Western Standard - March 10, 2023


OE： Is Trudeau loyal to Canada, the Liberal Party or China？


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China bought a minority government for Justin Trudeau in 2021, but did he know about it? And did he stand up to China's political interference in our election campaign? Or did he do nothing about it at all?

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00:00:00.000 Well, welcome back to another episode of Ottawa Exposed.
00:00:12.860 I'm David Creighton, the Senior Parliamentary Columnist for the Western Standard.
00:00:17.860 Very happy to be back here.
00:00:19.120 What a week we've had here in Ottawa.
00:00:21.740 And it's pretty cold outside because we're still dealing with that Ottawa winter,
00:00:27.520 but it's pretty hot inside the House of Commons.
00:00:30.940 The temperature's rising there
00:00:32.140 because Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is still admired
00:00:36.700 in a very big scandal,
00:00:40.280 the China political election interference scandal.
00:00:45.460 That's what it is.
00:00:47.240 And it's increasingly looking like
00:00:49.180 not only did China buy a minority government
00:00:53.100 for Justin Trudeau in 2021,
00:00:55.440 won, but that Justin Trudeau knew all about the Chinese funding. He knew all about the fact that
00:01:05.080 China was targeting, identifying friendly candidates, liberal candidates. And Justin
00:01:11.580 Trudeau apparently stood by and did nothing because it was going to benefit the Liberal Party
00:01:17.260 and not necessarily Canada. So what happened yesterday in question period? Well, we were back
00:01:24.960 after quite a break, actually,
00:01:28.600 even though the House
00:01:29.640 was sitting Monday, Tuesday,
00:01:30.500 things really got exciting yesterday
00:01:32.960 as opposition leader
00:01:35.080 Pierre Polyev stood up in the House
00:01:37.980 to ask the first question
00:01:39.340 of the prime minister.
00:01:41.120 And we're going to be seeing
00:01:42.560 that exchange in a minute.
00:01:45.160 But let me tell you,
00:01:46.380 Polyev has rarely been better
00:01:48.560 in sparring with the prime minister.
00:01:50.880 This was very effective stuff,
00:01:52.620 extremely effective.
00:01:54.560 And Justin Trudeau is, quite frankly, running scared.
00:01:59.620 He set up all of these committees, groups that are going to look into,
00:02:05.240 apparently look into the election interference by China,
00:02:10.400 but he is not committing himself to a public inquiry.
00:02:14.180 Why? Because these other committees, these other groups,
00:02:17.640 all they're going to do is meet in secret and report the information directly to the prime
00:02:25.820 minister's office and that information can be tampered with and redacted it's not going to be
00:02:30.480 a public inquiry it's going to be a private inquiry and this is exactly what a number of
00:02:37.520 conservative conservative mps have been talking about this week and polyev was talking about it
00:02:43.580 yesterday. But you know, Justin Trudeau has walked through innumerable scandals while he's
00:02:50.840 been prime minister. He strutted through the SNC-Lavalin scandal like it was nothing at all
00:02:56.300 throwing other liberal cabinet ministers under the bus or the liberal machine.
00:03:03.600 What about the WE charity? No big deal to Justin Trudeau. You know, he's a generous guy.
00:03:11.380 And if it's a charity, what could be wrong about that?
00:03:14.720 In his personal life, you know, there was that old sexual assault charge
00:03:19.280 dating back to the early days before Trudeau was even in politics.
00:03:27.480 He brushed that one aside, saying that the woman in question
00:03:30.980 just didn't see things the way he did.
00:03:33.980 And somehow, the guy who calls everybody racist, 0.94
00:03:37.580 who thinks we live in a racist country of white supremacists 0.98
00:03:41.680 somehow survived the blackface scandal. 0.87
00:03:44.760 He walked through that one too, smiling away,
00:03:48.420 a little bit repentant at the start,
00:03:50.640 but suggesting, hey, it's because I grew up in a racist city like Montreal.
00:03:56.320 It's not my fault, it's their fault.
00:03:59.260 And yet he still continues to call his opponents racist.
00:04:02.720 But there's something about this Chinese scandal, 0.99
00:04:05.740 this interference this political interference about buying elections that's sticking to mr
00:04:12.140 teflon trudeau's not walking away from this one and i tell you he's going to get increasing
00:04:18.940 questions and he's being shown to be a man who did have the facts at his disposal who did know
00:04:28.380 and he's being very reluctant to share that information so i want to show you this clip
00:04:32.300 i think it's fantastic it's from question period on march the 8th that was yesterday as i record
00:04:40.860 this and it's quite interesting position he's not interested in protecting the safety of the people
00:04:46.700 serving this country he's interested in protecting the liberal party of canada the question the
00:04:53.180 question was how much his party got in illegal donations funneled from beijing i've asked the
00:05:00.940 the question twice now. He refuses to answer it. He distracts and now claims that he can't
00:05:06.940 tell it because it would harm national security. Give me a break. It would harm his political
00:05:11.640 career. Why does he tell us how much the Liberal Party or its various arms received in money
00:05:16.480 from Beijing, how much?
00:05:17.480 Honourable Prime Minister.
00:05:23.480 Mr. Speaker, it is unfortunate and despicable that any member in this House would question
00:05:31.760 the loyalty to Canada of any other member in this House.
00:05:36.240 I understand the very real concerns that Canadians feel about foreign interference, and that's
00:05:43.720 we've created mechanisms to keep Canadians safe. But to suggest that anyone in this House
00:05:49.000 isn't devoted to serving Canadians and keeping those who serve Canada in dangerous positions 0.52
00:05:54.920 safe, safe is quite disgusting. The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:06:00.680 Mr. Speaker, no drama lesson will distract from the question that I asked.
00:06:06.440 The question was very clear. How much did the Liberal Party get in donations directed from
00:06:12.680 beijing i've asked it multiple times i find it incredible that he can't stand up and answer with
00:06:18.680 a zero i mean if he knows for sure it didn't happen he's not been briefed to the contrary
00:06:24.440 he would say so right now but he's dodging the question he's trying to engage in a drama dramatic
00:06:30.440 distraction so i will give him one more chance answer the question how much money did his party
00:06:35.720 get from the dictatorship in Bing.
00:06:37.220 The Honourable Prime Minister. 0.60
00:06:41.660 Speaker, I see the Leader of the Opposition trying to backtrack from his heinous and disgusting
00:06:48.220 accusations of disloyalty to Canada of anyone in this House, and I'm pleased to see him
00:06:53.920 back off from what was an absolutely despicable partisan approach.
00:06:58.680 But it does go to the point that Canadians need to have confidence that the answers that
00:07:04.920 they are seeking on foreign interference and on the integrity of our democratic institutions
00:07:09.220 are being dealt with by experts. Now, there's two ways of doing that. One is by making sure
00:07:14.800 the partisans and politicians of all parties get classified briefings on that, which the
00:07:20.660 NSI COP does, and the other is to make sure independent experts. The Honorable.
00:07:26.340 Pretty good stuff. I haven't seen a question period like that in quite a while. Mr. Paliyev
00:07:33.160 refers to drama well that's pretty high drama but that's trudeau he's being the drama teacher again
00:07:39.240 isn't he not being a prime minister he's being the drama teacher again and this is this is all
00:07:43.480 nonsense so so what does trudeau want to do he doesn't want a public inquiry i have to laugh at
00:07:49.320 this he he wants something called an independent special rapporteur now when's the last time you
00:07:56.920 heard that that description for a public inquiry have you ever even heard of a independent special
00:08:04.920 rapporteur not something we usually bandy about on the hill but trudeau was talking about that
00:08:11.160 and i want to go to my next column that we're talking about today and this was a fantastic
00:08:15.880 based on a fantastic interview i did with mp michael cooper the conservative mp for st albert
00:08:23.240 edmonton and he is uh he has been a leading mp in terms of going after answers on what trudeau knew
00:08:35.080 and when he knew it isn't it interesting we're using that phrase again where does that phrase
00:08:40.120 really come from in recent memory or at least recent history watergate we talked about what
00:08:46.680 did president nixon know and when did he know it that was used almost every day during the water
00:08:50.680 Watergate hearings in 1973. We're hearing that again. But I was really impressed with Mr. Cooper,
00:08:57.280 who I've actually known for about 20 years. I knew Michael before he was an MP. He was always
00:09:02.940 a dedicated guy who assiduously went after answers and was a good researcher. But he said
00:09:11.300 about this Trudeau's idea of appointing this rapporteur, he says, it's a complete smokescreen.
00:09:20.680 You know, it's the opposite of what CSIS, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, wanted.
00:09:26.600 They wanted the breath of fresh air to move in here to see what's going on, but not things done in secrecy.
00:09:32.340 I mean, this is a huge problem.
00:09:35.240 And so I'd like to show a very brief clip from that interview, because I think it's worthwhile to see what exactly Cooper's getting at here.
00:09:45.460 Now, Michael, as I was preparing this interview, the news never stops.
00:09:50.060 I understand that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has said he does not want a public inquiry, says he's willing to tolerate something called a special rapporteur.
00:10:03.040 Does anyone even know what that is?
00:10:06.240 It's someone who's going to appoint a report back to the prime minister.
00:10:10.360 And then what he has also announced is that NSACOP, which is a committee comprised of members of parliament and senators, but that is not a parliamentary committee, that does not have the powers of parliamentary committees, including compelling witnesses, that meets in secret and that prepares a report that is redacted by the PMO
00:10:38.060 to be tasked with getting to the bottom of Beijing's interference in the last two elections.
00:10:45.920 It is a complete smokescreen.
00:10:48.420 It is the opposite of what CSIS has called on the prime minister to do in the face of interference,
00:10:55.700 and that is to provide sunshine and transparency.
00:11:00.060 What he wants to do is bury it in a committee that meets behind closed doors
00:11:05.420 And that, again, significantly, that it is the PMO that ultimately redacts the report, even though I would submit, given what we know, the prime minister is in a conflict in this matter.
00:11:16.980 There are real questions about what he knew, when he knew it, and what he failed to do in the face of Beijing's interference in the last two federal elections that took place under his watch as prime minister.
00:11:29.980 so there we have it and uh michael cooper does indeed talk about what did trudeau know when
00:11:38.860 he knew it and why didn't he do anything about it this is really the questions we need answers
00:11:45.420 and you know there's rumors abounding right now on the hill in fact conservative mp michelle
00:11:53.420 rempel garner has been talking about this quite a bit all week that trudeau is going to prorogue
00:11:58.540 the parliament. In other words, shut it down for an indefinite period of time because things are
00:12:04.060 getting a little too hot for him. Would he do that? You bet he would, but I hope he doesn't. I hope
00:12:11.260 there's a shred of decency left in this man that will allow the truth to emerge, but I'm not sure
00:12:19.660 that's going to happen. Now, one thing Cooper wants to hear is he wants the Prime Minister's
00:12:26.380 chief of staff katie telford to appear before the committee that cooper is is working on right now
00:12:34.860 uh the proc committee that is looking into chinese interference he wants katie telford to appear
00:12:39.900 and he wants her to answer some questions because last week we heard from the privy council office
00:12:46.220 national security advisor which i didn't even know we had but uh jody thomas was testifying in front 1.00
00:12:53.260 of that committee and cooper asked her some very pertinent questions and the national security
00:12:59.820 advisor said yes trudo trudeau had been briefed multiple times so let's hear the same information
00:13:08.540 from katie telford his chief of staff let's find out what's going on here anyway i've got to move
00:13:14.860 on from china but believe me this story is going to continue to unravel because there's lots of
00:13:21.580 information here and i want to move to another world story or u.s story you might recall i
00:13:29.740 recently interviewed the legendary seymour hirsch the investigative journalist who has been
00:13:36.460 responsible for some of the biggest political exposés and military exposés over the last 50
00:13:43.180 years. Anyway, we had a fantastic conversation, but I spoke to Cy Hirsch yesterday after a report
00:13:52.220 came out this week. Somewhere from the White House, it was an official source or official sources
00:14:03.340 from somewhere, presumably in the State Department or the White House, but the New York Times,
00:14:09.820 which got the story, wouldn't say exactly who they were. But the Times reported that, you know,
00:14:17.820 remember that Nord Stream pipeline explosion that Seymour Hersh said Joe Biden was behind,
00:14:23.980 that the United States blew it up in order to keep Europe on side in the war against Russia,
00:14:32.060 to keep them backing Ukraine? Well, we finally heard a real response from the White House,
00:14:39.420 and I'm sure it was the White House who said this, and that it was, guess what, a pro-Ukrainian
00:14:46.140 group. Now, what does that mean? That can mean, well, just about anything. In fact,
00:14:50.860 a pro-Ukrainian group could mean the State Department. It could mean Joe Biden's cabinet.
00:14:57.260 It could mean the White House because they're a pro-Ukrainian group. But we're supposed to 0.99
00:15:02.060 believe that a bunch of people were on a yacht, they dove off the yacht, they went down,
00:15:08.220 and they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. Now, as Seymour Hersh was reminding me,
00:15:16.300 and I'm ex-military, and I actually knew a diver who lost her life doing this kind of dangerous
00:15:23.020 work. Seymour Hersh told me yesterday that you have to train and train for this kind of mission.
00:15:30.620 You don't just jump off a yacht, go down to the bottom of the Baltic Sea, plant explosives,
00:15:37.180 and get the heck out of there no it's a difficult operation that is something navy seals or the u.s
00:15:45.020 navy divers have to do that this is not an easy task and for them to say oh yeah yeah this pro
00:15:52.460 ukrainian group just got off their yacht went down to the bottom of the sea and did the job 1.00
00:15:58.460 hirsch was laughing i mean literally laughing at this because he said he was getting all kinds of
00:16:05.100 media calls when this report came out, and he was telling people, well, I always thought Ethiopia or
00:16:10.280 Somalia did it. That's how ludicrous this explanation is. This report is just plain
00:16:16.080 fantasy. So that's for that story. That continues to unravel in the face of Joe Biden, by the way.
00:16:24.020 And I want to move to another story closer to home. I found this hard to believe that the
00:16:30.680 The Department of National Defense slash Canadian Armed Forces
00:16:34.180 is shoving something called an anti-racism toolkit
00:16:39.020 in the faces and down the throats 0.94
00:16:41.660 of our men and women in uniform.
00:16:43.820 Now, don't they have better things to do
00:16:46.040 than naval gaze about white supremacy and racism? 0.76
00:16:49.580 Yeah, I'm sure you can find a white supremacy or a racist
00:16:52.240 if you look hard enough under every bed in the military,
00:16:55.440 but the military's not there to do that.
00:16:57.380 The military is there to defend Canada
00:16:59.520 maintain our collective defense and security agreements. That means NORAD, it means NATO,
00:17:05.600 it means defending the continent of North America and defending Canada.
00:17:11.440 The military should not be a laboratory for social experimentation. But guess what?
00:17:17.600 It's absolutely incredible some of the questions they're asking here.
00:17:21.360 And I remember when I was in the military as a public affairs officer, we used to always have
00:17:24.640 have to deal with quotas how how it was nice to have quotas but it this is what really makes me
00:17:32.320 mad about this though i mean according to this anti-racism toolkit people who are racist do not
00:17:38.320 believe in equality of all persons or believe in equality but not equity for example do not support
00:17:44.800 reconciliation efforts so if you don't support trudeau's reconciliation you're racist furthermore
00:17:49.760 people who are racist deny the existence of unconscious bias and refuse to engage
00:17:59.920 in self-reflection and education to address their own biases and racially. So in other words,
00:18:07.520 if I don't believe I'm racist, I'm racist. Now this kind of garbage, sewage water does not belong 0.99
00:18:14.580 in the military get rid of it please we do not need this kind of indoctrination critical race 1.00
00:18:22.200 theory you know which teaches that there's victims and there's winners in society and if you're white
00:18:28.040 you're a winner if you're not white you're a loser and you're you're you're part you're part of a 0.99
00:18:34.100 slave under class slave class this is absolute nonsense and this anti-racism toolkit says that 1.00
00:18:43.780 should not be colorblind let me tell you that was the foundation of martin luther king
00:18:49.540 when he fought racism in the integrated or the non-integrated the segregated south he talked
00:18:58.420 about the need to be colorblind to judge people on the basis of their characters not on the color
00:19:04.180 of their skin that's what colorblind mean and that's where we've got to get back to 0.99
00:19:07.780 you not these idiotic ideas of white fragility and white privilege and and critical race theory 0.99
00:19:16.660 it's all nonsense and it doesn't belong in the military now quickly i want to go to my my last 1.00
00:19:21.460 item here talking about racial bias the prime minister is not content to call everybody he
00:19:30.420 doesn't agree with a racist he likes to push racist theories and he says the next it would
00:19:37.300 be a great idea if the next commissioner of the RCMP were an indigenous person. I have no problem
00:19:44.060 with an indigenous person being an RCMP commissioner if that person is qualified first.
00:19:49.960 You don't hire somebody on the basis of their race or their skin color or ethnicity. You hire
00:19:56.080 them if they're the best person to do the job. And that's what we have to remember. And this is what
00:20:03.260 Trudeau forgets right away that we don't hire people on the basis of their race or ethnicity
00:20:10.540 or even their gender. We hire people, male or female, black or white, on the basis of their
00:20:17.920 competence and their ability to do the job. That is what should qualify somebody to be the next
00:20:26.400 RCMP commissioner. But believe me, that's not what Trudeau is thinking of. He never misses
00:20:32.780 an opportunity never misses a beat that promote his fetid idea of identity politics that is what
00:20:41.460 drives the man and he thinks it's what the key to the liberals winning another election i don't know
00:20:49.240 if justin trudeau is going to even be the leader of the liberal party and in the next election
00:20:55.780 He is being completely subsumed and consumed by this Chinese election interference scandal, and he is on the run.
00:21:06.600 So look for diversion after diversion coming from the prime minister.
00:21:11.100 You know, I'm not keen on the way the opposition is talking about Beijing, Beijing, Beijing, Beijing instead of China.
00:21:18.160 But I understand why they're doing it.
00:21:20.100 Because as soon as you say China, here creeps in Justin Trudeau to say, oh, you're saying China because you don't like Chinese people or you don't like Chinese Canadians.
00:21:32.500 You have a bias or a racial bias against Asian Canadians.
00:21:39.100 So that's why the opposition is saying Beijing, Beijing, Beijing.
00:21:43.280 I'm not going to say that because I don't care what Trudeau wants to imagine about me
00:21:48.340 or call what kind of names he wants to call me.
00:21:52.280 I'm going to call it the China political interference scandal,
00:21:55.120 just like I called the COVID-19 virus the Chinese virus,
00:21:59.020 because it came from there, as Donald Trump said.
00:22:03.140 Anyway, that's all for today.
00:22:04.660 Thanks for joining Ottawa Exposed.
00:22:07.060 I'm David Creighton, senior parliamentary columnist for The Western Standard.
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