On this episode of the Marty Up North Show, Marty talks about the Women's World Cup of hockey, the Canadian Women's National Team's Gold Medalist, and why he thinks Alex Poiliev is going to win or lose the election.
00:00:28.700hey we're live for my second installment here of the marty up north show here at the western
00:00:34.800standard uh thanks for joining um you know you got many of you uh saw my show last week i think
00:00:42.380you you know some of you probably sensed that i was a little bit nervous and i was you know it's
00:00:47.440a new show for me uh i'm not new i mean i'm not new to talking right i do a lot of talking it's
00:00:52.280one of the things i love doing a lot of a lot of texting but um this format is new for me especially
00:00:58.600having a a wonderful producer so i got john in the studio with me and john's coordinating the
00:01:04.760chats and everything else so um and and i just want to repeat a little bit what we're trying to
00:01:09.800do right so you guys know me uh i'm not a i'm not a journalist right i'm not a guy who investigates
00:01:15.960stories i'm a guy who reads a lot of stories all day long i'm retired so that's one of the things
00:01:21.400i got you know i'm lucky i can do that i get up in the morning and i start reading stories
00:01:25.400and i like to comment on stories and that's what we're bringing out here for you folks i'm bringing
00:01:31.140my show out here on the western standard and i and and we're doing it in as an interactive uh
00:01:36.760show you know i'm going to talk a bunch but i also want to take your guys's calls
00:01:41.300and uh and and have some dialogue and and on that just specifically um you know again we're we're
00:01:49.120getting set up with the call-in process and we got a couple of little bugs to work out i didn't know
00:01:54.520this was happening last week but apparently when you guys call right now it's not like we have a
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00:02:04.240basically when you guys are calling uh john is putting you in queue but we can only take one
00:02:10.200call at a time so when i'm done talking with somebody he has to literally pick up the phone
00:02:15.720so we'll work out those bugs don't don't stress about that too much but you see the number down
00:02:20.120below uh so so call in um yeah so you know uh happy to be in this slot tough slot to be in today
00:02:29.240right today uh being on one o'clock in this slot today i'm competing against uh the ladies in uh0.99
00:02:35.240hockey the uh women's uh uh gold medal game is going on in italy right now and uh i actually
00:02:42.360have no idea how it's going last time i looked just before i got into the studio it was one
00:02:46.520nothing for Canada we had a shorthanded goal so you know go ladies go quick story on that actually
00:02:53.140I want to tell you a quick story I went to high school in Ontario I graduated in 1985 and when
00:02:59.240I was a kid in high school I played hockey I played hockey past high school you know I even
00:03:05.920coached but but in high school I had a phys ed teacher named Marion Covney and she used to teach0.99
00:03:14.540as phys ed but she coached my guys hockey team that i was on and she was a phenomenal player0.94
00:03:20.120and marion coveney we knew her as as miss coveney she went on to be actually the first captain of
00:03:27.400canada's um women's national team in international competition so she became the first captain
00:03:34.320of women of team canada in 1987 so uh just uh just a weird coincidence just wanted to put her
00:03:41.520out there unfortunately uh ms coveney as i always knew her passed away after about of uh a long a0.80
00:03:49.520battle with cancer about three years ago but anyways uh whenever i watch women's hockey i
00:03:54.160think about her um so you saw the title of the show today definitely want to talk a bit about
00:03:59.680you know the topics that are current and and for me this week my twitter feed it's all about the
00:04:04.720floor crossing um and and and you saw the title you know is is poiliev winning or losing alberta
00:04:13.120uh we and and so let you know let's just dive into that i mean um you know a couple of days
00:04:19.840ago poiliev was pierre poiliev mr poiliev the leader of the opposition was kind of put on the
00:04:25.920spot in a scrum and he was asked you know are there any separatists in your party and he clearly
00:04:32.960articulated that no there are no separatists in his party that his caucus is uh is all pro canada
00:04:41.120and he himself declared himself as uh you know alberta born strong um canadian and uh so non
00:04:50.560separatist which was which was an interesting comment um especially you know and it aligns i
00:04:57.520mean i'm not surprised by it it aligns with uh the fact that he's a federal leader you know
00:05:02.640I mean, the only federal leader that really can pronounce himself as a separatist, I guess, is the leader of the bloc, Yves Blanchet.
00:05:11.440So I guess everybody else who's taken an oath to the king has to be pro-Canada and can't really declare themselves as separatist supporters.
00:05:20.060But I was surprised that he went as far as saying that everybody in his party was totally pro-Canada.
00:05:27.120and and you know and i think that cost him a little bit of uh popularity here in alberta i
00:05:33.020mean i did my own little survey online the other day um because as i've told you guys i've actually
00:05:39.360been canvassing i've been going door to door trying to collect signatures for the uh independence
00:05:43.620petition so and i get to talk to a lot of people and you know when i ask people why they want out
00:05:49.160a lot of people say they're just frustrated because our voices aren't heard which is valid
00:05:53.760And then and then a lot of people have told me they never vote in federal elections, never have, which I find interesting.
00:05:59.840So I did a poll today and I asked people, you know, if an election were to be held tomorrow and you're conservative leaning, would you vote for Pierre, you know, reluctantly?
00:06:10.900Would you vote for Pierre happily or would you vote for somebody else like Max Bernier or another party or would you abstain?
00:06:19.980So I gave, I gave those four choices and the, the pro voting for reluctantly or happily
00:06:27.280was 60% and then 40% said they would do otherwise.
00:06:30.260So I found that an interesting, um, that's, that's, that should be alarming for Pierre
00:06:38.500And then, and then, uh, and then we just saw what happened yesterday, which was extremely
00:06:43.100alarming, which also turned off a lot of, uh, Albertans in general.
00:06:47.380but yesterday we had a floor crossing another one which is the third one um and we had uh
00:06:53.940this gentleman named um uh matt generu who's an mp up in the edmonton area now matt's been a
00:07:02.280provincial mla and a conservative and a federal mp so he's been in politics for a long time
00:07:09.780and he's always been a conservative and he's been in a writing that's always been conservative
00:07:14.560so then for him to suddenly say that he's uh jumping ships that he's had a change of heart
00:07:19.900he said he had a change of heart because of uh pierre or not pierre because of uh mark carney's
00:07:25.360speech in davos and uh i'm like well that's interesting because uh you know you'd have a
00:07:32.320hard time convincing me that that you're in a writing that's been conservative for the last
00:07:36.400you know 20 years and suddenly you're supposed to represent the people in your writing and you're
00:07:42.640switching seats so um that was not a popular move yesterday a lot of uh backlash uh from that um
00:07:52.960and and and so much so that uh people went to the office and it was quite funny because there's a
00:07:58.720video circulating of somebody standing outside the office and the office is closed and you could just
00:08:03.120hear the phone ringing inside ringing ringing ringing ringing and no one was answering it
00:08:07.360which so you know in my opinion um carney is uh or poilier is perhaps losing a bit of support
00:08:15.220in alberta which is should be very worrisome for conservatives in the rest of the country because
00:08:21.360as we've said before without the without a strong conservative vote in alberta the the country
00:08:26.900doesn't have a hope it's always going to be liberal and and and then the other side of the
00:08:32.500story is that carney now you know he's rebuilding his majority his minority uh call it what you want
00:08:40.180i mean he's close to a majority you know he needs uh 172 seats in the house of commons right now
00:08:48.900he's at 169 because he did you know he he never had the majority to start with and he lost uh
00:08:54.420freeland and um uh bill blair recently you know freeland went to uh in a role in ukraine and bill
00:09:02.260bill blair is the canada's uh high commissioner to the uk which is basically a diplomatic role
00:09:07.160so he's lost those seats and then he had a couple of other um departures so right now uh by by right
00:09:16.720now officially carney has 169 uh seats he needs 172 for a majority and he's got three um by
00:09:25.160elections over the horizon so in my i honestly think that mark carney is really close to a
00:09:32.520it is a majority but it's not going to be a very good one because he'll always you know he has to
00:09:36.600give up one of those seats to the speaker of the house i don't think he'll be happy with just 172
00:09:41.800seat majority i think he can sense uh smell blood and i he can sense the weakness of the conservatives
00:09:48.520And I wouldn't be surprised if Carney does something to send us to the polls in the new year.
00:09:56.020I don't think Carney, he himself, I don't think he's going to go over to the governor general and dissolve parliament.
00:10:01.240That would be brutally unpopular, especially after all the shenanigans that they've done in the last year, you know, proroguing parliament and him becoming prime minister without having a seat and all that stuff that happened 12 months ago.
00:10:14.480So I don't think he's conscious of that.
00:10:17.420so what's his best bet my best bet is that he's going to somehow or other try to uh allow himself
00:10:24.280to be defeated in an upcoming vote so i think the most likely vote in the new year will be or not
00:10:30.840new year in the coming months is budget believe it or not we have to you know we just approved
00:10:35.840the budget but we got to re-approve the budget the budget for 2026 2027 is due right away because
00:10:41.120fiscal year federally runs from you know april uh first to march 31st so like right away in about
00:10:47.920six weeks we're done the 2025 2026 year even though we just approved the budget um so yeah
00:10:54.720so it's been uh you know it's been a fascinating week uh from that point of view watching all of
00:11:01.280that and uh and uh yeah i i think you know it's a we we're in for we're in for a really really
00:11:10.400interesting time so i anyways i've spoken quite a bit uh you know that's my intro i mean i think uh
00:11:16.240i think you guys can sense it i want to talk about uh i want to talk about the possibility of a of an
00:11:21.600election in the new year i want to i want to hear your guys's thoughts on the floor crossing and uh
00:11:27.920and poiliev's reaction is it enough is it not enough um things like that so you know john's
00:11:33.680going to open up the uh the phone lines right now and if you guys want to call in uh please do so
00:11:39.040and if somebody wants to uh also call in or and let me know um you know the score of the game i'd
00:11:46.560be uh i'd be happy to know that um so just you know uh while we wait for a couple calls just uh
00:11:55.200But just on the, if there is no election, if there is no election in the coming year, Carney still has a couple of by-elections that he has to worry about.
00:12:09.380So he has a couple of people, you know, he still has to refill the seat that belonged to Freeland and the one that belonged to Bill Blair.
00:12:18.180And then he has another one in Quebec that is vacant that was a real squeaker last year.
00:12:24.380so you know even even if everything goes right carney still has a challenge to get his uh
00:12:31.180his uh his majority um so you know uh and and then of course i was talking about
00:12:39.740things that he's doing to try and uh sabotage himself um because he doesn't like i i don't
00:12:48.060don't think he wants to you know uh drop the writ and uh launch it or call a snap election he doesn't
00:12:55.180want to do that so he wants somebody to do that for him and the best way for him that for that
00:12:59.060to happen is for him to get defeated in the bill and he's got a couple of bills on the table right
00:13:04.220now that are not popular he's got c9 which is that the bill uh on uh free speech and you know
00:13:11.220disguising what's it's the hate bill right they're they're inventing this thing they're they're
00:13:16.020pretend or they're making a big deal out of hate and they're trying to pass laws making it illegal
00:13:22.660to hate which in and of itself is a an interesting idea right there's nothing it's not illegal to
00:13:27.680hate you know i i can say i don't like you there's nothing illegal about that if i don't like you and0.88
00:13:33.740i do things to uh that can harm you that's illegal but simply saying i don't like you is not uh a
00:13:40.260crime but the liberals are trying to make that a crime we all know what's going on i mean especially
00:13:43.820us here that are in, you know, with media or on the periphery, people that are expressing
00:13:49.460opinions like I am right now, they want to shut down those opinions.
00:13:52.580They don't like people that have opinions.
00:13:55.220So the Liberals could try and get defeated on C9, but I think more likely they're going
00:14:00.380to try and get defeated on the budget, right?
00:14:03.540Last year's budget was a doozy with $70 billion in deficit.
00:14:10.240it and and in just in the last three months since it's been announced they they keep piling on the
00:14:16.100deficits right so the uh that that gst um credit that was relabeled as a um uh it's what do they
00:14:27.300call it they called it a grocery is essential groceries benefit or something like that right
00:14:31.800basically food stamps and and when they announced those food stamps a couple of weeks ago basically
00:14:37.180that's another 12 billion dollar that wasn't budgeted for so you got 70 billion dollar deficit
00:14:43.260you're adding uh you know the gst uh rebates you know the the the the shenanigans around that they
00:14:51.260lost the um they were trying to go after uh capital gains right remember when they tried to increase
00:14:58.060the capital gains uh exemption rate from 50 to 62 percent so uh you know they were doing all those
00:15:05.420stunts and so i think in in the new year they're going to be hard pressed to uh to have a budget
00:15:10.940that's on with a deficit of under a hundred billion dollars anyways okay so i got a call
00:15:15.740on the line uh go ahead please and and state your name and tell me where you're calling from
00:15:22.940maverro from sudbury ontario how's it going welcome to the show very good how's it going with
00:15:30.460other than the brutal cold we got hit by mother nature this you know we we all got complacent
00:15:38.900for a while here we had no snow on the ground and then suddenly she gave us a wallop but
00:16:36.060i mean uh you know the all the parties back to do they want an election from a financial point
00:16:41.740of view all the parties released their full um financial statements from the last election right
00:16:47.740they both ran uh 30 million dollar uh campaign so they're the parties are broke they have no
00:16:54.060money in their coffers that said um the they can work together and try and pass bills together
00:17:02.860under a minority government like they have for the last i mean let's face it right under trudeau
00:17:07.740we had minority governments and it was kind of stalled and they they didn't advance anything too
00:17:12.620too useful or controversial but i think honestly i think the liberals at this point they're stomping
00:17:18.620at the bit right they want to they've been sitting idle they have an agenda and they really haven't
00:17:23.580been able to push their agenda so i think they're good and they see they like i said they they see
00:17:27.980an opportunity because the other parties are weak so i think the liberals are gonna are gonna push
00:17:33.820for an election because going down this path we're gonna be down in a minority for the for
00:17:39.420the conceivable future because we're gonna win lose a few more floor crossings things like that
00:17:44.380so deep down i think that the liberals wanna they want an election okay all right you're not sitting
00:17:52.460on the fence thank you marty yeah yeah no i i rarely sit on the fence that's one thing uh i i
00:17:57.980usually uh have an opinion on but um yeah and actually that's an interesting thing too we we
00:18:04.540uh i did go through the the financials not too long ago that you know the election was way back
00:18:09.500in march april but they and they have um usually the parties have about five months to file their
00:18:15.980their election spending in this instance for whatever reason the uh elections canada gave
00:18:21.660them until almost the end of the year so that most of them didn't file until like december 29th
00:18:26.300and i went and looked through it definitely the liberals and conservatives both went right to the
00:18:30.700limit like they're allowed to spend 30 million dollars they both spent like right to the limit
00:18:34.700you know 29 million 993 000 kind of thing uh the ndp were a little bit less uh well a lot less at
00:18:43.180about uh eight uh eight million dollars which is also another interesting reason why i think
00:18:49.660the liberals might want an election right now is because the the the ndp still don't have a leader
00:18:55.260they're doing their uh actually the ndp have a leadership um debate tonight if i remember
00:19:01.420correctly in uh bc there's a debate tonight and the lead and the leadership for the ndp starts
00:19:06.860voting in the coming weeks and they'll announce a a leader shortly here but for all intense
00:19:13.020purposes jagmeet singh completely destroyed that party i mean they they have three seats in the
00:19:17.340the house of commons and i think they're trending to six right now so we've we've definitely become
00:19:22.700a it's a two horse race it's the liberals versus the conservatives the bloc are still present uh
00:19:30.220but um not enough i mean the the polls right now show that if the if well that's the other
00:19:35.900important important thing right they're reading the polls and if if the conservative if the liberals
00:19:40.060had an election tomorrow not only are they sensing they could win it they could they're sensing they
00:19:44.700could win it and have a pretty solid majority so you know so then do you think that try and push
00:19:51.580through or or take a risk on a more controversial bill right away because of that stance of not
00:19:58.780of almost encouraging an election yes yes exactly actually i you you i was trying to think of what
00:20:05.420this yes that's what i that's what i saying i mean they can do it with the budget and they can make
00:20:09.100the budget unpopular the budget was barely popular remember they needed like to go get
00:20:14.700um elizabeth may and she you know she she clutched her pearls and it's like i'll reluctantly vote
00:20:20.460for it but at some point uh it might get so gross that she can't support it and then uh i also i
00:20:27.500also see um another shenanigan that's happening right look at what they did this week or was it
00:20:33.740this week or last week where uh carney appointed um let me let me backtrack right so the liberal
00:20:40.140the the canada u.s mexico trade agreement is signed it's a like it's like a 16-year agreement
00:20:46.940but it does have it does require a review period so there's so um because neither party neither
00:20:53.660the mexicans the americans nobody uh you know invoke the uh the clause to get out of the deal
00:21:00.380it's due for an automatic renewal and and carney this week appointed um some lady uh what was her1.00
00:21:07.260name um somebody yeah yeah yeah and and so and that was completely unpopular in it again it
00:21:15.820looks like he's sabotaging the relationship we have with the us which i think he is because
00:21:21.580um the worse it gets for us the more he keeps blaming trump and then the better that is for
00:21:29.020him so carney will you know carney's distancing himself from trudeau and then he keeps blaming
00:21:34.460trump and keeps portraying himself as the savior okay janice janice charrett there you go thank
00:21:41.220you yeah and and it's somebody who's very kind of uh supported the uh or advised towards lockdown
00:21:49.840or or pardon me towards invoking the emergencies act against the freedom convoy yeah so she has
00:21:56.900this sort of authoritarian bent to her so i don't know what that means as far as negotiation tactics0.98
00:22:02.800I don't think that's particularly promising, because if we consider the U.S. any kind of a populist government, and whatever our government is, if you want to call it, well, whatever you want to call it, it's a little more of a technocratic government.
00:22:21.440I don't know if they're going to get along well, these two individuals, if they ever talk face to face.
00:22:26.620I think there's going to be some kind of tension, right?
00:22:29.420yeah yeah yeah she's uh she's a career um politic not a career politician she's a career bureaucrat1.00
00:22:36.780right she's been in government for 40 years her claim to fame is she was uh president of the privy
00:22:41.820council and stuff like that but i mean she has no no um no real credentials when it comes to
00:22:47.820negotiating or or or diplomat or diplomacy with uh foreign governments um yeah yeah yeah no
00:22:56.140appreciate the call thanks thanks very much marty yeah yeah um actually just on on that um yeah
00:23:05.980you know he's right uh she was in privy council and she is one of the people who advise um trudeau
00:23:13.500to invoke the emergency measures act so i mean that alone doesn't make her very popular with
00:23:18.940uh with me um we got another call on the line uh go ahead
00:23:26.140what's your name what's your name please yeah go ahead uh it's wayne mark no i live in
00:23:33.340frazier lake in lovely north central bc in a very depressed uh mining lumber town
00:23:39.260and i'm just generally really upset you know i'm it's not just albertans that are upset you know
00:23:46.240like this country the wealth i've seen drawn out of it i was born in grand perry so i'm familiar
00:23:53.160with some of the areas that you talk about sometimes and my concern today is
00:23:59.340Tumblr Ridge and suppression of free speech on saying anything. The only guy
00:24:06.040that had any testinal fortitude was Max Bernier. He called them out and it's okay.
00:24:14.840Isn't that crazy? Sorry, you said Fraser Lake or how far? I mean you so you've
00:24:20.580driven through Tumblr Ridge, right? Describe that part of the world for some of the listeners
00:24:26.200who are not familiar with it. What does it look like?
00:24:30.880I've never been to Tumblr Ridge, but both of my grandparents were first generation homesteaders.
00:24:41.740So I'm a third generation of people that Justin Trudeau really hates. I've been to
00:24:48.980grand prairie many times i spent a couple summers out there on one of my uncle's farms it's a
00:24:54.180beautiful country they call it god's country like grand prairie and some of the ridges in the
00:25:00.420mountains like that's like chetland i had a sister live in chetland and a nephew got badly hurt in
00:25:07.460chetland in a sawmill they are analysts come to alberta to u of a and i think that's the only
00:25:14.260reason he's alive like you get hurt in bc you go to alberta to get health care it's kind of
00:25:21.460depressing living in northern bc actually yeah i'm retired and gray i'm a little annoyed about
00:25:27.860a lot of things okay okay no you know it's not just it's the reverse sector in general that's
00:25:34.580had the crap beat of it by these progressive agendas like especially that we've taken yeah
00:25:41.540Yeah. Thanks for that, Wayne. And, you know, yeah, especially that part of the world. I mean,0.78
00:25:46.540Tumblr Ridge is mining towns and it got, you know, it got crushed when the green agendas came
00:25:52.900in and we weren't supposed to produce coal, even though we could produce coal very cleanly and
00:25:57.780there's technology to clean it up when it's being burnt. And it's a very efficient way to, you know,
00:26:02.100to make electricity and whatnot. But, you know, Tumblr Ridge was destroyed. But I want to go back
00:26:06.940your point you brought up your you know your initial point was pretty spot on right uh the
00:26:12.140events actually i'm kind of surprised that the events at at the as tragic as they were tragic
00:26:17.580events it was extremely tragic what happened in tumblr ridge i'm surprised it didn't get politicized
00:26:22.140more so i think uh both sides realized that maybe this wasn't the time to politicize it and it actually
00:26:30.300fell off the um the uh the news cycle it didn't you know it's it's only been a week and already
00:26:36.060people aren't talking about tumblr ridge so yeah thanks for calling wayne yeah yeah okay have a
00:26:43.740good day yeah yeah you too cheers um yeah i i i'm actually yeah back to that i am surprised i i thought
00:26:51.340for sure they were gonna you know use that to uh keep promoting that that gun ban that i think is0.84
00:26:57.740absolutely foolish and a complete and total waste of money i mean let's be real right the the um
00:27:05.180the country has some real problems the country has some real problems and and they're not0.98
00:27:10.380being addressed right now i mean you know let's go back to to the economy and to trade with the
00:27:16.460u.s and what's and and villainize making uh trump into a villain i i find that absolutely worrisome
00:27:24.620because um you know we have a 200 and longer than that i mean we have a we we have a 10 000
00:27:32.700year history with the americans next door if you forget about all the borders and stuff like that
00:27:37.180but but quite honestly we have a 250 year history with them that's been super peaceful and uh
00:27:43.820beneficial to both sides and to be antagonizing donald trump like we are right now i i i don't
00:27:50.460want to go there but i'll i'll come back to that i got another call on the line so go ahead and
00:27:54.300where are you from and what's your name please
00:27:55.660it's with me mark dear home from clare's home alberta how's it going mark what's uh what's
00:28:05.020on your mind bud good um just for a little context um back in the late 90s early 2000s
00:28:13.820i was policy chair for reform out in crowfoot which is where pierre is right now um in 2009
00:28:21.500and I came in second to Daniel Smith and Wildrose Rice,
00:28:24.820just for those of you with political long memories.
00:29:18.220And I made a mistake by in any way agreeing to support Jason Kenney.
00:29:23.780And bottom line, people that are lifelong politicians that haven't worked in the real world,
00:29:28.940they don't understand what we're going through.
00:29:31.600And they're making political compromises that are for power and not for the people.
00:29:36.940Mark, you bring up so many good points, but I just want to ask a quick question.
00:29:40.660So that writing from a provincial point of view, if I remember correctly, several years ago, like maybe in the 1980s, actually elected an MLA from a separatist party.
00:29:54.760Is that right? Do you remember that or were you involved in that?
00:29:59.700I was a little young back then, even though I'm an old guy now.
00:30:03.800Yes, there was a separatist and I can't speak to exactly when.
00:30:06.800And I believe it was a by-election process, though.
00:30:10.300But also, and to be frank, I broke ranks when Jack Ramsey was found guilty of the crime he committed.
00:30:21.020But he had a history with, I believe it was Western Canada concept or something, and that was federal and reform.
00:30:27.880For anyone listening, I do not stand by that man with the crime he committed, and I push for the nomination to get rid of him.
00:30:36.140after he was found guilty yeah your your other point you brought up i should have brought that
00:30:40.760up actually because you know as i said at the start of the show i did that little poll of who
00:30:44.880would you vote for and and in my little poll which got about 1700 votes uh 10 said they would vote
00:30:51.580for max or another party which for the time being is max right it's the ppc so this could if there
00:30:57.540is an election again in the near future there could be a breakthrough for max and i agree i
00:31:03.220mean i'm not a i'm not you know people who've followed me for a long time no i'm not a huge
00:31:07.900fan of max bernie i'm just not i like the party i i kind of like what the ppc stands for but i
00:31:13.820just don't like max himself and um and and i think they could have a breakthrough in a writing like
00:31:20.240you've described right i i live in one of those writings i mean i live in uh i think it's been
00:31:24.980renamed now i think i live in uh in cochran airdre is the name of the writing um uh my my mla or my
00:31:30.760mp is uh blake richards right he's been there for six years and and it's it's um it's a safe
00:31:37.240conservative writing but it but uh uh the ppc could run in a writing like that and take you
00:31:43.660know 10 15 of the vote still not flip it but uh actually that's an interesting question anybody
00:31:49.000got an opinion is there a good writing where would where would max have the best bet of flipping a
00:31:54.400writing in in Alberta and federal writing yeah appreciate the call mark the
00:32:00.520bottom line is okay sorry but go ahead bottom line bottom line is that if max
00:32:09.280comes up and makes it so that we as reformers which is where the root is of
00:32:14.500grassroots Alberta politics if he says I will not let both splits win then he can
00:32:22.180getters on board, but without original reformers on board that paid a price for going up against
00:32:28.780vote splits, it's not going to happen. He will never win in Alberta unless he gets a strategy
00:32:35.300where we go pay. He's not thinking he can win an election. He's going for a balance of power
00:32:40.960because most reformers I know actually like the principles of the party, but strategically,
00:32:46.840he is failing us so he needs to move on or accept a strategy that can be incremental and move us
00:32:53.680forward very good yeah yeah yeah i appreciate that thank you um yeah if if somebody's got an
00:33:00.440idea where would what's a good writing or where's a couple of places where max should focus i i mean
00:33:05.600i found max's strategy in the last few elections a little bit unusual right he uh he showed up in
00:33:11.000winnipeg uh last federal election or yeah last election he put a lot of effort in manitoba that
00:33:16.720didn't pay off for him i think he should go after ontario and alberta and uh and focus his effort
00:33:22.900somewhere but uh so anyways while i while i wait for a call uh i just want to go back to the you
00:33:28.640know what i was talking about antagonizing the u.s right um like it doesn't like we let's be super
00:33:36.680super realistic i mean we we do on a monthly basis 65 to 70 billion dollars worth of trade
00:33:42.920with the us or sorry we do 60 to 70 billion dollars worth of trade internationally with
00:33:48.840everyone but out of the 60 billion we do like 48 billion is with the us every month like 70
00:33:54.760of canada's trade is with the us and then and then the next nearest competitor it varies it bounces
00:34:01.480back and forth once in a while it's it's england and once in a while it's china and even mexico it
00:34:07.080depends on the month or the year and uh and and the next one is like is dwarfed right we do 48
00:34:12.920billion dollars with the us and then we do six billion dollars with china or with uh the uk
00:34:19.160i mean if we lose 10 of our of our uh of our markets to the us we can't replace that with
00:34:24.760anything rapidly it's impossible i mean the the the all all the other countries we do business
00:34:30.840with don't match what we do with the u.s so i i'm always i find this idea well let's put it this way
00:34:38.360i think about politics and i think about a lot of things all the time that's one of the things i do
00:34:43.000and and when you run out of you know when you exhaust all the options and all the theories
00:34:47.400and you're only left with one then whatever's remaining is probably the most likely there's
00:34:52.360some people call that oxen's razor and some people call that the sherlock holm principle or whatever
00:34:57.080But some days I look at what Carney and the liberals are doing, and I do think they are sabotaging our relationship with the U.S. on purpose.
00:35:08.040They're breaking things to try and claim that they're then going to fix them and appear as the saviors, which is nonsense.
00:35:49.180But, yeah, so basically with these four crossings, you know, I'm fully suspecting that the Liberals are going to get their majority one way or another.
00:36:01.340What I'm really concerned with is bills, like things like Bill C-8, where as things are ramping up and they've got the mainstream media on lockdown,
00:36:11.620especially that provision about being able to remove internet access to you know anyone for
00:36:18.900any purpose doesn't need to go through a justice that sort of thing is really scary for the
00:36:24.740movement and so what I'm wondering is how do we preemptively protect ourselves from that do we
00:36:32.880go underground do we is there channels that we could start you know being part of or building
00:36:40.800maybe on you know the onion route or things like that just so that we because i can see it he wants
00:36:45.920his majority so he can push his stuff through with zero pushback and you know no matter what's being
00:36:51.600said about privacy and security they'll just push them through so they have the the stick to do that
00:36:57.520stuff and stop alberta separation right so what's your thoughts yeah a lot to unpack there i mean um
00:37:04.400yeah i often forget about c8 uh the reality is nothing's passed right now right so that's the
00:37:10.240the one good thing i mean it is such a minority that uh that nothing's passing but but go back to0.99
00:37:18.060you were trying to make a connection to the floor crossing like what what what worries you are you
00:37:23.180trying to stop the floor crossing or what are you worried about the floor crossing
00:37:26.600oh sorry um i brought that up because you were talking about the floor crossing originally and
00:37:33.040what i'm i'm uh you know i'm i'm segwaying into like he's going to get his majority
00:41:11.460If C8 and C9, which I think are very nefarious, contentious bills, if they pass with this kind of minority government, imagine the kind of stuff they're going to try and pass.
00:41:24.120Like, how bad will it get if Carney ever gets a majority?
00:41:27.100Like, if Carney got, you know, instead of 169 seats, if Carney had 188 seats in the House of Commons, what kind of stuff is he passing?
00:41:35.240Well, we know what he's going to pass.