Western Standard - May 06, 2022


Matthew Horwood chats with Dr. Leslyn Lewis about the CPC debate issues...

Topics
Known Traveller Digital ID and debates
Guests
Leslyn Lewis
Mentioned
Pierre Elliott Trudeau Airport Justin Trudeau
SPECIAL BROADCAST： The first Conservative Party of Canada Leadership Debate. Triggered： Conservative Party Leadership Debate Fireworks

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6 minutes

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Word count

1,130

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80

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In this episode, we sit down with candidate Leslynne Lewis to talk about her performance at the Canadian election debate, her views on conspiracy theories, and her thoughts on the pandemic crisis in Ukraine and Russia.

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00:00:00.000 All right, so we are here with Leslyn Lewis, who just wrapped up the debate.
00:00:03.620 Leslyn, what did you think of that?
00:00:05.140 That was very lively.
00:00:06.300 You had quite a showing.
00:00:07.480 You were very powerful in the way you spoke and almost attacked other candidates.
00:00:11.700 What was your strategy for tonight?
00:00:13.560 Well, I wouldn't use the word attack.
00:00:16.160 I'm very passionate about certain issues, and I want to know where the candidates stand
00:00:20.880 because my down-ballot votes, people want to know where the candidates stand.
00:00:24.940 So I was very assertive about ascertaining certain things, like what their policies are.
00:00:31.540 Yeah, that's fair enough.
00:00:33.460 At one point, we were discussing conspiracy theories,
00:00:38.200 and you said that a lot of conspiracy theories had come true.
00:00:41.280 What ones were you referring to over the past couple of years, I assume?
00:00:44.980 Well, over the past few years, people had thoughts about whether or not we would have a facility
00:00:51.480 to house people if they came in from the airport and where there would be quarantine facilities.
00:00:56.620 All of those things came true.
00:00:58.680 And so we have to start investigating when people have concerns,
00:01:04.320 when there are documents, real documents that highlight that certain things are going to take place,
00:01:10.380 the media still will call it a conspiracy theory.
00:01:13.440 Even the WHO World Pandemic Treaty, that is going to be signed in August.
00:01:18.360 And I had somebody from the media saying, well, that's a conspiracy, a global conspiracy.
00:01:23.460 It is not.
00:01:24.120 It is a real document that is going to be signed.
00:01:27.420 192 countries met on it.
00:01:29.520 And Canadians need to wake up and not be afraid of challenging their governments.
00:01:34.800 Our government is using the word conspiracy theory in order to quell,
00:01:40.440 in order to suppress debate.
00:01:43.620 Would you consider yourself to be a conspiracy theorist?
00:01:46.220 Would you use that label for yourself?
00:01:47.600 Well, I have a PhD, so I research, I look at data, I'm an intellectual.
00:01:54.720 And so somebody who's invested over a decade in higher education,
00:01:58.740 that doesn't fit in with their personality.
00:02:02.600 Yeah, for sure.
00:02:03.700 And vaccine passports, I recall, was one of those conspiracy theories that did end up coming true.
00:02:08.040 Now, you have chosen not to disclose your vaccine status,
00:02:10.660 but you were able to interact and go into Parliament and do all these things.
00:02:14.220 My question is, how were you able to do that if you wouldn't, you know, show your passport?
00:02:19.600 That's a good question.
00:02:20.400 I don't have a problem disclosing my vaccination status to a medical doctor, to a medical practitioner.
00:02:27.240 My problem is random people on the street asking me about my private medical situation.
00:02:33.420 That I will not disclose, because I don't believe it's anybody's business about my personal private medical situation,
00:02:41.480 whether I'm vaccinated or not.
00:02:43.000 But I will disclose to a competent health practitioner.
00:02:47.940 For sure, you've spoken quite a lot about the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum.
00:02:53.400 Could you tell me a little bit about your concerns for these organizations
00:02:55.860 and what you think that they're trying to do with Canada when they're, you know,
00:03:00.200 penetrating the cabinet of the country and kind of altering its course, so to speak?
00:03:07.000 Well, for example, there's a program called Known Traveller Digital ID.
00:03:14.800 It is a pilot program that has been entered into by Justin Trudeau's, our government,
00:03:22.100 Government of the Netherlands, Pierre Elliott Trudeau Airport, Toronto Pearson Airport, and Air Canada.
00:03:30.200 And that is to create a digital identity.
00:03:34.360 Canada is a country that is signed on to this agreement to create digital travel IDs for Canadians.
00:03:45.120 Nobody's talking about that.
00:03:46.920 And if you, even though the document is online, it's clear our country has entered into that,
00:03:53.180 it will be dismissed as a conspiracy theory until it goes through.
00:03:56.520 And it is going through.
00:03:57.540 And that's why we probably have the no travel mandates right now,
00:04:02.460 because we've entered into that program with the World Economic Forum.
00:04:07.260 The World Economic Forum is the sponsor of that Known Traveller Digital ID. 0.68
00:04:13.060 And I know that my colleagues have supported digital ID and digital currency, but I don't support that.
00:04:21.660 For sure.
00:04:22.520 Tonight, you pointed out that Pierre had not, as he said, immediately and at the beginning of the pandemic,
00:04:28.980 come out against lockdowns and these public health measures.
00:04:32.560 Do you sort of regret or do you wish that you had been more forceful in the beginning of the pandemic to speak out?
00:04:38.240 Or do you think that you were, you did speak out and you were saying enough in order to stop these things?
00:04:43.000 I spoke out so much, I don't, I didn't get a shadow cabinet position.
00:04:47.080 So I was very, very vocal about speaking out about these things.
00:04:52.460 I was very vocal about medical privacy.
00:04:55.520 I was vocal right at the beginning.
00:04:57.580 And I don't regret standing up for what I believe is right and standing up for Canadians.
00:05:05.900 For sure.
00:05:06.880 Switching to the Ukraine and Russia crisis.
00:05:09.180 When we spoke on the phone last, you said that you were going to give more consideration to the,
00:05:13.600 what was happening, the developing situation and come out with a more concrete plan about what you think Canada should do in response.
00:05:19.380 Have you given that any more thoughts?
00:05:20.380 And do you have more ideas of how we should respond that we're not doing right now?
00:05:23.960 Well, it's very concerning that we haven't developed our natural resources,
00:05:28.820 that we cannot offset that 40% dependency that Europe has on, on Russian oil.
00:05:36.240 It's very concerning that we share our Arctic border with Russia and that we don't have the capacity to defend it.
00:05:43.200 Russia has 40 submarines with torpedoes on it.
00:05:46.760 We have zero.
00:05:48.420 And so we have not invested in our military.
00:05:51.460 And it's very disconcerting that we cannot do more for the Ukraine.
00:05:55.780 I think that we should be able to supply more supplies, whether they are humanitarian aid or whether they're military aid.
00:06:07.700 But we cannot do that because we are in a vulnerable military position because we have been underfunded by the Justin Trudeau government.
00:06:15.840 Absolutely. And last question, really quick here.
00:06:18.720 Are there issues that you would like to see discussed in the next debate that we didn't get a lot of airtime this time around?
00:06:25.120 Oh, there are so many issues that we have to discuss.
00:06:28.300 Our economy, our global interaction with global organizations like the WHO, like the WEF, who are imposing on our sovereignty.
00:06:39.320 Those are real issues that we cannot discuss as conspiracies anymore because there's documentation to show that these things are happening.
00:06:49.840 For sure. Well, Leslyn, thank you very much for taking the time to speak with us. Always a pleasure.
00:06:53.100 Always a pleasure.
00:06:54.180 Thank you.