Western Standard - Maybe, Trump just wants Alberta...

00:00:00.000 I'm Derek Soldebrand,

00:00:29.420 Polisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline. Today is January 29th,

00:00:34.600 2025. I'm joined by one of our usual co-hosts, Western Standard Senior Alberta Columnist Corey

00:00:42.200 Morgan. Great to be back. Yeah, you're looking tanned. Yeah, darkened up a little, at least up

00:00:47.120 deep. Yeah. Oh, we're glad you're clothed. Nigel Hannaford is going to be away for a little bit.

00:00:54.220 He's off on some other business.

00:00:56.380 But filling in, we have the excellent Western-centered senior and news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:01:03.600 Feeling very pasty.

00:01:05.360 Oh, that's an English trait.

00:01:07.060 That's true.

00:01:08.620 You're a couple shades of water than Corey right now.

00:01:13.080 Yeah.

00:01:13.860 Well, we've got a great show.

00:01:17.780 I guess, you know, Donald Trump has talked a lot about making Canada the 51st state.

00:01:22.560 and it first seemed like a joke

00:01:24.820 then he kept on doing it

00:01:26.580 and it's gotten

00:01:29.080 a lot more serious

00:01:30.160 but I've got a theory we're going to talk about

00:01:32.860 I don't think he actually wants

00:01:35.020 Canada, I think he wants 0.95

00:01:37.160 Alberta

00:01:37.760 and I think there's strategic reasons for that

00:01:40.940 there's political reasons for it

00:01:42.460 geopolitical

00:01:43.980 economic and military reasons for it

00:01:46.860 I don't think he's after all of Canada

00:01:49.420 I think he's after the part of Canada

00:01:51.480 It's actually got the money. So we're going to talk about that and also just the flurry of activity coming out of the Trump administration in its first week here.

00:02:01.720 Speaking of activity, NDP leader Jagmeet Singh has opened the door, a crack or quite a bit now, to weaseling out of his commitment to bring down the liberals at the first opportunity in a non-confidence vote, regardless of who their leader is.

00:02:20.040 can he be bought off uh yes yes it can it seems and um well you know we all know the uh the mass

00:02:29.320 graves from the uh industrial genocide uh at cam loops uh well that went from a uh reported as a

00:02:38.680 certainty by much of the media in canada to a theory to a hoax to now a downright fraud new

00:02:45.680 documents that have been uh uncovered through access information requests uh have found that

00:02:53.120 the i i can't pronounce it i'll try to pronounce it but uh the first nation uh responsible or kind

00:02:59.160 of in the area overseeing this have received 12 million dollars of taxpayers money to uh get to

00:03:05.160 the bottom of uh these mass graves uh of children and um well not a dollar seems to have actually

00:03:14.040 spent on getting any evidence. It's gone to consultants, communications, speaking fees,

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00:04:12.200 Okay, so we've, I mean, I think it's been two out of every three weeks on the pipeline since pretty soon after Trump was re-elected in November.

00:04:25.280 We've been talking about his jokings, then musings, then threats about annexing Canada as the 51st state.

00:04:35.620 Now, the term 51st state, I always thought it was a bit funny because there's no way Canada would be a single state.

00:04:40.760 It's bigger than the rest of the United States combined.

00:04:43.980 It would obviously be more than one state, but that's neither here nor there.

00:04:49.780 And it actually turns up, in my thinking, maybe it is one state, but it's not Canada as the 51st state.

00:04:56.640 if the United States took in the whole of Canada it would massively upset the electoral balance

00:05:05.040 the balance of power between the Democrats and the Republicans that's why Puerto Rico doesn't

00:05:10.540 get to come in as a state because it would create a permanent democratic at least advantage in the

00:05:16.940 Senate with another two blue senators if you took in Canada with ostensibly I don't know between

00:05:24.380 seven and ten new states, the Democrats would rule for the very foreseeable future in the

00:05:30.600 United States, because most Canadian states, I mean, that's a weird thing to say, most Canadian

00:05:35.860 states would probably elect Democratic senators. It would upset the Electoral College significantly.

00:05:43.280 But I think Trump actually really wants all of Canada. I'm getting the idea that he's making

00:05:51.700 going to play for Alberta. And I know it sounds crazy. The whole topic is crazy. I have to pinch

00:05:56.680 myself every time I'm talking about it. But this is a real topic. And he's got some kind of play.

00:06:02.580 We don't know exactly what it is. But I'm coming around to the theory that he wants Alberta. He

00:06:08.400 gets the second, third, depending on how you measure it, the second, the third largest proven

00:06:13.280 oil reserve on the planet. The single largest private oil reserve on the planet. You'd get

00:06:21.680 We would be amongst the wealthiest of states, whereas most Canadian provinces would significantly lower the average GDP of the United States

00:06:28.180 and would require significant equalization, for lack of a better term, for a significant time before they're brought up to be more closer to the American average.

00:06:38.200 Alberta would actually increase the American average GDP per capita.

00:06:41.500 um and you know if he did take alberta it would probably fatally weaken canada economically

00:06:50.720 politically and geographically so that he could take the rest of canada uh thereafter canada

00:06:56.540 can't survive without alberta's money being pilfered from it every year um i can see a

00:07:03.080 circumstance here where he's going to impose his tariffs in a few days from now and ottawa

00:07:08.520 you know as we've discussed before would oppose an exit tax on alberta oil or something triggering

00:07:15.140 a national unity crisis um at which time trump could come to alberta and make a deal that's a

00:07:22.240 lot better than anything the rest of canada could offer you know dollar for dollar uh exchange rate

00:07:28.560 for our canadian pesos uh unlimited market access to alberta oil uh total end of all equalization

00:07:36.340 payments, probably money flowing actually into

00:07:38.560 Alberta for once on a net basis,

00:07:40.460 which we've never had in the

00:07:42.360 modern history of Alberta.

00:07:45.620 And he could try

00:07:46.400 to drive a wedge between Canada

00:07:48.140 and Alberta with a better

00:07:50.460 deal on the table.

00:07:52.360 Start with you, Dave.

00:07:54.080 It's crazy talk, but I think it's

00:07:56.280 talk that has to be taken seriously now.

00:07:58.460 No, not necessarily. I think it's

00:08:00.220 crazy talk.

00:08:02.220 What did Doug Ford's

00:08:04.320 hat say? Not for sale?

00:08:06.340 all that was made in china made in china yeah i he can bluster all he want he can bluster about

00:08:12.300 taking over panama he can bluster about taking over greenland uh but that's all it is i think

00:08:17.920 is just bluster uh you know you you do make some interesting arguments uh i just i just don't see

00:08:26.100 it happening maybe i'm got my head in the sand but uh you know every politician has said canada

00:08:33.180 is not for sale. Um, it's, you know, he's, it's the art of the deal with Trump, right? This is

00:08:40.080 his opening gambit. If you don't do what I do, I'm going to buy you. I just don't, I just don't

00:08:47.340 see it happening. Oh, Corey, it's Canada. Maybe it isn't for sale. Maybe Alberta is. Um, you know,

00:08:56.660 it's, you know, you know, Doug Ford says it's not for sale, but no offer has been made yet.

00:09:05.480 Alberta perennially gets a horrendous deal out of Confederation, and Alberta's best chance,

00:09:13.380 here, Polyev, said just days ago, he's not changing equalization, and he can't politically,

00:09:19.260 because he, to become Prime Minister, he needs the votes in the East, he needs them in Ontario,

00:09:22.880 I mean, equalization isn't a huge deal in Ontario, but it's a huge deal in Quebec, and it's a massive deal in the Atlantic provinces.

00:09:30.740 He can't become prime minister if he is willing to change it.

00:09:33.800 So even our best hope, it only gets marginally.

00:09:39.760 It does get a bit better, but it does get a lot better.

00:09:44.140 And who knows what happens?

00:09:45.680 Maybe the Liberals, in a circumstance where the Liberals actually managed to pull this out,

00:09:50.140 some polls are showing they've had a bump in it

00:09:52.760 Main Street and Ecos, Ecos are more hesitant to believe

00:09:55.100 but Main Street

00:09:56.920 you know

00:09:58.340 Main Street is not seen as a wildly

00:10:01.100 partisan pollster

00:10:02.980 Kito Maggie

00:10:03.480 let's say the liberals and the NDP

00:10:06.880 managed to pull something out with a

00:10:09.080 refreshed leader and Canadians buy it

00:10:11.160 for a little bit

00:10:11.740 and they want to use Alberta's oil

00:10:15.080 as the human

00:10:16.980 shield, human

00:10:19.060 economic shield

00:10:19.800 against trump uh you know we'd be faced with devastating economic consequences to prop up

00:10:25.400 parts of the country that have done us no favors over the last decades you know is that the time

00:10:30.700 when trump makes us alberta a deal not canada but alberta i can see him making an offer to shake

00:10:36.400 things up i just don't see the will being there among albertans and americans i mean it's trump's

00:10:42.700 got the will that's fine but he's like a kid with a couple of bugs in a bottle he just likes shaking

00:10:46.820 it up and watching them all fight. And, you know, there might be deeper motivations in trying,

00:10:51.740 you know, when you've got a disrupted country and you're trying to bring about new trade deals

00:10:55.440 and things, if they're busy scrambling, fighting with each other, you can really get some good

00:10:59.360 progress made. I think, again, in theory, would he like Alberta as a little carve out as a part

00:11:05.740 of the states and then be the man who brought it in? Sure. I mean, economically, it makes

00:11:09.180 fantastic sense. As close as anywhere in Canada, you're going to find people as politically

00:11:14.120 minded as Americans, you know, much less Republicans, it's Alberta. But I mean, those discussions have

00:11:19.840 happened a lot. Albertans have not really ever seriously debated joining the United States.

00:11:27.020 I'm just speaking among the independent set. So I mean, I did a lot of those speaking things with

00:11:30.660 with the groups, you know, when I was selling books and things like that. One of the guests

00:11:33.700 who was always speaking, he started the same way. He would actually do a straw poll in the room and

00:11:37.020 say, well, we're here looking at independence. What are your visions of it? You know, just a

00:11:40.660 stronger place with the confederation, full

00:11:42.640 independence, and he would also begin to have

00:11:44.340 or joining the United States. We're talking

00:11:46.780 2% in an independence-minded

00:11:48.880 room. I'd say six

00:11:50.840 months ago, 100%. And 2%

00:11:52.640 even among the independence crowd.

00:11:54.560 But we're in a different world than two months ago.

00:11:56.740 That's probably grown. So in an independence-minded

00:11:58.680 room, you might be at 20%. But among

00:12:00.560 Albertans in general, we're still looking at 5 or 10.

00:12:03.460 Nowhere near a tipping point

00:12:04.820 where we're looking at least at a

00:12:06.280 exodus. Actually, the poll taken

00:12:08.280 roughly a month ago had it about

00:12:10.340 20-25% in Alberta

00:12:12.580 and if you poll among younger

00:12:14.780 people, I haven't seen it broken down just for

00:12:16.740 Alberta, but on younger people across all of Canada

00:12:18.940 it's 40%

00:12:20.600 40% because

00:12:22.080 in large measure, and we've talked about this

00:12:24.640 previous episodes, because

00:12:26.840 Trudeau, his father

00:12:28.860 and others, but the whole constellation

00:12:30.820 of the Laurentian

00:12:32.860 and liberal elites here, have done

00:12:34.760 everything they can to destroy any attachment to Canada

00:12:36.900 Canada, at this point

00:12:38.600 in their own you know it's post-national it is a merely economic and political transaction

00:12:44.940 and as a economic and political transaction it's not good for alberta by any measure oh no there's

00:12:50.700 no good case so if someone offers a better transaction it's growing you know i i just

00:12:56.340 it's got to get a heck of a lot worse i think before people are ready to make that leap that's

00:13:00.140 my feeling on it i mean participating in a couple elections too where the polling when someone says

00:13:04.800 would you consider independence or if you had it with confederation you can find some great numbers

00:13:09.100 when it actually comes to the voting booth hey we got an independence candidate

00:13:12.760 yeah they would yeah i'm just saying you know the world's in a crazy place hey i i am not opposed to

00:13:19.620 the concept of upper independence and i'm no friend of the the federation as it sits but i

00:13:23.800 just think uh with what trump's doing it's bringing about more and more of those feelings

00:13:27.680 it's it's destabilizing as you said trudeau is really undercut any feelings of patriotism

00:13:33.100 I just think we've got a ways to go before it's a realistic thing that may happen.

00:13:36.380 We need to get the sense of pride back in this country, which is being decimated by, you know,

00:13:41.700 Trudeau taking Terry Fox off the passports and Vimy Ridge and trying to erase any sense of Canadian history

00:13:48.420 and John A. MacDonald's statue being tipped and covered in red.

00:13:52.920 We need Polly to get in there and let's fall in love with this country again. 1.00

00:13:58.960 Let's get Terry Fox on the $5 mill.

00:14:01.500 Let's get some Canadian pride going again.

00:14:05.460 Because when we do have that, we're a pretty damn good place to live.

00:14:08.940 Well, pride aside, though, I mean, that's the thing.

00:14:11.540 Polyev doesn't correct some of these things to the West,

00:14:14.320 because that's something I've always said.

00:14:15.760 He said he's not going to.

00:14:17.080 The permanent independence movements or people who adhere to it

00:14:19.660 come to it when conservatives screw them, not when liberals do. 0.77

00:14:22.080 You expect the liberals to screw you.

00:14:23.660 It's when Mulroney waited an extra year and a half

00:14:25.680 before getting rid of the national energy program when he came in.

00:14:28.160 It's when he canceled the, or gave the contracts to Quebec over Winnipeg for aerospace things.

00:14:35.520 And if Polyev doesn't do a bloody thing about things like equalization, you know, the misbalance of power and things like that, which he probably won't, that's when you see the slow burn that'll grow.

00:14:45.860 I mean, I see more of that bringing it about, though, than what Trump is doing right now.

00:14:49.020 Well, I generally agree. It happens when, you know, because we all, Albertans, Westerners, pin their hopes on the Conservatives.

00:14:55.820 normally falsely the conservatives make it a bit better but they don't they're less bad they're

00:15:01.020 less bad they you know they screw us less than the other guys and i think that would be the case with

00:15:06.180 polyev um i still think polyev is very likely to win the next election but there are signs of life

00:15:13.300 that maybe a new coat of paint on the liberals with the new leader who knows what they do out

00:15:19.860 east maybe it was just trudeau and not necessarily just the liberals and liberalism they were sick

00:15:24.260 of. If these guys were

00:15:26.140 somehow to hang on to power,

00:15:28.700 we're going to see some

00:15:30.160 different views. If those guys

00:15:32.160 manage to hang on to power,

00:15:35.200 I think that changes the calculus.

00:15:38.580 Oh, the fury would be unbelievable.

00:15:40.560 And, you know, we're going to talk a bit about that.

00:15:42.260 What they're doing to just rankling

00:15:44.040 is infuriating. I mean,

00:15:46.200 losing faith in the system. You don't feel

00:15:48.240 represented. No.

00:15:50.640 Dave, you wanted to talk about

00:15:52.320 some of the flurry of actions going on in the United States.

00:15:57.100 Trump's first week and a bit in power have been dizzying.

00:16:02.060 I've never seen anything like it.

00:16:03.820 Oh, no, it's absolutely crazy.

00:16:05.200 And for me, the best stuff right now is the president of socialist president of Columbia,

00:16:11.540 still in the fetal position underneath his desk, refused to accept a plane load of deportees from Trump.

00:16:19.400 So Trump, and keep in mind, he's playing golf.

00:16:22.780 So from his golf cart, orders, all right, immediate 25% tariffs,

00:16:26.600 immediate, you know, visa requirements, extended surges of luggage,

00:16:30.700 and, you know, revoking of all visas.

00:16:32.560 Freeze their assets.

00:16:33.560 Yeah.

00:16:35.140 Obviously, the president of Colombia capitulated 0.75

00:16:40.580 and took his murderers and rapists back.

00:16:45.880 You got the start of the ICE raids.

00:16:49.400 uh yesterday i think they rounded up 969 people to be deported still a long way they got a long

00:16:55.560 way to go to get to the million mark that trump has uh i think it's several million trump has

00:17:00.280 promised uh looks like they're doing it city by city it started in chicago in new york city

00:17:05.720 um today was supposed to be or aurora colorado i don't know why they're telling people in advance

00:17:12.760 but it's funny you see some of the footage from normally bustling like costco outlets in

00:17:18.200 in the States. They're just empty because nobody's going there because they're all afraid of being

00:17:22.040 picked up and put on the deportation bus. He's banned sexual, sex change operations on children.

00:17:33.200 It's banned as of yesterday. He's fired everybody. Basically, he's banned DEI. It's just,

00:17:41.220 it's a whirlwind. It's just breathtaking. I've never seen anything. He has literally done more

00:17:46.640 in a week than biden did in uh in uh in four years and he's enjoying himself you know he gets out on

00:17:53.260 the hustings and he's laughing and cracking jokes and he's like a stand-up comedian it's great

00:17:58.260 actually i think we also need to make a small shout out to some of the influence the war on

00:18:02.600 dei has had right here in alberta actually the alberta government uh laid off 18 i think uh

00:18:08.700 19 19 19 uh dei i would like to say do nothing unfortunately they do do something and it's

00:18:16.220 extremely destructive. 19 DEI employees in the Alberta government. I think there's a lot more

00:18:21.580 I think that needs to be done there, but they just let them go. Those are people who I am glad

00:18:26.440 to see out of work. Often, you know, if you're just a run-of-the-mill government bureaucrat,

00:18:32.540 I don't have anything necessarily against you. You're just pushing paper, doing your job,

00:18:37.140 even if it's a useless job. That's an actively destructive job. I'm happy to see those people

00:18:41.660 out on the street. Yeah. Last night, Trump offered buyouts to 2 million federal workers

00:18:46.560 to said he would save a hundred billion dollars. So yeah, if you're a Democrat and you're not a

00:18:53.960 fan of Trump, then yeah, don't be a hypocrite. Take the buyout. I mean, it's interesting. That's 0.99

00:18:58.440 something I've really been watching closely that, you know, DOGE, the Department of Government

00:19:01.680 Efficiency and with Elon Musk being tasked to take this on, because this is what developed

00:19:07.260 nations are suffering under, I mean, decades and decades of just bureaucratic bloat, and they need

00:19:12.220 to cut it without hesitation. And it's showing planning too, though. It's okay, we're not just

00:19:16.720 going to come in with a knife and lay off 2 million people, but we're giving them an out.

00:19:20.640 If you're relatively young, you're 40, here's 8 to 12 months of severance, basically, so you can

00:19:26.580 find your way into a new career. Here's your choice, though. You can choose that now or

00:19:30.840 hang on, but you might not make it through the cuts that are probably going to come.

00:19:34.940 he might not get as good a deal. So it's showing a harsh cut, but it's still not throwing them on

00:19:39.700 the streets and it's giving them a choice and it's giving them an option. And if you cut that

00:19:43.780 many out, you can bet the ones that might've been just kind of coasting and mailing it in

00:19:47.440 are suddenly going to find a work ethic. You know, they're suddenly going to realize, okay,

00:19:50.980 we've got six people in this office. I know two are going to disappear. I want to shine a little

00:19:55.440 bit. So I like where he's going and I hope it inspires Canada. Oh, we so need that here, don't

00:20:00.460 Oh, yeah. My show monologue reflects that.

00:20:04.240 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. We saw the pre-war in Argentina.

00:20:10.560 The mele, is that how you say it? Mele?

00:20:12.560 Mele, yeah.

00:20:13.640 Mele, mele?

00:20:14.480 Mele.

00:20:15.080 Mele, I think.

00:20:16.480 I could be.

00:20:17.040 I just follow the guy with the hair.

00:20:18.760 It's just a Wolverine.

00:20:20.760 Yeah.

00:20:21.300 Yeah.

00:20:23.100 And what a turnaround in Argentina.

00:20:25.980 I mean, it's been a basket case for generations, roaring back to them.

00:20:30.500 How quickly is amazing.

00:20:32.020 Yeah.

00:20:33.420 What we're seeing in the United States, I hope to God it's going to trigger something here.

00:20:37.120 And not just in Ottawa that's being run by the liberals, you know, when Polioff likely comes in.

00:20:41.380 But even here in Alberta, our conservatives here in Alberta, they've been great on a lot of fronts,

00:20:45.740 but they have been terrible, terrible at controlling the size of government, the number of bureaucrats, how much we're spending.

00:20:52.680 We're blowing yet again, of course, another oil.

00:20:57.560 It's not a total boom, but we're blowing pretty good times right now.

00:21:00.520 We're not saving.

00:21:01.180 We're not paying down debt nearly as much as we should.

00:21:04.580 I think Danielle Smith, her finance minister, Nate Horner, these guys have got to get the message here.

00:21:12.060 Look what's going on in Argentina.

00:21:13.300 Look what's going on in the United States.

00:21:15.080 It's time to put the scalpel away.

00:21:17.600 Let's pull out the axe. 1.00

00:21:18.660 Let's bludgeon the government to death. 0.99

00:21:20.500 or it's a chainsaw that melee or whatever uses 0.59

00:21:22.620 what is it, a fuego, he says

00:21:24.200 fire

00:21:24.880 what's his

00:21:28.000 slogan, I know in English it translates 0.99

00:21:30.620 long live freedom, damn it 0.99

00:21:32.340 yeah 0.99

00:21:32.640 god, we need some of that here

00:21:36.020 okay, well let's

00:21:37.940 we're going to turn two here now

00:21:40.460 so speaking of

00:21:41.880 things just continuing on

00:21:44.600 in Ottawa

00:21:45.240 NDP leader Jake Mead Singh

00:21:47.600 you know

00:21:50.160 loves to talk tough, you know, in the fall when it became clear

00:21:52.700 the NDP was suffering badly in the polls

00:21:54.740 because it was too closely attached to Justin Trudeau

00:21:56.860 and the Liberals.

00:21:58.020 He says, I'm ripping up the agreement.

00:22:00.180 You know, he said it like two dozen times, it felt like,

00:22:03.480 in his press conference.

00:22:04.760 Like, it was just sad, you know, that he was going to ask the question,

00:22:06.820 so you've got to vote against the government.

00:22:08.080 Well, as you know, I've ripped up the agreement.

00:22:10.360 Okay, well, you ripped up the agreement.

00:22:11.600 There's nothing going to vote against them.

00:22:12.680 Well, you know, I told you, I've ripped it up.

00:22:15.660 And he had to get cornered and cornered.

00:22:17.360 It just went on for months, and eventually Trudeau resigns,

00:22:19.480 And he says, yes, we're, well, we ripped it up.

00:22:23.620 And that means, as I've said the whole time, we're going to vote to bring down the government, trigger an election, no matter who the next liberal leader is.

00:22:30.840 First, as soon as Parliament's back from being prorogued, we're bringing it down, we're having an election.

00:22:36.800 Well, seem, you know, life finds a way.

00:22:44.940 Let's play this clip from Jagmeet Singh asked a question about just this.

00:22:49.860 If there's a way for him and the NDP to be bought off to support keeping the liberals in power a little longer.

00:22:56.620 Think about the analysis that's out there.

00:22:58.800 If those Trump tariffs come in place, there are hundreds and thousands of Canadian jobs at risk.

00:23:05.080 Think about what that means for those workers, hundreds of thousands of workers, for their families, for those communities.

00:23:11.220 This could be devastating for our country.

00:23:14.180 So we do need to have a plan in place to support those that are impacted, those businesses, those workers, most importantly.

00:23:21.140 I have not had any conversations with other opposition leaders.

00:23:24.480 I think we need to come together to have a discussion about what is the best way forward.

00:23:27.880 I've not had any discussions with the government related to this.

00:23:31.600 If there is any desire to move forward, the government should call us together, like we did during COVID, and discuss a plan that supports workers.

00:23:39.200 okay so yeah uh where there's a will to cling to power there's a way um the ndp still don't have

00:23:51.920 the money for an election they would have to borrow for this one as they did in the last one

00:23:55.260 they finally just paid off the debt from the last election they don't have war chest to go into a

00:23:59.300 new campaign uh they're pretty weak in the polls normally when the liberals collapse two-thirds of

00:24:05.180 the vote goes to the Conservatives. A third goes to the Liberals. It's just all gone to the

00:24:12.100 Conservatives. The NDP have not picked up anything because the Conservatives are so strong. The NDP

00:24:17.280 stance actually potentially lose several seats to the Conservatives. They're afraid of an election.

00:24:22.680 Everybody knows Canada needs an election. This country needs an enema. We need to clear out our

00:24:28.280 system. We need to get healthy, to be able to have any fighting chance whatsoever in dealing

00:24:35.020 with Trump. Like him or not, he's acting like a madman. And the example of Columbia is anything. 0.99

00:24:43.000 Doug Ford can put on whatever hat he wants. He can, you know, Doug Ford called, broke his own

00:24:48.200 election laws, calls an early election because he's going to send a message to Donald Trump.

00:24:53.180 Donald Trump isn't even going to know there was an election in Ontario. It doesn't matter if

00:24:56.720 Doug Ford wins zero seats or all the seats in the Ontario legislature or provincial parliament, as they say.

00:25:04.440 This country is just pretty hopelessly screwed right now, unless we have a federal election with a government with some kind of legitimate democratic mandate to represent the country.

00:25:14.940 Jake Mead Singh, though, open to being bought off with just more free money to go around.

00:25:20.600 It's all free money.

00:25:21.240 I'm sure it's a big coincidence that the Ontario election is being called right now

00:25:25.360 just as those checks are landing in Ontarians' mailboxes

00:25:29.060 200 Ford bucks. Ontarians getting free money

00:25:33.340 from the government for, I forget what their official reasoning is,

00:25:37.220 but it's obviously, they may as well actually just use the checks all Ontarians

00:25:41.180 are getting, just turn it over and that's your ballot. Fill out your candidate on the other side of the

00:25:45.160 check you got from Doug Ford. Jagmeet Singh I think

00:25:48.900 wants something similar. They're

00:25:51.240 The feds are talking about another COVID-style mass money give-out.

00:25:55.580 Remember the disaster that was CERB?

00:25:57.640 We spent tens of billions of dollars.

00:26:01.620 Fraud was rife.

00:26:03.220 Many people who legitimately should have got it

00:26:05.480 were actually ended up denied and ended up having to pay it back.

00:26:10.340 You know, it just looks like another free money giveaway

00:26:14.460 that the Liberals and NDP will want to hang on to

00:26:18.040 to try and maybe up their popularity.

00:26:19.820 I don't think it's going to work. You know, you had Chrystia Freeland and Justin Trudeau's big money giveaway and the GST debacle in the lead up to Christmas that actually didn't end up happening in the end.

00:26:31.520 That didn't move their popularity. It's just another gimmick.

00:26:34.080 But it looks like Jameet Singh is going to be willing to, at least quite possibly, keep the Liberals in power for a few more months, maybe all the way to October in exchange for some free checks.

00:26:45.820 in the prayer to the election gods

00:26:48.960 that this is going to turn their popularity around, Corey.

00:26:51.540 Yeah, it's pure desperation.

00:26:53.080 As you said, the NDP is hooped.

00:26:55.060 They can't gain any traction.

00:26:57.500 The Liberals are falling, the NDP's falling along with them. 0.95

00:27:00.520 Ironically, in pure foolishness,

00:27:02.940 politically hitching your wagon to the sinking ship

00:27:05.380 even more tightly isn't going to save them,

00:27:07.660 but it's going to buy them time.

00:27:08.940 And that's all they're doing is they're treading water,

00:27:11.360 praying, and he will cut whatever deal he has to

00:27:15.020 to stay in. But this is scary on a couple fronts, on a few. I mean, Canadians are furious. They're

00:27:20.960 ready for an election. They've signaled. And, you know, usually with polls in Canada, you always

00:27:24.120 see that Canadians want an election. 90% of the time, no, they never want an election. They never

00:27:28.180 want. Now, this last year, they've wanted an election. And as we see people like Singh and

00:27:34.320 Trudeau twisting the mechanisms, using it to drag this out, when we have a lame duck prime minister

00:27:39.880 are dealing with threats out of the border like we've never dealt with before. It's brutal. I

00:27:45.480 mean, so it's undermining faith in the country. Plus, the offer, he's cut a deal. I mean, it's

00:27:50.440 an offer. The bottom line is he wants it. And that's what Trudeau framed it, a spending program

00:27:55.240 the size of the COVID response, the size of CERB. It wasn't that long ago we had hyperinflation

00:28:00.880 going on. I mean, we had hyperinflation, but it was strong. And every country that tried to spend

00:28:04.900 their way out of covid dealt with years of inflation afterwards that's simple economics 0.70

00:28:10.020 and now if these clowns go spending tens of billions of dollars basically saying don't

00:28:14.820 worry about the trade war we can live on the credit cards we're in deep deep trouble we're 0.93

00:28:20.320 already in deep trouble and it's going to get worse actually before i don't go ahead i said

00:28:24.720 uh before we came in here i took a look at the western standard jagmeet singh pension countdown

00:28:30.400 clock and we're down to 26 days. Oh, just so you know, Derek, you don't know this, but

00:28:36.440 the Tories did the same thing today too. They launched a Jagmeet Singh pension countdown

00:28:42.620 clock. Oh, I'm glad we could inspire them. Exactly. So yeah, I mean, he's just cementing

00:28:48.380 his place in history as the most hypocritical Canadian politician ever. And he'll go down 0.99

00:28:57.260 is one of the most hated efforts

00:28:58.780 if he continues down this path.

00:29:02.240 So I want to put this up on the screen here.

00:29:04.660 I want to read from,

00:29:06.980 I'll give it to the studio here,

00:29:09.320 a tweet from Tristan Hopper.

00:29:11.060 He's a National Post journalist

00:29:12.580 based in Victoria.

00:29:14.220 I think he's just,

00:29:15.540 he's one of the funniest guys on Twitter.

00:29:18.080 And he put this well,

00:29:19.780 responding to the video that we just played

00:29:21.920 of Jaymeet Singh trying to weasel out

00:29:24.000 from his declaration

00:29:25.580 that he's ripped up the agreement.

00:29:27.260 You know what would be nice? Actual third world corruption instead of whatever this is.

00:29:32.140 I'd much prefer a system where Jagmeet Singh props up the new liberal government because they gave him a new car instead of another multi-billion dollar handout that accomplishes nothing.

00:29:41.480 I mean, it'd be cheaper. I mean, let's just bring the corruption and deal making right in.

00:29:47.140 Just do it old school. Give him another shiny watch. Give him another Maserati or up his pension.

00:29:53.380 I mean, I actually don't, I think it's, we need to actually get, I know this is going to sound bad, because no one likes MP pensions, we should not make them wait six years to be able to qualify for it, they should just qualify for it on the first day, because as nasty as that pension can be, this is, you know, having them make decisions that affect the whole country so they can get their pension is much worse and more destructive on the large scale. 0.99

00:30:20.100 We should just give them their damn pension on the first friggin' day. 1.00

00:30:23.420 And it gets bigger the longer they're there. 0.99

00:30:24.800 But they shouldn't have to wait six years to invest for it.

00:30:26.760 Bring the corruption into the open.

00:30:28.420 Let's just do it third world style. 0.98

00:30:30.580 You know, when I travel to a nice sunny country, I admire how openly corrupt everyone is.

00:30:35.840 They want money.

00:30:36.840 You know where to bribe and what you got to do.

00:30:38.280 Yeah, you don't have to think about it.

00:30:40.680 No, you got to pay this guy off to get that.

00:30:42.820 It's right in the open.

00:30:43.620 There's no dancing around and unsaid things.

00:30:46.880 It's just done.

00:30:47.800 It's done in the open.

00:30:48.420 And I think Canada needs that.

00:30:49.920 Let's make Canada full third world corrupt. 0.93

00:30:52.760 We're going to get a full third world economy pretty soon.

00:30:55.440 So we could be on our way there.

00:30:57.300 I mean, you look at what's going on in there, too, in the desperation.

00:31:00.700 I mean, it's clear that they're working towards a coronation for Carney.

00:31:04.060 And what's the vision, though, that he's going to be in?

00:31:06.500 He's going to sit for two weeks and then be thrown into an election.

00:31:09.460 It's going to be a catastrophe.

00:31:11.020 They want to buy time as desperately or more so than sing.

00:31:16.080 Carney wants time.

00:31:16.940 He would love to have three, four, five months to start campaigning, establishing himself, building his team, whoever's going to be running for election.

00:31:25.060 He needs all of that.

00:31:25.800 And he'll only have two weeks to do it otherwise.

00:31:28.320 So they will offer Sing virtually anything to stay in there.

00:31:33.880 And yeah, you know, this proposal of a bailout the size of COVID for tariffs that haven't even come in yet.

00:31:41.400 You know what?

00:31:41.820 If the tariffs don't come in, they're going to cut some other deal with it.

00:31:44.880 You can count on it.

00:31:46.940 All right. Well, let's turn it even closer to home here. Kamloops. So, you know, we recall, what was it? What year did Kamloops blow up?

00:32:00.980 20 or was it 2021? It was shortly into COVID, yeah.

00:32:05.400 around 2021 this blew up into the headlines um i mean there was something and that something

00:32:12.680 probably deserved to be a new story but it got really quickly blown up into mass graves of 0.52

00:32:19.160 children found at this former residential school in kamloops uh most of the legacy

00:32:24.200 media reported it that way and then the international press picked it up that way

00:32:27.000 our own government declared us a genocidal state uh next thing you know we're living in the frozen

00:32:33.320 in fourth reich and uh you know uh money was put a lot of money from taxpayers was put towards

00:32:42.440 getting to the truth of this and and i'm actually i was actually okay with putting some money to

00:32:46.100 where it's funny the truth this created a national moral panic well let's actually get the truth i

00:32:51.220 mean even if the graves are found you do know we bury people when they die um these these schools

00:32:57.140 were generally bad places.

00:32:59.980 And they had a high death rate

00:33:01.260 from things like

00:33:02.200 and all sorts of cholera.

00:33:06.420 You know,

00:33:07.040 you put a lot of people

00:33:07.740 in close quarters together

00:33:08.900 in places like this

00:33:09.740 back then,

00:33:11.080 it's going to be bad.

00:33:13.820 That doesn't mean necessarily

00:33:15.040 a genocide was taking place,

00:33:16.560 but let's get to the truth.

00:33:18.220 Let's find bodies.

00:33:18.900 Let's try to find causes of death.

00:33:20.800 And if there was

00:33:22.500 something bad going on,

00:33:24.700 I mean,

00:33:25.220 everyone's dead from that time

00:33:26.760 more or less, but at least try to hold the historical record to account. But we haven't

00:33:32.740 done that. We've pumped $12 million into just this, I can't say gravesite, because we haven't

00:33:38.260 even founded the graves. They haven't tried to excavate a single body, not one body out of this.

00:33:44.280 So this has gone from a certainty, to a theory, to a hoax, to, as you put it now, a fraud.

00:33:50.140 um i i i'm gonna apologize i mean i can't even pronounce french i'm gonna butcher butcher this 0.72

00:33:58.580 don't do it don't do it to kem plus tape suep mix first nation with the cam lips band

00:34:07.140 i mean it's probably more respectful to call it camus first nation because i just

00:34:11.620 yeah yeah that was my best um they've received 12 million dollars from taxpayers

00:34:18.080 and it's been spent on marketing and communications marketing what are they

00:34:26.040 what's being marketed marketing communications uh salaries for uh trauma counselors

00:34:33.920 uh administrative costs speaking fees and 25 consultants to provide advice to the chief

00:34:44.500 and council, but not one

00:34:48.540 excavation.

00:34:53.120 And it gets worse. Now they want another

00:34:56.700 $40 million. They want another $40 million

00:35:00.840 dollars. And this is all great journalism

00:35:04.740 done by our colleagues at Black Clock Reporters going through access to information.

00:35:08.620 They want another $40 million to fix up the school

00:35:11.420 and to uh and to build a build a memorial there 40 million dollars memorial to what they haven't

00:35:18.540 proven graves yet and that's where you have to kind of get right back to the very beginning of

00:35:22.280 where this whole nightmare began because i mean they lowered the flag for six months we were you

00:35:26.040 know the pope came over to grovel in front of uh nation's people this all came out from oral 0.99

00:35:32.420 testimony at the truth and reconciliation from guys who said as recently as in the 60s babies

00:35:38.860 were murdered and strung up and children were taken out in the night and forced to bury their

00:35:43.900 compatriots in the apple orchard. That's what this search was all about. So possibly if this

00:35:48.540 happened, the perpetrators might still actually be alive. This is the 60s we're talking, you know,

00:35:54.260 they'd be pretty old, but they could still be kicking. Theoretically, then you want to get

00:35:59.040 down, you want to find those victims, you want to start an investigation and catch them. And they

00:36:03.260 did their gpr thing found all the septic tiles labeled them as bodies and this all came to where

00:36:09.700 it is now the absurdity of it all you need to do is dig a six foot bloody hole you can hire 0.63

00:36:16.540 a new canadian to come in for a hundred dollar afternoon sink a hole six feet and confirm if 0.85

00:36:22.700 there's a body there or not that's all it had to be done it could have been done within weeks it

00:36:26.080 could have been done for less than a few thousand dollars part of what happened is things dragged

00:36:30.520 out too though the cam cell hospital in edmonton did a gpr study based on oral history of a bunch

00:36:35.260 of native bodies buried there and they found nothing but construction rubble 32 different

00:36:38.860 spots they dug holes and in manitoba i believe it was it was a church basement where theoretically

00:36:43.500 babies and children were buried in such gpr found anomalies they dug holes they found nothing that's

00:36:50.620 where this is getting onto fraud these guys bloody well know there's nothing down there now

00:36:54.420 but when we're talking people making millions of dollars out of the hoax now it's fraud now

00:37:00.060 they're robbing us on a hoax

00:37:02.580 and it's unforgivable. You know what, eventually

00:37:04.520 we might, if that $40 million goes through

00:37:06.620 I'm going to have to do the math, but it's

00:37:08.560 going to approach about half a million dollars

00:37:10.320 per suspected hole.

00:37:13.340 I mean, those are expensive holes.

00:37:15.160 Here's my idea.

00:37:16.860 Everyone

00:37:17.340 who says this is a matter-of-fact genocide

00:37:20.400 and it's a mass graveyard

00:37:21.820 will pay you a million dollars

00:37:24.760 per hole to dig.

00:37:26.820 But if there's nothing at the bottom of the hole

00:37:28.700 you've got to jump in.

00:37:30.060 if they got strength in their theory

00:37:33.500 hey, a million bucks, I got nothing to lose

00:37:35.520 you know, that's a good deal

00:37:36.800 pay me a million dollars to dig a hole

00:37:38.820 and if there's what I don't think is at the bottom of that hole

00:37:41.380 I gotta go in it

00:37:43.040 and the liberals are going so far as to

00:37:45.480 take what Corey just said there

00:37:47.260 and throw them in jail for denialism

00:37:49.420 presidential school denialism

00:37:50.620 oh, there's an NDP bill with liberal support

00:37:52.700 died on the order paper

00:37:54.460 I guess it died with propagation

00:37:55.780 but they want to criminalize

00:37:59.120 even questioning this and this money according to the access to information stuff it's in the

00:38:05.520 pipeline it's being approved and you know that could even be already good pun and aside from

00:38:12.000 the money being spent and wasted and i'm getting to the point of as i said i'm willing to call it

00:38:16.440 fraud and people almost criminally to the point of taking our money on something that didn't happen

00:38:20.320 but the damage that's being caused on an already socially troubled people the people there who do

00:38:26.260 believe this happened, the people who are believing these

00:38:28.380 stories, the people who aren't looking deeper and realizing

00:38:30.280 that this is a bunch of baloney, they're pretty

00:38:32.340 bloody upset. And they should be. I mean, if you really believe 0.96

00:38:34.700 that your ancestors were abused

00:38:36.480 in the school and the children were forced

00:38:38.380 to bury them, you're going to be outraged.

00:38:40.440 Now you become more embittered and

00:38:42.420 you have even more issues going on.

00:38:44.260 You're going to create potentially violent extremists.

00:38:46.540 Because if you believe that this is a

00:38:48.420 genocidal country until extreme, actually

00:38:50.220 according to Trudeau, we're still

00:38:52.500 a genocidal country.

00:38:53.640 I mean, if that's the case, then we should drag Trudeau

00:38:56.400 to the Hague right now and put him on

00:38:58.420 crimes against humanity.

00:39:00.340 But, I mean, if people

00:39:02.260 believe this stuff, and you're from

00:39:04.300 those communities,

00:39:06.040 it'd be understandable. They could become violent

00:39:08.440 extremists. How many churches got burned?

00:39:10.640 They've become violent extremists already,

00:39:12.560 some of them. And it's, again,

00:39:14.440 it's unforgivable. This needs resolution.

00:39:17.100 One way or another.

00:39:17.700 Where do you stand on it?

00:39:19.540 This is where there should actually be unity

00:39:21.500 among people you would think the people who believe their bodies down there should be supporting

00:39:25.240 exhuming the bodies they're spending a hundred and some million to dig a garbage dump in winnipeg

00:39:29.580 to find a few indigenous bodies two actually that may be there but you won't dig a hole over here 0.99

00:39:36.180 the double standard too it's sacred to recover these bodies and put them proper rest if it's

00:39:39.640 in winnipeg but it's sacred now that we can't disturb and move these bodies that allegedly

00:39:43.780 are there in kamloops i i don't get this you guys you'd think the families should be there

00:39:48.740 saying we want to repatriate these murdered remains and bring them back to the reserve.

00:39:52.220 But the problem they also have is spending $12 million so far as they haven't found anybody reported missing yet.

00:39:57.800 That's the other thing. It's not like you had all these missing children. It's brutal.

00:40:04.120 We're in the wrong rackets.

00:40:05.400 There's no political will.

00:40:06.260 We are in the wrong job. I'm going to get in the hole digging business.

00:40:10.560 Actually, the hole, the not digging holes business.

00:40:13.680 Yeah, the anomaly business.

00:40:14.700 Because the last thing they seem to want is to actually dig some holes.

00:40:17.900 No.

00:40:19.660 Okay, gentlemen, our parting shots. Let's start with you, Corey.

00:40:23.640 Sure. I mean, I've played around in a lot of partisan politics in the past and leadership races and things such as that.

00:40:29.640 So we're watching this liberal debacle now, though. I mean, a little bit of sympathy has to be given.

00:40:35.980 They were rushed into it. I mean, they might have should have seen it coming.

00:40:38.800 But when you suddenly are splattered in due to a resignation and with such a hard timeline, they can't take six months.

00:40:44.440 It's a mess. It's easy to sign up. Anybody can.

00:40:46.920 And well, the first candidate out of the gate is that Chandra Arya, a three-time Liberal

00:40:50.740 Member of Parliament.

00:40:52.160 Current Member of Parliament.

00:40:53.300 Yeah.

00:40:53.620 I mean, he's good enough for the Liberals as an MP and everything, but he was gaining

00:40:56.660 some good steam, of course.

00:40:57.800 He uses the ethnic community and others as the way that works in that type of political

00:41:01.180 game.

00:41:01.940 Clearly, he was gaining some good momentum because anybody could sign up because it's

00:41:04.780 free to sign up for a Liberal membership.

00:41:06.560 It's worth exactly.

00:41:07.300 He wouldn't have won, but he could have gotten some votes in the pool.

00:41:10.420 Perhaps.

00:41:10.920 I mean, it must have been something because they kicked him out of the race.

00:41:14.160 They won't give a reason.

00:41:15.480 Haven't given a reason.

00:41:16.920 They've kicked him out of the race.

00:41:18.040 I mean, already limited credibility with that entire party as it stands.

00:41:22.160 How much credibility can you give to the leader now when you're disqualifying contenders who were good enough to be a member of parliament, but now can't run for the leadership?

00:41:29.320 So this race that was already bad is now just a joke. 1.00

00:41:31.840 Well, if he's not allowed to run for leader, maybe he shouldn't be allowed to run for an MP.

00:41:34.740 He's clearly got something wrong with him.

00:41:36.720 The liberals should probably tell us.

00:41:38.000 Well, they won't say.

00:41:38.640 The only other thing they'll say is because some people have been saying it's because he doesn't speak French well enough.

00:41:42.500 Or English. 0.99

00:41:43.320 Well, that'll make some interesting discussions among, you know, new Canadians running for political office and those darn liberals. 0.99

00:41:50.400 Of course, they never have elected a woman yet either. 0.98

00:41:52.380 So maybe they do have some issues.

00:41:54.280 Yeah.

00:41:54.960 Dave, your parting shot.

00:41:56.740 I sat engrossed yesterday afternoon watching the first Trump press conference by his new press secretary.

00:42:03.740 And holy cow, what a breath of frustration. 0.96

00:42:05.860 so you know from the from the lying lesbian of the past four years where she had to every answer 1.00

00:42:12.140 she had to look up in her manual to uh to this new lady who uh for an hour just asked questions 1.00

00:42:18.700 and answered answered them off the top of her head a breath of fresh air and a shout out to 0.77

00:42:24.480 them for allowing independent media back into the white house uh press room uh so any independent

00:42:31.280 media can apply. We can apply. I'll be your Washington bureau chief. Go down there and

00:42:36.880 send their questions. We'll probably have an easier time getting there than we do getting to

00:42:41.060 the new liberal leadership. So a nice breath of fresh air there. We would probably have an easier

00:42:47.060 time getting into the White House than a Mark Carney campaign event. Okay. And it's a prettier

00:42:51.620 Satan. Yes. Well, this will maybe date it a bit, but I just want to bring a note to the

00:42:59.660 confirmation hearings of RFK, who is RFK Jr., who is before the Senate right now.

00:43:08.700 I mean, there's been a lot of colorful confirmation hearings in the last week as

00:43:14.880 as Trump's cabinet picks go through the Senate.

00:43:19.780 But this is one of the most interesting.

00:43:22.260 I mean, he's got that kind of strained, gravelly voice.

00:43:28.460 But it's funny watching the Democrats in that committee

00:43:32.600 kind of twist themselves up

00:43:34.280 because he comes from the royal lineage of the Democratic Party.

00:43:40.220 There is no more royal family than the Kennedys.

00:43:42.680 and watching them turn themselves inside and out.

00:43:47.640 I'm even starting to sound a bit like RFK right now.

00:43:51.460 But yeah, just keep watching these confirmation hearings.

00:43:55.120 They are just hilarious to watch.

00:43:58.900 You know, the Democrats are thinking,

00:44:00.320 are you trying to take away people's Big Macs?

00:44:02.440 He's like, no, my boss, everyone knows my boss loves Big Macs.

00:44:06.100 He tried to make me eat one, for God's sakes.

00:44:08.800 I'm just saying, if you want to eat a Big Mac,

00:44:10.520 you should know what's in the Big Mac.

00:44:12.680 And I think that'll be a breath of fresh air.

00:44:16.740 Obviously, I don't want the United States federal government banning reasonable foods for people to eat.

00:44:21.020 That'd be obviously massive overreach into people's lives.

00:44:24.040 But something needs to be done because Lyft drivers are having a real trouble right now fitting their customers.

00:44:33.140 RFK is not going to be happy with the new Burger King donut burger.

00:44:36.660 Oh, yeah.

00:44:37.260 A nice burger with a donut instead of a piece of bread.

00:44:41.360 You can hear your arteries hardening as you look at it.

00:44:43.600 I mean, it sounds disgusting, but...

00:44:45.820 It probably tastes delicious.

00:44:47.600 It doesn't sound good to me, but you might want to eat one just because of America.

00:44:52.460 The best RFK story is when he cut the head off a whale and tied it to the roof of his bar.

00:44:59.380 And all the guts started oozing in through the windows, and his kids in the backseat screaming in horror.

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Western Standard - January 30, 2025

Maybe, Trump just wants Alberta...

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