Western Standard - MARTY UP NORTH： Liberals extend amnesty period for firearms ban

00:00:00.000 experience for me today i am not in the studio

00:00:30.000 i don't know if do you want me to get up and can we pan real quick if i get up and just show you

00:00:36.200 let me uh i'll leave the camera and i'll come over here maybe we should have started the show this

00:00:42.100 way yeah all right we're good all right so i'm coming to sail go ahead yeah yeah yeah no well

00:00:53.120 i wasn't i wasn't coming to interview you i just wanted to start the show this way and show that

00:00:57.480 i'm not in studio today right now i am with the western standard and we are media partners here

00:01:03.260 at the uh i still call it the petroleum show what's it called it's the global energy show

00:01:08.160 the global energy show yeah i i i have an oil patch background maybe i'll come back to that

00:01:12.780 in a second but um like we are a partner yeah we are media partners they invite us

00:01:21.380 every year uh we are considered to be one of the most pro energy publications being western

00:01:26.820 canadian-based company obviously that puts us in a lot of uh oil and gas supporters good graces so

00:01:34.740 we always have had that bent so they're always happy to have us here they've let us set up a

00:01:38.880 booth and we've been hosting our shows here all week awesome all week now it's the end of the show

00:01:44.280 and then when you walk around you can tell people are getting a little tired uh if i remember though

00:01:49.880 there used to be a tradition after the show there's usually a few road pops and a few uh

00:01:54.740 hospitality yeah no we won't be doing a hospitality suite but if you want to come down we are selling

00:01:59.860 merchandise like i'm glad we're doing this we got our ralph klein shirts in here uh let the eastern

00:02:05.300 bastards freeze in the dark if you want to and we also we don't have any coffee mugs in stock but

00:02:09.380 the coffee mug's been which one's been the best seller seller just because we have steven guibo's 0.97

00:02:14.340 uh mug shot um i would grab it and bring it over here but we got the steven guibo collection t-shirts

00:02:20.980 um he's not very happy about these because he's frustrated about being lampooned so much but we've

00:02:26.900 put his mug shot on a t-shirt and we've put it on coffee mugs as well you know what i say to 0.99

00:02:32.500 politicians that are upset about being lampoon don't be an idiot like if you don't if you don't 1.00

00:02:37.300 want to be lampooned do your job if you do your job we'll respect you if you're a clown you'll 0.99

00:02:43.620 quit right and uh so yeah these are limited time collection because uh he is quitting on but uh

00:02:50.180 yeah we're looking forward to the day that uh so these are yeah these are on sale down here so if

00:02:54.260 you're in calgary and you want to swing by uh we're here till four and you can grab your shirt awesome

00:02:59.060 all right well i'm gonna go back and sit down and then i'll give my normal uh

00:03:08.100 all right so uh now i don't have a teleprompter but that's okay so the show is not i'm gonna

00:03:13.940 it's the same format folks nothing changes uh just because we're coming live from the uh energy show

00:03:20.180 So it is still a call-in show.

00:03:24.600 The number's on the bottom of the screen, I assume, right, John?

00:03:27.680 Everything's good.

00:03:28.420 So I got my headphone.

00:03:30.640 Nothing's changed.

00:03:31.500 But I'll offer this.

00:03:33.080 If you are at the show right now and you want to come around,

00:03:37.240 you can come around and sit down next to me and we can have a little quick chat.

00:03:41.120 Sounds good?

00:03:42.640 So actually, let me give you a quick background on my involvement with the oil patch, right?

00:03:50.800 So you guys know I'm an engineer, and online I'm known as Marty Up North.

00:03:54.940 People often say, why are you known as Marty Up North?

00:03:58.520 I started my career in the oil patch in a place called Fox Creek, Alberta.

00:04:03.680 And let me tell you just a quick story, right?

00:04:06.360 So I graduated from engineering back in 1989.

00:04:12.340 And at that time, Canada was just coming out of a recession.

00:04:15.260 So was Alberta.

00:04:16.880 And jobs were hard to come by.

00:04:19.040 Now, luckily, I had worked in the oil patch.

00:04:21.200 So I had a pretty good resume.

00:04:23.380 But still, jobs were hard to come by.

00:04:25.600 And I was interviewing with a company called Amoco.

00:04:29.020 Amoco doesn't exist anymore.

00:04:30.600 But Amoco was a pretty big company at the time.

00:04:33.780 And what they did is they, I sent my resume like anybody else.

00:04:39.040 And then they were shortlisting about 40 of us.

00:04:42.180 I mean, that's a lot of resumes.

00:04:43.900 And they invited us all to come to the Crossfield Gas Plant, which is just north of Calgary here.

00:04:51.020 And at the Crossfield Gas Plant, Amoco had guys from a lot of their various different offices.

00:04:56.440 And they were interviewing us.

00:04:58.220 And they were looking for about 10 students, 10 new grads to go work in the oil patch.

00:05:02.940 And I remember sitting around talking to one of the interviewers and I asked him a pretty blunt question.

00:05:09.740 I said, is there a town where nobody wants to go work?

00:05:14.820 And the guy said, yeah, nobody wants to go work in Fox Creek.

00:05:18.280 So I said, OK, well, then, you know, being a smart ass, I'm like, so if nobody wants to go work in Fox Creek, if I accept to go work in Fox Creek, do I get a job?

00:05:26.220 And the guy immediately, the guy's name was Bruce Berg.

00:05:28.360 If you're still around, Bruce, shout out to you, bud.

00:05:31.560 And he's like, yeah, if you're willing to go to Fox Creek, we'll give you a job.

00:05:34.620 So I said, you know, I'll go to Fox Creek.

00:05:36.540 I had no idea what I was getting into.

00:05:38.500 I'm an Eastern kid at that point.

00:05:42.560 I'd worked in Slave Lake.

00:05:44.340 I'd worked in Calgary, but I had not been to Fox Creek.

00:05:47.060 I accepted the job.

00:05:48.280 I owned a little Dodge Omni through my big speakers, a few things, drove up to Fox Creek.

00:05:54.120 And I'm like, you know, everybody's first reaction is like, oh my, what have you done?

00:05:57.460 But it turned out to be a great choice for a career and for lifestyle for whatever reason.

00:06:07.120 I mean, it started out my career on the right path because I started working up north close to the action and ended up living in Fox Creek for about eight years.

00:06:16.580 And sort of the last thing I want to say about that time, and it ties to this, right?

00:06:23.120 That was 35 years ago that I was in Fox Creek.

00:06:25.560 And I remember when I'm settling down there and I'm starting to work, and there were these old timers that basically said, Marty, don't get too comfortable here. This industry is dead. I was like, what? Okay, I chose to go into the oil patch and it's dying, right?

00:06:43.500 They couldn't have been more wrong.

00:06:45.600 I mean, the industry is, it's been 30, for me, it's been 1990 or 89.

00:06:51.540 It's going on 37 years I've been working in this industry in one way or another.

00:06:55.860 And the industry is still going strong.

00:06:57.680 And the show today here, this week, walking around, people are excited, right?

00:07:03.380 I mean, the show used to be big.

00:07:06.060 Then COVID hit, the show got smaller.

00:07:08.500 And now the show is regaining size and importance.

00:07:12.460 But the other thing that's happening is I think there is a real awakening out east, especially among liberals.

00:07:18.820 They've really realized the war in Iran brought this to the forefront.

00:07:24.520 This industry is not going away, folks, like oil and gas.

00:07:28.040 I mean, the show, I'll say this, they've rebranded.

00:07:31.280 It used to be called the Global Petroleum Show.

00:07:33.100 I noticed on the board up there, it's now called the Global Energy Show.

00:07:36.260 I guess that's an attempt to include more than just petroleum.

00:07:39.620 It includes wind and solar and things like that.

00:07:41.980 And there's a little bit of evidence of that here.

00:07:43.840 There are people in those industries here.

00:07:47.840 But fundamentally, this is a hydrocarbon show,

00:07:52.900 and hydrocarbons are not going away anytime soon,

00:07:55.740 like just not anytime soon.

00:07:58.000 Okay, so we got a call on the line.

00:08:00.680 I'm getting a signal.

00:08:02.320 Same as usual, let me know your name, where you're calling from,

00:08:05.340 what you want to talk about, and we'll go from there.

00:08:08.500 Go ahead.

00:08:12.980 Hello?

00:08:17.080 Maybe they're talking, John, and I can't hear them?

00:08:23.500 Okay, we'll let John work on that.

00:08:27.940 We might have a small technical glitch here because we're not in studio.

00:08:35.780 Curtis, I see you standing over there.

00:08:37.880 Are you brave enough to come chat?

00:08:40.740 Sure.

00:08:41.980 oh yes oh hang on one second now okay we got somebody on the line go ahead what's your name

00:08:47.360 where are you calling from my name is slavica vukmanovic and i'm calling from bc oh what's

00:08:55.480 on your mind how are you today i'm good okay so my message is that alberta is doing the absolute

00:09:06.980 correct thing and i don't know why all the other provinces in canada aren't doing exactly the same

00:09:14.100 thing wanting independence from our government and wanting to write a new constitution

00:09:21.700 because our present constitution is making slaves of all canadians

00:09:27.620 you're you're okay yeah you're preaching to the converted i i'm with you there so

00:09:32.340 fantastic so my message is you know that your people in alberta should actually not only be

00:09:43.140 encouraging their own people but all people in canada because our constitution affects all people

00:09:49.780 in canada just dealing with some technical difficulties apologies here uh john can get

00:10:00.580 you your own microphone and then we'll be we'll have a little chat back and forth

00:10:10.340 perfect so i won't be able to hear the callers if to call in but uh yeah so yeah happy to be here

00:10:16.900 uh what are the hot topics this week well the actually the number one topic that i wanted to

00:10:21.540 talk about today is well i got two i want to talk about carney's comments about or not carney's

00:10:27.940 comments trump's comments about not being interested in renewing kuzma i thought that's a

00:10:33.060 good one yeah and uh we'll start with that one and let maybe callers call in on that one i also want

00:10:39.140 to talk about the gun ban amnesty period being extended i think those two are pretty important

00:10:44.980 and if we have time i know we have time i want to talk about uh what's going on in tabor with

00:10:49.060 cory's uh signs yes yes you know that's all fantastic stuff on kuzma i think this is a

00:10:54.980 very interesting period for the federal government um you're dealing with uh potentially disastrous

00:11:00.740 trade talks there's uh and you're dealing with a president that is a master in in the art of

00:11:06.660 these negotiations it'll be interesting to see how just given the state of confederation where

00:11:12.420 you have a prime minister trying his best to keep a country together that is fraying at the seams

00:11:18.740 All the while...

00:11:19.820 Do you think he's trying...

00:11:21.080 I mean, some days I think he's trying to do the best.

00:11:23.180 He's talking the talk, at least publicly.

00:11:25.200 Do I think that he's legitimate in his approach?

00:11:29.900 Absolutely not.

00:11:31.540 I think that there...

00:11:32.340 But did you see the clip of Trump?

00:11:34.340 I mean, it sort of made the rounds yesterday.

00:11:36.620 Trump basically said in a press conference from the Oval Office

00:11:39.560 that he's not interested in renewing Kuzma.

00:11:43.020 That Carney's not or Trump isn't?

00:11:44.600 Trump's not interested.

00:11:45.620 Well, especially in his current form.

00:11:47.300 I mean, he's got legitimate concerns, right?

00:11:49.300 I mean, one of the biggest issues that has affected Canadians is dairy, for example,

00:11:54.900 and our supply management system.

00:11:56.840 We have under-contributed to a lot of military.

00:12:03.060 Yeah, and he brings up those points, right?

00:12:04.820 Yeah.

00:12:05.320 In the clip yesterday, it's kind of nice.

00:12:08.500 I mean, what I think he wants to say is, you know, Canada is not pulling its weight,

00:12:12.680 and he might even want to go a little bit further in saying, you know,

00:12:16.140 your prime minister is being a bit of a problem yeah yeah yeah but but then i also listen to him

00:12:25.140 and what you just said earlier he's also a master at uh negotiation so that's a good uh start right

00:12:31.280 you kind of say i'm not interested and then you throw the ball in the other guy's court well he's

00:12:35.680 got a lot of a lot of issues with like a lot of protectionist policies and i think that's one of

00:12:41.280 We talk about cultural differences between Eastern Canada and Western Canada.

00:12:46.120 Western Canada out here, we haven't been able to rely on the East as much as we need the U.S., right?

00:12:51.280 That's just a geographical thing.

00:12:52.960 There's a border on the 49th parallel just south in the Couture, just on that south end there.

00:12:59.500 So a lot of people in Alberta, like our history, we've had to rely on the United States more.

00:13:04.320 Whereas out East, it's a different type of a concept.

00:13:09.180 they feel like they need to protect Ontario jobs.

00:13:12.100 And so I think it puts Canada in trade negotiations at a bit of a crossroads

00:13:17.420 where, yes, we have Western interests that we need the United States.

00:13:21.800 We want to sell to the United States.

00:13:23.500 But then we also have Ontario interests.

00:13:26.260 Like every time I see a Protect Ontario ad, I want to throw something at my team.

00:13:29.720 Because in my opinion, yes, we do need Ontario jobs,

00:13:33.500 but we need to have a better trade relationship with the United States.

00:13:37.440 We are an export-based economy.

00:13:39.000 They are our largest trading partner. And a lot of these policies that over years of liberal and in some cases, progressive conservative governments have watered down that trade relationship.

00:13:49.540 It brings up issues about our internal trade structure as well. Right. So, yeah, well, yeah, there's a lot to unpack there.

00:13:56.480 But if Trump doesn't renegotiate and by the way, renegotiate would be it's still good for 10 years. Right.

00:14:01.600 I mean, there's a there's a window here coming up where we could fine tune it and extend it, I guess, by another 10 years.

00:14:09.440 But if if if nothing happens in July, then status quo goes on for another 10 year.

00:14:14.520 It could get worse, though. I mean, Trump has the power to he could he could say, I want out.

00:14:21.540 He could he could sort of file a what's the word?

00:14:28.000 Make it he could literally pull out of the deal.

00:14:30.760 He could pull out of the deal with six months' notice.

00:14:33.080 But I just want to go back to a couple of things that you sort of mentioned. 0.95

00:14:36.960 Alberta, yeah, Alberta has a different history with the U.S.

00:14:39.780 and a different relationship, right?

00:14:41.640 I mean, our number one trade with them is what we're seeing here.

00:14:44.560 We trade oil, a lot of it, and gas.

00:14:47.200 And that's not covered by Kuzma.

00:14:49.400 No.

00:14:49.700 Well, I think it is, but I think in terms of the tariffs

00:14:52.960 and Trump's approach to the negotiations,

00:14:55.500 and this goes back to a lot of, like, in the Free Alberta strategy,

00:14:59.120 which Rob Anderson wrote,

00:15:00.760 One of the main objectives of an Alberta government that is focused on Alberta interests is you create your own trade relationships.

00:15:09.720 And so we saw in January of last year, Danielle Smith going down to Mar-a-Lago and was absolutely ripped and called a trader just for putting Alberta's interest on the map.

00:15:20.240 Just for doing her business.

00:15:21.140 Yeah. And so you want to talk about an evolution of circumstances.

00:15:24.240 And we now have the independence referendum on coming up.

00:15:27.440 Like, it's very much like if that's the attitude of the rest of the country, that we aren't even allowed to find ways to exempt our products from potentially nasty trade negotiations where on our side is being led by a prime minister that is focused on protecting Ontario jobs.

00:15:45.180 It's going to create more division down the road. 0.88

00:15:47.640 So this Kuzma thing is definitely something to keep an eye on over the next. 1.00

00:15:50.700 So just I'll just finish it with this. 0.80

00:15:52.480 So yeah, so right now oil gets at best a 10% tariff, right?

00:15:57.220 And it doesn't seem to really affect our production.

00:16:00.960 We're still selling, selling, selling records.

00:16:02.840 But on the other hand, Kuzma does protect a lot of Ontario and Quebec industries.

00:16:09.700 Trump would like to put tariffs on more of Ontario and Quebec products, but Kuzma prevents them.

00:16:15.220 So if Kuzma is not renewed, that could be really disastrous.

00:16:20.360 Yeah, absolutely.

00:16:21.240 It could have absolutely devastating economic impacts.

00:16:24.320 We've already seen job numbers across the country.

00:16:27.400 Alberta is leading the country.

00:16:29.500 I mean, all of these fear campaigns from guys like Jason Kenney and others that are saying that if we move down this road, that the Alberta economy is going to crash.

00:16:39.880 Like, this discussion has been going on for months, and we are still leading the country by a large margin in job growth.

00:16:46.460 So I think, like—

00:16:47.240 Can we do just a weird—

00:16:49.160 I'll let you, yeah.

00:16:49.880 No, no. Weird left turn on jobs. You're right. So Alberta is creating the most jobs. Danielle's been saying, and I agree, I've seen the data. But did you see, there was a comment yesterday from, I guess it's elections. Alberta says that the referendum will require about 60,000 temporary workers, right? Okay, sure enough. It's like an election. And NDP, Nenshi was complaining about that. Like, since when does an NDP leader complain about more jobs?

00:17:15.500 Well, actually, I think that's a regular thing they do. Job creation is not something that the provincial or federal, their federal counterparts in the federal NDP.

00:17:26.280 I don't even want to go on this federal counterpart. Abby's had some doozies this week. 0.98

00:17:30.140 I know. Abby's always an interesting character. So, yeah, no, I think the Elections Alberta thing, I'm not as dialed in to the internal mechanisms. 0.99

00:17:39.220 I think that a $90 million price tag on that, I don't know how they're planning on spending.

00:17:45.660 I'd like to see a costed analysis of exactly how that breakdown occurs.

00:17:49.940 I can prorate some of the previous elections, and there's no way that $100 million is in the range.

00:17:57.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:58.940 The NDP just liked to—actually, it's been noticeable that Nenshi is distancing himself from Abby Lewis.

00:18:06.860 I have noticed that it's kind of hard to completely distance yourself when the link is constitutional.

00:18:12.760 Like when you buy an Alberta NDP membership, you also get a federal membership.

00:18:17.060 Like this is just like no matter how hard Nenshi tries to dismiss himself, unless that is changed.

00:18:22.080 And I actually think that the NDP needs to totally rebrand.

00:18:25.580 I think they have actually I think they've got some issues internally with federal with provincial liberals.

00:18:30.820 Right. Like you might see more people that support Carney than support.

00:18:34.440 I'd argue that Nenshi is already sort of doing that rebranding, right?

00:18:37.900 He's getting more purple, less orange, more purple.

00:18:42.660 Yeah, I mean, every time there's an infrastructure crisis in Calgary,

00:18:46.060 it knocks him down a little bit, but yeah.

00:18:48.520 He'll never live down the water.

00:18:49.580 Never live down the water pipes, no.

00:18:51.520 Yeah, no kidding.

00:18:52.900 All right, well, let's move on then.

00:18:54.700 So actually, breaking news.

00:18:57.600 There's breaking news.

00:18:58.580 I wanted to talk about Corey's billboard and Tabor.

00:19:02.400 kudos to cory right i mean one thing i like about the independence movement is that it's grassroot

00:19:08.760 and it's sort of leadership and effort is moving around right so jeff rath and and mitch uh put in

00:19:16.680 a lot of effort and to me it looks like they're sort of maybe mitch more is kind of taking a

00:19:21.740 break i don't blame him right these but then there's no void cory stepping up i love the way

00:19:27.360 cory stepping up i think that's just the nature of the movement right like it's not and it never

00:19:31.800 has been leader driven it's all it's you have a base of people that they're looking for for answers

00:19:38.120 they're looking for leadership and and if you have an incident i think one of the issues that

00:19:43.720 wrath and sylvester are are experiencing right now is that you have a referendum question you have to

00:19:50.200 focus on campaigning for that question yeah and yes there's frustration towards the decision by

00:19:55.800 Smith to move in this direction but if you're not properly channeling the emotions of your

00:20:02.500 supporters and you're focusing away from where they want to focus which is probably on winning

00:20:07.460 this referendum I mean if this referendum isn't won it's it's a devastating blow so that gives

00:20:12.980 guys like Corey who are focused on what they need to be focused on which is winning this referendum

00:20:19.560 and I think that the base of support is just following whoever is leading the people in that

00:20:25.200 direction in that direction and it's it's not like everybody's got their individual egos but

00:20:29.820 the people that are showing up and they're they're gathering petitions signatures and they're they're

00:20:35.600 showing up at events and they're asking questions those are just regular people they they show up

00:20:40.640 at a lot they use when i had project confederation they'd show up at my events they're great people

00:20:45.680 yeah and i just wanted like i was i was gonna do uh it's a shout out to cory so i think he's

00:20:50.920 Stepping up while others are regrouping kind of thing, which is good.

00:20:54.560 So the leadership is, it's a grassroots movement and people step up at various times.

00:20:59.880 So I think Corey lately has done a great job of stepping up.

00:21:02.080 But the breaking news was, we all know that Corey right now is in a bit of a battle with the town of Tabor.

00:21:09.260 He put up one sign, now he's got two more.

00:21:11.580 So he's up to three, which is great.

00:21:13.580 But just breaking right now, Jason Levine got one in Edmonton.

00:21:18.360 Oh, where in Edmonton?

00:21:20.080 Dean got one right close to the legislature.

00:21:23.380 Good.

00:21:24.060 A big digital one.

00:21:25.200 Like, that's breaking, breaking, breaking.

00:21:27.080 So that's cool.

00:21:28.260 So people are stepping up.

00:21:32.880 Yeah, and actually, I like the kind of, like, it's not a single organization that's leading it.

00:21:38.200 It's a lot of individual voices that, you know, they're all moving to the same direction.

00:21:42.580 I think it's a little bit.

00:21:44.020 Well, even our boss, right?

00:21:45.420 Even Derek stepped up a little bit, right?

00:21:47.360 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:47.720 I mean, his challenge out to.

00:21:48.940 Oh, Thomas Lukasik. Yeah, I actually wrote a column about that. I would like and I don't I don't want to be too critical of Mr. Lukasik. But I think the issue that he has is that he actually doesn't have solutions. Like he recognizes the grievances and then he just stops. You know what I mean? And I think that's part of the problem that the Federalists have right now is the fact that they like what are the arguments for saying?

00:22:13.080 I mean, he's not the only one. I mean, you know, honestly, I even threw out that comment, a similar comment to Daniel Smith. I mean, Daniel Smith was in or Pierre Poiliev who came here last week. I'm like, that's great. You've come here preaching unity. And apparently, you know, the problem. I'm like, we have some of the solutions. Here's some of the solutions. Are you ready to cancel the equalization? Are you ready to redistribute the seats? Are you ready to allow us to select our own judges? And then it's quiet.

00:22:40.920 Yeah, I think that's the issue that they're running into is these are real, like we're not talking about policy decisions. Yes, the policy decisions drive a lot of the anger, but the anger comes from somewhere and it comes from the structural deficiencies in confederation.

00:22:53.920 We have 37 seats out of the 343 in the House of Commons.

00:22:58.400 We contribute, on average, 15% of all federal taxes collected come from Albertans,

00:23:03.800 Albertan companies, and Albertan individuals.

00:23:05.960 And yet the federal government only sends us back our share of the population.

00:23:09.080 So we get about 10.5% of all federal funding.

00:23:12.780 So you've got to think about this.

00:23:14.020 Every $15 you send to Ottawa on taxes,

00:23:18.020 you only get back 10.5% in funding for social programs like health care.

00:23:22.120 And even when you get it back, it comes back with conditions.

00:23:25.440 Yeah. And all the while, they're bringing policies in that are designed to shut down our major energy industry, the things that drive the economic growth.

00:23:35.420 So, I mean, yes, Carney has moved a lot, but I don't think the MOU properly captures it.

00:23:41.300 I think they're effectively, what the MOU is, is Kearney's giving us 5% of what we want, and if that, and we're acting as if this is going to save the whole thing.

00:23:52.940 Again, I don't think that's the case.

00:23:54.480 I think it's driving a lot of the anger, and I think it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

00:24:00.080 But the Tabor situation is very interesting.

00:24:02.380 Yeah, yeah, it is.

00:24:03.180 Absolutely.

00:24:04.000 Listen, I appreciate you jumping in.

00:24:06.180 Are you willing to jump?

00:24:07.300 I'm pointing to a friend over there.

00:24:08.800 Do you want to come on?

00:24:08.980 Yes, she de-drives.

00:24:10.280 Okay, we're going to, oh yeah, I know Dieter very well.

00:24:13.360 Yeah, you can take my mic and come on the air.

00:24:16.920 Just right here.

00:24:19.320 Yep, that's fine.

00:24:21.820 Thanks, Josh.

00:24:23.600 You can't hear yourself, but does she sound good?

00:24:26.380 She's okay?

00:24:27.340 Can I put you on the spot and explain our relationship, our unique relationship?

00:24:32.440 Okay, let's do it.

00:24:34.140 Let's go there.

00:24:34.940 That'll help me fill Josh's big shoes here.

00:24:37.400 Now I'll have like a legit connection tomorrow.

00:24:39.920 So we're both members of the Liberal Party.

00:24:44.300 And during the leadership debate,

00:24:48.220 Kearney came to Calgary to hold down or to closer.

00:24:55.340 So during the leadership debate, Kearney came to Calgary twice.

00:24:59.200 Now, the security to get into a Kearney event,

00:25:01.520 even for members of the party, was tough, right?

00:25:05.780 And I tried getting in a couple of times.

00:25:07.680 They wouldn't let me in.

00:25:08.620 as soon as they'd see me they canceled me and so all i kept doing is trying to find somebody in the

00:25:13.740 security who didn't know me and eventually ran across deidra and she she had registered two

00:25:20.220 people yeah her husband yeah who couldn't make it so i got passed off as her husband and we

00:25:26.220 eventually got in that was funny that was a good day yeah yeah it was yeah it was it was fun it

00:25:31.820 It was good to get in there, hear what happened.

00:25:35.480 Definitely the highest security political event

00:25:38.960 I think I've ever been to.

00:25:41.120 I've never been, I imagine a true,

00:25:42.660 I imagine a carny one now would be really, really,

00:25:46.640 really tight security. 0.86

00:25:47.540 And contrasting that, did you have the opportunity

00:25:50.060 to go to Polyev events during that period?

00:25:52.660 I didn't, no, I actually would have liked to.

00:25:55.360 I heard some pretty good things that they were large,

00:25:58.160 but they were fairly well run.

00:26:00.340 They weren't quite efficient because we must have stood in line for close to an hour.

00:26:04.000 Barely any security for Poilier, right?

00:26:06.320 You just showed up.

00:26:07.260 They opened the door.

00:26:08.000 Everybody went in.

00:26:08.660 They did the usual.

00:26:09.500 Check your bag.

00:26:10.220 Make sure you're...

00:26:10.980 But they weren't stopping people, right?

00:26:13.700 Like, I know I felt I was being stopped on purpose.

00:26:17.340 I remember why Claypool and a few other people were being stopped at the time.

00:26:20.720 We watched the police block him, like physically block him from moving forward to get anywhere near the event, which seemed a little bit excessive.

00:26:29.800 So are you an exhibitor here today? What brought you to the show this week?

00:26:34.000 No, I'm not an exhibitor. I am just an attendee.

00:26:37.500 I was just at the Careers in Energy National Jobs Report.

00:26:42.680 They just released their report for energy-related jobs out to 2035.

00:26:47.820 So I wanted to hear what the forecast was, what's the outlook, and it's really positive.

00:26:53.640 So what would you say to a young person who's considering a career in the oil patch or the energy sector?

00:26:59.800 do you call it the oil patch still or do you call it the energy sector well i'm going to call it the

00:27:03.800 energy sector because that's what the report was about they don't limit simply to oil and gas right

00:27:09.080 so it's you know it really is everything from hydrogen to biofuels to uh well they didn't

00:27:16.360 talk about renewables so much but you know it's all of that and i think we are moving to a more

00:27:22.120 diverse energy mix and so I call it the energy sector but the reality is the

00:27:29.440 majority of the jobs current and future are still going to be in traditional

00:27:34.420 energy meaning oil and gas yeah and I mean to me that's you know you talk

00:27:40.600 about the reality the reality is the reality the reality is we live in a

00:27:45.320 country we live in a world with how many billions of people who want energy and

00:27:50.200 And who has that energy?

00:27:52.180 Yeah, it's reliable and it's transportable as well.

00:27:56.400 I mean, oil, obviously, in its sort of oily form is transportable.

00:28:01.980 Stick it on a tanker, you can move it.

00:28:04.600 Now that we have LNG.

00:28:05.320 As long as it's not trying to go through the Strait of Hormuz this week, but that's a different issue.

00:28:09.300 Yeah, that's not a function of the properties of oil.

00:28:14.000 And now with liquefied natural gas, we're able to move natural gas around the globe as well.

00:28:19.580 So those certain properties are incredibly important.

00:28:24.300 You cannot move wind and solar in a tank or across the ocean.

00:28:29.120 You can store it temporarily in a battery, but even when you store it, it's a big effort.

00:28:34.760 So generally, did you come here every day or just today?

00:28:39.580 I came here on the opening day for Avatar Innovations and BBA Consulting.

00:28:46.420 That's who you're doing work for right now these days?

00:28:48.360 Yeah, they hosted an event showcasing some of the young innovators who have some solutions to future energy, current and future energy challenges.

00:29:00.000 So we're really trying to showcase the value of innovation within the energy sector.

00:29:06.680 And, you know, again, I'll say energy in this case because one of the innovators, problem solvers, she has a little company that recycles the great big tires used in mining equipment.

00:29:24.300 So that could be for oil pans.

00:29:26.040 It could be for, you know, what we think of as more traditional mining like, you know, cobalt, silver, gold, et cetera.

00:29:34.220 us. So the message here is positive. You're spreading a positive message for others. We

00:29:41.120 both, I think, are on the same page. Our industry is important. Alberta's contribution to the world

00:29:46.840 is important. Have you had a chance to talk to people, say, in Eastern Canada? Are they shifting

00:29:52.980 their thought? I mean, I'm looking over my shoulder here. We're at the Western Standard.

00:29:56.660 We've been making fun of Stephen Gilbeau, who was like, you know, really into this net zero

00:30:02.000 and and green future do you sense a shift did he leave on purpose because he was sensing a shift

00:30:08.660 or well i think why he left is probably multifaceted and i'm not going to pretend to be

00:30:15.740 able to get into his mind yeah but i do think that there is a shift towards what i'm calling

00:30:21.100 energy realism okay so there's a there is a hard reality that when you are struggling to pay your

00:30:28.360 bills i think um luxury uh considerations or luxury beliefs like net zero go out the window

00:30:38.440 and so having access to affordable reliable energy becomes really important what did you call it

00:30:44.140 energy realism okay i like that because i use the same i'm losing my earpiece actually i don't think

00:30:50.040 it matters i use the same sort of uh concept you know to me ideology versus reality at the end of

00:30:56.520 the day reality trumps a lot of things, right? We, we, we can all be, uh, we, yeah, sure. We'd all

00:31:01.640 like to, to be, uh, saving the planet and, and, and whatever doing solar. But at the end of the

00:31:10.440 day, you got to drive your kids to soccer and your, your, your car that gets you there on gas

00:31:17.640 is, uh, is your reality. Yeah. And I don't think that anybody in the oil and gas industry,

00:31:23.160 or certainly no one i know is just like you know burn it all down chop it all down like just

00:31:28.200 destroy i think most of us i'm sure you agree with me we're very conservation conscious we're

00:31:35.320 environmental like we go out hiking we we live in the environment i get we work in i get called a

00:31:41.640 hypocrite by my own community i've been i'm in sort of two communities i'm in the oil and gas

00:31:46.040 community but i am also in like you or like you mentioned i am in the hiking outdoor community 0.99

00:31:51.720 and sometimes people will find that out that I work in New Alpesh and they'll say you're a hypocrite

00:31:57.000 I'm like no no no no no oh quite the contrary I acknowledge that as a person I have an impact on

00:32:03.340 the environment but I also want to minimize it and enjoy the environment but at the same time I need

00:32:08.440 to heat my house yeah absolutely and I think if we want to go back to the careers and energy job 0.99

00:32:15.900 report because I really actually think this is very important we have to encourage more young

00:32:19.920 people to get into the industry. It's getting older. There are a number of expected retirees

00:32:27.240 in the very near future. They've estimated about 54,000 people will retire out of the industry.

00:32:35.580 And so we need young people to come in. And if oil and gas is demonized, those kids don't want

00:32:43.220 to come work in the industry. And so we have to make sure that we're presenting a fact-based

00:32:48.960 energy realistic impression of the industry and there are good paying jobs those jobs pay basically

00:32:56.560 yeah what is it two and a half times yeah yeah so the data is out there and we we need i i experienced

00:33:04.120 that personally i have three sons that went into the oil patch and and they all told me the same

00:33:09.400 story that when they went in there early on there were people that told them they were making a

00:33:13.480 mistake absolutely and then they graduated they work for cnrl they work for other actually one

00:33:18.220 doesn't work for CNRL. One works for an adjacent industry, works for the rail industry, which is

00:33:25.160 booming, by the way, because of, yeah. Well, yeah, it runs on oil and gas and it transports it too,

00:33:32.720 right? So, yeah. Are you brave enough to tackle some of my other topics here or you want to talk

00:33:39.180 about the announcement yesterday that they want to ban children under the age of 16 from

00:33:48.920 accessing the internet. I don't need to put you on the spot. I have a lot of opinions on

00:33:55.300 political current affairs, but I try to stay focused on energy. I think if we can keep that

00:34:01.640 apolitical, non-partisan, I think that's great. Let's go with Kuzma. Give me your stance on that.

00:34:08.000 Did you see the Donald Trump sort of quick speech from the Oval Office

00:34:13.080 where he was saying he's not interested in renewing it?

00:34:16.760 Well, he's been back and forth.

00:34:18.560 Honestly, I've sort of stopped paying minute by minute attention to it

00:34:23.540 because I feel like it flip-flops quite regularly.

00:34:28.400 I would like to see both sides work a little more collaboratively, diplomatically.

00:34:35.560 There's a bit of egos at this point, right?

00:34:37.620 like they're both uh we could both tamp it down yeah um it's gonna be i think in the best interest

00:34:43.860 of both parties to come to some sort of mutual agreement and and i mean you've worked in

00:34:49.780 negotiations you know that you have to give and think right oh it was give and take or uh also

00:34:56.740 the concept of win-win right i mean you like you know what's in it for me what's in it for you and

00:35:01.300 we can find a common ground um but i you know i've i laugh at the people that are simply opposed to us

00:35:10.340 doing business with the americans at this point i think that's a completely unrealistic right

00:35:16.100 geographically it just makes sense and it makes sense because they are a very large economy they

00:35:22.100 they are a very successful economy yeah so part of our success is because of them and it's mutual

00:35:29.380 Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's one comment that Trump makes all the time. He made it again in the White

00:35:34.260 House the other day. You know, he's upset about the trade imbalance and how it favors us. But I

00:35:39.460 think, I would say to Donald, it's pretty much going to favor us all the time. I mean, you're

00:35:44.420 10 times larger than us. So the odds of us buying less from you is just, you know.

00:35:52.900 Well, and I think if we just talk about oil and gas, I mean, I think they benefit from that as

00:35:58.420 well lying and she's like sometimes selling it back to us for more money i mean so i think there's

00:36:04.660 um emotional rhetoric on both sides and i would like to see it tamped down for the good of you

00:36:12.420 know just the general good of both of our populations for the long run now maybe it

00:36:18.740 doesn't get renegotiated by my understanding is if it doesn't get renegotiated this year there's

00:36:23.780 still some sort of 10-year window it's a weird it's a weird uh yeah the deal was signed in 2020

00:36:29.780 expires in 2036 so it's a 16-year deal if we don't what what's happening on july 1st is an

00:36:37.060 opportunity to renegotiate and extend it if we don't renegotiate then it just it stays as it

00:36:44.660 stays as is but the the wild card could be any party any of the three parties could um opt out

00:36:52.580 of it by giving a written notice kind of thing to give a six-month notice right

00:36:57.980 so and we don't know who gets into the White House term right I mean it could

00:37:04.220 be better it could be worse we just don't know but again I think we have

00:37:09.980 there's a bit of realism that has to come into play here we have to accept

00:37:14.000 that this is our largest trading corner and it's going to be for the first year

00:37:17.720 yeah and so both sides are going to have to awesome well thanks for joining me I

00:37:25.580 got a couple of people here I think I mean my next topic is guns unless you

00:37:29.820 want to talk about guns I know nothing you know nothing about guns all right

00:37:33.320 folks yeah Mac are you coming on for a few minutes awesome all right D thank

00:37:38.240 Deirdre thanks for yeah you take care I got a look at my watch I don't have my

00:37:52.000 prompter we're good we got lots of time maybe we'll do a 90-minute show today

00:37:58.680 Mac how's it going man so Mac I know is a longtime listener he's called in before

00:38:04.640 John will just double check, make sure you're in the shot and everything's good.

00:38:08.820 We're all good, John.

00:38:10.220 So what brings you here, bud?

00:38:11.700 Are you exhibiting?

00:38:12.720 No, no, no.

00:38:13.280 I'm just here to network, meet people.

00:38:16.100 It's for business.

00:38:17.240 But I had to come down and see you, Marty, because I tried calling in.

00:38:20.460 Didn't want to leave you hanging.

00:38:23.960 Give us, without getting into huge detail, give us a background.

00:38:27.080 You're an Albertan.

00:38:27.900 You were familiar with the oil patch?

00:38:29.740 Born and raised in Alberta.

00:38:31.680 I grew up in St. Albert.

00:38:33.800 A lot of my friends went up to going through, mostly going through, Fox Vegas.

00:38:38.640 I know you were talking about that earlier, but that's what we called it.

00:38:41.460 Yeah.

00:38:41.720 We didn't call it.

00:38:42.380 My wife thought I was joking, right? 0.51

00:38:43.920 And my wife should have known better.

00:38:46.660 I met my wife in Edson, right?

00:38:48.020 Which is just like an hour south of, and the first time I mentioned Fox Vegas, she's like, nobody calls it that.

00:38:54.000 I'm like, honey, everybody calls it that.

00:38:56.340 Me and all my friends called me that.

00:38:58.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:58.580 Fox Vegas because it's one strip.

00:39:00.420 So it's one of those towns where if you spend enough time in the oil patch, you will eventually do a bit of work.

00:39:08.660 Either you'll live there or you will work there or whatever.

00:39:11.980 Or you'll have to drive through that.

00:39:13.140 Or you'll have to drive through it, right?

00:39:14.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:16.540 Yeah, awesome, awesome.

00:39:18.140 So, all right, well, let's pretend we're calling in.

00:39:21.440 These are the topics I had right now.

00:39:23.540 Oh, man.

00:39:24.320 Are you brave enough?

00:39:25.940 Well, I'll give you a choice. 0.96

00:39:27.360 Do you want to talk C9 or do you want to talk about the gun ban amnesty?

00:39:30.420 Are you a gun owner or is it not really your thing?

00:39:32.900 Yeah, I love guns.

00:39:34.160 Okay.

00:39:34.480 I love guns.

00:39:35.420 I think that bad things happen.

00:39:37.620 We talked about this, actually.

00:39:39.260 Bad things happen when governments take away guns from legal gun owners.

00:39:43.960 And they don't do anything about the guns on the street that are actually cards in harm.

00:39:48.080 So are you familiar with what happened yesterday?

00:39:50.500 Yes.

00:39:51.100 Maybe you are, but I'll repeat it for the folks listening, right?

00:39:54.700 So starting in about 2022, there's been three different orders in council banning various firearms.

00:40:05.220 So basically, AR-15, semi-automatics with large capacity, lots of guns have been banned.

00:40:14.140 And as far as we know, and I'm one of those guys, I have a banned firearm.

00:40:20.100 Full disclosure, I don't care.

00:40:22.220 They already know about it, right?

00:40:23.800 the government knows i have this ar-15 but when they passed this order in council they didn't tell

00:40:28.040 us what to do with the guns they just said hold on to it keep it in your locker can't use it anywhere

00:40:34.360 okay so we've been complying with it and they also promised us that at some point they would either

00:40:39.720 buy them from us or compensate us for it but um but they keep extending and and technically once

00:40:47.320 the gun ban came into order if i still own this gun i'm in violation of a law and in this case

00:40:55.160 it's a federal law right so basically i'm a i'm a i'm owning a not a a gun that's been banned

00:41:02.120 but now so that's where the government passed the amnesty they're like we're not going to prosecute

00:41:07.320 you until we figure out what to do and they keep extending the amnesty and extending it and

00:41:11.960 And yesterday, the Liberals extended it again.

00:41:15.600 And this time they're extending it to, this is weird, but they're extended it to 90 days after the Supreme Court hears a case on this.

00:41:26.200 So somebody's taken the federal government to court claiming that the ban is illegal, and I agree with it.

00:41:32.260 But the court won't be able to rule on that until probably later next year.

00:41:37.380 So at this point, the Liberals have extended the ban.

00:41:41.020 i think they should just cancel it kick the can down the road kind of like the referendum on

00:41:44.860 independence but in any case yeah it's it's maddening and it's maddening as a citizen to

00:41:52.060 watch the incompetence it just really is like we have smart people here in canada why don't they

00:41:58.220 run for office probably because they're not criminals probably because they have ethics

00:42:02.380 probably because they have morals probably because they have honor yeah but what do we

00:42:07.100 We got the people that lack all of those things. 0.97

00:42:09.740 And that's who was, I mean, come on, Jolie, give her an IQ test.

00:42:14.300 Please.

00:42:15.240 We had Jolie.

00:42:16.180 Well, we have this guy.

00:42:17.260 We can't see him right now.

00:42:18.700 He's turned around.

00:42:19.500 Maybe somebody can bring Stephen Gilbo and put him behind us.

00:42:22.960 But yeah, no, it's, I mean, and that's, there's no, there's no easy.

00:42:27.200 I mean, I've been asked that question many times.

00:42:29.140 Why don't you run for government?

00:42:30.340 And my general sort of quirky answer is because I have a brain and because I have

00:42:36.980 morals right I mean I find I find the business of politics distasteful these days but and there's

00:42:47.540 been people who said you know we should say hey Steven how you doing buddy hey Steve looking

00:42:52.700 horrible up there apparently apparently he doesn't like being uh mocked oh too bad yeah well you made

00:43:00.960 your bed buddy well yeah how do you how do you if you don't want to be mocked what would you say to

00:43:04.740 politician well i would say don't be mockable don't be mockable do your job yeah be be smart

00:43:09.700 be smart don't make don't make lampoonish comments or else you're going to get those are his exact

00:43:14.740 words actually he doesn't like being lampoon so too bad he deserves it he deserves more of it

00:43:20.020 thought yourself of running for politics small town easy to get in actually my i have family that

00:43:26.180 had been in government worked for i had a stepmom who worked for five different premiers of alberta

00:43:32.420 oh wow yeah so she was right up there she found a family day do you think uh what would she uh

00:43:39.300 five different premiers were they a long long time ago and we also have t-shirts for ralph

00:43:43.620 klein would ralph have been one of those you know the last one that she worked for was

00:43:47.860 well it wasn't a premier but it was stockwell day on his national campaign oh okay yeah for

00:43:53.220 prime minister no i made the you're making me think of something uh we in alberta we've been

00:43:58.740 tough on premiers for the last two decades it's like very few premiers have ended a full term

00:44:05.660 right i mean we basically uh uh ed stelmac uh we had klein then we had ed stelmac stelmac barely

00:44:13.100 did a term and then we're like no you're done and he was replaced by allison redford we're like well

00:44:17.580 that's an even bigger mistake you're done i liked king ralph i did we all did i liked king ralph

00:44:23.200 because he was a no bullshit kind of guy yeah um i'm just well that's why he's that's why he's so

00:44:29.180 well captured in that t-shirt that t-shirt is uh what what is his famous quote uh went to central 0.93

00:44:34.180 albertan right there is ralph klein yeah let them let those bombs i get i get in trouble job i get

00:44:40.700 in trouble for saying the same thing ralph has said many times and we've all thought about this 0.95

00:44:44.100 right we've all thought of uh shutting down the valves and closing and letting those eastern bums

00:44:49.900 freeze in the dark. That's right. And I don't want to do it to hurt anyone, right?

00:44:53.980 Because it's not the population. It's the government.

00:44:57.420 And I'll give you guys two weeks, right? You've got two weeks. Go cut some firewood,

00:45:01.580 go install your solar panels. And then fair warning, we're turning off the gas. Good luck

00:45:06.380 staying warm with just your solar energy. And you'll be net zero. So it's a bonus. You win.

00:45:11.340 Yeah. You should be thanking us if we do that. Exactly. Just like when we separate. I mean,

00:45:16.060 I mean, you've got to be celebrating the net zero law.

00:45:19.020 It's not Alberta's fault anymore.

00:45:20.760 I didn't see a lot of net zero around here.

00:45:22.680 Did you tour a show a little bit to the year?

00:45:24.780 I looked around.

00:45:25.260 They got carbon capture and they got methane emissions and how to restrict it. 0.91

00:45:30.440 Anyways, but I think it's all ridiculous. 1.00

00:45:33.560 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:45:34.340 I mean, every single country that has gone net zero lunacy has gone broke. 1.00

00:45:39.600 They're just getting poor.

00:45:41.200 so for me the future of canada looks like poverty misery and corruption and the future of alberta

00:45:48.180 looks like happiness prosperity and abundance like that's what it looks like to me very basic

00:45:54.400 so i i i met you uh we we talked online but i met you at a uh petition signing event which one was

00:46:01.900 that that was that was the one on uh the blue mile by westbrook yeah yeah so so blue miles are still

00:46:06.600 going on there's uh sort of small uh variations on that are you up to speed on the um on the um

00:46:14.680 controversy in taber oh yeah i've donated as soon as he said he was putting up a third billboard

00:46:19.080 yeah i sent him money okay and same with james levine as soon as he said he was going to put

00:46:22.680 go boards around the edmonton legislature i sent him money and you know what that's how i'm going

00:46:27.560 to support this movement and and also talk to anybody i can about this is the vote of our

00:46:33.880 lifetimes yeah and the first one that actually really would count in our life because all of

00:46:39.640 our federal votes didn't matter never did and never will i actually got around to putting up

00:46:45.320 an alberta flag on my property finally and uh at first i was like where do i put it you know do i

00:46:52.120 put it on the side do i put it closer to the back and then i'm like nope nope nope nope if this

00:46:57.400 effect i don't think it'll offend anybody in my neighborhood but at the end of the day i'm like

00:47:01.400 Like if somebody is offended by the fact that I'm flying an Alberta flag and maybe it'll force a discussion.

00:47:06.880 So I ended, so I put it right on the front, right on the front corner by the mailbox.

00:47:12.300 Absolutely.

00:47:12.980 I mean, we got to be bold, have courage.

00:47:17.420 In order to win this thing, I believe we need to be bold.

00:47:20.680 We have to have courage.

00:47:21.500 We have to have hard, honest conversations.

00:47:24.420 We don't have to be trying to cancel people like the left us.

00:47:27.860 Yeah.

00:47:28.060 Go, listen, I don't want it for me.

00:47:30.540 I want it for you, too.

00:47:32.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:32.720 Did you see last week I was, I went to Banff last week.

00:47:36.400 You've been to Banff, right?

00:47:37.480 When you drive to Banff, you go by Lac des Arts.

00:47:40.160 There's that little island by the cement plant.

00:47:43.020 I went by there and there was no flag on it anymore.

00:47:46.600 So I just issued a challenge and.

00:47:49.920 Did we get up?

00:47:50.880 I'm up there?

00:47:51.440 Andrew got up there pretty darn quick.

00:47:54.300 Somebody got up there and put out an Alberta flag.

00:47:56.160 But then I was disappointed to hear yesterday that somebody went and put a Canadian flag, but they took down the Alberta flag.

00:48:03.920 And there's no need to do that.

00:48:05.160 If somebody wanted to go put a second flag, you could put the two up there.

00:48:08.500 You don't need to remove ours.

00:48:11.420 But we're going to see how this goes all summer long.

00:48:13.900 I have a feeling I'm going to organize some more missions out there.

00:48:18.240 Yeah, I'm concerned with getting tribal and with people remembering what Canada once was, which is nowhere near what it is today.

00:48:28.540 I mean, today we have, we're looking at, not freedom, that's for sure.

00:48:34.320 And when it comes to flags, it's a little bit sad, right?

00:48:36.480 I mean, remember how proud we were during like the Coutts protests and things like that?

00:48:41.280 We all had our Canadian flags all of a sudden.

00:48:43.120 And I wish I could still be proud of it like we were, but hey, let's get off this topic.

00:48:49.380 I mean, you know, what am I doing for time here?

00:48:52.800 I got a few minutes, but let's tackle one more because I got time to tackle it.

00:48:57.440 Actually, a lot of people wouldn't have talked about this one, but did you see Trudeau on the news yesterday on the red carpet, the red mile?

00:49:05.180 I did not see him on the red mile.

00:49:06.420 Okay, then don't worry about it because some people are saying he's living his best life.

00:49:10.640 Well, I'll tell you what he did.

00:49:11.700 I don't know. He was at a festival somewhere with his new girlfriend, Katy Perry.

00:49:19.160 And then, you know, he's walking there and you can see him. 0.97

00:49:24.340 He's running his hand up and down her butt in public. 0.90

00:49:28.700 And people are like, well, let him live the best years of his life. 0.98

00:49:31.780 I'm like, you know what? No, I'm not going.

00:49:35.620 You know what? The guy pretended to be claimed to be a feminist, claimed all these things. 1.00

00:49:40.260 and now he's doing that and plus he's still supposed to represent us even though he's

00:49:46.180 retired and i'm paying for his pension so maybe maybe smarten up and behave yeah well

00:49:53.700 no i would love to see him in jail myself yeah i mean for what he did during covet i mean if we had

00:50:00.740 the top tier of our intelligence and rcmp leadership removed due to incompetence and kowtowing

00:50:10.260 politicians i would like to see somebody up at the top there with a backbone and go hey man what you

00:50:16.340 did was illegal you're going to jail and we got to set an example of you so that no other prime

00:50:22.100 minister does this in the future if i'm sorry yeah no i agree i mean we we we haven't had a

00:50:27.540 politician go to jail in this country in forever i don't you know gotta happen and and and if it

00:50:32.420 was going to be one i don't think it's true though i i mean he probably deserves it more than anybody

00:50:37.220 else but the guy's the teflon don right nothing sticks to him i don't know how many scandals did

00:50:41.540 you get away with martin how did he do it all of them all of them but how i mean i thought we lived

00:50:46.740 in a country of lawn or my i mean the one for me the one that he got away with that always surprised

00:50:53.140 me was remember that interview where um uh one of our veterans stood up and and and had the courage

00:50:59.700 to talk to judo and said you know i'm having to fight my government like the guy was a veteran

00:51:04.580 who i i think had lost a leg right and then trudeau said you're asking for more than we

00:51:09.780 oh the veterans veterans i remember that and and i thought oh my god you just you just sewered

00:51:15.540 yourself right there right you just literally and nope it didn't even stick and then when that

00:51:20.020 didn't stick to him i was like okay well nothing will stick to this guy and they're sending money

00:51:24.260 all over the world i mean for what is well sending it all over the world and locally i mean there was

00:51:30.580 The Parliamentary Budget Officer released a report yesterday.

00:51:36.060 Actually, let's wrap it up with this.

00:51:39.640 Carney announced that he was all proud.

00:51:43.080 It's the FIFA World Cup, the Soccer World Cup.

00:51:45.480 There's going to be 13 games played in Canada.

00:51:47.400 I think it's like six in Vancouver and seven in Toronto.

00:51:51.220 The PBO said it's a billion bucks.

00:51:53.640 Ottawa's spending a billion bucks.

00:51:55.180 so on a per game basis

00:51:57.540 we're spending 82 million dollars

00:51:59.660 I saw that number

00:52:01.560 and you and I can't afford the tickets

00:52:02.920 500 bucks a piece I saw

00:52:04.840 we can't afford the tickets

00:52:05.800 well I'm going number one

00:52:07.760 I'm only interested in hockey, baseball and football

00:52:10.400 so soccer is not my thing

00:52:13.120 but even then would you support

00:52:14.920 even though you love hockey

00:52:17.660 would you let Ottawa

00:52:19.180 dump a billion dollars a year into hockey

00:52:22.140 well no there's no return on that

00:52:24.140 yeah not for the country not for people there's no return if and if people are at the food banks

00:52:30.140 and lining up around the block and you're having to send out money on enhanced gst checks so people 0.95

00:52:36.380 can afford to eat they're rebranded right they're not even called gst checks anymore that's the

00:52:41.740 by the way i i it's at four o'clock it's already happening i wish i could go and find out what the

00:52:48.060 announcement is because at four o'clock today eastern time uh carney was announcing a new um

00:52:55.580 new measures to make food affordable for canadians i'm looking forward to hear what that measure is

00:53:00.540 i have a feeling it's going to be uh government malls government crown corporation called uh

00:53:06.060 canada foods or something running the same model as canada post we all know how efficient that uh

00:53:11.580 model was right uh uh listen uh mac thanks for joining man it's awesome i the the the clock is

00:53:19.100 running out here how many minutes have i got uh five minutes okay yeah yeah cheers thanks barney

00:53:25.660 uh didn't get a lot of calls but i think this format worked okay or did we get calls john and

00:53:30.220 we just didn't uh didn't take them uh i'm not taking them he was do you have a call now no

00:53:37.660 you'll take the next call if there's another call all right so let me just go real quick so uh

00:53:44.140 talked about okay well let's talk about the last one that was on my list of things to talk about

00:53:48.780 um which was yesterday's announcement a new bill in the house of commons we knew this one was

00:53:55.740 coming right i think it's c34 33 or 34 but uh mark miller the minister of uh i don't know if it's

00:54:03.100 social services or whatever announced that the liberals are trying to uh okay i'll finish that

00:54:10.700 one real quick i got one last call on the line go ahead caller where are you calling from please

00:54:21.740 i can't hear anything john

00:54:30.380 try it again caller

00:54:34.060 hello go ahead yeah i can hear you

00:54:38.460 hello yeah go ahead what's on your mind okay okay okay fantastic so they put me back on

00:54:47.740 okay okay so my question can you hear me yes

00:54:54.220 okay so my question is is the western standard are they financed by the government

00:55:01.020 No, no, no, no. I mean, Western Standard is a private, small news organization funded by, I mean, I have to be careful here.

00:55:18.300 Like almost any organization in this country, there are tax credit.

00:55:23.780 There are things available to multiple businesses that any business can take advantage of.

00:55:29.740 But fundamentally, the Western Standard is subscriber-driven.

00:55:33.860 In fact, you can see it on the screen right there.

00:55:36.100 If people want to subscribe, it's $10 a month.

00:55:39.760 We're running a promo right now, $100 a month.

00:55:42.220 And if you do it right now, we'll send you, is it a T-shirt or a coffee mug?

00:55:48.300 coffee mug thanks for calling no all right thank you okay so um all right well i'm running out of

00:55:58.020 time i want maybe i'll bring this one up next week it'll be bigger news next week so the liberals

00:56:02.540 right now are are they're hell-bent on censorship right they're hell-bent on censorship and uh c9

00:56:09.840 all these other bills but the the newest one yesterday is c34 and they're going to try to ban

00:56:15.820 children under the age of 16 from having access to social media. And they're, of course,

00:56:21.480 are saying it, it's all for their security. I think there's enough laws right now. If a parent

00:56:26.980 doesn't want their kid on social media, the parents have all the tools necessary to do it.

00:56:31.160 If you just ask, anyways, I think this is a hidden attempt, again, at censorship. And it's

00:56:40.800 also a hidden attempt at more digital uh ids right so if you're if you're forcing kids to if

00:56:51.380 you're forcing people under the age of c or over the age of 16 to identify so that they can access

00:56:57.420 social media you're basically forcing people adults to identify themselves so i don't like this law

00:57:02.860 and i also i wanted to add this one weird thing um the liberals in their own constitution you can

00:57:10.040 be a member of the Liberal Party if you're 14 years old. So 14-year-old is good enough to be

00:57:16.960 a member of the Liberal Party, good enough to vote in their candidate nominations, good enough

00:57:22.060 to vote for the leader. If you're 14 years old and a member of the Liberal Party, you could have

00:57:26.520 voted for Carney in his leadership race. But now the Liberals want to say, no, you're not mature

00:57:31.700 enough to have access to social media. I think this is a, I don't think it'll go anywhere, but

00:57:36.860 it does kind of expose that these

00:57:38.860 liberals are for

00:57:40.780 whatever reason they're hell bent on censorship

00:57:42.920 these days and I think we all know why

00:57:44.820 alright cool

00:57:46.880 so I appreciate the

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00:58:04.840 uh we'll be back i imagine next week back in studio the week after that i won't be in studio

00:58:11.300 i will miss one week i'm going on that hike as many of you know but uh uh anyways thanks for

00:58:17.460 joining me join me again next week same time 1 p.m uh here at the western standard marty saying

00:58:22.580 cheers have a great weekend everyone

00:58:34.840 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - June 15, 2026

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