00:01:00.000hello and good morning welcome to mountain standard time i'm your host nathan gita
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00:01:53.760show well uh we've got some shocking revelations obviously outside out of Kamloops uh today so
00:02:01.100that's Kamloops British Columbia that's another kind of regional center uh if Prince George is
00:02:06.160the northern capital of British Columbia and while Kelowna is the big city in the southern interior
00:02:11.600Kamloops because it's on the number one highway is essentially kind of the traverse spot between
00:02:17.640Vancouver and Calgary uh everything that's traffic on the number one goes through there
00:02:22.860And it's a pretty major center as well.
00:02:24.300In fact, a lot of regional headquarters, because it's cheaper than building them in Vancouver and housing them there, where things are quite expensive, are actually in Kamloops.
00:02:33.360So shocking revelations about the Kamloops Residential School appeared in the media this week.
00:02:37.900The remains of over 200 Aboriginal children were found to have been buried there.
00:02:42.180From the reporting that has been given so far, one could be led to believe that all the children were killed with an intent at once by the brothers, sisters, and padres running the school.
00:02:54.660Of course, that's not what happened, but that's the kind of thing that is sort of being hinted at in the reporting, and our shock from the tragedy is overriding our ability to critically think about that.
00:03:06.100Being a status First Nation, though I prefer the label Indian myself, I'm a status Indian, that's what it says on my card.
00:03:12.180especially with my views, is not an easy vocation.
00:03:15.540I don't regret the white man coming to our shores.
00:06:43.680the reporting is making it sound as if,
00:06:46.320You know, this was Auschwitz. Children were all taken there at once and they all died at once via execution. That is not what happened. And we need to be very careful about that. That's a very dangerous line of thinking to take up. That's not what happened.
00:07:00.860What happened was, over the course of several years, at a residential school where, yes, children may have been there after having been ripped away from their parents, I fully acknowledge that that could have happened, and some of those children were there at the willing consent of their parents, and maybe not as willing either.
00:07:17.620but nonetheless far away from home under the care of others sicknesses happened pandemics occurred
00:07:26.560we're in a pandemic right now what would we say about let's say a foreign exchange student is here
00:07:32.340in canada right now it's a different thing but it's not a different thing back then traveling
00:07:36.240was very hard today traveling is very easy except in the middle of a pandemic the foreign exchange
00:07:40.960student in the charge of someone else especially if they're a minor right so they're they're
00:07:44.920literally on one of those immersion exchanges which i've seen several uh far eastern uh far
00:07:50.320eastern people groups send their children to live in canada with a canadian family like to live there
00:07:55.840uh fully basically fully immersed into that family it's all but a not a foster family but
00:08:00.700they're fully immersed right they live with that family and they attend school um in order to get
00:08:06.240perfect english and everything else um imagine if one of those children died of covid or something
00:08:12.240else while in the charge of another family that would be a terrible tragedy an absolutely terrible
00:08:18.400tragedy and due to the fact that infant mortality and child mortality has gone astronomically down
00:08:23.760since about 1850 onwards right since we started washing our hands that that would look like a
00:08:29.860terrible tragedy and it indeed it would be but nonetheless if this was happening not even at a
00:08:35.840frequent rate but the analogy i'm trying to draw here at least the equivalency i'm trying to draw
00:08:40.440is that this is not much different from that to a point
00:10:04.100You know, I don't want, I do feel solidarity with Aboriginals throughout Canada in this sense. And nobody wants, nobody wants that. Nobody wants to wake up one morning and find out that, that people that you are a part of in, in one way or another, tangentially perhaps, have, have suffered another tragedy. Nobody wants that.
00:10:27.340and so I will admit I'm a little emotional about that
00:14:02.480where again most of the children in care are to use the politically correct term indigenous
00:14:08.500they're indians like me that they come from complicated backgrounds some of which are
00:14:13.360scars from the residential school system no question and and due to their parents and their
00:14:18.380grandparents and everything else and further to that they are held in care and then they're
00:14:25.020surrounded by people who of course because of the status system that we're in have a particular
00:14:29.800their political bent to them for one for every one conservative at the cra i happen to know the one
00:14:35.420uh there are 99 you know people who are left of center and think the state is always a good thing
00:14:42.220and that's the way it is whenever whatever status system you're in health care education we have big
00:14:47.600state systems and so for every one person who thinks maybe the the office could pinch a few
00:14:52.640more pennies and like maybe not be so extravagant or maybe we need to think through these problems
00:14:56.480and not just go with woke hr theory around things and terminology uh everybody else is just
00:15:02.560swallowing the kool-aid you know or they're doing it just to keep their jobs which is almost worse
00:15:06.780because we're because then we're lying to ourselves right so we're lying to keep our jobs
00:15:10.080and pay our mortgages right none of us should be lying and that's been the big thing with the
00:15:13.460pandemic we need to we need to stop the lies because the lies are the virus right that's
00:15:19.440pretty clear so but the point that i'm trying to draw here is that you've got these children in
00:15:24.720care a big state systems full of people who inherently trust whatever is being handed out
00:15:31.540in the literature of the last staff meeting and obviously between academia and what's happening
00:15:38.120throughout the big state and our government agencies woke ideas around gender and sexuality
00:15:46.100and race are pervasive and so somebody out there is essentially telling children because it is and
00:15:53.520this is happening. There's lots of children being transitioned in BC. And we're going to talk about
00:15:57.860this with Chris a little later. They are committing an act of certainly ethnically biased, right?
00:16:04.580Because there's a particular group of people that are overrepresented in foster care in British
00:16:08.860Columbia. That's aboriginals. They're telling them that, you know, you were born in the wrong body
00:16:15.080and we should change that. And transitioning in BC happens very quickly, extremely quickly.
00:16:22.760and we need to be very careful about that uh it's it's a scary thing you know um it's i think that
00:16:31.700i think that again you know i i personally of course have no truck with with the idea of uh
00:16:38.420i have no truck with the idea of of having of being born in the wrong body and that sort of
00:16:44.660thing i think that uh god gave us the bodies we have for a reason and i believe that while there
00:16:50.440can be plenty of dysphoria like i i if i were if i were going to look at you and say oh i know
00:16:54.740exactly what it means to be a true man and to be a good a good white knight you know or to be a good
00:16:59.920to be the proper perfect man i don't i don't you know i i think i think like any man who actually
00:17:07.720bothers to think about these things certainly certainly in the christian world i come from
00:17:12.400questions around what does it really mean to be a man and like how to be i guess you could say
00:17:17.740godly and that sort of thing. But the point is to be a virtuous man. What does it mean to be
00:17:21.760virtuous? What does it mean to be a man? And I'm assuming that on the female side, a lot of this
00:17:26.480is a part of that as well. Though I do believe female biology by its inherent nature, the way
00:17:32.760that womanhood comes upon a young woman, that happens differently for men. And so I do believe
00:17:42.240there's an asymmetry between the sexes here. We can get into that another time. But the point is
00:17:46.340that I'm not going to tell you that there's no such thing as being confused or wrestling with
00:17:51.080the question of, well, I have these biological parts, but I also don't know what it means
00:17:56.240properly to be holistically a man psychologically in my soul and my spirit, who I am as a man
00:18:02.460or a woman, and then into the wider world, what does it mean to be a man out in the world,
00:18:09.500to be a woman out in the world, what those tensions between those things, the biological
00:18:13.560reality, the internal reality, and the external reality. That's not the argument. The argument is
00:18:18.920that the solution to that, my proposition would be the solution that is not surgery and puberty
00:18:26.040blockers. I would say that deep internal reflection, and then, you know, back and forth
00:18:32.560with your peers, particularly any experts in this field, which I would prefer, of course,
00:18:37.140due to my religion, a philosophical and religious sort of perspective on that. But
00:18:42.320back and forth on that question with the understanding being underlying your biological
00:18:47.880gender, your sexual reality that you can see pretty clearly at birth, right? That's what we
00:18:57.460want people to be. We want them to holistically identify with how they were born. And we need to
00:19:04.020do that not by radical surgery, obviously, and changing them, but rather by helping them find
00:19:09.400that identity and that grounding inside of what it is to be a man or a woman. And it's a difficult
00:19:15.220task. It's not easy. It's been talked about for a long time. So I think that we need to be clear
00:19:23.140about this, that especially in British Columbia, there's a serious issue going on here. And I
00:19:28.320think there's a perfect segue here between what's going on in Kamloops and what's going on when it
00:19:32.360comes to questions around uh transgenderism and and all the rest of it and the kind of the woke
00:19:38.840ideology that's going on and i mean i mean actually there's there's a point here too because
00:19:43.420because let's let's do this two ways i've been using the term theocracy for a long time now on
00:19:48.620this show i mean we're on episode uh 25 or so so we've been at this just over eight weeks um
00:19:55.680and i think that i think that what we need to understand is a lot of people say well the reason
00:20:01.960the residential schools were so bad is because they were religious and that sort of thing it's
00:20:05.500like well then in i mean i'm saying it now but in another 20 years too when we realized that a lot
00:20:11.500of the things that were going wrong inside of a lot of the things that were going wrong inside of
00:20:17.060public schools today are happening also because they are religious institutions i'm going to
00:20:23.260throw that right back at you you you make a profession of faith today in a public school
00:20:28.240every time you say nobody is different it's like actually no everybody's different everybody is
00:20:35.580one a unique soul made by god and a beautiful creature that he hand molded in the womb but
00:20:40.180further to that on a purely material level no two people even identical twins are exactly alike
00:20:46.000no two people are exactly alike not at all not in a single part of their anatomy are they exactly
00:20:52.480the same uh and not in their psychology either and not in their mannerisms and not in their
00:20:57.260characteristics people are individuals and they aren't all the same and there's a diversity in
00:21:03.620that individuality it is not a conformity of diversity and color and race and sexual orientation
00:21:10.260are just some of the categories where people can be different it is not it is not the only way is
00:21:19.300to identify yourself and and i think that we need to understand right diversity is our strength
00:21:25.540and and even anti-bullying the idea that there might be tensions between different people
00:21:32.040it's not that i want people to bully but the idea that there isn't going to be well quite frankly
00:21:37.120there will always be a hierarchy but apparently now the people on top aren't the people who can
00:21:41.940take your lunch money the people on top are the people who can browbeat you the best i don't know
00:21:46.520if that's a better world i don't know if that's a better world the browbeaters i find to be quite
00:21:53.600neurotic self-important and sanctimonious i don't know if i i think i might prefer just the old
00:21:59.600schoolyard bully because the school marms are far worse far worse we just lived through it in
00:22:05.600covet it's not worth it and i think that kind of there's there's something to be said about this
00:22:11.960when it comes to this question it's like well the residential schools were badly run because
00:22:15.580the people of religious conviction they were just going to answer to god they weren't going to answer
00:22:18.760anyone else do you think the wokies who are running our public schools right now are do they
00:22:24.000answer to anybody they care do they answer to god they don't answer to god they don't even believe
00:22:29.700in a final judgment they they answer to a higher power of ideology and every child must be
00:22:37.180indoctrinated every child even the good even the well-behaved let alone the badly behaved child
00:22:41.900or whatever they wanted they want to curb into their own little personal project but you know
00:22:47.220even the most amical kind people who they know kind of vote conservative and or whatever right
00:22:52.580wing and have guns at home and go to church on a Sunday when they were still allowed to go to
00:22:56.500church I guess we're allowed back at church now in British Columbia but even the most kind of
00:23:00.160middle of the road 90s religious family you know because I was born in the 90s like I remember
00:23:06.940that kind of weird point in history where not everything was completely ideological at least
00:23:12.100it wasn't all at the surface and like people who were religious and people who who were who went
00:23:19.540to church on a sunday one they weren't as uncommon and two they they didn't feel completely out of
00:23:25.540sync with their culture they had a lot of questions about it and they were they were very upset about
00:23:30.040abortion about kind of where same-sex unions were going of course that happened into the
00:23:35.180same-sex marriage they were worried about some of those things they were worried about about
00:23:42.020you know children being kind of given a more therapeutic view at school instead of
00:23:46.800just being pushed through math and and you know writing and grammar and rhetoric and logic the
00:23:51.560old liberal arts or the new the new categories for those things language arts and and and the
00:23:57.020ability to do basic math and science and figure things out for yourself and play on the school
00:24:00.920ground and just kind of sort out your own life we had questions about all that but we were kind of
00:24:06.520in the middle of the road and people felt for the most part they felt pretty safe inside of their
00:24:11.100enclaves and uh i think that the i think that the issue is that like i said i'm already saying it
00:24:22.620today you know well the reason that the public schools aren't doing so well is that they answer
00:24:27.780to a higher power and that higher power is ideology and that ideology is incredibly inhuman
00:24:32.500and it makes slaves of us all terrible violent slaves uh to ourselves and to others uh and so
00:24:39.780you go ahead and say whatever you want about the residential school system i'm i'm not here to
00:24:43.380fight about the residential school system i'm here to proclaim that the public school system that we
00:24:48.340have today throughout canada throughout the western world but but certainly here in british
00:24:52.800columbia even even here in my hometown but definitely down definitely down in the lower
00:24:57.440mainland uh it's gotten out of control and there is an ideology running the system an ideology
00:25:03.740where standardized testing no that's racist or it's wrong or trying to put kids through a
00:25:07.900provincial exam that's just a wrong way of doing things but telling them all that they were born
00:25:12.420in the wrong body so that it's okay to think that you were born in the wrong body or it's okay
00:25:16.340to change something about yourself fundamentally uh when you are a child before you're old enough
00:25:23.080to drive a car or buy a cigarette or go to the cannabis store or and we don't even have to talk
00:25:28.680about advices get married without your parents consideration i think the youngest age you can
00:25:33.380get married in canada out in quebec i think it actually is below 16 with permission but still
00:25:38.520below 16 but the point is that go ahead and tell me that's not a belief system a religion and a
00:25:48.580fundamentalist one of that you know uh and it and it gets violent uh when we do get chris on here
00:25:55.100uh we'll talk about that because we know that he's been attacked you know he's been attacked
00:25:59.700and something you know when that happens like that's it's very wrong it's very wrong
00:26:05.860so i think that what we need to do is we need to take a deep breath and we need to be honest
00:26:12.980about the fact that what happened in kamloops was wrong uh we don't want children to die
00:26:19.340in the care of other people whether whether they whether the person exerted as much duty as care
00:26:25.520if possible, or was an abusive, terrible, evil, wicked person. Obviously, no child deserves to die
00:26:32.180at the hands of another person or by the neglect of another person. And all deaths, especially
00:26:38.120amongst children, are a tragedy when even when that person did their best and that person and
00:26:43.120that child unfortunately dies from a disease or something. That's awful or in an accident. That's
00:26:47.940awful. And people don't forgive themselves for that if they have a conscience. Well, it's not
00:26:52.360that that's their fault necessarily if it's complete accident or disease but i mean nobody
00:26:55.660nobody ever forgets that is what i'm trying to say no one ever forgets but if that's the attitude
00:27:00.540and the amount of pearl clutching we're going to do over what happened in kamloops that's that's
00:27:05.540fine and we should and we need to grieve and we need to have catharsis so we need to we need to
00:27:10.280address the issue that was there but simultaneously then we need to be honest about the ongoing
00:27:17.160violence against children that's happening right now when it comes to the transgender issue
00:27:22.100And, you know, it's one thing to be an adult and to decide that you are going to change everything about yourself, perhaps just with the way you dress, or perhaps in the way you talk, or perhaps the name you call yourself, all the way up to radical, radical alterations done with a scalpel that cannot be undone in any seamless way, to put it as politely as possible.
00:27:52.100uh that's one thing as an adult it's quite another thing for a child and we mean children children
00:28:02.340um and we need to be honest about that and in 20 years i mean me i'm a crazy guy out in the
00:28:08.660wilderness right now you know these darn public school systems said with the same kind of sneer
00:28:14.180as others say of the residential schools those residential schools well these public schools
00:28:18.900schools in general right now curricula the curricula of british columbia and other places
00:28:23.860like the same derision that people have even religious people nowadays some of them anyways
00:28:29.620have for residential schools i'm saying i'm using that same kind of sneer and tone
00:28:34.420and glare towards the question of our current curriculum to say look like we are teaching kids
00:28:41.220wicked ideas wicked and we're doing it actively not passively this isn't just neglect this is an
00:28:46.740act of choice that's being made and you know the irony the irony is that we are looking at a higher
00:28:55.380we are looking at a higher power here we're looking at uh the ideology and uh we need to be
00:29:02.500honest about that we've got some comments here we're still just waiting for our our beloved
00:29:08.580guest in the wings he'll he'll be along shortly i'm very very sure um but let's let's look at some
00:29:16.500some of the stuff we've got on the wings here uh so the albertan is back that's good to see him
00:29:21.060that's good to see you from our new location the church has many abuses to answer for but it would
00:29:25.580be an injustice to claim that such abuses are the sole domain of religion the state is complicit in
00:29:30.220this as well yeah well i mean and that's totally true we're going to bring our guest on in just a
00:29:34.220moment but but we need to be very clear about that as well thank and thank you for bringing that up
00:29:38.240because the truth is that it didn't happen it did not happen without the expressed consent of the
00:29:44.440state when it comes to residential schools and for that matter they paid for it right that we used
00:29:49.220tax dollars to help make these things happen so let's be clear about that that guilt is on all
00:29:54.360of us in that respect it was a public project and so let's be honest about that we don't get to
00:30:00.700call any exemption for that so we're going to bring on our our favorite billboard chris there
00:30:06.480is only one billboard chris but we've got chris elson on today and he's going to tell us a little
00:30:10.960bit more about what's happening in the world of fighting for the innocence of children and trying
00:30:16.200to trying to bring bc and the rest of the world back to sanity welcome to the program chris
00:30:20.800thank you nathan it's good to be here again thanks for having me it's great to have you of course
00:30:26.720always again i just want to just want to warn both the viewers and yourself that we did just move to
00:30:32.060a new location and so we're hoping the internet's going to hold out the whole way through it could
00:30:36.240get a little choppy but we're pretty sure we're in uh we got enough bandwidth and there's not
00:30:40.040enough traffic anywhere else right now we should be okay but just want to just as a head in case
00:30:44.280people drop off for what's happening um let's start from the top here i mean i think you're
00:30:49.260about to go on a big trip you didn't just come back from you're telling me that you're about to
00:30:52.720go on one what's what's the trip for chris yeah i just came back from a little trip i went to
00:30:58.000colonna calgary and edmonton awesome um because i hang out in busy locations and i have conversations
00:31:06.300with people about the harm coming at children who are being lied to in our schools and on social
00:31:13.580media and wherever else into believing that it is possible for them to change their sex
00:31:20.220and that it's just a simple matter of deciding because these kids are taught
00:31:25.180that their gender identity is their true self and gender identity is basically
00:31:30.300just an entire the whole this whole ideology gender ideology is based on stereotypes so
00:31:39.220gender ideology teaches children that stereotypes determine what sex they are so if a girl is more
00:31:46.680masculine that means she's a boy or maybe she's halfway to being a boy on the on the spectrum
00:31:52.460and if a boy is more effeminate then that means he has a girl brain or something
00:31:58.620uh the ideology changes its own rules all the time but we're teaching kids and it's primarily
00:32:03.820affecting girls that they can just opt out of their sex and they can go on these harmful puberty
00:32:10.860blocking drugs it's a drug called lupron in north america that stops puberty from occurring so you
00:32:17.500can imagine all the things that happen during puberty won't happen and then after that they
00:32:21.500always go on to the next step which is the opposite sex is hormones so girls are taking
00:32:26.060testosterone boys are taking estrogen and oftentimes these girls are getting mastectomies
00:32:31.420done at the age of 14 15 16 even without parental approval and i don't think the first answer to a
00:32:40.380child who's having some distress regarding their gender i don't think the first thing we do should
00:32:47.340be stick them immediately on pharmaceutical drugs which have never been tested for purpose
00:32:52.300and then give them cosmetic surgeries to alter their appearance to be more like the other sex
00:32:57.080i think this is a bit mental i think that's slightly insane chris i have to agree with you
00:33:03.040uh it it also kind of kind of hits me that it seems i mean if you tried to float this idea
00:33:09.840before we kind of got to the boiling point that we're at now with everybody just turning up the
00:33:14.520heat just a little bit while we were just kind of falling asleep in that pot uh if you tried to
00:33:19.060bring this idea up even even 10 years ago and said yeah no this is what we're going to start
00:33:23.660doing with kids i'm like i'm going to take you know i'm going to tell your little girl who's not
00:33:28.080even 12 yet not puberty i'm going to explain to her that she is now a boy and don't worry i've
00:33:33.940got some drugs in one hand and a scalpel in the other and she's going to look like you know the
00:33:38.800most beautiful boy who ever lived once i'm done with her i think i think you might get punched
00:33:42.780for that a couple of years back i think that would i think that would go badly for that advocate
00:33:47.500it's weird now you're saying the opposite yeah because i have been punched a few times and
00:33:55.700gotten my arm broken in montreal and you were talking about another big trip i'm going on
00:33:59.780another trip at the end of this week i leave on saturday for toronto and then i'm heading up to
00:34:04.620ottawa and i might get one day in quebec city but i'm there for eight days i'm gonna park myself
00:34:12.180outside ottawa for three or four of those days outside parliament and uh yeah i just go on a bit
00:34:20.900of faith but when you put yourself out there sometimes good things happen so i've read with
00:34:25.140politicians there in the past and hopefully i do again but at the very least these trips
00:34:30.420are always a success because i'm always talking people and i'm always uh spreading gospel of
00:34:37.060gender truth to them and so then when these parents learn what's going on then they can
00:34:41.460protect their own children because people have no idea what is in our
00:34:45.140school system and what we're teaching our kids and i
00:34:48.420see this as an emergency because when i'm out there on the streets
00:34:51.700and i see a group of four young girls you know young adult women
00:34:56.260university age high school age i know almost every time i'm about to get
00:35:02.660uh in some heat because this ideology is not
00:35:07.140has not just been accepted by a few it has been accepted
00:35:11.460by the masses in high school or university, they almost all believe it, except for the boys.
00:35:21.300There's a big discrepancy between the sexes on this issue. Now, a lot of boys are buying into
00:35:27.280this ideology, or they at least buy into that they need to be kind and be nice and not, you know,
00:35:33.140ruffle any feathers about it. And of course, it's always good to be kind. But it's not kind to say
00:35:39.080nothing when children are being sterilized all across this country and so at the very least
00:35:46.920i'll do my bit to have one conversation at a time and raise awareness and uh this transgender craze
00:35:52.920that's seducing our daughters to borrow the title from abigail fryer's book irreversible damage
00:35:58.440is a giant problem and the politicians won't listen they actually know exactly what's going on
00:36:03.240but it's too hot for them to touch so i just do my part to keep the heat on and that's and that's
00:36:13.800what we have to start with i mean until until politicians are going to listen and and start
00:36:18.520well quite frankly banning banning transitioning before you are of age to consent yourself and at
00:36:24.080that point i mean i'm not i i personally still don't agree with that but i but due to the
00:36:29.840constitution in the world we live in i mean i must i must admit that that would be under someone's
00:36:34.820charter rights to make that decision once they're of the age of majority but certainly not before
00:36:40.120um i think something that could be brought up here i tried i tried to make this connection
00:36:44.700in my opening statement i'm not sure if you caught much of it i in my opening statement i was trying
00:36:50.140to draw a connection between what happened in kamloops we've had this shocking revelation
00:36:55.280obviously of the children being found uh a grave site unfortunately and i mean unfortunately also
00:37:03.320not a surprise anymore to a lot of us that and that that this has happened and this is evil and
00:37:08.980terrible and that's bad at the same time people are so dismissive of that they're like well that
00:37:14.640was the residential school system i mean these people were believing in a higher power and
00:37:19.280because they believe in a higher power anything went they did whatever they wanted and it didn't
00:37:22.880matter and i i sit here i kind of sat here just before you got on i said look like people are
00:37:27.260going to say that 20 years from now about the current curriculum that's indoctrinating children
00:37:31.520when it comes to transgenderism i'm saying it now i sound like a crazy person today or somebody can
00:37:36.580try and cancel me today but you know what like in 20 years people people are going to have to admit
00:37:43.220that hey sterilizing all these kids that was pretty terrible too that's all that's as bad as
00:37:47.960this grave site we've just found but are they going to admit that well politicians will never
00:37:55.140admit anything they just twist the narrative and say that they were against this all along but
00:38:00.640you know Nathan one important point on that is I just saw a chart this morning actually about 19
00:38:10.240percent of canada who are given these sterilizing chemically castrating drugs and surgeries are
00:38:19.920indigenous which is totally out of proportion i think the indigenous population canada is only
00:38:26.880two or three percent or something like that don't call me on that
00:38:29.920but the numbers of indigenous children transitioning are way too high
00:38:33.760some reasons for that are the foster system where 55 percent of kids are indigenous and then we get
00:38:43.540maniacs in British Columbia like this psychologist Wallace Wong who on camera has admitted to
00:38:51.340transitioning for 1,000 children including over 500 who are in the foster system so you're
00:38:58.420absolutely right once again indigenous children are being forgotten about
00:39:03.800experimented on and no one's there to advocate for them so we have a crisis
00:39:11.700easily as big as what happened with the residential schools in terms of numbers
00:39:17.300of children we're going to see far greater numbers because this is
00:39:21.180affecting thousands and then tens of thousands over the years and it's all a
00:39:29.460lie it's all a lie every single thing that these trans activists or these
00:39:36.580gender extremists say is untrue they say puberty blockers are just a pause button
00:39:43.060that you can fully reverse they're fully reversible you know that there's no
00:39:50.300damage done but if you put a child from the age of 11 on puberty blockers until she's 17
00:39:58.460how do you get back those six years of development obviously you don't don't come
00:40:03.020off puberty blockers and then go through puberty until you're 23. puberty's gone you'll never get
00:40:10.060it back and they've also in that time because we've seen from the studies in the gender clinics
00:40:15.500themselves about 98 or 99 of these children go on to the next step of this process because it is a
00:40:23.140process it's puberty blockers which is this drug called lupron then it is cross-sex hormones and
00:40:30.780it's also surgery and more and more kids young adults who have detransitioned are speaking up
00:40:38.320now 60 minutes at a seven minute segment on their hour-long program it was the whole program was
00:40:44.720about different trans issues but they focused seven minutes interviewing these
00:40:48.500four different de-transitioners and it was heartbreaking because these kids all
00:40:53.480told the same story how they were rushed into these medical procedures this one
00:40:59.720boy he was only three months into the process before he got castrated so he'd
00:41:07.960gone on estrogen and then three months later oh okay time to chop off your
00:41:11.820testicles we've permanently damaged this boy he's now a detransition he's now a young man
00:41:17.760look what we've done and these doctors don't know these kids last time i was in audible
00:41:25.020a mom came out to protest with me and she told me that this 14 year old girl had gone to chio
00:41:32.860which katherine mckenna is promoting right now our liberal politician um this kid had just gone
00:41:40.460into chio and after one 20-minute appointment had been injected with lupron and this drug just so
00:41:45.980people know this drug was originally given fda approval to treat prostate cancer and then
00:41:50.880endometriosis in women there's never been one single clinical study done for the purpose this
00:41:58.160drug is being used which is to stop puberty it just happens to do that what it does is it stops
00:42:02.980the pituitary gland from releasing luteinizing hormone which in turn trigger the testes to
00:42:09.260produce testosterone and triggers the ovaries estrogen females so none of this happens so
00:42:15.420none of your secondary sex characteristics which should be developing during puberty will happen
00:42:22.700and these doctors do this right away first appointment these endocrinologists they will
00:42:30.060give these kids lupron to stop puberty happening and one of the lies that these trans activists
00:42:36.940tell us is oh it's just used so the child can then explore their gender identity and figure out what
00:42:41.980to do well that sounds all very almost sort of okay not really but if you weren't thinking much
00:42:51.740you could say oh okay that makes sense but that's not how this happens they go on these
00:42:57.980rocking drugs they always go on to the hormones and now they're permanently altered for life
00:43:01.820every single time you can't reverse it it's not a pause button even after you come off of lupron
00:43:08.700it takes quite a while and a good system to get back function properly on its own
00:43:15.820i've run into parents whose children have been on lupron uh for other reasons such as a condition
00:43:22.380known as precocious puberty where kids are going into puberty very early in like four or five years
00:43:27.820they used this drug to pause puberty then but then they take these kids off it and they're
00:43:33.180supposed to hit puberty at a normal age and even then it's a long time for them to get back going
00:43:38.700properly if it ever does at all so there's just a whole host of problems and this is a medical
00:43:46.220scandal this is nothing to do with bigotry towards gender transgender whatever this is a medical
00:43:53.820scandal we have seen a four thousand five thousand percent increase in the nerve kids going to these
00:43:58.220gender clinics we used to have a handful of these gender clinics across north america now there's
00:44:02.380five or six hundred of them there's wait lists at all these places they're going to keep opening up
00:44:07.100more to satisfy the demand this is just basic capitalism and it is capitalism because it's a
00:44:13.660billion dollar industry for the pharmaceutical industry and for doctors who are making a hundred
00:44:17.580thousand to pop on these sex change operations i mean this is this is the nature of industry right
00:44:26.460this is the nature of any industrial complex that surrounds any social ill it it makes for good
00:44:32.220money uh and i mean this isn't we're not here to discuss the residential question and there were
00:44:38.060bad things that happened that's not being argued but again even there an entire grievance industry
00:44:44.700has been built up and and lots of lots of hand waving and not a lot of action on the actual
00:44:50.700things that might need to change to help aboriginal people in canada coming back to
00:44:55.180this question of advocating for children especially on the question section where where is that other
00:45:00.780alternative voice i believe i believe you're doing it where where else is anybody talking
00:45:05.980about how this is this is killing our kids and this is wrong and it's and it's robbing us of
00:45:11.340of their of their future their own personal future being a parent a mother a father and raising their
00:45:17.560own biological offspring and for those who are adopted i'm adopted it's not a problem to adopt
00:45:23.040i just mean that that potential whether they know it or not whether they are actually fertile or not
00:45:27.540that's a different question but they're being robbed of it before before their you know the
00:45:32.280testicles even drop or their ovaries even activate a lot of these kids are transitioning before
00:45:37.700they've ever even held someone's hand or kissed a boy they're destroying all their future sexual
00:45:43.700function forever it's just a mess these kids aren't kids that grew up with gender dysphoria
00:45:49.460so i'll answer your question in a second let me just backtrack a little bit gender dysphoria is
00:45:53.940a condition where there's an incongruity between your birth sex and i guess how you feel and
00:46:01.220that's all based on stereotypes of course because we associate certain stereotypes with being a boy
00:46:05.620and we associate other ones with being a girl so gender non-conformity is a beautiful thing
00:46:09.860if a boy is more feminine girls more masculine whatever go dress however you please um
00:46:16.980but when you're 12 years old we shouldn't be stopping your biological processes and
00:46:22.900doing cosmetic surgeries on you when you're 14 chopping off your breasts like this is
00:46:26.580absolutely nice anyway where are all the people talking about this well you're talking about it
00:46:31.060it right now. There's some other podcasters in Canada doing some things. There's feminists who
00:46:36.820are mainly talking online, which is not enough. We need people on the streets. So the answer to
00:46:42.460your question is there's really nobody. There's just me out on the streets talking to everyday
00:46:48.280people. And I don't say that to some braggadocious or something because I wish there were 10,000
00:46:54.400people and I wish I didn't have to do this and I could just go mow my lawn and spend time in my
00:46:58.680garden but I felt it was really important to get on in the street and talk to
00:47:02.280everybody the media or what's going on and in fact they're doing opposite all
00:47:07.020of our mainstream media are pushing this narrative the government is pushing it
00:47:10.920this is coming into more and more schools all the time it's real PC but
00:47:16.240it's still getting taught more and more and the rest of Canada is in this
00:47:19.500spread as well and if you start teaching this to hundreds of thousands millions
00:47:25.420of children because it's going to be throughout all of our school systems we are going to have
00:47:30.620an absolutely massive problem on our hands and i don't know how many thousands of children we need
00:47:35.980sterilized before some politician wakes up and says enough but they're all cowards with the
00:47:45.100exception of a handful of conservatives who have spoken out against this and they won't say anything
00:47:50.940And the people of Canada, you know, this is really quite predictable because usually people aren't ever going to protest until something affects them directly.
00:47:59.940So like we've seen with all the freedom rallies, you know, the anti-masker rallies, people have been affected directly by COVID, so they go out in the thousands and protest.
00:48:10.940We've seen Palestinians in the thousands going through the streets because it affects them.
00:48:13.940affects them the people who this affects are the children cannot speak out and the parents of these
00:48:21.140children who are transitioning who are now in such a delicate situation because they have to
00:48:26.340protect their children they can't speak out they can't make this a public thing
00:48:30.980they can't alienate their child or upset their child they just have to be there for their child
00:48:35.860so it's a really unique situation because the people who are actually directly impacted
00:48:39.620aren't usually able to speak and because we have this cancel culture now we're even
00:48:44.220suggesting that a child should do some talk therapy before permanently sterilizing themselves
00:48:50.700that seems transphobic and everyone's just afraid of getting canceled but
00:48:55.340there's a lot of people that can't speak up and they should speak up and they need to start
00:49:00.460speaking up yeah they should i don't check how deep the water is just jump you know that's a
00:49:06.820great policy that's that's perfect yes when i started out on this
00:49:11.500i mean i came prepared for a big battle deleted every tweet i'd ever written i deleted all my
00:49:18.660facebook posts i even got rid of all my facebook friends because i didn't need people who were kind
00:49:22.640of crazy taking pictures of my kids and putting them on social media or whatever i just came at
00:49:28.640this strategically and i came prepared for a long battle and um i didn't know what was going to
00:49:33.440happen. I didn't expect to get arrested a couple of times and get jumped by Antifa on the streets
00:49:38.600of Montreal, but that's okay. Every time something bad happens, it's actually a blessing in disguise
00:49:44.920because it helps boost the message and helps reach people. So if people want to keep trying
00:49:49.060to assault me or whatever, I guess I totally welcome that because I'll take a broken bone
00:49:53.820any day or week if it reaches another million people. But yeah, people just need to get over
00:50:00.060their fear because we're on the right side of history we're telling the truth and we're looking
00:50:05.460out for the well-being of children and if you can't jump into the deep end to save a child
00:50:09.720you got no business being a parent no i completely agree i completely agree can we talk a little bit
00:50:17.480about de-transitioning and just i mean i'm not you know you're not a medical doctor uh and you've
00:50:22.740been very clear from that from day one uh but you you know the nomenclature here you're you're very
00:50:27.540more aware than most people and probably a lot
00:50:29.820of the medical profession what exactly is going on
01:13:59.800We don't know because they won't define it properly in the bill.
01:14:04.040But what it will do is put a chill across this whole psychological profession where these counselors will be too afraid to treat these children with talk therapy, with watchful waiting, you know, just making sure they're okay, helping them out, letting some time pass.
01:14:21.160because this is a phase and it's almost always a phase if it's not a phase that's pretty rare but
01:14:28.840it's almost always a phase and what we're seeing now today even higher numbers of these kids are
01:14:32.920going to desist because these aren't children that have gender dysphoria from the age of three four
01:14:36.920five six these are primarily girls who get into high school and there's all these different
01:14:43.640influences all these cult-like influences and only then are they saying that they're the other
01:14:47.800gender but they're all going to grow out of this because it's not legitimate gender dysphoria
01:14:52.200overseeing so anyway this bill will make it a criminal offense if counselors just do talk
01:14:57.720therapy they're going to be at risk of an activist coming for their business and they'll be in court
01:15:02.520defending their practice seeing their reputation get dragged through the mud and they're just not
01:15:08.440going to do it they're not going to treat these kids so then what happens and sorry this is a
01:15:12.600long-winded answer but some of these things need to be addressed in detail what will then happen
01:15:17.080is these kids will end up at the gender clinics of these children's hospitals
01:15:20.680we're on the first or second appointment first appointment might be with a nurse
01:15:24.840or a social worker just to gather their information
01:15:28.120but these people are what we call affirming nurses only they do what's
01:15:34.360called gender affirming care so if you follow
01:15:37.880this issue at all and you follow the issue where different
01:15:40.600states in the united states are trying to ban
01:15:44.600these drugs treatments you'll see all these news articles about how these politicians are
01:15:50.280against gender affirming care and that sounds really lovely what a great term gender affirming
01:15:56.200care it just sounds loving doesn't it what it means is pharmaceuticals straight away
01:16:03.640cross-sex hormones and surgeries how is it gender affirming care to take a 12 year old
01:16:10.200and inject them with a chemical castration agent within 20 minutes of meeting them for the first
01:16:17.780time i call this a chemical castration agent because it is this drug has been used on the
01:16:25.700worst sex offenders it's been used on pedophiles to chemically castrate them and it's had success
01:16:32.760and this is what we give kids for years and years this is completely bonkers so
01:16:39.440anyway I don't even know what I was talking about but gender-affirming care another lie
01:16:46.380from trans activists they just try to market everything and dress it all up to sound loving
01:16:51.680and beautiful and it's the exact opposite it's gruesome it's barbaric and it's sterilizing
01:16:59.800an entire generation of gender confused teens who are getting confused because of what we're
01:17:05.700teaching in the school systems and what they're getting on social media so parents please monitor
01:17:10.520your child's social media and talk to their teachers get involved a little bit at school
01:17:15.920you don't got to get involved in the pack but what you do have to do is make some noise with
01:17:19.520the teacher at the start of the year and if i find out my kid is learning this gender ideology
01:17:23.540garbage i'm going to pull him out of class and i'm going to make some noise and this is really
01:17:28.760effective because parents don't teachers don't like getting complaints from parents and when
01:17:34.920they have all sorts of different things they teach or teach in a different way um if they know there's
01:17:41.400pressure on them and if you the parents start educating these teachers as well about the harm
01:17:46.680coming they're going to be far less likely to teach it and i know there's a lot of teachers
01:17:51.640out there who aren't teaching this and won't keep it they'll do the bare minimum if they have to
01:17:57.800but that doesn't stop your kids from getting indoctrinated either because schools will bring
01:18:02.040in an outside speaker to talk to the whole school and they show different videos and you can go to
01:18:09.160the soji education website which is bc.soji.org you'll find it on my website as well billboard
01:18:14.920chris.com under gender ideology schools and you can check out all the lessons plans for yourself
01:18:21.400but this comes with a caveat those are just options for teachers to use all the lesson plans
01:18:29.000that are provided to achieve the goals of the curriculum are all optional for these teachers
01:18:33.800because teachers have autonomy to teach as they see fit so they can just go on the internet and
01:18:39.560find some videos which they do and they'll show those videos to their class so i don't know if
01:18:45.320i talked to you before after i did this audio from toronto
01:18:49.400last month but a 12 year old boy in a toronto classroom
01:18:55.400in the at a school called bomore road b-o-w-m-o-r-e
01:19:01.160located in the beaches area of toronto which is a pretty wealthy liberal area
01:19:05.560this child recorded his teacher and the father
01:19:09.160the audio to me it's about a half hour long and this lesson
01:19:13.080is just incredible it's disgusting about six or seven times at least in videos and in what
01:19:21.000the teacher is saying they are grooming these children to reject their parents the teacher
01:19:26.600literally says you know sometimes our parents don't understand things as well as we do because
01:19:34.040they're not calm they're not having conversations about these things like we are in grade seven
01:19:38.840them and just planting these seeds seed after seed to get these kids to reject their parents
01:19:47.660so they get indoctrinated in school into believing this gender identity crap pardon me then they go
01:19:54.140home and they also have been indoctrinated to already reject their parents objections to this
01:20:01.460so ah it's just really insidious and kids minds are very malleable and it does not take long at
01:20:09.440all to mold them into believing this because they are steeped in a school system that preaches and
01:20:16.720this and teaches you know you have to be kind and be encouraging and all that sort of stuff
01:20:21.640so they all want to be kind and they all want to be encouraging and that's great but this is another
01:20:26.300thing that these activists have succeeded in doing all these teachings are tied together with
01:20:32.840anti-bullying and sexual orientation stuff and nobody wants to be against bullying obviously
01:20:38.720no one wants to be against sexual orientation stuff and so no one dares to speak up about the
01:20:43.640gender identity component of these lesson plans because then it just looks like oh you're against
01:20:47.960bullying we're just nice and to be kind be loving but all along this whole process these kids are
01:20:55.060getting indoctrinated it's like a psychological law and when you put kids who you know what it's
01:21:02.720hard enough for an adult to come out on this and speak against it because they're all worried what
01:21:07.080their friends and their family are going to think there's going to be such a bigot or they're going
01:21:10.140to get fired what kid is going to speak out against this ideology when the entire school
01:21:15.900the principal the vice principal all the teachers everyone everywhere is teaching that we have to be
01:21:20.340on board with it they're not and so when i talk to these kids privately some of them especially
01:21:25.380the boys they're not on board with this and they're glad i'm doing this but girls are a lot
01:21:29.520more empathetic than boys in general of course these are all generalities but it's true and
01:21:34.540girls all know girls who have transitioned or are transitioning socially or physically
01:21:40.580and so they want to have nothing but empathy for their friends and that's a big reason why i get
01:21:49.560so much hate from males especially on the street because they all know other females who've gone
01:21:55.220through this so it looks like i'm hating on their friends but i'm doing the exact opposite i'm trying
01:22:01.060to of course speak out against you know medical malpractice and be proactive for the next
01:22:08.900generation of kids so they don't get drawn into this and it's my hope that i never hear
01:22:15.120about any good things that have come about from my activism because that means that kids
01:22:22.640and parents learned the truth before any of this harm ever happened so then none of this harm will
01:22:28.840ever happen and i'll never hear a word and that's totally great by me that's all i want to achieve
01:22:34.380is just achieve broader awareness so that parents can protect their kids and it's not complicated
01:22:40.920guys all you have to do is have a conversation with someone to get this ball rolling and especially
01:22:47.400with parents they will be interested because they have kids in school they're going to want to know
01:22:51.960what's coming down the pipe because they need to protect their own kids and so yeah maybe be
01:22:58.280tactical about it but we definitely need to have more conversations perhaps just as we close out
01:23:05.420here chris uh maybe you can tell us again just how exactly we can support you in your work and uh
01:23:12.740maybe even if somebody who's watching the program right now or listening to the podcast later
01:23:17.200uh wants to invite you to their town their community or you know offer you a place to stay
01:23:22.740especially during pandemic or cut down on hotel bills and that sort of thing how would how would
01:23:26.900they you know get into contact with you to try and both stand in solidarity with you from afar
01:23:31.240perhaps when you come to their community they can stand in solidarity with you there
01:23:34.980so check out my website billboardchris.com there's a donate button on there they can donate
01:23:41.480to help support my travels because it is really expensive and i'm not
01:23:45.140really working much at all because i consider this my job now but whatever i'll be fine like
01:23:51.840but if people can donate that's great it helps me to do more i have a whole lot of ideas that i can't
01:23:56.700do because it takes funds but um that would be great um i do most of my campaigning on twitter
01:24:04.240they'll find my twitter account on my website as well but that's where i usually state where i'm
01:24:09.060going to be and so on saturday i'm flying in toronto i'll be posting my itinerary on twitter
01:24:15.660again i'll put it up on my website too but if people want to come and stand with me when i'm
01:24:19.900in their town that'd be great because the more numbers we have the more impact it has
01:24:23.360and if people just want to reach out to me and talk to me i'm always happy to talk to anybody
01:24:30.160if they have questions my contact info my email and my phone number are public on my website
01:24:34.560i'm not hiding at all and curious enough i'm not even getting any hate these days
01:24:39.760because i guess i've blocked it all but um i've learned that it's really not that scary
01:24:46.560to go public and do this stuff it might be in the beginning because there's the unknown
01:24:53.040and the unknown is always fear it's always scary we're fearful of the unknown but uh
01:25:00.000honestly guys it's really not that bad and if you're going to do one thing productive in your
01:25:03.440life you might as well speak for the health of kids i don't mean to say one thing productive
01:25:09.440but if you're going to step out of your comfort zone and do something it might as well be this
01:25:12.400issue because as any parent would understand there's nothing more important than the health
01:25:16.560and remember kids so yeah check out my website reach out to me donate all good whatever people
01:25:23.720want to do um yeah absolutely perhaps is one other thing for me to bring up and maybe that's
01:25:32.160a conversation for outside of this forum but i would also i don't know if you have any other
01:25:36.880allies in your in your battle or other people who have been you know uh a listening ear and
01:25:41.880broadcasting whatever else or people that you've consulted as experts who you know have not had
01:25:47.040the chance to make a public statement but i would be happy to have them on the show to give them a
01:25:51.220place to to make their point on what's happening here and how to protect our children okay i will
01:25:57.260keep that in mind uh there are like sometimes i partner up with some organizations like in
01:26:02.000in Montreal next Saturday or no next Friday that's the 11th yeah on the 11th
01:26:15.080from 4 to 6 p.m. on St. Catherine Street in Montreal which is where I was
01:26:21.040attacked by Antifa there's a feminist organization called PDF in Quebec a bunch
01:26:28.640The women are coming out, hopefully with their husbands as well, because we need some protection.
01:26:35.080And that'll be great because that's going to be a proper protest with some proper numbers out there and maybe some media will get involved.
01:26:42.100And we're trying to get some police presence there as well.
01:26:45.160But there are other organizations that I partner with from time to time.
01:26:48.900But I'm pretty much a lone wolf doing this.
01:26:50.920I don't work well with seeking group agreement or approved messaging.
01:26:56.100i'm just doing my own thing and having conversations with people one person at a time
01:27:00.580fair enough fair enough you're a one-man wolf pack that's great i'd like a wolf pack but you know
01:27:08.020it's just the way it is i don't i'm kind of a spontaneous guy and i just kind of do whatever
01:27:13.540i feel like on some days and so yeah i like to be flexible oh i totally understand that was it
01:27:20.980that was a bad culture no i again we're just very thankful for you to be here chris and
01:27:28.820and to explain all this to us because it is it's such a touchy topic but you talk about it with
01:27:33.300such frankness but also clarity and you're not and you're not crass you deliver it well
01:27:38.260and it's important for people to just hear it as it is to be heard this is killing our kids
01:27:43.940it's sterilizing them it's robbing us of future generations and i guess as a final point on my
01:27:49.620and speaking of conversations i mean yeah i was inspired by you i was inspired by you so i was in
01:27:54.460a conversation with uh actually some future future in-laws not not my direct in-laws but you know the
01:27:59.760the aunt and uncle sort of thing yeah i was in a conversation with them and uh and i tried to bring
01:28:05.940this up as gently as i could you know there's this guy uh that they happen to be directly related to
01:28:10.860a guy who i went to high school with graduated with and uh and i would never i would last guy
01:28:15.860in the world i would have thought that now he's not a child obviously anymore like he's an adult
01:28:19.320like he can make his own choices and whatever but but a lot of this seemed to be tied up in a sense
01:28:23.900of depression and everything else it didn't seem to be tied up in a sense of expression but rather
01:28:28.880a sense of retreat um and trying to safety and i i simply brought it as gently as i could that you
01:28:35.420know one you know all the way back to the beginning of of well you know to two millennia ago there's
01:28:40.600been arguments around the questions of gender and and for that matter what what's your true soul and
01:28:45.440your true body and that sort of thing all the way to today and i that that people who have done it
01:28:50.400often aren't necessarily happier later even if they're adults and they were fully consenting
01:28:54.620when it happened i and i just brought that up as as gently as i could and everything else and it's
01:28:59.380amazing that it is like a cult this was the point i had forgotten or i wanted to bring this earlier
01:29:04.160up in our conversation but you're right it is like a cult because they just they were so married to
01:29:08.080the idea they couldn't they couldn't even have a conversation about it they got extremely frustrated
01:29:13.700they didn't curse at me or anything but they just clearly we weren't allowed to have this
01:29:18.520conversation just because we weren't allowed to have it there was no and i i think that you're
01:29:23.440right we have to have these conversations because that's one person but another person might be a
01:29:27.420bit more receptive the next person might be looking for an answer and we can't allow this
01:29:31.920to be swept under the rug if we don't have these conversations there will be no conversations
01:29:35.580yes i'm really glad you brought a couple points there so the first point
01:29:41.220is virtually all these children when they go on these drugs etc they all have comorbidities
01:29:51.540they all have something else going on they have anxiety disorders depression a lot of
01:29:57.300these kids have autism a lot of them have had trauma some of them have had sexual trauma
01:30:02.420and the pornification of our culture is also not helpful because porn is so widespread now
01:30:11.100and all these young watching it girls see it too and it makes sexuality look very unappealing
01:30:19.120um and so there's various reasons a lot of these girls today are wanting to
01:30:25.140kind of get out of their own skin and become a boy it seems a lot easier
01:30:28.500but all these kids have comorbidities going on they all have depression going on they've got
01:30:34.180something else and we don't treat it these these uh endocrinologists these nurses these doctors
01:30:41.900at the children's hospitals at all these gender clinics they do nothing to find the source of this
01:30:48.840dysphoria there is no other condition in this world where a child self-diagnosis has all these
01:30:57.720other things going on and the doctors just go straight away with the child's diagnosis
01:31:01.880yes jimmy you are a girl because you say you're a girl and now i'm going to block puberty and we
01:31:09.940can cut off your testicles in a few months what what's the point of going to medical school if
01:31:14.760all you do is affirm the child this is nuts but the second point you made there about conversations
01:31:22.640how you might broach this subject with somebody and it immediately becomes heated
01:31:29.440don't keep pushing you have to be strategic about these conversations so
01:31:35.840the goal of that conversation with someone who really doesn't want to talk
01:31:39.320is really just to plant a seed in their mind so it might be really effective to
01:31:43.340say something like um i think gender non-conformity is a beautiful thing
01:31:50.900totally fine and why does that mean that we need to sterilize children why does
01:31:58.340that mean we need to put them on drugs why can't we just leave them be to be
01:32:02.840gender non-conforming what's the problem and all that does is just get their head
01:32:12.140thinking a little bit because this is a cult and there are there's already all
01:32:19.220indoctrination done in their brain there's already all these you know neurological pathways formed
01:32:25.060which are guiding them and um you have to undo that over time you can't do it all in one conversation
01:32:33.060when someone is kind of a blank slate and they're open to learning then you can have a full
01:32:36.660conversation about all these things but in a way we need to deprogram people first and that word
01:32:42.660is a charged word because it's associated with deep programming people from religions and stuff
01:32:46.820like that but they first need to figure out what they've been told is part of it is a lie
01:32:55.140and they just need to get thinking about it so what you did with your future in-law there
01:33:03.140is powerful because you at least started the conversation and you got things going in their
01:33:06.820mind and i guarantee you when these people go home at night and in bed they're going to think
01:33:12.660about these short conversations that they have and they might pull out their phone and google
01:33:17.060something start learning something because rome isn't built in a day and you don't undo all these
01:33:22.740lies that are in a person's head overnight so just do whatever you can use your brain try to get one
01:33:29.140or two points driven home and just look at that and with people that are more open to this you
01:33:33.460can have a full conversation and really get involved um no matter what even when people are
01:33:39.220getting angry and getting all emotional it's still a successful conversation because you got them
01:33:44.100and don't come at it from bigotry don't get involved emotionally don't react emotionally
01:33:48.820yourself just say look i think gender non-conformity is fine and this isn't about gender issues
01:33:53.540about health issues and why are hospitals and courts around the world like in the high court
01:34:01.460we just had the high court in england in december say that children can't give informed consent to
01:34:05.460to these puberty blockers and in sweden we just had i think it's the biggest hospital in sweden
01:34:09.940that does this children they just stopped the process all together on their own and they said
01:34:15.220they don't have any scientific studies there's no science at all to support the treatment pathway
01:34:24.100that these children are going on so they stopped it for all kids 16 years of age and under and for
01:34:30.500those who are 16 to 18 i think this hospital is called the keralinska hospital in sweden
01:34:36.260all the kids that are 16 and 18 can only go on these drugs if they're part of an approved
01:34:42.740clinical study which is really important i still don't agree with it at all at that age
01:34:48.420but it's way better than what we've got because these kids will be properly screened it's not
01:34:54.020going to be a child that just showed up with gender dysphoria last week who's now going into
01:34:58.020this trial is going to be someone who has had sustained dysphoria throughout their life or for
01:35:04.980years anyway they're not going to have comorbidities going on like other depression whatever that might
01:35:10.740be causing this they're going to need to qualify for this trial and then they'll be closely monitored
01:35:16.500whereas what we have now is just the wild west of medicine where without knowing anything about
01:35:21.380these children they're getting injected and having their future lives irreparably harmed
01:35:29.540so we are making progress in some areas and it's important to bring up things like that or even just
01:35:34.820send these studies or send these articles to antagonistic people because people don't like
01:35:41.220to be wrong most of them some do and those ones are the ones who thrive in life because they learn
01:35:46.420but the ones that don't want to be wrong they need to be able to safe face and so it does no
01:35:52.900good to argue with them vehemently but you might be able to plant a few seeds and send a few
01:35:57.540articles and get them thinking and get them to come to these understandings on their own
01:36:00.840it's like the socratic method of debate you ask questions people thinking you don't just tell
01:36:05.620them what to think you ask them questions so that they can come to these conclusions on their own
01:36:09.360no a very fair point a very fair point uh thank you so much again for joining us chris and uh we
01:36:17.640do hope to see you again soon we'll see uh you know maybe later maybe later this month or into
01:36:21.940july you can tell us about how some of your ventures have gone and uh again uh of course
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01:36:42.680convince people our children are worth protecting and that we can have a world where innocence
01:36:48.320isn't just violated by everyone and everything thank you so much for having me nathan i'll come
01:36:54.360on anytime i really appreciate you helping to boost this message i completely appreciate your
01:36:59.820time thank you so much all right take care absolutely well we had chris elson on there
01:37:07.240And we were just happy to be talking about what the transgender issue is in British Columbia and how it does directly connect to what's gone wrong in a lot of the BC curriculum, as well as the rest of Canada.
01:37:21.340There are various laws coming forward, et cetera, that are going rather sideways.
01:37:25.720He was talking about Bill C6, I believe, and that needs to be discussed in Parliament.
01:37:31.420and you do need to email your mp and let him know uh or her know that uh that they need to protest
01:37:38.320this while they can and vote against it if they can't we're actually going to have to do a quick
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01:38:34.760So what I think if we're going to close out this show,
01:41:19.120dismissed by the Minister of Advanced Education
01:41:21.020being called all sorts of nasty things. We're going to bring
01:41:23.160him onto the program tomorrow and let him give his side of the story um he went to the local
01:41:28.180guys first year ckpg imprint storage and now he's going to come to us uh he's not interested in
01:41:33.200talking with the big state media because of course they're just going to throw accusations at him
01:41:37.180we're really interested to see what aaron has to say about being part finally a part of the
01:41:41.620canceled a group of people but we have these tough topics for a reason the reason we have
01:41:47.640these tough topics is again it's not just a question of finding solidarity finding people
01:41:51.620who yeah we probably disagree on a lot of other issues but we can work together on this issue
01:41:55.660it's more fundamental than that is again we are the world it is our actions that make up the world
01:42:01.880and we aren't going to have a more human world if we don't act more humanely to one another right
01:42:08.520and a fundamental part of this being able to have a conversation with somebody treat them like
01:42:13.380another human being respect that you might have a difference of opinion but that both of you are
01:42:16.940not neither of you is interested in the other person starving to death neither of you is
01:42:20.580interested in you know the world falling apart and everything burning down you you want the world to
01:42:25.600be a better place tomorrow than it was today and you want your children to grow up in a better
01:42:29.480world than you had and and that's actually the kind of scary thing especially for people my age
01:42:34.640you know i'm i'm 31 i belong to that transitional generation that that saw the wealth of the
01:42:42.140previous two three generations and the benefits that they had the things that went really well
01:42:46.760for them just not materialize for my generation in any sustainable way not in that perfect
01:42:52.720compression of 20 30 or 40 years depending on where you're counting from after the war
01:42:57.340of of just being able to afford a house raise a family etc on on a single income uh that was
01:43:04.080pretty good uh you had a pretty good life uh in those years and my generation is living in the
01:43:09.800kind of echoes of that but but everything is not quite lining up for us in the same way
01:43:14.540And so I think that there's a place there where we have to look for a way to make a better world, to find a way to reach across the aisle.
01:43:26.100When we're talking about the children that we want to protect here, there are children with legitimate questions around their sexual orientation and their gender identity.