00:03:42.020Maybe people want to go on to another topic.
00:03:45.080So John, the producer here, definitely suggested, as you can see in the topic, Trump warns Carney about immigration.
00:03:52.640And so I'm going to I'm going to dive into that one.
00:03:56.340Definitely want to talk a little bit about I'll give an update on independence in general.
00:04:03.860In fact, I just finished doing a walk around Calgary with a journalist from.
00:04:08.420Yeah, I'll admit it. I'd walked around with a journalist from the CBC who interviewed me while we're walking around, grabbing some sound bites. Don't worry, I've met lots of journalists from the CBC and I've learned their tricks, right? When they ask you a question, do like you're in the House of Commons. Don't answer the question. Just tell them what you want. Just get your message across. So we'll see if that comes out.
00:04:31.760But yeah, I want to talk about, I'll give an update on the referendum, want to talk a little bit about Smith pausing the gasoline tax, the UN assembly that went on this week, and other topics.
00:12:05.880It's a great argument that by making women in the workplace, they will pay taxes and so forth.1.00
00:12:14.180So we have a declining birth rate, which is a problem.0.98
00:12:18.100So if you have, mathematically, if the birth rate is 1.26 and you don't bring in immigrants, okay, let's say you don't bring in immigrants, you just don't bring in immigrants and you stay like this at 1.26, the reality is that the population starts to go down, especially now because the baby boom is over, right?0.85
00:12:37.360The baby boomers are the people that were born like this, this, this anomaly, this huge chunk of our population born between 1946 and 1965.0.84
00:12:48.340Like the youngest baby boomers are the one born in 1965.1.00
00:12:52.860They're going to be, I'm trying to do the math here.1.00
00:12:55.240If you're born in 1965, you will be 65 years old in about four years from now, right?
00:13:02.840So the last of the baby boomers are going to start retiring and they're starting to die.0.99
00:13:07.360Baby boomers born in 1946, they're already 80 years old, so they're starting to die.0.99
00:13:12.660So there's this big change in our population, the older people, which was a huge cohort, like a lot of baby boomers, they're starting to die.0.99
00:13:20.720And the fertility rate of the people that followed is low.0.98
00:13:23.500So if you do the math and you forecast forward at this rate without immigration, the population in 2060, 2070 starts to go down.
00:13:33.420And then by 2090, I did the math and I asked the I did the math. If you don't bring in immigrants by 2090, Canada's population goes back down to about 28 million and then it starts to decline.
00:13:45.100There's an irreversible decline. So we created a problem and I'm sure this was identifiable, but we created a problem and we needed to bring in extra workers, immigrants to replace the people that are not being replaced by childbirth.1.00
00:14:06.000And why? For the same reasons that I described, the future generations, like we live in a society where we need people to pay tax dollars because we become dependent on the government and the government provides all sorts of benefits.1.00
00:14:22.220And I will argue that we lavish upon ourselves benefits that we can't afford. I know we can't afford them because we're three trillion dollars in debt.
00:14:29.600So we lavish on ourselves these benefits that we can't afford.
00:14:33.360And now we have a declining population.1.00
00:14:35.220So we have to bring in a schwack of immigrants.1.00
00:14:39.440And I wish there was a chart on this.1.00
00:14:41.620I'm not going to make John look for it.
00:15:55.540And so I wish the conditions were there for that. But since they're not, then I'm definitely pro-immigration. But when I'm critical of immigration, it is because it has been out of control in the last little while. When you bring in people way too fast, they don't have time to integrate. They don't have time to learn our norms. They cause, there's some friction that happens because of that. And our infrastructure is lagging.0.87
00:16:22.180You know, our schools, our schools aren't keeping up. Our housing is absolutely not keeping up, right? I mean, just do the math in your head. We've talked on previous shows. Canada has about 200,000 housing units starts a year. Okay, 200,000 housing units. Each housing unit can hold two or three people.
00:16:43.180so we build enough housing units to accommodate 600 000 people new people a year well if we're
00:16:50.060growing by one or two million million people a year we can't accommodate so um i was looking at
00:16:57.420this data now the rest of john maybe put that quote back up for uh for a second that uh you
00:17:05.260don't need to i mean donald trump put it back up put it back up i want to just reread the rest of
00:17:10.300it right um who are causing problems that will soon be too big to handle that's the part where
00:17:19.340liberals and others got upset yesterday i mean nobody's denying that immigration has been fast
00:17:24.860and rapid but is it causing problems that are could become irreversible that i'm not willing
00:17:34.220to go there just yet but the problems are they are real they're problems right we are seeing
00:17:39.900stories every day of of these problems it's not just uh it's not just housing there is there is
00:17:46.280sort of a clash is happening like i said because people aren't having we're they're not having a
00:17:51.100chance to integrate properly right like the the story last week of the guy like somebody went up
00:17:56.060hiking in banth and they got to uh the devil's thumb which is like a popular hike and then they
00:18:01.180get there and there's this graffiti that's been painted on the rock by by somebody uh and you
00:18:08.120But I'll yeah, I'll be blunt. There is a visible minority. I mean, it's it's somebody and that's unacceptable. And that's because they haven't had a chance to integrate with the way we do things. So, yeah, thanks. And I mean, some people don't like Donald because Donald Trump is kind of like he's blunt, right? He's blunt. He definitely put the liberals on the on the defense yesterday. They were they were they were having to quickly point out that that they've reversed immigration and things like that.
00:18:38.120that. And I'm glad. I mean, again, Donald is a wake up call for a lot of people. And I'll finish
00:18:48.300it by the last part of his comment there, which is the unemployment. Those numbers came out this
00:18:58.480morning. Unemployment numbers, employment numbers, I would say employment's more important than
00:19:02.600unemployment. Employment numbers came out for the last quarter and like 20,000 jobs added.
00:19:10.980Like in a country of 40 million people in one quarter or in one month, we're adding 20,000 jobs.
00:19:16.880And again, sure, it's minuscule positive growth, but 20,000 jobs added when you're increasing the
00:19:22.860population by a million, that's a problem because we're bringing in too many people and we're not
00:19:31.360adding creating the jobs for those people so let's pivot just ever so slightly because this ties in
00:19:38.740nicely with uh with a couple of other things so this this whole concept of immigration ties in
00:19:45.440nicely with uh the referendum okay and the alberta referendum because uh i think it's four out of the
00:19:55.960five maybe or sorry four out of the nine maybe five out of the nine questions reference uh
00:20:02.120immigration on the referendum and some people say that that uh immigrants are being scapegoated for
00:20:09.800a problem yeah perhaps a little bit of scapegoating is going on there but but i1.00
00:20:15.160i fundamentally agree that the data reveals that the out-of-control immigration has caused some
00:20:20.360problems and on the upcoming referendum smith put some questions around immigration you know
00:20:27.800regarding slowing it down taking more control of it and uh imposing some um some some guidelines
00:20:37.240and some minimum fees on immigrants who come to alberta and that's not i mean i don't think it
00:20:43.960should be on the referendum to be honest i don't think it should be on the referendum the problems
00:20:47.240are known, and it's completely within any government's purview to deal with these problems.
00:20:53.100I don't think she needs to do the referendum to go get the mandate to deal with that.
00:20:57.940She's fundamentally asking for powers that provinces like Quebec already have, right?
00:21:03.040I mean, the problem with immigration overall is that it is a federal matter.
00:21:08.140Ottawa decides who comes in and who doesn't.
00:30:05.920Nobody else is doing that anymore, right?
00:30:08.060If Trump was that existential of a threat, every province would use the same excuse.
00:30:13.320But no other province is using that excuse except you, John.
00:30:16.400So John or David, you're using that excuse. I think it's crap. Let's admit it. You're witnessing disarray in your opposition. And I don't like that. But all right, it is legal. Sure. Constitutional. Sure. Go for it. I hope that the British Columbian voters wake up.0.99
00:30:40.140Now, that said, one quick word of advice, if I can, to the British Columbians, you guys need to unite, man. Don't think of like at this point, it's not David Eby versus conservatives or whatever. It's David Eby versus non David Eby. You know what I mean? Like you guys on the and Alberta was in the same boat. Remember a couple of years ago, not more than a couple of years ago, six years ago, five years ago, when we were trying to get rid of Rachel Notley.
00:31:09.500we're in the same boat we had a divided side on the right um that was you know we're we were
00:31:17.100staunchly independent and it was hard to bring us under a big tent i will give credit to kenny
00:31:22.980for accomplishing this so kenny not my favorite politician especially not these days but one
00:31:27.400thing kenny did is he did come around and he united the right against rachel notley and so
00:31:36.540And I remember at the time saying, what do we call ourselves, right?
00:31:39.280Like people said, we're going to call ourselves our United Conservative Party.
00:31:42.040I mean, it was barely that because it was such a mishmash of people.
00:31:46.220It was just literally the party against the NDP.
00:31:50.000So I think what somebody's saying there,
00:31:54.660our Conservatives aren't Conservatives only Quebec?
00:32:00.280Or only 1BC. Sorry, I was reading that as Quebec.
00:33:37.540But boy, I definitely did not have that on my...
00:33:42.540I got to say one more thing about BC election that I think it'll backfire on him.
00:33:50.000OK, I'll just say that. I think it'll backfire on him. Again, the parallels between what happened in Alberta and what's happening in BC are pretty, pretty interesting. Right. Remember, how did Rachel Notley get in? It was a backlash vote. Right. We had the Lions or the Wild Rose Party and the Conservatives formed an alliance. Right. Danielle Smith walked across the floor.
00:34:13.980um Prentice saw an opportunity Jim Prentice dropped the writ did a snap election and the
00:34:21.900Alberta voters got really pissed off about these shenanigans and uh gave the NDP this huge majority
00:34:30.540and so sometimes the voter can see right through I'm glad that once in a while the voters do see
00:34:36.480through the shenanigans played by a leader and I think in this case David Eby might regret um
00:34:43.560dropping the red and calling this snap election but time will tell um and that's pretty quick
00:34:49.960right it's interesting that his election boy what a what an interesting fall we're gonna have right
00:34:54.420we have a referendum in alberta well what do we have an election in quebec on october 5th a
00:34:59.520referendum on october 19th in alberta an election in bc on october 27th wow it's gonna be an
00:35:04.980interesting uh interesting um fall um where do i go from here any interesting comments make uh
00:35:14.380catch your eye john you got the maybe not okay um what else happened this week oh okay well let's
00:35:26.060let's stick on trump right so uh the trump trump caught me off guard with a move this week caught
00:35:33.320me off guard caught me off guard when so let me reiterate right we're we're in Canada does
00:35:43.140a lot of trade with the US like 700 billion dollars worth of trade and Alberta alone does
00:35:51.260about 179 billion with the US Saskatchewan does about 30 billion or 40 billion and then the rest
00:46:00.420Another thing, it was pretty disgusting a couple weeks ago
00:46:04.300that Connie couldn't take the time to go to the 9-11 ceremony there it's just absolutely disgusting
00:46:14.060and what you guys should be doing with your third-party advertising is have a kind of a
00:46:20.860tongue-in-cheek advertisement saying that on like on the Canadian side that you're really enjoying
00:46:25.980Alberta spending out 50 billion dollars to Ottawa every year and all the good stuff that Alberta
00:46:31.820about us in a kind of a tongue-in-cheek way so that people kind of see where all the all the
00:46:36.860money's going yeah um okay well um first of all congratulations on your son actually i'll be
00:46:43.420driving through evansburg this afternoon on my way north so uh it's a small town very quiet i'm sure
00:46:49.020you got it out hopefully you got an acreage uh but i want to ask you a quick question randy then so uh
00:46:55.020uh i said earlier in the show i think eb's stunt might backfire on him am i am i out in left field
00:47:01.260on that one or do you think there's a possibility i think you're right because there's of course a
00:47:07.180municipal election happening about a week before so i think people are really going to be right
00:47:11.120kicked off for him trying to pull this quick one on us and um every year or every few months the
00:47:17.740conservatives are calling me for money and this time i'm going to be telling them that if they
00:47:21.740can't have a kind of a one conservative candidate on the ballot or bc1 party by themselves on the
00:47:29.140ballot they're not getting any money from me so they got to get their act
00:47:31.960together otherwise if we get another four years of NUP this province is done
00:47:36.420it's already done but it's only gonna be worse yeah yeah actually good yeah
00:47:42.280thanks for the reminder I forgot to mention that maybe maybe my colleagues
00:47:46.760Corey mentioned it but yeah there's a in in BC your municipal elections and your
00:47:52.720provincial elections are completely offset by like two years right and and
00:47:56.900that's on purpose so that they don't interfere with each other so this month you're going to
00:48:00.940have both because of this um snap election exactly and i think people are just the drip
00:48:09.180of things going to be a big thing in this election and yeah with the ndp naming simon
00:48:14.160fraser university with the indigenous nor indian name i think it's just to start they'll name it
00:48:20.060first so they're starting to take over all the land seconds so it'll be an easy to conquer0.89
00:48:24.860for them you know yeah interesting you know i don't know it's sad what's happening here and
00:48:31.280that's why i hope you guys succeed and i might have to move out there for all myself because
00:48:36.720i can't do it anymore i'm just getting tired of it well at the very least you can come visit your
00:48:41.700kids awesome thanks for calling randy thanks okay good luck hunting thanks john was there
00:48:49.580another call beeping on the line or hello hey it's marty there yes oh this sounds like uh brenda
00:49:03.740no it's diane oh diane of course diane from uh sherwood park or edmonton right
00:49:09.900devin devin marty yes oh i'm sorry i was having a hard time getting through to you i'm i'm calling
00:49:18.700because you were asking for people to call yeah yeah go ahead diane you you call your regular
00:49:24.620what's on your mind well um i mean you asked me something ask me a question i like to talk i know
00:49:34.780i i'm i all the topics you're talking about i'm um i'm educated in because i follow everything
00:49:42.540so you go you ask me something for a change okay i'll ask you something for a change so um
00:49:47.740But immigration is a sensitive topic because a lot of people, as soon as we talk about immigration, start to accuse us of being racist or whatever.
00:50:00.620Are we simply scapegoating immigrants for some of the problems or is there some truth to that?
00:50:08.100Have you experienced personally in your neck of the woods some little problems because of the recent huge growth?0.98
00:50:14.340well the it's the it was the growth is obviously too many people too fast i'm the furthest thing
00:50:25.240from a racist i have had um i worked with indian people from india that have been here for 30 35
00:50:33.120years who have kept their own culture but also assimilated into the canadian culture
00:50:39.620And had their children here, and their children were educated here, and I met their kids. One was a pilot, one worked in the automotive industry, and they assimilated to our culture.
00:50:54.120um the the you can't let three million people in in four or five years uh temporary and refugee0.66
00:51:04.280and whatever status they want to give everybody and not put any money into our health care system0.73
00:51:10.500or our education system or anything else that Canadians have had and expect that everything's
00:51:18.780just going to be going you know swimmingly like it was 20 years ago the the health care system is
00:51:26.320getting is getting crushed i i mean you know i told you before i'm 65 i really hope i don't get
00:51:32.200sick and have to um use those facilities because it's there's just too much pressure on it and they
00:51:40.940don't put money into it um i'm originally from windsor they've been trying to build like i'm
00:51:47.640not expatriating they've been trying to build a new hospital in windsor since 2002 when my mother
00:51:55.360was sick and it's now 24 years later and they just put a shovel in the ground there's two hospitals
00:52:04.280in windsor ontario that are like one is almost 100 years old i and i kid you not it was the nuns
00:52:12.660the Catholic nuns who used to run it and one that was maybe built 70 years ago where I actually had
00:52:19.000my children so my kids are almost 40 so um yeah they just are building a hospital now yeah so you
00:52:27.140you you so now they lack all these extra people in and what what like how how does anybody expect
00:52:35.520everything to work correctly right and and actually and I think you you helped me answer
00:52:41.500the question and you perhaps answered it we should not be scapegoating uh immigrants they
00:52:48.060just came here because they were invited here and and they came here through the process the pro the
00:52:54.940the people we the the politicians are using some politicians are using immigration as a scapegoat
00:53:02.300for their failures i think is probably a better way to say it right it's politicians that opened
00:53:07.900the door and let a whole bunch of people in without thinking of the consequences and they're
00:53:12.540the ones our anger should be directed at politicians not at the people who just showed up
00:53:17.100yeah you're you're you're right but it's the the problems with the canada not having enough people
00:53:27.860and the birth rate this is all going back 30 40 50 years with and a lot of people are not going to
00:53:36.300agree with me and this may not be very popular but because of feminism it has destroyed0.98
00:53:44.960um being a mother and womanhood and try to um have a husband and support your husband1.00
00:53:54.520and all the wonderful things that women are and it's it's tried to take that down and destroy it
00:54:03.420And that might not be popular, but now that I'm the age I am and I can look back, 100%, that's what they have tried to do.1.00
00:54:13.780And you're right about the extra taxes coming in from that extra person working in that house.
00:54:20.380And I feel sad when I hear young girls who are 20 years old now saying, I don't want to have kids because they're missing out on the absolute joy of a lifetime.
00:54:33.420Yeah, no, I, you know, like I said, I'm not a sociologist. I think I agree that the feminist movement and other things has put some pressure and dropped the fertility rate. But then also when I compare, let's say, two countries that are very similar, like Canada and the US, right, have very similar opinions about feminism and women and equality, but their birth rate is a lot higher than ours.
00:54:59.380So then I got to say that the final difference at the end of the day has got to be an economic one. Right. I mean, we're getting to the point where beyond feminism, it's so expensive here.
00:55:11.760I hear that all the time from people like we just can't afford to have kids. That's pretty sad. I hate hearing that.
00:55:17.680And I agree with you that that's part of it too. But I think this has been like a slow drip of a lot of different factors that brought us to this point.
00:55:32.220Right. I really do. I don't think it's just one. I don't think solving it the way the government has tried to solve it with just bringing in all these people that really propped up our GDP and everything because those people are all buying our consumers and they're all buying stuff and it's making everything look better.
00:55:56.760but it's i don't i don't see it unless i'm really a dumb person i just don't see that there's all
00:56:05.000this success happening now in canada am i dumb no no no i mean like i said um i talk about this0.88
00:56:13.080every week like it is shocking how people are people have to you and i are not dumb and others0.92
00:56:21.000are not dumb either but a lot of people are i think they're closing their eyes they're putting
00:56:24.600on the blinders they just don't want to accept it that they're that there's that things aren't0.89
00:56:29.480working it's it's it's yeah excellent okay well thanks and we talked to go ahead we we've talked
00:56:39.080about that before people people just don't want to see it right people just don't want to see it but
00:56:43.080anyway you take care of yourself i hope you have a very successful hunt and um take care of yourself
00:56:50.040thank you diane have a great weekend um yeah no all great points all great points yeah i mean
00:56:58.360just a personal story like i my my wife is itching to have grandkids like she's just
00:57:03.880itching itching right we have four adult children um none of them none of them have had kids yet
00:57:10.440and uh my oldest is 33 and and i i tell my wife like statistically because she comes from a big
00:57:18.280family we both do and and like i have i don't know like 16 nephews and nieces right so all the i have
00:57:25.320four kids my wife comes from uh uh my wife's sister has four kids my my wife's like everybody
00:57:32.040we all have big families my grant my parents had like you know seven grandkids my parents in-laws
00:57:37.720my in-laws have like 16 grandkids and i tell my wife like statistically you're just looking at
00:57:43.160an engineer i'm just a statistician we have four kids and so that statistically don't expect much
00:57:50.440more than three grandkids that's just it's sad but that's the way it is and my my wife is almost
00:57:56.200depressed at that thought but that's just the reality i don't know how we now statistically
00:58:02.040we're an outlier and i hope we will be no i shouldn't say that i hope we will end up being
00:58:08.360a statistical outlier but i'm not crossing my fingers because over the long term stats don't
00:58:14.140lie okay running out of time uh which i'm sorry if i was pushing it sounded like i was pushing the
00:58:21.200show uh i am honestly totally excited i will i love disconnecting the rule in camp like we have
00:58:28.960no cell phone one of the guys said hey i can bring my starlink we rule that out we voted it out there's
00:58:34.520no star link uh you won't be seeing a lot of tweets or posts from me while i'm hunting i know
00:58:40.760a couple of hills where i if i really want to reach out in an emergency i know a spot where i
00:58:46.500can use my atv go follow a trail up to the top of a hill and get some signal but even when i happen
00:58:52.440to go by there i might turn on the signal call home say hi honey i'm okay but i don't spend
00:58:56.960minutes or hours on the phone so i will be disconnecting i think it is so refreshing i'm
00:59:02.460lucky i do this frequently i disconnect all the time so um i won't be here next week somebody else
00:59:11.340i imagine josh or somebody else will do the show next week uh as i said uh not doing well if you
00:59:18.240want to join if you if you want to get a subscription you still can but uh for the
00:59:24.340time being the paywall has been lifted uh until the referendum is held so go and and look at all
00:59:31.960the stories that we that the western standard brings you and i guarantee you once you get to
00:59:37.560see all the stories you'll see that you it the ten dollars a month to get this kind of news
00:59:42.920is nothing it's a hundred dollars a year uh i wanted to talk more about the referendum i didn't
00:59:49.540you know uh i i didn't get to talk about keith wilson's transition council bringing out their
00:59:54.780document uh which is a fabulous document i'm sure somebody will talk about it i will just highlight
01:00:01.560one thing real quick i got my uh my my referendum uh checklist from elections alberta
01:00:09.320and confirming that the referendum is on the 19th mail-in ballots right now if you want a mail-in
01:00:15.560ballot you have until the 25th which is tomorrow if you didn't send in a letter to elections
01:00:20.840alberta to get a mail-in ballot it's too late but you can get one i think in person tomorrow if you
01:00:26.680go to one of the regional elections offices they've already received 600 000 requests for mail-in
01:00:32.840ballots i'm not in favor of mail-in ballots but i understand that a lot of people are getting them
01:00:37.640because they're worried that there might be lineups on the election day but this also confirms that
01:00:43.720there is advanced voting on tuesday the 13th wednesday the 14th 15th 16th and even saturday
01:00:51.640the 17th. So you have in all six days to go vote in person. So I'm pretty sure you can find the
01:00:57.640time to go do it. And it probably won't be that long. But anyways, I am totally out of time saying
01:01:03.760I won't see you next week, but I'll see you in two weeks from now. Hope everybody has a great
01:01:08.420weekend. And thanks for calling in. Cheers, folks.