Western Standard - June 28, 2026


MARTY UP NORTH: The state of "cooperative federalism"


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00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen my name is josh andrus i'm the director of operations of the
00:00:28.400 western standard i'm filling in today for marty on our one of our signature shows marty up north
00:00:33.920 uh this afternoon is fact packed folks we will try and get through the full program and also
00:00:39.360 the phone lines are open it's toll free uh john if you could just pop the number up at the bottom
00:00:43.840 there uh yeah give us a call at 866-479-9738 that's 4669 sorry 866-479 west extension 711
00:00:54.640 So today we have a pretty full program.
00:00:57.720 We will look into the disturbing 104-page anti-capitalist misogynistic manifesto left behind by the University of Lethbridge student tied to the tragic Montreal shooting.
00:01:08.320 As UofL alumnus, I'll have a conversation about the Marxist-Leninist groupthink dominating our lecture halls and why it's time to pull taxpayer funding.
00:01:16.860 Meanwhile, Minister Searle Turton and UCP insiders are pushing a passive Stay in Canada PR campaign.
00:01:23.520 I'll explain why they are completely missing the point.
00:01:26.660 Our fight isn't just about bad policy from Ottawa.
00:01:29.920 It's about a rigged constitutional structure.
00:01:32.620 Also, with the critical MOU deadline looming, we will expose the double standard of Canadian federalism.
00:01:39.780 Quebec walks away with a $10 billion infrastructure deal while Alberta gets stuck with aggressive climate conditions in what Mark Carney today called a quote-unquote possible pipeline.
00:01:49.960 Meanwhile, in Calgary, grassroots candidate Mike Derry pulls off a stunning upset over establishment favorite Dan McClain in the UCP nomination.
00:01:59.500 We'll look at the shockwaves this sends to party insiders who think they have the base under control.
00:02:05.240 Also, the UCP rolls out a $100 rebate while backing away from promised gas tax relief.
00:02:10.900 We'll pull back the curtain on Danny dollars and look at how high oil prices are papering over a massive spring deficit as Alberta creeps towards an expanded welfare state.
00:02:20.560 We will also explore the decision just 48 hours before the kickoff of Calgary's biggest country festival abruptly being cancelled due to quote-unquote city-driven bureaucratic barriers.
00:02:32.080 We'll look at both sides of this one.
00:02:34.200 Finally, we will take a look at how the carny curse struck Canada's national soccer team
00:02:38.540 immediately following his passionate locker room speech.
00:02:42.540 Let's begin in Lethbridge.
00:02:44.500 Seth Hatfield, a 25-year-old University of Lethbridge philosophy honours student,
00:02:49.120 has been confirmed as the suspect in the recent Montreal shooting outside the ILO headquarters,
00:02:54.240 the parent company of Pornhub.
00:02:56.140 We've seen the 104-page academic-style manifesto left behind,
00:03:00.740 complete with citations and sources,
00:03:02.320 featuring deep violent grievances against a contemporary capitalist society,
00:03:08.420 institutions, and elite power structures.
00:03:11.000 He uses standard Marxist-Leninist framing to intellectualize his rage towards women 0.96
00:03:15.660 in a sick, twisted fashion.
00:03:18.900 Now, to their credit, the university has published a statement
00:03:22.380 condemning the ideologies expressed in the document and the use of violence.
00:03:27.200 That is commendable.
00:03:28.680 However, once again, the university administration is dealing with a communications crisis where its faculty and what they teach is being called into question.
00:03:37.400 I sat in those halls as a student.
00:03:40.120 There were days that I felt as if the institution itself were trying to get rid of me.
00:03:44.540 I would hazard a guess to say that the vast majority of faculty at the University of Lethbridge-Leads left,
00:03:49.780 left, and that amongst that vast majority, a smaller yet still substantial majority,
00:03:55.820 actively prescribed to an anti-capitalist Marxist-Leninist worldview. That is how I felt
00:04:01.280 at least. When I see that a University of Lethbridge honor student in philosophy goes
00:04:06.120 on an anti-capitalist murder rampage at the headquarters of a pornography company,
00:04:10.300 I guess you could say that I'm not particularly shocked. Conservatism on that campus, and perhaps
00:04:15.660 across the province is dying. Those who believe in concepts like limited government or innovation
00:04:21.460 through entrepreneurship or even basic evidence-based academic research, as we saw through
00:04:26.880 the high-profile arrest of academic Francis Whittowson, need not apply. When an honours
00:04:32.420 student, months after receiving such high accolades, is tied to a violent, politically
00:04:37.660 motivated incident across the country, it should force us to examine closer what is really happening
00:04:42.840 inside those echo chambers. I'd really like to know what the professors are teaching those
00:04:47.440 students. I can guess. Who is there to challenge these radical, violent, pseudo-revolutionaries
00:04:53.900 before they descend into violent madness? When I was there, I often stood up alone in a sea of
00:04:59.560 students, all staring at me as if I was some kind of a villain. I would get private messages of
00:05:04.940 support after the fact, but rarely was I not standing alone. Other campus conservatives
00:05:10.700 towed the line and stayed silent. Fair. Afraid that making their voices heard could lead to
00:05:16.180 punitive measures such as poor grades or worse, expulsion. If the University of Lethbridge is
00:05:22.680 refusing to protect basic free steep beach and instead focuses on building a safe bubble
00:05:27.960 hostile to the society outside of it, it's a problem. And I've said it once and I will say
00:05:34.440 it again. Minister of Advanced Education Miles McDougall should take a serious look at cutting
00:05:39.800 the university of lethbridge's funding this is out of control it's a problem throughout government
00:05:46.960 i i think one of the frustrations that a lot of people feel is that the government seems soft on
00:05:53.380 a lot of issues that they're not as as firm when they need to be um do we have any calls not yet
00:06:00.500 okay moving on to uh minister of children and family services of alberta searl turton and if
00:06:08.820 can get that uh uh statement up on the screen here i kind of want to go through it a little
00:06:14.820 bit just to take a look if you scroll down here um so the minute this minister of the crown
00:06:20.260 recently issued a public stance regarding alberta's place in confederation another very
00:06:24.900 defensive passive stay in canada narrative let me read the section that stood out for me
00:06:31.220 i recognize that many albertans are frustrated with federal policies and decisions that have
00:06:35.700 impacted our province that is an understatement these policies have certainly impacted our
00:06:42.340 province for a decade we were subject to attack after attack on our economy from a federal
00:06:47.540 government hell-bent on shutting down our fundamental industries it's an issue that
00:06:52.420 we've experienced generationally going back to the national energy program even the fact that
00:06:57.060 we had to fight for natural resource control from the time we became a province in 1905 until it was
00:07:02.020 finally granted in 1930. Albertans aren't just frustrated with simple policies of a carbon tax.
00:07:10.660 They're frustrated with structural issues, such as a lack of representation in Ottawa
00:07:15.220 and a broken fiscal framework. The federal government overtaxes us and then dribbles
00:07:19.620 that money back, about 30% less than we send, with conditions. The Provincial Priorities Act,
00:07:25.860 designed to look at every federal agreement through that lens, was supposed to deal with
00:07:29.780 this issue. That law appears not to be worth the paper it was written on. We've seen a deliberate
00:07:36.260 shift in government policy. If Searle's message was a one-off statement, I wouldn't be concerned.
00:07:42.900 What concerns me is that this seems to be a position parroted by a large portion of Smith's
00:07:47.860 cabinet. This position is increasingly dismissive of grassroots frustration. And if this is the
00:07:53.940 position of the government, it goes against the very platform that Smith rose to UCP leader on.
00:07:59.300 these issues are structural and constitutional let's take a look at smith's remarks at the
00:08:04.340 western standard debate in 2022 on equalization is i ready to go yeah here we go thank you
00:08:20.020 just now eventually we need to open the constitution it's quite clear one of the
00:08:25.540 things we have to do on equalization though is that we have to be aggressive on this it's not a
00:08:30.420 matter of tinkering with the formula quebec should never be receiving equalization transfers from
00:08:36.100 small provinces like saskatchewan how that ever happened is beyond me and so we need to put forward
00:08:41.700 a position paper that would put forward ideas for how we would eliminate equalization in alignment
00:08:47.300 with what albertans have told us number one quebec's hydroelectric power has to be marked up
00:08:52.580 to market that would eliminate the lion's share of the of the amount going to quebec we also have
00:08:57.460 to adjust for cost of living in the different parts of the of the country because it doesn't
00:09:02.420 cost as much to deliver services and we also have to make sure that it doesn't grow with the growth
00:09:07.140 in the economy if we're going to see a decrease in the disparity between provinces we shouldn't
00:09:12.500 be increasing equalization that would eliminate the lion's share of equalization and make sure
00:09:18.020 that alberta is treated fairly okay good right that makes sense now can you put uh
00:09:24.580 cyril's statement back up
00:09:29.300 you see the difference here like this downplays the deep alienation felt by everyday albertans
00:09:36.100 and and tries to soothe the public with standard political talking points and in the meantime in
00:09:42.100 In doing so, we lose leverage fast.
00:09:45.300 And we're seeing that now in the Memorandum of Understanding, an agreement between the Alberta and federal governments.
00:09:54.920 It does absolutely nothing to address the core structural deficiencies of our fiscal arrangement with Ottawa.
00:10:02.280 We have been dealing with this for generations.
00:10:04.860 As I said before, you can look back at almost any day in the history of this province, any newspaper article, and you will see at the very top, front page of the paper, there's an issue that the provincial government has with the federal government.
00:10:18.700 This even happened when Harper was the prime minister.
00:10:21.160 Like, this isn't something that you can paper over with an MOU that doesn't deal with equalization.
00:10:28.140 Smith said there was a position for paper coming forward.
00:10:31.340 I haven't seen any government policy on this since 2022.
00:10:34.860 this is it's infuriating every time she talks about the change in position in ottawa it it
00:10:44.680 makes me angry i'd like to see this government put to forward some legitimate solutions to the
00:10:51.060 structural issues not just talk about them but actually solve them where's the position paper
00:10:55.540 on equalization why isn't equalization a part of this mou i mean we're taking a five we're maybe
00:11:02.540 five percent of what we want that this mou is getting for potentially a pipeline let's look at
00:11:09.020 how cooperative quote-unquote cooperative federalism actually works when you're quebec
00:11:13.640 versus when you're alberta recently quebec secured basically an unticketed 10 billion
00:11:19.100 dollar infrastructure deal with i didn't see any federal lecturing like there were i didn't see
00:11:23.660 any conditions meanwhile alberta's version includes stringent climate conditions carbon
00:11:29.280 mandates, and literally, as Carney said today, a possible pipeline.
00:11:36.300 Possible.
00:11:37.260 Like, this is what they do.
00:11:39.300 They use these agreements to manage and constrain us, not to give us equity.
00:11:43.460 This isn't an opportunity for us to really even get to the point where we have full sovereignty
00:11:49.960 in Confederation.
00:11:50.740 And I have seen a lot of talk from this government about sovereignty, but I am willing to bet
00:11:55.860 that as long as this MOU is in place, the Sovereignty Act won't be used.
00:11:59.280 that this government can't stand up to mark carney because they have signed their sovereignty away
00:12:06.320 i mean this is an asymmetric relationship where we pay the bills and get crumbs in return
00:12:12.000 and you're seeing you know signs of this frustration throughout the united conservative
00:12:18.400 party uh we saw it last night grassroots candidate mike dairy defeats long-time establishment figure
00:12:24.000 and councillor Dan McLean in the Calgary Shaw nomination race.
00:12:27.400 First off, full credit to Mike Derry and his campaign team.
00:12:30.780 Defeating an entrenched municipal name like Dan McLean
00:12:33.480 in a major Calgary riding inner city nonetheless
00:12:36.000 is an incredible, relatively inner city, like it's not deep south,
00:12:39.760 but it is an incredible organizing feat.
00:12:42.520 And what it does is it sends a shockwave
00:12:45.300 straight to the UCP establishment.
00:12:47.800 Party insiders and senior strategists
00:12:50.460 have been acting like everything is under control
00:12:52.460 and that the base is content.
00:12:54.000 Derry's victory proves the exact opposite. The party mood is far more rebellious, far more
00:13:00.140 frustrated, and far more untamed than the brass wants to admit. This nomination shows that UCP
00:13:05.480 members are not interested in career politicians or establishment gatekeepers. Now, I don't want
00:13:10.140 to be too critical of Dan. I think he ran a good campaign. I know Dan. I like Dan. I think he's a
00:13:15.400 good guy. But I think it's more what he represents. People want fighters who will hold the line on
00:13:22.240 provincial autonomy and fiscal conservative and to the insiders that are watching the base
00:13:28.100 does essentially put you on notice and it goes back to again it's this soft approach uh let's
00:13:37.240 talk about for example i want to get into the government's recent announcement of a 100 rebate
00:13:42.820 alongside their retreat from the promised gas tax relief that's another area where there's
00:13:47.660 it's almost like they get to the point where it's like we can push we can drive and then
00:13:53.400 they just say actually you know what no we we're not going to do that and the 100 rebate what
00:13:59.700 columnists are rightly calling danny dollars while backing away from the gas tax release
00:14:05.660 it relief is a pure example of that it's classic political misdirection and it goes back to the
00:14:12.720 spring budget. This government is running a massive spring deficit that is only being hidden
00:14:18.620 because oil prices are temporarily keeping them afloat. It's a deeply concerning trend for a
00:14:25.180 supposedly fiscally conservative government. Instead of limiting spending and structural
00:14:30.680 overhead, we're seeing a steady creep towards expanding the social welfare state, giving
00:14:35.740 taxpayers a
00:14:36.880 I'm not even going to call it a substantial
00:14:40.140 $100 check while maintaining
00:14:41.840 structural taxes and
00:14:43.720 failing to rein in provincial operating
00:14:45.740 spending is a band-aid solution
00:14:47.440 stuff in their pockets while we pay
00:14:49.820 the tax that they were supposed to cut
00:14:51.500 but again
00:14:54.140 it goes back to an unsustainable
00:14:56.280 fiscal strategy within the
00:14:58.000 Alberta legislature it leaves us
00:14:59.680 highly vulnerable the moment oil
00:15:01.940 prices dip
00:15:02.780 and so I think this just
00:15:05.740 this just kind of sums up my frustrations. It's, it's one of those things that I'd like to see
00:15:13.700 a stronger approach. It was one of the reasons I went up to Edmonton in the first place. I'm
00:15:17.960 back here now and quite happy by the way. Um, but it's, we, we need more. We need something
00:15:26.700 stronger because I think the thing that people are struggling with the most is they're losing
00:15:32.780 faith they're losing faith that there are changes that there are solutions to the problems and so
00:15:40.240 they're looking at independence as the answer to that i don't have a monologue about this i'm just
00:15:46.240 gonna kind of talk through it but i want to talk a little bit about keith wilson and let alberta
00:15:51.960 decide um it's a pretty strong group i mean keith wilson i've known keith for a long time i think
00:15:59.180 He's a fantastic public speaker.
00:16:00.900 I think he's very rational.
00:16:03.020 And he's been on this independence thing since I was at Project Confederation.
00:16:06.900 So it's good to see him get out there.
00:16:09.960 There's a certain degree of professionalism that the Let Alberta Decide campaign has brought forward.
00:16:16.380 It's added a little bit of credibility.
00:16:19.860 So that's, I think, where people are going to start looking.
00:16:24.920 if the Alberta government can't really show more aggressiveness
00:16:29.980 in defending what the base wants.
00:16:32.480 I mean, I think the frustrating part is that a lot of the staff
00:16:37.240 in the Alberta legislature kind of view the grassroots
00:16:42.140 as an annoyance that needs to be controlled.
00:16:47.620 It's not something that they can, you know, there's a relative disdain. 0.89
00:16:53.140 and and and i thought that the average member of the united conservative party is some crazy 0.85
00:16:57.660 redneck and i think that needs to be paper i think that needs to be fixed i think it needs 0.66
00:17:02.040 to be changed and and i'd like to yeah i just with keith wilson out there now i think that
00:17:08.580 i think that there's a shift uh and and maybe the middle ground like
00:17:13.500 we'll see what happens with the referendum i've i'd like to see a win i think uh but
00:17:24.120 even with keith and tanya clemens who's again great like that 50 clear majority i think is
00:17:33.540 it's it's a stretch goal it's possible it's doable i mean the leading federalist voices
00:17:39.780 Thomas Lukasik, Jason Kenney, Travis Taves, they all seem to have this patriotic view of a country
00:17:48.580 that is increasingly not working for Albertans. It's not working for anybody. And the provincial
00:17:57.220 government in backing away from sovereignty and in signing the MOU has effectively handcuffed
00:18:03.740 itself to mark carney there's nothing they can do i mean if they stand up or they use the sovereignty
00:18:09.860 act i mean deals off right mou's off so there's a lot going on um with that i'm going to go to
00:18:19.160 the comments here you want to start throwing some comments up there john i'll start responding to
00:18:24.500 them but i would like to call in so please join the conversation 866-479-9378 extension 711
00:18:31.600 We are taking questions from the audience on really anything.
00:18:35.940 Why would this minister continue to support staying in Canada
00:18:38.560 when we have tried years and years to get a fair deal
00:18:40.960 and nothing has ever happened?
00:18:42.540 In fact, the feds have doubled down on bad policies for Alberta.
00:18:47.080 Yeah, I mean, I think that's the crux of it.
00:18:49.380 I think that really summarizes the feeling that a lot of people have.
00:18:52.620 It's almost, they're not even addressing the structural challenges.
00:18:58.040 i haven't seen any comments out of ottawa on equalization i haven't seen i don't even think
00:19:02.080 jason nixon's used the word since he became finance minister right someone's probably gonna
00:19:06.320 fact check me on that but we have real structural problems here that these ministers they seem to
00:19:14.580 downplay they seem to think that equalization is just a bit you know it's a price of being
00:19:18.600 canadian it's the cost of your passport you know what i mean like it's this the maple leaf is more
00:19:24.200 important than the 30% of your federal taxes that don't come back. The billions that flow into
00:19:31.480 Quebec, including this $10 billion deal, which I'm sure will have fundamental issues regarding
00:19:39.800 the fiscal transfer system. We'd have to look into that deeper once we get the numbers, but
00:19:43.920 it's structural. And that's where the push towards independence comes from. That's really
00:19:50.960 because these politicians are not talking about fixing the problem anymore or they say we'll fix
00:19:57.100 the problem with no solutions so yeah I think that's really one of the biggest issues that
00:20:02.820 the government has and and I don't I think it's structural I think it is very much within the
00:20:08.580 government itself and and unless there's an attitude change in Edmonton I think cabinet
00:20:13.820 is going to continue to push the government in this direction which means that we're walking
00:20:18.720 if if this referendum turns out to be a loss whether it's 48 38 21 is irrelevant
00:20:26.580 we don't have we'll lose leverage like we don't have leverage in this negotiation with Carney
00:20:33.980 and Carney's very clearly pushing it like we aren't talking about a serious pipeline we're
00:20:39.760 talking about a potential pipeline that the provincial government appears to be having
00:20:43.860 trouble finding even a proponent for I mean we'll see what happens I think the deadline
00:20:47.360 uh for the or they're they said they're going to be submitting something on july 1st
00:20:51.600 i'll wait and see how that looks but again we're going to single pipeline like this isn't a subs
00:20:57.600 this isn't a decrease in equalization this isn't a change in governance this is a government that
00:21:06.740 is backing away from fixing the problem losing leverage in the process and signing our our
00:21:11.980 sovereignty away to a federal government that is not taking our issues seriously like why does it
00:21:17.360 take nine years to build a pipeline especially considering we have been dealing with this issue
00:21:23.380 since before i was even in politics like our pipeline bottleneck has been an issue for decades
00:21:30.120 not to mention all the previous policies coming out of ottawa these need to be changed so
00:21:37.920 yeah it is a deep frustration and that brings us to independence now i'm not going to
00:21:45.580 I mean
00:21:47.000 I'd like
00:21:49.180 Like I said I'd like to see a win
00:21:51.360 In this referendum I think from
00:21:52.940 Even from the fair deal standpoint like
00:21:54.860 You need leverage so if you're in the middle
00:21:57.040 You need to win
00:21:58.980 If you're on the independent side you need to win
00:22:01.260 Like it's this is one where there should be
00:22:03.640 A clear coalition
00:22:05.820 Of voters that you can
00:22:07.240 Get
00:22:07.960 And again
00:22:09.520 The government's not addressing
00:22:13.280 The structural issues they're signing up
00:22:15.580 But actually, there was an article, Fraser Institute.
00:22:19.300 I sent that to you, John.
00:22:20.100 Can you pop that up on the screen there?
00:22:27.280 Current government already clawing back.
00:22:29.480 MOU promises made to Alberta.
00:22:31.700 Can you scroll down a bit?
00:22:33.120 Again, Kenneth P. Green, excellent.
00:22:35.460 He's a senior fellow at the Fraser Institute.
00:22:38.860 We have a city.
00:22:39.620 Yeah.
00:22:39.980 So you have two governments that are, like, as he says here, second paragraph.
00:22:43.740 The two governments were starkly opposed. On one hand, Alberta has long wanted to expand production and development of its oil sands and grain export, pipeline capacity to the West Coast with lucrative markets waiting in Asia.
00:23:04.280 On the other hand, the Kearney government inherited and assumed prior commitments to make Canada a net zero greenhouse gas emitter by 2050, along with other commitments to environmental protection and Aboriginal reconciliation, all issues critical to any hope of future Alberta to Pacific pipeline development.
00:23:23.300 That's a lot of conditions.
00:23:25.460 This is an essential industry.
00:23:28.640 I mean, energy is the industry that powers every other industry.
00:23:32.440 without affordable energy innovation is stifled i mean you really think that microsoft would have
00:23:38.300 been able to advance technology if its electricity prices were three times as high no that would be a
00:23:46.200 severely prohibitive uh venture to enter to continue and again this is uh i will get i'm not
00:23:58.040 going to agree 100 with where he goes with this but the mou in theory set the grand bargain
00:24:04.920 in broad strokes alberta would bend the knee to ottawa's net zero agenda impose steeper upstream
00:24:11.400 industrial carbon taxes in lieu of direct carbon taxes and i do see we have a caller just hold for
00:24:15.640 a second and take a huge commitment uh to a carbon and capture storage program which by the way uh
00:24:21.480 has been criticized by synovus uh ceo john mc is it john mckenzie i think uh as being prohibitive
00:24:29.040 to investment like this is why you can't find a proponent anyways uh let's go to the phone here
00:24:34.420 um i'll finish my thought uh hi hi how's it going you're on the air
00:24:43.000 Oh, okay. I hope that the other talk in the background is not heard.
00:24:55.000 So my message is basically that defiance to tyranny is obedience to God.
00:25:03.000 God frequently used specific, often unlikely individuals to challenge systems of oppression.
00:25:12.000 You know, for example, he used a woman, Deborah, to lead Israel against Jabin and Cicera.
00:25:22.340 In more recent history, we have figures like Martin Luther King Jr., who is widely viewed
00:25:28.820 today as a transformative American hero, a champion of racial equality, and a moral icon
00:25:37.580 of nonviolent resistance.
00:25:39.120 And he's revered for his I have a dream speech. Mahatma Gandhi led India to independence from British rule in 1947 by employing nonviolence, a philosophy of nonviolent resistance and civil disobedience rather than armed conflict. And he freed his people.
00:26:04.280 yeah and I can comment on that I think that the voices in this movement that advocate for
00:26:11.960 non-violence obviously but like no I don't think you're going to win this referendum by calling
00:26:17.160 for armed conflict and I say that directly to certain uh independence leaders but I think the
00:26:23.680 key here is that each of those examples are individuals that use logic common sense and
00:26:30.700 peaceful rhetoric in their communications they pointed out issues they were were calm about it
00:26:36.620 and and i i think like i i hate tying this into uh the aboriginal stuff but
00:26:42.620 i think it's hard for the indigenous leadership to criticize the existing status quo i think that
00:26:50.020 there are significant issues with for example the indian act i think the indian act is probably the
00:26:54.860 most racist piece of legislation currently on the books it's got the name indian act in it
00:26:59.320 And it's an, it's an issue where the federal government is clearly not meeting the standards, like just standard living standards. I'm in clean drinking water and so on and so forth. And I think like from that community, there needs to be that type of rhetoric as well. I mean, they're talking about civil disobedience, but it's gotta be about improving their living standards. And I think these, the treaties that we have, I don't think they're fair.
00:27:29.320 i don't i personally don't think that there should be segregation period i think and i think that the
00:27:34.840 current system that we have so i'd like to see that kind of a rhetoric from them to uh to make
00:27:41.000 the case for why they deserve better treatment within canada i mean if they're going to sit
00:27:45.400 there and defend the existing system i think it's going to be difficult for them to to really make
00:27:50.520 a lot of progress even if they're using the courts and we know how the courts they they make up a very
00:27:57.800 small part of the entire population of Canada we need to concentrate on the
00:28:06.480 majority of Canada wanting independence and wanting away from government
00:28:11.540 tyranny which they will not change so what Alberta is doing you know is what
00:28:18.600 we should follow we should follow and they're in their lead the rest of
00:28:23.480 Canada as well the most our Constitution is completely you know it puts all of
00:28:35.000 Canada in this you know what could I call it in slavery you know to our
00:28:42.960 government because everything in our Constitution serves them so we this is
00:28:48.880 the reason why Algarida wants independence and wants to write their
00:28:51.760 own constitution okay so all of canada all of us we most most canadians do not even have not even
00:28:59.920 read the constitution that is true our constitution our lawyer you know one of the lawyers that i need
00:29:07.280 to to mention is sean buckley and he has exposed our constitution completely in an interview with
00:29:16.080 nadine you know go on uh um the um youtube and find that uh interview okay john duckley perfect
00:29:26.960 thank you very much about our our constitution and uh once we once we get to know that you know
00:29:35.680 everything that he has said about our constitution all of canada canadians all of them will want
00:29:42.160 independence perfect thank you appreciate your time thank you so much yeah um but no she's like
00:29:48.960 the constitution 100 is probably the biggest issue that we have and and i i think the part
00:29:57.120 that frustrates me the most like i ran an organization called project confederation
00:30:01.680 from 2019 to 2025 and the entire crux of the organization was focused on providing solutions
00:30:12.880 to fixing confederation and when i would provide those solutions to government officials or
00:30:18.520 otherwise i was often told that they were impossible that fixing canada was impossible
00:30:25.400 And now those same figures are leading voices to remain in Canada, and they're the same voices that aren't providing solutions.
00:30:34.080 And I'll tell you why they aren't providing solutions, because the solutions that they provide are the same ones that they told everybody were impossible while they were in power.
00:30:42.160 Jason Kenney, who, by the way, is not I don't think he's been talking about equalization for the last two years.
00:30:48.160 He was the one that put that referendum on the table that 62 percent of Albertans voted in favor of.
00:30:52.640 Like, and he's probably the most highest profile voice. I go on Twitter and I read the commentary from individuals associated with these campaigns, vote to stay, lead, not leave all the slogans that all these fancy political lobby groups have thought of.
00:31:12.960 and i have to laugh i have to laugh because it is just so hypocritical it is so hypocritical
00:31:21.560 for these guys to criticize organizations like when i was at project confederation for having
00:31:26.400 solutions that were impossible that are now completely avoiding talking about those topics
00:31:31.540 because they don't have the answers because the answers they were provided they told me they were
00:31:36.060 wrong anyways we got a call on the line how how are you uh you're on the air what's your name
00:31:42.700 how are you doing today good how are you well okay yeah no i'm i'm looking through all all
00:31:52.480 all your arguments to make yeah my name is mark by the way and it's it's uh um you know we talk
00:31:59.380 about all the pipeline stuff and to me that almost seems like smoke and mirrors it's taking
00:32:06.040 away that uh from the fact that well if alberta doesn't get pipelines then then you know that
00:32:13.560 that's the argument i think we can build a lot of pipelines what's going to supply these pipelines
00:32:20.760 correct me if i'm wrong but did i not hear danielle smith or somebody say we can go from
00:32:25.320 four million barrels with eight million barrels a day i think that was what she said yeah
00:32:31.080 well you're right because we're bottlenecked we can't send it anywhere like you can produce all
00:32:35.800 all you want and you can build all the tanks you want but at the end of the day it's got to go
00:32:40.180 somewhere and this is what i think the frustration that and i'm seeing in the chat like the mou like
00:32:45.440 this is a deal for a single pipeline that comes at the cost of a carbon tax all these conditions
00:32:50.980 and smith has been on the record as saying like every time you entered an agreement with the
00:32:56.180 federal government it comes with conditions and now she's signed this thing for again one pipeline
00:33:01.260 not a overall change in federal policy a single solitary pipeline that is causing massive chaos
00:33:10.820 within Carney's uh well they're only good for votes according to him but his caucus and
00:33:16.620 they're acting like this is the solution to all of these problems it's not okay it's not I agree
00:33:23.400 with you it's not the solution we can't double our protect our production because we can't get
00:33:27.420 it to market and then the other thing i was at uh i was at the debate with uh between uh keith
00:33:33.280 wilson and jason kenny and one thing kenny said that i i legitimately laughed out loud at uh is
00:33:39.480 he used the argument is as a reason to say that the federal government bought us a pipeline like
00:33:44.620 he actually said that if you remember uh that was the reason they bought the pipeline is because
00:33:50.460 they had basically created a regulatory environment that forced the proponent of the pipeline to pull
00:33:56.660 out and then they had to come in and rescue it kenny was openly critical of it now he's using
00:34:01.340 it as an excuse to go or his excuse to stay sorry like yeah i i share your frustration i 100 do um
00:34:10.420 do you have anything to add i i guess what you know what what else i'm trying to get across
00:34:15.480 is the upstream producers small upstream producers how are how are they going to drill how are they
00:34:23.920 going to do anything they have no access to funds now so they can't they can't go out borrow money
00:34:30.720 so for them to invest in doing this ambiguous these ambiguous projects they're they're just
00:34:38.020 stalled it doesn't matter what what the price of oil is yeah they can't get it to to bark they don't
00:34:45.200 they don't have access and they can't borrow money on it because the banks controlled by the
00:34:51.120 government already know that yeah you're not going to go anywhere yeah sorry no i you you can uh
00:34:57.680 so i was actually i just wanted to kind of bounce off of that because that is a very good point
00:35:03.340 that is exactly what uh john mckenzie who the ceo of synovus is he and and i'm going to quote
00:35:12.260 him here uh over the past decade canada has continued to add incremental regulatory burdens
00:35:17.460 at the cost to the industry um he also goes on to say actually i don't have his exact marks here but
00:35:25.820 he he claims even the lowered emission reduction standards in this mou handicapped large producers
00:35:31.720 and it also you're 100 right about the investment climate like if if private industry isn't
00:35:37.320 comfortable enough to to fund these programs themselves and in order to get a pipeline you
00:35:43.120 need massive government subsidies that that is not an environment that is conducive to private
00:35:48.320 investment that means that the entire like the system is built on government policies that
00:35:55.020 suffocate investment and then force us to then pay tax extra taxes to get these things built
00:36:01.480 like it is a absolutely atrocious policy and yeah like i said every time smith start or anybody in
00:36:10.040 that government starts talking about how great the mou is and how it signals that there's a shift in
00:36:14.320 ottawa yeah the shift is like two feet you know like you you're miles apart here and i don't see
00:36:23.500 that like i think that's the frustrating part for me is like i i want to believe like i'm not ever
00:36:29.660 gonna say that i think dan well i will see i don't know how things are gonna go but as of right now
00:36:34.840 i don't think smith like i don't agree with the the push to remove her from office but this thing's
00:36:41.060 got to go you can't be stumping all summer in the middle of an independence campaign on an mou that
00:36:47.900 the literally the prime minister is backing away from on a daily basis days before a potential
00:36:55.680 proposal hits the table so yeah i uh well if it does we'll see but i it's just there's a lot going
00:37:03.920 on up there and i and again i want to go back to to turton's statement and how yeah it's just it
00:37:12.320 you're not addressing the the actual structural issues here like these aren't one or two policies
00:37:17.760 yeah it'll be it's great that you know we're moving in the right direction structural issue
00:37:24.400 it is is a province like quebec how about that issue okay that that that's what's causing a lot
00:37:31.440 of this so so let's stop playing games and let's say oh quebec's going to be our partner in
00:37:36.720 separation because they want separation no there are they are not on our side okay albertans wake 0.92
00:37:43.520 up worrying about this quebecers don't they wake up they all give a crap about alberta okay no so 0.95
00:37:50.240 that is is who we are dealing with and that's the attitude in eastern canada yeah that is the 0.98
00:37:56.640 the attitude in eastern canada like and i think uh the the frustrating part too and i'll go back
00:38:02.960 to the vote to stay like jen gerson or no she's in with uh lead not leave which is travis tay's
00:38:08.680 group like some of her comments like and i don't have them in front of me it's just it's dismissive
00:38:14.640 arrogant like if you aren't happy with the status quo ttfo kind of attitude and that
00:38:23.460 is what infuriates people that is like i mean i'm not a guy that you know i mean i've had an 0.54
00:38:29.060 organization dedicated trying to fix the problem and i've got the globe and mail columnist or
00:38:34.220 wherever she is now just absolutely it's it's the vitriol in the commentary that's what aggravates
00:38:42.420 me that's what's pushing me further like just yeah address the issues you you run a federalist
00:38:49.000 organization and yet you talk in laurentian talking points down like down to the people
00:38:54.500 that voted to well oust the previous premier but it's again that's the attitude and that's
00:39:03.220 the frustrating part is how deliberately pointedly these leaders of the federalist movement are
00:39:11.700 absolutely just i can't swear on the air but i think you know where i'm going
00:39:15.900 yeah yeah yeah thanks thanks for your time because i could go on yeah about angry jen gerson i mean
00:39:24.300 that's what i call her yeah and then ken bows and cools another one um i've i've never met ken but
00:39:31.400 you know as a firewall signatory i expected better and that brings us again like we've got all these
00:39:37.660 like monty solberg and jason kenney they're both you know reform party mps that went to ottawa and
00:39:43.320 then merge the two parties together like it it's if these guys are coming if these guys are the
00:39:48.760 leading voices of staying in the country and they don't have any solutions like how far have they
00:39:52.560 abandoned their whole reason they got into quote unquote the whole reason they got into politics
00:39:56.380 in the first place unless the whole reason they got into politics in the first place was to shut
00:40:00.140 down the reform party which they did successfully and that did lead to stephen harper for nine and
00:40:05.440 a half years which was great because we didn't get shot for nine and a half years but as soon as
00:40:10.440 he was gone the structural issues became the crack in confederation that the liberals drove
00:40:17.040 policy after policy after policy into and you can't fix the problem if all you're doing is
00:40:23.860 cleaning the you know the the uh the infection out of the actual like fracture you know the
00:40:33.280 fracture is still there the structural issues still exist and i think that's the part that
00:40:38.660 these guys are just missing they're just missing it that's all i got
00:40:43.380 yeah sorry i'll just say one more thing before i go here and and thank you for all your time
00:40:48.260 is uh you know i would just say to all that you know the full canada forever cat i mean carney
00:40:52.900 just handed handed us a gift here in that yeah guess what we got 2500 new airbnb's out in vancouver
00:41:01.700 phone your mp say you want to book them because you're paying for them that's the only thing i
00:41:07.460 would say yeah i agree so thanks for the call mark uh we appreciate it we should open up the phone
00:41:11.940 lines uh but yeah excellent call thank you um yeah and i i want to get into uh jason nexon for a
00:41:20.020 second here uh and even um yeah sorry uh john's messaging me um i want to get into uh the 400
00:41:30.740 billion dollar price tag on independence because i've got so i've got some issues with the way that
00:41:36.660 they presented it uh one of the biggest line items in that 400 billion dollars is
00:41:45.060 apparently we are on the hook for our share which is ten and a half percent of the federal debt and
00:41:50.820 they're using this as a reason not to leave which i i don't know i don't know about you that seems a
00:41:57.140 little bit suspect to me i mean i don't want to why are we on the hook for a government that can't
00:42:05.700 stop spending the federal government is spending out of control we've got massive record level
00:42:09.620 deficits we got inflation that's picking up again we've got a sagging economy i mean they're making
00:42:15.700 the argument that we're not in a recession but the 0.7 growth rate isn't exactly something to
00:42:20.180 jump up and down about you got inflation that's extending gd or that's uh ahead of gdp growth
00:42:26.900 which creates problems with your purchasing power like it is absolutely that one that i heard that
00:42:37.060 i heard that one and i just i got mad about that like we you can't cite that as a reason to stay
00:42:42.980 when they're still spending billions on billions of dollars and that's coming from vote to stay
00:42:47.860 that's coming from the premier's office that is just like shut up sorry blink up elbows down
00:42:56.020 um okay you want to pop some uh oh we got a call on the line here we go we got another one 0.91
00:43:03.780 hello there uh you're on the air what's your name
00:43:08.180 my name is slavica oh you just called in earlier sorry can we i'll give you like two seconds that's
00:43:14.820 right but okay go ahead
00:43:19.140 okay so what i would like to the message that i would like to give all canadians is that we also
00:43:28.340 need an independence campaign so we need to gather people you know from all over the place even on
00:43:35.460 zoom meetings and invite people to zoom meetings and invite people to share their thoughts and
00:43:41.540 their feelings because this is what they need is we need to get them involved in this movement as
00:43:48.100 well okay because you know without people yeah without people and you would be a perfect person
00:43:55.540 you know to organize this get people on zoom and then get them to go in their neighborhood
00:44:01.540 i appreciate that um unfortunately my job here at the western standards uh is pretty like i mean i
00:44:07.060 have to no offense to derek feldbrand but he has a lot to manage so um anyways uh yeah i appreciate
00:44:13.220 the call i appreciate the support and i hope that other leadership uh people are watching you know
00:44:19.780 cory morgan's out there he's with the western center he's doing a lot of stuff um there's there's
00:44:24.620 a lot of great organizations and great leaders out there that are talking about that so again
00:44:28.820 thank you for calling slavica um can we okay excellent um there was one thing i saw it in
00:44:36.260 the comments i'm trying to find it again it popped out oh yeah mouser not yeah i want to go back to
00:44:45.980 the mou and again this is the message for the legislature rip it up like this is not something
00:44:52.700 nobody's buying it it's and it's as a conservative and i shouldn't be coloring myself that way
00:45:03.460 it's incredibly frustrating to watch a provincial government cozy up to mark carney and completely
00:45:09.120 leave a federal conservative party out to lunch uh again yeah there's mou is a nothing burger
00:45:16.500 smith is throwing alberta under the bus for nothing like yeah i hate that thing i think
00:45:22.500 cut it get rid of it i don't want it anymore um jason who a little fart in the wind
00:45:28.340 did i say that out loud um carbon is essential for life duh yep what else have we got here
00:45:37.540 can i just throw some comments up i'm having trouble scrolling through
00:45:47.600 i should just keep talking lead not leave what does that one say
00:45:58.340 Come on, Albert. Oh, here we go. Miss Missile Toad 715 says lead, not leave equals come on,
00:46:05.740 Alberta. We're sitting on top of the trash heap called Canada. That's pretty good, right? Right. 0.98
00:46:10.420 That's a great point because, and actually that brings me, I can talk about the Calgary
00:46:15.840 Chamber of Commerce a little bit. Calgary Chamber of Commerce is telling us that if we hold this
00:46:21.360 independence referendum, the economy is going to fall off a cliff. Now I've heard this from them
00:46:25.120 before so like i'm one of those guys when i see the calgary chamber of commerce making an economic
00:46:29.740 prediction i kind of throw it out you know like it's yeah these guys are wrong because they said
00:46:33.980 that about the sovereignty act and again we've been leading the country in economic development
00:46:39.240 for a very long time and not by a small amount like leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the
00:46:44.900 country while the federal government racks up debt taking our tax dollars dribbling them back
00:46:52.520 to us with conditions we don't get there's this is not a fair agreement deborah yedlin she was
00:47:00.700 i i had a lot of respect for her when she was a calgary herald uh writer but as an economic
00:47:07.620 forecaster this woman doesn't know what she's talking about so maybe a little bit harsher than
00:47:13.780 anybody else has said but again i challenge you uh if you're out there to go find an economic
00:47:20.160 prediction made by the Calgary
00:47:21.960 Chamber of Commerce and that's
00:47:23.940 accurate because so far they've
00:47:26.160 been
00:47:26.480 I don't even know
00:47:29.600 that's all I have to say
00:47:31.480 without swearing
00:47:32.600 so actually you know what
00:47:35.880 there is one topic I want to get at here
00:47:37.580 we got about 13 minutes
00:47:39.340 I don't think I got
00:47:42.020 into the Country Thunder
00:47:43.480 so Country Thunder is
00:47:46.000 one of the most prominent music festivals
00:47:48.120 in
00:47:50.160 canada and uh it was abruptly canceled yesterday two days before the kickoff at calgary's uh
00:47:56.080 uh it used to be called fort calgary we've rebranded it the confluence which
00:48:00.620 you know i don't like it fort calgary's fine uh which has led to a public dispute between the
00:48:08.000 organizers and the city the sudden cancellation just 48 hours before the kickoff is in some ways
00:48:15.680 a disaster for fans in the local economy that we'll get into a little bit more but the organizers
00:48:21.680 blame a mountain of city driven barriers ninth avenue construction infrastructure loss new noise
00:48:27.920 limits that apparently have ruined the production value but i feel like we should you know to uh
00:48:34.000 let's give uh mayor barkis a little bit of a break here ticket sales apparently according to reports
00:48:40.560 haven't been great the weather is going to be we're terrible like i i don't want to go to this
00:48:46.520 thing uh the headliner kane brown uh suffered an injury uh so he's out so that's your top ticket
00:48:55.520 driver and yet none of these things are in your release none of these things are in your release
00:49:01.340 to me that's a little bit disingenuous uh calgary's political leadership is claiming this
00:49:08.580 is a last minute business decision disguised as a regulatory dispute pointing out that they
00:49:13.200 actually adjusted the decibel levels from 65 to 70 but even then it's you know there's more to
00:49:21.600 this story and for i get the cowboys situation and i'm going to take both sides on this one i live
00:49:27.740 right by the national tent so you know like i'll be fine going to bed at midnight but i also was
00:49:35.060 prepared to stay up until 2 30 i mean i'd have to talk to derek about coming in a little bit later
00:49:39.320 sometimes but it's just you know it's it's to me it's a little bit disingenuous and it highlights
00:49:46.280 the immense friction of trying to get major cultural and entertainment events done in our
00:49:50.880 major cities right now if uh finally um so i mean that's it it is interesting and and the way that
00:50:00.160 the province and the municipality here that that farkas and smith were fighting i'm not sure if
00:50:07.760 this is just about the noise i think this is a deeper frustration a deeper division between the
00:50:15.420 two sides i hope that uh farkas and smith can sit down and find a common ground here let's you know
00:50:21.220 let's let's talk about this as you know you hate seeing this type of thing especially from well
00:50:27.700 I mean Farkas was a conservative um anyways um yeah also we have about 10 minutes left so
00:50:37.540 let's talk about the world cup a bit
00:50:39.680 Canada Canada Canada so big win um the other day I can't even remember who we played but
00:50:50.840 uh we beat him 6-1 Jonathan David got a hat trick big deal national pride
00:50:57.880 Mark Carney shows up in the dressing room after the game um do you have his speech handy can you
00:51:05.140 get it quick no okay so like I'm sitting there I'm watching the the post game show and Mark
00:51:14.820 Carney's sitting in the dressing room giving his best mel uh who is the coach in uh
00:51:20.840 uh miracle meld herb brooks giving his best herb brooks impression
00:51:28.460 subsequently the canadian team loses two to one to switzerland in their very next game
00:51:34.840 um now different opponent different type of thing but the carny curse is real the oilers
00:51:41.440 devastated the every team that he seems to put his hat on for loses so that gives me and and this is
00:51:53.280 uh probably going to get me in a bit of trouble but it gives me an incredible amount of solace
00:51:58.020 if carney has cursed every team he's ever i just hope he never puts a flames jersey on
00:52:04.360 that would be devastating okay do we have any uh comments
00:52:09.180 let me probably go back in the right screen here um do do
00:52:21.460 oh here's a good one why is uh mr thomas forever canadian forever carbon tax forever
00:52:31.460 equalization forever poor not debating keith wilson good question um personally i don't think
00:52:41.340 mr lukasik has a chance at coming across looking good in this one um look i we we set out a
00:52:49.320 challenge we had a conversation with uh his team and they eventually decided they weren't interested
00:52:54.440 i don't think you'll see him debate anybody i think that i mean it's about lawn signs and
00:53:01.940 media appearances he doesn't want to share the stage with anybody because if he shares the stage
00:53:05.680 with someone then he has to actually respond to the criticisms which he won't because he doesn't
00:53:10.400 know how um sorry thomas but uh yeah actually no i'm not sorry dude 400 billion is chump change
00:53:21.500 compared to the nine trillion dollars of resources that we have in the ground absolutely 400 billion
00:53:26.540 though again i don't know if that 150 billion in that in national debt to share like again i if
00:53:34.760 you're including that in your calculation like that that 150 is going to be 200 in very quickly
00:53:40.640 at the rate we're going so yeah i don't think that if you're including that debt as an argument to
00:53:48.820 remain in the country is a good argument because if it continues to grow then why would we not
00:53:54.560 get out of it before it doubles you know what i mean like this isn't your basic credit card
00:54:00.780 interest rate or loan interest rate this is a government spending so frivolously that they
00:54:05.660 basically can't even track where all the money goes so uh that's a bit of an issue um what else
00:54:13.240 have we got there alberta beef says imagine things get worse what then and i think that is
00:54:18.640 a genuine fear uh i think that how i put this it worries me i mean like i don't lose a lot of sleep
00:54:29.080 but let's say we go down this path where come october november we've completely lost our
00:54:40.400 leverage we have no pipeline we have a a loss in the referendum uh for the leave side um which is
00:54:52.320 again one of the big reasons why i think we need to see a w here but it's what happens after just
00:55:01.120 it's the i mean we already we've already seen it we've already seen it with the vitriol from the
00:55:05.700 mainstream media we've seen globe and mail with wall-to-wall anti-independence coverage cbc
00:55:11.420 running attacks the toronto star predictably uh just smearing mitch silvester uh you know like
00:55:18.480 that's the kind of vitriol that we're going to see from the east in the next six months and and
00:55:24.220 that will probably drive a lot of support to the independence campaign and again the wording
00:55:29.200 actually in a way helps because we are having a conversation about you know having a conversation
00:55:36.120 really and and but to me this is about leverage to me this is about
00:55:40.100 how can we have as much leverage in this negotiation as possible and and the approach
00:55:47.740 of the existing government the soft approach which again it's you see it at the university
00:55:51.760 of lethbridge you see it uh from minister turton you see it throughout this provincial government
00:55:57.100 and whether it's cabinet driving the bus or smith driving the bus it's starting to get to the point
00:56:02.280 where it's irrelevant they're they're all the same and if she has effectively destroyed every
00:56:08.600 leverage she gets and then kenny brings the hammer down backed by canadians across the country that 0.79
00:56:17.240 are viewing alberta as this traitorous redneck backwards living type of a place then you can 0.78
00:56:26.820 bet that he's going to have the public support to bring the hammer down which means no pipeline 0.91
00:56:30.240 maybe some kind of a national energy program 2.0 i don't know uh but you're right yeah what
00:56:35.940 happens if things do get worse and they very possibly could they very possibly could which
00:56:41.000 means that october is it's going to be one of the biggest days in alberta history i mean again i
00:56:46.960 mean this is you know again a culmination of decades and decades of failures by provincial
00:56:53.460 governments like you know the liberals and not entirely i mean there were a lot of scandals in
00:56:58.980 in the early days but when the united farmers of alberta came to power they were driven by
00:57:03.380 frustration with the federal government we didn't have control of our natural resources when the
00:57:06.900 social credit came to power um we we were we we did have control of our natural resources but the
00:57:14.420 federal banking system there was a lot of people that were frustrated with the federal government
00:57:17.940 and their financial state uh you can go forward to the national energy program in the 80s i mean
00:57:25.760 i'm skipping over a few years there but you know peter lochee and the you know we'll turn off the
00:57:32.040 taps and then you've got it's just it's every single government has gone through this at what
00:57:39.080 point do we just say like we can't fix it or maybe we'll see some solutions i don't i i'm willing to
00:57:46.740 bet though in the next six months we won't but it's the reaction to it that concerns me it's
00:57:52.300 the reaction to it from the rest of the country it's the why would you want to leave it's the
00:57:59.160 it's the and if the hammer comes then what can we do what what can carney do i mean we
00:58:06.620 you can read his book if you want to get a closer look at what he could do he could do that he could
00:58:12.920 have a national energy program 2.0 pipeline west to east not just for oil but for cash
00:58:19.680 there's a lot of things he can do he can nationalize the energy industry he could
00:58:23.440 bring in a windfall profits tax on oil and gas companies there's a lot of things that
00:58:28.560 that government over the last decade has flirted with but not done and now they've kind of backed
00:58:34.980 away from it no i wouldn't call it kind of i'd call it like i said two feet when you need to
00:58:40.480 move a mile right so yeah it's uh it could get worse and that is what concerns me but
00:58:49.060 i do have a lot of faith in my fellow albertans to look at the facts to make the decisions to
00:58:58.940 understand how the federal government is treating this as if they need the leverage and i'm running
00:59:06.200 out of time so i am going to uh i'm not going to sign off right away i just want to do a quick plug
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00:59:25.520 one of my favorite parts derek is uh particularly not happy about this but it was kind of his idea
00:59:31.060 uh i had suggested a dunk tank to put him in and then he he said uh you know that's too expensive
00:59:38.440 but what about water balloons those are cheaper i'm like yeah let's do that so anyways uh you can
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00:59:48.360 fildebrandt uh we also have we'll have other guests as well there that you can throw water
00:59:54.260 balloons at um but we're right now focused on getting as many sold to throw at derrick as
00:59:58.740 possible because that just makes this so funny and you know what to his credit he's been a good
01:00:02.880 sport about it um actually a really good sport uh he's you know he's not a bad guy so uh it should
01:00:09.160 be a lot of fun uh no we won't have a bouncy house but i appreciate the recommendation we probably
01:00:15.220 needed a little bit more time to book it there mike anyway so that is it for today marty up north
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