Western Standard - No Canada (tariffs... for now)

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00:01:00.000 Good day. Today is April 2nd, 2025.

00:01:14.720 I am Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard,

00:01:17.300 and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:01:19.480 I'm joined, as usual, by Western Standard opinion editor,

00:01:23.620 Nigel Hannaford.

00:01:24.900 Dragged myself away from the Trump show just to be here.

00:01:27.920 It was pretty good.

00:01:29.080 It was good.

00:01:30.000 And Western Standard Senior Alberta Columnist, Corey Morgan.

00:01:33.000 Always a pleasure.

00:01:34.600 Unusually joining us today is Western Standard's energy and business reporter, Sean Pulser.

00:01:41.140 On T-Day.

00:01:42.220 You know, there's so much stuff.

00:01:44.140 We're going to be talking about pipelines today, which is pretty damn good for the pipeline.

00:01:47.600 So we've got to bring in the man who lays the most pipe around here.

00:01:51.600 All right.

00:01:52.640 That was a compliment.

00:01:54.520 How was that for a segue?

00:01:55.600 All right.

00:01:58.860 We're going to talk about Liberation Day.

00:02:01.720 Today, Trump has declared today to be Liberation Day,

00:02:05.760 an extensive list of retaliatory tariffs or reciprocal tariffs

00:02:11.940 against many U.S. trading partners.

00:02:16.520 Did Canada dodge a bullet?

00:02:19.680 We might have. We're going to talk about it.

00:02:23.040 Mark Carney had been sounding a bit more pragmatic earlier about...

00:02:26.760 perhaps it would be a good idea for canada to be able to you know ship oil across the country

00:02:33.140 without going through the united states during a trade war uh well he's reversed his position on

00:02:38.140 that nope no more uh the uh the no more pipelines bill is going to stay and therefore pretty much

00:02:45.460 that's going to mean no more pipelines uh and uh just oh boy this is a great one uh pier poliev

00:02:52.900 have talked about the need for young couples to be able to afford a home before they're collecting

00:02:58.600 cpp and they and women's biological clocks run out that apparently is so very racist or 0.94

00:03:06.340 misogynistic or transphobic or something i don't i don't really know what the unacceptable very

00:03:11.980 unacceptable but roundly uh pilloried by liberals and new democrats and unemployed uh fake news

00:03:22.880 TV personalities. We'll be talking about that. Before we get started, though, I'm going to thank

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00:04:02.060 with uh the biological clock that is ticking um you know before actually you get into it

00:04:09.180 why don't we just roll the clip of uh the very offensive misogynistic racist transphobic thing 0.65

00:04:16.220 that uh peer poly have had to say i'm sorry i may have to avert my eyes uh this uh parental

00:04:23.400 discretion is strongly advised the following clip is very graphic and offensive we will not forget

00:04:30.700 that young 36 year old couple whose biological clock is running out faster than they can afford

00:04:37.520 to buy a home and have kids all right you heard it there uh peer poly have hates women uh because 1.00

00:04:44.700 he wants them to be able to afford a house uh while they're still capable of bearing children

00:04:51.340 nigel tell us why this is so very of him well it's uh it's liberal hate and rage isn't that

00:04:57.660 i mean the story here is that he was in new brunswick the question came up about housing

00:05:01.980 policy he's been big about housing policy so is mr carney very legitimate uh subject and he made

00:05:09.180 the point that uh many young people at the time they've saved up for a house it's too late to

00:05:14.380 have the children the biological clock has wrought he said well that i mean that was this week's

00:05:26.060 estrogen moment um all these hostile liberal women who can i actually even use that phrase 1.00

00:05:33.100 gents you know hostile liberal what is a woman you could just call them feminists 1.00

00:05:36.860 oh i was more referring to the estrogen estrogen moment but anyway look whatever you want to call

00:05:42.940 it all the people who you know were never going to vote for polio anyway came out and said he was a

00:05:48.540 nasty man because he was making these patronizing comments about the biological clock men aren't

00:05:55.020 supposed to talk about that you know i don't know what i don't know how you sort of refer to 0.96

00:05:59.820 i suppose you could think of something but we have to be able to talk to each other and there

00:06:04.220 are certain comments or we all know what the biological clock is you know the only thing that

00:06:10.620 i would fault mr polyevron on this one is the assumption that you have to own your house before

00:06:16.300 you can have children i happen to know that i was not conceived or raised in uh in a house that my

00:06:24.620 parents owned with the back of the van they heard i wasn't that was driving that was ndp propaganda

00:06:31.340 it was a james bond movie that's why my name is sean i was named that well there you are you know

00:06:35.660 but look that's the way the young people want to do it these days they were they want to

00:06:38.780 you know first they move in together then they then they have the wedding and then they buy the

00:06:42.940 house or they buy the house and then they have the wedding once all that is taken care of and paid

00:06:47.740 for now we're ready to start it's one approach it's not one that i would endorse but it's

00:06:54.620 It's the way they do it.

00:06:55.900 And that's what Mr. Poliarev was speaking to

00:06:58.800 when he made the general point that, look,

00:07:01.180 by the time they're ready, it's too late.

00:07:03.880 The clock has run out,

00:07:06.180 and that brought down all kinds of hate and calumny on him.

00:07:09.820 I have to just sort of give Amy Herr,

00:07:12.760 who's come into the news for other reasons,

00:07:14.720 I want to give her credit for really summing this up beautifully.

00:07:19.860 She said, put this on Twitter,

00:07:21.240 And suddenly, when you're more outraged by, actually, this is Lisa Raitt, when you're more outraged by a conservative MP using the term biological clock than by a liberal MP encouraging the turning in of a Canadian citizen to a foreign government in exchange for a bounty, you have lost the plot.

00:07:45.640 She is so right. That is exactly where these people have landed up. That's the story.

00:07:51.240 all right uh we're not gonna get uh i'm gonna talk about her later in my parting shots cory

00:07:58.040 but uh i mean one of the most hilarious over-the-top reactions was now unemployed

00:08:03.100 former ctv very fair fact checker uh rachel gilmore she says it was misogynistic i don't 0.61

00:08:10.020 have the exact quote for me but i do know she's the term it was misogynistic uh i resisted the

00:08:15.400 urge to say someone's clock's taken on their employment i don't know uh on something um

00:08:21.660 it's there was a lot of um angry liberal men of course supporting angry liberal women who appear

00:08:33.160 to have let their clock uh run out uh very just very upset about this this seemed to almost

00:08:39.340 strike a very personal tone for a lot of progressivist feminists out there. 1.00

00:08:45.840 Remember, the old maid cat ladies were the last remaining strong support demographic 1.00

00:08:51.360 for Justin Trudeau when he left.

00:08:53.400 They were perhaps waiting for him to help their clock out before it ran out.

00:08:57.200 Oh, you're going to have to add that one to the production. 0.93

00:09:00.820 But I mean, just the insensitivity, fine.

00:09:02.980 You know, you've got to watch it when the liberal gotcha games are going.

00:09:07.180 And Polly should have watched it when you use any term when it comes to women's issues. 1.00

00:09:11.760 But it's funny with progressives.

00:09:13.360 Was it Mark Holland who was saying we should be all talking more about women's menstruation?

00:09:17.500 Because they do have an official menstruation day. 0.98

00:09:19.920 I mean, you know, it's absurd and ridiculous.

00:09:21.740 If you look it up, one of the cabinet ministers did talk about that in the House of Commons. 0.97

00:09:25.060 Well, definitely the same people who believe men can menstruate. 0.72

00:09:27.140 Yeah, and that had a big ick factor, but it didn't lead to the Hornets circling or going mad over that.

00:09:32.460 You know, men should stay away from talking about or opining, I guess, on what a woman should do with her own issues, which are unique because they're just going to run into trouble. 0.98

00:09:43.400 But I mean, the hypersensitivity and the faux outrage.

00:09:46.800 I mean, if some woman wanted to come up and discuss my prostate issues, she probably couldn't speak very well on them. 1.00

00:09:52.480 And I would find it weird to talk about, but I wouldn't lose my mind a bit more on the air, Corey.

00:09:57.840 Tell us more about your prostate.

00:09:59.120 Well, I mean, I almost did my colonoscopy issue pictures of the past, too.

00:10:04.280 You're always keeping a classy.

00:10:05.780 I like to save and share every card so we can share them.

00:10:09.140 I put mine up there as well.

00:10:12.000 Oh, okay, you know what?

00:10:13.380 That's going to be, we're launching some new membership levels.

00:10:16.100 I'm thinking that's, we were thinking, what's the value adds?

00:10:18.580 I'm going to lose some numbers.

00:10:20.420 15.

00:10:21.320 Cory Morgan trading cards.

00:10:23.340 That's going to be great.

00:10:24.540 And that's, I mean, this is just an issue just for light conversation as far as I'm concerned.

00:10:28.320 the only outrage is from the usual suspects trying to make something out of

00:10:31.640 nothing. At worst, it was a bit of a poor taste at worst, if that.

00:10:37.800 And, and I don't know, it's just baiting the obvious facts.

00:10:41.900 Yeah. I mean, just the term biological clock,

00:10:43.940 but what are you supposed to say?

00:10:45.020 You're praising a little better if you're being careful.

00:10:46.900 You say you want to move on and start your family as, you know,

00:10:50.540 at a younger point in life and having a home established might make that

00:10:55.180 easier. I mean,

00:10:55.640 there's ways you could say it without

00:10:56.940 biological clock, even though it's not

00:10:59.440 all that

00:11:00.500 inaccurate a term for it. It's been a well

00:11:03.540 accepted for a long time.

00:11:05.340 Sean, your biological clock is

00:11:07.220 ticking. I think the most offensive part

00:11:11.320 here was not clock. It was the

00:11:13.400 word biological.

00:11:15.280 Biological is a very triggering 1.00

00:11:17.480 word for a lot of people right now.

00:11:20.020 Like, biological men, 1.00

00:11:21.820 biological women, 1.00

00:11:23.800 that there are such persons

00:11:25.460 Birthing persons, people who menstruate, because we can't talk about the word women, perhaps it was just a, you know, for a lot of us, we just take it very for granted that there are objective facts in science, like biology, and it's perhaps just rude to mention the biological reality that humans, men too, although we've got a bit more leeway on the matter,

00:11:52.580 but uh that there are biological realities and that it is factual that women can only give birth

00:12:01.480 between certain ages well you know um i sat in on a presentation um in banff at the global business

00:12:08.700 forum probably about a year and a half ago and i believe it was the head of nanos and uh he was

00:12:13.940 talking about that very thing uh demographics is destiny so and he was talking about the aging of

00:12:20.440 population in general but also women specifically um that you know once you get a certain category of

00:12:27.240 women over the age of 40 you know your uh the fertility rate of the nation goes down right 0.99

00:12:33.640 so that that is just a fact and you make it up with immigration or or whatever way you can and

00:12:41.400 canada is not even the worst in this regard like japan like there's a lot of countries that are

00:12:45.880 are facing demographic crises russia is another one basically with the war but you know there

00:12:51.000 it's a different thing because you have uh biologically aged uh reproductive men that

00:12:58.120 are disappearing from the spectrum there you know like there's about a million of them that have

00:13:01.720 just been completely wiped out here in the last few years well less men to reproduce in a society

00:13:05.480 but that's that's assuming you know like we're colonizing mars and the men have a rather you

00:13:11.160 You know, ascentageous relationships.

00:13:13.360 Yeah.

00:13:14.100 Yeah.

00:13:17.780 You know, I get my...

00:13:19.220 More comments.

00:13:21.380 I'm...

00:13:22.060 Oh, God, I can't wait to see the comments section.

00:13:25.240 You know what?

00:13:26.800 Production, make sure we tag some of the craziest people 0.99

00:13:29.700 on the Twittersphere on this.

00:13:32.960 I...

00:13:33.320 We got to clip some of the best parts of this out,

00:13:36.200 you know, just the biological fact,

00:13:38.180 and just tag some of the right people

00:13:39.800 and, you know, we can place

00:13:41.700 bets on how long it takes their heads to explode 0.85

00:13:43.660 I guess

00:13:44.140 but also, you know, this is 2025

00:13:46.820 wokeness is dying

00:13:48.680 like, the culture war

00:13:51.740 has turned decisively

00:13:53.580 it's not dead, woke is still there, it's still alive

00:13:56.140 but it's being pushed out of the

00:13:57.840 mainstream back into

00:13:59.220 the

00:14:00.240 back into the faculty lounges where

00:14:03.660 if it belongs anywhere, that's the only place

00:14:05.840 it belongs

00:14:06.280 I just don't see

00:14:09.560 Nigel how this is

00:14:11.840 in any way a winning strategy

00:14:13.840 for the liberals because if we make this

00:14:15.760 selection about woke and what not

00:14:17.780 kind of going back to the old issue set

00:14:19.240 pre-Trump trade wars done which was

00:14:21.820 decisively favoring the conservatives where people are 0.99

00:14:23.740 done with this crap 0.99

00:14:24.520 I don't want to talk about it 0.99

00:14:27.000 I just find it

00:14:28.780 beyond belief that the liberals

00:14:31.280 are

00:14:33.240 trying to say that

00:14:35.460 Pierre shouldn't talk about this, he shouldn't talk

00:14:37.760 about the biological clock

00:14:39.140 These are the same people who a few years ago demanded that everyone show their personal health record before being allowed to go to a restaurant or anywhere else, you know.

00:14:51.540 That's true. I still have it on my phone.

00:14:53.880 I think it's a scan called the QA.

00:14:56.320 I may be quoting somebody off Twitter here, but I saw this and I thought, well, that puts it into perfect context.

00:15:04.040 You know, once it's in their favor, they all start to believe in biology again.

00:15:08.240 You know, these people don't deserve to get a single vote.

00:15:12.020 I'm sure they will, but that's...

00:15:14.000 Well, biological reality bothers them to a degree, too.

00:15:16.700 I guess there's some inherent unfairness.

00:15:18.740 That's the way it is.

00:15:19.520 Like, women tend to have an expiration date when it comes to that aspect that men aren't necessarily stuck with.

00:15:27.760 I look forward to the emails.

00:15:29.360 It's fine.

00:15:29.820 You're in trouble.

00:15:30.220 But, I mean, you've got Robert De Niro proudly seeding a garden in the age of 80 or so.

00:15:36.540 That's all right, apparently.

00:15:37.780 the real man you see well it's just the way it is take it up with the the creator of turtle island

00:15:44.800 or whatever your woke progressive ideas are with things to point it out isn't being uh cruel it's

00:15:51.140 just again as we say biological reality but we're not supposed to accept reality or speak of it well

00:15:55.580 get over it girl we should give pierre a pass on this i think so okay uh well today is according

00:16:03.520 to uh u.s president donald trump liberation day uh this is the day where he is uh put in place a

00:16:12.640 long list of retaliatory tariffs against uh other countries that he believes in the u.s

00:16:19.420 administration below not retaliatory reciprocal right reciprocal he's being kind these are kind

00:16:24.640 this is not revenge this is just oh i'm throwing it to you now uh sean to uh kind of explain uh

00:16:30.220 We just saw what it was today.

00:16:32.720 There's still a lot to make sense of it.

00:16:34.500 But out of the bit we know in a short period of time,

00:16:37.580 try to sum up what Liberation Day was all about and what happened.

00:16:41.540 Do you want good news or bad news?

00:16:43.160 Give us the good first.

00:16:45.240 Well, the good news is that Canada wound up off of his list.

00:16:48.880 He's basically declared economic war on the whole entire world,

00:16:52.660 except for the, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, 0.96

00:16:56.520 the shit kicking that we've already taken on the on the fentanyl tariffs and uh the automobile 0.97

00:17:01.000 we can do we can do s-bombs on this show okay okay okay so you know as far as that goes i mean 0.99

00:17:06.920 he made a point on the white house lawn of uh trashing both canada and mexico for uh what did

00:17:11.800 he say cheating and assault taking advantage of the racing and pillaging indeed yeah but then at

00:17:18.680 the end of the day we got off kind of scot-free compared to china which he estimated uh deserved 1.00

00:17:25.720 a 67% tariff, but only got 34%. Poor little old Vietnam, who he claimed to like very much, 1.00

00:17:32.920 even though I guess he avoided the draft back in the day. 90%.

00:17:37.400 He liked that he didn't want to go kill them. 0.86

00:17:38.600 Right. He didn't want to go kill them. Right. And people who did were out of their minds. They 0.98

00:17:41.960 were crazy, right? Yeah.

00:17:44.360 Taiwan, 64%. UK only got 10%. India, 52%. Anyway, it kind of comes down to what you think

00:17:53.320 the calculation of what an actual tariff is because uh he's including currency manipulation

00:17:59.080 uh value-added sales taxes uh or what he calls currency manipulation right um value-added sales

00:18:06.200 taxes and uh whatever else uh regulation i guess in canada it would be the french official

00:18:12.280 bilingualism as a trade barrier because companies you remember target when they had to put french

00:18:18.280 on their pizza boxes or a target brand and it basically wiped them right out of the canadian

00:18:23.880 market they you know they couldn't do it so so um no direct energy tariffs for alberta

00:18:30.920 um so that's good you know most of the stuff that we send to the states is under the u.s free trade

00:18:37.880 agreement dave just sent me a note here that's uh you what who calls usmca compliant for those

00:18:45.240 Those that don't know USMCA's NAFTA 3.0 goods were not subject to any tariffs.

00:18:52.440 So, I don't know.

00:18:54.840 We'll just have to wake up tomorrow to see, you know, whether he changes his mind or not.

00:19:01.180 Corey, it looks to me like we dodged a bullet.

00:19:05.220 I mean, but there are already tariffs against Canada here.

00:19:09.520 Most of them are kind of on a stay of execution at this point.

00:19:13.240 Steel and aluminum is still in place, but that's a global tariff.

00:19:15.680 Automobile is going to be big, too.

00:19:17.420 Yeah, the automobile tariffs, that'll hit Canada possibly more than anyone.

00:19:23.500 Because every time it crosses the border, it's going to get taxed.

00:19:26.820 Well, not necessarily.

00:19:28.980 Well, it doesn't have no GST.

00:19:30.240 You know, it's confusing because you had me on that column piece about the GST on the automobiles,

00:19:36.060 and that is a major sticking point because the U.S. does not have a sales tax.

00:19:40.120 And apparently these cars, when they come from Europe, the automakers get rebated the VAC back, which is another point of contention that, you know, so these may actually even be legitimate grievances.

00:19:52.980 So, I mean, some of what Trump is doing with Canada is not very legitimate in terms of a trade policy.

00:20:00.020 If the goal is, in fact, to have open trade, it's either something else or it's just not making any sense to anyone.

00:20:06.940 But some of these trade barriers, Corey, I think are legitimate.

00:20:12.520 He's talking about, you know, with Europe, the value added tax, which is like they're essentially super GST.

00:20:17.160 But with us, the GST acts somewhat like a trade barrier.

00:20:21.640 He mentioned our supply managed dairy and egg sectors, which, you know, Mark Carney said everything is on the table, including an export embargo against Alberta and Saskatchewan oil.

00:20:33.480 uh apparently what is not on the table and he explicitly said it's off the table is supply

00:20:38.960 management and both pure paul pure paulia said the same in different words cheese cards yeah

00:20:44.620 yep uh very dangerous terrorists right yeah um and then we've got uh as you said totally slack

00:20:53.540 as you've said uh sean uh the language barriers uh you know like requiring bilingual packaging

00:20:59.120 which is for a lot of especially a smaller american companies but even big ones like target

00:21:02.840 smaller ones it's not it's just not worth it for them so they don't come into the Canadian market

00:21:06.520 well that's not an economic policy though that that's more like uh he's attacking

00:21:11.140 like a social policy well it's a social policy that acts as a non-tariff trade barrier and so

00:21:17.260 and so Corey I think you know he's he's wrong on some fronts but he's got a strong point on a few

00:21:24.440 of these things and I I think he's trying to finally kind of stay out of the Canadian election

00:21:29.100 realizing that he's inserted himself in a very big way that could result in a continued socialist

00:21:35.820 government in Canada. I don't know if he really cares what we have as a government in Canada to

00:21:40.300 be honest but I mean he didn't add more to what's already going on in Canada that's the

00:21:46.100 success we could call it for the time being but I mean he's mercurial we don't know what he's

00:21:50.600 going to say tomorrow or next week either but today's big announcements he was going after the

00:21:54.640 whole rest of the world besides Canada, Mexico, but probably because he was already on our case

00:21:59.040 on a number of things. The supply management, yeah, it's garbage. I mean, we've gone on about 0.99

00:22:02.980 that policy for years and no federal politician will ever have the cojones to take that on.

00:22:10.720 No, they're going to elect it. They're afraid of Quebec. So we're at an impasse on that one.

00:22:16.820 And we'll see what happens, particularly in the automotive. We don't know what his demands are

00:22:22.600 still because they move. I mean, he talks about eliminating the $200 billion subsidy to Canada,

00:22:28.460 which is a trade deficit. And he's just BSing when he says that. It's not a subsidy. It's not

00:22:34.540 even a trade deficit. It's a number that he's just made up of here. Again, but so how do we

00:22:39.580 get out of these when he moves the goalposts? And that's where the problems are because he says

00:22:43.940 they're reciprocal tariffs. Okay. Well, what if we said we're going to get rid of supply management

00:22:48.360 rate now. Okay, now what? I mean, with the automotive, he's saying the only way to get

00:22:52.500 out of that is to move your plant to the United States, not a matter of dropping tariffs.

00:22:56.500 So are you actually looking to snipe businesses from here and bring them 1.00

00:23:00.540 down there? Well, that's a problem then. That's getting a little more predatory.

00:23:04.540 I'm not comforted with where he went today. I'm just happy that he didn't add more,

00:23:08.560 but we didn't really see clarity. It's just, I guess, clarity

00:23:12.480 that he definitely is moving towards a very introverted

00:23:16.740 nation that really wants to uh stop trade with the rest of the world and i tell you the ones who

00:23:21.340 should be most scared right now are american consumers because i mean whether you like china

00:23:25.940 or not they're going to find out because you drive in the states you see a dollar store every six

00:23:29.720 blocks and uh the pajama people who go to those for their general shopping when they see a 25 30

00:23:35.980 increase in all the goods that they buy at those are going to become pretty upset and those are

00:23:40.580 the ones flying those trump flags on their front porches that are falling apart we'll see how long

00:23:44.740 that support stays because when it hits you in the pocketbook, you know, you're not going to

00:23:48.200 suddenly have an American manufacturer of toothbrushes and cheap electronic goods in

00:23:53.220 those phones. It's not going to happen overnight. Well, I'm noticing that the businesses aren't

00:23:57.260 exactly that pleased either. So we've got aftermarket trading numbers here. NASDAQ down

00:24:03.720 450. Dow futures down 206. Implied open for the Dow tomorrow morning, down 453 points.

00:24:11.320 NASDAQ futures implied open

00:24:13.580 in the morning down 600 points

00:24:15.380 so it's not just the consumers that don't like these

00:24:17.780 it's the actual businesses themselves

00:24:20.100 Nigel

00:24:20.800 why

00:24:23.540 no Canada 0.99

00:24:24.540 no Canada maybe that would have been a better

00:24:27.180 maybe that's a better period title

00:24:28.800 no Canada 0.99

00:24:29.640 is it because

00:24:32.600 the reason we're not in it is because he's

00:24:35.600 already targeted us and kind of

00:24:38.280 got that trade war going

00:24:39.940 to maybe move the goalposts wherever it is

00:24:42.020 he's actually trying to go, who knows?

00:24:44.780 Or is it he's

00:24:46.120 trying to, as I

00:24:48.180 mentioned with Corey, you think he's trying

00:24:50.060 to un-meddle himself a bit

00:24:51.840 from the Canadian election to take a place?

00:24:53.680 Well, we don't know what passed between him

00:24:55.920 and Mark Carney when they had their famous

00:24:57.680 phone call there.

00:24:59.500 But I did notice that

00:25:01.340 and I

00:25:03.380 bring this forward

00:25:05.820 again, that Mr. Trump

00:25:08.120 said

00:25:09.900 that after the election he and mark carney would sort things out now i don't know what he knows

00:25:16.940 that we don't know about mr carney's chances but anyway that's what he said and i relate the lack

00:25:25.240 of interest in canada in this afternoon's announcements to some kind of agreement

00:25:31.900 perhaps between the two of them to just lay low for the period are you suggesting election

00:25:38.440 interference nigel yeah is this perhaps uh did they come to an agreement with what precisely

00:25:45.120 danielle smith said which is stay out of the election and keep the tariff stuff away until

00:25:49.120 we're done well you wouldn't possibly be implying that i couldn't possibly be implying it i could

00:25:54.620 be stating that right but uh at any rate you know when we say we don't really know what trump is up

00:26:01.400 to. I think there's such a word, such a sort of a cloud of flying words out there that it is hard

00:26:08.840 to pick it up. But he said a couple of things that make me think that there is a strategy going

00:26:14.080 on here and it is discernible. Trump is thinking back to 1941 when America was the arsenal of

00:26:20.600 democracy. Didn't matter what you wanted, they could make it. And they were a nation ready for

00:26:25.220 war. And when they joined the Second World War, that was the end for the Axis powers. It took a

00:26:30.820 few years but that was the moment when the world turned in favor of the of the western alliance

00:26:38.520 that's not how it is in america these days everything needs a computer chip they don't

00:26:46.760 make computer chips well they make a few but it you know their weapons depend on computer chips

00:26:53.380 Their cars depend on computer chips.

00:26:55.800 Ask me about it.

00:26:57.260 I got one.

00:26:59.320 He wants to make America what it was in 1941,

00:27:06.240 the country that is totally able to look after its own needs

00:27:11.420 in this day and age.

00:27:14.480 And that is the strategy behind bringing production

00:27:17.640 of motor vehicles into the lower 48.

00:27:21.140 it is the it is what justifies bringing in the chip plants from taiwan it is what he he quoted

00:27:29.860 a number this afternoon 90 000 factories have closed in the last 30 years i have no idea well

00:27:37.520 i wouldn't hold him to any of it but you know i i would on that one uh because you only got to

00:27:46.380 drive through some of the areas of the we call it the rust belt why do we call it the rust belt

00:27:51.380 is line after line block after block of uh of places where people were what's were working

00:27:57.640 and producing stuff that people other people bought but they aren't anymore well he's going

00:28:03.680 to change that i know uh who he uh he channeled in his talk today was uh franklin roosevelt so

00:28:10.800 that's a very good point and do you know what the most important strategic manufacturing item was

00:28:15.760 in 1941? Tell us, Sean. Vacuum tube. Yep. For military purposes. Every country wanted to be

00:28:23.160 self-sufficient in vacuum tubes so that they could put them in their radios and in their

00:28:26.260 operas. So I, you know, I missed all the flutter and the flying words. I do think that those

00:28:32.500 stand out. I think that's what the game is. So if you look at it that way, probably having Canada

00:28:37.880 handy and the motor plants just across the river, I mean, they'd rather have them south of the river,

00:28:43.580 but it's not going to be a sticking point in the end

00:28:45.960 because you can still get there

00:28:47.640 and Canada's not going to say no.

00:28:49.600 Well, you're just moving the factories across the river, right?

00:28:52.280 Well, you could, but you don't even have to

00:28:53.900 because if you really need them,

00:28:55.880 we know where they are.

00:28:57.480 That's what somebody, he's going to come up with that.

00:28:59.620 It's going to be his own idea.

00:29:00.920 He's going to, you know what?

00:29:01.980 We're just across the board.

00:29:03.360 Yeah.

00:29:03.840 All right.

00:29:06.540 I want to turn this episode of the pipeline towards pipelines.

00:29:10.420 so Mark Carney

00:29:14.200 has

00:29:15.360 when he was running for

00:29:18.200 liberal leader sounded much

00:29:20.320 more pragmatic

00:29:22.320 and less dogmatic than

00:29:24.180 Justin Trudeau on pipelines

00:29:25.540 anyone who's seen the

00:29:28.300 now famous map

00:29:30.220 cueing people

00:29:32.540 in that Alberta oil doesn't actually

00:29:34.380 go across Canada, it goes

00:29:35.960 into Saskatchewan, comes south, goes to the United

00:29:38.460 States and then up the Great Lakes

00:29:40.420 back into eastern canada uh so you can't really just shut it off and that proved to be uh not

00:29:46.940 just an economic problem in good times but to be quite the strategic conundrum when we're in trade

00:29:51.880 war so um and actually they turned out to be a bit lucky for alberta because the east can't turn

00:29:56.720 off the west soil because they'll be cutting them off for themselves well and the lake michigan 0.90

00:30:00.740 project uh the tunnel is being fast-tracked but the u.s arm army corps of engineers is becoming

00:30:05.500 a priority so um he started saying yeah you know what we need an east-west pipeline even through

00:30:13.080 quebec um and strongly implying i think after his meeting with alberta premier daniel smith

00:30:19.100 that he would uh revisit the no more so-called no more pipelines act and uh well he's he's

00:30:27.560 flipped on that in the last uh 24 hours hasn't he sean yes indeed he has yeah uh when he came

00:30:32.360 out of that meeting with premier smith he said i'm pragmatic i'm a pragmatic liberal but yet uh

00:30:38.660 even today while i was writing up the story i was telling cory like uh i i did a double take because

00:30:43.820 uh i was writing up about his brookfield uh pipeline buying up the largest gasoline pipeline

00:30:49.720 in the united states and then at the same time a questioner asked him about bill six c69 he said

00:30:55.500 no it's still on the table well you have c69 you don't have a pipeline west anyway and if you're

00:31:02.200 going to cave into the um whims of the party quebecois and go back and say no pipelines

00:31:08.020 crossing quebec even though that pipeline is already in the ground it just has to go from

00:31:12.020 montreal to saint john okay well then you've basically eliminated the prospect of pipelines

00:31:16.660 um cory this is a hell of a flip-flop um it's a pretty defining issue it was it was a very

00:31:26.820 important issue before all this went down now it seems like national economic and energy

00:31:31.960 suicide to want to keep the Nowhere Pipelines Act in place because there's not going to be an

00:31:39.680 Energy East or Energy East equivalent pipeline if that legislation is still in place. Where is he

00:31:46.040 going with this? He's lying. He's lying. In which direction? I don't think he wants that pipe. He's

00:31:51.300 still a net zero ideologue. He is making his money from, yeah, investing in pipelines in the United

00:31:56.640 States. He wants to win the election, so he will pander to Quebec. He will say he's pragmatic and

00:32:02.460 he'll get a pipeline across, but your average Canadian citizen also doesn't know that there is

00:32:07.320 not going to be a pipeline built across this country as long as C-69 exists. Go to Toronto

00:32:11.740 and ask your average citizen what C-69 is. They won't know what the heck it is, and they won't

00:32:17.460 know that it is what makes it impossible to get a pipeline across this country. Carney knows darn 0.96

00:32:22.580 well is that that legislation was crafted to end major uh energy infrastructure projects from

00:32:29.400 conventional oil and gas across the country that was the basis of it we knew that then trudeau

00:32:34.280 knew it then and we've been fighting it because of that ever since so for carney to come out

00:32:39.020 and say that he supports pipelines while he still supports c69 now i mean i guess he could be lying

00:32:45.800 about one of the table he's lying and uh he's not being called out on it either and that you know

00:32:49.920 Aside from outlets like us.

00:32:51.000 And that's the other frustrating thing in this.

00:32:52.360 You know, the irony for me is that, um, we're not even talking about the emissions cap, you know, the emissions slash production cap that he had to correct his own environmental minister to say that it wasn't a production cap when that's exactly what he said in the interview.

00:33:04.840 And then they went back and, you know, whatever, redacted it.

00:33:07.460 Right.

00:33:08.120 So now it's almost like we can live with an emissions cap, but how are we going to do it without a pipe?

00:33:14.180 So, Corey, to your point about people in the East don't know what Bill C-69 does,

00:33:21.780 so they don't know that it stops pipelines.

00:33:25.220 There's a lot of people, even out west, who don't realize that Bill C-69 does not only apply to pipelines.

00:33:33.700 A lot of projects.

00:33:34.540 You want to build a dock, you want to build a mine, the ring of fire, which Mr. Poliarev was talking about there.

00:33:43.020 All of that is subject to review through the agencies established under Bill C-69.

00:33:49.520 That bill is actually a national non-development legislation.

00:33:56.260 Keep things as they are.

00:33:57.580 Don't let anything move ahead unless the government itself wants it.

00:34:02.200 And that is why it's got to go.

00:34:04.720 It's not just because we don't like it out here.

00:34:07.840 If anybody in Ontario read that legislation and understood what it meant,

00:34:12.440 They would want it gone, too.

00:34:14.240 Absolutely.

00:34:14.800 And in Quebec.

00:34:15.560 Especially as a resource-based country.

00:34:17.680 I mean, we're a natural, you know, get over it.

00:34:19.920 That's something I think that the liberals just can't understand and won't accept.

00:34:23.220 We're not going to be a giant provider of finished products.

00:34:26.340 It can't happen.

00:34:27.220 We don't have the type of development for it.

00:34:29.040 We don't have the type of economy for it.

00:34:30.700 We're a resource-exporting country.

00:34:32.480 Gory, it's not that they don't understand.

00:34:35.080 They understand very well.

00:34:36.600 Like accepting it.

00:34:37.480 But they actually want it that way.

00:34:39.380 They want Canada to be one vast national park.

00:34:41.740 we'll call the alia navigable

00:34:44.300 water body

00:34:45.360 we were talking about that

00:34:47.840 Sean

00:34:48.760 Corey

00:34:51.420 made the point that

00:34:53.720 Carney is a fanatical

00:34:55.740 net zero guy

00:34:57.640 it's in his book

00:34:59.360 that's where he's at

00:35:00.620 he's hard to get this stuff

00:35:02.580 and he's going to keep in place the no more pipelines

00:35:05.820 act here

00:35:06.960 emissions slash production cap

00:35:09.600 a lot of these things

00:35:11.740 but his actions at Brookfield show that he's not so quite opposed to pipelines.

00:35:17.280 He's four pipelines, at least where they've been outside of Canada.

00:35:22.560 If you're a global warming crusader, it doesn't matter where the pipeline is.

00:35:30.040 Their pipeline's a pipeline, and oilwell's an oil well.

00:35:35.900 How does this drive?

00:35:36.940 Because he seems to be fine with them, at least outside of Canada, in Brookfield,

00:35:41.740 when it's his own financial uh when he has a financial stake in the game but as liberal leader

00:35:47.180 as prime minister he seems to be status quo no more pipeline well there's a very easy answer

00:35:52.480 to eric and it goes back to the creation of the limited liability corporation in england back in

00:35:58.200 whenever it was 1730 if you trade on stock exchange and you want to get rid of that liability

00:36:02.680 to be personally liable for destroying shareholder value it is as a director of a public company it

00:36:09.140 is your duty legal fiduciary duty to manage your investors money properly in a way that maximizes

00:36:18.700 their returns and so when he's the director of brookfield he's he has a legal obligation to

00:36:25.760 uh you know do due diligence and enhance shareholder value but i guess if you're the

00:36:32.500 prime minister of a so-called nation state sovereign one then i guess you're not held to

00:36:38.380 that standard and disrupt shareholder value destruction you know comes with the term i do

00:36:43.340 have to fact check you on one part though the the first corporation was in amsterdam yeah it was

00:36:48.180 the Dutch East Indies company where was the first stock market the bourse was that in amsterdam i'm

00:36:52.860 not sure if that was amsterdam anyway i don't know about i don't know if it was a limited library

00:36:56.100 corporation corporation with traditional shareholders was in uh was in amsterdam but

00:37:00.920 i think the limited liability corporation at the end i don't know anyway we'll have to get

00:37:04.860 Raging, we have Gilmore to check.

00:37:05.760 Yeah, we'll get Rachel Gilmore.

00:37:07.300 Okay.

00:37:10.140 Nigel,

00:37:11.280 it hasn't really caught a ton of attention yet

00:37:15.900 in the campaign, but

00:37:16.940 a lot of his activities at Brookfield

00:37:18.720 have become an issue.

00:37:21.280 It's gotten a little bit of attention in the legacy press,

00:37:23.180 but not a ton.

00:37:24.300 But he seems to have had no problem with pipelines,

00:37:27.340 at least outside of Canada,

00:37:29.060 when he's running Brookfield.

00:37:32.100 Seems to have a problem here now.

00:37:34.860 but only two weeks ago he seemed to be implying the Liberal Party was changing its position quite

00:37:39.180 definitively to be not maybe as gung-ho about pipelines as the Conservative Party but to drop

00:37:45.020 its more reactionary opposition to it. Well that's certainly what he tried to portray

00:37:53.180 because if you are a Liberal leader then you're looking for a fourth term after three disastrous

00:37:58.540 terms during which canada's gdp fell employment fell growth fell you're not going to go out and

00:38:05.260 say i've got these great programs that are going to destroy growth however that is in fact he has

00:38:11.820 not fundamentally changed his green interest he is fundamentally a climate change warrior

00:38:20.220 and the liberal party strategy has always been we're going to show the rest of the world that

00:38:25.900 that you can take a big country like Canada and make it net zero,

00:38:29.940 and that will be our contribution to showing the rest of the world how it's done

00:38:34.580 because it's all too important, you know, the climate and everything else.

00:38:39.380 What the actual financial angle to that might be,

00:38:43.060 the wealth transfer between North and South,

00:38:45.600 all the stuff you read about in the World Economic Forum,

00:38:48.620 the impoverishment of the people, owning nothing and being happy owning nothing,

00:38:53.180 that's a different, that's another story.

00:38:55.260 But Mr. Carney, I think, is committed to that vision of Canada as a net zero country, just to show that the rest of the rest of the world, that it can be done, and that we're the people to do it.

00:39:09.260 We liberals, we are the good guys.

00:39:11.380 We're not like those terrible Westerners who drive big pickups and are working all in the energy industry.

00:39:18.340 So that's why he's taken the tack that he's taken.

00:39:21.760 and he is in he is actively trying to deceive the public of canada that he is uh there for all of us

00:39:31.060 that we're going to promote industry you have to look at his words to ask what does he really mean

00:39:36.440 by industry what does he really mean by freedom what does he really mean by energy it's you see

00:39:42.720 i always saw him as more of a paul martin you know it was not at all all right all right well

00:39:48.160 we got to move to our parting shots now.

00:39:50.880 Let's start with you, Corey.

00:39:52.600 I just want to remind people, actually,

00:39:54.480 you know, for a change out of media,

00:39:56.060 a very serious issue.

00:39:56.940 It's very serious and it's gotten swept under the rug

00:39:58.780 with so many other issues going on in this election.

00:40:01.740 But that former Liberal candidate, Paul Chang,

00:40:05.640 calling, though, for people to turn in

00:40:07.980 the Conservative candidate

00:40:09.520 to the Chinese Communist Party for a bounty.

00:40:13.800 You can't understate how,

00:40:16.780 or you can't overstate you know how dangerous and insane that was even if it was offhand i mean

00:40:22.260 we've got the chinese dysphora population in canada where those threats are very real where 1.00

00:40:28.900 their families are being threatened by the chinese communist party overseas and the reticence that

00:40:35.440 kearney had in ejecting that candidate i mean that should have been something within seconds

00:40:40.940 you say okay whoa whoa whoa you're out the door that is not something you joke about

00:40:45.760 particularly as an elected official why did it take that much pressure and that much time

00:40:51.420 who was he answering to that he would be afraid of a backlash for rejecting somebody who said

00:40:56.260 something as horrific as that and we should be on this more but again it frightens me to think of

00:41:01.560 how quickly our legacy media who's ready to go to town and go loony as you said over uh somebody

00:41:08.840 saying biological clock well this happened and i mean this was prior to nomination deadline too

00:41:14.040 It's easy to get rid of a candidate at that point

00:41:16.580 It's one thing if you're three weeks into the election

00:41:18.460 You can't replace them

00:41:19.620 This just didn't make enough news

00:41:22.080 Yeah, and

00:41:22.840 The Conservatives have fired three candidates

00:41:26.400 In one day, one I think for

00:41:28.180 Sneezing out of turn, like they were firing

00:41:30.360 Them for some pretty minor stuff

00:41:32.440 I think the Conservatives were a bit too trigger happy

00:41:34.080 Totally minor good air to this

00:41:35.440 Yeah, they were a bit too trigger happy

00:41:37.360 Very concerning though was

00:41:39.420 I watched the video of this Liberal MP

00:41:42.160 Calling for this

00:41:43.800 uh was that the room applauded him and i you know i'm generally good with bringing in chinese

00:41:49.400 immigrants they actually make a pretty good immigrant population but uh i think we need 1.00

00:41:54.840 to screen a bit more for uh people who have who aren't you know finally chinese but not

00:42:00.740 sympathetic to the chinese communist party uh bringing more people from hong kong who want 0.95

00:42:05.700 no part of it but uh it was very concerning to see how many people in that room applauded well

00:42:10.020 and there was recent news of Canadian citizens being executed in China,

00:42:13.480 even if it was for drug offenses and so on.

00:42:15.340 But that's serious bloody business.

00:42:17.220 Okay, Nigel, you're parting shot.

00:42:19.480 Well, look, about every 10 minutes I get a text from a concerned conservative

00:42:24.200 that says, how can these polls be right?

00:42:26.180 How can Mr. Carney be, how can we be even with Mr. Carney?

00:42:30.600 Because Mr. Carney's meetings are like a tea party with your grandmother.

00:42:36.860 you know he'll fill off a pub or he'll have a couple of hundred people turn out and he makes

00:42:42.820 these dull boring speeches and you know a long drink of warm water is more interesting usually

00:42:49.260 and uh meanwhile pierre poliev i think his opening night was 2400 packing them into a hotel in

00:42:59.380 Toronto. Like that's not traditional strong conservative country. Was it 4,800? They had

00:43:07.360 to get a hanger in... That was like 6,400. 6,400. All right. Well, it was almost a hockey game.

00:43:14.580 Must have been looking at a liberal press release. At any rate, you know, doing it down.

00:43:19.240 Look, people are packing the auditoriums to hear what the conservative leader has got to say.

00:43:25.820 They are not packing even the pups to hear what the liberal leader has to say.

00:43:32.920 And if you can't get a crowd where there's beer on tap, my point, gentlemen, is simply this.

00:43:41.020 I do not trust those polls.

00:43:43.780 It's not reflected by what you see on the ground in the campaign.

00:43:48.420 All right. Parting shot from Sean.

00:43:50.860 Well, I'm going to take a slightly different tack from Nigel here,

00:43:53.420 And I'm going to say it's Mr. Polioff's dad jokes, you know, sweep the suites, build the house, tax the tax, you know, wash the clothes, pump the pooch.

00:44:04.520 You know, he's out yesterday standing out in a sale field in Prince Edward Island, and he's saying he's outstanding in his field.

00:44:12.320 Did you just say pump the pooch?

00:44:13.820 Yeah, we've got a running joke back here.

00:44:16.000 Put that one on the list there, production.

00:44:17.880 and then he answers reporters questions that way you know make canada great for change you know

00:44:24.600 like it's it's just all this canned thing and i think what's happening is the message is getting

00:44:29.080 lost in this constant blitz of slogans and he just keeps on adding new ones well she's getting lost

00:44:35.320 48 hundred people at a time it's a lot more like well we're talking on tv speaking of losing the

00:44:40.840 the plot uh i'm gonna talk a bit about uh rachel gilmore here uh her fired again uh this she

00:44:50.680 for global news uh she was fired because she was just wildly uncredible even by the standards of 1.00

00:45:00.280 the old legacy media you know lots of lefties in there but they most of them at least try to cloak

00:45:07.200 their language in at least a veil of neutrality you know is he like well is this misogynistic

00:45:15.580 should you say that is misogynistic like and and that's fine i'm a pit i'm not an objective

00:45:22.460 reporter we've got a we've got fair-minded even-handed reporters working here uh and they

00:45:28.060 do that as their job that's not my job that's certainly not her job but ctv hired her to be

00:45:33.680 exactly that in the most extreme form as the fact checker of CTV news for this election well she

00:45:40.400 had an introduction segment where she's introduced as the fact checker and she got immediately fired 0.99

00:45:45.420 because of the backlash and she said this was an attack on freedom of the press she attacked me and

00:45:51.100 Jen she said when we were uh denied entry in the so when you and Jen and uh James Snell other

00:45:59.760 western center reporters were denied the right to even enter a press conference from mark carney

00:46:04.580 and uh to its credit the um uh canadian association of journalists uh stood up and said

00:46:10.740 that's not good for press freedom it was a pretty mild statement but they gave a little spanking to 1.00

00:46:15.700 mark carney uh she says i'm tearing up my membership how dare you defend the right of

00:46:20.500 these people to go in and ask questions they have no right to be there uh as accredited journalists

00:46:25.380 uh so a bit hypocritical one of yeah item 10 000 of hypocrisy from this person uh so cory you had

00:46:34.460 a great show today you you showed some of the video of her crying uh you know leave rachel

00:46:39.520 gilmore alone kind of thing it was it was pretty delicious uh i'm looking at the clock i'm just

00:46:44.580 gonna sneak this one in real quick double parting shot uh the toronto star the brilliant guys of

00:46:50.580 the toronto star uh dug up some real dirt on peer polio and said that he big critic of mark

00:46:57.680 carney's brookfield in fact owns brookfield well when you read down towards the bottom of the

00:47:02.100 article uh he has investments on an index of which some of the dozens of companies on it

00:47:09.420 is brookfield so i said i scratched my head and said oh that's that's pretty funny and so i asked

00:47:16.040 You know, you and Jen look into this.

00:47:17.920 Turns out every single Canadian who's ever worked in a salary job or wage job in Canada also owns Brookfield.

00:47:24.340 Unless you live in Quebec.

00:47:25.340 Unless you live in Quebec, yeah.

00:47:26.800 Maybe even they do too.

00:47:27.720 We didn't check them.

00:47:28.260 But if you have any CPP, you own Brookfield.

00:47:32.460 And even better, we found, was it you, either you or Jen found, that Stephen Gilbeau, the radical environment minister of Justin Trudeau and now I think heritage minister again under Mark Carney.

00:47:46.040 He owns Suncor Oil Sands.

00:47:49.120 And Canadian Natural.

00:47:50.320 And Canadian Natural Resources.

00:47:51.680 Which is one of the biggest holdings of the CPP.

00:47:54.360 Yeah, but not just CPP.

00:47:56.560 Yeah, like he owns, by the definition of the Toronto Star,

00:48:00.220 saying pure polio owns some Brookfield.

00:48:02.520 Stephen Gilbeau owns some CNRL and Suncor.

00:48:06.620 So...

00:48:07.140 And Pemina Pipe, and Enbridge, and TC Energy.

00:48:10.960 That's very racist.

00:48:12.500 You gotta stop there.

00:48:13.100 okay enough misogyny and racism for today uh thank you all for joining us uh on this lovely

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