Western Standard - Mountain Standard Time - May 25, 2021

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00:02:00.000 And welcome to Mountain Standard Time.

00:02:24.020 I'm your host, Nathan Gita, and today we'll be taking comments from viewers about essential travel and how traveling during COVID has gone for you.

00:02:31.420 So feel free to be pouring in in the comments, and we'll do our best to get to everyone we can today.

00:02:37.560 Also, what has it been like under the lockdown? And are you excited if you're in British Columbia?

00:02:42.180 Supposedly today is the day that changes everything.

00:02:45.680 We're supposedly past the circuit breaker that happened just before Eastertide.

00:02:50.680 We've been in some form of lockdown since November.

00:02:53.280 is the day the day we get released i don't know but in any case good morning i'd like to start by

00:02:59.520 giving some news i got engaged over the weekend i know i know congratulations are in order um thank

00:03:05.560 you so much i you know i i i was fairly sure of of the answer i guess but it's always a free choice

00:03:12.040 i was very thankful for her generous and unapologetic yes and uh as we kind of went down

00:03:18.380 that road together throughout the rest of the weekend um that i asked my beloved to marry me

00:03:22.380 and she was generous enough to say yes.

00:03:23.780 We celebrated throughout Victoria Day long weekend

00:03:26.460 and we were very thankful to be on our road to matrimony.

00:03:29.880 We actually plan to get married this coming summer.

00:03:31.760 We might drop you guys the live stream link

00:03:33.840 a little bit later, a few months from now.

00:03:36.700 As I reflected though this morning on our moment of bliss,

00:03:39.740 it suddenly occurred to me how many of the lockdown measures

00:03:43.020 had to be broken in order to make that moment happen

00:03:45.580 where I got to ask, will you marry me?

00:03:47.940 On one knee.

00:03:49.160 Without throwing anybody else under the bus

00:03:51.760 because we don't need to do that.

00:03:53.700 Everybody just helped, after all.

00:03:55.340 It's not their fault that they helped.

00:03:57.640 Let's go over some of the inhuman measures we're living under

00:04:00.600 and how I contravened them in order to just make a proposal.

00:04:04.540 So our faith is very important to us, me and my beloved,

00:04:07.180 and I wanted to propose inside of a church.

00:04:09.900 And so that meant I had to go and ask a cleric for access to their church,

00:04:14.900 which, of course, all religious spaces are closed right now,

00:04:18.800 While the Costco down the road continues to have record business and serve thousands every week.

00:04:24.280 So I had to go inside of a building that was closed by order of our provincial legislature, by an ordering council, by the deputy minister, and by the minister.

00:04:34.840 And it also forced me to, of course, interact with that particular cleric who is not perfectly in my bubble.

00:04:41.220 We see each other, you know, somewhat regularly, but he's not perfectly within my bubble.

00:04:45.100 So we got two strikes there already.

00:04:46.780 after she said yes my dear buddy over here came and took pictures for us because he's good at

00:04:54.640 that kind of thing and that's another trespass because technically speaking they're not in

00:04:58.680 each other's bubbles directly of course none of us were wearing masks because why would we bother

00:05:03.540 we're all plenty of space to be six feet apart or whatever if you care about that kind of thing

00:05:08.900 and also how would you take engagement photos with a mask on I don't really understand how

00:05:14.700 that would work. So we went off to the park and we got some more photos. But of course, thanks to

00:05:19.320 COVID, there were people there that we hadn't seen in quite a while. So we bumped into a couple of

00:05:23.600 people. We said hello. And again, nobody's wearing masks. Yes, everybody's outside and, you know,

00:05:28.160 pretty far apart, I suppose. But nobody really seemed to care. Oops. So family and friends have

00:05:34.100 a right to celebrate these events. And I had already arranged for my family and hers to have

00:05:38.080 dinner together that evening. We had some takeout and people from no less than four households

00:05:42.800 gathered uh in order to well celebrate us you know and there are various ages one of them was a senior

00:05:50.080 a couple of them bordering on being seniors and of course the health conditions of each person

00:05:55.520 is different and we all sat around the table and we uh got our congratulations it's really nice

00:06:00.400 and that was that it was a wonderful evening again if it wasn't for covid and all the fear

00:06:04.400 we have around us we wouldn't have known that we were breaking any rules the number of households

00:06:08.800 only increased the next day when we had our friends over. So it was quite a few different

00:06:12.860 households that day. Sunday was a day off for us. That was nice. We had, we just, you know,

00:06:18.060 didn't see anybody. We just wanted to spend some time together. And of course, we did do one

00:06:22.780 contravening thing. We went on the motorbike and went and grabbed some banana milkshakes out at the

00:06:27.120 reserve for some status gas. And of course, that's outside of my neighborhood. That's outside of my

00:06:33.460 area of town so that was non-essential travel i guess in in quotes and again we kind of trespassed

00:06:39.840 that so i mean the last thing that we did of course was on the monday we went up the uh we went

00:06:46.780 up a mountain not so far away it's about 100 miles away from prince george exactly and by the road

00:06:52.660 anyways not by the crow flies and we went there with some people who hadn't been able to make it

00:06:57.760 to our engagement party and therefore they were from different households again uh the road by

00:07:02.980 the way out west was jam-packed full of rvs and people going to lake country and who knows what

00:07:09.660 my father saw that coming back in he was doing a locum out in vanderhoof so as he came back in he

00:07:15.580 saw that on highway 16 it was clearly stacked to the rafters with people heading out to the lake

00:07:20.360 they didn't care they had to do some very essential travel make sure that their cabins

00:07:24.960 hadn't been burned down or that you know the booze hadn't been taken by the local hooligans

00:07:29.360 They needed to go check on things.

00:07:30.900 It's very essential travel.

00:07:32.820 And to the same point, you know,

00:07:35.000 there wasn't any cops out there along the road to stop anybody,

00:07:37.620 and no attempts were made.

00:07:38.760 I heard of no road checks throughout the Highway 16 corridor

00:07:42.340 up here in BC's northern capital, up here in northern BC.

00:07:46.740 So finally, to get engaged, let's just go over this.

00:07:50.040 I had to break the bubbles rule.

00:07:52.580 I had to go inside of buildings that are closed by effectively court order,

00:07:57.140 by the government's orders.

00:07:58.240 while the building next door is open and serves 10 times the people they do every day, every week.

00:08:04.760 I had to see people from different households because what was I going to do? Wear a mask on

00:08:10.080 Zoom and say, look, this is my beloved. We're, you know, we're engaged now. This is my fiance.

00:08:15.080 That's nonsense. And finally, between the little bit of the, you know, welcoming congratulating

00:08:21.620 parties we had and then going up the mountain, we were non-essential traveling and we were with

00:08:25.840 people from different households so i broke all the rules and i guess all i'm saying about that

00:08:32.280 is i'm not even encouraging other people to do it i'm just saying you know what like if if you

00:08:37.160 hadn't known that it was covid you wouldn't know that you're breaking any rules like that was just

00:08:42.240 normal life 15 months ago 18 months ago now we're getting into the 18 month mark here pretty quickly

00:08:46.600 a final line here in my opening statement is but without the constant fear in the media uh my

00:08:51.120 fiance, my fiance, I can't even say it right, I guess. I'm so Twitter pated. But without the

00:08:57.260 constant fear in the media, my fiance and I wouldn't have known we were outlaws. I guess

00:09:03.740 we're Bonnie and Clyde. Of course, Bonnie in BC means something else again. Thank you for the

00:09:09.260 congratulations, Verna. I appreciate that. No, I think this is an important place to start. We got

00:09:13.400 some articles up. This is going to be a bit of a long ranting day for this guy. Through the long

00:09:19.580 weekend we attempted to secure some people and those people did not get back to us which is

00:09:24.500 rightfully so it's the long weekend we don't want we don't want to bother people on their long

00:09:28.100 weekend so we're going to kind of just meander around a couple of topics a lot of it will be

00:09:32.720 covid based i know we're all getting tired of it but it it just makes for good copy it's easy

00:09:37.060 it's easy to talk about but but i just want to kind of refocus again one i'm very in love it's

00:09:43.300 wonderful, my beloved, my fiance, matters very greatly to me. And two, the joke being that,

00:09:50.720 you know, we're just two human people who just wanted to celebrate this very important moment

00:09:56.640 in our lives, right? That's it. It's very straightforward. You know, I used to smoke.

00:10:03.220 I'm not the most perfectly healthy person on the face of the earth, but I've improved that quite a

00:10:08.080 bit. I've probably lost about 70 pounds since Christmas or so. It's been whatever, about 50,

00:10:12.140 60 pounds depending on where you're counting from and so i'm in better shape i'm feeling better you

00:10:16.760 know um my beloved is a is an athlete she does a good job of that she was very competitive in in

00:10:22.480 some sports in her path you know the people around us are mostly healthy and no one's you know no

00:10:28.280 one's licking each other's eyeballs or spitting on each other or you know doesn't know to cough

00:10:32.660 into their arm or whatever like that we just observe the normal things that people do you

00:10:38.980 know the normal things that people do and i guess the i guess the thing i'm trying to drive home

00:10:43.420 here is that there is this beautiful moment this beautiful moment i've never been engaged before

00:10:46.920 i've never i've never been almost married i've never been married i don't have any uh exes in

00:10:53.560 my life or or alimony or child support i don't have any of that sort of stuff going on i uh this

00:10:59.380 is going to be my first and hopefully only marriage uh coming up and the point is that

00:11:03.720 this very important important moment in my life and I wanted to celebrate it as well as I could

00:11:13.460 and every single and the littlest things it's not like we went and had a destination uh engagement

00:11:19.440 or whatever like we didn't have you know we didn't do something extravagant I didn't invite everybody

00:11:23.880 to their dog uh apparently actually in some cultures engagement is a huge thing we were

00:11:27.740 actually just talking with some friends of ours who are from Central America and so just like how

00:11:32.980 sweet 16 is a really big deal in latin american countries like kitsinyeras for for women's a big

00:11:38.180 deal just like just like how in uh judaism uh men coming of age is a really big deal right in

00:11:43.700 judaism so so we have different cultures at different celebrations but when you get engaged

00:11:48.020 this is a big deal in other cultures but it's not even you know it's a big deal for us but i mean

00:11:52.720 we don't have a super formal cultural way of celebrating these things in in north america and

00:11:57.820 in Western culture. But the point is that, well, Anglo-American culture, I mean. And we just had

00:12:04.940 this one little thing, this one special moment for us. And every little thing we wanted to do

00:12:08.960 for that was a trespass against some kind of health order. And I think that's disgusting.

00:12:16.960 I think it's unjustifiable. I think that the fact, the mere hint that there is somebody out there

00:12:25.620 who thinks they have a right to be my school marm,

00:12:28.340 to be a hall monitor,

00:12:29.980 to think that they have a right to tell me

00:12:32.420 not just how to live my life,

00:12:33.600 live my best life.

00:12:34.540 No, it's literally like this most human moment.

00:12:37.540 This is a very important moment

00:12:38.820 between two people who love each other.

00:12:42.060 And somebody thinks they have the right

00:12:45.740 to tell you no about that.

00:12:49.100 And we pay that person.

00:12:50.440 We pay that person a lot of money. 0.77

00:12:52.260 We pay her and all of her henchmen

00:12:53.560 a lot of money over here, 1.00

00:12:54.420 Dr. Bonnie Henry and all of her little cretins that are that are pulling the strings here and 1.00

00:12:59.440 Adrian Dix who we can't really tell whether he's the elected member or not he keeps playing second 1.00

00:13:04.000 fiddle to somebody who's a hired bureaucrat who got it wrong during h1n1 I think and swine flu and

00:13:09.840 SARS uh had a disgraceful career in Winnipeg I believe was left on the shelf uh was not uh well

00:13:16.660 thought of and was you know trotted out for this pandemic because she was the only only thing they 0.97

00:13:23.000 had lying around they're just that's well that's the tool we got we'll put her up in front of

00:13:26.720 everybody uh we'll get her coached by the pr firm i mean stewart parker's been over this with us

00:13:30.440 uh you know very strongly coached by a pr firm right down to the terms that are used around it

00:13:36.320 like say uh the the circuit breaker right the thing we've been in since uh since uh easter

00:13:42.280 that person thinks that she has a right to tell me how to live my life and i'm like hmm

00:13:48.460 yeah no it's uh it's kind of mind-boggling it's kind of mind-boggling and i mean and and uh

00:13:57.800 actually to to certain uh to sandy's point here uh we don't care about your personal moments

00:14:04.240 well i don't think that's i don't think that's fair uh because my personal moments are also

00:14:09.080 your personal moments in the fact that i'm just another human being and there are other people

00:14:14.100 who are in far worse shape because they don't get to celebrate those things at all because they are

00:14:18.280 living in fear of the restrictions so i fine you know maybe my own little personal story doesn't

00:14:26.280 matter to you uh personally but i mean there are other couples out there who wanted to celebrate

00:14:32.300 in this way and because they're living in fear they didn't get to and that's a fear that's

00:14:37.200 propagated by people who we pay tax dollars to and it's supported by the media and it's supported

00:14:42.560 by people who think that all there is is, you know, say, protests, lockdown protests

00:14:48.800 and whatever else, and not just living your life and that being your best form of resistance.

00:14:54.420 You want to know what the most extraordinary thing in the world is, according to G.K.

00:14:57.160 Chesterton, right?

00:14:57.920 It's an ordinary man, his ordinary wife, and their ordinary child.

00:15:01.540 That's the most extraordinary thing in the world.

00:15:03.300 We're not trying to build a perfect political union out there.

00:15:06.320 We're trying to build, of course, a place that can raise families and that sort of stuff.

00:15:12.560 so let's uh let's carry on um i think we'll start with the actual the actual uh record as it stands

00:15:23.980 right now so we're going to go to check news for that we're going to go to check news uh that's

00:15:28.540 north island i believe uh they do an okay job um i i haven't had a lot of objections with check

00:15:34.640 news i mean it is just a subsidiary of some other jim pattison thing but it's it doesn't do so bad

00:15:39.860 of a job so british columbia health officials have reported 974 new covid cases since their

00:15:46.960 last update on may 21 that was the day i kind of engaged the number of confirmed cases in bc is now

00:15:52.460 at 142 000 supposedly three four seven 142 347 while the deaths hole climbs to 1679 with 12 new

00:16:05.320 deaths. Of the new cases, 157 record in Vancouver, blah, blah, blah, 60, 630 Fraser Health,

00:16:12.140 25 Island, 117 Interior, and 44 Northern Health. Okay, and that's where I am, Northern Health.

00:16:20.940 There are currently just under 4,000 active cases, so 3,953 active cases, 292 people are in the

00:16:29.780 hospital, 96 of whom are in intensive care. So let's do the math on that for a second. So let's

00:16:36.060 take the number 96. I'm going to use my phone for this so everybody can follow along, right? So we'll

00:16:40.940 take, we'll go 96, right? Divided by 3953 equals. So the number I'm getting for that is 0.024 0.96

00:16:58.380 and a bunch of other decimals, none of which is a five that rounds up that four into a five.

00:17:03.420 So 0.024, less than 3% of the people who currently are in the active caseload are in intensive care.

00:17:14.260 We wish those people well.

00:17:16.320 We don't wish harm upon anyone.

00:17:19.120 We don't dismiss this.

00:17:21.780 All I'm going to say is that while the people who are suffering and in intensive care,

00:17:26.700 you know god help them simultaneously i don't know how you can panic over a number below three

00:17:34.900 percent when it comes to intensive care hospitalizations not hospitalizations in

00:17:39.940 general but intensive care um and being in the intensive care unit i i don't really know what

00:17:46.180 to say to that it's it we were told from the very beginning that this was going to flood our hospital

00:17:52.120 beds and that sort of thing and we were going to be in big trouble but 300 people in hospital

00:17:56.920 throughout and 96 of them in intensive care that does not i'm sorry but that does not

00:18:01.960 a panic make so that's a starting place for us to kind of look at the numbers in the raw form i think

00:18:08.220 the other thing that we need to look at is the actual provincial uh restrictions which is kind

00:18:12.460 of funny because with the provincial restrictions uh there's all sorts of bizarre travel there's

00:18:19.820 all sorts of bizarre travel restrictions i want to go through these with you because it really

00:18:23.280 looks like nobody is going to uh nobody else is uh you know nobody is going to bother with with uh

00:18:33.300 with with actually following these restrictions when it comes to travel because the funny thing

00:18:37.860 is that if you look through the travel restrictions they literally that any excuse on earth will

00:18:43.340 probably fit into them i know for a fact that we'll just kind of cut off there for a moment

00:18:47.640 and come back here i mean again for those of you who are in alberta uh something that's kind of

00:18:52.940 hard for people to understand is that uh you know something that might be a little bit different for

00:19:00.480 you guys is that uh we we are we are a very kind of diverse province right i've explained this to

00:19:07.140 you before we're very diverse we have lots of river valleys our roads are not as nice as yours

00:19:11.220 we never had the oil money to build nice roads it's very different from the way things are in

00:19:15.780 Alberta. But for us up here in northern British Columbia, there really is a big culture shift when

00:19:20.720 it comes to down south. So I know for a fact, I don't know how bad or intense it is in some of

00:19:24.920 the police departments down in Vancouver and New Westminster and in Victoria. But up here in Prince

00:19:30.620 George, I know for a fact that a memo was circulated by the head honcho at the RCMP

00:19:36.820 detachment here who is effectively like, unless you have very serious cause to pull somebody over

00:19:42.940 and with something having to do with COVID,

00:19:46.160 you are not to pull anybody over

00:19:47.980 when it comes to the COVID question.

00:19:49.560 We're not here to enforce this.

00:19:50.900 This is nonsense.

00:19:51.740 It trespassed their charter rights.

00:19:53.920 I was the chief of police around here saying that.

00:19:55.960 Well, somebody was in charge anyways.

00:19:57.400 I don't want to attribute it to him particularly

00:19:59.080 because I don't know if it was him,

00:20:00.300 but I know that it did objectively happen

00:20:02.160 that there was a message from on high

00:20:04.120 that said in no uncertain trips,

00:20:05.280 we aren't doing this.

00:20:07.480 And finally,

00:20:08.920 the cops were all kind of the same way.

00:20:11.980 I don't think anybody is COVID crazy up here when it comes to the cops and they just all

00:20:15.800 kind of shrugged and went like, yeah, well, I mean, I got more important things to do.

00:20:18.620 We have an opiate crisis here in Prince George.

00:20:20.400 We got, we have a homelessness issue here in Prince George.

00:20:24.180 It's, we have people dying from, from opiate overdoses and homelessness here in Prince George

00:20:29.260 in a way bigger way than, than anything's going on with COVID.

00:20:32.400 So I think the cops were more than happy to go and be like, yeah, you know what?

00:20:35.860 This isn't my problem, not my circus, not my monkeys.

00:20:38.500 I'm just going to move on. And other people can be involved. I'm not I'm not dealing with this. I got to deal with people who are doing break and enters. I got to deal with a petty crime around drugs. I got to deal with theft. And I got to deal with the overdoses that are happening downtown in Prince George. And it's a really sad thing. It's a really sad thing for not for a long time. Prince George was actually doing better when it came to. Well, all those issues and what's gone wrong.

00:21:03.720 I mean speaking of things that are from China I mean between the the virus from China and the

00:21:09.800 opiates the fentanyl that are from China like it's just wreaking all sorts of havoc in British

00:21:14.620 Columbia and so we and we talked about this a couple of episodes back it is officially true

00:21:19.180 it's officially true that more people have died of the opiate crisis here at least here in British

00:21:23.780 Columbia than have died of COVID we had Aaron Aaron Gunn not not so long ago we were talking

00:21:29.340 with him about that a little bit because he was like yeah no this is something that's going on

00:21:32.720 And so it's a huge deal. It's a huge deal. And we need to be honest about this, that the opiate crisis is the real pandemic. It's killing people. I just, I just wrote a column on this. There's a young girl, Allie, Allie Thomas, I think. And she was 12. You know, she was 12. I mean, she couldn't, she couldn't die from the virus, supposedly, right? She's too young. Young people are dying at a point zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, whatever, lots of zeros, 1%. It's very, very low.

00:22:00.920 it's it's it's almost negligible the same amount of people die of the flu young people can die of

00:22:06.040 the flu young people can die of all sorts of of strange but usually non-lethal diseases but they

00:22:12.120 just hit them at the right moment and they die it just happens right or they're immunocompromised in

00:22:16.920 other ways and it's basic science basic medicine but the problem is the problem is that you know

00:22:22.600 this young lady this this young this girl right she's 12 uh she overdosed and she was actively

00:22:29.640 she didn't get overdosed because someone dosed her someone like stuck her with something she got

00:22:34.080 she overdosed because she would she was procuring drugs she was asking her older friends to help her

00:22:38.920 procure drugs like that's that's pretty sad you know that's pretty sad so it was beyond sad that's

00:22:48.520 that's beyond tragic so again like what's the real pandemic what's the real issue here um are we are

00:22:54.280 we treating the right thing? We've poured how many millions of dollars into COVID and we can't

00:23:00.620 pour one cent into treatment centers for people who suffer from opiate addiction and try and figure

00:23:05.700 out how to cure this horrendous thing that's happening in our communities and happening

00:23:12.180 downtown. I don't know what else to say on that point. It's just really sad. We'll skip over to

00:23:19.220 the provincial restrictions here uh for travel to be clear um just advising my producer on that

00:23:24.640 we'll use the travel one and uh we're looking we're looking at the travel one and we're going

00:23:29.260 to read through this okay we're going to read through this i you know i know everybody says

00:23:33.400 well the reading just gets boring with people i'm like well actually louder with crowder does this

00:23:36.940 all the time stephen crowder uh there's also you know there's hot takes from lots of different

00:23:41.920 commentators on the internet i think we can i think we can read through this a little bit so

00:23:46.300 So restrictions on travel between regions of the province under the EPA, an order restricting non-essential travel between certain regions of the province is in place until May 25th at midnight.

00:23:57.740 So technically speaking, that has expired as of nine hours and 20 minutes ago, 22, 24 minutes ago.

00:24:06.100 So we're at we're now past that.

00:24:10.520 And but what was going on until then?

00:24:12.840 So if we scroll down a little bit further, the order combines BC's five health authorities into three regions of the province.

00:24:19.400 So you get a picture there of how that works.

00:24:21.400 So literally, like, what is that?

00:24:24.740 Like 85% of the province is in one region now because the northern and interior regions were combined.

00:24:31.820 I live in the northern health region.

00:24:33.160 So that's the one that's up.

00:24:34.380 See the one that's up.

00:24:36.360 And then, of course, the southern interior has its own health region.

00:24:39.960 And then we have the lower mainland Fraser Valley that all got combined into one because so many people commute back and forth. And then finally, of course, the Vancouver Island Health Authority. So all of that kind of put together. So we kind of scroll down here a little bit for, you know, and the primary goal of the order, this is important. The primary goal of the order is education and reminding people about travel restrictions.

00:25:02.920 Police will not engage in random checks of vehicles or people on the street. Periodic road checks may be set up at key travel corridors between the defined travel regions to remind travelers of the order.

00:25:16.380 I don't know what to do with that statement. Can anybody else translate that for me? I'm going to throw that to the comments one more time.

00:25:23.120 Police will not engage in random checks of vehicles or people on the street.

00:25:30.780 Periodic road checks may be set up at key travel corridors between the defined travel regions to remind travelers of the order.

00:25:38.300 I don't know what that means.

00:25:40.660 I don't know what that means because you're saying the word police would immediately make me think of the word enforcement.

00:25:47.360 If there's a policeman, then rules are going to be enforced.

00:25:51.160 I slow down in my car when I see a cop, you know, if I know that there's cops out, you know, I make sure that I don't, I don't have anything to drink with my dinner, right? If the cops are out, you know, I make sure that my license plate is secured to the back of my vehicle and the stickers updated. Like, I mean, that's what the word police means. The word police doesn't mean police. The word police means enforcement. That's what it means. If there's a police officer, the rules are going to be enforced.

00:26:18.180 over here it's saying you know a police will not engage in random checks well then what's the point

00:26:25.880 of talking about restrictions i don't understand i know that over the weekend i i was looking this

00:26:31.220 up this morning over the weekend there were about four or five spots particularly in the southern

00:26:36.520 western part of the province as to say the lower mainland where there were checks going on so the

00:26:41.640 BC Ferries was doing its job to check people, I guess, kind of.

00:26:46.220 And then there was Highway 5 and Highway 1 near Hope.

00:26:51.420 And so there was a couple of different ones.

00:26:53.880 Nothing you wouldn't have suspected yourself.

00:26:57.680 They were all places that are choke points in the province.

00:27:00.780 Again, you guys in Alberta, if you're watching this, I mean, you guys got range roads everywhere, right?

00:27:08.580 As soon as you're out of the Rockies, like you really could drive in a perfect rectangle around Alberta and only touch pavement when you cross the major highways.

00:27:17.440 Right. Like you could do that. You can't do that in British Columbia. British Columbia has way too many mountains.

00:27:23.740 It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't work like that.

00:27:27.140 So, so the point that I'm trying to draw here is that when you, with, with BC, there are essentially arteries that go all the way down to Vancouver and they kind of intersect at Hope or on the coast, right? So we have the Pemberton artery that'll take you, take you back to 97, but it'll, but it goes through the coastal land. And we have the Coquihalla and we have Crow and we have, we have the number one, the Fraser Canyon.

00:27:50.520 So we have we have all these different things. They've just put basically they put people, I guess, enforcement officers on those choke points. And apparently people were were gotten and they were pulled over. But the joke being that I think I think actually that one that that's a good one there. The one that you just pulled up there, my producer, I think I think that only a couple people were turned back.

00:28:14.560 I think I was reading that this morning out of out of like the 500 vehicles that were stopped at one checkpoint, two, two vehicles were turned back.

00:28:23.480 And at the other one where another 500 vehicles were stopped at one point or another, another two vehicles were turned back.

00:28:30.140 So in all of British Columbia and maybe one person got refused service at BC Ferries, five, I think that's five, five people were turned back.

00:28:43.040 so let's see here

00:28:46.220 I'm not sure if this one's the one but

00:28:50.660 it's just yeah here we go to the British Columbia turned back

00:28:55.020 more than 100 vehicles at checkpoints enforcing oh that's interesting that's not the report

00:28:59.040 I read before fined at least maybe it's just two people getting fined

00:29:03.180 okay that's and that's not okay either but

00:29:07.080 that's interesting but 103 vehicles would turn back that's interesting because

00:29:10.940 I haven't, I hadn't seen that.

00:29:12.420 I'd only heard of a couple of vehicles.

00:29:13.840 I wonder if, I wonder if there's different levels of that report.

00:29:17.560 Maybe there's going to need to be more explanation.

00:29:19.860 Even so, uh, that says there's almost 4,000 vehicles passed through road checks and only

00:29:25.160 four, only a hundred were turned back.

00:29:27.560 Again, that math doesn't work out very much in anybody's favor of enforcement when it

00:29:32.080 comes to COVID.

00:29:33.120 So I, I, and I'm not advocating for that.

00:29:36.180 I don't want, I don't want anyone to enforce, uh, you know.

00:29:40.940 I didn't want anyone to enforce the COVID restrictions, obviously.

00:29:45.080 I'm just saying that I don't really understand what, hmm, I don't, I don't really understand

00:29:52.880 what the point of talking about enforcement is and talking about police.

00:29:55.660 If the first line that you use to talk about police is they won't be enforcing them.

00:30:01.300 So I don't, I mean, I guess, I guess you could just say, well, that's like a double blind

00:30:05.280 and it's like reverse psychology and the government's like lying to us even more.

00:30:08.840 It's like, okay, look, like, like I get all that.

00:30:10.940 I do. But at a fundamental level, maybe it was because I was raised by German Protestants. I

00:30:15.220 mean, you just say what you mean. So, you know, if nobody's using stop signs, you shouldn't just

00:30:20.300 start enforcing stop sign rules. You should probably just make all the stop signs yields

00:30:23.820 because like courtesy corners like you guys have in the prairies, because I mean, what's the point

00:30:27.680 of a stop sign if nobody's actually, you know, and if it's not appropriate, you don't need to

00:30:31.760 stop for three seconds at every stop sign. That's why nobody does. Nobody bothers. Because you look

00:30:36.960 both ways there's no traffic why would you stop and sit there and count three and then turn it's

00:30:41.840 a waste of gas it's a waste of time so but to the same end like if i needed the price of something's

00:30:46.900 the price we're not good at haggling in in my family because the price of something's the price

00:30:50.860 i mean of course something would cost this amount of money somebody wouldn't be trying to fleece you

00:30:54.460 for something why would they because i mean if something costs money it costs the money that

00:30:58.420 it's supposed to cost no more no less that's that it took a long time for me to get used to your more

00:31:04.140 anglo way of looking at things where like no everything's up for debate and everything's a bit

00:31:07.900 of a cost benefit analysis and there's a give and a take and that's it that's it that i wasn't raised

00:31:12.180 that way so coming coming maybe i'm just being too literal then but with this i'm i'm kind of

00:31:17.940 genuinely sitting here and going okay so we had we had these rules i'm i don't like the rules i've

00:31:24.960 never i've never endorsed the rules you know that but here we are we have these rules okay are we

00:31:31.580 actually going

00:31:33.180 to enforce the rules?

00:31:35.640 To the point of, we talked

00:31:37.720 about police. If you talk about police,

00:31:39.740 you're talking about enforcement.

00:31:41.240 Are we actually going to enforce the rules?

00:31:47.400 Apparently not, but apparently so

00:31:49.440 simultaneously. So we're talking out of both sides

00:31:51.680 of our mouth and we're lying at both

00:31:53.660 ends. It doesn't make any sense.

00:31:55.640 I know that up here the police didn't really do anything.

00:31:58.220 Apparently down there, one report

00:31:59.880 had it be only a couple of people were turned away apparently another report says all all but

00:32:03.860 100 people were turned away uh in either case to what end i'm not sure um and and because of what

00:32:11.620 apparently all you had to do was say and maybe those 100 people all they got turned away for

00:32:15.420 was they just didn't know the correct answer to the quiz which was you know this is essential

00:32:19.520 travel or i must go here i have to do this or i'm transporting something for somebody else i'm not

00:32:24.160 saying that that that should even be required you know being asked for your travel inside of your

00:32:28.460 province you should just refuse to answer i completely agree but still i'm just

00:32:32.700 i'm i'm kind of blown away i'm kind of blown away but i wanted to go to the comments a little bit

00:32:40.720 here uh what was what was anybody's experience over this long weekend did you get out did you

00:32:45.460 manage to break out of your particular metropolis or town and get to the lake and if you did did

00:32:51.300 you have to deal with the cops on the way and if you did that as well what did you say how did you

00:32:56.820 say it was there a way to kind of was there a way to kind of dodge the bullet get around those

00:33:03.840 questions so I'm opening that up to the comments I'd like you guys to comment on that a few a few

00:33:10.720 different a few different comments have been made throughout Patricia liked this the stop sign point

00:33:17.980 that was I I've been talking for 30 minutes about different aspects of COVID and about my my you

00:33:25.120 know dearly beloved my fiance uh but the thing that's kind of struck home for people is the uh

00:33:30.280 the stop sign yeah i don't understand the stop sign point i don't understand that like we in bc

00:33:34.340 i don't think we have a single courtesy corner in all of bc there are yields everywhere but those

00:33:39.020 are for on ramps off ramps right getting in and out but the idea of the idea of uh of a courtesy

00:33:44.480 corner like you guys have in the prairies which i think makes infinitely more sense uh just doesn't

00:33:49.420 work. We're not there. So we got it all around. There's another comment from Shelly here.

00:33:58.140 So many contradicting stories all around. Yet when I look in my world, I don't see sickness.

00:34:03.280 Other people driving alone with masks or walking outside with them on. Yeah, that's, I have to

00:34:08.860 admit that they're probably, I, if you want me to be really sad for you, like, don't tell me a sad

00:34:13.760 story go sit in your car and drive by me with your mask on i will i will be sad for you you

00:34:21.040 don't have to tell me you don't have to tell me a sad story if you are wearing your mask and you're

00:34:24.740 driving alone in your car i will i will feel bad for you and i will i'll pray for you i just don't

00:34:30.780 know what even to say to that like you're alone in your car like take your mask off that's not

00:34:35.180 how this works that's not how any of this works if what they're even remotely telling us if even

00:34:40.840 the mildest thing that they're telling us is

00:34:42.880 like that much true

00:34:44.820 which it probably isn't

00:34:46.820 the mask alone

00:34:48.980 in a car thing doesn't work

00:34:50.700 it doesn't

00:34:53.360 I don't know what to say about that

00:34:55.380 but we've had a few

00:34:57.040 other comments throughout the program

00:34:58.860 we'll kind of scroll up here and kind of take a look

00:35:00.900 around

00:35:01.220 Bonnie Wilson's got something to say

00:35:05.120 yeah no there you are

00:35:07.000 Bonnie the states have opened

00:35:08.900 up uh covet is gone now why politicians don't look into this further as it is proof that make

00:35:14.000 masks and lockdowns don't work if you're sick just stay home i mean this i mean this is an old

00:35:18.600 point about being sick and staying home of course we we do this with kids when it comes to school

00:35:23.460 and that sort of thing we don't want don't want sicknesses to spread so if you are you just you

00:35:28.260 just stay home that's that and and that's been a concept a mainstream well mainstream right wing

00:35:34.040 left wing anybody anybody and everybody throughout the last 50 years has kind of gotten used to the

00:35:39.040 idea that people need to stay home when they're sick and and not spread the cold around the

00:35:43.880 office that's a really bad idea because then that your whole workforce is just wrecked so

00:35:48.740 doesn't matter how much of a you know a hand whipping capitalist your boss is like he kind

00:35:55.780 of understands at least culturally at this point that if somebody is sick they should probably

00:35:59.360 stay home so they don't infect everybody else. But the nonsensical thing in my mind is still that

00:36:08.320 I'm just not seeing the piles of bodies in the streets that I would suspect I would see in a

00:36:14.820 pandemic. We don't have the same kind of death rate that we had with the flu 100 years ago,

00:36:22.860 the Spanish influenza, the pandemic that went around the world thanks to all the soldiers 0.99

00:36:28.400 returning home from the first world war that's how it spread and that's and that's how diseases 0.96

00:36:32.540 spread the pandemics let's be clear pandemics are real we know that like we know that diseases can

00:36:38.140 spread quite quickly and they can be quite deadly that that's not that's not the argument the

00:36:43.600 argument is where is the evidence that what we're living through right now is a pandemic

00:36:47.760 we don't have people literally dropping in the street we don't you know that's a thing that you

00:36:53.880 can still see in some parts of the world there are parts of the world where when a certain disease

00:36:57.520 shows up people literally drop in the street and you have to go collect them and and put them into

00:37:03.440 a place where they're not going to spread their disease because they're they're in the street

00:37:07.540 that's that is literally like we still live through those times you can go around the world

00:37:12.480 and you can be a part of a missionary order or doctors without borders and you can go deal with

00:37:16.500 that that's a real thing so that's not a question the question is for something that's been this

00:37:21.980 hyped, why is the death count so low? For something that's been this hyped, why are all

00:37:29.740 these rules, none of them even make sense anymore? The question is, for something that's had this

00:37:34.500 much excitement around it, this much fear, where is the kinetic connection in all of our heads that

00:37:40.340 we see in our lives? Man, like I lost it. Yeah, no, I lost a cousin. No, I lost it. No, this isn't

00:37:45.080 polio. You know, this isn't the Spanish flu. This isn't the bubonic plague. This isn't even

00:37:51.340 cholera back in the time, and all the other diseases that we used to get from mixing our

00:37:55.560 wastewater and our drinking water, right? Like, I mean, that's actually happening in San Francisco

00:38:00.200 these days, and in LA, because they're going back to medieval diseases, because people aren't using

00:38:05.680 indoor plumbing, they're just making their mess on the street. And that's mixing in with drinking

00:38:10.380 water and everything else. And it's creating a little denizens of disease around the city.

00:38:15.280 so it's all falling apart but this is the thing like here we are pandemics are real that's not

00:38:22.240 a question we all know there's such a thing as having a disease spread quickly but that's not

00:38:27.000 that's that's not rocket science the issue is the evidence just isn't there to tell me

00:38:32.640 that this disease is somehow more deadly than every other disease that's ever walked the face

00:38:38.140 of the earth and somehow it eliminates other diseases i think we're still someone can correct

00:38:43.300 me in the comments if I'm wrong. Am I wrong when I say that we're still without a flu season in

00:38:53.440 either British Columbia or Alberta? I don't think it exists. I think that was recorded the other day.

00:38:59.720 There were zero flu deaths between British Columbia and Alberta. That's, I mean, COVID's

00:39:06.420 a miracle, I guess. I guess there's no such thing as a flu death anymore. The flu kills people.

00:39:10.560 it kills people i have a buddy i had a buddy who was it was funny because it was happening right

00:39:15.920 and it's not funny it was actually pretty terrifying but it's right in the middle of

00:39:19.760 of the covid when it began this whole thing but but he ended up not testing positive for covid

00:39:25.240 back when we had tests that could test for other things he tested positive for influenza a which

00:39:29.880 is a really nasty virus and he and he was suffering really badly he was he was in a really bad way he

00:39:36.240 was not in a coma but like he had to like lie on bed for god knows how many days and they were

00:39:40.400 i think they were giving him intravenous food and liquid because he like he he was on death's door

00:39:46.240 it was pretty intense that was influenza a and he's he's younger than me he's a couple

00:39:52.720 years younger than me like so he's not out of shape he's not he's not a you know he's not

00:39:56.640 overweight he's not that was influenza a so diseases kill people like we're all on board

00:40:02.800 with that we get that what i don't understand is how covet has supposedly eliminated the flu

00:40:07.680 and i don't understand how covid has again just doesn't have the body count to merit the scare

00:40:13.040 that's around it i just don't understand it uh the flu was replaced with covid and all the sheep

00:40:18.160 bought the lie that's chris uh hunt rods here he uh just wanted to give us that one it was that

00:40:24.160 kind of thing i yeah there you go the flu replaced with covid and all the sheep bought the lie i i do

00:40:31.600 say i do say that uh there is something very fishy going on with the fact that there's there's

00:40:37.600 there's just no flu season and like the flu that the flu doesn't just almost kill my buddy there

00:40:42.480 like the flu and especially i'm sorry but the flu kills old people right like there's

00:40:48.000 there's no nice way of saying that it takes the life of our beloved elderly 0.99

00:40:53.440 if you want to say it that way like but it does if you go into an old folks home

00:40:57.520 something that is a constant threat is something like the flu and norwalk virus all that stuff

00:41:03.280 That stuff can take the life of elderly people

00:41:06.040 who are already immunocompromised very easily, very easily.

00:41:09.440 They slip away.

00:41:10.400 They slip away in the night.

00:41:11.520 They die of pneumonia and everything else.

00:41:13.860 So that's not the question.

00:41:15.860 The question is why are we all obsessed with the virus, COVID,

00:41:20.760 when the body count just isn't there?

00:41:22.740 I just don't understand it.

00:41:24.860 Selena Paley has got an interesting point

00:41:26.920 on the question of vaccine passports.

00:41:32.360 Yeah, it's just a little ways up there. Canada is pushing vax passports and debt relief. Didn't see that coming. We need to protect your children. Vax passports. Okay, so I didn't actually think I was going to get into that today. But you know what, honestly, we got we got nothing better to do. So we're going to start ranting about vax passports.

00:41:49.940 i can't see a single ethical objection to obtaining a fake vax passport if that actually

00:41:58.900 becomes necessary i'm just going to give my full uncaviated endorsement to that if they start

00:42:03.940 pulling that stunt i don't care who you got to talk to i don't care what corner of the internet

00:42:08.800 you got to go to i don't care if you got to go down to the you know dark side of the city and

00:42:12.360 talk to a guy in a trench coat who keeps trying to sell you i mean this is a muppets reference

00:42:15.880 or sorry a sesame tree reference hey kid yeah you want to buy an s you want to buy a w the guy

00:42:24.620 kept trying to sell alphabet stuff are we gonna get sued for that because that's another disney

00:42:28.040 reference i don't care the point is that it's it's hilarious right like i i i am never ever ever

00:42:36.400 presenting a vaccine passport to do something and the idea that i would is nonsense like is i i don't

00:42:43.560 even know how that would work vaccine passports yeah right like you know that you can still in

00:42:50.120 europe you're still supposed to scan your passport into a hotel do you know where that's a hangover 0.52

00:42:53.980 from it's a hangover from nazi germany that's not a joke okay it's not a joke when when a certain

00:43:00.320 mr a certain corporal who is actually austrian took over a certain country and then took over

00:43:06.160 all of europe and tearing it tyrannized everybody and then killed a whole bunch of people on top of 0.64

00:43:11.540 all of that and then you know put bodies into ovens because he's an absolutely evil wicked

00:43:16.420 terrible human being one of the ways that he started controlling people was that he did do

00:43:20.400 the passport thing passports are a big part of control absolutely they are and they they had

00:43:27.180 people scan their passports into hotels and that sort of thing improve their papers have to show

00:43:31.160 papers all the time papers papers papers because it was a way of controlling the population that's

00:43:35.880 an objective fact we all know that we all know that i don't know how far the libertarians were

00:43:41.320 ever right or wrong about driver's licenses. I'm a guns guy. I think my gun license is a waste of

00:43:47.300 time. It doesn't stop bad people from doing bad things. It doesn't help good people do good things.

00:43:52.400 It just says attacks on the good people while the bad people continue to get away with their

00:43:55.600 getting away with. We can debate all those other things to a different issue. But the idea that

00:43:59.520 you're going to get a vaccine passport, like, what? Like, are you high? I'm speaking to you

00:44:07.500 an authority in high authority apparently you're all you're all drunk off your keisters and you're

00:44:12.380 all smoking something that really should i mean i don't know what you're smoking but it's more

00:44:16.660 powerful than any other drug that's ever been on the face of the earth what what are you talking

00:44:21.600 about vaccine passports are you nuts can you hear yourselves like really if you're in charge and

00:44:28.900 you're at all somehow listening to this program or one of your you know crazy uncle shows up with

00:44:34.800 my program and piping it in through your ears or has it playing in their truck and you're just

00:44:39.020 stuck in the truck with them and you have to listen to it i i don't know what to tell you 0.70

00:44:43.520 but you are insane like you are everything that's wrong with the world if you think vaccine passports 0.71

00:44:47.880 are a good idea like that's that i don't know how you justify that how could you do that to 0.91

00:44:51.720 your fellow man how could you do that how could you look somebody in the eye and be like yeah

00:44:56.100 you know what this needle full of this serum that was developed very quickly and we've already seen

00:45:02.200 have had some complicating effects particularly when it comes to the astrazeneca i had a i had

00:45:06.440 a family member who was suffering from it literally got blood clots healthiest guy you've

00:45:10.200 ever met literally looks like james bond doesn't drink doesn't smoke no like just looks like

00:45:17.740 superman like blood clot first time in his life no family history for it and even the moderna

00:45:23.220 think uh i think our boss here actually uh our boss here um he he got the moderna the second

00:45:32.100 dose of whatever i think he i think he posted that on social media or something getting his

00:45:36.100 uh vaccine dose and he was put down for the count he was really knocked off his but

00:45:39.620 like i'm i'm not getting the vaccine like i'm never going to register for it i never want it

00:45:44.300 i don't i don't see the need for it i don't understand at all what's going on there i don't

00:45:48.360 know why i need to do that and they're doing a terrible job of even promoting it to be honest

00:45:51.940 with you over here in bc but but the bigger thing is that the passport that yeah right

00:45:56.480 yeah right you know when the world was getting crazy and bad enough i thought about throwing

00:46:02.340 away my passport i remember that right before donald trump got elected i was like man the

00:46:05.820 world is a crazy terrible place why would i ever leave canada like it's not i'm not going out there

00:46:10.120 i'm not getting taking hostage by some morons who think i'm the i'm the means to an end for

00:46:14.760 their political ploy like no and uh bleep that you know in in short order and then and then

00:46:21.740 now they're gonna make me have a passport to travel in my own country i'm not i'm not getting

00:46:27.020 that passport forget that that's not gonna happen you know and if i need it i'm gonna go get a fake

00:46:32.780 one not joking like i'm like i don't care like what are you gonna do about it half of them are

00:46:37.900 going to be fake more than half of them are probably already fake like why would people

00:46:41.900 get the real one you can just buy a fake one like what a waste of your time no it's just nonsense 0.52

00:46:48.700 it's just nonsense so anyways that was that was nathan on vaccine passports we'll get back we'll

00:46:53.340 get back to that in a moment but uh we've got the albertan back we haven't seen him for a little

00:46:57.820 while actually i don't know what happened his internet might have cut out at home the most evil

00:47:01.500 abuse is not the removal of basic liberty it's making people so afraid that they will beg for it

00:47:05.740 that is true i'm going to give the albertan credit there um it is absolutely true that there's

00:47:12.220 something very wrong with the world uh today and and it is that people are giving it away

00:47:18.300 for free i mean that used to be a term we used to use for you know a certain a certain act between

00:47:23.740 people and you're supposed to save that for marriage but uh certain certain people were

00:47:27.980 giving it away for free uh but now we're that we're that we're kind of we're kind of not being

00:47:35.020 very faithful or having a lot of integrity to our democratic ideals we don't think they need

00:47:38.780 need to be defended maybe you know not to wax too philosophical here but one of the concepts that's

00:47:43.900 being communicated to me and my fiancee while we walk through marriage prep is that you actually

00:47:49.800 have to defend your vows you have to defend the rights of this and privileges of this facility

00:47:54.540 of this instrument of this sacrament uh and that takes it that's a that's a two-way street and it's

00:47:59.500 a two-man fight you gotta it's both of you and a wife gotta fight for this you gotta fight your

00:48:03.780 corner and you gotta defend your family you gotta defend what you're doing well what nobody seems

00:48:08.020 to have told the rest of the world is on on the count of personal liberty where what what why do

00:48:16.020 you think that you your liberties don't need to be defended you know i don't know if that means like

00:48:21.880 calling calling you know our members in uniform you know slurs or derogatory comments and stuff

00:48:26.620 like that i don't know if it means like every time you have to deal with authority you start

00:48:30.240 denigrating them right away and you're just really reactionary i don't know if that's correct i don't

00:48:33.980 know like i i think that i don't think that's necessarily the christian thing to do but i but

00:48:39.600 at the same time there's this there's this question of like well how do you push back against

00:48:43.480 authority because it always seems to be pushing on you it always seems to be creeping in and and

00:48:48.460 to to the albertans point there right like it people are giving it away for free they're kind

00:48:53.520 of being little little trollops you know we'll use that word that's that's an old word little

00:48:58.980 trollops little strumpets and they're giving it away for free they're giving the government

00:49:02.500 full reign over their life and they're literally letting the government jab them with something

00:49:07.060 use that uh use that double entendre however you uh prefer but they're literally letting

00:49:12.580 the government into their bodies without without so much as a whisper of of of protest

00:49:19.520 and that's a problem that's a problem because i think that even if you are the most

00:49:26.500 totally statist i believe the government wants everything good for me i think everything's

00:49:31.480 just great like even if you're that person i don't know who that person is i don't know if i've ever

00:49:35.740 actually met that person i met some really like silly people who believe whatever the government

00:49:39.100 has told them but how many people actually positively affirm like oh no i totally believe

00:49:43.000 that the government like has my best interest in mind all the time like they are the experts i just

00:49:48.660 trust them i don't i've never met that person but the point is that that imagine if you were that

00:49:54.420 person it's like no every day i wake up and i look at the press releases i don't look at comment i

00:49:58.320 don't look at news I look at press releases from the government to know how to live my life today

00:50:01.880 that's my daily liturgy I read the press releases from the government these are the 10 things that

00:50:06.520 are happening and I'm I'm going to live my life according to the laws of the government for that

00:50:11.100 is you know in the name you know in the name of the state the legislature and all the bureaucracy

00:50:15.900 right like that's that's their religion it's like okay that's fine you your religion is the

00:50:20.680 government that's fine do do you actually want to just give up your bodily autonomy when it comes to

00:50:26.680 the vaccine like do you just do you really believe that you yeah no that's fine like i'm just gonna

00:50:31.240 i'm just gonna give up my bodily autonomy i like i haven't met the person who was already in favor

00:50:38.040 of the government that much i don't know how you could be in favor of of that like again even if

00:50:44.440 you think the government's out there to help you it just why would you think that the government

00:50:50.280 like look at the government food guide not to throw our poor dairy farmers under the bus here

00:50:54.120 i do have a problem with the dairy lobby i know that's gonna throw some people off we got a lot

00:50:57.800 of prairie watchers here we got some bc watchers here as well me and the dairy lobby don't get

00:51:02.520 along on this count i'm i have a family farm and we don't get paid we don't get subsidized we don't

00:51:09.240 get protected we're not part of the protected class we don't print money not saying those

00:51:13.080 people don't work hard saying we don't we're not part of the protected class so we you know that

00:51:18.360 that that rubs against us pretty hard it hurts but the point is that you know we we know that

00:51:25.720 the government's nutritional guide is also full of crap and that it was politically motivated

00:51:31.000 we know that the government you know favors some companies over those we we've all talked about

00:51:35.000 bombardier for years everybody watching this show knows about bombardier and the subsidies like all

00:51:40.040 of this stuff is clear and obvious and you don't have to be conspiracy theorist to notice those

00:51:45.480 things to notice how incompetent government is at so many things and that's just a statement of fact

00:51:50.120 like it's just a statement it's not even a denigration of the people running the government

00:51:53.160 necessarily it's just it's a big complicated machine and it breaks down a lot because people

00:51:58.520 can be lazy and selfish and just uninformed because the communication lines have to go a

00:52:02.920 long way i'm trying to give them the best shake i can there why would you let this entity give you

00:52:09.160 any dose of anything and even so why would you why would you let it control your life based on

00:52:15.080 whether or not you would let it give you a dose of something that we know has given given some

00:52:18.600 people some real illnesses some real hardships and it has killed people we know that why would

00:52:24.600 you why would you give up your bodily autonomy to that i don't know what the i don't like how

00:52:28.920 could you think that was okay i don't know makes no sense what else we got here in the

00:52:37.160 something i gotta bring that one up that's a good one bunch of trollops there we go it's a 0.95

00:52:42.280 little ways up there. There it is. 0.95

00:52:44.640 A bunch of troughs giving

00:52:46.260 the milk away for free.

00:52:51.380 That was

00:52:52.180 great. I'm starting

00:52:54.360 to wonder if Selena's a bot. 1.00

00:52:57.000 She might be. That's okay.

00:52:58.840 Hopefully she's not. Hopefully she's

00:53:00.440 real. That's hilarious. What's going

00:53:02.380 vaccine passports, social credit scores,

00:53:04.320 massive power in internet blackouts due to

00:53:05.980 hackers. Yeah.

00:53:08.100 Rich, I mean, I don't think you're wrong about it.

00:53:10.660 I really like your image, by the way. That's

00:53:12.180 pretty cool image um no it it this is getting entirely out of hand i mean it was out of hand

00:53:19.060 the moment that it started and there were some people who were i mean we all remember we all

00:53:23.140 remember animal farm right we all remember animal farm animal farm was just a minute here i got to

00:53:27.380 take a sip of this temperatures changed here in british columbia and it's getting a little drier

00:53:32.980 outside because it's summer and uh you got to keep keep things flowing um no i we all remember

00:53:39.460 animal farm right so animal farm we we know in no uncertain terms that that it was always doomed

00:53:47.300 from the beginning and the person who predicts that it's doomed from the beginning is of course

00:53:50.820 the donkey uh whose name is oh my goodness what's the donkey's name samuel i think the donkey's name

00:53:58.420 might be samuel i can't remember the point is that that the donkey predicts from the beginning

00:54:03.700 that that this is going to go wrong and things are going to go bad and terrible tyrannical things are

00:54:09.700 going to happen and now who was that person exactly when we were back at the 15 days to

00:54:15.140 flatten the curve i have to admit to you that i didn't think that this was going to last forever

00:54:20.980 i was a bit more cynical than people and i was like okay well i think i think what's going to

00:54:25.220 happen is the lockdown is going to happen but it's going to be extended a little bit because they're

00:54:28.980 gonna they're going to kind of cobble this together they're not going to be able to know

00:54:31.940 what they're doing they might take the lockdown because for us that was the that was basically

00:54:36.500 st patrick's day here in british columbia they might get us to basically june i kind of maybe

00:54:40.580 thought that and and with the serb and everything else and the cost of everything and needing to

00:54:44.500 get a job up north i just i got out of town i needed to pay for a truck i need to get out of

00:54:48.580 town went up north worked in churchill some great stories from there someday i hope the the employer

00:54:53.540 that i was up with there uh he uh advertises with us i need to i need to call him actually

00:54:59.220 But the point is this, the point is this, that, like, if you'd asked me then, I would have said, no, okay, look, I'm cynical about it.

00:55:09.220 I'm cynical about government power.

00:55:10.800 But how bad could this really be?

00:55:13.540 It's not going to be that bad.

00:55:15.780 Like, it couldn't be that bad.

00:55:17.520 It's going to be a few more months than maybe they said it would be, but we're going to get through it.

00:55:21.740 what i would do to go back in time and i don't know try and wake everybody up and be like no

00:55:32.100 we gotta we gotta i don't care if it's 15 minutes to flatten the curve we're not staying home like

00:55:36.880 everybody just go to work everybody don't don't bother don't don't don't listen to these people

00:55:43.040 just just get back to work just go back to work you know maybe maybe if you could work from home

00:55:48.620 go ahead and and and lean into it and work from home and help us get rid of all these ugly office

00:55:53.720 buildings that are useless we can fill them with condos and stuff and expand housing hopefully

00:55:58.740 bring down housing prices a little bit cool the market a little bit or there could be socialized

00:56:02.640 housing as well that's another way to use it the commute is a waste of time for people who are in

00:56:06.680 an office i mean you're sitting in a car to sit at a desk to sit in the car again to sit at lunch

00:56:11.240 like what a waste of time but the point is that that other than that like i would have said no

00:56:16.660 just just keep going to work if they tell you you're not essential that only means you're more

00:56:20.580 essential so just just show up twice as twice as often not twice as often to work but i mean just

00:56:26.220 show up twice as much just be like no i'm i'm here i'm really here and even if i hate my job

00:56:31.380 it's like nope i'm essential and i'm more essential i'm more essential than the people

00:56:34.540 telling me i'm not essential and so that's what you should have done you should turn around and

00:56:37.520 start sending them uh you know start sending them emails and say actually i believe you are

00:56:42.120 essential uh shelly has something to tell me uh uh what is it so it's your fault nathan for waiting

00:56:51.000 yeah yeah that's a good one that's a fair point yeah uh and then of course patricia

00:56:58.460 is back in there uh it makes the point of uh i wasn't listening to alex alex jones

00:57:05.900 yeah no i wasn't listening to alex jones uh at the time i maybe i should have uh

00:57:12.560 i don't know i don't know what i could have learned more from alex jones than not i mean

00:57:18.740 it's not not like alex jones has nothing to say not at all i mean i think he's pretty entertaining

00:57:22.960 and that sort of thing but i don't think he's wrong about much to be honest with you but i

00:57:26.940 think the flip side of the equation is that alex jones also you know he he's also had some hot

00:57:33.540 takes on things that didn't happen so some of that legitimacy has been has been harmed by by his own

00:57:40.500 doing and not just because people call him things it's just his own kind of thing but hey that's

00:57:45.580 life so i just i i'm looking back at that time and i'm thinking back to those moments

00:57:53.820 and i just i'm trying to imagine i'm trying to imagine what what i would have said if i could

00:58:01.420 have if i if i if i knew then what i know now what would i have done i don't know i don't know

00:58:10.880 i don't know i mean i mean we say this all the time about everything i mean it going back to

00:58:17.840 the animal farm point there's uh there's another there's another line about what happened in russia

00:58:24.280 and what happened with communism and totalitarianism throughout europe into the 20s and 30s and of

00:58:29.040 course into the 40s where millions of people died and one of the points that's brought up is i think

00:58:34.720 it's in the gulag archipelago which is of course by solzhenitsyn alexander solzhenitsyn who of

00:58:39.340 course spent time in the gulag um he brings up the point that looking back they wish that they

00:58:48.480 had just resisted with anything they could have said we wish we had taken table legs and whatever

00:58:53.760 we had in the kitchen drawer and just whatever he had whenever the statis showed up like there

00:58:58.560 were always more of us and there were them and if we had just resisted enough if the state had

00:59:02.480 just been made to to to suffer enough the state would have relented because that was the only

00:59:07.980 language the state understood was force corrective force and that's not an advocacy for violence

00:59:14.220 here i'm not endorsing violence but it just if things get much worse i think that things will

00:59:20.300 start to get violent i think things have already gotten violent in certain parts of the world

00:59:24.300 including the united states and others and canadians that aren't famous for our violence

00:59:28.880 we're not we're like we've never had a successful rebellion um domestic terror groups aren't very

00:59:35.060 inspiring or successful anarchy in canada is a word that gets made fun of by people on the left

00:59:41.620 and the right like nobody really talks about libertarianism in canada has basically no foothold

00:59:45.960 um it canadians are not famous for being disorderly right our very motto right is peace

00:59:53.620 order good government that's that's the those are the words you need to know about the british

00:59:57.360 north america act that founded us back in 1867 and i just don't i don't know what that looks like in

01:00:02.980 canada i don't know uh the albertans back with a couple more comments here um we have uh oh we

01:00:12.680 lost him there we go problem of government overreach is a generational problem of our own

01:00:17.400 making that that's absolutely correct um that's absolutely correct i don't mean to just pick on

01:00:22.360 one commenter we got other commenters here uh jeff smith makes the point of uh peaceful protests

01:00:27.800 and civil disobedience i i think that at this point civil disobedience is kind of like what

01:00:34.660 me and my fiancee did this week and i wasn't really sure why uh i don't know what i think

01:00:38.420 her name was jen or something she was super not into me telling my uh my story i don't know what

01:00:42.880 was going on there but but i think it was very much just like just living your life

01:00:46.780 like living your life oh jeff smith except for the except for the canucks riots yeah no look i

01:00:53.120 had nothing to do with the canucks riots and i don't really care for the canucks i do think that

01:00:57.080 was a really badly called game i i want i want to be clear about that that was a bad that was a

01:01:03.400 really really really bad of uh uh set of games set of calls that was uh it was terrible but

01:01:10.740 nonetheless they didn't have a right to riot um and uh that's not okay that wasn't okay people

01:01:15.720 got hurt and a lot of things got smashed and you know it was like those mostly peaceful protests

01:01:20.100 that they had down in the states last year they're mostly peaceful wasn't like there were wendy's on

01:01:24.580 fire or anything like that but but i think that i think that what we have to focus on here is is a

01:01:30.760 fundamental point of we we do have to turn the tide and i think it is getting turned by people

01:01:35.880 just living their lives i think in a way i people have asked me to come down to the anti-lockdown

01:01:41.340 protests and i've i've hemmed it hot about i've been very busy i mean i'm trying to get you know

01:01:45.980 trying to go from zero to hero in a year you know we're doing this broadcasting thing i'm getting

01:01:50.460 married i've got a bunch of other stuff you know on the back burner here it's it's a busy time i'm

01:01:54.700 moving this week um studio might be moving this week we're going to get into a tussle with our

01:01:59.900 our overlords about that see if we can't get our uh beloved beloved landlords to understand why

01:02:05.660 the studio needs to stay here and that tenants in british columbia actually have rights but anyways

01:02:10.540 that's that's neither here nor there the the issue at hand though is that like when people

01:02:14.920 ask me about the lockdown protest i i support the people who are doing it and for myself

01:02:20.260 i i feel like almost the best the best form of protest would be for us to just live our lives

01:02:26.540 i think there's almost a kind of self it's almost controlled opposition i'm not saying there's no

01:02:32.440 value to lockdown protests i'm not saying that at all i'm just saying that it's almost like a

01:02:36.800 beautiful way to filter out who who you would kind of you know monitor and write down their name

01:02:43.480 and like okay this person's here this person's here this person's here instead of us all kind

01:02:47.200 of going madly off in our own directions not to quote the cbc comedy show um and and just like

01:02:53.080 well you can't stop me and my fiance from going on a hike with a bunch of other people and the

01:02:58.660 1300 other people on the road and the 500 other people who went to summit lake and the 900 other

01:03:04.080 people who tried to get onto the island down south like if everybody just does stuff and just

01:03:09.200 goes places and keeps living their lives like you can't you can't enforce you can't if we all need

01:03:16.880 to come together and march on city hall or whatever like that's fine but i think that i think that the

01:03:22.320 best way to resist is for us to live human lives and in a way protest itself is not actually a very

01:03:28.560 it's a very political activity with very inhuman elements to it it may be done for human reasons

01:03:33.920 But ultimately, the most human thing you can do is, you know, be with your family, provide for them through your job, and do what you have to do, right?

01:03:43.180 I mean, let's put it this way.

01:03:45.240 Maybe this is an interesting view into my political view of things.

01:03:48.220 I believe that the only political thing I should have to do ever is vote.

01:03:55.180 I don't think I should need to protest or rally or send even money to political campaigns, really.

01:04:02.180 i should just be able to show up and vote for people who actually do their job they don't want

01:04:07.860 to take my rights away they don't want to take me they don't they don't want to hurt me they don't

01:04:12.580 want to hurt my family they're just interested in making sure that things are good enough and big

01:04:16.340 enough uh to uh you know i just i should just be able to live my life and and i think that

01:04:24.980 you could have representatives that want me to live my life and live our lives and not

01:04:29.700 not bother us like how hard could that be how hard could it be to be just like you know like

01:04:33.860 the old school way of being a politician you're just corrupt because you just you know you're

01:04:37.700 helping your brother get the contract like that's it like you didn't want to control anyone's life

01:04:41.700 you just sat around drank coffee smoked cigars and you were just kind of a jerk like that's it

01:04:47.380 that was it like that was all the control you want it's like well i got elected to this local

01:04:50.660 ordinance or i got elected to congress or i got elected to parliament and whatever and now my

01:04:54.580 brother gets all the contracts around here and i just you know i puff on cigars i take my kickbacks

01:04:59.780 i drink my coffee that's what happened to that corruption why why do people want to control my

01:05:05.460 life more than that i don't understand that was good enough right you were getting paid like who

01:05:10.260 cares i don't understand how how people it's not even just greed it's like it's control it's an

01:05:16.740 obsession with power and control it's not it doesn't even pay well do you know how little

01:05:21.140 you make as bonnie henry versus being a you know probably a bad politician handing out contracts 0.99

01:05:26.960 we make a lot more money you know why why would you want to be in people's lives big business big

01:05:31.840 government is big business in some respects there are there is a lot of money in big government but

01:05:36.080 nothing compared to the private sector and nothing compared to just cutting out the middleman's like

01:05:41.500 well i don't i don't filter my corruption through 600 bureaucrats i just do my corruption and i take

01:05:46.780 the check home and i i laugh and i i retire to i retire to the florida keys like i don't care

01:05:52.520 i don't care about you people like i'm just gonna go and do what i want to do like whatever happened

01:05:57.140 to that kind of corruption whatever happened to that kind of smarmy neglectful kind of skeezy

01:06:03.340 sort of thing i don't know i don't know what happened to it but i for some reason we have a 0.93

01:06:07.220 whole bunch of ninnies in government who want to literally control your life and i don't understand 0.94

01:06:12.260 that i i couldn't imagine doing that to people being in charge and being like yeah no i'm gonna 0.79

01:06:17.060 control your life with everything we're gonna go back into uh selena i guess she's trying to explain

01:06:24.820 to me that she's not a bot she told me that i'm doing a good discussion today well the discussion

01:06:29.220 is with me myself and i minus uh minus how how things go with the comments and that sort of thing

01:06:35.300 really enjoying the comments today um important for people to have their say on this show that's

01:06:41.780 what this show is about this show isn't about me it's about it's about all of us and uh and what

01:06:46.480 we're wrestling with here as as canadians in general and of course as western canadians in

01:06:50.800 particular there's there's something maybe to pivot with there uh and something that's kind

01:06:56.380 of coming to mind again when it when we're looking into oh look at that that's uh selena

01:07:04.100 she's she's got some things to say you know my my my fiance said this if i got engaged and then

01:07:10.400 when I get married, apparently, you know, you just, uh, all the girls become your fans because

01:07:14.200 all of a sudden you're just, you know, you're secure and not dangerous anymore, which for some

01:07:18.160 reason makes all the girls want you. I don't, I don't know. It doesn't really make a lot of sense,

01:07:23.440 but we don't, of course, in, uh, in Anglo American culture, we don't have, uh, men with rings on

01:07:29.320 before the wedding day, but I, I wish that that was a cultural thing. Cause I am taken, I am

01:07:33.700 betrothed but not going to be able to change

01:07:35.740 that for now

01:07:36.240 this is

01:07:39.800 actually an interesting point David Bjorkman is

01:07:41.740 a Canadian political expert we'll bring that one up

01:07:43.660 with Chris Marchuk there

01:07:45.000 just down a little bit that guy

01:07:47.420 yep Dave Bjorkman is a Canadian

01:07:49.580 political expert that warns Canadians we are in 1.00

01:07:51.600 colonial and premieres our first class citizens

01:07:53.800 and dictatorship powers where we are third class

01:07:55.600 institution doesn't even apply

01:07:57.180 that's a fair point 0.97

01:07:59.060 you know that's a fair point

01:08:01.120 uh yeah actually i got a lot of sun yesterday patricia but fair point

01:08:07.520 i'm blushing talking about about my fiancee always i always do but the point is that that

01:08:14.480 the funny thing uh that that ought to be made there with with the question of our first class

01:08:20.720 premiers and trudeau and our third class citizenship as we're all living it now

01:08:24.480 Now, perhaps the easiest way to kind of explain that is we did let it get there.

01:08:32.820 I think the Albertan pointed this out a little bit earlier is that this was a progressive set of votes.

01:08:37.100 We were we were we kept voting in parties that did just expand the power of government.

01:08:42.980 And and they didn't they never they never really redacted any of it.

01:08:46.960 This is the same thing even with conservative parties.

01:08:48.680 You bring in conservative parties, and supposedly, conservative parties cut down on the spending.

01:08:57.220 But they really don't.

01:08:58.520 They really don't.

01:08:59.240 If you look at the spending at the end of a conservative party's reign, they might spend slightly less, and taxes might be slightly down.

01:09:06.840 What they mostly did was they cut services.

01:09:09.420 And that doesn't win you votes, and people need their services.

01:09:12.840 Nobody wants to wake up one morning and find out that their neighborhood school doesn't exist anymore.

01:09:16.920 No one wants that.

01:09:17.740 No one.

01:09:18.340 I don't care if you're right wing, left wing libertarian, even if you're a homeschooler who doesn't who doesn't believe in public schooling, that's totally okay. I plan on homeschooling my kids. That'd be great. You know, the kids that me and my fiance are going to have probably going to be homeschooled. We've talked about this. But but the thing is that you still want to want to wake up one morning and find not just a school closed within the playground pulled down and it turned into a commercial development. And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, this this focal point of your neighborhood is gone.

01:09:46.760 there's no more soccer field there's no more playground there's no more like services are

01:09:51.560 more than services are more than just somebody getting a handout of some kind or getting a

01:09:56.120 service of some kind or getting some education you know in the form of service not just the

01:10:00.380 education itself but there being a facility to get educated at or hospital to get treated at

01:10:04.980 and conserved governments do a really good job of shooting themselves in the foot

01:10:08.920 by well they they cut services and nobody wants nobody wants to wake up one morning with their

01:10:16.640 services cut not a single one and so conservatives need to think through that a little better and

01:10:21.500 start winning elections based on ensuring more freedom and if there are going to be services

01:10:27.020 those those two are accessible in a more free way so for example a universal credit when it comes to

01:10:32.000 education you know what leave the school standing where they are but reorganize them in their labor

01:10:38.600 and in their labor and uh and curricular sense to be like look if you want to take this school

01:10:43.560 wherever you want to take it you go right ahead but people need to show up and if people don't

01:10:46.780 show up then your school is going to fail so parents get to be put back in control what's

01:10:52.080 in the curriculum and how their children are being taught and how they're being treated whether or

01:10:55.420 not they're being told you know gravity is a theory and the sun goes up and we circle the sun

01:11:01.880 and you know if you put two and two together you get four or whether there are you know 600 genders

01:11:08.100 and boys can be girls and boys

01:11:10.360 can menstruate too and

01:11:12.180 all that nonsense. So I think parents

01:11:14.440 need to be put back in charge of those things. But the problem

01:11:16.340 is conservatives keep not being the

01:11:18.260 freedom party and not giving people

01:11:20.200 more freedom. They just try to take the big state

01:11:22.260 that the liberals already built

01:11:23.480 and this, I mean this provincially and federally

01:11:26.040 and locally. So anytime progressives or liberals

01:11:28.420 get in charge, they expand the state, they do

01:11:30.320 whatever they're doing. And then conservatives come in and they

01:11:32.220 just try to push the state their

01:11:34.240 way instead of just deconstructing

01:11:36.180 that part of the state. And they could.

01:11:38.100 they could it's not just about cutting services though that's where they get it wrong well the

01:11:41.140 easiest thing we can do is cut these services don't cut the services eliminate redundant

01:11:46.660 departments in their entirety and cut down on managers put more frontline people out there

01:11:52.500 for the things people actually need and then you might actually start winning some votes

01:11:56.900 um well the albertans back again uh he's got some things to point out here the the problem

01:12:04.020 with an ever-expanding suite of public services is that you eventually hit a point of the government

01:12:07.860 touching every point of your life from cradle to grave. That's not incorrect. For me, and I don't

01:12:13.500 know if I've ever had a back and forth with the Albertan on this. I think we have a little bit.

01:12:19.220 I don't think the Albertan is a theist. I'm a theist, but he's not. I actually like to use the

01:12:24.700 word theocracy. I know I've used it on the show before. I'm sure it's getting to be a bit of an

01:12:32.400 old drum for some people around here, but I like to use the word theocracy. Theocracy better

01:12:37.480 describes in my opinion what's going on around here than perhaps anything else because we need

01:12:42.620 to understand about theocracy what we need to understand about the idea of like god ruling the

01:12:47.240 state or religion ruling the state like the state and religion like being totally synonymous in in

01:12:53.840 both your moral and political life and your the way you live your life your the laws of your country

01:12:58.560 all that stuff that that requires a very uh well and i mean the albertans kind of acknowledging

01:13:06.580 that a collectivist theocracy like this is exactly the problem and i would i would prefer the word i

01:13:11.860 mean maybe i would just add words that a technocratic collectivist theocracy would probably

01:13:16.180 be how i would put it at least or just a technocratic theocracy but we need to understand

01:13:21.860 that we we live in this time where like the state really is a religion like it is a religion um and

01:13:32.020 and it does follow you from cradle to grave it's there when you're born it writes your name into

01:13:37.360 a registry and then it gives you a number right that's what your sin number is that's where it

01:13:41.220 came from your social insurance number came from the day you were born you were written into the

01:13:46.400 registry right and then you're tracked through all of your life when you get your inoculation

01:13:50.780 speaking of vaccine passports like certainly certainly you know we have that tracked right

01:13:57.340 your thumbprint is taken by the state you get into school i was sent through public school i

01:14:02.320 wasn't homeschooled but even if you're not public school even if you're not private school even if

01:14:06.380 you are homeschooled like the way that you're being taught or you're being taught about the

01:14:10.480 government as if it's always right and you're being taught about these things and then finally

01:14:13.880 you're and you're being taught that experts are always in charge uh and so so you get into your

01:14:21.500 teen years right you're still being told the experts are in charge and you might rebel against

01:14:24.900 your parents who might rebel against your teachers but you know when you need to go to the doctor

01:14:28.700 because something isn't feeling quite right you just listen to the doctor and you're kind of very

01:14:32.460 credulous this is how we uh this is how we train train our people people that social social control

01:14:40.020 is very important because it requires social cohesion it takes a lot for us to get everybody

01:14:46.300 to drive their vehicles exactly the same right we want everybody to stop at red lights we want them

01:14:50.700 to go with green lights and people still screw that up and people still get into accidents people

01:14:54.060 still die so clearly social control isn't perfect but we try we try and create an ordered society

01:15:00.460 right and that ordered society requires that certain norms and rules be followed the problem

01:15:05.420 is that whoever is directing those norms and rules can very easily start manipulating other people

01:15:10.940 and coming back to both the albertans point my point on this question of theocracy like the

01:15:15.340 government really does follow you from cradle to grave to the point where the government can now

01:15:22.220 kill you right to the point where we we haven't talked about euthanasia on this show a ton that's

01:15:26.460 actually i should make a note of that and just glancing over my producer here we need we need

01:15:30.460 to bring somebody on who's who's an expert in euthanasia we need to find somebody and we need

01:15:35.180 to bring them on if anybody has an expert in euthanasia put it in the comments or send it to

01:15:39.820 me in an email because we need to talk to somebody about euthanasia because this is a big deal

01:15:44.940 euthanasia is wrong killing people is wrong yeah experts are people too that's correct

01:15:50.300 um killing people is wrong and killing people is wrong especially when when they're sickly and ill

01:15:58.400 and not fully capable of consenting and even if they could consent why would you want the government

01:16:03.980 to murder you like why would you say yeah that's what i want i want my government to feel free to

01:16:09.300 murder me it's like i said it was okay come over here and murder me big guy that'd be a good time

01:16:14.580 no i don't i don't want to get murdered by my government and it's gotten to the point now where

01:16:19.400 I wouldn't be able to put my parents into an old folks home that was publicly funded or publicly

01:16:24.040 kind of subsidized because I don't believe in I don't believe I don't believe in euthanasia and 0.99

01:16:33.260 I think that the government will start to slowly but surely try to get people off of off of the

01:16:38.720 rolls they don't want to be paying for people to be old and sick they want to get them off of the

01:16:44.260 budget so they're going to start killing them I really believe that I think they're already doing

01:16:48.920 it. I think it's already happening. Yeah, abortion and euthanasia are wrong. And the death, funnily

01:16:58.040 enough, I am a big fan of the death penalty. But that's a different, we're getting off topic here.

01:17:03.740 We're going to kind of swing back around to this issue of cradle to grave in its finer points. So

01:17:09.860 I do think we live in a theocracy. I think that we live in such a post-God time, a time where people

01:17:17.560 don't believe in God so

01:17:19.400 strongly, not in a sense of like, oh, they need to

01:17:21.540 believe in him perfectly and follow

01:17:23.540 his teachings perfectly. No, no, no. I just mean

01:17:25.460 just a general godlessness and a lack

01:17:27.620 of fear of God, just a lack of understanding of

01:17:29.500 there might be some final

01:17:31.440 examination at the end of your life where you need to be

01:17:33.700 pretty clear on why you made

01:17:35.540 the decisions you did. And maybe

01:17:37.260 if you get some of those decisions

01:17:39.500 wrong, there's going to be consequences.

01:17:41.980 Very simple. Very

01:17:43.360 straightforward. Nothing to write home about.

01:17:45.500 I don't think that's a super complicated take, but now we have a system where it's like, not only do we not believe it's at the end of time where you have that accountability, we believe that there's now accountability constantly, and it's only accelerating thanks to social media and the government surveillance we've all been living with since the 90s, and especially since 2001 with the September 11th attacks.

01:18:08.360 What's happening is you now have a personal relationship with your Lord and Savior, the Almighty State.

01:18:14.300 And it's a live relationship.

01:18:15.940 We're streaming this live, and your relationship with the government is live.

01:18:18.980 It's live.

01:18:19.600 Every year there's taxes, and you've got to file on time.

01:18:22.600 And if you say something out of turn, you might lose your job.

01:18:26.180 You could be a public sector worker and still lose your job for saying something out of line.

01:18:31.780 And you do.

01:18:32.940 you have a personal relationship with your lord and savior the almighty state the prime minister

01:18:38.540 the police the tax man the guy who comes and picks up your garbage the the state is your personal

01:18:45.580 lord and savior and and it and almighty and ever powerful and it knows more than you do and it

01:18:51.820 knows you better than you know yourself and and it's it's kind of interesting because you have

01:18:56.140 to give that accounting all the time and you're supposed to rat out your fellow sinners to the

01:19:01.260 the state. So if your fellow citizen is a sinner who's trespassing against the state, you got to 0.82

01:19:06.280 rat them out, right? So they're smoking in the car with their kids, people shouldn't smoke in 1.00

01:19:11.140 the car with their kids. But there's two versions of this, you either report them to to child family

01:19:16.320 services, or you you know, maybe go talk to them yourself and say, Hey, buddy, maybe you shouldn't

01:19:20.960 smoke in the car with your kids, maybe you should step out, smoke, get back in the car with your

01:19:25.460 kids, have a personal relationship with them, right? They can try and make a connection. No,

01:19:30.060 instead what happens in in our country and in and in around the world but also with the theocracy

01:19:35.340 of the state is that it is all powerful it's all powerful and it's monitoring you all the time and

01:19:42.380 so you're going to have to give account all the time so it doesn't just take care of you from

01:19:45.540 cradle to grave there isn't just the end of your life and you have a you you you know justify

01:19:52.080 yourself before almighty god at your final judgment it's like no no no throughout your life

01:19:57.020 you are constantly in a back and forth with the state and and the government holds you to account

01:20:03.660 a lot of different things and very powerful and can take things away from you incredibly quickly

01:20:10.220 and i think we all need to be honest about that very honest about it and uh and and and acknowledge

01:20:16.460 that canada has become i i think the albert actually put it really well there uh a collectivist

01:20:22.780 and I would say technocratic theocracy the experts are in charge everybody is being treated by group

01:20:29.180 rights instead of by individual rights people who step outside of the group are reprimanded

01:20:33.940 and persecuted and destroyed and finally we we really do rely on the government to do everything

01:20:43.200 for us it gives us a child tax credit it gives us the last it gives us our last rights it gives us

01:20:48.760 our OAS and our CPP. It funds us in school. It does all these things for us, and it is in charge.

01:20:56.320 And if you trespass in even the slightest way, it can make your life very difficult.

01:21:01.140 And you must be in fear and beholden to it all the time. That's a really dangerous thing.

01:21:08.720 Gary Price has got something to say to that effect. I think it's actually a good point

01:21:12.740 that he's making there. We have to take responsibility for what is happening right

01:21:17.200 now because we have given the government too much power and let them get away with this i absolutely

01:21:22.120 agree gary also has for his image a kid with a pirate hat and an eye patch on and that's really

01:21:29.160 awesome thank you gary or jerry i we have given too much power away and the only answer to that

01:21:36.760 is to just slowly but surely take take take back that power and we've talked about this a couple

01:21:41.560 of times on the show. And I, I, I really do believe that. So, so again, I'm still kind of

01:21:46.780 thrown off. I was thrown off my beat a little bit earlier when, when Jen or whatever, you know,

01:21:52.160 told me that she didn't care about my personal life. I kind of hurt, you know, I wasn't going

01:21:55.700 to go on about it all day, but that hurt a little bit. Speaking of personal life, one of the things

01:22:02.680 that me and my fiance are going to have to figure out as we get married and, you know, start our

01:22:08.140 family. It's where we're going to live. And the cost of housing in Prince George has gotten out

01:22:11.980 of control, as the cost of housing has everywhere, except for like the middle of nowhere, Saskatchewan,

01:22:16.100 I seriously considered moving there a couple of times, because I've heard some crazy stories,

01:22:19.620 like having a down payment with $5,000 on a nice big house in the middle of town with a nice big

01:22:24.620 lot, because it's kind of an abandoned sort of place. So that sounds pretty cool. So I've really

01:22:28.820 considered that. But we're not, we're not, we're not figuring that out yet. But the point is,

01:22:34.340 where are we going to move where are we going to live um one of the things that comes up is that

01:22:39.360 there is a non-conforming structure on my parents property and uh we did stop building it when we

01:22:44.140 were given the stop work order it's at lockup so it's been preserved from the weather and the rain

01:22:48.480 and everything but i seriously consider like i seriously question what would happen if we just

01:22:52.860 finished it like what would happen like what would they do what could they do are they going to

01:22:57.900 physically tear it down are they going to sue us like what what is the regional district the alr

01:23:02.980 everybody else what are they going to do they're not going to be able to tell the difference in

01:23:05.780 hydro they're not going to tell how many people are living there i mean the hydro the farm uses

01:23:10.100 that two more people you know charging their laptops isn't going to change the number on

01:23:15.540 the hydro bill in any significant way so how would they even know we were living there like really

01:23:21.540 and this is the thing that gets me about all of it if there is a path out of covid and if there's

01:23:25.620 a path out of the complete domination of our lives by the government from cradle to death

01:23:32.340 it might be home births and it might be building a shed without a permit and re-roofing your house

01:23:38.780 without a permit and doing up your front lawn in your in your little town allotment and the

01:23:44.720 community you know the covenant people come along they're like well what are you doing it's like

01:23:47.820 well i'm making a garden it's like well you're only allowed to have flower beds in your front 0.98

01:23:51.560 lawn you have to have your vegetable garden in the back sue me sue me do it try and make me not

01:23:59.960 have a vegetable garden in my front yard like why how come you get a say in that if i've made 0.72

01:24:04.260 something obscene made a big old phallic object in my front yard in front of a bunch of kids

01:24:08.780 yeah maybe you should be able to stop that but i'm just putting in vegetables like who cares

01:24:15.280 as long as it's kind of aesthetically pleasing and my planner boxes don't look like a complete

01:24:19.600 crap like why why do you care why does it matter how could this possibly affect your property value

01:24:25.120 it's not polluting it's not bad i'm just trying to make food for myself so i don't have to pay 0.81

01:24:29.440 you know the pied piper every time i go and like pay more pay more money out of this country because

01:24:34.480 a lot of our groceries come from outside of our country so this is the thing that bothers me

01:24:41.040 this is this is what bothers me like how come how come you can't how how come people don't

01:24:45.760 just kind of resist in that way they can't stop all of us they can't they don't have the enforcement

01:24:52.080 officers to do it the albertans telling me you know what the albertan is the albertan is like

01:24:58.320 the anti-joke chicken that's what he is he just he just tells me he's like dwight shrewd you know

01:25:03.280 they would likely issue a removal order and accompanying fine it's like well thanks thanks

01:25:08.480 for my inspiring speech just just going to nothing there um uh shell lee has got an

01:25:15.440 an interesting point here the only out is kenny to declare a texas move otherwise we will need

01:25:21.340 to take it back i don't know what that's a direct response to uh but here's here's something that

01:25:27.320 i'll put to um in cal and she also followed that up with in calgary we are not allowed to have a

01:25:34.860 clothesline in our record that's not that can't be true is that true somebody go confirm that is

01:25:40.780 that true i my producers work on that's nuts that can't be true i love related to yards

01:25:48.600 city of calgary we i mean people can tell me i was i was kind of uh stalling and making things

01:25:56.500 up as i went along all day you go right ahead and say that but i i i mean this this may be this may

01:26:04.580 be a a rabbit hole but somebody's got to figure this out this can't be true balky's church found

01:26:09.920 the Pinterest stairs maybe maybe we could try that one significant damage rot can he's filing

01:26:18.800 a complaint scroll back up oh we're gonna let our producer play with that a little bit but

01:26:26.620 if that's even remotely true that you can't have a clothesline in your backyard in Calgary

01:26:32.680 uh you don't live in canada anymore you live in crazy town i i mean one more reason for me to not

01:26:43.140 like calgary i have a lot of family there i love my family there i know that they kind of like it

01:26:47.320 there of course it's cost of things is exorbitant whatever but i just always felt like calgary was

01:26:52.760 always like trying to trying to be something it's not apparently the thing it's trying to be is a

01:26:57.200 place that's fascistly against clotheslines because that makes sense i don't know somebody

01:27:03.020 put out their nice lacy stuff and that kind of tempted somebody and so there was a complaint

01:27:07.280 now there's no more clotheslines it's like you know maybe don't put your delicates out there

01:27:11.960 maybe put your delicates on a drying rack at home but nonetheless that's kind of nonsense that that

01:27:16.680 anything i don't know it's just just nonsense anyways um i i think that as we kind of round

01:27:25.640 out the hour here, something

01:27:27.540 that needs to be

01:27:28.780 something that needs to be

01:27:31.800 clarified is that

01:27:33.540 there is only one form of resistance

01:27:35.320 and that resistance is non-conformity.

01:27:40.320 There are

01:27:41.160 oh, look at that.

01:27:43.840 While there are no such bias against

01:27:45.460 hanging clothes in line, so

01:27:47.140 it's developments in the city ban the practice.

01:27:51.460 Holy smokes.

01:27:53.480 Shelly was right. 1.00

01:27:54.420 holy smokes right to dry laundry as was discussed in part one of doing a laundry all natural there's

01:28:02.040 a movement afoot aggressively promoting the use of clotheslines instead of dryers which is great

01:28:05.640 because i mean who needs to use extra power and if it's a nice bright day out there there's nothing

01:28:09.620 wrong with it the right to dry campaign does have its hands full in some jurisdictions in canada

01:28:14.400 because there are city bylaws in place prohibiting the use of clotheslines while there are no such

01:28:21.680 bylaws against hanging clothes and linens

01:28:23.660 out to dry in the city of Calgary.

01:28:26.180 Some developments in the city ban

01:28:27.560 the practice. However, the only way

01:28:29.820 such a rule is actually enforced would be of a neighbor

01:28:31.700 to take the clothesline violator to court.

01:28:33.680 Part one looked at energy consumption of dryers,

01:28:35.560 the possible degrading effect of dryers might have on

01:28:37.540 garments. Now let's examine the germ killing

01:28:39.600 ability of sun power.

01:28:43.900 Okay, well, we'll go back

01:28:45.800 to rules prohibiting

01:28:47.620 the use of clotheslines with certain developments in Calgary.

01:28:49.540 Generally speaking, we are all free to make up our own minds.

01:28:51.680 a few particulars don't take the method you need to use to dry your laundry okay we'll go back to

01:28:56.520 the stream um i i don't know what to say about that that is i'm i'm you know what i'm gobsmacked

01:29:06.800 i for those of you who are listening to this on audio i am rubbing my forehead and just like and

01:29:15.680 the bridge of my nose and just being like i can't believe that this is happening um put that emoji

01:29:21.160 into your thought process i don't i don't i really don't know what to say um

01:29:26.640 calgary what the hell you guys got to figure that out that's uh i somebody needs to call nancy

01:29:37.040 or just fire him or whatever because i don't think really he's an elected official anymore

01:29:41.160 i think he's just a puppet of the bureaucracy god knows who um and probably just start putting

01:29:46.960 up clothes i didn't realize that clotheslines could be an act of rebellion let's actually

01:29:50.060 let's dwell on that for just a second it's like it's like the point i've been making since the

01:29:53.220 beginning of this show there is there's been some rabbit trails here for sure i mean we're

01:29:57.200 scrambling here it's it's after a long weekend you know it's still early here in british columbia

01:30:02.200 it's 10 30 but i never knew that life could be against the law that's that's the joke of this

01:30:12.980 whole show right that's the whole joke of this whole thing i you know my beloved and i we got

01:30:18.440 engaged uh and even to just get engaged given that we don't live in the same household because

01:30:22.760 we're not doing that because we're trying to observe the laws of our faith uh even that was

01:30:27.180 kind of pushing the the the bubbles rule and then of course including even one other person in there

01:30:33.160 was like totally contravene the bubbles rule and then traveling around to take the pictures like

01:30:36.780 this is just life man like it's just life like how how i'm somehow a criminal for getting engaged

01:30:44.020 and going on a hiking trip

01:30:46.000 and also apparently putting

01:30:48.000 a clothesline up in my

01:30:49.680 backyard in Calgary

01:30:51.680 because apparently that's a thing

01:30:53.680 I don't know, I don't really

01:30:55.700 how does

01:30:58.000 that work? How am I

01:31:00.000 a criminal just by breathing air?

01:31:01.740 I don't understand

01:31:02.680 we have got to figure out this

01:31:05.600 civilization because we're headed down

01:31:07.740 a very dark path

01:31:09.140 of not

01:31:10.320 yeah, of not

01:31:12.820 yeah

01:31:14.360 I don't have an answer

01:31:17.700 I don't

01:31:19.040 I don't have an answer

01:31:19.860 I think we're going to need to

01:31:21.380 move forward

01:31:23.140 and just do what's necessary

01:31:26.400 really it's kind of nonsense

01:31:28.100 there isn't an answer there

01:31:29.660 the answer is put up a clothesline

01:31:31.280 the answer is fire Nenshi

01:31:32.780 the answer is get engaged

01:31:35.160 the answer is have families

01:31:37.600 and the answer is live your best life

01:31:39.560 and understand that you are essential

01:31:41.700 and nobody can tell you that you're not a senator.

01:31:44.120 So, we got a couple more comments here.

01:31:51.260 Not just Calgary.

01:31:52.260 I think somebody made a comment about collecting rainwater.

01:31:55.400 Yeah, there are rules about collecting rainwater somehow.

01:31:57.800 Again, it doesn't make any sense.

01:31:59.320 Gary Price has got a point about wood stoves.

01:32:03.340 It's like wood stoves.

01:32:04.440 They're outlawing them too.

01:32:05.480 They want us to keep us paying for electricity,

01:32:07.060 which is a government corporation.

01:32:08.500 I mean, that's also not wrong.

01:32:09.860 probably more accurately they just don't want any self-sufficiency of any kind like wood stoves are

01:32:15.040 amazing and who doesn't love the smell of wood smoke like really people say they complain oh

01:32:19.300 you complain the smell of smoke it's like no you don't you go camping you idiot that's nonsense

01:32:24.860 i just don't like the smell in my neighborhood you do weenie roasts in your backyard like you 0.91

01:32:31.220 go to those like people smoke at your work not inside but i mean the idea that somehow having

01:32:37.460 a wood stove is going to be the thing that

01:32:39.440 sets everything else off. It's just nonsense.

01:32:44.300 You know,

01:32:45.640 people are,

01:32:47.260 people make the point that

01:32:49.400 we're just getting more and more

01:32:51.340 reliant on technology, but what we're getting more and more

01:32:53.480 reliant on really is, again, the state.

01:32:56.540 It's getting to the point

01:32:57.500 where you need their permission to do everything.

01:32:59.120 I guess I should have called Bonnie Henry and asked her 1.00

01:33:01.260 if I could get engaged this weekend.

01:33:04.800 Damien Salas

01:33:05.500 is making the point that it's a legal

01:33:07.360 to sleep in your car um i don't buy that i think it's illegal to be a vagrant so to live in your

01:33:19.340 car for an extended period in a public space that's probably illegal yes um even those rvs

01:33:29.180 that park over at walmart they park there for the evening because they're traveling they don't live

01:33:34.280 in walmart or if they do they stay there for a day or two they do not live there for a month

01:33:39.220 they would get asked to move uh so that's probably the better way to put it is that you can you can't

01:33:46.900 you can't live in your car on the street you have to move your vehicle pretty consistently

01:33:53.700 and you uh cannot be a vagrant um though in vancouver it's getting to the point where it's

01:34:01.200 so expensive to even rent a place people are living in their cars so what they're doing is

01:34:05.820 they're building they've all these do-it-yourself kits now where you can you can put a bed into the

01:34:11.400 back of of you know a big old cube van you know just not not even a cube van just a big old ford

01:34:16.920 van ford van dodge van like the old the old 15 passenger vans you pull all the seats out and

01:34:22.160 that's easy to do even for someone who doesn't have any tools or knowledge all they got to do

01:34:26.020 is unbolt everything and that's it the seats rip right out then you set up a platform to make sure

01:34:31.740 the bed fits in the back you put the bed in the back and and secure it so it doesn't shift around

01:34:36.420 when you're driving and now you've got now you've got a mobile apartment uh they also you know then

01:34:42.120 maybe they cook outside of it they have a gas stove or whatever or they do build a full-on you

01:34:46.960 know kind of little camper van sort of thing going on inside themselves or they buy an old one they

01:34:51.840 find an old VW one and they use that and that's where that's how they live they live in their

01:34:57.140 camper van because rent has gotten so expensive in Vancouver that it's impossible that it's

01:35:02.440 impossible to live there it's impossible to live there but if you work there why would you

01:35:06.640 you know because you don't need an address you don't need a physical address ever since we did

01:35:10.200 direct deposit right like we don't need we don't need physical addresses anymore right like if you

01:35:14.600 to live at one I mean so you just make the physical address your mom and dad's address

01:35:18.640 and they'll get your T4 when the time comes.

01:35:21.840 Otherwise, with direct deposit,

01:35:23.400 the money just goes in your bank account.

01:35:24.920 So you can just live in your vehicle

01:35:26.240 and work wherever you want to work

01:35:28.180 and save on rent.

01:35:30.320 You're just paying insurance

01:35:31.580 and you're paying parking fees,

01:35:32.840 which is a lot cheaper than rent in Vancouver.

01:35:35.540 And there's still free parking spots.

01:35:37.260 If you want a life hack,

01:35:38.120 I'm kind of giving this away.

01:35:39.940 I'm giving this away.

01:35:41.040 But if you want a life hack

01:35:42.560 and you're visiting Vancouver,

01:35:43.820 if you're ever allowed to visit Vancouver again

01:35:45.480 after COVID, whatever,

01:35:47.360 What you do is that you don't pay for parking.

01:35:49.300 I hate paying for parking.

01:35:50.420 I hate it.

01:35:51.440 I find it to be an absolute nuisance.

01:35:53.660 So what you do is you park your vehicle

01:35:56.460 underneath the Granville Street Bridge,

01:35:58.180 which still, as far as I know, has free parking.

01:36:01.200 So, and then you just walk the length of Vancouver.

01:36:03.780 Now you can go ahead and say, man, that's a long walk.

01:36:06.180 It's like, no, it's not actually.

01:36:07.360 It really isn't.

01:36:08.060 Vancouver's not very big.

01:36:09.060 You can walk all the way from the Granville Street Bridge

01:36:11.260 all the way down to Waterfront, where the sea bus is.

01:36:15.360 you can walk that in i think it would take you less than 40 minutes if you're going at a good

01:36:20.480 clip definitely take you less than 45 i think so and that's one way all the way down the strip

01:36:28.640 that's not to like the nearby stores and stuff that everybody's going to on granville and

01:36:32.420 everybody's going to on robson like those those stores are right there underneath the granville

01:36:35.920 bridge so you're good like park you walk up you get on on top of the city where the where the city

01:36:41.940 level actually is because you feel way below the city when you're down underneath the Granville

01:36:45.780 Bridge. You get up to where the city is and you go up and down the main drag and you go and visit

01:36:49.500 those shops you wanted to visit and you're not paying for parking. That's great. I hate paying

01:36:53.700 for parking in Vancouver. It's egregious.

01:36:58.640 So some people

01:37:01.460 made some points here. No one went to a university

01:37:06.000 in the Fraser Valley. I went to University of Trinity Western. So that's

01:37:10.080 why i'm familiar with the lower mainland um you know and uh chame chame came chame s is making 0.99

01:37:19.160 the point that uh they refuse to stop foreign ownership that's the artificial inflation this

01:37:25.160 is something that needs to be kind of discussed a little bit further i think uh the issue of housing

01:37:31.100 and costs but and then food of course everybody's making this point but every consumer item everything

01:37:35.920 every consumer price index item is going through the roof lately and it's an interesting point

01:37:40.640 here the the issue of foreign ownership this is a catch-22 and again it's something that we in uh

01:37:48.400 we we in conservative circles have a have a hard time with because

01:37:54.400 on the one hand money's supposed to flow and and if you get out of the way the market

01:38:00.320 supposedly the market will fix itself supposedly things will go well and supply and demand will

01:38:06.840 follow their natural course but as we watch prices get out of control and as we watch

01:38:13.400 wages stagnate and as we watch things get harder and harder to purchase and get by and and we see

01:38:20.080 that even at a people can say all they want about foreign corporations like that's bad

01:38:24.680 foreign ownership is bad but you know it's no better here in Canada when you're on your third

01:38:30.060 house and it's just another rental um i i appreciate that you you know i appreciate that

01:38:37.640 you did well in life and you managed to put down payment on something and then when it came when

01:38:41.500 there was enough equity in the thing you were paying for you were able to use that as leverage

01:38:45.040 against the next house that you bought then you filled it full of people we're going to pay the

01:38:48.600 mortgage for you and then you're going to do it again and again like i understand the concept i

01:38:53.360 understand but we might want to reconsider that concept and think to ourselves hey maybe i don't

01:38:59.700 need three houses. Maybe three different families need a house each. Maybe houses aren't for

01:39:06.740 flipping. Maybe houses are for living in. Maybe the key to lower housing costs is to not make 0.99

01:39:16.000 there be so much red tape. And maybe I need to be willing to let, you know, the city expand its

01:39:23.900 borders and to incorporate more land in order to do more development so that other people have a

01:39:30.060 place to live too you know it's nice that my house backs on to the edge of town or to this nice

01:39:34.880 greenway and whatever and it's like well that's cute and everything and I'm not saying I don't

01:39:38.020 want there to be greenways but it you need to think about your fellow man as well your fellow

01:39:42.280 man needs to live somewhere you know and if everything else is bought and all he can do is

01:39:47.220 rent and he can't get into the market because everybody is literally right they're literally

01:39:52.480 i heard a story the other day we went to look at a house me and my fiance just just to look at it

01:40:00.640 and uh while we were there the real estate agent uh told told me that he had one guy who was flying

01:40:08.260 up from vancouver to buy a place up here in prince george and that's another thing that kind of

01:40:11.520 throws us for a look i don't really like it when the vancouverites come and buy up all their stuff

01:40:15.220 but whatever uh the vancouverite showed up and they were chatting and they're like well i'm only

01:40:20.740 here for one day and i want to buy a house and he's like wow i mean you've tendered a couple of

01:40:24.020 bids a couple of places but i mean you closing a house in one day that's pretty crazy like no

01:40:28.640 we're gonna buy a house today so he took him around to a couple of houses that were up for

01:40:32.120 sale and they were already in bidding wars things that things that are built in the 60s

01:40:37.400 their bc bungalows their split levels some of them got flat roofs torch on they all this stuff

01:40:43.380 and what happens is you know because the cost of construction is so high right now like these

01:40:49.500 houses are selling for insane amounts and so way north of 400 this was into the maybe it was a

01:40:54.760 little bit newer than the 1960s but this was in the borderline for 480 range into 500 and he dropped

01:41:03.760 he dropped like another 40k on over the over what the bidding war had put it at

01:41:09.800 and that was the end right because he won he won um and so i you know that's not moral i'm sorry

01:41:22.160 i don't i don't i'm not saying you didn't deserve your money but it's not moral there's something

01:41:26.960 deeply unethical and immoral about that and we can't we can't live like that like we that's not

01:41:32.660 a society anybody wants to be a part of you can't you can't have a society where even a starter home

01:41:40.440 is going for north of north of you know two and a half times the median income right because what's

01:41:48.060 the median income of a family in canada right now it's 80 ish is it 80 i think it's 80 we'll go look

01:41:55.860 that up but so more than two and a half times more than three times the median income of a family

01:42:01.940 yeah 71 000 so wow it's way below 80 it's it in bc oh it's 84 in bc even so even so a median

01:42:15.540 income if the median income of a family is 84 then a house at most that's a starter home

01:42:26.880 should be somewhere in like the 240 at maybe 280 range starting at 310 starting at 350 starting at

01:42:35.340 four for a house that was built in the 60s that needs to be renovated desperately you're or even

01:42:41.520 it has been renovated but then you got to ask yourself is a bc bungalow really worth four

01:42:45.940 hundred thousand dollars i don't i don't see that you know but um yeah richard has got some

01:42:54.580 correcting points to to make for me uh nathan people renting houses out of to others isn't

01:42:59.940 the reason for high housing prices inflation and low interest rates are the main reason

01:43:03.780 don't understand your reasoning i i maybe i can explain a little bit better um

01:43:09.780 i would say that part of the problem of high housing prices you're not wrong about the

01:43:14.100 inflation but but but where you are wrong it's richard i think but he called himself richard

01:43:22.820 i think i think the problem is uh and aaron angers a fair point but i was i was talking about it in

01:43:30.820 its gross form as well that's that's how i was discussing it and we always talk gross numbers

01:43:34.820 right of course but uh but fair point fair point i think what i'd say to richard is that uh the

01:43:42.020 only reason that those people own three houses is because of low interest rates that's why

01:43:47.700 so you shouldn't actually be able i don't care i don't care if you were in the middle class

01:43:56.400 you shouldn't be able to afford three houses i don't want you to be able to afford three houses

01:43:59.600 you should be able to afford one house and maybe a vacation property because interest rates should

01:44:03.320 be high enough that it's costing you too much to buy just one house let alone three so you're

01:44:10.340 going to have to actually get a decent down payment and then you're actually going to have

01:44:14.760 to pay or pay your mortgage. And then the bank has got to be kind of iffy about handing you another

01:44:21.720 house, maybe giving you a vacation property, maybe getting you a line of credit to renovate

01:44:25.780 your place. That's nice. But the idea that they're going to give you a whole nother house? No,

01:44:29.400 no, no, no, no. And the bank should be in the bank's interest too. So the bank's like, no,

01:44:32.860 I'm more interested in selling to more people and getting more people into houses than I am

01:44:37.840 to selling you 10 houses. And I don't care that the paperwork's more efficient to sell you 10

01:44:42.140 houses than to sell 10 people one house, I don't care. I'm going to be a good, strong, moral,

01:44:46.360 ethical human being who understands it is far more important for me to put 10 people in 10 houses

01:44:50.240 than one person into possession of 10 houses, because that's nonsense. And the only reason why

01:44:55.520 they can even do that is, of course, because interest rates are so low. So once you break

01:45:01.040 into the housing market, which is already egregious, yes, because of inflation, but once

01:45:05.640 you break in there, you actually just join a class of people that it's just a casino. It's a money

01:45:09.900 making machine, right? It's just a giant casino. We have no idea when the plates are finally going

01:45:13.920 to stop sinning. We have no idea when the roulette ball is finally going to drop. So you've become

01:45:17.920 part of the mortgage class. Congratulations. Now what you've done is you pay into your mortgage

01:45:22.600 just a teeny weeny bit. And let's be clear, it's just a teeny weeny bit before they'll start giving

01:45:25.860 you more money. And then you use that to buy into another house. So now you have the leveraging to

01:45:30.820 do that. And that's already inflated again, right? So that's the multiplier, right? Because you're

01:45:37.940 you've got multiple houses in hand because you like playing monopoly and you got in you only

01:45:44.360 got in because of the low interest rates and then you only got in again because you had the leverage

01:45:48.220 to do it whereas somebody trying to buy for the first time right if it keeps getting out of their

01:45:53.840 grass it keeps getting out of their grass it just you know they got pre-approved for this then the

01:45:58.760 market moved again they got pre-approved for this the market moved again they can't buy in while

01:46:03.840 everybody else who's already inside of the game is just it's not ham over fist money I'm not saying

01:46:10.320 like middle class people with a house or two or three even are necessarily making all the cash

01:46:16.500 in the world it costs a lot to run a house costs a lot for maintenance renters can often be I'm a

01:46:22.200 tenant I mean being a tenant is you know you have to treat places with respect but a lot of us don't

01:46:27.920 I admit that, but, but ultimately the inflationary number as well as not having the available

01:46:33.980 houses besides everybody else picking up the fixer up or turning it into a rental.

01:46:38.240 So it doesn't become your first home that you fixed up and became your sink for equity.

01:46:43.260 It became somebody else's and it wasn't their first home.

01:46:46.120 It was their second and third.

01:46:47.960 And you got to sit there and go to yourself.

01:46:49.760 Is that fair?

01:46:52.060 Is that fair?

01:46:53.080 is it fair that even amongst the same class of people there's there's a bitter war going on for

01:47:00.640 even the smallest amount of space and they'll and they'll snap it up because even if it wasn't your

01:47:05.360 price range they can outbid you so nothing's there's no there's no ceiling to the price range

01:47:09.880 so this was a fixer-upper it didn't deserve another 30 40 50k in a bidding war it didn't

01:47:16.720 deserve that but that's what happens so it is what it is and it and i mean i would argue that

01:47:29.160 ultimately it's an it's an ethical question because you can talk about regulations around

01:47:34.140 those things all you want but ultimately the only thing that's going to fix this problem is people

01:47:37.360 being like no you know what i don't need three houses i want other people to have houses too

01:47:41.520 I don't need three houses

01:47:43.420 because you don't, nobody does

01:47:45.500 you get a vacation

01:47:47.620 property, you have your house

01:47:49.240 houses aren't for flipping, we all know that

01:47:51.120 houses are for living in

01:47:52.200 and you just live in them

01:47:54.860 you have your kids in them

01:47:56.420 you need to sell it because it's time for a bigger house

01:47:59.160 because you had more kids, good for it

01:48:00.960 you know

01:48:01.260 that's

01:48:02.820 what it is

01:48:05.160 and I mean it is about justice

01:48:07.660 Chris Marachuk made the point

01:48:09.200 he's got a point here

01:48:10.900 as if I'm as if I'm a socialist a socialist I'm a I'm a Chester Tonian if I'm anything

01:48:17.860 but you sound so anti-capitalism more socialist based on what government allows goes against the

01:48:22.700 freedom against what it's fair no I just believe in a strong moral character capitalism works when

01:48:28.300 you have strong moral characters and when people have a societal and cultural expectations that

01:48:33.440 are reasonable like freestanding homes being there for as many people as possible that's how

01:48:40.040 that's it very easy very simple if you want things to go better then you have to treat people better

01:48:47.240 you want your workers to work harder you should probably pay them well you know don't pay them

01:48:51.220 slave wages don't pay them poverty wages what a waste of time right you're just abusing them and

01:48:55.440 you're abusing yourself because you're just going to have high turnover right you know you can't

01:48:59.280 take it with you right you can't take your money with you right and you'll be in judgment before

01:49:03.600 the same god i am and that's it so the point is that you know and i don't i don't think that

01:49:11.040 and i you know again and there's shelly kind of pointing out that maybe i was i contradicted

01:49:16.040 myself at no point at no point do i think that the government needs to bring in some kind of i

01:49:20.580 don't know mortgage cooling system um everyone does buys works etc i would say it's far more

01:49:26.660 that it's the interest rates we have to up the interest rates absolutely we do so that we can

01:49:32.800 either calm things down you know we need to calm calm things down we need things to cool we need

01:49:41.680 things to be more reasonable we need investments to be more sure we need to encourage saving

01:49:45.440 which is another thing low interest rates have failed to do and you need we need to create a

01:49:53.640 more stable system because that's the only thing we're doing like we are adding to the system and

01:49:57.600 so everybody can say well I'm just doing it because this is how this works it's like yes

01:50:01.280 But our participation, basically, actually, I guess it's funny because it's funny how things fall on this. There was a good meme the other day about this. Neo, neo conservative Christians went to went to, you know, men want to, you know, when two men want to get married, all of them are really upset. It's like neo liberal, neo conservative Christians, when somebody wants to charge somebody interest on a loan, they're all like, yay. Yeah, let's all remember what our values actually are, right? Usury was outlawed by the church until the Reformation.

01:50:31.280 and usury should be outlawed, probably. But even if it wasn't to be outlawed, maybe usury should

01:50:37.640 be, which is to say charging interest, should honestly be something intelligently developed,

01:50:44.060 right? Like maybe we should think about that. Maybe we should think about what might happen

01:50:49.220 if you create way too much cheap money. Oh, wait, we're there. How's that going for us?

01:50:55.000 How come everybody's complaining about the debt that the government's running up and they're not

01:50:58.440 complaining about the debt we have on our mortgages and our clients of credit how come

01:51:02.480 everybody's talking about the conformity with masks and everything else like that or like it

01:51:07.840 should be up to me it should be up to my choice right and then I'm arguing the exact same thing

01:51:12.160 about well you should make the right choice when it comes to property and to making sure that

01:51:16.340 everybody is you know that homesteader mentality everyone has a freestanding home everybody

01:51:20.940 everybody has a sense of stake in the country somehow that's socialist it's socialist to say

01:51:25.640 that maybe families should have a family home

01:51:29.560 regardless of their class,

01:51:31.920 regardless of how much money they make.

01:51:33.280 There should be something that's accessible

01:51:34.860 and affordable for them.

01:51:36.340 They shouldn't just be paying somebody else's mortgage.

01:51:38.580 They shouldn't just be putting somebody else's

01:51:40.320 retirement savings away.

01:51:42.000 Houses are not for flipping.

01:51:44.220 They're not for flipping.

01:51:46.340 They're not your cash cows. 0.96

01:51:48.440 Houses are for living in.

01:51:51.180 And we should treat real estate

01:51:53.580 with a lot more respect

01:51:55.520 it's about living in

01:51:58.040 it's about making sure people have a place to call their own

01:52:00.760 and we need to facilitate that

01:52:03.460 yes by the free market

01:52:04.520 by the free market

01:52:07.200 but there are tools in the free market

01:52:10.400 that we are no longer using

01:52:11.780 and there are subsidies which break the free market

01:52:14.820 that are being advocated for

01:52:16.520 by the exact same kind of right wing people

01:52:19.280 that are giving me guff in these comments right now

01:52:21.600 so don't be coming at me

01:52:24.100 I'm against the corn subsidy too

01:52:26.300 I'm so true to the free market

01:52:29.000 I got problems with the dairy lobby

01:52:30.840 anybody else going to put their hand up for that one

01:52:32.920 as a conservative

01:52:34.460 conservatives drool

01:52:37.100 all over the dairy lobby

01:52:38.180 I believe in a

01:52:43.120 kingdom of conscience

01:52:43.840 and being a human being

01:52:47.220 at this point

01:52:47.820 is basically against the law

01:52:51.140 cost too much to live apart so people get together they don't bother getting married

01:52:57.340 and they live together because it's more cost effective to do that cost too much to have

01:53:02.880 children so instead of just having instead of just following god's plan on that and i mean

01:53:08.720 god gave us a very biological clock when it comes to female fertility um no can't follow that

01:53:15.820 have to take drugs that are made by big pharmaceutical companies that make a lot of 1.00

01:53:20.340 money that cause blood clots, lots of complications. People do die from them. It happens all the time.

01:53:25.320 We just don't get to hear about it. And other objects as well, all sorts of foreign objects

01:53:29.560 inside of all sorts of places they shouldn't be in order to afford life. Because that's what

01:53:35.100 life's about, right? It's about taking drugs so you don't have kids, making a perfectly functional

01:53:39.200 biological system unfunctional so that you can afford to live in this universe. Because that's

01:53:45.400 what life's about, right? Yeah, I don't have a lot of time for these arguments at all.

01:53:54.340 This is an inhuman civilization. It has become craven and it's become desperate and we can do

01:54:03.120 better, but it requires solidarity between all of us. It requires all of us to back each other up

01:54:09.220 and be honest with the fact that no matter where you come back, no matter where you come from,

01:54:15.180 No matter your race, class, creed, or, you know, honestly, your orientation, you have certain rights as a human being as a child of God.

01:54:25.500 And we need to build a civilization that appreciates that.

01:54:30.260 So how do we do that?

01:54:31.760 Well, every one of us has to stand up with moral character.

01:54:34.880 That doesn't mean I'm not a sinner.

01:54:36.200 Let me tell you, I'm a sinner.

01:54:37.460 Tell my priest every week I'm a sinner.

01:54:40.120 I won't go into those details now or here.

01:54:43.060 But I'm a sinner.

01:54:43.920 We're all sinners.

01:54:44.740 but we we have to build a better world and I think it's just little steps it is little steps like

01:54:52.420 no a starter home shouldn't be outbid for somebody no I'm not going to force people to wear masks

01:55:00.960 no I'm not going to socially distance and wear a mask while I'm taking pictures with my fiance

01:55:05.480 no I don't want to have to take pharmaceuticals so I don't have a family because I can't afford

01:55:13.920 of family. We can build a better world. We can. We absolutely can. And it requires strong moral

01:55:24.580 character and requires solidarity with one another and treating one another with respect.

01:55:28.360 I think that can be done. I think that can be done. And I think that the people who are listening

01:55:35.440 here today know that not everything I've said has been kind of perfectly clear. And I need to

01:55:39.180 clarify more maybe around questions of uh you know what exactly i would do with the housing

01:55:46.040 market in order to fix it and whatever but that's that's another topic for another time

01:55:51.840 where we're at today is we're kind of in the last minute here

01:55:56.460 um we didn't have any guests today that was my first long uh rant for uh for a while oh

01:56:05.160 Chris managed to sneak his way in there at the very end there, build back better.

01:56:11.920 I think the joke, of course, is that if I do have one last thing to say on this count is that actually I will fully confess to everybody here who's still watching and to anybody who bothers watching later that I did advocate for building back better when COVID first happened.

01:56:27.320 I said that this was a chance for a revolution.

01:56:30.120 It was a chance for things to go different.

01:56:32.940 It was a chance for police to not stop me on the road and for non-conforming structures

01:56:38.780 to be built on farms and maybe for us to discuss a more equitable arrangement when it came

01:56:43.520 to, I don't know, universal basic income, social credit, the entitlements we have being

01:56:47.240 all rolled into one sort of thing.

01:56:49.440 But I said that we could build a better world.

01:56:53.400 And this is the other thesis I've been trotting out.

01:56:55.720 I've been trotting out that there's a theocracy involved now.

01:56:58.540 We live in a technocratic theocracy.

01:57:00.560 I've trotted out that, you know, that life itself is becoming criminal.

01:57:07.120 I've talked about a few different themes in here, you know,

01:57:09.620 the difference between gun ownership and other things.

01:57:11.880 And one of the places that is really important to kind of put out there is

01:57:16.040 that you know what's wrong with the 21st century is every single time

01:57:20.220 something bad happens that something good would have normally come out of

01:57:23.440 later, it gets worse.

01:57:25.720 the dot-com crisis didn't help anything 2001 the september 11th uh the september 11th the tax

01:57:34.140 didn't help anything 2008 the big crash the euro crisis the oil crash and now covid every other

01:57:41.700 disaster in history has supposed it's supposed to make for a better world in the sense that

01:57:48.640 it flips the tables and people on the bottom suddenly find themselves on top and people

01:57:53.240 are on the top suddenly find themselves on the bottom and it flips the tables it just turns

01:57:59.180 things around and it doesn't turn around perfectly for everyone but it's a real instance where things

01:58:03.920 can can just change and get better you know uh and it's not that is that is the great evil of

01:58:12.660 the 21st century every single time something goes bad the powerful get more powerful and the weak

01:58:16.780 get weaker that's the great evil of the 21st century all those moments where something could

01:58:22.620 have flipped and changed and inspired and made for a better world. And those progresses that

01:58:29.400 were made in the past that led to higher wages and 40-hour work weeks and people actually having

01:58:34.600 time with their families. We're not stuffing children in chimneys anymore. Nobody wants

01:58:37.800 children in chimneys. There's no right-wing capitalist person listening to this show or

01:58:41.540 anywhere else on earth who thinks that we should be putting children in chimneys. Nobody wants that

01:58:45.860 anymore. That's wrong. We know that. But every single moment, every single moment in the 21st

01:58:54.800 century that could have been a chance to change, right? It's a way to change, right? It's a way to

01:59:06.800 change. And it's a way to change for the better. And it doesn't happen. And it doesn't happen

01:59:14.040 because the powerful refuse to have their

01:59:17.900 consciences convicted, and the weak aren't organized, and everybody in between

01:59:21.720 just kind of gets what's theirs and goes.

01:59:25.780 We won't put up our final comment here.

01:59:30.600 Not that I really believe in investments anyways.

01:59:38.560 Well, I'm not saying giving.

01:59:43.140 i'm saying leaving uh read your bible right you leave the the grain that falls in the

01:59:49.620 in the field you leave it for the least of these you don't pick up every single grain you leave

01:59:55.260 behind what falls naturally but uh no i i think that ultimately ultimately you know it's one thing

02:00:04.780 to to have a rental property if you're looking for some kind of justification there it's one

02:00:08.640 thing to have an airbnb that's clearly an airbnb space it's another thing to take up what's clearly

02:00:12.660 a starter home and turn it into a rental property and to be that kind of selfish bastard who won't

02:00:18.480 let there be any starter homes on the market uh only homes that you would need to move into once

02:00:23.020 you had some equity and stuff but no starter homes just no starters they just all bought out

02:00:27.480 and renovated and turned it to little little rental incomes for people so they can be rentier

02:00:32.780 based not have i mean because you could develop a real economy right or you could just be a

02:00:39.020 Yeah, rentierism. Rentierism isn't a real

02:00:42.280 economy. We all know that. That was something that was discussed

02:00:44.420 a long time ago. But we'll

02:00:46.360 leave that discussion for another time.

02:00:48.820 This has been Mountain Standard

02:00:50.340 Time. Sorry to end on kind of a downer note,

02:00:52.740 but I do believe

02:00:54.040 that we can make a better world if

02:00:56.280 we come together, if we act in solidarity,

02:00:58.480 if we have strong moral character.

02:01:00.240 Very thankful for everyone watching.

02:01:02.380 We're going to be back on tomorrow, 9am

02:01:04.600 Pacific, 10am Mountain.

02:01:06.800 And of course,

02:01:08.000 we're going to be rounding out the week with a few different

02:01:10.000 points. Maybe we'll visit the question of Victoria Day

02:01:12.060 itself and the Queen's

02:01:14.260 birthday. We'll tell

02:01:16.040 you who's coming down the pipe tomorrow

02:01:17.680 when we get that person figured out.

02:01:20.040 So thank you so much for watching and have

02:01:21.980 a great day. This was

02:01:23.940 Mountain Standard Time. I'm your host, Nathan Gita.

02:01:26.020 Thank you.

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