In this episode of Mountain Standard Time, host Nathan Guida talks about the appointment of a new Governor General, the election of a First Nations woman as Canada s next Prime Minister, and the ongoing investigation into the missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls.
00:03:28.240and not looking like the most unified anti-Liberal force on the planet
00:03:33.620to the point where it looks like they're just, you know,
00:03:36.72020 years behind the Liberals in all their policies.
00:03:38.860I don't think the Tories are going to do very well, to be honest with you.
00:03:42.480So that might not sound great, but let's move on to this question of, you know, Trudeau's first move to retake Lajarvan is naming an Inuk woman as the head of our government on behalf of, or the head of our state, to be clear, head of state, vice regal, head of state, on behalf of our dear old queen.
00:04:03.940And Mary Simon is a well-accomplished person.
00:04:06.620She represents clearly a pivot by Justin Trudeau and his government back to the progressives
00:04:12.160to try and get them to support them during this re-election.
00:04:24.020I think that Borden and MacDonald, and for that matter, Diefenbaker, and in some ways, Mulroney, and certainly Harper tried.
00:04:35.460They did do these symbolic moves that helped capture the imagination of a nation, at least for a moment.
00:04:41.220But the liberals are just so much better at it than us.
00:04:44.600And this is one of the places where they are.
00:04:46.560So we've had all these conversations about residential schools, the unmarked graves, etc.
00:04:52.100and what do the liberals do they seize upon the opportunity the conservatives are still playing
00:04:58.180they're still playing defense they're still trying to justify the residential school question
00:05:03.160while also fighting about whether or not the graves were really unmarked or discovered
00:05:07.740they've completely lost the initiative in the conversation they could stand on principle around
00:05:13.760say well you can't just tear down statues you can't just you can't just erase our history and
00:05:19.920There were actually positive things that came out of the residential school system.
00:05:23.680And the fact of the matter is that a lot of those schools were actually asked for by the local First Nations because they, too, knew that they would not survive as a people group inside of non-Aboriginal, post-contact, industrialized civilization.
00:28:23.120Sorry about that. I guess the point for the monarchy, and I've actually found myself defending the monarchy quite often, and I have very strong feelings about it, but there are three things to remember.
00:28:37.620I mean, one, parliamentary monarchy, some people just don't get against it.
00:28:45.660The first thing about a parliamentary monarchy is that you have somebody who is holding all the executive power with the understanding that they never exercise it.
00:29:01.640So, I mean, if you imagine someone like Pierre Trudeau, say, Sir Justin Trudeau, if he'd
00:29:07.760been elected as President of the United States, it would have been a huge ego boost.
00:29:11.880And he would be running in there trying to claim all sorts of power they're not entitled
00:29:41.700If you look, there's a collection of political economists, including the Fraser Institute,
00:29:47.200the cato institute in the state uh an austrian outfit they do an annual report on sorry i'm i'm
00:29:59.120damn that is very annoying um they do an annual report on basically uh individual freedoms and
00:30:10.320human rights, and the highest standards consistently in the top 10 are crowded up
00:30:17.360with parliamentary monarchies. They have the best record when it comes to protecting individual
00:30:24.160rights, and you can't argue with that. They also have very high standards of political stability.
00:30:31.200When was the last civil war that the British had? 1689. Then, say, look at some country like France,
00:30:39.280you know where the britain you've got one continuous government going on since 1689 in
00:30:45.760france you've got uh three republics three empires three foreign military occupations
00:30:52.160sorry and five republics um it's just constant um the other point of course is for canadians
00:31:00.080it's important you know we should be republic we're a big mature country what we want to be
00:31:06.320the third republic on this continent and the smallest one we want to lose all of the distinctiveness
00:31:13.920in our institutions and in our customs that make us different from the united states and from mexico1.00
00:31:20.800and lose that much of our history thank you no you you know nothing about canadian history
00:31:26.960even expressing that opinion means you need to go back to school yeah i understand now it's uh
00:31:34.320That, and of course, I don't know about you, but I've often enjoyed myself in the United States by sort of engaging in linguistic culture shock.
00:31:46.140You know, they talk about state land. I talk about crown land. They talk about, you know, judges. I talk about the Queen's Bench.
00:31:54.320you know they talk about particular regiments or you know the united states name and i say the
00:32:00.060royal canadian navy or the royal canadian air force or the regiment i served in uh the queen's
00:32:06.440york rangers which fought on the crown side in the american revolution and came to canada as part of
00:32:13.740the uh loyalist uh epic so i mean again you know the crown is woven deep in a canada soul and
00:32:23.500only an idiot would want to pull it out because they think we're supposed to be mature
00:32:28.700there's only a few there's only a few kind of things like that that really drive that home
00:32:33.500for some people one of them is when you speaking of regiments when you look at how many how many
00:32:38.220regiments united states are basically based in numbers they have numbers to try and delineate
00:32:43.180where they are who they are and then and in canada so much of them are locally based or
00:32:47.740they're person based they have a name to them or they have a locality to them that that tells us
00:32:52.940who who they are and what they are i've always found that to be quite quite beautiful actually
00:32:58.140that that that difference of the way we name things in canada yeah it often means that a
00:33:03.420unit is a lot more solidly rooted in the community and again you know american formations they come
00:33:10.780and they go you know the the 15th tank regiment served with distinction you know in korea and it
00:33:17.340isn't listed anymore it's gone you know but the lord strathcona's you know they've got a history
00:33:23.840that is epic and around 120 years now so absolutely i if i guess maybe a way to kind of pivot here
00:33:34.840is to say well if if people are ignorant of canadian history when it comes to the monarchy
00:33:39.260how how ignorant are people when it comes to these statues that are being removed and vandalized and
00:33:45.420of course the churches that are being scourged around around and scorched for that matter around
00:33:49.820Canada it seems to be a kind of direct connection there that something something's gone kind of
00:33:54.680terribly wrong when it comes to historical understanding of Canada it's being transformed
00:33:58.780it's being warped some people are making hay out of it and getting ahead of the curve and some
00:34:03.480people are getting left behind and seeing seeing their their monuments or their sacred spaces
00:34:08.260harmed you know um it's this historic phenomenon you know you iconoclasm you know in in the byzantine
00:34:17.300empire you look at various other points you know the puritans in england walked into all these
00:34:23.060old medieval churches and erect them you know centuries of art and history were lost uh and
00:34:29.380again it's the spur of the moment and you look at the sort of people who are out there tearing down
00:34:33.940on statues and thinking they're doing something,
00:34:37.620again, they are normally entirely ignorant of history
00:34:41.560and they're stealing from the heritage
00:39:08.500see the places where he was and um have lunch in a restaurant that was in his former law office
00:39:15.860you know he was part and parcel of it the other thing is that again you know i'm sorry people who
00:39:23.540tear down statues are simpletons and the actual facts of the matter is history is always far more
00:39:30.420complex than you know and again uh mcdonald was you know and he was her first prime minister but
00:39:39.620he was also trying to handle things i mean and remember the indian act although that came out
00:39:46.420uh under the liberals but the whole object of it was to try and get the indians to survive
00:39:52.980and a lot of people forget what things were like you know we raised the northwest mountain police
00:39:58.420to protect the plains indians from american whiskey traders who were killing them um and
00:40:06.260again you know there was the the massacre that was the the final straw and basically drove the
00:40:10.820mountains out to the prairies um i think the other point is that you know when you you talk about the
00:40:18.260the hunger that drove a lot of the indians into the reservations most people again have never ever
00:40:23.700thought about the history of the drove it but the winter of 1883 84 is also
00:40:30.480referred to in both in some of the Indian records from Canada and United
00:40:35.460States as the hunger winter and if you look at some of the newspapers from that
00:40:39.980winter or from that spring you know when the the snow finally melted in early
00:40:44.4801884 there were corpses coming out of snow banks from Winnipeg to Texas it was
00:40:51.120a horrible winter you know it killed off a lot of independent farmers independent ranchers it also
00:40:57.760meant that every indian that was not on a reservation uh was starving because there was
00:41:03.120no hunting possible uh of course you know if you try and draw the connections it might be that
00:41:09.920um remember the explosion of mount krakatoa in 1883
00:41:14.400and well that winter was probably one of the most hideous winters known in north american
00:41:21.040weather records ever you know we're looking at like 20 to 30 feet of snow you know across most
00:41:27.760of north america and that's that's what caused it but you know again people think well no i saw the
00:41:33.840buffalo were shot well actually on the great plains what was left to the buffalo was also
00:41:39.040was left of most of the cattle they died buried in snowdrifts that winter the in the spring there
00:41:45.680was nothing and again you know that was suddenly you you've got the the federal government going
00:41:52.240okay we've got all these indians coming out to all the different reservations and they're all0.95
00:41:56.400demanding food and all about that time was small parsimonious narrowly governed but suddenly i mean
00:42:05.120the demand for rations was incredible and we still haven't got the railroad bills
00:42:10.560again logistics how did they get food out to these reserves in the far west
00:42:17.360and and it's funny because i my my band actually does get its name from the massacre you named
00:42:23.200uh of course the massacre at cypress hills uh carry the kettle is my band's name and that has
00:42:28.320to do with going back to the kettle during the firefight uh with the whiskey traders and and i
00:42:34.080I mean, to your point of Indians making demands upon reservations, people throughout the West, First Nations throughout the West, coming to ask the government for help in this moment of crisis.
00:42:46.020Again, we look throughout the Indian Act.
00:42:47.820The Indian Act has all these rules around giving out shots and giving out the means for sustenance and self-sustaining and rights around fishing, around hunting.
00:42:59.540People think that it's just a laundry list of racism.
00:43:02.320It's like, no, it's a laundry list from a different era around these very issues, which are not issues anymore, because you can go to McDonald's at two in the morning.
00:43:47.940And, well, I mean, among other things, the whole object was to make sure that the First Nation survived.
00:43:56.940but yeah it was a victorian way of thinking that the way they do it is they all learn english and
00:44:02.060become farmers and we know you know because now that that was you know in some respects uh
00:44:09.660you can call it cultural genocide but cultural genocide as a term did not exist in the 80s it
00:44:15.740was not understood no no it wasn't understood at all the i think that as we kind of look at
00:44:25.660at the wider world then as and kind of try and take up a bit of an international scope here
00:44:29.960it seems like parts are moving very fast so so for canada i mean up until about 15 minutes ago i don't
00:44:36.740know how things are going over there in alberta but here in bc we might as well have you know
00:44:41.540iwo jima's secure as far as we're concerned over here in bc the pandemic is over people i don't
00:44:47.560know i i didn't really get the memo that the pandemic was hemming or hawing or waxing or
00:44:51.920waning but it's over like july 1 came and went bonnie henry put herself at the front of the
00:44:56.460parade and said yep don't worry i'm giving you all permission to do all the things you're already
00:45:00.260doing and nobody's wearing masks anymore and everything's basically over except for kind of
00:45:04.320some staff in some places at some stores so so that's over but now we're immediately pivoting
00:45:10.840into the wildfires and of course some of the church fire stuff but also the wildfires and
00:45:14.620then climate change it's like it's like rhetoric hasn't changed the same fevered pitch is there
00:45:18.760they're just singing a different tune um now it's climate change and and what's going on around the
00:45:23.880world there at an international level are you kind of seeing this same pivot people are no longer
00:45:30.040talking about the pandemic so much and they're immediately heading into into the question of
00:45:34.200climate change uh well actually in some respects i wish they were thinking about climate change uh
00:45:42.840and they aren't um instead it's the usual things that have come up and still came up well covet
00:45:49.640we were still dealing with kobe yeah and we might see another wave of kobe come as some of the uh
00:45:57.080south asian strains come creeping out and being appear we might be masked again but
00:46:03.080you know internationally it's almost like the same old same old um yeah again the palestinians and0.99
00:46:11.640you know their return is towards the israelis uh iran acting up china pushing and pushing and
00:46:18.840pushing and it's like pushing um you know at taiwan it's pushing at uh its other neighbors um
00:46:27.320and the russia is playing the crane again in fact actually um one of the things that most people
00:46:35.320missed was that the uh the russians provided another example of what they call uh what we
00:46:40.760call gray zone warfare where somebody who would drone with a thermite grenade into the ukraine's
00:46:46.920largest ammunition inventory and blew it up you know just thousands of tons of ammunition cooked
00:46:54.680off and you know it seems to have been done by a teenager with a drone and accidentally and not on
00:47:03.400purpose and very very strange and of course yeah the british are still trying to get uh
00:47:12.200have their eu cake and leave the table the same time and just uh the eu still trying to figure
00:47:19.320out what to do with the british and brexit and so global warming it doesn't seem to occur
00:47:27.000the the end of the epidemic doesn't really seem to be registering yet these are real problems
00:47:33.400no it's it's a fair point it's a fair point well let's let's start from let's we haven't talked
00:47:38.520about ukraine in a long time let's let's start there what i'm i'm remembering you know it feels
00:47:45.880like it was so long ago but honestly the ukrainian war cold war the crimea conflict whatever you want
00:47:50.860to call it it's not really that long ago i feel like i the the number 2014 comes to mind am i
00:47:56.460right on that 2014 yeah that's when uh the crimea was uh grabbed um and and again you're asking i
00:48:07.260think especially for angry calls from listeners depending on their own national backgrounds but
00:48:12.700um ukraine has been trying to come out of russia's shadow ever since and russia's been trying to drag0.63
00:48:19.260it back in it's like russians feel an emotional need that the ukraine is part of russia where
00:48:26.220ukrainians want to be very much out of russia's shadow um and of course you had the very end of0.90
00:48:33.020the soviet era the new boundaries of ukraine that were drafted by russians primarily to keep the
00:48:38.700ukraine tucked in of the soviet union so you've got the eastern ukraine that's sort of more ethnic
00:48:45.420russian than ukrainian and the crimea which is a well it was actually neither russian nor ukrainian
00:48:52.860until very very recently but also you have this sort of strange again gray zone conflict
00:49:00.460um for example um in kiev you suddenly had a power blockage you know the power system got hacked
00:49:07.340so the capital of ukraine was entirely blacked out accidentally not on purpose at the very same time
00:49:14.380you know unknown mercenaries and paramilitaries were taking over the crimea and the right and of
00:49:21.740course moscow's claiming oh it wasn't us it was these groups we don't know where they come from
00:49:26.700it was just like the other group of cossacks who shot down the malaysian airliner over the ukraine0.99
00:49:33.260you know they weren't actually russian military so all right so is a a cossack man but what the
00:49:39.740heck were they doing with surface-to-air missiles they can shoot down an international airliner
00:49:45.66030 000 feet up you know that military equipment that doesn't belong to a paramilitary
00:49:54.220and you have this on again and off again border war all along the uh the new frontier where the
00:50:02.060russians just keep pushing and again it's it's not the so it's not the russian military it's just
00:50:08.540There's paramilitary forces that happen to have multiple rocket launchers, modern tanks, are fully stocked with small arms and lots and lots of ammunition, and God knows how they got it, and Moscow's acting innocent.
00:50:26.700maybe maybe they've kind of taught us exactly how warfare goes nowadays you have to have non-state
00:50:34.300actors doing the state's work or else you're actually in a hot war and hot wars aren't allowed
00:50:40.060anymore ever since nagasaki but uh yes on the other hand i mean if you go all the way back to
00:50:47.0201648 in the treaty of westphalia you know we came out of the all the europe came out of the 30 years0.86
00:50:54.620war but before that they came out of centuries of warfare by private actors you know cities would
00:51:00.860declare war on each other you know the bishop might be fighting with a mercenary company a
00:51:05.900merchants league had its own warships out at sea and then suddenly it was you know the european
00:51:11.500countries go we're tired of this war is official now you've got everyone in a uniform with a
00:51:16.540commission from their national government national flags warfare is for states not for all these
00:51:23.660private actors but ever since 1990 you know the world is being made safer again how many times
00:51:32.620have you actually seen nation states in the last 30 years fight each other i guess iraq
00:51:40.620yeah basically you can probably count all the the nation state wars that were fought according to
00:51:47.820the old ways you know by national militaries answering the national governments on both sides
00:51:55.500on one hand with a finger or two left over instead what we have is a new world now where
00:52:03.260you know mercenaries paramilitaries corporations religious sects tribes are conducting war
00:52:11.820usually paying for it through organized crime uh narcotics and people smuggling especially
00:52:18.540but the other point is that the resources are becoming more and more available to them and
00:52:23.420most people don't don't really understand this but uh remember for example um uh a couple years ago
00:52:31.340jamaica was trying to stop gang wars in the slums of kingston jamaica and they sent in their army
00:52:37.900which got beaten you know the the drug gangs chased the the the uh the kings the army out of
00:52:45.820their own capital pakistan can't control what happens in its major cities anymore same thing0.72
00:52:52.220in nigeria you've got these permanent hot zones that even the national government can't interfere1.00
00:52:59.580in anymore um the same time we also have a growing number of people you know as we've seen like the
00:53:06.940the russians who you know somehow or other put thermite grenades on drones and fly them into0.54
00:53:12.540ammunition dumps uh or the uh the iranians who are supporting the how the militias in yemen
00:53:19.900were able to fire scud missiles at the capital of saudi arabia so the technology that's being
00:53:27.020provided to these people is growing and and we're getting to a stage now where in a few years
00:53:33.100Warfare might be like it was 800 years ago, a constant fact of life being waged by private actors with the best technology they can get going on around our lives continuously.
00:53:47.400Which is something that I think it'd be kind of interesting because that'd be kind of the Middle Easternization of the whole world in that case, because that's kind of been in the reality of the Middle East, I'm sure in other time periods.0.96
00:53:58.040but as we understand it in the modern time, really from the founding of Israel onwards?
00:54:04.560Well, remember that most of the Arab states in the 1950s and 1960s,
00:54:10.780you have the Nasser model, you know, the sort of socialist, nationalist, militaristic state government.
00:54:19.360But then after 1979, you suddenly got the Islamic militias creeping out and growing.0.91
00:54:26.520Now, some states are managing to hold it together, but others are completely dissolving.
00:54:33.940Libya, for example, is no longer really a national state.
00:54:42.560I mean, more or less since it's independence, whatever passes for the government in Yemen can control what happens within rifle shot of the presidential palace and not much else.
00:54:56.520But there are people interested in that territory and the territory is strategic. So there are hands dipping in there and pushing it.
00:55:05.760Maybe you can give us a bit of a kind of a survey or a kind of read on history on this question, then it was the state system a luxury.
00:55:15.580Was it just it happened to work for a time?
01:07:59.840But, you know, who was protecting the last of the Hurons?
01:08:02.540Who was sheltering the Mohawks, the Abenakis?1.00
01:08:06.600who was running schools for centuries you know in Quebec before the residential
01:08:12.660schools came up and again some of the points about some of the graveyards that
01:08:17.040are being found now I mean there's also Catholic clergy nursing sisters and
01:08:24.660brothers who are I think in one residential school cemetery in British
01:08:31.860Columbia there's three bishops buried in there who died looking after their
01:08:36.120charges or i i think another point about one of the epidemics that hit canada uh in the 1840s you
01:08:44.040know the uh typhus you know the uh you suddenly had hundreds and hundreds of people dying of typhus
01:08:54.200i think it was in toronto and almost all the nerd the medical staff and everyone else took off the
01:09:01.320disease was so frightening the city was abandoned there was two sets of people who would volunteer
01:09:07.080to stay behind and look after the sick and the burial catholic clergy and british military
01:09:15.320medical you know the medical officers from the british regiment and the catholic church
01:09:20.040were the only ones who stayed behind we don't teach that history
01:09:25.000i guess the other side of it too i mean some of the uh
01:09:27.480the great stories about the first nations i mean champlain surviving his first winter
01:09:34.980because the micmac are teaching him how to fight scurvy you know i always get a0.98
01:09:40.520samuel hearn a great slave lake i always thought that story probably one of the most noble ones
01:09:49.120in the whole history of canada who teaches it you know how basically his hosts were not going
01:09:55.560let him go continuous explorations in the in the wilderness in winter because they would not have
01:10:01.200it said that they would let a stranger die by themselves yeah i uh thinking about up north uh
01:10:10.880when i was up in churchill uh we actually my employer at the time he was very he was very
01:10:17.100into the story of samuel hern and so uh he not only was the boat called the sam hern the big
01:10:23.020boat that looks like a landing craft ready for d-day because of the gate on it and everything
01:10:27.200uh but uh also the you know the the learning center that he put together about about the
01:10:33.820northern journey and that sort of thing and the great the great overland journey through through
01:10:38.200the north uh at that time rupert's land in northwest territories eventually now none of it
01:10:43.180and of course the northwest territories it these are beautiful stories about canada but where
01:10:49.020where do they get taught and who's still reading robert's service i mean that's i think robert
01:10:54.500service did a better job of of explaining what canada was really about and he wasn't even born
01:10:59.100here uh but uh but there seems to have been so it's like it's like that original i think mark
01:11:04.800stein said it once of uh of what kind of happened in the post-war era the very end of the post-war
01:11:10.060era kind of the last edwardians i guess uh was was you know right before the the coronation of
01:11:18.040Elizabeth Wright at that time, Elizabeth II, that, you know, that Everest is summited, and,
01:11:25.660you know, there's the four-minute mile, and all these great heroes, and the same thing kind of
01:11:30.480happened in Canada for its first, you know, 60, 70 years of existence, and things seem to have
01:11:35.540kind of decamped from there. What happened to our sense of history? What happened to our sense of
01:11:42.160I guess there's three things that happened to our sense of history. One, we're too close to the United States and the American media.
01:11:52.160And so we keep hearing their stories and not our own. And then, of course, the second point is that, you know, there is this Canadian reticence, you know, that we don't talk about heroes much.
01:12:07.160and that's always been our problem you know that we're we're proud of the fact
01:12:12.260that we're not chest thumpers although we should do some chest thumping and then
01:12:18.000of course you know even before we could actually really get going I mean Pierre
01:12:22.420Burton was just starting to write his stories about you know details of
01:12:27.000Canadian history but the first post-modernists were coming out of our
01:12:30.620schools you know so again that story is just not remembered but heck you know the greatest
01:12:39.820triumph of the cbc and filmmaking was the canadian railroad series when when have they ever shown it
01:12:46.360since it came out in the 1980s i got to see that when i was a kid in school our uh our socials
01:12:55.600teacher had a copy of it or he had recorded it himself and so of course i still belong to the
01:13:01.340generation of kids that before smart screens and before tablets in the the the classroom so the big
01:13:07.920tv on the trolley gets pushed in and we're a great movie day well it turned out to be movie week
01:13:14.660because we were watching this for every period of the week probably almost two weeks of this
01:13:19.040canadian railroad thing right we're watching this thing and and it was amazing because like it it
01:13:24.060wasn't just like why did they ever like why haven't they shown it again it's just it's this beautiful
01:13:28.340work of art for like the time because it was so campy with the reenactments and everything else
01:13:33.300the the two that the two things that i will never forget are i guess there's three there was there
01:13:40.760was pierre burton beginning the introduction to it all when he literally said uh you know children
01:13:46.040were conceived to the sounds of the cpr going by that i remember i will never forget that uh the
01:13:52.640second one was that of course the the crazy american uh surveyor who got them through the
01:13:58.140rockies can't remember his name but that guy um and he wanted his check on the wall he was paid
01:14:04.460i don't know a million dollars or something uh back in the day and and he and so he cashed his
01:14:09.680check but he wanted to keep the the original and they they made some adjustments to it to show it
01:14:14.560couldn't be cashed again but he did keep his original on the wall and then there was the
01:14:19.560moment where they're dealing with the the tunnels that are being built through the fraser canyon
01:14:24.120and and of course a blast goes off too soon and unfortunately a a worker uh from from asia
01:14:32.520uh is killed but the the but the body is hung up on the edge of the fraser and and it results in
01:14:40.360literally a guy in in buckskin you know who kind of looks like me i guess without the beard uh but
01:14:47.080but isn't wearing the right costume for that area he's looking he looks like he's from a plains
01:14:51.960area he's not from the coast but that doesn't matter uh the point being that he all of a sudden
01:14:56.760pulls out a gunny stack some dynamite and a rope and proceeds to like lower it down upon the
01:15:02.200precipice where the body is and essentially send that body to where it belongs which is the river
01:15:07.880it's it's it's just this moment of like i remember watching this in school and being like
01:15:12.840this is insane like i can't believe they ever made this and it's like well i mean it was a different
01:15:18.200time but i i mean it's still a better story than most the post-modern stuff that we're coming out
01:15:23.000with today yeah and again it's part of our our national heritage and our myth and you know good
01:15:31.480bad and ugly there's a lot in there that we should be familiar with or you know uh i mean canadian
01:15:37.960military history is well covered if you're interested in it but I mean that's an option
01:15:45.480um you know again the saga of what we were doing in the first world war most Canadians don't have
01:15:52.520any idea and of course there's all sorts of other things and you know the heritage moments had uh
01:15:59.480their moments um and you know some of those stories are fine stories but uh
01:16:05.800There's a lot of details that still have to be covered.
01:16:09.060There's a thousand episodes that should be part of our national mythology
01:35:34.980Well, I mean, I don't really know what to say to that.
01:35:40.140Like, I don't want more Trudeau money and things, and I don't want more MeWe Foundation stuff, you know, going on around here.
01:35:47.840But at the same time, something I'm having to kind of swallow my pride on a bit is, quite frankly, being less of a Pharisee and less of a Puritan about some of this stuff.
01:36:03.260So, I mean, it's not that I have nothing good to say about my alma mater and that, whatever else, but, you know, kind of to the point of that scene in Monty Python's The Life of Brian.
01:36:17.320What have the Romans ever done for us?
01:39:22.840I would have loved to have been a part of that as a kid or, you know, younger and gotten involved in it.
01:39:29.060I've always had a, you know, a bit of a voice for radio sort of thing and enjoyed talking with people online and that sort of thing.
01:39:34.740Well, you know, in an interview setting, I mean.
01:39:36.920But, you know, I couldn't join the CBC. I couldn't do it. My values aren't there. Good things can come out of the CBC, I guess, the same point I was just making before, but my values aren't there. I really don't want to be a part of that.
01:39:54.780It makes me cringe, the idea of being a member of our national press, our federally funded press, that, you know, people are forced to pay for.
01:40:07.100I don't like the idea of people being forced to pay for something.
01:40:09.280and even though i want to tell canada story the real stories the stories from churchill from alert
01:40:14.440from yellow knight from white horse from you know leduc little pieces of canada part of that are so
01:40:21.480much bigger than the supposedly more popular places can i i'd love to do that and and zip
01:40:27.440around the country and do those interviews and maybe write opinion maybe write news whatever
01:40:31.320that'd be amazing to to have done that especially over the last 10 years but my values in the cbc
01:40:38.060they don't they don't mesh and i do believe that something like that needs to exist i don't think
01:40:43.900it should be net taxpayer subsidized but i'd throw that to the comments you guys tell me what that
01:40:48.540would look like i don't know if the western standard is going to figure that out but if they
01:40:51.600do they can tell me and i'll zip all over the place i'd love to spend two years in each of those
01:40:58.240places with my family have enough money for me and the family to move to each of these places
01:42:28.200the external ones are actually pretty useless the internal ones need a lot of work if we were all
01:42:35.140still going to call ourselves british colombians but i happen to be from the duchy of prince george
01:42:39.000or from you know the dukedom of north fraser or whatever i would prefer that i would love to say
01:42:43.880that i was a son of new caledonia you know it's like that's that's where i'm from i'm from you
01:42:48.340know yes i'm a british colombian but i'm a new i was born in new caledonia and i'm not like those
01:42:52.840coasties down south like i don't you know i know what winter is and i know how to shovel a driveway
01:42:57.540And I know, you know, I know how to build a, build a fence and whatever and, and, and, you know, stable up the cows. Like I know how to do that because I'm not from the coast. I'm not, I'm not from down South. I'm not stuck in, in urbanism. I'm, I'm, I'm a New Caledonian. And, and, and so for me, that's what I see when it comes to the monarchy sort of understanding.
01:43:18.880I guess maybe it's a more European understanding of monarchy is that kind of like the king is down the street.
01:43:23.760Not that the king doesn't have authority, but the king is he's a bit of a laid back philosopher king.
01:43:28.560He kind of strolls around, puffs his pipe and, you know, hands out free advice.
01:43:32.200And yes, he's the king. And yes, his family is the model of the nation to a point.
01:43:36.280But it comes from a more reserved place. And he's not he's just not that concerned about it.
01:43:42.620Maybe the pomp and circumstance could calm down a bit, but he probably should have a half decent place to live where he can host people.
01:43:48.240and that sort of thing. I don't know if he needs palaces
01:47:57.880you were born of parents you did not conceive yourself and you did not spring out of a hole in
01:48:02.680the ground uh so the family is the fundamental building brock building block of society
01:48:09.640we have to build it we have to make it easier to have a family than not have a family we have to
01:48:13.720make it easier to be married and stay married than not and and so i guess what i'm trying to get to
01:48:19.880there is that when it comes to the teachers and the questions of their socialism i think a lot
01:48:24.840of teachers are actually especially when they get married and they have kids they actually become
01:48:29.480slightly more socially conservative they don't want their kids put into adult films or the
01:48:34.440viewership of adult people right in sexual stuff they don't want that they don't want uh their
01:48:39.720child to be fundamentally confused about their gender or their genitals or any of that stuff
01:48:43.800they don't want that stuff um if and and so i think that the ultimate question is you know
01:48:51.640the the fact of the matter is that most people i think are kind of pocketbook conservatives who
01:49:02.120can get on side with some social conservative values as long as they're presented in the right
01:49:07.180way which is nobody wants their daughter to end up having to sell her body nobody wants their son
01:49:13.360addicted to drugs everybody wants their kids to have a a good work-life balance everybody wants
01:49:20.780their kids to have as good of a life or better than they had. And everybody wants their grandchildren
01:49:25.500to grow up in a better world. That's what people want. There's nothing wrong with conservatives
01:49:31.340finding a way to articulate those ideas, even from a more socially conservative stance of virtue,
01:49:37.760faith and family, or at least putting forward that the family must come first. And I'm going to say
01:49:43.080once I say it again, if you are someone listening to this broadcast, and you think that somehow,
01:49:47.160some way the world is supposed to be geared to you and your otherhood which is a which is a play on
01:49:52.760motherhood right but your otherhood you're not going to be a father you're not going to be a
01:49:55.720mother you don't think it's your job to raise the next generation you don't you know you think that
01:50:01.340an urbanite single life is all that's good for you and you don't care about anybody enough to
01:50:08.860marry them and suffer with them through what is the the cross but also the reward of family life
01:50:14.500I honestly don't really want your vote or enfranchisement in any public policy decisions or debates whatsoever, except for how small exactly do you want your individual containers to be for your silly little consumeristic lifestyle when you go to the store that sells the very small individualistic containers because going to Costco would be food that spoils for you because it's too much food.
01:50:37.220Yeah, I don't I don't really want your vote and everything.
01:50:39.540You can get on the same train as Julie Payette that I was talking about earlier, as far as I'm concerned.
01:50:43.580but because you were not born of yourself and you have a responsibility to make sure that this
01:50:50.240civilization continues and so you can either help with that or you can get out of the way would be
01:50:56.260my my vote but if you're interested in helping with it do vote for the parties that are going
01:51:02.880to make it easier for that to happen and not harder so that's my two cents on that so um
01:51:10.240I think that's about it for today's program.
01:51:12.840I had some stern things to say at the end there.