Western Standard - Mountain Standard Time - July 6th, 2021

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00:01:30.000 hello and good morning welcome to mountain standard time i'm your host nathan gita and

00:01:37.520 today we're going to be doing comments and viewer interaction as well as reading out some of the

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00:03:24.140 so let's see where are we going to start today well i i know that this isn't you know i'm not

00:03:32.620 a professor uh i do have professors on here every now and again actually so stewart parker of course

00:03:37.660 has got a phd and that sort of thing but um i i'm not a professor and i'm not exactly the one to wax

00:03:43.180 philosophical about a bunch of different stuff but there is something i want to start with today and

00:03:47.260 And it's a poem that's always meant a lot to me.

00:03:49.860 And it got quoted the other day by, actually, Stuart on his Facebook feed.

00:03:54.460 But I had been thinking about it myself for a couple of days.

00:03:57.020 We were clearly on the same wavelength.

00:03:59.160 And it's very short.

00:04:01.040 It's only 22 lines long.

00:04:03.040 It's free verse.

00:04:04.240 And it's, of course, by William Butler Yeats.

00:04:07.860 And so let me just grab it and bring it up onto the share screen here.

00:04:12.340 Because I really do believe that this kind of sums up where we're at right now.

00:04:15.800 We've got some, we got some problems.

00:04:19.340 The Second Coming by William Butler Yeats.

00:04:24.780 Turning and turning in the widening gyre,

00:04:29.040 the falcon cannot hear the falconer.

00:04:32.500 Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold.

00:04:36.980 Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.

00:04:40.040 The blood-dimmed tide is loosed,

00:04:42.800 And everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned

00:04:46.920 The best lack all conviction

00:04:49.580 While the worst are full of passionate intensity

00:04:54.600 Surely some revelation is at hand

00:04:58.540 Surely the second coming is at hand

00:05:01.780 The second coming

00:05:03.340 Hardly are those words out

00:05:05.820 When a vast image out of spiritus mundi

00:05:08.720 Troubles my sight

00:05:10.140 Somewhere in the sands of the desert

00:05:12.660 A shape with lion body

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00:05:15.920 A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun

00:05:18.740 Is moving its slow thighs 0.97

00:05:21.220 While all about it

00:05:22.660 Real shadows of the indignant

00:05:25.300 Desert birds

00:05:26.660 The darkness drops again

00:05:29.400 But now I know

00:05:30.740 That twenty centuries of stony sleep

00:05:32.820 Were vexed to nightmare

00:05:34.340 By a rocking cradle

00:05:35.680 And what rough beast

00:05:37.580 It's our come round at last

00:05:40.660 slouches towards bethlehem to be born yeah i mean it's kind of dreary stuff make no mistake

00:05:48.920 but uh i i think i think we got to be honest with uh where we're at with that

00:05:54.680 things aren't going well things are going really bad uh i didn't write out my opening statement so

00:06:02.420 much this morning as i'm just kind of riffing it but we're into that portion of what we're doing

00:06:06.180 here right now and and i i don't think it's much to riff to be honest with you i mean we got

00:06:11.000 the church fires around canada which are orders of magnitude beyond unacceptable or intolerable

00:06:22.060 but but for different reasons that i think we're actually going to be able to put our finger on it

00:06:26.160 i need to get into some of those nuances in just a moment but if i said that we're going to be

00:06:31.800 church fires somewhere you would immediately suspect oh yeah well that's going to happen in

00:06:35.380 the Middle East. It's going to happen in that part of where sub-Saharan Africa meets Saharan 0.95

00:06:39.660 Africa because there's often ethnic clashes there along religious lines. You'd think that it might

00:06:45.760 have happened in Southeast Asia where there's still elements of communism and anti-clerical

00:06:53.940 sentiment. You might think it was in China proper, not even for a church burning, but just a church

00:06:58.700 emptying, right? They'd obviously have found a clergyman who wasn't conforming to the Chinese

00:07:02.700 communist party and they would have thrown him in jail with the uyghurs and they would have put all 1.00

00:07:07.180 of his people in jail too maybe they'd harvest them for organs you think just about anywhere

00:07:11.340 but canada is my point but it's canada that we're talking about there are churches burning in this

00:07:20.140 country i didn't have that on my 2021 bingo card and at the same time though i'm not surprised

00:07:30.060 i'm not surprised because well

00:07:39.820 the fact of the matter is that some people are really angry about the narrative that's

00:07:43.500 being put forward about the residential schools we'll get into that in another moment but i can

00:07:49.020 understand why somebody's natural inclination would be towards violence i can understand that

00:07:53.900 but the but the other side of that equation quite frankly is that

00:08:02.300 you can't just you can't just have wanton destruction of things and if someone is going

00:08:07.340 to try and just destroy you you don't just ask them to please not stop you have to resist

00:08:13.820 and so here we are at at the end of these things here we are into you know well into 2021 we're

00:08:20.780 actually on the bottom half of 2021 we're past midway and things don't look like they're getting

00:08:27.900 better they look like they're getting worse even as the lockdowns are lifted even as the pandemic

00:08:32.380 appears to recede whatever one's opinion the pandemic was clearly racial hatred and angers

00:08:39.900 and tensions and historical wrongs and old wounds are all being brought to the fore and there we are

00:08:46.140 in that ever-winded in gyre that's mentioned in that poem.

00:08:52.560 The falcon cannot hear the falconer, right?

00:08:55.680 Round and around and around it goes, right?

00:08:57.940 It gets out of control.

00:09:00.560 The center cannot hold.

00:09:02.420 And I especially like that line,

00:09:04.780 the best lack all conviction,

00:09:07.500 the worst are full of passionate intensity.

00:09:10.480 We have to understand that if you have some kind of intelligent way

00:09:15.760 or nuanced way of put of discussing what happened with the residential schools or even even a very

00:09:20.540 simple straightforward way which just essentially says i can't condemn the attempt to educate

00:09:27.760 children i can condemn that people abuse the system i can condemn that people shouldn't have

00:09:32.720 been apprehended etc but i cannot condemn that the central tenant that was we can't let people

00:09:39.500 go on into modern life

00:09:42.140 without the ability to read, write,

00:09:44.220 and do sums. We can't

00:09:46.120 do that. We can't do

00:09:48.100 that to our neighbor.

00:09:49.640 We can't do that to our neighbor.

00:09:55.100 We have a responsibility

00:09:56.300 to do something about that.

00:09:59.080 That

00:09:59.600 simple, straightforward

00:10:04.620 answer, even though it doesn't answer every

00:10:06.480 part of the charge, it answers

00:10:08.320 the essential question or at least essential element of the question

00:10:15.760 you need to put forward that opinion as best you can in your workplace and in your neighborhood

00:10:20.880 and in your family and it's hard i'm watching it tear families apart right now same as the pandemic

00:10:26.720 did but it needs to be said and the reason needs to be said is that silence in this case really

00:10:32.080 is violence because the best lack all conviction if we aren't going to put forward as as straightforward

00:10:39.040 as we can in a place of honesty and charity we don't need this doesn't need to be about

00:10:43.120 lording it over people but we have to be very careful about about allowing this other narrative

00:10:50.620 to take over the residential schools weren't auschwitz they weren't they objectively weren't

00:10:59.040 They don't match the description of intent to commit genocide upon a group of people

00:11:06.160 based entirely on their race, class, or creed.

00:11:09.660 They don't.

00:11:10.640 They don't meet that definition.

00:11:12.700 Even on its worst day, with the worst people in it, it doesn't meet the definition of genocide.

00:11:18.820 And that doesn't mean that bad things didn't happen.

00:11:22.500 And where those bad things can be rooted out, or the people who were actors in that

00:11:26.700 can be found and punished, they must be.

00:11:29.040 That's not a question, but we need to help pump the brakes on this runaway train

00:11:38.780 that is lurching into insanity and is literally causing the burning of churches.

00:11:50.800 So that's where I want to start from, that we are in the ever-widening gyre.

00:11:55.700 We are in civilizational decline.

00:11:59.040 we can't speak to one another, we can't worship with one another, 0.72

00:12:03.660 we can't discuss issues with one another.

00:12:06.380 The center is not holding.

00:12:09.280 That's why it's starting to speak with one another.

00:12:11.440 The center is not further.

00:12:13.200 Because we want to see some of the other issues we have here today.

00:12:16.960 And another place where we can see some of the other issues we have here today.

00:12:21.980 Another place where we can kind of see that.

00:12:24.140 If you, if, if, I think we had the Civil Liberties lady show up here. 1.00

00:12:28.500 i'm gonna put that into the stream just briefly here i actually met this woman once uh let's see

00:12:34.500 where did she go i put her in here somewhere ahead of here we go i met i met this woman once i met uh 0.96

00:12:42.660 it's a different one i needed the one that started with her picture so we're all on the

00:12:46.500 same page here oh those are all ads that's annoying oh well nothing we can do about it

00:12:54.980 share screen

00:12:57.940 chrome tab head of the bc civil liberties group i'll just use one of these see if we can't get

00:13:06.460 where's the picture of harsha uh you can kind of see her in there but

00:13:12.080 anyways the executive director of the bc civil liberties association is facing criticism over

00:13:19.040 comments she made on social media in response to the burning of multiple churches in the wake of

00:13:22.780 the discovery of human remains in unmarked graves at former residential schools harsha walia leads

00:13:28.160 the organization which fights for civil liberties and human rights she's also a long-time advocate

00:13:32.560 for migrant justice indigenous rights equality and economic justice we have to remember of course

00:13:36.540 that she was the head of no one is illegal which is a pretty radical group that essentially believes

00:13:42.820 that there's no such thing as being stateless and and everybody has a right to to kind of well

00:13:48.880 have a place to call home or their country and so if they've become a refugee or if they've been

00:13:54.240 displaced because of what's happening in their uh get rid of this guy here happening in their

00:13:59.260 country they they have a right to go in to go and well go anywhere especially to canada and and i

00:14:06.220 must admit there i have sympathies for that argument in certain respects uh i don't want

00:14:11.400 anybody to be a stateless person i don't want people to be displaced and i don't want someone

00:14:15.940 to be at risk of violence in their home country because of something they can't help or that you

00:14:21.440 know because of hatred or intolerance like that's not the argument the same at the same time i don't

00:14:28.140 think you can just let anybody into anywhere and the reason you can't do that is for the same reason

00:14:34.380 that i don't you know the same reason that whether it's a doctor or a lawyer who doesn't want a whole

00:14:38.880 bunch of dentists and and doctors and lawyers to come from overseas and take their jobs it's the

00:14:43.780 same thing for the working class the working class has a right to its work and has a right

00:14:48.300 to its wages and for its wages to remain steady and to not be eaten up by people from other 0.54

00:14:54.340 countries coming over flooding the labor market and making labor so cheap that you can throw

00:14:59.980 a working class family out on the street and replace it with a you know a family that doesn't 0.99

00:15:07.260 have its heritage from here that's willing to work for cheaper and and that's a danger that's

00:15:13.400 a real danger and we saw that in the trump presidency that he was fighting that where he is

00:15:17.120 and in canada we have a very very lax attitude towards migrant workers and how they're abused

00:15:23.000 here and that's wrong so for me it's not just about migrant workers being better taken care of

00:15:27.260 for sure but it's also it's also a question of who you let in and out of this country it's it's it's

00:15:33.100 you have to be careful around just letting anybody waltz in unless you want to put them all on

00:15:38.820 homesteading i'd happily i'd happily increase our population tenfold if it meant that they were all

00:15:43.680 going to homestead and develop the land around us happy to do that if we're going to go back to that

00:15:47.760 system no one is illegal everyone everyone is a everyone's a homesteader that's what i'll start

00:15:52.380 as an organization everyone's a homesteader um so this all happened so two more churches have

00:16:00.240 been torched in canada that of course is from vice because vice would put it that way and of course

00:16:04.420 harsha walia uh wrote burn it all down uh june 30 tweet was to find news article burned all town

00:16:11.000 the tweets of firestorm on social media yeah whoever wrote this had a lot of fun

00:16:15.020 uh with uh with writing it because of course you could just say wildfire over and over again

00:16:20.640 uh walia has since locked her twitter account neither she nor the bc civil liberties association

00:16:25.900 has responded to an interview request you know we should reach out to her and see if she'll come

00:16:29.520 on this show because I know who she is.

00:16:31.540 I met her once.

00:16:33.180 I'm going to punt this from the stream.

00:16:36.480 So I met Harsha Wally once.

00:16:39.220 I'll leave that up there for just another minute.

00:16:40.820 No, never mind.

00:16:41.760 I'm good.

00:16:42.780 I met her once.

00:16:43.800 I was at a student conference down in what was, well, I like to say Tawasin, but some

00:16:51.340 people like to say Tawasin, doesn't matter.

00:16:53.320 but the uh i was at the student conference and what happened was

00:16:59.880 i i met this we we had all these there are all these social democrats in the room right so here's

00:17:07.780 so here's the thing if you're if you're somebody who's a bit more to the left to center and you're

00:17:11.060 listening to this uh you're listening to this broadcast just just for i don't know just for

00:17:17.160 the kicks i don't know uh you know this probably isn't your channel this probably isn't your show

00:17:21.760 this probably isn't your kind of content but if you're left of center and and you're you want to

00:17:26.520 have an honest opinion from somebody who's about as right a center as it gets without getting to

00:17:30.780 be a complete reactionary and you know some of the other words you could use for those people

00:17:34.660 i i'm going to tell you that it goes like this so i'm at a student conference

00:17:39.240 i'm down in the lower mainland of british columbia i'm i'm here at a student conference

00:17:45.080 we're right next to where the ferry terminal is obviously we're on i don't know you could say

00:17:49.100 it's unseeded territory or whatever that that band is just figuring itself out when it comes

00:17:53.140 to the seeding of the territory or having having a treaty and stuff like that i'm not sure the point

00:17:57.620 is that we're in swassen and we're at this little conference center and we're here to do do our

00:18:05.000 typical student things which of course we're going to demand more services for less money from the

00:18:09.220 government right we're gonna we want more grants we want education to cost less i'm a bit of a

00:18:15.280 a wolf in sheep's clothing there for a couple of counts one of course i'm a conservative

00:18:18.800 surrounded by people who all vote ndp or green or communist or whatever and two of course i

00:18:23.760 went to a private christian school that had nothing to do with this organization while i

00:18:28.320 was going there and still doesn't because they're not allowed into that conference because of their

00:18:31.920 values uh and of course at the same time i was also sponsored to go there because of my heritage

00:18:37.840 thanks to my first nation status so basically i was very much essentially a plant who didn't man

00:18:43.600 who didn't mean to be a plant because I wasn't working for anybody at the time.

00:18:47.880 I wasn't there to observe and take notes and figure out who we were going to take out next

00:18:52.020 when they became a candidate for the NDP in the next provincial election or something.

00:18:55.260 That's not what happened.

00:18:56.200 I was just there, right?

00:18:58.840 So, and I was there because I was the chairman of a student union up here in Prince George.

00:19:03.820 Our student union at the college here in Prince George is pretty,

00:19:06.780 was at least at that time, was pretty even keeled because it has to represent tradesmen

00:19:10.560 and nurses and dental hygienists. 0.97

00:19:13.220 So it doesn't just represent, you know, a bunch of people taking various courses that are being hyphenated, right, studies, studies, studies, which are always, always a sign that your departments are dying, don't have hyphenated courses, if your courses have a hyphen in them, that means that your course, that your entire department is dying, and that what you're teaching probably isn't real, right?

00:19:36.820 there is a history of warfare there you know peace studies isn't a thing but the history of

00:19:43.260 warfare is or the siege you know the siege of a particular town is something worth studying

00:19:48.620 so is so is you know the development of agricultural practices from the first agrarian

00:19:55.500 period into say just before rome right that those are things worth studying but if you have a

00:20:01.740 hyphenated course and a lot of it has a you know various ethnic references in it or cultural studies

00:20:07.440 references in it or gender studies references in it like all that kind of lingo that's a sign that

00:20:12.080 your department's dying and that your university is on its way up anyways luckily my my university

00:20:17.040 for the most part didn't have that but where we're sitting there is of course we've got a we've got a

00:20:22.660 whole host of students who don't have the values that i have for the most part and and i'm i'm just

00:20:28.960 sitting there in the crowd i'm a leader of my student union i'm just hanging out having a good

00:20:32.660 time but what's interesting actually there's a good one sheldon jones glacial feminism i i don't

00:20:39.500 know if that's real sheldon but if it is may god have mercy on our souls so what happens is i'm

00:20:46.660 sitting there and we're in a room full of people who are all for the lack of a better word social

00:20:51.260 democrats interestingly enough aaron ekman got up on the stage there at one point he was invited

00:20:55.220 because he was part of the BC Federal Labor at the time.

00:20:57.700 And he got up there and he preached a good word to everyone

00:21:00.380 and, you know, tried to rally everybody up.

00:21:02.860 But of course, he was talking about workers' rights

00:21:04.500 that didn't really get much people going.

00:21:06.640 I enjoyed that speech,

00:21:07.640 but a lot of other people didn't really care.

00:21:10.020 And then what happened next was,

00:21:12.560 what happened next,

00:21:13.400 and Sheldon informs me that glacial feminism is real.

00:21:16.440 What happened next,

00:21:17.780 well, or one of the speakers, finally,

00:21:19.820 I think the last speaker we actually had,

00:21:21.820 was Harsha Walia.

00:21:23.240 So Harsha Walia,

00:21:24.180 let's see if i can actually punch up i can get an image of her up here that way you can kind 0.86

00:21:27.700 of see what's going on here archa wall yeah there we go she's labeled as a writer by by uh 0.94

00:21:40.260 no we're gonna use this one this one this one here we go there's a good one

00:21:44.420 i don't know how i don't know how big of an image we can no that's not gonna work we're

00:21:48.420 not gonna use that but we'll use this we'll see if if streaming this it'll just be a big enough

00:21:53.860 image for her share screen chrome tab i think it's the last one in there now

00:22:01.220 harsha wally google share okay can you see that yeah okay that's harsha okay so harsha shows up

00:22:09.780 and she she begins to preach this absolutely radical kind of stump speech like totally

00:22:18.660 radical like we we need to take to the streets we need to we need to transform this country you know

00:22:25.220 history is built out of the the blood and sweat and tears of of those who wish to change it like 0.99

00:22:31.760 it was it was radical it was inspiring it was energetic it was it was full of passion and fury

00:22:38.300 about the injustices as she conceives of them of the world and i was sitting there and i have to

00:22:43.640 honest with you i was i was in like psychologically well not psychologically but at least intellectually

00:22:50.280 kind of smitten uh i was blown away that somebody could actually put forward these kinds of ideas in

00:22:55.960 modern canada uh nobody talks like this no one talks like this i'd heard reactionaries talk kind

00:23:02.040 of like this in a few different instances and i'd heard one or two progressives get here kind of

00:23:06.200 somewhat but this was somebody who was preaching the good word from her bully pulpit explaining in

00:23:10.920 in no uncertain terms how she was going to change the world and i had to give that credit where

00:23:14.780 credit was due and so it was interesting because i went up to her afterwards and i kind of rang her

00:23:18.960 hand like i was like i i like i went up to her and i was almost an instant fanboy to a point

00:23:23.640 and i was i grabbed her by the hand i was like you know like thank you so much for for coming

00:23:28.960 and speaking to us and she's like well thank you and she's like i don't think a lot of people are 0.92

00:23:32.160 paying attention i'm like no they weren't like i mean these people all suck i mean they couldn't 0.98

00:23:36.440 even hear me they were so busy looking into their phones and they do suck and i need to be clear 0.97

00:23:40.760 about that again if you're left of center and you're watching this broadcast if you're one of

00:23:44.060 these people that just wants to get a job in communications or some other nonsensical department

00:23:50.060 of your local municipality or your local provincial government or the feds and really what it is is

00:23:56.300 you just want to work for the liberal party the ndp party you just you just want to sloth and

00:24:00.160 slump and and slouch and be kind of slovenly and just do do a thing you get paid to do that it

00:24:05.500 doesn't really matter if you show up or not and what you're doing doesn't matter and you know it

00:24:08.700 doesn't matter but you want to be there because you need to get paid because you don't want to

00:24:12.100 starve to death and you don't really have any principles and you don't really care if public

00:24:15.580 and medicine stays public as long as you're not paying for it and you don't really care about the

00:24:19.040 poor as long as they're not on your street and you don't really care about anybody or anything

00:24:23.600 and you just care about netflix and you don't even bother praying to a god and feeling guilty about

00:24:28.260 what you're doing yeah you're you're a waste of a lot of things you're a waste of a terrible amount 0.86

00:24:33.400 of things i hope that your soul is compelled to turn to back to the truth and back to the gospel

00:24:38.980 and and honestly that that you learn that you know we are made for one another and we have to we have

00:24:45.420 to help one another and just because you have a little orange button or a little red button or

00:24:50.960 you know whatever kind of symbol you're using to try and show that you're a virtuous person

00:24:55.920 uh you're not you're not you're a sinner like the rest of us and particularly uh in your case it's 0.84

00:25:02.560 bad news because you're very unaware of it because you think that your participation in a nothingism 0.99

00:25:06.840 is going to help anybody and it's not and so yeah i'm here to tell you that that's garbage and it 0.60

00:25:12.440 doesn't work at all and you need to get out of there and you need to get involved with actually

00:25:18.600 just i don't know feeding someone on the street or actually just you know maybe asking some patients

00:25:23.640 at your local hospital hey how is the care around here what would you change if you could

00:25:26.860 uh maybe it's your school board right i think mark stein said that way we're always trying to

00:25:31.420 save the planet right liberals and socialists are always trying to save the planet try saving your

00:25:35.000 school board try saving your neighborhood that's that would be my recommendation to you standing

00:25:40.780 in solidarity and getting paid to stand in solidarity with a bunch of people who look

00:25:46.120 like they belong in a diversity poster while you do nothing and have a meeting about nothing and

00:25:51.840 no good results of it you are part of the problem harsha was not one of those people at least not

00:25:58.440 when i met her and that's not saying that i even agree with what she's doing certainly didn't agree

00:26:02.780 with what she just said but what i am saying is that harsha came off as somebody who was not

00:26:08.600 interested in having meetings for the sake of meetings or getting paid for the sake of getting

00:26:12.080 paid she sounded she sounded like a straight up revolutionary who is interested in changing the 0.99

00:26:17.860 world and that was where i i must admit that i was very intellectually just smitten just like wow i

00:26:25.220 can't believe that someone would actually say this in Canada. Nobody says this in Canada. Nobody

00:26:28.960 makes points like this in Canada anymore. And so nobody has that kind of rhetoric anymore.

00:26:34.780 And it's very rare on the right as well. So I go up to her, I shake her hand, and she's kind of

00:26:41.540 stunned that somebody was actually bothering to listen to her. I think she's getting tired of

00:26:45.060 giving these kinds of speeches and whatever. This is a few years back. It was back in 2016.

00:26:50.420 team. And

00:26:52.460 I just

00:26:54.720 appreciate so much you coming to talk to us

00:26:56.640 and whatever else. I completely disagree

00:26:58.560 with you because I'm

00:27:00.760 a conservative. But I really appreciate

00:27:02.640 and really respect that you came and spoke to us and that

00:27:04.560 the energy you had. And she's just

00:27:06.220 blown away. She's like, you're a conservative?

00:27:08.800 I'm like, well, yeah.

00:27:10.660 I'm a conservative. She's like, what are you doing

00:27:12.640 here? This is like, you know, like I'm

00:27:14.660 left wing of these guys, but the rest of these guys

00:27:16.640 are, you know, pretty left wing. I'm like,

00:27:18.600 well, I'm here because I'm a student.

00:27:20.420 Well, not a student union president, but a chairman, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:27:23.200 Explained to her why I'm here.

00:27:24.720 And she's like, well, if you believe some of these things you're talking about, we had a back and forth.

00:27:28.280 If you believe some of the things you're talking about, why are you conservative?

00:27:31.800 And I'm going to tell you guys, all of you who are listening right now and watching,

00:27:36.200 the reason to be a conservative or the reason that I'm a conservative, I'm not even a libertarian.

00:27:41.620 I'm not a radical in many respects.

00:27:43.500 I can be kind of reactionary when I get angry and whatever, but I am a conservative.

00:27:47.380 and you know what the difference is between a conservative and everybody else really is at the

00:27:52.540 end of the day they know it's the end of the day and you have to let you have to let you have to

00:27:57.480 go pick up the wounded and you have to crack open a cold one you have to sit back and enjoy your you

00:28:02.320 know enjoy your spot in life and have some leisure and spend time with your family and it's not about

00:28:07.560 the next rally it's not about the next meeting it's not about the next agenda it's about people

00:28:13.080 it's about human beings after the fray after the melee after everything's over

00:28:18.320 right after the battle there comes a time there's a time for peace and there's a time for war

00:28:22.840 and and there's a time for mourning there's a time for dancing it's a time for sadness a time

00:28:26.820 for gladness that's what it is that's what conservatism is fundamentally conservatism is

00:28:31.780 a embracing of the fact that we are human beings and we are we need to improvement we're sinners

00:28:37.280 and we're not perfectible but at the same time we're also not machines and humanity requires

00:28:44.000 that we that we give space to that diversity of opinion at least to go exist over there

00:28:55.240 or over here or to compartmentalize things a little bit and to create some

00:28:59.580 some demilitarized zones in life not everything is a fight not everything's a battle and in the

00:29:08.760 conservative circles that i walk in i at least i said it to harsh it this way she's like why 1.00

00:29:14.420 are you conservative i was like you know what because they leave me alone

00:29:19.640 they leave me alone

00:29:25.560 you can't we can't fight battles every day all day non-stop i mean life is a battle those of us

00:29:38.240 who are christians and and even those of us who aren't christians i'm sure the different face put

00:29:42.460 it in a different way life's a struggle life is suffering life has many difficulties in it

00:29:46.740 and we have to meet that with with honor with virtue we have to meet death as virtuously as

00:29:51.720 we can. And we have to die to our selfishness every day. And we have to meet the challenges of

00:29:56.880 the day with charity and humility. But at the same time, we also have to give that space for

00:30:04.880 for a human element. And, and I said that to Harsh, I said, I am a conservative, because at

00:30:10.600 least for all of my own radical ideas of, you know, maybe we need to do something about the

00:30:14.600 housing market, and maybe labor should have something benefit to it. And maybe we should 0.99

00:30:19.000 find a way to help you know every woman who wants to stay at home and have a family they should be

00:30:23.460 supported in that and every man who wants to go to work and support his family should be able to do

00:30:28.540 that maybe that's maybe that's the kingdom of heaven maybe it's that simple but and for some

00:30:35.080 of my radical ideas around that stuff the thing is that when i get into arguments with conservatives

00:30:39.000 at least at the end of it the argument ends and they leave me alone and they don't cancel me and

00:30:43.960 they don't fight me and they don't find me and they don't try to root me out of my home and they

00:30:47.340 try to dismiss me from my work and they did that and she she admitted to me in that moment she's

00:30:56.380 like yeah no i understand that it can be really exhausting really exhausting being in this battle

00:31:02.220 all the time i'm like yeah that's why i'm not here i'm not i'm not left wing i have some i have some

00:31:06.860 pretty radical ideas sometimes i completely admit that i got called a socialist on this show not too

00:31:10.860 long ago but when it came to what was going on with harsha uh she admitted that no you know what

00:31:18.060 on the left we got we do exhaust people we exhaust people because it's just how

00:31:22.800 just how exhausting that can be all right well we've talked a little bit about the church burning

00:31:28.840 stuff we've explained a little bit about not necessarily my relationship with harsha but but

00:31:32.580 i i mean i did meet her you know a couple of times and well that one time we had a good discussion so

00:31:37.960 uh wanted to bring you guys up to speed on that let's walk through some of this other stuff so

00:31:43.180 residential school survivors call for an end to arson tax on churches let's get into that that's

00:31:51.600 an interesting complicated idea we are going to kick that from the stream stop screen we're going

00:31:56.780 to grab our share screen and all right now i'm just uh i'm gonna

00:32:03.640 i'm gonna prayer everybody i am sorry that i'm about to do this to you you know that i hate

00:32:13.880 using this source we all hate this source but it's the only source we have right now so we're

00:32:20.520 going to go to the cbc i know i know it's a crime worse than any other crime that's ever been

00:32:29.580 committed against humanity but uh that's not true i know that's that's a terrible over exaggeration

00:32:35.900 but but the cbc is a crime against humanity and it ranks up there with some some of the worst

00:32:40.280 crimes against humanity so at least we're going to take a moment here and we're going to take a

00:32:46.000 look at what's going on here and see what's happening so whoever is doing this you're going

00:32:50.800 to wake up a very ugly evil spirit in this country as survival ones so group of residential school 1.00

00:32:56.540 survivors is calling yeah i guess a group is singular for an end to arson attacks on churches

00:33:03.240 after several catholic and anguages were vandalized or damaged by fire following the

00:33:06.980 repeated discovery of unmarked graves at former residential school sites in british columbia and

00:33:11.840 Saskatchewan. During a news

00:33:13.780 conference Monday, residential

00:33:15.800 school survivor Jesse Malcolm condemned the

00:33:17.660 vandalism while fighting back tears. It's not

00:33:19.620 going to bring back anybody, she 0.97

00:33:21.600 said. Jean Allen Riley, a

00:33:23.640 60th Scoop survivor and the daughter of residential 0.94

00:33:25.500 school survivors, said the acts of vandalism

00:33:27.560 are showing discard between Indigenous people and the rest

00:33:29.700 of Canada. Burning down churches is not

00:33:31.680 in solidarity with us Indigenous people.

00:33:34.120 Whoever is doing this, you're going to wake

00:33:35.700 up on a very ugly, eagle

00:33:37.500 spirit in this country. The Truth and Reconciliation

00:33:39.740 Committee

00:33:40.360 included a demand for a formal apology from the

00:33:43.580 Catholic Church. While the Church has yet to

00:33:45.480 issue an apology, Indigenous leaders are set to meet with Pope

00:33:47.560 Francis in Vatican in December. That's true.

00:33:49.640 I did look that up. That is true. That is going to

00:33:51.520 happen. Pope Benedict expressed

00:33:53.360 sorrow

00:33:53.860 back in 2009.

00:33:58.520 But Indigenous leaders have 0.99

00:33:59.520 called to go further by apology and ask

00:34:01.400 for forgiveness on the Church's behalf.

00:34:03.540 The Catholic Church is the only institution that has not yet

00:34:05.380 made a formal apology for its part of running residential

00:34:07.320 schools in Canada, although Catholic

00:34:09.060 going to kind of have apologized that's that's an interesting idea let's stop there for a second

00:34:14.120 so i'm a devout i i'm a devout roman cat like oh i'm delayed am i

00:34:18.560 is that better does that sound better it must sound better because well that's the way that

00:34:38.900 always fix it the other time so we're going to go back into chrome tab we're going to go back

00:34:42.500 into the residential school survivor thing oh i put this on silent i did not okay

00:34:54.100 so um let's get into this whole thing thank you sheldon yeah thank you sheldon thank you chris

00:35:02.420 thanks guys so let's let's get into this whole thing uh

00:35:09.780 let's get into this whole thing yeah you guys can always tell me when things are going wrong

00:35:15.200 technically i don't i'm not going to be offended by it like this is all i'll be honest with you

00:35:18.800 like i mean uh aaron was getting after me the other day he's like wow you really ran out of

00:35:23.520 things to talk about hey you turned off the green screen started pointing out where all the lights

00:35:27.440 are and stuff took away all the mystery i like like look man like maybe i did run out of things

00:35:31.400 to say but i also just wanted i it's all smoke and mirrors and i have no problem doing like you

00:35:37.320 know the pretentious i'm on tv guy thing but i think it's important for you guys to know what

00:35:42.760 is happening over here and so to put to put it as bluntly as possible uh we have a whole bunch of uh

00:35:51.240 yeah no of course that's what the cbc is putting up there we're gonna get rid of that can we get

00:35:55.000 get rid of that yeah we can thank god okay that was nonsense um we we have we've got a camera in

00:36:01.880 front of me we've got lights everywhere and whatever else but the speaking of the sound

00:36:05.040 being delayed like i mean the sound is bouncing through like three different things to try and

00:36:09.040 make sure that we have live sound and live audio i think the simplest thing would probably be if we

00:36:13.500 use the microphone things that are on the camera uh to do everything but it that but then we would

00:36:19.220 need a pretty high quality microphone then we had to do this and we have to do that there's a lot of

00:36:22.820 pieces moving pieces all i know is that i couldn't do anything without my producer i love my producer

00:36:27.200 very much he does a lot of hard work here and if i didn't have him like this would be just doomed

00:36:32.000 totally doomed so let's walk through a little bit more on the residential school stuff here

00:36:36.500 oh right i was going to get into the roman catholic thing look so i'm a roman catholic

00:36:40.280 i'm a convert actually and i'm also a person of of indigenous descent if you want to say it that

00:36:47.840 way but really i am as a status indian that's what i am that's what it says on my card i am

00:36:52.620 status indian okay so i love my faith very much and i am completely aware of some of the things

00:37:01.980 that went wrong in the residential school system and someone might ask well how do you reconcile

00:37:06.300 those two things well i said well you know the same way you reconcile car accidents or bad cops

00:37:13.260 or you know bad leaders anywhere bad people anywhere right the fact of the matter is nobody

00:37:20.220 nobody thinks that everybody is corrupt and nobody thinks that every car is going to explode on them

00:37:27.580 and they can't get into the car you have to life takes a certain amount of faith at every step you

00:37:33.660 take right whether you're walking down a sidewalk nobody thinks as they're walking down a sidewalk

00:37:37.820 they're going to fall into a sinkhole and someday you might and that might be the end of it and

00:37:42.940 then somebody's going to get sued somewhere for not properly engineering that who knows and who

00:37:48.620 cares where that blame really ends in the end because it you're not going to get anything for

00:37:53.060 it and i think that's her point when it comes to you know it's not going to bring anybody back

00:37:57.140 burning down these churches but ultimately for me as a roman catholic my faith is extremely

00:38:02.800 important to me and i don't think my faith is inherently discriminatory i think some awful

00:38:08.000 people were involved with the residential schools not even all of them not even most of them but

00:38:14.080 there were some awful actors and those awful actors shouldn't have been in there and they 0.98

00:38:18.580 shouldn't have been moved around. They shouldn't have been hidden. They shouldn't have been shuffled.

00:38:23.200 And yet we do this everywhere. This happens everywhere. This happens in the office down

00:38:27.440 the street from you. This happens in the cubicle next to you. This happens to you at your church

00:38:31.980 or your Gerwar. This happens everywhere. This happens in your local police constabulary,

00:38:37.320 area if you want to call it that your local school there are bad actors everywhere but we don't burn

00:38:45.280 down the police station and the school and the office building right we we accept that there

00:38:55.260 are bad actors we want them investigated and prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent

00:39:00.260 of the law i have said on this show in no uncertain terms that i believe in capital punishment for

00:39:05.720 crimes against children absolutely not a question but this is where we're at

00:39:14.520 right this is where we're at so

00:39:21.240 i i guess the simplest thing on my end when it comes to kind of the roman catholicism thing and

00:39:33.980 the ugly spirit they're waking up in this country that's actually something i'm going to get into

00:39:37.880 in a moment here let's read a little further on um prime minister finally condemned it on the

00:39:43.480 churches that took several days for that to happen it's a shame indeed something that will prevent

00:39:49.340 people's solace it's not the way forward topping of two statues queen victoria and one of queen

00:39:56.420 elizabeth uh the manitoba legislature on thursday that's where that's where louis real is on the

00:40:01.820 other side on the riverside i understand your anger uh we need to move forward as a community

00:40:07.200 and that's the end of that interesting i will stop streaming uh cbc for a moment so that we can all

00:40:14.900 just uh we can all recover from the trauma of uh of having to look at cbc i know i know it causes a

00:40:24.700 lot of trauma but but we survived we survived together don't worry it hurts me too um

00:40:31.540 one of the things i'm going to try and get into in my column this week is this whole question of

00:40:38.320 the church burning stuff and and some of the nuances there so i'm going to do a couple of

00:40:42.600 hot takes here and and let's kind of roll it all into one as best we can so

00:40:49.220 my understanding is that the burning of churches today has nothing to do with what happened even

00:40:57.740 100 years ago uh in those residential schools necessarily it's not as direct as people think

00:41:02.700 it is i think there's a couple of different factors there one of the biggest ones is that

00:41:07.020 did you know that from 2001 to today so that's 20 years ago now that's right september 11th 2001 to

00:41:13.820 today there's been far more violence committed against christians and christian churches and

00:41:19.500 christian houses of worship than against any other faith uh minus the uyghur muslims inside of inside 1.00

00:41:27.580 of uh china and of course some of the ethnic cleansing that went on in again the rest of the 0.65

00:41:32.700 southeastern part of asia as well so but as a general point and certainly the thing that gets

00:41:38.620 the most publicity not because it you know not just because oh they own the stations or whatever

00:41:42.940 but because of of the wanted destruction and violence that followed christian sex especially 0.99

00:41:48.620 throughout the middle east and certainly into some of northern africa uh the the fact of the

00:41:55.180 matter is that ever since 2001 it's not mosques that are getting burned and i'm not saying they

00:41:59.580 should be but it's not mosques it's not it's not that's not how it is at all it's it's chartres

00:42:07.500 it's it's it's these churches in canada it's the churches throughout europe that have also been

00:42:13.020 attacked and the churches especially in the middle east and what's interesting about that is that at

00:42:19.420 the same time that christian churches have been attacked throughout the world anti-religious

00:42:24.540 sentiment went up through the roof through the roof uh since 2001 and so it's interesting so

00:42:32.380 that blame didn't get placed really at the feet of the wahhabism that created that because again 0.98

00:42:36.700 i don't think that i don't think that islam is to blame for what happened i think that it i think

00:42:41.740 that a radical faction of the wahhabis got in there and they managed to get a hold of a couple

00:42:47.100 of planes and do some really big damage and psychologically scar the world the last 20 years

00:42:52.220 um and that was rough but and wrong and and i'm glad i'm glad that most of the perpetrators or

00:43:00.680 planners of that crime were hunted down and killed but the the thing is that that anti-religious

00:43:08.240 sentiment started to pervade the planet and then what followed was people uh began to visit their

00:43:16.420 vengeance upon whomever they could get their hands on and a lot of that was christian churches

00:43:21.360 First in the Middle East, North Africa, et cetera,

00:43:24.060 and then even into Europe and now into Canada.

00:43:27.080 And so what I think is really interesting is that,

00:43:29.300 oh yeah, absolutely, this has to do

00:43:32.300 with the whole residential school narrative

00:43:33.820 that's going around.

00:43:34.880 But there's something deeper than that.

00:43:36.520 And that is for 20 years,

00:43:39.120 Christianity has kind of been on the run

00:43:40.920 throughout the planet.

00:43:42.300 It's submitted to China.

00:43:43.760 It's not standing up for its rights in China.

00:43:45.920 It's not keeping up with the underground church in China.

00:43:48.340 It's allowed the Chinese Communist Party to infiltrate or affect the church.

00:43:53.220 It's not standing for its values.

00:43:55.640 It's not doing a good job of finding, condemning, and punishing those who perpetrate crimes against minors, against others.

00:44:04.700 It's looking really illegitimate these days.

00:44:07.800 It's not looking big, bold, and tough.

00:44:10.420 Its members look complacent.

00:44:13.600 They don't look like the people who used to take their Fridays seriously with fasting and take Lent serious with fasting and even the pre-Lenten weeks with fasting.

00:44:24.240 Fasting, prayer, and almsgiving are the weapons of the church.

00:44:27.120 That's what Christ taught us.

00:44:28.660 And I think that the church in general is failing to meet those standards.

00:44:34.540 And so it's no wonder then, in a sense, that it's earned the contempt it has and it looks weak.

00:44:41.880 if you earn someone's contempt and you look like something they can just kick around 0.98

00:44:46.580 they'll kick you around that's that's a basic fact of life i shouldn't this this shouldn't be

00:44:51.760 news to anybody and i think that's a huge part of it the church has exhibited itself

00:44:59.760 as someone who can just just be kicked around and told off and done whatever to and the biggest

00:45:06.580 signifier for that again forget i'm not even saying that it wasn't that those things didn't

00:45:11.420 inspire this yes the human remains found are a direct correlation to what's going on here but

00:45:17.480 deeper than that right because we have to think about like committing violence like think about

00:45:22.200 what it would take for you to really think to yourself no you know what i'm gonna go blow

00:45:25.440 something up like really like think about that like think about what it would take for you to

00:45:29.100 do that and one of the things that would take for you to do this think well i i need to know how

00:45:32.900 that entity or institution or person treats themselves and whether or not they're even

00:45:37.380 vulnerable to an attack that i would make and you know what i think the pandemic and the lockdowns

00:45:44.980 the fact that so many churches just folded and closed just didn't didn't even try to stay open

00:45:50.100 didn't fight the government didn't fight uh for their fundamental liberties you know speaking of

00:45:55.280 civil liberties i was just talking about harsha it's they didn't fight for it and

00:46:02.120 who wouldn't want to denigrate 1.00

00:46:06.700 a weak, contemptible

00:46:09.280 institution that doesn't

00:46:11.500 that isn't standing up in its own two feet

00:46:14.620 that isn't defending its place in the world

00:46:16.300 it isn't standing up as the bride of Christ 0.99

00:46:18.740 it's down in the dirt saying

00:46:21.100 well, I'm sorry for myself

00:46:22.820 but at the same time I don't apologize

00:46:24.720 for some of the things that happened

00:46:25.840 but also I don't really care

00:46:29.160 and I'm not going to treat myself any better than this

00:46:31.320 and I'm going to put on this mud on my face like I'm putting on makeup.

00:46:37.400 If the church treats itself that way and doesn't stand up with pride and ardor

00:46:42.500 and have some gumption and some pride, some self-assurance,

00:46:51.580 some confidence and magnanimity in its role and place in the world,

00:46:56.660 it's going to get abused.

00:46:58.420 it you can't you can't let yourself retreat that way it's not even turning the other cheek it's

00:47:08.760 not turning the other cheek if you're just face down in the mud you're just getting kicked while 0.82

00:47:12.340 you're down turning the other cheek requires that you are strong enough to have taken the first smack

00:47:18.100 and you offer them the second cheek to see how strong they think they are just kicking somebody

00:47:23.580 around and you're looking them right in the right in the eye you know and you're showing them

00:47:28.800 exactly who you are and what you are and that they're striking another human being they're

00:47:33.800 striking a brother right they're striking somebody who shares you know the same dna as them that's

00:47:38.340 that's what's going on there that's the strength of that of that push back through that turning

00:47:45.960 of the other cheek just being face down in the mud crying to yourself while simultaneously making

00:47:50.840 proclamations about whatever that the people

00:47:54.860 around you can't understand, that's not going to get you anywhere. And I think that's kind of part of it

00:47:58.820 when it comes to the church. I have a great deal of respect for

00:48:02.900 the church. I'm a pretty traditionalist Catholic, but I really

00:48:06.800 think that a lot of the scorn that's being visited upon the church right now

00:48:11.100 is its own making.

00:48:14.320 It doesn't seem like a strong, vibrant place

00:48:18.560 that that who would dare who would dare try and burn down a church who would dare offend mother

00:48:24.900 church who would dare trespass her uh who would who would do anything but you know

00:48:31.840 have have respect and adoration and some and some kind of awesome awesome fear the old way

00:48:39.760 of understanding awesome right awesome right to be full of awe uh towards the bride of christ

00:48:46.920 And the church has, I think, lost this grip on itself, and she's lost.

00:48:56.920 And so I think that's where a lot of this negativity is coming from, and how easily the church can be beaten up and dismissed.

00:49:04.540 That's where it's coming from.

00:49:06.400 These people fear no repercussion.

00:49:08.620 Why would they fear repercussion?

00:49:10.920 The church wouldn't fight for itself when the government came along and locked its doors for it.

00:49:16.920 every single church in this country,

00:49:19.360 had they just told the government,

00:49:20.840 ah, nah.

00:49:23.460 You know?

00:49:27.480 You know, we'll be fine.

00:49:29.920 Everything will be fine.

00:49:35.460 It's not true.

00:49:42.980 It's not true.

00:49:44.660 Everything won't be fine.

00:49:46.920 And we need to be we need to be honest with ourselves about that, that what happened with with Mother Church and and the pandemic and the lockdowns and ever since 2001, let alone all those things.

00:49:59.780 And Patricia, Patricia brings up a good point here.

00:50:03.380 Grace Life Church.

00:50:05.120 Yeah, no, Grace Life Church fought its corner.

00:50:08.520 I had a lot of respect for what Grace Life Church was doing.

00:50:11.560 but

00:50:13.640 if everybody had been Grace Life Church

00:50:18.340 we wouldn't be where we are now

00:50:19.580 and

00:50:23.300 as an aside here

00:50:27.640 I should mention that

00:50:30.440 at one point

00:50:32.420 at one point

00:50:35.800 we were going to go

00:50:39.000 well not we were going to go

00:50:41.240 we went me and some people that i know uh actually me and my beloved this is how me and my beloved

00:50:47.920 got together actually um we've taken a swing at each other a couple of times and it didn't

00:50:52.400 didn't really work out but in the second lockdown uh we both knew that this was complete bs and we

00:51:00.080 needed to do something about it so we went outside of our church and it's funny right again if you

00:51:04.580 had told me six months ago that you know how you were outside the church protesting their lack of

00:51:09.880 action on the lockdown yeah six months from now there will be a bunch of people protesting outside

00:51:13.440 the church about the lack of action on the on the issues around residential schools and again that

00:51:19.360 stuff's up for debate and it's a lot more nuanced than people want to want to agree but what what's

00:51:27.660 mind-boggling is that there we were me and my beloved and we were saying rosary outside the

00:51:34.120 church and and the church is reversed its position on this but at one point you know the leadership

00:51:40.720 of the church basically told us that you know and before we even got there when we informed them

00:51:46.720 this would happen that you know this is like we might have to call the cops on you and we don't

00:51:50.780 want we don't want any trouble we don't want any trouble because you're you know if you're causing

00:51:55.040 problems for the church we might have to ask the police to remove you for just praying on the steps 1.00

00:52:00.760 of the church basically well really we were in the parking lot but praying on the steps of the church

00:52:04.580 and

00:52:06.560 we were trying to fight on the same side as the church and the church

00:52:17.200 all but took up the position of the wolves and in sheep's clothing that they

00:52:30.760 they had been locked down they had been abused they had been told by the rulers of this world

00:52:36.680 who care nothing for the next who don't even go to church anymore that they needed to close their

00:52:41.840 doors and a lot of churches willingly just yep and just did it without asking asking anything

00:52:49.160 or having a second thought and we have to understand that that crushed the spirits of a lot of people

00:52:57.700 and that thing that crushed your spirit then all of a sudden is now also the perpetrator

00:53:06.320 of some of these crimes i don't see it that way i don't think that's how it is

00:53:10.920 those individuals need to answer their crimes anybody that protected those individuals need

00:53:16.460 to answer for their crimes but the churches yeah claudette put it well most churches bow

00:53:26.440 to the government no one stands for their principles anymore except for the few dedicated

00:53:31.640 and of course patricia has put this up there a few times i will die on my feet before i live on my

00:53:36.040 knees well and of course for those of us who are more religious the dying on your feet happens

00:53:44.840 because you prayed on your knees if if i might extend that quote just a little bit not trying to

00:53:49.160 edit what patricia's trying to say i think she's right but it's that time spent on your knees in

00:53:54.360 prayer that gives you the ability to to stand on your feet when you're you're being persecuted

00:54:01.880 but the i think that it's really important for us to understand just how abandoned people felt

00:54:09.320 in that moment i'll abandon those of us who are trying to be faithful to to the church felt and

00:54:18.440 you watch you watch that complacency and that complicity with the lockdown

00:54:24.360 That's not a problem, Patricia.

00:54:29.020 You realize that complacency and that lack of effort

00:54:32.700 and that lack of truth and that lack of honesty

00:54:34.900 and that our forebears and our martyrs,

00:54:43.140 they were killed for the faith,

00:54:44.420 they were carried away in chains

00:54:45.740 and many people in the church hierarchy

00:54:48.200 weren't even willing to go in handcuffs

00:54:49.920 in the back of a comfortable cruiser

00:54:51.580 to go and sit in a comfortable jail

00:54:54.260 and be fed three square meals a day

00:54:55.820 to go sit in a comfortable courtroom

00:54:57.460 and then make their case.

00:54:59.140 They weren't willing to do it.

00:55:02.380 And a lot of us faithful

00:55:03.820 weren't willing to do it either.

00:55:07.140 And that crushed a lot of people's spirits.

00:55:12.700 And so you see this weak entity,

00:55:15.100 this old institution,

00:55:16.700 this thing that is supposedly

00:55:19.980 the most beautiful creature on earth, right?

00:55:23.520 is is the church right that's the idea right the most beautiful creature on earth is the church

00:55:30.480 it's supposed to emulate the maker of the world the savior of the world to bring his truth and

00:55:36.320 love everywhere that's the idea and that entity that body of people are so divided

00:55:44.320 so hypocritical and so lacking in inconsistency

00:55:49.440 nobody can nobody can agree with them anymore nobody can support them anymore 0.95

00:55:58.040 and i i can understand how that might inspire violence and anger in people when all of a sudden

00:56:06.000 on top of all of that what happened in the pandemic let alone what's been going on since 2001

00:56:10.880 this other thing from decades past comes to light

00:56:13.860 and all of a sudden there's violence

00:56:16.440 now

00:56:18.980 that's enough of me laying it on kind of thick

00:56:22.840 to my own church and my own faith

00:56:24.700 I'm going to pivot now and I'm going to explain something to anybody who might be listening

00:56:28.280 who thinks that it might be a good idea

00:56:29.920 or that in any way that somehow I have any sympathy

00:56:33.600 for what's going on with the burning of churches

00:56:36.360 but

00:56:39.840 I need to be very clear

00:56:42.260 about something and this is an important

00:56:44.260 point for anybody out there who thinks

00:56:46.340 again just referring that

00:56:47.800 CBC article to a point

00:56:49.480 they're talking about how you're not standing

00:56:52.240 in solidarity with indigenous people

00:56:54.140 if you

00:56:55.240 if you burn down church

00:56:58.160 and they're right about that because

00:57:00.020 most indigenous people

00:57:01.880 if you want to use that term most of us

00:57:04.280 Indians are

00:57:05.780 christians thanks to the conversion and what happened through colonization and i for one i'm

00:57:12.460 happy to be a christian because i've heard some of the theology or whatever spirituality of the

00:57:17.900 old ways that things were for us indians before the white man got here and i gotta be honest with

00:57:23.040 you i don't want any of that because i don't want no final judgment i don't want there to be no

00:57:29.640 no clear line between heaven and hell and that sort of thing i like that idea i like some clarity

00:57:35.060 I like the rules that come with the faith.

00:57:37.000 I'm pretty happy that we got into Western Christian ideas

00:57:41.860 and left behind the paganism of yesteryear.

00:57:45.520 Nothing wrong with, you know, I don't know,

00:57:47.920 trying to keep some traditions alive and whatever.

00:57:51.020 But I don't miss the pagan faith, and I'm glad that I don't live that. 1.00

00:57:55.740 I'm glad that that's not my legacy, and it's not my heritage.

00:57:59.520 Well, not my heritage today, not the thing that I want to keep going.

00:58:02.440 but i will say this to anybody and everybody out there who is thinking to themselves hey you know

00:58:10.280 what this whole church burning thing's going really well i should burn a church too or i bet

00:58:14.680 you i could get more more fellow natives on side and whatever else more of my fellow whoever on side

00:58:21.800 uh to to help burn the churches or or this will help inspire solidarity or more violence

00:58:28.900 More violence would get me more people on my side because we're the same skin color and because we're the same ethnicity and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

00:58:37.740 So I'm going to explain something to you in no uncertain terms.

00:58:41.880 We're definitely talking about increasing security around here at some of the churches.

00:58:45.880 I've definitely volunteered to help with that.

00:58:48.080 And I need to tell you in no uncertain terms that if I came around a corner and I found you with a bunch of spray paint or a bunch of matches and gasoline, clearly about to try and commit a felony against Mother Church, let alone private property, you are not going to get a good time from me.

00:59:09.740 and I'm not going to show you any mercy or quarter

00:59:12.320 just because you happen to be the same skin color as me

00:59:15.340 or you supposedly come from a disadvantaged place,

00:59:17.840 la-di-da-di-da.

00:59:18.980 The fact of the matter is

00:59:20.320 that you are willfully committing a crime

00:59:22.920 and you're committing a crime against the thing

00:59:26.360 that I hold most dear.

00:59:28.560 My beloved, literally, my fiance, my future wife,

00:59:33.560 is second only to the church and the faith

00:59:37.860 and the God that she represents.

00:59:40.640 That's it.

00:59:42.220 God, my faith,

00:59:44.160 mother church, then her,

00:59:46.480 then eventually the kids.

00:59:48.180 That's how it is. Funny fact, it's the

00:59:50.100 same way for her too. So when I

00:59:51.980 tell you that if I find

00:59:54.300 you about to

00:59:56.100 commit a felony or crime or violence

00:59:58.280 against my faith

00:59:59.940 in its physical form, which we call

01:00:01.920 the church,

01:00:03.420 you will be shown no quarter.

01:00:07.860 That's the nicest way I can say it.

01:00:09.840 You will be shown no corner.

01:00:10.860 If I have the opportunity to apprehend you, I will apprehend you.

01:00:14.420 I will put you under citizen's arrest. 0.98

01:00:16.680 And I will make sure that you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

01:00:20.420 And if you personally injure me whatsoever during that altercation,

01:00:23.880 I will then civilly sue you myself.

01:00:26.620 I will put your name up here on the board.

01:00:29.020 I will make sure that you have no privacy.

01:00:30.640 And I will make sure that you and your community know exactly who you are

01:00:33.880 and what kind of person you are.

01:00:35.000 because you tried to do that unspeakable, unforgivable thing.

01:00:41.120 You tried to commit an act of violence.

01:00:47.840 I mean, people live in that church, right?

01:00:49.260 They live right next to it.

01:00:50.160 They could easily be killed.

01:00:52.640 And you tried, you visited upon those who were innocent

01:00:57.000 the angers and crimes of those who were not.

01:01:01.500 that's the unforgivable thing

01:01:05.260 violence begets violence

01:01:06.640 and if we get into a point

01:01:08.780 where people

01:01:09.420 where I have to pay for the sins of my father

01:01:13.200 and my father's father

01:01:14.280 when I had nothing to do with what they did

01:01:17.200 we are

01:01:20.440 we will never survive

01:01:24.060 life will just become endless chaos

01:01:26.560 and endless violence

01:01:27.360 somebody has to put the stop somewhere

01:01:29.240 do you want the church to to fess up to the things that happened do you have a right to be angry do

01:01:36.960 you want me personally you know if you want to put down the gas at the matches and you want to walk

01:01:42.000 right up to me and you want to scream at me personally for what happened go ahead fine

01:01:47.200 that makes sense but make make no mistake you will be shown no quarter if i am the one who

01:01:58.660 finds you so don't bother don't come don't call right or better come have a real conversation

01:02:10.760 with somebody and really express your anger and explain a no uncertain terms don't go sneaking

01:02:16.780 around at 3 a.m with with a jerry can and you know a bic lighter

01:02:21.660 come talk to someone in the morning in the afternoon come knock on the priest's door

01:02:30.920 and tell him how angry you are

01:02:34.120 send an email go to a rally and and cry about the things that happened they had that i was i told

01:02:45.020 you guys about that the other week we we went out to the smithers me and my fiance and uh

01:02:49.740 and and on our way out there we were just going to pop into rose prince and

01:02:54.780 say hello uh which is uh someone who's never been elevated to sainthood but she's an

01:03:00.980 uncorruptible uh but but uh there were people there and and it was kind of nerve-wracking i

01:03:09.160 mean we're the only ones not wearing the every child matters orange shirt thing and we're the

01:03:12.800 only ones not not doing all this other stuff but uh we just walked in i walked to where the

01:03:22.340 gravesite is and we prayed uh i think we prayed divine mercy and that's it and then we walked

01:03:30.360 away and i will say this you can call you can call various people cowards all you want but

01:03:35.300 there was a priest who was there i saw him i recognized him and we walked up to him we greeted

01:03:40.180 him we said hello and he he was there to try and be in solidarity with his flock as best he could

01:03:46.740 it was the old residential school site it was lejack

01:03:51.860 he was just trying to show that he cared too and he was sorry too for the bad things that had

01:03:58.980 happened and could you imagine what happened would happen if he had gotten up you know been attacked

01:04:04.580 by somebody there he's just there trying to show that he is sorry too and i i feared for his safety

01:04:12.240 i it didn't seem like a violent event or anything i just feared for a save i just thought to myself

01:04:16.640 this is i'm pretty sure before the first church burning just before and i just sitting there

01:04:21.920 thinking to myself like man like that's a brave guy that's a really brave guy he is here and he

01:04:30.020 is just trying to minister to the people around him he's not even preaching now he's not doing

01:04:33.920 I think he's just there. He still had his collar on. He had the orange shirt on. He was walking around. And I gained a huge amount of respect for that guy that day.

01:04:44.460 so no i i think it's important to make it clear and i think this is where the church should have

01:04:55.100 been on day one of the pandemic i think it's what the church should have been when all those 1.00

01:04:59.240 churches were being burned in iraq i think it's where the church should have been 1.00

01:05:02.020 the day after september 11th said no i'm sorry i understand that everybody's angry but we are

01:05:09.600 not going to perpetuate anger and have have churches burned and have anti-religious sentiment

01:05:15.200 built they're going to stop that nonsense right now and we are going to do that which has to be

01:05:23.900 done which is we are going to build a better world by acting with conscience with charity

01:05:31.720 with humility that's how so there's one other historical point i'd like to raise here before

01:05:39.860 we leave this question and move on to uh some of the things that are happening with with the

01:05:44.520 governor general and the wildfires and the one last point i'd like to bring up is is the following

01:05:49.080 sorry headphones are making me itchy um

01:05:54.400 again to the question of solidarity among some of the aboriginals out there or people who maybe

01:06:03.800 are agitating for these church burnings and stuff i'm going to explain something to you

01:06:07.480 that's really important how did general wolf take quebec that is to say quebec city

01:06:16.760 he took quebec by using highland scots who were trained in mountain climbing mountaineering they

01:06:27.080 knew how to scramble up a cliff given that they were highlanders and he used them to go to the

01:06:31.980 rock face on the saint lawrence that the quebec uh you know the not the chateau but the fort right

01:06:39.000 the fort of quebec the walls of quebec right because quebec was built like a fortress

01:06:42.740 to scale those walls and infiltrate and get inside of Quebec City

01:06:50.340 and start the battle and manage to take Quebec City.

01:06:55.380 Now, there's a good chance, you know,

01:07:00.400 there's a good chance that most of those Highland Scots were Catholics.

01:07:06.400 A very good chance, because that was the difference

01:07:09.100 between Highland and Lowland Scot.

01:07:10.540 There were some Highland Scot who became Protestant, they became part of the Presbyterian of Scotland, which is what the Scottish National Church is Presbyterianism, which is a history I'm not even going to get into, because that's a very complicated list of things.

01:07:31.880 Maybe we'll talk to Stuart about it on Thursday, so that's a lot of stuff to get into at one.

01:07:35.900 um but what really needs to be understood here is that scots catholics helped take out french

01:07:46.220 catholics at the behest of a protestant king in england okay and from the reformation forward

01:07:54.160 in the english-speaking world most catholics outside of what happened in ireland we'll get

01:08:00.600 to that in a second most catholics were pretty conservative and they stuck with the order as it

01:08:06.560 was rather than bring in something radically new even when it meant that they were still going to

01:08:12.280 be treated as second-class citizens okay case in point being roundheads versus cavaliers right

01:08:19.440 and when cromwell finally gets thrown out and then you know the monarchy gets restored

01:08:26.380 Tory Catholicism

01:08:28.520 and for that matter

01:08:29.900 the kind of bizarre world

01:08:31.340 where Catholics

01:08:34.340 stand in solidarity

01:08:36.140 with the institutions

01:08:38.280 as they exist

01:08:39.100 or with the order

01:08:40.580 of the world as it exists

01:08:42.300 and remain conservative

01:08:43.960 remain small change people

01:08:46.160 is kind of the world

01:08:48.120 that I belong to

01:08:49.100 and I think it's important

01:08:50.160 for those of you out there

01:08:51.540 who think that this

01:08:52.620 burning of churches

01:08:54.440 is a way to inspire solidarity

01:08:55.820 I think there's a lot of Catholic Indians, to put it that way, Catholic First Nations, Catholic status, Catholic Inuit, Catholic Métis, a huge amount, a huge amount of the First Nations community is Catholic, certainly Christian.

01:09:12.660 But the history of both Christian, but especially Catholic minorities or whatever inside of majorities that aren't necessarily sharing their values or even against other supposedly minorities that are the same kind of category as them.

01:09:29.460 the history is that we stick with order and we stick with the institutions as they stand and we

01:09:36.200 stick with with even with a bad compromise a bad english king a bad a bad compromise we'd prefer

01:09:45.000 the bad compromise to the radically new one that could be so much worse and i think it's really

01:09:50.160 important for people to understand that there's a long history of that it goes back to quebec city

01:09:54.780 It goes back to the French Revolutionary War.

01:09:57.120 It goes back to the wars against Napoleon.

01:09:59.760 It goes back to the Civil War in the States.

01:10:02.620 It goes back to some of the choices that were made during the Irish Civil War,

01:10:07.340 let alone what happened in the two great wars of the 20th century and various other moments.

01:10:14.920 There is a long history of people who are part of the faith,

01:10:22.820 the Roman faith in particular, but the Christian faith in general, even when faced with someone who supposedly racially or culturally is in solidarity with them across the aisle, across the trenches, across no man's land, on the other side of that gun, the other side of the war.

01:10:40.560 the the western judeo-christian ethic has been no we stick with what we have we don't just

01:10:50.680 abandon whomever is on the throne today whomever is the president today we don't we don't abandon

01:10:55.680 it just for the sake of abandoning it we we need clear reasons why we would have such a radical

01:11:01.160 change and radical change often goes bad for us anyway so if we think we're getting a bad deal

01:11:06.060 now the radical change may not result in a good deal tomorrow so that was kind of my concluding

01:11:12.300 thought on that when it came to the question of the church burnings uh people people think that

01:11:17.260 they're standing in solidarity with other people they're not uh and you're you're literally playing

01:11:21.900 with fire and you're not just playing with fire it's very dangerous because you know what

01:11:29.260 we we don't have time for that there are people people people love their faith and

01:11:33.980 and they love their religion, and the destruction of it by other people supposedly trying to free

01:11:39.820 them from the opiate of the masses isn't going to make them happy. It's going to make them resentful.

01:11:47.920 So that was a bit of a tangent, but that's okay. We needed to kind of get through some of that

01:11:53.260 stuff. I'm just going to quickly take a look here. Wildfire that decimated BC town was likely

01:11:59.760 human cause yeah we'll do a quick uh jump over there we'll get out of the culture wars for a 0.97

01:12:03.680 second here talk a little bit about the wildfires um we're once again going to cdc i'm very sorry

01:12:15.040 uh let's uh let's try and suffer this as best we can hey look i could be one of those

01:12:20.160 it's an indigenous journalist i am already one of those i guess anyways uh still under investigation

01:12:29.760 so there's lytton yeah that's right next to the highway

01:12:36.680 yeah that's where that turnoff is yeah that's what i thought but i couldn't remember

01:12:41.600 the bc wildfire service says that the fire that burned through lytton bc last week resulting in

01:12:47.120 two deaths was likely human cause fire information officer did that uh came from within the village

01:12:53.820 a specific cause that remains under investigation it is suspected to be human cause the fire began

01:13:00.720 wednesday uh about 100 north east of vancouver ever seen canada consider it's 49 yeah it was

01:13:08.380 it was pretty hot down there uh very hot down there it's um it's a nasty nasty thing that

01:13:18.900 happened more than a thousand people fled the province said that includes most homes local

01:13:24.860 ambulance and rcmp detachment caused by humans rather than lighting common comments unattended

01:13:33.240 camera sparks power tools machinery weak infrastructure

01:13:35.700 sparks from trains can also cause fires right so when a train is breaking it causes

01:13:44.500 can cause sparks.

01:13:47.180 Fire was caused by passing

01:13:48.640 train response. Of course,

01:13:50.940 CN Rail, that is

01:13:52.700 that's, of course, not something they're going to admit to

01:13:54.740 because they don't want to pay for

01:13:56.160 Litton. I'm not saying they did it. I'm just saying

01:13:58.600 that's a thing.

01:14:01.640 And finally,

01:14:02.640 not received any

01:14:04.760 reports of railway comments related to the fire.

01:14:08.240 So

01:14:08.720 we're into

01:14:09.840 you know we're into the question of wildfires so i'm actually going to throw this out to the group

01:14:20.340 hold on i'll throw this out to the group um is there anybody here who thinks that the wildfires

01:14:30.420 are a direct cause of climate change i'm going to throw that out there because i'd like to hear

01:14:35.960 what kind of what is the pulse what is the sense of climate change inside of our group i

01:14:42.000 i'm going to level with you and tell you where i'm at when it comes to questions of global warming

01:14:46.960 climate change global cooling all the rest of it i'm number one the earth's climate changes and it

01:14:54.100 changes pretty much all the time but it especially changes uh through through cycles of up and down

01:15:00.480 right so one of the reasons why we have so many wonderful memories of the middle ages and so many

01:15:05.200 terrible memories of the 18th century right we had a lot of wars in the 18th century and into

01:15:09.800 the beginning of the 19th century uh and so late late 6th 17th into 18th and then early 19th century

01:15:17.820 there was some rough rough rough rough rough times um climate the climate is always changing

01:15:24.560 because we know that of the of the medieval warming period right they had like grapes in

01:15:30.000 england and like we have all these we have all these happy memories of of the medieval age not

01:15:34.680 not not without black death and all that other stuff but i mean like why why do we have such a 0.98

01:15:38.860 rich history from that time well that's because there was food and there was there was benefits

01:15:44.020 and there were people there were people running around doing things and like it was easier to live

01:15:47.740 because it couldn't freeze to death as much as you could only a couple centuries later so

01:15:52.560 you know and so we're getting a lot of comments here we're going to go to those

01:15:57.480 first i'll go on with my explanation a little bit here as patricia just straight up says no

01:16:02.300 i don't believe in climate change brings in another one climate is always changing remember

01:16:06.720 the dinosaurs david rashu says no doesn't believe in climate change as as climate change that we

01:16:14.160 mean kind of the narrative of today the narrative that we have today uh i find it foolishly we as

01:16:18.940 human cause the change and even more foolish that we can control it i would agree definitely with

01:16:23.320 The second part, I definitely think

01:16:25.500 our ability to control climate change

01:16:26.940 is basically nonsense.

01:16:28.620 And are we a factor in the changing climate?

01:16:31.840 That.

01:16:33.280 Like, maybe.

01:16:35.500 But I still don't think it warrants

01:16:38.420 a carbon tax that does nothing.

01:16:40.980 Climate change is an oxymoron.

01:16:42.960 Climate has cycles, natural cycles.

01:16:46.720 Yeah.

01:16:48.260 Chris Marchuk.

01:16:49.960 No experts say our contribution is minuscule like 3%.

01:16:55.740 I think the current climate change rhetoric is a retelling of chicken little dressed up in pretty language.

01:17:01.600 That's funny. That's a good one.

01:17:03.100 The Albertans commented a few times on here, especially throughout the religious question.

01:17:07.020 Not really sure where the Albertans stands on religion.

01:17:09.220 We'll let him talk about that another time.

01:17:12.000 But I think that we have a consensus here.

01:17:17.900 the consensus is that the mainstream consensus around climate change is nonsense and it's bananas

01:17:22.620 and i i agree with that for the most part um do i think that the climate has changed i think that

01:17:32.820 the climate is definitely different than when i was a child and i'm only 31 but i have memories

01:17:39.360 of different kinds of uh different kinds of of things happening at halloween i remember

01:17:46.680 snow at Halloween and stuff when I was a kid. It's not really snow at Halloween now. I remember

01:17:52.440 temperatures being different in January when I was a kid and not even like they've gone up or down,

01:17:56.600 but they're just different. And again, it's the climate, like the climate has changed around

01:18:01.380 Prince George. I've lived here for almost all of my life and things are different than when I was

01:18:05.580 a child. Do I think they're significantly different enough to warrant the complete and utter destruction

01:18:10.300 of the economic system that we have no i don't i don't but i do have questions i do have questions

01:18:18.300 and so when it comes to the issue of poor lytton there you know it was really hot it was really

01:18:26.860 rough and i think that maybe maybe if for its own sake

01:18:33.620 you know if if if for its own sake maybe the thing when it comes to lytton is that

01:18:43.560 i feel really sorry for the people who not only died but uh for the people had to flee their home

01:18:49.400 right and that's all very sad and it's very sad to have your entire town destroyed and it's very

01:18:55.620 sad to have things go wrong and i'm not really sure what the solution is to those problems

01:19:02.400 for example is is the solution to those problems that you know when it gets that

01:19:10.440 that uh hot do we need to basically just be like well

01:19:16.360 you know everybody everybody be as careful as he can be and maybe we should avoid having rail

01:19:25.060 traffic for that for that day or those two days that it's that hot or something i don't know

01:19:29.340 And I'm not saying the railway did it. I'm not saying that at all. It's just it's all I know is that I wouldn't want to live through that myself. That's what I'm getting at, I guess. So regardless of how we reason our way there to the questions of how dry it is and how hot it is in British Columbia, not anymore, but it was everything else that happened.

01:19:47.020 the question then becomes well

01:19:50.280 I don't want anyone

01:19:52.660 to die and I don't want anyone to lose their home

01:19:54.580 from this stuff and so I don't

01:19:56.580 believe that carbon taxes will fix it

01:19:58.640 and I don't believe that me driving my

01:20:00.620 truck around just because I need to go grab some

01:20:02.560 stuff or help somebody move into

01:20:04.460 their new house or whatever I don't think that's

01:20:06.460 going to help either but

01:20:08.440 you know

01:20:10.140 at the same time I want to do something

01:20:14.520 right I want to feel like I can contribute in some

01:20:16.540 way and uh there's been some there's been some important comments made along the way here so

01:20:24.280 fort mack was in peril a few years ago uh lytton is not alone make some better take some better

01:20:29.380 precautions no that's fair that's fair um maybe maybe there needed to be some fire

01:20:36.300 fire lines and that sort of thing dug around it or something

01:20:39.180 yeah burton's back with it is just as naive to say humans have no impact as to say that we have

01:20:49.460 an exponential impact on climate truth is likely somewhere in the fence sitting metal

01:20:53.120 it's fair i'm not i'm not saying that we have no impact i i think we probably do i just don't know

01:20:59.020 what that means to say we have impact i really don't know i worked on the forestry suppression

01:21:04.180 crew in late in the 70s and it was the hottest place in canada fires are normally started by

01:21:08.580 trains or people wanting a job wow that's that's pretty cynical but but not i mean maybe not wrong

01:21:17.140 so yeah fire suppression that sort of thing that was something else that actually came to mind

01:21:23.780 this is a bit out of left field but i remember once talking to someone who was completely convinced

01:21:27.300 that most of the forest fires especially west of prince george a couple years ago were actually set

01:21:31.780 by terrorists like people who were like people who who who were on a mission to cause a problem

01:21:38.260 in canada uh and the best way to cause a problem in canada was to just light a couple of trees on

01:21:42.900 fire in the middle of nowhere drive away and things would go wrong and i must admit out of

01:21:48.660 like i mean it sounded kind of crazy to me at that moment but then you just stop and you think about

01:21:53.060 it and you're like well actually like if you were trying to cause discord and problems inside of a

01:21:58.100 country and they had this abundant natural resource that went up in smoke really really fast

01:22:02.820 really really easily yeah that would be that would be a genius move like you have to you have to admit

01:22:09.380 that that's a that that makes total sense from a real war strategy sort of standpoint you cause a

01:22:15.220 forest fire people are running around people are panicked people are expending resources it's going

01:22:19.780 to not bankrupt the country but it's going to cause problems financial hardship force people

01:22:24.180 out of their homes gonna make people angry like it's a brilliant tool for dividing people am i 0.52

01:22:28.660 saying that's what happened here no i'm not i'm just saying that when when mr you know crazy

01:22:34.020 conspiracy guy came up to me and said that to me i was like yeah that sounds kind of crazy then you

01:22:38.260 sit there and you think about it for five minutes you're like actually that makes a lot of sense

01:22:42.740 that makes a lot more sense than like invading the bay of pigs or you know trying to drop a bomb

01:22:47.780 somewhere it's like no like if you wanted to get if you wanted to get people angry or messed up and

01:22:52.580 affect a country this is a this this makes sense so um i i don't think that that's what happened

01:23:00.260 here but but i i understand why people might think that and why people uh think that it's so drastic

01:23:07.620 when it comes to this sort of stuff so i threw out that climate change question people have all kind

01:23:13.300 of voted on it um most of it was no we don't believe in the climate change that's being

01:23:19.940 discussed by the mainstream media um there was another forest fire years ago

01:23:30.740 that was started by not by a bearing packed in greece of course

01:23:34.740 on fire no wonder the railroad has hidden the train to avoid any culpability in the courts

01:23:40.500 yeah no i mean obviously obviously things can get pretty warm

01:23:43.940 pretty fast when it comes to metal on metal and breaking and everything else that's all

01:23:49.940 that's all pretty nasty stuff let's just take a look if there's anything else in here so that was

01:23:55.440 wildfires oh there's something we can jump into right away oh wait no we'll go take a quick look

01:24:01.360 at get rid of these guys so i've got a lot of tabs open right now so i just need just need a

01:24:07.160 hand here bc wildfire update let's go to that okay share screen bc wildfire update

01:24:13.040 bc wildfire dashboard share there we go okie dokie yeah so i shared this with you a little

01:24:22.140 while ago okay uh well a little while ago it was a while ago um and when we shared that with you

01:24:29.500 this whole thing here i don't know if you can see it very well can you see it yeah okay cool

01:24:35.200 let me go back to that screen so i can move my mouse for you this whole thing here like all of

01:24:41.220 this like you see everything that's in here right now was literally what like there was like

01:24:52.860 two fires down here near Kamloops and in the southern caribou in the southern interior here

01:24:58.460 and there was a couple of fires up in the piece that's it I don't I think there was one maybe

01:25:06.160 near Vancouver Island or on the coast like it was nothing there was nothing on this board is my

01:25:10.920 point now we're at 214 active fires there's provincial current year fires 723 uh current

01:25:18.600 year fires 723 this year so far and then we have

01:25:28.360 yeah no it's all it's all kind of nonsense like that's crazy that's totally crazy

01:25:33.480 723

01:25:39.420 214

01:25:41.660 yeah that was like

01:25:42.840 5 and 20

01:25:45.760 last week it was nothing

01:25:47.280 and now we've got all this stuff

01:25:49.460 there's a lot of

01:25:51.620 there was a lot of fires

01:25:55.640 now so

01:25:56.380 be safe out there please don't

01:25:59.460 cause any fires yourself

01:26:01.840 by accident please don't

01:26:03.480 please don't accidentally leave your campfire unattended or anything like that.

01:26:08.580 And do try and follow the restrictions wherever you are when it comes to campfires. It's funny,

01:26:14.380 now I can say restrictions and have nothing to do with the pandemic. One last thing, actually,

01:26:18.860 we'll jump right back into that. Actually, no, we have something for that. Just a second. We're

01:26:24.300 going to get back into the pandemic stuff for just a moment before we get into this whole

01:26:29.460 governor general thing, which tells us definitively that there's going to be an election

01:26:34.060 because without a governor general, you can't have an election. Some people are saying, oh,

01:26:38.280 well, like the chief justice of the court can go and release parliament. That's not what the

01:26:42.740 constitution says. And that should have been like straight up revolt. People should have stormed

01:26:47.420 parliament over that one. That's nonsense. Anyways, if that had been pulled off, I mean,

01:26:52.960 okay, vaccine passports ignite debate over privacy versus public health. All right. And we're

01:26:59.380 back are we on the cbc again oh for the love of god i'm sorry there's so much cbc today i will i

01:27:04.680 promise i'll go home and i will wash my mouth out and we're going to do our best to get rid of this 0.93

01:27:11.440 silly thing if we can't no we can't being black in canada it's going to stay on there how that has 0.89

01:27:15.680 anything to do with anything i don't know i have black cousins they enjoy being in canada end of 0.96

01:27:21.500 discussion uh as a steadily rising number of fully vaccinated Canadians emerge from hiding to test

01:27:29.920 the gradual return to pre-pandemic normalcy a conundrum looms man who wrote this Alistair

01:27:36.460 Steele well Alistair Steele is going to need to go back to academia because that's a mouthful of

01:27:41.020 a first sentence and I I love doing that in my first sentences but that's even I'm saying that's

01:27:46.460 too much as a steadily rising number of fully vaccinated Canadians emerge from hiding to test

01:27:51.380 the gradual return to pre-pandemic normalcy. A conundrum looms. What to do about those who,

01:27:58.700 for whatever reason, haven't had a shot. Striking the proper balance between public health and

01:28:04.200 personal freedom and figuring out whether one must be relinquished to protect the other

01:28:07.820 will become increasingly key as the country reopens. For a growing number of jurisdictions

01:28:12.060 and institutions, the solution is a vaccine passport, a document the bearer can show as

01:28:16.400 proof of immunization against the coronavirus in order to be granted certain freedoms. On the flip

01:28:20.900 side those who can't produce such evidence because they couldn't or wouldn't get vaccinated

01:28:25.620 could be denied access to businesses flights and university dorms name just a few potential

01:28:30.260 inconveniences

01:28:31.420 oh thanks mandy yeah and brenda yeah i get it i i do i hate it i hate it too it's okay but hey 0.52

01:28:45.560 At least you're getting your tax dollars out of this session with me.

01:28:51.680 Vaccine passports.

01:28:52.940 I have been against them from day one.

01:28:55.620 I do not have the vaccine.

01:28:57.500 I have no intentions of taking the vaccine.

01:28:59.240 Neither does my fiance.

01:29:03.240 And.

01:29:10.020 I think the simplest thing to say here is that.

01:29:12.440 i don't care if you got your shot or not you shouldn't be in favor of a vaccine passport 0.96

01:29:19.220 because if you think that that's the last time they're going to put something in your body and

01:29:24.260 then say hey now show me this show me this you know this card in order to go and have your rights

01:29:30.420 that's gonna be a pro that's gonna be a problem right it's like how you honestly don't have to

01:29:38.900 even identify yourself to someone or anyone is okay. You got a piece of ideas. Actually, no,

01:29:43.660 no, no. You know what? You don't have cause and I don't need to give you my ID at all. I don't

01:29:48.080 need to tell you my name until you tell me what's going on around here. I'd like to start with your

01:29:53.280 name, your birthday. Nope. Sorry. I'd like to start with what the hell you think is happening

01:29:58.000 around here and why you think I have a right to my name or my birthday, right? Like it,

01:30:03.160 and if people had a little bit more of that toughness in them

01:30:09.480 uh we wouldn't be where we are today but i don't know what that is with canada because i've met a

01:30:13.880 lot of i've met a lot of people in canada who seem to be pretty tough people and and they're

01:30:19.000 better at being assertive around the stuff than i am i mean my fiance is she was raised by some

01:30:22.840 working class people who who are like they're they are good at drawing boundaries they're a

01:30:27.640 They're a lot better drawing boundaries

01:30:28.680 than some of us privileged folk are.

01:30:31.680 But, Sheldon's got a good one there.

01:30:36.540 Watching these CBC articles,

01:30:38.100 I can almost hear the vacuum-sucking sounds

01:30:40.180 of money coming out of my pocket.

01:30:45.600 Well.

01:30:46.080 i i can't imagine that having vaccines you know i can't imagine that having vaccine passports is

01:31:03.660 going to be a good idea and i can't imagine that going very well i see that going to the supreme

01:31:07.440 court and getting knocked out but we'll see how it goes so for some reason manitoba of all places

01:31:12.520 which is nobody's idea of a socialist paradise except when it comes to their liquor laws where

01:31:17.640 you know you can still buy a beer for less than five bucks up in churchill manitoba when it should

01:31:21.320 cost eight last month manitoba announced it would provide immunization cards to residents who have

01:31:27.240 been fully vaccinated allowing them to travel domestically without being required to self-isolate

01:31:31.720 when they return in may western university in london announced it would require students living 0.94

01:31:36.280 in residence to show proof of immunization that's where my buddy went to school western

01:31:40.360 also in may health minister patty hadju told cbc news that the government was talking with its g7

01:31:46.600 allies about implementing a vaccine passport that would allow immunized canada to resume

01:31:49.880 international travel while quebec began issuing downloadable qr codes as digital proof of

01:31:53.800 vaccination it wasn't immediately clear how they'd be used ethicists privacy advocates validity

01:31:59.080 groups have warned that such requirements threatened to create a two-tier society

01:32:02.520 benefiting those who've been vaccinated australian those who have it as of june 25th the latest update

01:32:07.240 from the king government said tens over 12 to that uh 22 were fully vaccinated

01:32:15.320 uh a question of fairness

01:32:21.160 you have to remember that you're talking to a guy here who literally doesn't believe in the

01:32:26.680 idea that somehow there could even be an ethics department because i mean there is only one ethics

01:32:32.440 department it's called morality and approach the apprehension of a situation like that has

01:32:41.360 nothing to do with anything it's nonsense and

01:32:46.960 yeah canadians don't you just don't need it august

01:32:55.140 i don't know what that's about

01:33:00.480 so in any case the vaccine passport thing was a bit of a rant and a half but i i enjoyed that rant

01:33:10.060 because uh hey daryl's back i agree completely with you on the shot and the passport date we

01:33:16.100 can't even use canada's proposition canada vote uh it's pretty simple really like you can't you

01:33:24.960 can't have like the vaccine passport is nonsense like it's just complete nonsense like you still 1.00

01:33:31.260 get service at a hospital without having a health card right like a health card number and it can't

01:33:37.320 refuse you service at even a canadian hospital if you are just a random person who just chopped out

01:33:41.980 of the sky you're just some random person who just you know appeared out of nowhere and you've got a

01:33:46.580 hand wound or something something's wrong with you and you walk into a canadian hospital they're

01:33:50.520 going to send you a bill for it but but because our system isn't free it's fee for service and

01:33:56.780 if you are insured under our system and if you're not insured under our system you will receive a

01:34:01.080 bill in the mail but the point is that if you drop out of the sky out of nowhere and you go to the

01:34:08.600 hospital you you will get service so the idea that you need a you need a passport to do this

01:34:18.060 that just makes no sense um and and the alberton has brought up something important here too yeah

01:34:26.320 the question is here is whether rights are conditional or not saying you have the right

01:34:30.840 to x if you do a or x x if you do y means you have no rights at all and that's totally true 1.00

01:34:37.820 yeah and and patricia makes the point hospitals seem to refuse service to you even when you're

01:34:45.040 not wearing a mask yeah and that's that's all nonsense so we're gonna punt this from the stream

01:34:49.840 for now which we're just gonna get rid of it entirely and just as a final point on the vaccine

01:34:58.340 passport thing I think I don't even really know how that's gonna be processed here in BC because

01:35:04.800 to tell you the truth like it's like the pandemic didn't exist that was that was the other point I

01:35:08.820 wanted to bring up I'm sorry I got a little lost there we went through some really bizarre we've

01:35:12.640 through some bizarre rabbit trails here today which is fine it's all been it's all been to

01:35:16.480 kind of the same point personal freedoms are eroding the chance of living is going down the

01:35:20.560 cost of living is going up but but to this point like so i'm in bc i know a lot of you guys are

01:35:26.800 watching me from alberta but i'm in british columbia and it's as if the pandemic never

01:35:32.560 happened like i i think i think there's still a mask in my car somewhere or something like i just

01:35:37.520 because like i somebody handed me one once at a store or something and it's still in there

01:35:42.400 but it just we're this is where we are like we're it's as if it doesn't exist anymore it's as if it

01:35:49.840 is as if it's all gone like it i walk around a store now i don't have to worry about someone

01:35:54.880 looking at me twice if i'm not wearing a mask i you know lots of staff are wearing masks but even

01:35:59.520 some staff aren't in some stores it's just it's almost we're almost back to 2019 that's what it

01:36:04.320 it feels like or early 2020 it almost feels like we're there where i'm walking around looking around

01:36:09.440 seeing things and it's all nothing it's all it's not it's like it never happened and i guess the

01:36:18.720 point that i'm making here if you if you lost the urgency if the urgency is gone then how can you

01:36:25.840 convince people to to take the vaccine or to take to take a vaccine passport and walk around with it

01:36:32.320 you know nobody carries nobody carries their passport everywhere unless they're traveling

01:36:38.360 and we all know that we don't need to carry our passport everywhere the only person i ever knew

01:36:43.540 that brought his passport everywhere was was a guy who literally never got his driver's license so

01:36:47.820 his passport was his id when he went out to the bar and he was a young looking guy so that's why

01:36:52.940 he carried his passport with him that's the only person in this on this planet who is carrying his

01:36:57.360 passport with him all the time everybody else is just carrying some other piece of id or they're

01:37:01.820 not carrying any ID at all because they look like they're of age to buy some liquor or some tobacco

01:37:06.360 or to walk into an establishment or to just go do something. Nobody thinks that a six-year-old

01:37:11.600 should be wandering the streets alone of downtown anywhere, let alone Prince George, but that's just

01:37:16.180 it. If you don't look like you're six years old and if you don't look like you're 12 and if you

01:37:19.920 don't look like you're underage, you're probably going to get pretty far in life without having to

01:37:23.940 produce proof of your identification, your age. That's the same thing here. If you don't look

01:37:28.580 sickly, and if you don't look like anything's wrong with you, why would anybody bother bringing

01:37:32.940 a little card with them everywhere that proves that they're not sick? You bring cards with you

01:37:37.120 to school to prove that you were sick. They're called sick notes. They're called doctor's notes.

01:37:44.760 We don't carry little pieces of paper with us anywhere to prove that we're not sick. We bring

01:37:52.220 pieces of paper with us to prove that we are sick to people because it costs money to let you sit

01:37:58.960 at home and not be at work. It's kind of mind boggling. It's kind of mind boggling.

01:38:22.220 i'm going to jump right back into it here and i'm going to grab a where are we looking here

01:38:34.340 ottawa spent 20 million on a covet 19 tracking app with inconclusive results

01:38:42.580 yeah i'll get up to that another time epoch times this is all epoch time stuff it's nice

01:38:48.880 of epoch time stuff here we'll use more of that next time uh let's stream this stuff let's get

01:38:56.320 into our new governor general share screen from tab here we go so i don't even know who this person is

01:39:06.880 but i was just up there you'd think i'd know who this was but prime minister justin trudeau uh

01:39:12.400 Simon, an Inuk leader and former Canadian diplomat, has been named as Canada's next

01:39:18.420 governor general, the first Indigenous persons to serve in the role.

01:39:21.560 Yeah, well, we know what vote Mr. Trudeau is going for.

01:39:24.420 Okay, let's start from the top here.

01:39:26.380 Inuk leader Mary Simon named Canada's next governor general.

01:39:30.200 Mary Simon, an Inuit leader and former Canadian diplomat, has been named as Canada's next

01:39:34.500 governor general, the first Indigenous person to serve in the role.

01:39:37.000 It's kind of incredible that that's the first Indigenous person to serve in the role, to

01:39:40.480 be honest with you.

01:39:41.000 I'm not I don't believe in race baiting. I really don't. But here's a here's a hot take.

01:39:46.000 I really don't understand why somebody of South Asian descent was minister of defense before somebody of somebody who was a First Nation was.

01:39:53.520 That doesn't mean that I didn't think that Hardit San San, right, wasn't a competent person.

01:40:02.460 I think he was, though he got he got now to hold the file of of sexual molestation.

01:40:07.200 And apparently there's all this sexual molestation going on in the military.

01:40:09.500 And I don't think that's his fault.

01:40:11.340 I just think that it's unfortunate he has to hold the bag for that.

01:40:14.700 But the point is that I did wonder about that because the military legacy for First Nations people is a very serious one.

01:40:22.560 I don't know of any First Nations people ever got to the rank of colonel and that sort of thing, because that's what I believe Harji was, the Minister of Defense.

01:40:31.620 but i'd hope that i'd hope that there was somebody somewhere that could be promoted in those ranks

01:40:38.160 because that's actually one of the few places where i think that there's been a real clear

01:40:42.300 connection from from kind of the beginning of of contact all the way to today first nations

01:40:47.920 and military history and and military uh participation is really important so it's

01:40:54.300 It's a huge thing in First Nations communities to have, well, to have that.

01:41:00.160 So I'm hopeful that someday in the not-so-distant future,

01:41:05.080 it will be a First Nations person who is made Minister of Defense.

01:41:12.320 She's from Quebec, apparently, Claudette says.

01:41:18.940 And the Albertans.

01:41:20.460 Trudeau Sr. Jean Chrétien

01:41:23.460 the Liberals preside over residential schools

01:41:25.180 but Trudeau Jr. appointed the first

01:41:26.800 institution as Governor General. Racism solved.

01:41:29.120 Racism over.

01:41:32.040 First one to

01:41:32.900 fill the role. It is only by

01:41:34.940 building bridges, bringing people

01:41:36.320 between North and South, just like East and West

01:41:38.960 that we can truly move forward.

01:41:41.260 Okay, well that's a terrible saying

01:41:42.900 but okay.

01:41:43.940 He's done that throughout her life.

01:41:47.020 Paving the path ahead today

01:41:48.740 after 154 years

01:41:50.340 our country takes a historic debt cannot he said queen of the head approved the appointment so

01:41:56.100 queen elizabeth's already weighed in and said yes simon who is born in kings yeah we're gonna

01:42:05.460 have to work on that pronunciation in the nunavik region of northern quebec ah there it is the

01:42:10.580 nunavik region of northern quebec yep yep yep is the former president of the inuit tapirid katami

01:42:15.860 a national advocacy organization for Inuit.

01:42:18.300 Long time advocated for Inuit culture and rights.

01:42:21.660 She also served as Canada's ambassador to Denmark

01:42:23.540 and the Canadian ambassador for circumpolar affairs.

01:42:25.900 I did not know that.

01:42:26.880 That's interesting.

01:42:28.680 I mean, I don't know what you do as ambassador to Denmark

01:42:31.220 other than read Hans Christian Andersen

01:42:33.840 and sit around and eat chocolates

01:42:35.940 because they make pretty good chocolates in Denmark too.

01:42:38.920 Really good pipe tobacco as well.

01:42:42.160 And I guess pickled fish.

01:42:44.580 But good for her.

01:42:45.860 then the circumpolar affairs thing which i think ironically has china on it uh despite the fact

01:42:50.660 that china doesn't touch the arctic ocean simon began her remarks by speaking in inuktitut and

01:42:56.900 then in english said she thanked trudeau for the historic opportunity she is honored humbled and

01:43:01.460 ready to be canada's first indigenous governor general her appointment comes to occur at a

01:43:05.860 critical moment for canada's relationship with indigenous people ground penetrating radar

01:43:09.780 recreated blah blah blah blah blah of course the whole question of the unmarked graves and uh

01:43:15.780 former residential schools historic and inspirational moment long path towards

01:43:21.700 reconciliation she also sought to confront one potential contrary the fact that she is not

01:43:25.540 fluent in french based on experience growing up come back i was denied the chance to learn

01:43:28.900 french during my time in the federal government day schools ah that's interesting so supposedly

01:43:33.300 it was racism that prevented her from learning french that's an interesting take i've never

01:43:36.900 heard that one before i should use that the next time that somebody says well why don't you speak

01:43:41.060 french well i don't know because of racism yeah like i should do that that's that's that's

01:43:47.860 interesting i'm not saying she's lying about that i just i didn't know i was allowed to make that

01:43:53.380 comment i didn't know i was allowed to take that stance which is not really true in my case i

01:43:57.620 suppose but still i mean if you want to fake it till you make it i guess based on my experience

01:44:02.260 growing up in Quebec, da-da-da-da.

01:44:03.780 I am deeply committed to continuing my French language studies,

01:44:06.020 da-da-da-da-da-da. Chief Justice Ragnar

01:44:07.680 would be fulfilling the government's duties

01:44:08.960 as an administrator, but need to appoint

01:44:11.540 a request to become more pronounced. Recent week signs

01:44:13.420 increasingly point liberals to signing an election this summer

01:44:15.680 or fall.

01:44:18.920 So,

01:44:19.960 here we are.

01:44:22.100 It was a question nearly from the start

01:44:23.880 after the Prime Minister abandoned the formal panel

01:44:25.620 to the previous conservative government.

01:44:26.880 Yeah, so that

01:44:30.000 was Payette, talking to Payette.

01:44:31.740 so payette right so and that's the other part of this whole story of course is payette so

01:44:37.760 welcome to critical race theory thank you sheldon patricia can i do that too yeah of course you do

01:44:55.720 and uh john of course helping helping me know why this matters uh this is why we have john john's on

01:45:01.320 the show tomorrow to help us understand these things. We have a running territorial dispute

01:45:05.840 with Denmark over ownership of an unoccupied island in the high Arctic. That's a good point.

01:45:11.180 Maybe if we ever build any of those ships and actually ice break our way there and then put

01:45:16.520 some of our, you know, somewhat badly equipped troops on there because we do a terrible job

01:45:22.520 equipping people in our military because we have no self-respect as a country. Maybe then we can

01:45:27.740 fix that problem oh the producer fixed my mice issue isn't that nice is there gold or oil there

01:45:34.660 that's valid question patricia yeah don't tell the americans anyways let's let's get back into

01:45:42.040 this now so we've got this new governor general and of course our old governor general was a train

01:45:46.720 wreck uh you know what our old governor general was our old governor general was not to make light

01:45:53.320 of that situation but our our old governor general was a train full of dumpsters on fire headed

01:46:01.280 towards a petroleum factory that also happened to be having a fireworks party that's what that's what

01:46:08.560 that was okay it was it was an absolute train wreck it was a dumpster fire that made dumpster

01:46:16.500 fires look envious so she was a terrible governor general of course she was a terrible choice for 1.00

01:46:22.080 governor general she had killed somebody with her car uh by accident but nonetheless she had you

01:46:27.700 know she had had this this manslaughter moment whatever this this accidental vehicle use causing

01:46:32.660 death or whatever which wasn't a good start don't i'm sorry but there are just some things in life

01:46:37.740 like it's not saying you can't be forgiven for it but there are really some things in life where

01:46:40.940 i mean if you're going to be especially symbolic i'm not saying you can't be an elected official

01:46:44.200 at that but if you're going to be the symbol of all that's canada maybe that's not it also the

01:46:48.640 terrible divorce that had happened with her husband and some of the issues that had happened

01:46:51.400 there. And finally, the fact that, I mean, at this point, she's out of office. So the well-rumored

01:46:58.280 fact, the well-discussed backstory that she did have somebody who she was deeply devoted to in a

01:47:06.040 romantic sense, who, you know, was of the same gender and was around and was more interested

01:47:13.000 in spending time with her and not doing her job. So that was widely discussed, let alone the

01:47:17.620 psychological abuse she was heaping upon her staff, let alone the fact that she had an axe to grind 0.79

01:47:24.480 against religion, right? That came out in one of her speeches about science or something at some

01:47:28.620 stupid party somewhere. Like, these are all things that we all know now, right? We're allowed to say 1.00

01:47:33.500 it because she's getting paid by my tax dollars, whether I say them or not. And she doesn't, and I

01:47:37.960 mean, she doesn't know who I am. She doesn't care what I think because she's getting paid to be a 1.00

01:47:41.460 piece of bleep anyways. Like, she doesn't care. You know, that was always the thing about criticizing 1.00

01:47:46.300 the elites because they could really do some crocodile tears because they they really

01:47:53.180 you know they don't care right like i mean they get paid either way that's the thing about the

01:47:56.540 protected class they get paid either way but the point that i'm trying to make here is that julie

01:48:01.420 piet was the worst possible governor general that you could have had of all time outside of some of

01:48:06.620 the tyrants of the 20th century but at least they would have been competent at being tyrant she 0.99

01:48:10.300 She wasn't even a good tyrant. 1.00

01:48:11.820 So the point is that she's out of the picture.

01:48:15.340 Thanks be to God.

01:48:16.400 She doesn't deserve her pension, obviously,

01:48:18.480 because she's a complete waste of air, time, and space. 1.00

01:48:21.020 Maybe she could go back up to space

01:48:22.500 and just swing around the planet for a while, not bother us.

01:48:25.960 We'll just leave her in the space station. 1.00

01:48:27.620 She can do research or something or talk to plants.

01:48:29.980 I don't care.

01:48:30.820 The point is she doesn't matter, and she was irrelevant,

01:48:33.060 and she wasn't a good governor general. 0.97

01:48:34.900 May God have mercy on her soul.

01:48:36.740 And may she give all of her money to charity.

01:48:38.920 Maybe that would be her redemption.

01:48:40.300 Then what what we've got on now is that we've been running without a governor general for for months, for months.

01:48:46.900 We haven't had a governor general. And that's not OK, because whatever you think about vice regal appointments and all that garbage.

01:48:52.000 The point is that it doesn't matter where you stand on that stuff. I'm a monarchist. If you aren't, that's fine. 0.86

01:48:57.300 But but the point is that you can't run a government not according to its own rules.

01:49:02.280 The rules say this is who's supposed to be in charge. If you don't have that in your government, then you don't have a government.

01:49:08.420 Right. And I mean, somebody made this point about some of Trump's cabinet. Did they even have a cabinet anymore that was appointed by the president and then confirmed by the Senate? They had some valid arguments there. It's a very valid arguments that, you know, a lot of Trump's cabinet was not was no longer approved by the Senate.

01:49:29.440 it was all they were all acting directors that he had to kind of appoint by fiat right or when the

01:49:34.400 senate was in recess uh but the point is this we have we have julie payette she's gone and now we

01:49:43.520 have well i just exited that mary simon uh which is funny it's kind of almost a cult it's almost a

01:49:52.160 not cartoonish i don't mean that in a negative way but it's it's a very that's an aboriginal

01:49:57.440 name that sounds like somebody made it up like paul george almost like i mean it there's for us

01:50:02.640 aboriginals uh there's a lot of us who have first first and last names that are both first names

01:50:08.400 right and last names that are first names kind of thing so i could be i could be uh i could be

01:50:15.760 kind of cynical about that but but i'll let that be the point that i'm trying to drive home here

01:50:20.160 is that we've got this first Indigenous

01:50:23.480 Governor General. And honestly, considering how

01:50:27.540 completely awful Payette was,

01:50:32.060 it really doesn't matter. You could have had

01:50:36.060 a 14-year-old who stares into her phone all day. She would have

01:50:40.100 been a better Governor General than Julie Payette. So I'm

01:50:44.360 actually happy with this appointment to a point. I mean, obviously, because she

01:50:48.140 was appointed by the liberals she is a liberal right only a conservative government would ever

01:50:53.120 survive with a liberal appointee as harper did with michelle jean uh i thought michelle jean

01:50:59.880 actually did quite well in the role especially considering um afghanistan and everything else

01:51:04.680 that was going on at the time i think michelle jean actually did a great job in the role i don't

01:51:09.080 know what other people think about that but i thought she did a pretty okay job and only a

01:51:14.000 conservative prime minister can work with a liberal appointee. And Harper did a great job

01:51:19.520 working with her. And she worked really well with him. And then of course, he got David Johnson in

01:51:23.540 there to try and get some semblance of order back into the office and put some more regality to it. 0.98

01:51:31.640 And then he went and wrote a book about, you know, you know, he wrote a book about how we could

01:51:39.600 improve this country, which sounded exactly like what the son of privilege would write about how

01:51:43.980 to improve this country i i lost a lot of respect for david johnson as i attempted to read his book

01:51:49.100 it wasn't like he hadn't put anything important in it or smart in it or whatever like it just

01:51:55.900 he he really is the son of privilege he's an ontarian and of course everything that

01:52:00.300 comes out of ontario is hard to stomach because it's from ontario but but he really was he's just

01:52:06.140 the son of privilege he was a waspy privileged individual who went on to play at some of those

01:52:12.300 all-star places in the east coast the ivy leagues and he you know he'd been a reader for his church

01:52:18.060 whenever he just sounded like the all canadian all-star sort of sign a guy and that's fine i'm

01:52:22.380 not saying you can't be those things but he certainly wasn't coming from a place of solidarity

01:52:27.500 with the underclass and he wasn't even a kind of disinterested aristocrat saying well let the

01:52:34.140 peasants eat their bread and whatever but i you know i certainly wouldn't want to rule my peasants

01:52:38.300 to such a point and hurt them to such a point that they'd rebel against me and have my head

01:52:41.980 like, come on, I'd like to live this life just fine.

01:52:45.100 He didn't even have that kind of going for me.

01:52:46.900 It was kind of those, it felt smarmy and just, yeah,

01:52:51.720 I lost a lot of respect for David Johnson

01:52:53.380 as a writer of that book,

01:52:55.340 not necessarily as our governor general.

01:52:57.640 But we have Mary Simon.

01:53:03.200 I think she'll be competent in the role,

01:53:05.200 to be honest with you.

01:53:06.100 I don't think she's going to be incompetent.

01:53:08.040 and it's not it's i mean you have so much staff to help you with it it's not as if it's she's not

01:53:15.500 president of canada right like she doesn't she doesn't have to worry about what the nuclear 0.99

01:53:19.060 launch codes are this isn't america uh she gets to sit in a nice house she gets to greet ambassadors

01:53:25.000 she was an ambassador herself that helps the fact that she was an ambassador she knows how to deal 0.99

01:53:29.380 with ambassador stuff uh international relations stuff and she'll tour around and she'll be the

01:53:34.680 first aboriginal one and she'll you know she'll she'll be a good token that way i don't i don't 0.99

01:53:40.600 think that's what the role is for i agree with the albert and here i care not for names i care

01:53:45.020 for competence and humility i that's fine i completely i can completely agree with you there

01:53:49.640 but but you know they uh they they have a role to fill and i i'm gonna end on this point actually

01:54:04.180 And this is something that I've always kind of believed.

01:54:06.000 I've always had a different attitude

01:54:07.120 to where there's stuff than a lot of other people.

01:54:08.700 Maybe it's because I'm a monarchist.

01:54:12.640 I really don't believe,

01:54:14.240 I really don't believe in being perfectly prepared

01:54:16.800 for anything in life or a position in life

01:54:20.220 or anything like that.

01:54:21.040 I don't believe it exists.

01:54:22.940 In the end, you have the stones to make it or you don't.

01:54:25.740 Grace builds on nature is a line we use

01:54:27.780 inside of my faith all the time.

01:54:29.500 If you don't have what it takes to be a priest

01:54:30.960 just by your natural state,

01:54:32.440 it's not just about celibacy and that sort of stuff.

01:54:33.840 I just mean like what it takes to be that loving, caring person who's supposed to personify God.

01:54:38.320 You're not going to make it no matter how much formation you have.

01:54:41.280 And the same thing happens with being a husband.

01:54:42.720 The same thing happens with being a doctor.

01:54:44.000 The same thing happens with being a pipe fitter, for that matter, to a certain extent.

01:54:47.480 It's like grace builds on nature.

01:54:48.840 You have these natural talents that God already gave you.

01:54:51.520 And that's got to be the 80% threshold or the B plus threshold, whatever, A minus B plus threshold. 0.56

01:54:57.360 It's got to get you there.

01:54:58.380 It's got to get you past the passing grade.

01:55:00.240 and then

01:55:01.400 you kind of build from there.

01:55:11.920 You need that impetus, what starts there, the raw material being pretty good raw material

01:55:16.000 and then you can direct it somewhere. What I see with Mary Simon

01:55:19.860 is whatever else, yeah, she'll be a liberal through and through and she's a part of the elite

01:55:23.920 class and everything else. She is from that place up north

01:55:27.940 hopefully her background gives her some solidarity with people

01:55:33.060 and i am i am hopeful that she will act in a way that helps us helps us move forward as a country

01:55:45.720 i don't care for this government i don't care for a lot of its appointees this is a better

01:55:51.180 choice than julie payette but then again like a cardboard box with suggestions in it was a better

01:55:55.680 idea than julie pad um so i'm glad that's over and i'm glad that we're able to move forward and

01:56:01.760 we will discuss the election another time maybe even later this week but that is the end of today's

01:56:07.520 show uh try and keep things timely i'm not even going to bother with the email or anything like

01:56:11.440 that you guys know the email you know who i am send me a message if you need to uh thank you

01:56:16.160 so much for watching today and we'll be back again tomorrow 9am pacific 10am mountain

01:56:25.680 Amen.

Western Standard - July 07, 2021

Mountain Standard Time - July 6th, 2021

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