Western Standard - MARTY UP NORTH： Liberal majority and a stay on Alberta independence？

00:00:00.000 Welcome back, folks.

00:00:27.980 happy thursday april 16th you know not gonna lie almost was looking almost looking for an excuse

00:00:36.800 not to come in this afternoon john the producer texted me at home said you know if you want to

00:00:41.900 do the show from home we can do it from home which is awesome that we have that capability

00:00:47.300 and we will do shows from home but um you know and and the reason i was looking for an excuse

00:00:53.000 not to come in today is nobody's happy when you wake up in the morning and there's literally

00:00:57.580 a foot of snow like that's how I live northwest of Calgary out in the country and there was a full

00:01:03.140 foot of snow on the back deck it and I thought maybe that's just some drifting that had occurred

00:01:08.400 no look out front and there's snow everywhere so I had to go outside and plow my driveway

00:01:13.140 that took me about an hour I told John I'll make up my mind on whether I'm coming into the studio

00:01:18.900 or not after I plow my driveway but once I was done plowing my driveway I got another text from

00:01:25.020 somebody. And I had committed to meeting somebody here downtown to collect the petition signature.

00:01:30.040 So somebody reached out to me and I said, sure, I'll, I'll meet you at a, for a coffee after the

00:01:35.060 show. So here I am folks. And, and just speaking, you guys know I'm an engineer, right? And I'm,

00:01:41.040 I'm one of those guys who doesn't really like anecdotal evidence. So that's why I keep track

00:01:46.040 of a lot of things at home. You guys have seen, if you follow me on X, you've seen my, my plots

00:01:51.300 on signatures collected and other things one of the things i keep track of at home is how many

00:01:56.660 times i plow my driveway in a winter and uh today was the 15th time in the 2025 2026 uh winter

00:02:07.060 season that i plowed my driveway which ties my record so i've been tracking uh plowing driveways

00:02:13.460 at home for about 20 years now so this ties the record for the most number of times i've ever

00:02:18.980 plowed my driveway um so 15 times this year uh but it's not a record for the latest in the season

00:02:27.140 that i've ever plowed my driveway um today's the 16th about 2021 i had to plow the driveway on the

00:02:33.540 20th of april so hopefully this is the absolute last dump like we said last time a couple weeks

00:02:39.180 ago when we had a dump i think the city crews have absolutely given up on removing snow right

00:02:43.980 now the roads are in absolute terrible conditions uh feel sorry for anybody that's uh that's trying

00:02:50.320 to collect signatures canvassing today or people that are traveling to go to events it some days

00:02:55.220 it feels like uh somebody's conspiring against us but anyways i'm here uh i and and honestly i just

00:03:02.440 i love coming in here and um you know i'm becoming familiar with uh with with john the producer and

00:03:09.600 we're getting the show you know working out the bugs everything i feel comfortable this is about

00:03:14.140 the 11th show now and like i keep saying the show will be really really much better if you guys

00:03:20.160 aren't afraid to call in so you see the number down there join the conversation call us at the

00:03:24.960 uh four seven nine west i don't know what west uh spells out nine three seven eight and uh and

00:03:31.600 make make this show about you guys um so you saw that i don't know if it's on the on the thumbnail

00:03:38.480 or whatever but uh i you know i always ask john uh he's he's sort of in touch with what you guys

00:03:44.080 are interested in and i'm like what are we going to talk about today i kind of suspected we were

00:03:48.640 going to talk about the um by elections which is on the on the headline there and then uh we're

00:03:55.200 going to keep talking about um the independence uh petition and what happened on friday and then

00:04:03.120 of course i got my list of topics but like i said it's all about you so so let's start there lynn

00:04:08.080 let's start with uh let's start with the by-election um nothing surprised for me anyways

00:04:14.720 well no no sorry let me step back a little bit of a surprise i actually thought uh i knew i knew

00:04:22.300 carney and the liberals were going to win um you know the two writings in toronto uh bill blair's

00:04:28.360 old writing and christian freeland's old writing i had no no issues about that i i didn't think

00:04:32.900 that that would go any other way but liberal. I kind of was keeping my fingers crossed, hoping

00:04:38.100 that Terrebonne, which is a suburb of the island of Montreal, it's not on the island, it's just off

00:04:43.120 the island, just on the northeast side. I was kind of hoping that that one would go to the bloc.

00:04:49.040 The bloc had made a plea with conservative voters in that area not to split the vote and to sort of

00:04:54.040 give their votes to the bloc. And it started out as a tight race between the bloc and the liberals,

00:05:00.880 and it stayed tight all the way through the night.

00:05:03.360 And then at the end, so the Liberals won the three ridings,

00:05:07.140 securing Carney an official majority.

00:05:10.240 It was funny to watch the, you know,

00:05:13.160 CBC News on the night of the election,

00:05:15.140 Rosemary Barton and what's his name, Cochran,

00:05:19.200 David Cochran trying to say that, you know,

00:05:22.080 Carney had secured his majority through the by-elections

00:05:26.540 and that it had nothing to do with the floor crossings.

00:05:28.660 i mean i think that's uh that's something we can discuss but hey i already got a caller on the line

00:05:33.380 so as usual uh you know give me your name number or sorry name number and name where you're calling

00:05:39.060 from question comment whatever you want to talk about and sometimes i might ask you to hang up

00:05:44.340 sometimes i'll ask you to stay on the line and have a little chat if i'm asking you to hang up

00:05:47.940 it's simply because we we don't have a giant switchboard here so while i'm talking to you

00:05:52.020 the phone line's uh busy so go ahead what's your name please

00:05:54.740 oh this is reed hello yeah hello there this is reed hi reed and i'm calling actually i'm down

00:06:07.000 in utah right now but i'm from alberta of course awesome really all i was calling about yeah i was

00:06:13.020 just phoning to um find out like like um where's the best place or maybe you'll know like we're

00:06:22.480 to have to do some serious donating here to get advertising and when they do the advertising they're

00:06:28.560 gonna have to do it in increments so that they can truly explain to people the advantages of

00:06:35.200 being separate i don't think enough people understand the numbers and i think they need

00:06:40.400 to know the numbers yeah no you're uh stay on the line read for a couple of minutes but

00:06:46.400 you're 100 right um let me just explain a couple of things and you i'm sure you know this already

00:06:52.800 but you know the the proponent for the referendum was the alberta prosperity project so they spent

00:06:58.700 money educating people on the pros of being an independent alberta and then they they triggered

00:07:05.460 the referendum so and and then alberta like whether it's a political party whether it's a

00:07:11.460 private citizen the rules for campaigning and raising money are super strict right so uh alberta

00:07:18.000 prosperity had some money they did their job then they started the petition and during the petition

00:07:22.980 it's like we're in a different phase so during the petition uh alberta prosperity project couldn't be

00:07:28.540 the ones uh raising the money and collecting the signatures they had to create another group called

00:07:35.440 the stay free alberta and stay free alberta's got like five hundred thousand dollars in the bank or

00:07:40.340 maximum that they can spend and they're focused on actually collecting signatures right paying for

00:07:45.820 the papers and flags and holding events and stuff like that and and i agree with you that we're

00:07:52.560 going to need to spend money on advertising during the campaign and the campaign's going to start

00:07:57.760 like in probably june july once danielle smith officially sets the date for the referendum

00:08:04.060 And in that campaign phase, expect a whole bunch of third-party advertisers to appear, and they'll all start promoting and advertising and selling the whole concept.

00:08:18.400 Does that make sense, Reid?

00:08:20.660 Oh, totally does.

00:08:22.180 I was just hoping there was going to be something like that because there's so many people out there that are, you know, I don't know whether it's ignorance or they just,

00:08:31.420 a lot of them just won't take the time to really look at it and they they just come up with notes

00:08:36.780 and they just you know they won't look at the numbers but once they see the numbers i think

00:08:40.860 their their minds will start to change oh i i agree anybody who yeah i mean yeah the numbers

00:08:47.180 are convincing and vice versa i've never had anybody be able to convince me otherwise of

00:08:52.060 why we should stay now just on that topic um it's interesting because this week uh nenshi

00:08:59.020 and thomas lukasic right we all know thomas lukasic he had the the uh sort of stay yeah

00:09:04.300 stay petition they're kind of aligned now and now they formed their group called uh

00:09:10.140 oh god what's their oh i wrote it down here um for alberta for canada right and they're kind of in

00:09:16.060 my opinion they're kind of cheating they're using a loophole they're they're going ahead and they're

00:09:19.820 starting their advertising campaign but why can they do it they can do it because they're sort

00:09:23.980 of claiming to do it as the ndp party so a political party that already exists can spend

00:09:29.420 money you know they're not campaigning they're ruling or whatever you know what i mean they're

00:09:35.420 governing so um yeah no it's gonna be uh it's gonna be a really interesting and and same thing

00:09:42.620 you're just reminding me they're getting they're they're just getting off the ground and they're

00:09:47.100 already getting mainstream media attention right so the mainstream's advertising for them whereas

00:09:51.740 we're going to have to pay for it there's no way that uh that you know the national post and ctv

00:09:57.420 and global are going to give us air time so no appreciate the call hope the weather how's the

00:10:00.780 weather down in utah did you sign while you were down in utah because uh i think there were events

00:10:04.940 no actually actually no no i i no i i actually uh on my way down i read there was a fella just

00:10:12.460 on the side of the road there by taper and i was able to whip in and sign there awesome yeah

00:10:17.500 because that was uh something i noticed that i i've i've been a canvasser i've been sitting

00:10:21.420 on the side of the road myself uh for the better part of 40 50 days now and i noticed in the last

00:10:27.020 couple weeks a lot of returning snowbirds were coming to sign the petition which was very

00:10:30.620 encouraging yeah all right thanks for the call yeah yeah you betcha go ahead i mean i'm not

00:10:36.700 kicking you off like if you got something else you want oh no no i was just saying like like i

00:10:43.420 know the ndp you're just saying the ndp going with their advertising already and really we can use

00:10:50.780 the federal ndp and just run a little skit of their their little equity thing there and i said

00:10:58.620 is this what the country you want to be part of or do you want to be part of something a little

00:11:02.700 greater than that yeah i appreciate it might work yeah okay i'll let you go read but i'll finish

00:11:08.700 your thought on that uh thanks reed um just all right cheers um just speaking of the ndp that was

00:11:17.300 one of the sort of breaking stories yesterday one of those quiet stories right the ndp the federal

00:11:22.440 ndp right so the federal ndp after the last election only had seven seats and that's not

00:11:28.420 enough for official party status and official party status is important in the house of commons

00:11:33.280 because it means money from the government,

00:11:37.020 like the government sets aside money for parties.

00:11:41.020 I mean, parties raise their own money for campaigning and things like that.

00:11:43.820 But once they're in power or governing,

00:11:47.220 they're allowed some funding for their MPs,

00:11:49.880 for office spaces, for staff, for things like that, right?

00:11:53.780 And the NDP lost official party status,

00:11:56.720 so that takes away a lot of their funding and stuff like that.

00:11:59.240 Well, yesterday, I don't know, they felt bad for them.

00:12:02.420 So the Liberals, the Bloc, and the Conservative agreed to take some of the money that was set aside and give it to the NDP. So the NDP gets $670,000 of assistance to help them in their role as MPs, which I'm fine with that.

00:12:21.840 I mean, you know, but at the end of the day, it does show that the NDP are not really a serious party anymore.

00:12:28.320 They've gone bankrupt. Basically, they borrowed so much money to run their campaign.

00:12:33.920 And now you got Avi Lewis, who's trying to convince us that he's the man, you know, he I mean, if you're a leader of a federal party, your ultimate goal is to be the prime minister of the country.

00:12:45.220 So Avi will never be the prime minister of this country, but it's one of his goals.

00:12:49.660 And he said, you know, if he ever was, he would propose government mandated grocery stores and things like that.

00:12:55.560 So a party that can't run its own finances wants to run the finances of the country.

00:13:00.120 I don't think so. Go ahead on the line. Where are you calling from? Name, please.

00:13:07.960 Hello? Hello. Go ahead.

00:13:11.420 Hi, it's Dave. I'm just wondering what you're thinking about Carney's comment.

00:13:17.240 he's going to bring in the emergency act if alberta separates all right um thanks for that

00:13:25.540 you guys are reading my mind i mean that's something i wanted to talk about and i haven't

00:13:30.080 even gotten gotten to that i'm going to hold off on that dave i got some thoughts on that but i

00:13:34.960 will i will i will mention i will talk about a little bit later in the show when i talk about

00:13:39.660 the um the stay that occurred which will be sort of topic number two so appreciate that question

00:13:44.720 dave okay thanks yeah yeah thanks um yeah you know i'm still trying to get a so let's get through

00:13:51.840 okay let's obviously you guys want to talk about independence more than what's going on with the

00:13:55.600 liberals but so the liberals got their majority um yay hooray and then uh the one thing that that i

00:14:02.800 did find fascinating though and i want to talk about this a little bit you remember last week

00:14:07.760 when we were talking about uh uh maryland gladu crossing the floor and i found it unusual

00:14:14.640 that maryland that carney would take a floor crosser last week because i knew that this week

00:14:20.560 was the by-election right so i thought why would he take a floor crosser and risk upsetting canadians

00:14:28.000 when he knew he had a majority just around the corner well when i saw what happened this weekend 0.62

00:14:33.840 And now I think it makes sense. Right. So this weekend, the liberals, just in advance of those by elections, had their big campaign, their big annual general meeting in Montreal, their big love and get together where they talk about policies.

00:14:46.460 and and one of the things they did there is they brought out marilyn gladue and they put her

00:14:53.800 through what in politics we call the humiliation ritual right so when you cross the floor like that

00:15:01.220 you kind of have to bow to the new leader and be humiliated a little bit and and and and we saw

00:15:09.300 that happening in an at a level that i hadn't seen in a long time maybe you guys didn't watch the

00:15:14.520 can't the the the the AGM in Montreal but watch it now with that with that in mind right watch how

00:15:22.100 Carney paraded her through the to the meeting made her sort of criticize the conservative party

00:15:29.860 made her uh comment and abandon her views from the past made her you know almost swear a new

00:15:37.840 allegiance I mean it's a very uh it's a very uh yeah there's a picture of her it's a very

00:15:42.560 communist thing fascist thing to do right to and and also it serves as a purpose to uh to to get

00:15:52.160 to get full loyalty from her towards carney but it's also a message to the voters it's really

00:15:59.420 like i really it's really nefarious and sick when you think about it right so yeah i was wondering

00:16:04.740 why why she accepted to cross the floor when she did i'm sure she accepted a long time ago but

00:16:10.740 They decided to pull the plug and or pull the whatever the and make it happen just before the by-election, just before the campaign.

00:16:19.100 And and I think that's part of it. Right. That's part of the reason they wanted to use her during the convention.

00:16:25.220 Now, speaking of the convention, I don't know if you get to conventions.

00:16:29.560 I mean, I've gone to AGMs here for the Conservative Party and the UCP, and they're an opportunity for the membership to try and push policies onto the leadership.

00:16:40.740 And two, I just want to talk about two policies in particular that caught my eye that the liberals tried to pass or passed that then, you know, hopefully they're hoping they become long term policies.

00:16:53.740 The first one was they they passed on the floor in motion calling for censorship or not censorship, outright banning social media for kids under the age of 16.

00:17:04.720 okay and and that sounds sort of innocent enough right a lot if you talk to a lot of people go

00:17:11.320 like should kids have uh access to social media until they're 16 some parents might just quickly

00:17:16.800 naively say sure i agree with that right but be careful with these kinds of policies because when

00:17:23.420 you read into the details of the policy it's kind of just a setup for more long-term uh censorship

00:17:31.240 and control right by by because when you look in that policy they also said we should form a

00:17:37.140 governing body that makes sure that uh um you know to monitor the platforms you know like and

00:17:44.800 there's already governing bodies like the crtc and stuff like that but so now the liberal solution

00:17:48.940 to everything right is more censorship hide your censorship as protecting kids at now and then use

00:17:55.120 the skies of protecting kids as an opportunity to have another governing body to monitor us

00:18:03.220 and then also use it as an excuse to work with social media companies to figure out how to

00:18:10.260 prevent certain groups from having access. You know what I mean? Like it sounds all good

00:18:15.300 and well-intentioned until you start thinking about it and then you realize the can of worms

00:18:19.360 it opens up. Now, one thing I found really interesting is that they said it as 16, right?

00:18:23.920 And I thought, OK, maybe they could set it as, say, 12 years old or younger or 13 or 14, but they went all the way up to 16.

00:18:30.900 I mean, 16. And the reason I found that number interesting is because there's a lot of people among the liberals who would have the voting age drop to 16, 15 or even 14.

00:18:42.480 I mean, 14 has been bounced around as a voting age.

00:18:45.100 So then I found this interesting because they're kind of restricting themselves down the road if they want to change voting age.

00:18:52.900 because on the one hand you're saying well kids 16 and under are too young to be on social media

00:18:57.560 well then i would argue then they're probably too young to vote right so um they they created an

00:19:02.660 interesting uh problem with that one the other interest the other thing that came out of the

00:19:07.640 montreal gathering wasn't necessarily a policy but it was um it was the speech that they that

00:19:15.880 they brought in an ex uh google guy a guy who had left canada went to work in the u.s made a fortune

00:19:22.860 working for google maybe you can find that clip john i don't know if we want to play the clip

00:19:27.340 but maybe find the guy uh sitting on stage from google uh anyways he he made this same thing he

00:19:34.860 made this bizarre plea right he's saying his his his comment was that there's a brain drain going

00:19:43.100 on in canada which i completely agree like we we are losing last last known year with formal data

00:19:50.220 was uh 2023 and something like 100 000 canadians emigrated left canada like citizen not not not

00:19:59.660 temporary foreign workers going back home but full-blown born in canada citizens educated here

00:20:05.500 have left the country and so there was there's like about 100 000 every year yeah that's the

00:20:11.160 gentleman so about 100 000 canadians are leaving every year and they're usually 60 of those canadians

00:20:16.860 leaving are between the ages of 22 and 40, right? So that's like the, that's what they call the

00:20:22.420 brain drain. The brain drain is real. We are losing talent. They're going to the US, they're

00:20:27.400 going to Australia, UK, France, and places like that. So the Liberals bring out this guy on stage

00:20:33.560 and this guy's solution to that problem, you know, what's the solution? How do you keep people,

00:20:39.500 how do you keep people here? Well, you should make it attractive to want to be here. You should make

00:20:44.680 it you know a good tax regime you should make it affordable you should have good jobs we should 0.55

00:20:51.160 promote we should do something that would want to make people to stay here but people want to leave

00:20:56.040 so this guy comes on stage and he starts proposing that we charge people who want to leave the

00:21:00.560 country 500 000 bucks and he went through this weird justification of well you know canada has

00:21:08.060 invested money in their education and then and and in them as a resource and we can't just let

00:21:14.980 that resource leave the country without some sort of compensation for the money we invested in a

00:21:20.740 canadian can you see where this could potentially go somewhere really really south like what if we

00:21:27.020 all start talking that way right well well i mean i didn't even pay for somebody i paid for i don't

00:21:32.480 have kids and i paid for somebody else's kids to be educated do i get extra compensation or i

00:21:37.960 paid for my kids and my kids stayed here but your kids left so should i get compensation you know

00:21:43.480 where where this is going so and this is again a symptom of the liberals right they are addicted

00:21:49.500 to spending and they don't have uh and they've created a giant mess and things are spiraling

00:21:56.260 the economy is getting worse and that's their solution right is find more ways to tax us and

00:22:01.940 and and so forth so i found i found that whole bit about the um the the the agm in winnipeg

00:22:09.780 quite interesting and uh so back to the question then so what's so now carney has a majority

00:22:16.740 um nothing's been leaked out i don't know what he's going to do with his majority but i'm pretty

00:22:21.620 certain that there's going to be some crazy new laws coming down the pipe in the next couple of

00:22:27.620 months. We'll see what happens. He did do one sort of good announcement. I mean, he stole another

00:22:34.420 idea from Pierre Poilievre this week. Immediately after winning his majority, he announced that he

00:22:39.540 was going to take off the Canadian, the federal component on gasoline and diesel and jet fuel

00:22:46.400 taxes. So we're going to get about a 10 cent discount there. But trust me, they're going to

00:22:52.120 find another way to make that up. It's not like they're cutting back the taxes overall. I'm still

00:22:58.460 quite frustrated that Danielle Smith won't do the same thing here in Alberta and take away the 14 1.00

00:23:05.340 cents on the tax. But also, I mean, the conflict in the Gulf of Hormuz there between Iran, the U.S.

00:23:14.320 and Israel seems to be resolving itself. So maybe things will get back to normal pretty quickly. 0.95

00:23:20.240 hey i mean give me a buzz or uh give me a comment here what do you think of the um of the liberals

00:23:29.260 getting their majority is it something that was predicted are you worried about it or or not uh

00:23:35.220 don't be shy give us a call all right well let's i guess we'll move on then to um actually let me

00:23:41.540 take a sip of my coffee i'm hopefully you guys are sitting actually i was expecting more calls

00:23:46.920 today it's a snow day right you guys that was your excuse a couple of weeks ago people told me

00:23:51.920 well the show is right after lunch and we're all busy working which i get that right albertans are

00:23:56.080 busy busy working but it's a snow day today don't don't don't lie to me i know a bunch of you are

00:24:01.160 sitting at home working today you didn't i mean even here in the office uh i'd say uh about half

00:24:07.500 the people as usual so and and you know what i i advocate that i i do say that right it's not worth

00:24:15.120 like, it's not worth getting on the road when the roads are really bad. It's certainly not worth

00:24:19.000 getting on the road. If it's going to take you two hours to get in, then you work four hours,

00:24:22.400 and then two hours to go home, that's not productive. So, you know, stay, stay home on

00:24:27.080 a day like this. But all right, so let's jump into the big topic that apparently you guys want

00:24:33.180 to talk about, which is, and it's an elephant in the room, I'll give my personal side about this,

00:24:39.480 the injunction right and the results of the injunction so last week uh so uh several first

00:24:47.280 nations got together and filed an injunction with the court um and try to get the um petition

00:24:58.220 stayed or stopped or cancelled altogether and the hearing for that was in edmonton last week

00:25:07.380 okay just before i get into it i got a call so i keep going no i'll take the call i'll take the

00:25:12.880 call all right because i played for you guys and you're answering my call so go ahead name and

00:25:17.420 where are you calling from please marty donald smith here calling from vancouver communist british

00:25:24.840 columbia i'm very very scared of with the liberals basically uh getting the majority of government

00:25:30.960 where they're going to start passing these censor laws now

00:25:35.660 where basically you see something the wrong way,

00:25:37.880 like man in the dress or insult somebody, whatever.

00:25:41.040 They're going to come kick in your door.

00:25:42.580 They're going to do stuff to you.

00:25:44.400 And it's just very scary how the country's been run.

00:25:46.860 Now with the Liberals, they want to close your guns away.

00:25:51.480 And it's just basically that is a very scary thing too.

00:25:54.420 I know Alberta has guns and all that stuff,

00:25:56.640 but I don't know what to say anymore.

00:26:00.480 Do we have rights in this country?

00:26:02.340 Are we turning into the new terror now? 0.72

00:26:04.340 Or, like, when are Canadians going to rise up in this country,

00:26:07.840 what they're doing in Ireland and other places?

00:26:09.920 Are Canadians just going to, I don't know what to say,

00:26:12.920 are we going to have another freedom convoy

00:26:14.480 or are we just going to let the world roll on us?

00:26:17.940 Yeah, well, it sounds like you're waking up, which is awesome.

00:26:21.940 Thanks.

00:26:22.520 No, I mean, we're on the same page.

00:26:26.580 Canadians are not waking up and we are losing some very basic democratic rights and we continue to

00:26:32.960 allow it to happen which I think is why here in Alberta there's there's this really this real

00:26:38.440 growing separatist movement independence movement because we've tried and tried and tried all these

00:26:45.800 other means and they don't seem to work um I mean that's that's that's the best I can come up with

00:26:51.780 that one you know otherwise people say is we got to keep hitting rock bottom and there's tons of

00:26:56.580 evidence that we're keep going down and i'm i'm curious where that rock bottom is well let's talk

00:27:03.740 about grocery prices let's talk about the grocery prices going up inflation people who are trying

00:27:08.860 to survive trying to people who are on disability like me i'm on disability myself look i'm not a

00:27:13.940 lazy person i'm capable to work because but the mental health issues is a big problem for me and

00:27:19.060 challenge um people say um albert when you say alberta are separating people are here in british

00:27:25.940 colombia are calling us racist um a whole bunch of things um it's like you know what look to quebec

00:27:32.820 they'll try to do a referendum and separation all that stuff but yeah i think alberta should

00:27:37.700 separate and basically have their own province and all that i will be back that referendum and

00:27:44.980 i would love to come there and to assign it but i can't i'm an independent journalist i can't

00:27:50.340 pick and choose but our country needs to be served people like i'm going to say this canadians are

00:27:56.580 are need to uprise like who cares what the what happened to the freedom convoy who cares

00:28:02.260 people just need to stand up look in the uk they're standing up looking in ireland they're

00:28:06.820 standing up people are standing up everywhere people are sick of it but here in canada we're

00:28:10.660 We're just a bunch of babies and all that.

00:28:13.520 I'm just saying in general and all that.

00:28:16.420 No, I appreciate the call and I'll stay on the line and I'll sort of correct what I said, right?

00:28:22.820 I haven't given up completely, right?

00:28:24.700 I mean, I know that a lot of people describe what's happening in our country.

00:28:31.320 It's predictable, right?

00:28:32.160 It's predictable.

00:28:33.060 Countries have a nice rise and then eventually start going down, right?

00:28:37.220 The rise and fall of empires is common.

00:28:39.660 And then there's, and, and I think it's happening in our country and maybe it's inevitable, but you and I, at the end of the day are not completely losing faith.

00:28:48.380 And we keep educating people.

00:28:50.080 I'm, you know, I haven't given up.

00:28:52.700 If I had completely given up, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be here doing the show today.

00:28:56.480 I wouldn't be sitting on the side of the road canvassing.

00:28:59.080 I would have gone and left.

00:29:00.240 So I'm still doing this because, because of you.

00:29:03.020 And because if we can wake up a couple of people, then, then so be it.

00:29:08.040 Right.

00:29:08.200 And there's some experts who say that we only need, like, as long as 3% or 4% of us keep working and trying to get the truth out, we will succeed at waking up people.

00:29:18.740 So, yeah, I just got to correct myself.

00:29:21.340 I haven't completely given up, but, boy, there are days where I think, yeah, we're doomed, right?

00:29:24.680 I mean, I'm amazed at my fellow Canadians' threshold for pain, right?

00:29:30.080 You're describing it.

00:29:31.040 Like, I thought, okay, you know, you got to cancel your trip to Cuba because the price of gasoline is high.

00:29:37.320 maybe that'll hurt a few people and get them to vote differently nope that didn't work

00:29:41.040 maybe when butter hits 12 a pound that'll get them to change their mind nope

00:29:45.140 maybe you know what i mean like i i don't know where that bottom is we have a big threshold for

00:29:50.440 pain well i mean well well we do have that big threshold for pain look at the gas right look at

00:29:57.020 the gas prices here in british columbia they're through the roof here they're like like um two

00:30:02.180 dollars and 10 cents a liter and all that and and um they're they're trying to like i'm hearing

00:30:08.320 from the grapevine too they're trying to do a climate lockdown like an energy lockdown and

00:30:13.240 make us uh uh go on how do i say it because that took boxes and all that stuff yeah it's an energy

00:30:20.720 lockdown and all that no due to the prime minister little liberal goons who cross the floor and all

00:30:26.660 that stuff which is not crap if you want to basically hit cross before call an election

00:30:31.740 and call a by-election instead of being offered and drived.

00:30:35.880 But the politicians out there say, oh, we need to do this to the planet.

00:30:39.740 Well, maybe they should get a gun on their horse or their electric bike or their car

00:30:45.440 instead of taking their gas guns and getting moved and just walk to work like everybody else

00:30:50.640 instead of, oh, I'm trying to close the planet.

00:30:52.580 I'm trying to do that.

00:30:53.980 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:54.720 Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you.

00:30:57.580 And speaking of, I think we're good there.

00:31:00.580 we're we're immune from some of this in terms of the shortage of gasoline and whatnot but boy

00:31:05.680 uh i saw a story this morning i think europe has got only enough more jet fuel for about six weeks

00:31:12.280 if things don't resolve quickly in the gulf uh you know flights between our two continents are

00:31:18.280 going to come to a grinding halt there's already uh shortages in cuba and places like that right

00:31:23.980 like air canada is not flying to cuba because there's no guarantee they'll bring the planes

00:31:27.460 back so we're kind of immune from oh there's no gas in cuba right now yeah okay yeah yeah there's

00:31:33.060 no gas in cuba at all yeah and then and then australia is about to go gas at all and go ahead

00:31:41.220 but i'm gonna stay here quickly too what happens we have a gas shortage what are canadians going

00:31:45.780 to do are they just going to be like the same same thing just basically be the flavor just basically

00:31:51.460 uprising all that like this country like we're approaching the agenda 2020 the agenda 2030 very

00:31:58.660 soon and Canadians need to uprise like living in a police state where liberals want to stand for you

00:32:04.580 say if you want to insult a man in the dress or say something the wrong way about the um you know 0.93

00:32:10.660 what I'm talking about I'm not going to get into it yeah no they will they will throw your they 0.96

00:32:15.340 will throw you in jail for speaking out about the LGBTQ and the um pedophilia what's going on in 1.00

00:32:21.320 there which is disgusting oh look i got friends who were lgbtq they're just looking tired of the 1.00

00:32:25.860 crap who are being rammed down kids throats look i went to jail because they exposed the stuff 0.99

00:32:31.360 and it's garbage yeah yeah cool no i appreciate that and and i'll bring it back to i'll bring it 0.99

00:32:37.120 back to a little bit of positivity right um you know you you mentioned the trucking convoy we

00:32:43.340 were hitting to a pretty dark time and all of a sudden the truckers came out of nowhere and saved

00:32:48.180 us and so and then the truckers rubbed off on other people right so you saw what's happening 0.52

00:32:52.440 in Ireland I'd say the Irish got a nice little victory right I mean they they protested the

00:32:57.100 government came down hard on them but at the same time they got their their break on their fuel

00:33:00.940 um and I think I think at the right time I'm hopeful that Canadians will do the same thing

00:33:06.840 again right I mean we're a little shy right now because we saw what happens right when you go

00:33:10.580 against the government like the ostriches and other things the government still um throws a lot

00:33:15.860 of weighed a lot of force at us but um you know i i i sense that our governments right now are a

00:33:22.900 little bit less aggressive than they used to be so there there is some hope right do you agree like

00:33:28.020 do you see that kind of pull back from the government carney yeah yeah i i yeah i do agree

00:33:35.300 and as a person who as from alberta is living in british columbia it's a communist soda it's a

00:33:41.140 communist country it's communist province out here they basically want socialist programs they

00:33:46.400 basically want you to um um uh how do i say it like david luby there's like um we're like

00:33:54.440 david luby i've met him so many times you know who i am he's a socialist he's a communist and

00:34:01.180 he sends a game chief of goons and all that stuff to hurt people and do stuff to people like are

00:34:06.240 People need to start uprising, like these pro-Palestinian marches in Alberta and other places, they need to come to an end.

00:34:13.060 When is that going to come to an end?

00:34:15.360 Yeah, again, they're starting to come to an end, right?

00:34:19.980 We've seen a lot of towns in the last little while, past bylaws, no more pride sidewalks, stuff like that.

00:34:27.640 Oh, good, I support that.

00:34:29.200 Yeah, there was an event this weekend, right?

00:34:31.080 Maybe John can find that clip while we're talking about this.

00:34:34.120 There was that lady at a press conference who added like four letters to the LGBTQ acronym, right?

00:34:41.420 So now she was the MWI. 0.99

00:34:45.320 But look at the mocking she got out of that, right?

00:34:47.600 Which is, again, mocking is a sort of sense of waking up.

00:34:51.420 I'm happy that at least she's being mocked because there was a time where we wouldn't even dare mock the Pride sidewalk.

00:35:00.100 So, yeah, thanks for the call, David.

00:35:02.180 That is my...

00:35:04.120 It's Donald, by the way.

00:35:06.140 Oh, Donald, sorry.

00:35:06.700 You know, that is my Wi-Fi password.

00:35:08.780 It is my Wi-Fi password, by the way, too, that M-whatever, BBGGG.

00:35:13.600 And I like to say people in Alberta and all that stuff, keep fighting, keep doing what you're doing.

00:35:18.560 I'm in Alberta, and I came back here to be here to deal with stuff.

00:35:21.440 I'm in a big fight myself, dealing with the so-called communist court here.

00:35:27.220 If you say something the wrong way, they'll come after you.

00:35:30.120 If you say man in the dress the wrong way, they'll come after you.

00:35:32.720 but I feel bad for the show out there here in Vancouver.

00:35:37.520 It's cold, but I'm not far from the places where it smells like meth

00:35:40.980 and disgusting stuff, and people really need help, man.

00:35:44.380 I've seen a lot of people die already.

00:35:46.260 Awesome.

00:35:46.700 I got to go.

00:35:47.360 Not awesome that they're dying, but awesome.

00:35:49.040 Thanks for calling in, Donald.

00:35:50.540 I appreciate the call.

00:35:51.860 You too.

00:35:52.660 Bye-bye.

00:35:54.240 John, do you have that clip, or can we play that clip?

00:35:57.420 Maybe we shouldn't.

00:35:58.300 I don't know.

00:35:58.740 I don't want to get us in trouble.

00:36:00.080 Don't worry about the clip.

00:36:01.020 But you've all seen the clip, right, where she, the lady said it without blinking an eye now.

00:36:07.540 Like the acronym is like, I don't know, like 12 letters long, right?

00:36:10.900 This one here, the, can we play it, John?

00:36:13.100 It's about nine seconds long.

00:36:16.900 Don't play it.

00:36:17.660 But that's the acronym right there, right?

00:36:19.400 I challenge anybody watching, looking at that on screen.

00:36:22.400 M-M-I-W-G-2-S-L-G-B-T-Q-Q-I-A plus.

00:36:30.220 Oh, boy.

00:36:31.020 yeah actually i know on the pipeline they discussed about this a little bit the other day

00:36:36.580 um that that was funny okay cool hey i love the way the show is going today i mean i'm i uh this

00:36:43.860 is what i want on the show right i i have a lot of topics i can talk but i want you guys to call in

00:36:49.580 and uh and and let's have a discussion so let me try and get back to the um so the the the

00:36:57.360 The injunction hearing started on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday was basically the opponent starts in court. And then then the next two days is the proponent. So in this case, Mitch Sylvester represented by basically Jeff Brath and Eva Chipyuk. Maybe we'll have him on the show in the near future.

00:37:20.620 and Jeff gave the judge a lot to think about right basically what his role is is is countering the

00:37:29.560 other arguments and then providing a whole bunch of legal documents and stuff like that for the

00:37:34.160 judge to go look at so Jeff did a good job making sure that the judge couldn't just rule on this

00:37:39.800 like on the spot well what was surprising maybe maybe surprising maybe to me but maybe not to

00:37:46.020 others i was sitting on the side of the road i was still collecting signatures on uh friday morning

00:37:51.800 and then i heard about it through the grapevine that a partial ruling had come out and and what

00:37:57.420 the ruling was is that the judge decided to uh stay temporarily prevent there you see it on the

00:38:05.320 screen temporarily prevent independence petition from certification he stayed staying something

00:38:10.600 means he stopped but he didn't stop the whole petition so the judge said you me marty you can

00:38:16.360 keep collecting signatures larry bob everybody you guys can all keep collecting signatures

00:38:21.160 but what the judge said is that uh elections alberta cannot certify the signatures in other

00:38:27.240 words they can't count the signatures and do the quality control and then and then and then report

00:38:32.840 back to um to the minister of justice until the judge finalizes his ruling so and now luckily the

00:38:46.100 judge said uh this day is only good for 30 days so in other words we can continue collecting

00:38:53.280 signatures until may 2nd the stay will go on until about i don't know may 7th or 8th or 9th

00:39:00.540 And by then, either the judge has to make a ruling or he can extend, she, it's a she by the way, she can extend the stay and delay the counting a little bit longer.

00:39:13.540 And that upset me. When I heard that, that upset me. And I know I posted a video where I ranted about that and I said some words that perhaps I should have chosen different words.

00:39:25.020 I was a little bit hot under the collar on Friday, and my bad, but at the end of the day, I'm still, the reason I was hot under the collar still stands.

00:39:39.500 I'm extremely frustrated in this country.

00:39:42.860 I've expressed this on a personal level for the last decade on all the projects I've worked on.

00:39:48.340 everything that i'm working on is always subject to veto these secret magical vetoes by first

00:39:55.680 nations who seem to have the ability to just about block anything we're trying to work on

00:40:00.260 and it's frustrating and and then when we invite them at the table to come collaborate with us

00:40:06.500 they flat out reject us right there was that i get i can i know for a fact that there was

00:40:12.280 a lot of effort by by mitch sylvester and others to engage these uh chiefs who were doing this

00:40:21.020 injunction to see if there could be some resolution beforehand and there's no dialogue

00:40:25.560 so i was on the side of the road and i got frustrated bad choice of words it is what it is

00:40:31.880 um but but then so thinking about this stay am i nervous about it yes and no um

00:40:40.360 So as it stands, we were going to collect signatures until May 2nd. Then the chief elector had to certify the signatures and then return a report to the Minister of Justice, Mickey Amory.

00:40:58.540 And then they were going to have to table a little committee and then study the request of the petition and then perhaps declare, agree with the petition and launch a referendum.

00:41:08.840 Now there's a summer recess coming up and stuff like that. And the referendums already be announced as will happen around October 19th if there's a referendum. So if I work back from October 19th, as long as Danielle Smith declares the referendum on, let's say, July 19th, July, August, September, October, three months of campaigning, I'm OK with that. Right.

00:41:29.140 So that was the timeline. My fear now, so we're okay. In terms of the timeline, we're all good. Unless, of course, the judge grants the complete injunction and this whole petition is out the door. But with the current timeline, I'm okay with it. There is time for the judge to render a judgment.

00:41:48.580 I am afraid, though, that the judge could sort of kick this down the road, kick it down the road, kicking down the road, extend the stay, extend it, extend it, extend it.

00:41:58.920 And the next thing you know, we're in September and Elections Alberta hasn't counted the signatures and the referendum is slipping away from us.

00:42:05.160 And now we're into 2027 and there's an election next year. So I'm so it's a setback.

00:42:11.140 It upset me. I'm back. I'm calm from it back. I didn't give up.

00:42:16.200 i mean i was on the side of the road on monday tuesday collecting signatures uh why was i not

00:42:21.240 there yesterday i i wasn't there yesterday i'm not there today and i'll be back there tomorrow

00:42:26.200 um all right caller on the line please where are you calling from and name

00:42:31.800 uh yes hello marty i'm calling from outside the vernon area uh canadian spider-man but even

00:42:38.040 on me, Steve. Yeah, yeah. Cool, Steve. How's it going?

00:42:41.660 And wonderful. And I'm thinking that

00:42:46.200 a new Alberta will have the opportunity to

00:42:50.120 put in a lot of laws that

00:42:54.140 will prevent floor crossings. I mean, we're witnessing a whole lot of flaws in the

00:42:58.060 Canadian system that I think a new Alberta will have

00:43:02.000 an excellent chance to address and rectify. And I just

00:43:05.980 was wondering what your thoughts on on that potential and how great it is uh i mean that's

00:43:11.640 the best part right um by the way uh john if you could uh sorry uh steve i'll get right back to you

00:43:18.100 that i saw tamara lich is in the house and i made a comment if you could just put tamara's uh uh

00:43:23.820 right there right there under your cursor a little bit down there there's one more down

00:43:27.780 i mean for somebody like uh can you put it on the screen for tamara to say it's definitely

00:43:33.800 frustrating and tamara's level of uh tolerance for frustration is uh is is off the chart right so

00:43:41.160 saw her speak here in calgary last week a wonderful lady uh a saint as far as i'm concerned her

00:43:46.440 ability to forgive what happened to her yeah yeah um so no um unbelievable yeah unbelievable uh back

00:43:53.560 to your con so no steve uh that is one of the you know i got goosebumps about this whole thing and

00:43:58.520 and your question that's one of the amazing things about alberta independence right um

00:44:03.800 Bruce Hardy is the one who speaks along these lines the most.

00:44:07.000 He's like, make that leap of faith.

00:44:10.280 You know, we're not happy.

00:44:11.300 Make the leap of faith, both for independence,

00:44:13.280 and then hold that constitutional conference

00:44:17.160 and then decide on the future what the country looks like

00:44:20.160 and dare to be bold, right?

00:44:22.400 Think boldly.

00:44:23.760 And so that is the amazing part.

00:44:26.500 We can be bold.

00:44:27.500 We can reinvent ourselves.

00:44:29.260 I don't think we need to reinvent too much.

00:44:30.920 I mean, I've said, I'm on the record of saying this, right?

00:44:33.180 If I look across the street, across the border into the U.S. and I look at their constitution and how it survived time, especially with all its amendments, like, you know, you take the American constitution, incorporate the amendments, change the word to Alberta and fine tune it a little bit.

00:44:48.180 And I think we can do something bold. So, no, I'm with you. Definitely. Definitely. Sorry. Definitely do not want Alberta to just be a mini version of Canada. No way.

00:44:56.860 no no that that's exactly it and this this is an opportunity i'm not kidding uh as great as the

00:45:05.000 people stepping on the mayflower come over to start a new country in north america uh this is

00:45:11.720 a huge potential and it's so exciting and that's i'm going to calgary tomorrow actually to look

00:45:17.180 for a place to live uh i'm out of british columbia it is socialist here it is not going to change

00:45:23.160 and the opportunity for a whole new country

00:45:28.180 with a whole new way of doing things

00:45:29.940 is incredible, Marty.

00:45:32.940 Let's get rid of half of the laws on the book.

00:45:35.900 There's just too much bureaucracy,

00:45:37.460 too much restrictions on our freedom.

00:45:40.340 Well, I definitely want to, yeah,

00:45:43.140 and I want to finish that thought

00:45:44.640 with this thought, right?

00:45:46.680 I've been asked questions

00:45:48.220 along those lines quite a bit

00:45:49.500 and um one of the one of the things that leads to all these problems is every time governments

00:45:56.700 anywhere in the world become bigger it just leads to problem right like why because the temptation

00:46:02.780 to to do something bad is too great right so maybe maybe that's not maryland gladu's reason but i 0.88

00:46:11.260 think fundamentally somewhere in there it is right she she can say any way she spins it it comes down

00:46:16.620 to big money big government right oh i i had to cross the floor to help my constituents or i had

00:46:20.940 to cross the floor because that's the only way that this happens and and when you break it down

00:46:25.180 it's like money money money money money and big government right so i my hope is that alberta will

00:46:30.940 be a smaller we'll go back to being a smaller the bare minimum necessary for governance i don't i

00:46:38.060 don't need a minimum bare minimum i don't need all this excess stuff because that just creates the

00:46:42.860 opportunity for corruption and problems that's one thought and my second that's it yeah and then

00:46:48.140 my second thought was and that and how do you feel about this one but um we're a lot of people i talk

00:46:55.180 to are stuck on the concept of parties and i i do like uh there are a lot of democracies around the

00:47:01.660 world that don't have parties and and where everybody's before 1906 yeah yeah like i i like

00:47:08.700 the idea canada before 1906 yeah no parties yeah so then you can't cross the floor because there's

00:47:15.420 no parties that's that's and and people how about the parliamentarians get paid the average wage

00:47:22.940 of the citizen in their province oh yeah well absolutely i mean right now it's what it's three

00:47:27.820 times it's three times it's it's it's yeah yeah and if the people do better than the than the

00:47:33.260 the politicians do better we've got to get rid of the corruption marty i think that's one of the

00:47:37.920 my biggest frustrations uh is the corruption and just the money flowing everywhere let's get the

00:47:43.580 money out of politics yeah i agree 100 thank you for what you're doing yeah thank you yeah smaller

00:47:48.520 government takes away a lot of corruption as soon as i get an address as soon as i get an address

00:47:53.040 i'll come sign awesome awesome thank you uh so let me uh so let's finish on all right thanks so

00:47:58.420 let's finish on the injunction. And so right now we're in a status quo,

00:48:04.620 we're collecting signatures and I don't know what Mitch or the others want to

00:48:09.280 do. If they want to pre-count them, announce them, whatever, we'll, we'll,

00:48:12.300 we'll wait. But then somebody brought up a question. I think it was maybe it was

00:48:17.100 Reed or Dave.

00:48:18.040 Somebody asked a question about the rumor that this could all be, you know,

00:48:22.680 The rumor was, could there be an Emergency Measures Act reenacted for this, right?

00:48:31.160 That rumor comes out of the fact Jeff Rath this week tweeted out something that somebody called him and had heard at an event where Carney was speaking that Carney is on the record as saying if Alberta's separation ever got that far, that he would consider invoking the Emergency Measures Act.

00:48:52.680 Okay. I don't, I don't, I trust Jeff. Jeff wouldn't ever, he's a lawyer, so he wouldn't post something like that unless he trusted the source he heard it from. Is the source he heard it from hear it correctly? Who knows? I'm not going to debate that. Is it possible that the government of Canada would invoke the Emergency Measures Act? I would say yes, because I mean, I live in, you know, my bingo card for weird events in 2024, 2025, 2026 is like completely checked off.

00:49:21.160 i don't there's nothing there's nothing out of the realm of possible anymore like the government

00:49:26.920 will do and i'll bring it back to this i think we are going to get um you know the injunction is one

00:49:33.480 step nenshi lukasic the media government shenanigans we are not done we are we are trying to

00:49:43.480 improve our lives and go for an independent alberta through all the legal means possible

00:49:47.960 and i want to exhaust all the legal means i hope we never have to get uh civil about this into the

00:49:55.320 real civil disobedience but uh but i'm preparing myself for maybe a longer battle because the other

00:50:00.760 side is going to throw a lot of stuff at us to try and stop us and yes the emergency measures act is

00:50:06.440 definitely not out of out of the realm of possible go ahead on the line uh name where are you calling

00:50:11.480 from hey marty it's timothy calling from edmonton how's going good good timothy uh how's the snow

00:50:17.400 up there did it make its way up to you guys it did yeah i thought it would melt quicker but we

00:50:23.000 still have a little bit of snow here at the moment although it is disappearing relatively soon so

00:50:27.640 uh probably won't last too much longer and we'll be back to a regular spring

00:50:33.400 um but yeah the reason i was calling that was about uh yeah kearney's uh majority

00:50:39.080 situation here that we've gotten ourselves into or i should say the east has gotten us into

00:50:44.120 um yeah it seemed entirely predictable in my opinion since at least two of the three seats

00:50:50.040 were liberal strongholds there was little doubt about which way they would go i mean the bigger

00:50:55.100 surprise was all the floor crossings that occurred and especially the last one with 1.00

00:50:59.680 marilyn gladu crossing the floor because she had some pretty strong conservative uh credentials 1.00

00:51:05.080 um from quite a ways back like all the way back to covet she was the one standing up against the

00:51:10.700 gab she's one of the stronger social conservatives in the party uh it's really difficult for me to

00:51:16.980 understand what her motivation would be across the floor um like there were some rumors going 0.95

00:51:22.360 on going around about her house her husband potentially having some ties to contracts that

00:51:27.700 were necessary through brookfield but i did some research on that and it didn't seem to have any

00:51:32.060 basis um i don't know maybe you already covered this earlier but sorry no stay on the line tim

00:51:37.940 And somebody apparently went through her records, right?

00:51:39.720 Like MPs have to disclose sort of like their assets or their net worth kind of thing.

00:51:44.000 And apparently she's not very rich, right?

00:51:45.600 She spent a decade as an engineer and so did her husband. 1.00

00:51:48.860 And then she spent 10 years in politics and doesn't have much to show for it. 1.00

00:51:52.780 So maybe she's just one of those really, really piss poor money managers who needs the money. 0.79

00:51:58.140 I don't know. 1.00

00:51:59.920 Yeah.

00:52:00.420 Yeah.

00:52:01.080 No.

00:52:01.940 And then what do you make it?

00:52:03.500 Go ahead.

00:52:04.200 Go ahead. 0.97

00:52:04.460 Well, I was going to say another theory was that, yeah, she was rumored to have been convinced to run again this time, but is probably going to retire at the end of this term. And she obviously wouldn't be reelected in that riding because it's such a strong conservative riding. There's no way they'd elect her under the liberal banner. 0.80

00:52:20.040 So maybe she just wanted to have one shot in actual governance, actually making some laws and such, you know, as her final parting shot so that she can say that she was part of the government, I guess.

00:52:31.200 I don't know.

00:52:31.960 Want some notoriety as well as, yeah, as you mentioned, the additional extra on top of her paycheck, being part of the government, probably in some sort of committee or something, making extra.

00:52:41.360 No, I mean, you're right, because there's actually a video on X right now and other platforms that apparently Carney wanted her to delete, but you can't delete it from X, man.

00:52:52.960 Once it's on there, it's there forever.

00:52:54.980 And it's basically a two and a half minute rant of hers where she is absolutely savage towards the liberals.

00:53:01.560 And to have that sort of such a dramatic change of heart, I mean, that'd be like me running for the NDP tomorrow morning.

00:53:07.520 Nobody would believe me, right?

00:53:08.700 like exactly like me me shaking hands with naheed nenshi and saying hey great job buddy love what

00:53:16.180 you've done for the last 10 years not gonna happen not gonna happen folks oh that's another

00:53:21.720 go ahead oh yeah i was just gonna say yeah how do you flip on a dime like that it just really

00:53:27.580 makes no sense at all she was also the one that wrote the article in a paper what was it two 0.90

00:53:33.060 months ago or something calling for any floor crossers to have to go back for re-election 0.75

00:53:36.660 And yet, two months later, she crosses the floor like, how does a person do this? Like, clearly, there's a major lack of integrity, which is really unfortunate. And I mean, you talked about the idea of having no parties, which I mean, I understand the sympathy towards that idea in some cases. 0.55

00:53:53.260 But, I mean, here, at least in Alberta, we just moved our municipalities towards having parties because we were running into issues with a lack of integrity amongst city councillors and such because you couldn't tell what they would stand for necessarily because they would be elected.

00:54:11.800 Until it was too late.

00:54:13.740 But then, yeah, and then once you're in government, they turn more liberal and such.

00:54:19.880 But, I mean, I guess on the flip side, we're seeing that at the federal level, even with the parties.

00:54:25.220 So, I don't know.

00:54:26.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:26.780 Maybe that negates the argument.

00:54:28.400 Yeah, speaking of Nenshi, did you see the clip of him and Danielle having that little –

00:54:32.880 Nenshi had a meltdown in the legislature yesterday because, you know,

00:54:37.920 He was on her case for accepting a few bucks when she toured Saudi Arabia, so then she used her resources and her staff found all the trips that Nenshi accepted on behalf of China and others, and he had a complete meltdown.

00:54:53.280 Oh, yeah.

00:54:53.920 Well, everything that he says can be flipped right back on him, like even his complaining about the redistricting of the province.

00:55:00.980 He rejected the recommendation for redistricting within Calgary itself every time it was proposed to him.

00:55:07.020 and had his own ideas so that's the great thing about nenshi like he has a long history of

00:55:13.500 doing exactly what he's criticizing the conservative government for doing

00:55:17.660 like he's yeah he's not some sort of uh lofty ideal by any means yeah i'll i'll finish it off

00:55:25.940 with one thought and and um you know you and i are rational human beings and you're using the term

00:55:31.780 you know um uh ethical and and and moral and stuff like that and and i i'm kind of agreeing now when

00:55:39.140 people tell me you can't apply those terms to the average politician they're they're not that moral

00:55:44.260 right like their moral compass is different than ours even maryland gladue right they they they

00:55:50.100 there's something that happens when you go into politics oh yeah well i mean power crops right

00:55:57.540 and absolute power crops absolutely right but uh but just to close off i was gonna say uh as well

00:56:03.380 i don't know if you talked about it or saw in the news about alberta getting new provincial signs i

00:56:07.980 was pretty happy about that i wasn't a big fan of the old uh brown wooden drab signs as you

00:56:14.400 enter alberta some of the neighboring provinces have considerably nicer ones so it's nice that

00:56:18.700 we're going to be upgrading ours but uh yeah i just think we need to add some border officers

00:56:22.960 and some boots as well there, border boots at those same locations.

00:56:27.320 And we'll be good to go there after October.

00:56:29.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:30.040 No, I don't mind the new signs.

00:56:32.300 I mean, that's more or less, that's cool.

00:56:35.360 But deep down, I am a conservative who is also nostalgic for old things.

00:56:40.540 And I do get sad that a lot of our symbols, those signs, regardless, are kind of a symbol, right?

00:56:48.100 i mean i i've maybe it's because personally i use those signs all the times as backgrounds for

00:56:53.620 for my own posters and stuff like that so now i'm gonna now i'm gonna have to change my posters but

00:56:58.340 yeah i appreciate that yeah yeah yeah cool thanks for calling tim oh yeah um boy we're okay this

00:57:07.300 show is awesome we're gonna have a couple more minutes if we got a chance for another call

00:57:12.500 i'm looking at my list i got we never got around to a whole bunch of things today i

00:57:17.540 I wanted to talk about maybe I'll just go there real quick and we'll finish the show on this and maybe we'll have more to talk about this next week.

00:57:24.600 You know, I wanted to talk about some of the I always want to talk about some of the good things going on in Alberta.

00:57:29.100 Right. There are good things going on in Alberta.

00:57:30.800 I think this current setting sitting of the legislature has passed some great rules.

00:57:35.060 Last week, we talked about 25 and 26.

00:57:38.140 Yesterday was Bill 30 got introduced. 0.75

00:57:40.960 So Danielle is, again, reasserting our own jurisdiction over our own mandates and responsibilities.

00:57:51.620 And so she's introducing sort of a fast track project process so that projects that are, I haven't, again, I haven't had a chance to totally dissect it.

00:58:03.080 There are, you know, it's in the first reading, but this bill is kind of putting a limit of 120 days.

00:58:08.520 So she's targeting that any project over $250 million would get sort of a preferential treatment and be accelerated, fast-tracked to approval.

00:58:20.480 And I ask people, you know, is that a good step in the right direction or is that government picking and choosing winners and losers?

00:58:27.160 And most people seem to agree.

00:58:30.080 It's in line with the fact that there was another report today or yesterday from the Royal Bank that said over the last decade, like one point something trillion dollars of capital fled Canada.

00:58:42.060 And so we need to bring that back. And Carney's doing his part. I don't think Carney's doing enough to attract investors.

00:58:48.220 And I think this is definitely a right step in the right direction for Smith to attract investors.

00:58:52.880 And it ties nicely with sort of a subtle announcement this week.

00:58:57.680 Donald Trump approved five pipeline changes in the U.S.

00:59:02.100 So it's all tied in.

00:59:03.320 I got one more call, so it's probably going to be the last call today.

00:59:06.260 So go ahead and whoever on the line.

00:59:10.560 Hi, Marty.

00:59:12.240 Hi.

00:59:13.080 Hello, Marty.

00:59:13.960 Hello.

00:59:15.700 I'm calling from West Rock, Alberta.

00:59:18.460 It's Dave.

00:59:19.380 um even if pierre would take power the conservatives and i'm a conservative 0.98

00:59:26.580 have always leaned to give the their power to the east because that damn boat they need out there 0.92

00:59:34.540 to get re-elected so they're not going to help us we've got to separate 0.74

00:59:39.720 no i agree and because they're not really on our side no even even 100 and even even the

00:59:48.380 alberta mps are reluctant to talk about it right you said that was on the news this week uh i can't

00:59:54.960 remember the mp's first name bexy uh he's kian bexy's father um new new mp an alberta mp and

01:00:04.560 he was put on the spot like did you sign the petition and he and again he brushed it off he's

01:00:08.540 like uh that's off topic and so they won't even talk about it because you're right they don't

01:00:12.940 to upset their voters uh the majority of voters that they're out east absolutely um

01:00:19.500 is westlock forgive my ignorance is westlock close to gibbons

01:00:25.180 uh no kind of probably a hundred kilometers away okay no the reason i brought that i saw on the

01:00:34.220 news today that the gibbons is probably going to lose its status as a town and go back to being

01:00:39.900 part of sturgeon county because gibbons is bankrupt uh one 15.3 million dollars in debt

01:00:47.420 wow yeah maybe we'll we were the town that we were the town that outlawed the crosswalk oh you were

01:00:54.460 one of those towns fantastic okay awesome thank you we were the first we were the first first yeah

01:01:01.180 okay yeah well it's right in front of the legion which it shouldn't have been uh just before i let

01:01:07.820 you go how's the independent signing uh petition signing in your neck of the woods are there do you

01:01:13.900 see pop-ups everywhere flags is it is it uh how's the momentum no no no we'll talk a very quiet

01:01:22.860 retired community and uh there there is some liberals here uh and people who don't want to

01:01:31.740 to get involved they just don't care they're living out the last of their lives and they don't

01:01:37.740 care about their grandchildren or anything and about the future of alberta well we'll try and

01:01:43.960 make that change i mean there's a lot of good groups that are going all over the province in

01:01:48.200 the next three months four months holding little speech town halls and and uh lectures everywhere

01:01:53.860 so make sure westlock is on the list thanks for calling have a great i wish westlock would wake

01:01:58.920 up. All right. I wish

01:02:00.620 was off and wake up. Thank you.

01:02:02.660 You're welcome. Marty. All right. Take care. Cheers.

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Western Standard - April 19, 2026

MARTY UP NORTH： Liberal majority and a stay on Alberta independence？

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