Western Standard - January 13, 2023


Michelle Stirling of Friends of Science on the ＂Just Transition＂


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20 minutes

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163.764

Word Count

3,429

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213

Misogynist Sentences

2

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4


Summary

In this episode, Michelle Sterling from the Friends of Science joins me to talk about the government's plan to transition Canada's energy supply from fossil fuels to renewable energy, and why this is a bad idea. She also talks about the lack of technical support Canada is getting from the energy sector, and what we should do about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Michelle Sterling from the Friends of Science on.
00:00:01.900 Hi, Michelle.
00:00:02.460 It's good to have you back.
00:00:03.540 I think you were one of my last guests
00:00:04.880 when I kind of wrapped up the daily show I had on the go,
00:00:08.220 and I'm glad we've got the chance to get you back on.
00:00:10.280 So welcome back.
00:00:11.720 Thanks so much, and happy new year to everyone.
00:00:13.900 And to you.
00:00:15.400 So yeah, you know, well, as when I reached out,
00:00:18.320 I mean, something that's big in the news,
00:00:19.580 something a lot of discussions going on about
00:00:21.560 is the just transition.
00:00:24.000 You guys addressed that at length back in April,
00:00:26.840 trying to, you know, lay out what it's about and everything,
00:00:29.160 but perhaps if we could start there,
00:00:31.300 because people are now, of course,
00:00:32.440 all arguing about what it may mean or what it's about.
00:00:34.940 I mean, what is the just transition?
00:00:37.660 Well, it's hard to know.
00:00:39.300 Like, it's a bit of a foggy day, if you like,
00:00:42.420 when you look at the just transition,
00:00:44.320 because there's a nine-page report on the government website
00:00:49.160 that talks about the just transition
00:00:51.660 and how they want to be good to workers
00:00:54.360 who are in industries that will be phased out,
00:00:57.340 presumably oil, gas, and coal.
00:01:00.800 But what are they going to transition to?
00:01:03.660 I mean, there's just no transition, if you like.
00:01:07.900 So all the things like wind, solar,
00:01:12.760 any novel form of energy like hydrogen,
00:01:16.480 it all requires oil, gas, and coal
00:01:18.880 to make the devices to power the units
00:01:22.960 that install them, that maintain them,
00:01:25.040 that back them up.
00:01:25.840 So, you know, what are they really talking about
00:01:28.700 in a just transition?
00:01:30.440 Because what are you going to transition to?
00:01:33.520 You're going to transition to electricity?
00:01:36.360 Well, electricity is a secondary form of energy.
00:01:40.080 It's generated by something,
00:01:42.280 usually natural gas, hydro, or coal,
00:01:46.540 or nuclear, or maybe biomass.
00:01:49.560 But, you know, I have some statistics here
00:01:51.440 from Natural Resources Canada,
00:01:53.400 just to kind of put this in perspective for people.
00:01:57.140 Of Canada's primary energy consumption in 2019,
00:02:01.600 crude oil, natural gas, and natural gas liquids
00:02:04.680 accounted for 71% of the total,
00:02:07.720 uranium, 16%, coal, 5%, hydro, 5%,
00:02:12.780 and other renewables like biomass
00:02:15.000 and wind and solar combined, 3%.
00:02:19.460 So we're not going to transition
00:02:21.600 to wind and solar overnight, or at all,
00:02:25.960 because we're going to need oil, gas, and coal
00:02:29.400 to make all those things.
00:02:31.820 And excluding uranium, fossil fuels accounted
00:02:34.240 for 76% of Canada's total primary energy supply
00:02:38.160 in 2019.
00:02:39.380 And biofuels, waste, 4%.
00:02:42.740 And wind and solar, 1%.
00:02:45.860 So they're deluding you.
00:02:49.020 They're deceiving you.
00:02:50.020 They're misleading the public
00:02:51.340 because there's no way that you can actually
00:02:54.200 do this kind of transition.
00:02:55.980 It's impossible.
00:02:57.040 And it's also technically and economically impossible.
00:03:01.020 We've got a report by Ken Gregory,
00:03:03.640 our research director,
00:03:05.080 and he did an analysis of decarbonization
00:03:07.380 in the United States.
00:03:09.100 It would cost trillions of dollars,
00:03:12.020 13 times the GDP of the U.S.
00:03:14.900 to decarbonize the U.S.
00:03:16.820 And we did an assessment of RBC's $2 trillion plan.
00:03:22.720 And it's way, way, way underestimated.
00:03:25.120 So, you know, we have professional engineers
00:03:26.920 who know how things work,
00:03:28.900 rather than ENGOs that are modeling on a computer
00:03:32.400 and going, look, we can make Canada run on hydro
00:03:34.760 from Quebec, ha-ha, you know, you can't.
00:03:37.940 Quebec is already out of hydro
00:03:39.780 with their present EV and electric heating policies
00:03:44.600 in Quebec.
00:03:47.360 Parker Gallant wrote an article
00:03:49.540 about how throughout the coldest days of winter,
00:03:52.600 it's natural gas in Ontario
00:03:55.260 that's propping up Quebec.
00:03:57.920 So, you know, this is some kind of bizarre delusion
00:04:02.700 by the federal government
00:04:03.840 to think that they're going to transition to anything.
00:04:07.780 That's my rant.
00:04:09.220 No problem.
00:04:10.160 That's the ranting is what this show is about.
00:04:12.000 And it's a good one.
00:04:13.020 And part of it, I think,
00:04:14.280 what gets a lot of people nervous, though,
00:04:17.160 is, okay, this government just doesn't seem
00:04:19.120 to be working within common sense.
00:04:21.440 But most of the economic indicators,
00:04:24.140 world demand, indicate that there's going
00:04:26.500 to be very strong demand for our oil and gas
00:04:29.060 for decades to come.
00:04:30.260 We have a labor shortage
00:04:31.480 in the oil and gas sector right now.
00:04:34.160 Why would we even be thinking
00:04:35.320 about transitioning people out of it?
00:04:37.140 We should be training people to get them into it.
00:04:39.060 We should be maximizing our production
00:04:40.720 for this world need.
00:04:42.320 But that's what makes us fear
00:04:43.560 that the government's going to push them out
00:04:44.740 and create the need to transition them.
00:04:47.300 And that's nerve-wracking.
00:04:48.400 Right.
00:04:49.560 Well, I suspect that some of this bad advice
00:04:51.660 has come from McKinsey and company.
00:04:54.080 I think everyone should read this book.
00:04:56.620 And it will explain a lot of things
00:04:58.240 that have happened in Canada
00:04:59.300 because they've been a big advisor
00:05:01.780 to the federal government.
00:05:03.860 And we did a report called Grounded in Reality
00:05:06.500 a couple of years ago
00:05:07.900 that was countering smart prosperity.
00:05:10.900 And at the time, McKinsey had come up
00:05:13.900 with this notion that over the next decade,
00:05:16.280 $60,000 jobs would be created every year in cleantech.
00:05:21.560 Well, that never happened
00:05:23.140 because that market doesn't exist.
00:05:26.500 It's a non-starter.
00:05:29.880 You know, in the Just Transition Plan
00:05:32.620 that I mentioned earlier,
00:05:34.440 the government has $15 billion for investments,
00:05:38.560 $15 billion for public transit,
00:05:40.360 $17.6 billion for green recovery,
00:05:43.380 whatever that is.
00:05:45.160 You know, these are billions of dollars
00:05:46.800 that are just obviously flowing
00:05:48.300 to the pockets of green grifters,
00:05:50.660 green crony capitalists.
00:05:52.440 And you have to realize,
00:05:53.500 as you just said,
00:05:55.380 the global energy demand
00:05:57.540 is only going to grow.
00:05:59.100 Western nations,
00:06:00.300 this is North America and Europe,
00:06:02.360 we're only 15%
00:06:03.800 of the world's population.
00:06:06.360 We have a report by Robert Lyman
00:06:07.860 called When Giants Arise.
00:06:10.280 And when you realize,
00:06:12.120 you know,
00:06:12.360 all these developing nations
00:06:14.100 like China, India, Brazil,
00:06:17.880 Nigeria,
00:06:18.920 and other places in Africa,
00:06:21.140 these countries
00:06:22.420 demand huge amounts of energy.
00:06:25.520 They want the same kind of status
00:06:28.080 and living circumstances that we have.
00:06:31.000 And they don't care about the Paris Accord.
00:06:32.900 They see it as a way of,
00:06:35.520 you know,
00:06:36.040 really, I think our competitor nations
00:06:37.900 see the Paris Accord
00:06:39.160 as the perfect way to launch
00:06:40.700 a green trade war against us
00:06:43.520 by claiming that
00:06:45.220 if we Canadians
00:06:46.440 shut down our oil and gas,
00:06:48.600 we will be saving the planet.
00:06:50.180 In the meantime,
00:06:51.640 they don't care.
00:06:53.100 They'll just do whatever is best
00:06:54.640 for their people.
00:06:55.740 So, you know,
00:06:56.560 it's ironic to think
00:06:57.600 that places that we might call dictatorships
00:06:59.740 actually have governments
00:07:01.380 that care more about their people
00:07:03.100 than our government does.
00:07:05.600 Well, yeah,
00:07:06.340 I mean,
00:07:06.600 it's hypocritical
00:07:07.340 and it's heartless.
00:07:08.220 I'm going to rant about McKinsey
00:07:09.240 a little bit after this segment as well.
00:07:11.180 I have them on deck
00:07:12.060 because it's been coming to light.
00:07:13.400 Just there's some pretty questionable dollars
00:07:15.860 have been going towards
00:07:16.700 that organization
00:07:17.460 from our pocket.
00:07:18.640 And as you said,
00:07:19.380 and then the outcomes you get
00:07:20.460 are that torqued sort of ideological crap
00:07:23.400 that they advise
00:07:24.520 and saying with these green jobs.
00:07:25.680 Another area they talk about
00:07:26.840 is these tech.
00:07:27.980 And they just say tech
00:07:28.740 is some broad overwhelming thing.
00:07:30.460 We'll just get everybody into tech.
00:07:31.900 You'll all learn to code
00:07:32.900 and you'll work making video games
00:07:34.620 or something or for Amazon.
00:07:36.180 But again,
00:07:37.120 when we're looking,
00:07:38.400 all of the tech sector
00:07:39.740 are shedding jobs right now.
00:07:41.460 Twitter laid off thousands.
00:07:42.840 Amazon's laying off thousands.
00:07:44.580 All of the heavyweights out there,
00:07:47.160 Shopify even,
00:07:48.100 are cutting their staff dramatically.
00:07:50.380 Why on earth
00:07:50.940 would we be telling people
00:07:51.860 leave this booming industry
00:07:53.480 that's paying you well,
00:07:54.600 that has lots of world demand
00:07:56.260 and will for decades
00:07:57.600 and jump into this sector
00:07:59.540 that'll pay you half as much
00:08:00.740 if you can find a job
00:08:01.880 because they're laying
00:08:02.560 everybody off right now.
00:08:03.740 It's ludicrous.
00:08:05.360 Right.
00:08:05.640 And I mean,
00:08:06.500 I think people have to put
00:08:07.780 two and two together here
00:08:08.980 on big tech.
00:08:10.840 Like McKinsey
00:08:12.360 and the UNPRI
00:08:14.120 have promoted high tech
00:08:18.320 as clean,
00:08:19.560 as if it doesn't have
00:08:20.660 a carbon footprint at all.
00:08:22.680 And you hear Apple saying,
00:08:24.300 oh, you know,
00:08:24.820 we're 100% renewables.
00:08:26.260 Google is 100% renewable.
00:08:28.340 Well, guess what?
00:08:29.040 These guys have just been
00:08:30.020 buying renewable energy credits
00:08:32.140 to make themselves look
00:08:34.340 as if they're running on renewables.
00:08:36.300 These are huge,
00:08:37.460 huge energy consumers.
00:08:39.200 So just imagine
00:08:40.260 you've been telling
00:08:41.120 the public and investors,
00:08:42.720 you've been playing
00:08:43.540 your ESG game.
00:08:45.040 Now for decades,
00:08:46.760 you've been pretending
00:08:47.740 that you're clean tech
00:08:48.980 and that you have
00:08:49.600 no carbon footprint.
00:08:51.160 And all of a sudden,
00:08:52.320 energy prices in the world
00:08:53.760 skyrocket
00:08:54.720 and your operation
00:08:56.700 is in the dumper
00:08:58.260 because you're not
00:08:59.540 making money anymore.
00:09:00.800 It used to look like,
00:09:02.460 hey, you know,
00:09:03.040 we're providing
00:09:04.600 this virtual
00:09:05.760 material to the world
00:09:09.040 so it has no carbon footprint.
00:09:11.060 Well, in the back,
00:09:12.060 it has a really big one
00:09:13.400 and now you have to pay
00:09:14.620 double, triple,
00:09:15.980 whatever for it.
00:09:16.820 and the renewable
00:09:18.600 credits market
00:09:19.920 isn't going to do you any good
00:09:21.700 because those are real costs.
00:09:24.040 Anyway,
00:09:25.260 yeah, and again,
00:09:26.120 it's McKinsey
00:09:26.960 that worked with
00:09:28.260 Climate Works Foundation
00:09:29.840 in the States
00:09:30.600 to put together
00:09:31.500 the Design to Win plan
00:09:32.800 and many of those people
00:09:34.320 are the funders
00:09:35.320 of the Tar Sands campaign
00:09:37.180 against Alberta.
00:09:39.400 So their objective
00:09:40.820 was to push clean tech.
00:09:42.280 They want to create,
00:09:43.760 they actually want to create
00:09:45.120 a sea change
00:09:45.980 in the global economy,
00:09:47.500 create two cap
00:09:48.360 and trade systems worldwide
00:09:49.820 and ultimately,
00:09:52.060 the goal is
00:09:52.600 for every person
00:09:53.400 to have a personal
00:09:54.320 carbon ration.
00:09:56.760 And so,
00:09:58.780 you know,
00:09:59.580 how does that all relate
00:10:00.940 back to the just transition?
00:10:02.520 Well,
00:10:03.160 I'm not too sure
00:10:04.120 but if you have
00:10:05.380 a personal carbon ration,
00:10:07.400 then I guess,
00:10:08.340 you know,
00:10:08.880 everyone can get
00:10:09.880 climate money
00:10:10.920 on your universal basic income
00:10:13.820 and,
00:10:14.620 you know,
00:10:15.760 these are all the factors
00:10:16.780 that are playing
00:10:17.620 into this just transition
00:10:19.560 and it might even be
00:10:20.920 nationalizing the energy sector.
00:10:22.840 That's what I think
00:10:23.460 it probably will be.
00:10:24.960 Well,
00:10:25.260 yeah,
00:10:25.560 that's my fear as well.
00:10:26.860 I mean,
00:10:27.040 we're going to,
00:10:27.800 you know,
00:10:28.940 we're dealing with ideology
00:10:30.600 rather than reality,
00:10:31.780 unfortunately,
00:10:32.300 and they seem
00:10:33.040 when their ideology
00:10:34.180 can't come to pass,
00:10:35.300 then they go into
00:10:36.360 trying to force it to happen.
00:10:37.820 Just like they've been telling us
00:10:38.900 for decades
00:10:39.440 that everybody's going
00:10:40.160 to get into electric vehicles.
00:10:41.320 Everybody's going to move
00:10:41.840 on to electric vehicles.
00:10:42.820 Well,
00:10:43.120 here we are
00:10:43.640 after decades
00:10:44.260 and billions of dollars
00:10:45.200 of subsidies
00:10:45.840 and pushing and flogging
00:10:47.120 and still only 5%
00:10:48.540 of the population
00:10:49.260 at best
00:10:49.720 is getting these
00:10:50.640 electric vehicles.
00:10:51.680 So what are they saying now?
00:10:52.380 Well,
00:10:52.540 we're going to illegalize
00:10:53.520 the combustion engine
00:10:54.420 by 2035
00:10:55.520 so you'd better
00:10:56.560 get into those things.
00:10:57.960 They don't care
00:10:58.760 that we won't have
00:10:59.380 the infrastructure.
00:11:00.060 They don't care
00:11:00.520 that it'll decimate
00:11:01.240 the economy.
00:11:02.580 They just think
00:11:03.260 they've got to force
00:11:04.540 this to happen somehow.
00:11:05.880 Putting a cart
00:11:06.480 before the horse
00:11:07.440 and it's going to cause
00:11:08.220 catastrophic damage
00:11:09.480 to our economy.
00:11:10.720 Yes,
00:11:11.000 it will.
00:11:11.500 And the big problems
00:11:12.720 there,
00:11:13.340 again,
00:11:13.820 with this concept
00:11:14.700 of transitioning
00:11:15.540 is that there's not
00:11:17.100 enough power generation
00:11:18.360 in Canada.
00:11:19.220 We'd need
00:11:19.740 10,000 more megawatts
00:11:21.600 and it takes
00:11:22.580 eight to,
00:11:24.360 no,
00:11:24.660 it takes,
00:11:25.600 so that would be
00:11:26.480 eight sightsee dam equivalents
00:11:28.460 and it takes
00:11:29.480 about 20 to 30 years
00:11:31.100 to build one
00:11:32.120 of those dams
00:11:33.580 and there aren't
00:11:34.480 very many dam locations
00:11:36.340 left in Canada
00:11:37.320 that would be suitable,
00:11:38.620 not to mention
00:11:39.400 all the environmentalists
00:11:40.640 would block it.
00:11:41.320 But the other thing
00:11:42.240 is there's no material
00:11:43.920 supply chain
00:11:44.860 for this.
00:11:45.680 There's a great
00:11:46.460 report
00:11:48.260 by Simon Michaud.
00:11:50.100 He did the work
00:11:50.980 for the
00:11:51.680 Finnish
00:11:52.500 Geological Society,
00:11:54.460 do you think?
00:11:55.520 And there's
00:11:56.920 a good video
00:11:58.160 online
00:11:58.960 with him
00:12:00.200 explaining,
00:12:01.580 but Robert Lyman
00:12:02.840 also did a short
00:12:04.060 summary for us
00:12:05.100 on our website
00:12:05.860 called
00:12:06.240 The Pursuit of the Impossible.
00:12:08.320 And really,
00:12:09.080 it would take
00:12:09.820 decades,
00:12:10.980 sometimes
00:12:11.520 hundreds
00:12:12.440 or thousands
00:12:13.760 of years
00:12:14.840 to mine
00:12:16.240 sufficient minerals,
00:12:18.300 critical minerals,
00:12:19.480 for all these
00:12:20.520 fancy utopian
00:12:21.840 green plants.
00:12:23.560 We're talking
00:12:24.160 hundreds
00:12:24.600 of years,
00:12:26.260 billions,
00:12:27.060 quadrillions
00:12:27.820 of dollars.
00:12:28.800 It's not
00:12:29.760 going to happen.
00:12:30.940 So,
00:12:31.400 you know,
00:12:31.940 we're really
00:12:32.440 being led astray.
00:12:33.940 I don't know
00:12:34.320 if it's
00:12:34.860 malfeasance,
00:12:36.300 misfeasance,
00:12:37.500 or just
00:12:38.240 plain stupidity,
00:12:40.200 but we're
00:12:41.260 going down
00:12:41.820 a path
00:12:42.340 of deep,
00:12:42.900 deep destruction.
00:12:44.800 Well,
00:12:44.880 I wonder,
00:12:45.580 do you think
00:12:46.460 maybe at any point
00:12:47.320 some of the
00:12:48.040 larger developing
00:12:49.000 nations,
00:12:49.500 the ones that
00:12:49.860 really do have
00:12:50.320 that increased
00:12:50.720 demand,
00:12:51.280 are going to
00:12:51.820 start speaking up?
00:12:52.660 Like the
00:12:53.260 vain selfishness
00:12:55.100 of doing
00:12:55.420 this transition
00:12:56.200 when we have
00:12:57.260 developing nations
00:12:58.160 that desperately
00:12:58.860 need affordable,
00:13:00.240 reliable energy,
00:13:00.920 and they're using
00:13:01.460 some very
00:13:02.040 non-environmentally
00:13:03.560 friendly forms
00:13:04.380 of generating
00:13:05.100 energy because
00:13:05.720 they have to.
00:13:07.260 And if we would
00:13:07.880 export our clean
00:13:08.980 energy to them,
00:13:10.020 it would actually
00:13:10.500 be better for the
00:13:11.160 environment overall,
00:13:11.860 and of course,
00:13:12.300 better for their
00:13:12.860 prosperity.
00:13:13.640 They must see
00:13:14.440 that when we have
00:13:15.480 a prime minister
00:13:15.980 who says there's
00:13:16.400 no business case
00:13:17.120 for exporting
00:13:17.580 natural gas,
00:13:18.480 bizarrely,
00:13:19.020 you know,
00:13:19.960 and that's just
00:13:20.340 to Germany,
00:13:20.860 but I mean,
00:13:21.200 I'm certain India,
00:13:22.340 China,
00:13:22.820 a lot of those
00:13:23.720 nations down there
00:13:24.480 that are really
00:13:25.040 growing in leaps
00:13:25.660 and bounds
00:13:26.100 would happily
00:13:26.820 take on some
00:13:27.500 of these clean
00:13:28.460 energies we
00:13:28.940 could provide.
00:13:29.940 Maybe they'll
00:13:30.600 put some pressure
00:13:31.060 on?
00:13:32.820 I don't know
00:13:33.660 because,
00:13:34.280 you know,
00:13:35.800 price I think
00:13:36.460 is really the
00:13:37.040 objective for
00:13:37.780 these countries.
00:13:38.380 Like people say,
00:13:39.220 oh, you know,
00:13:39.660 let's ship our
00:13:40.400 natural gas to
00:13:41.380 China and India
00:13:42.260 and then we'll
00:13:42.780 solve the air
00:13:43.640 pollution problems
00:13:44.520 there.
00:13:45.320 Well,
00:13:45.580 natural gas is
00:13:46.680 a very complicated
00:13:47.740 system.
00:13:49.720 LNG is very
00:13:50.820 complicated
00:13:51.440 compared to
00:13:53.040 coal.
00:13:54.220 You know,
00:13:54.480 coal,
00:13:54.800 you just dig it
00:13:55.380 from the ground,
00:13:56.180 you can dump it
00:13:56.920 on the ground.
00:13:58.060 You know,
00:13:58.420 you don't need
00:13:59.180 a high pressurized
00:14:00.020 system for it.
00:14:01.160 I mean,
00:14:01.400 obviously there are
00:14:02.160 now very good
00:14:03.000 coal plants,
00:14:03.780 heli plants where
00:14:04.700 they're high efficiency,
00:14:06.040 low emissions
00:14:06.620 and all coal plants
00:14:08.900 pretty much use
00:14:09.660 pulverized coal now
00:14:10.820 so it burns
00:14:11.780 very clean.
00:14:13.580 But in those
00:14:14.500 poorer countries,
00:14:15.480 coal is always
00:14:16.180 going to be
00:14:16.540 the first option
00:14:17.320 because it's
00:14:17.760 very affordable,
00:14:18.800 it's abundant,
00:14:19.600 you don't need,
00:14:20.380 you know,
00:14:20.700 very high skilled,
00:14:22.940 highly skilled
00:14:23.820 people to manage
00:14:24.720 most of it.
00:14:26.960 So price point
00:14:28.880 will be a factor.
00:14:30.300 But obviously
00:14:31.100 there are other
00:14:32.320 mid-range countries
00:14:33.680 that would certainly
00:14:34.500 buy from us
00:14:35.340 if we could just
00:14:36.240 get it to market.
00:14:37.160 So again,
00:14:37.940 think of the
00:14:38.600 green trade war
00:14:39.440 people.
00:14:40.120 Think of who
00:14:40.940 out there
00:14:41.800 does not want
00:14:43.040 our product
00:14:43.740 on the market
00:14:44.960 and think of
00:14:46.380 why.
00:14:46.740 And it can also
00:14:47.560 be an east-west
00:14:48.520 division in Canada,
00:14:49.820 I'm sorry to say,
00:14:51.060 but there are
00:14:51.640 interests down east
00:14:52.700 who are invested
00:14:54.100 in other
00:14:55.540 energy sectors
00:14:56.720 overseas.
00:14:57.540 Why would they
00:14:58.180 want the west
00:14:59.280 to compete
00:15:00.120 with them?
00:15:00.500 Absolutely.
00:15:02.360 And then of course
00:15:02.860 OPEC nations,
00:15:03.740 they do like
00:15:04.560 having a strong
00:15:05.340 control over
00:15:05.980 energy prices
00:15:06.740 and the way
00:15:07.160 they do that
00:15:07.720 is by strangling
00:15:09.100 supply and they
00:15:10.000 strangle their
00:15:10.540 own output.
00:15:11.940 But if they can,
00:15:12.940 of course,
00:15:13.440 even better for
00:15:14.180 them,
00:15:14.480 if they can slow
00:15:15.280 the output in
00:15:16.080 other nations,
00:15:17.180 it's all the more
00:15:18.440 profit for them
00:15:19.300 as they keep the
00:15:19.980 oil prices and gas
00:15:21.040 prices artificially
00:15:21.900 high.
00:15:22.400 And you have to
00:15:23.060 look at their
00:15:23.440 interest in that
00:15:24.120 and that gets back
00:15:25.200 to a part of where
00:15:26.260 a lot of these
00:15:26.820 ENGOs get funded.
00:15:28.440 But I don't know
00:15:29.440 if there's ever
00:15:30.460 any interest in
00:15:31.120 pursuing or exposing
00:15:32.140 that.
00:15:32.520 I mean,
00:15:32.640 Alberta talked
00:15:33.200 about it and we
00:15:33.880 did our big report
00:15:34.580 and it just kind
00:15:35.000 of fell by the
00:15:35.400 wayside.
00:15:36.600 Yeah,
00:15:36.860 well,
00:15:37.040 there needs to
00:15:37.520 be more done
00:15:38.500 with the findings
00:15:39.300 of the Alberta
00:15:40.020 inquiry because
00:15:41.680 it's very obvious
00:15:43.060 in Europe and
00:15:43.940 we have a blog
00:15:46.160 post about this
00:15:47.040 from Drew
00:15:48.380 Godafridi who's
00:15:49.480 a Belgian
00:15:50.520 philosopher and
00:15:51.780 jurist and he
00:15:53.500 writes about how
00:15:54.240 Russia funded the
00:15:55.260 environmental groups
00:15:56.240 in Europe to
00:15:57.580 push Germany
00:15:58.720 especially to
00:16:00.260 buy gas from
00:16:02.120 Russia.
00:16:03.180 And so Germany
00:16:04.160 has been funding
00:16:05.000 the war against
00:16:06.920 Ukraine.
00:16:08.260 Yeah.
00:16:08.760 Put it very
00:16:09.980 bluntly, that's
00:16:10.760 what's been
00:16:11.100 happening.
00:16:12.540 And because Russia
00:16:14.120 funded these
00:16:14.780 environmental groups
00:16:15.760 and there's quite a
00:16:16.980 bit of evidence
00:16:17.720 that similar things
00:16:19.480 have happened here
00:16:20.360 in Canada.
00:16:21.960 So I don't have
00:16:24.000 the specific details
00:16:25.020 of that, but there
00:16:25.740 are some reports
00:16:26.440 out there.
00:16:27.240 So again, you
00:16:27.860 know, it's a green
00:16:29.200 trade war against
00:16:30.380 Alberta.
00:16:31.980 And the sooner we
00:16:33.780 take off the
00:16:34.520 blinkers, you know,
00:16:35.560 and stop talking
00:16:36.340 about climate
00:16:36.920 change, the Paris
00:16:38.420 Agreement is not a
00:16:39.700 legally binding
00:16:40.420 document.
00:16:41.380 Robert Lyman has
00:16:42.180 many articles on
00:16:43.140 this.
00:16:44.220 And, you know, we
00:16:45.980 shouldn't play ball
00:16:46.980 because we're
00:16:48.060 only 1.6% of the
00:16:52.020 world's emissions
00:16:52.820 in Canada, all of
00:16:54.160 Canada.
00:16:54.840 And even the
00:16:55.780 parliamentary
00:16:56.120 budget officer
00:16:57.200 recently issued a
00:16:59.460 report showing
00:17:00.780 that there would be
00:17:01.920 no change in
00:17:02.760 global climate
00:17:03.420 change, even if we
00:17:04.580 met our targets,
00:17:05.680 and even if we
00:17:07.360 did nothing, there
00:17:08.520 would be no
00:17:08.980 damage to our
00:17:10.440 economy.
00:17:11.600 That's always the
00:17:12.600 reason they say,
00:17:13.240 oh, well, down the
00:17:13.900 road, you know,
00:17:14.440 climate change is
00:17:15.080 going to
00:17:15.420 disastrously affect
00:17:16.620 the economy.
00:17:18.060 This is not true.
00:17:19.680 It would be better
00:17:20.620 if we were spending
00:17:21.300 all these billions
00:17:22.020 of dollars on
00:17:23.400 preparing and
00:17:24.140 adapting, you know,
00:17:25.080 upgrading the dike
00:17:26.020 system out in
00:17:26.920 Fraser Valley, you
00:17:29.320 know, preparing
00:17:29.880 Calgary for the
00:17:30.800 next potential flood
00:17:31.900 because there
00:17:32.300 probably will be
00:17:33.160 one.
00:17:35.060 These are all
00:17:35.860 things that we
00:17:36.380 can do with this
00:17:37.120 money that are
00:17:37.780 real, adaptative
00:17:38.940 things that will
00:17:40.060 help people and
00:17:40.840 give people real
00:17:41.720 jobs rather than
00:17:43.280 all this make-believe
00:17:44.920 unicorn utopia.
00:17:47.960 Yeah, well, in
00:17:48.960 the just transition,
00:17:49.820 whatever it might
00:17:50.340 turn out to be, I
00:17:51.520 mean, Trudeau has
00:17:52.220 stated that that's
00:17:52.880 going to be the
00:17:53.200 priority of 2023
00:17:54.140 starting off the
00:17:55.140 year, and he's
00:17:56.000 certainly taking
00:17:56.540 quite an aggressive
00:17:57.080 stance with Alberta
00:17:58.160 already, so I got a
00:17:59.380 feeling we're going
00:17:59.680 to be hearing a
00:18:00.200 heck of a lot more
00:18:00.880 about it as to
00:18:01.560 whatever it might
00:18:02.080 develop into.
00:18:03.300 So I appreciate
00:18:04.000 your speaking up
00:18:05.120 and helping to
00:18:05.600 define that and
00:18:06.420 keeping with it.
00:18:07.500 Before I let you
00:18:08.140 go, so where can
00:18:08.940 people find more
00:18:09.440 information about
00:18:10.200 Friends of Science
00:18:11.060 and the work you
00:18:11.620 guys do?
00:18:11.960 Well, we're on
00:18:13.980 YouTube.
00:18:14.720 We have a very
00:18:15.620 funny little video
00:18:16.820 about climate
00:18:17.560 injustice for all,
00:18:18.840 which is our
00:18:19.260 report that we did
00:18:20.620 about the just
00:18:21.140 transition, and it
00:18:22.520 features me sitting
00:18:23.520 in the middle of a
00:18:24.180 field in a chair, and
00:18:25.200 that's how the just
00:18:28.120 transition looks like.
00:18:29.280 It'll go, a chair in
00:18:30.760 the middle of a field
00:18:31.540 pretending to be a
00:18:32.360 house.
00:18:32.640 We're also at
00:18:35.340 friendsofscience.org,
00:18:37.460 our website.
00:18:38.560 We're on Twitter,
00:18:40.360 friendsofscience on
00:18:41.660 Twitter, and Facebook,
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00:18:45.340 So we hope that
00:18:46.340 people will engage
00:18:47.220 with us, and it is
00:18:48.480 our 20th year of
00:18:49.420 operation.
00:18:50.320 We have been asking
00:18:51.160 people if they would
00:18:51.960 just donate $20, or
00:18:54.680 if you like, maybe
00:18:55.480 take out a membership.
00:18:56.600 You can do that on
00:18:57.260 our website.
00:18:58.660 And we're going to
00:19:00.300 have a live event this
00:19:01.540 year.
00:19:01.760 So that's in the
00:19:03.520 works.
00:19:04.040 It's probably going to
00:19:04.660 be sometime in May.
00:19:05.920 So I hope people will
00:19:07.360 be able to attend for
00:19:08.580 our buffet dinner and
00:19:09.740 two speakers.
00:19:11.180 Great.
00:19:11.680 Well, we'll be
00:19:12.080 watching for that.
00:19:12.960 Thanks again for
00:19:13.860 coming on to join us
00:19:15.240 today, Michelle.
00:19:15.780 It's always good to
00:19:16.420 have a talk with you
00:19:17.040 and just get a nice
00:19:17.640 dose of some good
00:19:18.480 common sense.
00:19:19.300 And I really
00:19:19.620 appreciate the work
00:19:20.500 that you guys do
00:19:21.900 out there.
00:19:22.580 So keep at it, and
00:19:24.380 I'm certain we'll
00:19:25.180 talk again sometime
00:19:25.920 soon.
00:19:26.780 Okay.
00:19:27.080 Thanks, Corey.
00:19:27.700 Have a great
00:19:28.120 trip.
00:19:28.700 Great.
00:19:28.880 Thank you.
00:19:29.780 The current
00:19:30.460 Lethbridge Feed Green
00:19:31.220 prices are as
00:19:31.860 follows.
00:19:32.820 Cash Barley's at
00:19:33.500 $4.37, feed Wheat's
00:19:35.280 at $4.42, and Corn's
00:19:37.200 Holy at $4.40 per
00:19:38.380 metric ton.
00:19:39.320 In the Milling Wheat
00:19:40.200 markets, March
00:19:41.220 Minneapolis futures
00:19:41.980 gained $10.25 at $9.09,
00:19:45.020 with local hard red
00:19:45.940 spring bids for
00:19:46.620 February movement at
00:19:47.760 $11.55 per bushel.
00:19:49.660 In the oil seeds,
00:19:51.020 nearby canola futures
00:19:51.980 increased $8 at $9.39.80
00:19:54.700 per ton, with delivered
00:19:56.160 values for February
00:19:56.940 movement at $18.82 per
00:19:58.780 bushel.
00:19:59.060 In the pulse markets,
00:20:01.340 nearby red lentils remain
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00:20:04.260 yellow peas are trading at
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