MORGAN： We must be able to recall politicians. Gondek proved it
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In this episode of the Corey Morgan Show, host Corey Morgan chats with Dr. Regina Wattil about her new book, "Fistman's Fraud" and her thoughts on the recent recall of Calgary Mayor Jody Gondek.
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But hey, we got a lot to cover and a lot to rant and rave and talk and go on about.
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Anyways, if you're watching there, use that comment scroll.
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And James and Jordan, yes, send questions my way, comments.
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I don't necessarily read them all out, but I do read them all.
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And yes, and in my guests, we got a lot to cover in the 15 minutes that I'll have her.
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And she's covered, well, we've got a lot of hindsight finally starting to catch up on the whole COVID thing.
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And a lot of people backtracking and we can't let them scurry away and get away with a lot of the stuff they fed us over that period.
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I figured this book came out last fall, but it's very timely to discuss it again and bring it up there.
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Because we've got a lot of things to cover as well.
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Of course, there'll be the news check-in and some thoughts of my own on other things.
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So some news that was big for those in Calgary.
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We've had weeks, a record breaker, public hearings.
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Nearly 1,000 people came out to Calgary City Hall in person to express their feelings on the blanket rezoning plan.
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Calgary's mayor and city council voted yesterday, 9 to 6, to impose the blanket rezoning on the city.
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Even though 70% of those who presented in person opposed the rezoning, 90% of the thousands of submissions that were put in from citizens opposed the rezoning.
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And the council, they never campaigned on rezoning.
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And the snide attitudes of some of those council members made it pretty clear.
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Karah, if you're a Calgary, you know who I'm talking about.
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But they got a few other clowns on there worthy of your derision as well.
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In a sense, what Mayor Gondek and her supporters on city council said to Calgarians as well, what are you going to do about it?
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I mean, clearly, the mayor and council don't care what people think between elections.
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And they have no fear, you know, of being able to pursue their own personal agendas, even if they don't match the wishes of the citizens who put them there in the first place.
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That's why I support having citizens initiated recall and referendum legislation.
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Citizens should have their means to at least hold elected officials accountable between elections.
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I mean, there's a case to be made against having such election legislation.
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You know, they say we can remove elected officials every few years in a general election and we should just live with our choice for the duration of their term come hell or hide water.
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What isn't debatable, though, is that Alberta's current legislation for recall and citizens initiated referendum is utterly worthless.
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It was purposely crafted by the Kenney government to be unworkable.
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Kenney needed to fulfill a campaign promise, but he didn't really want to arm citizens with the power to remove elected officials.
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So when they passed the Recall Act of 2022, his government ensured the bars set to invoke a recall were set impossibly high.
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So there was a recent effort to recall Calgary Mayor Jody Gondek, and it demonstrated how useless the legislation is.
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I mean, polls have indicated Gondek is the least popular mayor in Calgary's history.
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Despite that, though, a recall effort initiated by Calgary and Landon Johnston barely managed to get over 10% of the required citizens, you know, to start the recall process going.
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And there was hundreds of volunteers working around the city to do it.
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On top of that, even if Johnston's petition had somehow reached the ridiculously high 514,000 signatures required, which is more than people voted in the entire election, by the way,
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a technicality found by city of Calgary bureaucrats rendered the signatures of the petition to be apparently 100% invalid.
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The language of the act is confusing and offers all sorts of hurdles on top of simply getting the signature.
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So apparently there wasn't a little notice that was attached to the sheets of the petition.
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So those 69,000 signatures were 100% invalid, according to city bureaucrats.
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So, you know, even if he'd lowered it, I don't think they'd gotten enough to effectively recall somebody.
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It should be a last resort, but we've got to have that resort in our tool belt to hold these politicians accountable.
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Many other democratic jurisdictions have effective recall legislation.
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We don't need to reinvent the wheel to find a bar that's acceptable.
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Alberta's referendum legislation is just as useless as the recall rules, by the way.
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The bar's been set ridiculously high. Nobody's going to manage to invoke one, and it's not binding on the government,
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even if a referendum was, you know, brought about by a citizen.
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So this mess now lands on Premier Daniel Smith's lap to either fix it or ignore it.
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Now, Smith appears to be on a mission to make municipal councils accountable, and that's great.
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The problem is, though, Premier Smith wants them to be accountable to her government rather than directly to citizens.
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I mean, do we really need to make it easier for the provincial government to fire municipal officials or shoot down municipal bylaws?
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I mean, they can already do those things if they have to. It's just not easy.
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Would it make more sense just to empower citizens to fire these guys and initiate plebiscites to deal with bad bylaws?
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I mean, you know, again, with a reasonable bar set.
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But no government wants to empower citizens to fire elected officials because they don't want to see that power potentially turned against themselves.
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So they'll pay lip service to policies like recall and referendum,
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but they have no interest in actually giving citizens the real ability to do that.
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Daniel Smith has been different than most of the political leaders we've seen in the last couple decades.
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She's not afraid to swim upstream or rock the boat.
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And if any premier might show the courage to fix Alberta's rotten recall and referendum legislation, it would be her.
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I mean, the UCP government already has a lot of irons in the fire.
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So citizens need to quit wasting time trying to pressure Calgary's mayor and city council.
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Gondek and her gang clearly don't care what you think.
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Energy needs to be directed at having the provincial government amend Alberta's terrible recall and referendum legislation.
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If a thousand people can come out to City Hall in Calgary to talk about something,
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if 70,000 can sign a petition to recall a mayor, surely a few thousand of you can contact your MLAs and say,
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I mean, citizens need to show they're serious and want to have that.
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You know, they've got to get out and fire these guys when the real election comes along.
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But along the way, we can fix this legislation.
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Alberta's going to be holding municipal elections next year.
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And we're notoriously apathetic at voting time.
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Why should election officials care what citizens think between elections if citizens don't even bother themselves to vote at election time?
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We do have the democratic tools at our disposal, guys.
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We can affect the change, but we haven't been using them effectively.
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If Calgary and Edmonton City Councils both got wiped out in next year's election,
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you can rest assured the provincial government's going to suddenly feel inspired to keep the rest of us happy.
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It always was, and it always will be, and it is right now.
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So get out there, use those tools, and encourage them.
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Okay, that's what got me ranting and raving today.
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Oh, and see what else is going on to get me all wound up and talk to our news editor, Dave Naylor, for an update.
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You know, I've never seen nine politicians commit career suicide before.
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But Calgarians are pretty apathetic, aren't they?
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And this is one of the things that we're talking about.
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You know, when you're sitting in that room waiting for the doctor to come along, I understand
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But do they have to have the KY sitting next to the gown so you can sit there and stare
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at it for half an hour just to build that anticipation on what you have to enjoy as a 50-some-year-old
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When you're talking about Vaseline and all sorts of stuff like that, it tends to attract
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I mean, I can't talk all politics all the time, can I?
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But hey, what a busy morning we've had today at the Western Standard World Headquarters
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We're leading off right now with a Mike Thomas column on last night's shenanigans at City
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And obviously, you can tell by the headline what he thinks about that.
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We've also got a Wenzel column from one of the Calgary Home Builders, Shane Wenzel, on
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We've got some good video of some crazy motorcyclists going down Coach Hal Trail doing wheelies
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and basically just sort of generally making asses of themselves on the weekend.
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A political assassination attempt in Europe today, Corey, when the Prime Minister of Slovakia
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was gunned down while visiting well-wishers in the street.
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And the Prime Minister, multiple gunshot wounds in hospital in critical condition.
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Good news, Corey, for when you're traveling to BC in the summer.
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And if you want to take a ferry, they're going to have all-gender washrooms now.
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They're going to get rid of male and female washrooms and all-gendered.
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And men will be able to get menstrual products while they're on board those ships.
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And Jonathan Bradley is just wrapping up a press conference with the Premier on the state of the
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the wildfire situation in Fort Mac, a very tense situation up there.
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And, Corey, I'm just reading through a report from ACERT, the police watchdog in Alberta.
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They were investigating a police shooting in Edmonton, which an officer shot and killed somebody.
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ACERT says they thought there might have been enough there to charge the officer with homicide.
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But the Crown Prosecutor's Office said they declined to prosecute.
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Well, it's interesting to know what the BC ferry is.
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But, you know, my nether regions are a little tender.
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I mean, free man ponds might have been handy the other day.
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Well, you know, it's there for you if you need it.
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Comforting to know the tax dollars are hard at work on the important things.
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Well, I mean, there's a lot going on, all the fires and everything else, too.
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So we'll check in with you after the show, then.
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You know, before I get to my next guest, I just want to talk briefly on something that
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It's just kind of a sidetrack on things, but a story that came out from the Canadian
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This is going to get down to people wanting simple solutions to complex problems.
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There's two areas I think that are big ones when it comes to that.
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One's rent control, which never works, no matter how much you try.
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People think if we could just control the rent, we'll keep everybody's rent low.
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What it does is leads to reduced supply, which leads in the end to higher rent or at least
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Hey, it's great if your rent is controlled and low in your area, but if you can't get
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into a house, you're kind of screwed, aren't you?
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And people keep thinking if we can just raise minimum wages high enough, we'll get rid of
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If it was that simple, why haven't they raised the minimum wage in Guatemala and made them
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California, I think they raised it to $20 an hour, which those are real dollars.
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Those are the American dollars, not the Canadian peso.
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And they still have people fleeing California because the high cost of living.
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And the other thing is the myth with people saying the amount of people dependent on minimum
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You see in Alberta right now, we're booming and inflation's going high.
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So the researchers found in Canada, the amount of minimum wage workers, as we always talk
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Well, it turns out 1.5% of minimum wage earners are single parents.
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37% of the people earning minimum wage are teenagers.
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And if they're any good, they're going to go up fast.
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If they're good workers, if they're learning skills, if they're reliable, rest assured,
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Alberta's minimum wage, I think it's $15 an hour right now, it's going to go up fast.
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Artificial measures, increasing minimum wages just doesn't help.
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If it was that simple, if it was that beautiful, everybody could be living comfortably and paying
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all their bills if we could just raise that arbitrary number high enough.
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And I'm going to segue that in to my next guest, Dr. Regina Watile, because I do believe
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she's a statistician and these stats are important.
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This is how we realize what is working and isn't what isn't working.
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And also, of course, when the wool's being pulled over your eyes.
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So thank you very much for coming to join the show today, doctor.
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So your book, I mean, I'll just let you start it off kind of, you know, on the premise
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It's called Fistman's Fraud, the Rise of Canadian Hate Science.
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Hate Science is an interesting term you've coined for it, but it works.
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Can you kind of explain what motivated you to write the book and just in a nutshell what
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Well, that's a tough one because there's been a lot of shenanigans during the pandemic and
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But basically, I came across, well, everybody came across an overtly fraudulent piece of
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research that targeted unvaccinated individuals and scapegoated them.
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And basically, I knew right then and there I had to do my best to take it down.
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So basically, my book dispels the pandemic of the unvaccinated narrative.
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It shows that it's purely political and that it was propped up by fraudulent science.
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And it focuses on a particular case of scientific fraud that was committed by University of Toronto
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The main author of the scientific research was David Fisman.
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He has basically been Canada's frontman for pandemic modeling.
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He is a tenured professor at the University of Toronto.
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And he has advised all levels of government from municipal to provincial to federal during
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And basically, what happened with their study was that when the pandemic, when it was shown
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that the pandemic of the unvaccinated narrative was false, that it completely broke down, this
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was after Omicron, the researchers at the University of Toronto basically concocted a model that simulated
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fake data to show that unvaccinated people had higher incident rates than vaccinated individuals and as
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And then they tried to pass off their fake data and their fake results as a true reflection of reality, even though
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official government of Ontario data showed basically the opposite.
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And then from there, there was a big media frenzy warning everybody of the risk of merely hanging out with the
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Well, yeah, that's part of what really got to me was this social division that they sowed with this agenda.
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I mean, not just the study, but the other people who followed up on it.
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I mean, the vaccinations were initially sold at least with the case being made that this is going to prevent
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transmission. And we found out pretty quickly once they were being applied, whatever, I mean, we can
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debate the benefits or whether they reduce symptoms or not or whatever, but they did not have any impact
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on the transmissibility of that, which should have with rational, moral people said, well, we can't keep
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yelling at people that they're putting everybody else at risk or in danger. And we shouldn't be trying to
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segregate people or pressure people saying you're going to kill my grandmama if you don't get vaccinated,
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because the vaccines did nothing to stop the transmission right there. The narrative should have
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Yeah, they doubled down on it because it's a real problem for the government if it doesn't
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curtail transmission. Mandates don't make sense. The mandates don't make sense. The passports don't
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make sense. The travel restriction, nothing they did makes sense when it comes to the restrictions
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they put in place. So they're doing everything they can to double down. Even now they're doubled down
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on that narrative. They've never admitted they were wrong and they're still saying the same thing.
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It's difficult to get those discussions out. Like when we were doing our productions at that time,
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if I mentioned the word vaccine on YouTube, we'd be punted off the channel. We could, if we wanted to
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maintain our ability to keep broadcasting, it was a no-go area for us. We had to talk around in circles
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to avoid the algorithms. It was just brutal. Like why, why were they so afraid of discourse on what
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should be such an important issue? Well, with, when it comes to transmission, um, they basically set
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things up, I believe, to bring in mandates in the future. And so they're, they don't want to back down
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on their, on their narrative. And what happened with the Fisman study is Fisman and his colleagues, they,
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they basically committed, uh, uh, an overt textbook case of scientific fraud to prop up these mandates
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and restrictions. And the issue is that when I tried to get the paper retracted, instead of, um, admitting
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there was a problem, the, the journal, the Canadian Medical Association Journal would not retract the
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article, even though dozens of scientists rebuked the findings. Uh, the University of Toronto backed it,
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uh, the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, they, they're standing by it. So now you have that top
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institutions are basically complicit in this fraud, which makes it really bad for them because it is,
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it is provable. Um, and when you show that institutions are willing to commit fraud to
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scapegoat a segment of the population, then that segment requires protections. And basically that's
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what I'm trying to do with this book is, is force protections for, um, you know, basic based on vaccine
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choice and medical choice. Well, yeah. And medical choice is essential. And I mean, what we're seeing
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now, and it's been frustrating to me is because of the deception, because of the, the forcefulness
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of it. I mean, so much trust has been broken with people. We're seeing tried and true vaccines.
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People are refusing to take them. Now we're, we're seeing whooping cough reappearing. We're seeing
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measles reappearing because these guys shoved these unproven vaccines down the throats of Canadians.
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What I worry about, as you said, we should be looking though down the road in case there's
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another pandemic of another sort, people won't take up. It may be a real vaccine would come up,
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maybe something dangerous that is transmissible and there is a vaccine that stops it, but people
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aren't going to take it because they aren't going to believe the government that refused to at least
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acknowledge what they learned this time around. Oh, for sure. They've, they've done what they've done,
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uh, for vaccination is, is horrific. They, they are responsible for people not wanting to get
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regular vaccines, but not just vaccination, the, the reputation of science itself, statistics,
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you know, epidemiology, the reputation of a lot of things that have gone down because of this pandemic.
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And, um, yeah, legal to the justice system. People don't have faith in the justice system.
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It's in a very, in a terrible state. Um, when, when you have trusted organizations outright, uh,
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fabricating and lying to citizens. Well, and, and we got fortunate as, as far as any kind of pandemic
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will go. And, and, you know, again, speaking of statistics, people can look at that. I mean,
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one of the ways they'd love to shut it down. If you're not a medical doctor, you shouldn't be able to
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speak on this. Oh, kiss my butt. We've got to be able to speak on that. We got to look at these numbers.
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And, uh, the, one of the things that was pretty clear very early was healthy people under the age
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of 40, the chances of them actually being permanently harmed by COVID. Thankfully we're
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next to none. I mean, the numbers bore that out. They bore it out during the time and they,
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more so even now, yet you don't hear them talking about that. We, we pretended this was going to
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impact everybody and it didn't, which again makes a dangerous environment for, uh, perhaps an outbreak
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that comes down the road that is much more dangerous because people aren't going to believe
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them. Well, you're exactly right. The right away in March of 2020, it was shown at that time that
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most individuals were not at serious risk of, uh, COVID-19 complications at that time. Um, and right
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away the government acted in a direction that, um, was opposite of what the data was saying.
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So when I looked at it at that, at that time, I was really worried because there was really
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no reason even in the beginning to do the lockdowns, the school closures and, and whatnot, but that's
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what they did right away. And they didn't, uh, correct. They didn't self-correct when it was
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obvious they were wrong. They just kept on going. Yeah. And now that as well, as time is passing,
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I mean, a big turning point and that's where I thought, oh boy, I want to get her on your talk
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more about this. Cause finally people are looking back and realizing like, was the AstraZeneca now kind
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of admitting that we haven't seen numbers. We haven't seen what's gone on, but I mean,
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this must be pretty serious with it. They're seeing what they're seeing is a rare side effect
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that could seriously harm people with their vaccine bad enough that at least that they felt it's time
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to pull that right off the market. Uh, when we were told for so long that these vaccines were virtually
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harmless when we're seeing them pulling it off the market, I think some alarm bells should be going off
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here. The alarm bells should be going off, but at least here in Canada, they haven't really admitted
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to anything. They're saying it's for other reasons. And, um, like, even though it looks
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like some progress is being made, the people that are in charge of anything, everything,
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they haven't changed course at all. They haven't even changed course when it comes to the transmission.
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They're still trying to say that there's some, some benefit when, when there just simply isn't.
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When you look at even Fisman study, he just did an update last month and they're still clinging
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to the same narrative and they're clinging to the, you know, that the unvaccinated pose a threat
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when it's clear they didn't. And then when it comes to safety, they're even less likely to admit
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they were wrong because that, that would be extremely problematic to them. So even though,
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you know, the information is getting out there, there isn't, has been no course correction,
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really. Um, I mean, this is a good sign with AstraZeneca, but, um, it's not near enough.
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Oh, and, and, and something else. I mean, I've been watching the numbers for the people. I mean,
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they're still advertising. They're still pushing, you know, get your boosters, boosters, boosters. I
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don't know. Some people get up to their sixth or seventh booster or wherever the heck they are.
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Uh, but most people have stopped. I mean, the numbers of people who have bothered following
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up with boosters any longer is virtually nil, at least non-vulnerable people, the younger people.
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So if, I mean, they always said that we'd have to keep doing this for years, we'd have to keep these
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boosters or this never was going to go away. Well, it's gone away despite nobody taking the
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boosters or next to nobody. So, I mean, the, the bottom line is this thing just had to run its course.
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Well, it did, but the, the issue is obviously they keep talking about the next pandemic and the
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next emergency. So unless we, we change, uh, what, what they've set up, um, we may find ourselves in
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this position again with these re ridiculous restrictions. And, um, basically that the
00:28:00.680
government has shown that they can just toss our rights and freedoms aside. So unless we make,
00:28:06.280
put protections in, I think we will see it again. Um, and, and there's a lot, like I am like today,
00:28:13.240
I was feeling pretty positive that we're making some progress, um, because there are, there are more
00:28:18.360
discussions going on and there's a lot of things going on in the background that I know with a lot of
00:28:22.280
people. So we're, we're working hard to put protections in place. So I'm really hoping we'll
00:28:26.600
get somewhere. Well, that's good. I mean, I, another thing that happened throughout the course
00:28:32.360
of this too, and the numbers just didn't bear it up. And that's why I don't think, you know,
00:28:35.640
statisticians and people should be dismissed. It's very important. We were always warned about
00:28:39.560
super spreader situations every time with where there was the Sylvan Lake beach in Alberta, or even
00:28:44.360
the rodeo that the Western standards sponsored during the pandemic. And we were all accused,
00:28:48.440
you're going to kill everybody. It's going to be a super spreader event. Thousands of people
00:28:52.200
are going to be traced with infections to these events. It never happened from, from hockey games,
00:28:56.920
to rodeos, to people going to the beach. That just didn't happen.
00:29:01.240
Right. But the thing is that you are, you're correct. More statisticians need to step up because
00:29:06.760
pandemic science really has been about the manipulation of statistics to get people to comply
00:29:12.120
and do what they're told. Like from day one, it's all been about, it's a statistical game really.
00:29:17.400
And the numbers, the real numbers and the real science was never on the side of these restrictions
00:29:25.240
and the way the government has acted. So, the issue of course, is that the justice system doesn't
00:29:33.640
seem to be open to actual evidence. And a lot of times they go on expert opinion, as opposed to
00:29:40.280
provable facts. I'm hoping one day we can actually show the evidence because you can show the fraud.
00:29:48.040
You can prove the fraud based on these, based on basic principles of science. I can do it with FISMIN.
00:29:57.480
I can show other, other examples of fraud. Right now, I'm looking at some of the things done here by
00:30:03.160
the Ontario science table, showing how they fudged numbers to basically put the screws to
00:30:08.840
the working unvaxxed. These things actually are not that difficult to prove. We're just being blocked
00:30:16.760
from proving it. Yeah. And it's very frustrating. I mean, just if nothing else out of this whole few
00:30:22.360
years, what I want to see is that we learned something. I fear two outcomes that have happened
00:30:28.280
from all this deception. I mean, one is that either a relatively minor pandemic of some sort,
00:30:34.680
like COVID is going to come along. And yes, the government's just going to feel empowered to come
00:30:37.800
in and step on our rights and, and infringe on us all over again, if we haven't learned for it from it,
00:30:42.600
or it could be the next zombie apocalypse. And it's something terribly dangerous,
00:30:47.000
but nobody's going to trust the restrictions or the distancing or anything because of what happened
00:30:51.400
the last time. And we'll have a worse infection than we would have endured. So we've really got
00:30:56.760
to look at this with an unvarnished eye and come at it better in the future.
00:31:00.840
Oh, oh, for sure. You're not going to get an argument from me without, without one. And,
00:31:06.440
and you're correct. It could go either way. I got to say that my trust in, in the establishment is,
00:31:14.200
is completely gone. I see, I see too much corruption and I see too much abuse. So all I'm going to do is
00:31:21.320
try to set the record straight and one day at a time, make progress.
00:31:26.520
So, well, you've certainly put your, your effort in to do so. And I appreciate that. And with your
00:31:31.000
book. So, I mean, before I let you go, where can people find you? I know you have a, a busy online
00:31:36.440
presence and of course you have your, your book available. Where can people get a copy?
00:31:39.400
Well, people can get a copy on Amazon Indigo. Vets for Freedom also carries it. If people don't
00:31:45.720
want to go through the major chains. I'm pretty active on Twitter, but, but that's about it because
00:31:52.200
it's really hard to keep up on all the different social media platforms. So I usually just make
00:31:56.600
tweets right now. I'm working on several things in the, in the background. So, I mean, I want people
00:32:01.960
to realize that, that, you know, there are, there is progress being made. I've been very unfortunate with
00:32:08.280
this book in that, you know, I've had been on podcasts and certainly being on Redacted really
00:32:14.200
helped with the exposure. And because of that, I've been able to get this book into the hands of
00:32:18.440
dozens of MPs and, and a Senator. I'm also doing other things, like I mentioned in the background with
00:32:25.720
some of the updates that have gone on with, with Fisman and, and, and others. And so, things are, are
00:32:32.840
moving along in the, in the right direction, even though I have to say that the government so far has
00:32:38.680
not changed course. And there does seem to be an effort to keep information that goes against the
00:32:47.160
narrative from actual MPs and others. Just one thing that came out is, it's my, my, my book is
00:32:53.560
mentioned in the House of Commons. And there was even an order paper question about the funding of the study.
00:32:59.000
And anybody who reads my book, and I also put out a supplementary that shows all the
00:33:07.880
email and letter correspondence with CIHR and CMAJ. So people know what I sent them. So there was an
00:33:14.920
order paper question that went to see, to CIHR asking whether they received any negative feedback
00:33:21.240
about this study. And they came back recently and said, no. And so right on the order paper question in
00:33:27.480
the House, that's an outright lie. And now comes to like, what's going on? Like, are they trying to
00:33:34.600
keep information from these politicians, so the politicians can claim they don't know? Like, it's,
00:33:40.920
it's very, I think we have to get to the, to the bottom of it, for sure. So we're working, I'm working on
00:33:47.640
that. And, and there's also the big, big question as to how this whole media frenzy came out when this
00:33:54.520
study was published, that it went to, you know, I think over 90 media outlets, and over 100 articles
00:34:01.480
were written right away. And who orchestrated that because very unusual for a scientific study to get
00:34:07.480
that level of exposure. And as you know, when the study came out, it was timely because, you know,
00:34:13.960
that the Liberal government was trying to find science to justify its extending its mandates and
00:34:20.440
travel restrictions. So there's a lot of questions that remain unanswered that we still need to find
00:34:27.240
Well, we appreciate your work and your book and your ongoing work. So thank you very much for
00:34:32.520
coming on to talk to us about it today. And I look forward to hopefully at least trying to mitigate
00:34:37.800
the harm in the next time this sort of thing happens. So thanks again, and then perhaps we'll talk
00:34:43.400
Oh, thank you very much, Corey. I appreciate this. Thank you.
00:34:47.480
Thanks. So again, one more time, folks, if you want to get that book, and it's a good one,
00:34:51.240
Fisman's Fraud by Dr. Regina Watteal. And yes, watch for her on Twitter and online. She's still
00:34:57.560
out. It's not like she just put out a book and quit. We've got to learn from this. We've got to,
00:35:03.240
you know, we can't make a positive, you can't change the past, but you can stop yourself from
00:35:07.080
repeating it. If you look carefully at what happened and don't do it again. I'm going to tell a
00:35:11.560
little story on here. I think I might have told it on here before, but I know we've got a lot of new
00:35:15.080
viewers in it. And it starts out kind of weird and crude, but bear with me. I'm getting somewhere
00:35:19.000
with it. Back in the early eighties, I was a young inquisitive kid, like any other one.
00:35:23.320
And I'd poke around kids getting into everything in my father's golf bag. I found a hustler magazine.
00:35:28.040
Yeah, real high end stuff. But the funny thing was, I was a little dork. I was a strange kid.
00:35:32.840
I didn't just look at the pictures, which of course were fascinating to me. I read they had articles in
00:35:37.240
there. And they had an article actually, that was called the gay cancer. This was an 82 or 83 or
00:35:43.240
something, a strange term, a crude one. But actually, that was a story about a disease
00:35:50.200
that was sweeping the gay community on the lower west coast in California. And it was killing
00:35:54.600
them all over the place. And people were getting worked up. They're wondering what the heck's going
00:35:57.560
on. But nobody in mainstream media was talking about it. Nobody would touch it. Yet hustler covered
00:36:03.240
it of all magazines. And doctors eventually changed the name of it, actually. And they called it
00:36:08.440
gay acquired immune deficiency, which got evolved quickly to AIDS. And that's what it was. But the
00:36:16.120
first reports of all places you're hearing about it, were in a porn magazine. And I'm not saying
00:36:21.160
that Larry Flint is a good man. He's a gross porn hustling pervert. But it's sad. There was something
00:36:28.280
socially sensitive. We won't talk about the science because there's where what happened.
00:36:33.000
Rock Hudson. That was the turning point. Rock Hudson is diagnosed with AIDS. He dies. And suddenly,
00:36:41.320
it becomes a mainstream thing. And everybody's talking about it. But what the media did, and the
00:36:46.200
world did, and everybody turned around and said, this is everybody's disease. We've got to. And when
00:36:49.720
I graduated high school by the end of the 80s, we were told every hetero person is going to know
00:36:53.240
another hetero person who's HIV positive. This is where it's going. And we're going to do our
00:36:57.160
preventative measures to make sure everybody, because again, people were fearful socially of
00:37:02.200
speaking up about where the disease was actually hitting. It's not a prejudice to point out the
00:37:06.200
reality was when that disease was emerging. And all the way through the course of it,
00:37:10.840
it was predominantly among gay men and intravenous drug users. It's not actually that easy a disease
00:37:18.840
to transmit, thankfully. But still, it was devastating to those communities. It was terrible.
00:37:23.960
And if we'd have properly dedicated though our resources and looked at where it's really hitting,
00:37:29.720
spend that money to work on educating the gay community, and reduce the amount of people who
00:37:35.320
died and got infected because we were sitting here wasting money chasing after heterosexual high
00:37:40.040
school kids when it was actually gay men we should be targeting to save their lives. We wasted the
00:37:45.480
resources of pretending it's everybody's disease. Doesn't it sound familiar though, when the early
00:37:51.080
rumblings like I was talking about before with Regina, about we knew it was senior citizens,
00:37:57.960
we knew it was vulnerable people, we knew it was diabetics, we knew it was obese people, that COVID
00:38:01.880
is hurting, and it's not harming the others. So why pretend that it's everybody's disease? Instead,
00:38:07.960
we should focus on who's most vulnerable, because when we do that, we can better reduce the onslaught
00:38:14.760
and the problems from it. So I mean, you know, it never changed. I mean, the AIDS still remain,
00:38:20.760
we've gotten it much under control compared to how it was, thank God. But we could have done a heck
00:38:25.880
of a lot better job if people would actually paid attention to it. And again, statistically,
00:38:31.400
looking at really who it's hitting and how and why. But we let political agendas and political
00:38:38.280
correctness guide our treatment of that terrible disease with COVID and AIDS. And it costs lives.
00:38:46.280
Let's look at it realistically. That's why I'm saying let's talk to statisticians. Let's look at
00:38:50.760
the numbers. That's what gives us the tail, especially when we have hindsight. So if emerging
00:38:57.240
diseases come out in the future, let's look at who it's hitting. And let's target who's most vulnerable.
00:39:03.560
Let's hope it's not everybody. But I'm sick of media, and experts, and others pretending every
00:39:09.960
disease is everybody's problem. It's not. We really should have done more to protect our seniors
00:39:15.400
during the point of COVID to protect people with other comorbidities. We had the numbers very early.
00:39:22.280
And even to the end, kids were virtually immune. They should have still been going to school.
00:39:25.800
We had something where the best things you could do is get out and into fresh air. What would they
00:39:31.320
do? They were closing playgrounds, the morons. They were assaulting kids playing hockey who were never
00:39:36.680
at risk. Literally, we saw it in Calgary with the cops tackling a kid for daring to play on an outdoor
00:39:41.320
rink for doing a healthy outdoor activity, healthy socially and physically. That's how stupid we
00:39:46.360
were through this. Stupid. So let's learn from it. Let's learn from it. And yeah, keep your alternate
00:39:53.960
media going. Because like I said, to give a little bit of credit to Hustler, aside from their pornographic
00:39:59.880
images, they were actually one of the first magazines with the courage to at least even report on this
00:40:04.120
issue. This should have been reported in mainstream magazines and newspapers years before that,
00:40:09.480
but nobody had the courage because they were too scared of social issues. Well,
00:40:13.480
alternative media was actually helping people in some ways, and it was helping lonely men as well.
00:40:18.040
But back in those days, and now alternative media is here. The Western Standard doesn't put
00:40:21.640
pornographic images up, but we will talk about issues that the mainstream media is afraid to.
00:40:26.600
So Dave mentioned ACERT earlier when he was given the news update and protests on protests and things
00:40:33.080
like that over the cops shooting. That's the Alberta serious incident reporting. It's when
00:40:39.400
there's a police incident that gets violent. And it looks like now we're hearing talk with the
00:40:43.800
protests that got torn down in Calgary and Edmonton. It's like Alberta is leading the country in
00:40:48.760
something. I'll be kind enough to call them pro-Palestine, but in reality, they're typically
00:40:54.440
now pro-Hamas. I mean, they're celebrating October 7th. It's disgusting. But either way,
00:40:58.680
these university protests were setting up and Alberta got up and said, no, that's not happening.
00:41:06.600
And within a week, I think it took two weeks in Edmonton. It took like three days in Calgary.
00:41:10.440
The police moved in and they removed the encampments. They said, no, it's not happening.
00:41:14.840
Not going to go on in here. The university's asked police to come in because it's private property.
00:41:20.680
But now we got the backlash. We got Premier Smith saying, yeah, we're going to have ACERT,
00:41:24.280
have a look because we heard there were some injuries. You know, there's this doctor online
00:41:27.560
who showed the most pathetic. If you look at my, my Twitter account online at Corey B. Morgan,
00:41:31.640
you'll see it. I shared them a few days ago. These little scratches on people, these,
00:41:35.400
the police beat them. Oh, good Lord. Really? Oh man. My mother did more of the wooden spoon.
00:41:41.480
If I did something wrong in the eighties, this is police abuse. These guys were told they were
00:41:45.880
setting up fences around their encampments. They were building pallets. Here's the pictures I took
00:41:49.720
right there from university of Calgary. And for the people who are just listening to the audio
00:41:53.320
version, there's a wall of pallets. These guys actually built around their little encampment.
00:41:58.440
This is like on day two, they took trucks right into the middle of the university campus and built
00:42:02.760
a camp and put a wooden wall around it. How do you think it's going to get easier to get rid of these
00:42:07.560
jerks? If you leave them, they were entrenching. They were digging in. They were getting ready for
00:42:13.080
battle. The police warned them over and over and over again. So get out of here. We're removing your
00:42:18.840
camp. You're trespassing. It's not allowed. Anybody who didn't want to be physically
00:42:23.160
removed, all they had to do was walk away. And most of them apparently did, but a bunch of them
00:42:28.280
didn't because they're extremists. They're lunatics. They're Jew hating jerks. So the police were forced
00:42:32.840
to go in and then they start throwing bottles and things at the police. And guess what? The police
00:42:36.520
were dressed in riot gear and they removed them. They tore them out of there. And there was some
00:42:41.880
video. Of course, they always ham it up. They play it up and scream and howl and fall on the ground and
00:42:46.280
force the officers to drag them away. Wah. Friggin wah. Wimps. You know, it's a show.
00:42:54.760
But the thing is, when the politicians, the cowardly politicians play to the show, you start
00:43:00.840
losing. So even Premier Smith, I understand she's got to be careful and say, yeah, we're going to
00:43:04.440
have Acer to have a look because maybe the police were too rough. And I listen to, I torture myself.
00:43:10.200
I listen to talk radio because I do a lot of driving through the week and it gives me something to
00:43:13.640
listen to. At least it keeps me up on the news. But talk radio has gotten pathetic these days,
00:43:17.400
pathetic. And I listened to one host who was talking to an officer about it and he kept going
00:43:20.920
on about, do they have to look so militarized? Do they have to look so militarized? He said that
00:43:25.400
like five friggin times. What do you want? Maitre d's? Should they come up? Pardon me,
00:43:30.200
sir. Could I please ask you to leave the camp? They're not going to. These police have to wear pads.
00:43:35.000
They have to wear face shields. They have to keep a shield up because these idiots are throwing rocks.
00:43:39.880
Yeah, they love throwing rocks, these Gazan types, don't they? And bottles and you name it at them.
00:43:44.120
They have to protect themselves. They have to stay safe. And yes, I've seen it. I've gone to protests
00:43:49.080
where the police march forward and they bang their shields when they're going. And the radio host I
00:43:54.040
was listening to, such an intimidation tactic. Yes, that's exactly what it is. You jerk, you moron.
00:44:00.680
Because it's better to get them afraid saying, you know what? I don't like this. I'm going to get up
00:44:04.360
and I'm just going to leave rather than force the police to grab me and drag me out of here.
00:44:09.480
So yes, the police do purposely intimidate. They do purposely look tough when they approach
00:44:15.880
these encampments. It's for the safety of the police and it's for the safety of actually the
00:44:21.640
people protesting. Because if you would just get out of the damn way, you've been warned.
00:44:26.840
If you don't, then it's probably going to get a little rough. And they weren't that rough.
00:44:30.280
They weren't. They got some pepper in their eyes and some flash bangs went. They disorient
00:44:36.280
people. They make a big noise. They scare them and they get them out of the way.
00:44:40.520
But to listen to the media talking about, like, what do you want? What do you really want? So
00:44:45.240
we're supposed to let these guys set up a permanent camp sitting around there in perpetuity. And I'll
00:44:50.680
be fair. I see Linda comment or say, rough police were at the truckers convoy. That's true.
00:44:55.160
Because they were also removing people who had been warned over and over and over again,
00:44:58.520
it was time to leave. We can debate whether or not the truckers convoy protest should have been
00:45:05.160
ordered to leave. I honestly, I've talked about this and I know people get upset with me. I support
00:45:10.680
the protest. I supported the initial part of it. But when you get these protests coming,
00:45:14.920
you can't just entrench and block entire roads and stay permanent. You can't. You can't. You will
00:45:20.600
force the hand of the authority. You have to have an exit plan at some point. You have to have
00:45:25.800
reasonable demands to be met or something. Because if you don't, eventually it will come
00:45:30.440
to a head and you'll be removed. No matter what. You can't block borders indefinitely. You can't
00:45:35.320
block Parliament Hill indefinitely. And you can't set up permanent camps on university campuses. You
00:45:40.520
will be removed. And when the police do it, they won't do it nicely. Thankfully, it just says a lot
00:45:47.880
though about the truckers convoy when the police did move in and there were some bad incidents with the
00:45:51.560
horses and other things. But for the most part, they were seeing people who realized and they were
00:45:57.000
ticked off. They didn't want to be removed and they had to be kind of pushed back. But they didn't
00:46:01.160
throw the bottles and attack the police and really cause heavy duty riots. Part of the reason too,
00:46:05.320
though, is because you have a large police force there in the first place. We can discuss whether
00:46:09.640
or not it should have been done or not. The Emergencies Act never should have been declared. That was an
00:46:13.560
overreach and over action from a cowardly prime minister and it was ridiculous. That didn't have to happen.
00:46:19.160
But once it comes to the point, whether right or wrong, and the police have been tasked and said,
00:46:23.240
look, your job now is to go in there and remove this encampment, remove these demonstrators,
00:46:29.240
wherever it might be. They have to protect themselves. They have to look a little intimidating.
00:46:33.640
They have to look a little militarized. And that's the way it's going to happen.
00:46:38.920
Just to finish, one thing that got a little bit better out of it all was a university,
00:46:44.520
this is a nice one. A University of Alberta diversity official, yes, diversity official,
00:46:49.480
tendered her resignation because of the treatment of students of the anti-Israel encampment.
00:46:53.640
So on Saturday, this U of A Faculty of Arts Associate Dean of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,
00:47:00.040
whatever. Natalie Loveless says she witnessed violent, forcible removal of her Hamas buddies,
00:47:05.000
so she has resigned. Good. Why the hell do they need this Associate Dean of Equity,
00:47:09.960
Diversity and Inclusion in the first place? Don't replace her. Your university just got better on two
00:47:13.960
levels. You got rid of these idiots who were setting up a camp in the middle of the university,
00:47:18.200
and you got rid of this idiot dean who had a position she didn't need to be there in the first
00:47:23.480
place. Look, people are free to get out and protest day by day by day. Get up in the morning,
00:47:28.840
go out, hold your signs, wave them. But when you start blocking roads, setting up camps in universities,
00:47:34.760
blocking borders, you're going to force their hand. So don't. Your rights aren't being infringed on by
00:47:40.280
having an encampment removed. Either way, we'll still see that. That story is not done by a long
00:47:45.720
shot. It's going to keep going on. Lots of other stories going on. Keep an eye on the Western
00:47:50.280
Standard. As I said, we've got the wildfires. We've got people covering it. It's that time of year,
00:47:53.960
guys. We're going to have them. And unfortunately, they're getting near populated places. People have
00:47:57.080
been evacuated. And just keep coming back. So thanks for tuning in today, guys. Share those links.
00:48:03.960
Keep coming to the standard. And tune into the pipeline tonight. We're going to cover a few
00:48:07.720
more stories in depth with a panel. So thanks for tuning in this week. And I'll see you all again