Western Standard - Mountain Standard Time - June 29th, 2021

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00:01:00.000 Hello and good morning.

00:01:28.320 Welcome to Mountain Standard Time. I'm your host, Nathan Gita, and today, of course, I'll be speaking with Reid Small.

00:01:34.860 He'll be telling us a little bit about BC News. He's our correspondent here in BC, and he's going to give us a little bit of an update on what's both happening with wildfires and church fires, for that matter.

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00:02:42.200 day to say the least we're going to start with the opening statement but the short version of

00:02:47.080 of it is at least in my in my world that uh we're we're in this bizarre time uh it's like 40 plus

00:02:56.040 degrees up here in bc's northern capital uh at least it was uh yesterday it certainly felt that

00:03:01.600 way on sunday i went floating down the river but i have a i have a suspicion we'll do the opening

00:03:06.500 statement but i have the suspicion i kind of articulated here in case you haven't looked

00:03:10.260 outside in a while it's hot at least here in british columbia up where i live in bc's northern

00:03:15.140 capital temperature crested to 40 degrees centigrade if you were standing in the right

00:03:19.260 places as a real life example i wore my clothes fresh out of the washer the other day and got on

00:03:25.700 my motorbike uh 10 minutes later i was dry so that was a bit of an interesting uh

00:03:31.540 it uh that might be an interesting kind of point and the thing that we have to think about is that

00:03:38.940 like that's how hot it was a wall of heat so even going fast like on the motorbike it didn't

00:03:43.860 didn't change anything it was literally like i was in a i was in a tumble dryer i just happened

00:03:48.420 to be going in a straight line instead of circles uh with such heat comes uh forest fires here in

00:03:53.700 british columbia and it in turn those fires will become the topic of the day i doubt very strongly

00:03:58.660 that there will be any real notice of pandemic policy just days from now indeed supposedly by

00:04:03.380 july 1st we'll be able to remove our masks regardless of where we are if there is no spike

00:04:08.340 shortly afterwards i guess we all know how effective those were people can argue that'll

00:04:12.420 be because of vaccine or that's a tainted sample? I don't think so. They told us that the vaccine

00:04:17.060 wasn't going to keep COVID from spreading, just that it was going to keep it from killing you

00:04:21.540 or infecting you, but you could still be a carrier. So if you can still test positive for COVID

00:04:26.240 afterwards, there's no reason that you couldn't, that you couldn't, after the mask mandate ends,

00:04:32.980 you couldn't test everybody to see how well it was spreading or not spreading. So that's

00:04:38.660 important to note so finally funnily enough along with the forest fires and the need for rain bc has

00:04:44.640 had a pandemic of churches burning in the wake of finding bodies near residential schools human

00:04:49.020 remains that is the most obvious question is if this was a synagogue or a mosque what would the

00:04:54.360 government do about it but perhaps more importantly is we must ask why society is so accepting of such

00:04:59.140 wanton vandalism and violence maybe that's just where we're at such a lack of care and attention

00:05:04.020 that we really will let vandals run the show,

00:05:07.340 paving the way for vigilantism.

00:05:09.440 I pray, as a status Indian, as a British Columbian,

00:05:13.440 as a devout Roman Catholic,

00:05:15.040 that grace pours like grain,

00:05:16.860 better angels of our nature prevailing.

00:05:18.680 If not, it is obvious that fire will be fought with fire,

00:05:23.080 likely costing many lives in the process.

00:05:26.620 I don't mean to exaggerate that point.

00:05:29.480 i really do believe that we have a problem um we call we call we have a lot of problems here in

00:05:38.120 british columbia when it comes to these things but uh with this heat wave has i think temperatures

00:05:43.360 have also flared when it comes to people's moods obviously there was some terrible news out of

00:05:47.260 kamloops some terrible news out of saskatchewan with that residential school and that terrible

00:05:53.460 news is going to create all sorts of anger i understand that but violence in a democracy

00:06:02.340 we have argued is never the answer that's not the point when we live in a democracy we're supposed

00:06:07.060 to solve things by word and deed and if we need to take someone to court we take them to court

00:06:12.980 we do not just burn down their house tempting as that might be

00:06:17.380 but it but i think that and and actually i think claudette has got a good point here

00:06:24.440 not accepting you just don't dare condemn criminal uh first nation actions yeah no i completely

00:06:30.280 agree a lot of a lot of people are kind of scared of what the woke crowd what the politically

00:06:36.120 correct crowd what the mainstream media will do to them if they just straight up say you know what

00:06:39.700 it's a crime to burn down a church that's a crime it's a crime to vandalize somebody's property

00:06:45.360 I don't care how mad you are. I don't care what you think of those people.

00:06:48.840 Whatever the people are or whatever the people group is you're upset about or whatever the institution is, go try burning down the local tax office.

00:06:56.320 See how that goes for you. The RCMP are going to be there and the RCMP are going to take you out very quickly.

00:07:01.940 You're not going to get away with that. You're not going to get away with fighting the fish cops.

00:07:04.920 You're not going to get away with going toe to toe with a conservation officer.

00:07:08.580 The state will win. That's how the state works. That's the nature of the state.

00:07:13.120 It has a monopoly on violence and it enforces its monopoly on violence very, very quickly in order to send a very direct message, which is we are in charge.

00:07:23.540 You aren't. But but I want to I want before we go too far down the question of the church is saying, I want to go back to COVID for a minute here as much as we're all tired of it.

00:07:32.200 Sorry, my hair didn't turn out this morning because I stuck it into a helmet.

00:07:37.140 Let's take a look here. We've got some interesting things going on.

00:07:40.000 uh there was an article in yeah no that's right the article of vancouver sun uh let's see share

00:07:48.160 screen here chrome tab uh share okay so this is this is mind-boggling to me and i've i've quoted

00:07:58.400 david kerrig on the show a couple of times he's a pretty good reporter i i rely i i appreciate his

00:08:03.600 he doesn't call me his reporter but i appreciate the way he puts things i think he does a good job

00:08:07.920 so no mass needed for indoor public spaces from july 1st as pandemic fizzles in bc so

00:08:15.440 their argument is a couple of different things you know uh the covet 19 is fizzling out in bc

00:08:21.360 as a provincial health officer uh is going to lift more restrictions by candidate transmission has

00:08:26.240 decreased and we particularly lower mainland where we have high rates of cause

00:08:30.560 of cases many months they're now dropping dramatically uh

00:08:34.160 highlighted the crucial disease reproductive rate has continued to fall

00:08:40.660 as 823 active cases good news for bc will move to into step three of the four part plans starting

00:08:46.700 july 1st things are looking really good in terms of going to step three henry said aiding adding

00:08:51.040 the to the official announcement so step three will see a return to normal indoor i think that's

00:08:56.180 two weeks ahead of schedule i think i think step three was supposed to be on july 16th i might go

00:09:00.860 to my producer on that let him shoot me a message or something inside the private chat but i think

00:09:05.980 i think that was uh supposed to be two weeks from now three weeks from now so that's happening uh

00:09:13.620 risk communities changing dramatically particularly for people who are immunized uh so we're moving

00:09:18.200 to a period where orders were required because we had lots of transmission now it's protection

00:09:22.000 through immunization uh it's really important to give an agency back to the people and you wear a

00:09:26.740 mask based on your own risk and based on being immunized particularly where you protect others

00:09:30.280 for being immunized as well so that for me is bonnie henry trying to get ahead uh trying to 0.85

00:09:38.360 get ahead on on what's already happening uh and so actually my producer just sent me a note here

00:09:48.280 the criteria for moving to step three yeah july 1st was the absolute earliest okay that's what

00:09:53.080 he's letting me know the criteria for moving to step three is at least 70 percent of the 18 plus

00:09:58.080 population vaccinated with dose one along with low case counts the earliest date to step three

00:10:03.880 was july one in step three all sectors must communicate okay i'm gonna punt this from the

00:10:10.380 stream i'm gonna come back online all by myself here so that is where i would start with this

00:10:16.540 question is is what's happening there and this has been happening since the long weekend in may

00:10:21.080 okay so what happened was and that's when i you know and i know this because i got engaged on the

00:10:25.700 long weekend in may and so then we went out of town to have uh to have a nice time with some

00:10:29.660 friends out out on a hike or something back when you could hike outside without boiling to death

00:10:34.500 and we saw just there's a there's some really nice lakes right around prince george they

00:10:39.940 prince george doesn't have a nice lake this isn't colonna prince george has two nice rivers so you

00:10:44.660 can float down and cool often as long as you're being safe wear a life jacket don't be an idiot

00:10:48.720 um and right next to prince george though are a couple of really nice lakes that actually get

00:10:53.980 quite warm and some of them are quite deep but some of them are pretty shallow so they actually

00:10:57.740 warm up pretty good and the point is that we saw people stacked on the highway we saw trailer after

00:11:04.560 trail we saw people doing non-essential travel essential travel whatever you want to call it

00:11:08.420 like they already didn't care anymore and so we're we're six weeks out from that now six eight six

00:11:14.000 six seven weeks out from that and i i guess i don't even pay attention to the numbers anymore

00:11:19.840 so i don't know if there's been a spike or a decline or whatever i don't really care i never

00:11:23.000 really believe the numbers to begin with to be honest with you uh does someone with the sniffles

00:11:27.180 have covid does every covid test that's positive is it a real positive i have no idea so i i'm not

00:11:32.980 an epidemiologist but i'm very skeptical of those who say that they are epidemiologists know what

00:11:37.140 they're talking about because you know what a lot of people tell me they know what they're talking

00:11:41.240 about with all sorts of things and the experts sometimes are right sometimes they're wrong you

00:11:45.020 have to take their advice with a grain of salt that's all i'm saying and you always have to weigh

00:11:48.420 the costs and benefits you could re-renovate your entire house and turn it into a modern living space

00:11:52.700 for $300,000. Is your house worth a $300,000 reno? The answer is probably not. So the problem,

00:12:00.680 the problem is that when it comes to what's happened with Bonnie Henry, Bonnie Henry lost

00:12:05.200 her control basically somewhere between Easter and Pentecost, okay, which this year was, was

00:12:11.160 Pentecost landed in on the long weekend. So somewhere in that 50 day period, she lost her

00:12:16.780 control, right? Because people just started to, they saw things opening up. We had an early spring

00:12:20.740 this year there was a little bit of rainy season there for a bit but it was an early spring

00:12:23.860 obviously it's heating up now it's summer people are going outside people don't care anymore like

00:12:28.760 people don't care what bonnie has to say so what's happening is they she is just trying to keep her

00:12:34.940 legitimacy alive by getting in front of the message that doesn't mean that maybe there aren't

00:12:40.720 positive reasons to be here uh maybe maybe there are positive signs and those positive signs are

00:12:48.180 leading her to have a positive, uh, uh, input into what's going on, like an insight. I doubt

00:12:55.020 it. I think that what's going on is that Bonnie is essentially making a choice. And the choice

00:13:01.800 that she's making is I can either be a part of the inertia and a part of the wave and the way

00:13:07.840 it's going, or I can continue to try and hold back that, which is already there. It's kind of

00:13:13.100 like being a teacher really in a sense in June, right? I know lots of teachers are, uh, are finally

00:13:18.020 out of the classroom now they're happy to be here sorry my hair is really bugging me i have to do

00:13:22.900 something about it i have some water here no i'm just kidding we're not going to do that on air

00:13:27.140 but the point is that uh the that when you're a teacher in june i was a substitute teacher for a

00:13:34.080 while and i had to substitute into late in the year actually i was a chaperone once on one of

00:13:37.780 those grade seven trips um like the kids stopped caring by the long weekend of may right like they're

00:13:43.380 they're ready for summer they're you know i can't even imagine what it's like trying to deal with

00:13:47.700 children at the very very end well i did deal with them a little bit i just mean that if you

00:13:51.220 were actually trying to teach them something by the end into june and stuff like we're just we're

00:13:55.080 just trying to make sure that they stay in their seats long enough to call it the end of the year

00:13:59.420 they really ought to change where we line up summer summer should probably line up with june

00:14:04.260 and july better than august but whatever i also think that we should probably change our school

00:14:09.280 days into like a four-day week and give people more time with their kids on long weekends and

00:14:14.120 that sort of thing and maybe give you know dad a chance to go hunting with his kids mom a chance

00:14:18.280 to show them the family recipe of something i don't know anyways that's a totally other tangent

00:14:22.420 the the issue though is that just as just as when you're just you're just there to keep the door

00:14:27.920 open to keep the lights on as a teacher from basically may long weekend to july 1st everybody

00:14:32.720 knows that everybody knows that the kids aren't paying attention anymore everybody knows that

00:14:36.380 except for the keenest kids waiting for their exams in grade 12 and 10 and whatever else they're

00:14:41.420 they're on point but everybody else is just they're just bouncing off the walls they don't

00:14:46.180 want to be here anymore so what's happened with bonnie is that she is the last school marm of 1.00

00:14:53.320 of canada and she is you know because i don't even think anybody ever believed a word that

00:14:57.840 teresa tam uttered i don't know if teresa tam even exists anymore i i think she was a concept in all

00:15:02.720 of our imaginations of what happens when you put like the worst the worst person you could possibly

00:15:08.500 imagine in charge of something, in charge of something, someone whose communication was poor,

00:15:13.960 someone who was not believable, not credible, who contradicted themselves. It was just nonsense. I

00:15:20.060 am sorry, Teresa, that you were put into that position by your government. Resign, take your

00:15:25.900 pension, go live in the Caribbean somewhere. It was a waste of time. I'm actually sorry on your 1.00

00:15:31.800 behalf. Also, you were wrong about pretty much everything. Please dismiss yourself. But coming 0.99

00:15:36.780 back to bonnie i i think the issue is that she's just trying to get ahead of the wave right she's 0.93

00:15:41.860 she's not flattening any curves now she's trying to surf the curve because the curve is a flood of 0.58

00:15:46.100 people who are just that's it i'm going outside like i don't care what she had to say i'm going

00:15:50.680 to my favorite bar i'm going to my favorite restaurant i'm out of here so uh and and bonnie's

00:15:56.880 just like oh yeah no i was totally about to open all the restaurants anyways i was totally about

00:16:00.760 to eliminate the mask mandate don't don't you worry i was just uh i was just about to do that

00:16:05.140 so it's just nonsense and when we get to the no mask mandate what's going to be interesting

00:16:12.260 there's going to be some interesting things that happen there when we eliminate the mask mandate

00:16:16.660 we're going to be uh we're going to be in some interesting positions because people are going

00:16:23.860 to not wear masks into businesses and then there's going to be confrontations between the masked and

00:16:29.880 the unmasked and the unmasked whether they were always unmasked which was pretty much my position

00:16:34.940 I was anywhere I could get away with not wearing a mask.

00:16:38.060 I didn't wear a mask.

00:16:39.300 Full disclosure.

00:16:40.740 And of course, as I've said many times on this show, I lived the last COVID-less summer, which did extend it to 2020.

00:16:49.820 It was up north.

00:16:50.900 In the north, we just were a little bit behind everybody else.

00:16:54.260 The fear didn't get to us right away.

00:16:55.840 And we had a COVID-free summer.

00:16:57.620 We just went to the pub.

00:16:58.920 We enjoyed ourselves.

00:16:59.780 Nobody wore masks anywhere except some inside government offices and one or two neurotics inside of the local store.

00:17:07.180 That's it. It wasn't mandated. It wasn't required.

00:17:09.700 And then into fall, it started to come down and the fear gripped us and you had people accosting each other in the street.

00:17:16.540 So here's the deal.

00:17:18.480 What's going to happen is as of July 1, if masks are entirely a free choice from now on, now we're going to get into the old libertarian argument.

00:17:25.260 can can a business enforce a certain set of rules on its own property and that's where things get

00:17:33.160 really funky right is it the people who can demand any service from any business or is it any

00:17:39.240 business can demand anything of its customers this is an old argument it's it's one of the

00:17:44.680 oldest arguments inside of inside of a free democratic society goes beyond goes from before

00:17:49.200 capitalism all the way back to you know 1215 the magna carta this is an old problem and and the

00:17:56.520 issue is if the mass mandate ends what happens can they refuse you service

00:18:03.960 and can they refuse you service with the mass mandate ending i don't i don't think they can

00:18:12.940 but they probably will and then what are you going to do because i mean it wasn't like you

00:18:17.860 actually absolutely had to wear one before there were all sorts of exceptions you could say that

00:18:22.080 it caused you anxiety you could you could try and produce a doctor's note whether that was a real

00:18:26.680 doctor's note or not you could talk about your asthma you talk about difficulty breathing it

00:18:30.520 didn't matter it didn't matter what you said though like people people were married to an idea

00:18:35.200 and that's where that's what i really think it is i'm not i'm not a conspiracy theorist i think

00:18:41.500 there was a virus that leaked from the lab how purposeful or not we'll leave that alone motive

00:18:49.820 or not we'll leave that alone but something went wrong and it spread to the world the chinese knew 0.97

00:18:56.380 about it they lied the communist party of china lied to the rest of the world the who covered for 0.76

00:19:01.660 them it shut down the planet it ruined trump's economy helped cost him the election which also

00:19:06.860 seemed very spurious if you asked me where those votes were coming from i i don't know who voted

00:19:12.620 for joe biden i didn't uh the point is that you know well obviously i couldn't i'm not an american

00:19:18.520 but i just mean like i don't know if anybody knows anybody that voted for joe biden but the point is

00:19:23.220 that you know we come to our present moment and it's very clear that covid was the great divider

00:19:32.920 it was the great winnowing fort and people would people would base their entire belief system their

00:19:39.240 entire life in whether or not the the mask was what you appreciate not were you going to virtue

00:19:46.040 signal with the mask were you going to agree to the vaccine were you going to allow us to reopen

00:19:50.680 couldn't you just be a good person can't you just get the jab can't you just do the right thing

00:19:54.680 can't you like it was it was a religion and it took over the world it took over the world and

00:20:05.560 i i'm still blown away by the fact that we let this happen that we let this happen i i'm gonna

00:20:11.800 just show some of the comments we've had here so we've got sheldon he's a pretty frequent commenter

00:20:16.520 why bonnie henry is trying to get ahead in the parade perish the thought i really appreciate

00:20:20.600 some of the some of the uh the phrases he uses he's got he's got a good a good vocabulary we've

00:20:27.160 got a couple here from patricia are they listening to the store rob it sorry make make the mask

00:20:35.240 uh make the mass produce a doctor's dog explain why they need to wear it

00:20:39.800 that's funny go go in reverse uh it is a religion christoph kotick get says so just

00:20:47.320 Just don't make me wear it on my face.

00:20:51.900 Yeah, no.

00:20:52.820 I mean, I made that point a couple of times.

00:20:54.420 I made that point to my grandmother who lived through Nazi Germany.

00:20:57.100 She really didn't like that joke.

00:20:58.920 But this is the problem.

00:21:00.060 Like, people...

00:21:01.300 I'm sorry.

00:21:01.800 My hair is really bothering.

00:21:02.760 Give me two seconds here.

00:21:05.180 This has got to stop.

00:21:08.880 All right.

00:21:11.920 That's what I get for not doing my hair properly this morning.

00:21:14.980 yeah everybody got to see me do that live this is a live show we don't have a commercial break

00:21:20.120 to go to but the point is that i'm still not doing what i want it to do god that's annoying

00:21:27.280 oh well what are you gonna do poor audio listeners are all gonna be like what the

00:21:31.900 hell's going on right now thanks sheldon yeah all right whatever i'm gonna just leave that alone i

00:21:39.340 gotta stop being so vain i'm sorry that i have this thick luscious hair that sometimes causes

00:21:44.260 me problems i'm sorry uh let's let's get back on track here the point that i'm trying to drive home

00:21:49.940 here is that yeah we get it sheldon it's hilarious the the point the point that we're trying to drive

00:21:58.980 home here is that i really believe that we're about to watch covid basically disappear in bc

00:22:06.740 i don't even care what the case numbers are i told you that i don't i don't i don't follow those but

00:22:11.220 But I just mean like literally what's going to happen in the next five days here is it's like COVID never happened.

00:22:16.940 The masks are not going to be mandated.

00:22:18.320 We're going to have some fights in the streets on this.

00:22:20.160 Let's be clear.

00:22:20.700 There's going to be people in the shopping aisles that are going to get in each other's face about being masked or unmasked.

00:22:25.760 The population is going to remain divided on this count for a little while.

00:22:28.580 We're probably going to see masks from the certainly the most neurotic part of the population, which also always happen to coincide with the professional managerial class.

00:22:40.160 that group of people are going to continue to try and push it on to the working class and the 0.53

00:22:45.020 underclass because they do that's what they do with everything but but what's going to happen

00:22:49.620 is it's all going to evaporate in a matter of minutes because in bc what is happening is we

00:22:55.740 are about to have a huge forest fire problem and that's going to be that's going to be a huge

00:23:02.740 problem because we're we're actually going to have an entirely other topic because if it stays

00:23:09.020 hot like this in bc for much longer we're like the whole province is going to light on fire

00:23:15.500 and so without without missing a beat the outrage machine and the panic machine the media machine

00:23:22.460 is going to go from covid to forest fires in a matter of seconds and and it is in a sense like

00:23:29.420 it never happened like there will still be the division the political division the personal

00:23:32.780 division, the philosophical division between people.

00:23:37.480 But the fundamental idea of what

00:23:40.920 we're talking about every day, that's going to change. And it's going to be

00:23:44.820 interesting because it's going to be weird for BC. I think it's going to be different for other places. Ontario, I believe,

00:23:48.800 is still under full lockdown as if it's still March of 2020.

00:23:53.760 I don't know. I'd have to look that up, but I've heard that.

00:23:58.620 You know, and Patricia

00:24:00.720 makes the point that we shouldn't

00:24:02.180 be wearing a flammable piece of

00:24:04.780 bleep on your face in

00:24:06.480 a fire. I don't know if we're allowed to say crap

00:24:08.620 on this show. I just did, but

00:24:10.020 it is what it is. I don't know what

00:24:12.680 the censorship rules are inside of, or

00:24:14.480 the FCC rules or the CRTC

00:24:16.840 rules are for this show. I'll have to ask my producer

00:24:18.760 to go look that up. I think we're just not

00:24:20.720 supposed to use anything worse than the

00:24:22.620 S word, which I'm pretty sure I've actually

00:24:24.760 never said on this show. I think I've said damn in hell

00:24:26.800 a couple times. But let's

00:24:28.940 let's walk through this a little bit. The BC wildfire situation. We got a map here. I'm going

00:24:37.200 to quickly stream that map. Let's take a look here. Share screen, Chrome tab, BC wildfire dashboard.

00:24:46.140 Interesting. Yeah, no, it's not looking so good. It's looking a little bit. It's looking a little

00:24:53.540 bad. Some serious forest fires down here in the Kamloops area. I know it's near Lytton and

00:25:00.980 whatever. Apparently, we're not in the caribou one. We're in the, what is this, Mackenzie North

00:25:06.680 sort of thing? I don't know. But yeah, of course, near Ashcroft, near Lytton. This is all going to

00:25:14.060 be super spicy for a long time um it's i hate forest fires they're awful but uh george road

00:25:26.360 2021 track date stage is called fire of note it doesn't sound like it's completely out of

00:25:33.860 control yet the one near ashcroft is estimated size hectares 180 hectares fire of notes sparks

00:25:42.580 like sparks like that's an unfortunate name for like but we're uh we're looking through this a

00:25:48.980 little bit uh patricia's appreciating that uh i'm figuring out how to use my uh my streaming and

00:25:56.540 stuff like that thanks patricia it's a long time coming my my producer still winces every time that

00:26:01.140 i uh i i try to do this for myself it's like watching a watching a dog trying to talk it's uh

00:26:08.340 it's it's rough but i mean the the short version i guess on my end as we just kind of wrap up here

00:26:13.560 and bring read online pretty quick is that when it comes to the wildfire thing i think this is

00:26:17.620 going to become the topic of the day pretty quick here it is like covid is like going to evaporate

00:26:22.080 or disappear into flames if you want to use a direct metaphor there uh it it's well i said like

00:26:27.780 so that's a simile but the point is that that's that is exactly what's going to happen we're going

00:26:32.220 to talk about wildfires and completely forget that covid ever existed pretty quick here because the

00:26:37.600 mask mandate's going to end but uh i mean i'm going to bring reed on here right away he's going

00:26:42.260 to talk to us a little bit about the news that's happening around bc it's reed small who is of

00:26:47.440 course with me at the western standard it's good to see you reed good to see you as well thanks for

00:26:51.880 having me absolutely well let's get right into it um what is kind of making news in your mind today

00:26:57.100 what are the updates uh that we need to look at i was just going over what was happening with

00:27:01.380 bonnie henry and what was going on with the fires but what's on what's on your uh desk today

00:27:06.440 well the heat wave seems to be what everyone's talking about so that's sort of the big news

00:27:14.360 um and then secondary to that i would say would be the church fires you know obviously there's

00:27:20.360 five churches that were set afire in bc one in alberta as of yesterday so that's sort of

00:27:26.840 what i'm focusing on right now no absolutely i think that i think that the like that the

00:27:33.880 temperatures right now are just they're they're astronomical i mean people are arguing all over

00:27:38.520 the place climate change not climate change all sorts of things but i think the other side of it

00:27:42.680 is just learning to survive the heat you you you told me uh through email that you had to move

00:27:47.960 locations because of the heat what what how hot was it getting in your place i mean it was getting

00:27:54.120 very hot by by my standards a lot of people would would call me a wimp and say oh come on it's not

00:28:00.360 that bad just just tough it out uh and they might they might be right they might actually be right

00:28:05.880 but but by my standards it was it was very hot you know after the sun went down you could literally

00:28:11.400 go to any square inch of my apartment on the on the floor or the wall put your hand on it and it

00:28:17.400 was warm um you know there was a bottle of wine sitting on my kitchen counter and it was actually

00:28:23.480 warm the wine was warmed up by the temperature of my apartment so it was definitely really hot but

00:28:29.320 But again, I don't do well in the heat.

00:28:34.180 No, neither do I. Neither do I.

00:28:36.060 I melt pretty quickly, though I'm acclimatizing to it pretty fast.

00:28:39.600 We went floating down the river the other day and that went that went well, actually.

00:28:44.360 It was nice and cool in the Nechaco here.

00:28:46.660 I don't know. Can people river float in the lower mainland?

00:28:49.040 I've never done it. Do people do it?

00:28:51.500 There's areas you can go.

00:28:53.580 Obviously, like there's English Bay, you know, in the ocean pretty close to my place.

00:28:58.220 but there's been e coli warnings lately but i guess the heat got so bad that people decided to

00:29:03.460 risk uh the e coli warnings and we're out there swimming uh right under the berard bridge there

00:29:10.020 i was looking at them i was like you know it's tempting but uh i don't i don't think it's gotten

00:29:15.180 that bad that i'm gonna risk that exactly just get covered i actually have some swimmers itch

00:29:21.900 i think from one of the local lakes uh not e coli obviously but we do get swimmers itch up

00:29:28.040 here in some spots i i mean the the the temperature outside is going to cause the forest fires but

00:29:33.060 it's kind of interesting we have these two bizarre juxtapositions we have we have the forest fires

00:29:38.820 which everyone will talk about because of the heat and then we have the church fires that officials

00:29:43.320 refuse to talk about because of the heat it's this it's this kind of perfect political analogy

00:29:49.940 it's both spiritually and literally true as john as jordan peterson would say and so what where do

00:29:56.700 we go with this what what's going to happen there when it comes to the church fires are we going to

00:30:00.060 see more of them is there going to be any any repercussions for this action well i guess i

00:30:05.540 should when i say everyone's talking about the church fires i should exclude politicians uh and

00:30:11.460 public figures from that group but uh are they going to continue i mean i sure hope not but i

00:30:19.840 imagine i guess the question is what is the reason for them being set on fire you know is is it

00:30:29.040 because whoever whoever did it whoever this these people are that are lighting churches on fire

00:30:34.320 is it because they're genuinely upset about canada's history or is there sort of a deeper

00:30:41.600 cultural issue. And they're sort of using this as a justification to carry out internal anger

00:30:52.520 and hatred. I mean, I don't know. I mean, the reason I asked that question is because we saw

00:31:00.340 the same thing, obviously, down in the States with the BLM riots after George Floyd was killed.

00:31:05.680 There was certainly a lot of people that were protesting and genuinely upset. But,

00:31:10.280 you know what about the people that were burning and looting buildings I mean in my opinion it's

00:31:16.480 sort of the same mindset that we saw then we're seeing it now in regards to the burning of

00:31:23.560 churches and in response to the unmarked graves and so I imagine we're going to see it again

00:31:28.880 whether it has to do with the residential schools or something else but I imagine the violence and

00:31:35.100 sort of the cultural divide and anger, the collective anger that's permeating throughout

00:31:44.060 culture right now, I don't see it going anywhere. I don't see it going anywhere either, but that's

00:31:49.720 the dangerous thing. If it only exacerbates things, we are going to get into a position where

00:31:55.220 let's say that some of the local Knights of Columbus, which is a real thing, right? I mean,

00:32:01.200 Yeah, I'm a Knight of Columbus. It's it's a fraternal organization that's supposed to just be about do good or read for the Catholic Church.

00:32:07.000 But it is occasionally I mean, they are called the Knights of Columbus for a reason.

00:32:11.080 They they they are they are at times they act as kind of like, you know, lay security for the church in some respects.

00:32:18.400 They act as ushers for the church. They're the duty, you know, the duty cops of the church in some respects.

00:32:23.480 And I can imagine a situation where particularly some of the younger Knights of Columbus or maybe an older curmudgeonly one decides to set themselves up as the watchman for a local parish, see someone who's about to attempt this and seizes them and puts them under citizen's arrest.

00:32:41.240 that there's an altercation and violence, violence breaks out. I, this is where I think

00:32:46.220 things can easily lead. If our police don't do their jobs of trying to figure out where's this

00:32:51.860 going and what's happened here and who's responsible. If, if people, if politicians

00:32:57.180 continue to drag their feet as well and not speak out about this, it's going to look like a silent

00:33:02.400 approval of these actions? Yeah, it certainly looks that way. Again, how do we prevent that

00:33:12.720 from happening? I mean, yeah, I guess you could have volunteers that sort of post up on church

00:33:18.040 properties. But I mean, are you going to be able to do that for every church? I mean, a lot of

00:33:23.500 these, well, there was six in total. I mean, they're in rural areas. So I mean, are you going

00:33:29.740 to cover every rural uh rural church it just i mean to me and even so i mean does that one person

00:33:40.020 really want to put themselves in danger i mean yeah no that's a valid point that's a valid point

00:33:47.220 yeah i mean again i'm i'm all for doing what whatever can be done to prevent this from happening

00:33:52.780 um but i i guess the big thing would be to

00:33:59.500 catch one person and throw the book at them and sort of take away the

00:34:05.880 instill some fear you know um it's it's one of those things i don't really see how you can

00:34:12.720 prevent it from happening again um i think i think if if nothing else like some of this was

00:34:18.500 happening before the temperature spike but as it continues to happen especially with the

00:34:22.560 have to respect maybe that's the way you kind of just roll all those topics into one is you say

00:34:26.340 well i mean you're you're you're deliberately vandalizing and destroying property with the

00:34:32.760 use of fire when we're not even allowed to use campfires as of tomorrow at midday i believe

00:34:38.620 uh you're you're going to jail it's not this isn't going to end well for you but people are pretty

00:34:45.580 sure that that uh that won't that won't be the way that things go uh let's come back to the

00:34:50.580 question of the pandemic and how things are just going to kind of change topic uh it very quickly

00:34:55.240 it it really seems like bonnie has lost control of this narrative she lost control basically on

00:35:00.400 the long weekend in may uh victoria day was the great the great moment everybody decided that's

00:35:06.940 it i'm done this pandemic was fun thanks for the laughs i've been here for 15 months i'm out yeet

00:35:12.420 and they just uh yeeted their way all the way to their cottage and their cabin and their rv spot

00:35:18.220 and wherever else they could get to and i don't i think i heard that less than 100 people were

00:35:24.200 turned away by police and that's just because they didn't answer the question properly with

00:35:27.720 the way they're supposed to answer it which is like yes it's essential travel no i can't tell

00:35:31.560 you what it's about that's a private matter and finally finally i mean like bonnie has been

00:35:36.120 basically since then kind of just trying to stay ahead of the wave she can't flatten this curve

00:35:40.980 she's surfing the wave it is it is obviously people are leaving they're they're going to get

00:35:45.840 out. They're going to go do what they want to do. And now the mask mandate is coming down on July

00:35:49.540 1. What do you predict is going to happen from there? I think COVID is just sort of going to

00:35:56.780 move off to the periphery. People are already, I mean, as vaccine rates go up, I mean, that's

00:36:05.620 obviously going to be a point of contention between the percentage of people that get

00:36:09.800 vaccinated versus don't. But I still think as time goes on, even that conversation is going to

00:36:14.700 disappear there's going to be you know 80 of the population or more will get vaccinated a

00:36:20.020 percentage won't that's just going to be how it is um and uh eventually the conversation is just

00:36:27.620 it's going to shift to something else i mean i hopped on here you know five minutes early and

00:36:32.180 i heard you talking about uh the conversation shifting more to climate change and whatnot and

00:36:37.600 uh i think that's what we're going to see i mean there was a cnn article like four or five months

00:36:43.100 ago that came out saying, what can the COVID lockdowns teach us about, you know, preventing

00:36:49.040 climate change? So I think that's sort of where the public discussion is going to go. That's what

00:36:55.260 politicians are going to start focusing on. That's what the media is going to start focusing on is

00:36:59.860 climate change. And the public discourse is, you know, among citizens is going to follow suit. So

00:37:07.020 that's sort of where I predict things going. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, I know that I

00:37:12.300 know that your focus is on british columbia but i mean this is the difference between opinion and

00:37:17.020 news right like i i have my biases and so i kind of stay at my watering holes and of course your

00:37:22.840 job is much more around actually absorbing all the information really in a sense you guys should

00:37:27.260 be more in charge than we are but but the the difference the difference is that i think that

00:37:31.820 ultimately i guess people are looking for an interpretation but i can't interpret what's

00:37:35.900 happening in ontario partly because i don't quite understand what's happening in ontario can you

00:37:39.560 can you explain a little bit what is going on over there are they still in complete lockdown over

00:37:44.380 there you know ontario yeah um well they seem to be enforcing it a little bit less um you know i

00:37:53.680 got family that lives out that way and uh but as far as lockdown goes it's still it's still not

00:38:00.640 looking good um you know as far as the protests go there there's really big turnouts out there

00:38:05.540 that uh isn't really getting much coverage if any uh in the media but uh yeah it's not looking

00:38:14.080 good out there um i think i mean i i the less i hear about ontario the better honestly i try and

00:38:21.900 sort of i got my family there i'm i'm concerned about them but aside from that it's you know

00:38:29.740 there's, there's enough problems out this way that, uh, I sort of just try and have a very

00:38:37.120 trivial, trivial understanding of what's going on in Ontario and Quebec. I, and I take one look at

00:38:42.020 it and I go, all right, that's, I, I, there you go. There you go. We call it, we call it unterrible

00:38:47.580 in the circles I travel in. Um, I, I wouldn't wish, I wouldn't wish on terrible on my worst enemy.

00:38:53.680 It's, uh, no, I, I just don't understand either. Like, I mean, obviously Ontario is our most

00:38:58.400 populous province and what's mind-boggling to me is that it it they they just seem to have

00:39:06.120 completely mishandled this thing i don't know how anybody could vote for doug ford ever again

00:39:09.720 uh and i say that as a conservative i don't and i mean this is kind of the same thing whether it's

00:39:14.740 kenny ford or pallister no offense to mo i've had to apologize many times on this show because i

00:39:19.540 just completely ignore saskatchewan in a lot of ways when it comes to their policy on covet i

00:39:23.380 love saskatchewan for the reasons i got lots of family there i love saskatchewan but when it comes

00:39:27.720 their COVID policy I don't think anybody knows what Saskatchewan is doing including Saskatchewanians 1.00

00:39:31.360 because it's like it just exists and I don't know what's happening over there and nobody takes Mo

00:39:35.240 seriously I think but Pallister, Kenny and Ford everybody's like yeah no I'm never voting for

00:39:40.360 that guy again like it's this is not good and and Horgan he he's a he's a very good politician

00:39:49.760 because he's he can kind of find that perfect middle ground um where he can he finds a way to

00:39:56.180 appease people on all sides as much as he does uh piss them off you know like he'll he'll go you

00:40:05.380 know for lack of a better term what some people might call like woke he'll kind of appease the

00:40:10.200 the woke sides of the population but then he'll also come out and say well no we don't cancel

00:40:16.260 Canada Day and so people are like okay yeah he kind of is a little bit annoying but he also

00:40:21.980 isn't that bad because he's not wanting to cancel Canada today and so he kind of he's he's very good

00:40:28.860 at finding that uh that middle ground um I mean I'm not saying that it's genuine uh you know I

00:40:35.720 I have to be careful I guess about my opinions um but uh yeah I think Horgan Horgan does a really

00:40:43.960 good job at getting people

00:40:46.040 to

00:40:47.140 like

00:40:50.080 him, I guess.

00:40:51.840 That's as far as I can see.

00:40:54.020 People among my social

00:40:55.840 circle, they don't have a lot of

00:40:57.940 bad things to say about him.

00:41:01.180 No, they don't.

00:41:02.420 They don't have a lot of bad things to say

00:41:04.040 about him, but you know what's funny?

00:41:05.120 I have regular contributors

00:41:07.200 on this show every week,

00:41:09.060 Aaron Ekman and Stuart Parker,

00:41:11.940 and they both represent different

00:41:13.100 sides of the left when it comes to british columbia uh one of them represents the pro

00:41:17.260 development side of the left and kind of union solid air sort of side and the other one represents

00:41:22.060 the more green side of the left and the more ecological uh progressive side of the left and

00:41:27.500 and it's funny because they both they both have criticisms of horgan uh right down to the fact

00:41:32.980 that apparently uh the bodies that were discovered in cam loops for justification for continuing the

00:41:38.100 old growth logging uh he somehow weaved that together into a single word uh salad but but uh

00:41:46.160 the thing the thing that is interesting with horgan is that he you're right i think he is

00:41:50.640 kind of the teflon man he can do pretty much anything he needs to do and uh he can get away

00:41:57.460 with it yeah and when and when he uh starts irritating the uh i guess what i would say

00:42:06.260 more people on the right the more uh you know free speech uh people when he starts to kind of

00:42:12.080 piss them off a little bit he'll come out and say and he'll he'll condemn whole foods for banning

00:42:17.180 poppies you know kind of like for a few days win them over again um so yeah he really is good at

00:42:24.940 picking uh picking his narrative uh sort of licks his finger figure out figures out which way the

00:42:30.800 winds blowing and uh just goes that way for for a few days and then starts going the other way

00:42:37.600 he's very good attacking he's very good attacking yeah uh i think i think that that's kind of why

00:42:45.120 he's been able actually there's been a good point raised by another good buddy of the show

00:42:49.080 sheldon claire horgan was smart about focusing covet on bonnie henry and that's away from his 0.99

00:42:53.920 government i think that actually is bang on uh he did keep the focus on bonnie and it's kind of

00:42:59.620 interesting because she's survived a lot longer than i thought she would um and and right now

00:43:05.220 she's just trying to figure out how to descend she's just she's she's on the wave she's 100

00:43:09.620 feet in the air and she's got to figure out how to carve down this wave and get back to the ocean 1.00

00:43:14.580 floor uh or at least to tide level and and i think she's navigating that so far not okay but she's

00:43:21.200 gonna get there but horgan is finally gonna have to start focusing on his own government again

00:43:25.740 and having to take the heat for it, especially in this heat wave.

00:43:30.500 What do you think are going to be some of his priorities going into the fall?

00:43:36.680 What are his priorities going to be going into the fall?

00:43:42.500 Well, I would say he's going to really try and take credit for all the –

00:43:53.740 anything related to COVID. I mean, obviously, it was really shady the way he was telling people

00:44:01.160 one minute to stay home and not visit their families. And then the next he's calling a snap

00:44:05.480 election. But going into the fall, I think he's going to focus on really how much good BC has

00:44:16.720 done as far as um getting people vaccinated and um you know taking care of uh small businesses

00:44:25.520 during the lockdowns even though most small business owners would would beg to differ with

00:44:29.800 that um i think that's going to be the his primary focus is how how he led bc out of the fog as our

00:44:38.860 leader from the dark times of covid and now we can move forwards um and all of his shortcomings

00:44:44.500 that happened uh were because of a horrible circumstance that he had no control over

00:44:53.260 but he was able to lead us out of the fog and and it's interesting because because he'll have

00:44:59.920 he'll have survived in a way that that you know i mean trump didn't survive the exact same

00:45:05.560 circumstances that he was in and he had his election you know two weeks before trump did

00:45:10.180 um yeah it and and horgan is just i mean again like horgan is looking pretty pretty good in his

00:45:18.540 own position i'm not i'm not saying that i necessarily agree with horgan at all but he's

00:45:23.200 looking pretty solid again out of the premiers you know from ontario west let alone quebec quebec

00:45:29.640 was at one point hauling people out of their own homes for having christmas parties uh we all saw

00:45:36.200 the footage from that that made it all the way to tucker carlson yeah but uh i think that i think

00:45:42.160 that the thing we have to be honest about is that here we are coming to what looks like the end of

00:45:48.340 covid uh getting into the whole question of of course climate change coming up because of the

00:45:53.780 heat the fires obviously uh cultural divisions inside of inside of canada what's going to happen

00:46:00.640 in this federal election is this gonna is this going to go back to the liberals or is some

00:46:04.980 insurgent party finally going to make their voices heard it's it's gonna go back to the liberals i

00:46:10.920 really think it will um i mean i don't see how it goes any other way i completely agree i i i don't

00:46:21.520 understand i don't understand what the tories are doing i it seems like they've forgotten who their

00:46:26.940 base is they've forgotten how they won in 2011 they don't care about the people who usually

00:46:32.540 uh actually vote for them and they're just alienating them and on top of all that the

00:46:37.820 liberals like i mean they've just been giving away free money to everybody what how could they lose

00:46:42.920 and that's that's the thing about trudeau is i think there is a a large portion of the population

00:46:48.780 that absolutely loathes him but it's still a minority um so there's a lot of people that

00:46:55.980 really have disdain for Trudeau but you know he still has that majority you know like you said

00:47:04.200 handing out money a lot of people in my age group that were you know basically spending the last

00:47:11.260 year just getting served money and and hanging around making no real effort to you know kind of

00:47:18.780 get back to work because they got these checks coming in they they're very happy with the way

00:47:24.840 things have been going no it's and and i think that's exactly where that vote's going to come

00:47:31.720 from uh it's uh it's it's you know i i think the issue i think the issue here though is

00:47:41.320 if if the election comes down to just basically who you paid to vote for you we've got we've got

00:47:48.000 some serious problems ahead of us because i mean we've always made that joke for those of us who

00:47:52.680 are right of center we've always made the joke that the way that left of center parties get into

00:47:56.180 power is that they pay people to vote for them including the civil service and now and and then

00:48:01.460 of course it's always harder for conservatives to win because they have to tell people well we're

00:48:04.760 not paying you to vote for us we're going to open up the economy and help you get a job so then you

00:48:09.120 should vote for us and then people look at the free money versus looking at getting a job and

00:48:12.760 then they're like i don't know if i want to do that i i don't think that's i think that's an

00:48:16.780 overly simplistic way of looking at it and i i've argued on this show many times that austerity as

00:48:23.520 an idea instead of conservatism needs to go it doesn't work you could just spend the money well

00:48:28.840 that's already being collected in taxes creating an austerity program which somehow always ends up

00:48:34.800 the same way frontline services being cut the managerial class growing and debt still being

00:48:40.960 piled on in the government so austerity doesn't mean a leaner meaner government it just means

00:48:45.560 less service at the kiosk which is the place where working class folks actually need help 1.00

00:48:50.640 but the point that i'm going to try at home here is that what do you what do you think read is the

00:48:55.280 alternative story that has to be told by say the conservative party or the mavericks or by the ppc

00:49:00.340 what would the alternative thing be because right now it seems like liberals like well you trusted

00:49:04.760 us you trusted us with a minority and even with a minority we managed to hand out some money

00:49:08.900 and the money we handed out to you uh we have you know like we've shown you that you should vote for

00:49:13.820 us again and look at us aren't we in control of everything even in a minority we're acting like

00:49:17.800 we have a super majority thanks to the the ndp and to the bloc what what what what is the counter

00:49:24.700 argument from the tories or from any other party trying to get those votes back to them well i

00:49:30.400 think the conservatives really lost a lot of respect from a lot of their voters um based on

00:49:37.500 how how they handled uh lockdown the issue of lockdowns um you know o'toole was very

00:49:46.780 you know he he was very much in favor of you know closing things temporarily he's like yeah

00:49:54.780 no like obviously this isn't ideal but there's this virus so it's what we have to do it's for

00:49:59.740 the greater the greater good and meanwhile uh a large percentage of conservatives that

00:50:06.140 that violates what they view as their freedom they're like okay wait a second you know we've

00:50:11.900 got the government coming in and you know not only trying to control every aspect of our lives

00:50:16.540 as far as our money goes but how we can earn money ourselves how we can how we can gather

00:50:22.700 how we can you know worship things like that um and uh and so i think the conservative party would

00:50:31.100 have to really go back to focusing on that that like real freedom um aspect um that's that's how

00:50:41.580 i see it based off of what i hear from from people in my circle that's that's what a lot of sort of

00:50:47.500 classic conservatives are really not happy about uh about those issues in particular that seems to

00:50:54.060 be the primary focus i completely agree but this is where and this is where things get really kind

00:50:59.500 of dicey for me is that it's like well is there any going back like that's that's kind of the

00:51:06.060 question in my mind is there any going back with anything where's where is where are our options

00:51:11.260 what are our options you know um what are we going to go back with what are we going to go back to

00:51:15.900 this is this is the thing we've been talking about going back since the income tax act of 100 years

00:51:21.500 ago that was supposedly just temporary to pay for the war uh it we we have had things ratchet in a

00:51:30.860 certain direction for over a hundred years uh 113 years of 80 something of which the the liberals

00:51:37.260 have reigned uh canadians are they're they're basically ruled by a one-party state in this

00:51:43.340 country how can we build an alternative narrative how do we build that when when it really does

00:51:49.020 seem like we are just stuck in one mode of thinking well the short answer is i don't know

00:51:55.340 that's the short answer um again i i think it really comes down to uh

00:52:02.860 a problem of information how people are getting their information um that's

00:52:10.700 i mean that's in as simple terms possible that's that's how i would answer that i mean

00:52:15.660 it's a very complex question um and the way forward is is something i've i've thought a lot

00:52:24.940 about but i mean there's a very small percentage of people that are in the middle that are willing

00:52:33.860 to i missed that i'll put it back up oh

00:52:41.460 um barrelers pork barrelers yeah no that's a good one but uh yeah there's a there's a very

00:52:47.740 small percentage of people that are willing to actually look at things beyond a surface

00:52:53.320 sort of mainstream narrative which is um you know identity politics um you know what is the

00:53:02.080 prime minister saying about things like gender what's he saying about things like race that's

00:53:06.480 really all people are focusing on these days and it sort of splits into this dichotomy where

00:53:10.580 everyone's like oh this person's talking about gender and race like you know that's uh you know

00:53:17.160 a woke politician i don't want anything to do with that and then they're called you know nazis

00:53:24.440 and racists and and bigots by everyone on the other side and that leaves uh that leaves you

00:53:33.220 know a percentage of people in the middle that are kind of left to to navigate a really tense

00:53:40.220 socio-political environment and uh i think that's the conservatives or whoever else

00:53:47.040 really need to focus more on on those issues and calling them out and dissecting them in a way

00:53:55.020 that that makes sense for people if if you get what i'm saying yeah i i think that i think that

00:54:05.040 one of the things that is an issue here is just as you said the question of where people get

00:54:11.420 their information from and in canada we're kind of stuck with a single narrative that's one of

00:54:17.300 the things that i really like about the western standard very thankful to be here because there's

00:54:23.460 an alternative narrative you know being yeah and it's great to have you here reed i'm glad that

00:54:27.360 you're here because it because it it is this thing like there isn't a lot of alternative voices in

00:54:33.220 canada or if they are alternative they don't come off as very professional and so the the issue is

00:54:39.060 that canada basically has a single narrative governing all of its its institutions and its

00:54:44.560 mainstream media whatever we don't even have we don't even have a fox news in canada you know we

00:54:49.020 had sun news for a little while but that got that got destroyed by the trtc and so here we are with

00:54:55.540 this tiny little ship of of alternative media that we have here and we're growing all the time and

00:55:00.580 That's awesome. We have people taking out subscriptions, people taking out ads, donations from, I mean, ad revenue from corporate donors and that sort of thing.

00:55:08.860 But the issue is that that narrative is still so small.

00:55:15.440 When you're looking for the facts, when you're looking for an honest reporting of something, where do you go online?

00:55:21.260 Where do you go? Who do you talk to? What kind of ways do you gather your information as a reporter?

00:55:26.060 well i basically i have a tab on my browser of like 30 websites and i just sort of do a quick

00:55:36.440 scan and get a get a sense of what the narrative is coming from different sides and then i'll take

00:55:44.660 to places like reddit and forums and you know places like youtube comments they can be really

00:55:50.140 uh you know as as negative of a place as they can be they can be a really good place to find

00:55:56.060 uh you know in-depth perspectives i just sort of try and

00:55:59.900 reach into as many areas of the internet landscape as possible and uh gather a perspective um and

00:56:10.640 usually usually it's uh it can come down to sort of two things uh which is the issues that i was

00:56:19.400 talking about before which is you know something like race um gender uh identity politics that's

00:56:28.240 really the way uh the narrative always finds a way to get spun back to that and uh and that's

00:56:35.480 one thing i've noticed with like people in my social circle um you know they aren't concerned

00:56:41.340 about things like they aren't concerned about like the little the little things that are going on

00:56:48.500 uh in the federal government they're more like oh well what's jagmeet singh saying about um

00:56:54.400 about you know gender or race or this what oh that's what he's saying oh great well

00:56:58.980 i'm gonna make an instagram story now and let everyone know that this is who i'm gonna be

00:57:03.280 voting for and uh and that's that's just sort of where we're at now but to answer your question

00:57:10.120 where do i go for my information um i mean prior to working at the western standard that was one

00:57:15.760 of my that was one of my go-to spots but uh now i am the news but yeah no as many as many places

00:57:27.260 as possible and sometimes if i'm uncertain about something i'll i'll throw a question out i'll

00:57:32.180 start a subreddit or i'll post on a forum and just let uh let people dissect it and and go from

00:57:39.320 there um you know there's no one place that i look for information um just as far and wide as

00:57:46.480 possible that's interesting that's interesting i never i would never have thought of being uh

00:57:51.940 of like being a part of the investigation into a story uh via the internet that's a very

00:57:58.380 interesting take i i'm still you know i i may i may only be uh 31 but there's some times where i

00:58:04.240 come come across as a real boomer uh and that's one of them i would never it just would never

00:58:08.600 occur to me that the internet is a place

00:58:10.700 to like I'm going to ask this question

00:58:12.500 and see who answers it. It just never

00:58:14.360 occurred to me to do that outside of like I don't know

00:58:16.340 like an ad for something or whatever

00:58:18.340 it's like I have this thing I need to sell

00:58:20.280 or I have something I want to buy

00:58:22.080 so I ask online. Even then I kind of

00:58:24.560 missed the buy and sell. I missed the printed

00:58:26.280 copy. That was awesome. I'd get my coffee

00:58:28.320 I'd have the printed copy of the buy and sell.

00:58:30.400 It was a great way to find

00:58:32.320 just all sorts of old stuff. It was great.

00:58:35.220 Yeah.

00:58:35.380 yeah i i think that you're i think that your point there is valid it it's in a sense reporters

00:58:44.180 can either kind of just go with the narrative or they could actually do some digging and look into

00:58:49.800 what people are really thinking and feeling about some of these issues and i think that's a far more

00:58:53.460 honest way of going about the reporting yeah yeah and and really try and steal man each side you

00:59:01.640 You know, even if you think it's not true, just try and understand the logic of it and make it as strong as possible and and see if there's anything that will dismantle it and factor that in.

00:59:14.700 You know, trying to understand truth is is it's not an easy thing.

00:59:21.360 It's not an easy thing, but we do our best.

00:59:25.660 No, absolutely. Absolutely. I understand.

00:59:27.800 As we kind of close out our time with you here, Reid, maybe something you could point out for everybody here is just some ideas of what you think is coming down the pipe.

00:59:38.800 You know, summer has started.

00:59:40.560 The election's coming.

00:59:42.540 I mean, you know, honestly, we're six months away from Christmas.

00:59:45.280 Like, I mean, that's not that far away, actually.

00:59:47.960 We're in a different world than we were in the June of 2019.

00:59:52.480 I went to a COVID-free wedding in June of 2019.

00:59:56.580 Nobody in June of 2019 could have predicted where we'd be in June of 2020, let alone June of 2021.

01:00:03.720 Where are we going over the next couple of weeks here into that election?

01:00:08.540 And what's going to be the major issue?

01:00:11.540 What are things going to look like by, let's say, Thanksgiving or Halloween?

01:00:16.420 Climate change.

01:00:17.380 That's going to be the big discussion.

01:00:19.160 I'm calling it right now.

01:00:21.000 That's going to be the main focus.

01:00:22.580 um the media is going to be talking about it left right and center paul it's going to be the main

01:00:27.060 focus of politicians um it's uh that's going to be that's going to be the central issue going

01:00:34.600 forward and covid is going to sort of dissipate into the background no i i completely agree with

01:00:41.420 you i completely agree with you it was a great news story for a certain amount of time it helped

01:00:45.360 bump trump out of office like yeah that's that's essentially what it was being used for

01:00:50.740 the body count doesn't match other body counts we've had it doesn't there's no there is no

01:00:57.140 correlation between the amount of panic that it caused and the actual damage that it did other

01:01:03.020 than the self-inflicted economic damage that we're still suffering from we're going to go through

01:01:07.020 the next number of years and and you're right now it's time to change the channel before people

01:01:11.940 realize that hey we uh we did a lot of panicking over something that not saying it wasn't deadly

01:01:17.180 in its own way but a lot of panicking over over something that we now we now the cure is worse

01:01:22.680 than the disease absolutely and i think the same mindset is going to manifest itself in the

01:01:29.200 conversation of climate change where um your your opinion has to unequivocally fit the narrative

01:01:35.580 otherwise you're uh you know you're a climate denier or or vice versa and we're going to see

01:01:41.360 the same the same issues are going to manifest themselves going forward i believe they will

01:01:46.600 i completely agree i completely agree well thank you so much uh that we uh we're speaking with

01:01:53.500 reed small about all well all the things that uh happen in british columbia and the next the next

01:01:58.040 big things that are coming down the pipe um i'm not sure if you're open to it reed throughout the

01:02:02.180 summer but i'd be happy to have you on it first thing on on tuesdays to try and keep us abreast

01:02:06.940 of what's happening through the week yeah that sounds great to me i uh enjoyed talking with you

01:02:11.260 so let's make it happen absolutely well thank you so much for you and we'll see you again soon

01:02:15.680 thanks nate absolutely all right well we had uh had reed on there and that was good and that kind

01:02:24.300 of took us through some things there uh we're going to get back into some of the uh some of

01:02:29.700 the articles that have been punched up here for my lovely producer again we're going to start

01:02:33.440 we're going to start over again with the wildfire uh picture here uh thank you diane appreciate it

01:02:40.280 always appreciate prayers from people uh it's uh it's a scary time it's a scary time to put it

01:02:47.920 politely um but let's uh let's get rolling here with this this particular thing so we're going

01:02:56.480 to zoom out again here just to kind of get a picture of where the fires are uh we don't we

01:03:02.640 have some you know some hot spots everywhere lightning strikes that sort of stuff but uh

01:03:08.560 we're looking for the fires and the fires of course are in the central interior bc and then

01:03:13.500 what's this guy here suspected cause in daniel's river a state of control out of control well

01:03:21.000 that's not good so we've got one out here uh into the coastal region as well uh that's out of

01:03:26.680 control but still supposedly small right now so we're uh i mean we're not we're not happy about

01:03:36.220 all of it obviously this is lightning bean river eight hectares new we're well i mean i guess i

01:03:45.180 guess the simplest answer of course is that we're we're we're into fire season we're into fire

01:03:50.060 season so that's just how life is uh when it comes to what happens in bc during fire season ironically

01:03:56.780 uh some of us put masks uh we just got out of the mask mandate now we can put them back on for the

01:04:02.220 the fires of course they won't be the silly paper masks those don't do anything for anything uh if

01:04:07.000 you i remember one year i'll admit this everybody i know every i know masks are triggering word in

01:04:12.820 the western standard world uh they're they make people they make people really worried i'll say

01:04:18.400 it this way so back in god what was it that must have been 20 2014 was a bad year that was a year

01:04:25.260 that we built the house 20 and into 20 even 2018 or 2017 both of those years had some bad fires

01:04:32.280 i remember though at one point it was bad enough in 2018 that when you were driving on the road

01:04:36.580 wasn't that you couldn't see anything but the smoke was pretty thick and i did have to put on

01:04:41.200 my welding mask uh to just kind of you know give my lungs a break and with the carbon filters right

01:04:46.980 so i you know masks that are actually proper uh and for the particulate they're meant to block

01:04:53.660 they do work for that

01:04:55.820 they don't work when they're

01:04:58.040 just little paper things that your beard pushes

01:05:00.040 out and you're getting the same kind of air as you would

01:05:02.000 and even if you had no beard

01:05:03.340 even if you were a woman who completely waxed 0.99

01:05:06.060 and were hairless on your face

01:05:08.020 I don't believe you're going to get a perfect

01:05:10.180 seal unless you're literally going to

01:05:12.040 have had you know

01:05:13.580 some kind of gelatin on

01:05:16.120 there and even so

01:05:17.420 how's that going to work out for you? You're going to have to change

01:05:20.000 the mask every couple of

01:05:21.280 minutes to get it right

01:05:22.900 but uh let's let's punt that from the stream and uh let's let's uh let's grab something else here

01:05:31.420 so we're going to talk about a few different things uh when it comes to both where covid's

01:05:38.440 headed again uh just just just for those who might be joining the stream right now i'm going

01:05:43.340 to just quickly bring us back to where we started this morning which is uh with bonnie henry trying

01:05:51.940 to stay ahead of the curve trying to be the cool the cool chick uh at the front of the parade uh 0.94

01:05:58.180 which has now passed her a long time ago but she's having to sprint forward sprint forward

01:06:02.660 sprint forward uh the dam broke on the may long weekend people aren't listening anymore people

01:06:07.940 are tired people are going to the lake people are just going to do whatever they're going to do

01:06:11.940 uh you know they don't care and so but bonnie is trying to just pretend as if she's still in 0.91

01:06:19.140 control and she is telling us that hey oh yeah we're gonna move up what what our opening date

01:06:24.340 was to july 1st uh we're going to let people mask or not mask according to their own will

01:06:30.420 we're going to give people their own agency and that was kind of the uh that final statement

01:06:34.420 there in kerrig's uh report here so we are moving from a period where orders were required because

01:06:40.020 we had a lot of transmission in our community and every single layer of protection was incredibly

01:06:43.620 important now as we have protection through immunization and decreasing transmission rates

01:06:48.580 It is really important for us to give that agency back to people and you wear a mask

01:06:52.980 based on your own risk and based on being immunized and protected where you protect

01:06:57.840 others through being immunized as well.

01:07:02.220 Well, Lonnie, I have my doubts.

01:07:05.120 I have my doubts, but we'll carry on from there.

01:07:10.000 So we've got a couple of different things going on here.

01:07:14.640 One of the interesting ones that's been punched up for me is the article from the Epoch Times about the WHO.

01:07:22.220 Let's take a look at that, shall we?

01:07:25.800 From the Epoch Times, written by Mei-Ling Li, WHO stops recommending widespread COVID-19 testing of asymptomatic cases.

01:07:41.260 And that's from today, actually.

01:07:42.660 In updated guidance on COVID-19 testing strategies, the World Health Organization says it does not currently recommend widespread screening of people without symptoms, citing the cost of such a strategy and its ineffectiveness.

01:07:54.860 Widespread testing of asymptomatic populations, including through self-testing, is not currently recommended based on a lack of evidence on impact and cost effectiveness of such approaches and the concern that this approach risks diverting resources from higher priority testing locations.

01:08:09.880 We're going to stop right there.

01:08:11.540 I'm pretty sure that people argued this as far back as last year, but certainly by no later than the end of last year, beginning of this year, that testing people for the sake of testing them was not a way of figuring out where COVID was.

01:08:32.800 asymptomatic cases did exist and technically speaking i guess they could be carriers but

01:08:39.000 it never really made sense and it sounded like a lot of wasted tests and then it sounded like

01:08:44.360 some of the tests were not reliable so yeah why was testing of asymptomatic populations done in

01:08:51.380 the first place because the testing company needed to make money i guess it it i think a lot of what

01:08:58.680 happened in COVID really will come back to who was looking for money. I know that might be a hard

01:09:05.120 thing to hear. It might be a sick thing to hear. And actually, speaking of who was looking for the

01:09:09.000 money, who, that is to say the WHO, the World Health Organization, they get a lot of their money

01:09:16.100 from China. They get a lot of them in the United States as well, but they get a lot of money from

01:09:22.360 China. Just like the UN, it's supported by its member states, and the member states pay big

01:09:28.660 dues into it in order to have their will be done and to have political cachet within the organization

01:09:34.020 well the who definitely liked getting big checks from china and when things went sideways in wuhan

01:09:42.460 they helped cover up the evidence that's that's been proven that's mainstream stuff that's no

01:09:48.540 longer conspiracy theory people were saying that last year and they're being called conspiracy

01:09:52.320 theorists you say it today on june 29th a year and a year and a half since the beginning of 2020

01:09:57.340 almost to the day a year and a half later you know it's i was the day i turned 30 and everything

01:10:04.840 changed in the world uh here we are people are allowed to say yeah you know what the who i don't

01:10:11.120 really trust them very much and some people are like yep as they all wear masks makes no sense

01:10:15.920 so however countries with the resources decided to expand testing should demonstrate that they

01:10:20.360 have the necessary public image to place in place response to positive results uh so apparently if

01:10:26.120 a big enough country to pay for it you should pay for that anyways uh testing of non-symptomatic

01:10:32.760 people asymptomatic people uh should be prioritized for testing but in areas with ongoing community

01:10:39.640 transmission anyone who has come in contact should still quarantine for 14 days such as for disease

01:10:46.680 control georgia right atlanta georgia yep centers for disease control and prevention

01:10:53.880 uh aaron ekman is counting my yawns he told me that the other day so apparently that's i don't

01:11:00.020 know if that's my first yawn of the program i think it is i must have gotten a good sleep last

01:11:03.060 night he'll he'll comment on that later uh the centers for disease control and prevention

01:11:07.300 that acd and non-vaccine should be quarantined and tested if they're in close contact with a

01:11:12.940 covid19 positive individual people are considered fully exacting two weeks after the second dose of

01:11:17.700 messenger rna vaccine or a single dose of johnson johnson vaccine um

01:11:23.100 claudette making the point that this is of course just an arm of china

01:11:28.780 do i do i agree that who is just an arm of china certainly it acted as its puppet for a lot of 0.76

01:11:36.000 those times i i feel like we're in this bizarre moment there's a weird correlation here stick

01:11:42.500 with me stick with me see if you can follow me to this one so bonnie dr henry if you prefer

01:11:50.200 dr bonnie henry uh she is essentially trying to stay ahead of the curve the curve has been 0.72

01:11:59.440 heading that way for a long time people are tired of the mandates people are exhausted so what are

01:12:06.820 they going to do instead they are going to just do what they want so what does bonnie say oh by

01:12:12.840 the way doing whatever you want is part of the policy now and uh we weren't really sure about

01:12:17.820 all the stuff before but we just did it because we thought it was the safe thing to do essentially

01:12:21.580 admitting that she never knew what she was doing now the who is admitting that they never knew what

01:12:26.000 they were doing they told they told us test everybody and it's like that's not even possible

01:12:31.560 you can't test it you can't test everybody for pregnancy and we have an innumerable about a

01:12:37.240 pregnancy test and guess what there would be false positives in there there would be false positive 0.64

01:12:42.200 i don't know there'd be as many false positives there are with some other tests but i mean you

01:12:46.400 No, you can't test everyone.

01:12:48.400 That's nonsense.

01:12:49.260 That's nonsense.

01:12:50.200 It can't be done.

01:12:51.740 It can't be done.

01:12:52.760 You would need to stop the planet, have everybody line up in a row,

01:12:56.420 and then you have to supply them with water and food and whatever else,

01:12:58.880 depending on the climate they're in at the time, with winter clothes or not,

01:13:02.880 and literally have them walk for days through a testing facility to get that done.

01:13:07.780 And then you'd have to pretend as if you could get all those test results

01:13:11.120 both back to the person and into the state's various databases

01:13:14.920 in order to look through the data and see what it said that's not possible nobody can do a sample

01:13:20.560 size that's the size of the world and even the size of the canadian population which is only 30

01:13:25.820 million it's less than california it's not 30 million it's gotten up to like 35 or 36 or 37

01:13:31.560 by now it's still less than california we still can't test everybody in canada it's not possible

01:13:36.820 it's physically impossible it can't be done it can't be done and so the who which had told us

01:13:43.220 for for months just test everybody and and just trust us like that was already a nonsensical

01:13:49.260 idea and now they're saying oh yeah by the way you don't have to test everybody but also if you

01:13:53.180 have the money to do it maybe you should but if not don't and also still curtail the freedoms of

01:13:58.320 anybody who isn't vaccinated and anybody who uh who comes into contact with somebody with that

01:14:03.260 so that was because that's what they said right up here was uh viral testing

01:14:08.060 whereas fully vaccinated

01:14:10.940 vaccinated after two weeks

01:14:13.540 yeah people who are unvaccinated

01:14:15.620 was down here somewhere

01:14:16.760 yeah or for the unvaccinated

01:14:21.340 was in here somewhere

01:14:22.600 not vaccinated here we go

01:14:23.920 the Centers for Disease Control

01:14:25.060 says it's most updated guidance

01:14:27.140 that people who are asymptomatic 0.99

01:14:29.600 or not vaccinated should be quarantined

01:14:31.500 so you're saying lock people down

01:14:33.460 that have not been

01:14:35.280 vaccinated

01:14:36.960 i'm never i i have no plans to get the vaccine um no desire to do it

01:14:44.500 um people don't i i don't really understand i've heard all sorts of horrendous stories about the

01:14:51.880 vaccine mostly mostly the astrazeneca i don't have a problem throwing them under the bus i don't know

01:14:56.960 if the big pharma is going to come for me in my little basement here with my camera but if you

01:15:01.800 are go ahead like hey you're wasting my time and i'm wasting yours i suppose uh but it it it's silly

01:15:09.140 the astrazeneca had so many bad results for a lot of people i have no problem throwing that

01:15:15.600 under the bus and and quite frankly again we were dosing people with something that had been

01:15:22.360 developed very quickly that had not been properly tested uh and finally uh something that you know

01:15:29.580 in any population there's going to be variants and and that variance is going to cause health

01:15:36.380 problems when it comes to any given dosage done in large quantities for everybody

01:15:40.700 that's my two cents on that don't don't take the astrazeneca uh and if you can i mean

01:15:48.280 tell people that you're not interested in the vaccine because you know what i think

01:15:54.020 herd immunity is probably a better way and that gives you more control over your own body because

01:15:58.980 you you know you developed herd immunity and quite frankly it doesn't seem like the vaccines are

01:16:05.840 necessarily going to do anything for us one because of the variants that so they said two

01:16:10.360 because of the mal effects the vaccines have on some people and three because they also argue

01:16:15.880 you could still be a carrier even if you got the vaccine i don't really understand what the point

01:16:19.780 was i don't i don't understand what the point was so i'm not in favor of the vaccine uh and i'm not

01:16:26.200 going to take it so uh what happens if i close that window oh there we go just zooms me right

01:16:33.180 back that's actually really nice really nice um yeah so the no mask mandate we've gone through

01:16:40.300 that uh we've gone through uh a few different pieces of this i'm gonna i'm gonna kind of close

01:16:46.480 out this part of of the whole covid thing and actually i guess i guess today's a good day

01:16:54.220 to kind of sit back and think about like we are on almost we're again i'm a new year's baby right

01:17:01.520 so literally you know 365 days ago i guess inclusive because it's the 29 uh 366 because

01:17:10.080 it was a leap year last year i was you know i was turning 30 and the world looked like my oyster

01:17:15.220 and i couldn't believe you know i i wouldn't have been able to predict what was coming down the pipe

01:17:18.980 and and so my life has drastically changed some of it for the better uh in an incredible way and

01:17:24.640 some of it you know it was a really rough go it was a really rough go um but here we are we're

01:17:30.120 surviving we're scraping by by the grace of god but what i think i'm trying to drive home here is

01:17:35.400 that 18 months into this having been been kind of abreast of the situation every day for 18 months

01:17:41.400 not not following the not following the the climbing cases the falling cases that sort of

01:17:45.840 No, no, no, no, but just the gestalt of our times,

01:17:49.020 like just the spirit of the age from the moment

01:17:52.420 that we were kind of first hearing about this

01:17:53.900 to the moment when the lockdown finally came down

01:17:56.460 to the moment where people lost their job, I lost my job,

01:17:59.560 to the moment where I had to move to keep working,

01:18:01.920 to the moment where I got to experience

01:18:05.220 the last COVID free summer, to the moment where I came back,

01:18:08.660 to the moment where the churches were locked down

01:18:10.540 for a second time in British Columbia,

01:18:13.380 while Costco remained open.

01:18:15.840 finally into easter where we look like we were going to get it and then we didn't get it and

01:18:20.000 then finally to today what i'm trying to drive home here i suppose is that like i've been there

01:18:26.240 for all of it i've been there in some kind of bizarre ways of witnessing it okay like directly

01:18:36.160 and i don't think we had a clue of what we were doing i'm going to completely agree here with uh

01:18:44.160 with Mr. Jones, put him up there.

01:18:47.600 18 months later, we know no more about COVID

01:18:49.280 than we did then.

01:18:50.300 That's true.

01:18:51.740 It's absolutely true.

01:18:54.820 We don't know what, we still,

01:18:57.400 I'm trying to imagine explaining this to my children.

01:19:00.120 I'm about to get married.

01:19:01.440 We're Roman Catholics.

01:19:02.260 Roman Catholics have a very particular view 0.87

01:19:03.640 when it comes to contraception and procreation.

01:19:06.780 Very easily have a child,

01:19:09.420 provided God blesses us, very quickly.

01:19:11.700 and that child in you know by 20 27 is going to be capable of asking questions right with a

01:19:22.560 semi-rational mind and thinking through some of that and by before 2030 you know uh with a few of

01:19:33.760 their siblings obviously uh they're going to be capable of thinking kind of in group and again

01:19:38.640 consciously asking questions and you know they're going to have to at some point they're going to

01:19:43.440 figure out you know well i was i was conceived at this time i was born at this time and that sort of

01:19:47.360 thing and and they're going to sit there and be like hey i looked in my history book or whatever

01:19:51.440 and i learned about this this thing that happened right before you and mom got married uh what was

01:19:57.400 that about and their mother and i are going to have to look at them and be like you know what kids

01:20:02.800 we don't know we are still trying to figure out what that was about because we went through it

01:20:10.180 we lived through it and it wasn't like the war that our grandparents lived through that had a

01:20:15.100 beginning and an end and there's a reason and hitler invaded poland and there was there was

01:20:20.020 things that happened that clearly added up to a beginning and an end of a situation where people

01:20:26.140 where people were in conflict with one another and everything went from you know and as it was

01:20:31.340 in the first world war right they started with biplane or started with horses and and swords

01:20:35.640 ended with with tanks and biplanes and machine guns right it's just bizarre but the point is

01:20:43.740 that here we are you know let's say we're in 2030 and we're looking back at 2020 and i'm trying to

01:20:51.520 explain to my children what happened at that time and right now i again i'm going to be in complete

01:20:55.860 agreement with sheldon jones it's just 18 months later we know nothing what is that going to mean

01:21:00.040 after 20 after after another 10 years what's going to mean after after you know 1200 months

01:21:07.960 to put it that way

01:21:09.940 i i i don't know what the answer is it's a it's a difficult thing to try and face i i truly believe

01:21:24.100 if i'm being completely candid with you i'm going to move this over a little bit see if i can't get

01:21:28.600 my head centered a little bit better. There we go. That's better. I'm going to be completely

01:21:34.280 candid with you. Completely candid with you. I don't believe that a single thing that we did

01:21:42.040 worked. I think that every single thing that we did was based in panic. It was based in

01:21:55.620 people's pride around their expertise and the idea that they were in charge and they

01:22:05.360 had to they had to act and i i understand that feeling i'm not gonna you know something bad

01:22:13.620 happens in my future family and whatever else i'm not gonna i'm not gonna not act of course

01:22:19.520 i'm gonna act of course i'm gonna take charge of course i'm gonna try and do something but

01:22:23.900 i i would hope that i'd have the self-awareness especially in conversation with my spouse perhaps

01:22:31.600 privately to to be honest with the fact that i went the wrong way and i did the wrong thing and

01:22:39.800 i made the wrong decision and i need to say sorry and i need to back up and do the right thing

01:22:45.240 our politicians aren't doing that they are not admitting that the businesses they destroyed

01:22:51.660 are never coming back

01:22:56.480 and they're not admitting the amount of debt

01:22:58.760 that they've piled on to me

01:23:00.200 and people like me, people of my age

01:23:03.140 people that are just after me

01:23:04.960 the people who will be my children

01:23:06.560 they aren't admitting that

01:23:09.400 they aren't admitting that there's been a ginormous

01:23:12.000 wealth transfer upwards during this time

01:23:15.000 there could have been a re-establishment of all sorts of things

01:23:18.780 I got called a socialist on this show a couple of days

01:23:21.560 back just for you know arguing that maybe 10 houses shouldn't be owned by one man maybe 10

01:23:27.060 families should own 10 houses you know uh maybe there should be just a single freestanding home

01:23:32.920 for every every canadian family i don't know why i got called a socialist for thinking that but

01:23:38.420 apparently i'm a socialist i don't know that we'll bring aaron eckman back on to tell me what

01:23:44.000 socialism really is but i guess what i'm trying to drive home here is simply the fact that

01:23:55.360 i i really don't believe that a single decision that was made up top saved us in in their

01:24:05.280 preventative measures shut everything down lay everybody off give them all some cash keep them

01:24:12.800 at home put on the masks sanitize sanitize sanitize maybe maybe maybe the hand sanitizer

01:24:22.140 helped a little bit maybe i don't know i doubt it i think it was really good at giving people

01:24:29.440 rashes and and drying out their skin but

01:24:33.900 maybe sanitizing some surfaces was good maybe that was good

01:24:41.720 and everything that we did the the cure was worse than the disease and in a way the reason that

01:24:50.700 we're flipping channels so quickly the reason why ever since trump ever since trump lost i'm putting

01:24:57.140 that in air quotes uh ever since trump lost to joe biden the man who can't string a sentence

01:25:04.080 together without getting lost in his words ever since you know those in charge saw just how much

01:25:12.400 power they could exert exert over people ever since monetary policy was basically rewritten

01:25:17.800 to be like you know what i mean we really can just print more of this stuff like who cares

01:25:22.000 uh we don't believe in the value of money anyways ever since ever since you know the the the

01:25:31.100 effects of kind of making things more efficient by doing everything by delivery and and having

01:25:37.100 everything just come from the big box stores or from costco or from walmart or from amazon

01:25:41.280 it ever since all that stuff happened i think some self-awareness did take over and i think

01:25:46.640 decisions were made decisions were made and those decisions

01:25:53.360 those decisions had consequences and the consequences were real people died by their

01:26:04.420 own hand as they came to the end of things because they couldn't afford to help raise

01:26:08.340 their family anymore real people died as a result of not being able to see other people

01:26:13.720 and having their social interaction go to zero and therefore getting suicidal or being an old

01:26:19.280 person an old folks home and in your last days on earth you didn't get to see your family because

01:26:23.560 they weren't allowed to see you real people suffered real businesses closed real dollars

01:26:29.800 and cents got spent in a way that we don't we still don't know the cost

01:26:38.840 and that that's my honest assessment i believe that not a single iota of a single policy

01:26:50.760 the faintest hint or thought that was in the mind of a single leader elected or not in the western

01:26:57.140 world worked on this outside of to be honest with you i think i think trump trying to get america

01:27:05.440 restarted was the right decision I think Governor DeSantis Governor Noem both of them trying to

01:27:13.740 fight hard for restarting their economies or keeping them open and when it comes to Canada

01:27:20.780 it was the Adam Skelly's it was the Maxime Bernier's it was just anybody out there anywhere

01:27:28.580 just living their life just trying to live their life I don't know how much I agreed with

01:27:34.080 protest themselves i agree with the right to protest i agree that protests do send a message

01:27:39.460 to at least some people but i really do believe i was raised i was on my on my mother's side

01:27:44.640 they're mennonites right so conscientious objection is a big deal and so at a certain

01:27:48.400 level i just kind of think that people should have just been like no no like i'm going to

01:27:53.840 i'm going to my cabin and if you stop me if you want to stop me you have to shoot me

01:27:58.380 i'm going to church if you want to stop me you have to shoot me

01:28:02.120 i'm going into this business i'm going to live my life with my family i'm going to bring my

01:28:11.900 kids to school or i'm going to take them out of school because they were getting indoctrinated

01:28:14.620 to believe all sorts of random crap anyways that i didn't appreciate i i i believe that

01:28:21.540 not one thing that was done helped and the people who were running the place knew that

01:28:31.400 and they chose to do it anyways

01:28:35.080 or rather even upon realizing it

01:28:38.720 they chose not to stop

01:28:40.200 and we're stuck with it now

01:28:45.220 we've been waiting 100 years for income tax to go away

01:28:48.600 we've been waiting

01:28:51.100 40 years

01:28:53.620 almost 40 years now

01:28:55.360 for our constitution to make sense

01:29:00.040 it doesn't and it never will

01:29:02.460 but we're waiting

01:29:03.980 we're waiting

01:29:05.020 and

01:29:07.820 we're going to be waiting for the results of COVID

01:29:16.540 for a really long time but what do we know right now

01:29:18.720 what is the undeniable fact

01:29:20.280 China lied 0.99

01:29:21.660 people died

01:29:23.360 our politicians were inept incompetent

01:29:26.640 completely out of sync

01:29:27.840 unable to explain their position

01:29:30.080 Entire ulterior theories of the universe

01:29:33.400 sprang out of the discord that erupted

01:29:35.980 from the virus issue.

01:29:42.740 Big Pharma made a huge amount of money.

01:29:46.020 Amazon, Costco, Walmart,

01:29:48.740 they all made huge amounts of money.

01:29:50.900 Everything online made a huge amount of money.

01:29:52.880 Local stores suffered.

01:29:54.460 Local businesses suffered.

01:29:55.440 And the debt went through the roof.

01:29:59.540 and I truly believe

01:30:04.220 that not a single thing we did

01:30:06.400 worked

01:30:07.060 my concern Nathan is there's a large part

01:30:10.640 of society that are quite happy with the decisions that were

01:30:12.580 made that's from Sheldon

01:30:14.100 Jones again

01:30:15.700 I completely agree

01:30:19.360 Claudette

01:30:20.420 has a point here as well to the same point

01:30:22.640 no critical thinking is happening where I understand

01:30:24.740 how Jim Jones succeeded with the Kool-Aid

01:30:26.720 yeah

01:30:28.740 we we live in a technocratic theocracy i've used this term before and i'll use it again uh we'll

01:30:39.640 get we'll get to some of this other stuff that'll be a good segue actually in a moment when it comes

01:30:43.360 to the old theocracy we used to live in which is the catholic church back in the middle ages 0.99

01:30:47.360 uh and and how that's kind of literally being burned to the ground right now we'll get into

01:30:53.520 that in a moment but but we we live in a technocratic theocracy and a technocratic theocracy

01:31:02.340 is a place where technology runs the day and technocrats run the day and an inhuman machine 0.98

01:31:09.800 runs the day we live by the clock the clock doesn't live by us and that's what covid was in

01:31:17.440 some respects i mean especially if basically as of july 1st which is exactly six months of the way

01:31:23.120 through the year which puts us at exactly count depending on where you're counting from

01:31:29.200 15 14 18 months depending on where you want to count from but you know six quarters right six

01:31:38.660 business quarters six six one whole business cycle and a half count it from wherever you

01:31:44.800 want to count it the point is that if by july 1st at least here in british columbia things are

01:31:50.120 basically over we were living by the clock the whole way and so and so the technocrats when they

01:31:55.660 came in they made their presentations to our premiers and our prime minister and our local

01:31:59.820 mayors and everything else they came in they said look we need you to give us basically 18 months of

01:32:04.380 trust or whatever you're going to mortgage your future for the next couple of months this is

01:32:08.000 these are the paths we have for you this is what we're going to do and instead of thinking that

01:32:13.860 over and then being like you know what no i trust our people more than that i think i'm just going

01:32:17.920 give them some guidelines and let them go i think some of those experts cajoled them i think some

01:32:22.580 of those experts forced them to make that decision in order to save lives again in air quotes or else

01:32:29.540 they were going to go to the public or else they were going to go to the media and tell them well

01:32:32.200 we had an alternative plan but the reason these people are dying is because they refuse to listen

01:32:35.820 to us. I guess the simplest thing for me to say is that I didn't believe it then and I don't

01:32:49.800 believe it now. And as we just roll back all the restrictions and all the restrictions evaporate

01:32:57.420 and everything changes in a matter of

01:32:59.440 seconds, all

01:33:01.320 I can say

01:33:02.720 is that pretty

01:33:05.100 clearly, pretty clearly

01:33:07.000 yep, there's a disappearing on that

01:33:09.220 screen, that makes sense though

01:33:10.380 pretty clearly

01:33:12.600 no one's going to apologize

01:33:19.520 no one's going to say

01:33:23.160 sorry

01:33:23.540 there's actually a perfect segue there

01:33:28.740 we're going to think about the residential

01:33:32.840 schools and that whole question of apology

01:33:35.100 and everything else

01:33:35.880 and on to this question

01:33:39.180 of the fires that are

01:33:41.080 happening at churches

01:33:41.880 by the time we learn anything about

01:33:46.980 the pandemic

01:33:47.780 all the people who were in charge will either

01:33:50.920 be passed on

01:33:52.580 in their actual flesh and blood

01:33:54.240 or passed on politically

01:33:56.220 and dead to us politically.

01:33:58.280 They won't have an effect to politics anymore.

01:34:00.960 They won't matter anymore.

01:34:02.500 And if they're on the right side of things,

01:34:04.340 they'll be protected.

01:34:05.240 And if they're on the wrong side of things,

01:34:06.400 they'll be fed to the wolves.

01:34:08.520 Jean Chrétien probably has tons of crimes to answer for,

01:34:10.940 especially with being in bed with China 0.51

01:34:12.340 as much as he is.

01:34:13.340 Who knows what Paul Martin has to answer for?

01:34:15.180 Nobody's going after Jean Chrétien.

01:34:16.620 Jean Chrétien lives happy,

01:34:18.840 has his

01:34:20.540 has his you know lake house

01:34:22.140 has his millions doesn't answer to us

01:34:24.440 doesn't answer to anybody occasionally shows

01:34:26.640 up out of the blue to be like China's 0.95

01:34:28.900 helper here in Canada

01:34:30.420 and then goes back to doing whatever he does

01:34:32.500 I have no idea what John Kurchin does in the

01:34:34.520 meantime but he

01:34:36.520 doesn't answer to anybody and he doesn't care

01:34:38.120 and on and on and on

01:34:40.540 that exact same argument goes

01:34:42.000 the people who were in charge

01:34:48.640 during the pandemic

01:34:49.520 and

01:34:53.780 and all the decisions that were made

01:34:58.580 thereof, the people who were in charge during this entire

01:35:00.760 charade

01:35:01.580 are never going to answer for the way

01:35:04.380 that their decisions affected people

01:35:06.460 and harmed people in a way that will never

01:35:08.640 be, we can never calculate

01:35:10.100 it will never, it will go beyond

01:35:12.760 any thinking

01:35:13.560 there will be no

01:35:18.480 reckoning for what they did and there is no reckoning how much damage there was

01:35:22.800 i'm sorry if that was super depressing for everybody to listen to that but i i just needed

01:35:29.600 to get that out there i'm not saying i'm never going to talk about the pandemic ever again

01:35:32.780 or whatever but i here in british columbia there comes a time there comes a time in a war or a

01:35:42.340 battle where you declare a certain objective achieved or safe the best one really in a sense

01:35:47.340 when you're trying to take over a little island or something.

01:35:49.440 So, I mean, I don't know how much of that happened

01:35:51.580 with the Canadians in either of the world wars.

01:35:54.780 But I suspect that, I mean, I know we helped,

01:35:57.040 I think, in Sicily and in Italy.

01:35:58.960 But definitely for the Americans,

01:36:00.560 when they were taking over Iwo Jima and the other island,

01:36:04.580 which is escaping me, Okinawa,

01:36:08.280 both after rooting out every last form of resistance

01:36:13.900 and then turning them,

01:36:14.960 eventually going to turn them into air bases

01:36:16.880 in order to start the rest of the campaign against uh the imperial empire of japan

01:36:24.480 uh they they had to declare those areas safe right because again people could kind of people were

01:36:30.400 resistant right up to the end and they could be hiding in a cave somewhere and come and attack

01:36:34.720 you whatever so you have to at some point declare it safe enough to start working on safe enough to

01:36:39.200 start doing some civilian stuff on and whatever else and i think that's where we're at with july

01:36:44.000 one when it comes to british columbia british columbia on july one will be effectively declared

01:36:50.400 safe it's out of the pandemic we're ready to go everything's going to have evaporated nobody

01:36:59.600 cares anymore it's going to be old news and so on the eve of that almost i mean it's the 29th not

01:37:05.280 the 30th but on the eve of that moment i just need to state unequivocally that i remain completely

01:37:11.920 unconvinced of completely unconvinced that what was chosen to happen in the decisions that were

01:37:25.000 made and the people in charge were effective in any way shape or form and I don't say that even

01:37:32.120 with any malice necessarily I say it with deep deep regret because we didn't elect those people

01:37:40.080 to not know what to do and we didn't like those people to not select people who didn't know what

01:37:44.720 to do you know all right moving on catholic church is burning down so we're going to jump

01:37:58.960 to the epic times here again everybody loves the epic times um shit got uh let's see what 0.55

01:38:09.840 that looks like in there yeah interesting so two more catholic churches burn in bc's southern chair

01:38:17.360 chief says so mounties are investigating after they say two more catholic churches in british

01:38:22.400 columbia southern interior destroyed in early morning fires so that's the 26th of june three

01:38:27.680 days ago rcmp say the princeton detachment got a report at 3 52 a.m that saint anne's catholic

01:38:35.440 church on upper simulkeen sim simul common indian band land near headley bc was on fire

01:38:43.440 another report came in to the kromos detachment caromios detachment at 4 45 a.m that a catholic

01:38:52.800 church on lower simulkeen land at chumpra near the u.s border was ablaze nani say they're treating

01:38:58.640 both fires as suspicious looking for possible connection to fires that destroyed two other

01:39:02.880 catholic churches in the region so of course uh one of the sergeants gets quoted there

01:39:11.120 fires come less than a month after the discovery of the children the remains

01:39:18.080 uh please make the call

01:39:22.720 uh the chief keith crow says devastated by the fires if you're hurting at this time please

01:39:29.360 reach out to somebody and make the call there's a lot of upset people it's heartbreaking

01:39:35.840 and uh the church in choppaca was built more than 100 years ago um so that's actually a heritage site

01:39:48.080 see milk i mean diane is teaching me how to say see milk see see milk i mean thank you diane

01:39:59.360 churches burning you know you know where churches burn

01:40:06.720 in unstable countries in places where the consensus and the dignity and the courtesy

01:40:18.260 and the civility is beginning to decline that's where churches burn churches don't burn in a

01:40:26.700 well-ordered society churches don't burn except for completely by accident inside of a society

01:40:32.820 where law and order reigns supreme uh where you know freedom under the law peace order and good

01:40:37.800 government uh that that doesn't happen outside of very unstable places so let's think for a moment

01:40:48.820 if i told you that churches were burning somewhere where would you think that was happening without

01:40:53.700 a single hint of race in the question because let's be clear if you're a christian of that

01:40:59.720 region you're of the same race as the people around you you've lived there long enough you've

01:41:03.700 interbred you are not different races but the the case and point being of course iraq right where

01:41:11.480 where are churches being burned iraq right iraq uh iran especially northern iraq when isis was

01:41:21.780 running it and in syria and all through that area the middle east where our church is burning

01:41:27.220 people think immediately of the middle east and let's be clear christians and non-christians in 1.00

01:41:34.760 that area are actually all of the same race because they've all been there so long that

01:41:39.140 they have the same they're of the same background and we must remember that the converts to

01:41:43.540 christianity and the converse to islam because islam did not begin until 600 something 80 years

01:41:49.380 so the the both are converts of the same groups of people so in year zero right not year zero but

01:41:59.080 immediately after the death of christ we have the conversion of people throughout that area

01:42:04.260 who are all of the same races and eventually a few minutes later well as far as time is concerned

01:42:11.260 a few centuries later when islam comes on the scene they're all of the same race so this isn't 1.00

01:42:17.520 a racial question this isn't a a gaslighting question about oh well if i say if i say church

01:42:23.380 is burning what do you say if i say up you say uh no this isn't a dog whistle this is a statement

01:42:29.100 of fact if i say churches are burning the first place you think of is the middle east not british

01:42:35.880 columbia and that is a problem because i i think that most of it doesn't have to do honestly with

01:42:45.860 religion or culture when when churches burn in other parts of the world for the most part i think

01:42:50.400 it has to do with with one class of people or one demographic of people or one one agitated group of

01:42:58.860 people trying to take out their anger and their blame on another group of people even if they

01:43:04.060 have no effect on what's going on there so it doesn't matter that you know the president of

01:43:09.140 a country is the same ethnicity and religion as the people who are doing the burning of the churches 1.00

01:43:14.300 that president, for all of his failures, still gets the people under him still burn the church

01:43:20.720 instead of burning his palace. It's interesting how that works.

01:43:28.100 What I think I'm trying to drive home here is that it takes a pretty unstable, hateful,

01:43:37.240 angry society to get to the point where your places of worship are being burned.

01:43:42.220 that's not good that is a sign that your society is falling apart that things are not

01:43:48.840 going as well as you thought they were that is a bad bad bad bad sign

01:43:54.320 so where do we go from here

01:43:57.960 i don't know i think we're gonna have to find these guys i think we have to find the vandals

01:44:07.640 and we are going to have to uh definitely make some examples of people because you can't

01:44:13.720 can't be having that you cannot be having that um

01:44:21.400 if you uh if you let that if you let that stand uh you are inviting more violence on yourself

01:44:29.800 so we're going to go back into one of the other ones when it has to do with this

01:44:34.040 this question of burning of churches are you seem to be busy with fire investigations as

01:44:42.060 marchers have burned down the first nation uh reserves in bc calgary there's one in calgary

01:44:47.780 Let's take a look here.

01:45:17.780 with minimal damage and no injuries. That's

01:45:19.660 interesting. Minimal damage,

01:45:21.920 no interesting. Matt Gurney, that's right.

01:45:27.540 Staff Sergeant Darren Duren says

01:45:29.580 in a statement of the police, want to know if the blaze

01:45:31.740 could be linked to the recent fires that

01:45:33.580 was from the Gidawak Band

01:45:35.860 says the former Anglican church in that community

01:45:37.720 is no longer used and would be no way

01:45:39.540 affiliated with residential schools.

01:45:41.440 Two tiny Catholic churches, one in Headley, one in

01:45:43.480 Chopaka, destroyed by fires.

01:45:47.780 our cmp east of calgary said that they too are investigating a fire that appeared to have been

01:45:53.540 deliberately set at catholic church on the sisk sick sick sick sick sick first nation 0.95

01:46:00.240 early monday catholic children were also vandalized with red paint the last week

01:46:05.080 fires of vandal come less than a month after the discovery of what's believed to be the

01:46:08.760 remains of 215 children that the cow is first nation in the south eastern saskatchewan is

01:46:13.820 also investigating ground penetrating radar 751 unmarked graves okay so we've gotten through that

01:46:20.420 a bit um yeah no for sure uh sheldon's telling me that i'm breaking up hold on i'm going to

01:46:33.380 i'm going to

01:46:43.820 i'm back sorry about that uh sometimes sometimes uh the sync that happens in streamyard it has to

01:46:58.620 be it has to be uh done with uh done done some stuff with in order to make sure that it does

01:47:05.560 the right thing and now my headphones are a little fuzzier i think but i'm going to leave that for

01:47:09.360 now we don't have time to adjust that or else i'm going to disappear from your screen but you're

01:47:12.560 still going to have the green screen there i mean it's bad enough that this is disappearing

01:47:16.280 that's okay the point being though uh and uh and there's a good comment here or the media is

01:47:24.700 driving a certain narrative which causes anger i i completely agree with you the point that i'm

01:47:30.000 gonna try and make here is that for for my fellow first nations out there first of all i want you

01:47:45.100 to know that uh those of us who are more assimilated and maybe further away from the

01:47:50.700 pain that these discoveries are causing like we still empathize with you okay i'm sorry for what

01:47:58.260 happened and

01:48:00.420 people shouldn't have been ripped away from their parents

01:48:04.400 and any

01:48:08.260 abuse that did happen in those

01:48:10.400 places

01:48:10.900 is

01:48:13.720 irredeemable

01:48:15.320 irredeemable is strong

01:48:19.720 God himself says that he can redeem all things

01:48:22.080 it's

01:48:23.060 it's

01:48:23.540 it's awful it's terrible

01:48:27.340 and it needs to be punished the burning down of churches

01:48:36.140 isn't the answer and the reason it's not the answer is that

01:48:41.620 while some of those churches might have been built at the same time as some of these residential

01:48:48.580 schools and operated at the same time i think only one so far it's actually in direct relation

01:48:54.960 to one of the Indian residential schools

01:48:58.300 because it was actually part of the day school program

01:49:01.040 or something.

01:49:01.460 I think that was the one near Lytton or whatever,

01:49:03.200 the northern of the two in BC and southern BC, I think.

01:49:07.580 And even so, it wasn't the bricks and mortar

01:49:12.620 that hurt people.

01:49:14.240 It was people who hurt people.

01:49:18.940 And so my answer to this problem

01:49:23.080 is that we should find those individuals

01:49:25.720 who committed these crimes,

01:49:27.120 if there's any still alive,

01:49:28.780 and we should punish them.

01:49:35.740 The burning down of the churches

01:49:37.260 is actually just hurting your own community.

01:49:40.180 And I say this as a status First Nation.

01:49:42.480 I say this as a status Indian. 0.99

01:49:44.100 I am a devout Roman Catholic,

01:49:45.640 and it is not going to put me in solidarity with you,

01:49:49.360 regardless of what your own beliefs are,

01:49:50.920 how angry you even are at the church.

01:49:52.560 I've been angry at the church

01:49:54.820 you think all of us devout Roman Catholics

01:49:58.300 think that it's all good in the church

01:50:00.260 no there's a lot of us who are really angry

01:50:02.180 about it we're really angry about

01:50:03.860 the question around

01:50:05.780 abuse that happened at residential

01:50:07.920 schools and we're really angry

01:50:09.820 at our church too for not standing up

01:50:12.100 during the pandemic

01:50:13.600 and keeping its doors open because

01:50:15.820 guess what Canada

01:50:17.960 there's not enough police

01:50:20.100 and armed forces and bylaw officers to

01:50:22.040 close all the churches there aren't enough of those people if all the churches have stood up

01:50:26.520 and said if costco can be open we can be open until you close costco we are staying open

01:50:30.740 they would have had to let us stay open i was furious i was furious at the church

01:50:37.580 i'm still really i'm still really unhappy with their lack of consistency on this count

01:50:43.700 and uh i think the albertans putting it really well here

01:50:49.260 this is a perversion of visiting the sins of the father upon their descendants yeah

01:50:54.200 vengeance is mine sayeth the lord not i

01:50:56.520 he makes the point too i am no fan of the catholic church but historical wrongs never

01:51:04.740 be absolved by current vengeance

01:51:06.380 he's completely correct i'm saying this to you i'm saying this to you as somebody who is blood 0.97

01:51:13.240 blood of your blood and kind of your kind this is not worth it this is not how you should pursue 1.00

01:51:19.580 these questions this is not how you should vent your frustration and if somebody gets hurt in

01:51:25.500 the process two wrongs don't make a right they don't and the bricks and mortar they don't the

01:51:37.540 the wood timbers that were made you're just destroying heritage and it's everybody's 0.98

01:51:43.700 heritage your grandparents were baptized in that church you know that some of your parents were

01:51:50.280 the irreligiosity of our times means that you weren't but had had your family continued to

01:51:56.600 go to church or our culture not become so anti-religious you would have been baptized

01:52:01.500 there too because that's missionaries went by tribe that's you can tell what missionaries got

01:52:08.800 where by the last names of the indians who live in that area because that's the christian names

01:52:14.640 they were given it comes through the french missionaries and the scottish missionaries and

01:52:20.240 the english missionaries some of the german missionaries and they're the ones who gave people

01:52:25.840 non-Indian names and that's how you tell what kind of church was nearby the French ones are

01:52:31.980 probably French Catholic Scottish ones are probably Presbyterian some of them are Highland

01:52:36.080 Catholic but some of them are Presbyterian and if they're English last names well of course they

01:52:40.680 were Anglican and the other churches had their places too and I guess the point that I'm trying

01:52:46.000 to drive home here is that if you are in solidarity with me because of race and because of the blood

01:52:53.540 that flows through your veins

01:52:54.740 it flows through my veins

01:52:56.260 I want to empathize with you

01:52:59.980 and I want to stand in solidarity with you

01:53:01.580 and I'm sorry that you're hurting right now

01:53:03.140 but this is not the way to solve that problem

01:53:05.940 this is a very very very dangerous

01:53:08.640 dangerous dangerous way of doing things

01:53:10.400 and it will get somebody hurt

01:53:12.380 probably even killed

01:53:13.780 and that's not excusable

01:53:18.760 So I'm making an appeal to you here

01:53:24.660 Please don't

01:53:26.740 Explain your frustrations

01:53:31.560 Do some digging

01:53:34.060 I don't know

01:53:35.720 Pay off an official somewhere

01:53:37.080 So they let you go through the archives

01:53:38.800 While they go take a lunch break

01:53:41.340 Whatever you gotta do

01:53:43.400 But perpetuating violence

01:53:46.760 is not the answer and it will it will come back on you

01:53:55.040 i can't imagine what some of those curmudgeonly guys would be willing to do

01:54:03.520 if they got a hold of somebody who was trying to commit this act can't imagine they there's some

01:54:09.560 there's some pretty curmudgeonly old guys in my church let me tell you they would not have time 1.00

01:54:15.740 to be messing around with somebody that person who they catch especially if they're weaker than

01:54:21.120 them younger less experienced don't know how to fight that person's gonna get hurt badly and the

01:54:28.380 same thing is true of the opposite sort of thing do you really want to have to turn you know violence

01:54:34.720 upon you were just gonna go burn down this church wasn't that funny ha ha ha and now you have to get

01:54:39.040 into a violent confrontation with somebody the point where someone might be seriously injured

01:54:43.760 perhaps even killed that's not worth it i'm sorry it's not so that's my two cents

01:54:51.760 uh do as you will i suppose but i had to say what i had to say and upon your head be it

01:54:57.880 vengeance is mine sayeth the lord not you not me not the government

01:55:02.920 and uh we're gonna pay for that one if we keep going down that road that's about all we have

01:55:13.360 time for today. I'm thankful for everybody who tuned in. We're going to have two people on

01:55:19.480 tomorrow. I believe we're having John Robson, Dr. Robson of the National Post. And we're going to

01:55:25.500 have also Mr. Hinman of Alberta to talk about the Alberta Wild Rose Party. So we're going to talk

01:55:35.120 with these people about some of the questions of sovereignty right on the eve before Canada Day.

01:55:38.920 and i'm going to say this now um this is my show and and i make the rules around here now i do this

01:55:45.960 in discussion with my producer with some other people but but in the end i also have to make

01:55:49.560 some important executive decisions and here is one there will be no show on candidate that is not

01:55:55.640 uh out of solidarity or respect to anything or trying to support candidate or not support

01:56:00.280 candidate it's a stat holiday i'm taking the stat holiday uh there will be no show on candidate

01:56:05.160 So everybody enjoy your day off and feel free to be very unproductive on the Friday following Canada Day.

01:56:11.780 I would suggest taking it off.

01:56:13.060 I mean, Canadians aren't famous for being productive on a long weekend anyway.

01:56:19.100 So might as well turn it into a long weekend.

01:56:20.900 Just come back fresh on Monday would be my recommendation.

01:56:23.120 But there will be no show on Canada Day, which is going to be funny because it's going to knock us out of sync.

01:56:31.140 So we won't be on.

01:56:32.680 We won't be in threes anymore.

01:56:33.900 we'll be in threes minus one in one of our multiples but you have a wonderful you have a

01:56:39.780 wonderful day uh stay cool and uh if you meet somebody who's really angry about some of this

01:56:47.520 stuff any of this stuff the pandemic what's going on with the residential schools everything else

01:56:51.240 try to be an emissary of peace honestly try and bring down the temperature it's hot enough outside

01:56:57.400 and give give that person some pause for thought that you know what human to human person to

01:57:05.940 person soul to soul i feel you i feel your pain and i'm here to listen to you now let's move

01:57:11.320 forward into a less painful place all right amen amen you guys have a great day thank you so much

01:57:17.600 for your time really enjoyed your comments and we will see you again bright and early tomorrow

01:57:21.440 9 a.m pacific 10 a.m mountain

01:57:27.400 Thank you.

Western Standard - June 30, 2021

Mountain Standard Time - June 29th, 2021

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