00:02:40.920Dave, you may remember, I look at a bit of a parallel.
00:02:43.180I mean, in how a premier can invoke cynicism among the electorate when they take an opportunistic stance with the late Jim Prentice, he had orchestrated that disastrous floor crossing that turned out to be with Premier Smith.
00:02:58.040I was actually a campaign manager in the remnants of the Wildrose Party and how battered and bruised we were at that time, but we still came forward and ran.
00:03:05.320But a lot of what I kind of got was the public was just so soured on the whole process in general, they voted for the NDP because it was a fresh, smiling face, and they were just sick of the rest of us.
00:03:16.920And you look at Eby's policies and everything, obviously, with the land claims and what have you.
00:03:21.000And I think the whole debacle with the conservatives kind of imploding there for a bit, I can't remember what the polls are, Alex, right now, but it looks like they have a very good chance of actually winning this because of Eby calling the election.
00:03:30.840So this whole thing might have just because EB basically just shot himself in the foot, possibly with this whole thing.
00:03:36.060And, you know, the Conservatives can come out of this actually possibly winning, despite it looking just, what, a few weeks ago, like they were just totally just imploding completely and utterly.
00:03:43.440And it's just so surreal, the whole thing every day.
00:03:46.160I just have no idea what to expect every single day.
00:03:49.260So there was an Angus re-poll that came out last week, or maybe it was earlier this week.
00:03:53.220It's hard to keep track of these things now, but it had the Conservatives up eight points.
00:03:57.220It was the first major national polling data since the rip drop.
00:04:01.480And then Leger actually came out with a poll as well this morning that had the conservatives up by three points, if I recall correctly.
00:04:06.740Yeah, that was the one I was thinking of, yeah.
00:04:08.640Yeah, it's a very hard argument to make that, you know, the conservatives may be in a bit of a mess, but that's no reason to vote for the NDP.
00:04:19.340You know, because the NDP has a terrible record of government for the last four years, and you have to say almost anything's better than what Mr. Eby is doing, because you know what he's doing, and you know the direction he's going, and if you don't like it, well, at the very least, you would vote for somebody else just to get him off that rail.
00:04:43.340Well, if your day seems up with enough candidates, though, you could still end up putting the NDP in, even if everybody's tired of all of them.
00:04:49.780So, Alex, some of the trying to keep track of the candidates coming, the candidates going, trying to rush, I guess, nominations or putting people in so they aren't stepping on each other's feet.
00:05:08.920I'm not at liberty to say who at this point.
00:05:10.920They said originally that they had 93 candidates, one for each riding, but they have since said that they will not run in eight particular ridings against what they call principled conservatives.
00:05:21.500They tend to be Carrie Lynn Finley loyalists.
00:05:24.700So that's a very interesting ideological line in the sand.
00:05:29.400OK, well, and then 1BC is not going to get a slate together large enough, I guess, you know, to contest for government.
00:05:37.300So, I mean, the position they're in is running for opposition.
00:05:39.980That kind of puts you in a weak spot when you go to the polls anyways.
00:05:44.720I think that the bigger vote split threat, though, at this point, at least based off of the Leger poll that came out this morning, is on the left.
00:05:51.380So the Green Party is polling at around 13%, if I remember correctly.
00:05:55.100So they seem to be cannibalizing significantly the NDP vote share.
00:05:59.720They are likely to run as little or as few candidates as 1BC, however.
00:06:04.360So it remains to be seen how much of an impact they'll have.
00:06:08.060that's quite something i mean you know what do you think nigel though can the conservatives hold0.81
00:06:14.260it together for another four weeks yes i think they can i mean the motivation to do so is extreme
00:06:20.000now i realize we we principled conservatives can always find an excuse to differ with each other
00:06:26.180but well maybe i've been out of bc too long to really know for sure but it does seem that the
00:08:45.820Now, maybe he's trying the same thing,
00:08:47.160but I don't know if he's been getting the same result.
00:08:49.340It doesn't seem like that. I don't really know what EB is going to do to blame anything on Trump, like his health care problems and health care costs in B.C. Trump's fault. It's even the same with Carney. I've never understood how people can look at how it's Trump's fault that everything has gone bad in the last decade in Canada. Is it Trump that was responsible for our immigration laws and policies? No.
00:09:07.920is he responsible for any of the health care costs or anything no or the spending or the debt no so
00:09:11.540it's it seems overall that basically just well so far the media in the last few years and whatnot
00:09:17.960with eb and carney is basically just really somehow managed to get everyone on their sides
00:09:22.580without them really doing anything but i think in eb's case especially with the whole land claim
00:09:26.100thing just putting everything up in the air in bc i think that's really going to come and backfire
00:09:30.360on him and basically at the same time like we were saying earlier can the conservatives
00:10:01.840And it's, I don't know, maybe I'm going back a little bit too far.
00:10:06.140But in 2024, one of the reasons the conservatives were as successful as they were, depending on how you do the math, they were either between one and three seats of winning the election, was they were riding on the magic carpet of Justin Trudeau's profound unpopularity.
00:10:19.960And actually, Pierre Polyev was quite popular.
00:10:21.820The story I love to tell is somebody was saying that they were door knocking for the BC conservatives in 2024.
00:10:27.400And it was actually a common response.
00:10:29.640people would say well i hate trudeau and i love paul yeah so i'll absolutely vote for you and then
00:10:33.660the two door knockers would look at each other they say should we tell them we're a different
00:10:37.080level of government and they said no forget it they said they're voting for us so what's awesome
00:10:42.840like very very strange for me and a little bit surreal is that there seems to now be a decoupling
00:10:47.900of perception between the federal conservatives and the provincial conservatives so this election
00:10:52.140is a little bit different i'm not entirely sure why well that's but just to a weirdness though
00:10:58.100you used to have liberals and liberals too yeah absolutely and just to piggyback off of david's
00:11:02.720point about the whole donald trump thing i i don't know why i'm giving so much credit to cbc
00:11:07.740journalists clearly i'm too busy and i've lost my mind but mo amir who's another i think talented
00:11:13.340journalist with the cbc he said that carney owns the trump file david eby is just renting it
00:11:18.580and i think that that's actually a really smart way of looking at it because when you think about
00:11:22.380it and in terms of dollars and cents i mean the federal government is the level of government
00:14:58.260They do have some support, however, at the ground level.
00:15:00.260Their names are Jeremy Calicum and Aris Nix.
00:15:03.140I would describe Calicum as profoundly normal and Aris Nix as profoundly abnormal.
00:15:07.260and basically what they decided, I can get into a little bit of the human element of this because
00:15:12.720I think it's relevant. Calicum was a chemist by trade and he had a PhD if I'm not mistaken
00:15:18.360and he had a friend or family member who was a cocaine addict and so he came up with the idea
00:15:26.280to buy and procure cocaine off of the dark web and then test it for purity so that he could provide
00:15:31.180it to this individual so that they wouldn't overdose on fentanyl and benzodiazepines cut
00:15:35.900into the cocaine. And he was so successful at this that I believe this Eris Nix individual
00:15:41.660approached him and said, why don't we do this en masse? And so they went to the provincial0.98
00:15:45.660government and they said, we would like to procure cocaine, heroin, and crystal meth off of the dark
00:15:51.020web, test it for purity, and then sell it at cost at the downtown east side. And the provincial
00:15:55.300government said, we think this is a great idea. So they gave them $200,000 and three tranches of
00:16:00.520funding to do this. And they also, I'm referring to Dolphin again, they went to the Vancouver
00:16:05.940Police Department and presented them with a PowerPoint presentation explaining what they
00:16:10.460were going to do. They were completely above board. They didn't want to get in trouble.
00:16:14.400But then ironically, the provincial government, after an Economist article created a social uproar
00:16:19.080over their project, they were shut down by the Vancouver Police Department. And these two
00:16:23.420individuals were charged on three counts each for trafficking the cocaine, heroin and crystal meth.
00:16:29.820Now, of course, because they did everything above board, the judge had no choice really but to declare them guilty of the crime.
00:16:35.620But then they did what they call a charter challenge in the B.C. Supreme Court.
00:16:41.120And they challenged their convictions on these three counts of drug trafficking on account of two charter infringements.
00:16:47.520The first charter infringement is on Section 7, which is Canadians' right to life, liberty and security of person.
00:16:53.360So they said that depriving drug addicts of the right to clean drugs and pretested drugs is an abridgment of that right.
00:16:58.840And they also challenged it under Section 15 of the Charter, which protects Canadians against unfair discrimination, in this case on the basis of disability, with the disability being severe substance abuse disorder.
00:17:12.820So essentially, though, they have ruled now that there's a charter right to, quote unquote, and I put that in quotes, clean street drugs.
00:17:20.400I mean, is there really such a thing as clean meth or fentanyl for you?
00:17:23.900I understand in medically controlled environments, you can apply fentanyl.
00:17:27.980I mean, it helped me through my colonoscopy magnificently.
00:17:30.260But, you know, there's no safe street application of these drugs.
00:17:34.660No, and the unfortunate thing about it, there's a number of unfortunate things about it.
00:17:39.280But if they are buying off the dark web, they are buying from the same people who are creating the problem in the first place.
00:17:49.300I mean, where do you think this stuff comes from?
00:17:53.900So, first of all, they're going to have a constant quality control problem,
00:17:58.920and fair enough, they can probably manage that.
00:18:01.520But you're supporting the people who are trying to kill you.
00:18:08.080You know, with this, it makes no logical sense.
00:18:13.640And the right to security of the person can be met a different way.
00:18:19.760You can do what Alberta does and try to root people into treatment.
00:19:18.680And number two, if they received the drugs and the drugs were not of a sufficient purity level, they could go back to the seller and get a refund.
00:19:26.620Well, you know, price guarantees, that's a sense, I guess.
00:19:30.020I mean, I believe in that world, getting a refund usually involves having to go to their place with a shotgun.
00:19:36.100Yeah, and I hate to be pedantic about this, but when it comes to the law, I think it's important to be precise.
00:19:42.020So the judge did not say that there is a constitutional right to drug trafficking.
00:19:46.020What she did say, however, is that Section 5.2 of the Controlled Drug and Substance Act
00:19:59.280So one of the failures or one of the shortcomings, I guess you could say, of safe supply, if
00:20:04.220you even accept that term, is that the potency of fentanyl is so high as compared to the
00:20:09.980potency of a drug like Dilaudid that the drug addicts just don't even want the Dilaudid.
00:20:14.480They just end up selling it on the street so that they can buy fentanyl.
00:20:18.000So Dolph was meant to kind of bridge a gap between the high potency fentanyl and the low potency pharmaceutical grade heroin is what I call it.
00:20:25.540And so that bridging of the gap was street heroin pretested to ensure that they didn't die of a fentanyl overdose from doing too much of the heroin.
00:20:33.340And apparently the judge found this very persuasive and she approved.
00:20:36.500You know, I'm prepared to accept, Alex, that these gentlemen were motivated by the best of intentions, but in the end, it is still a breach of the law, and it's not a breach of the law that has to happen in order for somebody to receive justice.
00:27:28.920And I'm not faulting those individuals.
00:27:30.540They may be genuinely motivated by compassion, as they claim.
00:27:34.040I mean, different strokes for different folks, but in the end, it's not a good thing to make it easier for people to get drugs where they're very pure or adulterated.
00:29:56.600If a person can be proven that they're going to hurt themselves or others, they can be taken and held because of that risk.
00:30:03.600Even if they haven't committed a crime, applying the same logic to the person addicted.
00:30:08.460If a person is standing out there stabbing themselves with a knife, they're going to be taken and restrained and moved away from it.
00:30:14.100But if they're smoking that deadly substance in a glass pipe, we're saying, let's get you a better pipe so you don't burn your lips while you're at it.
00:31:50.760in the same decade as we were having this confrontation over supposed aboriginal graves
00:32:01.160now i say supposed because nobody has actually come up with a grave containing bones that can
00:32:10.440be identified as being a student at a residential school and say we didn't know about that this is
00:32:16.840actually a crime scene. Well, that is the thing. Because we haven't looked, we don't
00:32:24.880have the evidence, and so people like myself will say, if this happened the
00:32:30.820way it has been described and portrayed and represented to the Truth and
00:32:36.640Reconciliation Commission in Ottawa, then this is a grievous sin. But nobody
00:32:46.780has actually produced the evidence, the literal evidence, the bones, and the evidence that has
00:32:54.980been delivered orally has not been cross-examined. Those who strongly believe in this narrative will
00:33:03.540say that would be just re-victimizing people. If you make them defend their point of view,
00:33:08.700you should accept it for just what they say. But then there's a lot of money riding on this.
00:33:14.860And because there is a lot of money riding on it, everybody should be that much more sensitive to the need to be absolutely sure about the truth.
00:33:27.520And at the moment, you have oral evidence, and that's it.
00:33:33.380Somebody says that somebody did something.
00:33:36.460Some of the proponents of this, there's a former defrocked United Church minister who asserts with great conviction that certain atrocious things happen.
00:35:49.880Yeah, but the thing that I find very odd is just how rabid the people are that believe that there were all these mass graves and there was like a mass genocide going on.
00:35:58.600Like we've seen so many like just recent examples.
00:36:01.180I mean, once again, I think yesterday, Frances Woodowson was at the U of Vic and she was obviously there talking about residential schools and whatnot.
00:36:09.540And a bunch of, you know, protesters, team counter protest and whatnot were yelling at her.
00:36:13.540And I guess apparently her cameraman got assaulted again.
00:36:15.860I think that's the second or third time that's happened.
00:36:18.200And then also yesterday, Tom Flanagan, who was a former professor of the U of C, political science, I think.
00:36:24.060Was he an advisor or aide to Stephen Harper?
00:36:34.080By all accounts, it was pretty civil for the most part.
00:36:36.260But then some student, we don't really know if it was a he or she or whatnot, came up and dumped a whole thing of water on Tom Flanagan's head.
00:36:42.800And then got, you know, just detained.
00:36:44.660And apparently he's going to be charged with assault.
00:36:46.120But it just seems to me how these people can believe something so much when there is zero evidence that there were any of these mass graves, like mass psychosis almost.
00:36:55.980The exaggerations are being entrenched through other means.
00:37:00.280There's something that just horrified me with a drama, a Canadian-made TV series.
00:37:04.580I can't remember the name of it, but it was like a detective series based in eastern Canada.
00:37:09.500And one of the situations showed this abandoned building, and they'd gone into the basement, and here down there is an electric chair.
00:37:15.600And this was allegedly an old residential school site and the electric chair was down there because they used to strap children into it and electrocute and torture them in it.
00:37:25.200This was in a TV show and then it was just left as fact.
00:37:28.680Apparently this chair has been sitting in the, you know, residential school for the last 60 years, you know, as a testament to, it was just bizarre.
00:37:36.000But again, you see, if you're a viewer who doesn't look deeply into things or a younger one and so on, you take these things as fact.
00:37:42.520I mean, I think that was based on one of those oral testimonies, again, that they'd made a claim and had absolutely no edits up.
00:37:48.980But we have modern media or, you know, whatever you would call it, the arts and so on, just entrenching this further.
00:37:58.440And it's, if people believe that, I can understand why you get so upset.
00:38:02.200Holy cow, we've had this culture torturing children.
00:38:04.360I mean, we've heard the stories about them throwing them in ovens and hanging them from meat hooks.
00:38:07.680And again, none of it ever with any evidence.
00:38:10.700And the people who do question it, they get the treatment like Francis Whitteson or Thomas Flanagan.
00:38:16.400Look at what we were talking about earlier when I said, like, you've watched the CBC today.
00:38:19.600It's been nothing but wall-to-wall propaganda 24-7 since I turned it on this morning.
00:38:24.080And like I was telling you earlier, they had a reporter with a bunch of these kids.
00:38:27.620They were playing a board game to teach them about truth and reconciliation.
00:38:31.180And I'm sitting there going, like, this is just pure propaganda.
00:43:43.040Well, read a little more, did the background work on it.
00:43:46.940And it turns out that ultimately, you can trace this back to Mr. Trudeau again, through the, it was him who insisted on adding that to the Canadian as a prohibited form of discrimination under the Canadian Human Rights Act.
00:44:05.740So in order to provide for an equitable workplace,
00:44:10.100large companies which are regulated by the federal government
00:44:13.000have to give employees the option to say
00:44:17.260whether they are this, that, or the other thing.
00:44:45.180I'll just close quickly with Mark Carney.
00:44:49.140Sounds like it might be a favorite for the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:44:51.820Yeah, welcome to the politics of the world today.
00:44:54.100A prize that was built, I think, with the best of intentions to really recognize somebody who changed the world for the better and made things more peaceful, presumably.
00:45:02.580Mark Carney, who has a list of accomplishments.
00:45:05.940Oh, I was going to say something awful there.