanism to quote unquote humble her at the agm right so
00:51:24.900the the the party rules are that there's a leadership review every three years so we had
00:51:30.280one in uh 2024 so there isn't one this year doesn't mean we won't find way i mean if she
00:51:36.400gets booed during her ex uh like she'll do a um you know um uh keynote speech and she'll speak at
00:51:43.160events and she'll she'll have an opportunity to hear us and so i think if we if we we'll have to
00:51:48.800send a message that way that said there's already five constituency associations that pass motions
00:51:53.980to try and ask for a a vote so we'll see what happens um yeah when when everybody was talking
00:52:01.500about these constituency offices, I looked up mine and they'd already voted in support of
00:52:09.160Danielle Smith. Like they're already one of those ones that have been taken over by the0.91
00:52:15.960Danielle crew. You're going to have an eye opener when you go to the AGM. Welcome, by the way. Thank
00:52:22.740you. Like I'm glad, you know, you're joining the movement and you're being engaged, which is
00:52:28.800awesome um you're gonna see the establishment and the other side and you're gonna see that even in
00:52:35.360a party like ours there is a strong strong establishment there's a machine that works
00:52:40.000that has more advantages than us that's for sure yeah yeah i i know that but i just i well i'm just
00:52:48.000getting so fed up with this bs that's it just was it's so frustrating but you're doing the right
00:52:55.040thing by the way you're doing the right thing right so um you're you're you're proving one
00:53:00.740of the points i told you the story or i told you guys the story a couple last week i think
00:53:04.920shane gets in just resigned right shane gets in just resigned and uh shane was a pretty popular
00:53:10.600mla and he's the one that i had a chat with at the agm that's the other beautiful thing about
00:53:14.800the agms these guys the the ucp mlas are generally very accessible they walk around the floor you can
00:53:20.900chat with him which is awesome and he's the one at the AGM two years ago that said to me like this
00:53:26.760is awesome look at this there's 6,000 people and I told him like Shane what are you proud of
00:53:30.660there's 6,000 people because we're pissed off and we're engaged and we're trying to steer you guys
00:53:35.640if you guys were doing a really really really good job we wouldn't be coming to the AGM so
00:53:40.640the fact you're confirming that right this you said this is your first AGM yeah yeah yeah awesome
00:53:47.680Awesome. Yeah, yeah. So don't be shy. If you see me at the AGM, find me. I think I'll be, I might either be there as media with the Western Standard, but I'm also going to be there as a participant. I mean, I bought my, I'm a member. I want to vote, right? I don't want to just be an observer. But if you see me, don't be shy. Say hi. And I encourage you, like, find those MLAs and chat with them. They're open. They're humans too, right? So find them and chat with them. Thanks for calling.
00:54:14.120all right thanks marty yeah yeah awesome um yeah the other thing i was going to say uh i'll give a
00:54:20.940quick i think it's uh uh i i don't even know who i wish i knew who now i'm i feel bad i'm telling
00:54:27.760you guys things but i don't have the links but somebody somebody online like one of the maybe
00:54:32.660it's one of the tpas maybe it's uh uh jason levine or somebody somebody's selling t-shirts
00:54:38.500for the AGM and that say I voted option two so that's a message right that's a cool message so
00:54:45.220if if like if a thousand people show up at the AGM with a t-shirt that says I voted option two
00:54:50.880that's a pretty strong message to Danielle that you can't ignore that when she's going to be
00:54:55.380giving her speeches so all right this might be the last call maybe it's the lady who called
00:54:59.320earlier go ahead call her what's on your mind and what's your name
00:55:01.860hello it's uh gordon here i'm marty um uh yeah if i'm the one you're looking for
00:55:12.920go ahead gordon what's on your mind i just want to make a statement i just want to say something
00:55:19.260about covid okay if let me allow here it's not a question i want to maybe take back when when we
00:55:25.620have to go get the covid shot when it was when they said it was mandatory now some people say
00:55:31.020it was never mandatory well if you were working it was now this is my point back in i found out
00:55:38.220i don't know how i found out about but it's something called the serology test you get a
00:55:42.540serology check you pay 50 out of your pocket they got back and he said i was negative that i was
00:55:48.540not a carrier and that i was my system was immune to it i did not get the shot i was working part
00:55:54.380time at the time okay i'm full you're tired now i ran to my client employer and i was one-on-one
00:56:01.100i told him this he said have you told anybody else this and i said no i kept it under my hat
00:56:07.340he said please keep it quiet because it said it'll cause chaos and i said okay i'll do it because in
00:56:13.340my book it's time people started doing finding stuff for themselves because if i told people
00:56:18.380that anyway they wouldn't believe me but you see that's all it took and did cost me money
00:56:23.660I never got a shot, and I'm never going to get a shot.
00:56:26.580Now, with COVID, again, the back knees up, they're saying it's not mandatory.
00:56:32.500But if it's mandatory, I still got my piece of paper, and I'm quite prepared to check myself again for $50.
00:56:46.260I mean, it was the biggest psychological operation in my lifetime,
00:56:52.220And the pressures to go get vaccinated were immense. Right. And so you didn't succumb. And that's awesome. I didn't succumb. And a lot of us, a lot of other people did not. So spread that word, man. Spread that gospel. I'm 100 percent with you on that one.
00:57:08.380I do. Every chance I get. Awesome. You too. Thanks. OK, well, OK, well, I guess I'm I better keep this sheet of paper because I really, really wanted to talk about the EU and Ursula von der Leyen.
00:57:22.220coming to Montreal and the snub that, uh, of, of, uh, PSPP, uh, Pierre, uh, or, or, uh,
00:57:30.720whatever. Anyways, um, we'll, we'll cover that next week. Uh, I never got to talk about the,
00:57:38.280the PBO, I guess next week, probably the big topic for us will be the budget, right? Carney's
00:57:42.640budget is coming out on November 5th and, uh, the parliamentary budget officer is already giving
00:57:47.940warning bells. Carney wants to spend $700 billion more. He's made $700 billion in promises in the
00:57:54.780last six months. Money we don't have. Money he's going to have to borrow and the Bank of Canada
00:57:59.680increase the interest rate yesterday. It's just going in a bad direction. Tell you what, let's do
00:58:04.900this next week. John, remind me, next week, no talking about Danielle Smith and the UCP. Let's
00:58:11.120take a break from Danielle Smith and the UCP next week. Let's talk about something else and we'll go
00:58:15.880from there okay got a couple of closing comments uh we're at the top of the hour um we're running
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00:59:10.040the bugs i sorry for the lady who i couldn't hear uh john solved the problem i think the lower of
00:59:16.080the volume in my earpiece the better and um i i guess we'll do this again next week same time
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