Western Standard - No budget for you!

00:00:00.000 Good day, today is June 4th, 2025.

00:00:30.000 I'm Derek Hildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:34.800 I'm joined by two-thirds of our usual lineup, Western Standard Opinion Editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:41.780 Nice to be here, Derek.

00:00:43.500 Nice to have you here.

00:00:44.940 And Western Standard Senior Alberta Colonist, Corey Morgan.

00:00:49.100 Good to be here. I won't rip the glasses off. I'm blind as hell.

00:00:51.460 Not as dramatic, eh?

00:00:52.700 Nah.

00:00:53.280 No?

00:00:54.960 Unfortunately, we don't have Erica with us today, but hopefully we'll get her next week.

00:01:00.000 Well, is it time for elbows to be back-up?

00:01:06.200 We all know that during the campaign,

00:01:10.340 Liberal leader, now Prime Minister Mark Carney,

00:01:12.960 secretly ordered the removal of the Liberal tariffs.

00:01:18.100 But now talking, putting them back on as Trump re-engages in steel and aluminum tariffs.

00:01:26.640 Today's actually kind of, it's really just the Carney show today.

00:01:29.480 It's the Carnival.

00:01:32.420 Carnie met with the premiers and the big First Ministers' meeting.

00:01:36.280 We don't really have First Ministers' meetings too often anymore.

00:01:39.640 But Carnie met with the premiers.

00:01:41.640 There was lots of hand-holding and kumbaya-ing about national unity,

00:01:49.080 working together, all in this together,

00:01:51.320 and doing some, not many things, but a few things on Alberta's to-do list.

00:01:56.520 And that was very quickly shot right in the side of the head by BC NDP Premier David Eby.

00:02:04.680 And no budget for you. That's where we're going to start today.

00:02:10.440 For the... Canada has a budget essentially every year.

00:02:16.760 Even tin-pot dictatorships in the third world, their budgets aren't very credible, but they have budgets.

00:02:24.340 Although for the last decade, Canada's budgets have been lacking a severe degree of credibility.

00:02:28.880 We haven't actually stuck to a budget for more than a few months at any time in the last decade.

00:02:34.360 But they were at least an authorization of Parliament to generally spend a certain amount of money in a generally determined area with at least a fake aspirational deficit target.

00:02:48.120 We don't even have that.

00:02:49.700 In the good old days, it wasn't the deficit target.

00:02:52.280 we plan to break even or even run a surplus that's what that's how much things have become

00:02:59.000 degraded that we now talk about having a credible deficit target which you never even do now a

00:03:04.120 budget yeah so that's just well they they went from uh deficits to almost balancing the budget

00:03:11.400 to just a small little deficit the budget will balance itself to uh you know i i suppose in

00:03:18.760 in hindsight, Trudeau's budgetable balance

00:03:20.880 itself was better than Carney's

00:03:22.800 just no budget.

00:03:24.440 And an election promised to

00:03:26.780 borrow another quarter

00:03:28.760 of a trillion dollars over four years,

00:03:31.000 which he hasn't had much to say about

00:03:32.740 since the election.

00:03:35.500 I wonder when that particular

00:03:36.880 shoe is going to drop. When we get a budget

00:03:38.840 next year. Well, we'll see.

00:03:40.780 But we've got to wait a year to next spring.

00:03:43.220 So why don't you tee it up?

00:03:44.620 Frank says no budget. Parliament

00:03:46.740 has something to say about that.

00:03:47.900 uh currently saying we don't need a budget why don't you just kind of so look i mean

00:03:51.220 the tabling of a budget is very fundamental to what democracy is all about we elect people to

00:03:58.840 govern us governing means taxing us spending our money so it's very very basic that the government

00:04:05.640 owes us an account of what they plan to do with our money we forget it's our money but it that

00:04:12.140 that is the truth of the matter so we've had a budget every year since i think there was one

00:04:18.140 we dropped sometime in the 1920s for some reason but even during the second world 32 or something

00:04:24.060 like that sorry about 20s or 30s the last time yeah even during the second world war even during

00:04:28.940 the first world war you know governments were tabling budgets they were and what they were

00:04:34.060 doing they were actually being responsible to the taxpayers the people who had voted for them

00:04:39.740 say this is we understand that it is your money this is how we're handling it and we owe you that

00:04:46.460 well this year that understanding is off now there's a couple of ways you can think of what

00:04:53.980 what uh finance minister champagne um did say that it was that um we should consider the

00:05:02.460 government's election platform or budget most of the government's spending priorities were laid

00:05:09.500 out in their platform he said that is a very novel way to describe a budget i absolutely

00:05:18.380 amazing so you know i have a theory that the books after 10 years of mr trudeau were just so bad

00:05:29.180 that they need a year to put things in order or at least paint a picture that won't actually lead to

00:05:37.340 the peasants marching on Parliament Hill with pitchforks and fire torches and that something

00:05:44.780 is clearly very very wrong they promised a fall update well okay four or five months we'll see

00:05:50.380 what they have but this is a shocking and really bad situation that in peacetime you can't produce

00:05:58.780 a budget. Corey I've been trying to you know as bad as they might be I tried to at least

00:06:07.340 understand what is the most charitable view of why someone i disagree with on a lot of issues

00:06:14.220 does something and one it's proud to think of was well we just had an election that has

00:06:19.340 been a lot of time well that doesn't really hold um i remember uh you know when i was in politics

00:06:25.260 the first budget i uh to deal with as the finance critic of the wild rose opposition

00:06:30.060 was in 2015 the spring of 2015 um you remember uh the premier at the time jim prentice tabled

00:06:36.620 a budget, a politically

00:06:38.720 suicidal budget,

00:06:40.760 and then used that budget as

00:06:44.620 his election platform,

00:06:46.640 called the election before passing the budget.

00:06:49.260 We all know what happened

00:06:50.600 to that government. They were gone, the NDP came

00:06:52.700 to power, and the government

00:06:54.820 pretty urgently needed a budget.

00:06:57.220 The NDP actually passed

00:06:58.760 the budget. Now, what they did is they took

00:07:00.320 Prentice's budget, more or less kept intact, because it was

00:07:02.700 a pretty socialist budget to begin with,

00:07:04.580 and then they just changed a few things here and there

00:07:06.500 they took some of Prentice's tax increases and

00:07:08.400 increased them more

00:07:09.440 they took some of this mild spending

00:07:12.240 restraint and got rid of that

00:07:13.720 but they did it and they did it

00:07:16.660 right after coming to power

00:07:18.300 it was like a mini two week session

00:07:20.600 of legislature and they passed the budget

00:07:22.380 they got it done

00:07:23.680 to their credit it was a terrible budget

00:07:26.000 at least they had a bloody budget

00:07:28.220 and that was

00:07:30.440 with the party in power changing

00:07:32.520 from progressive conservative to NDP

00:07:33.880 the liberals have been in power for a

00:07:36.500 decade it's the staffers in those offices are literally in the same jobs very few many in the

00:07:42.580 cabinet half the cabinet at least is the same people there's been no great transference of

00:07:47.940 power literally one guy changed and that was about it i'm trying to understand what reason

00:07:55.460 they would have here that is at least somewhat charitable and makes sense yeah i think the only

00:08:01.620 reasons we can see are political it sounds like they might capitulate and have a fall one but

00:08:05.620 but we'll see. But they're doing it like pulling teeth with this and they'd prefer a fall update.

00:08:12.000 But I mean, it sounds like I'm sure we speculated earlier, what's in there is so horrific. They

00:08:17.300 don't want parliament dealing with people now because that's what's happened is it'll be under

00:08:21.360 scrutiny. People will look at the line items. They'll look at the numbers and realize just

00:08:27.080 how horrific it is. They want to take as many months as possible to sugarcoat this, to change

00:08:32.740 the names of things to possibly maybe

00:08:34.640 get some spending in order

00:08:36.040 and it's too tall an order, they feel, to get

00:08:38.740 it done by

00:08:39.540 a reasonable time. The other part is

00:08:42.720 I mean, I'm looking at, I don't think it's

00:08:44.600 going to happen, but the NDP are saying they're not going to vote

00:08:46.520 for the throne speech now. And

00:08:48.620 they're going to have to cut some sort of deal

00:08:50.580 with the bloc or the conservatives or they might end up

00:08:52.620 in an election even before then. They don't want to face

00:08:54.500 any confidence votes before they

00:08:56.500 have to. I don't think any of the parties are eager

00:08:58.460 to go back to the polls right now.

00:09:00.460 I suspect they're not going to fall on the

00:09:02.520 throne speech, but maybe

00:09:04.380 a catastrophic three weeks of budget discussions

00:09:06.500 might lead to a vote they don't

00:09:08.540 want to deal with. I don't know about that, because

00:09:10.860 there's still going to be a

00:09:12.540 confidence vote, because they're doing a supply measure.

00:09:15.120 Essentially, Parliament is going...

00:09:16.460 Money bills are still a confidence vote.

00:09:17.820 Yeah, so there's not going to be a big budget,

00:09:20.160 you know, a couple hundred pages between all the different

00:09:22.480 booklets they hand out and the lockup,

00:09:24.700 but there's going to be

00:09:26.420 something smaller, which is just essentially

00:09:28.320 an authorization to spend money,

00:09:29.920 just no plan about how it's being spent

00:09:32.520 departmental targets

00:09:34.520 and that, but it's

00:09:36.360 essentially just an authorization from Parliament

00:09:38.300 to the government

00:09:39.720 to spend money

00:09:41.860 and there's still going to be a vote on it that

00:09:43.840 is confidence

00:09:45.080 seems more likely to me they probably would have an easier time passing

00:09:48.260 a budget than just the supply bill

00:09:50.160 I don't know

00:09:51.960 I mean there's a lot of discussion in it, but you're going to discuss a whole

00:09:54.320 lot of things, a supply bill you can kind of ram

00:09:56.260 in and out fast

00:09:57.060 I mean, the Tupus coined about his vote on a budget. 0.94

00:09:59.840 On Monday, there was a vote calling on the government to impose a budget.

00:10:06.720 That, unfortunately, is not a binding vote.

00:10:09.260 It's just one of those, you know.

00:10:10.300 Bernie kept on saying, well, we've taken note, because it affected take note motion.

00:10:14.620 We want you to, but you don't have to.

00:10:17.280 I mean, they lost that because four Liberal MPs didn't show up.

00:10:22.420 They're debating it again this afternoon.

00:10:24.360 I'm pretty sure everybody will be there for the vote on that one.

00:10:28.540 But, you know, as to your point, though, about the continuity of government,

00:10:33.780 the bureaucrats who prepare budgets never take vacations, so to speak.

00:10:41.340 Like, as soon as one budget is passed, the next one is in preparation.

00:10:46.700 So in the Department of Finance, there is a document.

00:10:50.380 Yeah.

00:10:50.700 What do you plan to have one under Trudeau?

00:10:52.580 These things start right after, as you said.

00:10:55.300 There is a draft budget sitting there.

00:10:56.880 Like, it's an endless process.

00:10:58.600 And there is a process of budget consultation that takes place during the fall.

00:11:03.360 And in the fullness of time, we'll probably see that.

00:11:05.820 But there was one last fall.

00:11:08.260 And so on the basis of how the budget is prepared, they just don't have, they just don't believe in what they've got there.

00:11:15.120 So something is seriously wrong.

00:11:16.680 i'm trying to think of a charitable a charitable explanation and i just i just don't get it

00:11:26.220 because it was obvious they said oh we don't need one this is the banker i mean if any

00:11:29.820 masterful brilliant mind should be able to put a budget together in short order i would have

00:11:34.180 thought it was the brilliant uh mark carney oh it but i'm also what's the politics of it i mean

00:11:42.760 So if we eliminate any possible charitable outcome, because the NDP pulled it off weeks after coming to power in 2015 in Alberta.

00:11:52.060 And that was an entirely new government.

00:11:54.200 It wasn't just a change in the governing party.

00:11:56.940 Remember, the NDP had a party of four seats in the Alberta legislature and went up to a majority government.

00:12:01.760 Most of them didn't know where the bathroom was.

00:12:03.380 The liberals have been trained, though, to rag the puck on touchy issues, difficult issues, and the voters reward them.

00:12:10.100 they they put off the foreign interference scandal for two and a half years and guess what

00:12:14.240 canadians just got sick of it and said okay fine keep interfering just uh quit uh quit bugging me

00:12:19.140 with this talk um okay well that looks the next question is there a political price to pay for

00:12:25.160 this i mean they're getting some bad headlines it's it's been universally panned even in the

00:12:30.140 legacy liberal friendly media it's like it's a pretty shocking thing for you know media been

00:12:37.340 sitting around, they're used to going to the lock-up, but it's

00:12:39.540 just literally been done as long as

00:12:41.300 every single journalist in Canada who's alive

00:12:43.560 today has been alive.

00:12:45.740 We have budgets.

00:12:47.340 No matter what the

00:12:49.340 ideological strength of the government, it's just something we do.

00:12:52.120 So, they're taking some 0.98

00:12:53.460 crap from the media on 0.98

00:12:55.360 this, but at the end of the day, 0.99

00:12:57.320 is this something voters are

00:12:59.320 actually, we genuinely

00:13:01.700 upset about?

00:13:03.680 You know, it has been so

00:13:05.220 long since

00:13:06.340 civics has been taught

00:13:08.480 as a lesson in democracy

00:13:11.160 and kids in school

00:13:13.220 starting there

00:13:14.280 are told that in a representative

00:13:16.720 form of government that we have

00:13:18.600 that guy with the word MP

00:13:21.060 after his name

00:13:22.200 actually works for you

00:13:23.760 and you need to

00:13:26.460 give these people instructions

00:13:28.040 and demand accountability

00:13:29.440 you're giving the government

00:13:31.300 your money

00:13:32.780 you need to know

00:13:34.740 what's being done with it

00:13:36.340 That's not taught.

00:13:37.620 So people just get bored with anything like that.

00:13:41.260 That's been the case for a long time.

00:13:42.980 And in all parties.

00:13:44.040 I mean, conservative backbench MPs have just as little power.

00:13:47.780 Oh, no, not technically.

00:13:48.580 They actually have the Reform Act.

00:13:50.440 They have nearly as nothing power as a liberal backbench MP.

00:13:56.920 I think it's been ingrained in our system that parliament is for show anyway.

00:14:01.740 Governments spend money routinely without the authorization of parliament.

00:14:04.860 something we used to cut off the heads of kings over.

00:14:08.000 There have been literal civil wars fought in England over the issue.

00:14:11.620 And we now routinely do it where Parliament spends money illegally without,

00:14:17.520 where government spends money routinely without the authorization of Parliament

00:14:20.780 or provincial legislatures.

00:14:22.820 I'm not sure people just care about this anymore.

00:14:25.160 Well, that's my point.

00:14:27.000 I mean, 250 years ago, just south of the border,

00:14:29.920 they were saying no taxation without representation.

00:14:32.200 and everybody understood what they meant

00:14:34.320 and everybody cared about it and everybody was mad

00:14:36.420 about it. Now the government has just

00:14:38.400 looked on as being a source

00:14:40.440 of funds

00:14:41.880 under different programs.

00:14:45.240 People don't seem

00:14:46.620 to, I don't know, maybe we're

00:14:48.420 wasting our breath here, but

00:14:49.500 it's a frightening thing when

00:14:52.300 people don't understand that this

00:14:54.340 is their money.

00:14:56.060 We're not being accounted for.

00:14:58.240 And as you said, they've become so aspirational.

00:15:00.140 They're just a show.

00:15:00.960 People come and expect that they don't mean anything.

00:15:02.920 I mean, the regular routine with Finance Minister Freeland was for her to come out every few months and expand the projected deficit.

00:15:10.340 I mean, the budget would just be blown every quarter, even beyond what they'd said to start with.

00:15:15.440 And Canadians have shrugged.

00:15:17.220 It's not until they hit them in their own pocketbook.

00:15:19.200 That's the reality with people when they start.

00:15:21.900 You're not blaming the opposition.

00:15:23.220 I mean, I hear them out there.

00:15:24.760 They're standing on the right things, but it's not getting reported.

00:15:26.920 Taylor Swift is the bigger story.

00:15:28.440 You know, that's where people's hits are.

00:15:30.760 I mean, the thing that hit balanced budgets in the 90s wasn't just how badly governments had mismanaged through the 80s and put us in that position.

00:15:37.680 It was the double-digit interest rates, where people were suddenly realizing, it's going to hit me.

00:15:43.700 And I don't think your average citizen is realizing that as our currency gets devalued, it's going to hit you.

00:15:50.320 But they don't care right now.

00:15:53.060 I think it's a catastrophic failure for parliamentary government.

00:15:56.360 but I

00:15:57.720 don't think the liberals are going to lose a vote over it.

00:16:00.060 I mean, if there are voters who care about it,

00:16:02.680 they tend to be conservative voters.

00:16:04.560 They're not people in the liberal voter universe.

00:16:07.820 I mean,

00:16:08.080 moderate liberals tended actually to vote conservative

00:16:10.240 in the last election. Conservatives had an extremely good

00:16:12.260 election by vote count. The liberals

00:16:14.200 picked up those votes from the NDP.

00:16:16.000 So my feeling is just

00:16:17.700 those who do care,

00:16:20.560 which I think are a minority, 0.94

00:16:22.020 they're already voting conservative.

00:16:23.240 I just don't think people in the liberal voter pool

00:16:26.360 really care you know and the other thing is we've had so many recent arrivals in this country

00:16:30.920 probably 10 million over the last 15 years they're not raised in the western tradition they're they

00:16:37.760 don't understand the principles of democracy so they're the last people who are going to be

00:16:43.820 caring about it it's no what we need somehow to teach the fundamental principles of our system

00:16:54.200 of government again we need a new you know organization to take that up and make it their 0.63

00:17:00.120 own and just get people to the stage where they're ready to march on ottawa when these things happen

00:17:05.720 it's a shocking situation last time people marched on ottawa they uh declared martial law yep sir

00:17:12.760 this would be another good occasion yeah okay well uh i mean it's just today's all carny all day

00:17:19.960 let's talk about the first ministers meeting so first ministers meeting uh there's two kinds of

00:17:27.560 big meetings there's the council of the federation as it calls itself which is the meeting of just

00:17:33.600 the premiers and then there's the first ministers meeting which is the premiers plus the prime

00:17:39.060 minister uh those are exceedingly rare in canada now for political reasons i understand because

00:17:47.320 the premiers pretty much always

00:17:50.160 get together and gang up

00:17:52.240 on the Prime Minister. Harper, I think,

00:17:54.200 had one early on in his prime ministership, and he

00:17:56.180 was like, well, that wasn't very fun.

00:17:57.620 I'll meet with these guys one-on-one,

00:18:00.240 but I'm not meeting with them as a group where they can all

00:18:01.900 get together and, you know,

00:18:04.500 dogpile me. I'm not doing that.

00:18:06.780 Trudeau, similarly, I think, very early

00:18:08.280 in his premiership, prime ministership,

00:18:10.560 and then he stopped.

00:18:13.040 But there

00:18:14.360 was, so we're at the point where Cardi

00:18:16.280 is having his early meetings and then

00:18:18.440 he will stop like everyone

00:18:20.400 else does.

00:18:22.600 But yeah, they met

00:18:24.220 was it this week

00:18:26.300 just Monday, Monday, Monday,

00:18:28.460 one Monday. There was lots

00:18:30.480 of handholding. Corey

00:18:31.980 kind of just set up what happened

00:18:34.360 at this first minister's meeting.

00:18:36.720 Carney's last one. Well, speaking

00:18:38.340 of a gathering of

00:18:40.180 bloviating budget blowers,

00:18:41.980 provincial management of money hasn't been much better.

00:18:44.200 but uh yeah they gathered in saskatoon and and it was i mean as you said you framed it well

00:18:50.040 justin trudeau didn't care for them uh prime minister harper didn't care for them i mean each

00:18:53.940 is just gonna they're gonna come with their demands and their hands out and we got some

00:18:56.820 some strong demands they they've come out of this though with a lot of you know sunshine and

00:19:01.540 happiness uh premier doug ford said this is the best one he's been to in seven years and probably

00:19:07.140 the best one held in 10 years so did he call it was he the one who called it a lovin uh he made

00:19:12.900 I think he called it a love-in for Carney.

00:19:14.620 Oh, no, he said Carney came like Santa Claus.

00:19:17.080 Well, oh, that's right.

00:19:17.900 He called it like Santa Claus.

00:19:19.140 And, you know, Ford's showing all of the love.

00:19:21.280 I mean, he's just a gushing Carney groupie to the core.

00:19:24.360 He did a lot to help elect him.

00:19:25.660 Yes, absolutely.

00:19:27.220 So that's what's come out of it.

00:19:28.240 You know, it's political brinkmanship.

00:19:29.380 It always is.

00:19:29.880 You don't really ink anything solid.

00:19:32.100 But there was one premier who didn't make it to this meeting,

00:19:35.240 and that was David Eby.

00:19:38.060 And he kind of rained on their hand-holding parade afterwards

00:19:41.860 because when they were talking about we're going to get infrastructure from coast to coast and we

00:19:45.540 we're going to fast track it and we're moving along and Nibi's basically come up and said well no

00:19:49.140 I'm not participating uh there's no pipes coming into my province and uh so you guys might as well

00:19:54.500 just get stuffed uh it it leaves it where I think where Carney was hoping uh he's got the authority

00:20:03.140 I mean people gotta understand in Canada and the federation the reality is inter-provincial

00:20:06.660 infrastructure is a federal jurisdiction provinces have a say in it and they can certainly do a lot

00:20:11.220 a lot of things to hinder it. But in the end, if we're a federation, it means that these things

00:20:15.880 cannot be stopped by provinces. They can't stop a railway, they can't stop a highway,

00:20:19.960 and they theoretically shouldn't be able to stop a pipeline. Carney's best hope would be able to

00:20:24.540 get all 10 into a room and convince them that it is in the national importance and they can all do

00:20:28.120 it cooperatively and all together on it. Obviously, there's already one holdout. Quebec probably won't

00:20:34.120 be much better. So Carney's got two options for him now. He's either going to lay down the hammer

00:20:38.400 and say well it's going to get done either way

00:20:39.800 or he's just going to say we won't have the consensus

00:20:42.160 that I was hoping to get we'll just leave it

00:20:44.300 and go pipeline for the rest of my term

00:20:46.380 we'll see what happens

00:20:47.920 it's

00:20:50.020 I mean Carney has

00:20:52.240 I am impressed

00:20:54.260 for a guy who is

00:20:56.300 new to elected politics

00:20:57.840 he's been very close to politics

00:20:59.820 most of his career but for a guy

00:21:02.320 who's new to elected politics being

00:21:04.240 the politician

00:21:05.120 he is extremely good

00:21:08.140 at saying things that please

00:21:09.840 both sides of something

00:21:11.860 or at least don't overtly anger

00:21:14.340 both sides and

00:21:16.060 it's a skill

00:21:18.180 I woefully lack

00:21:20.300 much

00:21:20.740 to my lack of benefit

00:21:24.560 he

00:21:25.880 he's speaking

00:21:28.540 in a way that's not overly inciting

00:21:30.200 pipeline opponents, opponents of oil

00:21:32.400 and gas

00:21:33.020 but he's saying it in a way

00:21:36.560 that's got people in Alberta, I think,

00:21:39.960 at least a good number of them saying,

00:21:42.400 huh, well, that doesn't sound unreasonable.

00:21:45.960 Well, let's see.

00:21:49.120 He says, like, we're going to build,

00:21:51.100 we're going to have, build, do nation building again,

00:21:54.940 major infrastructure products,

00:21:57.000 we're going to be an energy superpower,

00:21:59.060 and these projects are going to go forward

00:22:01.480 where there is a national consensus.

00:22:03.480 well national consent i i know you know not everything needs to be spelled out in detailed

00:22:09.280 uh form footnotes on all but national consensus is that the poison pill word because what does

00:22:18.040 that mean is national consensus the new buzzword for social license yes well i mean if you actually

00:22:24.740 look at the statement that the prime minister's office released after the meetings you'll see

00:22:31.320 the conditions that follow after this bold statement of what we're going to do and it has

00:22:38.760 to be in the national interest it has to promote canada's autonomy it must be acceptable to

00:22:43.240 indigenous people that it go there are five six main points to it and frankly any one of them

00:22:53.160 could if the political will is not there be used to tick the entire apple cart over

00:23:01.320 uh so he has he has gone out and explicitly said that all of these good things will happen

00:23:12.520 but they are dependent upon in the first case indigenous agreement well right now you have put

00:23:23.320 the price of all of this up because if you tell somebody well we want to do this but it you get

00:23:29.080 a veto but you get a veto like my veto can be bought but it isn't going to be cheap so that's

00:23:34.680 the first thing the second thing it was all through the campaign he was talking about quebec

00:23:40.120 has to be acceptable to quebec well if it goes out over the uh and over the hudson over hudson's

00:23:48.920 bay then i guess quebec is cut out of that equation a lot of infrastructure a lot of

00:23:54.440 development a lot of money will need to be spent before that can happen but it's not actually a bad

00:23:58.360 idea now as for um nowhere in all of this he says and by the way as evidence of good faith

00:24:05.640 we are scrapping the no tankers ban this is the ban that prevents tankers from docking in british

00:24:12.200 columbia there is no comparable ban on tankers docking in eastern canada but there is one on

00:24:17.720 the western canada so on the northwest yeah so there's a very specific anti anti-alberta

00:24:24.760 impetus behind that.

00:24:27.980 The tankers on the East Coast,

00:24:29.320 let's just remind our listeners and viewers,

00:24:32.040 the tankers on the East Coast

00:24:33.000 are bringing oil to Canada.

00:24:35.900 Tankers on the West Coast are taking

00:24:37.340 oil from Canada. And from places,

00:24:39.520 by the way, that have really

00:24:41.200 advanced environmental standards

00:24:43.440 like Nigeria, 0.82

00:24:45.340 a number of other places

00:24:47.140 where you wouldn't want to take a vacation.

00:24:49.500 So, look,

00:24:50.700 that would have

00:24:53.260 been the easiest thing in the world for him to say you know and one of the first things we're

00:24:57.320 going to do when we get back is to lift the no tanker ban on the west coast but it cost him

00:25:03.020 nothing but he didn't do that so then you get to actually mr eby's uh designated mouthpiece

00:25:12.320 nikki sharma the deputy pm comes in and says well you know alberta doesn't have a pipeline project

00:25:18.620 to go anyway we prefer to go on things that are shovel ready well when you do things on that first

00:25:24.380 off how would you have a prominent proponent when everybody has in federal and provincial politics

00:25:30.620 has been saying for the last 10 years we don't want pipelines we don't want pipelines people

00:25:34.780 say all right fine we'll go and build pipelines somewhere else and then the second thing the

00:25:38.700 shovel ready the projects that she talks about turns about when you read the fine print a lot

00:25:45.340 of it is what you would call social infrastructure now they they like that term infrastructure because

00:25:50.780 it sounds good schools and hospitals and bridges and roads i mean these are all things you've got

00:25:55.980 to have but these are the things you build with the money you make from pipelines and energy

00:26:04.460 extraction these are not the same thing they are not a substitute for it so i mean the bc position

00:26:11.100 is just what you would expect from any NDP government.

00:26:14.000 A hypothetical stand on a notional point of principle.

00:26:17.680 Something else of note with this, as much as Carney, as you said,

00:26:20.400 doesn't inflame on each side and everything, but he's careful with his words.

00:26:23.640 One word that actually has never escaped his lips since this meeting

00:26:26.500 is the word pipeline.

00:26:27.660 He talks around it, he talks above it, he talks below it,

00:26:30.660 but he never uses the P word.

00:26:32.060 He'll say Trudeau before he says pipelines, and he hasn't said Trudeau yet.

00:26:35.000 And when he says energy, you know, he just says energy,

00:26:37.520 he doesn't say ever oil and gas.

00:26:39.180 No, no.

00:26:40.100 So he's being very careful about that.

00:26:42.800 He's hedging his bets.

00:26:44.060 And if he, again, if he was meaning it, if he really thinks it's going to go, I mean, the man would say it.

00:26:49.960 He would point to it.

00:26:50.700 He said, we've got to do this.

00:26:51.900 And he's not.

00:26:52.540 He's feeding weasel words.

00:26:58.520 Part of me wonders if he's trying to just string this out for now.

00:27:04.280 And I don't know if it could be strung out long enough.

00:27:05.960 But, you know, we are headed towards an independence referendum in Alberta.

00:27:11.240 It's the latest within two years, probably within a year and a half or so.

00:27:18.020 If he wants to keep Alberta under the Dominion, I mean, we're going to need at least a pretty good signal that some of these things can go forward.

00:27:29.680 I mean, I don't think a pipeline or two or three or four, even five actually solves Alberta's problems.

00:27:35.020 they're needed, they're absolutely necessary

00:27:37.240 but the problems go much

00:27:39.320 deeper, much more structural than that

00:27:41.280 but I mean, if

00:27:43.220 Albertans believe that there's some major new

00:27:45.280 pipelines under construction

00:27:46.660 it would probably be enough to at least

00:27:49.280 tip the balance in favor of the Federalist

00:27:51.340 side in a referendum

00:27:52.380 but

00:27:54.300 is that what he's playing at here? Just trying to

00:27:57.440 give enough hope?

00:27:59.160 We've got to see dirt move 1.00

00:28:00.280 we've been hearing that crap for years 0.97

00:28:03.180 I mean, yeah, I've been traveling a lot lately and hit a few meetings and speaking, and things aren't calming down post-election. 0.98

00:28:09.900 They can be calmed.

00:28:11.620 They can.

00:28:12.160 But it takes a bit of sacrifice on his part.

00:28:14.640 It takes leadership being sometimes doing something, even if your own ideology doesn't agree with it, but saying, we've got to get this done.

00:28:20.920 I've got to do it for the West.

00:28:22.160 I've got to do it for Canada.

00:28:22.960 I've got to do it for Alberta.

00:28:24.360 We've got to see dirt moving.

00:28:26.140 We've got to see, or at least that's such a strong guarantee that a private player has said, you know what, I'm going to take a chance.

00:28:33.220 I don't think Lucy's going to steal the ball from me this time.

00:28:37.080 We're going to commit ourselves to doing this project.

00:28:40.100 So that's just the government's commitment.

00:28:41.440 We've got to see a private interest say they're going to do it.

00:28:44.340 We don't need another Trans Mountain debacle.

00:28:46.560 We've got to see.

00:28:47.680 Well, that's part of the problem.

00:28:48.780 I was like, who in their right mind, actually, there's obviously business case, strong, very strong business case for building pipelines.

00:28:55.420 but who in their right mind looking at the current

00:28:57.840 environment in Canada would actually

00:28:59.760 want to do so. They need real guarantees.

00:29:01.980 So, I mean, think of

00:29:03.880 the tech frontier mine. It would have been

00:29:05.860 a huge expansion of Alberta's

00:29:08.160 oil sands and

00:29:09.920 the feds did not

00:29:13.320 officially kill it

00:29:15.800 but their prints and blood were all

00:29:18.260 over the murder weapon. I think they pulled the plug

00:29:20.200 on it 24 hours, maybe

00:29:21.840 48 before the official deadline

00:29:24.400 the feds just sent

00:29:26.980 all the signals that

00:29:28.120 it's not happening guys

00:29:29.660 we're going to do something else for you

00:29:32.880 on the side here but you guys have to

00:29:34.920 withdraw your application

00:29:36.040 so technically withdrew its application

00:29:38.780 it's like

00:29:39.500 they killed that too 0.92

00:29:41.880 the trial's over you change your plea to guilty 0.99

00:29:43.760 right before the judge sentences you to death

00:29:46.040 that's what happened

00:29:48.200 so yeah

00:29:51.640 I just don't know what's believable here

00:29:53.580 but people

00:29:55.160 it's an old government, very old government

00:29:57.940 same players, same staffers, mostly same cabinet

00:30:00.340 but

00:30:01.480 he's a new crime minister

00:30:03.900 and everybody cares about the leader

00:30:05.080 that's all people care about in politics

00:30:07.000 people can't even name their own member of parliament

00:30:08.880 is, I don't know

00:30:11.280 I think enough people are going to

00:30:13.260 give this guy a chance

00:30:14.520 it would be the

00:30:16.460 naturally human thing to do

00:30:18.740 somebody new comes on the scene

00:30:20.180 are you so reflexively anti-liberal

00:30:23.080 or anti-Central Canada that you can't even give the fellow a chance to.

00:30:27.700 Yes.

00:30:28.260 Do you are, I think you may be.

00:30:31.100 I'm pretty determined there.

00:30:32.680 I'm trying to work on my character because I am too.

00:30:37.120 My character is perfect.

00:30:38.040 I have to say most people will say, well, let's at least give the, he speaks well,

00:30:44.100 let's at least give him a chance.

00:30:46.080 The thing with all of this is that the judgment on it comes down the road.

00:30:50.480 two years he is is the he wants to bring in legislation that will put a worthy

00:31:01.100 project on the ground in two years all the approvals will be there so people

00:31:05.960 ask her enough that's better than 10 years that seems reasonable so he brings

00:31:09.740 in the legislation he gets it passed somebody applies and we'll see if it

00:31:14.160 happens inside two years so it's going to be two years plus before you have any

00:31:19.460 kind of an opportunity to pass judgment on whether this is even a good idea well it depends on the

00:31:25.700 legislation too because it it's got to be clear that there's a light at the end of that year it's

00:31:30.420 not you can spend a billion dollars over two years and then we're going to rug pull you yeah because

00:31:35.220 they gotta know and then speaking of in bringing down barriers to internal trade i think the idea

00:31:42.820 was set pretty firmly during the election campaign that by july the first we'd have it done

00:31:48.920 Well, now it's sometime in December.

00:31:51.480 Can I send a dairy cow across the border yet? 0.84

00:31:53.320 Yep.

00:31:53.780 No, I don't get it.

00:31:55.080 Not your cow. 0.87

00:31:56.360 Well, I can't get a cow. 1.00

00:31:58.160 Or I can have a cow, but I can't pull milk out of it or all the dairy police will get me. 0.83

00:32:01.620 I'm thinking of starting an ostrich farm in my house.

00:32:04.240 Yeah, you know, you can't milk those.

00:32:06.440 Yeah, you've heard about the hunting marketing view.

00:32:08.140 You haven't had ostrich milk yet.

00:32:09.640 You haven't lived.

00:32:10.400 Yeah.

00:32:10.860 Anyway, people are going to be invited because he speaks well.

00:32:14.880 People are going to be invited to give him a chance.

00:32:17.900 And it's only two and a half years before you really see whether all this talk means anything at all, by which time you're 18 months from another election.

00:32:26.580 And they're hoping that Albertans have cooled down enough, have not voted to leave.

00:32:31.440 But we've got to look at the other aspects. Is he this brilliant economist? Is he this brilliant banker?

00:32:35.560 Because we also know we've got a really ugly economic outlook, and we're sitting on resources.

00:32:42.880 it will help them. It will help them with their

00:32:44.900 budget. I mean, they need to change that

00:32:46.680 book. And

00:32:48.780 as I said,

00:32:51.040 people want to give him a chance, so

00:32:52.080 fine, but he's really got to act.

00:32:54.640 We want to see more than promises. We've got to see

00:32:56.920 some changes.

00:32:59.460 Okay. Well, we're

00:33:01.120 continuing with

00:33:02.840 Carney Day here.

00:33:06.440 So

00:33:06.840 during

00:33:08.400 Mark Carney

00:33:11.320 and the Liberals' whole thing was

00:33:12.880 elbows up here oh let's just show them doing the chicken dance there let's just roll that little 0.66

00:33:17.200 video mark carney and his liberals elbows up they're fighting back against the bad orange

00:33:31.400 man uh they're tough they're taking they're taking them into the boards elbows up boys

00:33:37.100 um then it turned out once the votes were counted liberals are safely back in power

00:33:42.300 it turns out the liberals secretly removed the tariffs the retaliatory tariffs during during

00:33:50.280 the middle of the election campaign we found out only after the votes were counted the election

00:33:54.520 campaign is over but during the election when a government is supposed to be in caretaker mode

00:33:59.900 it's i mean this is pretty wonky westminster stuff but the government goes into caretaker mode

00:34:06.940 It's really only to make the most extremely critical national security decisions.

00:34:15.380 Possibly tariffs could fall under that, but at least should be publicly announced if that's going on.

00:34:21.080 The idea is that you're not able to use the power of the government itself for political ends during an election campaign.

00:34:28.460 But they secretly got rid of their own retaliatory tariffs against the United States,

00:34:34.240 while still claiming to be elbows up.

00:34:37.940 They had actually done it privately, secretly,

00:34:40.900 and we're still staying.

00:34:42.260 We're fighting back, retaliate, elbows up.

00:34:45.420 Liberals are back in power.

00:34:46.620 And then we find this out.

00:34:47.940 Are you suggesting that the liberals lied?

00:34:51.060 Liberals are incapable of lying.

00:34:52.980 The truth is liberals. 0.94

00:34:55.520 Okay, now we're back in again.

00:34:59.800 Trump's tariffs have been like a yo-yo on and off.

00:35:02.320 If it's, I'm not a believer that he does have some great strategy.

00:35:06.300 I think they are just flying by to see their pants and maybe they do have an end goal in

00:35:09.100 mind, but I, the on again, off again thing.

00:35:11.440 I I'm just not seeing their brilliant strategy here.

00:35:13.820 Uh, but more tariffs, backbone, steel and aluminum here, which, uh, I mean, that's a

00:35:20.160 big deal in Ontario and Quebec.

00:35:21.920 Uh, not as big out here, but, um, we're not hearing too much about elbows up again.

00:35:28.200 And they all of a sudden seem to be a lot more of diplomacy.

00:35:31.760 Let's just talk to the guy, reason with them.

00:35:35.380 One-on-one meetings seem to actually do a lot of good with Trump.

00:35:38.180 You know, you can go in, you say the right things, make him feel good.

00:35:41.420 You can walk out with a win.

00:35:42.820 I think they figured that that's the way to do it.

00:35:45.180 But it's not elbows up anymore, is it?

00:35:48.680 It certainly isn't. 0.85

00:35:49.700 And frankly, it was a foolish thing to start with anyway.

00:35:55.800 When you place tariffs on food, for example,

00:35:59.400 you just make food more expensive in Canada.

00:36:02.340 So I do believe that some of the tariffs, at least, that you speak of,

00:36:06.660 were tariffs that we had foolishly placed upon food.

00:36:11.080 So that was a non-starter.

00:36:13.400 And it's the same.

00:36:13.960 If you've got a component or an ingredient or you're making something in Canada

00:36:19.120 and the end result of your retaliatory tariffs is to make that item more expensive,

00:36:24.960 then you're only hurting yourself and this of course is the tremendously frustrating thing

00:36:31.140 for canadian nationalists about dealing with the united states whatever you try ends up hurting

00:36:37.880 yourself they're just so much bigger and more powerful you can say well i'm not going to import

00:36:42.440 this from you the typical american manufacturer just says well that's i'll sell it in the domestic

00:36:48.020 market you guys are only four percent of my my business anyway so that so that's the first thing

00:36:54.240 about um about retaliatory tariffs is basically they don't work what but anyone who said that

00:37:01.600 uh during elbows up oh yeah was called a traitor weak on trump you're a puppet of trump i mean

00:37:08.220 polyev was calling for retaliatory tariffs too is the polls were shown that canadians wanted to 0.61

00:37:12.700 fight back even if it's a matter of kicking themselves between their own legs to do so

00:37:16.360 danielle smith was called a traitor she's a traitor because she doesn't spot the retaliatory 1.00

00:37:20.200 tariffs while carney had already gotten rid of them but publicly was pretending that they were

00:37:26.960 still in place am i taking crazy pills here well i mean ford's being through to his nature i guess

00:37:33.540 because he was on today speaking up it's demanding it we return the retaliatory tariffs so i guess

00:37:38.920 he's not always in carney's camp because i don't think carney wants to hear that pressure coming

00:37:42.460 I don't know, it's kind of a good

00:37:44.640 bad copper team, he's been

00:37:46.720 playing kind of the tough guy

00:37:48.420 he's Toronto boy

00:37:50.740 so he's the tie dome, he's the enforcer on the team

00:37:52.920 he's elbows up and taking

00:37:54.760 them into the boards, he talks tough

00:37:56.560 against America, I'm going to cut off your electricity

00:37:58.240 I don't know, he talks tough until he gets

00:38:00.780 a call from Howard Leavitt, the commerce secretary

00:38:02.940 saying he better not do that

00:38:04.260 15 minutes later it was all

00:38:06.160 just elbows up, elbows down

00:38:08.840 stay down 0.93

00:38:10.260 Ford is a blowhard. 0.99

00:38:11.520 Yeah, well, and so is Trump. 0.94

00:38:13.500 The problem is we've got to let this policy, I think, run its course.

00:38:16.080 He seems to back off when, you know, the realities come.

00:38:19.220 It sounds like he's going to double aluminum and steel tariffs,

00:38:22.520 which is going to, for American consumers,

00:38:25.000 even if they're manufacturing those cars in the USA,

00:38:27.180 you're now adding another few thousand to the price tag of every vehicle there.

00:38:31.380 Or if you're looking at Ford's base, or Trump's base,

00:38:34.200 the aluminum tariffs will add to the cost of a can of beer

00:38:36.920 with the aluminum cans of beer.

00:38:39.880 The American consumers, as we're saying,

00:38:41.620 with tariffs, cost your own consumers.

00:38:44.420 And it's got to run its course, I guess.

00:38:47.180 You know, the consumers aren't thinking of the economics of it.

00:38:49.540 They're cheering for the Trump MAGA aspect

00:38:52.460 and thinking it's brilliant until it hits their own pocketbook.

00:38:55.380 And then they realize the reality of tariffs.

00:38:58.260 But I don't know what else is going to do it.

00:38:59.780 You know, fighting with Trump won't work.

00:39:00.900 I mean, getting in his face doesn't work

00:39:02.380 as the retaliatory tariffs don't work.

00:39:04.400 Well, it was like the old Charles Atlas, the Seven Stone Wheatling, who was never going

00:39:09.780 to arise from the sand, you know, he had to first go off and get himself toned up and

00:39:16.280 muscled up.

00:39:17.280 And I suppose that's what Mr. Carney would tell you he is trying to do with the strategy

00:39:22.580 that he is.

00:39:23.580 So energy independence would do that.

00:39:26.520 We'd have to get a pipeline.

00:39:27.520 But you know, the trouble is, I don't think we believe him, do we?

00:39:30.900 I don't know.

00:39:31.900 No, I mean, the same issues haven't changed at all in a month.

00:39:35.180 I mean, that's part of what's going on, too.

00:39:37.040 Trump's still ragdolling us with his on-again, off-again policies,

00:39:39.760 and we're still actually skittering on the ice talking about doing things,

00:39:43.440 but not actually doing anything.

00:39:46.780 All right.

00:39:47.660 Well, put a pin in there and go to our parting shots. 0.96

00:39:51.560 Let's start with you, Nigel.

00:39:52.360 Sure.

00:39:52.660 So I'm doing it.

00:39:55.100 My wife said to me,

00:39:58.280 what exactly is the final score on the election and the answer is i can't tell you even now because

00:40:04.200 they're still litigating one uh one uh seat in quebec but it calls me to go back to the numbers

00:40:10.280 first of all as things stand according to elections canada the liberals have 169 seats

00:40:16.520 which is four short of a majority and the conservatives have 144 which is 17 seats short

00:40:24.040 But I just noticed something. Four seats changed hands on a combined 40 votes.

00:40:34.200 That is to say that in one of the Windsor seats, the candidate won, the conservative, as it happens, won by four votes.

00:40:45.360 In Milton East, the liberal won by four votes.

00:40:49.940 these are all the subjects of judicial recounts these we can now take to the

00:40:54.380 bank and say that it's a done deal there's another seat change hands on 23 0.98

00:41:01.700 and then in Quebec Terranova 12 seats but the best of all is terrible damn 0.70

00:41:08.360 terrible terrible terrible which also works on one seat what one one vote

00:41:15.380 to turn the seat so 40 seats sorry four seats turned on 40 votes this is democracy in action

00:41:23.820 i suppose it's a good thing but it's i'll tell you what it sort of validates everything you ever

00:41:28.260 heard about getting out of the vote jenny byrne is kind of controversial i'll tell you all about

00:41:33.320 that and those four seats are the difference between majority and minority which that's a

00:41:38.460 very big deal um yeah that one seat terrible in uh quebec uh it's one one vote one vote uh but we

00:41:49.700 know it was not a legitimate election there i don't think it was any great conspiracy there's

00:41:53.560 no there's no evidence of that but normally there is a margin and you accept that okay there's going

00:41:59.160 to be a little bit of there's there's human error in a human process a democracy is human

00:42:04.660 but the margin of error is not normally

00:42:07.800 one vote or four votes

00:42:09.680 and you can expect that

00:42:11.020 whatever that margin of error was

00:42:13.140 the margin of victory is big enough that it doesn't matter

00:42:15.780 but here

00:42:17.180 it does matter, at one vote there is

00:42:19.520 several cases already of people who

00:42:21.200 voted Bloc Québécois in mail-in ballots

00:42:23.320 and Elections Canada put the wrong return

00:42:25.640 address on the pre-printed ballot

00:42:27.760 so it was Elections Canada's fault

00:42:29.520 that that vote was not

00:42:30.240 counted for the Bloc Québécois

00:42:33.560 there is only one answer to that 0.82

00:42:36.820 it's dirty

00:42:38.260 but it's a by-election

00:42:39.520 there must be a by-election

00:42:41.340 in that terrible rotting

00:42:42.620 and that's a small price to pay

00:42:45.220 for preserving the integrity

00:42:47.280 of the election process

00:42:48.100 it's a very small price

00:42:49.200 and I don't know what's actually

00:42:51.700 going to happen there

00:42:52.420 can the court order a new election?

00:42:55.560 well it's under judicial review

00:42:57.160 so I guess they can

00:42:58.120 I don't think who else would do it

00:43:01.120 Corey

00:43:01.740 Well, you know, I was looking at things, David Clement. There was a good piece on the story he did with the Mexican cartels. They're operating in Canada with fentanyl and we've had foreign interference going on. We still have intimidation of families of politicians in Canada. So our federal force, what are they doing to take care of this?

00:43:20.120 Well, they're investigating possible war crimes in Israel.

00:43:24.580 The RCMP is dedicating time to a jurisdiction on the other side of the ocean.

00:43:31.620 They've got a task force on it to see if there's been war crimes committed by Israel and the IDF over the conflict over there. 0.99

00:43:38.340 I just, it's so profoundly stupid and out of their range and showing again the ideological leanings that are taking over this government where they're infatuated with other things. 0.98

00:43:46.920 Well, we've got a whole pile of domestic things they really should be working on. 0.99

00:43:51.120 And it just reminds me again is why Calgary, Alberta should kick them the heck out of our province, get a provincial force that'll focus on crime while they dither away on causes that have absolutely nothing to do with us.

00:44:02.740 Yeah, I think it is appropriate for some kind of independent authorities to be looking into.

00:44:07.920 I mean, if there is war, there is going to be a war crime that is always there is almost never been an exception to that on both sides.

00:44:14.620 Some sides are going to be worse than others.

00:44:16.920 so I'm fine looking

00:44:19.080 into it. But that's not the job of the bloody

00:44:20.980 RCMP.

00:44:22.680 The Royal Canadian Mounted Police,

00:44:24.860 this is a job for the Hague,

00:44:26.820 the UN, as wildly

00:44:29.080 corrupted,

00:44:30.800 morally bankrupted as it is.

00:44:33.540 But there are

00:44:34.860 boys anyway. Yeah, there are

00:44:36.660 bodies at least nominally

00:44:38.680 responsible for looking into that kind of thing.

00:44:41.020 Sure as hell ain't the RCs.

00:44:42.560 No, I'm not even taking no. I mean, I got lots

00:44:44.660 of opinions on the history of the conflict, but

00:44:46.500 In this case, it's just not

00:44:48.920 the role of the RCMP. Get the heck

00:44:50.960 out of it.

00:44:52.340 Okay. Well, mine

00:44:53.760 is for Toronto Pride.

00:44:58.640 So

00:44:58.960 the Toronto... I don't think

00:45:00.980 they call it Gay Pride anymore because

00:45:02.400 they've taken up half the alphabet. I think they added

00:45:04.880 two letters this year. I think there was another L

00:45:06.820 and an I or something. They always make sure to throw a plus on the

00:45:08.920 end too so you can just kind of cover everything.

00:45:10.680 Yeah, but they added after more letters.

00:45:12.960 Maybe another L

00:45:15.000 and an I or...

00:45:16.400 I don't give it an hour.

00:45:17.960 Yeah.

00:45:19.580 So anyway, they've got a $400,000 funding shortfall this year

00:45:25.580 because in the backlash against DEI and wokeness and whatnot,

00:45:33.140 Home Depot and Google have pulled their money.

00:45:37.100 And so they got a $400,000 funding shortfall.

00:45:39.360 I was watching some man in a dress on CTV yesterday bemoaning this,

00:45:45.940 how bigoted

00:45:47.300 the Home Depot

00:45:50.280 is for not paying

00:45:52.240 for him to flip his skirt up 1.00

00:45:54.020 and show his whatnots to the little children

00:45:56.240 that are there.

00:45:57.840 It's worth pointing out, I think.

00:46:00.300 Whatever you think of Pride Parades,

00:46:03.000 ones in, say, Calgary or Edmonton,

00:46:06.400 they're not my bag, whatever.

00:46:09.600 But the one in Toronto

00:46:10.560 is downright criminal.

00:46:12.000 They're exposing themselves to little children.

00:46:14.420 There are grown men, some of them still consider themselves men, some of them do not, but they're people with men's parts, and they go around showing themselves explicitly and disgustingly to little children who are there.

00:46:28.700 People who should be immediately charged criminally with indecent exposure and forms of child sexual exploitation.

00:46:35.940 Maybe somebody should have a word with the parents as well.

00:46:38.580 Why bring a cat to such a venue?

00:46:40.800 You know that's going to take place if you're a parent.

00:46:43.160 You brought your kid there.

00:46:44.100 I think you should also be held criminally responsible

00:46:46.280 for it

00:46:46.720 that's Toronto pride

00:46:49.660 Calgary

00:46:52.060 and Edmonton

00:46:53.380 by all accounts I've heard are

00:46:56.080 not tame or classy

00:47:00.360 but a hell of a lot

00:47:01.820 classier than what they do in Toronto

00:47:04.080 but anyway we've got

00:47:05.800 people in the newsroom behind us here

00:47:07.840 we've got on, we're trying to look into

00:47:09.840 seeing if there's been similar

00:47:11.900 corporate sponsorship cuts

00:47:15.300 to Pride in

00:47:16.700 Calgary and Edmonton as well.

00:47:20.540 So, anyway,

00:47:21.720 I don't know if that's the case or not.

00:47:23.760 We're going to find out when our reporters get into it.

00:47:25.680 But I'm not

00:47:27.660 shedding any tears for Toronto Pride

00:47:29.020 and the utter degeneracy

00:47:31.400 of what goes on there.

00:47:34.200 Excuse me.

00:47:35.180 Yep.

00:47:36.440 All right.

00:47:38.880 Well, that's it for the pipeline today.

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