Western Standard - Mountain Standard Time - April 28, 2021

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00:02:00.000 good morning and welcome to mountain standard time i'm your host nathan guida and today we'll

00:02:11.360 be speaking with chris elson who of course is an activist fighting for the innocence of our

00:02:16.200 children here in british columbia and attempting to take out the soji curriculum in bc but first

00:02:21.780 i have an opening statement so i think that one of the things we need to be honest about is if we

00:02:27.900 were to try to figure out what's wrong with the world today the simplest explanation was once

00:02:32.460 given by gk chesterton what's wrong with the world today it's me if everybody followed their

00:02:37.220 conscience accordingly the world would improve immensely and every time we excuse our actions

00:02:42.680 we add to the denigration of our species as well as our civilization but if we're looking for a

00:02:48.460 conceptual framework a catch for what is causing so many of our ills it is hard to do better than

00:02:54.620 fatherlessness. Without a father figure, flawed as he might be, children grow up stunted, often

00:02:59.440 lacking proper self-regulation and respect for boundaries. As they become adolescents and adults,

00:03:04.200 unresolved issues result in a broken sense of self-identity, as well as unhealthy, unstable

00:03:08.940 relationships with their spouses, family, society, and authority. Rebuttals or pearl-clutching on this

00:03:13.900 point are a waste of breath. We all know this is a fact, and we all know it's an epidemic ever since

00:03:17.680 the nuclear family began breaking down throughout the post-war era. I have my own opinion on what

00:03:22.260 occurred there, but let's simply acknowledge that families are in a worse state today than they were

00:03:26.360 probably two generations ago. How I think about myself as a man was very much influenced by my

00:03:32.480 father, who, though not my biological parent, took his role with grace and love. It is not hard for

00:03:38.600 me to imagine how much worse off I would be without his influence, and that absence could have made me

00:03:44.220 quite susceptible to many things. Today, amongst children who are unhappy due to many factors, one

00:03:49.100 of the paths to happiness celebrated in all of our schools is irreversible change to one's gender 1.00

00:03:54.620 where this agenda has been resisted most strongly is amongst parents who take their role seriously

00:03:59.900 but especially fathers the ancient instinct of protection has been activated and men who have

00:04:04.880 children have begun taking an interest in what goes on in the classroom that they subsidize

00:04:09.900 with their tax dollars the fight has begun for the most foundational questions we have around

00:04:14.240 children innocent consents and what qualifies as medicine it is a battle of epic paradigms

00:04:20.880 we're going to learn more about that today thanks to chris elston let me simply end by saying that

00:04:26.000 the epidemic of fatherlessness uh is what got us into this mess and so it is right and just that

00:04:31.120 fatherhood would get us out and god help us recover what is a true masculine vocation 0.99

00:04:35.520 we will go to chris live welcome to the program chris thank you nathan thanks for having me

00:04:40.400 so let's start right from the very top how how did you get involved with uh fighting

00:04:46.640 the soji curriculum and and where did where did you get your impetus for your activism

00:04:50.760 well it's a bit of a long story but we have some time today yes we do

00:04:58.060 so i just became really aware of everything that was going on

00:05:02.100 and it seemed especially last year every month things were getting

00:05:08.040 nuttier and nuttier not just with what's going on with kids but with what's going on with women 1.00

00:05:15.340 and I have two girls they're nine and eleven years old now and so they're going to be women 0.65

00:05:20.660 one day and I'm not super happy about the state of things today but there was a woman in Scotland

00:05:30.900 named Posey Parker who put up a built a sign she put up a poster outside the train station 1.00

00:05:37.640 that said, I heart J.K. Rowland, the children's author,

00:05:41.360 because she's spoken out about these issues affecting kids and women.

00:05:45.180 And it got taken down right away.

00:05:48.180 Censorship, right?

00:05:50.220 So I just thought, well, you know, that bugged me a lot

00:05:57.740 because when we can't put up a simple sign that says,

00:06:01.480 I heart J.K. Rowland, who's just the greatest children's author

00:06:04.740 probably the world's ever known, who's a lovely woman,

00:06:07.640 and we can't even say that that's a pretty crazy society so i just kind of had enough of everything

00:06:16.700 that was going on and so i put up a billboard in east vancouver that said the same thing

00:06:20.900 and i guess somewhat predictably it got paint bombed overnight and then a vancouver city

00:06:27.120 councillor named sarah kirby young said it was hate speech and she made some noise to patterson

00:06:35.340 outdoor jimmy patterson's company design company and the very next day on a weekend they brought

00:06:40.620 in installers to cover the sign up and so it didn't even last 24 hours but uh that was okay

00:06:51.340 because there's something called the streisand effect and when people try to censor you

00:06:57.100 it often results in the message reaching many more people than it otherwise would have done

00:07:01.660 which is exactly what happened and so there was so much outrage online i went on twitter and i

00:07:07.100 said if you want to do this in your city i'll help i'll take the heat i know a lot of us have

00:07:11.340 to stay anonymous but i just need help with funding and so right away an executive a woman 0.58

00:07:17.500 in silicon valley reached out and we ended up i had to raise some more money she sent me

00:07:23.660 a decent amount of a decent chunk of change and i had to raise some more money from canadians

00:07:28.220 and i got that all done that night and then less than a week later we had a billboard up in san

00:07:32.860 francisco and then another uh pretty wealthy person a businessman reached out from the united

00:07:39.100 states and we ended up doing digital billboards all across the country ending in times square

00:07:46.380 did portland oregon los angeles all throughout utah i did a separate project where i did the

00:07:52.380 underground the subway system in washington dc and finished off that campaign with times square

00:07:59.980 but i didn't want to stop there because i mean that's just well they're just some billboards

00:08:05.020 and they make some news for a little while but then it goes away and the only way we change this

00:08:08.860 as citizens is to be consistent persistent and never stop until we win because the other side

00:08:19.900 is never going to stop and they have millions of dollars we have nothing i'm not a rich guy

00:08:25.420 um i'm just a regular guy drove my kids to school half an hour ago got to pick them up later and

00:08:29.580 trying to juggle everything in life and doing all this stuff as well but we have to consistently

00:08:35.020 speak up and it's not enough to do it online because online everyone's in their own little

00:08:39.420 echo chamber and it might feel like you're reaching a lot of people if you get a thousand

00:08:43.260 likes on a tweet or something but really it's nothing this has to be out in the real world

00:08:47.820 talking to everyday people so i got some signs made that i wear like a sandwich board

00:08:55.020 and usually my sign on my front says children cannot consent to puberty blockers

00:09:00.300 on my back i usually have one that says children are never born in the wrong body

00:09:05.180 i have signs that say gender ideology does not belong in schools i have some higher jk rowling

00:09:09.740 ones i made up a new definition of dad which is a human male who protects his kids from gender

00:09:16.620 ideology and so i wear that one sometimes and uh i just hang out on street corners in downtown

00:09:24.380 vancouver and i've been traveling the country as well and i just go to wherever it's busy

00:09:29.740 just have conversations with whoever wants to have them so i just stand there and if someone

00:09:34.140 asks me what puberty blockers are i have a conversation and they get educated and then

00:09:39.100 they go home and hopefully they have that conversation and then every once in a while

00:09:42.700 events happen and it reaches several thousand or several hundred thousand or several million people

00:09:47.980 like what happened after i got attacked in montreal um i guess most people watching this

00:09:54.700 probably won't know but i was in montreal six weeks ago and five people four men and a woman i'm told

00:10:04.300 uh the police tell me it's five people they reviewed footage and they uh jumped me and

00:10:10.060 And I got punched in the face, punched in the back of the head, got my signs ripped off

00:10:14.560 me, lost my body cam.

00:10:16.660 As I was backing away, a guy picked up a large traffic cone, which I wasn't that worried

00:10:21.280 about because it's just a traffic cone.

00:10:22.960 But the base is pretty thick, I guess.

00:10:25.380 And he kept swinging it at me.

00:10:27.780 And I kept blocking it with my left forearm.

00:10:29.860 And one of those blows broke my whole nut.

00:10:33.160 So it's doing fine now.

00:10:34.840 I'm getting my strength back.

00:10:35.620 but it's a crazy world out there when you can't even advocate for protecting kids who are being

00:10:42.100 prescribed an off-label drug that was originally designed to treat prostate cancer and has never

00:10:46.180 had any clinical trials done for the purpose that it's being used so to answer your original

00:10:51.620 question sorry i got sidetracked uh what spurred me on to do this i have girls and

00:10:59.940 And I just, I'm getting older.

00:11:04.540 I looked around at the world, and I thought,

00:11:06.960 who is going to go out onto the streets

00:11:10.120 and try to spread awareness with the broader populace?

00:11:15.320 And the answer that came back to me was nobody.

00:11:17.360 So I just felt like I then had to do it.

00:11:21.200 So that's what I'm doing.

00:11:24.340 It's inspiring.

00:11:25.300 It's inspiring.

00:11:26.700 And, well, honestly, it sounds like a calling out,

00:11:29.620 not a calling out of yourself but a you know being brought out of something and being brought

00:11:33.460 into the into the greater narrative of things it's kind of biblical actually it's pretty brilliant

00:11:37.640 i i think that to the point of starting those conversations

00:11:41.040 people people today don't converse what's your conversation what what have they been like what

00:11:48.560 has it been like to kind of break that fourth wall with everybody is living in their echo chamber

00:11:53.180 what what has that been like to reach out and try to bring people on side

00:11:58.000 boy well it's fun I've been arrested twice I've had tons of abuse death threats all that sort of

00:12:06.600 stuff but I don't focus on that stuff because that's all just noise you know we we focus way

00:12:12.200 too much on the scary things it's important to know that that stuff's out there I guess

00:12:17.680 but the vast overwhelming majority of people are completely and utterly 100% supportive

00:12:26.220 eight, nine

00:12:28.280 out of ten people that I talk to

00:12:29.800 even in Vancouver, downtown Vancouver

00:12:32.060 which is a pretty woke city

00:12:33.240 they're very supportive. It's just that the people

00:12:36.220 who are against

00:12:38.240 this are very vocal

00:12:39.580 and very angry and very emotional

00:12:42.220 they don't know how to talk, they can't carry a conversation

00:12:44.380 all they can do is yell and scream

00:12:46.280 and swear

00:12:46.740 but they're just inconsequential, it doesn't matter

00:12:50.060 what matters is that we get this message out

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00:12:52.480 just the regular people

00:12:55.820 and especially parents because parents simply don't know what is being taught to our kids

00:13:03.140 in school they have no idea in 2000 I guess it was 2016 when this legislation passed to introduce

00:13:13.700 SOGI 123 into our schools in British Columbia the government forced it through first second

00:13:19.660 and third reading all in an afternoon there was no debate about this there was no consultation

00:13:24.160 with parents they just snuck it through and then they funded this company called the arc foundation

00:13:29.440 which put all these materials together and like we've seen with this father that's sitting in jail

00:13:35.920 right now this has real world consequences because the daughter of this father who's now sitting in

00:13:43.600 jail because he refused to stop speaking out about the harm coming to his kid the daughter was a

00:13:50.480 student in the delta school district delta is the first district that started off with soji123

00:13:59.280 they were part of the pilot program and the very first year because of school teachings

00:14:06.000 this girl decided to transition to being a boy which of course is an impossibility and brings 0.97

00:14:10.960 with it irreversible damage when they start medicalizing themselves but that's what this

00:14:16.320 school curriculum is now doing it's brainwashing it's indoctrinating it's confusing children

00:14:21.760 and there are is no shortage of therapists out there of endocrinologists of woke people

00:14:30.400 who are all in on this ideology and will just affirm these children only there's no other

00:14:38.480 condition in life where we let children self-diagnose with a serious medical condition

00:14:43.440 and then go on to a medical pathway of self-harm yet that's what all of our clinicians

00:14:50.780 are now promoting as best practice for these children it's totally nuts

00:14:55.540 a lot of people say that that it started with the philosophical breakdown of thinking that you know

00:15:03.560 obviously gender and sex were directly connected there's no question that of course there can be

00:15:09.140 dysphoria between those things. This has been an ongoing discussion in theology and philosophy for

00:15:15.540 years, especially when it comes to the question of men, because unlike women, their biological 1.00

00:15:20.200 change through adolescence doesn't just kind of necessarily inherently give them purpose.

00:15:25.660 Becoming a man is not just a cultural trope. It's something that is actually psychologically and

00:15:31.400 biologically true in the sense that, you know, just because you can now procreate doesn't mean

00:15:37.000 that you are you're ready for procreation um with with kind of what's happened and what you've

00:15:43.480 observed do you think that do you think that a lot of this is is just misplaced angst around

00:15:50.100 purpose around happiness is it it what are what are people doing this for is it just all about

00:15:55.620 power of this agenda or is there some kind of legitimate question that has been twisted and

00:16:02.780 directed the wrong way so going back in time activists have been lying and they've been

00:16:11.000 really successful this is a propaganda battle that they've won and so now we have to push back

00:16:18.100 and we have to play catch up because they've gotten their lies into all of our governments

00:16:24.100 and our institutions so if we go back in time and you want to look at the genesis of some of this

00:16:29.880 a lot of it stems from just a few really rich white men who themselves as adults trans

00:16:39.760 now call themselves trans women or trans identified males there's a billionaire

00:16:45.000 named martine rothblatt who started xm serious radio and has done a bunch of pharmaceutical

00:16:51.520 stuff and other things probably a really smart person but totally into this ideology martine

00:16:58.900 Rothblatt is what we would call a transhumanist. Martine Rothblatt is married to a woman and has

00:17:05.500 had a robot made in the image of his wife. And it's his end goal one day to upload her

00:17:14.080 consciousness into this robot because he essentially believes that we as humans can

00:17:18.780 live forever. So we get into this religious aspect where these people believe that this

00:17:26.940 it's just a shell and we are essentially a soul but we're a gendered soul it's our inside that 0.88

00:17:36.160 really counts right there's there's nothing scientific to this whatsoever it's totally an

00:17:42.520 ideology uh so Martine Rothblatt has funded a lot of things another trans woman named Jennifer 0.79

00:17:49.900 pritzker another billionaire who is an heir to the hyatt hotel chain i believe this person splashes

00:18:01.500 money around to gender clinics and hospitals around the world jennifer pritzker funded the 0.83

00:18:06.700 only chair in transgender studies right here in dc at the university of victoria so gave them a few

00:18:13.020 million dollars they now have a chair in transgender studies if you go over to victoria

00:18:17.900 you can see it reflected on the streets it's absolutely insane over there this ideology has

00:18:24.300 completely taken hold um they funded this organization and helped to create it called

00:18:30.300 WPATH which is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health which lays down standards

00:18:35.340 of care and in that though it's full of um fallacies like just false statements and

00:18:47.820 just through their activism they and their money and of course money in the pharmaceutical industry

00:18:53.820 pharmaceutical companies are buying this too there's billions of dollars in this um they

00:18:59.260 started to make headway and they were forming roots underground for a really long time to get

00:19:04.620 their foundation and we've seen this thing really take off the last few years but those roots were

00:19:10.620 forming for a couple decades beforehand and it's gotten to the point now where they could die

00:19:15.820 tomorrow it wouldn't matter because this thing is now being pushed by all of our governments

00:19:21.100 and also by all these different lgbt groups i say the t kind of separate because it should be 0.98

00:19:28.300 separate because lgb is based on your sexuality the t isn't about that it's about this pseudo

00:19:36.460 religion this gender ideology and so when gay rights were run were one which i'm very happy 0.56

00:19:43.820 they were there were all these organizations under the lgbt umbrella with all this money

00:19:51.260 and that money started to pour into the transgender lobby and so there's a lot of money behind this

00:19:59.900 and the only people fighting back against it are just regular citizens like myself and like a lot

00:20:06.300 of women online more and more men are getting involved now but everyone's too afraid to speak

00:20:13.740 out because as we've seen this lobby is so powerful that people get fired from their jobs just for

00:20:18.060 stating that they believe in biological sex no it's it's a genuinely scary thing it's a genuinely

00:20:25.460 scary thing um we are we are having a very long conversation today and that's good and then

00:20:30.780 that's a way that we should do these things because people need to be eased into this stuff

00:20:34.380 so they can understand it fully and it's it's also good to be having this conversation because

00:20:38.160 more people can view it all at once and more people will view it of course as we move forward

00:20:42.020 as they play it again on youtube or facebook wherever we are again i'm speaking with chris

00:20:46.600 elson and we are talking about the soji curriculum in british columbia and what effect that's having

00:20:53.840 on children today and how we might fight it we have a comment from one of our uh viewers and

00:20:59.600 that's isabel oliver and she is asking us what is soji can you talk about the curriculum uh what

00:21:05.680 the curriculum actually is so chris why don't you walk us through this a little bit so we know in

00:21:09.900 general there's there's this transgender thing going on we know it's being taught in schools

00:21:13.540 But what is the core message of Soji and how did it get here?

00:21:17.280 What does Soji even stand for?

00:21:19.360 Are you able to bring up websites for people to see?

00:21:21.580 I am.

00:21:21.920 If you drop them in the chat, I can send them over to the producer and the producer will bring them up and screen share them or Chromecast or whatever it's called.

00:21:30.860 I'm not the tech guy.

00:21:31.680 You don't want me to do tech.

00:21:33.400 Okay.

00:21:34.860 One second.

00:21:35.700 I'm going to bring up my, I have a website page.

00:21:41.020 So I'm going to put that in the chat here.

00:21:43.540 and then i'll get into this here so perfect go to billboardchris.com and go to the section

00:21:52.660 in schools i actually have some of the lesson plans on there but for shoji stands for sexual

00:21:58.940 orientation and gender identity so when we grew up we had sex education you learned about the

00:22:06.180 basics of biological sex and how sex works and all that sort of stuff today the focus is on

00:22:11.700 obviously sexual orientation they talk about that and then there's this entirely different subject

00:22:18.120 now different than what we had when we were growing up that yeah let's stop right there

00:22:22.680 nathan i'll get into that one in a second where we talk about gender identity and so gender identity

00:22:28.400 is essentially being taught that it's your true inner self that it's how you feel inside and this

00:22:35.300 is totally based on stereotypes so if a girl is a tomboy and does what we traditionally consider 1.00

00:22:42.100 to be stereotypically masculine things we are now teaching these children that they are actual boys

00:22:51.860 this sounds crazy but it's true and they believe it nathan this is the thing on twitter just

00:23:01.300 yesterday i'll read this in a second but there's a a text message conversation from a 12 year old

00:23:08.260 girl to her therapist that i shared and this is a girl who's just having a bit of a tough time

00:23:16.020 she was really happy when she was 11 now she's 12 she's not and she thinks she's a boy and the

00:23:21.300 therapist this girl's clearly confused but the therapist is pushing it on her that she's actually

00:23:26.340 a boy because she has a boy grain and a boy heart and anyway what we're looking at here this is an

00:23:32.980 actual lesson plan if you go to bc.sogeeducation.org that's their official website but i've got the

00:23:39.300 links on my site here and this is an actual lesson plan for kindergarteners from like kindergarten

00:23:44.580 to grade three the kids will get a card and as you can see here they get a card and their job is to

00:23:51.060 walk around the class and introduce themselves based on their assigned cards so hi my name is

00:23:57.300 alex please call me they my name is aaron please call me they my name is lee please call me he you

00:24:03.940 know some of these might be you know for kim and please call me she or it might be kim please call

00:24:09.940 me he they're already indoctrinating these kids into believing when these children are four and

00:24:15.940 five years old that boys and girls don't really exist as a biological thing it's just whatever

00:24:25.460 you want to be and obviously that's just ridiculous this can all sound about being inclusive

00:24:36.420 and diverse and that's how they sell these things nothing that's truly evil in society never comes

00:24:42.020 out with big red devil horns on it it always looks nice on the surface but you have to dig down and

00:24:48.980 you have to see the repercussions and the consequences of what's actually happening

00:24:51.860 and what's actually happening is that we're giving kids gender dysphoria we're causing

00:24:57.640 body dissociation these kids are ending up at gender clinics where these ideological doctors 1.00

00:25:02.840 then just no questions asked it's called gender affirming care they just prescribe drugs and then

00:25:09.320 cross-sex hormones so this is the gender bread person this is another approved resource for 0.54

00:25:13.960 teachers to use this resource right here is one of the most used resources across the world

00:25:20.440 actually you'll find it in the children's hospitals you'll find it everywhere

00:25:25.640 and it's full of lives like right in the bottom right there it says sex assigned at birth first

00:25:32.360 of all we don't assign sex at birth it's not a choice we observe sex at birth and 99.995

00:25:39.800 of the time it's easily observable there are people with conditions which you'll see it listed

00:25:45.320 here they call them intersex as though that's a third sex intersex is actually a misnomer the

00:25:51.560 proper word used for this should be a variation of sex development or a disorder of sex development

00:25:57.240 it's where something went wrong during the kids development and so anyway they're all male or

00:26:06.280 female ultimately what determines our sex is the type of gametes we produce i produce small gametes 0.96

00:26:10.920 women produce large gametes we have sperm they have eggs this is ultimately what determines 1.00

00:26:16.520 what sex we are because we are a sexually dimorphic species meaning there is only male

00:26:22.920 and there are only females that's it and people don't have to like that for it to be true 1.00

00:26:30.040 it's just the way it is but the trans activists really don't like that and so they will scream

00:26:37.000 bloody murder if you try to just present basic scientific fact and so as we see here on this

00:26:43.400 gender red person our gender it says is on a scale it's on a there's another handout where

00:26:53.560 they like ask you basically to pick between zero and a hundred where you fall on this scale

00:26:58.520 you might want to just stay there yeah and the whole thing is based on stereotypes

00:27:03.880 it's about your interests your hobbies your likes your dislikes what jobs you want to do when you're

00:27:09.560 older and we're teaching these kids that it's just stereotypes that determine their gender and we

00:27:18.120 never should have actually split the word gender apart from sex it was used anonymously as maybe

00:27:22.920 more of a polite term for the word sex but now they're just turning it into a religion basically

00:27:31.720 where stereotypes determine who you are they speak out of both sides of the mouth they say in one

00:27:35.960 sentence that stereotypes are totally unimportant and you should just express yourself however you

00:27:41.480 want and i agree completely with that but then in the very next sentence they say that well because

00:27:49.160 you don't fit into this box of what we consider a girl to be that means you're actually a boy

00:27:56.280 and it's all based on western regressive stereotypes it's totally nice i think that's

00:28:02.200 something else that kind of needs to be noted here is that it if if gender is so inessential

00:28:09.080 why would it be so essential to transition to a different gender if you can be anything you want

00:28:14.220 to be then why is there a imperative to ensure that children transition what that doesn't seem

00:28:22.760 to make any sense if either gender is important or it's not this always seems to be a problem

00:28:29.620 inside of uh various uh radical ideas i won't even call them progressive ideas because i don't think

00:28:35.060 they're progressive but various radical ideas that i come into contact with in the political world

00:28:39.860 is that they as you just said speak both sides of their mouth simultaneously speak out on both

00:28:44.580 sides of their mouth they say this is this must change this must stop right or this religious

00:28:49.060 symbol has to be taken down or gender gender is inessential how dare you impose your ideas around 0.94

00:28:54.020 gender or sex or gender roles upon me then simultaneously there must be a revolution to

00:28:59.940 change it all but if if that had been the case then why is any of it essential to begin with

00:29:05.300 where's the argument where's the crime so my working theory on some of this stuff

00:29:14.180 is that creepy men have forced this into our schools kind of to buy legitimacy for themselves

00:29:22.100 because if gender ideology and gender identity is actually a thing and it affects millions and

00:29:31.120 millions of kids now well it kind of buys them legitimacy you know what i mean and it's not that

00:29:38.760 they aren't legitimate people are going to take this and say it's hate speech or something

00:29:42.140 but traditionally gender dysphoria affected a tiny fraction of the population

00:29:46.860 it affected mostly young boys so gender dysphoria as a definition starts really young

00:29:52.440 and persists into adolescence what we're seeing today is not that we're seeing a craze affecting

00:29:57.920 primarily young girls who never had any dysphoria before in their lives until they get to high school

00:30:03.580 and maybe just before that and life starts getting tough because puberty is tough and

00:30:10.180 there's a lot of anxiety and angst and this is normal but if you can convince society that this

00:30:15.720 is just you know normal to switch sexes and it's normal to medicalize yourself and it's normal to

00:30:26.400 block puberty well like I don't know like the people that started this were autogynephialic

00:30:35.440 men so autogynephialy is a condition where men get aroused by the idea of themselves being a woman

00:30:43.920 and so they dress up as women and all that sort of stuff if an adult wants to present however

00:30:52.620 they want to present they should go for it but we shouldn't be pushing this stuff on kids

00:30:56.340 and that's what we're doing and these lesson plans lead to trips to the counselor's office

00:31:03.140 the counselors then affirm these children more thus solidifying the delusion that they can switch sex

00:31:09.180 even more then they go to the gender clinics at the children's hospitals who also only affirm 0.89

00:31:13.820 these children they don't do any questioning they don't talk therapy they don't look into is there

00:31:17.900 autism they don't look into that they've been abused has there been sexual abuse is there

00:31:21.180 trauma going on in the family they don't look into anything they simply prescribe these drugs

00:31:27.180 as though i was going to the doctor said i had a headache and he prescribed me advil it's no

00:31:31.980 different i was just in ottawa and a girl in 20 minutes went into the children's hospital of

00:31:36.140 eastern ontario and in 20 minutes on her first appointment with the endocrinologist

00:31:40.300 she was prescribed lupron it's an injection of this prostate cancer drug it's a drug also

00:31:45.820 used to treat endometriosis but it's never been used for these purposes and this whole thing is

00:31:51.020 a giant experiment on children and so anyway how can a doctor know a child in 20 minutes how can

00:31:56.620 you know anything about anybody in 20 minutes it's impossible yet we take this drastic step

00:32:02.380 of blocking puberty in them this drug it's called lupron it's also been prescribed to the harshest

00:32:08.620 sex offenders pedophiles in order to chemically castrate them and what it does is it stops the

00:32:15.660 pituitary gland from releasing the hormones that trigger your secondary sex characteristics and 0.87

00:32:20.780 your bones to gain density and everything that happens during puberty none of that stuff will 0.98

00:32:24.860 occur so girls breasts won't grow boys penises won't grow girls pelvises won't expand bones 1.00

00:32:31.420 won't gain any density it increases the chance for heart attacks blood clots a lot of these girls 1.00

00:32:39.020 after five years on testosterone they have to get their uterus removed either as a prophylactic 0.89

00:32:45.900 because their chance of cancer is so much greater or because what this drug will do after prolonged

00:32:52.220 use what testosterone treatment does after prolonged use is it causes vaginal atrophy it

00:32:57.500 It causes uterine atrophy, causes abdominal pain, and they have to get their uterus removed. 0.98

00:33:03.900 So we are sterilizing perfectly healthy children because when they're 12 years old, they say,

00:33:12.400 I'm actually a boy, and we just go along with it.

00:33:17.460 And it starts in the schools.

00:33:20.000 So it's child abuse, and it's not affecting one or two kids here and there.

00:33:28.460 Virtually every school in the country now has a girl who's wanting to transition.

00:33:34.760 Entire peer groups of girls are wanting to transition.

00:33:37.200 It's cool.

00:33:38.160 It's celebrating.

00:33:40.520 And all of these kids have depression, anxiety disorders, something else going on.

00:33:47.620 A lot of them have autism at some of these gender clinics.

00:33:49.720 Up to 40% of these kids have autism.

00:33:51.320 And the studies that we do have, which go back decades, for kids with genuine gender dysphoria, that they followed these kids for years and years, decades even.

00:34:04.660 The vast majority of these children with gender dysphoria, when they went through puberty, their dysphoria desisted.

00:34:13.080 It went away.

00:34:14.080 and so it's only safe to assume that this current craze affecting primarily girls the desistance 0.90

00:34:22.180 rate will be even higher because this isn't genuine gender dysphoria this is just natural 0.98

00:34:27.580 teenage angst and exploring of identities that we then put on steroids and give them drugs to

00:34:36.080 help them transition and permanently alter their bodies and they'll never have their sexual function 0.99

00:34:41.800 restored boys end up with a 12 year old penis for life you know some of the stuff gets pretty 0.97

00:34:46.900 graphic but it has to be spoken because this is what's happening all in the name of inclusivity 0.97

00:34:53.940 it's not okay the other day i was on uh just a quick chat with a mutual mutual friend of ours

00:35:03.880 uh stewart parker and uh he made the point that uh he's just referring to this movement as the

00:35:10.440 new eugenicists now uh that because of the way they're seizing children and that some of these

00:35:16.040 children are clearly children who have uh disabilities uh and of course or or uh backgrounds

00:35:21.980 that are disadvantaged or underprivileged or and even so for particular ethnicities that have both

00:35:27.160 those things uh as as part of part of the struggle they have that that there is a eugenic sort of

00:35:32.860 thing happening here that some that people are are essentially attacking a certain a certain class

00:35:38.900 and group and even ethnicity, perhaps even race of people, really, if we look at it,

00:35:43.240 it's not that there isn't any diversity there, but that a great deal of seizures that are

00:35:47.800 happening and everything else are directly related to these questions.

00:35:52.500 Is this just, I mean, power begets power, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

00:35:58.200 These powerful men that came up with these ideas, are they just influencing the world

00:36:03.600 in this negative way because they want to just dominate other people?

00:36:06.640 Is that what happened here?

00:36:07.820 Is it that simple?

00:36:08.900 it really is that dastard no i don't i don't think so but that's my opinion it's just my opinion

00:36:15.280 these men genuinely believe i mean it's not just men it's honestly pushing this stuff today

00:36:22.660 it's primarily young women who are into this ideology under 25 that's nine out of ten abusive 0.95

00:36:29.000 comments i get on the street are from young women but that's because they've been indoctrinated

00:36:32.180 and they've been to university or they go to gender studies classes which are now the renamed

00:36:36.820 women's studies it's not women's studies anymore it's gender studies and they're more empathetic

00:36:42.340 than young men and they all know girls who are transitioning so it only makes sense that they

00:36:46.340 get mad at me when they see me on the street because they see me as some bigot but i'm telling

00:36:51.540 you the scope of this it's breathtaking how widespread this belief has become but to answer

00:36:56.900 your question is this a eugenics movement in effect it's like eugenics but i honestly believe

00:37:03.140 that these people consider that we are a gendered soul and it is just our inside feelings that

00:37:11.160 matter and they're pushing this stuff but then at the same time they're lying so i guess i don't

00:37:22.260 have an answer for all of that because they're lying and they know they're lying so it is evil

00:37:28.000 i call this evil because that's what it is because we're harming kids especially our most

00:37:32.860 vulnerable kids where that evil comes from and it's genesis so i don't have the answer to that

00:37:39.500 where does wallace wong come from where does he get his his beliefs wallace wong is a psychologist

00:37:46.420 in british columbia who treats a lot of these kids and he has said in a recorded talk he gave

00:37:56.800 at a library that he himself this is his own words he's transitioning over a thousand children in bc

00:38:04.480 including more than 500 orphans and foster kids many of whom are indigenous many of whom have

00:38:14.240 autism most of whom will probably grow up to be gay or lesbian because all of our studies show

00:38:21.200 the majority of these kids once they grow up and they figure themselves out most of them are just 0.74

00:38:25.760 gay so this is gay conversion therapy like we've never seen it before because we're actually 0.94

00:38:32.080 altering their bodies and transitioning them to the other sex it's like what happens in iran 0.99

00:38:37.360 in iran it's illegal to be gay punishable by death so they force gay people to transition 1.00

00:38:44.880 because then instead of being a gay man then they're a straight trans woman or these people

00:38:50.800 have to flee for asylum so it's what we're doing it's what they're doing in iran and we're doing 0.99

00:38:57.200 it here and we're calling it kindness i think the other thing that needs to to kind of be noted here

00:39:04.560 too is that it's funny because there is a bit of an intersection here the other day we were talking

00:39:09.920 about the vaccine this isn't a commentary on the vaccine itself but the point is that if there's

00:39:15.760 There's nowhere else for kind of the ACLU sort of people, civil liberties people to kind of stand in solidarity on this exact question, regardless of which way they're coming from.

00:39:25.100 It's that just as the government maybe shouldn't be able to mandate you get the jab, maybe the government shouldn't be wielding the scalpel that that would leave you sterile.

00:39:35.300 We had arguments about this.

00:39:37.080 There's been cases in Canada about sterilization because it was happening on on reservations in order to alleviate poverty.

00:39:44.060 Again, another eugenics stance that happened.

00:39:47.340 This happened through the interwar period.

00:39:48.860 We have it on record that this was happening.

00:39:51.220 The government had to pay back millions at some point.

00:39:53.880 It had to admit that it had been wrong.

00:39:56.620 Do you think that at some point, if the tide turns and this is finally stopped,

00:40:02.200 what are going to be the repercussions?

00:40:04.140 Is not society going to have to do a gigantic mea culpa

00:40:07.140 when they finally admit that they were wrong about this?

00:40:10.000 We are.

00:40:11.160 We are.

00:40:11.620 and i hope every one of these kids gets millions because we owe it to them because they're in our

00:40:20.100 care and we're hurting them badly for life these girls that start on testosterone once they start 1.00

00:40:37.140 they have to stay on it for life there's almost a million dollars in this for the pharmaceutical

00:40:41.540 companies over the lifetime of these patients it's a little different in canada because we

00:40:46.180 have socialized medicine but down in the states there's very much a financial incentive for

00:40:50.740 transitioning these kids because all these doctors are making huge bank every time they get one

00:40:57.460 they're they're getting over a hundred thousand dollars just to do a sex reassignment surgery

00:41:02.020 and more than a hundred percent of the time if you look at a hundred surgeries

00:41:05.620 for every 100 surgeries done there's like 150 complications with these surgeries it's completely

00:41:12.900 unethical what's happening we have 13 year old girls getting double mastectomies we have in bc

00:41:18.980 the infants act says that parents have no say to stop the medical intervention of these children

00:41:25.300 because if the doctor who is a totally ideologically driven lunatic if the doctor

00:41:30.980 who transitions children for a living this is what he does or she if the doctor deems it necessary 0.55

00:41:36.740 which obviously they're going to be necessary that's all that's needed the doctor says the

00:41:41.860 child understands and the doctor does not need parental approval and that's exactly what happened

00:41:46.900 to the daughter of this father here in bc they the father received a letter from the bc children's

00:41:52.260 hospital stating that parents can be friends and advisors to their daughter but they can't

00:41:58.340 stop the medical transition and this girl was only 13 when she signed this consent form and on this

00:42:04.340 consent form to start on testosterone it says right on the form that we have no information

00:42:09.460 about the long-term effects so if we have no information how is it possible for a 13 year

00:42:16.260 old to get informed consent this is an impossibility so we need lawyers to start challenging this we

00:42:24.580 We need brave young adults who have been through this and minors with their parents to sue.

00:42:35.200 That's the only way we're going to change this because the government has completely washed its hands of any responsibility.

00:42:41.400 I know that for a fact because I've talked to them and they won't discuss it.

00:42:45.720 and so in the uk there there's a woman named kira bell which she's 23 years old now when she was

00:42:56.160 16 she went to the only gender clinic in the uk which is called the tavistock and she went on

00:43:01.680 puberty blockers she got testosterone she got a double mastectomy and then in her early 20s she

00:43:07.180 went whoa what have you guys done to me i was a kid struggling with different issues

00:43:17.260 and i was just told right away that transitioning is the answer and it's not the studies we have

00:43:25.420 show that it doesn't improve gender dysphoria there's a honeymoon phase for at least the first 0.99

00:43:31.180 year because obviously if you give a kid something they've been obsessing about forever and not all

00:43:36.300 the long-term impacts have set in yet there's going to be that honeymoon phase because they

00:43:39.580 got what they wanted but over the long term it makes gender dysphoria even worse we are told

00:43:45.980 and parents are told that if we don't let their kids transition that they will commit suicide

00:43:52.300 dr wallace wong in that very talk i was just referring to literally says that if kids

00:43:59.260 aren't getting the drugs they want quick enough you know what he says pull a stunt

00:44:06.300 say you're going to commit suicide it works every time

00:44:13.100 so these kids are being coached on what to say as well to their parents and to therapists and

00:44:18.620 parents faced with their beautiful child who they've been through all those moments with

00:44:25.180 their whole life sacrificing everything to bring up this beautiful innocent child these parents

00:44:31.580 are being given this option by so-called professionals that it's either transition

00:44:37.420 or suicide what's it going to be mom so parents go along with this too because they're told that

00:44:44.940 it's the liberal nice thing to do and it it it's yes beyond it's beyond crazy it's it's you know

00:44:56.060 know the other day i had to make a uh make a reference to something about about the lockdowns

00:45:01.700 that are happening in bc and whatever else and i said it reads like it reads like a badly written

00:45:06.100 sophomore attempt at at dystopian fiction but it's like this is what it is like this is this

00:45:13.980 is beyond dystopian this is i this is literally yeah it's literally the destruction of children

00:45:20.200 and and the destruction of innocence um i i mean maybe maybe i keep i'm not trying to pull us off

00:45:28.160 message or anything like that but is there is there is there not an argument then for those

00:45:32.980 of us who are like i would consider myself a traditionalist you know i'm i'm a devout roman

00:45:37.760 catholic uh i was raised a protestant in a pretty strong protestant background and and obviously

00:45:43.300 pretty socially conservative and and so i mean without trying to be a reactionary and without

00:45:48.460 trying to say like you know that the socially conservative people told the more socially

00:45:53.320 liberal people so at that they were proved right in the end or whatever i i think that there's a

00:45:58.840 more charitable way of saying that but is is there not an argument here that maybe the introduction

00:46:04.280 of sex education to begin with at a very young age was when people were objecting to that and

00:46:09.400 they said that this would lead to other questions is there is there a way to bridge that gap or does

00:46:15.300 do people just kind of have to leave aside the various you know wedges they have against each

00:46:20.100 other unite and just fight this thing and argue those issues later i think we need to just fight

00:46:25.460 this issue i mean there has to be sex education in school because i mean personally i'd be fine

00:46:32.940 if my kids didn't get it because my wife and i teach a lot of stuff to our kids too we are parents

00:46:43.460 as first educators that is the philosophy in this house and if my kids aren't learning math

00:46:50.900 in school well i'll teach them that but and my daughter who's 11 years old now you know we gave

00:46:57.140 her a book all about puberty you know around when she turned 10 and she read all about that she

00:47:02.260 learned all about sex and all that stuff in this proper book you know but not every kid gets that

00:47:07.620 at home so we need to have sex education in the schools does it need to be so hyper sexualized 0.91

00:47:14.980 where all we're talking about are sexual identities and sexual orientation all the time

00:47:21.060 i think it's got a bit ridiculous in high school now like probably half the kids all have some

00:47:26.180 other identity or they think they're bisexual or they think they're this and that when they aren't

00:47:31.140 but they're all exploring stuff and that's fine i'm not trying to sound like a debbie downer on

00:47:35.380 that sort of thing but it's certainly become super hyper sexualized a lot of these teachings

00:47:42.100 i don't think kids when they're 12 years old need to be hearing about some of the stuff that's

00:47:48.260 discussed i think we can keep it a little more simple but we really need to focus because it's

00:47:57.620 easy to get sidetracked and you can't you know you can't try to go after everything because we're

00:48:07.140 not going to win every battle but the one thing that liberals and conservatives all agree on

00:48:12.980 is that boys are boys and girls are girls that sex we are male and female and that children are 0.51

00:48:20.260 coming to harm because they're being lied to everyone agrees on this once they understand

00:48:25.460 the situation so we all need to work together and try to stop this it's okay to work with people

00:48:34.580 who have some different opinions than you it's okay to even be friends with them

00:48:39.060 you don't have to agree on everything it doesn't matter we've gotten into this society where oh

00:48:44.820 this person has an opinion i don't like therefore i hate them and i can never talk to them and i can 0.64

00:48:48.020 never work with them because it's going to make me look bad i talk to people all the time who

00:48:51.860 have views that i don't share it doesn't i'm not going to stop because these people have kids too

00:49:00.180 and their followers have kids and this is about the kids so who cares where their parents ideology

00:49:08.100 falls or their politics falls we all need to work together yeah no we need to work together and

00:49:14.500 that's and that's something that i i want to be clear that on this show from day one we've been

00:49:18.900 been very it's that my policy has always been that we are going to talk to people who want to speak

00:49:23.420 freely right and uh that we're not going to censor anybody here and and that we've had quite a few

00:49:28.540 people from you know across the aisle like across from me then again there's a lot of people across

00:49:32.960 the aisle from as many conservatives who don't agree with what i have to say but the point is

00:49:36.540 that this is this is a place of free expression and this is a place of building those coalitions

00:49:41.380 that's what i've always wanted this platform to be and that's what i'm hopeful for and you can

00:49:44.780 see it in the in the comments as well people who sure vote all sorts of ways are all on the same

00:49:49.500 side of this question which is this is terrible this needs to stop one of the things i'd actually

00:49:54.660 like to ask you a little bit about chris is so so again we live in this time of hyper hyper

00:50:00.200 sexualized identity and also very partisan questions around identity and the identitarian

00:50:05.020 questions and you know there's this woke crowd i mean you know unless unless i'm misreading you

00:50:11.180 know kind of the pigment of your skin and and the fact that you're married with children i mean 0.82

00:50:15.640 you're you're a sexual white male fighting this question and then you have to come into 0.61

00:50:20.540 have allies in the female world etc what's that been like what's it been like uh being being as 0.59

00:50:26.620 you are and then having to fight this thing in such a minefield in such a politically intense time

00:50:32.660 well i'm wearing a pink shirt nathan so are you sure i'm a male because it's pink you know

00:50:39.860 but no i am the uh i'm like you killed the producer with that one by the way he almost

00:50:45.860 fell out of his chair oh well it's not that funny but i am i am a white male heterosexual with blue

00:50:54.000 eyes so right away i come under all sorts of attack they're kind of bloodshot today i need

00:51:00.060 to sleep more but um i don't worry about the haters there's a lot of haters and there's

00:51:07.620 misandrist out there and whatever it doesn't matter you have to block out the noise if you

00:51:14.500 let the noise cause you to stop doing what you know is right you'll never do anything

00:51:19.280 because there's always going to be noise so i mean i could tell you stories for days and days

00:51:25.560 and probably weeks of some crazy stuff that's happened behind the scenes from people who are

00:51:29.640 behaving really badly trying to stop this campaign but i just don't worry about it we've got to

00:51:37.540 stay positive we've got to focus on the good that's happening which is these conversations

00:51:40.760 are good we are creating awareness media are picking things up from time to time and people

00:51:46.840 are learning the truth because ultimately the truth will win it's just a question of how long

00:51:54.640 it takes and how many thousands or tens of thousands of kids are going to come to harm

00:51:59.100 so i'm just trying to accelerate that process yep no no completely understand i again to back to

00:52:07.520 that question of of you know the crime against women especially as as it is right now it appears

00:52:12.940 to be that that the the pendulum has swung so that it's more women transitioning than men

00:52:17.760 um it again you're you're the father of daughters uh and and you see this harm that's being done

00:52:25.760 to to the female side of our species what what happened how how did how did men or any and 1.00

00:52:33.740 society for that matter how did men and society and the rest of us ever ever think that this would

00:52:38.660 be okay why did why did we allow this to happen why have we allowed i mean it whether you want

00:52:43.700 to use a more kind of chivalric sort of language of like the species we're supposed to protect or

00:52:48.000 if you want to try and use a more equitable language of today of like well i mean we should

00:52:51.800 treat people equally and the idea that we're going to do violence to young women in this way

00:52:55.660 is is horrendous what what happened there what what was the switch why don't why don't more men

00:53:02.300 stand up to fight this they don't know they don't know what's going on how can they know what's

00:53:07.420 going on when the media won't report on cbc ctv global those are our three mainstream news sources

00:53:14.140 they refuse to report on any of this i've been interviewed by global for five minutes

00:53:21.100 i have the video of it someone else took a video of me being videoed by global

00:53:24.860 they won't release a second of it all they do is push this ideology more and more and more

00:53:32.300 The governments are weak, and they are cowardly, and they succumbed to a vicious mob that would cancel them if they didn't get what they wanted.

00:53:44.460 The trans lobby, the trans activists, are the biggest babies that have ever existed in the history of the world. 1.00

00:53:50.920 And as soon as you call up anything, they just cry and cry and cry and try and get you canceled and try to get you fired. 0.94

00:53:56.400 They've come after my wife in her workplace, even, just because she's married to me. 0.55

00:54:01.820 she's never said a word about any of this stuff 0.99

00:54:03.580 but the governments just suck guys 0.99

00:54:10.080 like that's the truth 1.00

00:54:11.480 they suck 0.99

00:54:12.640 these left-wing governments that we currently have 1.00

00:54:15.420 are awful because they don't have a spine

00:54:19.280 and that's just the truth of it

00:54:22.380 because they know what's happening

00:54:24.960 I know they know because I've talked to them

00:54:28.240 because we've sent hundreds of briefs to them

00:54:31.380 Randall Garrison is an MP with the NDP party who sits on the Justice Committee.

00:54:35.740 So when a bill becomes law in Canada, it goes through three readings.

00:54:40.880 First reading is a formality.

00:54:42.120 Second reading is pretty much a formality.

00:54:45.560 It's when people might voice some disagreement, but most of these politicians are still too cowardly to voice their true opinion even at that point.

00:54:52.300 And after second reading, it goes to the Justice Committee, which is 12 members, 12 MPs.

00:54:58.100 Hundreds and hundreds of briefs were sent into this Justice Committee, they couldn't

00:55:02.920 even be bothered to read them.

00:55:05.440 The NDP member, who is Randall Garrison, who's from Vancouver Island, was given a question

00:55:12.260 about de-transitioners.

00:55:13.540 Hey, Randall, how do you explain all these young adults who are now de-transitioning?

00:55:18.840 It says in this bill that you want to pass, this bill is called Bill C-6, it's this new

00:55:22.860 bill, it's about banning conversion therapy.

00:55:26.040 it'll do is it's going to make it a criminal offense if anyone even a professional licensed

00:55:31.960 therapist is deemed to be trying to convert a child's gender identity so you get therapists

00:55:39.960 who have practices specializing in kids with gender dysphoria these people won't be able to

00:55:45.720 do this anymore because if an activist says they're trying to convert their child's gender identity

00:55:50.600 they face up to five years in prison under this new bill so anyway it says in this bill right

00:55:57.560 in the preamble it's flawed from the outset like everything with this ideology it says right in

00:56:02.280 the beginning that it is a myth that gender identity ever changes but we know that's not

00:56:08.760 true trans activists themselves tell us it's not true they tell us that gender is fluid you can be

00:56:13.320 a boy one day you can be a girl the next and we have all of these young adults who are now

00:56:18.600 de-transitioning they've been through the medical harm they've realized oh my goodness I was just

00:56:24.340 gay and you stopped me from going through puberty and you've caused irreversible damage to me for 1.00

00:56:31.540 life and they go back to being what they truly are which is female or male so they transition 0.94

00:56:39.800 then they de-transition but it says in the bill that gender identity never changes so Mr. Randall

00:56:45.780 garrison how do you explain that you know what he said nathan he called detransitioners a false

00:56:52.240 narrative yeah he knows this stuff is going on and he simply doesn't care because they are

00:57:03.080 agenda driven and they won't say one thing that can be seen to be going against the lgbtq2

00:57:12.300 i a plus plus ss whatever alphabet soup they won't say one thing

00:57:17.620 and they're cowards because thousands of children are being harmed for life 0.97

00:57:24.280 and they are just pure and utter cowards so we need to vote them out that's going to take a while 0.97

00:57:30.580 looks like trudeau's going to win again probably so so if you can't affect change through changing 0.96

00:57:39.760 your government you affect change by taking it to the street and going directly to the people

00:57:45.120 because it's up to us to protect our kids not the government so it's up to us as regular people

00:57:53.480 not the governments not corporations because they're all in on this too

00:57:57.080 it's up to us to spread this message to other parents so that they can protect their own kids

00:58:03.580 so they can teach their kids about what's going on so they can tell their kids the truth before

00:58:09.020 the lies that are taught in school get into these kids heads that's my theory well and there and

00:58:17.860 there's another kind of place i guess to jump off from in the sense that a lot of people i know are

00:58:24.600 trying to either put their kids into into the private system which in columbia unlike the

00:58:30.600 alberta saskatchewan manitoba ontario quebec and i think all the way to no not nova scotia though

00:58:38.740 Nova Scotia doesn't have a Protestant Catholic. It only has a Catholic, I think, or something weird like that, some weird allowance.

00:58:44.400 But every other province basically has a public private school board, right?

00:58:50.620 So they have a religious or parochial school system that is subsidized by the taxpayer and is essentially just another piece of the public system.

00:58:58.560 In B.C., we have an impermeable wall there due to our founding, a very paranoid orangeman, right, who were ex-Confederates building British Columbia, tried to keep the public and private, the religious and the secular sphere apart.

00:59:14.300 So in B.C., there's a little bit more of a chance maybe in our private system to keep these things out, though not entirely.

00:59:20.900 But I know that a lot of people are trying to either put their children to the private system or even homeschool them.

00:59:26.300 i i was raised in the public system myself i'm not i'm not interested in abandoning it entirely i

00:59:31.820 believe that i believe in public education but if this is the kind of thing going on in it and i my

00:59:37.660 taxes are taken off my paycheck regardless and i don't get to choose what school they go to and i

00:59:42.300 you know even if i get involved with the school board uh the consensus is already there

00:59:47.020 what what means are really left to me what do i do if i want to fight against this

00:59:52.300 Nathan, it's in the private system too. The private schools still have to follow

00:59:58.060 the provincial government's mandated curriculum. So the government doesn't provide any school

01:00:02.700 materials. They just write the curriculum, which states that you have to teach gender identity. 0.99

01:00:07.500 So I don't want to scare people too much. A lot of this depends on your teacher and your school.

01:00:16.060 Obviously, if kids are going to Christian school, they're not going to get as much of this, right?

01:00:19.340 if you end up with a woke teacher in the public system get your kid out of that class immediately

01:00:24.300 don't wait until tomorrow just go pull them out honestly because these woke teachers are dangerous

01:00:30.460 they are going to indoctrinate your children but most teachers aren't quite there so it really

01:00:35.820 depends on your teacher but having said that outside speakers get brought in there was a

01:00:42.140 school in caquitlam bc just a couple months ago where they paid this uh person named alex gino

01:00:47.980 who is a trans identified male a trans woman i prefer the term trans identified male anyway

01:00:57.260 uh this person wrote a children's book we've written a couple actually and one of these books

01:01:07.580 i've read it it's about a little boy who wants to be a girl and one day he meets this little girl

01:01:13.500 who lends him a pair of her panties and he goes into the bathroom stall and he pulls on these

01:01:20.140 panties and they're so light and airy and they feel like nothing at all and he looks down and

01:01:26.060 he sees the little hearts on the panties and he realizes finally he's who he's supposed to be 0.73

01:01:34.940 this is a this is a autogynophilic male fetishizing his own thing into a children's book

01:01:41.100 right writing about his own fetish essentially in a children's book

01:01:45.020 and then getting an award for it and then he gets paid 650 to read it to the entire school

01:01:52.860 so in that case yeah you can have a normal teacher but kids are still getting fed this stuff in te

01:01:58.620 it's kind of these gender identity lesson plans are kind of woven into everything

01:02:02.460 and it's presented as being about anti-bullying which is awesome but you can teach anti-bullying

01:02:08.300 and at the same time you can teach that biological sex is a real thing

01:02:12.180 and you can teach that gender non-conformity is a beautiful thing

01:02:15.980 because it is don't conform to your gender if you don't want to

01:02:19.700 go for it girls have short hair wear jeans 1.00

01:02:24.360 play in the mud nobody cares 0.94

01:02:27.680 be whatever you want to be but we don't

01:02:32.880 erase the existence of science

01:02:35.120 and tell you that you'll be happier by medically altering your perfectly healthy body.

01:02:42.140 Kids can't consent to these decisions.

01:02:44.460 They don't know what's up.

01:02:45.560 Most of these kids believed in Santa Claus just a couple of years before.

01:02:48.960 Some of them still might when they start on these treatments.

01:02:52.500 I'm serious.

01:02:54.480 So, yeah, it's just all, it's a disaster.

01:02:58.740 It's evil. 0.83

01:02:59.240 It's full of lies.

01:03:01.160 And we have to realize that nobody is going to change this except for us.

01:03:05.120 nobody else is going to do it it's just going to be us so that's what i'm trying to hopefully

01:03:11.760 inspire some people to do but i don't chase people i don't try to get people to come out

01:03:17.000 with me or whatever i'll post where i'm at and i'll invite people to come out but you can only

01:03:22.940 do what you can do yourself and hopefully it inspires other people to start acting and i

01:03:27.000 think it will but for now it's still usually just me out there on the screen

01:03:31.240 yeah well it all starts with one i it's very inspiring i want to be i want to be very clear

01:03:38.820 here i'm not just trying to you know butter up my guest here and the commenters and whatever else

01:03:43.060 i just i i'm genuinely inspired by the stance you've taken chris and it's it's also important

01:03:49.960 i think to understand that like again it's in our time of weak leadership politically speaking

01:03:55.160 no one no one is going to get this done but us you know no one is going to get this done but us

01:04:00.040 And I think that's been proven immensely, even through the pandemic and that sort of thing.

01:04:04.560 Perhaps something to kind of really lock into a little bit here is, again, this concept of blocking puberty.

01:04:12.300 And the reason that I want to kind of dwell on that for just a moment is I'm like even reflecting upon, you know, like I'm only 30, right?

01:04:18.760 So, I mean, I've not been an adult forever.

01:04:22.440 And I'm 31, to be precise.

01:04:24.300 And and I, you know, looking back to my own, you know, experience of puberty and that sort of thing and looking back to that of my friends and that of my peers.

01:04:33.560 And I'm sure that my beloved would have something to say about this as well.

01:04:37.780 Like being an adolescent's a tough time, but pre-adolescence and into adolescence and early adulthood, we all make mistakes.

01:04:45.140 We all do things we regret. We all have awkward phases.

01:04:48.300 We all remember, you know, like, you know, now we have social media to remind us of the terrible pictures we took.

01:04:54.300 But, you know, thankfully, I'm still a child of the 90s.

01:04:56.760 So most of those pictures still locked away in a photo album somewhere.

01:04:59.400 So they don't come up on my feet again.

01:05:01.320 But but this is something that we all wrestle with.

01:05:04.580 Like we were we were through a time of of of change in our life.

01:05:08.300 And then things finally settle back down as you kind of come into your own.

01:05:12.100 You're you're into your either very late teens or into your early 20s.

01:05:15.300 You're finally starting to kind of get your your feet out from under you.

01:05:18.540 You don't look like a you know, you don't look like a molting duck or a molting goose or whatever. 0.90

01:05:23.420 you know look totally silly anymore and and and that was just a rough time and and that's just 0.94

01:05:29.680 what it is both culturally i guess even spiritually and and internally but also physically like quite

01:05:35.140 literally physically this was a bit of a rough time and things change what are we are we just

01:05:40.840 denigrating all of that are we just trying to prevent ever having that experience and and and

01:05:46.380 that's what's being preached here they're trying to just essentially decouple that that rough

01:05:51.640 moment in our lives, a series of moments, those rougher years, and just say, no, you can be

01:05:59.200 your best self now. This is the shortcut. The reason you're feeling these ways is that you're

01:06:03.640 just in the wrong body. Here we go. We'll give you this perfectly new system, and you're going

01:06:09.540 to have perfection for the rest of your life. You're going to be perfect. You're not going to

01:06:12.520 have to worry about all this other stuff that happens usually to people at this time and age.

01:06:16.820 that's a that's a that's that's we're past that we're past it yeah we abigail schreier has spoken

01:06:23.900 about this we're having a mental girls are having a mental health crisis broadly speaking there's

01:06:31.600 a crisis of epic proportions among our young girls boys too social media every single child

01:06:43.840 from the parents that i've talked to there's been a social media component

01:06:49.580 it's always the same story it's tiktok it's tumblr it's this website called deviant art

01:06:57.560 it's youtube videos they get into this online world where there's these charismatic people

01:07:04.820 telling them that they're going to feel so much better and they're going to be so loved

01:07:09.040 and they are loved and your parents don't understand but we do this is classic grooming

01:07:16.440 and if that audio clip that i leaked from a classroom in toronto a 30-minute audio

01:07:23.740 lesson of a gender lesson given by a teacher that teacher is grooming these children 0.88

01:07:30.140 to reject their parents because parents just don't understand but all these kids are getting

01:07:37.060 it on social media and you grew up in the 90s I was a kid in the 80s we didn't have to worry about

01:07:45.220 it as much you probably had to do a little bit but I didn't at all but now the demands especially

01:07:51.920 on girls for how they look the beauty standards all of that stuff if they feel they don't match 0.99

01:07:57.180 up and if you give some of these girls that are having a tough time an out or an option to just 0.99

01:08:04.460 switch gender some of them are going to take that option if you present kids with an option 0.96

01:08:09.760 some of them are going to take that option every single time so we're presenting them with a false

01:08:17.480 option we are lying to them and telling them that there's something else they can do to feel better 0.96

01:08:22.920 and it's all a lie so we have to get this crap out of the schools because that's where it all starts 0.79

01:08:29.840 hope that made sense no no it does and and i think that another another aspect of this is that 0.94

01:08:38.180 quite frankly again again this comes from a very a particular philosophical bent right like you

01:08:43.680 know i'm kind of a tragedian in that sense i'm again from from the part of the world i'm from

01:08:49.300 the part of faith that i'm from is that like life is hard life is hard it's full of it's full of

01:08:56.140 suffering there's lots of hard things in it if we keep telling people that there's a shortcut and

01:09:00.180 now the shortcut is literally cutting out your uterus i mean people will do anything to avoid 0.94

01:09:05.460 pain people will will do all sorts of things to avoid pain maybe i'm not saying it's as simple

01:09:10.280 as that but it perhaps a piece of it is that people are being told that like this is your

01:09:15.480 golden ticket this is your way to salvation like if you do this like i promise you everything in

01:09:19.940 life will be better. Yeah, life is not fair. I've always told my kids, yep, they say that's not

01:09:27.880 fair. I say, yep, you're right. I do it lovingly. I'm not a mean dad at all. They got me wrapped

01:09:34.180 around their little finger. But yeah, you're right. It's not fair. And the sooner you learn

01:09:39.140 that life's not fair, the better, because it's not. Life isn't fair. And that's just the way

01:09:45.360 it's always going to be and the only thing you can control ultimately is yourself and how you

01:09:50.200 react to situations but social media has completely altered the fabric of our society

01:09:56.440 it's hard enough for adults to deal with it i mean look at twitter on any given night

01:10:00.680 it's like a hell site depending on how you interact on it but it's just full of negativity

01:10:06.140 and hate and for kids where it's so much more important for them to be liked

01:10:12.200 and to seek acceptance it's just the worst the best thing any parent can do right away

01:10:21.600 is to go garberate your kid's iphone because no good comes from that thing like my daughter 1.00

01:10:29.740 will only maybe do a school project something with one or two friends but there's no social

01:10:35.320 media and there's not going to be any social media and they like it that way because they know

01:10:40.640 the dangers that are on social media and you might feel like your kids just in the living room

01:10:45.840 while you're sitting on the couch playing on your own phone as a parent and your kids over

01:10:50.320 on the computer at the living room desk but they're off in another world and you have no

01:10:56.060 idea who they're talking to you think they're just watching some fun anime videos this anime

01:11:00.500 subculture is also a huge breeding ground for this trans stuff don't ask me why it just is 1.00

01:11:08.240 so yeah we gotta we never had to worry about social media in the history of mankind

01:11:13.680 and we've had to worry about it now for 10 or 15 years and it's during those 10 or 15 years

01:11:21.760 that this stuff really took off and it's a huge reason why i think in in some of that too i

01:11:29.840 remember i was you know because there's there are some people who kind of cross cross over the aisle

01:11:34.340 Right. And people both sides have read them or heard them and know them. Right. I mean, Jordan Peterson is one of those. And another one is somebody who he got close to during his his rise to fame was Jonathan Haidt, I think. And Jonathan Haidt partnered with with somebody else. I can't remember his name, but they both wrote books around this question of social media, especially as it has to do with young women and this problem of it.

01:11:58.700 So, of course, there's differences between the genders. 1.00

01:12:02.460 Men need approval from their peers on a lot of questions, particularly around competence and around the ability to make use of things or to be disciplined or to be a contributing team member to help accomplish a goal.

01:12:14.480 For women, a lot of it has to do with acceptance of self, obviously, and also their appearance. 0.99

01:12:19.980 And in the social media problem, we have, of course, women's appearances are being commented on live all the time. 0.99

01:12:28.000 right that's that's what's happening there's a constant back and forth as to what you're wearing

01:12:32.560 how you're looking how you're acting um rumors can spread very quickly bullying can happen online

01:12:39.040 do you think that that that aspect of social media is kind of feeding into some of these questions

01:12:43.440 of transition is that is that's what what's happening there is no it's a it's a part of it

01:12:49.440 for sure if if a young girl is feeling terrible about her body which a lot of them do of course

01:12:58.800 if they can bury themselves in binders and you know baggy clothes and try to disappear

01:13:09.760 which some kids do you know try to make themselves not be seen

01:13:13.440 you know that's always happened um i mentioned the word binders because we're now selling these

01:13:20.780 things called binders to these young girls which just completely flatten their breasts to make 1.00

01:13:26.280 them appear to be more like a boy because a lot of girls don't want the attention 1.00

01:13:30.000 and it's all this attention is magnified because of social media because suddenly they get into

01:13:36.060 their teens and it's all about these impossible beauty standards and all that sort of stuff with

01:13:42.700 peer pressure and so yeah and i guess girls relate to that a lot of girls relate to that

01:13:50.640 so that when another girl wants to then transition and wants to be a boy i mean they're all taught

01:13:54.940 constantly that we have to affirm this stuff in school they all relate to it and they celebrate

01:14:00.900 these girls when they want to transition their peers celebrate them and it feels good for these

01:14:09.120 kids to be celebrated they're out now they've said that they're the opposite gender and they

01:14:16.620 get completely celebrated which is another problem not because they're getting love

01:14:21.780 but now a year down the road if this child realizes that they made a mistake and they

01:14:29.060 get caught up in something now it's incredibly embarrassing for this child to say oh i was

01:14:34.800 wrong i'm not actually a boy i am a girl and they'll get made fun of and so that's just another

01:14:42.000 aspect of it is there's this social pressure to continue the transition and it's really hard for

01:14:48.880 them to get out of it so parents need to get these kids out of the environment that they're in

01:14:53.200 where they can feel safe to just explore who they are and if they want to have their dysphoria desist

01:15:00.480 you know if they want to get out of that they won't be shamed by doing so because like any cult

01:15:08.400 when you leave this cult you get hammered they disconnect from you they cut you off

01:15:16.000 the same as scientology or they're never really trans

01:15:21.440 and you were never really saved yeah and you're now a transphobe even though this person just

01:15:27.760 transitioned and now they're detransitioning and they come under a ton of hate and it's hard

01:15:33.360 enough for a grown adult to deal with that it's next to impossible for a kid to deal with that

01:15:40.000 stuff and it all just leads into this mental health crisis so again don't give your kids a phone

01:15:46.560 go outside kick a ball around with them go do some gardening go for walks go for bike rides

01:15:51.440 do stuff that humans are supposed to do we're not designed to sit on a phone seeking approval

01:15:59.100 from a whole bunch of strangers on the other side of the world it's next impossible for kids to do

01:16:04.780 it yeah without being mal affected by it certainly yeah i think something else that's interesting

01:16:10.780 there is that it's it's actually been a bit of a bit of a wrestling on my own end of i've uh if i

01:16:15.200 can get personally here for a moment it's one of the things that i did a long time ago partly

01:16:19.000 because i'm a conservative i mean there was no point being on some of these platforms that's

01:16:22.440 conservative obviously uh but but i i got off of twitter just a long time ago too because it just

01:16:27.920 seemed like to be a bit of just people screaming at each other all the time i got off there a long

01:16:32.020 time ago i'm not even on linkedin anymore i got really tired of looking at recent graduate

01:16:36.180 underneath my name i i graduated a long time ago but i had not gotten as far in a career as i might

01:16:43.060 have liked so i didn't have anything to put there so that was kind of frustrating so speaking of

01:16:46.680 approval right speaking of self-image identity and approval uh but but it's been interesting

01:16:51.500 because ever since i got into this gig here at the western standard i've been encouraged many

01:16:55.500 times to go back onto twitter and i i don't want to go back onto twitter you know i i'm not

01:17:00.620 interested in in getting into these fights that don't seem to go anywhere uh and and again it's

01:17:05.860 it's it's the kind of negativity i remember i've been i've been a columnist for years but i remember

01:17:10.040 some of the negative comments that came my way that was bad enough some of them were better

01:17:13.340 informed than others some of them had fair arguments a lot of them were just personal

01:17:18.180 attacks and so i did my best to not you know not go over those too many times because otherwise it

01:17:23.280 could get in your head and i mean i i was an adult during all of these things like i can't imagine

01:17:28.340 if i'd been an impressionable young person you know with some some dysphoria or something or

01:17:33.680 some lack of i'm not not sure of who i am or what i am which is perfectly normal for a young person

01:17:38.180 again imagine what that's like and again i i did i was 18 i guess when i when social media really

01:17:43.580 started to blow up i was 2008 um but you know the generation just behind me and now the generations

01:17:50.420 that i guess at this point there are people who are born well into the 21st century who are in

01:17:54.560 their teens and uh they they've never known anything else right yes i see them every day

01:18:01.940 when I'm out on the street and their ability to interact they don't have the ability to interact

01:18:09.560 or to have a rational calm conversation I may be old and I may be forgetting what it was like when

01:18:19.640 I was a kid but I'm pretty darn sure we were able to talk to adults and would never dream

01:18:27.380 of speaking to any adult the way that or just any human being the way that some of these young

01:18:35.280 adults who are speaking to now and it's not just kids it's young adults they don't know how to

01:18:39.020 communicate we don't know how to communicate anymore as a society in large part it's just 0.96

01:18:45.020 oh you don't have all the same views as me you're terrible and you're a monster and we've seen it in 0.69

01:18:50.460 politics we've seen the polarization of politics we've seen the left go more far left we've seen 0.97

01:18:55.900 right go further to the right and there's a whole bunch of homeless people kind of in the middle now

01:19:02.460 and we probably need another party to spring up

01:19:06.380 but uh there's nothing looking good on the horizon anywhere so what are we gonna do i'm

01:19:12.620 just gonna take it to the people you're taking it to the people by having me on the show i'm

01:19:16.300 super thankful you're helping boost this message because out on the street i can only have one

01:19:19.820 conversation at a time this is going to reach a lot more but i believe we'll get there in the end

01:19:27.180 it just it's going to take a while because this has to be a grassroots movement and people have

01:19:33.500 to get brave and it's hard to be brave when you risk losing your friends and possibly even losing

01:19:40.140 your job but it's what we have to do because there's nothing more important than our kids

01:19:47.260 they are the future uh it you know and they're in the present right now and they're being attacked

01:19:55.340 so let's let's get into that a little bit so we're here right now got some viewers on this

01:20:01.760 will be of course repeated uh as people click on it uh later uh you know we tweeted out that

01:20:08.380 sort of thing everything that we can do to make sure that people are are seeing this message so

01:20:13.360 let's let's kind of take that moment and go okay how how would somebody who has no idea where to

01:20:20.420 start with this question they've heard your message they're like okay i want to get involved

01:20:25.020 what do they do chris they first of all don't look to someone else for that answer

01:20:32.560 they look inside and they say what can i do and they figure it out because a lot of people ask

01:20:40.400 me that question well one thing you can do is i guess you can financially support me and i'm not

01:20:46.400 doing this as a i'm not trying to beg for money here but i'm going to keep doing things and i

01:20:51.220 have lots of ideas and i just can't do them all because i don't have enough funding there's all

01:20:54.480 sorts of things you can do so that's a very basic thing someone can do but ultimately like we need

01:21:01.520 a thousand people doing something on their own save your money and go do something on your own

01:21:06.560 but think about what you can do because it's different for everybody it might be that they

01:21:11.660 can just book a meeting with their mp or with their mla or they can write their mla or they

01:21:19.520 can call them they can call their principal they can have a meeting with their teacher and they

01:21:26.540 can sit down with their kid's teacher and they can say i am not okay with gender identity lessons

01:21:33.780 being given to my children and I'm going to pull my kid out of class if it's done and that has a

01:21:40.200 huge impact on that teacher because this teacher then knows that if they teach this stuff to the

01:21:47.120 kids they're going to be facing some backlash and they don't want backlash so they'll teach

01:21:54.920 it less it's really that simple if you complain to these principals of these schools the last

01:22:02.020 thing in the world a principal wants is complaints from parents it's the last thing they want to do

01:22:07.180 in the day but it's super effective and we all need to raise our voices and do this sort of thing

01:22:13.940 and we need to address it at the head of the snake you don't kill a snake by cutting off the tip of

01:22:19.200 its tail you kill it by chopping off its head and the head of this snake is now the education system

01:22:24.600 it makes no sense to argue with 35 year olds online about whatever when our school systems 0.92

01:22:30.260 are pumping out a thousand more kids ten thousand more kids every year who fervently believe in this

01:22:34.900 stuff and are transitioning because the situation is going to keep getting worse so everyone just

01:22:39.940 needs to figure out what they can do if i'm in your city please come out and stand with me

01:22:44.740 i could use it because i get attacked yes um i've been assaulted a few times there was only the one

01:22:52.740 really bad attack but i've been punched in the head before and fed my phone knocked out of my

01:22:56.900 hand several times and other stuff and when there's numbers there's safety numbers and it

01:23:02.560 depends where you go to but don't look for reasons not to do something don't sit there and say oh i

01:23:08.000 can't because it's too scary and people will say bad things to me you have to be positive and think

01:23:13.960 about what you can do because we can all do something 100 percent something that occurs to

01:23:22.240 people uh obviously of certain persuasions is is there not some way of affecting this the school

01:23:29.420 board system does does the school board have authority to do anything with that what no what

01:23:34.280 can they do i met i met with two heads of my school district i met with them for an hour and

01:23:42.180 the man totally understood and the woman started to break down in tears almost three times during

01:23:51.620 meeting they're powerless to stop it they have no control they told me go speak to the minister of

01:23:57.940 education so i went over to victoria to speak to the minister of education and he refuses to meet

01:24:02.660 with me i found their campaign headquarters because it was during our election and i walked in

01:24:07.220 and there were 10 ndp campaigners and another political candidate who won her riding

01:24:11.300 named grace lore and i started talking to grace and i talked to her for about 10 minutes and one

01:24:16.500 by one every single ndp member in the room felt quiet and they just listened as i listed off

01:24:20.740 everything that's going on with these kids primarily girls now it all starts with what

01:24:25.860 they're learning in school now we're sterilizing sterilizing these kids they're coming to 0.99

01:24:30.420 irreparable damage how even in our prison systems now i got into the women's rights issues a little 1.00

01:24:36.820 bit we're even sending rapists into women's prisons simply because they snap their fingers 1.00

01:24:42.100 and declare that they are now a woman this is happening it's happening all over the world

01:24:47.700 they're changing laws to allow this self-identification laws we have a rape shelter in 1.00

01:24:52.260 vancouver called vancouver rape relief which had funding taken away from it by the city of vancouver

01:24:58.020 why because they only allow women in their rape shelter 1.00

01:25:04.420 this is crazy stuff so anyway um the politicians aren't going to do anything because they know

01:25:14.980 exactly what's happening i told them all these things that were happening when i finally got to

01:25:18.260 the point where i mentioned to these ndp members that were even sending rapists into women's

01:25:23.940 prisons and this is obviously a safeguarding issue for women that was a step too far they 1.00

01:25:29.860 told me that i was making them feel unsafe just by speaking this truth that they had to make this a

01:25:34.900 safe space i always hear these same words they use the same words constantly safe space safe space

01:25:42.020 safe space and they kicked me out so i came back the next morning and what was their response to 0.97

01:25:46.900 learning all this truth about harm coming to children their response was to hang the transgender 1.00

01:25:55.700 flag underneath the minister of education's political poster rob fleming is his name he's

01:26:03.220 not the minister of education now he's transport or something now our minister of education is

01:26:09.060 called jennifer whiteside and she refuses to meet with me as well and they're very aware they know

01:26:16.100 exactly what's going on people are following my twitter i had breakfast one morning at the

01:26:21.300 legislature there's a restaurant you can go to and i tweeted out a few things while i was at breakfast

01:26:27.140 about how i was there and security came down

01:26:33.780 to ask me to delete something because someone in the government building was following me

01:26:39.060 along on twitter and didn't like that i'd exposed something and so armed security came down to

01:26:47.100 get me to delete something like it's just nuts but that's big brother they're watching

01:26:53.100 yeah and they're they're afraid they're afraid because they know that this is working

01:26:58.160 and they're getting a lot of heat

01:27:00.120 well i mean uh there's an open standing invitation for you to come up here to bc's

01:27:07.740 northern capital anytime and uh i i and some people would be uh i'm sure i could get a few

01:27:13.960 more of us to stand with you uh maybe bring enough sandwich signs for all of us or maybe we'll start

01:27:18.300 making t-shirts but uh perfect i mean it but ultimately this is where it is where things you

01:27:25.980 know the rubber hits the road and and ultimately i mean for those of us on a certain side of the

01:27:30.800 spectrum right if everybody put down their tools there would be no more you know unborn children 0.89

01:27:35.140 destroyed to the same point here if everybody put down their scalpels there'd be no more

01:27:40.760 you know women and children and and young men young women mutilated in this way and they just

01:27:48.060 use their conscience and object to be like no you know what i think i think that sex and gender

01:27:53.680 are connected and i believe in in our our bifurcated system and you know we have we have

01:27:59.420 we have sexual relations in order to create new children so obviously sex is pretty essential 1.00

01:28:03.320 ergo i'm not going to participate in this and that always seems to be the way i mean if if you just

01:28:09.400 put down your tools and not work for the abusive employer if you just put down your weapons and not

01:28:13.600 fight the war maybe maybe things would change but anyways um it to this question if if people do

01:28:21.380 want to support you or follow you or learn more about this as you made very clear people people

01:28:27.200 don't understand this this is the single biggest thing speaking of education there needs to be

01:28:32.520 education around this people people probably still think for the most part that it's just

01:28:36.520 kids kids wearing different clothes or growing their hair out or cutting it short or calling

01:28:42.420 themselves a different name the idea that they're being handed pharmaceuticals and being in inalterably

01:28:48.180 altered you know irrevocably altered that that is not a concept in most people's brains even

01:28:54.020 with the information i had before we started this conversation i have learned a lot from you through

01:28:58.380 the courses conversation so where can people get educated so that they can get motivated so that

01:29:03.060 they can get out there and start doing the work my website is a good primer billboard chris it's

01:29:09.260 just spoken in normal language it's not a scientific paper i have links to the studies on

01:29:13.640 there i have links to soji i get into the science of how these puberty blocking drugs work

01:29:19.040 um and that'll get people up to speed pretty quick they should follow me on twitter my twitter

01:29:26.460 handles on there that's where i do all my campaigning so i have eight or nine thousand

01:29:33.500 tweets now all on this subject because this is my sole focus i'm solely focused on this

01:29:39.260 it's single issue focus it's the only way to do it if you talk about anything else you start losing

01:29:43.980 supporters because people have different opinions but on this issue pretty much everyone agrees

01:29:48.220 and they can reach out to me.

01:29:53.060 They can email me if they want to bang some ideas back and forth

01:29:57.500 about what they want to do.

01:29:58.880 I'd be super happy to help

01:30:00.420 because I've had a few thousand conversations out on the street.

01:30:04.260 I've talked to hundreds of parents whose children have been affected

01:30:06.300 and I guess I have a pretty unique understanding of some of these things.

01:30:11.360 I'm not an expert by any means and I'm not claiming to be

01:30:14.320 but I've had a unique experience here which has given me some insight so I'm happy to help anyone

01:30:21.700 and they can always reach out to me and I'll always get back to them but ultimately this

01:30:26.120 comes down to personal responsibility do whatever you're comfortable doing and then do something a

01:30:31.060 little more and once you turn once you move out of your comfort zone your bubble gets a little

01:30:36.420 bigger I wasn't comfortable doing all this stuff I didn't want to do media and everything in the

01:30:40.260 beginning at all um but i felt like i had to so that's what i'm doing and we can all do something

01:30:49.940 it's i'm not there's nothing special about me i'm a zero i'm a nobody i'm just a guy living

01:30:54.760 on the suburbs with a couple kids who got tired of it one day and i had a couple signs made

01:31:00.520 they don't cost a lot of money and i just go out and i hang out and i have conversations

01:31:07.220 and that's all i'm doing this isn't rocket science anyone can do this no it's no it's

01:31:15.020 very straightforward and it's very effective it's still it's still it's how organizing used to work

01:31:19.960 in the world um and how you know everything from from you know the you know some of the greatest

01:31:25.180 movements that got us our freedoms and and our rights as workers and that's our thing of course

01:31:30.440 even the rights of women this is how it happened and it should also be the way that we preserve

01:31:35.680 the family and preserve the integrity of people so that, you know, they can actually, uh, live

01:31:41.480 innocent lives and live whole lives and not come to harm. Yeah. I've been speaking, I have, sorry,

01:31:49.260 go ahead. No, it's not a problem at all. Uh, yeah, no, again, Chris, thank you for being with us.

01:31:55.540 Um, and, uh, thank you so much for, for your explanations, everything here. Are there any,

01:32:00.200 uh, any kind of last thoughts you want to share with us?

01:32:05.680 You know, it might be a basic thought in a lot of parents that their kids aren't going to be affected by this.

01:32:22.720 And that's a dangerous thought to have because every parent whose child has been affected by this thought that same thing.

01:32:28.520 and so at the very least you don't have to do outreach no one's making anyone be an activist

01:32:38.100 i'm a reluctant activist but at the very least you have to get informed on what's going on

01:32:44.580 and then you have to inform your child the truth about these things because it is simply a matter

01:32:53.960 of how many times the schools are going to try to indoctrinate them not if it happens it's going to

01:33:00.680 happen for kids that are starting in kindergarten now by the time they get out of grade 12

01:33:06.280 they will be so indoctrinated they'll have had hundreds of these lessons and whatever

01:33:15.240 it's a cult and the brain is a fragile thing it's easily manipulated and once an idea gets

01:33:21.960 in these kids heads it's really hard to get it out so at the very least parents need to get informed

01:33:28.360 and they need to have these discussions with their kids and they need to tell the school

01:33:33.880 that they're not okay with their kids being taught this gender stuff because it's lies 0.87

01:33:41.160 it's not about not being inclusive and not being kind it's not about being against gender

01:33:44.440 non-conformity or anything like that they are lying to our children and kids are coming to harm

01:33:49.160 and it could very well be your child honestly because this is the same story repeating every

01:33:54.200 time so yeah like don't be an activist you don't have to do anything but you have to protect your

01:34:00.600 kids and you do that by first getting informed so that would be my final message thank you

01:34:06.360 and and i hope that people do get informed and that they visit your website again

01:34:10.680 uh billboard chris.com you can follow chris elston on twitter as well at the same handle

01:34:17.000 right billboard chris uh no it's at christophe elston christophe with a ph but just go to the

01:34:23.520 website the twitter link is there all my tweets are on the website too so you don't have to go

01:34:27.840 on twitter you can just look at my tweets and click on the link from the website and uh support

01:34:34.500 him if you can and stand in solidarity if you can if you see him uh in your neighborhood maybe go

01:34:39.360 up to him give him an encouraging word if you believe in the work he's doing and and take a

01:34:43.080 stand for a time and uh see if we can't change the world together chris thank you so much for

01:34:47.600 being with us today thanks nathan i appreciate it have a good one thank you so much we'll be having

01:34:53.320 chris back on another time i'm sure we'll get some updates from him and i'm very thankful to

01:34:58.180 have him here again thank you chris well you know there's a lot of uh a lot of pieces to this whole

01:35:08.300 thing and uh i think what kind of touches me the most is again that question of solidarity and and

01:35:15.700 the need to protect the most vulnerable i think that when we look at it when we look at it uh from

01:35:22.440 any perspective of course i'm looking at it from from mostly a religious and a traditionalist

01:35:26.500 perspective but still it the most vulnerable members of our society you know which is children

01:35:32.800 obviously. If they're being subjugated to this kind of abuse and this kind of

01:35:38.800 indoctrination about something that's so fundamental to their nature, I mean, sexuality

01:35:46.940 and the literal physical parts of your sexuality, it doesn't really get much more intimate than

01:35:53.680 that, right? That's pretty close to the chest. No pun intended, I suppose. But the point is that

01:36:01.260 if we're allowing this to happen and i mean i'm perhaps i'm just kind of bewildered here

01:36:07.220 as to how we let that happen how did we how did we allow this to happen i have some theories about

01:36:13.480 that i could shoot from the hip right now but we'll just dwell on the shock of it all that

01:36:17.720 this is happening some terrible things are happening uh and we have to do something about it

01:36:25.500 obviously we can't allow this to go on the the simplest of course answer would be if anybody

01:36:34.000 who was participating in this simply stopped i mean it's it's like anything else right like

01:36:38.940 if if everybody who was being abusive uh and being awful being evil and being power hungry

01:36:46.020 being selfish and often motivated by fear let's be clear i'm not trying to make it sound as if

01:36:50.980 people who are doing these things are somehow always you know a self-confident a villain there's

01:36:57.400 a lot of people who are actually not very self-confident and still villains because they're

01:37:01.080 afraid in that deep fear they are motivated to do terrible things but that doesn't negate the fact

01:37:07.460 that what they're doing is terrible and so i think that uh i think that deeper in all of this we have

01:37:15.940 to be honest about the fact that unless we do something about the fear unless we do something

01:37:22.380 about about this these terrible things that are happening to our children um we're obviously

01:37:28.140 headed towards a pretty steep slope and slip and we're already well down the slippery one and

01:37:33.140 we're headed towards the precipice um alt-right breakdown when i was speaking with with stewart

01:37:39.480 parker the other day again we were discussing uh my upcoming meeting with chris i was really

01:37:44.020 excited for it. I was very excited today to meet him and to speak about these very important things.

01:37:48.960 Again, I hope you support him. I hope you reach out to him and that you find a way to stand in

01:37:53.660 solidarity with him. It's very important. One of the things that Stuart was bringing up was just

01:37:58.040 that, you know, again, you know, we're seeing those old evils rise anew, right? Eugenics was 0.51

01:38:04.440 something we thought we'd done away with, but we're back. We're back, full bore. And we have

01:38:09.920 remember again not to denigrate uh those across the aisle from me but but it was a progressive

01:38:15.760 idea um eugenics the idea of somehow we could raise all boats by eliminating any leaky ones 0.98

01:38:21.520 uh to put it uh as politely as possible and that was an awful idea it was an awful idea and we we

01:38:29.040 did our best to get rid of it but we're back we're back right back to where we were and that is

01:38:35.200 that's terrifying because the thing is that even then you know there was still a human element to

01:38:40.860 it in the sense that not that it was empathetic i'm not saying that at all but it still took

01:38:44.740 human beings to do these terrible things to each other and i think that's one of the other things

01:38:49.640 that really has to be understood about the time we live in it is so disembodied i maybe that is

01:38:56.300 the real lesson of the atom bomb right if you want to go all the way back to that moment and and

01:39:00.560 what it founded which was the post-war era it didn't take blood sweat and toil to take

01:39:06.180 that final piece of the japanese empire it took the dropping of two atomic weapons i don't want 0.98

01:39:13.140 there to have been that much blood spilt on on the shores of japan either that was that was going to

01:39:18.420 be a terrible fight and the estimate on that was was well into the millions for casualties

01:39:22.360 and as it was uh probably the atom bombs were less but that's still not an argument that's

01:39:28.560 something we should entertain it's very utilitarian and ultimately it founded the era that

01:39:33.500 we're in well all the second world war did but but fundamentally that moment too where we just

01:39:39.100 we entered an inhuman space an inhuman space a space where the damage done to one another

01:39:47.100 wasn't done with our own two hands it was done not even with something connected to our own two hands

01:39:52.320 or operated by our own two hands necessarily.

01:39:54.600 It was done by something that was inherently other.

01:40:00.240 It was a thing we had created,

01:40:02.040 and that thing was capable of doing terrible things

01:40:04.600 to a fellow human being,

01:40:05.940 regardless of the justification we might use.

01:40:08.520 And I think that that's kind of the thing

01:40:10.180 that hits me now about this new question of eugenics

01:40:12.720 and the abuse that's happening of children

01:40:14.780 inside of this new phase with transgenderism. 0.68

01:40:19.920 Because those pharmaceuticals,

01:40:21.400 I mean, they're manufactured, right?

01:40:22.820 We're not just talking about scalpels and terrible, terrible things being done by hand to a child.

01:40:29.240 We're talking about this insidious thing that the child's ingesting themselves, but, you know, with their own two hands.

01:40:36.820 And this is just it.

01:40:38.720 This is the nature of kind of evil in, well, the late 20th and into the 21st century.

01:40:43.520 It's other.

01:40:46.720 It's a manifest thing that we have created as human beings.

01:40:51.000 We're using our ingenious, right?

01:40:53.600 We build these things and they're terrible, terrible things.

01:40:58.760 And we need to be careful with that.

01:41:00.420 I mean, there's also a lot of tools we build with that brain of ours.

01:41:03.620 And we appreciate some of those tools.

01:41:05.220 I'm talking to you via one of those tools right now.

01:41:07.700 We appreciate that.

01:41:09.220 But, you know, I'm on the same internet right now that will also stream you all sorts of terrible images being perpetrated against people against their will, including the innocent and including minors.

01:41:19.240 And that's just the nature of tools.

01:41:21.000 so i think the thing about chris's fight that inspires me especially actually the way that

01:41:26.540 he's going about it is that it is a very incarnational if i'm allowed to use that

01:41:30.620 language but it's a definitely anti-gnostic sort of method message he he is physically going places

01:41:36.320 with very simple messaging and engaging with people physically face to face that is rare

01:41:43.120 nowadays everything is about social media campaigns and everything is about all the

01:41:47.500 hoopla you can make out of things. It's about posters and politicians standing up and talking

01:41:52.720 about your issue or getting pundits like myself to come on site. That's not good enough. People

01:41:58.680 need to be met in the street. They need to be met in the street. And I mean, again, from a kind of

01:42:02.900 religious perspective, the church has always grown the best when it has martyrs and when it

01:42:08.420 evangelizes face to face. That's where the church gains more members, right? The blood of martyrs

01:42:14.380 the is the blood of the church and it's the fertilizer of the church it waters the ground

01:42:18.300 of the church and so the same thing here if we want things to change then we must be willing to

01:42:23.500 put our skin in the game and our and our our you know our entire bodies on the line basically

01:42:28.780 obviously chris told us he's been assaulted i knew that before he came on the show but we need to be

01:42:33.660 we need to be honest with ourselves about what we're willing to sacrifice and i and i think he's

01:42:39.020 He's a great inspiration on this camp.

01:42:41.320 And so I guess what I'm trying to message to all of you here,

01:42:44.980 try to communicate, I suppose, is that ultimately, you know,

01:42:48.980 we're not going to get there without each other's help.

01:42:53.160 We're not going to get there without each other's help.

01:42:55.200 And until we have solidarity with these things that would see the least of these

01:43:01.560 and those who are most powerless and those who are the most in need of our care

01:43:06.520 and those who are most vulnerable to harm, until we make a fundamental choice to treat

01:43:11.880 those in our charge as people we're responsible for and who will answer for if we mistreat them,

01:43:19.300 the actions of that will answer for those things. I mean, for us in a religious milieu at the end

01:43:25.140 of time, but throughout our lives, certainly. Until we make that choice, we are aiding and

01:43:31.180 abetting the abuse that's going on right and um one of the old religious concepts that i think

01:43:37.840 is useful here is that idea right of blood guilt like it is upon all of us if we if we fail to act

01:43:44.500 and so we need to think about that so how how do we how do we move forward from here well i think

01:43:51.280 chris made a made a great point of just like starting where you're at um i think today i'm

01:43:57.140 going to try and reach out to uh the local mlas that we have here uh up in the northern capital

01:44:04.400 if two of them we have we have four regional ones uh that are kind of all linked to us and

01:44:09.840 whenever the premier came up here uh she well when she was premier obviously christy clark

01:44:14.240 she would bring all four of the pals uh and kind of do uh you know it was a way of her to feed red 1.00

01:44:19.700 meat to the base and and connect with everybody so i'm going to reach out to them i'm not on the

01:44:25.480 greatest terms with at least one of them i ran against her some years ago i've really reconciled

01:44:31.840 with her tried once or twice but i my damn pride but i think that's the thing right these these 0.88

01:44:36.940 instances they put things in perspective they put things in perspective and uh i do i care about my 0.91

01:44:44.100 pride more do i care more about helping kids and that's that's kind of what's touching me about all

01:44:51.960 this i think that until until we make that that final that final commitment right the final

01:45:00.360 commitment to that ultimate sacrifice which is of course sacrifice itself and the conception of self

01:45:04.920 that that we uh we submit ourselves to whatever might come to do the right thing which is to be

01:45:11.340 not afraid and stand up against tyranny evil abuse and uh and the and the wicked things visited upon

01:45:24.140 those who are in our charge that's that is what's supposed to separate us that's what's supposed to 0.94

01:45:30.500 make us different as a human species we we have a choice we always have a choice we have free will

01:45:36.760 and we have to make a choice

01:45:38.740 and we have to choose where to stand.

01:45:40.580 One of the old phrases I always liked was

01:45:42.140 you could become unto heaven

01:45:43.160 or you could become unto hell.

01:45:44.280 There was no static,

01:45:45.520 no such thing as being in stasis.

01:45:48.360 Human beings are dynamic creatures.

01:45:50.860 And so every habit, every choice,

01:45:52.560 it adds up, right?

01:45:53.600 51 this way, 51 that way, right?

01:45:55.580 It adds up to one way or the other.

01:45:58.720 And it's not about just a perfect economy

01:46:00.480 or a perfect proportion

01:46:02.340 of what right and wrong actions you've ever done.

01:46:04.880 And that's how you sneak your way

01:46:06.080 into the pearly gates it is about a way of being and uh you can either grow to be a good strong

01:46:12.420 tree pointed in the right directions or you can be you know a gnarly willow that's that's uh clearly

01:46:18.540 twisted and uh and you know that of yourself and we both we all know that we all know that of our

01:46:23.500 virtues and habits and everything else is wrong with us so i i guess that's kind of the conclusion

01:46:29.760 that i'm coming to is that you know there are pieces of me that need to be redeemed and i mean

01:46:35.480 we all know that but but in in this instance i think the the thing is that i've avoided this

01:46:42.400 question myself many times you know i haven't really worried about this whole transgender

01:46:46.820 ideology very much mostly because i've kind of thought of as it was peripheral and that it's

01:46:51.800 not really affecting anything it's not really getting anywhere it's just or it's just a very

01:46:56.620 small vocal minority that's making you know the lives of us traditional it's kind of painful and

01:47:02.500 annoying or like they eventually creep up on us

01:47:04.660 on Twitter or something and make things problematic

01:47:06.560 or whatever. But it's not

01:47:08.760 it's not it's not actually

01:47:10.700 affecting anything real. There's no

01:47:12.660 nothing really changing out there. And that's

01:47:14.620 not true. And Chris's

01:47:16.060 witness, you know, again, if you want to use that kind of

01:47:18.600 language, Chris's witness to

01:47:20.460 me, to all of us here today

01:47:22.500 has really hit me.

01:47:25.380 It's really hit me.

01:47:26.520 We have to

01:47:27.640 do something.

01:47:30.840 We have to do something. So

01:47:32.060 Like I said, I'm going to reach out to the MLA's I have here and just let them know that I'd like them to start agitating on this question.

01:47:40.280 Likelihood of success, probably less than zero.

01:47:43.440 But, hey, we did that.

01:47:46.080 We'll try that.

01:47:47.240 We'll move forward there.

01:47:49.440 And, again, my invitation to Chris stands.

01:47:51.800 I hope that Chris does come up to Prince George and we bring him on and even in the flesh here on the spot we have here.

01:48:01.920 but also we maybe we could even do some stuff yeah we've been talking about doing field trips

01:48:06.120 with this camera and with all this stuff we've been talking about doing that so maybe we could

01:48:09.260 do some kind of pre-recording thing we do like a i don't know can we hold on look at my producer

01:48:13.860 can we hold off of youtube for referencing change my mind i don't know like i i'm not saying that

01:48:19.040 we're going to do it exactly that way and i always thought that mr crowder a native canadian let's

01:48:23.040 remember uh was a bit bombastic at times uh maybe we could do it more politely but i think that's

01:48:28.780 another thing there it's another opportunity i think that's something else we do need to do

01:48:32.380 because we do need to take this away from the ivory tower that we've built here uh on this stage

01:48:37.520 uh this sound stage we have here the the place where we do our filming and uh bring it out to

01:48:42.560 the people and bring it out to common folk and make sure that everybody uh feels like they have

01:48:51.040 participation in this process um i was saying this the other day like all this all this stuff

01:48:58.160 can kind of be propaganda right it's all propaganda in a sense right it's either propaganda the right

01:49:02.220 way or propaganda the right way or the wrong way but but you know maybe one of the ways you de

01:49:07.220 propagandize is that a word um you take it down a notch from kind of its over polished sense

01:49:15.100 and you bring it back to the people is that you do just go out on the street where the lighting

01:49:20.500 isn't perfect and the microphones pick up the background noise and people get to say what they

01:49:26.460 really think obviously we're not going to have any you know holocaust denial on the show or

01:49:30.720 swearing that's you know get away with about the s word here and you know i just said damn i don't 0.87

01:49:36.040 think i'm gonna get pulled for that one uh that's about it but outside of those two things i mean

01:49:40.620 people have a right to express themselves and this is a platform where they can do that and i mean

01:49:44.960 there's plenty of people in downtown prince george which is where we are obviously or throughout the

01:49:50.200 interior of british columbia and all the way down to vancouver you know um and victoria that i'm sure

01:49:55.000 have things to say so if we ever get the funding to put it together and you know do our own kind of

01:49:59.880 docu-series or whatever or start talking to people on the road maybe we got to outfit the

01:50:04.280 travel trailer that uh that mom and dad have i mean they're not using it for anything else

01:50:09.560 and uh and get out there on the road and start talking to british colombians and us fellow

01:50:13.160 canadians and western canadians today was actually a pretty uh sovereign sovereignist uh free day we

01:50:18.360 didn't talk much about separation or any of that um that's fine because we have to have days with

01:50:22.760 real conversations this one certainly with a real conversation it really hit me kind of square

01:50:26.760 between the eyes and uh i think i think the way that we move forward on this question

01:50:33.320 is again that solidarity offering offering something i mean again to that to use to use

01:50:40.040 again language from another time you know like the missionaries have to stay somewhere and so

01:50:45.240 if it's if it's as simple as that if it's as simple as uh you know the next time if chris

01:50:51.960 ever does come up here if nothing else right i there's a place for him to stay here where he

01:50:57.180 knows he won't be harassed right he's not going to be harassed here this is a safe space here uh

01:51:03.100 in my home that way he knows he doesn't have to worry about that expense he knows that that he

01:51:08.040 knows that then he has somebody to go and stand out with him in solidarity as well and somebody

01:51:13.780 you know i'm not saying i have all the connections of the world but i know that the the young people

01:51:17.860 that i'm a part of who are very very traditionalist in their morality and very strong in their faith

01:51:23.340 absolutely believe that this is a threat absolutely believe something must be done

01:51:27.400 when it comes to this harm being visited on on children and they they would be willing to come

01:51:33.100 out they would be willing to stand out there and and take the abuse because i mean they already do

01:51:37.380 that when it comes to questions of abortion that sort of thing we're not going to relitigate that

01:51:40.700 right now we're not going to get into that but i just mean that you know it's something that that

01:51:44.960 that I've experienced. It's something that I've seen. And, uh, and you do have to bear witness.

01:51:49.440 You have to bear witness to the truth. I mean, if we're, if we're calling ourselves religious

01:51:52.720 people and we won't bear witness to the truth, then we're not really very good religious people.

01:51:56.940 So no, it's been, uh, it's been, it's been, uh, it's been time, uh, this episode. Uh, it's, it's,

01:52:07.360 it is, it's kind of affecting me, uh, which is good. It's good. I, again, like I said,

01:52:12.080 sometimes the polish, sometimes the scene, sometimes what's going on here is it can inflate

01:52:17.060 your ego and it can make you think you're bigger than you are and make you think you're better than

01:52:21.800 you are, but you're not. And I'm just thankful to have had this time with Chris. It's definitely

01:52:29.180 shaped my mind on this question and I hope it's shaped all of yours. And I do hope that, again,

01:52:35.080 you you support him either directly if you can uh and and if not uh indirectly through you know

01:52:42.680 reach out to him find encourage him tell him tell him that what he's doing is a good thing because

01:52:48.280 i'm sure there's some really hard days out there by himself standing waiting for the next assault

01:52:54.280 to come waiting for the next person to come up to him and swear him out of the you know try to

01:52:57.960 swear him off the street and to discourage him and so encourage him offer the help you can and

01:53:04.520 then look around your own neighborhood as well and be like okay what would i do if i wanted

01:53:09.480 to change this what would i do um we're actually at a pretty busy corner here

01:53:16.920 uh where where i live and uh the fence we have faces an intersection actually where a lot of

01:53:23.640 people drive by it occurs to me that given that the fence is already half falling apart anyways and

01:53:28.760 plywood sheets are through the roof so i have to go find some spare plywood sheets

01:53:32.280 but um we could definitely paint a sign on there about you know how kids can't consent to period

01:53:38.520 blockers no question we could do that be an interesting thing to have people look at as

01:53:44.520 they drive by because this isn't the most this isn't this isn't uh an unritzy neighborhood this

01:53:49.600 is uh this is a place where uh where some pretty hoity-toity people live of a particular political 1.00

01:53:56.580 persuasion so be kind of interesting to see what they have to say uh hopefully my house doesn't

01:54:01.760 get burned down. I'll let you know if that happens. There was just one more question there

01:54:05.420 about contact as well as as well as being able to get a hold of Chris and everything else. My

01:54:11.240 producer's just pulling this up here. There's an email as well as a there's an email as well as a

01:54:20.080 phone number. We have well we have you know we can do both things. We either do a screen share

01:54:25.120 or we can do or we can just say it out loud as well or we can even put it in the comments

01:54:30.180 ourselves maybe but we'll uh rip down there there you go okay so chris at billboard chris.com okay

01:54:37.480 so very simple very straightforward and of course the phone number uh 604-512-2912 my mom always

01:54:46.700 taught me to repeat that whenever you leave a message so i'm gonna do it again 604-512-2912

01:54:53.180 So that was our that was our discussion with Chris today. I'm deeply thankful for all of your all of your help in supporting this channel. All of you are viewing us right now and we're viewing throughout our broadcast with Chris. And of course, I'm deeply thankful to Chris himself for coming on and for his bravery.

01:55:11.920 and again like the sincerity of his witness has uh has changed me you know i talked to a lot of

01:55:17.580 people in the show i do not believe everything that that they tell me you know in a sense like

01:55:21.640 i don't i don't necessarily just stand up and decide to go and do whatever it is they're doing

01:55:25.300 i just talk to them on the show that's my job here but today uh he definitely gained another

01:55:30.120 believer uh and somebody who needs to act upon uh that impetus what that's going to look like

01:55:35.720 exactly not sure but i definitely uh i definitely have been touched by it so we're gonna have to

01:55:42.260 leave it there i believe that the pipeline is on in five minutes uh so that is 12 p.m mountain time

01:55:49.900 and 11 a.m pacific again thank you for your time i'm nathan guida your host here at mountain

01:55:55.380 standard time and do support chris if you can and stay tuned for tomorrow we are going to be on at

01:56:01.600 9 a.m. Pacific, 10 a.m. Mountain, and we'll be having Stuart Parker on and perhaps some other

01:56:06.860 friends to do our weekly roundup of the news and discuss issues as they come up, both for Western

01:56:11.860 sovereignty and the West in general, but also for Canada and what our future might be. Thank you so

01:56:17.280 much for your time, and we'll see you tomorrow.

Western Standard - April 29, 2021

Mountain Standard Time - April 28, 2021

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