Western Standard - Mountain Standard Time - July 13th, 2021

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00:01:30.000 hello and good morning of course this is mountain standard time and i'm your host

00:01:48.420 nathan gita today i'm going to be talking with reed small he is one of our contributors

00:01:53.140 from british columbia and we'll be chatting about some of the upcoming obvious federal

00:01:58.840 election spending that's happening or the campaign promises that are already being made

00:02:03.240 as well as just what's going on around bc when it comes to the fires as well as well we'll see

00:02:09.400 what else is in the news in any case of course always remember to like us on facebook follow

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00:02:34.280 keep independent journalism alive and well in the free west my opening statement for this morning

00:02:41.400 dwells on the election looming obviously a federal election is looming prime minister

00:02:46.040 justin trudeau's appointment of the first indigenous governor general i prefer first

00:02:51.080 Nations or Indian myself, of course she's Inuit to be clear, was the opening volley of what promises 0.98

00:02:58.140 to be an active summer of backyard barbecues and big spending announcements. In a few short weeks,

00:03:03.780 having bought the support of the citizenry with its own money, the Liberals will ask for the

00:03:10.060 to drop from Rideau Hall. So as we all recall, basic constitutional rules, the Prime Minister

00:03:17.820 goes to the governor general who is his own appointee often depending on how far you are

00:03:23.760 into your own term and asks them to drop the writ which is to say to dissolve parliament and now the

00:03:30.840 register of parliament is cleared everybody was an mp is no longer an mp they are now just joe

00:03:35.740 citizen the bureaucracy takes over the government for the ensuing 6 8 10 20 weeks depending on how

00:03:42.220 long you wanted to have your election for and the now formerly elected members of government campaign

00:03:48.580 uh for their seat once again in all of their bureaus as it were the rotten bows their their 1.00

00:03:54.780 various uh constituencies uh which are always in canada they're very interesting you know they're

00:04:01.140 always something something to something something you know uh prince george peace river you know

00:04:06.280 uh vancouver central toronto center uh bulkley valley nichaco lakes it's always an interesting

00:04:13.080 set of geographic features usually and sometimes towns every few years rather uh well not every

00:04:21.560 few years but we we wish that our elections could be handled differently in canada we are so well

00:04:26.280 practiced at the art of lying we hardly notice anyone's words until they start telling the truth

00:04:31.160 from the cost to doing business to taxation to the population at our disposal versus the vast

00:04:35.800 resources that surround us i should say small population one might think a national strategy

00:04:41.400 would be in order but no party has produced one for decades the current liberal party as far as

00:04:46.920 i can tell really is what would have happened if all of the charisma of trudeau senior had been

00:04:54.040 combined with some of the audacity of mckenzie king uh william lyon mckenzie king uh to be clear

00:05:02.440 Uh, that's, that would be, that would be probably the simplest way to say it. I think that there is a bit of an ambition inside of the cabinet for kind of how they might reshape Canada. And I think that people pulling the strings behind Justin Trudeau, uh, are definitely, they're not, they're global minded, not Canadian, not nationalistic. They're the globalists, but they also have a vision for how they might remake Canada in their own image, but they still don't have a national strategy.

00:05:29.260 It still is. It's too urbanite. It doesn't have a clear way of developing northern Canada and non-urban parts of Canada, and it leaves urban parts of the country behind. So it's very, very liberal. It's just, and it does have a vision, but it's very much making it in its own image instead of seeing how could Canada work best for Canadians or how Canada works, what it has at its disposal.

00:05:53.880 Every few years, the party in power makes more promises and commitments on borrowed money.

00:05:58.300 And a bizarre cross-section of do-gooders, browbeaters, and dependents vote for that party, which is usually at the federal level, the liberals.

00:06:05.500 Could COVID, I think, will prove this pattern undeniably.

00:06:09.780 Both the lowest and the highest did better than the middle during the virus, and they know who to re-elect.

00:06:14.140 I think that's very clear. We can get into that in a moment.

00:06:17.560 Imagine for a moment what would happen if we disallowed such campaigning.

00:06:20.960 Before any new spending announcements were allowed, our elected leaders were forced to tour all the still unfinished projects of their last campaign.

00:06:30.060 And what if they were forced to sit silently while an actuary read out the true cost and budget overrun?

00:06:34.780 Or a shop steward talked about injuries or deaths on the job?

00:06:38.200 Or, no, if they had started a federal program, how badly that was going.

00:06:42.060 Just common citizens explaining to them how their dreams didn't materialize.

00:06:46.440 The rules could be even simpler than that.

00:06:48.680 If the Prime Minister, as well as other party leaders, were forced to tour the farthest reaches of Canada, the most downtrodden parts of cities, the places that have been left behind, former industrial towns that have been left to rot, the debates could be held in those places, or at least given primacy there.

00:07:07.040 And what if real Canadians could cross-examine their elected officials?

00:07:11.120 But the Canadian political scene is a closed loop and a predetermined narrative, as one good friend of the show often sends, that would be Stuart Parker.

00:07:18.680 The Canadian scene is captured.

00:07:20.800 Insurgent candidates are not allowed to run.

00:07:23.420 Problem MPs are dismissed.

00:07:25.140 And what's left of our cabinet either takes its orders from the boys in short pants at the Prime Minister's office

00:07:30.100 or has been intimidated into silence, even by foreign influence.

00:07:35.800 No, it's pretty bleak out there.

00:07:37.740 But we will need to improve it before too long.

00:07:40.600 Otherwise, there won't be a country or even a part of the country if you're a sovereignist to save.

00:07:45.060 so i i would say that that's uh we've got a good morning from northern alberta hello sean craig

00:07:53.560 yeah i would say that that's kind of where i sit on this question right now um there is a federal

00:08:00.220 election coming that's clear all the spending announcements are happening uh we are going to

00:08:06.100 have backyard barbecues uh at least here in bc i mean it we're basically wide open i have no idea

00:08:11.900 I genuinely have no idea

00:08:13.800 who's still obeying COVID rules

00:08:16.040 anywhere. I don't know if those people

00:08:17.980 exist. If you do,

00:08:19.920 I don't know how to help you.

00:08:22.260 When even Bonnie, Henry, and Horgan...

00:08:24.060 When Horgan and Henry, they should start their own

00:08:25.860 TV show. Actually, they did. It was called COVID.

00:08:28.240 They did their daily updates.

00:08:30.100 But someday,

00:08:31.340 when we all look back on this,

00:08:33.840 even Horgan and Henry are basically

00:08:35.900 throwing caution to the wind,

00:08:37.760 I think that's the time where you have to just kind of

00:08:39.840 lean into the government's lack of tyranny

00:08:41.820 for five minutes and and get as far as you can with it so if you are still following the

00:08:46.860 restrictions i'm not saying don't wash your hands i'm not saying lick the doorknobs i'm just saying

00:08:51.220 you know if you want to wear a mask in store go ahead please at this point don't be wearing a

00:08:57.660 mask in a car alone by yourself like we get it your virtue's been signaled or you just forgot

00:09:02.180 you had it on just take take it off you're fine you're going to be fine and please don't walk

00:09:06.280 around outside of it alone in the middle of nowhere with your mask on please don't do that

00:09:10.240 Don't give them everything.

00:09:12.660 Leave a little bit of mystery, I think,

00:09:14.140 is what grandmothers used to tell their granddaughters.

00:09:16.480 Leave a little bit of your

00:09:18.320 integrity as a citizen to

00:09:20.060 yourself. Don't give it all away for free.

00:09:22.860 But the point being that

00:09:24.420 when it comes to federal

00:09:26.160 election, here in British

00:09:28.080 Columbia, and perhaps elsewhere, when

00:09:30.060 they finally kind of open up the rest of this country,

00:09:33.300 there will be the whole

00:09:35.840 backyard barbecue thing we do in Canada.

00:09:37.540 We have a very different way of

00:09:39.580 campaigning than the states, right? Because I mean, at the federal level, one, we elect all of

00:09:44.520 our, we elect, of course, our representatives all at once. And in America, when it comes to their

00:09:50.140 two elected branches of government, well, they're one branch, they're two elected parts, the Senate's

00:09:55.560 elected in thirds, and their House of Representatives only sits for two years, it doesn't sit for four.

00:10:03.020 So every two years, it has to be reelected, which is interesting, very interesting. Whereas in our

00:10:07.740 system, of course, Parliament could actually sit for very long. It just requires that you have a

00:10:23.260 dissolution of Parliament in order to get back to an election, right? So what's interesting is that

00:10:29.980 our system is very different than the states, and our election system is very different than the

00:10:35.140 states too because you really only get a very concentrated amount of of writ period uh steven

00:10:40.740 harper pulled an 80-day election or whatever 72-day election something like that back in

00:10:45.840 20 what was that 15 yeah and that didn't work out for him uh very well but the funny thing is that

00:10:57.440 uh that when you when you think about that election and when you think about other elections

00:11:02.880 In the end, Canadians prefer a short, usually fall election.

00:11:08.020 They've heard all the spending promises through the summer.

00:11:10.180 They were half paying attention while their TV was on or off or whatever.

00:11:13.960 And finally, they cast a ballot, usually in October.

00:11:19.120 Which does me, one, better than I think the states.

00:11:21.900 I don't like that there are elections in November.

00:11:24.660 I don't know why it's in November and not a little bit earlier.

00:11:28.040 I guess the states just have better weather than we do.

00:11:30.220 So November means for them, oh, it's like late, late autumn.

00:11:33.640 And for us, it's like, no, that's winter.

00:11:35.520 Most of Canada, that's winter.

00:11:37.420 November doesn't look good.

00:11:38.600 It looks ugly.

00:11:41.020 You know, and that's why we don't do November elections.

00:11:44.580 And of course, we all remember the winter election, which I think was what, 06?

00:11:47.740 Somebody can correct me on that.

00:11:50.880 What are going to be the big issues inside of this upcoming federal election?

00:11:55.240 Oh boy, there's going to be a few of them.

00:11:57.600 uh well of course as we kind of leave covid behind uh that will very much go into the rear view i

00:12:06.240 think people will have been so talked to death on it that don't care about it anymore it's too much

00:12:13.280 that uh they're they're going to get they're just that that's going to be all but ignored which is

00:12:19.200 interesting because while i was in favor of the serb and i'll get into that in a minute the canadian

00:12:23.840 emergency response benefit to be clear i called it the curb by the way most of the time because

00:12:29.200 i'm not french canadian i'm a can i'm an english-speaking canadian so i called it curb

00:12:34.880 not serb but while we were while we were all on that whatever else i was in favor of that at the

00:12:42.240 time and still and still remain in favor of the idea in general but but that doesn't mean that

00:12:47.440 i don't know that the canadian emergency response benefit cost an egregious amount of money

00:12:53.840 and that that is something that will have to be repaid and what's how it's being repaid right now

00:13:02.400 is of course there's still high taxation in this country and for that matter the inflation that

00:13:07.100 happened through covid is is coming through the roof so that's just taxation by another form we

00:13:11.340 all know that if your dollar is worth less and your wage has gone down you know or the percentile

00:13:21.980 the percentile that they'll take off of us you know in a sales tax item or whatever else

00:13:25.880 right that percentile stays the same but it goes up right you get you get more sense on the dollar

00:13:32.380 if the price of the thing's been inflated because you take a percent of it right so

00:13:36.400 something was ten dollars and now it's twelve or fifteen dollars and you add you know to make the

00:13:41.380 numbers easy ten percent well ten percent you know ten percent of ten dollars was one dollars

00:13:47.460 That was $11 total when you paid for that item.

00:13:50.400 When it's $12, it's $1.20.

00:13:52.540 And when it's $15, it's $1.50.

00:13:54.680 Well, all of a sudden you have a bunch of tax.

00:13:57.040 You have a bunch of new tax because you took a percentage of what's happened with that cost of an item.

00:14:04.700 So inflation is a hidden tax all the time.

00:14:07.900 And of course, it also depresses wages, hurts wages, hurts their spending power, hurts spending parity inside of the various classes.

00:14:14.060 And so I think that that would be something we would talk about as Canadians if anybody gave a bleepity bleep about anything in this country that was serious when they're getting elected or when they're fighting for a campaign.

00:14:31.080 And they would actually have to admit that runaway inflation is a really bad thing.

00:14:38.660 Look at what happened to the cost of lumber in the last year.

00:14:41.460 Look at the cost of housing.

00:14:43.100 But I don't think those are going to be the issues that are brought up.

00:14:46.140 They might talk a little bit about the affordability of housing,

00:14:48.460 but that'll just be another subsidy or something to those who are already property.

00:14:54.020 It is harder to get property today, to get into property today,

00:14:57.180 than it is to continue to be in property today.

00:15:00.220 I've gone over this before on the show.

00:15:01.880 I was called a socialist some, what must be now months ago, a month or two ago,

00:15:07.540 when i said that uh you know it we shouldn't have one man own 10 houses or one landlord own 10

00:15:14.820 houses so he can have his little slum should be 10 families owning 10 pieces of property each with 0.97

00:15:19.680 an individual you know freestanding piece of property and i got called a socialist for such

00:15:24.740 a notion i remember uh for saying that i didn't know how i would influence the market to do that

00:15:29.420 but i did want the market to allow that to happen in in canada it is getting easier and easier

00:15:35.400 if you are already propertied, which is, let's be clear, you're not rich, right? Because you're

00:15:40.300 just in debt like everybody else. And that's the other thing about being rich today. Being rich

00:15:44.140 today, you know, unless you are a part of that 1% class, most rich people today, I'd say somewhere 0.94

00:15:51.280 in the range of 40 to 50% of what we call the rich today, maybe even more, are just as indebted

00:15:57.480 as everybody else. They just happen to make more money and they just have to be smarter with their

00:16:01.540 with their money when it comes to the kind of debt they can do and they hire the right accountants to

00:16:05.840 get the right write-offs to to pull it off like they're not actually any richer in an actual

00:16:12.020 numerical sense they don't have a scrooge mcduck vault full of money they don't nobody does anymore

00:16:17.680 except for jeff bezos and bill gates because nobody has cash anymore to begin with but but

00:16:23.000 further to that everybody's leveraged everybody's leveraged and that's not a good sign that's a bad

00:16:28.980 sign if everybody's leveraged and you already have record low interest rates tiny bump in the

00:16:34.340 economy could send the whole thing crashing now those are the kinds of things that ought to be

00:16:38.920 talked about this election they won't be talked about instead what we're going to talk about are

00:16:43.680 like always some big infrastructure projects so reed will be on in a few minutes talk to us about

00:16:48.540 what's going on in vancouver uh there was an announcement there not so long ago about you

00:16:53.760 know they're going to build a tunnel or something for the for the sky train and all this jazz and

00:16:59.860 um and and that's fine like i mean i like riding the sky train when i'm in the lower mainland it's

00:17:05.500 nice getting onto the sky train and just zipping around and not having to worry about driving

00:17:09.160 everywhere i've driven in the lower mainland you don't want to drive in the lower mainland it's

00:17:13.680 egregious it's not worth it don't bother i literally will get up at like three in the

00:17:20.600 morning in Prince George if I have to travel to the lower mainland I will get up at three or four

00:17:24.900 in the morning to make sure that I hit them in the middle of the day so that there's no one on

00:17:29.620 the road everybody's at work for those who still do something productive with their lives and for

00:17:34.820 that I I have to get up very early so I hit them in the middle of the day if I don't get up early

00:17:40.360 enough for that I will and I and you're in and you're trying to travel through the number one

00:17:45.380 corridor the highway one corridor anywhere you know west of abbotsford and and all the way to

00:17:52.520 the tip of vancouver between the hours of probably no no later than 7 a.m in the morning no earlier

00:18:00.040 than 9 30 in the morning almost 10 the same in the afternoon somewhere around 3 3 30 at the best

00:18:08.720 to around 6, 6.30 at the latest, maybe even 7.

00:18:13.680 You just don't want to travel during those times.

00:18:15.740 If you try to get in and out during those times,

00:18:18.240 you will be stuck in traffic.

00:18:20.260 And so all the time you made up on the highway beforehand, you're stuck.

00:18:23.120 So I'm totally okay with the idea of there being more Skytrains in Vancouver.

00:18:27.340 That I'm fine with.

00:18:28.340 I don't really want to pay for it, but I understand why they're building them.

00:18:32.940 But of course, that's what's kind of going on.

00:18:35.360 Horgan is going to take pictures with Justin Trudeau

00:18:37.800 because he wants Justin Trudeau to get re-elected

00:18:40.080 because he can rely on Justin Trudeau.

00:18:41.760 He can't rely on Jagmeet Singh.

00:18:43.580 He can't rely on Aaron O'Toole,

00:18:45.340 but he can rely on Justin Trudeau.

00:18:47.400 So Horgan and his friends are going to go take pictures

00:18:50.380 with the Liberal Party of Canada

00:18:52.040 because the Liberal Party of Canada

00:18:53.740 is the de facto ruling party of this country,

00:18:55.860 and that's who's in charge.

00:18:57.600 So they're hoping they get re-elected

00:18:59.660 because they know that that means big checks,

00:19:01.900 big, big checks for their projects,

00:19:04.940 including Site C, probably.

00:19:07.800 I'm guessing there's federal money

00:19:09.220 that'll be headed for site C

00:19:11.380 eventually.

00:19:14.640 I think

00:19:16.560 what else are we going to see in this coming election?

00:19:20.720 We're going to see

00:19:21.580 First Nations issues brought up a couple of times

00:19:23.740 especially because of the residential schools

00:19:25.660 and all that jazz, but

00:19:26.760 nothing will change.

00:19:30.320 And that's a really sad fact.

00:19:31.580 But there won't be

00:19:33.000 maybe Trudeau talk about

00:19:35.360 finding potable

00:19:37.720 water for reserves, but

00:19:39.000 I doubt it.

00:19:43.620 I doubt it. And what's kind of mind-boggling

00:19:45.740 to me, to be perfectly candid with you, is that

00:19:47.460 I've been hearing about boil water

00:19:49.240 advisories

00:19:51.320 on reserves since I was

00:19:53.880 31,

00:19:56.040 right? And I remember hearing

00:19:57.760 that. I was quite

00:19:59.320 sentient as a child.

00:20:01.400 I was pretty aware

00:20:02.820 at a young age. It was not a backdoor brag or anything.

00:20:05.820 it just was and we talked about political stuff

00:20:07.800 from a very young age my grandfather had been through the war

00:20:10.040 on the wrong side so we talked about

00:20:11.920 political stuff at a very young age and

00:20:13.460 I remember hearing about

00:20:15.340 boil water advisories etc

00:20:17.980 and warnings for reserves

00:20:19.780 it goes all the way back to the 90s

00:20:21.680 and I'm sure it goes

00:20:24.020 beyond that I'm sure somebody could tell me it goes beyond

00:20:26.040 that but I'm just sitting here going like

00:20:27.620 I'm not even that old

00:20:29.940 and it's been there for my whole life

00:20:31.520 but I'm starting to get to the point where you know

00:20:33.940 some kid who i could barely legitimately be the father of right you know if you want to you want

00:20:40.920 to be honest about it right yes was i biologically capable sure but do you really want that to be the

00:20:48.540 way you measure those things no um but like children like when i was substitute teaching

00:20:54.840 too that i would say that to kids all the time i think i'm barely old enough to be your father

00:20:57.820 barely like barely in any legitimate sense um but but you know they'd still be looking at me like

00:21:04.200 oh you're so old you've done so much you've you know you've been so many places or whatever and

00:21:07.780 i'm just sitting there looking at them like you know maybe that maybe that's not a bad perspective

00:21:12.320 when it comes to some of these political problems we have because i'm old enough to remember

00:21:18.580 boil watery advisories being here my whole life it's kind of like i remember the time before

00:21:26.560 september 11th and i can i can remember walking through airports without having to you know strip

00:21:33.680 down or or be put everything into a box or whatever else have it all scanned and i can remember i can

00:21:39.620 remember smoking in restaurants not me personally obviously i was a child but i can remember the

00:21:43.740 smell of cigarettes and restaurants um and that's just a whole other world a world that's gone it's

00:21:50.820 evaporated and i think that's the other thing that's evaporated too when it comes to to canada

00:21:55.500 is is real discussions when we have an election um what are some real issues maybe we should

00:22:04.060 throw that to the comments just while we are waiting for reed to get on he'll be here soon

00:22:07.620 but uh what what what do you what would you like discussed throughout the throughout the

00:22:14.280 election what matters to you what what's the first thing on your priority is it the debt

00:22:18.800 is it the economy is it coming out of covid is it getting back to normalcy

00:22:23.800 is it personal freedom is it personal expression what what do you think is

00:22:30.240 what do you think is the most important issue to be discussed this election what is the topic for

00:22:38.700 2021 for this election it's got a message here from pamela jones kenny uh the politicians should 0.71

00:22:44.680 be talking about china's creep across the west the development of space weapons well that's 0.95

00:22:49.160 interesting i don't know a lot about about space weapons i've got to say that they're weapons in

00:22:53.180 space uh but i can tell you that there is a treaty right that declares that space is supposed to be

00:22:59.340 disarmed and so if there if that treaty is being violated by anyone including the united states

00:23:06.700 they should be reprimanded obviously but more importantly when it comes to the question of

00:23:11.260 china's influence in canada we need to understand that china has a large part portion of our

00:23:16.380 parliament captured um our parliament is full of people that are well i'm just gonna scoot over

00:23:25.220 just an inch here there we go our parliament is full of people who are either in league with or

00:23:31.480 under under the thumb of the chinese communist party and that's because china knows that canada 0.76

00:23:38.880 is full of resources that they would like to exploit and in order to exploit those resources

00:23:42.720 they need to have control of our parliamentary

00:23:44.740 democracy. Do they have

00:23:46.620 complete control? I don't think they have complete control,

00:23:48.900 but I know for a fact that

00:23:50.600 people of the Conservative,

00:23:52.900 the Liberal, and the New Democrat Party

00:23:54.940 are all under the influence

00:23:56.820 of the Chinese regime,

00:23:58.640 one way or another. People bullied into silence,

00:24:00.980 that sort of thing. A free piece of advice

00:24:02.720 if you're an elected official watching this, never go to

00:24:04.760 China. Ever. If you do go 1.00

00:24:06.800 to China, bring your wife. And if you bring your 0.99

00:24:08.740 wife, make sure you're with your wife at all times, and they 0.90

00:24:10.720 don't get to slip you something and bring you

00:24:12.860 into a room full of

00:24:14.340 very likely underage concubines 1.00

00:24:17.160 of all genders, I guess there's many

00:24:18.780 genders nowadays, and take 0.99

00:24:20.740 pictures of you that are embarrassing.

00:24:22.680 Maybe just don't do that.

00:24:26.880 Free piece of advice.

00:24:28.740 I mean, we should never be going anywhere

00:24:30.820 for the dancing girls. Going somewhere for the dancing 0.89

00:24:32.760 girls is a lack of integrity if you're a man. 0.99

00:24:35.200 I don't know if there's an equivalent for women. 1.00

00:24:37.160 I'm sure there's dancing men somewhere.

00:24:38.940 but it's

00:24:41.140 one thing to be

00:24:42.620 one thing to indulge I suppose at a certain age

00:24:45.860 at a certain time at a certain place

00:24:47.120 still don't agree with it, I was raised against that

00:24:49.320 but I promise you that

00:24:51.680 if you are somewhere far away from home

00:24:54.120 and that temptation strikes you

00:24:55.700 and you happen to be an elected

00:24:58.080 official on somewhere in the

00:25:00.080 mainland of the

00:25:01.840 former five kingdoms

00:25:03.620 the five kingdoms under heaven

00:25:05.520 I would

00:25:07.740 strongly suggest not

00:25:10.120 giving in to that temptation, because I

00:25:12.080 promise you that that evidence will be used against

00:25:14.200 you, and you will

00:25:16.200 be intimidated into doing exactly what they tell you

00:25:18.220 to do.

00:25:21.240 That's the question

00:25:22.300 of China, but that's the other thing. China won't be discussed

00:25:24.340 this election, not even by the Conservatives.

00:25:26.200 Even the Conservatives aren't going to deal with China. 0.86

00:25:28.720 That's the sad thing.

00:25:30.480 That's sad.

00:25:33.540 What's the point

00:25:34.400 of having an election

00:25:36.380 if you can't have any real discussions.

00:25:38.300 I'm going to go to the comments again here.

00:25:39.920 We've got Sheldon Jones.

00:25:43.040 Actions are frustrating for me. 1.00

00:25:44.260 It seems the only points that get traction

00:25:46.320 are the ones that involve spending money.

00:25:49.020 I'm guessing we're coming out of COVID

00:25:50.480 with a trillion in debt.

00:25:51.600 Is there a plan other than taxation?

00:25:53.860 No, there is no plan.

00:25:55.880 There is no plan.

00:26:00.760 The plan that we have...

00:26:02.480 the plan that we have in place right now

00:26:06.580 is that there is no plan

00:26:07.680 if you talk to somebody

00:26:10.520 like Mike Stewart

00:26:11.620 or a few other people on the left

00:26:14.960 they're going to tell you that there is

00:26:16.620 no plan and the plan is basically

00:26:18.240 omnicide and they're going to go off about 0.71

00:26:20.360 climate change I'm not going to make a judgment

00:26:22.600 on that here there or anywhere I really appreciate

00:26:24.600 the contributions we have on the show and the

00:26:26.440 contributors I don't

00:26:28.540 agree with everything but I

00:26:30.540 think they have important things to say that's why we have them on the show and uh and it's very

00:26:34.140 diverse opinion and stuff you can't get anywhere else try getting that on the cvc try even getting

00:26:38.480 that on the rebel for that matter or any of our competition good luck but what i'm what i'm going

00:26:45.260 to try and draw here is that well while on the left they'll talk about this and like the the

00:26:49.100 impending climate disaster for us on the right you know whatever whatever the climate's doing

00:26:54.340 who knows but what we can tell you is that there is a man-made structure and it's called the economy

00:26:59.400 And the economy has rules. And those rules around supply, demand, and the nature of money, particularly monetary policy, they have very clear rules. And you can't, you can't, you can't go on forever dancing on the thin ice that we have built for decades now when it comes to the economy.

00:27:19.440 You can't raise a family on a service sector job

00:27:22.300 without some kind of money recycling.

00:27:24.140 And the money recycling costs more

00:27:25.660 than just paying that guy a higher wage.

00:27:27.540 I've said it before and I'll say it again.

00:27:29.240 I don't care if you're washing dishes.

00:27:31.180 I don't care if you're a logger.

00:27:32.680 I don't care if you're a CEO.

00:27:34.960 If you need a family living wage,

00:27:38.880 you need a family living wage.

00:27:40.560 And that's it.

00:27:42.520 That's how it is.

00:27:43.300 But at the same time,

00:27:45.020 the same time,

00:27:46.380 we do it.

00:27:48.500 the way that we do that is we recycle the money, which costs more than the money, right? It's worth

00:27:53.340 more, it's worth more, it costs more than, than what the money is worth. And so if you just gave

00:27:59.480 people their checks back, you imagine what $15 an hour would pay if you didn't take a third of

00:28:03.800 their check every, every tax, you know, every, every payday, every, every two weeks, you know,

00:28:09.940 you imagine what $20 a month, $20 a week, sorry, $20 a day, $20 an hour. Wow. I need to find my

00:28:15.320 proper approximation there uh what $20 an hour would be or $30 an hour would be if you weren't

00:28:19.920 taking a third of their check every two weeks it comes back to the question of taxation i'm glad

00:28:25.000 that sheldon brought it up because taxation is quite high in this country it's egregious actually

00:28:30.420 when it comes to tax when you think about it when you start putting all the math together we'd

00:28:34.160 probably pay even at the lowest end of the spectrum especially if you do smoke or indulge

00:28:38.780 in anything in order to kind of you know lessen the pain in your life which i completely sympathize

00:28:45.100 with, you're, you know, you're looking at still probably in the range of no less than

00:28:49.840 40% taxation, even at the lowest income bracket, when you really combine all the taxes, and

00:28:54.580 then the highest income bracket, you're probably into the range of 1670, right, because you

00:28:59.340 were taxed on your income, and now you're taxed on your spending, and, you know, the

00:29:02.760 transfers of property cost taxes, and cars cost, like everything costs taxes, so it's

00:29:07.640 huge, but yeah, so to Sheldon's point, we're going to be in huge debt, and our method is

00:29:14.000 that there is no plan there is no plan there's no plan for anything what to do with hyperinflation

00:29:18.140 there's no plan for anything everybody is doing the split the spinning plates thing and that comes

00:29:23.220 all the way back to what i was saying in my my opening statement there is no plan and there is

00:29:29.860 no national strategy there hasn't been a national strategy since basically dieffen baker trudeau and

00:29:36.320 pearson remade this country in their own image which is essentially what we're really rebelling

00:29:40.380 against. If you're a Sovereignist watching this show 0.97

00:29:42.280 you're essentially saying

00:29:44.080 I've had enough of

00:29:46.160 the Pierce and Trudeau

00:29:48.140 consensus. And for that matter a lot of angry

00:29:50.320 Indians like myself, people of

00:29:52.080 indigenous descent or First Nations or

00:29:54.140 Inuit or however you want to say it, treated and

00:29:56.120 non-treated, status, non-status and Métis

00:29:58.040 the point

00:30:00.160 is that if they could just get

00:30:02.060 together on that issue, you're a Sovereignist

00:30:04.140 and you can find

00:30:06.040 your way to an indigenous 0.89

00:30:08.160 rally and try and talk some

00:30:09.660 talk sense to each other,

00:30:12.060 not talk past each other,

00:30:13.760 I think there's a lot of cohesion

00:30:15.800 there because this country

00:30:17.800 is not doing well in the

00:30:19.840 kind of post-68

00:30:21.900 vision, post-67 vision

00:30:23.780 that it's had of itself, and there's only

00:30:25.700 one way forward, and that's to discard

00:30:27.660 all of that nonsense, keep Toronto Centre

00:30:29.660 where it belongs, which is in Toronto Centre,

00:30:32.000 not preaching the good word to everything

00:30:33.760 more than 20,000

00:30:36.060 people everywhere else in the country.

00:30:37.620 and to have a national strategy which puts canadians first puts our resource development

00:30:43.680 first and makes a better country or else piece of it are going to break off and they are going

00:30:48.380 to do that for themselves so that's uh that's my opening bit of ranting but we're going to go to

00:30:53.960 reed here and see what reed has to tell us about today and reed is being added to the stream hello

00:30:59.260 reed hey all right you can hear me loud and clear i can hear you perfectly all right awesome well

00:31:06.180 Let's start from the top, Reid. What is on the news docket today?

00:31:10.220 Well, I'd say the big story in B.C. is the tragic collapsing of that crane in Kelowna that left an unconfirmed amount of people dead.

00:31:20.680 RCMP says there are multiple deaths. Obviously, that's just absolutely tragic.

00:31:27.600 I would say there's not going to be that's not exactly a news issue that a lot of discourse would revolve around.

00:31:34.580 I think everyone would kind of agree that that's just tragic and that's the end of that.

00:31:39.800 I wrote a story last night that was published today.

00:31:43.380 There was a video where an arsonist also in Kelowna was caught on camera.

00:31:47.940 I think I sent it to you, actually.

00:31:49.720 I think that's probably a little more interesting to talk about because that sort of ties in with the current situation of wildfires in BC and what the cause is and so on.

00:32:03.060 So maybe we could start with that.

00:32:10.360 Yeah, for sure.

00:32:11.440 Let's hit the button here.

00:32:33.060 Thank you.

00:33:03.060 well that's not reassuring uh yeah sir i think i got a little bit of a

00:33:29.020 hear me here uh yeah it's i i can hear you now um so i'll just try and work with that delay but uh

00:33:35.580 oh where do you go

00:33:42.620 am i live right now

00:33:47.340 yeah no i'm here i'm here okay i was like suddenly i was alone on on the stream i was like what's

00:33:52.060 going on that's it you're you're in charge now you're in charge of the mountain standard time

00:33:56.380 no every now and again i i don't know what it is it's stream yard every now and again i have to

00:34:00.060 leave the uh i have to leave the studio and then come back yeah and yeah that helps sync it up i

00:34:07.740 don't know why don't ask me i'm not the producer yeah we can land someone on the moon we can send

00:34:12.620 people into space but we we can't uh we can't get a stream to work properly i don't know what to do

00:34:17.820 about it but but so there's this arsonist in kelowna yeah so he was arrested um and released uh

00:34:25.500 shortly after so he was arrested on saturday and released sunday um which a lot of people

00:34:31.260 are obviously unhappy with um but i think uh it sort of brings forth the question um you know as

00:34:38.380 wildfires spark up all across the province um what is the cause of it is it you know obviously in

00:34:46.460 this case if that spread if it wasn't put out it would have been human cause but there is a

00:34:51.900 lot of disagreements among what what the cause is whether it's climate change whether it's uh

00:34:59.260 you know just a natural process um what what are your thoughts on that what do you when you

00:35:07.660 see these wildfires popping up what do you think uh because it happens every year obviously

00:35:14.380 i think i think there's a couple of things on the one hand there's always it's always proper

00:35:18.700 and good advice to

00:35:20.720 assume negligence over

00:35:23.000 maleficence, right?

00:35:24.940 Or anybody acting out in an evil

00:35:27.260 way. Not because there isn't evil in the

00:35:29.300 world, but because the amount of coordination

00:35:31.280 it takes in order to do

00:35:33.040 a proper

00:35:35.040 evil act of all sorts of levels

00:35:36.960 is a lot. And people can be

00:35:39.300 quite lazy.

00:35:41.200 So that's negligence. A soggy

00:35:43.720 cigarette butt does a lot more

00:35:45.460 than probably even the most

00:35:47.260 a voracious arsonist,

00:35:49.760 depending on

00:35:51.300 where you are. However,

00:35:53.460 however, I have long

00:35:55.100 suspected and theorized

00:35:57.380 even on this show, that

00:35:59.180 if you wanted to destabilize a country

00:36:01.300 or you wanted to commit a terrorist act,

00:36:02.800 I mean, forest fires

00:36:04.620 are a perfect methodology. They leave

00:36:06.640 zero evidence of what you've done.

00:36:08.980 They happen all the time

00:36:10.680 naturally anyway, so who's to know

00:36:12.620 what's going on and what isn't going on?

00:36:14.420 They cause wanton destruction. They cause

00:36:16.380 billions of dollars in damage and and emergency response and everything like they're just

00:36:20.700 brilliant like they are a brilliant tool and if you were a foreign power that's attempting to kind 0.99

00:36:25.460 of you know knock about this country or this province and and bandy about a bit and kind of

00:36:31.220 and search your dominance or at least at least put them off kilter it's a brilliant strategy you

00:36:36.460 can't you can't argue with that strategy as a as a kind of shadow tactics or or uh you know non non

00:36:43.180 not you know a kind of guerrilla tactic sort of thing it's brilliant it's yeah yes some might say

00:36:49.520 it's almost as brilliant as a virus but uh yeah because i noticed like i sent you that clip of

00:36:58.020 catherine mckenna the minister of infrastructure and obviously she was she was speaking when

00:37:05.880 Trudeau was in BC late last week. And she even said, I have the quote here. She starts talking

00:37:14.200 about climate change and the dangers of climate change. And she's like, well, we've all seen what

00:37:18.260 happened to Lytton. So maybe the fire in Lytton is a direct result of climate change. Maybe,

00:37:27.300 but it seems to me that there's an obvious, it's obvious that they're trying to push that

00:37:34.660 narrative um and again i'm not i'm not going to get into the the conversation of you know

00:37:41.860 carbon emissions and how much of an impact that has on on the heating of the environment

00:37:46.300 to me that's that doesn't matter because it seems so transparent um what that like climate change

00:37:54.580 and pushing the fear of climate change seems so evidently like the next move now that covid is

00:38:01.600 dissipating into the background um and would you actually be able to play that clip uh real quick

00:38:06.880 yeah absolutely oh nope that's the producer never mind here we go press the play button

00:38:31.600 Thank you.

00:39:01.600 so i'm reading the people in the comments here saying that they can't hear the audio

00:39:25.440 do you have uh do you have a quote for us then um um read yeah i mean

00:39:31.600 I guess people can just go and look themselves.

00:39:34.480 But I mean, basically, she's saying she kind of throws this thing out there about she's

00:39:40.140 talking about transit and then she just changes the conversation to vaccinations.

00:39:43.780 And she's like, oh, well, I know we're talking about transit, but just a reminder, everybody

00:39:48.640 get your double vaccination so we can put COVID behind us.

00:39:53.240 But the truth is COVID will go behind us, she goes on to say.

00:39:56.600 and then she says um but the truth is the climate crisis is you know we still have a lot of work to

00:40:02.940 do there so it's like it almost seems like they're not even trying to hide it anymore it's just like

00:40:07.400 this is covid this virus um was was sort of a selling point in the main narrative in the media

00:40:15.200 and politicians and and now that that's going away they're sort of switching to this next thing

00:40:21.020 And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw climate lockdowns a couple of years into the future. I mean, I wouldn't. I actually would expect politicians to try and make that happen if they can.

00:40:37.080 You know, I mean, if you if you started talking about vaccine passports a year ago, people would have called you a conspiracy theorist.

00:40:44.780 And now, you know, it's quite possible. And we're actually starting to see that creep in a little bit.

00:40:50.560 How far it will go is not yet to be determined. But I mean, I just I expect the same thing to be applied to climate change.

00:40:58.880 And, and again, let's say carbon emissions are the number one cause of the world heating up. And that's, that's a real problem that we need to fix. To me, politicians and government are not the ones to do that, because it seems so obvious that all they care about is instilling, is instilling fear. As a matter of fact, I would assume that they actually want it to be a problem, if that makes sense.

00:41:28.880 I mean, a crisis always means you get crisis management people. Right. So as soon as something goes wrong, then somebody who feels like being a hero or pretending to be one can show up and start saving people. So, I mean, it's a self-perpetuating problem. I agree. And we see this in the family. We see this in individuals and groups, seeing group projects at university for that matter. You see it in a bachelor party.

00:41:52.060 like so no wonder you'd see it at the level of of a nation because all a nation is is several

00:41:57.760 small families and all the individuals within it making up its political body so i'm not i'm not

00:42:04.020 surprised that there's been this pivot i'm actually in the middle of writing a column on this point

00:42:08.400 because i'm trying to give a proper valediction to use that word a proper a proper goodbye to

00:42:13.800 covid a kind of epilogue to that whole episode in an obituary in a sense of like what was that like

00:42:19.760 From a son of privilege to a certain extent, but a son of privilege who was also dismissed due to COVID from his burgeoning career at that time.

00:42:27.920 So I became part of the underclass in that sense.

00:42:31.100 So just kind of some perspective on that.

00:42:33.640 I'm still trying to flesh that out.

00:42:36.540 But to your point, there's been a complete pivot.

00:42:40.440 And COVID has evaporated.

00:42:42.140 It's gone in a puff of smoke of the wildfires and the church fires.

00:42:45.300 And it's gone.

00:42:46.260 It's gone.

00:42:46.700 like it just and certainly here in bc i mean there's a bunch of people still wearing masks

00:42:50.300 in a bunch of different corners of the province i have no idea why or what they're doing but i mean

00:42:53.960 whatever good for you you do you like that's fine but but we don't talk about covid anymore

00:42:59.800 you know the signs are going to start peeling off the doors the the the tape that was holding

00:43:05.160 them off is going to be a weird reminder that we're going to see a mask blowing by in a parking

00:43:09.140 lot and be like what the hell is that it's like oh yeah i remember that as it just like like this

00:43:14.980 is yesterday's news and now as you just pointed out mckenna is pivoting immediately into climate 1.00

00:43:21.700 change thing so it was you know hey look wasn't that great that we got over this other crisis by

00:43:26.060 the way there's a new crisis it also starts with c and here we go uh and off you go right yeah and

00:43:33.440 it just seems to me it seems so obvious that that it's like they're not even trying to hide it and

00:43:39.420 you'll notice a lot of the time they use very like dramatic inflammatory language and i actually

00:43:44.960 believe that's intentional because they know how much that's going to irritate a lot of people,

00:43:50.320 especially when they start inserting like identity politics, which we saw with COVID.

00:43:55.200 And of course, you see Catherine McKenna, you know, later on in her in her talk, she starts

00:44:01.440 talking about how, you know, much like COVID climate change disproportionately impacts, you

00:44:06.640 know, racialized communities and this and that. And, you know, you know, maybe there's something

00:44:12.080 to that like i'm not going to dismiss that but the fact is uh it just seems very obvious to me

00:44:19.120 just reading the comment there

00:44:22.640 yeah no i i completely agree with brenda um you know so they they'll use this inflammatory

00:44:30.000 language and i i don't i think they're they're happy if if uh people become

00:44:36.880 um, divided and sort of that, uh, that polarization, um, in culture starts to,

00:44:44.620 you know, further accentuate. Um, and, uh, you know, like you said, you know, it comes down to

00:44:50.900 families, for example. I mean, I, I see it myself and, you know, I got friends that, uh, won't even

00:44:56.940 talk to each other anymore. And, you know, you know, families that's, you know, they have like

00:45:02.060 this really dramatic beef um because of a topic like climate change um or covid um and i think

00:45:10.800 that's all sort of i wouldn't say it's you know maybe it's just a byproduct but i i believe that

00:45:17.740 it's intentional um because that animosity is actually very beneficial um for for people in

00:45:25.180 power um you know it's it's like what happened down in the states um the the storming of capitol

00:45:32.600 hill on january 6 was the best thing that could have happened to the democrats um and so i i think

00:45:39.920 division um is not a byproduct of a topic like covet or climate change i think it's very intentional

00:45:46.200 i i i agree in the sense that you know if you can control the other people's narrative even their

00:45:53.580 even their opposition to the narrative then all of a sudden you have total control right it's one

00:45:57.860 thing to try and persecute or stomp out or extinguish an entire group of people uh politically

00:46:03.740 or otherwise but if you can also just have them be completely ineffective and and that way you

00:46:09.280 kind of keep them encamped there they're completely ineffective and so the real the real opposition

00:46:14.360 can never materialize because you have this already occupied space that's completely ineffective i

00:46:19.380 mean the left talks about the right doing this to them when it comes to questions of environment

00:46:22.540 they see the protests and the whiteboard you know the whiteboard brainstorming people and

00:46:28.340 the finger sandwich people and the meeting people the consultants they see that as all

00:46:31.960 an industrialized class of of rentiers that also uh do nothing but just waste time and do not

00:46:37.920 actually stop the things they're trying to stop and for us on the right it's about the same going

00:46:42.420 the other way of of you know we we on the right feel like our political voice has been completely

00:46:47.620 taken from us you know and no amount of holding a sign about you know all lives mattering including

00:46:53.620 the baby's lives the unborn baby's lives or gun rights being important or my right of religion

00:46:58.660 being important like we feel that those spaces are also occupied by people who don't seem to get very

00:47:04.120 far with those projects those have been projects for 30 years they have not moved forward uh in

00:47:09.800 that time yeah and and it really comes down to just conversation like you mentioned you know

00:47:17.220 the abortion conversation i don't think there's a more inflammatory topic than that

00:47:21.460 and you know you'll hear you'll hear people say um you know like oh how dare you be against

00:47:28.900 abortion you know it's it's a woman's right to choose and everything like that and and again 0.90

00:47:32.900 i'm not i'm not gonna pick a side in that uh debate right now but uh these people they just

00:47:40.900 make these statements without thinking about the underlying logic of their statement it's like okay

00:47:45.300 so when does when does life begin does it begin at conception does it begin in the first second

00:47:50.260 or third trimester you know because a lot of the time you like i try and apply the i guess what

00:47:55.460 you would call like the socratic method where you just ask questions so like i'll ask someone hey

00:48:00.180 um when does it become life and you know like could you abort that child you know five minutes

00:48:07.460 before it was born is it a baby then and most of the time they're appalled and they're like

00:48:11.300 well no of course of course not and it's like well where do you where do you draw that line

00:48:15.780 and what's your reasoning behind it and i'm not saying they're right or wrong i'm just saying

00:48:20.980 they haven't obviously thought through uh the discussion very well and it's it's the same thing

00:48:25.460 with you know with with covet and climate change it's like i'll hear uh katherine mckenna talking 0.99

00:48:31.780 and then she'll just throw out uh how it's well of course it's disproportionately affecting

00:48:37.060 racialized communities and immediately like my blood pressure rises a little bit and i'm like 0.72

00:48:41.700 okay like maybe maybe you are right but you can't just say that and then move on it's like this is

00:48:48.180 something we have to unpack gaslighting yeah yeah these are complex issues and you know she's no 0.83

00:48:54.100 dummy she's she's obviously a very smart person so she's aware of what she's doing um which which 0.99

00:48:59.860 is why i think that's that's uh and again it was the same thing with covet and now it's gonna

00:49:05.140 of the same method that was applied and again you'll even see later in her talk she says we

00:49:10.840 need to listen to science and scientists and then just goes on from there i mean that that

00:49:17.000 sure sounds familiar yeah yeah it does you listen to the experts i you know i think scott adams put

00:49:24.380 this very well uh and of course scott adams got completely lambasted by the left when he correctly

00:49:28.940 predicted that trump was going to win the 2016 election uh and uh and how how he was going to

00:49:35.480 win and why um and and so he got lambasted by the left abandoned by the left after being kind of

00:49:40.760 like their token funny atheistic guy a lot of not funny atheistic guys on the left nowadays but

00:49:45.980 their token funny sardonic atheistic you know i just tell it how it is just straight talking sort

00:49:52.060 a guy right from california um and of course the writer of dilbert but uh but he uh he put it well

00:49:59.500 that you know when it came to covid and that sort of thing he actually gave trump a pretty high

00:50:03.080 grade this i was watching him right at the end of 2020 kind of as he was doing the aftermath of the

00:50:07.280 election and everything else but he uh he he did this really brilliant thing where he just said

00:50:12.160 look like i mean of course you consult the experts first first you get a read from them first you ask

00:50:20.640 an engineer first about structural integrity you ask you ask your doctor first and you do you do

00:50:25.420 that first but then you have to make your own risk management plan right can you just cobble this

00:50:32.540 together can you take the cheaper option can you kind of you know just kind of work something here

00:50:39.120 and make it happen and you have the money for this right now are you gonna have to do it later

00:50:43.500 like that's that's what it is or and you just you know a cost-benefit sort of analysis right

00:50:49.320 I mean and and maybe it sounds it sounds kind of brutal maybe but it's like no like people have the

00:50:55.100 right to think about that even when it comes down to their own lives for that matter right and they

00:51:00.320 shouldn't they shouldn't take that for granted in the life of others but for their own lives they

00:51:04.140 really do have a right to think about that and what and what really makes sense like you know

00:51:08.580 either I can either die on my feet or I can barely scrape by on my hands and knees like they might

00:51:14.340 choose to try and tough it out and see what happens and see if they do get that one that

00:51:19.260 one over they can overcome that threshold and so i i think that when we're when we're talking about

00:51:24.880 this stuff it's in consulting the experts like that was the thing that really really threw me

00:51:30.340 for a loop when it came to covid it felt like the experts were wrong all the time well yeah and

00:51:39.760 again, those are the experts that they're choosing to listen to. It's like, if you're going to just

00:51:44.660 say, let's listen to the experts, it's like, all right, well, it turns out that there's a lot of

00:51:49.980 diversity in the realm of what I would consider experts. I mean, like, let's look at Kerry

00:51:55.360 Mullis, the guy, you know, the Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel laureate winning chemist who invented the

00:52:01.340 PCR test. You know, he said himself that it wasn't intended to be used as a diagnostic tool.

00:52:06.840 and you know the amount of cycles that you're spinning it at is is very important because

00:52:11.740 you know in BC I think we were spinning it at 35 cycles Ontario was 40 which maybe could explain

00:52:19.140 why you were seeing uh more infections there maybe yes maybe no but my my point is is that

00:52:25.340 you know here's an expert that's saying that the mechanism you're using to determine the amount of

00:52:31.000 positive cases and to determine the amount of deaths is not intended to be used as a diagnostic

00:52:38.720 tool, especially when you're spinning it at such a high threshold. So why, why aren't we listening

00:52:44.680 to him, you know, because it doesn't, it doesn't fit in with, with the narrative. And that was,

00:52:52.800 you know, we're, we're kind of digressing back to COVID here, but that was, that, that really

00:52:58.860 rubbed me the wrong way when you when you look at all these you know death with covid you know

00:53:03.660 262 more deaths from covid it's like no that just means that they tested positive with a mechanism

00:53:10.960 that's being that has no business being used as a diagnostic tool i mean he said himself you spin

00:53:18.200 this thing high enough you'll find anything and it doesn't differentiate between whether it's

00:53:22.520 inactive or active viral dna you know it could just be dead viral dna from four weeks ago um

00:53:29.620 so yeah again no one no one's talking about this of course or very few people of course not but

00:53:36.420 this is so so what's gone wrong here and i mean it's funny that we're getting into this i'm not

00:53:40.980 i'm not sure it's always fun to get to know people on this count read because i mean you and i you

00:53:46.940 and i aren't super familiar with each other but obviously we have some philosophical leanings

00:53:51.360 that are very very closely attuned and we both have have investigative minds around the stuff

00:53:55.560 and we're not just going to go with the narrative and you know bow ourselves off the cliff edge with

00:54:00.940 the rest of the sheep this is that would be silly but but at the same time it's it's the question

00:54:06.740 becomes very quickly you know if if this was the case you know and and the case was that we the

00:54:14.100 test wasn't reliable why couldn't someone just come out and admit that that's the thing that

00:54:19.440 bothers me like i i'm trying to think of the things i've tried to get away with in my life

00:54:23.240 and every now and again i've gotten you know i've gotten a white lie here there and everywhere and

00:54:26.980 everybody's fibbed you know their way through something whether it's with their significant

00:54:29.880 other or you know their local priest or whatever like we've all done this well you know and maybe

00:54:35.040 we didn't claim you know didn't say exactly what a car was worth when we transferred it to a friend

00:54:39.560 and they saved 200 bucks in tax like okay fine everyone puts their thumb on the scale or takes

00:54:44.300 it off the scale for that matter uh but but when you're gonna straight up just tell us from all

00:54:49.060 your expertise and all your post nominals that you are you're uh you're completely right about

00:54:56.480 this test and people can literally see the evidence that this test doesn't work what at what

00:55:02.220 point does someone just say no dude like the emperor has no clothes like you gotta you've

00:55:06.400 gotta tell the truth about it you can't you can't keep lying about it everybody knows

00:55:10.000 yeah yeah and and and the reason that they that they don't is because they know that they don't

00:55:17.200 have to they just pump that narrative out there in a very dramatic way and a large percentage of

00:55:23.920 the population will just unconditionally listen to that and demand that everybody else

00:55:30.900 basically appeal to their fear it's like you know if it's like you if you go into you know you go

00:55:41.800 into a store just one person you know is terrified of covid they'll demand that everybody puts a

00:55:47.180 face covering on um so and again it's it's like when you know like i said before with with climate

00:55:54.480 change how um uh catherine was like uh catherine mckenna was like oh yeah it it it it disproportionately 1.00

00:56:03.340 affects you know racialized or communities you know it's the like we saw with covid people are

00:56:08.420 saying it disproportionately affects um you know black people um and it's like well maybe we should 0.97

00:56:14.640 think about the fact that you know people with darker skin absorb less vitamin d and you know

00:56:21.120 there's been some studies that come out that directly correlate like your the level of vitamin

00:56:25.440 d you have in your system with um the severity of of symptoms when it comes to covid maybe maybe

00:56:32.400 we can dismiss that after it's quite possible that that that's the case but we need to talk

00:56:37.280 about it first we need to have that conversation and then dismiss it but it's like you even bring

00:56:42.000 that up um you know it was like the wage gap conversation back in the day it was like oh

00:56:47.520 um there's you know less women represented in uh xyz it's like well yes maybe maybe there's reason 0.67

00:56:55.520 for that i mean i mean i certainly wouldn't want to go work at an oil rig where i come back a month

00:57:01.680 later and i might be missing a finger uh you know you like it's like and then you bring in the whole

00:57:08.400 the pregnancy thing and and uh you know that they can't work for nine months or or longer so there's

00:57:14.880 no it's all just dramatic inflammatory statements like covid disproportionately affects black people

00:57:22.320 climate change disproportionately affects uh you know indigenous people and minorities um you know

00:57:29.600 uh there's not enough women represented in the workforce you know therefore um it's because 1.00

00:57:36.400 society is structured in a way that keeps those people down as opposed to maybe a maybe it's

00:57:44.600 partially that maybe there's a more rational explanation but of course um there's there

00:57:51.760 there's no there's no real uh conversation and there isn't a real conversation but the reason

00:57:58.680 that there isn't a real conversation is not only becoming more and more literate and we are we're

00:58:03.000 becoming more and more literate um we're coming we're going back to using you know emojis and

00:58:07.720 everything else which means we're going back to pictograms really is what that means we're going

00:58:11.640 away from from phonetic language and the nuances of illusion and metaphor back to cartoons being

00:58:18.940 used as language which i mean has its place to a point but but there we are uh but the other side

00:58:24.800 of the reason we can't have these conversations people think it has to do with education that

00:58:29.000 sort of thing we're more educated than we've ever been so that can't be true i think that it has to

00:58:33.360 do with with a fundamental misconception about the world by by much of the leadership to be clear

00:58:40.400 which is that they are correct or they have the truth they have the orthodox truth the holy the

00:58:45.800 holy writ of truth and that that isn't up for debate and so everything is about conformity it

00:58:50.940 isn't about lively debate within a political party it's not about a lively debate within within your

00:58:55.760 political structures people who are problem mps are tossed out people who speak back against the

00:59:00.820 leader are tossed out people who seek nomination races uh and are trying to get elected they they

00:59:06.960 if they have any kind of insurgent qualities they are tossed out and given no reason so so we can't

00:59:13.900 have real conversations anymore because we're building a world where real conversations don't

00:59:19.320 exist uh we have conversations about conversations i think my one of my contributors stuart parker

00:59:25.140 puts it that way. So it's about tone, tone police. It's all about, it's about the tone of the

00:59:30.800 conversation, not the conversation itself. Yeah, no, I really enjoy listening to Stuart

00:59:37.180 and Aaron Ekman as well. But yeah, I remember Stuart was, he was talking about how, you know,

00:59:42.500 political parties, they look into your past and they want to make sure that you didn't stand up

00:59:46.540 to a superior or anything like that. They don't want any qualities that show you're willing to

00:59:52.080 sort of uh be the nail that sticks up you know um but uh yeah no and again it's and and that's why

01:00:02.160 it that's why identity politics is so effective because it's such an easy way to dismiss people

01:00:07.860 that stand up it's like for me having my perspectives people can just say well you're

01:00:12.260 a cisgender white male um therefore you know you can't speak outside of this box so instead of

01:00:19.360 actually critiquing and picking apart sort of the logic of what I'm saying and really trying

01:00:31.080 to understand it and dismantle it. They just say, oh, well, you know, you belong to this group.

01:00:37.880 Therefore, you really have no way of knowing and you don't get to speak on the matter.

01:00:44.020 So it's really effective. Identity politics makes, you know, perfect sense if you're trying

01:00:49.060 to uh crush dissent and of course people can be split into multiple identities so you can usually

01:00:55.980 find some axis along uh which someone would belong to what they would consider the you know the

01:01:03.460 oppressor class to use a marxist term um you know it doesn't matter like if you if you're a black

01:01:10.120 man you're you're still a man um and uh you know maybe you're straight and you know so it's like

01:01:17.640 there's always going to be some thing it's like you know straights uh male white um you know 0.85

01:01:25.580 wealth um there's always some axis along which you can apply someone to uh the oppressor class

01:01:34.240 which is also the same tactic that was used uh in the red terror in in the soviet union um you know

01:01:40.520 And it was it was very easy to, you know, maybe it was, you know, there was no clear line between the bourgeoisie and the proletariats.

01:01:51.460 And you can you can sort of pick and choose to fit your narrative, which is why I think it was such a corrupt ideology.

01:02:00.560 So, yeah.

01:02:02.040 no i i think the other thing that's gone wrong too and and this is something i mean i'm i'm i'm a

01:02:08.140 social conservative for many reasons but i'm also i'm you know very traditionalist i was raised

01:02:13.340 protestant i became roman catholic uh in my 20s while i was attending attending trinity western

01:02:18.800 in langley down there and so for me one of the things that's important to me is to kind of see

01:02:24.960 the the map in people's minds the paradigm shifts that have happened over the years and one of the

01:02:29.900 things that i think we've come to is it only and it only took in my opinion another 500 years

01:02:33.820 the argument of the reformation was that you know selling indulgences and all this had to stop

01:02:39.540 because you can't do that you had to actually have a sincere commitment to you know our savior and

01:02:44.960 therefore you could be saved and that was by his grace alone it wasn't by anything you could do on

01:02:49.260 your part and and this kind of democratized the faith to a certain extent i disagree with other

01:02:53.660 elements of the reformation but i understand what their central premise was and i understand why

01:02:57.280 they were angry but 500 years later we live in another theocracy where you know supposedly

01:03:03.020 climate credits are going to save the planet so instead of paying for some indulgences of

01:03:08.380 the souls in purgatory you are now paying climate credits you're now paying a climate tax

01:03:13.060 and the experts who are our high priests and theologians of our time explain to us that

01:03:18.580 it's a great mystery and we will never understand it ourselves but trust us this is how things go

01:03:23.740 And this was the other thing with COVID. COVID was indeed a technocratic theocracy. It was a religion. The edicts of it changed all the time. They had to be followed immediately. We might as well have been in Iran. If people have to walk on their hands in Iran tomorrow, they really will try. Certainly in North Korea, they'll give it a go. 0.78

01:03:41.900 And in Canada, out of nowhere, after a long legacy of freedom, we have our French-speaking part, which I have a great deal of respect for in its own right and its French culture.

01:03:53.080 We are also an English-speaking nation with English-speaking liberties.

01:03:56.480 English-speaking peoples have liberties that go back 800 years plus.

01:03:59.820 and and yet we gave up all of our ordered liberty in about 15 minutes thanks to a virus that had

01:04:07.220 the lethality rate of of far less than what everybody had had told us it would and and it

01:04:13.940 was gone it was gone and people wouldn't stand up for themselves they're still not standing up for

01:04:17.720 themselves they've been released back into the wild they can wear a mask or not wear a mask or

01:04:21.300 whatever but they but to this day nobody people are still acting as if that was perfectly normal

01:04:26.600 and it all made sense and there was nothing to worry about and and that's just it like we live

01:04:31.620 we live in this time where we have kind of a it is very much like a theocracy this this this this

01:04:38.580 divine reality above us that that cannot be interpreted by the little people at all and the

01:04:43.680 experts the high priests they put they put things forward than unelected unelected always civil

01:04:48.700 servants and and experts and scientists and doctors and they they tell us how we have to live and then

01:04:54.380 our politicians conform in order and show virtue with their virtue signaling and their and all

01:04:59.640 their gaslighting to to earn their salvation in front of everybody else and that seems to be where

01:05:04.800 we're at yeah and again people uh people love to criticize religion and fair enough i just think

01:05:12.400 that they're focusing on the wrong thing the the problem isn't religion it's it's dogma you know

01:05:18.820 And dogma has the potential to overtake anything, whether it's a religion or a scientific field, anything, you know, anything like that.

01:05:33.140 So, you know, it really has become it really did become a religion.

01:05:37.600 And as far as climate change goes, I can just imagine the Canadian politicians are licking their lips right now at what they're going to do with climate change after, you know, the last year and a half regarding COVID.

01:05:52.500 So, yeah, we'll see.

01:05:55.020 Yeah, and I think that's just it.

01:05:56.960 It showed so much power.

01:05:58.600 I think maybe one point to kind of break back to here is the point that you were raising earlier about it being very divisive.

01:06:05.780 I in my previous life that is to say a few minutes ago when I was still writing for the local paper

01:06:12.640 here in in Prince George I after the January 6th riot as my as I was their token pro-Trump guy I

01:06:19.380 was dismissed without without any without any explanation really they just said it needed to

01:06:25.500 be a parting of ways and I had run into a bit of censorship at the very end of 2020 it was

01:06:30.220 interesting my editor had always been a kind of left-leaning civil libertarian and I had a lot

01:06:35.280 respect for him I still have respect for him but I just it seemed like I guess from higher ups he

01:06:39.680 had gotten some pressure and quite frankly it just we had lost editorial continuity between the two

01:06:45.920 of us and uh we were also divided by what had happened both in the states and throughout the

01:06:50.800 world with COVID but but the one of the points I got to raise as I as I was in my last few days

01:06:56.740 there uh was was that COVID really was the great winnowing fork it was the biblical winnowing fork

01:07:03.500 that that's talked about uh i was up north in churchill manitoba i got to experience the last

01:07:09.140 covid free summer um what we're just experiencing now in some quarters of bc was my summer in

01:07:15.920 churchill manitoba there were no masks at the bar we didn't worry about any of this stuff most of

01:07:20.760 that news sounded like a war far far away far away from us none of it really mattered if you had to

01:07:25.780 go to the hospital up there the little emerge hospital thing they have everybody who entered

01:07:30.340 had to take the test i never got sick i never had any problems so i never bothered taking the test

01:07:34.680 but yes they tested everyone they never had a positive test come out of churchill manitoba

01:07:39.140 and to this i have no idea if they have any record of cases when i wrote that after being

01:07:43.420 gone for a month beginning december was when i wrote that column they still had zero recorded

01:07:48.780 cases in churchill and it's a hub it has a lot of people come through it because that's the gateway

01:07:53.260 to the north but the point is that as i as i kind of was writing it i'm like look people had lived

01:07:59.660 up here in a northern town kind of the very edge of of of canada as we know contiguous canada the

01:08:07.180 10 provinces together and then the rest of the great white north and everything else that goes

01:08:11.460 on up there that's just a totally other world this is the border this is the edge this is the

01:08:15.660 last stop literally before the hudson's bay on the rail line so this is the this is the edge of the

01:08:21.360 the contiguous canada that we know and in that little community people had you know gone through

01:08:28.320 afghanistan they had gone through you know the various movements of the 60s they had gone through

01:08:33.920 uh you know the changes that had been brought by the 80s and the the poor doing well the poor doing

01:08:39.020 badly there were many things that had struck that community and it couldn't divide it and then

01:08:43.760 covet hit and that that had people at each other and like they finally found the magical formula

01:08:51.340 to have people at each other i'm not saying there were street fights but like there were there were

01:08:55.520 there you know there were some there was some there was some moments of of of people costing

01:09:00.480 each other in the store and and it just this is they finally found it they found the magical tool

01:09:06.640 to finally divide a community that otherwise yes they didn't all vote the same way politically yes

01:09:10.520 they went to different churches yes they were different colors and different creeds and all

01:09:13.960 sorts of things there's there there's there's actually a you know lgbtq community up there

01:09:18.840 as well and some very straight-laced people up there as well and they all managed to coexist

01:09:23.180 but it was COVID. It was COVID that drove a wedge in there and managed to leave people pretty bitter

01:09:28.320 and divided. Absolutely. I mean, you know, the most, I've seen some of the most tight-knit of

01:09:33.420 circles become divided over that subject. I mean, there's people I know personally,

01:09:42.140 whether friends or in my extended family, it's just kind of like now it's a known thing that

01:09:46.980 we just don't talk about COVID. It's like, and again, that's, you know, at least I don't think

01:09:52.300 that's me that's bringing that down. I mean, I'm someone who likes to have conversations and I

01:09:56.780 take pride in my ability to be emotionally detached during conversation. And I'm willing

01:10:03.220 to admit that I'm most likely wrong about a lot of the things I say. Again, I'm not married to

01:10:11.280 any of my ideas. So I think it's an important thing to talk about, but people have just gotten

01:10:15.360 so emotional. And it's a result of fear. And this comes back to the powers that be. They know if

01:10:22.080 They can make people afraid.

01:10:24.780 They can have their way with them.

01:10:26.480 And that's a tale as old as time.

01:10:30.300 Absolutely, it is.

01:10:31.560 Absolutely, it is.

01:10:32.740 Well, Reid, I'm very thankful for your contributions here today.

01:10:36.940 And do come back again soon.

01:10:39.300 We'd be happy to have you on every Tuesday.

01:10:40.740 I know that might not be practical, but do come back as frequently as you can

01:10:44.800 so that you can bring us up to speed on what's happening in the wider world

01:10:47.820 and share your thoughts with us.

01:10:49.400 They're always valuable.

01:10:50.860 Well, absolutely.

01:10:51.360 And I just want to say real quick, my criticisms earlier of, you know, Marxist ideology and sort of drawing those parallels to, you know, identity politics that we're seeing right now, I realize that I've heard Aaron Ekman talk about it in the past, and he doesn't quite agree with that parallel.

01:11:08.580 So I'd be curious to to jump on with him sometime. And and I feel like he would he might be able to really kind of break that down for me and potentially expose some of the flaws in my thinking.

01:11:22.280 But, yeah, no, thanks for having me. Thanks to everybody that's listening. I look forward to talking to you again soon.

01:11:28.780 Of course, Reid. Absolutely. All right. Thanks.

01:11:31.460 thank you

01:11:32.480 but I think that the

01:11:35.740 thing that needs to be understood

01:11:38.060 in all this is again

01:11:40.160 it comes back to power and I think Reid's right

01:11:42.120 the question of fear

01:11:43.480 Sheldon's going to give me a rating on my hair

01:11:46.300 I just know it

01:11:47.080 it comes back to fear he's not wrong about that

01:11:50.480 but it also comes back to power

01:11:51.880 and the problem

01:11:53.760 becomes very quickly like if you don't know what you're doing

01:11:56.500 and you're scared of the fact that you don't know what you're doing

01:11:58.480 and that you're in charge you can act quite tyrannical

01:12:00.840 quite quickly which is this is not a controversial statement right like i mean probably some of the

01:12:07.800 some of the most uh terrifying moments for anybody are when you are suddenly in charge of something

01:12:15.040 and you feel completely out of your depth or suddenly suddenly responsible we should say

01:12:18.660 responsible for something and completely out of your depth um or or the uh it's yeah no and

01:12:25.340 sheldon's not wrong it is unruly today i did everything i could without product i never used

01:12:29.840 product in my air but uh seven out of ten um it is unruly today i don't know what to do with it

01:12:36.160 i think i'll throw some more water in it after the show's over the point being though that that

01:12:40.580 speaking of control um control is a big deal control is a big deal and uh without with when

01:12:51.840 when you are given responsibility out of nowhere uh and you you don't know how to handle it you

01:12:58.800 have to make some very very intelligent choices in that moment i think the biggest thing that you

01:13:02.880 have to make is is an act of humility and just say look like you got to give yourself the grace

01:13:08.680 to be a beginner and that yep no things might be bad right now we're in the middle of the

01:13:13.080 firefight we're in the middle of a disaster we just lost our commanding officer we're just lost

01:13:17.100 we just dad just walked out the front door i you know you're you know we we don't have our senior

01:13:23.420 executive anymore we can't get into contact with the point person for this project you are now in

01:13:28.420 charge i think you have to just start with honestly admitting that you have no idea what

01:13:35.220 you're doing and that this is a bit of a panic and you're not going to figure it all out in one day

01:13:40.280 you're going to need you're going to need to defer to the expertise around you and and take in their

01:13:47.940 ideas be humble and when you listen and then come back with okay well out of the options you're

01:13:54.380 giving me, this makes the most sense, as far as I can tell. And you live with that decision.

01:14:00.320 And certainly, the other thing that needs to be noted is that for most of us,

01:14:04.860 we didn't earn our talents. It came from somewhere else. For those of us who are social

01:14:13.980 conserved and religious, it came from above. For those of us who aren't, we must admit that

01:14:18.740 there are different strokes for different folks, and certainly not every single aptitude a person

01:14:23.640 has is something that they've honed and harnessed it is something that was innate in them and then

01:14:29.520 grace builds on nature to use that old catholic term phrase your practice practice makes perfect

01:14:34.700 but what you have to work with it has to be there and if it's not there i'm never going to be wayne

01:14:39.240 gretzky i can barely skate but wayne gretzky i don't know if he even has a podcast or something

01:14:43.960 maybe he does but you know i can talk all day by myself if i have to into this camera i don't know

01:14:48.920 if Wayne could do that. So this is the question, right? And we have aptitudes and we build on

01:14:57.760 those aptitudes and we have to harness our talents as best we can and then hopefully make a living

01:15:01.200 from them or leave them to our hobbies and go make a living doing something else, which we

01:15:06.980 hopefully don't hate too much. But power, power and fear, they're a dangerous combination because

01:15:12.760 I think for a lot of our politicians, I think they're just as scared as we are. I think they're

01:15:16.480 scared of us as we are of them and they but they feel a responsibility to rule us which is their

01:15:22.300 responsibility they are supposed to rule us that's why we elected them but they just have no clue

01:15:28.920 where to start they know a clue what to do they're there's somebody who's who's they're a parent with

01:15:35.680 no training and no modeling for how to properly rule or maybe even worse they have only abusive

01:15:41.680 modeling for how to rule. And we have to try and help them course correct. I don't think we're

01:15:47.100 ever not going to have a ruling class. I don't think we're ever not going to have elites in

01:15:50.860 charge. But I've always believed that what we can do is convict their consciences and help their

01:15:57.040 conscience be formed in such a way that no, they want to have a kingdom of conscience, they want

01:16:01.580 to have a country of conscience, and they don't want to just be tyrannical. I really believe that

01:16:06.280 that's achievable but that requires forming one's conscience and to form one's conscience

01:16:11.560 requires ethics that go a little bit beyond what hr might be telling you just a little bit so we'll

01:16:19.060 get into that another time um we're gonna break into some of the stuff that was sent to me by my

01:16:23.720 producer i uh apologize things are a little bit disorganized this uh you know this this morning

01:16:31.020 we've got a good comment here from Sheldon

01:16:37.020 human beings are born with different capacities

01:16:39.580 if they are free

01:16:40.960 they are not equal 0.69

01:16:43.320 if they are equal they are not free

01:16:44.660 yep that's fair

01:16:45.560 and I've got a correction here

01:16:50.980 from Suzanne Delane

01:16:52.160 resistance becomes

01:16:54.380 yeah that classic line

01:16:55.560 they were elected to govern not rule

01:16:57.800 they are not rulers they are public servants

01:17:00.500 um yeah maybe i'm using those words too interchangeably but i guess i also shy away

01:17:08.340 from the word govern a little bit because i also as always taught you know like management management's

01:17:12.560 a dirty word in my family right because they're all professionals they all work in you know what

01:17:17.220 would be called a professional class for sure but they don't like to be identified with the

01:17:21.060 managerial class and the reason for that is that they have clinical experience all the people in

01:17:26.320 my on my father's side of the family they are and on my mother's side of the tradesman too so

01:17:30.800 they're not managers either they don't manage other people who might be better experts than

01:17:34.940 them they are the experts they are they are professionals people with their trade or with

01:17:40.260 their professional designation are are hard workers who know what they're doing because

01:17:44.720 of experience because they get their hands dirty and so in a sense i guess when i say ruler i'm

01:17:50.440 thinking in a more monarchical sense because i am a monarchist and it's like no like i mean it's

01:17:55.780 your birthright to rule. That's what it is. But you are supposed to do that with good conscience.

01:18:03.700 You're not supposed to do it incompetently. You're supposed to do it with humility and you're

01:18:06.300 supposed to love the people that you are in charge of. And you will answer for that at the end of

01:18:11.080 time. You'll answer for that to God himself. And so the idea of governing, I'm not saying that

01:18:15.220 governance has no place, but a governor is still detached in the sense that he's not ultimately

01:18:20.760 responsible he's just managing the affairs of state he's not the state he's managing the affairs

01:18:26.180 of state i think louis which one was it was at the 13th or 16th or whatever i think he wasn't

01:18:30.920 quite wrong when he said i am the state but he needed to say that with a good conscience which

01:18:35.780 was if i am france and i must rule france as i would rule myself which is with good conscience

01:18:42.620 with virtue and properly and healthily and to make sure that you know the worst parts of me

01:18:48.780 are made better, and the best parts of me are shared by all, right? That's kind of my point.

01:18:58.740 But that's kind of my over-idealistic way of looking at things. Again, I'm a monarchist,

01:19:05.020 Catholic monarchist, a traditionalist Catholic monarchist, so take that where you will.

01:19:10.900 I'm going to go in the private chat here. We have a couple of items that were sent to me by

01:19:15.720 our dear producer who always

01:19:18.300 looks after me very well

01:19:19.740 so he's there in the background on the show

01:19:22.280 helping me out making sure things go where they're

01:19:24.340 supposed to go and I'll close the rest of this stuff

01:19:26.460 so I don't get it confused

01:19:27.960 got a green leader

01:19:31.860 green party moves

01:19:33.700 green alright well we're going to rant about

01:19:36.420 the green party okay which is interesting

01:19:38.600 because we don't have by the way

01:19:40.480 we don't have Stuart on this week Stuart

01:19:42.260 is in a plane

01:19:43.900 he's in a plane

01:19:46.540 off somewhere else later this week

01:19:48.720 so he is not able to come on the show

01:19:50.900 so just as an FYI

01:19:52.700 there will be no Stuart Parker this week

01:19:54.860 which is really too bad I really enjoy

01:19:56.500 me and Stuart's time

01:19:58.520 this is

01:20:00.980 not happy

01:20:02.460 let's see

01:20:06.980 here we go

01:20:07.980 we had to go to

01:20:10.920 a different screen because they wanted me to sign

01:20:12.780 into something that I don't have a subscription to.

01:20:15.780 Hold on.

01:20:16.600 Here we go.

01:20:17.600 Share.

01:20:22.900 Green leader Anna May Paul

01:20:24.480 muted in virtual meetings

01:20:27.180 as she argued against sweeping cuts to party staff.

01:20:29.740 Okay, so the war is continuing.

01:20:32.400 Let's see here.

01:20:33.940 Oop, nope.

01:20:35.560 That's not going to work either.

01:20:37.060 I'm going to have to go to a different one.

01:20:38.340 There we go.

01:20:39.540 Green party moves to block funding

01:20:40.960 for leader anime paul writing campaign green party executives have moved to withhold funding

01:20:50.560 sorry i'm not sharing my screen am i hold on there's only one that would come through there

01:20:57.480 we go green party executives are moved with have moved to withhold funding from leader anime paul's

01:21:03.380 campaign to win a downtown toronto seat in a likely election day this year or party sources

01:21:07.960 who were granted anonymity because

01:21:09.900 they were not authorized to speak publicly about internal

01:21:11.960 manners. So a motion was tabled at a

01:21:14.000 federal council meeting on June 29th to hold back

01:21:16.000 $250,000 previously earmarked

01:21:18.620 for Paul's

01:21:20.000 campaign in Toronto Centre.

01:21:21.900 The motion has yet to pass, and

01:21:24.140 Douglas Tingey,

01:21:26.360 President of the Green Party of Canada

01:21:28.080 Fund,

01:21:30.160 says the party remains committed to supporting

01:21:31.920 Toronto Centre to the best of his understanding.

01:21:34.340 The specific details are confidential.

01:21:35.980 Paul, who does not have a seat in the House of Commons, came in second to Liberal Mark Lichem in a by-election

01:21:41.640 to replace former Finance Minister Bill Morneau in Toronto Centre last fall.

01:21:46.940 Passing the motion would mean fewer dollars to put forward advertising, research, and staff resources.

01:21:52.220 The move to halt cash flow follows layoffs.

01:21:54.600 Last week, of about half the Greens employees amid party infighting and divides,

01:21:58.960 that bubbled in a public view when New Brunswick MP Jenica Atwin

01:22:01.980 bubble

01:22:05.160 view

01:22:06.420 defected to the Liberals last month.

01:22:09.100 Party is present. Interim executive

01:22:11.020 director did not respond immediately to requests for

01:22:13.020 comment. Okay.

01:22:15.100 So, why do we care?

01:22:17.460 Why do we care about

01:22:18.680 Sheldon's

01:22:21.120 got a good joke there.

01:22:22.600 Did Stuart Hoff said his car phone with that flight?

01:22:25.520 You know, I'll ask him that

01:22:27.020 when he gets back.

01:22:27.880 i'm doing my best to to keep my contributors happy but uh you've got a good point there

01:22:36.440 sheldon all right let's let's take a deep breath here and let's think about this for a minute so

01:22:41.060 so let's review from from past lessons on the green party so luckily we literally have a former

01:22:46.900 leader of the green party as one of our contributors who is again stewart parker and what that allows

01:22:51.900 us uh to know and to do is is to kind of get an inside scoop into those progressive politics so

01:22:58.620 the interesting thing is that as he stated in no uncertain terms green party has actually been

01:23:04.380 really divided for a really really really long time and there's been a lot of problems with the

01:23:09.660 with the green party for well for decades and so the point that he was trying to draw here is that

01:23:16.780 anime paul in his opinion was what he called a looter or and for that matter basically a terrorist

01:23:23.180 a hostage taker somebody who comes into an organization on totally false pretenses of like

01:23:28.780 look i'm the professional i'm the right symbol i've got the right branding i am what you need

01:23:33.820 to win i am i am who you need to get where you need to go and you get overwhelmed by the sense

01:23:39.420 of professionals hey if we buy this guy right now we do this right now basically it's a hack

01:23:43.740 sell jobs right it's like you're not selling you're not even selling your product you're

01:23:46.460 selling yourself you're like i am the product like you got to trust me you got to get with me girl

01:23:50.860 you got to get if you get with me you're going to have a good time you get with me you're going to

01:23:54.220 be successful in business you get with me you're going to be you know like i'll get you all the

01:23:57.500 office supply equipment you could ever want i used to sell office supply equipment so don't so don't

01:24:01.660 get after me as if that sounds like it's a punch down it's not a punch down it's a punch right in

01:24:05.100 my own face i used to sell that stuff so the point that i'm trying to draw here though is that the

01:24:13.740 the short version of the story is that we know we know that

01:24:21.720 and you know anime paul and the gang were all

01:24:27.480 were her little group of people were all kind of dead set on getting involved with

01:24:34.120 um with the green party of canada in order to essentially loot it in order to kind of

01:24:39.720 further their own agenda not do anything green related not do anything about saving the environment

01:24:43.520 or whatever else, to bring in their own kind of identitarian brand

01:24:46.480 and kind of just have things go sideways with the Green Party.

01:24:49.700 And what happened was, Annamie Paul, I believe, is a person of Jewish descent.

01:24:56.160 And her staff member, who was quite clearly of Jewish descent,

01:25:00.220 he had a name, last name, that's pretty clearly Hebrew or Israeli.

01:25:06.260 And he made a point of trying to connect the intersectionalism

01:25:10.000 that usually aligns with Palestine, right?

01:25:12.320 like that same kind of you know there's there's gays for palestine all sorts of bizarre groups

01:25:17.320 that that are all together i say bizarre not necessarily because of their orientation i say

01:25:21.320 bizarre because their orientation wouldn't survive in palestine right to be clear about that 0.91

01:25:26.540 um things don't go well for the lgbtq community inside of palestine

01:25:32.240 the west bank and gaza but again regardless uh the we put in air quotes intersectionalism

01:25:42.300 that usually exists around that which is exactly what it is that's usually what exists um you know

01:25:49.420 black live matters is going to be pro-palestine the lgbtq crowd is going to be pro-palestine the

01:25:54.100 climate change side is going to be pro-palestine there's so there's this intersection of of you

01:25:59.100 know if you hear something that sounds kind of like left-wing you know that your kind of left-wing

01:26:02.680 friends are all going to be kind of left-wing about it they're all going to do the same thing

01:26:06.000 So but she out of nowhere with her with her staff member, that staff member came out of nowhere and said, look, like we're going to, you know, like we're going to also be pro-Israeli from a climate activist sort of perspective and that sort of thing.

01:26:22.520 And that was not expected.

01:26:26.460 Of course, it comes out of nowhere and called for condemnation of of that individual.

01:26:32.920 And he she didn't dismiss him, I don't think.

01:26:36.000 And then the next thing that happened is she she came out and said, well, the reason people are opposing me is I am I'm I'm you know, I'm a black woman and I'm I'm of Jewish descent and I'm all sorts of things that that, you know, that obviously are being people are racists and people are against me and and they hate me.

01:26:59.600 And because they are against me and they hate me and they they're intolerant of me, that's why they're coming after me.

01:27:04.180 so she used that old uh identitarian argument that a lot of people are you know we're all using

01:27:09.820 it nowadays well you just don't like me i mean but we used to do this on the playground well

01:27:13.280 you just don't like me because i'm a girl it's like well you just don't like because i'm a boy

01:27:16.880 because you think boys have cooties or whatever and that all that all started uh you know

01:27:24.920 that all started some time ago so so we have we have with anime paul or sorts of funny

01:27:34.040 things going on. And now we're into

01:27:36.040 a part where there's literally

01:27:37.620 the Green Party just tearing itself apart

01:27:40.160 trying to figure out whether or not they're going to stay

01:27:42.020 or go. Are they going to stay with

01:27:43.640 Anime Paul? Are they going to just

01:27:46.040 give her the money and let her walk 1.00

01:27:47.960 away? She's getting paid an enormous amount of money 1.00

01:27:50.140 to be their leader, as Stuart

01:27:51.860 alluded to us. And

01:27:53.860 my beloved

01:27:55.940 producer has managed to get all

01:27:58.100 these things lined up. So we're

01:28:00.100 going to jump back here

01:28:01.220 and get some

01:28:04.520 more stuff streamed. Got anything in the

01:28:06.520 comments? Nope.

01:28:08.080 Okay. Try again.

01:28:11.980 This is

01:28:12.620 why I have my producer help me with this stuff

01:28:14.600 because I am a

01:28:16.200 total

01:28:17.420 total

01:28:18.860 what is it? It's not

01:28:22.320 troglodyte, it's a cave dweller. Luddite

01:28:23.980 comes with stuff.

01:28:26.400 Anyway, Paul loses key staffers in

01:28:28.360 Green Party layoffs. So let's see if the CBC

01:28:30.280 gave her a bad treatment or not.

01:28:32.260 Paul is facing a possible non-conference vote

01:28:34.000 later this month.

01:28:35.640 Green party layoffs are leaving leader

01:28:37.940 Anna May Paul without staff in her office

01:28:39.880 as a feud between Paul and the party goes on.

01:28:42.680 Three sources affected by the cuts

01:28:44.680 who were granted anonymity

01:28:46.100 because they were not authorized to speak publicly

01:28:47.960 say Green party executive director Dana Taylor

01:28:50.540 sent out the notices today

01:28:52.060 slashing the paid ranks of the party in half.

01:28:54.580 The executive recently announced

01:28:56.080 at an all-staff meeting

01:28:57.760 that some 15 layoffs were coming.

01:28:59.360 That virtual gathering stalled after Taylor clicked Paul's mute button as the leader was speaking against the payroll cut.

01:29:07.440 Two other Greens refused to continue until she was unmuted again, according to the same three sources who were all there.

01:29:13.660 Sources said the temporary layoffs took effect Friday evening, including no severance packages.

01:29:18.000 They said the laid-off sufferers might be asked to return to work if an election kicks on.

01:29:22.940 Their refusal would be considered tentative amount to resignation.

01:29:24.840 The cuts have included newer staff who came in since Paul was elected nine months ago.

01:29:30.640 Taylor and the leader's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday.

01:29:39.640 One thing we need to remember when it comes to corruption and people's terrible attitude towards things is that it always costs somebody else.

01:29:48.880 That's the thing about theft, right?

01:29:50.180 Theft isn't just stealing.

01:29:52.080 Theft is the loss for someone else, right?

01:29:54.520 what's murder? Murder is the theft of life, right? You took somebody else's life. It was someone

01:29:58.000 else's potential. It was someone else's everything, right? You took someone else's loved one. That's

01:30:02.340 the thing, right? You're taking, you're not just, you're not just doing a plus one in your column

01:30:06.240 of whatever it is. You are taking something away from somebody else, right? And usually the

01:30:11.440 ramifications of that can be exponential, just like they're an exponential plus for you. I mean,

01:30:16.000 if I got, I get a million dollars I didn't earn, you know, and I spent five minutes getting it

01:30:20.540 because i'm a you know great hacker at bank cards or something well right that uh that that you know

01:30:30.120 i got i got a lot ahead well a lot of people lost something they tried to save up for a very long

01:30:34.040 time so that's the thing and when it comes to looters and when it comes to these things like

01:30:39.020 look at these poor staffers are getting laid out i'm not saying that these staffers are home

01:30:42.280 worthy of praise or something and i'm sure some of them are real hacks given that they came on a lot

01:30:46.400 of them came on after anime paul but those are the ones who are getting punished they should just

01:30:50.360 punish her and dismiss maybe all of them all at once or at least dismiss the leader who is most

01:30:55.380 deserving first maybe but instead of course they're just going after her people instead of

01:30:59.980 her because for some reason they can't get rid of her well they can get rid of her i'm pretty sure 0.72

01:31:03.800 they can dismiss the leader by a confidence vote within the executive very simply but they're not

01:31:09.360 doing it and so now other people are suffering other people are scrambling other people wondering

01:31:13.720 where their next paycheck is going to come from.

01:31:15.320 And that's the same thing

01:31:16.440 even when the SNC-Lavalin scam

01:31:19.540 came up. I didn't want the engineers

01:31:21.400 and the paper pushers throughout the

01:31:23.380 ranks of SNC-Lavalin to get harmed.

01:31:25.720 I wanted the CEO to answer

01:31:27.220 for the terrible things that it done.

01:31:29.420 But that's never the way it

01:31:31.360 goes. Sheldon has a good

01:31:33.260 question here. So what is

01:31:35.380 Anna Mae Paul's endgame, a new

01:31:37.380 radical democratic party who

01:31:39.340 are the donors now? It's a good

01:31:41.320 question. What is her endgame? I don't

01:31:43.460 know. I don't know.

01:31:49.040 I think her, well, I mean, I think

01:31:51.480 it's actually kind of obvious what her end game is. Her end game is get the money, get 1.00

01:31:55.280 paid, and get out, right? That's what she wants. She wants 1.00

01:31:59.280 the money. So they probably need to just say, look, we would

01:32:03.320 like you to voluntarily resign, and we're going to give you $150,000.

01:32:08.860 And she'd probably take the money.

01:32:10.560 i know i'd take the money unless i actually had a principled place to stand on

01:32:15.780 but i don't know what's going to happen there we'll keep watching that with interest especially

01:32:20.980 since the federal election is coming

01:32:22.320 deal with china we're going to deal with ads natural security research research funding 0.99

01:32:31.500 harper well we'll go take a jump to harper here so we're going to go to our favorite

01:32:35.900 anti-Chinese

01:32:37.880 that is to say Chinese Communist Party

01:32:40.580 to be clear, the CCP

01:32:42.240 we're going to go to our favourite propaganda site

01:32:44.720 where

01:32:45.520 the various things that the Chinese are up to 0.91

01:32:48.540 that is to say again, the Chinese Communist Party

01:32:50.940 is up to, is

01:32:52.380 properly discussed and dismissed

01:32:54.140 and exposed to light. Here we are

01:32:56.560 Harper urges

01:32:58.260 global powers not to negotiate

01:33:00.860 with incoming Iranian regime

01:33:02.720 so, and this was actually by the Canadian press

01:33:05.020 It was just found on the Epoch Times.

01:33:07.060 Governments around the world should shun Iran's incoming president 1.00

01:33:10.460 based on the long-standing record of human rights abuse.

01:33:12.640 A former Canadian prime minister argued Saturday

01:33:16.000 in a speech to an international conference

01:33:18.080 on the state of Middle Eastern country.

01:33:21.280 Stephen Harper's remark came at a virtual meeting

01:33:23.120 of the Free Iran World Summit.

01:33:25.540 Canada's 22nd prime minister told attendees

01:33:27.260 that hardliner Ibrahim Raisi's rise to power

01:33:31.740 is further evidence of escalating extremism at play in Iran.

01:33:35.020 The judiciary chief is set to formally take power next month, becoming the first serving reign president sanctioned by the U.S. government, even before entering office in part of his over his involvement to the mass execution of a thousand political prisoners in 1988.

01:33:49.080 Yeah, he sounds like a real winner.

01:33:50.780 This guy, Ibrahim Rezi is a criminal guilty of crimes against humanity. 0.98

01:33:54.640 He is a living symbol of the folly of trying to appease Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khomeini's regime, Harper said during his brief speech.

01:34:01.920 Shame on any government in the world that would sit down and try to negotiate anything with an administration led by Ibrahim Raisi.

01:34:11.020 Raisi, a protégé of the supreme leader, vaulted to Iran's highest civilian position in a vote that saw historically low turnout after the strongest competition was disqualified by a panel under Khomeini.

01:34:23.260 Harper said that

01:34:26.320 this sham election shows how

01:34:28.820 efforts to salvage the since-tarnished

01:34:30.460 2015 nuclear deal with Tehran

01:34:32.700 has only emboldened its extremist

01:34:34.820 forces

01:34:35.260 is there anything else to put there

01:34:39.000 but their deal floundered

01:34:40.760 when Donald Trump pulled out of the agreement

01:34:42.880 President Joe Biden's team have made

01:34:44.820 the US return to the deal one of their top priorities

01:34:46.740 Raisi has rejected the possibility of meeting

01:34:48.740 with Biden or opening negotiation

01:34:50.420 interesting

01:34:52.900 Okay, let's get rid of that.

01:34:55.240 So Harper is making his words felt and his noise felt.

01:35:01.800 That's kind of what Harper gets up to nowadays. 1.00

01:35:03.840 Every now and again, he kind of comes on as a statesman

01:35:06.120 and shows up and says something sobering

01:35:08.800 and kind of wanders off back to wherever he was from

01:35:11.480 doing whatever he was up to with his Lego hair.

01:35:14.920 Right now, I wish I had Lego hair

01:35:16.460 because my not Lego hair is not doing what I want to do.

01:35:19.500 But I think when it comes to Harper's remarks,

01:35:22.720 I don't think he's wrong

01:35:23.760 Iran's a terrible regime 0.99

01:35:26.420 Iran's an illegitimate state 1.00

01:35:28.820 and it shouldn't exist the way it is

01:35:30.940 but

01:35:32.060 simultaneously

01:35:33.160 if America is going to continue to play

01:35:36.740 ball with them, particularly the Democrats in America

01:35:38.760 for some reason

01:35:40.840 they want Iran to go nuclear

01:35:42.140 I have no idea

01:35:44.240 I have no idea why they want

01:35:46.900 Iran to go nuclear, but they think about it

01:35:49.260 Sheldon's giving me some

01:35:50.760 guff here

01:35:52.160 Six out of ten for Lego hair.

01:35:56.740 Why anybody would want Iran to have nuclear weapons is beyond me,

01:36:00.280 because I think that's a direct threat to Israel.

01:36:02.340 And besides, the last time Iran tried to get nuclear weapons,

01:36:04.740 we all know what happened.

01:36:07.360 Well, we all know what happened.

01:36:08.920 Whether we want to say it was directly,

01:36:10.480 I think at this point it's actually public knowledge

01:36:12.060 that it was directly under the Israelis that this occurred.

01:36:14.580 But the point is, various data mining occurred

01:36:18.000 and various strategic entry occurred

01:36:21.180 and some assassinations occurred

01:36:23.180 and eventually one of those half-finished reactors

01:36:25.640 blew up and took everybody with it.

01:36:29.660 And that's that.

01:36:30.580 So, I mean, anytime that there's a threat to Israel

01:36:35.360 that is that grave,

01:36:37.020 Israel pulls itself together and takes it out. 0.99

01:36:41.400 And that's kind of it.

01:36:42.660 I don't really know what else to say.

01:36:43.920 i i don't i truly don't understand who thinks this is a good idea this is a terrible idea if

01:36:51.520 and actually pamela's got a point here the hawks and the bion administration like wars you know 1.00

01:36:55.600 what i think that might be it might be that simple because i don't know if it is anything else

01:37:00.800 because let's be clear why else would you want to give iran nuclear weapons and to start a war in

01:37:05.360 the middle east because that's just going to start another war i don't trust around with nuclear 1.00

01:37:10.240 weapons you don't trust iran with nuclear weapons nobody trusts around with nuclear weapons the

01:37:14.480 chinese don't trust iran with nuclear weapons they're they're a situational ally to china 0.90

01:37:19.760 that's all iran is is a situational ally it allows china to to just use them as a wedge against the

01:37:27.760 united states same as north korea same in the way not that the chinese have particular love

01:37:32.720 for the for the indians as to say india the subcontinent but they they also use them as a

01:37:39.120 wedge or definitely make some dealings on the side to try and get india on side with certain project 0.96

01:37:44.320 so china is surrounded by nuclear powers and the american nuclear umbrella which covers to

01:37:50.320 taiwan and japan and the chinese have a whole bunch of unstable neighbors who have nuclear 0.99

01:37:58.320 weapons and i can't imagine why that's a good idea and why would they want to add to that list

01:38:04.000 these unstable people unstable nations are not the people you want to have nuclear weapons

01:38:14.400 unless you want a war i think i think pamela's right unless you want a war so that's what's

01:38:19.520 going on there they want a war in the middle east why i don't know i guess it pays big money

01:38:23.200 to people who like war i don't know okay what's going on here ottawa adds national security risk

01:38:30.400 assessments to federal funding research already let's share this screen

01:38:34.320 all righty the this is also by the canadian press that's interesting the federal government

01:38:47.300 is setting new guidelines that work national security considerations into funding criteria

01:38:51.520 for university research innovation minister francois philippe champagne says research

01:38:58.340 projects must now undergo

01:39:00.560 a risk assessment as part of

01:39:02.640 any grant application to the natural

01:39:04.520 sciences and engineering research.

01:39:07.380 He says the research

01:39:08.820 council will then address and

01:39:10.500 work how to mitigate any risk.

01:39:13.100 Da-da-da.

01:39:14.700 Security questions around scientific

01:39:16.360 research have drawn renewed attention after two

01:39:18.600 scientists were escorted from the high

01:39:20.500 security national microbiology laboratory

01:39:22.380 in Winnipeg in July 2019 and then

01:39:24.560 fired earlier this year.

01:39:27.700 Yeah.

01:39:28.340 Well, I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory

01:39:34.500 if you ask me.

01:39:37.880 The short version of that story is that

01:39:40.140 we know now basically

01:39:43.280 we know for a fact that those people were dismissed

01:39:47.040 and we know for nearly just dead short of

01:39:50.840 certainty that they were working with the Chinese Communist Party

01:39:54.200 of Canada, though there must be one of those

01:39:56.900 too, of China.

01:39:58.840 And that's exactly what's going

01:40:00.940 on. What happened was

01:40:02.360 in

01:40:03.420 Winnipeg, we have a variety lab.

01:40:06.480 I'm going to take a time out here for a second. I don't know if

01:40:08.460 y'all ever been to Winnipeg. If anybody

01:40:10.600 in the crowd here hasn't been to Winnipeg, you should

01:40:12.600 go. And the reason you should go is that Winnipeg

01:40:14.580 is this kind of bizarre place, which is like

01:40:16.700 the last of what was Canada

01:40:18.680 before the rest of the West was built, and

01:40:20.600 the first of Canada of the rest 0.97

01:40:22.760 of the west right and it's it's our it's our chicago like it's our detroit it's our despite

01:40:29.340 not having the lakes that the lakes are just north of it of course but i mean it's like it's our it's

01:40:34.080 our midwestern town that's got a bit of that midwestern flavor that isn't old canada central

01:40:41.120 canada eastern canada but at the same time has got just enough of that old flavor to it that's

01:40:46.120 it's still distinct in the west it's pretty cool so do visit winnipeg it's a good time i've been

01:40:51.600 there once or twice it's a worthwhile city to visit and it's got some fancy stuff there it's

01:40:57.000 got the canadian mint for example for servicing western canada anyways and producing all of our

01:41:01.140 loonies and tunis and all our other coins and of course clearly it also has a virology lab so so

01:41:06.740 like winnipeg's not an unserious place it's got some stuff you know so what the point i'm trying

01:41:13.200 to make is that in that viral well in that microbiology lab sorry to be clear there was

01:41:19.960 clearly some agents of foreign powers that were doing research along with everybody else,

01:41:24.500 contributing to the research, I guess, or at least taking notes for everybody and sending them home

01:41:29.300 via wire transfer or something, right? Like sending home, you know, clandestinely the research of

01:41:36.340 what they were doing. And that's a problem because obviously it's kind of top secret stuff what's

01:41:42.240 going on in a microbiology laboratory, especially if it did have anything to do with virology or

01:41:46.800 infectious disease or for that matter possibility you know because state governments are quite

01:41:51.440 involved with building vaccines and that sort of thing and other pharmaceuticals but it definitely

01:41:58.480 it definitely uh is is a high security risk and so i'm glad to hear that ottawa is actually

01:42:06.180 putting that into basically shirk grants um whatever the equivalent is for science i can't

01:42:13.300 remember what that's called but i remember shirk being a kind of somewhat dirty word

01:42:16.800 when i was when i was in university because shirk was uh the social humanities

01:42:22.620 investigation thing whatever the point is it's a research council and you you could apply to

01:42:31.340 them for funding especially if you were going into post-grad so if you're going into either

01:42:35.300 graduate studies of

01:42:37.860 masters or PhD level

01:42:39.580 and

01:42:40.940 the point

01:42:44.000 is that they're going to have for that same

01:42:45.760 version but for the engineering science side

01:42:48.100 the hard sciences side

01:42:49.280 that research council

01:42:51.880 and grant authority

01:42:53.980 is now going to review whether or not

01:42:55.900 you might have a possible leak

01:42:57.380 in your research that's going to a

01:42:59.900 foreign power because we don't want to 1.00

01:43:01.880 pay for foreign powers research

01:43:04.840 So I think that we got to be honest about that

01:43:10.580 and know that there are foreign agents,

01:43:14.440 foreign state actors on our shores.

01:43:16.840 And that's something we need to recognize.

01:43:18.960 And if we don't recognize that sooner rather than later,

01:43:21.560 we're going to get into a lot of trouble.

01:43:24.660 And hopefully we've learned it this time.

01:43:27.520 So speaking of the Chinese Communist Party,

01:43:29.980 we've got one last little item here

01:43:31.540 that came to us from our lovely producer.

01:43:34.140 do share canada calls on china to comply with south china sea ruling this is interesting so

01:43:44.620 as we all know the south china sea uh which is located south of china it's it's located it's

01:43:51.100 it's you're looking at a map of southeast asia and the south china sea of course is that part

01:43:57.420 of the ocean that kind of comes off of the round part the bottom round the bottom right corner of

01:44:02.460 China right below Hong Kong 0.88

01:44:04.260 near Vietnam

01:44:05.400 and Cambodia and all that jazz that whole

01:44:08.380 section there

01:44:09.420 that's the South China Sea because all the rest

01:44:12.560 of that is kind of the China Sea and then

01:44:14.480 there's the Sea of Japan over there by Korea and that

01:44:16.540 sort of thing but down south there that's the

01:44:18.440 China Sea and this is the South

01:44:20.320 China Sea so here we

01:44:22.420 go

01:44:22.620 Canada has called on China to

01:44:26.300 comply with international law in the South

01:44:28.400 China Sea based on a historic ruling by an

01:44:30.420 arbitration funeral five years

01:44:32.440 ago that rejected Beijing's territorial claims in the region. Canada is particularly concerned

01:44:36.880 by China's escalatory and destabilizing actions in the East and South China Sea, including

01:44:42.920 recently off the Philippine coast, and by the militarization of disputed features and

01:44:48.980 the use of naval Coast Guard maritime militia vessels to intimidate and threaten the ships

01:44:53.160 of other states, Global Affairs Canada said in a statement on July 11th. On the fifth

01:44:59.940 anniversary of the decision by the tribunal constituted under the united nations conventions

01:45:03.760 on the law of the sea in the matter of the south china sea arbitration canada reiterates the need

01:45:09.440 for all involved parties to comply with it china which lays claim to most the waters within the

01:45:15.100 so-called 9-9 is also contested by brunai malaysia the philippines taiwan and vietnam

01:45:20.360 they did not accept the 2016 ruling by the international court at the hague

01:45:25.600 Philippine Foreign Secretary

01:45:28.260 Tedoro Luxon Jr.

01:45:30.820 issued a statement on July 12th

01:45:32.400 asserting that the tribunal's decision is final

01:45:34.680 he firmly rejected attempts

01:45:36.300 to underbind it

01:45:37.320 nay even erase it from law, history

01:45:39.660 and our collective memories

01:45:40.660 he added that the ruling serves as guideposts

01:45:43.440 to littoral states

01:45:45.580 giving those states that enclose the South China Sea

01:45:48.140 the latitude and boundary within which

01:45:49.940 they can exercise their territorial rights

01:45:51.640 such as where their fishermen can fish

01:45:54.100 where they can exercise law enforcement

01:45:56.020 patrols, where they can send their ships without

01:45:57.860 permission from the nearest state, without creating

01:46:00.040 cause for action, or

01:46:01.940 cause this belly, of course, war.

01:46:04.000 It's a reason for war between them. 0.96

01:46:10.820 Blinken issued a

01:46:12.020 statement.

01:46:14.120 Maritime claims completely unlawful.

01:46:16.900 So,

01:46:18.460 we have to remember that

01:46:21.580 there's a couple of different pieces here.

01:46:23.300 we they just like russia being uh very assertive with its

01:46:29.780 being very assertive with its claims um especially to ukraine and that sort of thing

01:46:36.960 china is essentially trying to lay claim to what's in the south china sea uh which which

01:46:41.940 are formerly called the spratly islands and that's that's just and there's little there's

01:46:48.480 little atolls in there just like there's atolls all throughout the ring of fire right which we

01:46:52.520 all recall from our geography classes uh the ring of fire is of course all that volcanic substance

01:46:59.340 and everything else is the reason why the pacific ocean looks like a giant ring is because

01:47:02.840 it follows the chilean mountains the andes it goes all the way up north america all the way

01:47:07.680 out to alaska all the way down from ladavostok and through korea and japan and the east coast

01:47:13.120 of china and then down into the philippines and all the way along papa new guinea and all of

01:47:17.440 Oceania, and all those tiny little islands, Micronesia, New Caledonia, all in between.

01:47:22.420 It all has to do with volcanic activity.

01:47:24.500 We all remember that.

01:47:25.940 So in the South China Sea, there are some islands that were formed from volcanic activity

01:47:31.840 back in the day.

01:47:32.660 They're little atolls or little tiny islands, and some of them are called the Spratly Islands.

01:47:36.320 And China is basically just sending its ships there and establishing bases there and doing

01:47:41.520 whatever it likes because there wasn't a military presence there really before, except maybe

01:47:46.600 during the last war second world war and maybe during vietnam briefly but other than that there

01:47:52.400 isn't any there isn't anything there so what i'm trying to essentially give you as a as a version

01:47:58.780 of this is that china has been asserting its territorial claims over this area for a long time

01:48:04.100 because of course if you are a state that has it in mind that you're going to dominate the world

01:48:08.380 someday all you can do is expand your territory that's always the best it's always the best choice

01:48:13.680 but as we

01:48:17.160 say everywhere else

01:48:19.920 in international relations

01:48:21.300 it's not over until it's over

01:48:24.280 and what China is doing

01:48:25.880 is completely unlawful

01:48:27.540 but the problem with states is

01:48:29.760 there's no police force to enforce a law

01:48:31.800 upon states

01:48:32.660 and I'm talking about nation states

01:48:34.640 so unless the Americans are going to send

01:48:37.280 an aircraft carrier into that area

01:48:40.040 and basically sit there for a while

01:48:41.940 and perform some exercises that explain

01:48:44.520 in no uncertain terms that they're still

01:48:46.120 the big boys in town.

01:48:47.980 Until that gets sorted,

01:48:50.760 unfortunately, the Chinese 1.00

01:48:52.500 are going to continue to run roughshod over

01:48:54.400 everything.

01:48:59.300 Interesting.

01:49:01.020 The producers put up one last

01:49:02.400 thing for me here, but we are getting pretty close

01:49:04.460 to the end of our hour.

01:49:06.040 I'm going to quickly stream

01:49:08.320 that.

01:49:09.220 Share screen.

01:49:11.940 it's coming to us from msnbc i guess

01:49:16.860 china we are a near arctic state and we want a polar silk road china announced its official

01:49:25.000 arctic policy to the world late last month promoting beijing's ambitions for the region

01:49:29.440 and raising fears about a chinese takeover takeover of the polar zone uh but while the

01:49:35.100 world's second large economy, which I

01:49:36.900 identified as a near-Arctic state,

01:49:38.720 have its own

01:49:40.940 interests. Experts

01:49:42.960 caution it doesn't mean a geographical

01:49:45.000 standoff is coming. Well, that's

01:49:47.120 nonsense.

01:49:51.080 China, which is no closer to 0.90

01:49:52.940 the Arctic than Poland is, 0.90

01:49:55.220 has been working on its strategy in an extended period

01:49:57.000 of time in its induction as an observer that Arctic

01:49:58.920 State Council approved in 2013.

01:50:01.620 Yeah, they want in.

01:50:03.020 I know that they're funding all sorts of stuff

01:50:05.020 up their partnerships. There we go.

01:50:07.060 Through the promise of investments and trade growth,

01:50:09.040 China made sure to take diplomatic

01:50:10.880 steps in courting the Arctic Council. The country

01:50:12.940 entered into joint ventures with Russian

01:50:14.780 gas companies, built a large embassy

01:50:16.820 in Iceland, helped finance the

01:50:18.820 Kura Exil train in Finland,

01:50:20.960 thawed its relations with Norway, and invested

01:50:22.680 into Greenland.

01:50:24.740 We'll become less reliant on Denmark.

01:50:27.580 Mines of Greenland and Holland.

01:50:31.780 Behaviour today.

01:50:36.020 China is able to provide financing for Arctic countries.

01:50:40.400 Well, I mean, that's not news.

01:50:44.100 We've all known about that for a long time.

01:50:47.140 But the short version is, if you were scared of China before,

01:50:50.200 just wait until you see them take over the polar ice caps.

01:50:52.540 That's going to be really bad for us.

01:50:54.700 So we'll talk about that a little bit more tomorrow.

01:50:57.840 I'm going to put up my email here.

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01:51:56.160 that was Mountain Standard time

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